Stripe

[minor yew]

In ranked?

Yes

Why

[sonic parcel]

That ain’t possible

[sonic parcel]

How???

[visual narwhal]

With stripe it's crazy 😭

[minor yew]

I had a big jump mid season with stripe buffs

I wasn’t that good at approaching and didn’t use dynamite

[sonic parcel]

I mean I thought it was hard to get masters 1 with 60%

[sonic parcel]

Oh alr makes sense

[minor yew]

I can tell this is evident he’s cause I’m beating top stripes who has destroyed me before

Anyways

You’re still ass

Worse than me in fact

[visual narwhal]

Just because I have my main in top 10? I don't downplay him lol

[minor yew]

I don’t downplay my main either

[sonic parcel]

U main stripe?

[minor yew]

This mf thinks basically all of stripe combos with jab should be gone

Like are yall ed bro

What combos would he have outside of jab 2x

[sonic parcel]

Not all just jab2x - jump dair

[visual narwhal]

You say stripe it's low high tier meaning chars like PPG, BA, Gizmo and many more are better than him that's straight up downplay lmao

[next palm]

stripe is a humble low tier might even be bottom 2

[minor yew]

Ion know about that

[visual narwhal]

I main Morty rn and he's pretty good in the meta, the only problem to him rn are dodge jab chars like Shaggy or Agent Smith

[minor yew]

Tell me what combos he has outside of jab 2x rq, I forgot

[visual narwhal]

Do we need to say anything into gun? Lol

[minor yew]

It’s mainly jab 2x into gun

It’s only jab 2x into gun

[sonic parcel]

You still have a lot but I literally only say remove (jab2x dair and jab gun) you still got shi like

Jab2X - iad upair
Jab2X - Uptilt
Jab2X- upspecial
Jab2X- iAd dair
Jab2X - downtilt(stacked

[visual narwhal]

Dair gun, dash attack gun, jab jab down tilt, jab jab up tilt, I'm pretty sure there's more

[sonic parcel]

Dair goes into literally every too

[minor yew]

Be sides iAds, theres only uptilt

And uptilt only has up air and up special

[sonic parcel]

Tfym besides iAd it’s only 2 bars. You cant just remove it

They recognise it as a mechanic already 😭

[minor yew]

I don’t know any good combo routes with downtilt, and it’s inconsistent af

Jab2x up special gives you nothing and doesn’t kill

So literally, like I imagined, you’re asking for most of his combos to be removed

[sonic parcel]

“Only uptilt”

[minor yew]

Great that you’re not in the balance team

If that even exists

[sonic parcel]

Uptilt can be follow up with dair on certain %

[minor yew]

Not counting things that are inconsistent

[sonic parcel]

Inconsistent how

It’s weight factor

[minor yew]

Because go in lab rn, and try doing it at 0

I don’t care if it’s a weight factor

[sonic parcel]

Do it on 30%

[minor yew]

Not counting it bro

[sonic parcel]

You aren’t hitting an uptilt when an enemy is 0% bro

U said urself bad frame data

That’s an easy punish

[minor yew]

Jab 2x, dash and press uptilt at the same time

Wow

[visual narwhal]

He doesn't need his combos removed stripe only needs 1 dynamite and gun not being able to spike for free

[sonic parcel]

It’s literally a 30% combo starter

That does not mean it is inconsistent

Just because it doesnt start at 0

[minor yew]

Only nerf he needs is dynamite cooldown

That’s literally it

[sonic parcel]

Glaze atp @visual narwhal

Delusional stripe main

It’s such a carried character too

[minor yew]

I mean gun spiking is od

But I’m not sure how it can get nerfed without nerfing gun in general

[sonic parcel]

When you are above the enemy you can’t shoot them downwards

[minor yew]

No

[sonic parcel]

They stay in the same place while taking 3 bullets

[minor yew]

That removes his gun combos

[sonic parcel]

Yes

[sonic parcel]

Good

[minor yew]

Get out

Like don’t speak here ever again

Don’t touch stripe

[sonic parcel]

Dynamite + gun + uptilt 2x kills minimum 120%

That’s it

[minor yew]

Dude is trolling

[sonic parcel]

Ong I’m not

[visual narwhal]

Hell naw he's still oppresive af off stage without risking snything

And that's with gun having a bug btw, if they fix gun the character becomes top 3

[minor yew]

You just want stripe to be a low tier

It’s actually crazy

Like I’m done speaking to you man

[sonic parcel]

If that makes him low tier then you are highly mistaken

[minor yew]

I know what Typa person you are

[minor yew]

You’re asking for ALL of his combos to be removed

[sonic parcel]

Bro you are literally playing a carried character

[minor yew]

Look at what you’re saying

[sonic parcel]

And I changed my mind now

Y’all can keep those dair combos

Dynamite + gun + uptilt 2x kills minimum 120%

[minor yew]

Like I said, I think it’s OD but I’m not sure how they can nerf it without nerfing gun

[sonic parcel]

That’s all that needs to be changed

It’s a normal nerf

[sonic parcel]

They can’t, that’s the only way

[minor yew]

Killing at 120 isn’t overpowered

[sonic parcel]

Yea I know

That’s why i said it

It shouldn’t kill at <100

[minor yew]

Oh

[sonic parcel]

It should kill characters like shaggy at 120 minimum

Maybe characters like gizmo and Harley at 100

[visual narwhal]

Simply bad design, it was good on beta since everyone was so fast they could recover in a single second but that's different now, you are slower and if they hit you before going off stage you are pretty much dead

[minor yew]

But you’re asking for stripe kill power to be tuned down and you already have to be creative with his kills

[minor yew]

Gun off stage doesn’t kill as much as you think really

[visual narwhal]

Still, something like dash attack shouldn't be that crazy

[sonic parcel]

120 is so easy to obtain anyways

Creativity does even matter

[minor yew]

Shaggy dash attack is 10x better in terms of actually hitting

[sonic parcel]

You got gun and shi

[sonic parcel]

💀💀

[minor yew]

Nobody complains about that

Fast ass dash attack and yet stripe dash attack needs nerfing

[sonic parcel]

You can see that shi coming from a mile away

[minor yew]

Gun is sometimes inconsistent with killing

[sonic parcel]

