Brainrot bias is in every community huh?
#Garnet
crisp bronze
upbeat fable
People are calling him low tier 💀
idle hearth
Garnets community is goated tho
upbeat fable
True, same with Jason
idle hearth
yall are great here
upbeat fable
Yessir
crisp bronze
Back to the topic
upbeat fable
I think you're going insane
crisp bronze
I couldnt bring your dodge meter down
upbeat fable
Yea
idle hearth
already testing it
crisp bronze
And now buff to 2 and use it
idle hearth
it does not seem like it
crisp bronze
It doesnt seems faster?
idle hearth
am i tripping or is the osoundeffect of hitting them different?
on miss? let me test it real quick
upbeat fable
The purple effects
idle hearth
maybe yeag
upbeat fable
Nah that's actually just an illusion made by the purple vfx
fleet birch
Is garnets moves like showing the effect but not hitting for u guys?
crisp bronze
Harley pancakes vs any move that doesnt have hitbox on the ground
crisp bronze
:/
Monke brain see purple
Monke brain think faster
upbeat fable
Exactly
idle hearth
oh one question Frosstea
crisp bronze
?
idle hearth
which perk did you find stronger on steven?
shields doing more hitstun or big boi watermelon?
crisp bronze
Probably shield
idle hearth
or are both so bad that you didnt care? xD
crisp bronze
Tbh the only thing big melon changes is that he is bigger
And he blocks attacks easier
Still
Steven counters garnet so hard its not even funny
Especialy me
idle hearth
i think its alright for garnet. def losing but not the end of the world
but yeah your playstyle
is rip
crisp bronze
I cant force you out of neutral
idle hearth
yeah you really need to force every single cooldown out
crisp bronze
Need to adapt then
crisp bronze
Good thing is im oneshoting shield with elbow tho
idle hearth
yep thats actually a big difference maker in the MU
crisp bronze
I would be totally cooked if this was not the case
crisp bronze
Mayby in this match up it would have some potential
When im the one who need to play defensivly
Anyway what do you think about preditions with elbow?
idle hearth
great
crisp bronze
Im trying to master it and i need every opinion on it possible
idle hearth
but it will be weaker once i understand how to DI and dodge it
i def cant dodge out
i learned that the hard way
and i always mashed air dodge making your predictions even stronger
crisp bronze
The thing is you probably need to parry it to dodge it
Bcs active frames are so long
Still
Im mad
I could not shine in this match up xD
calm thistle
5% is too op on garnet I love it
crisp bronze
Its strong
idle hearth
5% is too op on garnet I love it
explain
crisp bronze
Add damage on 1 and 3 slot too
idle hearth
why is everyone such a big fan of it??
crisp bronze
And you will deal absurd damage with combos
idle hearth
Marker gives you NEW NEUTRAL AND DISADVANTAGE OPTIONS
way better than slightly more dmg output in which garnet does not struggle
right?
calm thistle
Its strong
Ikr along with puglist and snowball it’s really really strong
idle hearth
But uses star and gaunt at the same time
playing stars on an aggressive position
Pressuring yknow
CAMPERS
crisp bronze
Bcs it will put star in wrong place
idle hearth
(steven)
idle hearth
Bcs it will put star in wrong place
just dont do it upwards and your fine
you can cover jumps with fair
crisp bronze
I often use it on melle after jab
Yo use it with dash attack
And it places it in middle of nowhere
calm thistle
I see people use marker but it’s just second rate due to it placing star in some bad positions
crisp bronze
+i lose tankines and damage from 5%
calm thistle
The tankinest helps subsides garnets biggest weak point
crisp bronze
What point?
idle hearth
huh
crisp bronze
I mean
idle hearth
not saying that the 5% actually matter that much tbh
i think its like nothing over having new options in disadvantage and neutral state
Imagine a Steven camping
and then you place a star behind him
crisp bronze
I mean
5% less knockback is always good thing
idle hearth
covering a whole stage
calm thistle
Stacked with puglist and potentially snowball effect
idle hearth
I mean
5% less knockback is always good thing
oh yeah 100% it just doesnt help with getting combo´ed
calm thistle
The defense will come in handy
tiny comet
Damn what i missed
idle hearth
ehh thats just a theory
calm thistle
Damn what i missed
You
idle hearth
did anyone of us lab it?
crisp bronze
It helps
Like
I fell the diffrence
idle hearth
how much it will make an difference?
crisp bronze
And 2 thing
I just like to have star when i need it
Sometimes to use it just to float
For a while
Back to the topic we lost
Sair into elbow probably can be true
tiny comet
calm thistle
Pretty sure the first hit of sair was nerfed
crisp bronze
Only when you doing loop
I mean
You trying
Bcs it not working anymore thx to this
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Even if
5% less cd is worth it
And if im not wrong
Its always adds at least 1 damage
To each hit
So mayby im dellusional
But it should probably deal 3 more damage in jab
crisp bronze
?
crisp bronze
So it makes diff somehow
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At 115?
