#Garnet
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Womp womp
????
If the strong stuff is fun keep it. If it's not kill it.
Who cares about skill imput
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bro should not design competetive games
bro hit wall hard today or what
thats your vision of it
you have tourneys in this games
even if community
its competetive game
especialy with rankeds
The Devs want competitiveness
Exactly. Let them sit in their own basements
People optimize mario kart
I understand these people will exist no matter what
ye
BCS ITS COMPETETIVE GAME TOO
and let them suffer with a broken gimmicky ass competitive game?
you rivaling other players
Yes
Any game is competitive if people take it that way
There's a comp scene for shoots and ladders
And so it doesn't matter how the game is if it's fun
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bro
back to smash and have problems with steve
like
how is this competetive?
I did take that game seriously. Left with this view on competition in general
It's annoying at best
its a fighting game
Yeah. A gane
Game
They are equally annoying
everywhere when even slightiest sign of competetivnes exist people will min max
So making the min and max closer together should help alleviate
Or making things so busted that no one takes it seriously
Which trying or not. Is what pfg does
if they do they will nerf it a bit
Lets nerf agent smith dair por favor
True
I agree for both. The gun is stronger than dair tho
Why does it snuff projectiles
It just shouldn't
Neat garnet skin
A free garnet avatar
Pirate skin? Like from the history episodes?
Oh yeah exactly that omd
Untill they have king garnet tho wedding stays on
Which is a leaked skin
From the birthday episode
Battle pass 6/10
olimpic skins
Neat
I can't watch it fully I'll just see tomorrow
Cyber skins look cool
Does garnet get one?
Honestly I hope jack pulls in all the comp garnet mains so the trolls can live here
Getting close to the patch notes
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Rick and morty mech skins in presitge store
Gundam mech type
Ww 1984 skin looks clean
Leaderboards should be coming back for ranked
Nice. I wonder how ill place playing casual
I'll be using troll tactics ans never sitting up
It's working garnets moving down the totem
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Protect the 
Damn can only get jack through buying the battle pass
Damn no patch notes
Just gotta wait for in the discord i guess
Sheesh
Garnet's skin from BP was really cool, but i also want Garnet's neon skin
Both :3
Sadly they didn't showed more detail about cyber event, we'll find out at that day
I have come, as a new Garnet user, to submit myself to the wisdom of my fellows
Punch em into the dirt
hopefully garnet gets a decent buff! i'm still tryna figure out me proper main but still
I can whoop your ass to give you some knowlage
Knowing pfg we will get change that at fact is a nerf
As i said
Give me faster start ups or end lags
And im fine
When are these patches notes
Oh I do
Might even need a nerf
*fixed a hitbox issue where garnets grounded neutral attack would hit behind her
I belive in dash shield break next time i will Play vs you
Actually
I can trade shield break or not
Take that risk if you want
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Never
If they actually fixed that and none of the others I'd be maldinv
Jack looks so strong
What does garnet do against this.
Do we just get walled out? Use projectiles to approach?
he will get nerfed like 4 times
he cant exist in this state
it will be joker incident all over
I think regardless of what we want. The new character will always be strong
xd
Smith joker and Jack are all strong / busted
makes sense
Money
making games is buisnes
no wae
And some characters are just more healthy to be good than others
imagine Jason beinjg good
TRUE
People don't get that
sadly he is good
When I said. Let strong things stay strong if they are good
**fun
I meant like I'd much rather Arya and Harley be good then morty ig
well depends. You gotta shake things up
Yeah but if I enter a LeBron meta I'm
ing myself
Even Cringy unpopular picks can be cool for a CERTAIN while
nah
I prefer to play aginst 10 morties than face 3 aryas in a row
Hot take. Why?
