Morty Smith

[winged atlas]

Bring his combos back

[open terrace]

im prob gonna get my morty to masters after i do rick

[winged atlas]

And fix his bugs

[drifting plume]

Choosing the easy character first, I see

[open terrace]

this^. he doesnt need buffs tho

[open terrace]

rick is harder

[winged atlas]

Stun gun should not count as ground bouce

[drifting plume]

Not after all the buffs he got btw

[open terrace]

especially with jab and auto tech now kinda removes some of his portal combos

[winged atlas]

That is stupid

[open terrace]

nah rick def takes more skill

he always has

[drifting plume]

Only because you can set up some plays but nah, he is strong af, he was low S tier and they just buffed him lol

[open terrace]

nah i would put him in high A before. also they nerfed his jab 1 and sair which were the problem moves. hes still good htough

that dodge cancel attack change was like really good for him

[gentle lake]

Morty loses less matchups now.

No buffs needed.

Though, we might still need him fixed soon.

[ancient spire]

His jab isnt bad its actually amazing
Its just so slow that shorter weaker jabs usually win

[drifting plume]

In what world morty's jab is amazing lol

[winged atlas]

We dont want Morty buffs we want Morty bug fixes, fix side air and whip!!!

[frozen lance]

Wheres the patch notes?

[cedar jay]

if stun gun didn’t count as ground bounce morty combos would’ve never been true

in the first place

stun gun into earth is only true cause of ground bounce

[cedar jay]

how so

[gentle lake]

I don't know exactly. Must have been harder matchups getting nerfs.

[ancient spire]

Range is amazing
For a mage

Then again samurai jack and rick exist

[drifting plume]

Range sucks since it's a big hurtbox lol, you basically get hit so many times even if the enemy is doing and attack behind u

Also, because of that the attack trades A LOT
And many other jabs just straight up beat that weak jab

[ancient spire]

Well the hurtbox wouldnt be so bad to manage if it was faster

[frozen lance]

But Joker’s a lame character

[winged atlas]

No i mean like it doesnt count as groundbounce for the tec thing

[modern iron]

You guys are mage now

[sharp edge]

true

[fallow yarrow]

https://x.com/qquirky0_0/status/1826091981795188852?s=46

Rip Morty

[gentle lake]

Guys, Dair is more consistant.

[cursive wharf]

they should 100% make "SIR mortaniel" a legendary skin (my pfp for refrence)

[frozen lance]

Always have been, we were a Mage in bruiser’s clothing

[cursive wharf]

and give him the sword or sceptre for SAIR

[cedar jay]

they made it more consistent once they added tech

sure it’s good that’s consistent

but they do it so late?

and sair?

[gentle lake]

We can work it. We're Morties.

[tawny mica]

Is whip true now?

Or nah

Haven’t played morty in a minute

Just curious

[fallow yarrow]

Nope

[tawny mica]

Huh

Feel like they should make that true

[fallow yarrow]

They should

Jab jab jab isn’t true either

[tawny mica]

Huh

Bruh

[fallow yarrow]

Ik right 😭

[tawny mica]

Sticking to Adam then

Which tbh

Bro is whiff punish the character 💀

Big and beefy, good combo game, but man

He sure does

Whiff

[fallow yarrow]

Ajax lied to us

Straight in the face of qquirky

And all of the Morty mains on twitter

[tawny mica]

I think the reduction to Adam’s weight made him

Better

Not worse tbh

Ah yeah let’s make the dude faster

☠️

[fallow yarrow]

https://x.com/qquirky0_0/status/1825601224764518469?s=46

[flat stream]

Does weight affect mobility in this game?

[gentle lake]

Not certain.

[open terrace]

I’m pretty sure it does not

[ancient spire]

I think we should celebrate the good things in life

[ancient spire]

No, it only affects how far you go after getting hit

Its like a velocity multiplier based on how heavy an attack is, how much damage it does, and how much damage you have already taken

Lower weight means you fly farther and die faster

Higher weight means your character is hard to kill but easy to combo

Mobility is mainly speed and dodge distance

[frozen lance]

Yep

[winged atlas]

Guys new morty tech, when aproaching, now that jabs have small priority you can use dash plumbus (not charged) and follow up to an combo or stun gun, u mostly going to win the trades if they use jab

[gentle lake]

yosh

[ancient spire]

TRUE

But the problem is that now everyone is going to be dashing

💀

[tawny mica]

Oh?

Huh

[cedar jay]

wdym dashing

like dodge into plumbus

[flat stream]

I figured, but the other guy was making it seem like the weight nerf increased his speed, so I didn’t know if weight worked differently in MVS compared to other platform fighters

[ancient spire]

like dash attacks

[ancient spire]

no he is just dumb dumb lol

[native knot]

Bruh fighting tom and jerry is a pain sometimes

Fought a master 1 tom and jerry with their morty team mate and had to do a reverse 2-0 with my diamond 1 shaggy team mate

[modern iron]

Sometimes

More like all the times

Morty mains are the dumbest losers ever idc im so done with them

They always run away and play like babies

And then they'll say ermmm but this character has nothing

Idc anymore

Why did I start talking about morty

Uhhh

Thats worrying

What am I doing here

This is the morty channel

I was joking i love all morty mains

I never said anything

[gentle lake]

You play against really terrible Morties.

[radiant escarp]

You can't make the stun gun unreactable if it's going to lead to high damage combos and kills

[frozen lance]

I don’t think its unreactable most of the time, sometimes where you spawn makes it incredibly hard to react to

[radiant escarp]

I don't mean off spawn I moreso mean just in neutral

[frozen lance]

What do we do against a camping Black Adam (actual counterplay answers only please)

[gentle lake]

Dodge in, Plumbus, hope for the best.

[frozen lance]

oh

[cedar jay]

if ur on cooldown with ur stun gun

shoot the big orb

spam neutral and it’ll break quick

[hardy robin]

tf did they nerf lol

up attack still kills at 100

[fallow yarrow]

Whiff when u miss up air

[winged atlas]

Thats actually weakness thing

From dirt

Tbh its stupid that dirt gives weakness

[hardy robin]

i meant without the dirt

[winged atlas]

Did the Morty read ur dodge

[hardy robin]

nah he just used a side air then up air

his hitbox got smaller somehow

[winged atlas]

What character was u using

[hardy robin]

jack

[winged atlas]

Damn

So idk what happened

Are u sure u didnt have weakness

[hardy robin]

yes

[winged atlas]

I think it was a bug idk

The character in general is pretty buggy

[frozen lance]

Or just bad di

Was it on a plat?

