Rick Sanchez

[dark jetty]

I dont see it as a hard mu

Frankly a char like taz is a bad mu

U pratically lose ur projectiles if he eats them and he bodies u at close to mid range

And ofc dogpile does dogpile things and nado well its nado

And u die very early to his grounded uptilt

[celest wren]

We jsut need a buff to rick himself

[dark jetty]

I want it to where u can js activate it urself

Like if u hold down special after u summon it it automatically activates

But if u dont it js moves on it own as usual

Would be cool for combo setups

[celest wren]

I agree

[supple crest]

It's only good if the opponent is at like 100 and you're transmorphed with the stickler meeseeks perk and they're already in hit stun when being hit by it

Really really specific

It's sometimes handy in niche scenarios like when reflecting projectiles back

Yeah fr

I've seen like Marvin survive at 140 from it

It's crazy

[dark jetty]

It fr would give bro mad creativity

Like i love ricks kit cause of hos the combos are fun and the creativity

But the devs fr limit it

Idk how they fumble with a char that was so fun to play and u could do all this cool tech with

To where hes a former shell of a man

[supple crest]

The devs say die and go to hell

To Rick and anyone who plays him

[dark jetty]

I still enjoy him

[supple crest]

They just really hate him man idk why

[dark jetty]

Did get him to diamond after all

But the nerfs are js tm

Idk why he got hit so hard for his jab

Yet jokers jab wasnt even that touched

Like the jab 1 nerf is probably 1 of the worst nerfs a char has ever gotten

[supple crest]

Oh waiter, more Rick nerfs please!

[white stag]

He's already dead.

[hazy prairie]

rick is NOT canonically accurate

[celest wren]

Yes I would love a tall glass of Rick nerfs and big plate of Rick nerfs with Rick nerfs sprinkled on top with more Rick nerfs on the side

[celest wren]

Yah idk how those fake ricks try and convince everyone that he’s still good

But if I checked their win percentage it’s like 20 %

[silent veldt]

gotta iad

[celest wren]

Ewww Rick feels so gross

Jsut played the game after 3 weeks

Idk why they felt sair needed a nerf I can name 10 better sairs in the game lol

Idk how yall be trying hype up Rick

[indigo otter]

You mean iad again after iad sair?

[silent veldt]

oh nah sorry I misread what you said

you have to be big to hit the jab if im not mistaken

[haughty shale]

why does rick prime not have seal team rick's rifle animaton

he just holds the entire rifle with one arm like the blaster

[white stag]

Uhh... oversight by the devs?

[haughty shale]

rick prime looks like it took more work than evil morty yet its only a rare skin

kinda disappointing

[hazy prairie]

if they added a cool animation it could’ve been legendary

but it looks so lazy

his hair looks way too slicked back

and they just used the seal team rick animation as his

[haughty shale]

same rifle model as well

[hazy prairie]

i don’t play rick but if they gave him a nair would that be good?

his nair is just the same gun shooting

[silent veldt]

No no you have no idea how invaluable aerial laser is

[hazy prairie]

oh okay

[silent veldt]

He just needs a better combo starter honestly

His combos be hitting but you just can't get them started

It's like you have ingredients to the sauce the sauce just hasn't reduced yet

[hazy prairie]

and his jab was the combo starter

hmm

[haughty shale]

didnt they buff his jab again

is it any better now

[indigo otter]

the buff was that it now charges 1 frame faster... that's it

[haughty shale]

o

[signal barn]

why is my portal gun always broken

i use it, a small portal appears (not the big one)

and then I cant go to it

cant even use the skis too

i died 10 times atleast from trying to recover with portal

im jus playin rick if he never invented portal travel

[white stag]

Maybe try not using it while you're up against a wall?

That's where it usually happens.

The wall just destroys projectiles.

[signal barn]

how is the portal a projectile

[white stag]

Anything that is not immediately tied to the player model is legally considered a projectile.

It doesn't need to have a hitbox.

[signal barn]

its definitely a bug

it works fine when I don't spam the button

and im on the wall

[indigo otter]

PPGs aren't, weirdly

side special

[raw drift]

do girls take damage for getting hit went partnered out

they probably should if not

[hazy prairie]

no

it disjoints and isn’t even a projectile

[raw drift]

criminal

[raw drift]

i think the most annoying thing about the Rick jab changes is that Ricks still depend on jab because there is nothing to supplement it.

maybe if they actually made jab fartbomb true this could at least be something

just sucks. they just keep making some characters plainly worse off while making others outright better

just want to have fun and win some with characters i like

[celest wren]

😭🙏🏾

[raw drift]

The one thing they could do is bump the hitstun of jab 1 to make it work

[celest wren]

Yah I was tryna explain to the dumb Rick mains that it doesn’t matter how good u make his combo routes

If u can’t actually start the combos than it’s useless

Than PFG decides that hey let’s nerf sair bc alr gutted ur best approach tool lets just nerf ur second best as well

And there’s character like Wonder Woman who exist and have always been good since launch

[dark jetty]

Her lasso cooldown being removed is stupid

They fr js lasso u into jab combos

And finish off with sair

Or uptilt

[celest wren]

Yah they nerfed it to where it was fine than jsut buffed like she wasn’t alr a strong character

Lasso is just a watered than portal combo u can jsut do that into a kill confirm and with little risk

But let Rick be dependent on jab and not be more than A list A tier character and that’s a problem

[supple crest]

rick is so bad

cant play him anymore

renouncing my rickship til he is fixed

[dark jetty]

Ill still play bro

But this season im js gonna focus on stripe

Get him to diamond or masters

For both and 2s possibly

Hes not really worth it rn

Till he gets fixed

[celest wren]

Yah I played him and In 1s he kinda sucks

[dark jetty]

Nah hes js bad in 1s in general ngl

I cant even defend him in that enviroment

I geuinelly think hes bottom 5-7 in 1s

Struggles immensly in 1s

Idek if hes in the top 3 worst mage in 1s

[lofty rampart]

Hey yall, was a former nick main, how is he doing? Any new combos or tech I should know?

I havent fought a new this season but still love the character.