I think Morty is alright. Sure he is annoying but not in a unhealthy way
Arya beats up Garnet
hard
god i hate Aryas Down attack
Morty is worse against garnet since garnet punishes him well
But I think he's better on average than Arya
if arya whiff you get punish for being to stupid to understand that you will get punish for trying to punish her
Yeah you hafta clash with her
hes not
sadly garnet has no moves to do that
Down attack sucks and side attack is to slow
ig,arya and then morty
she can dodge through gauntlet
i mean
dodging her attacks is not that much of a problem
problem is you cant touch her if she whiff
bcs WHY NOT
i personally havent found a neutral tool which is consistently good against her. I always need to hard read her approches
She won't get hit unless you clash.
dlight bait is decent
nlight sometimes work
edgeguard is like 5% of this game
it doesnt matter
most of the time
as i said
arya is unplayable match up for garnet
its her only -3 match up
UN
PLAY
ABLE
cant really say anything to that
i dont play against good people anymore
only a couple of Quickplay matches
I mean yeah. But I never came to garnet to fight gods
im meeting good people even on quickplay
yesterday i meet g3 and bobo in a row
xd
Im constantly playing against people with 2k + wins
I don't think I've paid attention to who I fight
i do
bcs known nick will play much diffrent than average joe
Jack farms half the cast imo
whos jack
Samurai jack
stupid to say it now. he isnt even out yet
That's why it's just my opinion
mayby he will have absurd end lag
and sudently he d tier
even best character can be destroyed by bad frame data
I mean I'm rewatching the stream and it doesn't look it
He does seem well telegraphed outside his normals and aerials
idk
i will give him few rounds
i loved samurai jack
it was goated cartoon
one of the few that didnt treet kid like an despicable me enjoyer
i mean
i dont even play garnet for my adoration of the show
it was allright
and garnet was my favorite
but i just like her gameplay
I play garnet cause I like garnet
as agressive brawler
I still think garnet is about snuffing out approaches more but you clearly have had more success

still
best cartoon ever made is avatar
and dont try to argue about it
im the exact opposite
I adore steven universe. Tis my favorite cartoon
i only started playing garnet because of the show
Likewise
I'd be on bugs rn or rick
If I wasn't so into steven universe
Rick seems the most fun to lab and bugs seems the most fun for my playstyle
I'm a casual who just gets decent because I play alot
But I never like. Sit up and lean forward to play or look at frame data
I don't like the garnet ditto. Just turns into clashes
i mean
show was ok
when it hit it hits
but then you had steven being the most unsufferable thing alive
ah yeah thats something i hear a lot
i adored garnet bc she was a gem who i would've loved to see in playable form but like
i didnt mind him. i just thought that he is a 10 year old kid so its fine
In season 1 sure. But he's also a random kid. Also finn and teen titans go were like 2x as annoying imo
it's hard playing as her when she's too honest compared to others
but in Multiversus its different
idk why
but looking at steven makes me mad?
annoyed? idk what it is
i think it's like... the s1 characterization done by a soundalike trying to phone it in
he should be a teenager steven. i think i just cant see him as a child anymore
Finn took forever to finally like.
And it's because it's back to season 1 steven. But with the confidence of modern steven
Like if kid steven was as confident as he is in future he'd be utterly annoying
the only reason garnet's the post-regen design is bc the writer of this game said they got in riiiight after Jailbreak
concept art even had her in her season 1 design
so it's like... v much their characterization
I mean yeah. Then they tried to take their average later in the line
Like garnets practically a static character
Steven is unrecognizable
Garnet learns to forgive things and to confront the future
Steven is a whole new man in future
Why does garnet feel different everytime I play her lol
True
That's mostly because garnet can be played 100 ways
She's so fundamentals based
Its not just that its also like some days my attacks seem to connect really well
but like today i had a batman where i swear every hit just went thru him
It wasnt even that
Multiversus hitboxes
It was just like my attacks didnt work
Like it was going good yesterday
And then today it just like doesnt feel like it wants to work
Batman pulls back their hurt boxes during alot of his attacks
its called shape of the day
i can hit 3 reads in in one combo into perfect finish in one day
How long do you think untill people learn how to di garnet
Hear me out I think my garnets tweaking
with amount of players garnet have?
