Taz

[eternal forum]

can u not drop the link in here

[twin prairie]

what perks should i use for taz in 1v1s?

[lyric urchin]

5% signature, snowball, speed force assist, pugilist

You may want to swap some out based on matchup

[twin prairie]

thanks, i assumed that i should use those, i just wanted to make sure

[pearl garnet]

last stand?!?

last stand is incredibly broken

weakened is insane

its just extra damage

I couldnt imagine Taz not using it

unless it was for like air walker if he has any weird set ups

[lyric urchin]

Last stand is also good

But depends on the matchup. If you’re playing against someone who regularly kills at under 100, don’t bother

[glad hull]

https://fxtwitter.com/Rawrsupial/status/1799578299208790466

taz has a 0 to death yall

[atomic snow]

do you still need a link brother

[boreal storm]

sure do. appreciate it

[atomic snow]

If anyone else wants one @ me

[cunning eagle]

taz is my goat

[wise wind]

That’s crazy, does it work if they try to dodge?

[honest maple]

one thing i continously heard is that taz sucks

ive just had a session against a taz main and i dont get it lmfao

i get looped to like 50 even if i di up and away

[glad hull]

I had the bot set to dodge neutral and it didn't do so once so yeab

[honest maple]

his hitboxes are ridiculous

he tuns me iunto a chicken while looping me

i mean how is this char not really strong

i dont get the mu

[glad hull]

He's top 5

But only because of loops

Without loops he'd be top 10

[honest maple]

loops are such an unfun mehcanic

[glad hull]

Yeah don't get mad at him for it. Just about half the cast still has them

[honest maple]

yea thats not a taz issue

i mean every character with that

tbh im just butthurt cuz my character doesnt have one and therefore sucks from the get go

and gets hit by all of them until narnia

but still

[glad hull]

Who you play?

[honest maple]

even if my char did have one, its not fun

jason

[glad hull]

Oh yeah that character sucks LOL

[honest maple]

exactly

i didnt like infinites in brawl and melee so i quit

why does every platform fighter need to have infinites or loops

not like they can do too much about it

i guess

[honest maple]

im kind of starting to feel that aswell

but why do i never hear anybody say that

hes usually on the lower side of way too early tier lists

[glad hull]

Because Gizmo, Harley, WW, Bugs, and Steven are better

[honest maple]

eh fair enough

[glad hull]

But unironically Taz is still good.

[true hound]

on that subject I've seen tazs pull some crazy stuff

but still taz is kinda weak

[honest maple]

how

[sinful patio]

Taz is good if you know how to play him

you cannot just pick him up abd succeed like WW Gizmo Bugs Harley And Steven

[dire bane]

higher skill floor, but that skill ceiling doesn't lie

[lyric urchin]

So are T&J, Banana Guard, Joker, and probably Black Adam and Batman too

[true hound]

yeah ive fased taz with harley like 6 times taz won none

[lyric urchin]

Taz like has a good combo game and that’s his only redeeming quality besides eating projectiles

He’s just so stubby that anyone with range can just hit him free

And nado and dogpile don’t really kill until like 120%

Unless you’re edgeguarding

[true hound]

does marvin counter taz?

[lyric urchin]

Probably

Like Taz can eat one of his projectiles, but Marvin can have like 3 on screen at all times

Makes him a lot harder to approach

Taz also loses to basically all of the top tiers

[sinful patio]

Taz can eat Bugs safe if it is about to break

This goes for any other projectile with health

Including Gizmo car

It gives anvil

[lyric urchin]

Oh can he? I thought he couldn’t eat the large projectiles, but I think I only tried while they were at full health

That’s good to know

[sinful patio]

Yea I was playing a bugs and I ate his safe multiple times, u just have to be able to break it with Bite

[whole copper]

taz is so fun to play dawg

kinda spammy playstyle but eh

At least it's not finn

[eternal forum]

so true

[indigo ibex]

TAZ TAZ TAZ

[sinful patio]

Taz may be top tier

[balmy rock]

Finn used to be my main but he just feels so dumb now without his gem and I'm boycotting him. Taz is a bunch of fun now though I'm loving him.

Really fun to juggle people around in the air with his up air for 8 hits😂

[honest quarry]

yeah people dont know what to do vs sandwich

i think dodge to one side and air attack the other side you just dodged from beats it every time

[sinful patio]

Taz Gang Rise

[clear geyser]

Taz gang awaken from the dead

[frozen wave]

@glad hull how do you chomp down with taz when you eat someone

[glad hull]

Chomp down?

OU

You just press the same button you used to bite

[frozen wave]

i’m trying in training i’m just just finding out now that i can’t chomp down with up special 💀

i always use chomp in air so i can move around while getting the bite

on ground he just stand still

[glad hull]

Oh yeah you can't eat while in midair

You have to combo side tilt into bite THEN you can eat and chomp

[frozen wave]

i’m gonna try to learn that twitter vid you sent

i always play taz but i never really played good with him

i just do dumb stuff with him

[frozen wave]

someone give me some combos with taz

[zinc musk]

I think the most important thing to learn is how to nair into jab bite / or sair

Both for 1's and 2's it's your best whiff punish by far and learning to do that is super important

And if you do a tap nair in the air and get both hits it combos into sair a ton.

I get most of my damage off stray 2 pieces I would say and charged nair does dumby damage

[true hound]

whats nair?

[rugged jetty]

Neutral air

[sinful patio]

U should try and get Nair into dair into dair down. That is his best combo starter, from there u just gotta learn what to follow up with based on what the opponent does

[hearty lichen]

jab netural and rinse and repeat

[frozen wave]

after i hit that combo once the person gets too far from me

so i can’t do it again

[lyric urchin]

Wait Taz can extend his dash attack?

[eternal cedar]

Any tru taz combos?

[sinful patio]

@eternal cedar check dm

[radiant geode]

Got first in my pod of 50 for TopDog using Taz. My win rate was pretty good overall so far. Nado dmge buff is great, Dogpile still needs buff. 👺

[sinful patio]

wanna play

i never get to play against taz players

[radiant geode]

At work all night rn lol srry

[dry vessel]

Why does the dash attack of taz is going through all the field ? 💀

[next elm]

Combo suggestions

[novel torrent]

what do u do against stripe

I tried fighting wtripe

and all.he did was cancel.ky tornado and up b

when. I tried to do.kill confirms or edge guards

with gun or chainsaw

cuz it straight up.bests both

ao I couldn't kill.him

[frozen wave]

up special

not up b

say it CORRECTLY

[novel torrent]

u realize up b is up.apecial

????

1 iq

imbecile stop trying to.bait

[frozen wave]

NO ITS UP SPECIAL

NOT UP B

👿

[novel torrent]

it's not

[novel monolith]

is he good?

anyone know taz?

im playing bugs, gizmo and joker

[rugged jetty]

Is taz good? Yes. Is he in good compared to the top tiers you listed? No, not really lol

[atomic snow]

he can hold the input to keep going

you can hold it long enough to go practically the entire distance of any stage

[lyric urchin]

It also has a lot of priority from what I’ve seen it used at ledge

[silver otter]

https://streamable.com/84dwtb

this a fun thing

[novel torrent]

charecters satisfying

landing a 0 to death

by just combing to top of the blast zone and using up b

[novel torrent]

ia that true?

cuz people were.saying down attack foward attack was truen

but it isnt

[river galleon]

ayo

massive W

[eternal cedar]

[sinful patio]

Guys

Is anyone able to play with Taz yet

Did they remove double dair ????

