#Garnet

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crisp bronze
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Cant rn

upbeat fable
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Gauntlets or shoulder bash, dash attack is also a good burst option and throwing out grounded up special is never a bad idea

crisp bronze
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I see nair as disengage tool

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Like
Its the only move that stops my hyper agression in ditto match up

rigid storm
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SO I NEVER ATTACK FROM ABOVW?

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that makes you so predictable

crisp bronze
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Nah

upbeat fable
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It's better for dodge reads

crisp bronze
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Its predictable from above actualy

upbeat fable
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But yea that too

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Air options from right above the opponent are so limited

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You're a horizontal character

crisp bronze
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Btw
Skittles showed me yesterday how strong nlight isb

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Idk

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Its faster and have smaller end lag than i tough

crisp bronze
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She is all rouner for me

upbeat fable
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Yea I suppose

crisp bronze
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Her worst position rn is when you above someone

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Your options are whacky nair

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And dair that need good timing when not on the ground

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We dont talk about grounded dair

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Its stupid af

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💀

upbeat fable
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Yea

crisp bronze
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Btw
Other topic

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Im slowly developing new way i play her

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Im using shoulder as an read tool after combo

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This move can catch every dodge outside up and down

upbeat fable
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Yes

crisp bronze
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Like
Im doing sair into shoulder
Im waiting for move or predicting
And im casting another elbow

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Its literaly almost 50/50 move

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That if i hit i get another 30+ damage

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And someone said that garnet doesnt have damage

I will repeat it one more time

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Garnet lacks in lot of things
BUT NOT IN DAMAGE BUILD UP

idle hearth
wicked tusk
crisp bronze
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With elbow or dash attack?

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Its preaty easy

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And her punish game is decent with sair

upbeat fable
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Yea

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Anyone else just hate fighting Taz

idle hearth
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Having only one approch tool?

crisp bronze
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as a suprise nair is not bad once in a while

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and sair is usable

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as approch

idle hearth
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Yeah but Nairs range isnt that great

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And its slow

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My problem was to even get in that range

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Well now its A LOT easier because of Marker garnet_excited

crisp bronze
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I still think marker is a gimmic

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I prefer star as stage controll tool

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And back up tool

tiny comet
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Both

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And sairs too

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Solid tool

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Spacing is key in the air with garnet

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You dont wanna whiff you’ll get punished on most moves

tiny comet
frozen iris
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Last night GSMVoid streamed with TKBreezy on Garnet on Twitch. Check out the vod if you want to see some really strong Garnet in 2s gameplay.

deft torrent
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who else numb?

tiny comet
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I’ll wait for the yt

idle hearth
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star doesnt do much infront of you

rigid storm
idle hearth
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I have a Question to all of the 2s Garnet players

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I tried starting playing more 2s but the Connection of these matches are god awful compared to the average 1s matches

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Is it because im playing with new Players rn? i have never played 2s xd

idle hearth
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is he good in Multiversus?

tiny comet
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😅

idle hearth
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ah wait

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i have crossplay on

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maybe thats why

tiny comet
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To be fair

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Multiversus over heats my playstation

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Game causes alot of problems for 12 gb compared to my all my other games i have

frozen iris
signal dirge
tiny comet
tiny comet
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Play three games of ffa

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Last three games all get desynced

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Four

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👀

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This man had 22k wins as garnet

novel copper
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didja win

tiny comet
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I did

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But it was free for all to be fair

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He was alright but he was just spamming nair like he was bugs bunny

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jerry_fist this solves that

crisp bronze
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Bro probably used exploit

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To ramp up

mellow veldt
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also could just be macroing dying in a minigame stage of rifts

tiny comet
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😂

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Jumping rope is an automatic w too

mellow veldt
tiny comet
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😂

signal dirge
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Can garnet just have some range in the reflect i cant like hop above while singing

crisp bronze
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In beta

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There is no way to make 20 k without Marco

tiny comet
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1,500 from beta

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Almost a K after release

crisp bronze
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I played like 200

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And 1800 in beta

tiny comet
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Garnet feels good, she just thicc

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Garnet A tier

calm thistle
idle hearth
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HUH

signal dirge
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Garnet isnt a tier lmao

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Bottom -2

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Dont tell them

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Gatekeep garnet

idle hearth
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BOTTOM 2???

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She is better than

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Velma

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Marvin

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Jake

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uhh

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Jason

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damn thats it

signal dirge
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No not bottom 2

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bottom -2

idle hearth
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tf is bottom -2

signal dirge
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As in preemptively worse than the next 2 unreleased fighters

idle hearth
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💀

signal dirge
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also velma is menace now

drowsy arch
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hello... I'm new ish to garnet (first week) and I was wondering if anyone can help me learn BNBs?