Shi has 10s whiff

[minor yew]

You know how many times I’ve lost due to gun not killing at 150

[sonic parcel]

Just bugs or the angle

[visual narwhal]

It does, it's easy to make your opponent to be below you, again, with IAD dair

[minor yew]

Can you play stripe

[visual narwhal]

Yes

[sonic parcel]

Definetly does

[minor yew]

Do it

[minor yew]

Not a 100% death like yall say it is

[visual narwhal]

I also can play against high level stripes like darknight so I know about him lol

[minor yew]

Good you can get a stock on him

That’s it

[sonic parcel]

Like this: #clips message

Was in s2 diamond

When I used to main stripe

[minor yew]

Eh not even true

[visual narwhal]

I actually win and that's crazy knowing that Stripe it's a -1 for Morty lol

I lose tho but last time we played on ranked I won

[sonic parcel]

Im talking about the gun spike

Not the combo itself

Hold up(w or analog stick) while shooting the gun it’s like a guaranteed

[visual narwhal]

He still can't do nothing off stage btw, unless stripe has bad luck and he gets the gun bug lol

[minor yew]

I don’t even think dark knight plays this much anymore

[sonic parcel]

AINT NO WAY YOU GOT A STOCK ON STTIPE AS MORTY

[minor yew]

Exactly

[sweet turret]

Bro's still the top stripe in the world rn

[sonic parcel]

Bro stripes don’t even have to try to beat Morty

[minor yew]

Why I find that hard to believe

[minor yew]

He’s incredibly good, he played since beta and personally I didn’t play beta myself

[sweet turret]

Yes he is, he's the guy when it comes to this character

[minor yew]

Pretty sure he was a top stripe in beta

[sonic parcel]

But even so, the only think you have to worry about Morty when playing stripe is ONE move

Just side special

Stripe counters his grenades options

Unless you get baited

[visual narwhal]

It's such a rough matchup like he can survive dirt up air if he gets dynamite in the hand and not even talking about how his up b delete my nades lol

[sonic parcel]

Im surprised you even beat him

[visual narwhal]

#clips message funny dynamite

[sonic parcel]

Morty was my most fun match up to go against as stripe

[visual narwhal]

It's a funny matchup tbh it's either getting destroyed or destroy the other one

[sonic parcel]

Nah bro was cooking him

Damage difference is crazy

[minor yew]

Only true thing you said

[sweet turret]

That's how I feel about it honestly. Grenades can be cleared easily but dirt is still such a pain

[sonic parcel]

Yea it was to the only move I had to watch out for the most

[minor yew]

Mud wall sucks

[sonic parcel]

I mean I only played stripe s2

It wasn’t that bad then

[minor yew]

You haven’t played stripe this season? And you’re trying to infer that you know the character better than me

[sonic parcel]

And someone use it to punish you going for grenades

[sonic parcel]

When did I say I’m trying to know the character better than you😭

[minor yew]

Look at the things you were saying this me

[sonic parcel]

No I just got stripe dia 1 in s2 then I dropped him to play beetlejuice

[sonic parcel]

I said you was glazing yes

[minor yew]

What I’m hearing is, I’m salty I lost to a stripe in beetle juice

[sonic parcel]

I said u didn’t use iad much yes

[minor yew]

And he’s op

[minor yew]

There’s no reason to

[visual narwhal]

I was going to get such a good clip against darknight but he deleted my nade 😭

[shell plume]

Oh ye he def getting

[visual narwhal]

Lemme upload it

[shell plume]

Nerfed

😭

[sonic parcel]

I don’t think I’ve gone against a stripe yet 😭

[minor yew]

We do not care

[shell plume]

Love stripe but rip

[sonic parcel]

Actually I have

[minor yew]

Then why are you complaining about him

[sonic parcel]

In 2s

[sonic parcel]

I can show messages in s2 when I said stripe was broken

Whilst maiming him

No reason to defend a character I don’t play 🤷‍♂️

[minor yew]

Okay but it’s S3

[sonic parcel]

S3 he got buffs

What do
Want me to say

[minor yew]

S3 you don’t know how the buffs affected him

[visual narwhal]

Not talking with people who needs his character buffed to get masters

[sonic parcel]

Ive seen it in training bro

I’m not stupid

Nair in cooldown trajectory has been changed

[minor yew]

Dude you shouldn’t be saying stripe should get nerfed if you don’t play him or ever played one this season

[sonic parcel]

It will ground bounce

[sweet turret]

Bite is actually crazy now

[sonic parcel]

I played him the entire of s2

What’s ur point

And s2 I said he was broken

And he got buffed

[shell plume]

Ngl why are yall argurimg abt who played him this season or not

It shouldnt matter

[minor yew]

???))

[shell plume]

We all know he gon get touched

Wheter we like itmor.not

[sonic parcel]

If a broken character got buffed would I say he’s no longer broken @minor yew ?

[shell plume]

Honestly i wouldnt be mad if he had changes if that happens

But if i see people complain hes still broken after nerfs

[visual narwhal]

You got masters on season 2 or did you wait until your character was broken?

[minor yew]

I didn’t play season 2 much

Ok the “buffs” stripe got was movement and the bite move which barely any stripes use

[sonic parcel]

Bro talking the most when he has played stripe less

But we aren’t ready for that one

[minor yew]

The only “buff” that affected me was movement with dair, and every character had that buff

Let’s get that out of the way

The movement affected everyone

[minor yew]

Doesn’t matter if I play stripe the most right now???

[sonic parcel]

What rank was u in s2

[minor yew]

You’re talking about the last

[visual narwhal]

I played 190 ranked games and got masters
You played 200 ranked games and didn't even get out of diamond

Okay

[minor yew]

Diamond

[sonic parcel]

You literally was the one who bringing it up

[minor yew]

I guess you’re better

Like

[sonic parcel]

“If you don’t play stripe why are you talking or something”

[minor yew]

Morty has a lot of good matchups

Hardly has any bad matchups

[sonic parcel]

💀

[shell plume]

Most silloest arguements ever 😭

Yall are argurin over nun atp

So silly i cant even type right

[minor yew]

Yeah because you don’t play him RIGHT NOW

like you said

[sonic parcel]

Morty has a lot of bad match ups tfym 😭

[minor yew]

He doesn’t

[sonic parcel]

Yikes

[minor yew]

Tell me

Them

Ig I don’t play Morty enough

[sweet turret]

Why are we still arguing about this

[minor yew]

@visual narwhal what grandmasters rank you’re in, I think I’ve played you

[sonic parcel]

Like almost anyone who can destroys projectiles safely

[minor yew]

Such as

[sonic parcel]

Gizmo and stripe are good examples of it

[sweet turret]

Supes and freeze breath?