[silver otter]

Well patch says you cant

[sinful patio]

Im ngl, it hurts. That was my bnb combo starter

I have to find new combos with Taz now. Im not angry, it had to happen in order for loops to be removed

[river galleon]

Just beat a Harley with the top 5 badge from the top dog event

they didn't waste a single second before denying the rematch

[novel torrent]

it wasn't hard to get top 5 in top dog

same with getting rank 1

[river galleon]

Just fought another with rank 1

and 3-1'd her

😭

[novel torrent]

yeah a ton of people got rank 1 for top dog

who were bad

[rocky pollen]

TAZS DAIR IS BIGGER NOW

OMG

[cyan wren]

Is he hood now?

good

[sinful patio]

hes better

dair was so weak before

[novel torrent]

what was his loop

I though the loops was f tilt neutral attsck

[honest quarry]

it was

and is

[radiant geode]

Taz feels Crazy good rn since changes, not sure why

Been 3 stocking in 1v1

[silver otter]

https://streamable.com/aselte

crazy taz combo, anyone could tell me if this is true?

[sinful patio]

not true

can be DI out of

[solar lava]

Jazz up the taz

[pulsar jungle]

Is taz good? I just bought him

[whole copper]

Definitely better than Lebron and Jason in their current state

[frozen wave]

dair, jump, dair, jump

until the knockback pushes them away or they di out on the third one

[lyric urchin]

That was removed

There’s a penalty on repeated dair

[frozen wave]

yea i know

he was asking about the loop that got nerfed

[lyric urchin]

Oh, yeah that one got nerfed. He still has jab neutral attack loops tho

[frozen wave]

do you have any chicken combos?

idk why the salt meter goes down so fast after your opponent gets a single hit on you

if i’m fighting someone good i can get them to 14/18 but i sell before they become chicken

[lyric urchin]

I’m pretty sure you can loop jab neutral attack like 3 times into jab dtilt utilt sair, but that’s only 16/18

[frozen wave]

i could probably do a tornado or something after that to turn them chicken for that last bit

thanks 👍

[lyric urchin]

I will say I haven’t tested that combo

I’ve seen jab neutral attack loop several times

And I know that the last part is a combo I’ve used

If there’s some way to incorporate dair into the combo, then it should be a lot easier because you could always end with dair nair sair

[sinful patio]

I do jab spit x2 into iad sair into nair or dair

[frozen wave]

which attack is spit?

the shoe?

or neutral tilt

[frozen wave]

also do you fast fall down on your sair? i can never hit the combo even when i try to do that

[sinful patio]

neutral attack

[sinful patio]

you just iad

so u dont have to jump at all

dodge up and forward

[final jetty]

Ngl this character feels weird after the beta. Like his attacks feel as though they have no kb so you can just spam attacks right next to them for insane dmg.

It also makes it fun to convert combos into neutral special eat and toss them else where

[frozen wave]

what is iad….

i don’t really play fighting games, i’m still learning some terms

[boreal storm]

instant air dash. you do this by dodging up and forward

[frozen wave]

i just seen a video on it, holy i gotta start doing this

i’ve been wondering why some combos that i’ve been hearing weren’t chaining together

[boreal storm]

yes but as far as i know it does cost extra meter to do so, correct me if im wrong

[final jetty]

Yeah it costs as much as a dodge jump

[icy cairn]

just grinded for a while to finally get 3k fighter currency to buy taz. hes so fun even though im terrible with him

[pulsar jungle]

Same

[sinful patio]

Finally understanding Taz is a beautiful journey

[pulsar jungle]

Playing Taz is beautiful

Sad nobody plays him

[zenith trout]

any recommendations for perks for taz nowadays? I used to play him back in beta a lot, but anvil seems slow now?

[pulsar jungle]

Snowball... And the "lemme in!" Perk if ur running 2s

Just leave everything else blank

[zenith trout]

I'm mostly doing 1v1s at the moment!

[pulsar jungle]

So just snowballing, and no other changes

[sinful patio]

Flammable, Collateral Damage, and Armor crush

Taz neutral attack is a projectile, so every time you combo with it u set off the flammable perk

[pulsar jungle]

Shoe and soup is very rarely useful from my experience besides TRYING to stall for fight cloud

[sinful patio]

U just dont use them correctly

I use soup all the time, its a great move and gives armor with full charge

boot isnt as good but it can help to stop edgeguarding

[pulsar jungle]

In my defense I only got like 30 mins on taz

I'm not that good at anyone

I'm average in just about everyone I play in this game 🤷‍♂️

[sinful patio]

I understand bro

[final jetty]

Bro I swear I shouldn’t be rewarded this much for spamming fast fall tornado. Like it’s so active that I can practically chase down people sometimes.

also eating people funny hahahahah

[pulsar jungle]

It's so funny that the charged tornado can stomp someone

It should have a spike hitbox at the tip

[final jetty]

It also shocks me that the on cooldown variation is also really good. Not as active but can kill about the same

[pulsar jungle]

No mobility but good

[final jetty]

Dog pile is also a move that shouldn’t work. But people fall into it because they think they can beat it

[pulsar jungle]

...the fight cloud?

[final jetty]

Big cloud hitbox

[sinful patio]

Taz combos are seriously crazy lol

[pulsar jungle]

If you are good at the game 😭

[sinful patio]

They aren’t hard just take some practice

[pulsar jungle]

I don't need allat (I am entirely average at this game and probably alr peaked)

[final jetty]

They feel like I’m mashing my controller lmao

[solar lava]

Jazz up the taz

[pulsar jungle]

Wdym

[solar lava]

Fake taz player 😔

[pulsar jungle]

I haven't even had him for 24 hours. Also calling somebody a fake _ is usually rude, because i just saw your message and was asking for clarification because I hadn't played during the beta, which presumably what your talking about

Remember folks, asking for clarification is never mean

[solar lava]

I was just makin a joke my bad, just lock in taz then when you go start up the game he says that

[pulsar jungle]

Oh. I don't have in game audio on when I play

[sick scarab]

Is there a way to escape Taz's jab > eat > jab > eat > jab > eat combo or is that an infinite of his?

[pulsar jungle]

Idk

[pulsar jungle]

WHICH jab? Side tilt? Or soup

[sick scarab]

I think it's side jab > neutral jab > repeat

[frozen wave]

nope

i haven’t fought another taz but i think you might be able to di upwards and dodge upwards

that’s probably your best bet

going towards taz or away from him won’t get you out

[timid coral]

How df does Taz's spin just suck me in when i am nowhere near him? also if you main Taz and just spam spin i hope it gets nerfed

[frozen wave]

his spin has a cooldown that makes it do less damage and knockback

the cooldown is probably 20 seconds long

[frozen wave]

also, it’s a tornado obviously you’ll get sucked in if your anywhere close

[boreal storm]

if you throw an attack out you will extend your hurtbox to the tornado and get hit. if you dont have a projectile or armor its best to stay in the air to avoid it

[stray yoke]

is anyone a good taz main i can practice (/1v1) with

[pulsar jungle]

Good by your standards? Bc I'm pretty much average, Ik my mistakes

[stray yoke]

not by my standards just a taz main that knows what they doinbc idk how to play against him

[pulsar jungle]

I can try to help you out

I know what I'm doing somewhat

[stray yoke]

:D

good enough

you on rn?

[pulsar jungle]

Just hopped on

VC @stray yoke ?

