#Garnet

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crisp bronze
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f

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xD

signal dirge
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Womp womp

idle hearth
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????

crisp bronze
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ye

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playing as him

idle hearth
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everything that got said was true lol

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It is fundamentally broken if its fast

signal dirge
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If the strong stuff is fun keep it. If it's not kill it.

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Who cares about skill imput

idle hearth
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???????????????????

crisp bronze
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??????????????????????????????????????????????????

idle hearth
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bro should not design competetive games

crisp bronze
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bro hit wall hard today or what

signal dirge
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I don't see this as a competitive game

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It's a party game at best

idle hearth
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thats your vision of it

crisp bronze
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you have tourneys in this games
even if community

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its competetive game

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especialy with rankeds

idle hearth
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The Devs want competitiveness

signal dirge
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Exactly. Let them sit in their own basements

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People optimize mario kart

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I understand these people will exist no matter what

crisp bronze
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ye
BCS ITS COMPETETIVE GAME TOO

idle hearth
crisp bronze
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you rivaling other players

signal dirge
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Yes

crisp bronze
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its competative

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its not that hard

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to understand

signal dirge
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Any game is competitive if people take it that way

crisp bronze
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ye

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and??

signal dirge
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There's a comp scene for shoots and ladders

crisp bronze
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yes

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people love to compete

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no shitt

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in everything

signal dirge
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And so it doesn't matter how the game is if it's fun

tiny comet
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๐Ÿ˜’ another bugs nair

signal dirge
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The comp people will do that anyway

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Let them suffer if that's what they love to do

crisp bronze
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bro
back to smash and have problems with steve
like
how is this competetive?

signal dirge
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I did take that game seriously. Left with this view on competition in general

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It's annoying at best

crisp bronze
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its a fighting game

signal dirge
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Yeah. A gane

crisp bronze
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no way people will min max it

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xD

signal dirge
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Game

crisp bronze
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people in sports min maxing tactics too

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no shitt

signal dirge
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They are equally annoying

crisp bronze
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everywhere when even slightiest sign of competetivnes exist people will min max

signal dirge
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So making the min and max closer together should help alleviate

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Or making things so busted that no one takes it seriously

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Which trying or not. Is what pfg does

tiny comet
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Hmmโ€ฆ

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Anywho

crisp bronze
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if they do they will nerf it a bit

tiny comet
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Lets nerf agent smith dair por favor

signal dirge
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True

crisp bronze
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dair is not that of a problem
gun moves tho...

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and jav

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b

tiny comet
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๐Ÿ˜‚

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I punch the guns

crisp bronze
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only if he could not destroy my rocket punch and still hit me

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xd

tiny comet
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Its shaggy kick but as projectile

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Easy dodge

crisp bronze
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no

tiny comet
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Ye

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Damn jack has 4 signature perks including 5%

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Nerf jack 2024

crisp bronze
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and we have one

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INcluding 5%

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xd

signal dirge
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I agree for both. The gun is stronger than dair tho

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Why does it snuff projectiles

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It just shouldn't

tiny comet
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Neat garnet skin

crisp bronze
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what skin

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can you screen?

tiny comet
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Pirate skin

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I cannot

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Iโ€™ll take a photo

crisp bronze
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goofy ahh skin

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love it

tiny comet
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A free garnet avatar

signal dirge
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Pirate skin? Like from the history episodes?

tiny comet
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Garnet intense face

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Dms

signal dirge
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Oh yeah exactly that omd

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Untill they have king garnet tho wedding stays on

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Which is a leaked skin

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From the birthday episode

tiny comet
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Battle pass 6/10

crisp bronze
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olimpic skins

tiny comet
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Neat

signal dirge
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I can't watch it fully I'll just see tomorrow

tiny comet
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Wb map in ranked

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Titans tower later in the season

signal dirge
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Put court in ranked. Either

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I just wanna see the after math

tiny comet
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Cyber skins look cool

signal dirge
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Does garnet get one?

tiny comet
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Probably not

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But who knows

signal dirge
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Honestly I hope jack pulls in all the comp garnet mains so the trolls can live here

tiny comet
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Meh

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More people toโ€ฆ

signal dirge
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Garnet top 1

tiny comet
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Getting close to the patch notes

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๐Ÿ‘€

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Rick and morty mech skins in presitge store

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Gundam mech type

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Ww 1984 skin looks clean

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Leaderboards should be coming back for ranked

signal dirge
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Nice. I wonder how ill place playing casual

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I'll be using troll tactics ans never sitting up

tiny comet
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Lol

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Jake buffs

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๐Ÿ˜’

signal dirge
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It's working garnets moving down the totem

tiny comet
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๐Ÿ™‚โ€โ†”๏ธ

signal dirge
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Garnet number 1

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:3

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Needs some nerfs tbh

tiny comet
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Protect the jerry_fist

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Damn can only get jack through buying the battle pass

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Damn no patch notes

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Just gotta wait for in the discord i guess

signal dirge
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Sheesh

wicked tusk
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Garnet's skin from BP was really cool, but i also want Garnet's neon skin

signal dirge
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Both :3

tiny comet
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Same

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Neon garnet skin would be hard

wicked tusk
tiny comet
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Ik

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The devs

pine sandal
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I have come, as a new Garnet user, to submit myself to the wisdom of my fellows

tiny comet
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Punch em into the dirt

pine sandal
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someone beat me up unttil i am better

