#Tom And Jerry
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They are super fun
Agreed to all of you. Tom and Jerry are goated
They’ve remained pretty consistently good
You know its kinda funny. I see everyone else complaining about something about their mains yet here I am with the firm belief that Tom and Jerry got through mostly intact. Heck I would even argue that they could be a good example of what some of the characters in Multiversus should be. A character that you have to learn to get good with but you can have fun with at the same time yet they also aren't insanely broken or overpowered.
Would it be a stretch to say Tom and Jerry are the most balanced character in Multiversus right now or am I pushing it lol?
might be a lil copium in there but hes not bad at all people are dooming lol
Exactly! At least with Tom and Jerry they don't have the same broken moves you can spam over and over and get away with.
They can at least be punished for bad actions
eh its actually pretty hard to punish T&J as long as your not using their normals; even in disadvantage theyre not the worst imo
Yeah ik. I'm just saying compared to characters like banannaguard
I hate that character I swear
dunno if anyone plays other more traditional fighting games but BG is just the super simple guy the pub stomps
hes got kill pressure but hes very telegraphed
like gokublack style
big normals not a much else
Haha! I feel like I finally belong somewhere in the Multiversus community! For once I don't feel like the weird guy in the back with 1,700 Tom and Jerry wins for the heck of it
nah the cat and mouse are goats
He's not bad. He just isn't his former goofy glory
But I am a bit rusty and just need to shake that off
Eh idk I'd say you can still pull of some goofy things with them
You just gotta use them right
Oh of course. But he is no longer the cat and mouse that took evo by storm
i just want down air to be a lil faster on recovery and my life is solid, they even nerf dmg slightly for frame data and id be coomin methinks
Yeah.
He's definitely bottom S tier or top A tier. Like very solid overall, but doesn't have anything busted like a true kill combo at 30 or like IG's inifinite. Which I think is likely going to get patched/removed soon enough, so TnJ would be in a really good spot after that
You know something? Back when the game was in open beta my favorite thing to do with them was use rocket mouse foward then reflect it with Tom's racket to launch it foward faster. I came here during launch to see you couldn't cancel Rocket Mouse anymore and I was upset....that was until I realized you can cancel out of rocket mouse by pressing dodge and the rocket will keep going.
I'd say I've adapted to launch multiversus at least
I'm not even bugged by the speed anymore
as a small aside does anyone notice that actually reflecting projectiles now with racket like almost never works or is it just me lol
I have no problems with it unless I get hit out of it.
hmm must be me lmao
if you're quick enough you can still smash it after the neutral dodge
Ik
Thats what I was saying
New method. Same old me.
Lol
though it doesn't seem as strong as it was before and it's definitely a risk given Jerry's health, I kinda stopped doing that unless it's an emergency situation where I need to get the kill ASAP and it's worth the risk
Yeah it's alot slower I think too then in open beta
I like launching it as a 45 degree angle though, keeps jerry closer, and stops jump ins
I remember the Racket used to send the rocket faster.
yeah pretty sure it's slower too
Now it feels like a split second boost
I didn't test if it does more damage or anything though
if not I probably wouldn't even bother with it
Fun Fact: You can murder Jerry by sending your fishing rod into the blast zone.
It legit kills him unlike beta
that's funny lol
Kinda silly considering he's TIED TO THE FISHING ROD
So how does he die from that
He must have slipped out of it
the blast zone be instadeath, just some guy offscreen with s aniper rifle waiting; poor jerry got blasted
i mean the blast zone kinda look like the kind of thing that would disintegrate you if you touched it lol
blastzone has no chill in this game, as seen in dexter's lab lol
No no no there's a lake at the bottom you see! The fish ate jerry!
He's the bait
everytime i get dexter i introduce my self to the blast zone in the first 5 seconds multiple times and go next
map is dogwater lmao
Which one?
the one with switches lol not the platform one
Tbh I feel like both are bad for Tom and Jerry in some ways since it limits some attacks. Like if you use the dynamite in the 1v1s version there's a chance it will get stuck on the platforms
dexter's lab ugh 1 i think is the autoscroller? that one
The platforms get in the way alot
That one sucks too
townsville and dexters shouldnt be in ranked when it comes out i beg lol
Can some Tom and Jerry tell me if they encountered any glitches specific to Tom and Jerry?
Uhhh hurt toe doesn't have the hammer sometimes
only bug ive had was i got jerry stuck on the basketball nets one time and couldnt grab him
Jerry can die by sending the fishing rod into the blast zone. (Unless that's not a bug)
i have gotten comboed by double bugs safe for 510 insta damage but i dont think that was on T7J
T&J*
Legit can someone tell me how bugs' baseball bat can kill at like 80% while Tom and Jerry's garbage lids can't kill at anything below like 100%
I swear it feels like bugs' baseball bat is broken
there used to be a sweetspot on the lids that felt good did they take it out? ive noticed i never really get theat good hit anymore
Idk
Fun Fact: Tom can use the Nap Time emote without Jerry.
Best thing they ever did lol
lol
It never made since why he couldn't do it without Jerry before.
Now if Jerry is dead you can still yawn on your foes
Does jerry not have a hammer in the hurt toe emote for anyone else?
Your not alone thats a bug
Fun Fact: If rocket mouse hits Tom from behind in any way shape or form Tom gets launched foward
I've even made a little trick if anyone is interested. If you use rocket mouse and angle it foward then you press dodge to cancel it. If you run infront of the rocket on the ground it will launch Tom the second he is infront of it. IT MAKES FOR GREAT MOBILITY IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN TRYING IT
I've killed some people by launching Tom like that too
The best thing I could compare it to is maybe like the Spin Shot Technique with Sonic in Smash.