What do you think I shoul learn?

idle hearth
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Jab into side b (shoulderbash) into either Up air or Side air

drowsy arch
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this is at low damage right?

idle hearth
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honestly works on a wide percentage

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keep in mind she doesnt have many TRUE combos anymore

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just frametraps and strings

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and its important how your enemies DI

signal dirge
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Shes more a flow state advantage character

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You can sorta connect alot and typically get 2 safe options in advantage but if you predict wrong you return to neutral

idle hearth
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i can only say that Side b (shoulder bash), Nair, Jab (up), Side b (downwards gauntlets) etc will lead into some stuff

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up air juggles are important

tiny comet
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Punch em into the dirt

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Dont get caught whiffing down attack

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😂

idle hearth
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Kill confirms are mostly Shoulder bash into Fair/up air

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Jab into UP B (clap)

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Dash attack

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Fair/Nair for edgeguarding

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and up air kills too

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just dont use Down attack ^^

tiny comet
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Dair charged ground explosion

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And neutral punch charged

idle hearth
tiny comet
idle hearth
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slow

tiny comet
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Need to use it

idle hearth
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and predictable

tiny comet
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Its op

idle hearth
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how

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its so predictable

drowsy arch
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thanks I read all that u said

tiny comet
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You gotta believe

idle hearth
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no 😄

tiny comet
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Damns

signal dirge
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Dtilt is good in 2s with the speed

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but you haft predict run up

idle hearth
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At ledge its so much safer and better to use Nair,Side b gauntlets etc

signal dirge
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True there

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dtilt clap is good

tiny comet
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Nahhh

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Safer to dair

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Or rocket punch then dair

signal dirge
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Clap kills earlier tho

tiny comet
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When it hits correctly harley1

signal dirge
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Also unless ur at ledge u are not landing explosive dair

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Get good and hit it then?

tiny comet
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Only thing that kills early

signal dirge
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Exactly

tiny comet
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Maybe sair and sairs

signal dirge
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All early killers w garnet is a gamble

tiny comet
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Dair aoe underestimated

signal dirge
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but dtilt is safer than big punch and it connects into alot

tiny comet
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Its hit box is

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Op

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⬅️↖️⬆️↗️➡️
↙️↘️

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Can do some cheeky stuff on platforms too

signal dirge
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Its a good safe edge guard if youre to slow for nair

tiny comet
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I’d rather dair spike charged in air and nair to spike again

signal dirge
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Well depends on percent since you can combio dair to sair to bash

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well maybe thats untrue

tiny comet
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It isnt true per say but

signal dirge
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Noone really stops it

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dtilt will 2 frame for jab shoulder sair at ledge

idle hearth
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guys why am i always better with mid - high tiers rather than top tiers. Steven now got nerfed and i suddently figured him out (kinda)

signal dirge
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High tiers are never fun

idle hearth
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Steven is great

signal dirge
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I used to main him but i dropped him when they nerfed his def

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garnets much more fun

toxic walrus
signal dirge
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Never + mald

idle hearth
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nah L opinion

signal dirge
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If low tiers got 100 fans im w em

idle hearth
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So you will drop garnet when the devs finally buff her? 😄

signal dirge
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Probably not but im just gonna hope it dont happen

idle hearth
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weird

tiny comet
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No buffs

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Only nerfs

toxic walrus
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why

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why don't you want your favorite character to feel better

idle hearth
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Nerf Shoulder back for one tiny Down attack buff which changes nothing 😄

tiny comet
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If i get any better with this character

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Will be broken

toxic walrus
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show people our char

idle hearth
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How good characters are wont change how good you are

tiny comet
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How else will i gatekeep

signal dirge
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EXACTLY

idle hearth
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i mained a low Mid tier in Smash

signal dirge
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MY MAN

idle hearth
signal dirge
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mald

idle hearth
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and have done quite well 🙂

signal dirge
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This might be the first time i support the skittles squad

tiny comet
idle hearth
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i miss the old skittles

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the "punch em into the dirt"

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😔

tiny comet
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I am ecstatic

idle hearth
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you changed man 😦

tiny comet
idle hearth
signal dirge
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Only true garnet enjoyers want that heavy hitter vibe

idle hearth
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but to be honest is it wrong from me to say that Garnet is already figured out?

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how much Tech and combos are left

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maybe im just a doomer

signal dirge
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Ik it doesnt get better so the tier will only get lower :3

tiny comet
idle hearth
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Then what part of her kit do you think needs more testing?

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im completely down to go to the lab again

tiny comet
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I think all alot garnets have different playstyles and tendencies

hard gazelle
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For example I like "punch hard repeatedly"

idle hearth
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She needs to work around things yeah

tiny comet
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I learn something new from fross everytime i play, he different

idle hearth
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but her main goal will be the same

signal dirge
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I think garnet is about fundamentals and 50 50s so it HAS to be different for each person

idle hearth
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but not in a ditto

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i hate the garnet ditto

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it feels soo

signal dirge
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TRUE

idle hearth
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braindead?