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๐Ÿซก

trail jewel
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hopefully garnet gets a decent buff! i'm still tryna figure out me proper main but still

crisp bronze
crisp bronze
tiny comet
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โ€œShift/changesโ€

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Long as clap and up air are fixed

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Nothing else matters

crisp bronze
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As i said
Give me faster start ups or end lags
And im fine

tiny comet
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Feels like itโ€™ll be hotfix bugs

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Either wise theyโ€™d mention it in the show

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Smh

signal dirge
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When are these patches notes

tiny comet
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When you believe in the power of the fist

signal dirge
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Oh I do

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Might even need a nerf

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*fixed a hitbox issue where garnets grounded neutral attack would hit behind her

crisp bronze
tiny comet
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I can trade shield break or not

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Take that risk if you want

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๐Ÿ˜Œ

signal dirge
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If they actually fixed that and none of the others I'd be maldinv

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Jack looks so strong

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What does garnet do against this.

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Do we just get walled out? Use projectiles to approach?

crisp bronze
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he will get nerfed like 4 times

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he cant exist in this state

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it will be joker incident all over

signal dirge
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I think regardless of what we want. The new character will always be strong

crisp bronze
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jason

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๐Ÿ’€

signal dirge
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Yeah but he was free to all beta players

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We got paid bois now

crisp bronze
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xd

signal dirge
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Smith joker and Jack are all strong / busted

crisp bronze
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making games is buisnes
no wae

idle hearth
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And some characters are just more healthy to be good than others

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imagine Jason beinjg good

signal dirge
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TRUE

idle hearth
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it would suck ass

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same with IG

signal dirge
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People don't get that

idle hearth
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sadly he is good

signal dirge
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When I said. Let strong things stay strong if they are good

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**fun

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I meant like I'd much rather Arya and Harley be good then morty ig

idle hearth
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well depends. You gotta shake things up

signal dirge
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Yeah but if I enter a LeBron meta I'm jerry_fist ing myself

idle hearth
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Even Cringy unpopular picks can be cool for a CERTAIN while

crisp bronze
signal dirge
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Hot take. Why?

idle hearth
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I think Morty is alright. Sure he is annoying but not in a unhealthy way

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Arya beats up Garnet

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hard

crisp bronze
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if morty make mistake he get punished

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bcs he have end lag

idle hearth
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god i hate Aryas Down attack

signal dirge
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Morty is worse against garnet since garnet punishes him well

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But I think he's better on average than Arya

crisp bronze
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if arya whiff you get punish for being to stupid to understand that you will get punish for trying to punish her

signal dirge
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Yeah you hafta clash with her

crisp bronze
idle hearth
crisp bronze
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he is s tier for sure

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but for me he is 3rd

idle hearth
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Down attack sucks and side attack is to slow

crisp bronze
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ig,arya and then morty

idle hearth
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she can dodge through gauntlet

crisp bronze
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i mean
dodging her attacks is not that much of a problem

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problem is you cant touch her if she whiff

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bcs WHY NOT

idle hearth
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i personally havent found a neutral tool which is consistently good against her. I always need to hard read her approches

signal dirge
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She won't get hit unless you clash.

idle hearth
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but atleast edgeguarden is possible

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(except when she throws her dagger on stage)

crisp bronze
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nlight sometimes work

idle hearth
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nlight is slow

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thats useful when you read her

crisp bronze
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it doesnt matter

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most of the time

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as i said

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arya is unplayable match up for garnet

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its her only -3 match up

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UN

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PLAY

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ABLE

idle hearth
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cant really say anything to that

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i dont play against good people anymore

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only a couple of Quickplay matches

signal dirge
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I mean yeah. But I never came to garnet to fight gods

crisp bronze
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im meeting good people even on quickplay

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yesterday i meet g3 and bobo in a row

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xd

idle hearth
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Im constantly playing against people with 2k + wins

signal dirge
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I don't think I've paid attention to who I fight

crisp bronze
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i do
bcs known nick will play much diffrent than average joe

signal dirge
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Jack farms half the cast imo

crisp bronze
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whos jack

signal dirge
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Samurai jack

crisp bronze
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oh

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ye

idle hearth
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stupid to say it now. he isnt even out yet

signal dirge
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That's why it's just my opinion

crisp bronze
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mayby he will have absurd end lag

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and sudently he d tier

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even best character can be destroyed by bad frame data

signal dirge
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I mean I'm rewatching the stream and it doesn't look it

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He does seem well telegraphed outside his normals and aerials

crisp bronze
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idk
i will give him few rounds
i loved samurai jack
it was goated cartoon

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one of the few that didnt treet kid like an despicable me enjoyer

signal dirge
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That's how o felt about steven universe

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But my opinions are historically bad.

crisp bronze
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i mean
i dont even play garnet for my adoration of the show

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it was allright

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and garnet was my favorite

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but i just like her gameplay

signal dirge
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I play garnet cause I like garnet

crisp bronze
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as agressive brawler

signal dirge
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I still think garnet is about snuffing out approaches more but you clearly have had more success

idle hearth
crisp bronze
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still
best cartoon ever made is avatar
and dont try to argue about it

idle hearth
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im the exact opposite

signal dirge
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I adore steven universe. Tis my favorite cartoon

idle hearth
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i only started playing garnet because of the show

signal dirge
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Likewise

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I'd be on bugs rn or rick

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If I wasn't so into steven universe