[stray yoke]

ill call in dms

[unreal token]

Can anyone link a good example of high level Taz play? He was my main in beta, but I don't understand how he's good at all right now, he feels strange to me.

[dull kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/@barrix7931/videos this guy has pretty good vids of taz play

[pulsar jungle]

He's like high B low A. He's solid but he's basic

[signal violet]

they should make the salt shaker stacks stay longer on the enemy i have never seen them be usefull

[novel torrent]

man why does banana hitbox straight up beat out all our hitboxs

cant even ducking get close to him when intey to hit him his moves juat beat priority

it's so stupid

[frozen wave]

who should i use against banana

bugs, taz, or BA

[unreal token]

Taz is short range and Banana is a swordie.

@frozen wave I say Bugs because he's easy.

[signal violet]

pick bugs and press the neutral attack aerial button prety hard character

[frozen wave]

i’d say i’m pretty good with taz and above average with bugs

i was asking cuz i was about to fight my friend

i beat him 5-1 with taz

[novel torrent]

ywah also his hitboxs last too long

[unreal token]

I successfully predicted a banana side special, walked away, and then walked into it because it still had a hitbox when he stopped moving.

[radiant geode]

Im starting to Think Taz is great for 2v2 even better than 1v1. Not saying he’s bad for 1v1, but his ability to cause panic and throw enemy team’s gameplans off is where he really shines. He also is great at saving allies from getting jumped.

[true hound]

what is the best custom tax build

[radiant geode]

I use all damage boosting perks paired with movement speed up perk. I need to hit hard and fast with Taz

[eternal cedar]

Reall

[stray yoke]

should i get taz or marvin next?

[pulsar jungle]

I'd say Taz but Marvin is rlly good also

[stray yoke]

alright ty

[frozen wave]

i don’t play 2’s a lot but was expecting taz to be trash in 2v2

is he actually good?

[pulsar jungle]

Solid

[pulsar jungle]

Me and another dude did 2v2 and I played tank while he racked up damage for most matches ( I was Taz he was ww)

[radiant geode]

If splitting the team Apart is something u wanna do Taz Can cause them to run like rats since hes a wall of death. Depends what ur goals are. He‘s fast and causes alot of pressure. But you need to be able to be quick on ur feet and know how to get out when it gets dangerous.

[rocky pollen]

we really need a better training mode

[lapis oasis]

Me and my friend play Taz and bugs (me being Taz) and yea we easily pair well but in solos he’s not too great imo

[frozen wave]

can someone send me an inv to the taz server

[radiant geode]

They should allow Taz to eat Bug‘s safe lol Im starting to wish he could sometimes.

[lyric urchin]

I’ve heard you can if you damage the safe first

[radiant geode]

Really?

[lyric urchin]

And you get an anvil for eating it regardless if you have the perk or not

[radiant geode]

Ill try it I guess

[lyric urchin]

I haven’t fact checked it myself tho

But someone a few days ago said that to me when I mentioned the same thing about Taz eating Bugs safe

[zenith igloo]

i don't understand your character y'all

what is the counterplay against the tornado

i always get caught in it

[pulsar jungle]

You walk away/use a projectile.

If it's charged you just get above him. If it's not you just stay away

Be careful because he CAN eat your projectile, though.

[zenith igloo]

the thing is i usually play non projectile characters so it just feels like there is no way to punish him for using the tornado

[pulsar jungle]

Horrible starting frames. Hit him before it starts

[zenith igloo]

good call

his other AoE attack works similar right?

this one

nevermind i can't send pics

[pulsar jungle]

The cloud? Yeah

[zenith igloo]

yup

[pulsar jungle]

Horrid starting lag, just hit him before it starts, or don't let him get enough distance to start it

[zenith igloo]

alright thanks

[pulsar jungle]

Dw, just tryna help with ur matchup

I can help you train to a degree, I'm not that good

[dull kelp]

What character do you play? If you have strong disjoints you don’t even have to outrun/ use projectiles, you can usually just beat it out clean

[zenith igloo]

jake

[dull kelp]

I will say it’s probably more risk than it’s worth considering it can just be avoided

Oh yeah Jake cannot

Def just outrun if you’re not able to beat it in startup

[pulsar jungle]

Use your range

[zenith igloo]

the stretchy fist has a hurtbox

i'm getting hit when trying to use my only ranged attack

[pulsar jungle]

Axe hand?

[zenith igloo]

as well

and not flexible enough to reliably counter taz

[pulsar jungle]

That's true

[zenith igloo]

the axe has a moderatly long startup as well

[dull kelp]

From my experience vs Jake he really doesn’t have any good disjoints that can contest it, but I think in general it’s better to just avoid it, especially if the taz is trying to tornado from half screen away or further

[frozen wave]

did they patch the jab > neutral infinite???

nvm idk why i couldn’t do it

[simple ridge]

Hey does anyone watch the best perks are for taz

[sinful patio]

doing that infinite is so scrubb

At least do an actual combo

[dull kelp]

It’s not a true infinite with proper di anyways, even the biggest chars can get out but they will take like 80% atleast

[frozen wave]

i do it maybe once a fight

i’ll do it twice and then eat, chomp, spit then upwards

if they don’t die then uair > up special

then they die

or up tilt, depends on situation

[pulsar jungle]

Default perks besides snowball

[vocal cargo]

Does snowball work in 1v1s?

[lyric urchin]

Yes

Your opponent just has to have more damage than you

[rocky pollen]

same

is there even one?

[main ermine]

go to the mvs pro discord then look for the taz meta channel

[tepid breach]

who wins taz vs iron giant

[lyric urchin]

Probably Taz

I’ve played both sides of the matchup, and Taz definitely feels better

[barren knoll]

taz and jake mains sure are rotting, i tried abandoning jake to become a taz main and even taz was difficult to play against characters like finn, harley and bugs

[balmy rock]

Taz up ground is literally just a win button😂

Anytime I feel like it can just juggle you

[meager dirge]

😭 no

iron giant is too broken

[lyric urchin]

Nah, Taz is definitely good. Especially with his jab neutral attack loop letting him pretty reliably get 0-chicken combos

[novel torrent]

I don't even go for the loop taz is just strong because of how absurd his edge guarding tools are

I just do like non truebcobos and hit my opponents off stagebthen just edge guard then or straight up do non true combos into up b edge guard and I manage to.0 to death

by killing on top of.the stage

[rocky pollen]

any good taz combo guides

[novel torrent]

Shaggy maps actually so ass for taz

u can't chase eith uptilt cuz the stage the two sides of the ground falling

and u can't use dash attack to kill

[rocky pollen]

me waiting for ranked

[balmy rock]

Banana guard feels like a hard counter for taz honestly. his jab beats his dash attack, tornado, and dogpile. Cannot go at that man from the floor have to go from above

Taz is ranked #2 in win percentage for all characters in 1's

[sinful patio]

Matchup knowledge

Taz has so little players that ppl dont know the matchup, leading to easy wins

Its similar to Panda and Kuma in tekken, they had the highest win percentage for a long time

[balmy rock]

very true never see taz's

[balmy rock]

I still genuinely think taz is top tier and slept on for real because people arent seeing him enough so they rate him low. No shot in hell he should ever be placed below Jason in some of these tier lists im seeing😂

I cant even remember the last time I lost to a Jason if any other than maybe the first couple days of release

[novel torrent]