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is probably the wrong word

tiny comet
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“Pokemon”?

signal dirge
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Its explosive and brawly alot of time your clashing shoulders and wondering who will be put in advantage

idle hearth
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honestly its a lot of guesses

signal dirge
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Why do i run out of actions i can do in the aifr

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Like i get put into a freefall

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I can jump but no attacks

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Is it a mechanic a bug?

tiny comet
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Aifr?

idle hearth
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2 specials limit?

signal dirge
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IS THAT IT?

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i thought that as just for movement

tiny comet
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Two specials two dodges two jumps

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Can spam up attack to hover

signal dirge
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Intresting

tiny comet
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Also neutral special to float like steven

signal dirge
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Black adam is still the most annoying thing

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Like tom is a worse matchup but hes 10x more tolerable

tiny comet
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Gotta focus up vs those guys

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Ba just an ass

signal dirge
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Even winning is just a terrible experience

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Iron giant is more pleasant i swear

tiny comet
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And his up air getting the change makes it worse for garnet

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Factual

signal dirge
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Even if he was given only 1 damage oer attack his whole design is atrocious

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I kinda really like dtilt now

tiny comet
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Its something

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I guess

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In ffa its great

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In 1s its ass

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In 2s its okay

frozen iris
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After watching TK, I'm a believer in set the star on the outer wall during disadvantage. Grab an opponent, they bounce of the wall, read one option and they are dead.

signal dirge
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Glad you came around

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Its obviously strong tho

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You just shouldnt run to ledge to try it

frozen iris
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Yeah only set it when you are knocked off stage and not getting chased. Seriously, watch him play. He makes Garnet look so fast.

tiny comet
calm thistle
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Tom and Jerry still painful as ever to fight as garnet 😭

tiny comet
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Pains

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The grind continues

toxic walrus
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Doesn't seem like they fixed the marker cheese.

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I just suicide kos twice on accident

tiny comet
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Kos?

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Also cool

toxic walrus
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ko'd

tiny comet
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Well isnt it obvious why

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😏 no dev plays garnet

calm thistle
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Better for the worst

tiny comet
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Anybody else do rifts here

golden sapphire
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I tried doing rifts solo but the higher difficulties are completely BS when you’re by yourself

signal dirge
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So did they just lie when they said shaggy can no longer true kill from reverse utilt to upspecial?

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Because he still can even without charge

tiny comet
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Had to whip out the garnet

burnt terrace
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haiii yall

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my friend wanted to know

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are there any combos that go into downair/tilt?

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as in just have them in the combo

frozen iris
burnt terrace
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lmao

tiny comet
tiny comet
past pendant
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what oerks are we running niw ppl?

tiny comet
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5% snow ball, movement speed or weakness perk, puglist

tiny comet
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Lost to a jason cause i forgot to flip my triggers to dodge

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Ofc he didnt rematch

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Smh

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Poor superman

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Loops and armor still lose..,

past pendant
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skittles u gotta send combo clipdclips amd pin them

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i just did a first to ten and lost to a joker

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the score was 5-4

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then nro locked in

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ending score 5-10

hard gazelle
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Beating that T&J/Reindog fight on Insanity with just Garnet felt amazing

tiny comet
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It happens

rancid cargo
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hows garnet feeling rn

calm thistle
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Still really bad as ever

tiny comet
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Pretty okay

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But im not playing 24/7

exotic hemlock
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make garnet superman

hard gazelle
signal dirge
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Trash. Also. Give her something to replace 5%

past pendant
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i just need a post nerf combo guide or tips or something

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cuz im still playing like she got loops😅

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Help Me BRATHAS AND SISTAS

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Sorry im playing a lot of gibby in apex

exotic hemlock
signal dirge
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Marker : allies cannot pick up your star but opponents can. Being interrupted in flight removes the star

exotic hemlock
past pendant
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garnet vs dc characters and shaggy feels like boss battles

tiny comet
tiny comet
rare glen
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I looked over at the WW channel and saw someone say Garnet is better than WW. Are we just missing something? 😭

fleet birch
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Maybe playing the most op character gets to their heads?

crisp bronze
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and after it i didn't lose to any ww

tiny comet
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Like i said

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I dont struggle vs wonder woman as garnet

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Only thing that will cause me problems are her up air s and her sair

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Which they got nerfed so…

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They got their shield stuff gutted

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I just wanted sair slightly nerfed

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Its bg sair spam, it was o.d with my big ah hitbox

tiny comet
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Me vs Fross prepatch first to ten

calm thistle
tiny comet
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Still dont understand gizmo matchup

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That boyo is random

crisp bronze
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^

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i get better at it tho

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but its still a problem

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arya is still my biggest head ache

idle hearth
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New Garnet skin will drop in S2 pog

tiny comet
idle hearth
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and still no fcking ranked news

novel copper
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So... incidentally... I found out that Garnet can reflect Smith's backup Agents.