[sonic parcel]

Gizmo has his popcorn and his umbrella and stripe has his upspecial

[sonic parcel]

Yea a lot of supes have started using freeze breathe a lot more

and close combat is were superman is best at

[minor yew]

Okay and who else

[sonic parcel]

ww

[visual narwhal]

No, in fact he loses against a lot of top tiers, specially if they can do something against projectiles https://x.com/Nan0non/status/1842454273805721651?t=SqbVgSzm3hr7jVmoF_xivw&s=19

[sonic parcel]

I heard bunch of Morty complain abt her

[minor yew]

I would say Morty has a good matchup against wonder women

[visual narwhal]

35 rn

[sweet turret]

Tell me about it lol. They're either jab jab down tilting you or camping for laser

[minor yew]

I feel like I played you, I just can’t remember

[sonic parcel]

That’s just not true

[minor yew]

Me personally I have played good wonder woman’s and didn’t struggle

[sonic parcel]

Oh gizmo was even my bad then

[sonic parcel]

As Morty?

[minor yew]

Yes

[sonic parcel]

Then you played a bad Wonder Woman g

How does a wonderwoman lose against a Morty 😂😂😂

[minor yew]

Finn, batman, Superman in -1

Alrightttt

[minor yew]

Maybe I did, maybe I didn’t

You don’t know that

Quit assuming

[sonic parcel]

If a Marvin loses to an iron giant I will say he’s bad

Same way if a ww loses to a Morty

[minor yew]

But iron giant still is really good

Bad example

[sonic parcel]

Good example

[visual narwhal]

I only remember playing against darknight and another ttv stripe tbh

[sonic parcel]

Marvin is -1 for iron giant

[minor yew]

When iron giant is still a top tier

[sonic parcel]

Lmao

[minor yew]

I would say that’s a bad example

[visual narwhal]

Finn has aerial up b who is a teleport that deletes projectiles, Batman it's just Batman lol

And Superman has ice breath and armor, Morty sucks against armor

[sonic parcel]

I’m pretty sure darkknight said iron giant was a winning match up

For stripe

💀

[visual narwhal]

The only way to delete armor is plumbus and it's such a slow move that it's more of a troll move

[minor yew]

For Superman don’t try using grenades and rely on your melee move as Morty has good Morty moves

For Batman, utilize mud wall and play distance as Batman relies on jab and batarang which can cause be destroyed with mud wall

Same goes for Finn, as he relies on medium ranged moves

[minor yew]

What does that have to do with what I’m saying

[cinder kettle]

Your cooked 😭

[sonic parcel]

Super cooked

[minor yew]

I have played a top 10-20 iron giant and you would say the same thing

[visual narwhal]

Dirt is not that good anymore against Batman, it was crazy good before but now you get whiff for destroying a projectile

And btw, finn basically has armor buns making nades and blaster useless, you get that and you can rush at morty with no downsides

[minor yew]

I only play grandmasters and masters iron giants

[sonic parcel]

They were just better than you that’s it

[minor yew]

sure but there’s still some bs going on

Active hitbox is one of the them

[sonic parcel]

Ngl true

[minor yew]

His LOOPS

[sonic parcel]

Too much cheese

If they remove nair I will be celebrating so much

[minor yew]

his BOLTS

is annoying

[sonic parcel]

Rework all his moves that spins 😭

[minor yew]

esp when youre about to kill him

[minor yew]

Honestly ig loops is my main problem

[sonic parcel]

I remember I got 0td by an irony giant once before his iad Nair nerf

[minor yew]

I didn’t know into the verse started

[sweet turret]

Yeah they're showing off Nubia rn. Bit of an interesting moveset ngl

[sonic parcel]

#clips message

Finally found the clip

It was against one of the best iron giant H377

I think he was 2nd I’m not sure

[sonic parcel]

My dumbass thought dash attack would have more priority then IG Nair, and ending up getting clipped 😭

[minor yew]

another stripe loop found, nice

one second of labbing

but yall prob alrd know what it is

[sonic parcel]

Show

[minor yew]

stripe trash up air is selling me bro

why is stripe up air so bad

yeah i lost another set to stripes trash up air

[shell plume]

Bro that move is so good

Kills early

[minor yew]

no it does not

[shell plume]

Ive killed people at 110 100-103 and sometimes even 95

His down tilt is bad

That move is js his worst

[lavish carbon]

Stripe dash attack is so dumb good outta dodge

[minor yew]

WE DIDNT GET TOUCHED

basically

idc about dynamite

#patch-notes

[ebon shell]

what did the 20 frames do?

[lavish carbon]

Party!!

[lavish carbon]

I believe that's because as we fly through the air it's still a active hitbox

[ebon shell]

ya idek

[lavish carbon]

I mean we're still out here murdering soooo yea

Gentleman time to Unga bunga

👏👏

[minor yew]

if yu were actually spamming dynamite

you deserve these nerfs

but they didnt touch NOTHING

[lavish carbon]

I barley use Dynamite

[minor yew]

they couldve gave us compensation for the nerf such as UP AIR

[lavish carbon]

I only use it going in with IAD bite or Dair to stop them from pushing buttons afterwards

[next palm]

stripe nerfs were not bad, we so won

[lavish carbon]

I do feel bad for @sonic parcel when he sees the notes

Bro must be very disappointed

[minor yew]

facts

dude ask for all the combo routes for jab 2x to be removed

like he wanted to see this character FALL

[sweet turret]

We still got gun shenanigans and combos so yay, honestly not surprised about the dynamite changes, hitbox was nuts on that

[lavish carbon]

I mean not "fall" but toned down

[visual narwhal]

They nerfed nothing of stripe lol

He's probably top 4 this patch

[lavish carbon]

We'll have to wait and see how he performs

[frosty cave]

slap on the wrist

[minor yew]

thats all we need

[lavish carbon]