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Still
Prefer it over marker
Im a guy who love to have perfect control of my game
If
idle hearth
Still
Prefer it over marker
i will get you someday
crisp bronze
I miss gaunt or enamy dodge
Its in wrong place
tiny comet
5%
tiny comet
Extra 
crisp bronze
on garnet vs garnet i dont think so
idle hearth
I SWEAR IM NOT CRAZY
idle hearth
on garnet vs garnet i dont think so
being on ledge
crisp bronze
It was broken when you could garnecide with it
tiny comet
I SWEAR IM NOT CRAZY
I believe 
idle hearth
imagine having an EXTRA option
crisp bronze
imagine using elbow instead
Bcs you cant use gaunt anyway when you out of air options
idle hearth
imagine using elbow instead
but now you have multiple options
crisp bronze
Same for special
idle hearth
use gauntlet when you fly back to ledge
enemy needs to dodge it
creating a star
boom
now you can either use up air from below
side b shoulder bash
OR
Down b
crisp bronze
Ye. Then he jumps and punishing you for it bcs its so obvious
idle hearth
😄
idle hearth
Ye. Then he jumps and punishing you for it bcs its so obvious
from far away
they wont be able to contest it
crisp bronze
Or just parry you
idle hearth
parry down b?
idle hearth
ngl not in the next 3 months
people cant parry
you parried me ONE time
my nair i think
which was crazy tbh
crisp bronze
Im never using it in obvious way vs very good players
idle hearth
because i was stunned for AGES
crisp bronze
Im so dogshitt with dodges
idle hearth
you need to wait until they throw some option out
then you can use down b to punish/reversal them?
you never get off ledge without them doing mistakes anyways?
crisp bronze
Idk
I will not use it
As i said
I prefer perfect control in my game above gimmicky recovery
crisp bronze
Tbh i would use groove if not that chances to proc it are so fcking low
idle hearth
NAAAHHH
we dont talk about groove here
take that back
thats an inwritten rule here
crisp bronze
XD
idle hearth
dont talk about that dogwater ass perk
crisp bronze
Anyway
If i didnt get completly stevened
I would show you funny thing
In our matches
When you Burn your meter
And i touch you above 30 damage
You dead
Just like that
idle hearth
luckily my fair carries in that Matchup so it never happened XD
like no joke stevens nair is stupidly broken
sair*
not nair
crisp bronze
Its the shield dash right
crisp bronze
I mean
Both dair and sair doing it
Wait
Dair only stops
Nvm
Anyway
Remember that inconsistent fair to shoulder
To fair
idle hearth
yeah?
idle hearth
yep thats what killed me
i stupidly mashed my dodge
probably muscle memory from having a fast shield
crisp bronze
Its kill combo from middle of the stage at 30+
If you burn you meter
Bcs for some reasons garnet is yeeting you across the stage with her like there is no tomorrow
tiny comet
past pendant
guys gimme the combos here pls
i keep freestyling bubut it works 5 outta ten times
tbh garnet is very freestylish with the sair 1 option
past pendant
mannn skittles we are not the same
idle hearth
there are not that many combos
idle hearth
well no
you either do the simple combos
or yeah read the option for more punish
just be creative
and try some silly stuff in the training mode
i cant really name combos
tiny comet
Free sauce
past pendant
yh ik
idle hearth
approching or disadvantage
idle hearth
approching or disadvantage
thats the real shiit
past pendant
yup
tiny comet
rare glen
its just consistency
Yeah that's her biggest problem. She works for what other characters can do with less effort-
rare glen
SHE WASN'T EVEN REALLY NERFED
rare glen
They just changed her knockbacks for some reason? 😭
idle hearth
no one liked them
rare glen
They classified them as changes. But I don't know why she got them
past pendant
reeeeeaaal
past pendant
she was good as is imo
tiny comet
Nerf garnet 2024-2026
idle hearth
ngl
past pendant
skittles im rooting for u in tourneys
past pendant
bwhat
rare glen
She was an honest character imo
rare glen
Well, I should say straightforward
tiny comet
In a Filthy casual
rare glen
Not honest
tiny comet
😏
tiny comet
i dont feel the side attack (up) change
Its there
idle hearth
she could get loops which insta kill with: Sair,side attack, Nair, Dair,Gauntlet,Shoulderbash,Down attack,up b projectile
hitting one of these moves = death
tiny comet
Leave britney alone
past pendant
she could get loops which insta kill with: Sair,side attack, Nair, Dair,Gauntlet...
wooahwooah
idle hearth
ehh honestly the amount of side b u used made me sad.