toxic walrus
tiny comet
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Im dodginnnnn

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😏

tiny comet
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Corns in my hands from pushin buttons

tiny comet
idle hearth
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honestly

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i dont think so

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there was no reason to not show it

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right?

signal dirge
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Not revealing your hand till you have to is game dev 101

tiny comet
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Games not ready yet server wise

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Imo ofc

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Alot game desyncs, random hits not killing for no reason etc

novel copper
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Yeah, Ranked in its current state would probably make things worse

crisp bronze
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the problem is if they want people to stay
they NEED
to make rankeds

tiny comet
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Truth

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Nothing to do besides rifts once a main character maxed

signal dirge
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Well I don't think multiversus comp scene will ever truly be taken serious. I mean. Smash still isn't even taken seriously by the fgc

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Also multiversus is fun because playing it is fun

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Honestly if they stopped the battle pass rifts missions etc and just released a character every month or two I'd still be playing it frequently

crisp bronze
signal dirge
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Exactly

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It's fine to have a less than optimal ranked experience

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Tho I mostly say that from overwatch and siege

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As long as a desync doesn't lose you points I'm fine

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Rn besides just self value there's very little way to know how you stack with the pop

crisp bronze
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you dont understand

a lot of people will play rankeds, even in this state over what we have no

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w

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people love playing rankeds

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its competetive
but not tourneys

signal dirge
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People will play it either way. If they get mad they get mad

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And then they come back tomorrow

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How you react to a videogame is on you. Not pfg

tiny comet
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If they could implement tourneys in game

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It’ll break the game

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😂

signal dirge
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They tried w smash. It sucked

tiny comet
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Aint street fighter

signal dirge
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This ain't street fighter either lmal

tiny comet
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Still good for what it is

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😏

crisp bronze
signal dirge
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I think expecting this game to be balanced and with no bugs is a pipedream

tiny comet
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But room for improvement

crisp bronze
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is addicting for a lot

signal dirge
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Release ranked

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Exactly. I'm just saying they can add ranked whenever.

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No matter the state of the game

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And it'll still be a success

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Simply because people like ranked

wicked tusk
signal dirge
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I hope so too. And I hope they do repairs

tiny comet
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Who ever made my weekly quest to parry 10 attacks in week, your moms is not a very nice lady

signal dirge
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Just fight Jason in the rifts on like intermediate

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He's easy to parry

tiny comet
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Naaaa

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Im dodginnn

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Both irl and in game

signal dirge
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That's just inefficient. If they want me to play a DC character or something I'm booting up jump rope

crisp bronze
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i mean
multiversus droped to 6 k people on steam
at 24 h peak

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its very small amount

tiny comet
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Dont even need to jump just press retry

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Clutch jump rope

tiny comet
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😏

signal dirge
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Well who is playing on steam?

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Like everyone I see is ps5

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Or xbox

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I never see the pc icon

tiny comet
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Pc icon same as xbox icon

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Or the no icon at times

signal dirge
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Well it's typically ps5 for me.

tiny comet
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Or could be a bot

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Rng

signal dirge
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Yeah the bots are multiversus too

tiny comet
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Gotta taunt to find out

signal dirge
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Like it's not just someone grinding an account

crisp bronze
signal dirge
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So yeah. Both not steam players

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Like any other free to play game consols dominate the player count

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I have a pc with a 4080 and I still use my ps5

tiny comet
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Hmm

signal dirge
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It's just comfier

tiny comet
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I c i c

dense pine
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Major question did garnet lose her ringout badge?

signal dirge
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WHAT

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I use my pc for triple a games and stuff that I mod. Indi games too. If I wanna replay rdr2 I use pc. I would never play a fighter on pc

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Unless I bought one of those funny ones with a thumb stick

tiny comet
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Can only get it through rng from the shop that rotates

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I got garnet announcer pack from it 10% off

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Wasnt part of the battle pass

dense pine
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What??

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So does this mean I have to repurchase everything cause I have majority of what would be in it

tiny comet
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Maybe it’ll be in the next battle pass

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Who knows

dense pine
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And is that only for garnet cause I've got other ringout badges for other caracters I haven't used

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Shoooooot

tiny comet
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Some others too

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Ringouts were part of the battle pass most characters not all

fleet birch
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whats a rift boss node?

tiny comet
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Final part of the rift

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Normally last part in the middle

toxic walrus
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if you are

tiny comet
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Saaaay lessssss

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Send the invite DBlockInc

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Im bout to get smashed (no diddy)

tiny comet
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Got my ah

toxic walrus
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had to switch perks rq

tiny comet
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I got sweaty

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Ngl

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Greeeeeed

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Im getting cooooooked

toxic walrus
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i saw that early taunt