[minor yew]

we didnt need a big nerf

or a medium nerf

[sonic parcel]

This game is so stupid

They don’t know how to nerf

This wasn’t even a nerf

They don’t know how to think for themselves like normal humans

[sonic parcel]

But tbh I’m not gonna talk about it too much, we are in a game where Jason got more buffs than beetlejuice one of the worst characters

[visual narwhal]

I gotta agree they literally didn't touch anything important about dynamite, only gun, gun change but that's all

[sonic parcel]

These mfs really want stripe mains to eat good

These mains have been eating steak and lobster since s1

[visual narwhal]

Like I just want them to nerf dynamite cuz I want to dodge the first and I don't want to worry about him getting one on the pocket with 4 seconds of cooldown, but yeah, he's going to be crazy on 1's rn

[frosty cave]

beetlejuice isn’t bad at all

[short dew]

Don't know what you're replying to but totally agree... I thought he was good before, now he's a little better... I think he's really good in 2s, at least waay better than the player count would suggest

[shell plume]

Dynamite gettjing touch

Ngl it wasnt that bad

Not even surprised it got touched same with gun

[lavish carbon]

Still got the gun glitch where it doesn't fire all bullets lol

[sonic parcel]

He isn’t that bad he is balanced

But balanced in this game isn’t good

When everyone is high tier

With the uptilt buff he’s max solid B

[lavish carbon]

Very solid B 👌

Well the stream did say it's a work in progress looking into each character soo...yea

[sonic parcel]

Yea I haven’t tried the uptilt buff but he should atleast kill at 135 with Uptilt

Which is nice

[lavish carbon]

I hope it all goes good for ya mid season homie

[sonic parcel]

I think other moves knockback should have also been buffed abit but i should be grateful atleast one was

[sonic parcel]

So how are them jake buffs

Y’all are eating?

[lavish carbon]

Ehh. I mean I wont know till later today. Don't know if the patch is active on steam

2nd hit of up air getting a +1 in damage

Then they "fixed" the invulnerable on Jake grounded up tilt

So it was a bug of me getting hit by my hand

That's all he got lol

Jake is probably still gonna be the "I gotta get this read right" character since bite timer still low

[sonic parcel]

NAHHHH

[lavish carbon]

Nair has been fun to use on pressure and approach

[sonic parcel]

A bug fix and +1% damage

[lavish carbon]

Yea went from 6 to a whopping 7

[sonic parcel]

Jason got a whole book

[lavish carbon]

Huge buff for Jake

Bros broken

[sonic parcel]

As if up air 2 isn’t used for killing, so useless

They just wanted to change one thing to act like they did something

[lavish carbon]

I mean now we kinda got to waste two stretches to kill opponents

Since fighting heavies with Jake is a god damn elden ring boss

[sonic parcel]

He will basically be the same

[lavish carbon]

Yea

[sonic parcel]

Jake mains staring at the screen seeing joker get a new move

Batman get new moves

Non low or mid tiers get buffed

[lavish carbon]

Still gonna play him. Banana guard has faster movement speed

+18%

Like holy

[sonic parcel]

That’s a lot ngl

I mean I respect y’all

[lavish carbon]

With the perk I believe it's 23-25%

[sonic parcel]

U guys play ur main for fun atleast

[lavish carbon]

Yea

[sonic parcel]

You ain’t a meta hopper or a broken hopper(me)

[lavish carbon]

Rank doesn't give me any reason to truly grind

Just skins

[sonic parcel]

I only play for master skins

I got master Jack so now I gotta get ppg even tho I don’t play them

[lavish carbon]

I mean maybe if they give out say 100 gleamium and and 2,500 perk/character currency for reaching masters

Then we can talk pfg

[sonic parcel]

100 aint even that much too

[lavish carbon]

Though shield maybe being tied to a perk

Depending on the strength of said shield though and what will happen If it breaks

Sounds pretty good on paper but how is it in practice?

Can Taz tornado/dog pile break my shield?

How fast can I jab outta of it?

Safe specials outta shield options?

[sonic parcel]

It should be signature perk

[lavish carbon]

True

[sonic parcel]

Multihits should break it

Like dog pile I would count as one

[lavish carbon]

Well alot of characters gave multi hits so yea..

[sonic parcel]

But I suck at balancing 😭

[lavish carbon]

Ppg, bugs, taz

I mean the game is just standing near the cliff at this point

[sonic parcel]

I wouldn’t mind a shield if it was a signature perk. Atleast people would have to risk it

Some character need certain perks to function

[lavish carbon]

Either PFG in S4 watches it fall or somehow saves it

[sonic parcel]

^

Bro I really like this game soo much

But the balancing is making people quit

[lavish carbon]

I'm playing it until A it gets some kinda resurgence life or B it dies..Just flatlines

[sonic parcel]

They ruined their image due to s1 lag, already lost a bunch of players

[sonic parcel]

I played beta until it shut* but only because me and my friend played 2s

If I played on my own I would have dropped

[sonic parcel]

I mean not died

When the game shut

[lavish carbon]

Honestly a 2-3 day maintenance for a full overhaul of game balance would be good

[sonic parcel]

^ they also need to use that experiment feature so we can test characters 3 days before added match making

PPG had a perk removed after how many hours 😭

[lavish carbon]

Though maybe cause I come from Skullgirls where the game been the same for like 8+ years before getting a huge patch update in like 2022

[sonic parcel]

Came from Brawlhalla game has also been the same 😭

[lavish carbon]

Hell Skullgirls is getting another character and is very balanced for a fighting game.

Strong community
Good characters
Gameplay is smooth

They got a IPS

Infinite Prevention System

Which stops infinite/loops

I believe this Patch will push more players away sadly

They basically brought back S2 Joker

Sidelined Batman mains

WW and the rest of the top tiers are still fine and gonna thrive

Mid/Low tiers will just not have fun past gold ranks

[sonic parcel]

Most definitely

Nubia is gonna make players quit

I know I should assume

But she looks VERY annoying to deal with

[sonic parcel]

With Brawlhalla they got crazy Di system if you hit the same move twice in a combo

Like a move that sends people up can literally go sideways

[lavish carbon]

Yea it's just feel like a rushed product at the end of the day

[shell plume]

Honestly the dynamite nerf

Isnt THAT BSD

Or the gun added cooldown in perspective

Im geuinelly surprised his other moves didnt get touched

[sonic parcel]

Because no one complains about stripe

Devs look at social media instead of looking at the game

[lavish carbon]

So true lol

[verbal adder]

🥂

[wise plover]

Is the dynamite move that good?