because you used them optimally
i dont want a move being this much better than others
crisp bronze
i dont want a move being this much better than others
I mean
If they put power from it into other moves then ok
idle hearth
I mean
If they put power from it into other moves then ok
yep
crisp bronze
Tbh the only reason this move is strong is that it can be tilted
Its a move that can be used in 70 degree angle
So it hard to dodge it
crisp bronze
Kinda
tiny comet
And less damage
crisp bronze
But its shorter and slower
idle hearth
like fross said tiltable
crisp bronze
Shaggy kick is too
idle hearth
lol
crisp bronze
Still
You cant combo out of it
idle hearth
honestly all teh shaggys i played sucked ass
once they powered up they always used side b
always
crisp bronze
You need to have very good neutral to play nim
idle hearth
i can stand 100 meters away and they would still do it
crisp bronze
Ye
You van use one move to combo it with jab
Instead of Rage kick
Is so much better
Bcs after u use it you are one read from knock outing enamy
Anyway
Garnet side b is kinda strong
I will not try to gasligjt anyone, or talking about identity
idle hearth
yeah no and im not saying that it NEEDs to be nerfed btw
i just would like it i guess. but only if the other buffs are good enough
idle hearth
i dont want THIS happening again (removing loops while giving her no good buff)
tiny comet
👀
tiny comet
i dont want THIS happening again (removing loops while giving her no good buff)
Nerf her into the dirt
idle hearth
Nerf her into the dirt
Evil Skittles be like
tiny comet
I’ll shall overcome
rare glen
Me honestly I don't like loop combos. I find it to be in the same boring vein. I don't speak on that objectively though.
tiny comet
Anybody got stats on most played characters?
rare glen
Just as a spectator, doing them, and getting hit.
idle hearth
i think loops are fundamentally just broken
it just doesnt FEEL good to see them
or get hit by them
tiny comet
One superman loop and i promise i’ll never stay on the ground again to get looped again
idle hearth
human psychology is very important
tiny comet
Up up and away superman
rare glen
I don't want say they lack skill expression or anything. Because they do take skill. But I guess it's just what Mika said. Doesn't feel good to see or get hit by
idle hearth
human psychology is very important
to think about in game design
idle hearth
I don't want say they lack skill expression or anything. Because they do take sk...
i disagree
with the skill part
i genuinely dont think that the required skill matches the reward IN ANY WAY
like not even close
rare glen
Ah so I would be right to say it's a lack of skill expression.
I thought about saying that, and I do agree
But speaking of objectively I thought it'd be wrong.
idle hearth
well at the end of the day it depends on the risk reward
tiny comet
Garnet Sairs (cd) beats supermans sairs the fly grab, tip*
rare glen
I don't have an argument against you so I agree 100%
idle hearth
Garnet could loop out of 5-6 different attacks
thats just stupid
If it was only jab
then it would still be stupid
and it would feel bad
BUT
past pendant
garnet is just timing
tiny comet
Life was simple for garnet haters in the beta
past pendant
take a moment to think of just
signal dirge
I always love the glitch where garnet can just start airdodging out of hitstun
Typically on big maps after you hit a wall garnet can just. Stop
signal dirge
I thought you were flying
"I decided I didn't want to"
true fiber
Shh we don’t need them to patch it
tiny comet
💀
rare glen
Garnet players are holding on scraps, super gluing them together with patches of bubblegum and a paper clip, and calling it "a whole character". 😭
frozen iris
Spent the night helping people get Agent Smith. Feels like a betrayal, but rifts sucks. So it helps. If anyone needs a jump straight to any boss, let me know. Mostly tomorrow night and Wednesday.
rigid storm
Spent the night helping people get Agent Smith. Feels like a betrayal, but rifts...
ty for helping the community 🎀
frozen iris
Also, after running it 12 times tonight, screw Megalodog (outfit is still cute, tho).
tiny comet
Spent the night helping people get Agent Smith. Feels like a betrayal, but rifts...
Destiny 2.0
drowsy arch
What do u guys think of iAD dair (hold)?
tiny comet
Not true but can reset as a frame trap
drowsy arch
not in combos but i mean to kill. Is it fast enough? maybe more of a 2v2 thing?
tiny comet
I mean…
Raw iad dair explosion is good edge guarding in certain scenarios
Can definitely catch people slipping
But uses alot of dodge meter
And is easily interruptible
Can definitely work but at a cost
Dodge clap is basically same outcome knockback wise
If you can do iad dair on a platform above them would work too because it has big radius
↖️⬆️↗️
↙️⬇️↘️
calm thistle
Garnet players are holding on scraps, super gluing them together with patches of...