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:^)

tiny comet
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Im taunter

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For funsies

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Im getting cooked

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1-4

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Comeback season

toxic walrus
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demon time

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😈

dense pine
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Can I run 1 with either of yall garnet_excited

toxic walrus
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man I always fall for the pawnch

tiny comet
toxic walrus
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bro

tiny comet
toxic walrus
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gaunt just came off cd

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bad timing

tiny comet
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3-4

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I believe!!!

toxic walrus
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nah i aint going down like that

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no way

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no way bro

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bro please

tiny comet
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4-4

toxic walrus
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ima choke

dense pine
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Oh shi

tiny comet
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Ggs either way

toxic walrus
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yerp

tiny comet
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5-4 ggs

toxic walrus
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ggs

tiny comet
toxic walrus
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Would love to run it back whenever you're free, haven't played much since the patch.

tiny comet
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Same, another time

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Playing like a dragon rn

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Had me sweatin

dense pine
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Had to pull out the ancient techniques?

tiny comet
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Just needed to be more consistent with my approaches

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And the handy dandy jerry_fist

toxic walrus
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I just couldn't make adjustments to counter your punch, if I actually used it more I'm sure I could but I just don't. It recovers too fast to punish most of the time.

tiny comet
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🗝️

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I was getting cooked 1-4

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I had to adjust

crisp bronze
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Hog got robbed from IAD and he getting good

tiny comet
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He’s got solid spacing and pressure too

crisp bronze
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Ye

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That's true

tiny comet
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But

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No further comments

crisp bronze
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I swear

The harder you think the more often you will fall fall for this move

toxic walrus
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Yep.

crisp bronze
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Bro charging it to full every time

toxic walrus
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That's exactly what my issue is.

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I overthink it.

tiny comet
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I’ll whiff if i see you delay your fall

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We’ll both recover together

crisp bronze
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Btw
If you burn enamy meter you can kill anyone from 30 from any part of the map

tiny comet
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Same with dair

tiny comet
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I was getting cooked

crisp bronze
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Like
Stairs combo ragdolling you entire map for some reasons

toxic walrus
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I took him from center stage to top left corner while he was in burnout lol.

crisp bronze
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Ye

tiny comet
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Best i could do was trade shoulders

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Or fast fall

crisp bronze
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Jab elbow jump sair elbow jump sair up air

toxic walrus
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I ended with up special because im special

crisp bronze
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You had air options for it?

toxic walrus
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I only did one rep

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of shoulder

crisp bronze
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Oh

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On higher % its probably enough

toxic walrus
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well, refreshed on a plat

crisp bronze
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Ohhh

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Make sense now

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Anyway
Idk
You still think she is week hog?

toxic walrus
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I think she doesn't stand a chance now against top tiers, and a decent chunk of high tiers.

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I think our problem matchups got way worse.

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IAD was a gamechanger that let her actually do something when she landed a hit. I think her identity shouldn't be shoulder charge cancer queen, but a simple character with some nuance if you dig for it.

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I would appreciate if she had more combo routes if they're gonna take away her IAD loops.

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Because frankly.

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She has no sauce.

crisp bronze
#

After all nerf to top tiers i think she can stand her ground vs almost every character

toxic walrus
#

Outside of burnout combos.

crisp bronze
#

I mean
She have really good reading options

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A lot of 50/50s

toxic walrus
#

I don't like that. Why does Garnet need to be a 50/50 character, when she has always had some sort of cancel to extend her combos?

crisp bronze
#

I mean
Its again the covo about why she should have loop when others dont

We talked about it already ...

toxic walrus
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It doesn't have to be a loop though!

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Go back to my earlier comment.

toxic walrus
crisp bronze
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I mean
She still have like 2-3 40 damage true combo

toxic walrus
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They're not true on most of the cast.

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Anything involving upspecial for good damage, you might as well toss those out.

crisp bronze
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Jab elbow tpose is true in like 90% cases

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And it did like 38 damage

toxic walrus
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Yeah. That's off one opener.

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See my point.

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I want more options to start combos.

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Jab 2 Up.

crisp bronze
#

Elbow sair tpose

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Is true too

toxic walrus
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True under very specific conditions and DI.

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Is not true.

crisp bronze
#

Its not for some reasons

toxic walrus
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I mean an honest, true combo that works on most of the cast barring outliers.

crisp bronze
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Elbow jump sair works near every time for me

crisp bronze
#

Idk why they took it away

toxic walrus
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I'm telling you, allowing 1 IAD sair opens up so much cool stuff.

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Side swap sair > jab > downspecial

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JUST ONE IAD SAIR AFTER JAB

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THATS ALL PFG

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It'd make up special more reliable as well!

crisp bronze
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Told you
Write to supp

Better than writing it here

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Tbh with my playstyle i just need song buff

toxic walrus
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Send me the support link and I will.