I've never found a use for it

[lavish carbon]

Very good with a timer

Basically a mini IG burst that gives us reticle and a free gunshot

XD that knock back

[minor yew]

they should give stripe a move for down special on cooldown

[sweet turret]

Did someone get gunned offstage?

[minor yew]

nah he wont

[sonic parcel]

^ this is the dude who put 20 characters above stripe

[minor yew]

shaggy, superman, arya, jason, joker, batman, agent smith, bugs bunny, tom and jerry, ppg, banna guard, black adam, steven, samurai jack, rick, iron giant, finn are all characters better than stripe

[sonic parcel]

PPG, Rick and Jack ain’t even good bro

Black Adam is good in 2s but if we are talking 1s he ain’t better than stripe after those nerfs

Stripe is better than iron giant rn and banana guard doesn’t come close

[minor yew]

lol

[sonic parcel]

Literally every one says the same

Ur too focus on how good they were at their peak rather than looking how there are rn.

They got nerfed

PPG got gutted infact

And Rick is literally mid tier, high mid max

[minor yew]

A character with 0 to deaths and early kill confirms is not a mid tier

[sonic parcel]

What 0 to death?

Trust me you haven’t tried Rick if you saying this and early kill confirms

[minor yew]

god of rick / wulfsite on twitter

first clip i saw, he killed someone at 46

[shell plume]

Rick is acc good now the patch acc gave bro justice 😭

Geuinelly is him

My boy might still be a high tier

[minor yew]

mf said rick mid tier

thats how ik he doesnt play this game

[shell plume]

Honestly i couldnt blame him because he hsd

The worst jab in the game in terms

Of being punished

And its bad endlag and whiff

U used it u get.

Either punished

Or couldnt do ur basic combos

And rick was 1 of those chars who did way tm effort for kills compared to lets say BG

Or batman

Or BA

Im not saying rick was low mid toer but he def was Either Mid Mid Tier Or High Mid when he got the jab nerfs or some dedicated would say he was low High tker

But now i think hes mid high tier with the buffs

[minor yew]

similar to stripe jab, it as range and speed, and you can get so much damage from one jab, but ext punishable

[shell plume]

Stripe id say has the better hitbox

Ricks jab had its range but it wa js too slow and the whiff was awful

Same with mortys jab

But stripes jab wasnt as bad as theses 2

Or hell jakes jab

[tawny valve]

THEY NERFWD STRIPE SO BAD

[shell plume]

The dyanmite nerf could of jd been worse

If his other moves got hit

[sonic parcel]

oh I haven’t seen Rick this patch but u even u agree he was pretty mid prepatch

[minor yew]

i could tell you were dynamite made if you think they nerfed stripe badly

[tawny valve]

ok

[sonic parcel]

Hes obviously lying

He’s acting like this so they won’t touch stripe again

[tawny valve]

nerfing stripe but not Arya is crazy

[sonic parcel]

Arya struggles in approaching

[tawny valve]

not rlly she can speed blitz u

[sonic parcel]

With what options 😭

The only thing broken abt Arya rn is that she can 0td you in burnout

[tawny valve]

wtv she used that burns her stamina but she ends up behind u

[sonic parcel]

I just tested the move rn

It has sooo much endlag

[vocal rampart]

Saying that T&J it's better than stripe on his current state its the wildest state ever made

[minor yew]

Downtilt is the best approach tool in the game

better than dynamite

[sonic parcel]

Have u seen that endlag?

[minor yew]

look how high he places in tourneys, hes there for a reason

[minor yew]

doesnt matter if it ALWAYS hit

[sonic parcel]

If you miss easy punish

[minor yew]

i jump OVER it and i still get hit

[sonic parcel]

😬

[sonic parcel]

You dodge instead

[minor yew]

nobody can do that

do you not see how fast it is

and the input delay in this game

[sonic parcel]

The move is literally reactable

[vocal rampart]

I'm talking about the recent patch notes, also he dont have high tournament places

Hes not played

Your saying that like T&J it's s tier, maybe he was good prepatch

[sonic parcel]

Trust me if you both were standing still and Arya does a dtilt u can see it outfold, U would only get caught if you are moving or doing something else.

[vocal rampart]

But his straight garbage right now

Also why they didn't nerfed agent smith?

[minor yew]

no

[minor yew]

he barely got touched

[vocal rampart]

He barely got touched?

He dont have combos

And kill confirms

Saying that he barely got touched its wild

Also up tilt last hit into up air or side air

[minor yew]

i havent played a tnj yet

[vocal rampart]

Its diable on high percents

[minor yew]

ive barely played this game since the patch notes

the game is ass

i couldnt care less

[vocal rampart]

So don't start talking trash about him

His lit banana guard on season 1

[minor yew]

Hes still a high tier

[sonic parcel]

Yes

[vocal rampart]

Your crazy

[minor yew]

always will be a high tier

[vocal rampart]

You lit said you didn't play an T&J

[minor yew]

yeah but i play against the best t&j

[vocal rampart]

You got an high tier skill issue then

[minor yew]

better than you

[vocal rampart]

He got killed

[minor yew]

he had a 0td

or has

idk

[vocal rampart]

The looper?

[minor yew]

prob still has

[vocal rampart]

Got removed

[minor yew]

how

[vocal rampart]

All of that got removed

[sonic parcel]

#clips message this is his tierlist

[vocal rampart]

They eliminated every optimum option from paddle

[minor yew]

im not talking about ground up attack

or up special

[vocal rampart]

He got no combos

[minor yew]

yes the early prediction tierlist from the patch notes

[vocal rampart]

I cant take this guy seriously after seeing that tier list

[minor yew]

obv most of that changed

[sonic parcel]

Cap bro. He has jab 1 - jab 2 - jab 3 -jab 4

[vocal rampart]

It seems like he didn't saw the current patch notes

[vocal rampart]

Hahahaha fr

And he's super high tier bc he kills at 150 and 180

[minor yew]

harley high tier, finn top tier

[vocal rampart]

And you can kill him at 70

[minor yew]

who has played a gizmo

[sonic parcel]

Good so would stripe be higher than the 20 characters you placed above him now?