Issue is all.his moves are cancelable

and lose most trades

aside from that he has some dumb stuff

he's def better then Jason yhough

like one good combo into an edge guard is just a stock

and he had so many broken tools for edge guarding

like fair tornado up b and down air

also nair if u get it to send toward blast zone

also anvil

[gray bison]

Utilt is so irritating to deal with Jesus Christ

[balmy rock]

Yeah pretty much beats everything and if you get juggled enough or have no dodge left you are cooked

[frozen wave]

yea until you start fighting better players and they know to just dodge when they reach the ground

taz is a good fun character but i’d say at higher levels he’s funniness stops and you gotta actually lock in to get kills

doesn’t help that they are nerfing his combos too

also, many people don’t know how to play against taz since only a small amount of people play him

i main taz and my friends now know how to read everything that im going to do, he can’t win any trade unless the other person is dumb and tries to trade against tornado

and utilt juggling doesn’t work a lot of the time compared to regular 1’s matches (for me)

[peak fiber]

After over 300 games I finally fought a Taz in 1s😂

[balmy rock]

You can read the player and delay the slap though too when you know they are going to dodge. and point still stands if they used their meter they are cooked. And trust me I am playing at high levels just a couple days ago I got matched against mirrorman and g3. He is still really good especially in 2's when the focus is off of you can time people landing on the ground perfectly with his dash attack and that is also nasty when they used their 2 jumps already

[balmy rock]

The hitbox is huge also you can hit them with the very tip of the sandwich or if they have been dodging high hold and wait for them to get lower almost beside you and slam it

[main ermine]

You have to fully charge up tilt to kill sometimes on Taz

Then you have joker or shaggy that can kill at 60 with up tilt not charged

And they have follow up moves to secured the kill

Ofc you’re going to be juggled when you have no meter

Most of the cast can juggle you

[balmy rock]

wasn't talking about killing the move does 10-13 damage per hit you can rack up tons of damage and kill other ways

and yes joker and shaggy and wonder woman are all crazy never said they weren't but personally I think taz is just as good at least in 2's

[main ermine]

Oh yeah in 2s maybe

[balmy rock]

in 1's he is easy to read but if they are preoccupied with your teammate you can land all those moves. a lot of his moves suck in people so you get double the damage

[main ermine]

Yeah in twos he’s better since you have a teammate and support. And jab loop in 2s is fair game since their teammates can easily interrupt you

tornado dogpile and dash are solid kill options

[frozen wave]

yea i have resorted to delaying my attack until they either waste thier dodge or they hit the ground

[main ermine]

Still need to see more gameplay of Taz in 2s

[frozen wave]

but usually they are able to dodge out of the range

[frozen wave]

his utilt range is so far that you can hit someone that’s holding onto the ledge while your on the platform

someone gotta find out what taz’s actually hitboxes on attacks are cuz some of them make no sense 😂

[main ermine]

Moves falling out and uptilt sending them up flying for no reason. Tazs multi hits moves are weird

[radiant geode]

Saw someone Say Taz Struggles against Finns. Why is it thats the match up I like to see? Finns do terrible Against me as Taz. He has no safe way to get past Taz‘s Boot and Cooking Pot.

[river galleon]

Finn's hitbox all beat yours and your safest approach is still uptilt.
What Taz has over Finn is his dair, because Finn can sometimes struggle hitting directly above himself, but outside of that, Finn can more often than not out-maneuver Taz's moves

[radiant geode]

Oh yea, I mean, yeh Taz bad, buff Taz plz.

[river galleon]

When did I ever say anything of the sort?

Stop living in your own dellusion, this is a Finn thing, not a Taz one.

[meager dirge]

Side special, down special?

[radiant geode]

Down special, Boot is oppressive and all Finn has are attacks that dash in

[sinful patio]

U playing some bad finn players

[meager dirge]

I mean the shield

You can buy

[frozen wave]

bro a good finn can really make a taz struggle

dude beats all your trades with any of his attacks

and his backpack beats your tornado (most of the time)

[balmy rock]

Arya is pretty good against taz too her regular jab beats tornado

Didnt stop me from 3 stocking them but noticed that😂

[peak fiber]

😃

Wow awesome jab loop that they missed

Whoever that Taz was thank you for looping me all 3 stocks 😃

[dull kelp]

Di out and you’ll only take like 50% ofc depending on your character, biggest thing is taz jab sucks so you really just need to be focused on spacing out nair bc if he starts with a jab im ngl that’s your fault

[peak fiber]

😂😂😂

Getting hit at all with a jab is my fault smh, what a world we live in

[dull kelp]

It’s truly a bad jab but if you told me what char you played I could give more specific tips

Ur complaining about a pretty bad character comparatively just let me help and relax

[main ermine]

That Taz loop should be removed but people are going to abuse it until it’s gone. Same goes to the people exploiting broken moves on other characters

But at the moment jab is his best combo starter move

Then you have grounded dtilt which sucks and dair being nerfed in the recent patch

[dusk basin]

Bro taz infinite not crazy?

[smoky marten]

you losers complaining about taz infinite do not actually play taz.

gl doing anything vs the cancer that is this roster

[pulsar jungle]

Taz is a generally weak character. He plays off of his cooldowns, side attack, and up attack. Other than these moves, the Tazmainian Devil is a pretty weak character.

He is fun, though.

[novel torrent]

complaing about taking 50 when every top tier and high tier had a 0 to.death or loop to death

🤷‍♀️

probably the type of guy who complain he got read super hard and says THATS UNBALANCED

[chrome bronze]

do someone know what provoque taz bug when tornade do not eject and then you cannot combo any jab after it happens ?

I hope it will be fix with the one that make Taz lock in eating until enemy hit you

[balmy rock]

I deadass just made some guy uninstall on stream as taz😂 💀

[worthy bear]

Love Taz very much

Would very much like his Dad from Tazmania as an Alt

[balmy rock]

Can't wait to get the she-devil skin

[sinful patio]

im 10 tiers away

[frozen wave]

nair is one of his best moves too

if the multi-hit is on your side then your able to nair, sair, nair, sair, and get a stock on an enemy that’s at 10%

it happens

not consistent likes bugs nair tho

[balmy rock]

pulled this one off a couple times

is there any way to chomp with his neutral special in the air

[pulsar jungle]

Taz is so underrated, he's top 3 non busted characters. (Bugs, joker, and black Adam that are almost universally op)

[viscid socket]

can u di taz loops??

[pulsar jungle]

Some, not all

[meager dirge]

nah

WW, Joker and Iron giant

then bugs and steven and BA

[final jetty]

But those are busted

[gentle matrix]

Why does nair do 40%? lol. this character is hilarious

[chilly ravine]

Costs meter xd

[meager dirge]

He can't kill tho

[chilly ravine]

Taz is probably the best character in the game right now. He has a combo loop that doesn't take resources, he has a charging up tilt that's mobile and can be held indefinitely, his fight cloud has an insanely large hitbox and lasts forever, Tornado also is hard to deal with, it either hits first or trades. Glad he's not played much

[dull kelp]

his loop does take resources if you di out, fight cloud and tornado lose to any projectile and disjoint, just play the character for 2 seconds and realize youre incorrect

only chars he gets a no resource loop on are jason and iron giant, and one of those characters is a mario party minigame and the other sucks so

hes strong but not at all the best character in the game thats an insane statement

[chilly ravine]

Kane, brother.

Don't worry.

I'm a Taz main. Top 200 in beta.

