#Garnet

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crisp bronze
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Nah

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Its not

tiny comet
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I discovered it

crisp bronze
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๐Ÿ™ƒ

signal dirge
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I discovered if you get turned to a dog by Rick you get to spam your troll tactics

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Like d1

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Favorite useless texh

crisp bronze
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It is what it is

Anyway
Im really looking for next tourney

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I played 2 in release version xD

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And one being garnet one

signal dirge
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Represent us as garnets fross

crisp bronze
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Pauly represents best for now

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He and that second guy from na

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They both had top 8

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I was top 17

signal dirge
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Fross are you getting gm?

tiny comet
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Rep the set

crisp bronze
signal dirge
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I use the work excuse alot but yeah

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I cannot afford to no life the game THAT hard

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Well atleast they didn't just expand the ranks and inflate masters

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Diamond 1 was tough tho

novel copper
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I forgot Grand Masters was even a thing

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not even gonna think about it

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the sheer sweaty spamcheese that probably goes into getting Top 100 in the world makes me wanna hurl

true fiber
signal dirge
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It's not even like.

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Get top 100

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It's. Gain the most rp

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Getting everyone to silver is better than getting 1 to masters

tiny comet
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I got new tech

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And im gate keeping it

signal dirge
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YOU MF

tiny comet
signal dirge
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I got all the jakes to learn the reverse horse tech

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What's the tech

tiny comet
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Two rank ups from masters in 2s

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๐Ÿ˜

signal dirge
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Let's gooo

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Fellow 2s king

tiny comet
signal dirge
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:3

signal dirge
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Does sair one combo to rockets?

tiny comet
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@novel copper trying to take my rp

novel copper
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Forgot that was you lmao

signal dirge
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Did yall meet up in 2s?

lapis lynx
novel copper
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FORGIVE MEEEEEEEEE

tiny comet
novel copper
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๐Ÿ™

novel copper
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that felt personal

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

signal dirge
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Why don't i ever meet up w ya guys in masters. I only get wonder woman's

tiny comet
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Now himothy trying take my points

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Not on my watch

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I dont lose garnet mirrors in ranked

novel copper
signal dirge
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I'm gold 3 on my brother's account. So maybe we'll fight

tiny comet
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My points crying_steven

lapis lynx
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Wonder what's going to be changing about ranked

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Would be cool to have placement matches

novel copper
lapis lynx
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Yeah

novel copper
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which is good for 2v2s where you're stuck with dead weight

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or someone who's definitely just afking

signal dirge
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That's good. Tho they make you take full penalty

tiny comet
signal dirge
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Winners shouldn't be allowed to not rematch tho

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Also if I surrender does my teamate surrender?

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Do we have to agree?

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I don't want toddlers to lose one and go. Welp ggs

novel copper
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I still remember the bruises you gave me

tiny comet
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Im playing for keeps gotta rep the set

signal dirge
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2s is so fun fr

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Tho next season maybe I'll grind 1s

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Just to have masters in 1s once

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To prove my power

tiny comet
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Goood luck

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Grind is real

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Youโ€™ll find a rhythm in games then get put vs gizmo or t&j just to shid on your session

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Main con

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Beetle juice looking fun

signal dirge
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I'm dreading the snake door

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It's a really nasty move

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Like. You do not punish a landing bj

tiny comet
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Bomb and snake door to edge guard

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Ggs

signal dirge
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Hopefully he just. Isn't busted

tiny comet
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Nah

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Just a new matchup to learn

tiny comet
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Iโ€™ll trade either way

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Release jerry_fist ๐Ÿ˜

upbeat fable
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Smith can shoot one bullet into Bugs rocket and delete it from existence

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I still don't think Garnet gauntlets should be heavy projectile, but just let it move better

signal dirge
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True

tiny comet
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Hoping for more tech

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If down attack hitstun was more consistent like morty dirt i could optimize more

novel copper
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Sweet, got to Gold with Marvin

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that'll do for tonight

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now we wait for the patch tomorrow

fleet birch
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anyone else having a surge of velmas?

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5 matches and ive had 3 velmas

novel copper
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In 2s, yeah. I've only encountered a Velma twice in 1s.

fleet birch
tiny comet
novel copper
tiny comet
rigid storm
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๐Ÿคญ

novel copper
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A Velma

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there's a Velma among us

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๐Ÿ‘€

tiny comet
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Impasta!!!

rigid storm
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Bro, I hate solo q

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Someone team with me plz

wicked tusk
tiny comet
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Going rest dm me the garnet patch sauce

toxic walrus
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Bro this is bad, I'm at work and all I can think about is the patch, get me outta here ASAP.

signal dirge
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When does the patch actually drop

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I'm headed to work now too lmao

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I really hope they don't just keep speeding the game up with stuff like their pseudo wavedash. This doesn't need to be melee

lofty loom
wicked tusk
lofty loom
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

crisp bronze
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w h e r e p a t c h

wicked tusk
crisp bronze
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but nobody asks how is patch... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

lapis lynx
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Fr, patch has feelings too

signal dirge
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Yar be patch

lapis lynx
crisp bronze
loud light
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Ngl I dunno how useful that double ground bounce tech thing is