The thickness drives me to play her still
wicked tusk
Spent the night helping people get Agent Smith. Feels like a betrayal, but rifts...
taxi mode on
frozen iris
Jason is kind of a real boy after buffs. Did a long set with one. Ended after getting hit by the full Garnet special.
frozen iris
taxi mode on
I can help tonight after work or all day tomorrow.
fleet birch
Does batman feel like a better version of garnet?
reef ore
is it just me or does garnet just feel weaker than most of the roster?
fleet birch
is it just me or does garnet just feel weaker than most of the roster?
She def does
i know shes definitley strong
ask fross
But like shes big and slow so if ur opponent is decent then she feels bad
reef ore
ask fross
i gotta see some gameplay from fross too
im not sure if its something im doing or if its the character
idle hearth
Yes Garnet is indeed weaker than most other characters
She does make you feel like god in advantage
but trying to play Neutral or being in disadvantage is ass
She is still viable
tiny comet
Does batman feel like a better version of garnet?
I disagree just a different type of bruiser
Garnet op
Nerf
Must use to tools
wicked tusk
I can help tonight after work or all day tomorrow.
thnx, but i'll probably need yours someday when all difficult become available, i want try to get 250 gleamiums with reach 29 points, gleamium is a good value
crisp bronze
but trying to play Neutral or being in disadvantage is ass
That's why you Play her hyper agressive
idle hearth
good luck doing that against Zoners. and dont you think that the longer the game exist the worse the playstyle gets?
your hitboxes arent crazy
Garnet is big
and her moves arent fast
sure it might work now i guess
but later?
i dont think so
crisp bronze
The thing is even when game will go on, throwing enamy from prefered playstyle is always worth it
And as you said
When in advantage state
Garnet is monster
Vs zoners its harder
True
But its not impossible
Especialy if you bait 1 or 2 cooldowns
rancid cargo
i was wondering why they didnt touch garnets kit between the beta to now
and after playing a bit of garnet
tiny comet
They did
crisp bronze
They did tho
tiny comet
😏
crisp bronze
Her gameplay is literaly turned around 180 degree
rancid cargo
Her gameplay is literaly turned around 180 degree
gameplay is different yeah
but what did they change about her moves?
gauntlet has more KB
crisp bronze
No shield on jab2
No shield on shockwave
Shield on nlight
Up air being much faster
Shoulder is killing move now
rancid cargo
No shield on jab2
oh yeah i noticed this one
but arent these more of nerfs compared to buffs (speaking about the first two)
the up air change feels nice
rancid cargo
fair enough
rancid cargo
I played her like really late beta so I cant really tell you what they changed
tbh tho i cant tell you what buffs would make garnet a lot better
crisp bronze
I mean agenda there is she useless and f tier
tiny comet
😂
crisp bronze
So probably every move
tiny comet
The agendaaaa..
crisp bronze
tiny comet
Nerf garnet 2024-2026
crisp bronze
But without jokes
tiny comet
Except
rancid cargo
Gauntlet idk
crisp bronze
Gauntlet is better than in beta
rancid cargo
it already feels like it has quite a bit of KB
rancid cargo
knockback
crisp bronze
?
rancid cargo
yeah
rancid cargo
does it?
crisp bronze
This move is more like finisher when enamy barely lived
Or engage tool
rancid cargo
so is it really just a worse version of batarang☹️
rancid cargo
elbow is nice
crisp bronze
Elbow is now her best move
rancid cargo
i like clap a lot tbh
crisp bronze
Clap is fun
rancid cargo
it feels satisfying to hit so i always try going for it
but im ngl I kind of want her to have a better dodge
or the sing perk to be more consistent so im faster
crisp bronze
@idle hearth
Ayo
Wanna lab something for me?
Im out of home and god send me brilliant idea
tiny comet
Agent smith perk
crisp bronze
Or skittles
rancid cargo
Agent smith perk
That gun is a warcrime
rancid cargo
go lab and take gravity cancel as perk
you want them to test garnet with airwalker?
idle hearth
done
rancid cargo
thats just agent smith has aura
tiny comet
Calling the cops
rancid cargo
that neutral dodge does look cool
rancid cargo
but im ngl though my servers have been acting up
crisp bronze
Kinda
rancid cargo
sometimes ill just get really laggy games now
crisp bronze
Hmmm
idle hearth
because i tried to make this perk work before
and didnt find anything worth using it for
crisp bronze
Btw
Can you cast 2 moves on this platform?
idle hearth
nope
crisp bronze
Fck
idle hearth
it wouldve suprised me a lot
it does catch Neutral airdodge and airdodge IN
crisp bronze
Fair into clap would be disgusting tho
tiny comet
Fross trying to option select
crisp bronze
Considering how fast it kills
tiny comet
Reported
rancid cargo
banned
tiny comet
idle hearth
you could do ftilt (up) - reading the dodge into airwalker ftilt (up) - fair
i guess
crisp bronze
Not worth
idle hearth
yeah it would only work once
crisp bronze
Hmm
Fair into dash probably aint true too
Nah
Fck it
Will stay with weekness then
rancid cargo
weakness perk is ridiculous im ngl
crisp bronze
It is
reef ore
is jabbing as garnet just a death wish? im basically locked into place when using it (i mean when i whiff it)
rancid cargo
i wouldnt be suprised if it gets nerfed
crisp bronze
is jabbing as garnet just a death wish? im basically locked into place when usin...