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Right now.

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I'm passionate.

crisp bronze
#

So i can whitstand 2 stack buff entire match

toxic walrus
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I'm fired up.

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If they buffed the speed boost on song I'd sing so much.

crisp bronze
#

Boost is ok
With speed perk its really noticable

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My head Cannon is that on 2 stack buff a lot of things becomes true

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But i'm too lazy to lab it

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Just give me normal end lag on sing

tiny comet
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Weapon of mass destruction

crisp bronze
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And my gamestyle becomes 50% more threatning

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Enamy cant have good neutral if you dont let them Play neutral

dense pine
#

Just made a shaggy mad at me for life crying_steven

tiny comet
#

Punch em into the dirt

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The trashhhh

crisp bronze
#

If you made Shaggy main angry
You did something good in life

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Especialy these passive fuckerss who's last touch of a woman was their mom

dense pine
#

Hit em with the salt emoji and he ran it back just to to get folded again

tiny comet
fleet birch
#

anyone got a way to get quick xp?

crisp bronze
dense pine
#

Ran that one right after 🤣🤣

tiny comet
#

Need a taunt in the game that flips people off

dense pine
#

Give us one that points to the ground like that one elden ring taunt

tiny comet
#

L for pg version middle finger for expletive version

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Make me a dev too

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Probably give that taunt to harley or joker

crisp bronze
#

I mean
Making joker and Harley without any sharper words or good, more adult world puns its big L

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Its almost like making 100% family friendly deadpool

idle hearth
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active clan scene, Weeklies Grind servers etc

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Its weird to see how little Multiversus has that

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Like Clans is one of the most normal and best things you could have for beginners

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i thought more games would have it

tiny comet
idle hearth
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idk mabye its just a thing in the German community

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Sadly most of the german fgc players are smash players

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which means the german part of Multiversus is dead

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like EXTREMELY dead

tiny comet
#

💀

signal dirge
idle hearth
#

hmm idk maybe its just unfair to compare it to smash

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it just doesnt feel the same at all

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the Smash bros German Grind server is 5 times as active as the EU Multiversus Grind server

toxic walrus
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tbh Smash felt like it hated combos and fast gameplay and Beta Multiversus didn't. Now, I'd say it's way more like Smash than before.

idle hearth
#

hated combos??

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who did you play?

toxic walrus
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Combo-combos, true, not strings.

idle hearth
#

yeah

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who did you play?

toxic walrus
#

Incen.

idle hearth
#

oh

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makes sense

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i mean honestly i like it better that way

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than having to deal with TRUE 50 % combos

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on a easy combo starter

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which is basically multiversus

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especially annoying without shield

toxic walrus
#

True, that is annoying, especially if they don't need to use dodge meter.

idle hearth
#

honestly i still dont know if being defensive sometimes is even worth it

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its so hard to actually be defensive

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without having a shield

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advantage game is cracked in this game

toxic walrus
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Parry was the only thing that we had that had good risk vs reward in the defenders favor.

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And they nerfed that.

idle hearth
#

i wonder why they chose to not give Multiversus a shield tbh

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im a smash player so im obviously biased

toxic walrus
#

No grabs I guess.

tiny comet
#

I was good at smash but my friends didnt like that picked parry characters

idle hearth
idle hearth
#

having shield and grab

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?

tiny comet
#

Casually i guess

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I didnt actually own the game

idle hearth
#

oh

tiny comet
#

But have good fighting game sense

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Its all the same imo

toxic walrus
#

Yeah, it is fun. I come from the FGC, and Smash has more of a standard Strike-Block-Throw gameplay to it.

tiny comet
#

No life gamer crying_steven

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Touches grass

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🙂‍↔️

idle hearth
#

i just dont like neutral play anymore

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its just guessing

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"when will he dodge"

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does his move have Prio?

tiny comet
#

He dodged

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Release

idle hearth
#

with shield you can atleast pressure something

tiny comet
idle hearth
#

take stage control safely

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without being instant bursed down by Arya which is literally to fast to react

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but i dont want to complain about it

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its clearly a skill issue

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from my end

toxic walrus
#

The year is 20MM. Multiversus players have gotten so good that the game is decided on who dodges first in the set.

tiny comet
#

If you charge neutral alot they spam anti armor

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But you adjust to that by hitting them instead with sair or sairs

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Garnet has superman kind of stage carry at times

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But its alot 50/50

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But if you bait dodges and react its 70:30

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Even up air attack hits on second hit even if they guess right

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As long as you follow their dodge

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Its clutch

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Makes em go ⬆️↗️

signal dirge
#

I like charging it after forward jab and down jab at low percents

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Also I do down jab way more than the others simply because it's cooler

tiny comet
signal dirge
#

At ledge it's almost guaranteed they inwards dodge

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And if you condition that. Up special starts giving you more jabs

tiny comet
#

Ledge either get hit by this rocket or dodge it and get hit by this jerry_fist

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jerry_fist is death on ledges

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@signal dirge who you seeing alot of in 2s?