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Maybe for characters like Iron Giant Jason and Iโ€™m guessing Garnet, but besides them I donโ€™t see many characters struggling with that

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Cause like who double down airs anymore?

crisp bronze
loud light
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Yeah?

signal dirge
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He means teching

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Not the wavedashing

crisp bronze
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oh

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fck

loud light
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The double down air thing

crisp bronze
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ah ye

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its good tho

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joker is worst

loud light
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Fair

crisp bronze
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that all i wanted

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xD

loud light
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I dunno how useful that jab low priority thing is gonna be

signal dirge
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It's gonna stop nair sair 1 down jab dash. Since nair bounces. But just clap instead

crisp bronze
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wave dashing may be the most imprtant thing they added but people did not register it yet

signal dirge
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It's gonna be useful as all lord

loud light
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Cause I canโ€™t think of many moves that would even be fast enough for reaction to jabs like Joker or Finn

upbeat fable
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Tbh

signal dirge
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You can sair 1 jabs now

upbeat fable
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I'm just happy there are changes

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To jab

crisp bronze
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jabversus no more

loud light
signal dirge
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Jab versus

loud light
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Was that the dodge near ground thing?

crisp bronze
loud light
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Oh ok

crisp bronze
loud light
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Batman side air off of that is gonna go crazy

crisp bronze
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i will shoulderbash into your jab without being scared

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: D

loud light
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So indirect shoulder bash buff

crisp bronze
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y

loud light
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

upbeat fable
crisp bronze
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YEEEEEES

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AND MORE GARNET BUFFS OUTSIDE INDIRECT ONES

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LEZZGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

signal dirge
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Shoulder bashing into jabs

wicked tusk
signal dirge
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This sounds kinda toxic actually

wicked tusk
crisp bronze
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bashing 30 times in one match is completly fine

loud light
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Yeah but like

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Barely anyone uses Garnet

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Plus the second PFG sees any mid tiers and below do anything even remotely cool or strong theyโ€™ll remove it

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Canโ€™t have the mid tiers doing top tier techniques

signal dirge
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No jab as an anti tool

crisp bronze
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PATCH NOOOOTES

signal dirge
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Where?

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Send em

drowsy arch
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Garnet

Ground Side Attack 2 (Side)

  • Now applies armor on start-up
    Ground Neutral Attack
  • Hitbox size increased to better match visuals
  • Hitbox active duration increased 4 frames to better match visuals
    Air Neutral Attack
  • Start-up window before charge reduced 3 frames
    Air Up Attack
    โ€“ First hit hitbox size reduced to better match visuals
drowsy arch
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we got our armor back on jab2

lapis lynx
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Nice

drowsy arch
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the nair buff is interesting

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cuz i use nair as a combo starter often

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not sure how i feel about the up air nerf? like why

novel copper
loud light
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Oh

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Iโ€™m devastated rn by these patch notes

novel copper
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Also T&J's BS slingshot into paddle, which can be avoided but is still annoying if you DO get caught

loud light
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1.25 seconds for tilts ๐Ÿ˜”

novel copper
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I'm reading them now

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I dig the Arya hurtbox adjustment, maybe now our combo can actually work on her

drowsy arch
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arya, gizmo and marvin got head hurtbox increased thank god

novel copper
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and that ridiculous knockback got nerfed too? awesome

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GIZMO TOO?? YESSSSSS

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This is exactly what they needed

drowsy arch
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ya i always thought the smallest characters were op and needed hurtbox adjustments

novel copper
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Black Adam weight reduced, now it'll be easier to kill that campy bastard

drowsy arch
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i'm glad that lebron got reverted after the ground bounce changes

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I KNOW omfg i always thought black adam was way too heavy for his mobility

novel copper
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Laughing that Bugs got zero changes

drowsy arch
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taz is an assassin now

novel copper
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๐Ÿ˜‚

fluid trail
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nair buff

frozen iris
fluid trail
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nair buff is huge

drowsy arch
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ya def

novel copper
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oh wait, misread

drowsy arch
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3 frames faster

fluid trail
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imo nair didnt need a buff at all it was already good but this just makes it even more busted

novel copper
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we got faster nair?

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๐Ÿ‘€

drowsy arch
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I wish that they made sair 1 and sair 2 connect better and our up air

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3 frames faster nair

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also our neutral attack got hitbox increased LOL.....

frozen iris
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Curious if it Nair can be used in combos now.

drowsy arch
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nair could always be used in combos

fluid trail
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up air hitbox nerf is gonna nerf some di read confirms but i cant imagine its that bad

drowsy arch
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i used it as a combo starter all the time

novel copper
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WHOA

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did they give us our ground slam armor back?!

drowsy arch
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ya

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they did

novel copper
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๐Ÿ‘๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘„ ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

frozen iris
drowsy arch
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oh you mean midcombo u wanna use nair?

fluid trail
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they didnt touch gizmo at all

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well

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they did

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but not enough

drowsy arch
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i hope the up special can't kill

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it was "made more horizontal"