But that's a stretch
I highly recommend learning this if any of you are Tom and jerry mains. It's very handy
I hope they dont release any skins that change the ringout scream
Bro! Imagine if they added the og Tom and jerry as skins. Like the very first cartoon designs
I mean only tom would change really
You could find some way to change jerry. I doubt modern jerry and classic jerry are 1:1 identical
Depends i mean they have lasted more than 80 years and have had a lot of changes thoughout them
Just wanna reiterate this. I highly recommend learning this if you want a good way of launching Tom across the stage quickly.
To anyone interested
but the design in multiversus is more reminiscent of the late Hanna-Barbera episodes
If a very classic skin was released all that would really change is that tom would look more cat-like
Ik I said this earlier but again for once I feel like I fit in, in this community! I've found fellow Tom and jerry's.
Imagine if he had the old noises he made too as death noises. That would be weird
Like hearing a cat hiss
Mammy Two Shoes ringout
what do you guys think are the best TnJ skins?
Detective
my fav. are sherlock and watson or the pirate one
Baker Street Tom and Jerry and Detectives Tom and Jerry personally. They both are dope
as a sherlock holmes fan i think i would buy the sherlock version
yeah
but i wish they would make it so if you do the emote with the pirate skin that tom would hold a sword instead of a bat
that would be dope
That would be cool.
I think tom should have to be rung out 9 times before the enemy gets the point
It would be very balanced
does Tom have any infinites
no
So I'm still new to this discord server but is this thread basically just anything Tom and Jerry related or like a Tom and Jerry players hub?
A bit of both but mainly the latter
I mean you're already here
Lol alright let me grab my slingshot and fishing rod
What is the best perks for TnJ ?
Flammable
for signature, dynamite OR 5%+ attack/defense. Speed Force or Airwalker for the second one. And probably pugilist for the last one.
yeah 5% perk is what i run
the dynamite not exploding on impact is really nice
plus i can still use dynamite after one use lol
yeah lmao dont really use it to open combos either anymore and you kinda need the damage boost cuz of how hard it is to kill with toms ariels
I'd recommend just play in the lab and make up your own things. Play around with some combos
Unless you want like pro strats ig
Yo chat! What's the fastest way to level up my tom and jerry? I'm still not back at level 15 and it's triggering me.
Does jerry slingshot activate the ignite perk?
Perks I use for Tom and jerry
Dynamite split.
Snowball
Last stand
Pugilist
How do i make jerry fall over
im pretty accustomed to ground but im not sure ik all the air stuff lol
i have alot to learn
What are the best perks for Tom Jerry
What you mean by fall over?
I need clarification
Hmmm well that's beyond my level of techniques. As far as I'm aware jerry can't fall straight down like a projectile. I'll mess about and see if I can find anything.
Might as well learn it for myself anyway
Do you mean by slingshotting him or some other method you've seen?
You might need to ask someone else if you mean Jerry's body itself acting as the hitbox
any T&Js down for some 1v1s?
sure, I'm game
I can do 2 rn, working on something for another game, but I can play
do yall have a TNJ discord
why is it that EVERY other tom and jerry player is the best at the game literally ever but when I play tom and jerry i get DESTROYED by a velma (yes. i think the first ever velma player.)
so is there a TnJ discord?
Hey, so does anyone have any uses for side special besides anti-edge guard & edge guard?
I feel like I haven't nearly as much as I should be using side specials, especially looking at top tier T&J players.
Later today I'm gonna go into training mode and do a bit of research.
Good morning/goodnight fellow Tom&Jerry players!
you can catch people falling above you then combo chain them
or pull a team mate back up in 2s
or kill at like 90
sometimes i play cracked with tnj then i just straight up get my shi kicked in by a jake spammer
why are there like a crazy amount of jakes rn
Best perks for Tom & Jerry?
Did not know it could do that!
I want to quickly look at the damage numbers when I get back home to play the character.
Depends on your playstyle. Though one that I will ALWAYS recommend is thats flammable doc.
My current setup personally is this however this is just my preference.
• Dynamite Split
• That's flammable doc.
• 2 fast 2 block
• Pugilist.
What does it do?
The flammable one
Everytime you hit someone with a projectile and hit them with a melee immediately after they get ignited
Since Tom and jerry are kings in projectiles its basically a no brainer for them
Though you could also switch out 2 fast 2 dodge with airwalker or switch pugilist with static electricity too. Again depends on playstyle
Have you tried putting it in rice
Based?
Answer me on dm pls
anyone know how useful tom getting hit by his own jerry rocket can potentially be?
i just used it for a sweetass kill
he gets a lot of momentum from it and nobody expects it
for anyone who doesnt know tom can get hit by the jerry rocket if he's in front of it and he goes flying
im not sure if its consistent but if it is im pretty sure it could potentially do some crazy work
oh lmfao this person already talked about it
A free TnJ skin will drop in a couple weeks
Its tied to an event, so if you complete it you get the skin
Flammable not work for me for some reason 
its swimwear tnj
toms got the classic red trunks
What I normally to have them constantly have fire damage is to do a combo that starts with aiming Jerry downward and immediate hit them with dair and follow up depending on what they do next
so does that mean you quite literally have to melee immediately after?
This also helps if you have the collateral damage perk since they take more damage for hitting the ground twice
Not really but the window is small (less than 3 seconds if I remember)
thats not that bad
where did you see it
leakers on twitter
do you have a picture of the skin?
tbh it could be helpful just situational bc of toms slow ass speed and horrible jump height
im not sure the rules on showing images of leaks on here you can find it online
So when do you guys think the zoot suit skin is coming to the game?
man if only someone was still here so they could talk about this character
shame they banned them
Serious question: How do I get the shrug emote for tom and jerry
it's the default emote, you just have to do it when you don't have jerry
Tysm!!!