[hardy robin]

diamond

[frozen lance]

Platform

[hardy robin]

oh, nah

[frozen lance]

I mean something I do know is Jack is pretty light

[hardy robin]

when he shouldnt be lol

[frozen lance]

I mean he is an assassin and they tend to be light

Wait is he one?

[hardy robin]

hes a bruiser

[frozen lance]

Why is he a bruiser

[flat stream]

Two stacks of weakened from Dirt makes me cry

[flat stream]

They made him a mage this last patch

Bc that’s how he plays

Oh wait you meant Jack 💀

This is why I need to read

[dense niche]

To the Morty who just beat me eat ass but gg that was a nail biter lol

[modern iron]

He fits better

Than assassin

[fallow yarrow]

https://x.com/ytnibi/status/1827625500002373829?s=46

[cursive wharf]

Day 2 of begging for sir mortenial skin

[edgy wasp]

snake gun shouldnt hit confirm into dirt

its crazy that this even needs to be said

it can kill by itself (with incredible killpower mind you) and also combos into dirt which combos into up air which also kills you very early

"just air camp him!!!" up air exists and any morty that has half a brain will use it

for the love of god

pfg please balance this character in a way that actually matters

also nerf his dodges so you can actually get hard reads on him, he dodges out of range out of 90% of the dodge read tools in the game

oh and he has several invincible recovery tools

he has up special ufo

basically cant contest that at all or risk getting randomly zero deathed and dragged to the top blast zone

side special has armor

obvious why thats broken

nowhere near enough time to punish it so he can rip it basically whenever and get away with it free

oh and dont get me started on up air

hitbox bigger than a semi truck

fast

kills early

oh and cant forget he also is tiny! he falls out of multihits and kill confirms!

so you just cant kill him unless you play incredibly risky for it, and thats obviously a bad idea because dirt + up air exists!

oh and he can shark slower characters with dirt and make it quite literally impossible to approach him

cant forget that either

[open terrace]

Nice thesis bro

[edgy wasp]

fed up with this ridiculous character

i

i'd use stronger language but it'd get me muted for 5 minutes

genuinely morty embodies everything that is wrong with this game

such a poorly designed character

could say something similar for taz but at least hes somewhat balanced out by his stubby range

morty can just hit you from anywhere

if they dont nerf this character within the next few patches i'm just straight up quitting this game for tekken

[native knot]

good morty will stay winning

[blazing cedar]

MORTY SMITH IN YOUR FACE

[cursive wharf]

Bye you won’t be missed

[edgy wasp]

hope to see this same sentiment even after hes nerfed, I'll ping you three specifically

byeee

[frozen lance]

Factually this is wrong. I can’t give my opinion on the rest since I don’t have too much of an opinion on the rest but gun does stop at a certain distance alongside dirt, you can camp Morty because of it

[frozen lance]

Also only thing I’ll say here is idk if its true at later percents when it really matters, I’m a Morty main but haven’t labbed much stuff out which is why I’m not giving my opinion on a lot of it

[winged atlas]

Bro is the yap monster 😭🙏

Damn these Mortys need to stop cooking this man

[winged atlas]

Even if he gets nerfed u will keep crying lol

[gentle lake]

The average Smash player when a Zoner exists:

Seriously though, why is it so hard to properly balance zoners?

[edgy wasp]

it isnt, as much as i hate him Marvin is a good example of a balanced zoner/projectile character. pfg just designed themselves into a corner with morty

no good way to nerf this character meaningfully because being broken is just part of his design, same thing goes for taz

nerf nado or up special taz is useless and no one will play him

nerf dirt startup, snake gun, or his general disadvantage state (it's nonexistent rn) morty is useless and no one will play him

he needs nerfs in all three of those areas but the devs are scared to do it

[gentle lake]

Yeah, but the thing is, if Morty can't get out of disadvantage he ded in 12 seconds.

Also, Morty is stupidly designed that you have to be at his skill ceiling, or you're at the skill floor.

[fallow yarrow]

Dirt startup already got nerfed

[winged atlas]

If they nerf dirt start up again we are cooked

[edgy wasp]

why does morty get special privileges here?

he has no disadvantage state

lol

he'd be fine at ledge cuz of up air, big hitbox and fast, gives him plenty of time to recover when landing it

[winged atlas]

There is actually no way they are nerfing dirt start up again

[edgy wasp]

why does he get get-out-of-jail-free cards?

not just one of em but two?

[gentle lake]

Of course he does. It's called when you used up all his cooldowns and dodge meter, which happens often if you aren't "The very best like no one ever was".

[edgy wasp]

it doesn't

[gentle lake]

Because Morty was specifically balanced only off the top players.

[edgy wasp]

it really doesn't happen often

[gentle lake]

Then the Morties you play against are gods.

[edgy wasp]

and even if it did, he has great mobility and, once again, side special

[gentle lake]

Which are all the character is balanced off.

Which sucks for people who play for fun.

[edgy wasp]

it might not have armor in burnout but its still insanely difficult to punish because of how little endlag it has

[winged atlas]

Why u crying abt Morty so much its problably skill issue man i didnt even play Morty this week i have been only playing Agent Smith and Morty is annoying Yes but u making it sound like he is unbetable

[gentle lake]

If you're worried about the little endlag, you aren't ready to play against good Supermen.

Because his combo game is even more busted

[edgy wasp]

try playing jason vs any morty player with a quarter of a brain

it is literally the definition of unwinnable

[winged atlas]

Bruh u playing Jason against a projectile character

Thats not Morty problem

[gentle lake]

Just use Dash Attack.

[edgy wasp]

doesnt block dirt

[gentle lake]

It destroys all projectiles.

[edgy wasp]

dirt isnt a projectile btw

idk if you knew that

[gentle lake]

I did.

That's why I know how Morty loses.

[edgy wasp]

morty players stop downplaying him challenge

literally impossible none of you care about how painful your character is to play against

[gentle lake]

If a Morty is relying on Dirt, that's when they've officially run out of options. If you fall for that, it's on you.

[winged atlas]

I know he is

[winged atlas]

But what do you want me to do abt it?????

[edgy wasp]

youre dense

[gentle lake]

Not as much as the people balancing him.

Because they suck.

[edgy wasp]

if youre not relying on dirt as morty you're not playing morty

[gentle lake]

If you're relying on dirt as Morty, you don't know how to play video games, because Morty has so many other options.

Though, most of them are on cooldown.

[edgy wasp]

morty is so immensely strong because hes strong on the ground and has infinitely many ways to get back to the stage so you can never actually press your advantage

[gentle lake]

Bro... how many Morties have you played?