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and the charge time of arrow is reduced

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i was so pissed when he held the arrow

novel copper
fluid trail
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not really

drowsy arch
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i think so too

frozen iris
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They really went after held moves. Finn got hit hard.

fluid trail
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most gizmo players will just charge and store the arrow

novel copper
fluid trail
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if anything the gizmo changes were a buff, his up special will kill way earlier

fluid trail
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they absolutely destroyed Rick but didnt touch morty at all thats crazy

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destroyed Jack too

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jack didnt need anything

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joker got his jab range nerfed thats amazing

novel copper
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Ahh, so there was an issue with the Resurrectionist Perk, that explains why I lost that one 2v2 with Jason

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Marvin's a Mage now, good

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no other changes besides hurtbox, good

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Morty got some delay frames and that's all...

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๐Ÿ˜”

crisp bronze
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Btw
Does classes have any effects?

fluid trail
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rick got reworked but morty didnt get any changes at all

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rick was actually kinda fair albeit annoying

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morty just isnt

drowsy arch
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velma looks like she will b really strong now

novel copper
fluid trail
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i dont think the velma changes will do enough to make her viable

novel copper
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Marvin definitely plays more like a Mage than an Assassin

drowsy arch
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assassins used to take 1 extra damage in beta

novel copper
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same for Morty being a Mage instead of a Bruiser

fluid trail
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velma was just so incredibly weak i doubt these changes will make much of a dent

novel copper
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now for the good reads

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Jack Nerfs

drowsy arch
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velma gota brand new move and 1 rework on her side special

fluid trail
drowsy arch
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i always thought velma was quite strong in 2's. my friend is in masters and i can see what he does with her.

fluid trail
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i never had problems with jack

exotic hemlock
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erm when update

fluid trail
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the jacks i lost to were just better than me

drowsy arch
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the jack nerfs dont seem game breaking to me or 2 severe

novel copper
loud light
slim stone
novel copper
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It's avoidable, but it's the principle of the matter

loud light
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And maybe shouldnโ€™t kill as early

fluid trail
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in twos i can imagine him being harder to deal with

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im a ones person so idk much about twos

novel copper
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Shaggy's Rage attacks can't break armor anymore...

fluid trail
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im sad for the nerfs for ones tho

novel copper
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so we can actually clash with him and survive

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that's great

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hated that we just lost the punch vs kick interaction

fluid trail
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the SJ nerfs will put him in like C tier or D tier for ones

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he was in A tier before imo

novel copper
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We can remove bubble stacks by hitting Steven, that's good

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now we don't have to tiptoe around him until it times out

fluid trail
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steven needs to be gutted honestly

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absolute monster in ones

novel copper
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hitbox on the sair was reduced

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good

drowsy arch
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his air down attack

novel copper
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hate that shield

drowsy arch
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lockout

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sry air down special

fluid trail
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his shield needs to have startup nerfs

exotic hemlock
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are there patch notes already?

fluid trail
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it just does too much to have that little startup

novel copper
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Stripe got his gun back

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good for him tbh

loud light
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W

fluid trail
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lebron got his down special back

novel copper
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no changes to Taz

fluid trail
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annoying character but honest

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so w

novel copper
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that's an L

fluid trail
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w to the lebron buffs i mean

loud light
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They just straight up made dude switch teams ๐Ÿ˜ญ

drowsy arch
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is there still the assassin debuff thing?

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or was that removed

loud light
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Nah

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Itโ€™s gone now

exotic hemlock
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Ground Side Attack 2 (Side)

  • Now applies armor on start-up
    Ground Neutral Attack
  • Hitbox size increased to better match visuals
  • Hitbox active duration increased 4 frames to better match visuals
    Air Neutral Attack
  • Start-up window before charge reduced 3 frames
    Air Up Attack
    โ€“ First hit hitbox size reduced to better match visuals
loud light
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That was like a beta thing

exotic hemlock
drowsy arch
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no our fist. it's jb2

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jab2

exotic hemlock
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oh i didnโ€™t know that

drowsy arch
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we got beta jab2 back

novel copper
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feels good

rigid storm
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Omg Garnet buffs ๐Ÿ™‚โ€โ†•๏ธ

exotic hemlock
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jay

rigid storm
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Love to see it

novel copper
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๐Ÿ‘๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘„ ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

drowsy arch
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they are really good and I think she's gonna b strong

exotic hemlock
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nair is better yesss

slim stone
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I'm happy you guys got buffs we keep getting nerfed over here with Steven...

drowsy arch
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velma will b killer in 2's

rigid storm
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@novel copper Iโ€™m about to look for a new main ๐Ÿ˜‚

novel copper
drowsy arch
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the sad thing about steven nerfs is that not a lot of ppl play steven

novel copper
rigid storm
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Iโ€™m going to miss the funny word bubble combos

slim stone
exotic hemlock
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they didnโ€™t even touch wonder woman instant armor on side special

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or whatever her shield side move is

drowsy arch
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they did touch WW.... pretty big nerf to her armor

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I really like these patch notes. I think they are fair

exotic hemlock
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beetle juice is only available if you have gleamium

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i just got trolled so hard

drowsy arch
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u can't buy with fighter currency? wtf

exotic hemlock
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only for 3 days

drowsy arch
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omg i need to stop swearing on this server. I keep getting locked out for 5 minutes

novel copper
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I like that Velma has a down spec cooldown move, may explore that in the lab

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all in all these are solid adjustments

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now we wait for maintenance to end

lapis lynx
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Agree

drowsy arch
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i'm curious about velma's side special change

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i wanna see how far it goes

lavish berry
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Garnet getting armor back???