like 3 years
Turning into a dog from Rick or Jojo is optimal cause then you can spam the taunt noise as much as you want with troll tactics
Wdym
who said they wanted to fight me yesterday
So. New Garnet skin
@crisp bronze you got until 10PM before i call it a night
Been faithful with her too much to let go ๐
i don't wanna but maaaan... idk if she's my right playstyle now, i've been loyal to her since alpha
What does the most damage out of jab 1 btw
I've just been down jabbjng everything
Nair sair 1 jab my beloved
W and without cooldowns if known
Its probably jab 1 into clap counting the electric damage after
Down jab for sure is the most damaging followup after jab with no cooldowns
Okay just checked jab1 into down jab does 13 which is highest out of all the other jab routes and jab into clap does 16 which is the most of all follow ups
40-60
Especially vs jason bg ig and some other tanks
i think she might end up on the pocket list sometime if there aren't any improvements to her come season 2. i haven't felt myself right when playing her and i think i need someone i feel like i can have fun with, something that clicks in my interests
feel like at the end of the day i want to make sure i'm having fun while still being capable
she's still fun in her own right to me tho :)
I wanna see every Garnet here make it to Master Rank
no ifs ands or buts
I believe in us


Garnet isn't a main. I just picked her up since I might as well complete the Steven Universe Collection
I meant Garnet mains, it's implied.
I assumed so but as a Steven Player I'll try my best!
Fck
I was sleeping
Ping me next time when you free ๐
Did she get buffed recently? Was playing as her doing the 1v1 missions and was doing pretty good! Got 4 wins in a row against a Finn (a competent one who get combo and juggle me) so that felt good.
she didn't
she was always playable
whereee patch nooootes
Probs in a few minutes
Ping me when its out
Poor local man learns about time zones
wait nvm LOL
It's to early for this
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Can't wait for patch
I might just take a nap until they drop
I got kicked from a match then couldnt play for 10 minutes idk why
Garnet mains are the protagonists. We are getting to masters
Time to get my su Playlist in spotify
I mean yeah. Amalgam goes super hard
Who we are gets me hyped
Stronger than you is obvious
thats the only one i can stand
I typically loop like 4-5 songs
id get sick of it by the first 3 seconds ngl
I love good compositions and well thought out music
I'm a music nerd so I love seeing how things work together
Nonetheless. Amalgam isn't a lyrics song. Just really good background music
unpopular opinion
theres like 4-5 good songs in the show
and most are from the movie
The movie did have goated music. But all the songs are atleast above other cartoons. Adventure time fans are tripping I swear
I think that's a hot take tho you're right
If there's one thing su did objectively correct it's the music
It's hard to think of anyone getting close cartoon wise
avatar >>>
Secret tunnel? Isn't that the only song they have lmao
Like is there anything else in the ost?
I've watched it front to back and I can't remember any
Oh leaves from the vind
Yeah they are good in context but less than mid out of it
That was just tribal drums and random instruments sounding off in c
bought garnet! any basic tips/ stuff i should know??

Sounds like you want me to install raid shadow legendz
Atleast there was a bit more going on here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nmwZZPKvyA and this is korra version
probably best one
but ye
atla probably didnt had that good music
I can get just liking the sound font more. But there like 0 composition
Tribal drums just also aren't my thing
I like clean cut music with contrast
listen to this one i send
is the best one i send from these 3
I listened. It's just strings now. I don't get where your going with any of this
I think you like the ambiance and sound font and that's all you really care about.
Which is fine
But that makes things hard to discuss outside subjectivity
Punch them into the dirt
Open with Nair sair jab 1 down jab
Listen to this song
That's just tool
Totally outside of the discussion
No steven universe music doesn't outclass most actual songs made by known musicians
Unless you just wanted the. Who are you to wave your finger line. Then. Just a guy who plays piano basically
But I guess that makes me equally qualified to discuss taste as top players are to discuss balance
I know I love tool ๐
Pppffftttt
I mean u gotta admit theyโre good
They are good. Not really my style but all the pieces are there and the music is good
I have my personal taste and my more objective view on what a song does
Only thing i can't lower my bias for is country and ghetto rap.
lol
Garnet buffs we pray
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1.5 hours
Honestly. Make clap quicker to be a consistent prayer kill move
And I'm hapoy
Yes ik just sair jab into it but like. Plz
clap is not a problem tho
Clap is a problem tho Fross, I have it drop constantly on characters that aren't named Garnet.