[edgy wasp]

and he has incredible dodges, dodging out of range of most dodge read tools in the game

[edgy wasp]

im a Masters garnet, top 20 atm but peaked top 10, does that answer your question?

got here pre-buff

[gentle lake]

Well that explains why all the Morties you play are gods. Because they're the ones who the devs see and balance the character off. Which really sucks because the casual Morty players get stuck in Silver while the sweats are too busy making a fool out of you.

So yeah, Morty balancing is terrible.

[edgy wasp]

oh so you're a bad morty downplaying him because you're hardstuck low ranks

is that what im getting from this?

if devs balanced around top level morties he'd be D tier by now

but hes not, hes still in the top 5

[gentle lake]

No, I'm a mediocre Morty downplaying him because half of everyone I play knows how to counter him.

Or I match against Finn.

Or Tom and Jerry.

Or Marvin the Martian.

[edgy wasp]

youre complaining about projectile characters as a projectile character

skill issue

[gentle lake]

No, those are called losing matchups.

Garnet is not one of them.

That might explain your hard times.

[edgy wasp]

snake gun counters finn free

[gentle lake]

I don't see many Garnets, so I can't really help you there.

Side Special.

[edgy wasp]

use it while hes charging an attack

[gentle lake]

You're probably on cooldown.

[edgy wasp]

then dont mindlessly use snake gun like you always do

i know youre used to getting carried by your character but maybe learn a matchup or two

[gentle lake]

If you could do that, you wouldn't be here.

If I couldn't, I'd be you.

[edgy wasp]

you're not me because you play morty

[gentle lake]

If the matchups were balanced, more people would play this game.

[edgy wasp]

also i know how to learn matchups, everyone thought finn was a losing matchup before me and a few other top level garnet players started talking to each other about the matchup

[gentle lake]

Well allow me to explain how to beat Morties then.

Morty is only as useful as you make it out to be when he has his projectiles ready.

If you can manage to force him into exausting them, he can't zone.

Dirt can only go so far.

[edgy wasp]

press the advantage when his projectiles are on cooldown yada yada yada we've been over this, he's so insanely evasive its easy for him to just camp until his projectiles are off cooldown

[gentle lake]

Grenades can be blocked by Garnet's NSpecial.

[edgy wasp]

no they cant, nspecial doesnt reflect them just freezes them in place

until she punches them

[gentle lake]

Then hit them.

[edgy wasp]

and risk getting dirted?

nah

[gentle lake]

Keep the high ground.

[edgy wasp]

no approach tools from above

• dirt can shark

[gentle lake]

Dodge inward to avoid most of Morty's projectiles.

[edgy wasp]

oh and morty up air exists

[gentle lake]

Jab is easy to fall out of.

Morty Up Air hits nowhere below him or at his level.

[edgy wasp]

unless he starts to deal with it, in which case you'll catch a side air to the face

[flat stream]

Listen, I hate Morty, but you struggling against him while playing Jason and Garnet isn’t really a Morty problem. Those characters are just bad.

[edgy wasp]

not really

[gentle lake]

Yeah, and if the Morty can see your DI, he can start combos with it. Don't let him see your DI.

[gentle lake]

Well then your DI is terrible.

[flat stream]

Like I agree that Morty is very strong, but I don’t think he’s completely unbalanced

[edgy wasp]

yes he is

[flat stream]

At least not as unbalanced as like Joker or something

[edgy wasp]

i dont think morty players should be allowed to talk about mortys balancing

[gentle lake]

Pack projectile shield perks just in case.

[flat stream]

I’m not a Morty player

[edgy wasp]

doesnt do anything against morty because those perks are really only useful for protecting against bombs

and bombs are easy to avoid most of the time despite their absolutely absurd hitboxes

[gentle lake]

Can you parry?

[edgy wasp]

yes why

[gentle lake]

Can you do it consistently?

[edgy wasp]

yes why

[gentle lake]

Use the perk that allows you to reflect projectiles with it.

It'll save you a lot of hassle.

[edgy wasp]

snake gun comes out too fast, useless against bombs

• if you parry snake gun you'll get hit by dirt afterward

cuz parry locks you in place

[gentle lake]

Of course it can be used against bombs. Anticipate when the hitbox comes out and force the Morty to take the hit.

[edgy wasp]

what does that even mean

[gentle lake]

In this case, dodge toward the Morty.

[edgy wasp]

dirt catches dodges

[gentle lake]

When the Morty hits the grenade, then is your time to parry.

Not if the Morty is hit before the attack comes out.

Which you can do out of dodge.

[edgy wasp]

yeah parry the weird inconsistent hitbox they gave the nades when theyre moving for some reason

do you have any idea how unpredictable those hitboxes are?

[gentle lake]

Yeah, the grenades really shouldn't have that.

[edgy wasp]

dodging towards a morty when he hits snake gun is a great way to catch a dirt to the face

dodging away is a good way to just eat a snake gun hit

better than a dirt hit but it shouldn't be lose/lose

[gentle lake]

Use Jab against the Morty immediately after.

Or just jump.

[edgy wasp]

once again

dirt eats dodges, wont get the opportunity to do that

[gentle lake]

Keep the Morty both in the air and above you whenever possible.

[edgy wasp]

side special has armor and is unpredictable, good luck with that

[gentle lake]

If you can force the Morty into exhausting his dodge meter, you're golden.

[edgy wasp]

except any good morty will never run out of dodge meter

[gentle lake]

Also, Garnet has several attacks that hit more than once, like Jab.

[edgy wasp]

guess what

[gentle lake]

Those are good to use against Armor.

[edgy wasp]

morty falls out of jabs 3rd hit 4 out of 5 times!

[edgy wasp]

cant use jab in the air

[gentle lake]

Than use Up Special.

[edgy wasp]

also the startup and endlag are so atrocious on garnets jab1 that youre better off not using it at all outside of combos

[edgy wasp]

if the first hit lands, the second hit wont

because of the armor eating the scoop hitbox

[gentle lake]

darn

[edgy wasp]

ive tried just about everything

this character is brain dead broken

[gentle lake]

Anticipate where the Morty is going to be at all times, predict when he uses Dirt, mix up all movement whenever possible.

[edgy wasp]

how to play a platform fighter 101

[gentle lake]

If the Morty can't think properly, that's good.

[gentle lake]

Yes. That's what this game is.

[edgy wasp]

you really think i dont know what basic reads and positioning are?

[gentle lake]

Of course you do, you are high in ranked.

[edgy wasp]

then why'd you tell me things i already know

once again I have tried

pretty much everything

against this character

hes brain dead broken

just accept it

[gentle lake]

Have you tried them in different ways than normal?

[edgy wasp]

🙄

alright gold rank morty being condescending im outta here

always the morties man

[gentle lake]

Not until you can manage to reflect Grenades.