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hello??

earnest citrus
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How has the cult of Garnet been

earnest citrus
lavish berry
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Ground Side Attack 2 (Side)

+ Now applies armor on start-up
earnest citrus
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no more eating hits for free

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also link please

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where you see this

lavish berry
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They posted patch notes on twitter, always where you can see them first.

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They suck so bad at updating in the discord

earnest citrus
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lol

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it happens

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small team

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thank you

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Bro we got buffed

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LETS GO

lavish berry
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yeah, garnet gets massive improvements with this patch, not just her personal buffs, but just like, she benefits a lot from the overall movement tech too

signal dirge
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Well also stuff like. Shaggy kick no longer armor breaks

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We jerry_fist that

earnest citrus
signal dirge
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Same with all rage attacks btw

plucky cairn
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-Armor on Ground side attack 2
Garnet bros we are so back

signal dirge
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Can someone plz test if neutral punch still hits behind when they can

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They increased punch size

exotic hemlock
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maybe im just bad but a velma sauced me

signal dirge
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Velma is buffed rn

earnest citrus
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Did any of you guys figure out how to get the ground dodge to work?

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ik i'm like 2 seconds in but

signal dirge
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No way it used to hit behind

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Diagnol dodge towards the ground and it'll turn into a grounded dodge. Jump out of that. You keep the extra speed

earnest citrus
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hm

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i think i got that but can't seem to get it on platforms

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nvm

mild field
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The netcode made a huge difference holy shiz

earnest citrus
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it's a tap on the platform

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don't hold just tap towards it

signal dirge
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You'll Know cause you slide off. And yeah don't hold dodge anyways

earnest citrus
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nah i was holding the angle

signal dirge
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Ah

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Nice to know

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Before punch hit from behind alot

rough mason
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How we feel about the garnet buffs

earnest citrus
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W

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that's all

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W.

mild field
fluid trail
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HOLY NAIR BUFF IS INSANE

exotic hemlock
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feeling like steven but bigger

fluid trail
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actually

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they gave her steven nair but even bigger

signal dirge
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Wait nairs good again?

fluid trail
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nairs been good

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now its just absolutely broken

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might be a little hard for me to get used to but this is an amazing change

novel copper
signal dirge
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Nair being faster will go hard

exotic hemlock
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something to get used to

signal dirge
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Honestly if I can't punch behind I'd revert jerry_fist

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I'll get used to it easy

fluid trail
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they gutted finn good lord

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first online match against a finn this character is actually just little mac now

exotic hemlock
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superman is still annoying

novel copper
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I hope Zeekey will be okay

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๐Ÿ˜”

novel copper
earnest citrus
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Why no undead Garnet?

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Afterlife*

exotic hemlock
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he can no longer loop but

fluid trail
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i genuinely think finn is a dead character now

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nowhere near viable anymore

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these nerfs hit him way too hard

rough mason
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Is ground neutral actually good now

mild field
drowsy arch
fluid trail
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anyone that knows patience wont struggle against him anymore

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just run away till he stops charging

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punish the consistently timed whiff

lapis lynx
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Finally made it to masters

fluid trail
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congrats!!

lapis lynx
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Had to beat a master 1 morty for it

exotic hemlock
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playing garnet like joker is the best thing for my mental health

fluid trail
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thats not something i ever thought i'd hear anyone say

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garnets playstyle is hardly anything like jokers at all

fleet birch
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Does garnet feel slower now?

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I played her last night and it felt smooth and now its like so janky

fluid trail
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no

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she got buffed if anything

fleet birch
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weird

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like it felt so smooth yesterday but today i feel like shes just like dragging along

fluid trail
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nair got buffed significantly, jab 2 forward got armor, neutral grounded attack got buffed active frames, up air got a slight hitbox nerf

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she should be faster than before with the buffed nair

fleet birch
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weird

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did they remove TJ loop?

fluid trail
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no

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they supposedly nerfed it by adding the auto teching but i dont think it did much

fleet birch
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kinda dissapointing patch tbh

tiny comet
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Neutral punch enthusiast unite

crisp bronze
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I will be back in like 1,5 h

Will test it all

fluid trail
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finn is not meta anymore!!

lapis lynx
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Liking titan's tower so far too

drowsy arch
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nair buff feels pretty good ngl lol

fluid trail
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i was a nair abuser before but this will make it even worse

drowsy arch
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i know

drowsy arch
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this is crazy

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lol

fleet birch
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they keep saying stuff like theyre gonna make velma better