In 2s?
crisp bronze
Then its not
Its kinda long
But dash jab is kinda good opening
Not my prefered one
But its usable
reef ore
idk i just think there are better options to hit someone than jab
crisp bronze
They are
rancid cargo
jab1 into nattack dodge jab 1 used to be so goated
reef ore
jab1 into nattack dodge jab 1 used to be so goated
im so much worse with garnet than i was in beta
its ridiculous
crisp bronze
I mean
Playing garnet on the ground is death wish tho
reef ore
I mean
Playing garnet on the ground is death wish tho
her dattack is pretty good tho right?
crisp bronze
Shockwave?
reef ore
yea
frozen iris
Jason is kind of a real boy after buffs. Did a long set with one. Ended after ge...
I'd say what I did but everyone would yell at me again.
rancid cargo
im so much worse with garnet than i was in beta
tbh its just cuz shes slow and has big hurtboxes
idle hearth
its really bad
crisp bronze
rancid cargo
her dattack is pretty good tho right?
it seems good until you realise that you can jump over it and you dont got armour on it anymore
idle hearth
I'd say what I did but everyone would yell at me again.
nah
crisp bronze
yep
reef ore
I mean
Playing garnet on the ground is death wish tho
when i play in the air im getting hit by antiairs and enemy aerials
idle hearth
Jason is REALLY bad
reef ore
Jason is REALLY bad
how do u figure
rancid cargo
Jason is REALLY bad
id argue he isnt im ngl
reef ore
after the buffs hes strong asl
crisp bronze
when i play in the air im getting hit by antiairs and enemy aerials
Then you doing something wrong
rancid cargo
ive played against a ton of Jason and the mfs advantage state is super scary its not even funny😭
idle hearth
how do u figure
well try to find a real reason to play him
crisp bronze
Bcs off alll things
Her air game is really good
crisp bronze
Even mika agree
idle hearth
big
reef ore
Then you doing something wrong
idk how to feel about nair. sair is goated and uair is goated too
crisp bronze
Nair is not as good at it was
idle hearth
his moves are slow
crisp bronze
Sair is goated
reef ore
he isnt killing that early
i can agree with the rest but ur bugging on this part
crisp bronze
Up air is her 2 best move
reef ore
dudes whole thing is killing early
rancid cargo
his moves are slow
how much good jasons have you fought
tiny comet
Anywho
crisp bronze
I would say they have similar killpower
tiny comet
These randoms in 2s getting demolished
rancid cargo
nah he kills stupid early with rage im ngl
reef ore
Garnet has probably better kill power
i personally dont see it. i have a haaard time killing with garnet. if i cant land the clap that is
tiny comet
rancid cargo
i personally dont see it. i have a haaard time killing with garnet. if i cant la...
killing on garnet isnt that bad
idle hearth
i personally dont see it. i have a haaard time killing with garnet. if i cant la...
Fair, Up air, Up b in the air
Dair
Dash attack
Shoulder bash???
rancid cargo
garnet got kill moves
crisp bronze
idk how to feel about nair. sair is goated and uair is goated too
Back to the topic
You need to change completly way you playing her
She is not like in beta
rancid cargo
it must be nice😢
reef ore
garnet got kill moves
shoulder bash and clap are good ones. idk what it is but i cant kill 100-120 with most of her other moves. yes thats including up air and up special
crisp bronze
She is closer to Batman/Shaggy than to bulky ww she used to be
reef ore
She is closer to Batman/Shaggy than to bulky ww she used to be
u wanna play sum mirrors?
reef ore
damn ok
crisp bronze
Hmm
@tiny comet
Send the link
To our spars
it will help you understand what im talking about
If you see how we play
rancid cargo
shoulder bash and clap are good ones. idk what it is but i cant kill 100-120 wit...
its more just practice tbh
idle hearth
ngl i have thought about a thing we as a community could do
how is everyone thinking about sending VODs here to improve
idle hearth
for example @reef ore here struggles to kill. Its hard to say what the current problem is
crisp bronze
its more just practice tbh
No no
You news to learn that shoulder is true combo to sair in most cases
If you know how to do it
calm thistle
https://youtu.be/737j5p3bY6I?si=PVYMin8T_f1Jt01O
I will analyze this frame by frame
frozen iris
I don't think he's amazing, and he is combo food. But his disjoints don't let you run at him for free. And Jab 1,2,bed, up air seems consistent now.
idle hearth
what if you just send a VOD of a game you thought you played decently well but lost?
crisp bronze
I mean
We have good community here
I can sometimes tell someone to get gut
But i will help
Sometimes
calm thistle
Anyways 5%
reef ore
https://youtu.be/737j5p3bY6I?si=PVYMin8T_f1Jt01O
1:42 how did fross instantly do a dash jab when landing on the ground?
rancid cargo
I don't think he's amazing, and he is combo food. But his disjoints don't let yo...