There's about 6 leaked skins
I love Thomas and Jerome
Jerome😍
Lol. Glad to know I'm helping people with my ramblings
Fun Fact: Detectives Tom and Jerry have their hard and mage tag swapped. Don't believe me go look yourself.
Well it helps that you love the character a lot to learn so many tricks
Hehe what can I say? I'm addicted to my cat and mouse
I know little pointless details about them
I've played TnJ since day 1 of open beta and I became so dedicated to them that I got 1500 wins with them alone before open beta ended. And I went out of my way to learn every small detail about them too.
Know what? I'll give another tip to my fellow TnJ players.
If you use rocket mouse in the air it will put jerry and tom and the exact right amount of distance from eachother that you can fully charge Jerry's cork and Tom's racket.
Assuming you don't move tom when your in the air that is
You also have to make sure tom and jerry land on the ground and don't move or else you'll miss the corks
is tnj good?
They require alot of thought but if you can find your groove with them can be very deadly
If you like ranged characters then you'd probably want TnJ
I'd argue they are the current kings of projectiles with the amount of options they have
Did you change your mind?
Best perk set?
Bro, im playing with randoms in 2v2s, and I got put up with a harley against a Lebron & an MtM.
I thought it was gonna be easy. And I won in the end. but DUDE.
I HAVE NEVER WITNESSED SUCH A CLEAN CHARACTER COMBO IN MY LIFE
I WAS SCARED THE ENTIRE MATCH LOL
No tnj is still top tier but not worth learning when gizmo is in the game
No
Gizmo play way differently
Gizmo is better but they aren't similar enough
I think Tom n jerry are way more fun and technical than gizmo
I think they're pretty similar
Tom and Jerry have much more to set up
Gizmo has 1 projectile
And plus Tom and Jerry are still good no need to tell someone it's mot even worth their time cause it's not gizmo
Watch gms void
Back during beta he ended up winning Evo with tnj so I'd say he's pretty good
some new confirmed combos ive found:
Paddle is a strong combo extender if you combo AFTER the third bounce
Side attack (1 mallet hit) > Paddle > down air > Up air (after the third vertical paddle hit, you can jump to continue air moves including cast iron crusher, confirmed)
Side attack (1 mallet hit) >paddle > air up special
Side attack (1 mallet hit) > paddle > Jerry slingshot > tennis ball (for jerry to hit the enemy upon landing > followed by trash can lid
(silly little setup for a top screen ringout)
Paddle > side attack (full mallet combo)
for good confirms
Paddle > down air > up air
Side attack (1 mallet hit) > down attack
Paddle > Jerry Slingshot
dair > Jerry rocket/ normal rocket > trash can lid is also very good
id also say try involving rocket/ jerry rocket into combos
most definitely
another combo worth mentioning is at a 100-high %, after the last hit of the paddle (4th hit uncharged) you can immediately jump and follow it up with trash lids which should kill most non-massive characters
I had a best out of 5 with a superman, and I won 2 as he won 3, but at the same time I'm mad because EVERY SINGLE ROUND I OUTDAMAGED HIM.
I used tracker.gg to find the damage and every round I did more. 99% of superman's moves are kill moves and its stupid.
Isnt superman a tank? Supposed to be able to withstand more damage?
I love sniping people with Jerry
It's so funny
Point blank rocket kick killing is also kinda funny
Yeah, but my problem with the character is that most of his moves can kill by one hit at like 70-90 percent. With some moves killing me at like 65 percent.
Also most of his moves are hard to navigate as they either span a large area, require moves that have disconnect, or have armor.
I get that tanks tank damage, but with that philosophy you can either make the character also do a lot of damage but be slow and easy to maneuver around, or have speed but little damage.
The problem with super man is that he has both and its annoying to play against.
... well at least hes better balanced than WW amiright? *badumting
?
I'm kidding I'm just REALLY REALLY good with them
Like I know so many combos it's kinda nutty I can't really describe the combos I just do
I think they are like my favorite character in the entire game simply because you gotta think about how ur gonna combo some one instead of just button mashing
How to eliminate an opponent with projectile using tom?
if your opponent has projectile you basicvally just keep reflecting it then they wont use it anymore
or just play the exact same way as you would aghainst every other character
Ok. Tysm
Man, I had forgotten how engaging it is to play T&J. I'm hooked. Feels like the sky's the limit with what he can do.
I'm so close to unblocking Tom and Jerry
I need to fix my patience problem
When people just spam their combo opener and do nothing else it drives me crazy and I end up losing out of a lack of patience
So many characters kill at like 70 too it's so annoying
I think a lot of characters need nerfs to kill power cause getting one tapped by an easy to hit move I'd just so unfair
agreed like i will get 0-70 to die
did he get nerfs?
No
bro didnt get anything?
He didnt get touched at all
i had a feeling
games dont really like to change characters that nobody plays
TNJ kinda sit at the king of 2s but really hard
they could of buffed his tin thing
up tilt or whatever its called
Honestly their at a solid place especially with no bugs
ur two b est kill options are fishing hook and jerry rocket (controlled)
we are the lightest chracter in the game im pretty sure
u are using ur brain to make big brain plays
how do yall play tnj 😭
Combos
No it is NOT
What? He is so silly
Nah he is mad diff
Bugs is more of a do DMG REALLY REALLY fast instantly
Tom and Jerry is more of a what combo haven't I discovered yet that will stun lock tf outta them for a a few seconds while more stuff comes off cool down
Also he's very versatile
He is projectile king
But if u play him right he can also be close range king
Trying to learn t&j again is it worth using fly fisher?