[celest wren]

Yah I try to not over do it but he’s def bottom 10 no doubt in 1s

[dark jetty]

Ngl istg

He somhow feels slower

I havent played the gane since last sunday but when i got on today

[celest wren]

If ur tryna win don’t play him if ur a casual he’s fun

[dark jetty]

He felt js clunky

[celest wren]

I was finna say the same thing

[dark jetty]

Like his jumping his air speed movement js feels slow

[celest wren]

He feels sluggish

[dark jetty]

Thats exactly what he feels like

[lofty rampart]

I felt like I used to do pretty good with him, not looking good for singles currently?

[dark jetty]

I tried to play a few games with him in 1s yk

To js pratice

And bro i felt so god dammm slow

I thought i was lagging 😭

Thats how sluggish he feels

Hell i got on a bit of morty

And he felt good

Geuinelly might pick up morty as a mage pick instead of rick rn well atleast ill play rick still but def morty more

[celest wren]

I was thinking the same

It feels like everyone is playing a different game than u are as rick

Like not being able to punish Marvin with ur jab is crazy

Like i genuinely don’t understand where their going with Rick

He’s still jab dependent

The only difference now is that his jab is worse

[dark jetty]

Im assuming they

Tried to make it to where

He wasnt entirely jab dependent

But also make his specials and projectiles better so it be a even spread

It was mostly them touching his meeseeks

And portal bugs

And up special

Fr abt to go onto the morty train and js hope

He does not get nerfed

Nor rick again despite him literally being dog but not bottom of the barrel material

[celest wren]

At this point jsut pick up somebody else

The disrespect of 1 added frame to the charge of jab is od

At this point their rubbing it in our face

[supple crest]

Like every other game, if not every game, I have this awesome bug that doesn't let me portal or side special

The way it triggers is I'll place down the big portal, and then I just can't portal to it

I'll spam the portal and it'll play the animation but I won't teleport

And if I try to side special it just does the portal gun animation but still won't teleport

So I just can't use my portal gun or side special for like idk until the cool down ends

[celest wren]

That’s not a bug bro that’s how Rick is supposed to be👍🏾

I love when that happens to me

[supple crest]

Now thats a Rick moment!!!

[supple crest]

couldnt kill ppg until 180

[signal barn]

how

so

[celest wren]

Bc being bugged and Rick sucking is how off designed Rick

[signal barn]

are you being fr

like

rick has bugs bc he's rick

[hazy prairie]

are y’all forced to just gun spam?

playing like a morty?

i’m just asking

get a job

he used to be a close ranged fighter

now all I see is gun spam

jesus christ you’re difficult

and single from the looks of it

touched a nerve there

[hazy prairie]

nowhere did i complain but okay

god y’all switch up fast once someone gets a buff

[indigo otter]

they ruined Rick's combo game, that's why Ricks are playing campy now

[hazy prairie]

it’s cause the dude was bothering me earlier

im pressed for telling him he’s single 😔

[limber flame]

yes we play the character for gun spam only

[celest wren]

Yah we’re quite literally forced to play like that

[indigo otter]

nobody likes relying on that gun... everyone who played Rick was because of the combos, but now Rick is reduced to camping

[hazy prairie]

i don’t know where you got that part from I was asking if they had to play like morty’s

[dark jetty]

Dude is it me

Or did fart bomb get sped up sm

Was testing it out in ranked and the bomb was literally coming out so fast

Ig that might of been the buff they gave it

I like it alot

[dark jetty]

Ironically i js havent been using gun unlike other ricks ive fr js been abusing fart bomb being faster and up attack and up special

[silent veldt]

yes

but they also increased the whiff

so you gotta be sure it's gonna hit

[dark jetty]

Ah i see makes sense

I dont like how they increased the whiff

But a faster fart bomb would be a better option

Then it being slow and pratically useless

Still does not make rick better considering the jab nerfs but hey in the righr direction ig

Same with the golf meeseeks changes

[celest wren]

Nah it’s all a diversion

They give useless buffs so that the beta ricks can be like lookin what i can do in the lab

And lose against everyone they play

[dark jetty]

1 frame quicker on the jab charge speed

Is a cruel joke ngl

They dud

He js feels clunky as hell

[celest wren]

Yah

[dark jetty]

Idk if he got slower or sum

When i jump

[celest wren]

All of his attacks are high risk low reward

[dark jetty]

He js feels off

I dont even wanna be a lazer camper but his jab fr js limits my options

[celest wren]

Why make fart bomb faster than make it easier to punish

[dark jetty]

Im seeing alot of lazer spammers now

[dark jetty]

It isnt even like worth all the time

The best combo i can do is fart bomb sair

Or fart bomb up tilt

Or fart bomb up attack fly meeseeks up special

The reward is mid

And the setup isnt that good either

Im not sure if those are all true but thats what ive been able to acc hit reliaebly in most games maybe cause yk new season so people arent tg or sum but

He fr js does not feel the same he fr feels worse every patch they touch him despite the "buffs" he recieves

Hes literally jake 3.0

[celest wren]

He sucks now

I don’t even get on mvs no more

All his moves are high risk low reward except for his specials

And all of those have cooldowns

[dark jetty]

Honestly if some moves had less cooldowns it js be better

[celest wren]

Yah but pfg would never

They would probably buff wonder woman or something

[dark jetty]

Already strugglin in the mu as rick already

Now i gotta fight ww

With her lasso back

Which is stupid

Honestly if he got less of a cooldown on moves that matter

It be a good step

Get jab fixed boom

[celest wren]

A lot of mu u jsut lose as Rick

If ur opponent realizes how bad jab is they’ll jsut beat u

[celest wren]

Holy what did they do to Batman

[indigo otter]

Batman is crazy this patch, but I think Agent Smith is flying under the radar

that mf is just so strong

everything connects

[dark jetty]

He didnt need to get buffed

Smith is annoying as hell

Vs rick ngl

I dont think its a bad mu as bats or ww

But hes defintely more at a advantage

Stupid dmg combos

And kills incredibly early

[indigo otter]

I'm sure they will now

no way Smith is any less than S-Tier this patch

[hollow oxide]

can someone teach me rick plz

[celest wren]

Go to the character select and choose a different character

[indigo otter]

I don't think it's worth learning Rick right now... most characters are just better

[forest geyser]

Tbh fartbomb is only good for edge guard 😭

[celest wren]