First hit lands and doesn't suction into the second hit.
idk
my drops like 1/20
It drops alot
Or the hit just doesn't do anything at like 130 and sends them standing next to you
Or they just get flung waay past the finisber
Or they just. Clash with hit one and get put in perfect spot to Nair you
Clap being more consistent might not raise her tier but be a wonderful quality change to all garnets
@crisp bronze Notes are out
where
well thats incomplete then lmao
Yea
That's just not correct lmao
Can we really be surprised?
Classic pfg
It's mvs
Hey man at least they're not destroying the entire internet
Will probably Play this
Yet
Fross, I will wash you in 2XKO when it comes out.
I grew up on MvC2.
It's in my blood.
I have like 5 hours in mortal combat X
And like an 10 in Tekken 5 when i was 12 yo
From classic fighters
You dont stand a chance

Probably will get folded
Ngl xD
Traditional fighters have always been my jam.
Im fast learner tho
Someone asked me to buy Guilty gear strive
I can sudently pop off after few games
So I did, and suffered
I played mk X
And played few random matches
Was funny to get 15 hit combo from Scorpion
Who needs big combos when you have grappler ๐
I played jade in Mk
Idk if it tells you something
It doesn't
I play Zangief and Chun Li in SF6, Master with both around 1650 LP.
Best of both worlds.
Bruh
Pot fans scare me.
Im good at platform fighters
I almost didnt touch traditional ones
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Ehhh
THIS DEEEEEV
Give us complete patch notes or I riot.
I have beef
It's that simple.
With them
Game is unplayable if you not playing ig,arya or morty
And they think that not realeasing patch is good idea
Yea, cause server is down lmao
Yeah I need the balance changes
Bcs it seems like it will be biggest fighter that ever released
Last time riot released the game valorant had 2,5 mln people watching on Twitch
To gain keys
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garnet buff is garbage the unlocked jump is good for combos tho
@tiny comethttps://multiversus.com/en/news/2-0-season-2-patch-notes
It makes the full charge up light usable
ok so i clicked the link again and now im getting an error so i think the site is dying due to overload
but thats the link in either case lol
It can be usefull after parry
It is not big tho
Big is that arya goes another patch without proper nerfs
Its fcking insane
it was already usable it even has a combo ender for it not fully charged
i was expecting them to fix atleast 1 bug
Inconsistant clap
Jab hitting 1 frame and not hitting after
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At least ig get proper treatment
Rebuffing charged up attack is hilarious
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Cant wait for someone try to parry and i charge up attack instead
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Ground to jump momentum change can be interesting
i hope it feels disjointed atleast
With up tilt shoulder
Well
They nerfed a lot of top characters and trying to make game less campy
Its not the worst patch
Could be better
But its decent
so like... are these patches better for garnet or?
the jump is the only good buff for garnet
ok good bc i'm actively trying to avoid wanting to learn someone else rn til agent smith is obtainable for me
Morty buffs is wild
I mean
Full up charge will kill at like 50
i don't want to end up maining someone i hate bc their kit gels with me
Idk about 50โฆ
Like with garnet up jab

They buffed base knockback
Knockback scaling
And it will send verticaly
I think you can full charge it after parry so
Mayby its a move you should use after it
Hmmn is it usefull to throw out in twos tho
Assassins maybe but tanks no way
Catching people on plats is neat
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Im talking lights
Also what moves momentum does the jump buff help
Tanks 80 is reasonable too
yea marvin is a homerun at 50 full charge
If you Play agro
Yes
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I wonder how it will work with shoulder
Bcs you can tilt it up from the ground
Yeah shoulder stops your momentum and down b stops u at the end
On the ground atleast
Ye
But if you tilt it
Up
Ground does not stop you
And its like you are using it in the air
But then you'll slow before you hit ground. It would hafta stop right before you hit ground I think?
From air down angled
No
This move sends you in the air
You stop animation in the air
But you need to tilt it up
I thought the jump thing is when you land with momentum and immediately jump you maintain momentum
No it's ground momentum into a jump.
I don't think shoulder bash is a jump but jumping out of it maybe?
I don't think shoulderbashing up from a grounded state applies the momentum boost but maybe jumping out of one?
What if you use marker to place a star way outside garnets range so it cancels on the ground still in motion and jump?
That'd be interesting to check, but VERY niche uses.