That was a pasta I just had to share with yall. It's beyond funny

I don't know if the original pasta was serious though

[dull kelp]

Thank God

Sorry I got ptsd from all the people who don’t know that di exists

My fault OG

[chilly ravine]

That's why the pasta is so good. Made a couple more of them with different characters

Like example

Velma is probably the best character in the game right now. She has a combo loop that only takes a few resources, she has a charging up tilt that's mobile and can be held indefinitely, her motivational speaker has an insanely large hitbox and lasts forever, Toxic Concoction also is hard to deal with, it either hits first or trades. Glad she's not played much

[dull kelp]

Absolutely devious

Gonna drive idiots like me to insanity with those 😂

[sinful patio]

finally got tazmanian she devil

[trim star]

How does Taz's loop work with bite and jab? If someone DI's correctly can it not be followed up?

[chilly ravine]

It cannot.

[trim star]

Gotcha thank ya

[chilly ravine]

And you're also left in whiff frames if you try continue the loop and not respect the DI

[trim star]

Yeaaaah I've experienced it 😁

[chilly ravine]

I would say in low percents it's safe to try and double the loop

But once you hit 30-40ish, only 1 string is generally safe

[trim star]

Also what's the best kill option for him if I hit with jab in like center stage? Sometimes up attack doesn't feel super strong

[pulsar jungle]

The string feels impossible to do in a normal match. Idk if I have a skill issue but I can't properly connect jab 1-soup, even once

[chilly ravine]

Your best bet is to try and up b is it's not on CD after a jab

Or neutral for damage rack up again and you're unsure

[trim star]

I haven't really tried jab soup yet

[trim star]

Okie sounds good, thanks!

[pulsar jungle]

It worked when I set the bot to dodge after hitstun

[trim star]

Oh one other thing if you have a sec, how do I know where neutral-a will send the opponent? It feels random on whether I send them left or right

[chilly ravine]

I'll be honest with you. I've played this character so much. I don't know and I guess the 50/50. I really should lab it.

I want to say the first hit sends them back into you and the 2nd the hit sends them out

So if the initial one only hits they're being sent back. If the both hit they're being sent forward and if only the 2nd hits they're being sent forward

So essentially

You begin neutral air facing this way ➡️

First soup hit will force the opponent in this direction into you ⬅️

Second soup hit will force the opponent this direction away from you ➡️

If you only hit the first soup you opponent will go this way ⬅️

If you hit both soups your opponent will go this way ➡️

If you only hit your second soup you opponent will go this way ➡️

Inverse the directions if you approach from the other side

Does that help @trim star ?

[trim star]

This helps a ton man, that's crazy how complicated they made it 😅 I will be screenshotting this for sure

It's really fun to combo with

[chilly ravine]

After reviewing clips I can 100% say what I said is correct

[chilly ravine]

Be very wary how which direction you're facing once you start neutral air. That's the most important bit

[trim star]

It makes a lot more sense now that I thought about all that during a match

[chilly ravine]

No worries. Happy to help

[meager dirge]

💀"best character" when there is wonder woman, joker and iron giant. Taz can't even kill on like 100 (but that's skill issue)

[chilly ravine]

Silz reading the entire convo challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[meager dirge]

Yea

I didn't have time. Was in my way to school 😭 didn't see you wrote 3 whole Novels

[zinc musk]

Jab neutral special spit up starts killing about 120-125 percent

Depending on stage/character of course

[balmy rock]

Dash kills pretty early too like 80-90 and up tilt like 100ish

Killed a marvin at 32 with his dash attack once when they bounce off a side wall

Not sure but almost seems like it extends hit stun and increases velocity on it did that to an arya before also at about 50

Marvin was on scooby doo mansion with side wall still intact and arya was on game of thrones stage with side walls up still

[vocal cargo]

taz's jab loop getting nerfed soon?

[chilly ravine]

probably never considering you can di out of it the first attempt 30% +

[vocal cargo]

not if ur character is big

it's impossible to di for the first 2-3 loops

[chilly ravine]

Even if your character is big.

[vocal cargo]

nah it's guaranteed for jason, supes, garnet etc

you dont even have to dodge

as taz

just continue with ur jab nlight

[chilly ravine]

it's 100% not guranteed on any of those.

if you were arguing IG, youd be right

but thats intentional

[vocal cargo]

would you like to go in custom so we can test it out? I can't seem to di out using garnet

[chilly ravine]

are you from Aus?

[vocal cargo]

im from Asia! will that lag?

[chilly ravine]

we can actuallly cook then i think

my ign is my discord name

I've invited you

lmk if you cant accept

@vocal cargo connection will be rough, keep trying

[vocal cargo]

yeah looks like dc'ed lol

[chilly ravine]

I'm still in the lobby, you?

[vocal cargo]

sec

st arting

[chilly ravine]

ehh its not looking it's gonna work

if you want a pro tip to make it super simple

if he's hitting you this way

------>

you hold it down this way on your controller

  /\
  /
/

/
/

little more diagonal

and then spam dodge

[vocal cargo]

is that down left or up right?

[chilly ravine]

you will get out even at 0% if you ge the frame right

hold on

↗️

This way

if he's looping you in this direction:

➡️

IF he's looping you in this way:

⬅️

you hold the controller stick this way:

↖️

and spam dodge

[vocal cargo]

gotcha! let me try this when I face a good taz aagain

i was going to the opposite direction before

so maybe that's why it didn't work

[vital anchor]

I wish Taz had more useful perks since his anvil only works against projectile heavy characters and the dogpile is useless outside of 2's

[bright cairn]

Playing against taz used to be fun

[waxen cipher]

playing as taz has been less fun ever since relaunch sadly :(
still love my boy but a bunch of changes between beta and now have made him much less fun to play
slow anvil, less projectiles eatable with bite, soup changes regarding status effect, apple core being gone (i dont mind the boot, i dont like how it functionally changed as a projectile, dont mind it not giving status effect)
still play him as a pocket but hope he becomes more fun again down the line

[chilly ravine]

*hitboxes

And yes. Side air and down air have very fair and small hitboxes which sucks because trying to reliably combo with them is a massive pain constantly seeing them in the enemy yet not counting for the hit.

I'd be 100% down for Tornado and dogpile to get nerfed to kingdom come if it means our sair and down air get bigger hitboxes.

I picked Taz to do combos. Not being a spin bot on whiff

[lapis oasis]

From what I’ve learnt for awhile never play Taz in 1v1s.

sick depressing edit playing<

[devout nova]

I love playing taz in 1s but its a struggle

[chilly ravine]

Playing Taz in 1s basically means subscribing to the fact anyone who knows how to play will outspace you and out disjoint you.

Max you will get is 1 somewhat cool combo then get immediately dropped because the enemy wins in 1 or 2 interaction when you need to win 3+

[frozen wave]

but most of the time you’ll fight players who don’t know how to play against taz

[chilly ravine]

then you win for free for absolutely nothing other than pulling the 1 combo

No mmr

No ranked position

No generally skill increase because you're beating a bad player

[frozen wave]

that’s true

i’m just speaking generally

most of the playerbase doesn’t know how to play against unpopular picks

or characters i should say

so like taz, riendog, marvin, garnet

and jake too but jake is very easy to play against, i feel bad for jake players nowadays

[chilly ravine]

Doesn't matter when your S tier has some of the best buttons in game

[frozen wave]

what

idk what your saying

[chilly ravine]

You're saying that you have an advantage by playing a low tier since they don't have a high pick rate.