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And why isnt it harley quinn 😂

true fiber
#

Just lost against a 21k wins garnet

don’t even know how he managed to get that

novel copper
#

Probably a beta player

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or even a pre-beta tester

crisp bronze
tiny comet
#

Bro never stopped the grind

idle hearth
#

Multiversus aint it i guess

tiny comet
#

😂

crisp bronze
#

I mean

idle hearth
crisp bronze
#

You cant have competerive when fcking rankeds dont ezist

tiny comet
#

I miss psasbr

crisp bronze
tiny comet
#

My precious Jak and daxter

crisp bronze
#

Add 1-2 more and only way you can play is waiting

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@idle hearth look how arya and Shaggy players plays.
They literaly waiting entire match to punish your moves

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Its extreamly unfun to play against

idle hearth
#

yeah

crisp bronze
#

YOU CANT
have more defensive tools in this game

tiny comet
crisp bronze
idle hearth
tiny comet
#

Had superman force me to chase him around

idle hearth
#

and adding shield would not mean that you would be able to punis heverything on shield

tiny comet
#

I was up 2 stocks

idle hearth
#

attacks can be save too

tiny comet
#

He still want me to chase

crisp bronze
#

Wait
You talking about replasing dodge or just to add shield grab?

tiny comet
#

But i get penalized for camping

tiny comet
#

For everyone

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Ea sports

crisp bronze
tiny comet
#

Its in the game

tiny comet
crisp bronze
#

Anyway i think versus have actualy good balanse between offense and defense

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You can play passive neutral
But hyper aggression works too thx to meter burn

idle hearth
#

there are dodges

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parries with shield

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and grabd

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i just dont like the hyperaggressive Advantagestate rn

crisp bronze
#

Hmmm
Smash is much more faster
So def tools are harder to use tho

idle hearth
#

and the many guesses you have to make in neutral

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making im just burned out with garnet idk

crisp bronze
#

Change character then

idle hearth
#

playing steven rm

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rn*

crisp bronze
#

Steven after nerfs is finaly fair to play against

idle hearth
#

I wouldve liked it if they had nerfed his defensive play by REMOVING parry

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making it fair with shield

crisp bronze
#

Wanna play few mika?

idle hearth
#

now you cant use shield reactively anymore xD

crisp bronze
#

Inner piece

#

🙏

idle hearth
crisp bronze
#

K

crisp bronze
#

There still much more i can bring from her

tiny comet
#

I got burnout too so i understand

idle hearth
#

im ready

crisp bronze
#

Ok
Gimme moment to and lezzpllaay

idle hearth
tiny comet
#

Agent smith got 4 perks

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Call the cops

idle hearth
tiny comet
#

My bad

#

Unique perks

crisp bronze
#

xd

#

tf happened

idle hearth
#

did you disconnected

crisp bronze
#

idk

#

get ready once again

idle hearth
#

btw you have standard perks

#

is that intentional?

crisp bronze
#

ok. i have 1 bad perk

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or 2

idle hearth
#

huh

crisp bronze
#

idk whats going onj

#

wait

idle hearth
#

are the servers broken or what

#

xD

crisp bronze
#

lets try now

tiny comet
#

Sometimes if you login too fast resets all your characters to lvl 1 with no custom perks

#

Its a common bug just gotta relog or play a few games

crisp bronze
#

wtf
I went into perk selection and game says i dont have character

#

xDD

tiny comet
#

Its a server snyc issue

crisp bronze
#

holy fck
after every dair im like

#

he will use something else this time

#

rigt?

#

RIGHT?

tiny comet
#

😂

idle hearth
#

😄

tiny comet
#

Smash (no diddy)

idle hearth
#

trust me i will do something different

tiny comet
#

If it aint broke

crisp bronze
#

ok. steven is one of the hardest character to play vs super agressivly

frozen iris
crisp bronze
#

but will trye

frozen iris
crisp bronze
#

getting grasp of this match up

#

hitboxes are bullshitt

#

tho

tiny comet
#

If youre going against steven armor killer

#

No blocks for gem boyo

crisp bronze
#

I CANT CHANGE PERKSSS

tiny comet
#

Premade 33333

crisp bronze
#

will need to reset game probably

tiny comet
#

Rip

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Ripx2

crisp bronze
#

CLLLLLEAN

tiny comet
#

Mr clean 👨‍🦲?

crisp bronze
#

yes

#

msr elbow prediction

#

@idle hearth

idle hearth
#

i really need to use down air more with garnet

crisp bronze
#

let me restart to have perks

idle hearth
#

the way you use it is goated

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ok dw

#

didnt know that the hitbox is that big

crisp bronze
#

it is

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i need to play neutral vs steven