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Rick seems the most fun to lab and bugs seems the most fun for my playstyle

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I'm a casual who just gets decent because I play alot

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But I never like. Sit up and lean forward to play or look at frame data

crisp bronze
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@maiden tide gg ^^

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always fun to play vs garnet

signal dirge
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I don't like the garnet ditto. Just turns into clashes

crisp bronze
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i mean
show was ok
when it hit it hits
but then you had steven being the most unsufferable thing alive

idle hearth
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ah yeah thats something i hear a lot

trail jewel
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i adored garnet bc she was a gem who i would've loved to see in playable form but like

idle hearth
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i didnt mind him. i just thought that he is a 10 year old kid so its fine

signal dirge
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In season 1 sure. But he's also a random kid. Also finn and teen titans go were like 2x as annoying imo

trail jewel
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it's hard playing as her when she's too honest compared to others

idle hearth
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idk why

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but looking at steven makes me mad?

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annoyed? idk what it is

trail jewel
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i think it's like... the s1 characterization done by a soundalike trying to phone it in

idle hearth
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he should be a teenager steven. i think i just cant see him as a child anymore

signal dirge
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Finn took forever to finally like.

And it's because it's back to season 1 steven. But with the confidence of modern steven

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Like if kid steven was as confident as he is in future he'd be utterly annoying

trail jewel
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the only reason garnet's the post-regen design is bc the writer of this game said they got in riiiight after Jailbreak

idle hearth
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why are stevens feet a square

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minecraft looking ah

trail jewel
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concept art even had her in her season 1 design

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so it's like... v much their characterization

signal dirge
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I mean yeah. Then they tried to take their average later in the line

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Like garnets practically a static character

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Steven is unrecognizable

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Garnet learns to forgive things and to confront the future

Steven is a whole new man in future

signal dirge
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Steven amd finn are deadly together in 2s

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You don't escape that ladder

fleet birch
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Why does garnet feel different everytime I play her lol

signal dirge
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True

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That's mostly because garnet can be played 100 ways

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She's so fundamentals based

fleet birch
crisp bronze
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D I

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bro

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D I

fleet birch
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but like today i had a batman where i swear every hit just went thru him

fleet birch
signal dirge
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Multiversus hitboxes

fleet birch
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It was just like my attacks didnt work

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Like it was going good yesterday

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And then today it just like doesnt feel like it wants to work

signal dirge
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Batman pulls back their hurt boxes during alot of his attacks

fleet birch
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ohh

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But DI is directional input right?

crisp bronze
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i can hit 3 reads in in one combo into perfect finish in one day

signal dirge
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How long do you think untill people learn how to di garnet

dense pine
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Hear me out I think my garnets tweaking

crisp bronze
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like 3 years

signal dirge
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Turning into a dog from Rick or Jojo is optimal cause then you can spam the taunt noise as much as you want with troll tactics

fleet birch
tiny comet
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I still dont know how to play garnet

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๐Ÿ˜Œ

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I just be punchin

neat igloo
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who said they wanted to fight me yesterday

slim stone
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So. New Garnet skin

neat igloo
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@crisp bronze you got until 10PM before i call it a night

tiny comet
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Rip

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Eu time

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๐Ÿ˜‚

trail jewel
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Been faithful with her too much to let go ๐Ÿ˜”

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i don't wanna but maaaan... idk if she's my right playstyle now, i've been loyal to her since alpha

signal dirge
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What does the most damage out of jab 1 btw

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I've just been down jabbjng everything

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Nair sair 1 jab my beloved

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W and without cooldowns if known

plucky cairn
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Its probably jab 1 into clap counting the electric damage after

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Down jab for sure is the most damaging followup after jab with no cooldowns

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Okay just checked jab1 into down jab does 13 which is highest out of all the other jab routes and jab into clap does 16 which is the most of all follow ups

tiny comet
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Especially vs jason bg ig and some other tanks

signal dirge
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Cool so clap if you spent your cooldown and aren't trying to follow up

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Thank you

trail jewel
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feel like at the end of the day i want to make sure i'm having fun while still being capable

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she's still fun in her own right to me tho :)

novel copper
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I wanna see every Garnet here make it to Master Rank

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no ifs ands or buts

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I believe in us

tiny comet
slim stone
novel copper
slim stone
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I assumed so but as a Steven Player I'll try my best!

crisp bronze
flint oar
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Did she get buffed recently? Was playing as her doing the 1v1 missions and was doing pretty good! Got 4 wins in a row against a Finn (a competent one who get combo and juggle me) so that felt good.

crisp bronze
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whereee patch nooootes

upbeat fable
crisp bronze
signal dirge
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The patch notes are out

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(I'm lying :3)

idle hearth
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Wait the update drops in 4 hours?