I'm saying that even if they don't know what you're doing, it's doesn't matter because the S tier will have the tools to stomp on us regardless

[sinful patio]

Cap

If you are good enough you can beat S tiers this is obvious

[patent swan]

Oh no, are we really back in the "A skilled Roy can beat any Fox" era???

[lyric urchin]

Ok but have you seen Zain? He literally is beating top Fox players with Roy lmao

We’re living that era

[chilly ravine]

Seems so

[patent swan]

In Ult or melee, cause I thought he was a melee player

[lyric urchin]

He is

Zain is a Marth main but he’s been playing Roy to essentially challenge himself over the past few years and has legitimately beaten several top players in tournament with Roy

[rare stream]

Excuse me but any of you could give me tips on playing Taz?

[vocal cargo]

Jab -> nlight -> dodge repeat until they're around 100 then up special or side special to kill

[lyric urchin]

That’s gonna get nerfed potentially next patch

Since they’re looking to remove all loops from the game

[frozen wave]

why would you dodge?

jab > nlight combos without needing to dodge

[dapper coyote]

No more tax loop?

[meager dirge]

If they di

[chilly ravine]

There never was a loop.

[river galleon]

sometimes

if they're close enough, you just go for the jab again

or dodge past them to turn around

but if they seem kinda at the edge of the neutral attack, then you have to dodge in to have your jab land

[chilly ravine]

Or you could grow a pair and do

Sair into dair into sair into nair into jab 1, neutral special

[chilly ravine]

THEY SAID I WAS CRAZY

THEY SAID HITBOX DIDNT NEED A BUFF

AND YET HERE I AM. CORRECT.

[river galleon]

Me when I bite a chunk outta you

[chilly ravine]

Now we can actually reliably do the Sair combo starter

[river galleon]

I still wanna be able to gobble up rockets and safes

[chilly ravine]

Never is gonna happen sadly

Or happen again

To be specific

[chilly ravine]

CELEBRATE BOYS

WE WON

[sinful patio]

Taz mains we had a great victory today

[lyric urchin]

I’m hoping the neutral attack rework is enough to remove his jab neutral attack loops

And I don’t wanna hear the “oh but you can just DI out of it” because you can’t if neutral attack is stale

The knockback buff on dair seems absolutely ludicrous ngl

[sinful patio]

oh the loops are gone for sure

[main ermine]

shaggy n ww got the same kb on moves

[lyric urchin]

I mean sure but neither of their dairs have armor break

I know they previously removed a repeated dair infinite Taz had, but I’m wondering how this is gonna affect dair combos

[teal pagoda]

bro he has an infinite

[chilly ravine]

You can DI out of it.

[chilly ravine]

You

Can

Di

Out

Of

It

[teal pagoda]

yoo which dir?

like i've been taken to 90% so many times lol

[chilly ravine]

I think it may mess with higher percent on stage combos into sair but better for edgeguarding

[chilly ravine]

If he hits you this way:➡️

Hold it this way:↗️

And use dodge.

Vice versa applies

[teal pagoda]

stg i tried that, maybe wasn't holding up as well

[chilly ravine]

Be sure you hold up. Holding it straight makes you liable to be bounced and give 0 frames out of hitstun

[patent swan]

I love that it's a common consensus that no one knows how to get n-air angles to work for them lmao

[river fjord]

very neat that they removed the Jaundice Eyes from tooniverse taz, because why should we get cool things

[main ermine]

NO WAY

THEY DID THAT

[balmy rock]

His loop is gone

[pearl garnet]

jaundice eyes

😭

[potent tiger]

Hows Taz for yall

[main ermine]

Majority don’t like him

Even the streamers

I haven’t got on yet so I’ll probably type in here again

[potent tiger]

Why?

[main ermine]

From what I’m hearing, Saucy combos are gone and the most you could do is a 2-3hit move

Some of his moves aren’t connecting like the patch notes were saying

But mainly moves that you can follow up with are gone.

Since spit comboed into a lot of IAD options

Like spit into nair/sair/dair

Some are having issues picking up Anvil even after binding the pickup button

Jab into eat gone aswell

[balmy rock]

This game as a whole just feels like dog after this patch ngl feels like you can't combo with anyone anymore

Whole game is just going to revolve around whiff punishing and spamming broken moves now with no combo game

[main ermine]

as Taz we might have to starting baiting dodges and punishing those

Until then, wait for them to change him again or we play another character

[river galleon]

ignore what they say.
Taz is saucy as hell, he's also very fast for the current speed of the game, so you really get to schmoove

[main ermine]

Send some clips

[river galleon]

My PC is already in its deathbed

[main ermine]

I need the sauce you’re speaking of

[river galleon]

I don't think I can record

[main ermine]

Describe what you did

In the combo

So I can try it when I get home

[river galleon]

it's not about combos

as in, full, real strings

it's about being completely free to just run in and out and punish as well as read dodges

Taz is THE speedster of the game right now

[chilly ravine]

Can we no longer do Sair into Dair into Sair in Nair in jab 1 into finish?

[river galleon]

the sair hitbox feels so nice now

[main ermine]

Hmm I gotta see for my self, Batman was looking like the real speedster and he actually had sauce

[river galleon]

Batman is a true brawler

he gets in and just puts you in a blender

[main ermine]

IAD dair?

Or sair they bounce into dair

[river galleon]

Batman is actually about combos, Taz is about drive-by's

[main ermine]

It might be possible with high hp

[river galleon]

you poke them until they mess up and you then rush in for a punish

[main ermine]

I haven’t test him yet

[chilly ravine]

I'll show a reference clip

[main ermine]

Taz had combos tho

N I’m not taking about the bs loops

The spit nerf removed his IAD combos

Completely

[chilly ravine]

https://youtu.be/6EGu4X4qvbg?si=xzx67Qmz6Df_CM_9

Starting at 00:51

That's the combo I was hoping got buffed with the Sair change

@main ermine

IAD?

[main ermine]

Should hit if the enemy bounces off the floor

[main ermine]

Instant Air Dodge

But if they di a certain way they won’t bounce off when you hit sair

[chilly ravine]

My thought process is if "loops" got nerfed it's nbd because the sair combos still work

[main ermine]

I’ll test it out when I get on

[chilly ravine]

But if they no longer work (dair Kb change) then the character is gutted

I'll test when I'm off work unfortunately

Which is 8 hours from now roughly

[main ermine]

They testing it

I’ll let you know

[chilly ravine]

Gl

Oh nah. Just asked one of the top Taz's how they feel about the new patch

Apparently it's one of the worst versions.

We're cooked

[main ermine]

i hit a variant of it with IAD nair

its inconsistent, so something i got to practice to make it reliable

[chilly ravine]

So grounded soup is apparently lockout'd

Whew.

What a Trojan horse

[sinful patio]

Taz players we aint finished just yet.

[chilly ravine]

I'll see what I can cook

[main ermine]

dash atk is broken lmao

and anvil cant be picked up

[chilly ravine]

Ffs what did they do

[late prairie]

rn for me

its the only one that feels with a big downgrade compare to last patch

[late prairie]

yeah they ruined the dash attack

for me taz was a risk reward character

doing the dash means people can dodge and oops

or even the loop
yeah it was a good forsaken loop
but if you missed all your dodge meter was gone and people will punish you for it

[dapper coyote]

Taz good asf

[sinful patio]

facts

[chilly ravine]

I'm hearing otherwise from top level Taz's

[late prairie]

wasn't this loop thing able to stop superman?

well it looks it didn't stop superman

only screw on taz

while joker can still do 0 to deaths
finn still do 0 to deaths

steven can still combo

black adam...still the same

[late prairie]

is it me or they also nerfed the up special of taz on the wall?