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but wont just overhaul stuff

drowsy arch
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what do u mean

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she got 2 new moves basically this patch

fleet birch
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Still not good though

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theres some good to come out of it tho

fluid trail
fleet birch
fluid trail
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velma didnt get buffed enough but her rework is a significant step in the right direction

tiny comet
fleet birch
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and shes still like F tier

tiny comet
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3 shaggies 1 garnet

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๐Ÿ˜’

fluid trail
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no one uses her and no ones pushing her meta

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devs dont know what needs changing

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this is their shot in the dark

tiny comet
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Nice to have a decent map

drowsy arch
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the top 5 velmas in masters are cooking. U guys don't even know

tiny comet
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Titans tower

drowsy arch
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u guys have no idea what velma cna do

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she's crazy before the patch

tiny comet
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One of em boosting @drowsy arch

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๐Ÿ˜

fleet birch
fluid trail
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velma in beta was just broken

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no dancing around that

fleet birch
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at least in some ways

fluid trail
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i hate it when people say "just revert to beta!!! its so much better!!!" beta died for a reason

fleet birch
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I mean she was missing an attack until now and its just not good

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Her megaphone takes too long to charge

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lack of combos

drowsy arch
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her megaphone is godlike rn

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as a recovery tool

tiny comet
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Tech roll game changer

fleet birch
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theres like no control of it tho

drowsy arch
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and she can ledge guard with it through the wall

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yes there is wtf?

tiny comet
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Low key a nerf for steven too

drowsy arch
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u can tilt it up and down

fleet birch
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yea thats it tho

trail jewel
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garnet got buffs? that's sick

fleet birch
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U cant angle it like in beta

tiny comet
drowsy arch
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god...

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i'm done xD

fleet birch
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ok bye

tiny comet
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Velma is good

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But for 2s

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๐Ÿ˜

exotic hemlock
#

this new nair is a great approach

fleet birch
exotic hemlock
#

tempted to spend 5 dollars rn for beetle

#

๐ŸŒš

golden sapphire
#

Just wait three days dude

fluid trail
#

yea

#

its not worth

exotic hemlock
lapis lynx
#

Got plenty of fighter currency saved up

crisp bronze
#

There is not more doomer chat than garnet one. I swear.
Our worst match ups got nerfed, we cant be comboed from ground, jab versus is nerfed, we got more movement tools AND some buffs on top of that.

exotic hemlock
#

do you gain rp if you concede in ranked?

wicked tusk
#

how's the buff from garnet?

tiny comet
#

Mid

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But armor slam

#

Even tho no one asked for it

drowsy arch
#

I used all 3 buffs in the match

lapis lynx
#

Nice to have beta slam back

tiny comet
#

Because it was the elephant in the room

drowsy arch
#

it just feels "right" that she has the armor back lool

lapis lynx
#

Yeah

drowsy arch
#

it's not really a buff.... it's just how it should have been lol

crisp bronze
#

i will bait with this move again

fluid trail
drowsy arch
#

it feels os good fross haha

#

i baited

#

the nair change feels crazy. So much faster

frozen iris
#

The Black Adam weight nerf is real. Dead at 80 with Sair, Upspecial ladder.

tiny comet
#

Ngl

drowsy arch
#

and the fact that nair can beat jabs now cuz of the jab changes

tiny comet
#

Neutral punch is so busted rn

lapis lynx
#

As it should be

frozen iris
lapis lynx
tiny comet
drowsy arch
#

neutral punch has a chonky hitbox and llingers more

tiny comet
#

Killed wowo at 70

fluid trail
#

garnet might be viable guys garnet might be actually viable

exotic hemlock
#

THE GARNET EMOTE IS BROKEN

drowsy arch
#

the car?

exotic hemlock
#

yeah

crisp bronze
#

She might be like top B/ low A now
From pure theory

exotic hemlock
#

amethyst is disfigured

fluid trail
frozen iris
#

How? I've been using it. It's my default win taunt.

fluid trail
#

post in clips chat

exotic hemlock
#

hold on

tiny comet
exotic hemlock
#

let me clip it

frozen iris
crisp bronze
#

Well
Im in home in 30 minutes

Testing will be daily

exotic hemlock
#

imma send a youtube link

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i love nair

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itโ€™s easy for combos

fluid trail
#

nair is like

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the goto combo starter

crisp bronze
#

Nair was my bane of existance in mirror
Will be even more now

crisp bronze
#

Probably will now abuse it to

exotic hemlock
#

i rarely use car only finger wag

fluid trail
#

why is she backwards

tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

Im using whacky dance
Its most taunting

exotic hemlock
#

idk lmfaoo

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is it worth buying the flashback garnet with the goofy dance for 860

tiny comet
#

Nair > dair

exotic hemlock
#

i think i might wait for a legendary garnet skin

tiny comet
#

jerry_fist > armor slam

crisp bronze
#

This Goofy ahh dance is taunting as hell

novel copper
#

It'll definitely be Future Garnet

tiny comet
#

@novel copper i pulled it off getting jerry_fist buffed

tiny comet
#

MadAdam moreeeee

lapis lynx
crisp bronze
#

As rare skin ok

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But nothing more than this

wicked tusk
novel copper
buoyant shuttle
#

off the top of my head the only legendary i could think of would be uhhhhh

#

whats her name the gold antagonist from the mobile game

#

whos a tyoe of garnet

fluid trail
#

nair is great because you can make people afraid of it only to catch their dodge through if you have the read