Then you shall earn the rank of Grand Master.

[edgy wasp]

i gotta ask, are you stupid? like genuinely. you havent listened to a word ive said despite pretending you did

what am i saying youre a morty player

[gentle lake]

You play Garnet. A character that hasn't gotten most of the buffs she deserves.

And you're in Masters as you've said.

[maiden pollen]

mortys a silly fella tbh i dont hate him as much anymore hes kinda scrunkly ❤️

[gentle lake]

Garnet naturally loses the Morty Matchup in the current meta. But that does not make the matchup unwinnable.

[edgy wasp]

you would know, you lose 60% of your matches

why are you still arguing this with me i just called you stupid

[gentle lake]

Because the Morty doesn't die until you can force his options to a minimum.

[fallow yarrow]

I love moving the same speed as garnet

Really great mobility

[edgy wasp]

great advice! you wanna know who else this advice applies to?

literally the entire cast!

[gentle lake]

Exactly

And you manage to beat them.

[fallow yarrow]

Morty’s gameplay is full of cooldowns

Lmao

[edgy wasp]

the difference being that morty has far better mobility and camping options

and no disadvantage state

[fallow yarrow]

They tried to nerf camping

But blame the devs

[edgy wasp]

failed btw

[fallow yarrow]

For taking away all of our stuff

All they did is make us more campy

[edgy wasp]

oh no its one of those types

[fallow yarrow]

Yup

Devs taking our options

And make us into camping players

[edgy wasp]

nerf his dodges, nerf his up and side special, nerf snake gun animation endlag so you cant hit confirm it into dirt

give him infinite dirt range back at that point idc

[gentle lake]

If you can't find Morty's natural disadvantage state, then you shall make one of your own.

[edgy wasp]

he has no disadvantage

[fallow yarrow]

I wish jab was a normal jab

And didn’t take 43 frames

[gentle lake]

Then you make one. Alter your playstyle for Morties specifically if you must.

[edgy wasp]

at least people cant fall out of it like morty can fall out of garnets jab

😁

[fallow yarrow]

😭 looks like you don’t know

[gentle lake]

Yeah, they need to buff Garnet.

[fallow yarrow]

Jab jab jab isn’t true

😭 I stand with Morty’s jab and garnets jab

Im very confused on why it isn’t true

[edgy wasp]

it is, im not sure where youre getting this

[fallow yarrow]

Arya can fall out

I’ve heard multiple clips of jab jab jab being not true

[edgy wasp]

arya is more broken than morty of course she can

[fallow yarrow]

Search up qQuirky

He shows all 45 Morty bugs

[edgy wasp]

i know who quirky is and he complains about his top tier more than anyone else

[fallow yarrow]

Morty was flawed from the start

Bro was rushed

Cus no rick

[fallow yarrow]

Anyway respect your garnet grind my guy

Garnet on master is tuff 🙏

[gentle lake]

Dude, a lot of characters fall out after Jab 2 hits.

It's just how they made it.

[flat stream]

Ngl the thing I hate most about Morty is dirt applying two stacks of weakened

[maiden pollen]

the only thing thats actually unreasonable on morty is the stun gun imo

everything else is actually reasonable

[edgy wasp]

snake gun -> dirt -> up air kills at 70 btw

not sure if you guys knew or cared enough to take that into account

and considering the size, range, and speed of snake gun youre basically guaranteed to land it

mortys entire playstyle revolves around camping and waiting for snake gun to recharge so he can kill you at absurdly low percents

make snake gun into dirt not combo then it might be fair

maybe

[gentle lake]

Yeah, Snake Gun might need more endlag.

Dirt could also use a bit more endlag, but if you're gonna nerf the Weakened, just reduce it to 1 stack per dirt. At Morty's current state, he needs weakened to get kills, but 2 stacks per dirt is a bit overkill.

[maiden pollen]

honestly idk what they d do with it but just rework that move

straight up that thing being that fast unreactable and having that low a cooldown for being a ''put your opponent in hitstun'' button is unfair

would actually fix morty being campy asf with just running around and fishing for that to hit forever

[edgy wasp]

cant forget it also covers jumps and kills you at 60 if you jump at the wrong time

oh and it can ledgeguard you and kill you at 0 with the power of the snake spike

[maiden pollen]

yeah i think this might be a bug but if you get hit at the perfect distance it does like 34 damage cuz your geting hit with both snakes lmao

[edgy wasp]

if theyre too scared to hit snake gun endlag just give it more knockback

make it like garnet gauntlet, doesnt kill until like 120 but does enough knockback to make comboing into dirt impossible

actually nah cuz then it'd cheese people offstage

i say that like it doesnt already do that

but what i mean is it'll make the problem worse

[maiden pollen]

imo in an ideal world rework it so it doesnt do knockback but you can double tap it to trigger snake split immedietly like exploding the bombs 🤷 would actually make snakes consistent and usefull for things like ledge gaming and be a sufficent nerf for morty

[edgy wasp]

if they do that theyd have to hard nerf the snake kb

downward snake in particular

i'd also rather not randomly die at 60 to an unreactable projectile because i decided to jump wrong either

[maiden pollen]

i just think it d be way cooler than the ''start combo button'' we have now tbh anything would be

[frozen lance]

Problem is either Morty kills at 60 or like 200

No in between

[edgy wasp]

more often 60

i cant count the number of times ive died to morty at absurdly low percent

its like every game

[flat stream]

Grenade knockback is kinda broken

Killed Adam at like 80 before the weight nerf

[proper bane]

I support this

[frozen lance]

Morty’s design is flawed, its why characters like Mac or Steve exist in smash because they are basically unbalanceable aside from a full on rework

[edgy wasp]

little mac is the opposite side of the spectrum, they cant buff him in any meaningful way without making him top tier so they just let him be bad

Steves balancing is just because he was close to the end of the games lifespan and it hit end of life before his meta developed enough

[flat stream]

Man what did Adam even do to y’all…

He’s fair and balanced fr fr

[proper bane]

Fly feels very unfair and most Adam players only fish for top stage kills

And since his flight is as good as it is the process isn't hard

Love the character just don't like fighting him in this game

[flat stream]

Nah I agree with that lol

This character is broken

His mobility with fly and side b makes him super hard to catch

[edgy wasp]

when a character is broken to the point where you can just face mash and win against jason is a lil ridiculous

worst morty on earth did nothing but mash out of hitstun and it just worked because jason is just too slow

[frozen lance]

He also had block which as a tool was just absurdly good

[drifting plume]

I was really going to answer how even if it's unfair the stun gun into dirt I just read this and I know you are the type of people who says taz is broken and that they should nerf his dash attack lol

Just a casual

I think I remember you from the garnet channel, you started crying about morty after I won against you, just to lose against another garnet, maybe it's a skill issue thing and not a matchup problem

[ancient spire]

When morty lacks air control
And black adam can literally fly
And black adam on the floor is immune to projectiles
Justify how the matchup is fair

[edgy wasp]

taz has two broken moves, being side special and up special, and he relies so heavily on those two moves that nerfing them would make him useless

[ancient spire]

I think taz is amazing with approach

[edgy wasp]

yes he has a combo game and decent pressure outside of those two moves but they alone are the reason why hes a poorly designed character

I never said he was op

[drifting plume]

Actually wrong btw he relies more on nair, not up special

[edgy wasp]

and since youre so smart @drifting plume A: who do you main? and B: what rank are you?