Jason?
crisp bronze
For me jason is even heavier, stronger hitting bannana guard
Disjoined but hitting like truck moves
Near 0 combos
rancid cargo
Fighting jason is honestly scary
crisp bronze
Ye
2 mistakes and you dead
rancid cargo
Jason combos only come from jab
rancid cargo
Jason combos only come from jab
the rest of them just hit you like a truck
tiny comet
Jason can get looped vs garnet just with combo down attack no elbows needed
rancid cargo
Ye
2 mistakes and you dead
Its why his advantage state is super scary
rancid cargo
if Jason got rage when he takes 100 dmg it might just be over for everyone
rancid cargo
But i think garnets is even more scary
I havent fought too many garnet mains so I cant tell you much
but Jason is scary
reef ore
multiple times in the first to 5 vid yall keep barely moving on the ground/just landing after an aerial but are able to use ur dash atk? how is that possible
crisp bronze
I havent fought too many garnet mains so I cant tell you much
I just want to say that if you are 40 damage and meterless
You in kill range
crisp bronze
multiple times in the first to 5 vid yall keep barely moving on the ground/just ...
Tap 2 times direction button
rancid cargo
ill spar with one of you lot tmmrw🙏
crisp bronze
rancid cargo
#NerfGarnetFor2024🗣️
tiny comet
#NerfGarnetFor2024🗣️
-2026🗣️
crisp bronze
I think she is stronger than people giving her credit
reef ore
im also noticing in the mirrors that yall basically dont play neutral at all 😭
its constant aggression
crisp bronze
Jokes on you
Im playing aggression in any match up
tiny comet
Dance em to death
rancid cargo
how do you play neutral on garnet anyway
crisp bronze
how do you play neutral on garnet anyway
It is possible
reef ore
how do you play neutral on garnet anyway
my playstyle is very neutral. i play around my jabs a lot which im noticing isnt happening too much in the mirror vids
tiny comet
Dance em to death
The answer
rancid cargo
The answer
the only answer🗣️
idle hearth
Jokes on you
Im playing aggression in any match up
STEVEN UNIVERSE 😡
idle hearth
true
crisp bronze
idle hearth
The shoulder bash reads
reef ore
i played garnet in beta but im not sure if i wanna main her no more. i mean she barely plays neutral and my playstyle involves a ton of neutral and playing around my jabs. should i consider switching and finding a new main?
crisp bronze
Shoulder is single handly making this matchup playable
tiny comet
Factual
rancid cargo
i played garnet in beta but im not sure if i wanna main her no more. i mean she ...
play her more
the benefit of playing lowtiers
tiny comet
Issa grind
idle hearth
if only garnet had a move with range which you could charge to have even more range on it which ON TOP OF THAT combos 😔 (Buff Down attack)
crisp bronze
i played garnet in beta but im not sure if i wanna main her no more. i mean she ...
You can Play neutral
Her projectiles makes it possible
Down attack need buff
reef ore
is that they’ll get buffed
that's not the reason i wanna swap mains tho. i just feel like how i play doesnt fit my main anymore. i could care less if garnet was meta or not, i like the character. but thing is im losing a ton of my matches because i feel like how im playing doesnt fit the character no more
crisp bronze
That's true
tiny comet
Nvm i got invited to baulders gate 3
idle hearth
that's not the reason i wanna swap mains tho. i just feel like how i play doesnt...
if you want to swap mains because you are losing
tiny comet
✌️
idle hearth
then its a mindset problem
rancid cargo
that's not the reason i wanna swap mains tho. i just feel like how i play doesnt...
then play garnet differently
idle hearth
a big one
rancid cargo
fighting Smith as marvin made me realise I gotta play against Smith differently because he can destroy my projectiles with his gun
reef ore
if you want to swap mains because you are losing
not rlly. i think i know why im losing and if i swap mains i might not get destroyed as much.
crisp bronze
As i said
She have playable neutral
Its not joker or Shaggy
But you can get a lot of it
idle hearth
if you would know why you are losing
then you wouldnt be losing
thats the classic fighting game moment right here
we THINK that we know something
but we dont
rancid cargo
mika cooking
crisp bronze
If you dont feel good playing her
Change her
Like
Nothing holding you to play her
But i think mika may be right
rancid cargo
most of the times its not really the characters fault unless ur playing jake or velma
crisp bronze
Mindset might be a problem
rancid cargo
i be feeling bad for jake mains though😭
reef ore
As i said
She have playable neutral
Its not joker or Shaggy
But you can get a ...