No, its his worst perk
Dynamite perk isnt any better, youre better off using 5%
Oof ok thanks
aw, but the dynamite is so fun
It used to be fun, but 3 regular dynamites outclasses 1 split dynamite by a mile rn
I dont understand the nerf
Well, I kinda do. I just dont want to admit it
does this character have any weaknesses????????
i say that a alot but this time i mean it
tom and jerry have everything in their moveset
they have projectiles, they have a reflect, they have good combos, they have powerful areials
Armor
Also, any character that moves fast tbh
Harley is our worst enemy
Literally she is way to fast
Like insanely fast
And maybe like some tanks but he can deal with them if we can get a decent extended combo on em
For me sometimes the recovery
Imnot good keeping track of how many jumps i have left and i dont want to use upspecial to get back to the platform cuz it means losing jerry in most cases
Only use the fish hook if ur REALLY far off stage and Jerry rocket is a good anti edge guard
U can also stall mid air with tennis balls if u got one or two which helps aswell
I dont use the fishing recovery perk though
Is it still usefull for recovery?
OH...
oh...
so what do u recommend
or do i just got be a bugs on trick and go insane
Pfft hahaha no. Bug and TnJ are not the same. One is for setups and such one is for ranged and a unique mind.
Not saying that's a bad thing but I've played TnJ and Bugs enough to say no they are not similar. Tom and Jerry are more built on range while I'd say Bugs is setups or being tricky.
You can play Bugs without a brain while I'd argue Tom and Jerry require more thought to be really good.
But I dunno. I'm the Tom and Jerry guy that got 1,500 wins before open beta ended not the TnJ and Bugs guy.
Just my two sense
It's not. Bugs has the lower skill ceiling between the two. You can play Bugs, not think about your next move and it'll work out. Kinda like his cartoons when he's against Elmer Fudd. Tom and Jerry's the wake up call when you try to play them the same way you play bugs
What he said!
also i find tom way more fun then bugs
Again what he said!
Tom and Jerry has to be one of, if not my favorite fighter in all of fighting history, simply for the visuals alone.
Tom doesn't give one flying crap about the fight going on, all of his moves is him trying to hit Jerry, Jerry dodging, and his smacking someone in the face. It's so unique and I love it
Yeah it’s kind of like reverse Ice Climbers
Buffed
Cause hard match ups got nerfed
But sure ig he didn't technically get anything
He doesn't really need anything though other than maybe a little more kill power
His kill power would be fine if other characters didn't have too much kill power which they do
hmmmm makes sense
ill just stick to bugs and save
Should I become a professor? I just tutored a man Tom and Jerry lol.
Yes 👍 thanks again
you should fr
and tbh i only main bugs cause you can just do dumb shi
and snipe with safe 😭
Oh man! I gotta start making an advertisement lol! Sparks' Tom&Jerry Lessons!
Sniping with a jerrocket that is moving horizontally just a pixel from the floor is so satisfactory
@granite gorge https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2164371843?t=07h50m57s
I was kinda joking earlier but now I'm genuinely considering it lol.
i tihnk im one of the best tom and jerrys NA im ngl
Clip or cap
Calling cap then
🧢
cap
A perk idea i had about the jerrocket:
It would replace the rocket with the champagne bottle of jerry, Tom would hold it while aiming for a moment (the bottle would be jiggling like about to explode) and then jerry gets launched at max rocket speed in the aimed direction (without the slow aceleration), with more damage and more knockback but way less redirection control , it would also shoot the cork of the bottle in the opposite direction (like when tom reflects it, but faster)
As a disadventage, jerry cork ammo would go from 3 to 1 and from 5 to 3
Another thing is that for non controlled rockets it would shoot the bottle straight ahead instead of in an arc, and with a normal cork (non redirected) beign shooted backwards
Sounds a bit strong though, but would impact greatly the playstyle
i just want a perk that makes an impact of jerry
Bruh I'd love to no die on 60 from a regular combo
Depends on opinion m8. If I were to recommend any current for gleamium skin for Tom and jerry it would be Vampire. But that's assuming that Baker Street Tom and Jerry and Detectives Tom and Jerry are still battlepass exclusive. I have both so I wouldn't be able to check
But again that's opinion.
vampire goes hard
Pirates
or Baker street
Both goes hard 🔥
do you guys prefer keyboard or controller?
Controller just feels right to me
Keyboard
Does controller allow for better jerrocket control?
I prefer controller because of the tilt sticks. And I'm used to playing leverless for street fighter
Why do I feel like I can never dodge with Tom and Jerry
are you in burnout?
No, I think it is just a user error because I’m not rlly that good 😂
But sometimes I just feel like I dodge and I get more combo
What’s y’all go to way to deal with tanks like wonder women
Right now I’m thinking of either baker street or vampire
Nah Baker Street
Send jerry to do your dirty work
Does jom and terry have an loop combo or whatever
But that shield bash and shield she gives herself just destroys Jerry if u shot her at him and not hard for her to zone
How does T&J reliably kill?
i mainly use frying pan
And also charged tenis bracket
can you use the tennis racket to hit jerry rocket
Up tilt into up special kills at 120% if you can hit it. Rocket mouse, the frying pan, fishing rod, and up air are probably your best options if they are at a high percent.
You can also do the first hit of foward attack into down tilt quickly for a kill confirm I've heard.
side jab into down attack is nice
what perks should i be running on tom
imo, dynamite DEFINITELY FLAMMABLE. tom and jerry isnt even that good without flammable tbh
i think puglist is good
dash attack beating armour isnt bad
alright thanks
Yeah I do that
It hits most of the time
Especially on big character
Nah the two best ways to kill
Jerry rocket(controlled)
And fishing hook
They are the best ways in my opinion they are definite death everytime
Well most of the time
Oh so what projectile attacks can T&J NOT deflect with the tennis racket
Bugs Safe and Rocket
"heavy projectiles". Not sure if the game still have the same projectile classification as before but usually that would be things like bugs's safe and rocket, gizmos car, Jerry himself
is Gizmo's car even considered a projectile? does it give flame?