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I thought now crying_steven

signal dirge
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Poor local man learns about time zones

fleet birch
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wait nvm LOL

signal dirge
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It's to early for this

fleet birch
signal dirge
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Can't wait for patch

fleet birch
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I might just take a nap until they drop

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I got kicked from a match then couldnt play for 10 minutes idk why

signal dirge
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Garnet mains are the protagonists. We are getting to masters

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Time to get my su Playlist in spotify

fleet birch
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whats that even look like

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just the songs from the show?

signal dirge
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I mean yeah. Amalgam goes super hard

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Who we are gets me hyped

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Stronger than you is obvious

fleet birch
signal dirge
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I typically loop like 4-5 songs

fleet birch
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id get sick of it by the first 3 seconds ngl

signal dirge
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I love good compositions and well thought out music

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I'm a music nerd so I love seeing how things work together

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Nonetheless. Amalgam isn't a lyrics song. Just really good background music

fleet birch
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Listen to TOOl

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Their music is good

crisp bronze
signal dirge
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The movie did have goated music. But all the songs are atleast above other cartoons. Adventure time fans are tripping I swear

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I think that's a hot take tho you're right

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If there's one thing su did objectively correct it's the music

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It's hard to think of anyone getting close cartoon wise

signal dirge
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Secret tunnel? Isn't that the only song they have lmao

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Like is there anything else in the ost?

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I've watched it front to back and I can't remember any

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Oh leaves from the vind

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Yeah they are good in context but less than mid out of it

signal dirge
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I'm listening

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And not getting much

crisp bronze
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waity

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something with quality

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of this one

signal dirge
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That was just tribal drums and random instruments sounding off in c

mild tinsel
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bought garnet! any basic tips/ stuff i should know??

crisp bronze
signal dirge
crisp bronze
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this one

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is peek tho

signal dirge
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Sounds like you want me to install raid shadow legendz

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Atleast there was a bit more going on here

crisp bronze
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but ye
atla probably didnt had that good music

signal dirge
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I can get just liking the sound font more. But there like 0 composition

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Tribal drums just also aren't my thing

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I like clean cut music with contrast

crisp bronze
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listen to this one i send
is the best one i send from these 3

signal dirge
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I listened. It's just strings now. I don't get where your going with any of this

crisp bronze
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mayby im just sucker for strings

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from like 0:40

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theme truly starts

signal dirge
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I think you like the ambiance and sound font and that's all you really care about.

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Which is fine

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But that makes things hard to discuss outside subjectivity

fleet birch
signal dirge
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Open with Nair sair jab 1 down jab

signal dirge
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That's just tool

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Totally outside of the discussion

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No steven universe music doesn't outclass most actual songs made by known musicians

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Unless you just wanted the. Who are you to wave your finger line. Then. Just a guy who plays piano basically

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But I guess that makes me equally qualified to discuss taste as top players are to discuss balance

fleet birch
signal dirge
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Pppffftttt

fleet birch
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I mean u gotta admit theyโ€™re good

signal dirge
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They are good. Not really my style but all the pieces are there and the music is good

fleet birch
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Yess

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At least u can respect the art

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โœŠ

signal dirge
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I have my personal taste and my more objective view on what a song does

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Only thing i can't lower my bias for is country and ghetto rap.

fleet birch
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lol

signal dirge
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Garnet buffs we pray

fleet birch
signal dirge
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1.5 hours

crisp bronze
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you will see
we wil get nothing again

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xD

signal dirge
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Honestly. Make clap quicker to be a consistent prayer kill move

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And I'm hapoy

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Yes ik just sair jab into it but like. Plz

crisp bronze
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clap is not a problem tho

toxic walrus
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Clap is a problem tho Fross, I have it drop constantly on characters that aren't named Garnet.

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First hit lands and doesn't suction into the second hit.

crisp bronze
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idk
my drops like 1/20

signal dirge
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It drops alot

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Or the hit just doesn't do anything at like 130 and sends them standing next to you

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Or they just get flung waay past the finisber

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Or they just. Clash with hit one and get put in perfect spot to Nair you

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Clap being more consistent might not raise her tier but be a wonderful quality change to all garnets

upbeat fable
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@crisp bronze Notes are out

formal geyser
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where

upbeat fable
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It's an entire... One page

formal geyser
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well thats incomplete then lmao

upbeat fable
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Yea

signal dirge
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That's just not correct lmao

upbeat fable
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Can we really be surprised?

crisp bronze
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Classic pfg

upbeat fable
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It's mvs

crisp bronze
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God i hate them so much

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Idk
Im waiting to August 8

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2xko have Alpha then

upbeat fable
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Hey man at least they're not destroying the entire internet

crisp bronze
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Will probably Play this

upbeat fable
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Yet

toxic walrus
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Fross, I will wash you in 2XKO when it comes out.

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I grew up on MvC2.

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It's in my blood.

crisp bronze
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I have like 5 hours in mortal combat X
And like an 10 in Tekken 5 when i was 12 yo
From classic fighters

You dont stand a chance

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Probably will get folded
Ngl xD

toxic walrus
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Traditional fighters have always been my jam.

upbeat fable
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I'm ass at them

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Why do you think I play Multi

crisp bronze
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Im fast learner tho

upbeat fable
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Someone asked me to buy Guilty gear strive

crisp bronze
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I can sudently pop off after few games

upbeat fable
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So I did, and suffered

crisp bronze
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I played mk X
And played few random matches

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Was funny to get 15 hit combo from Scorpion

upbeat fable
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Who needs big combos when you have grappler ๐Ÿ™‚

crisp bronze
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I played jade in Mk
Idk if it tells you something

upbeat fable
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It doesn't

crisp bronze
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As i tought

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Woman with big stick

toxic walrus
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I play Zangief and Chun Li in SF6, Master with both around 1650 LP.