[chilly ravine]

oh dear. Taz doesnt feel good.

[chilly ravine]

Taz feels awful

why cant we even pick up anvil now?

WHY DOESNT DASH ATTACK CONNECT BRO

BROOO WTFFF

[main ermine]

Bug + how consistently did you hit that combo?

Usually it’s not worth since you have to bite pretty close n the chance of you clashing is still there

Unless I’m fighting extremely passive players

[potent fossil]

Yo I came in here to say taz feels amazing!

[gray bison]

Taz mains on their way to cry about having a high tier character and beg for more

[potent fossil]

Hitboxes feel way better

[main ermine]

Bro probably played 5 matches with Taz today

And hasn’t run into any of his problems

Hitboxes are better since they buffed sair and dair

[potent fossil]

Idk it’s nothing crazy but over 200 wins with taz. Feels much better. Don’t rely on the dash attack lol

[main ermine]

It’s a fast kill option on stage?

Why not use it if ppl know it’s an insanely good dash move

If someone’s on stage at 140 ima dash

Breaks armor with perk too

[potent fossil]

My main gripe with taz was his hitboxes compared to others in the cast. So happy we got help there. Don’t need to rely on dash attk

What else don’t you like about the changes besides dash?

[main ermine]

Sair hitbox was a plus. Obviously you don’t need to rely on it. But it’s a platform fighter. We can’t have moves not connecting. Cause it’ll cost you the set

Scroll up a bit

[potent fossil]

Just the dash not connecting? Havnt experienced it yet.

[main ermine]

Sair is nice and there’s some combos but those aren’t really reliable

[main ermine]

can’t pick up anvil

Invisible dogpile glitch in 2s

[potent fossil]

I hate anvil anyway never use but that’s just me haha

[main ermine]

Hmm

[potent fossil]

5% better in my mind

Those are legit issues hopefully they fix but won’t effect me much

[main ermine]

What’s your level on Taz

Cause maybe it’s just a mmr diff

And you just haven’t seen what other players can do on characters

[potent fossil]

Uhh idk I don’t think so. I’m nothing crazy but play against streamers and pros a decent amount at my mmr. Taz only 11 right now as I stopped playing him until these changes

Not claiming to be a monster at this game or anything but I am just one person liking most of the changes for taz right now 🙂

[main ermine]

Don’t get me wrong he’s not bottom 1 like other people are saying

Definitely mid tier

[potent fossil]

I’m ok with that. I’m kind of edgy and hate playing top 5 characters lol

[main ermine]

But they removed a lot of his sauce imo

Which sucks for me personally

Looks like I playing awkward when I rewatch clips

Joker, Arya, Ww,Batman still got the same saucy combos they had before the patch

[potent fossil]

I can definitely agree with that for sure

I hated his bad hitboxes so much lol

Felt so bad

[main ermine]

Yea dair would sometimes fall out or not even hit

[potent fossil]

Omg it was the worst

[main ermine]

Same with sair but they differently nerfing sair dmg/kb next patch 😂

[potent fossil]

Already needed nair dmg which I understand

Said feels so good rn haha

Sair

[main ermine]

I understand the nair dmg reduction

[potent fossil]

Totally it was crazy

[main ermine]

No move should do 30 dmg

Sair is nice to hit

Did dair into sair twice and got an ez stock

[potent fossil]

You think sair doing like 11 rn is too much?

[main ermine]

But people aren’t going to like playing against Taz if he’s a cheese character

That’s why we need combo game on stage

[main ermine]

Probably fine I mostly meant kb since one sair can probably insta kill if they di badly

[potent fossil]

Ya I feel that. I hope they don’t tho haha

If they do we better get some combo game back

[main ermine]

Either reduce kb or make stage larger like they did this patch

[potent fossil]

So what’s going on with dash attack? Just not getting into second hit? I’m in the lab trying to find what’s wrong with it

[main ermine]

Look in clips

I’ll post someone’s clip in there

[potent fossil]

Kk

Also have you found any good jab combos?

[main ermine]

Jab spit jump sair

Jab reverse spit jump sair

Got those from other Taz players

And add nair in front of those

[potent fossil]

Ah nice

[main ermine]

Nair into chomp

[gray bison]

Jokers so called saucy combos are just 0tds

[main ermine]

The air walker one

Or the down special into down special 0td

[gray bison]

Down b into down b isn't true anymore i think

[chilly ravine]

ONLY ONCE

HAHAHAH WE'RE SO COOKED

[forest creek]

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[potent fossil]

Damn taz channel be dead haha. Love me some taz

[main ermine]

most ppl in the taz cord play him still, some quit or started maining other characters

but yeah kinda dead ngl

[zinc musk]

I'm curious whether jab to bite not working is intended or a side effect of whatever they did to jab to make • Ground Side Attack 1
• * Fixed an issue preventing Taz from doing actions other than side attack after jab 1

[chilly ravine]

It's all most likely bugs

[fluid raft]

question
how long were you able to hold dash attack for
is that a brand new thing cus that is insane

[chilly ravine]

You were always able to hold it in the one direction for quite a while

Since launch, I mean

[fluid raft]

I've only seen it in use today, I've never known it was a thing already

[chilly ravine]

Yes! And they nerfed it for no reason!

Most likely a bug.

In their attempt to make it connect more, I've had it consistently miss att 2 more now

[fluid raft]

I just went into training and it connects every time, but then again that is a sand bag I'm fighting so its not accurate usually
might have to try playing more taz now that I know this is a thing

[chilly ravine]

I think it's now DI'able. Which was the opposite intended effect

[fluid raft]

mmm right

[chilly ravine]

Not sure how they managed that. But oh well.

[fluid raft]

I'm surprised by a lot of things they manage
like the thing that got Jason removed, I was a jason main, and they took him from me lol

[pliant moth]

I'm unable to pick up the anvil after spitting it out, is anyone else having this issue or just me?

[potent fossil]

I’ve heard of that issue but don’t play anvil

[river galleon]

known bug, yes

[chilly ravine]

Yes. PFG are absolute bumbling morons. Nothing new

[late prairie]

No

Literally this mid season patch didnt work at all

Nerf ww
Still top tier

Nerf joker

Still can do 0 to death

Buff finn
Why

Nerf bugs
Still can do combos and have easy wins

Nerf shaggy
Still broken

Buff velma
Now her megaphone can attack through walls

Nerf steven
Still have combos and abuse with bubble oustide stage and spams shield

The only characters that really got penalized in this patch

Were taz and a bit banana guard

[cobalt spade]

Looking for a taz main on ps

[cobalt spade]

@humble mulch

[humble mulch]

Sup

[cobalt spade]

Looking for a taz teammate

[humble mulch]

Hmmm what’s ur main

[cobalt spade]

Taz

[humble mulch]

Oh u want to double taz?

[cobalt spade]

Yup

Would go xrazy in 2v2s

[humble mulch]

Sure I’m down let’s be do it

[cobalt spade]

Gimme your psn

[humble mulch]

It’s on my discord

[cobalt spade]

Sent you FQ

[humble mulch]

Yeah send invite now

[cobalt spade]

Ok 1minute gotta turn the game on

[humble mulch]

That was a good bite Lol

[cobalt spade]

In 2s he's strong af
In 1s however...meh

[nimble hatch]

Why did they change Tooniverse Taz's yellow eyes?