Anyhow. Racketing Joker balloon to ride it yourself is the most fun a T&J can have against a Joker. Next to racketing back a Joker's Wild
📝
Must take notes for when I begin my T&J journey
Actually no that one isn't a projectile
a good one is reindog's crystal. You can steal it for yourself
Does it even follow you if the Reindog had that sig equipped?
I think it does, not 100% sure though
it's funny how cooked reindog is against racket. All his best moves don't work against TnJ because of it
I love t&j combos so much
i love their combos
i think they are massively fun
but they literally can't take a hit'
is there a way i can make him better, either supplement his squishiness for damage for make his projectiles do more
Just make him a tiny bit heavier and he's Holden
Golden
He shouldn't die on 60
Or 70
Man I be dying on 40 somtimes I'm ngl I be mad confused
Basically exactly what ur saying
Less squishy
I say heavier because I think of it as the more u get hit the more u height less and less
right but how do
Yeah why is he so light
He isnt fast enough to have to be this squishy. I guess because of projectiles?
well its either weight or kill potential
they are about the same thing
rocket and fishing pole being the 2 kill moves is just as bad
both are extremely easy to not get hit by with the slightest of experience
so while dying at 70 damage is bad, its probably even worse that you kill at the 130 to 170 range
jabs into down attack or racket doesnt combo and can even put you in parry stun
pan into trash can whiffs half the time
and your only reliable combo which is jerry projectile into jerry racket into air racket with tennis ball, while very good, only works when the other guy is low on damage
idk who i should get next or even who i should main, rn I main TnJ and its fun and i win most matches but i personaly more like characters trhat are more melee like batman or superman but both of them get hated pretty much since superman is just no brain punching and batman is batarang and up special/normal
I mean personally for my bruiser I usually use Taz. But that's just me.
Taz is fun to me
I bought him. Taz does seem fun even if he's on the lower end of the tier list
anyone know the best perks for him? new to him.
Yeah
wath perk shoul i use for tom et jerry
The fire one is a must
best perks?
From the unique either the 5% orthe triple dynamite
The first common perk is te fire, a must
You could use static electricity as a third
Idk for second, im using the air platform for it but doesnt seem very usefull, i use it just to jerrocket from away for funsies
i’ll try them
triple dynamite is nice
fishing rod is underused because of its nature of being a bad move but truth is its situational and it can be very strong
5% is wtv i dont think it does much to tnj since they can already nuke your health in a instant
Im starting to consider using the fishing rod perk
Im falling too much
And the dynamite perks limits the range it can go
what does the dynamite actually do?
hurts
you can drop is vertically or smash it with the racket. The perk splits it in 3 and blows up on first ground hit whereas the non-perk one has 3 bounces and you get more ammo
On T&J I think the 5% perk is the best, in my opinion at least
me personally i think its useless
since flammable doc is well you need that on TNJ and he just does so much damage
5% makes no difference to me
if fishing rod had a faster start up it could be a top tier move
why am i running into so many tnjs
Cuz he’s free rn
just fast fall as you pull it out and it changes how far it goes, it tricks so many people if you condition them to think its going to go far, just for the lure to land right in front of you and get a KO
I’m trying to master aiming it bc of how good of a kill move it is
yeah the single dynamite slept on heavy the range is insane
Please for the love of god give these guys better kill options
How many wins do I need for a 4 star T&J badge
1000 maybe
Nah that's way too much plus I've seen less than that on 4 star
500
Womp womp
Literally, single dynamite is a great KO move for 2s
or just edge gaurding
Lets go theres gonna be a new T&J skin with the Rise of Jason event
Yoo
would you guys say black adam is skill?
no and i use him
every tom i go against always shoots all 3 tennis balls immediately
is this the best play or should they be saved
as in all 3 right after shooting jerry
The best skin for tom and jerry?
detective or pirate imo
No
Imma tell you why
The balls require a hit on them
9/10 times you are gonna get pushed back instantly
Can anybody jump cancel paddle, I can't for some reason
nah, it doesn't let u cancel it
u gotta do it all the way through, or just 4 times ig
i wish they had more characters interacting with them
pls fix tom's melee hitboxes so many times i was standing in the right position for the hit to land but instead it would just go through the opponent
if the camera was more zoomed out. Their kit might actually work a lot more
I don't like that any projectile from tom activates the rat trap
What is your guy’s recommended perks for both 1v1 and 2v2s
I usually always use the "That's fire doc" cause Tom and Jerry use a lot of projectiles together that ignite opponents, even the tennis balls passing towards opponents can start it
Either the dash armor break if your opponent has armor or the speed one
And then the melee one because that's the main good one
I miss the old perk system
it was less restrictive and had more options + combinations
T&J mains crying for joy seeing old camera coming back
I might even have to start playing him again
i never had an issue between old and new camera
It's annoying if you shoot jerry off camera but not a deal breaker
2s kinda covered the majority of the map most of the time so it’s not that bad, 1s is a bit annoying with the camera cause you sometimes can’t see Jerry. It’s fine otherwise imo
are you kidding me
they've nerfed him
again
;-; so now
neutered up air, neutered down air
ADD neutered jab to the equation
now people can fall out of it easily
Lmfao
Another update, another T&J nerf.