I like funny gimmicks
Maybe this will make up special in air carry forward more
Which might actually have some applications as a burst kill option from afar
I think Last Stand being nerfed will full cement me into movespeed.
Bout damn time
With the jump buff as well I think this could be big.
Troll tactics bb
Same
But its nerfed
Won't stop me fully from using Last Stand tho. Match up dependent now.
Air platform is the most fun of the middle perks by far
Use air walker just to 
You lose 40% of the perk
3 stacks of weaken still improves kill % significantly.
Especially on light matchups.
Arya, Harley, etc.
Just don't get hit. :^)
I always liked it vs bruisers or tanks
Up tilt final hit goes alot higher through plats. Might get it off from tricking that
Regardless, full send uptilt is a welcome change.
I think it was big dumb clap killed earlier.
It gaves same energy as
How to counter arya
Ye
Just parry her : D
I'd rather have clap kill even earlier
It kills at 80 vs lights from the ground guys
Like
Just make it consistant
Doesn't need more power, just make it consistent
Yeaah. That's more what I want aswell
I've said before. Armor if the first hit hits and hitbox consistency
Oooh, armor on confirmed hit would be lit for 2v2s as well.
Down air this arya
Arya cant find inner peace ๐โโ๏ธ
That's nice to hear
I'll take it lol.
Now just give me the god damn dtilt cancel back and I'm good.
I'd be happy with that.
Oh
You could cancel it?
In beta.
That would be so nice
Ye
I played beta but that was so long ago I remember nothing really
It'd fix all the issues I have with it currently.
Honestly. Can't it hit just a little off the ground?
Force an approach with dtilt charge, cancel it, and then read their option.
Anyway
They nerfed a lot of characters, they buffed us and they rewarding more agressive playstyle
BEHOLD MORTALS
YOU ARE NOT READY FOR ME
Ha. I'm ready.
If garnet does have new momentum options with this burst pressure might be her new final form
Gonna get back to work and play a bit when I get back home before going to the national park.
She had a lot of momentum tools already
If it will be noticable change
She can change into momentum demon
Yeah. Burst movement combined with better airspeed will make her fatal. And sairs will connect into eachother at higher percents
Well
We will see
wait what is this buff lol
And sairs always conects
Idk who trying to gaslight that sair into sair 2 is not consistant
No I mean untrue strings. Just sair 12 sair 12 for pressure
Sair drops sometimes into itself but that's typically when your fastfalling
clap untouched
interesting
its over
but why reward offensive playstyles more?
The top tiers are defensive rn
i personally thought that defensive options sucked ass
Bcs meta is turbo passive.?
didnt play for like 3-4 weeks
Can wall you out easy run away
Punishing is very very easy
And aproching not so much
Characters like morty and arya literaly was waiting entire game for your move
Arya above joker imo
but then why buff offensive options?
He was waiting to just jab you
Rather than changing the meta
Bcs 90% of characters are better playing passive
ima trust you on this one i have no clue
Morty can pepper you while running away all game and kill you off a jab if you approach
wait why wasnt Arya nerfed
Tbh the only characters that want to Play offensive are Batman and mayby ig
Same question
From anyone
At least true combo with platform is dead
They love their Marth
And agressive playstyle buff is indirect nerf to her too
Marth is atleast cool
Fixed an issue where a fighter undergoing extremely high knockback would not be knocked away.
Arya is REALLY stressful as garnet because of garnets ASS hitboxes
Clap now works at 180?
people are going under or through my jab
Dtilt
dtilt is ass
Its not even that
Problem is arya have bullshitt end lag frames
And you nearly cant punish her
But why did Garnets FULL CHARGE up tilt get a buff?
why arent they decreasing the charge time
Bcs it was useless
its still useless
yeah
Not as much
Beta buffs
its useless because you cant even throw it out
lowkey needs to be reworked into clap
You van use it as suprise tool
And after parry you will kill with it at 50
hm parry hitstun can be pretty long maybe you are cooking
Same now
Ig nerfs are good

Ye
Ig get junked
Deserved
never played against a good one but he must have been annoying and cheesy
happy for yall
And jeez
War crimes
Air Neutral Attack 2 is now Air Neutral Attack, Neutral Special Follow-Up
~ Input requirements changed to neutral special after air neutral attack
~ Using this attack consumes one air special
- Now launches Jake upwards and forwards
~ Now only hits one time - Knockback increased to 2100 from 1000
- Knockback scaling increased to 18 from 10
~ Knockback angle made more horizontal - Hitbox size increased
This jake buff
Lets see firstly how good the Ranked System is
Ptsd
idk how good that one was
So idk how it was
if its ass i wont play again xD
but honestly making a ranked system for fighting games 1v1
cant be hard right?