Yah idk why they buffed but than the made it worse by making it easy to whiff punish like it wasnt alr bad before

They only buff stuff that are practically useless to Rick

[dark jetty]

Could of been a good option if the whiff punish wasnt there

Tbh

Its like the weakest move in his kit

Not much use

U buff the move and then you make him ntg

[stoic kayak]

Wsp rick mains

Yo why nair into side air its allowed

I was doing an game on ranked with the top 1 rick

I almost winned

Then he did nair into side air

😕

That's so unfair

[dark jetty]

😭😭😭😭

[stoic kayak]

😕

[dark jetty]

Rick got nothing bro

Im really sorry to tell you

[stoic kayak]

He got everythinf

Everything

Your not understanding that i was fighting the top 1 rick

He got an robbery that I didn't khow about it

He was doing some weird stuff to one shot jerry

He khows an new rick tech

And even an 0td

Like an 2 hits robbery

I almost winned anyway

He lit just did that robbery to me

And i lost bc its the first time i see it

[indigo otter]

k

[celest wren]

It’s a skill issue bro who do u even main?

Never mind u play t and j

Ur scum how u lose and u play T&j?😂

[stoic kayak]

Bro T&J its not top 1 at the game

He ain't that good of you play against grandmasters thar actually khows how to play against him

[stoic kayak]

I lit almost winned the set and your telling me that I have skill issue

I was at the last stock

I was winning on percentage

Then he did an strange stuff and one shot me

With just iad n special then sair

[celest wren]

Wym he one shot

[stoic kayak]

Idk he did smth new with rick

I didnt saw anyone do it

[untold flame]

u just got read bro, its not op or new learn the matchup

[celest wren]

Skill issue

[stoic kayak]

Idk i dont play against eick

It was the first time i faced him

And got matmacked with the top 1

Lol

[untold flame]

so then how are you calling it op 😭

[stoic kayak]

Almost win tho so I'm ok with it

[stoic kayak]

I though it was undodgeable

[untold flame]

well its not

[stoic kayak]

Bc once the n special got me i couldnt dodge the sair

Maybe it's smth true on did

Di

And thats why i got one shot

[untold flame]

most likely

[stoic kayak]

Yea

Tbh

I don't like to play that often with grandmasters meta enjoyers

Its super stressful to fight those grandmasters top tiers enjoyers

[indigo otter]

Rick is far from meta tho... He's B tier tops

[stoic kayak]

Playing passive

[stoic kayak]

I dont think he's c tier

[untold flame]

he isnt

[stoic kayak]

He got really cool tech

[untold flame]

these guys just cry about rick all the time

[stoic kayak]

Mid a

[stoic kayak]

I dont what

[untold flame]

i wouldnt say hes a anymore either though

[untold flame]

no the other guys

[stoic kayak]

I was just concerned about what happend against the top 1 rick

[indigo otter]

dude, you just fought your first Rick and you think you know enough to rate him?

[stoic kayak]

Mid A or high a

[untold flame]

definitely not

[stoic kayak]

He was the first and the best of all

Lit the top 1

He got insane tech

He even got an way to insta kill jerry

Idk how he did it

[untold flame]

rick has good tech the problem is that he doesnt fit well in this meta

[indigo otter]

any top1 would be rough to face... even Jake, which is the bottom of the tier list

[stoic kayak]

Maybe i need to check my records

[indigo otter]

you can't compare the top 1 to average players

[stoic kayak]

Ok that's true

[untold flame]

if a move does 10 damage it instakills jerry

[stoic kayak]

Damm i was kinda disappointed

He was going to die

And then he one shot me super quicky

[indigo otter]

probably big rick

[stoic kayak]

It waesnt

Idk how this works bc i couldnt dodge it

I dont main rick but

Iad neutral special then side air its true?

He did it multiple times and i couldn't dodge

And it didn't matter if i di

Bc he would get me anyway

[untold flame]

I think it has a gap depending on weight I can’t remember

[stoic kayak]

Ok

[celest wren]

Bro he’s not even that good he just plays a lot lol I was rhe number one rick for legit all of season 1 till I stopped playing Rick is not a tier at all

[stoic kayak]

Idk man

I just got robbed with the n special sair

He lit just spammed that

And i almost win

[celest wren]

Bro u play t and j why are u complaining

[stoic kayak]

Bro T&J its not even top 1 or smth

Why your complaining?

His fair

[celest wren]

Bro u have the best projectile in the game lol

His is that fair

[celest wren]

Bros playing a different game

[stoic kayak]

If you lose jerry

Your lit in the worst disadvantage at the game

So you cant complain

Idk why jerry can go through every projectile that makes nonsense

But yeah his pretty balanced

Considering that his like the 2nd lightest character in the game

And got an horrible disadvantage state

Hes only good moves are, down air and jerry shot

And thats all

Also what tier it's rick right now?

[indigo otter]

Rick currently has 46.9% winrate and 1.7% pickrate

according to Tracker, he's bottom 6

in 1s

I heard he does better in 2s

[celest wren]

He has a move that can’t be traded with how is that balanced

[stoic kayak]

Bro jerry shot its easy to punish

Ok listen to me

[celest wren]

No it’s not

[stoic kayak]

In the moment you shot jerry into your opponent

You can dodge it right?

So if you dodge the jerry

Then go fully rush down the tom

You got an winning situation there

Hes in disadvantage for throwing jerry

And he got no tools to take him back

That's the usual T&J playstyle, spam neutral special

They are vulnerable in the sec you dodge jerry and rush tom

And if they camp and zone with projectiles

[celest wren]

No u can’t

[stoic kayak]

Well that would be character dependent tbh

[stoic kayak]

Ofc you can bro

[celest wren]

Stop the cap

[stoic kayak]

Bro thats lit the way to counter him

That's what grandmasters players do to me

And it works

Bc that's how you punish him

Trying to instantly kill jerry won't work bc he will spam corks

Tom its easier bc his in disadvantage and he dont have tools to deal with someone rushing

If he dont use dynamite, or react and dodge it

But you can predict all of those and still counter him

So you actually can

You just got to predict

[celest wren]

Bro grandmaster beat bc u suck lo

[stoic kayak]