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Best of both worlds.

crisp bronze
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Bruh

upbeat fable
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I play Potemkin

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There is nothing else

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Just Potemkin

toxic walrus
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Pot fans scare me.

crisp bronze
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Im good at platform fighters
I almost didnt touch traditional ones

toxic walrus
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I'm more of a Tager man myself.

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Such a cool grappler.

tiny comet
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๐Ÿ‘€

crisp bronze
#

I like how its a patch day and we talking about other games

#

Like

tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

Ehhh
THIS DEEEEEV

toxic walrus
#

Give us complete patch notes or I riot.

crisp bronze
#

I have beef

toxic walrus
#

It's that simple.

crisp bronze
#

With them

#

Game is unplayable if you not playing ig,arya or morty

#

And they think that not realeasing patch is good idea

tiny comet
#

Games unplayable with ig

#

Server keep crashing

#

One twirl and rip

upbeat fable
crisp bronze
#

Yep

#

Anyway

#

I Hope we will get full realese of 2x preaty fast

tiny comet
#

Release deez notes

#

๐Ÿ˜’

golden sapphire
#

Yeah I need the balance changes

crisp bronze
#

Bcs it seems like it will be biggest fighter that ever released

#

Last time riot released the game valorant had 2,5 mln people watching on Twitch
To gain keys

upbeat fable
#

Ok it's fully up

#

And there's a LOT

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ‘€

crisp bronze
#

Oh

#

Nvm then

#

Hmmm

#

Full charge up light seems like it will kill very early

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ‘€

#

Where

neat igloo
#

garnet buff is garbage the unlocked jump is good for combos tho

formal geyser
#

@tiny comethttps://multiversus.com/en/news/2-0-season-2-patch-notes

crisp bronze
formal geyser
#

ok so i clicked the link again and now im getting an error so i think the site is dying due to overload

#

but thats the link in either case lol

crisp bronze
#

It can be usefull after parry

#

It is not big tho

#

Big is that arya goes another patch without proper nerfs

#

Its fcking insane

formal geyser
#

and stripe is dead

#

so i gotta find a new main lol

crisp bronze
#

They trying to make gameplay less campy

#

I like it

neat igloo
#

it was already usable it even has a combo ender for it not fully charged

#

i was expecting them to fix atleast 1 bug

crisp bronze
#

Inconsistant clap
Jab hitting 1 frame and not hitting after

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ‘€

crisp bronze
#

At least ig get proper treatment

tiny comet
#

Rebuffing charged up attack is hilarious

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

#

Cant wait for someone try to parry and i charge up attack instead

#

๐Ÿ™‚โ€โ†”๏ธ

crisp bronze
#

Ground to jump momentum change can be interesting

neat igloo
#

i hope it feels disjointed atleast

crisp bronze
#

With up tilt shoulder

#

Well
They nerfed a lot of top characters and trying to make game less campy

#

Its not the worst patch

#

Could be better

#

But its decent

trail jewel
#

so like... are these patches better for garnet or?

crisp bronze
#

Ye

#

I think

neat igloo
#

the jump is the only good buff for garnet

trail jewel
#

ok good bc i'm actively trying to avoid wanting to learn someone else rn til agent smith is obtainable for me

signal dirge
#

Morty buffs is wild

crisp bronze
#

I mean
Full up charge will kill at like 50

trail jewel
#

i don't want to end up maining someone i hate bc their kit gels with me

crisp bronze
#

Its "change"

tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

Like with garnet up jab

tiny comet
neat igloo
#

80 is a full charge kill percent

#

upwards wise

crisp bronze
#

I think you can full charge it after parry so
Mayby its a move you should use after it

signal dirge
#

Hmmn is it usefull to throw out in twos tho

tiny comet
#

Assassins maybe but tanks no way

signal dirge
#

Catching people on plats is neat

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ˜Œ

crisp bronze
#

Im talking lights

signal dirge
#

Also what moves momentum does the jump buff help

crisp bronze
#

Tanks 80 is reasonable too

neat igloo
#

yea marvin is a homerun at 50 full charge

crisp bronze
tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ‘€

crisp bronze
#

I wonder how it will work with shoulder

tiny comet
#

Unrealistic

#

๐Ÿ™‚โ€โ†”๏ธ

crisp bronze
#

Bcs you can tilt it up from the ground

signal dirge
#

Yeah shoulder stops your momentum and down b stops u at the end

tiny comet
#

Survives another patch๐Ÿ˜

signal dirge
#

On the ground atleast

crisp bronze
#

Ye
But if you tilt it

#

Up

#

Ground does not stop you

#

And its like you are using it in the air

signal dirge
#

But then you'll slow before you hit ground. It would hafta stop right before you hit ground I think?

#

From air down angled

crisp bronze
#

No

#

This move sends you in the air

#

You stop animation in the air

#

But you need to tilt it up

signal dirge
#

I thought the jump thing is when you land with momentum and immediately jump you maintain momentum

#

No it's ground momentum into a jump.

#

I don't think shoulder bash is a jump but jumping out of it maybe?

#

I don't think shoulderbashing up from a grounded state applies the momentum boost but maybe jumping out of one?