Goddammit bros. Aight, won't touch this game in a while.
real
What did they do to his upair and downair
they found out about the jerry loops
Nothing in this patch, rather from beta to launch
dair has a smaller hitbox that is active for less time
and up air I think just has less kill power
regardless, this one removes the jab jab jab jerry loops
Honestly I’m not mad about the change as long as they don’t touch jab1. I love doing uptilt into jab1 into downtilt or uptilt into jab1 into down Jerry slingshot when they are near the stage
I wonder why the don’t have a little indicator showing where Jerry would go as you aim
At least now that I think about it
Tbh nerf wouldn't cause too much of a difference
Probably since it’s just mallet 2 and 3
Or is it assuming that you end the side attack with mallet 2 or 3?
The jab nerf not that bad I think they just want to reduce conversions into other moves off of jab 2 and 3 into things like dair
Overall not that bad
agreed
Any tips
dair is not good at all bruh arf
Wtf
That thing always whiffs
Make side special better 🗣️
His dair is good idk what you mean.
Did the patch kill jab 1-3 into uptilt?
Dair is like one of his best moves
Honestly I'd give it 3rd best move behind paddle and jerry
i disagree, dair has one of the worst wifs in the game
I think you can only do jab 1 to paddle now
2 and 3's been slowed
so
does mouse trap just not work on iron giant
???
the only time ive been able to hit mousetrap on him is using paddle and his weird hurtbox shift
T+J > everything else
alright so i've been playing t&j for the first time since the patch and i can't tell what perks i like on him in duos. Im running 5%, flammable, speed and pugilist
bro why am i only running into jokers
last 7 matches only joker
fdirst match where joker is not my enemy i meet banana guard
yeah that's pretty much it. Get the dynamite if you want damage over utility (it gives less ammo but the triple dynamite can do 30 damage, while the non perk one bounces more on the ground). The fishing rod one sucks, and airwalker can be good instead of speed.
Why does up smash just no work anymore
gotta give them this, trash can had a dumb hitbox in the beta
so Im all for those nerfs
but now jab4 missing on everyone constantly if you started the combo on someone airborne is just as bad
more so considering its his only option
nothing connects after jab3
only jerry but only at point blank
what worries me is that hes probably still up for small nerfs, and that will make him even worse in 1v1
the hitbox was dumb on trash can, but the kill power wasn't
but they got rid of that kill power, yet bugs bunny's ass gets to keep his ridiculous up air
yeah it should only be tennis ball after hit and dynamite fr
T&J are hella fun
Yo did they nerf T&Js mallet neutral
Also any tips for bananas I usually win but that charge is stupid somtimes
yeah
jab jab dtilt and jab jab jab dtilt isnt true anymore
jab dtilt is true though
Oh this isn’t horrible
Good info
Our main kill options now are jab dtilt, paddle air rocket, and dair uair
I usually start the match with down pan jab jab paddle scratch rocket kick thoughts on the combo?
Jab jab paddle is not true
I don't think any of our jabs connect into paddle tbh
But I know for a fact jab 2 and 3 dont
If it works your opponent went to grab a snack and walked away
I've never tried sair into rocket though so I'll have to check that later
should i get reindog or marvin?
Banana is hard because he kills so early
what i was told to do is just camp
Yeah and we are super duper light
One of the lighter characters in the roster
He cant do much about the projectiles and even if he's smart he has to resepct tennis balls
So we explode at 70
Alr also another question
I wanna end this controversy
Collateral damage or speed force assist on Tom and Jerry
I personally use collateral a lot more than speed force assist
But I want yalls opinion
I don't use either but tbh I should do collateral
I do a lot of paddle jerry shot so that extra dmg would help
I think speed force assist is fun to use sometimes
I'm sad my people. I'm going on vacation tomorrow and will probably miss the Tom and jerry skins for Jason's event unless I can somehow complete the event in 3-2 days.
I wish the best of luck to my fellow Tom and jerry mains though even if I miss the skin personally
I personally use the dash attack one where it breaks shield
I use that when I go against wonder woman’s
That's fair
I use 3 sets
One with collateral
For my main set
Speed force when I go against bugs and taz
And break armor for WW
My current setup is Well Rounded, That's Flammable Doc, 2 fast 2 block, and pugilist.
Could probably switch 2 fast 2 block for speed force though
I use dynamite split that’s flammable doc and pugilist
I like to have a custom setup for each signature perk tbh
I feel like triple dynamite is better when you trying to recover since it covers more area
And triple dynamite has a better chance of hitting since it’s 3 sticks in a single tennis smack
I used to use dynamite split as my main one but I tried out well Rounded a couple days back and I actually like being able to bounce the stick around the stage and give me more stage control
Yeah I get the stick bounces but I feel like the single dynamite isn’t as good at recovery than triple dynamite I get that you have more ammo so you can float longer but I feel like it’s a bonus that triple dynamite blows up in the air making it a safer recovery tool
You'd be surprised actually.
If you angle it right you can actually use it quite well to get back on stage
This is so sad
Yeah I know I know 😔
Scuba Tom and diver Jerry is peak
U have to be precise tho, which can be hard while trying to get back on stage, especially because TnJ don't have the best recovery, do I prefer Dynamite Split, that's my opinion tho
Yeah I'm not trashing dynamite split bc I still use it alot too. I just use well rounded when I want stage control is all
Also collateral damage helps with toms mid stocking potential
Also just a raw 5% more damage is just baller
Dynamite split doesn't go as far but has spread damage.
Well Rounded goes farther but doesn't have much spread damage.
That's how I'd compare them
Yeah stacked with Pugilist it's insane
It also helps with wonder woman’s armor if you hit her with 2 of the 3 sticks
Dynamite split helps you break armor a lot easier since Tom dosent have that or do it very well
Yeah I'd agree
Though can we all agree that Tom and jerry have possibly the best emotes in this game?