I dont suck

Lit I almost beat the grandmaster

Stfu

We were at the last stock and i was winning on percentage

[celest wren]

Oh yah that’s fair make a character where the only way u can beat them is predictions

[stoic kayak]

The reason why he won, ifs bc he used an true 0td combo on T&J weight

[stoic kayak]

Well i mean

[celest wren]

No he didn’t bro u just suck

[stoic kayak]

Theres other characters that you got to predict to counter

[stoic kayak]

Bro i really need to send you the record

[celest wren]

Bro Tom and j counters Rick lol

[stoic kayak]

You trash talk way to much

[stoic kayak]

Ik

[celest wren]

Skill issue

[stoic kayak]

I was lit going to win

And he did an true 0td

[celest wren]

Ik so how did u owe

[stoic kayak]

On my weight

He was on 110

And I was at 30

[celest wren]

I didn’t know ur first name started with an L

[stoic kayak]

He just n special then sair

And i couldn't di or dodge

When you iad n specisl

[celest wren]

Yah u suck

[stoic kayak]

So I suck now uh

[celest wren]

That’s not even true lol

[stoic kayak]

I really want you to get hit by that

[stoic kayak]

Bro

I couldn't dodge or di

[celest wren]

U can di

[stoic kayak]

I was mashing

[stoic kayak]

I di

But it didn't matter

[celest wren]

U probably di the wrong way

[stoic kayak]

I just said i di everytime

[stoic kayak]

As I said

It was my first match against an rick player

And it was the top 1

[celest wren]

Just got practice lol

[stoic kayak]

I didnt khow you could do that stuff

[celest wren]

U suck

U literally can out zone Rick

Easy

[stoic kayak]

Idk how to practice smth that i didnt see in my life

[stoic kayak]

Ik

I was doing that

But the iad n special its way to fast

[celest wren]

Bro just hold the L bruh

[stoic kayak]

That's why I lit was going to win

[indigo otter]

the problem is that jerry is not alone... when tom shoots jerry, he usually throws rocket too, jerry corks stunning us, tom dash attacking and tenis balls

it's everything at the same time

it's fkn overwhealming

[stoic kayak]

And thats why you won't rush jerry

The point it's tom

[celest wren]

This

[stoic kayak]

Dash attack its an bad option

If you dodge then rush tom he dont have that much options

You just need to predict

[celest wren]

Not much u can do when he has 10 active hitboxes on the screen at once

[indigo otter]

and if by any chance you avoided everything and try to punish him, eat some dynamite

[stoic kayak]

Yep thats an get out of me tool

[celest wren]

His map control be crazy

And he has his mouse trap

[stoic kayak]

They dynamite it's use for disadvantage

If you see an T&J throwing the dynamite

If he thinks you will rush down after dodging the jerry

You could dash dance

And mix him

Or wait him to fail on smth

Maybe an dynamite or paddle

Or to dodge on nerves

You need to mix him to do smth after the jerry shot

And its kinda complicated

I mean its really annoying

[indigo otter]

unless he throws triple dynamite, which covers the entire fkn stage

[silent veldt]

It's not weird stuff though dash attack while big and fully charged side air while small kills jerry

down air also kills jerry from the ignite

[stoic kayak]

It was down air

Didn't khown about the new rick changes

It was my first match and almost winned the top 1 rick

I just didn't khow about everything he could do

[forest geyser]

Man it's so easy to beat a rick with t&j i think you're alone on this one bud

[stoic kayak]

Ik, I lit almost win, but I was playing against the top 1 rick

And I didnt khow about the existence of n special into side air

That's why i lost

[forest geyser]

Holy lord 😭

[stoic kayak]

It was my first time playing against rick this patch

I just tested it on lab

Its true combo somehow

With an correct spacing

I lit got one shot by that

Ngl its hard to do it

[celest wren]

Bro jsut suck bro

Play me

[stoic kayak]

Bro you and your trashtalk are making me so sick

Idc bro

I was just sharing my experience

[celest wren]

Play me bro

[stoic kayak]

It was my first time so im not an God playing

[stoic kayak]

Sry but now i cant

Can we play tomorrow?

[supple crest]

idk what happened but I got out of my funk

back to getting dubs as rick

[celest wren]

lol what rank are u

[silent veldt]

same here, 71% win rate, kinda cookin

[celest wren]

What rank are yall

[silent veldt]

Masters 5, would be higher if I wasn't playing a bunch of smith this season

[celest wren]

Nah Rick still sucks bro

Can’t punish moves that should be easily punished

Idk why they made this character so bad

[dark jetty]

Thats a bad winrate?

Might as well try to get masters

For 2s this season

[supple crest]

Last night I finally got out of silver and into gold, working my way back to plat and I'm trying to get at least diamond this time

[supple crest]

Oh yeah 100%

Rick is awful

[supple crest]

It's good when the average for Rick is like 40%

That's actually a pretty good win rate by itself, idk why you think otherwise. That means out of every 10 battles you lost 3 and won 7.

[indigo otter]

1s or 2s?

[celest wren]

I struggle against any master players or above rn

I just can’t approach without getting punished no matter how poorly positioned they are

Even if I’m patient and read them right I simply jsut can’t punish ppl and when I try I end up getting punished

I’m still confused on what move ur supposed do to use in neutral bc all of his moves are slow and have a lot of endlag

A jab in every fighting game is supposed to be a characters fastest and safest option

So why is Rick jab his slowest and his least safe option

[dark jetty]

I had a decent winrate

So im surprised 70 is low

[silent veldt]

1s obviously

[untold flame]

anyone got any airwalker routes

[celest wren]

I usually just go to character select and choose anyone else

[untold flame]

we get it bro u want to play carried characters stop yapping now 🙏

[celest wren]

I just want to play Rick and not lose bc my character is garbage 🙏🏾

[untold flame]

yap

[silent veldt]

Jab fart bomb jump portal jump airwalk jab up tilt kills at like 40 when you're big

[untold flame]

U got a clip

[silent veldt]

Ive hit it multiple times in game, just never got a clip of it. Ill turn on clipping and try and hit it

In an actual game

[untold flame]

Bet appreciate it

[dark jetty]

Honestly might try this

Might be very hard to hit

[silent veldt]

not rlly to be honest, it's surprisingly consistent

[dark jetty]

If thats the case then honestly might rock airwalker

[silent veldt]

you should anyway, if you hit a down air high up and get a ground bounce you can portal them back up, air walk jab up tilt

[supple crest]

rick is making me lose my mind

[white stag]

Well you might want to get it back if you want to learn his playstyle. Try airing out for a few hours and coming back to the game later.