[minor yew]

youre trash with the character and you call him bad

[vocal rampart]

I'm not trash with him

I'm top 20 T&J

Masters 2

[sonic parcel]

Ur prediction was right gizmo might not be good anymore they removed his 55+

[vocal rampart]

I don't have enough time to play consistently, i got an life besides playing

[minor yew]

jake a high tier

[sonic parcel]

Troll

[minor yew]

idc if i get cooked for that

[vocal rampart]

Ofc he is

[minor yew]

yall will see

im telling yo

[sonic parcel]

What is stripe rn?

[vocal rampart]

Bro pls start playing more

[minor yew]

u

[minor yew]

i played a jake when i was on

i WON

[vocal rampart]

I really khow you didn't play every character on the recent patch notes

[minor yew]

that one no whiff combo that does 20%+

[vocal rampart]

To start doing an tier list

[sonic parcel]

Well done you beat bottom 3

[minor yew]

and kills at 90

no whiff

and instant

[vocal rampart]

Jake its d tier

Bruh

[minor yew]

and hes a cheese character

[vocal rampart]

You can dodge after the up special

[minor yew]

yall have not played a good jake i swear

[sonic parcel]

💀 20% isn’t even good

[minor yew]

i died at 40

[sonic parcel]

Yeah that’s on you

[minor yew]

when you realize, its instant and has no whiff

[vocal rampart]

Played the top 10 before

[sonic parcel]

U got cheesed bro

[vocal rampart]

You can dodge it

[vocal rampart]

He really did

[minor yew]

no sh you can dodge everything

[sonic parcel]

I don’t care how instant a combo is. If it does 20% it’s not good

[vocal rampart]

You can dodge after the up special

[minor yew]

i actually dont know how much dmg is does exactly

i just remember its 20%+

from two moves

[vocal rampart]

Theres no way he kills you at the top of the blast zone

Doing an true combo

With up special and up air

Ain't true buddy

[minor yew]

cool but he can still do it

and tons of people still fall for it

[sonic parcel]

Your gonna get scared when you see banana guard and Jason

[minor yew]

obv

[vocal rampart]

Bro every character can do whatever they want without dodging

[minor yew]

theyre dominating

[vocal rampart]

You dont play platform fighters

[minor yew]

youre right

anyways

[vocal rampart]

And thats why your comments got no sense

[minor yew]

jason and the guard is really good right now

[minor yew]

shut up bro just stop talkign to me

[vocal rampart]

Yes that's true

@sonic parcel

[sonic parcel]

Yo

[vocal rampart]

Bro lets go to rivals 2

This game its dead

[sonic parcel]

I ain’t got a pc 😢

[minor yew]

is rivals free

[vocal rampart]

Also the balance its terrible

[sonic parcel]

I will get one tho

[vocal rampart]

They will launch it on October 23 i think

[sonic parcel]

This game isn’t that good

[sonic parcel]

On ps?

[vocal rampart]

Yea

[minor yew]

how much rivals cost

[vocal rampart]

I think it's on every console

[sonic parcel]

Especially with balancing

[sonic parcel]

Perfect

[vocal rampart]

30 bucks

Rivals 2 its what multiversus won't become

[minor yew]

whos going to spend that much money when they can save for sparking zero

smh

[vocal rampart]

And actual good platform fighter

[sonic parcel]

That’s alr

[vocal rampart]

Its super competitive

[sonic parcel]

💀

[vocal rampart]

And its like meele 2.0

[sonic parcel]

That’s gonna die trust me

[vocal rampart]

Sparking zero its so good

[minor yew]

all fighting games die

idk what youre on about

[sonic parcel]

Really?

[minor yew]

yes they all fall off

[sonic parcel]

Brawlhalla

[vocal rampart]

Yea

[vocal rampart]

Brawhalla it's an special case

[minor yew]

lost 50%+ of its peak players

[vocal rampart]

Fighting games in general die really quick

[minor yew]

but brawlhalla

is still

semi alive

[vocal rampart]

Nah bro, they always comeback

Brawhalla it's really addictive

[sonic parcel]

That doesn’t really count 😭. We can say the same about smash and multiversus

[minor yew]

exactly

[vocal rampart]

Also the balancing on brawhalla it's perfect

[sonic parcel]

^

I played the game 5 years straight before I quit

[vocal rampart]

Mvs should take notes on that

Lit mvs balance its on community yelling

They don't play his own game

Also the game speed its really bas

Bad

Considering the jab nerfs and all of the changes

[vocal rampart]

Me too lol

[sonic parcel]

Normally I hate on games that quit but I won’t say anything

[minor yew]

wish i can go on a character like jason and enjoy him like stripe and win every game

but i cant

it sucks

why would they buff jason, its so stupid

[sonic parcel]

There’s no problems with Brawlhalla other than the players

[vocal rampart]

I wish the community stop being toxic about T&J and start learning about how going against him

[sonic parcel]

I really don’t know 💀

[minor yew]

T&J high tier

always will be

[vocal rampart]

Lit for people crying every day on T&J chat they killed the character

[minor yew]

with jerry as a projectile

he will always be good

[vocal rampart]

You always will be an idiot for saying that

[minor yew]

most of the community agrees

most t&j agrees

[vocal rampart]

Jerry got an special way to one shot him with every character

[minor yew]

one of the best players in the world is a t&j main

[vocal rampart]

Ye

[minor yew]

finn can always get nerfed and still have 0tds

[vocal rampart]

But your not considering the recent patch

[minor yew]

some character needs a rework

[sonic parcel]

Not even Jerry

It’s f ing paddle

Shi so annoying

[minor yew]

yeah that active hitbox

trying to land

[vocal rampart]

Jerry can get one shot by every character with one move

[minor yew]

but he still has it

its so annoying man

[sonic parcel]

Going backwards should be a lot slower

[vocal rampart]

But anyways he has no combos or convertions after it

[sonic parcel]

I can’t even punish shi

[minor yew]

i can barely punish the paddle because theyre running away and stripe slow

[sonic parcel]

^

Free move

[vocal rampart]

It doesn't matter bro

Paddle got giga nerfed

He won't combo into anything

[sonic parcel]

If going back was like 50% slower I wouldn’t mind reverting the nerfs

[next palm]

di out against paddle and he has 0 follow ups on stripe

worst case you catch a stray foward air

[minor yew]

still annoying to get hit with though

when you cannot punish it

[next palm]

paddle????