We have the one where Jerry smacks his big toe
One where they sleep
And that’s all the emotes I have
Yeah but you can also use them together which I think adds character. For example you could shake Jerry's hand then have him whack Tom's foot
Also is it just me or when I first start the game I jump in the air and get a free down pan into a jab jab paddle
Also you know your a bad Wonder Woman when you get 3 stocked by a Tom and Jerry
You have so many answers to Tom and Jerry it’s not even funny
And even worse when they do it without Jerry
Your shield dash completely kills Jerry
You have like 3 different armor moves
And your a bruiser disguised as a tank
You have bruiser combos but tank knockback resistance
Kinda wish Fly Fisher got more love
I mean it’s good at what it does
It feels like the odd one out of signature perks
Exactly but all I ever hear is dynamite
Then it would make fly fisher a better recovery tool
Since you can still use fishing rod effectively
Fly Fisher is honestly fun if used right
Which is hard to do
Since once you use it your stuck in a really long punishing move
Petition to make more of the cast interact with Tom and Jerry more
Since they don’t talk
We had to main the ONE silent character
Y'know I was actually thinking about getting the tooniverse skins to ease my pain. Thoughts?
YESSS
That is like my biggest complaint with Tom and jerry
Only characters like LeBron and Jake even mention them by name
How hard is it to make bugs interact off a cat chasing a mouse?
Someone ought to make an edit of that on youtube
Get my MAIN MAN A JERSEY
It would be funny if Rick broke the fourth wall talking to Tom and Jerry like he does with banana guard
Y'know I got every Tom and jerry skin except tooniverse. Maybe if I get tooniverse I can act like i have every tom and jerry skin after I miss the diving skins
I'm not coping. Not at all
I made a "concept" for the variant
There’s no copium left
Oh really?
Where’s the cowboy reskin
Why did they scrap it
Yep, check ur DMs
ILL GIVE YOU MONEY PFG IF YOU MAKE THE COWBOY SKIN
Cuz they're mid
Kitmo is proposing a buff Jerry and mini Tom variant in your wondering what me and him/her are talking about.
Remember buff Jerry
Make that a skin
Like in that one episode yeah
Where Tom is scared of buff Jerry
That's what @devout finch is trying to do. Basically switch Tom and Jerry's roles in Multiversus.
That would be scuffed
They would need whole new animations if they want to make that work
Unless Tom still flings Jerry
Which wouldn’t make sense if he was scared
Well I dunno. In the episode tom was able to shrink by the end of it
Smaller than Jerry even
You could make it work
Look at ur DMs, I sent u the idea
I saw
I combined buff Jerry, and the small version of Tom, if they add it, I'm buying every TnJ variant
You telling me you wouldn't be scared at the sight of buff Jerry?
I didn’t say that
Wait
People play Jason?
Yes
Yes.
Funfact Jason is probably my favorite tank
He gets juggled so hard
...
I'll go cry in a corner now
He has so many gaps between his moves and he has nothing to stop him from getting juggled
At least iron giant can zap people from juggling him
While true I'd also say when Jason is the one juggling he's a lot of fun
And his stocks last a lot longer
If he's not being juggled he's fun to me
Jason is heavier than Iron Giant, only thing going for them imo
Both are bad T&J matchups so
Well no duh. I wreck a Jason easily
Yeah
And giant can’t do nothing since he hates people who play far
Like Marvin and T&J
If I "Mr. 1800 Tom and Jerry Wins" can't beat a Jason then I might as well go main Marvin the Martian
At least then I can blame the character-
The only thing Tom and Jerry has a problem with is his weight
He has NO knock back resistance
Which is fine since he’s a mage
Ehhhhh I'd actually argue Tom and jerry being lightweight is fair
He’s not supposed to take a beating
Sure he’s not gizmo level light but he’s no super man
With how much crap Tom and jerry can throw and how much they can easily get up close in a fight I'd say their weight balances them out
Exactly
Hence I said why he’s a mage for a reason
Free T&J skin baby lets gooooo
Is it daily missions or can you grind it all in a day
If it’s daily missions imma be pressed
Broo don't do that to me!
Its a thing where its like the rise of the joker or something like that
you get the swim wear T&J skin tho
So daily missions?
but it is daily sadly :C
That’s why I’m asking😭
Temp knows my situation!
NOOOO
He can’t get scuba Tom and diver Jerry sadly
At least you all will have a chance to get the skin. I won't
That’s a rip
Istg if you have to do every single daily mission everyday imma be pressed
I hope they give it leeway and you can miss a day
That's the thing! I'm gonna be gone until Saturday or Sunday and the event ends on Tuesday
I'm gonna miss it either way
This is so sad
Well the Joker one & The Batman VS Joker one rn has a ton of lee way so i think theres a lot of time
Let’s hope you can buy it afterwards
I won't have access to multiversus in that time
But the Jason thing is only 4 days
Yeah I hope they put event skins in the store in the future
At least then I could just grind gleamium for it
Istg if they make this outfit a legendary outfit imma explode
It’s blue or purple at best
If anything were to be legendary worthy for t&j I'd say something like Puss gets the boot
damn 😔
Who would Jerry be
OH
I read puss in boots
Duhhh
That would go hard tho
Jus sayin
No puss gets the boot as in the first Tom and jerry cartoon
Like realistic Tom and jerry
Those skins would be legendary worthy in my opinion
Yeeee
I could even see them giving Tom his older yell to where it's just a cat hissing.
Anyways when I get home imma do the math
And see how much leeway we have if we have any at all
Good luck getting the skin I can't get yet.