#

What if you use marker to place a star way outside garnets range so it cancels on the ground still in motion and jump?

toxic walrus
signal dirge
#

I like funny gimmicks

#

Maybe this will make up special in air carry forward more

#

Which might actually have some applications as a burst kill option from afar

toxic walrus
#

I think Last Stand being nerfed will full cement me into movespeed.

tiny comet
#

Bout damn time

toxic walrus
#

With the jump buff as well I think this could be big.

signal dirge
#

Troll tactics bb

crisp bronze
#

yep
Mayby even i will start to use it

#

Would change it to air platform

signal dirge
#

Same

crisp bronze
#

But its nerfed

toxic walrus
#

Won't stop me fully from using Last Stand tho. Match up dependent now.

crisp bronze
#

Again

#

Idk
Its 40% nerf

signal dirge
#

Air platform is the most fun of the middle perks by far

tiny comet
#

Use air walker just to jerry_fist

crisp bronze
#

You lose 40% of the perk

toxic walrus
#

3 stacks of weaken still improves kill % significantly.

#

Especially on light matchups.

#

Arya, Harley, etc.

crisp bronze
#

True
But light characters often kills you at like 110

#

Bcs arya

toxic walrus
#

Just don't get hit. :^)

crisp bronze
#

I always liked it vs bruisers or tanks

signal dirge
#

Up tilt final hit goes alot higher through plats. Might get it off from tricking that

toxic walrus
#

Regardless, full send uptilt is a welcome change.

#

I think it was big dumb clap killed earlier.

crisp bronze
signal dirge
#

I'd rather have clap kill even earlier

crisp bronze
#

It kills at 80 vs lights from the ground guys
Like
Just make it consistant

toxic walrus
#

Doesn't need more power, just make it consistent

crisp bronze
#

Like full consistant

#

It have enough kill power

signal dirge
#

Yeaah. That's more what I want aswell

#

I've said before. Armor if the first hit hits and hitbox consistency

toxic walrus
#

Oooh, armor on confirmed hit would be lit for 2v2s as well.

tiny comet
#

Down air this arya

signal dirge
#

Exactly

#

I run Twos and wouldn't do to much in 1s

tiny comet
#

Arya cant find inner peace ๐Ÿ™‚โ€โ†•๏ธ

crisp bronze
#

Oh
Btw
At least they removed the platform true combo

#

From arya

toxic walrus
#

Yeah.

#

I'm glad.

signal dirge
#

That's nice to hear

crisp bronze
#

Its something

#

At least

toxic walrus
#

I'll take it lol.

#

Now just give me the god damn dtilt cancel back and I'm good.

#

I'd be happy with that.

crisp bronze
#

Dtilt was...

#

?

toxic walrus
#

Shockwave

#

I would love if she could cancel charge still.

crisp bronze
#

Oh

signal dirge
#

You could cancel it?

toxic walrus
#

In beta.

signal dirge
#

That would be so nice

crisp bronze
#

Ye

signal dirge
#

I played beta but that was so long ago I remember nothing really

toxic walrus
#

It'd fix all the issues I have with it currently.

signal dirge
#

Honestly. Can't it hit just a little off the ground?

toxic walrus
#

Force an approach with dtilt charge, cancel it, and then read their option.

crisp bronze
#

Anyway
They nerfed a lot of characters, they buffed us and they rewarding more agressive playstyle

#

BEHOLD MORTALS
YOU ARE NOT READY FOR ME

toxic walrus
#

Ha. I'm ready.

signal dirge
#

If garnet does have new momentum options with this burst pressure might be her new final form

toxic walrus
#

Gonna get back to work and play a bit when I get back home before going to the national park.

crisp bronze
#

She had a lot of momentum tools already
If it will be noticable change
She can change into momentum demon

signal dirge
#

Yeah. Burst movement combined with better airspeed will make her fatal. And sairs will connect into eachother at higher percents

crisp bronze
#

Well
We will see

idle hearth
#

wait what is this buff lol

crisp bronze
#

And sairs always conects
Idk who trying to gaslight that sair into sair 2 is not consistant

crisp bronze
#

With jump momentum

signal dirge
#

No I mean untrue strings. Just sair 12 sair 12 for pressure

#

Sair drops sometimes into itself but that's typically when your fastfalling

pearl dust
#

clap untouched

idle hearth
pearl dust
#

its over

idle hearth
#

but why reward offensive playstyles more?

signal dirge
#

The top tiers are defensive rn

idle hearth
#

i personally thought that defensive options sucked ass

crisp bronze
#

Bcs meta is turbo passive.?

idle hearth
#

didnt play for like 3-4 weeks

signal dirge
#

Can wall you out easy run away

idle hearth
#

thats probably why

#

alr

crisp bronze
#

Punishing is very very easy
And aproching not so much

#

Characters like morty and arya literaly was waiting entire game for your move

idle hearth
#

who was a top tier? Morty IG and joker?