yeah but from what im seeing in the vids she isnt playing a ton of neutral. which i do. i play mostly on ground and aerial sometimes, usually for sair/uair.
rancid cargo
they really just gotta camp it out with stretchy punch cuz they lost bite being on no cooldown
reef ore
when i play in the air i get hit by antiairs/enemy aerials
crisp bronze
She is probably best at agressive neutral now
idle hearth
yeah but from what im seeing in the vids she isnt playing a ton of neutral. whic...
i maybe know what you are talking about
rancid cargo
yeah but from what im seeing in the vids she isnt playing a ton of neutral. whic...
why do you play sm neutral though
idle hearth
i played similar
rancid cargo
isnt that kinda boring
idle hearth
hitboxes are to janky and there is no shield in the game
Dodges are not consistent enough (i think)
thats why i personally am switching mains to Steven
because i dont like guessing
reef ore
Dodges are not consistent enough (i think)
definitely not. also i run out of dodge with garnet fast because as a big character im getting hit by moves a lot
idle hearth
i want to wait
crisp bronze
And im on other side of the spectrum
reef ore
i dont experience the same when playing someone like marvin. big on neutral, can play aggressive when he needs to but usually with his nasty set-ups for early kill potential
crisp bronze
I always played like monke on crack
rancid cargo
thats why i personally am switching mains to Steven
steven parry is really good
idle hearth
steven parry is really good
why?
crisp bronze
So new garnet is literaly created for me
idle hearth
its a normal parry since they giga nerfed my shield
rancid cargo
If you want to win
winning isnt necessarily fun that way though
crisp bronze
winning isnt necessarily fun that way though
Ye
But losing vs fodlers is not fun too
rancid cargo
6 free air parries and you still have 2 dodges 😭
and also this too
idle hearth
if you miss the parry you still get stevens bubble shield lol
no you dont anymore
crisp bronze
They berfed
idle hearth
Shield is frame what? 26?
idle hearth
one moment im checking it
rancid cargo
fr?
reef ore
winning isnt necessarily fun that way though
i find winning because i read the hell out of someone and they ran right into my set-up fun
crisp bronze
Tbh i think she is now best as an advantage marker
If you take control of the game
Game is free
Bcs she is disgustingly good at creating tempo
And have absurdly good advantage state
reef ore
brother mains steven and he told me nair went from 8 frames of punish to 20
idle hearth
pretty sure you're referring to his nair lmao
- Neutral dodge shield start-up increased to 20 frames from 8 frames; this adds a vulnerable window after a neutral dodge before shield begins
• - Directional dodge shield start-up increased to 10 frames from 4 frames
• - Bubble shield ammo cooldown increased to 13 seconds from 5 seconds
reef ore
- Neutral dodge shield start-up increased to 20 frames from 8 frames; this adds ...
guess nair got the same treatment then
nair got gutted but its still good u just gotta be smart
still better than garnet nair 🥹
idle hearth
guess nair got the same treatment then
- On-whiff branch window delayed 8 frames
ngl i love this change
reef ore
was needed
reef ore
i hated seeing stevens win because you landed 20 nairs and no one could punish you
idle hearth
i wish they would just remove his parry and make shield fast again
boom fixed
he still has a better dodge
but cant parry
the only bad t hing about it could be that it would remove part of his skill ceiling
which is a valid argument
crisp bronze
i hated seeing stevens win because you landed 20 nairs and no one could punish y...
Anyway
You seems like a guy who would like to play Shaggy or Batman
They have very good neutral
And can play agressive sometimes
reef ore
Anyway
You seems like a guy who would like to play Shaggy or Batman
only reason i think im still playing garnet is because i love the show and the character
ill be fr
reef ore
also i use the marker perk and dont ever set my marker down manually
is that a problem?
crisp bronze
I like her
And like how she is played
idle hearth
IM TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO FINALLY USE THIS BROKEN PERK
crisp bronze
is that a problem?
They are 2 schools
One that playing 5%
And one that playing marker
I think its preferance thing
For neutral marker seems better
reef ore
idk im starting to hate marker because when i try to place it manually i cant
and when i wanna use marker its all the way on the other side of the map and very obvious
idle hearth
(i think its a no brainer to use marker for more NEUTRAL options and disadvantage problems)
(i swear im done with this topic now i already annoyed everyone with it a couple of times)
crisp bronze
Ye
Marker is more defensive perk
5% is better when you want to create advantage states
Bcs you will fail like 2/3 times
reef ore
(i think its a no brainer to use marker for more NEUTRAL options and disadvantag...