Literally it could have been ANYONE ELSE!
We shall see
Anyone else and I would have been fine
But NOOO the one character who has NO outfits
The one character nobody uses
And if they do they SUCK
Because of his high skill ceiling
I think I'm just gonna get the tooniverse skin to cope. At least then it will look like I have every Tom and jerry skin in my locker.
Plus it's easier to grind for
Yeah
Which one?
YO
THERES A BUG
WHERE SOME PLAYERS ARENT GETTING THE DAILY MISSION XP
ISTG IF I CANT GET IT BECAUSE OF A BUG IM GONNA CRASH OUT
Either way ding dong your opinion is wrong.
All of them are drip.
We don’t talk about the green detective skin
Outclassed by the blue one entirely
Sherlock homes one
That was my first Tom and jerry skin thank you. And no leave them alone their fedoras are fire
But the top hat
If you truly want me to tell which one is the worst then I'd say none of them
All of Tom and Jerry's skins are fire in their own right
Infact the "worst" one ironically enough is the default outfit
Can you stop making me more depressed? Thank you.
Bro tell me why I fought a Wonder Woman and she kneed my skull and said “KNEE OF JUSTICE”
Wonder Woman I took a penny from the sidewalk
I need to to feed my family
If I got my detectives outfits from the battle pass in open beta are they still considered rare or og? 🤔
No idea
Do they sell the BP skins for gleamium now? I wouldn't know
But currently my Tom and Jerry has severe brain damage due to him taking a knee to the skull when Wonder Woman has super human strength and armored legs
Uhh I think they sell detectives tom and jerry
Bakers street T&J
Vampires Tom and Jerry
Alright interesting.
And the other green one I can’t think of
Pirates
Not toonverse
Tooniverse
Pirates
Yeah and pirates
It’s a cool skin
Not that they are bad but idk they just don't grab me like the others I have
All of them have there own pizzazz
Baker’s street Tom and Jerry is peak
Agreed.
Dressed like extinguished gentleman
What if they added Godzilla in the game
Would be possibly heavier than iron giant?
And will our paddle move juggle them?!?
We should lwk duo up into some 2v2s we would go crazy
We NEED godzilla in the game right NOW
Hmmmm I might be up for that. I need to get my Tom and jerry to mastery 15 anyway and I'm tired of getting afk partners. But only if you promise not to clown on me if we lose a match that's beyond my control.
Uh I don’t clown on anyone
And again I won't be available much this week so you'd probably have to wait until like next week to properly duo up with me
I clown on myself most of the time for not playing well enough
Oh same
Then you should be fine
I couldn't do that to my favorite lizard
It would be funny tho
Thousands of years of constant evolution to get juggled by a cat and mouse with differences
So we doing this next week or...?
Alright fair enough. Just please don't be one of those people who spams my dms when I'm not playing lol
anyways is this hot fix gonna fix the invisible mallet
I won’t trust
Wdym!? What's wrong with Tom clobbering someone with his fist!?
It’s a little unfair when you get smacked by thin air because you can’t see his mallet
And you start a combo with it
Nah Tom is probably only using 1% of his power
Bro they ain’t even tryna hurt anyone everyone is collateral damage from there own fights😭😭
Exactly! He's holding back on Jerry!
Don't you know how many cartoons have Tom not have the guts to actually kill Jerry
I bet deep down even he can bring himself to do it after this long
Yall think T&J counters shaggy?
yeah
when shaggy goes for his infamous kick
it’s easy for him to run into cheese trap or get caught by dair
Yes but if it's a spamming Shaggy it gets annoying fast
Honestly idk why but I sometimes struggle against shaggy
All his moved just hit so freakishly hard
And we’re so light
Sooo
And if they spam it gets super annoying
Have a free 10% with little to no punishment window!
If it's a Shaggy spamming side special and everything is on cooldown you better pray you can dodge it.
And shooting Jerry won't help since he just dies
Because it takes priority
Exactly.
So fun
I swear if there is one thing this game needs to improve its hit priority
It's ridiculous how I can use foward air first but if they use theirs second it somehow hits me!?
What if Tom and Jerry wasn't the most annoying character to play against?
Like you guys know you can walk towards your opponent, right?
Why are you crying
Tom and Jerry is light
Why would we let you
Plus even though our boxing tools aren't that good
If we hit you with paddle you're taking 70%
And we CAN walk you down with jab paddle combos
Where mages for a reason
We ain’t bruisers
Yep
Zoners were part of the betas meta for a reason
Honestly if you can’t deal with an experienced Tom and jerry and your playing Batman that’s a genuine skill issue
We don’t just sit in the back of the map
Batmans best neutral tool (batarang) is useless against zoners
Because any projectile in the game breaks it
You are a BRUISER
Your not a mage
That doesn't matter
Batarang isn’t supposed to be op
If it had priority over projectiles it would be broken
Batman's pretty ass without it
You have grapple one of the better moves to engage with
Batarang is just there to stop combos
And be annoying
I love getting whiff punished any time I use grapple because it's literally the most predictable attack in the game
It's so slow
Then play a different character
^ no point if you're not having fun
Show me one other character with the kind of drip Samurai Batman has
🤔
Huh
Point
Joker (Batman Who Laughs)?
That's my current most played character but it gets boring power tripping with the best jab in the game, no whiff, multiple 0tds, a slightly worse Bugs uair, insane kill potential, etc.
absolute horseshit lol
damn thing dies in 3 interactions, needs to win like 10 to kill
thats why toms run
Coward character played by cowards
I'll be SO glad when the game's popularity dies down a bit so the trolls leave
hes pretty bad in 1v1
The games popularity already died down a lot lol
its normal
Not enough to drag you away sadly 😔