[chilly ravine]

same reason they removed our ability to pick up anvils

and same reason they made dash att 2 more prone to missing/

and same reason we cant ground combo anymore

[river galleon]

stop being delusional and making stuff up

[nimble hatch]

They aren't far off tbh

Besides the arbitrary reasoning

[river galleon]

it's just dumb to play victim so hard over things like that

people see 1 thing going worse than expected and act like PFG actively hates them and wants them away from the game

then pretend they don't sound insane

[main ermine]

Honestly sucks tbh

Heard someone refunded it but who knows

One of the main reasons I bought the skin lol. They changed the black outline and eyes 😔

[nimble hatch]

I'm assuming it's an oversight when doing a pass over the assets. Cause they improved things like his salt and pepper shakers. Human error for sure but such an odd choice.

I hope they know about the taznado hit box bug too cause that still seems messed up.

[main ermine]

I feel like jab is worse now

[main ermine]

Doing jab spit into dodge jump sair gives them a dodge window

When doing vomit into dodge jump sair/nair is more consistent for me

Small chip dmg when you can just spam nair and sair

Jab into eat work in certain percentages tho

but you can just nair into eat

[nimble hatch]

I was talking about the graphical assets of the salt shakers, not their balance.

[chilly ravine]

None of those were made up.

Those are all actual things.

[river galleon]

The reasoning is made up tho

All in your head

[chilly ravine]

Oh yeah probably

It's just funny af it's all compounding from 1 point

Easier to laugh at it being some 1 rouge very angry PFG dev who hates Taz

[zinc musk]

I think they fall under the same reasoning though. Mistakes made while trying to fix other issues.

If in your patch notes say you’re trying to make something connect more ‘dash attack’ and it connects less that’s a mistake in implication like what I think a lot of the issues with taz are right now.

[surreal dust]

Rip yall taz mains

Yall lost your loop and fell off hard

[zinc musk]

He doesn’t need it imo. He’s unconventional and not strong in 1’s because of it but in twos he’s obnoxious to the point he’s good.

[surreal dust]

From A tier to bottom B😭

[zinc musk]

Or you can just spam tornado even on cool down and he does what every other character does without as much kill power in 1’s

Having sair actually hit is a huge deal for him.

Everyone was doomers week 1 and every taz “main” has been doomers about taz about everything.

Is what it is

Losing jab to bite is his biggest problem especially in 1’s cause he lost his kill confirm

[main ermine]

jab into eat jab into soup spit loop wasnt what taz relied on

it was spit into iad sair or nair

and taz right now, cant dodge cancel any move rn except for dp

but you shouldnt be dodge cancelling that move since u can just jump

and we lost anvil perk and consistent dash atks

dont know much about 2s

[zinc musk]

In 2s taz functions as a disrupter and converter on any horizontal hit. The biggest weakness of him in 2’s is that his plan doesn’t mesh with other characters well

1s as it exists either doesn’t exist at all or doesn’t get changed. As long as you have moves with big hitboxes that are not able to be punished on whiff you are always going to have some character at the top even if it is only one move they have that is thrown out in neutral and nothing else. And the rest of the character doesn’t matter at that point.

And the character at the top is always going to be the one with the biggest reward to risk ratio on a move.

[hot hemlock]

might not be in here but if you're tag is dustyfuzz and you just played a t&j, ggs man, had fun in that set

[graceful sundial]

How do you deal with the tornado and the cloud move?

[zinc musk]

Who do you play?

Characters specifically can deal with them with vertical extended down airs like Ariya and Wonder Woman but if you don’t have a move that beats it straight out like a projectile the best option is to wait to the moves are over.

[late prairie]

B from buttom?

[late prairie]

True
Tbh, like the only character i saw suffering from tornado was jason
Te rest have at least an attack to stop tornado

While cloud depends

Can be a proyectile
Or a ranged attack but thats finnicky

[upbeat cove]

I think Taz should be able to eat batman little bomb he plants on opponents

[halcyon linden]

Which sig is best for him ngl😔I feel the the one with his cloud is best for 2v2 but only 2v2😔

And the other one where he eats a projectile and he his down special turns into and anvil only works against mages or other characters like shaggy

So would 5% be best overall

[chrome ferry]

tbh tho everyone has some form of projectile

apart from banana guard

[halcyon linden]

Also ww but that depends if you count the lasso as a projectile and even if you do, how you gonna eat it😭

Also Jason but he is fairly easy to fight as taz ngl

Can you eat garnets hands?

I gotta try that ngl

[chrome ferry]

gauntlets? yeah id assume so

[halcyon linden]

💀I though those were her hands but ig not😭gauntlets makes more sense💀

[chrome ferry]

nah she got gauntlets😭

they count as projectiles so id assume you can eat them

anvil perk is good

[halcyon linden]

Ig I’ll try it out

[halcyon linden]

I feel like the 5% is better tho cuz the anvil one is soo specific😭but yeah it does take people off guard ngl so it has that

[lyric urchin]

But you can’t pick up anvil for some reason currently

That definitely has to be a bug

[chrome ferry]

anvil is a heavy projectile

[chrome ferry]

you cant?

yeah thats probably a bug

[lyric urchin]

No they broke anvil

[chrome ferry]

F

anvil will be good once they fix that

[lyric urchin]

I think anvil needs a buff tbh

You throw it so slowly

Fix it so you can throw it again and then buff its speed a bit

[halcyon linden]

Yea I’ve tried that and it didn’t work😭

[lyric urchin]

Anvil in beta was so good

As fast as Shaggy sandwich and killed at like 100

[halcyon linden]

The good old days

[main ermine]

anvil is good once they fix it

but run 5% rn

some projectiles can be eaten then thrown back either way

for ex if you eat sandwich or bugs bunny pie

it spits out sandwhich

some projectiles are bugged tho like batmans batarang and some wont give you any projectiles to spit out like bugs rocket

[late prairie]

Who's mothermilkbv?

brings a bad name to taz names

[chilly ravine]

How so

[halcyon linden]

Aight

[upbeat cove]

Is Taz not picking up the anvil a bug?

[halcyon linden]

Yea I think so

[patent swan]

Yup. They made it a heavy projectile

[oblique epoch]

why does taz have the most jank hitboxes

[upbeat cove]

Tiny character syndrome

[oblique epoch]

he has vaccum hands

[chilly ravine]

I wish this was us

So bad

All our hitboxes(barring upspecial) are beyond honest to the point they're bad

[surreal dust]

Yall taz players are chads

Keep being awesome

[patent swan]

Not arguing, but what about Tornado?

Also f-air

[main ermine]

Anvil fix lemme know if they shadow fixed dash atk

[zinc musk]

F-air is fair Compared to some hitboxes it is more than honest

[cobalt spade]

Yo im lookin for a taz main to play with

Double taz goes crazy

[halcyon linden]

Frfr

[cobalt spade]

you down?

[chilly ravine]

Tornado dies to most disjoints now and the hitbox has been shown to be a Rectangle that leaves almost the entire quarter of the top half without a hitbox.

Fair/Sair is THE most honest move in the game I swear to the Lord. Even with the BUFF it received to its size, it still has to be dead on the enemy and even then just magically whiffs half the time.

[patent swan]

Minus. I remember you could link 3 into each other at launch

[novel monolith]

why taz dash attacks have bug

always canceled