[ancient spire]

I didnt either

I think taz is actually really bad

[edgy wasp]

against morty he is

hes a nightmare against any character that doesnt have projectiles

[drifting plume]

Morty and Beetlejuice, I got into masters and then I stoped cuz It's not balanced rn

[ancient spire]

Most characters are bad against morty lol

[edgy wasp]

"not balanced" not the morty main talking

I'm top 25 garnet in masters btw

pre-buff

so stop talking :)

[drifting plume]

You only have a bad matchup and start crying lmao

You lost against another garnet after I won, you are just bad against and using your character

[ancient spire]

Didnt garnet get worse over the year

[drifting plume]

The ranked isn't anything btw I got top 5 morty so? lol

[ancient spire]

Also how is it fair to say your the number 25 garnet like its a flex

Nobody plays garnet in ranked

[drifting plume]

It's not even a flex in a ranked mode that shows how much someone plays, not how good he is

[edgy wasp]

you straight up destroyed my mental because youre a morty

[drifting plume]

Not my problem

[edgy wasp]

it will be when hes balanced

;)

youre carried admit it

[drifting plume]

Even if he becomes bad you are going to cry cuz it's a bad matchup but you don't learn that lol

[ancient spire]

Thats true lol ranked is pretty scuffed right now

Its ironic how much people begged for ranked because multiversus was dying

But when it came out it was so bad that multiversus died

[drifting plume]

People should learn that character has bad matchups, if you play ig and you lost against a marvin doesn't mean marvin is insanely op lol, just a bad matchup

[edgy wasp]

I pray you eventually have to suffer like I did

morty mains deserve worse

[drifting plume]

My mental is better than u if I pick garnet rn I climb as fast as I can bcuz I really have fundies

[edgy wasp]

okay

[drifting plume]

Btw garnet was my first main lol

[edgy wasp]

pick garnet then

pick garnet then

[drifting plume]

I can do it

[edgy wasp]

then do it

im waiting

also do you remember the name of the garnet i lost to?

[drifting plume]

Ok, what do you want me to do? lol

[drifting plume]

Yeah he's on the mx mvs server lol

[edgy wasp]

i've lost to several top garnets, doesn't mean I'm not a good player lol

[drifting plume]

One of my homies

[edgy wasp]

you'd lose to top morties too

[drifting plume]

Only to pumzo and leviathan lol

[edgy wasp]

no clue who they are

[edgy wasp]

what was the name though can you like

sayh it

what was it

[drifting plume]

Yeah santy iirc

[edgy wasp]

yk santy is top 3 rn right?

you're ragging on me for losing to the top 3 garnet?

how does that make sense?

and I'm aware there are holes in my game plan, i know where they are and im working on getting rid of the old habits

[flat stream]

Bro did not understand that I was very clearly joking

[ancient spire]

No dw i knew lol

[edgy wasp]

go ahead man spit it out

i believe in you winterfall go ahead

[drifting plume]

Ok then just work on that, if there are people better than you it's because of something, not only because they play better, they have learn things that you can't lol

I'm pretty sure when the lose they don't blame the other characters and start learning the matchup instead of going to a mvs server to rage about something you can't change

You can change and improve? Focus on that and ggs

[drifting plume]

Holy you are more annoying than morty lol

[edgy wasp]

may i remind you I wasnt the one that started throwing insults first

[edgy wasp]

morty is -2 and most garnets agree with that

if not worse than -2

[frozen lance]

You did start bashing our character first

[edgy wasp]

did i single you specifically out?

i did not

[frozen lance]

You did not

[edgy wasp]

i also was one of the first few garnets to learn that the finn matchup was positive with the marker perk, i know how to adjust to a matchup check

morty is just broken period

the only people

that defend this character

are morty mains

[frozen lance]

Finn mains will argue Finn isn’t broken

[edgy wasp]

the entire rest of the playerbase hates this character

[edgy wasp]

he isn't, at least not anymore

[plush owl]

Yeah he's broken. Broken and buggy lol

[frozen lance]

He can still 0TD tho

Idk what the difference is

[edgy wasp]

oh no someone falls out of your zero to death off the top on your ufo its so buggy and broken

[frozen lance]

How many Mortys go for the 0TD?

[edgy wasp]

not many cuz it sucks

[frozen lance]

Then there we go

Listen, I’ve heard you complain about the character but I’ve also heard no solutions to balancing him

[edgy wasp]

did you read anything at all

[frozen lance]

Read some

[edgy wasp]

please use your eyes

im not going to scroll up and go searching for you

[flat stream]

Oh word

[frozen lance]

This?

[edgy wasp]

yes i fleshed it out more later

or earlier

whatever

[frozen lance]

Ah ok

Well thing about Morty up special is the cooldown

Side special doesn’t tho

But the main issue I’ll say is if you nerf dirt and buff his close quarters tools to work then we’re good

Basically more extreme version of his Season 2 rework

Tho with PFG changing Morty from Bruiser to Mage, I don’t think that kind of rework is happening

[winged atlas]

Morty should get dirt start up lowered and make it have more whiff lag

[edgy wasp]

snake gun -> dirt shouldnt be true and nerfing dirt startup would be one way to fix it

[winged atlas]

Uhhh??? Yeah it should??? How do u expect people to kill comfirm

If dirt start up gets even higger i dont think Morty is killing until 180 or smth, or if u hit granade

[edgy wasp]

its basically a guaranteed kill if you have snake gun off cooldown, snake gun has insane hitstun, ground bounces, and is pretty much unreactable and even if you did react, the three options are:

• dodge away and hope to god you timed it right
• parry it and eat the dirt anyway
• dodge in and eat the dirt anyway

dodge landing would have you eat the dirt anyway too

[winged atlas]

Bro just learn how to counter play Morty

Learn the match up

Bait stun gun

That works all the time when i play against a Morty

But i do agree Morty should not be giving weakened on dirt

2 stack is insane

[edgy wasp]

by doing what? its unreactable, and the main counterplay to morty is air camping him. A good morty will always keep track of your jumps and hit you with snake gun when youre landing

[winged atlas]

I can beat Mortys as Jason and Smith

[edgy wasp]

well duh

most morties are garbage

[winged atlas]

U just dont want to learn the match up

[edgy wasp]

what rank and region are you?

or are you talking about quickplay?

quickplay everyone is garbage, i have a 90% win rate in quickplay

[winged atlas]

Masters 3 and i mostly play ranked

[edgy wasp]

as jason?

whats your username i gotta check that

[winged atlas]

No its as Morty

[edgy wasp]

wheres your jason then?