The ranked system can literally just be a number with the word ranked and I'll be happy
Bro
Without shielded move you are like crab without claws
guys what happend with WW
Nerfed
but was she a problem?
Tht new tech

Hmm
Why tho
Its annoying as hell
Balancing it with a cooldown was lazy af
Why did stripe get all nerfs lmaoo
She will change from shielded brawler to spam lasso to make opening
its relatively laggy and not that fast
Repeat-move lockout increased to 8 frames from 0 frames
โ On-whiff cancel window delayed 8 frames
and that
But did t&j get a nerf
Air Up Attack
โ Sweetspot removed
This sweetspot was misconfigured and near-impossible to hit. Tom & Jerryโs air up attack was already strong without the sweetspot so the sweetspot has been removed
Air Up Special
- Now launches Tom higher on start-up
He was not a problem
why did people want him nerfed?
The sweet spot never hit so it's not really a nerf. Just removing a not working intended feature
At the same time
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I've never gotten hit by it atleast
I see i see
I will be spamming up tilt to check to see if my opponent has braincells
Tf you have with t&j
They are not even strong
TNT is strong
Jerry is strong
And paddle is ok
That alls
Yuk
I think in 2s if you find time to throw it out you might be gambling like a 20% chance of a way easier stock
Because it was ass for a full charged move?? was no point of trying to use it, did no damage
I just hope they fixed the logic for bubbled projectiles even tho I donโt see it on the patch
Day 269 of asking for a buff to dance
but you gotta question yourself
WHY is it bad?
Its not bad because its weak in power
Or it doesnt do enough dmg
Cause no one's gonna run into it and full charge takes years
ITS BAD because of the charge time
But strong
its simply a bad buff
It used to kill at like 12
no
its bad bcs its chargable and its not worth to charge
now it can be a bit worth
to charge it sometimes
You will almost never hit a fully charge up tilt
Maintenance lasting forever
Even F attack has a stupid hitbox and Armor to somewhat make it okay
Sair 1 into Sair 2 isn't consistent if you are fading away with it btw.
Just saying.
it shouldnt be consistent
when fading away

it would need to pull people into you to make that possible
idk
i probably never missed sair into sair 2
which would break it when normally used
It should be if I read someones dodge inwards and dodge cancel sair 1.
you are literally moving away from them
anyway
im slowly learning to parry in this game
how can the second fair connect that way
I'm literally moving towards them in this scenario.
you said "if you are fading away with it"
I can be an MS paint scholar rq if you need visuals
up light
but its still not a "good" move
why are we breaking moves with the risk/reward
making things consistent, clear and usable is the way
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I'm interested in using charge uptilt as a parry followup tbh.

yeah Fross already talked about it
its pretty interesting

The only other way I'm landing that is if they jump into the last hit because no one plays Garnet.
shweet
I miss it all the time retreating
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Garnet lvl 19 ayeee
momentum buff is good
jumping from ground moves you much further
Pink Diamond Steven!
Damn, SU fans eating good this BP.
Blue Diamond Ringout
Here Comes A Thought Ringout
Jack op
movespeed garnet feels good now
with song buff you are moving pretty fast from ground to air
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from the ground
GOATED
i feel like there is a bit
is ranked bugged?
im not getting any games out of the first
unless everyone salty rn
So a very small buff out of shoulder bash grounded? I'll try later
Is jack scary?
I 3 stocked him
Thank God
Steven ๐
game lagging af
Who is benefitting from momentum
Does it work out of shaggy kick? Or grapple? Those are both airborne not grounded momentum
It's strictly grounded momentum into a jump
i mean
every beatdown character sudently have better momentum to get to you
and beat your ass
and holy
im zooming
with this new movement
may be placebo