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read tool, huge hitbox, combostarter, can kill

crisp bronze
#

Nair can be now best move next to shoulder

lapis lynx
#

Yes

fluid trail
#

nair is better than shoulder

#

way better in neutral

exotic hemlock
fluid trail
#

shoulder is too punishable by comparison, nairs huge hitbox and relatively low whiff frames make it insanely awkward to punish on whiff

crisp bronze
#

Nah
For me its defensive tools for disengage and read tool
And shoulder is ofensive one for combos and approche

crisp bronze
#

As i said

#

Both moves are at the same level for me

fluid trail
exotic hemlock
#

wait why is garnet actually fun to play now

fluid trail
#

honestly i'd argue shoulder bash isnt the greatest move on earth outside of combos, its an okay burst option but its really punishable on whiff

exotic hemlock
#

if they made her star a large duration omg

crisp bronze
#

Btw
How is wave dashing guys?

#

Its worth using

#

?

fluid trail
#

havent tried it yet

crisp bronze
#

Hmmm

#

Will try it

#

Every movement tool on ground is godly thing for garnet

fluid trail
#

potentially massive for the morty matchup

crisp bronze
#

Btw
Someone labed if she have new combos with nair?

#

Its 3 frames faster tho

fluid trail
#

she doesnt

tiny comet
#

All the same

#

Better to edge guard tho

crisp bronze
#

In brawlhalla some 2 frame changes could change character from c tier to a

tiny comet
#

jerry_fist > everything else

#

Dodge sair is op now

fluid trail
#

i'll lab combos when im home but i doubt there are any new nair combos

tiny comet
#

Like op op

#

Hog going to have a field day

crisp bronze
#

Anyway
Cant wait to Play
And destroy everyone

tiny comet
#

jerry_fist get back foul beast

crisp bronze
#

Is nlight change that much noticable?

tiny comet
#

The way i use it yes

#

Others idk

exotic hemlock
#

funny how i said garnet is actually fun and get cheesed by finn

#

i just want beetlejuice

fluid trail
#

they basically removed his 0td

#

how u still gettin cheesed

exotic hemlock
#

i could clip the match he kept doing his 0to death

#

i kept dodging out but his teleport kept connecting

novel copper
exotic hemlock
#

yโ€™all make me feel stupid

fleet birch
tiny comet
#

๐Ÿซ‚

#

Garnet still thicc

crisp bronze
#

Ok
In home
Teeeeest tiiiiiime

lavish berry
#

The real question will be if Arya is still just as broken and annoying to deal with. I'm glad they addressed finn

crisp bronze
#

I wonder how good wave dash into dash cancel fair is

novel copper
crisp bronze
#

I think like 150 from middle vs garnet

lavish berry
#

yeah, that's cool, but will it still be impossible to approach her

crisp bronze
#

Still hard match up
But you will have more chances to Play vs

lavish berry
#

hoping the movement changes give me some more options to actually move against her

crisp bronze
#

Btw
How is net code?

lavish berry
#

havent played yet

#

wont be able to play today

tiny comet
#

Eh 50/50

#

I blue screen 3 times of 12 games

lavish berry
#

thank god they're addressing the downair spamming batmans. super annoying to go against

tiny comet
#

Rifts rewards event is bugged also

crisp bronze
#

They will probably hotfix some things

#

Tommorow

lavish berry
#

stripe could also become a menace with this patch

exotic hemlock
#

ayoo we climbing finally

#

garnet doesnโ€™t feel sluggish anymore

crisp bronze
#

But...movement wise almost nothing changed in theory

lavish berry
#

Velma changes are pretty intriguing too. Kinda wanna try her out

rigid storm
#

Donโ€™t

frozen iris
hushed needle
#

garnet armor back let's go

exotic hemlock
#

finn still hard to fight idk about yโ€™all

tiny comet
#

Use the fist

#

And down attack

#

Not in that order of course

exotic hemlock
#

WE CLIMBING

tiny comet
tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

Well
Time for me to hop on game too i guess

#

Need to test changes

tiny comet
#

Dont do it

#

Its a trap

frozen iris
crisp bronze
#

Finn was already as +1 match up for me

#

Bro will be sended to +2 probably

frozen iris
fleet birch
#

Hes always gonna be a little difficult because hes the polar opposite to garnet

#

But if u get decent with dodging it becomes pretty easy

crisp bronze
#

He cant hold moves after changes tho

#

He is much easier

exotic hemlock
#

beetle juice is too tanky

fleet birch
frozen iris
#

I don't think he's too crazy so far. I do think once people learn that beetle movement, he could be a problem.