[supple crest]

I know his play style I have 800 wins Ive been playing him for a while now

[celest wren]

Yah Rick honestly sucks rn

It was pretty easy to get to masters tho

[supple crest]

i was stuck in plat

[celest wren]

Bc everyone below masters are air heads

[supple crest]

I had a 70~% winrate until the last week where it shot down to 18%

didnt get past plat 1

[celest wren]

18% Jesus

Is it current win rate or ranked win rate?

[supple crest]

it was ranked win rate, my current is higher because I have like a 70% in twos cause I played a few games the other day

[supple crest]

dude youre telling me

I just kept losing to this games bs

it felt like I was fighting the game and not my opponent

[celest wren]

Holy

Ur probably rushing to much

I just got to masters and my win rate was 85 %

[supple crest]

idk

[celest wren]

We can run it when I get back home so I help u

[supple crest]

Id appreciate it homie

[celest wren]

Ight imma let u know when I get home

[untold flame]

what are you struggling with

[supple crest]

fighting people?? idk

I dont get what im doing wrong

[untold flame]

like are u having trouble with nuetral killing people etc

if u just say fighting people i cant really help

[supple crest]

I dont really know the language for fighting games that well

I dont know what to say Im bad at

I dont know what you mean by neutral killing

I just die quicker than my opponent does, whether I dodge their attacks and do more damage than them or not

I have to try so hard to get out and damage, let alone kill people

but it feels like all of my opponents can just hit me for so much longer, Im pressing dodge Im trying to time it right I dont understand why it happens so much

theres a lot of times where I will press dodge and it will say dodge on my character, but I will get hit anyway, even by stuff that doesnt hit more than once

[untold flame]

dont initiate with your jab you will get punished by majority of the cast. either whiff punish or dodge cancel into your jab

abuse polymorph and learn his best kill combos at the center and edges of the stage for killing people

also if u dodge an attack but u attack during ur dodge u lose i-frames

[supple crest]

how do you dodge cancel

[untold flame]

just dodge and attack

[supple crest]

thats so dumb

[untold flame]

its bc u are technically dodge cancelling so ur no long dodging but ur doing a move

ricks dodge cancel has some decent distance so u can use it as a read

[supple crest]

why does ppg get to instantly break meeseeks no matter what

theyre already super weak but ppg just has to do one move and it gets destroyed, doesnt matter what move they all 1 hit

[celest wren]

U on?

[supple crest]

Nah I raged and got off for the night lol, just kept losing

I wasn't having any fun and I had been playing for hours

[celest wren]

Hop on gang

[supple crest]

I'm good man

I'm ass and I keep losing so I'm taking a break

I'll hop with you another time

[limber flame]

every side special in the game breaking a laser, 2 meeseeks, fart bomb and then hiting you. worst feeling ever

[supple crest]

[white stag]

rik

[shell crescent]

ppg just does that; i mean at least you get to play the game instead of letting projectiles do it for you

[limber flame]

what does "mage" mean to you exactly

[shell crescent]

you arent wielding magic, so why dont you tell me that

[limber flame]

🤓☝️

[shell crescent]

thanks for the input on mages and their abilities

[white stag]

I just Dodge In, Jab Jab, Down Air, Side Air, Jab, Up Attack.

[dark jetty]

Rick still feels good to play well atleast for me

Only issue ive been dealing with is sair

Other den dat eh same old in the sense of the bad jab nerfs

[indigo otter]

is jab jab down air true?

[white stag]

Only if you're close enough

It's used best if you dodge toward your opponent before jab.

[indigo otter]

do you mean raw down air or with dodge+jump down air?

[white stag]

Raw Down Air

I'm not sure if they nerfed that yet tho

[bitter blade]

Ricks whiff jab is 27 frames 💀

[white stag]

Don't whiff then

It's not easy, but it's not necessarily the worst thing in the world.

[bitter blade]

It’s still a lot tho 😭

You can’t excuse this much whiff with just don’t miss it

[white stag]

Fair enough

[celest wren]

Bro has answers to life

[celest wren]

And it’s a jab lol like morty mud had the same whiff frames and it’s a way better move

[dark jetty]

Whys this funny

[supple crest]

"Don't whiff then idiot" all smug

[celest wren]

😂🙏🏾

[white stag]

That's exactly how Rick himself would respond tbh

[dark jetty]

Have u guys all dropped rick entirely

Or picked up a secondary till hes acc better

Im still on him enjoying the buffs he got despite his nerfs

[celest wren]

Nah I don’t play the Game like than any more or play 1s

[indigo otter]

I quit the game too

[dark jetty]

Im not gonna bother with him in 1s

I feel like hes bad there idk

[indigo otter]

I feel like this game has some great ideas, some of them work well, but it also feels like they're clearly amateurs in many important aspects... like it's clear lack of rules when it comes to creating characters, which leads to a lack of any type of standardization, which leads to a lot of inconsistencies and unbalance

the lack of testing is also obvious

[celest wren]

Yah it’s clear that they don’t play the game at all

I wouldn’t bother with him in 1s he stupid in 1s

[indigo otter]

they need an open test server

[celest wren]

And not even that there just flat out biased

Why is wonder woman always an s tier character every patch

Never gets nerfed

But they keep nerfing Rick

[dark jetty]

Nah they needa nerf batman

Cause what the hell are they cooking

[celest wren]

Yah i forgot about Batman

He’s a straight menace now

[supple crest]

I just haven't been playing much

When I do I still play rick

[dark jetty]

Rick already strugglin

With bats already

Abd with the changes they gave em the mu is pratically

Js worse for rick then it alreadyw as

With the new combo routes

And ofc ww having her inf lasso now

[celest wren]

Yah pfg doesn’t even care about balancing at this point

[dark jetty]

They overtune the top tiers way tm

But chars who are mid or low

Js get gutted

Or become worse

Or get buffs that dont help

They literally turned smith and batman

Into chars who are way to overbaring

[celest wren]

There not tapped into the community fr

[celest wren]

Im down with Rick

Get sparking zero trust

[hazy prairie]

DID YOU LEAVE

ARE TOU NO LONFER HERE

this is my sign

i think i have to stop playing multiversus

[supple crest]

damn

rip

[indigo otter]

according to Tracker, Rick is sitting at the very bottom with 43.2% winrate and 1.7% pickrate in 1s

[shell crescent]

honestly rick is really stong in ones and twos and is oppressive as all hell even with startup

[indigo otter]

if he was strong he wouldn't be at the very bottom

[supple crest]

^

[whole yew]

New Rick player here. Anybody else pulling their hair out? And I’m a beetlejuice main..