im at disadvantage a ton
shes a big character with big hurtboxes
but i still dont find a lot of use in using marker
if i wanna recover they know where it is
idle hearth
When your offstage and trying to get back on ledge. throw your gauntlet to them on stage. they need to dodge it and it will create the star
reef ore
plus i get stuck on the side of the wall when using it most of the time anyway
idle hearth
now your on the walls
now you have 1 more option to get off ledge
with the perfectly placed marker ^^
reef ore
with the perfectly placed marker ^^
or they can just dodge the gauntlet into spiking you
that works too
i find thats what people do a lot
idle hearth
almsot no one can contest the gauntlet hitbox
crisp bronze
If you want to Play neutral marker gives you just more options
crisp bronze
i find thats what people do a lot
But you creating 50/50
You dont need to use it
So you playing mind games already
Tbh
Sometimes i think that star is doing more as an bait than as a grab
reef ore
ima just hope someone can run mirrors with me soon. i feel like im doing something really wrong
idle hearth
play with Fross then
hard gazelle
Tried to use Garnet again to beat the last smith level with a friend and I couldn't do it
crisp bronze
I will
But a bit later
hard gazelle
Did it before but I might be losing my touch
crisp bronze
Dont expect neutral from me
reef ore
Tbh
Sometimes i think that star is doing more as an bait than as a grab
its like a ranged jason armor. you wont waste all of their dodges but you'll get them in the air/away from the marker
idle hearth
but i will warn you. If you try to play like a hit and run character you WILL get run over by Fross
tried that once
never played the ditto with him again 🙂
crisp bronze
reef ore
but i will warn you. If you try to play like a hit and run character you WILL ge...
i might not want to play vs fross... 😟
idle hearth
He is the best guy to kick your ass and make you adapt with his annoying ass playstyle 😄
reef ore
im not a fan of dittos but they're great learning experiences
i just hate dittos. so so much.
and tom and jerry
him too
not even a mirror, i just hate tom and jerry. 😄
crisp bronze
I played today vs good tom player
idle hearth
Fross made me realise that Garnet isnt my character. I played M2 in smash which is pretty hit and run heavy. Garnet does not work like that
reef ore
Fross made me realise that Garnet isnt my character. I played M2 in smash which ...
my two smash mains were VASTLY different
sheik and king dedede
i dont know how i managed that
idle hearth
HUH
crisp bronze
He is the best guy to kick your ass and make you adapt with his annoying ass pla...
Bro got shouldered and insulting me
rancid cargo
mine were lucas and greninja
crisp bronze
My playstyle*
rancid cargo
sheik and king dedede
polar opposites
rancid cargo
And i didnt play smash
thats good
you didnt have to experience playing against steven or kazuya
or sonic
reef ore
polar opposites
one is the lightest the other is one of the heaviest. one has fast moves the other slow. i could go on about the differences but im sure you know
crisp bronze
Even i heard stories about steve
rancid cargo
i was a sonic main
OH NO
rancid cargo
Even i heard stories about steve
that character is a criminal
crisp bronze
Anyway
Idk
There is any heavy, agressive played character in smash?
reef ore
k rool for sure
rancid cargo
kazuya is relatively heavy and is aggressive asf
idle hearth
almost every heavy
reef ore
is aggro
rancid cargo
Anyway
Idk
There is any heavy, agressive played character in smash?
incineroar
idle hearth
actually i wouldnt say DDD
rancid cargo
DK got so much sauce
reef ore
actually i wouldnt say DDD
really? why not?
rancid cargo
dedede is more campy
idle hearth
he often needs to respect so many moves by spacing etc
like imagine playing DDD vs kaz
he will NOT move at all
crisp bronze
I think someone said one time that garnet is bowser of multiversus
Idk what he doing so idk if its true
idle hearth
I think someone said one time that garnet is bowser of multiversus
Idk what he...
ngl i think you cant compare Multiversus with smash.
having No shield and grabs changes everything
crisp bronze
Of course
idle hearth
which confuses me so much
you as a brawlhalla player are probably more experienced right? xD
idle hearth
the weird thing is i didnt had nearly enough roblems with brawlhalla compared to multiversus
crisp bronze
Bcs in brawl you didnt have delay
rancid cargo
having No shield and grabs changes everything
thank goodness for it though
idle hearth
because brawlhallas movement is just so crazy
rancid cargo
or we might have had a character with game and watch up B
idle hearth
thats my way of playing defensively
it feels like in this game
it doesnt exist
defensive play
crisp bronze
Tbh passive gameplay is meta from like 2 yeras
rancid cargo
brawlhalla combos are messed up
crisp bronze
Brawl players are build diffrent tho
I swear
Amount of 1 frame dodges these people doing is insane
upbeat fable
Fross
idle hearth
i remember that i labbed brawlhalla once
idle hearth
I played Gauntlets
rancid cargo
I'm bored out of my mind fighting top tiers in que
fight a jake main fr
upbeat fable
Anyone here wanna play