[vocal rampart]

Its annoying but the character its dead

[next palm]

thats his most punishable move

[next palm]

nah

he already has a new loop

[minor yew]

its the fact that he can run away

with it

[vocal rampart]

Theres no new loop

[sonic parcel]

Hahaha gut tnj

[next palm]

its some racket thing

[vocal rampart]

So its not true

Racket don't combo into anything

Also racket doesn't combo in any true string

[next palm]

ill have to find it

its a sick looking combo

[vocal rampart]

Bro there's nothing

They nerfed it

They nerfed everything, paddle and jab got no convertions

You cant combo with the character

Just zond

Zone

[next palm]

downplay

[vocal rampart]

Also if you kill jerry, and it is really easy to kill him

You get rid from the zone

[vocal rampart]

Its not downplay

He recently got nerfed

[next palm]

hes still really good trust

[vocal rampart]

Hes not

You can just abuse of his disadvantage and kill jerry

He got no combos

And his only option its jerry shot

[next palm]

yes he does?

[vocal rampart]

What is it then?

There you go

That's why you need to shut up

Hes d tier

[next palm]

because i have 0 on hand?

[vocal rampart]

He got the banana guard treatment

[next palm]

BG is also high tier????

bro im being trolled

[vocal rampart]

So you self responded your question

[vocal rampart]

I'm talking about banana guard treatment on season 1

It seems like you just entered the game

[next palm]

who do you even play?

[vocal rampart]

T&J

Masters 2

[next palm]

nvm you got it

[vocal rampart]

Ik my character better than you

[next palm]

all tnj's downplay

[vocal rampart]

Its not downplay

You can just enter the game

And check it

[sonic parcel]

???

[next palm]

i know how to play tnj

[vocal rampart]

He lit got nothing demo

[vocal rampart]

I dont think so

[next palm]

lol

[sonic parcel]

Tbh out of all characters

[next palm]

i play fox and hwaz almost every day too i also know the mu

[sonic parcel]

I never knew how to play Tom and Jerry since s1

[next palm]

he is not D tier

[vocal rampart]

Ok

Hes not good on anything my bro

He just have nothing

No combos

Just camp

That's all

[sonic parcel]

I don’t know how yall control the paddle and shi so he’s the only character I haven’t bought except Nubia

[vocal rampart]

Maybe an super passive playstyle

[vocal rampart]

To use paddle you need to read di

If you stay on place

You will get out of it

[next palm]

when i get off work ill hop on do a tnj combo and post

[vocal rampart]

Ik all the combos

I could tell you

Everything

Down air side air at low mid high percents

Down air up air at high percents

Paddle into side air

Mid percent

Paddle into up air mid percent

[next palm]

nah you need to think bigger im not talking strings

[vocal rampart]

Jab 3 into d tilt low percent

[next palm]

also you just listed like 7 combos after saying he has 0

[vocal rampart]

I think the racket 0td its still on the game, but you need to hit an racket mid match

And thats just not an option

[vocal rampart]

I'm refering to the term 0 bc im just saying he got almost no combos

Its just an exaggeration

But he got really basic strings

Nothing crazy

[next palm]

thats good

wym?????

[vocal rampart]

Racket mid match its impossible to hit, really easy to dodge and punish

Also got no momentum on air

I gtg

Bye

[thorny crater]

bro is number one tj downplayer its crazy 😔

[next palm]

😭

[thorny crater]

bro was saying tj was bottom tier right above guys like velma and bg before he got nerfed i respect the dedication on the downplaying though :salute:

[next palm]

@vocal rampart put some TNJ stuff in combos for ya

[vocal rampart]

Ok

[vocal rampart]

I lit said you couldn't do that mid match

When we were talking I lit tell you that an racket its predictable, easy to punish and react

You cant approach with racket

[next palm]

see i thought you were gonna say that so i went online with him too and hit combos

[vocal rampart]

Bc you aren't at masters with T&J

Maybe thats the problem

Idk

Its on you

[thorny crater]

😩

[sonic parcel]

I haven’t seen bro in a while

[thorny crater]

the downplaying was too much it revived me

[next palm]

the downplay was diabolical

[tawny valve]

did they touch stripes jab it feels like I can't do the dair combo anymore

[next palm]

They shadow nerfed a ton of his hitboxes

[sonic parcel]

🧢

[dry hemlock]

Tony's final nerf:

Removed Stripe

[hard sigil]

Sup chat

[next palm]

Get out!

[hard sigil]

Who is this bruh?

[idle gale]

I started using Stripe after they killed Joker and... Stripe's fun! Kinda simple in some way, but hella fun!

[verbal adder]

Definitely fun!!

[next palm]

very simple but also super complex at higher levels, hope you enjoy the gremlen boi

[exotic slate]

Should I get this guy? Been kinda curious about playing him since I’ve heard he’s a strong rush down combo character

Also his Dia de los muertos skin is pretty fire

[sweet turret]

He's very fun. Easy to pick up but he's got a decently high skill cap as well with his gun

[sonic parcel]

No dont

[idle gale]

It's kinda frustrating to try and go 1 vs 1 ranked cuz I really don't know how to do stuff with him :/

[turbid remnant]

You will learn young one

[cinder kettle]

mash into jab jab up tilt dair

or iad nair on cooldown dash attack

tnt for everythang else

cuz tnt solos

[next palm]

tnt kinda mid

[cinder kettle]

tnt is stripes most versatile move

right above gun

[sweet turret]

Hitbox is still insane after the nerfs, damage is definitely not as good as before but it's an easy neutral and surprise approach option

Plus if it hits you target and then you can do gun things

[unkempt bison]

Actually very cool

[unique hull]

Is stripe any good with. Gizmo in 2s?