[winged atlas]

I am bronze

[edgy wasp]

there it is

[winged atlas]

Am gold 3 smith

[edgy wasp]

theres your answer

[winged atlas]

And i get Master players

I even got a Master Morty and beat him

[winged atlas]

And ur answear is that u only complay abt stuff and doesnt want to learn how to play against Morty

I am giving u tips but u still crying non stop

[edgy wasp]

yk most garnets agree morty is -2 or worse right

garnet has a brutal matchup against morty

so does jason

[winged atlas]

Ok so isnt that a Garnet problem?

Not a Morty

[edgy wasp]

morty has brutal matchups with most of the cast

[winged atlas]

Who?

[edgy wasp]

you dont realize how good he has it, morty has it insanely good

[winged atlas]

Im not staying he is bad

[edgy wasp]

i'll search for a matchup chart

[winged atlas]

Just dont agree he is insane as you say

Morty is A tier

[drifting plume]

He has an even match against most of the cast, +2 against slow characters and he gets destroyed by the top 4 characters rn btw

Also good luck trying to get a matchup chart of Morty if you don't even know pumzo or levi lol

[edgy wasp]

"he gets destroyed by the top 4 characters rn" think about that sentence for more than 2 seconds

EVERYONE DOES lol

that doesnt mean the character doesnt have problems

[drifting plume]

And you focus on saying that Morty is broken? Dang man I don't know what to tell you I complain about shaggy or joker rn not about steven lol

Idk what to tell you tbh, they are nerfing Morty almost every patch so I think you want him to be as bad as Jake idk

[edgy wasp]

morty is by far the most miserable character in the game to play against, joker and steven may be broken but at least it isnt genuinely painful to play against them in the same way it is with morty

and yes

i do

i want him to be on par or worse than marvin

marvin is a balanced projectile character

marvin is painful to play against too but not to the same extent nor for the same reasons

[drifting plume]

That's on u btw, I still feel playing against gizmo with 3 arrows, Arya dodging all neutral with dtilt and Joker still fishing for Jab just to do a 0-70 or even death is worse

But yeah, that's personal and depends on your character I guess lol

[winged atlas]

And will keep crying abt Morty

Cuz its a Garnet problem

Not Mortys

How many times this has to be said

[drifting plume]

Also Marvin is not balanced at all he is pretty bad rn, he has a problem with the auto techs just as much as Steven

[edgy wasp]

I havent had nearly as many issues with Arya after the down tilt nerf

she still a problem and kills way too early

but its not as bad as it was

[edgy wasp]

ive only been taking 40 from joker combos lately

and jab is way harder to fish for

joker card is still stupid and i hate it but in general these matchups are way less painful than they were

[drifting plume]

He can still kill characters at 30% btw

And I'm not even going to talk about light characters cuz he straight up has a 0tD but I guess they should focus on Morty and not fixing the bugs but nerfing stun gun and dirt

[edgy wasp]

go complain to the joker channel if you have issues with the joker, topic here is morty

you might just need to learn the matchup man idk

just learn the matchup right

just learn it

its easy

come on

[drifting plume]

That's what you should do with Morty lol

[edgy wasp]

can you not tell im mocking you

this whole channel

has been doing nothing but telling me to learn the matchup

you included

kinda ironic

[drifting plume]

I destroyed your mental with a silly character on a digital game not like you can mock me after that

[winged atlas]

Cuz u actually need to, Morty has counter play just like every other character

[edgy wasp]

seems like your mental gets destroyed by joker players too considering how you shifted topic so hard to complain about him

[winged atlas]

But S tier characters are the actual issue

[viscid palm]

laughing so hard at this line

[edgy wasp]

he is

am I wrong about that? please tell me exactly how I'm wrong about that

[drifting plume]

I was explaining what they should focus rn, what is problematic but I guess you only know how to complain about a bad matchup lol, I'm just waiting for u to lost against another character so you can go to a channel and start raging lol

[viscid palm]

burden of proof lies on the one making the claim how is he the most balanced projectile character rn lol

[edgy wasp]

its only morty and steven, i hate marvin but i dont go around complaining hes broken

[winged atlas]

Steven has actual no counter play

He is the one that needs insane nerfs

[edgy wasp]

my matchup experience against him puts him at +1 against garnet, garnet is a mid tier and struggles against projectiles anyway

most tierlists put him at B tier

[viscid palm]

tbh if you’re losing to morty in ones you’re just dogwater

[plush owl]

Steven needs a rework desperately

[viscid palm]

wtf are you on about

[edgy wasp]

so youre baiting

got it

[winged atlas]

Nah only nerfs

[plush owl]

Lol

[viscid palm]

genuinely explain your point

it makes no sense

dude has no clue what he’s talking about 😭

[edgy wasp]

you just dont understand what im saying

i'll spell it out for you just gimme a minute

[viscid palm]

“marvin has a good matchup against “x” so he’s the most balanced projectile character”

how does that correlate

people put him in b tier because he underperforms

most character typically go in A

with outliers above and below

[edgy wasp]

what is bro talking about

[maiden pollen]

this channel is 🔥

[edgy wasp]

90% of tier lists put him in B tier and I agree with them

[winged atlas]

Fel is the main Morty hater

[viscid palm]

so he’s bad

thank you

stop typing

[edgy wasp]

marvin

not mortyu

lmao

[viscid palm]

i’m not talking about morty

[edgy wasp]

might be a lil lost bud

[viscid palm]

i’m talking about marvin

[edgy wasp]

b tier is balanced

leave

[viscid palm]

are you dumb?