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you cant play hiper agression vs someone with that much stage controll tools

idle hearth
#

Fair is a crazy get off me tool

crisp bronze
#

i dont know his hitboxes

#

thats my biggest problems

#

like. i was 100% sure im safe in a lot of cases

idle hearth
#

honestly not that much to know i think. Fair is just disjointed and up air has a stupid hitbox

#

thats it i think

#

the rules resetted btw

#

oh abnd neutral special

crisp bronze
#

normal perks

idle hearth
#

the end of its hitbox

crisp bronze
#

finaly

idle hearth
#

kinda stupid

crisp bronze
#

THIS MELLON FCKER BUGGED

#

TF WHAS THAT

idle hearth
#

XD

crisp bronze
#

but ye

#

normal perks and slower pase works wonders

idle hearth
#

i gotta respect your shoulderbash more

#

hitbox stays out for so long

signal dirge
idle hearth
#

im never ready for it

crisp bronze
#

this move is steven dair level threat

signal dirge
#

Also steven is one of my favorite fights

#

He just plays slow af and you hafta beat him by punishing all approaches

idle hearth
#

i love how they nerfed stevens nair

crisp bronze
#

xD

idle hearth
#

im actually getting punished now

signal dirge
#

I love waiting game. I am a reactionary player

crisp bronze
#

hmm

#

i cant play my game

#

vs steven

idle hearth
#

yep

#

Steven controls the pace

#

kinda like... Steve

crisp bronze
#

bcs i need to be aware of so many things

idle hearth
#

from smash

tiny comet
tiny comet
idle hearth
#

my fair is disjointed

tiny comet
#

I neutral attack him then when he has armor breaker i sair him or air up special

crisp bronze
#

hmmm. im playing a bit too scared i think

tiny comet
#

I play mind games

crisp bronze
#

lets try this

idle hearth
tiny comet
#

If you think too much you get hit

#

🙂‍↔️

tiny comet
#

I fear no man when im at 150

#

Without meter i crumble

crisp bronze
#

i still think im holding my place in this match up

tiny comet
#

Stand your ground solider

idle hearth
#

the hitbox damn

crisp bronze
#

i can spam 1 move 5 times too

#

: D

tiny comet
#

😂

idle hearth
#

my watermelon killed me :C

crisp bronze
#

i swear. steven is designed to counter my playstyle

#

i cant play hyper agressive
and i can predict what will happend

idle hearth
#

🤷‍♂️

crisp bronze
#

bcs bounces are random

idle hearth
#

uh?

#

game crashed?

#

hm or maybe his internet is gone

idle hearth
crisp bronze
#

My pc bluescreened

idle hearth
#

If you can already predict what would happen but cant punish it then its because you have lack of matchup knowledge

idle hearth
#

i had so many problems with those

#

needed constant fixing for 5 months or so

#

just to not get crashes

crisp bronze
#

Im losing my control of game of Steven

idle hearth
#

but thats not random then? its not an advantage for me to bounce of my own shields

#

you just need to keep track of them

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but yeah you are right in the fact that I control most of the pace of the g ame

crisp bronze
#

I know
But i just not sure when you will go

idle hearth
#

the only moment you can really play normally is when you are in advantage

crisp bronze
#

Like
Even vs zoners like Marvin i had more space to Control tempo

idle hearth
#

and when i have no cooldowns ready

crisp bronze
#

Need to learn this match up tho

#

Hmm
I think its over gaming for me

idle hearth
crisp bronze
#

Did i at least showed you something interesting?

idle hearth
#

yep

#

your use of down air at ledge

#

and Fair into side b loops

#

IN THE FCKING AIR

#

didnt know that it was possible

#

even if its frame tight and inconsistent

crisp bronze
#

Fair is that fast punch right?

#

I have diffrent dictionary thx to brawlhalla

idle hearth
#

fair is your one- to punch

#

in the air

crisp bronze
#

Oke

idle hearth
#

you once did fair into side b into fair

crisp bronze
#

I just wanted to confirm

idle hearth
#

maybe it wasnt true and i just didnt had a dodge idk

#

but it was pretty cool

crisp bronze
#

Hmmm
I need to lab one thing someday

#

I feel like when im on sing buff 2/2

#

My moves have less end lag

idle hearth
#

and i gotta lab Steven. Sadly the whole steven community dont seem that interested in labbing

upbeat fable
#

Would make it actually good

idle hearth
upbeat fable
crisp bronze
idle hearth
upbeat fable
#

"Supposedly"

idle hearth
#

yeah its so funny lmao

upbeat fable
#

I mean

idle hearth
#

honestly every change they did was good

#

except shield

upbeat fable
#

Every character community does it

idle hearth
#

making shield FRAME what? 26?

upbeat fable
#

Look at the Bugs community