[indigo otter]

most everybody dropped Rick

[whole yew]

I see why.

[limber flame]

other chzracters are just too easy to learn for how good they are. Rick can be very good but the amount of work you have to do vs the opponent is insane

[whole yew]

Like I said, I’m a beetlejuice main. I’m used to working extra. It’s mainly just portal setups I’m working on getting better with, but that jab nerf is rough. Got me feeling like I’m in molasses on whiff.

[dark jetty]

Really only rocks well in 2s so

1s really isnt his enviroment

He feels way to clunky and slow

Its like if u were playing a tank with how his movement speed is

Honestly needa be changes to this char because he is not at all looking good in terms of his future

[supple crest]

Maining rick is actually the #1 leading cause in baldness in men (and women)

[supple crest]

This so much

[supple crest]

He's a beast in 2s

When a character needs the help of another to succeed, that's when you have to rework a character lmao

[whole yew]

At this point, Velma is better than Rick.

[indigo otter]

I'm bald, can confirm

[supple crest]

Damn

[shell crescent]

lmao

[indigo otter]

Let's hope they give/remove Rick another frame in something useless

[limber flame]

i m so tired of having to work 3times as hard as every other character to win

[dark jetty]

Hopefully buffs

This patch

All they gotta do is js nerf bros jab hitbox and keep his og speed 😭

[supple crest]

Real

[whole yew]

Rick got buffed good this patch guys, don’t know if you read his part of the patch notes yet but

It’s some juicy sht in there.

[supple crest]

LETS GOOOO RICK IS WINNING THIS PATCH

YES DUDE YES

[indigo otter]

oof!

I've been waiting for this patch note for a while xD

thanks for the heads-up

[whole yew]

Biggest changes to me are less lag on jab whiff, sair into portal is more consistent, can now do jab 1 into fart bomb

Still new so idk how the meeseeks changes are gunna be but I’m still learning

[ivory forum]

Bro Rick is now speeeeeeeeeeed

[fickle copper]

Ricks back

[simple brook]

They sped up rick holy cow

[indigo otter]

don't get too excited... you know PFG

let's see how it goes first

his jab still has the slowest startup

[limber flame]

The hitbox on meesseeks command and fart hand is insane

and the speed ❤️❤️

plus activating idle meesseeks FINALLY

also polymorph nerf finally

they cooking fr

[limber flame]

i dont mind having a slower jab as a mage tbh i want other ways to approach tho, speed buff will help a ton

[simple brook]

I was gonna say with how fast he can approach now jab isn't really needed unless you wanna do jab 1 up tilt

[whole yew]

I haven’t been able to lab yet but does jab 1 into fart bomb connect now?

[dark jetty]

YO W BUFFS

[dark jetty]

Good step in the right direction and him being faster is lit

Also they did meeseeks justice

[stoic kayak]

Now rick could be s tier

So do not downplay him

They killed my boy T&J

Is not fair

😢

And lit buff harley

I think il play rick

His just better

Also got some saucy mix now i think

[whole yew]

Jokers cool too, you can confirm jab into card and teeth

[limber flame]

bruh, so now with meeseeks perk because of the hand hit box golf club meesseeks is insta 17 dmg

[dark jetty]

W?

Also dude

Im so fast 😭

Not blazing fast

But im zoomin a bit

My boy got justice

[limber flame]

fr fr, and slapping pple with meeseeks commands on cooldown is funny as hell lmao

[dark jetty]

I like the polymorph changes as well

I kinda miss the extra added dmg for allies in 2s with the knockback

But the 15 tons

Being added so ur not rung out earlier

Is a great change

[limber flame]

i like the nerf tbh it was to good of a move, i much prefer they do this and give depth to the character like they just did

yeah overall they cooking hard

[dark jetty]

True

I like that fart bomb is acc

More good

And u can combo into it

U also can break armor which is so useful

I cant begin to think how many times ive been screwed by ww or supes

Due to their armor

And either im lazer spamming
Hoping for polymorph
Or running away

[dark jetty]

Hop on the train fr

[stoic kayak]

Yeah but im just really sad about what happend to T&J

It was my main since the beggining

And they lit killed him on the recent patch note

Il main rick or continue maining bugs on 2s

[dark jetty]

Ngl tom and jerry was

Tbh expected

I cant even lie

Tbh playing buggs or rick this season would be good

[stoic kayak]

Yeah

[whole yew]

He’s definitely not killed, you guys still have up air and fair out of paddle. You just can’t spam a bs tech roll loop.

[stoic kayak]

Bro the character got no combos right now

Also agent smith and stripe got the same properties and they are even better

[whole yew]

lol

Ok

[stoic kayak]

The character got horrible no kill power also

So its way harder to kill

You can di paddle last hit into up air and side air

[limber flame]

playing against supes when we had no move breaking armor + him freezing 60% of our kit lmao

[silent veldt]

Lol this character is so broken now

They did not need to buff him this much

[supple crest]

I haven't played with the new buffs yey

I gotta play today bro

Before they inevitably Nerf him again

As long as they don't gut him this time I'd be okay with that

[indigo otter]

personally I'm really annoyed to have to keep relearning the characters I play

[supple crest]

i agree

rick feels so much better

[dark jetty]

Nah rick ong

Is good rn

Im really hoping this js a 1 or done buff for season 3

Or brodie somehow gets nerfed at the end

And im going to be really heates abt ir

[silent veldt]

I get that though it feels like Rick gets really major changes every season that completely overhaul his play style

[dark jetty]