[maiden pollen]

dumb is a mean word

[viscid palm]

idc

[maiden pollen]

did your parents give you permision to use that

[winged atlas]

Smith is not on B tier and is the most balanced character rn

[maiden pollen]

you could hurt someones feelings 💔

[viscid palm]

lol

[edgy wasp]

smith is arguably the most honest character in the game rn

i love fighting smith

[frozen lance]

Honestly I would learn Smith but gonna wait for him to become 3k

I just play the characters I find fun

[viscid palm]

smith is fun fairly simple to pick up

[cedar jay]

this wont happen lil bro morty is already gutted

[viscid palm]

bros been crying about a character in a video game for days 😭😭😭

[gentle lake]

Jeez, if only Morty was fun to play as on all skill levels.

[cursive wharf]

Day 3 of begging for sir mortaniel morty skin @lyric raptor

[cedar jay]

who wants masters im doing masters services

[viscid palm]

boosting is crazy

[ancient spire]

Skull

Marvin is more campy than reindog

[gentle lake]

They're only as campy as you make them.

[ancient spire]

Marvin as a character is campy

Just because they choose to not be campy doesnt mean they cannot be

[gentle lake]

I guess he does have enough projectiles to camp.

[ancient spire]

Ye

Im not saying every marvin does camp but

The fact that their camp game is so strong is wild lol

[gentle lake]

But what about Reindog gives him the ability to camp?

[ancient spire]

His lack of approach tools

[gentle lake]

oof

That's gotta suck

[ancient spire]

Thats why prenerf dirt was so hated

Its because morty had nothing else that eas reliable

Yet characters with better dirt keep their tools

Like gizmo

With the downside being that it only has infinite ammo if you hit your shots

Even though you can dodge out of using it

And its so fast its unreactable

[gentle lake]

Why does it reload ammo on hit anyway?

[ancient spire]

It reloads on hit if fully charged

But its so easy to fully charge that it doesn't make sense lol

Since its default reload speed is already so fast

Ive basically stopped playing morty in 1v1s because by default

He is so insanely easy to punish

[gentle lake]

I still enjoy playing as Morty.

But the fact that they chose to completely change his archetype instead of actually fix him is insane.

[edgy wasp]

marvin is less campy than morty

his only camping tool that doesnt have a cooldown is jab 3 and thats insanely slow

[gentle lake]

You forgot Up Attack

Plus, he can break through armor with Down Attack

Though, other than that, you're right.

[edgy wasp]

hows he gonna camp you from across the stage by shooting up

thats a juggling tool not a camping tool

[gentle lake]

Targeting using Down Special

[fallow yarrow]

Still talking from yestarday 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

Bros the biggest hater

[gentle lake]

Doesn't even need the flag.

[gentle lake]

This kid is the Kendrick Lamar of Morties.

[fallow yarrow]

I swear I just pictured smth

Hold on

[gentle lake]

Except Kendrick has points.

So he's more Eobard Thawne.

[edgy wasp]

nobody likes morty except for morty players, I'm just more vocal about it

[gentle lake]

Have you asked literally everyone?

[edgy wasp]

go ahead and ask around in the character channels

you'll get the same answer 9 out of 10 times

and if someone answers with something positive about morty, make sure to ask them if they play morty to any extent

thats an important element

[fallow yarrow]

I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress.” It’s almost like he’s trying to sneak in with these cheap tricks, but if you catch on, it’s game over for him.

Not like Morty

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[gentle lake]

You're not gonna like Tom and Jerry players.

[edgy wasp]

i dont like them either

but since the tech introduction t&j is less infuriating than he was before

[fallow yarrow]

Jerry

Jerry

Jerry

Jerry

Jerry

Jerry

[edgy wasp]

skill issue just kill him with dirt

[fallow yarrow]

Sound familiar

[edgy wasp]

dirt onetaps jerry from what i remember

[fallow yarrow]

Dirt dosent kill him lmao

[edgy wasp]

damn

[fallow yarrow]

If u would of played you would of know

[edgy wasp]

thats unfortunate but i personally dont care about morty players struggling and in fact think they should be struggling more

[fallow yarrow]

I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress.” It’s almost like he’s trying to sneak in with these cheap tricks, but if you catch on, it’s game over for him.

This you?

[edgy wasp]

youve made that joke already

[fallow yarrow]

Make a distract fr

[edgy wasp]

its not funny after the second time

[gentle lake]

You don't struggle if you know how to play the game as intended.

[fallow yarrow]

Too bad

[gentle lake]

What joke? You?

[edgy wasp]

do you know what matchups are

[fallow yarrow]

DAMN

[gentle lake]

Yes, I've played against Tom and Jerry.

[fallow yarrow]

BRO COOKED U

[edgy wasp]

crazy 6th grade level comeback

lol

[fallow yarrow]

It seems to me

That you are more likely a 6 year old than him

For going into character channels

[edgy wasp]

look, as a garnet if i dont struggle against t&j you shouldnt struggle as morty

[fallow yarrow]

To spam nerf

And just hatin

[edgy wasp]

its only morty and steven 😁

and steven players are way more humble about their broken character

they know hes broken

and openly admitnit

[fallow yarrow]

💀

[edgy wasp]

you people just cant admit you have a skill issue

[fallow yarrow]

Play Morty

Do it

Use jab while your at it

[edgy wasp]

no hes a brain dead piss easy character

[fallow yarrow]

Use down air

[edgy wasp]

i have played him

lol

hes easy

[fallow yarrow]

Use sair 1 and 2

[fallow yarrow]

Cus u spam dirt

Lmao

And don’t use granades

[edgy wasp]

when you play morty youre throwing if you dont spam dirt

[fallow yarrow]

That’s how you know your a toxic mf if you spam dirt🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[fallow yarrow]

You have never played with granades

[edgy wasp]

grenades kill at 60 off a lucky hit yes i know

[fallow yarrow]

Granades are the best move he has

[edgy wasp]

i have done it

[fallow yarrow]

No no no

I’m talking about

How spawn all granades

Split them

[edgy wasp]

ive spiked someone to death with nades at 20 i know theyre broken

[fallow yarrow]

And dash attack

[edgy wasp]

yes split with dirt

[fallow yarrow]

80%

[edgy wasp]

lol

[fallow yarrow]

Off of that

From 0 to 80

[edgy wasp]

bro you telling me about this isnt convincing me morty isnt broken

morty is broken

[fallow yarrow]

Is broken only if you pull it off

[edgy wasp]

you just argued against your own point

[fallow yarrow]

Chances are you aren’t going to be doing at all the time

Cus it won’t hit half of the time

Also you have been here since last day

Keep complaining about Morty won’t make you good against him

[edgy wasp]

i guess i shouldnt expect you to pick up on this considering all morty mains have the collective brain power of a cockroach

[gentle lake]

Of course Morty is Broken. He has too much range, too little close up potential, and Up Special gives you a 0td.

A lot of stuff that PFG refuses to fix.