[sweet turret]

Don't play 2s so idk. I'm thinking it isn't too great since neither character has a load of kill power but you can rack on damage quite easily

[unique hull]

In. A gizmo player and my friend plays stripe and we just constantly struggle with kill power so I think that is the issue,

[shell plume]

There are some good positvites with the duo but alot of negatives

Also both are incredibly light

And the main draw back is the kill power

[unique hull]

Yeah that makes sense, I just like team gremlins and am tryna find a way to make the team work

[exotic slate]

Welp, I unlocked stripe

What’s his general game plan and what are his best perks?

[short dew]

Scratch the crap outta them! Seriously though his down and side air are good approach tools, and his jab string into uptilt (reverse the last hit usually) will kill a lot, and if it doesn’t, finish them off the top with the gun… the gun should always be used to edge out someone that’s close to the blast zone that you didn’t quite kill with your last hit… saw blade and dynamite are good… you can hit the sawblade to make it bounce around and I prefer putting it on platforms or allies. His bite when his sawblade is on cooldown is really good. Everything else is also good potentially but a little more situational… I’m not sure on perks anymore I haven’t played him actively in a minute

[turbid remnant]

Perks are always flammable or snowball, last stand, pugilist

[short dew]

is last stand still a thing or was it a different perk that got removed?

[turbid remnant]

Actually your right it did get removed. So probably do the broken wings one or whatever in that case

[exotic slate]

Is 5% or TNT signature perk more useful

[cinder kettle]

tnt

[short dew]

Personally I like 5% but most people seem to prefer dynamite

[idle gale]

taking notes, taking notes...

[manic hull]

Dynamite, flammable, speed force, pugilist

[idle gale]

Don't forget CACA!

[minor yew]

k

[idle gale]

... sorry?

[hard sigil]

No

No

And No

[manic hull]

lol

[minor crypt]

Had no idea there was so much hitsun on back turn gunshot

[sweet turret]

Yeah it's crazy. Reverse gun combos into nearly anything depending on your positioning

[minor crypt]

And it pulls them because the game thinks you're shooting them from the other side 😭

[sweet turret]

Don't question the physics lol

[minor crypt]

Definitely been labbin the different interactions. It's really neat

[verbal adder]

How are the fellow stripe mains doing in raked this season 💚

[sweet turret]

Hit master with the gremlin and then stopped. Ranked is sweaty as hell but I think stripe does pretty well for himself

[manic hull]

I'll probably just hit platinum before the season's over

In 1s

[unique hull]

I hope the buff gizmo so he can be as good as stripe

[edgy condor]

we live another patch

[sweet turret]

Saw comes out 1 frame slower and that was basically it lol

Head hurtbox was increased a bit but that shouldn't be a huge deal hopefully

[next palm]

so far seems like straight buffs

hitbox changes dont really affect us since odds are we were using the correct move in the correct situation anyways

speed increase could be huge for us

[hard sigil]

Stripe should’ve been nerfed

[lavish carbon]

Guess the devs don't see him as a threat

[sweet turret]

When we have characters like banana and PPG who can TOD people that's not surprising in the slightest lol

[sonic parcel]

BROO

Nubia got nerfed but stripe noooo

Stripe mains have never suffered

Never lived in the trenches

[foggy hollow]

you dirty rats slip by again

[verbal adder]

💚 we did

[minor yew]

stripe shouldve been buffed

[sweet turret]

Why did Nubia even get nerfed lol

[minor yew]

stripe air up attack needs a buff

[hard sigil]

Not really

[sonic parcel]

I don’t know

It’s so much bs

They gave Nubia more whiff endlag on nair….

She has one of the most endlag already 🤦‍♂️

Why not give it to wonderwoman instead

[sweet turret]

Why they gave Nubia more whiff but leave shaggys frame data untouched is absolutely beyond me

[minor yew]

yes really, hitbox small

anyone else struggling to kill with stripe?

[scenic sapphire]

His gun doesn't shoot a hitbox infront of him anymore if he's not locked onto anyone. It's not mentioned in the patch notes.

This was useful in 2's last season to get some last second saves on a team mate who was being combo'd but this is gone now 😦

[tawny valve]

why do they keep nerfing stripe💔

[hard sigil]

Bro stripe is still good

[hard sigil]

Nah

If you wanna scrim sometime just let me know @minor yew

[unique hull]

mhm

[blissful pawn]

Cuz he needs it

[lavish carbon]

#76 with Stripes XD

Where are the Stripe mains?

[worthy tendon]

stripe got neutered so hard, all his good moves feel really inconsistent rn

[shadow snow]

Is it just me being bad or did the changes kill up tilt > full hop dair?

[hard sigil]

Stripe is still good

[sharp musk]

Yo has anyone tried the shocked perk with stripe?

Now that it’s been buffed to trigger after stringing 4 unique moves. It might be useful on stripe?

[tawny valve]

your coping stop coping😣

[scenic sapphire]

The only projectile it works for is buzzsaw, not the gun. And he also loses his charge when using dynamite, but the dynamite won't actually apply shocked with the explosion or Stripes body.

[sharp musk]

Oh damn that’s lame! Appreciate the testing you did!

I was hella imagining the gun putting on the shocked lol.

[pine fjord]

:3

#combos message

[sharp musk]

That was great! Never tried attacking someone after gun shots

[hard sigil]

For the people saying stripe is bad
#combos

[sharp musk]

Yoooooo!

[tawny valve]

interesting

they gonna nerf his gun next

[minor yew]

shouldve got buffed this patch

[hard sigil]

Nah, stripe is in a fine spot

[next palm]

nah hes bottom 3

[hard sigil]

You retired

[next palm]

🤥

[hard sigil]

Opinion invalid

[next palm]

i played yesterday

and smoked fox lol

[verbal adder]

No skin this event 😔 Maybe next one 🤞🏻

[hard sigil]

Thought you retired unc

[tawny valve]

real

happy Thanksgiving yall

[sharp musk]

Happy Thanksgiving to you aswell

[next palm]

i might again, stripe seems really bad this meta

[hard sigil]

Bro😭😭 he’s not

[next palm]

you might need to start streaming cause i aint with all these batmen, harleys, IGs, and smiths

[hard sigil]

The only ones I have trouble is Harley, Jason and smith. Haven’t played in 2 weeks so things might’ve changed

Oh and beetlejuice