Honestly his changes id say are def top 5 in terms of the most influencal in terms of the buffs nerfs and change he gets compared to other chars

Like his playstyle

Will either get improved incredibly

Or 1 aspect gets so treated badly it ruins it

Other chars get buffed or nerfed and nun really impacts them moveset or playstyle wise

(If that didnt make sense mb)

[limber flame]

just wish club meeseeks didnt auto reflect ally projectiles it gets really anoying in 2v2s especially

prefered when it reflected only when the meesseek clubbed on its own

[silent veldt]

He's probably the best hes ever been so far since rerelease

[limber flame]

yeah 100%

in beta he was wild tho the up special spike was insane

[silent veldt]

I'd be so happy if he got it back

But he'd be a little too good

[supple crest]

The golf meeseeks changes have gotten on my nerves too

I hate when I try to set something up but my golf meeseeks just reflects my own projectile back to me

Overall tho the rick changes are great and he feels so much better

[limber flame]

i play with a morty main it s giving me headaches lol

[supple crest]

This

[supple crest]

Damn

[silent veldt]

I hit a sick setup with the self reflect laser

[supple crest]

Yeah I can see some cool setups with that, it ruins others though because the meeseeks gets consumed once it reflects the projectile

[stray tundra]

Gut Rick

[dark jetty]

Yo id fr want this

Back

😭

But ik it be to broken

And rick is great rn

So its all good

[supple crest]

bros bad

[stray tundra]

Who bad?

Rick?

Velma?

the balancing?

[supple crest]

bros bad

[limber flame]

what are you on about

[acoustic estuary]

Yo guys I see Rick doing pretty well. Probably gonna secondary him or something. So can y’all get me some general combos and kill confirms that y’all use? All I know is jab 1, fart bomb, up special is decent for killing.

[limber flame]

jab jab portal charged up special is a good KC

[limber flame]

my favorite combo rn is jab - fart - side air - portal - jump - gravity cancel - jab - fart - up special

[acoustic estuary]

What is gravity cancel?

[smoky wigeon]

I think he means air walker?

In the combos channel if you scroll up enough somebody posted two clips of Rick utilizing air walker to get zero to death on a shaggy

[white stag]

I love it when Brawlhalla terminology is used outside of Brawlhalla

[silent veldt]

Yup this is his best low percent kill confirm right now

There's currently a kill confirm that works as low as 50-70 that I'll post later that has to do with his new hand hitbox on meeseeks commands

[acoustic estuary]

Brawlhalla?

[white stag]

Yes. That's where Gravity Cancelling is from.

[acoustic estuary]

Is that another game?

[silent veldt]

Yup it's another platform fighter

[silent veldt]

Not exactly what I was going for but cool nonetheless
#combos message

[limber flame]

yeah this lol

[limber flame]

my god i'm so tired of losing matches with 400+ dmg vs bad players just because they have easy ass move than insta kills at 100

i'm top 200 rick and i have yet to win a single match in gold today ffs

[supple crest]

We all feel your pain

[supple crest]

just lost a game because of my portal gun bugging out

why is that a thing that can still happen

I was on and I portaled back up

but it just placed my portal it didnt teleport me

I tried to portal and it just played the animation and wouldnt teleport me

and it caused me to die

and this has happened across so many games I thought they would fix it by now

fix the bugs in your crappy game

christ

[smoky wigeon]

I picked up Rick about 3 days before mid season patch and I've now hit d3 I like his kit

Fun character

[acoustic estuary]

Were you beside a wall I know the wall can block the teleport

[supple crest]

Why does it do that

[acoustic estuary]

I believe the teleport mechanic or any teleport is less of an actual teleport and more of a really fast dash that puts you in the exact position. So when your on a wall and teleport back on to stage what happens is your character tries to dash but the wall collides and halts your movement. Essentially blocking your path from teleporting.

In any case I know lebrons Teleport dunk or alley oop dunk works similar to what I described

[indigo otter]

and here's another nerf

fk this game

[silent veldt]

He's so good rn tho

Actually deserved

Plus it's really minor

Sair into portal is still just as fast it only affects skiis

[limber flame]

it s minor tbh, and it s not like skis where not slow af to begin with, now it s so slow it might actually confuse the enemy dodge timing lol

[white stag]

lol

[civic cloud]

was it necessary? 😭

[silent veldt]

yeah sorta

you could cancel your whiffed sair into skiis it basically had no end lag

[jolly shale]

Remove Rick Prime's eyebags please

[upbeat pumice]

I want some tips on how to get better as Rick cuz I feel pretty confident with him already, but a lot of my moves get canceled out? Still learning MVS tbh

[whole yew]

Learn to IAD

[upbeat pumice]

Ooo I didn't know about that, ty!

[upbeat pumice]

I was wondering about this, and it's strange that it doesn't always happen to me, it's like 50/50. Sometimes it'll let me through a wall, other times it just places a portal. I even have had this happen to me when there's not even anything in front of me.

Ig it just happens when I'm attacked? I haven't been taking notes that heavily

[acoustic estuary]

I notice it happen mostly if I’m grabbing a wall and want to teleport out to other side of stage

Also I’m pretty sure it depends on the kind of wall too like if it is the basketball court back board you can probably go through that cause the game will find a way to nudge you through, but like if you want to teleport through the entire stage then there is no way the game will let you through

[upbeat pumice]

I don't think it's even that because I've tried teleporting thru the side of the floor before and the second portal will often spawn above the floor for me

Again, it's like 50/50.

[silent veldt]

anything you're particularly struggling with as Rick? I could give a hand or two

[upbeat pumice]

Primarily just my attacks being canceled out by other attacks. Idk how MVS works with that, but I'll often be delivering an attack only for me to be damaged by someone else's attack like, all the time.

Are attacks ranked on strength or something like that?

[silent veldt]

is it particularly with your jab?

your jab has low priority against other attacks

[upbeat pumice]

I primarily use the skis and they get canceled

[silent veldt]

like during the startup?

[upbeat pumice]

I never really noticed. I guess I should start paying attention to that haha.