#

Arya

signal dirge
#

Arya above joker imo

crisp bronze
#

Rn
Yep

#

Joker was passive too

idle hearth
#

but then why buff offensive options?

crisp bronze
#

He was waiting to just jab you

idle hearth
#

Rather than changing the meta

tiny comet
#

Garnet S tier

crisp bronze
#

Bcs 90% of characters are better playing passive

signal dirge
#

Garnet top 1

idle hearth
signal dirge
#

Morty can pepper you while running away all game and kill you off a jab if you approach

idle hearth
#

wait why wasnt Arya nerfed

crisp bronze
#

Tbh the only characters that want to Play offensive are Batman and mayby ig

crisp bronze
#

At least true combo with platform is dead

signal dirge
#

They love their Marth

crisp bronze
#

And agressive playstyle buff is indirect nerf to her too

idle hearth
signal dirge
#

Fixed an issue where a fighter undergoing extremely high knockback would not be knocked away.

idle hearth
#

Arya is REALLY stressful as garnet because of garnets ASS hitboxes

signal dirge
#

Clap now works at 180?

idle hearth
#

people are going under or through my jab

signal dirge
#

Dtilt

idle hearth
#

dtilt is ass

pearl dust
#

its not bad but the hitbox does not match the visual whatsoever

#

its also tiny

crisp bronze
tiny comet
#

Let me inโ€ฆ

#

Let meeee innn

idle hearth
#

But why did Garnets FULL CHARGE up tilt get a buff?

#

why arent they decreasing the charge time

crisp bronze
#

Bcs it was useless

pearl dust
#

its still useless

idle hearth
#

yeah

crisp bronze
#

Not as much

tiny comet
idle hearth
#

its useless because you cant even throw it out

pearl dust
#

lowkey needs to be reworked into clap

crisp bronze
#

You van use it as suprise tool

And after parry you will kill with it at 50

tiny comet
#

Remember how garnet was released in the beta

#

Anything that was useless got a buff

idle hearth
tiny comet
#

Same now

signal dirge
#

Ig nerfs are good

tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

Deserved

idle hearth
#

never played against a good one but he must have been annoying and cheesy

#

happy for yall

crisp bronze
#

And jeez

tiny comet
#

War crimes

crisp bronze
#

Rankeds
Finaly

#

I will have motovation to Play

signal dirge
#

Air Neutral Attack 2 is now Air Neutral Attack, Neutral Special Follow-Up
~ Input requirements changed to neutral special after air neutral attack
~ Using this attack consumes one air special

  • Now launches Jake upwards and forwards
    ~ Now only hits one time
  • Knockback increased to 2100 from 1000
  • Knockback scaling increased to 18 from 10
    ~ Knockback angle made more horizontal
  • Hitbox size increased
#

This jake buff

idle hearth
#

Lets see firstly how good the Ranked System is

tiny comet
#

Ptsd

crisp bronze
#

Its probably the one from beta

#

I didnt play it

idle hearth
#

idk how good that one was

crisp bronze
#

So idk how it was

idle hearth
#

if its ass i wont play again xD

#

but honestly making a ranked system for fighting games 1v1

#

cant be hard right?

signal dirge
#

The ranked system can literally just be a number with the word ranked and I'll be happy

tiny comet
#

Now that aryas balanced i can learn how to play her now

#

๐Ÿ˜

idle hearth
#

๐Ÿ’€

#

wait

crisp bronze
#

Bro
Without shielded move you are like crab without claws

idle hearth
#

guys what happend with WW

crisp bronze
#

Nerfed

idle hearth
#

but was she a problem?

crisp bronze
#

Yep

#

They found loop

#

For example

tiny comet
#

Tht new tech

idle hearth
crisp bronze
#

It was iad loop

#

To be even more funny

tiny comet
#

Hmm

idle hearth
#

YOO they removed the stupid lasso Cooldown

#

actually a W change

crisp bronze
#

Why tho
Its annoying as hell

idle hearth
#

Balancing it with a cooldown was lazy af

signal dirge
#

Why did stripe get all nerfs lmaoo

crisp bronze
#

She will change from shielded brawler to spam lasso to make opening

idle hearth
#

Repeat-move lockout increased to 8 frames from 0 frames
โ€“ On-whiff cancel window delayed 8 frames

#

and that

crisp bronze
#

Yep

#

That's the iad remova

tiny comet
#

But did t&j get a nerf

crisp bronze
#

He didnt deserve one
Unpopular opinion

#

At least on 1s

idle hearth
# tiny comet But did t&j get a nerf

Air Up Attack
โ€“ Sweetspot removed
This sweetspot was misconfigured and near-impossible to hit. Tom & Jerryโ€™s air up attack was already strong without the sweetspot so the sweetspot has been removed
Air Up Special

  • Now launches Tom higher on start-up
crisp bronze
#

He was not a problem

idle hearth
crisp bronze
#

Idk

#

Worst Marvin

#

And worst reindog

signal dirge
#

The sweet spot never hit so it's not really a nerf. Just removing a not working intended feature

crisp bronze
#

At the same time

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ‘€

signal dirge
#

I've never gotten hit by it atleast

tiny comet
#

I see i see

crisp bronze
#

Anyway
Outside of not nerfing arya

#

W patch

signal dirge
#

I will be spamming up tilt to check to see if my opponent has braincells

crisp bronze
#

I still think this move will be only used after parry

#

As an NASA launcher

tiny comet
#

Prepare to see alot t&j

#

And jack ofc

crisp bronze
#

Tf you have with t&j
They are not even strong

#

TNT is strong
Jerry is strong
And paddle is ok
That alls

tiny comet
#

Youโ€™ll see

#

Youโ€™ll all see

#

๐Ÿ˜

crisp bronze
#

Holy I went to ig channel

#

I almost get infected by brainrot

tiny comet
#

Yuk

signal dirge
#

I think in 2s if you find time to throw it out you might be gambling like a 20% chance of a way easier stock

dark seal
#

I just hope they fixed the logic for bubbled projectiles even tho I donโ€™t see it on the patch

tiny comet
#

Day 269 of asking for a buff to dance

signal dirge
#

Mood

#

I hope that you now feel a purpose to fish for it.