novel copper
#

oof, servers are starting to cave in

#

I can't even get in now

fleet birch
#

same

novel copper
#

shame 'cause I was right in the middle of stomping a Joker/Adam duo

#

Adam just kept clapping and getting punished for it

true fiber
#

People are saying hotfix

tiny comet
#

All finns get dogged by me

#

Patch day is always like this

#

(No surprise)

exotic hemlock
#

i just want him rn

tiny comet
#

A wild hog appears

toxic walrus
#

At least I got to play for a bit.

tiny comet
toxic walrus
#

Run it, full send it even.

exotic hemlock
#

of course some mf spends 30 dollars just to play passive with beetlejuice

toxic walrus
#

lol

#

lmao even

tiny comet
#

I got gems for it but i can just wait f that

frozen iris
#

I refuse to spend a character ticket when I have 40k fighter currency gathering dust.

tiny comet
#

Exactly

exotic hemlock
#

got paired up with a diamond 3 superman using beetlejuice

#

i need to get better

buoyant shuttle
#

im glad they seemingly keep giving garnet new voice lines

novel copper
#

I fought one Beetlejuice in 2s and he just kept spamming the air side special

#

๐Ÿ˜ฌ

#

if that's how people are gonna approach with him then the next few days are gonna be very annoying

tiny comet
#

Assassin be sliding

#

How was the beetle juice passive

#

3 hits is crazy for free extra hit

novel copper
tiny comet
#

O.o

buoyant shuttle
#

i feel like it might be funny with the stun perk and pre-charging it

exotic hemlock
#

itโ€™s so easy to pre charge it

tiny comet
#

How is static electricity still in the game

#

Static electricity is the dr pepper in irl

#

Whos keeping this company afloat these ninjas money laundering

fleet birch
#

beetlejuice is fun but hard to hit

exotic hemlock
#

dr pepper is good though

tiny comet
exotic hemlock
#

i love it

novel copper
#

if you say so

tiny comet
#

Next you going to say you like arbyโ€™s

burnt summit
#

is this true

tiny comet
burnt summit
#

i like arby's

#

its really good

crisp bronze
#

holy

#

wave dash seems important

#

to learn

tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

YES
IT IS IMPORTANT

tiny comet
#

Mostly true and sometimes after bash characters sometimes go left instead of going right in d.i

signal dirge
#

Ugghhh I don't want people slingshottinf at me at mach 5

#

Dodgeversus

tiny comet
#

Which is why i up attack vs small characters and air upspecial vs tank characters

#

That sair wave dash is devious

#

Have to

crisp bronze
#

amount of fcking mind games you can do with these wave dashes

#

wtf

tiny comet
#

Plus it cost less resources

signal dirge
#

Sobbing rn

#

No actual gameplans. Just react to stupid crazy movement

#

Not everyone wants to play Arya

crisp bronze
signal dirge
#

Exactly. So don't make new changes to the base movement.

tiny comet
#

Iโ€™ll play arya right now

signal dirge
#

Slowing the game down was the best thing to happen to mvs

#

If they keep going the other way it's just gonna be annoying button mashing where framedata is king

#

Which is already why people dislike the high tiers

crisp bronze
#

nah
it actualy helps characters with bad frame data xd

#

you have better aproche with things like garnet jab

signal dirge
#

It gives characters with faster dodges way more tho. Agent Smith is gonna be. So annoying

tiny comet
#

T typing too fast with how excited he is

#

๐Ÿ˜

signal dirge
#

Amd the faster dodges is usually on characters w faster movement

crisp bronze
#

i like new toys to play with

signal dirge
#

I'd like those toys to be garnet specific

#

I like the base game.

tiny comet
#

But tea

crisp bronze
#

also
nair change is devious

holy
its fast af

tiny comet
#

Dont run out of stamina

signal dirge
#

See that I like

tiny comet
#

That delaaaay

#

๐Ÿ˜

crisp bronze
#

jumping right after slide

#

taking half of the meter

#

๐Ÿ’€

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

signal dirge
#

At what point can we just sit with the mechanics we have

tiny comet
#

Armor slam neat

signal dirge
#

Like new gamemodes. Rule updates. How ranks work

#

Cool

#

But core gameplay?

tiny comet
#

Nair setups better frames neat

#

But neutral punch

crisp bronze
tiny comet
#

The holy grail

signal dirge
#

Skittles does the punch Still hit from behind

#

Someone said no earlier

tiny comet
#

I test it

crisp bronze
#

and nerfs of top tiers mattered
joker players in shambles

tiny comet
#

I hit a batman earlier

signal dirge
#

Making things faster and faster isn't more skill expressive it's just reflex tests

crisp bronze
#

jab is like half of its pre nerf lenght

#

๐Ÿ’€

signal dirge
#

The jab change is great

#

That's helping skill expression

#

You actually have a reason to anti air

crisp bronze
tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

if you a bit more picky
its gaming equivalent of height in basketball

signal dirge
#

Reaction time tests are just ablist

#

Equally so

crisp bronze
#

some people just have a bit faster reaction

signal dirge
#

You're right

#

I have hnpp

#

I can actually feel a small delay from me wanting to hit a button or a key and my finger actually starting moving