I'm also wondering if it has to do with lag sometimes too cuz I know I play worse when there's some delay

[silent veldt]

yeah skiis is a very slow move

[silent veldt]

oh yeah the lag in this game is really weird it just cancels your moves sometimes

[upbeat pumice]

Rick is so fun tho he was the first chara I tried and I'm shocked at how much he clicked with me

[silent veldt]

you ever need tips on like matchups and stuff dont hesitate to ask

[upbeat pumice]

How do y'all deal with Samurai Jack? He's been my least fav to deal with

[silent veldt]

Oh yeah it's definitely a harder matchup, you can't really zone him out since he has so much projectile counter play

You wanna pay attention to what perks he's running, if he's running shadow step you pretty much don't wanna use projectiles at all unless he's in the air

[upbeat pumice]

I don't use projectiles at all except for Meeseeks anyways so...

I've always struggled with setups ig

[silent veldt]

Have you learnt projectile looping?

[upbeat pumice]

I've never heard of it before

[silent veldt]

It's a good way to catch your opponents off guard, let's say you send a meeseeks running toward your opponent and they dodge it, you can portal just ahead of the meeseeks, the meeseeks will run through your portal and end up where you just were, it works with laser too

at high precents you can combo it into a jetpack too for a kill if you manage to read where they'll end up after they get hit by the meeseeks

[upbeat pumice]

Ooo that's smart! I'll have to try that!

[silent veldt]

One second I'll get a clip up

[silent veldt]

https://youtu.be/5KOZbJPS1DE?t=31 I've already time stamped it

it's an older clip but still works

[upbeat pumice]

AYO???

I never rly think that far ahead wow I'll have to try that

That's badass gameplay omg

[silent veldt]

that video's full of a bunch of creative ways to use portal, I recommend you watch it till the end honestly

[limber flame]

it s for this depth of gameplay we all play rick mate welcome 😊

[upbeat pumice]

I just love flying around the stage as him. He's so much harder to knock off haha.

[slim furnace]

is there a good place/resource to learn relevant rick combos? I heard in the recent patch they changed a couple of his routes which is why

[limber flame]

i invited you on a RickVersus discord, i found some cool tricks here 👍

[silent veldt]

^^

I might honestly make a Rick guide when season 4 comes out

it doesnt feel worth making one right now

considering how radically Rick gets changed nearly every major patch

[limber flame]

fr tho we re learning a brand new character every patch lol smh

[supple crest]

Rick mains getting a new character every patch

[upbeat pumice]

I don't even notice I just play dksjhfkjdsh

But I can imagine how crazy it gets in the competitive scene...

[upbeat pumice]

Also you were right, it was cuz of startup dkjfshjsdh

[smoky wigeon]

ricks fun

played him for a few days and got masters worth learning him

[stark barn]

every patch is an alternate universe rick switching out with the old one

[limber flame]

i like to think every match we play is canon to the series since there is an infinite amount of universes

[languid thistle]

best perks for rick?

[supple crest]

5%

Rest are objectively ass

[silent veldt]

meeseks perk has a funny kill confirm at 60

[supple crest]

im aware, but thats worse than having a 5% damage and defense boost

[silent veldt]

but its funny

which is why i use hand cannon on smith too

is it good?

no

is it funny?

yes

[forest geyser]

Gimmie an invite pleaae

[limber flame]

@forest geyser done 🫡

[forest geyser]

Thank you 🙏

[upbeat pumice]

I use "Second Wind Beneath Your Wings" for more greedy kills

[silent veldt]

5%/Meeseeks perk - Snowball - Airwalk - Pugilist

Airwalker is mainly for stupid early kills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRhC3au2DS8

2 setups in there showcasing airwalk

[languid thistle]

lemme write this down

[runic bluff]

What's up gold Rickers

[runic cloak]

does anyone else feel like rick really struggles to kill, or is that just a skill issue on my part

[languid thistle]

same

[limber flame]

he does

he doesnt have any move that just kills at 100-110 ish like other characters that can even kill with jab

he does have kill confirms but some require portal or tricky approaches.

his kill strenght is really polymorph that you can use to kill very early but its risk reward.

otherwise he s got very strong edguarding, and you ll often compensate that 150kill with a 60kill after

in the end the issue isnt that he cznt kill but rather he has to work way more and take more risk than the rest od the cast that can kill you with a single move as soon as you re 100

so in the end it becomes quite balanced at very high levels of play but at casual levels you re getting cooked

[white stag]

Ah yes, the big brain character that bullies you for having a small one.

[stray pecan]

Give Rick custom voicelines when he’s fighting Morty 🗣️🔥

[vagrant widget]

He does when teamed up but not for fighting him for some reason

[upbeat pumice]

He doesn't wanna talk about it... /j

[stray pecan]

Yeah ik that’s why I was confused by it

You barley fight any Rick players tho so

[upbeat pumice]

It's so weird every time I'm matched with a Morty on my team the match always disconnects LMAO

[stray pecan]

We Morty players are a strange breed

I’ve also noticed we dodge way too damn much

[upbeat pumice]

Morty isn't a bad chara to play but I hate that they changed his class to also mage cuz now the two only R&M characters are mages ._.

[stray pecan]

But they made Marvin an assassin

Amazing game design.

[upbeat pumice]

I thought he was a mage now?

[stray pecan]

Is he?

I haven’t looked

[upbeat pumice]

It says assassin on the website but in-game it says mage

[stray pecan]

Ofc it does..

[silent veldt]

He has at least one line

He goes like "Grandpa's sorry Morty"

[white stag]

They both should have more

I don't understand Evil Morty's lines against Rick either. Why refer to him specifically as C-137 when Multiverse Theory is one of the biggest parts of Rick and Morty?

[upbeat pumice]

Because ✨ the brand ✨ or something idk

[stray pecan]

I’ve heard it before when dying to him but that seems like the only one

[stray pecan]

Evil Morty’s lines are annoying

[white stag]

They should have referred to Dan Harmon before writing his lines.

[stray pecan]

Also you really think Rick would be the type of person to say “Who sent you? Someone from the citadel?”

He probably wouldn’t care

[stray pecan]

🗣️🔥

[white stag]

I mean, Rick on Rick Death Battle is a common thing in Rick and Morty.

[minor smelt]

Yea but he's tired of them. I'd have expected a resigned acceptance, or a more passive aggressive response.

[minor smelt]

How long is Rick's portal cool down?