Now shut up so we can enjoy what we have.

[edgy wasp]

you literally just argued the opposite

[fallow yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585382625179336704/1278043806822043769/caption.gif?ex=66cf5e8c&is=66ce0d0c&hm=6155e8023b3497d77391a0a14354e107cc66326ca9466b22f0cc2a9948bf3388&

[gentle lake]

That isn't the opposite. It's the counterpoint. And all you have to do is think ahead.

[fallow yarrow]

We never were making the point of Morty isn’t broken

Me when bro can’t jump over a dirt

[gentle lake]

If you're gonna be this toxic, play Shaggy or Bugs.

[fallow yarrow]

You can absolutely read dirt

Since the nerf lmao

It’s more of a skill issue at that point

[edgy wasp]

you were the one that threw the 6th grade insult first brother, i just clapped back

[fallow yarrow]

Clapped you back?

💀

[edgy wasp]

are you 12?

you act like it

[fallow yarrow]

Are you 4?

You act like it

[edgy wasp]

you said "DAMNNN HE ROASTED U" at "i know you are but what am I" dawg

[fallow yarrow]

Cus it seems to me your 20 and your still playing and complaining on this game

[edgy wasp]

i like arguing with idiots, its fun

[fallow yarrow]

Yea same

That’s why I argue with you

[gentle lake]

Then argue with Bugs mains.

[fallow yarrow]

:D.

[edgy wasp]

bugs is balanced

i have no problems with them

[fallow yarrow]

Up air killing at 70

Is that balanced?

No weaken at 70 kills

[edgy wasp]

morty issue, just ground camp him bro just use dirt

[fallow yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585382625179336704/1278043806822043769/caption.gif?ex=66cf5e8c&is=66ce0d0c&hm=6155e8023b3497d77391a0a14354e107cc66326ca9466b22f0cc2a9948bf3388&

This is so funny

I have to spam it

[gentle lake]

Because Morty (and Batman) need Weakened in order to kill.

[fallow yarrow]

Me when bugs bunny kills me at 60

[edgy wasp]

batman dont need weakened datk and up special both kill at 110

[fallow yarrow]

With no weaken

[edgy wasp]

skill issue just dodge it

[fallow yarrow]

Skill issue ?

[gentle lake]

Dirt is the same thing.

[edgy wasp]

yep

[fallow yarrow]

It’s one move

[fallow yarrow]

Then every time someone hits you with dirt is a skill issue

[edgy wasp]

I know, I'm making a point, you two are just dense

[fallow yarrow]

Lmao

[fallow yarrow]

Talks the 20 year old

[edgy wasp]

what does that have to do with anything

[fallow yarrow]

Imagine how lonely you have to be

To complain about a game

At 20 years old

[edgy wasp]

i play the game with my friends too, just kinda not fun when we have to fight against morty

[fallow yarrow]

Bros so mad at a 14 year old character

[edgy wasp]

also projecting much?

[fallow yarrow]

YOU SAID I WAS 12 LATER

THAT IS PROJECTING 💀

[gentle lake]

Yeah. So are Smash Players.

[edgy wasp]

arya is like 9

she was busted

she still is

[fallow yarrow]

I’m talking about Morty’s age

[edgy wasp]

whole community complained about her

[fallow yarrow]

Up special is not fair

That hit stun is crazy

[gentle lake]

Do you know who else they complained about?

[fallow yarrow]

😁

[edgy wasp]

dirt is not fair
that hitstun is crazy

lol

[fallow yarrow]

If he dosent get this

[gentle lake]

Of course Dirt isn't fair. Axe is.

[fallow yarrow]

Axe not connecting to sair 2

Is the worst thing ever

[gentle lake]

It does if your opponent DIs down.

[fallow yarrow]

Me when skill issue

[fallow yarrow]

Why would an opponent di down

[edgy wasp]

i could have said skill issue when you mentioned arya but i didnt lol

move is genuinely broken

so is dirt

btw

not sure if you knew that

[fallow yarrow]

So is bugs bunny

Btw

[edgy wasp]

dirt is broken btw

[fallow yarrow]

Not sure if you knew that

[edgy wasp]

not really, just dodge

[fallow yarrow]

It’s not even dirt at all

It’s up air

Lmao

[edgy wasp]

dying to bugs up air outside of confirms is a skill issue

[fallow yarrow]

Y’all complaining about dirt is the most funny thing

[ancient spire]

Its true

[edgy wasp]

that move is insanely slow and well telegraphed, even i can dodge it as a garnet

[fallow yarrow]

Beacuse dirt isn’t even the part to killing

[ancient spire]

The truth is

Morty was literally designed to camp

[fallow yarrow]

Oh oh looks like I’m killing someone at 60 today

[ancient spire]

Its sad and boring but it's the truth

[fallow yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585382625179336704/1278043806822043769/caption.gif?ex=66cf5e8c&is=66ce0d0c&hm=6155e8023b3497d77391a0a14354e107cc66326ca9466b22f0cc2a9948bf3388&

[edgy wasp]

no one is opening those gifs

[ancient spire]

Ong

[fallow yarrow]

It’s ntilt. Dirt. Uair

Lmao

[edgy wasp]

i respect morties that admit their character has problems

will never play against them because morty as a character would ruin my respect for them but otherwise yeah

[fallow yarrow]

I respect garnets that admit that if they don’t read dirt

They have a skill issue

[edgy wasp]

go to #1245143274260402222, all of them agree morty is -2 if not worse

go ahead

[flat stream]

This argument going crazy

[fallow yarrow]

ntilt. dirt. up air

Me when I play my character and get hate comments

[gentle lake]

Maybe just get the complaints directly to PFG? Oh wait. They're allergic to fixing their game properly.

[fallow yarrow]

I’ve bet that they won’t fix him in season 3

If they do I will be gifting subs to a streamer

Named tekoa

[edgy wasp]

so we agree on something

[gentle lake]

Yes. That PFG stands for Payer First Games.

[edgy wasp]

thats warner bros

i personally think mvs is incredibly generous for a f2p game, more generous than most of the other big-budget corporate owned games

what im not a fan of is the grind

theres really not much fomo in this game because theyve set the precedent that cosmetics won't be battle pass or event exclusives

no other f2p game does that

[gentle lake]

Yes, but do they do balance in a timely manner? Not in the slightest.

[edgy wasp]

thats where the problem is

[gentle lake]

Took them 3 months to remove the Head hitbox for Bugs Bunny's side air.

[fallow yarrow]

Thing is uh it’s a f2p model

[gentle lake]

Took them 1 month to make Jack not completely cheap.

Took them 5 years to put a cooldown on Shaggy's sandwich.