#

The slow gameplay let's me strategize

#

I'll be forced into Jason or ig

crisp bronze
#

versus is still slow fighter
even with this xd

signal dirge
#

Good. But for how long

#

If they keep this trend up

#

Then it will be a mess lile the nick game

crisp bronze
#

i dont think they will increse speed even more

tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

i like the more agressive approche to the game that devs forcing a bit

#

GAME IS A BIT TOO PASSIVE OK??

signal dirge
#

The nick game gas so much tech and skill expression. It's fast paced

#

And it's not passive

tiny comet
#

But if the person attack hitboxes is large enough from behind itโ€™ll trade too

signal dirge
#

But it sucks

crisp bronze
#

anyway

#

i just found out you can sair in the middle of slide

#

holy

signal dirge
#

So do you think it's a buff still?

crisp bronze
#

seems good

#

slide made me lab

#

yes

#

xD

signal dirge
#

Slide of plat sair will be nasty

#

I mean the hitbox shift on neutral punch

#

The dodge slide is fine.

#

Keeping your momentum after jumping out of it

#

No

#

Sliding off of plats and reversing your slide is fine

#

Also yeah you can reverse the slide

crisp bronze
#

reverse jab after slide

#

is cool

signal dirge
#

Weird

crisp bronze
#

that delay after slide will make it balanced

#

bcs you have to sacrifice 3 bars

#

if you want to do something more than slight dash

#

wait

#

is slide dtilt faster than normal

#

hold on

#

btw

#

BURNOUT STATE IS SO SCARY NOW

#

like

#

menagment will be so important

tiny comet
#

So

fleet birch
#

just 1v1 a velma she is still horrible

crisp bronze
tiny comet
#

When/who we fightin

#

๐Ÿ˜

#

Exhibition

fluid trail
#

i just had an agent smith di out of sair 1 into jab like 10 times in a match and fall out of jab 3 times

#

please fix garnet

#

ffs

fleet birch
tiny comet
#

Neutral punch hit box top of hat or hair to her thighs

toxic walrus
#

@vast yoke gl hf

#

GG!

signal dirge
#

I just watched those fights

#

I wanted to see yall sliding again

crisp bronze
#

slide dash attack is for now my favorite thing with this tech

lapis lynx
fleet birch
fluid trail
#

what tech

lapis lynx
#

Unrelated but I noticed the garnet icon no longer has a toothy smile

tiny comet
crisp bronze
lapis lynx
fluid trail
#

dodge lands?

crisp bronze
#

ye
its called wave dash in most games

fluid trail
#

can you cancel wavedash into attacks?

toxic walrus
fleet birch
crisp bronze
#

but it cost more

fluid trail
#

ehh

#

you dont keep enough momentum from falling off platforms with it

#

at least not as garnet

crisp bronze
#

i just used it a bit vs superman

#

holy

#

its so good

loud light
lapis lynx
#

Thanks Zeekey garnet_excited

loud light
#

No problemo coolrick

crisp bronze
#

YOOO

#

slides make her mobile

#

no way

#

she no longer block of concree on the ground

loud light
#

Garnet might be the queen of indirect buffs this patch

toxic walrus
#

It's first day of a new patch.

#

Let's calm down.

hushed needle
#

perchance

vast yoke
#

that was my first game today

toxic walrus
#

damn lol

#

rough warmup

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿฆ†

signal dirge
#

Dodge away reverse slide jab will space hard on retreat

toxic walrus
#

Boys...

#

We getting close to Grandmaster.

tiny comet
#

Armor slam is a lie

#

Young metro

signal dirge
#

Does it not work?

tiny comet
#

Its weird

signal dirge
#

NOOO

#

WHY

#

Seems to work for me

#

I'm diagnol dodging into a grounded dodge. Still doesn't feel much faster

#

Also I won't be playing wall but just hovering in the air

#

You still get 2 jumps up airs 2 specials. Just hover

#

Plat forms send her flying tho

#

Wall nerf doesn't mean much

crisp bronze
#

THESE BATMAN MAINS TRYING TO CANCEL DIVE KICK

#

AHAHAHAHAHA

signal dirge
#

Are they not allowed to cancel it anymore?

crisp bronze
#

funniest thing ever

#

YES

lapis lynx
#

Lool

#

No more relying on dive kick

signal dirge
#

Now that's nair is good

#

Nair sair 1 jab leaves most the cast able to be hit by up special jab again

#

Wait. But the jab isn't true?

#

What's garnets fastest move to hit in jab range

#

Is upspecial not actually true into anything at the earliest hit?

crisp bronze
signal dirge
#

Lowkey can't get upspecial to combo into anything if it hits on its few first active frames

#

Honestly the platforms are the biggest part

#

Look at the momentum you get sliding off edge with the grounded slide

#

Fross you hafta use that that's all your playstyle

crisp bronze
#

but its kinda hard to push new thing into gameplay while mussle memory is already builded up

pastel torrent
#

How does your chat have 25k messages

exotic hemlock
#

garnet deserves that afterlife skin

lapis lynx
exotic hemlock
#

grinded rifts only to buy stevens skin