#

I wanna use it

idle hearth
#

WHY is it bad?

#

Its not bad because its weak in power

#

Or it doesnt do enough dmg

upbeat fable
#

Cause no one's gonna run into it and full charge takes years

idle hearth
#

ITS BAD because of the charge time

signal dirge
#

But strong

idle hearth
#

its simply a bad buff

upbeat fable
#

It used to kill at like 12

crisp bronze
#

now it can be a bit worth

#

to charge it sometimes

idle hearth
#

You will almost never hit a fully charge up tilt

tiny comet
#

Maintenance lasting forever

idle hearth
#

Even F attack has a stupid hitbox and Armor to somewhat make it okay

toxic walrus
#

Just saying.

idle hearth
#

when fading away

tiny comet
idle hearth
#

it would need to pull people into you to make that possible

crisp bronze
idle hearth
#

which would break it when normally used

toxic walrus
idle hearth
#

you are literally moving away from them

crisp bronze
#

anyway
im slowly learning to parry in this game

idle hearth
#

how can the second fair connect that way

toxic walrus
#

I'm literally moving towards them in this scenario.

crisp bronze
#

so this fully charged up air may be handy

#

bcs it have much more power than clap

idle hearth
#

you said "if you are fading away with it"

toxic walrus
#

I can be an MS paint scholar rq if you need visuals

crisp bronze
#

up light

idle hearth
#

but its still not a "good" move

crisp bronze
#

its situational to the brim

#

its not good

idle hearth
#

why are we breaking moves with the risk/reward

crisp bronze
#

but it will be usable

#

sometimes

idle hearth
#

making things consistent, clear and usable is the way

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ˜’

toxic walrus
#

I'm interested in using charge uptilt as a parry followup tbh.

tiny comet
idle hearth
#

its pretty interesting

tiny comet
toxic walrus
#

The only other way I'm landing that is if they jump into the last hit because no one plays Garnet.

crisp bronze
#

yep

#

people fall for nlight

#

so may wfall for it too

#

servers on

#

btw

toxic walrus
#

shweet

tiny comet
#

Let me innnn

toxic walrus
#

OMG

#

BUDDYS BOOK GARNET

crisp bronze
#

i want to test how early it kills

#

what

#

?

toxic walrus
#

PIRATE GARNET

#

ARGHHHH

signal dirge
tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

signal dirge
#

So how's the momentum stuff

#

Btw

#

Fross give me the deets

tiny comet
#

Garnet lvl 19 ayeee

crisp bronze
#

nvm

#

move still terrible

#

kills arya at 100

#

without di

#

xDDD

tiny comet
#

Like i said

#

Unrealistic

crisp bronze
#

momentum buff is good

tiny comet
#

But itโ€™ll trade in certain circumstances

#

Like ig butt slam

crisp bronze
#

jumping from ground moves you much further

toxic walrus
#

Pink Diamond Steven!

#

Damn, SU fans eating good this BP.

#

Blue Diamond Ringout

#

Here Comes A Thought Ringout

tiny comet
#

Jack op

toxic walrus
#

movespeed garnet feels good now

#

with song buff you are moving pretty fast from ground to air

tiny comet
#

๐Ÿ™‚โ€โ†”๏ธ

toxic walrus
#

and I think I got my first rq in ranked

#

yep

crisp bronze
#

ok
2 wins

#

alreadyt

#

im fast af

#

elbow seem to be turbo fast

toxic walrus
#

i think it's placebo

#

seems normal to me

crisp bronze
#

from the ground

toxic walrus
#

yep

#

I'm not noticing too much of a diff

#

if any

signal dirge
crisp bronze
toxic walrus
#

is ranked bugged?

#

im not getting any games out of the first

#

unless everyone salty rn

crisp bronze
#

probably bugged

#

and game laggy as hell

#

i restarted

#

mayby it will help

tiny comet
#

Game laggy as hell

#

Damn not even in ranked are rematches

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

signal dirge
#

So a very small buff out of shoulder bash grounded? I'll try later

tiny comet
#

Sent jack flying at 90 hp

#

With up attack

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

signal dirge
#

Is jack scary?

crisp bronze
#

i played vs two

#

and its not that bad

tiny comet
#

I 3 stocked him

signal dirge
#

Thank God

tiny comet
#

Steven ๐Ÿ‘€

crisp bronze
#

game lagging af

signal dirge
#

Who is benefitting from momentum

crisp bronze
#

every more offensive character

#

batman

#

mayby shaggy

#

garnet

signal dirge
#

Does it work out of shaggy kick? Or grapple? Those are both airborne not grounded momentum

#

It's strictly grounded momentum into a jump

crisp bronze
#

i mean
every beatdown character sudently have better momentum to get to you

#

and beat your ass

#

and holy
im zooming
with this new movement

#

may be placebo

signal dirge
#

Only if they have more grounded momentum than air momentum

#

Which means they need a way to increase their ground momentum

tiny comet
#

My nemesisโ€ฆ

#

Gizmo