Bugs Bunny

[thorny sage]

You can DI it

Like Nair dair was never true

You do that to someone it's because they can't DI

Nair Nair Nair is no longer true without the bug because of DI

It's also not true into up air if you DI out

[rancid sparrow]

Hmm well it hasn't seemed any different so far

Maybe I need more games

[thorny sage]

I'm gonna guess most casual queue players will get hit by it because they're not very like good.mechanically

The game is extremely easy so they do sorta okay

But things like DI and stuff

They just won't know how to DI it

[heavy pendant]

whats the correct way to DI it? im assuming away?

[pseudo sapphire]

I just lost to a Batman that got me in the air and started spamming aerials bruh I’m so cooked

[heavy pendant]

now you know how it feels

[thorny sage]

Quite a few ways it's very much up to how Bugs decides to Nair, but your best bet is to DI out ISH because there's less of a chance of bugs following up that way and it increases the chance you get to actually dodge it and after you've reached like 50% you straight up cannot be reached anymore by DIing out

It's definitely a new player destroyer combo I get that

It's just not true

But before it was

And it destroyed everyone because it was true

Now you can get out and it's kinda nothing to people who've learnt the ways to get out

[heavy pendant]

yeah i normally just default to DI away but i still get vortexed by it every now and then. thanks for the advice

[thorny sage]

Anything before the last 2 hours

It was probably the bug and probably true

[heavy pendant]

what was the bug exactly?

[thorny sage]

It removed ALL end lag on aerials and allowed you to dodge cancel moves

[heavy pendant]

lmao

[thorny sage]

Basically he had no whiff on attacks whether he hit or missed

[heavy pendant]

well alright then

[thorny sage]

And hammer into up air was more consistent because of it and now you cannot do it

[heavy pendant]

is there something up with bugs not taking hitstun right now? have you noticed this in your matches?

[thorny sage]

Nair into up air is no longer true aswell

[thorny sage]

Yes

That is a bug

I think it happens with every character but mostly bugs bunny

[heavy pendant]

mf got plot armor with these "bugs"

yeah ive noticed it happen on joker as well but not really anyone else. happens at least once a game against bugs

[thorny sage]

I don't know this for sure

But you could probably parry the Nair Nair Nair Nair

Like how you can punish WW by neutral dodging when she messed up her loop

[heavy pendant]

yeah you definitely can percentage dependent

[thorny sage]

I think you could do that now with bugs

[heavy pendant]

i was blowing a bugs up earlier with it

[granite oasis]

Should i get maestro or hollywood bugs?

[granite crater]

Depends which one you like the most

I like the Maestro cuz he has yellow gloves, but Hollywood's got good animations

[granite oasis]

i love both

[pseudo sapphire]

What are some good bugs colbos that dont require jab or dash attack? I’m beginning to become really predictable cuz that’s the only combo starters I know

[rancid sparrow]

Well

Bugs loop is sill active

I just had it used on me

Still

[granite crater]

a well placed pie always helps

[rancid sparrow]

Whoever jw999 is

[granite crater]

Like rocket and pie, if the rocket hits then the pie will get them and you can air combo from there

[rancid sparrow]

You not a real bugs

Using loop on other bugs smh

[granite crater]

exactly, there aint no fun in that

I remember one time, i managed to get the safe to loop itself in the tunnel

like in them out

[simple sluice]

what is bugs bunny combo?

[calm parrot]

are we cooked

[simple sluice]

what?

why?

[calm parrot]

for this patch

[calm parrot]

i cant tell you

i play on smash controls

[simple sluice]

and?

so do i?

also you can just say uair

or j for jump

of fair

fground

forward

[simple sluice]

he barely got touched

and it his ground down special

where he dives in the ground

[tiny cedar]

Bugs bunny is a bunny, that is all

[simple sluice]

you know the combo for bugs?

[calm parrot]

respectfully

[tiny cedar]

I like down air to up air on some folks

[calm parrot]

those never made any sense to me

[simple sluice]

how?

uair is up air

[calm parrot]

i go by button pressing cause the minute i think about my controls i forget everything

LMAO

[simple sluice]

fair is forward bair is back air

dair

is down air

[calm parrot]

its hard to understand

[calm parrot]

WWWWWWWW

gizmo got fuked LMAO

😭

[simple sluice]

literally every smash combo guides uses that

[simple sluice]

yeah he did

[calm parrot]

see thats the thing

i never learnt combos in smash

💀

[simple sluice]

💀

[calm parrot]

i play dk and boswer i dont need combos

😭

[simple sluice]

💀

nahh

bowser such a no skill character

i used mario

[rancid sparrow]

Damn bugs does feel Hella worse :/

Not having the dair into upair anymore is horrible

They can just dodge out of anything now

[simple sluice]

but bugs didn't get any changes to any of those attacks?

it was only his ground special which got a change

[rancid sparrow]

apparently the "rework" nerfed him

[simple sluice]

i think its a bug

[rancid sparrow]

that bug apparently let him be able to use his true combos

and now he has pretty much none

[simple sluice]

i think the bug is where he has no true combo

some attacks has a longer input buffer than intended

i assume it affected bugs bunny

[rancid sparrow]

I hope so

becasue he feels horrible rn

[simple sluice]

nah he still feels good for me

i think his nair j nair uair is still true

[heavy pendant]

he didnt even need them

[calm parrot]

oh is that why it hasnt been working?

[limpid berry]

Loops are actually so unfair holy moly get hit by nair once and you just lose

[rancid sparrow]

Yeah apparently bugs gets to keep his loop😅

[prime jacinth]

Funny

[limpid berry]

Bugs mains rely so much on it its unreal

Every Bugs I face is just fishing for that free loop that kills

[calm parrot]

i see what the bugs bug did now

[calm parrot]

i mean

its the most skillful one

it is hard to hit tbh

[limpid berry]

Nair > Nair > Nair > Nair biggest challenge of my life

[calm parrot]

oh no

thats not the loop i mean

[calm parrot]

and also i think its bugged

cause no way you should be getting that much speed when using the move

[simple sluice]

what is his loops?

[pseudo sapphire]

Honestly, next week’s patch will probably be rough for us. With Harley and Gizmo gone I think we’re next in line on the guillotine

[rancid sparrow]

It's the Nair > neutral >Nair >neutral

[rancid sparrow]

It didn't say anything about us getting any further changes unlike some of the other characters

[pseudo sapphire]

We’ll just have to wait till next week

[simple sluice]

yeah but the opponent sometimes fly to far

[tall copper]

???

how the hell does nair combo with neutral

neutral? as in neutral tilt? as in the big mallet that smacks to the side?

i never heard or seen of that combo

[rancid sparrow]

No

Air neutral

The spin

My bad

[tall copper]

nair is air neutral

nair > nair > nair > nair

[pseudo sapphire]

Are anyone else's attacks and inputs coming out a second later? Istg I can't combo cuz my jumps comes out a second later or doesn't register

[prime jacinth]

It could be because they removed the bug

[pseudo sapphire]

I'm not using tunnel. Even stuff like jab > up tilt > nair sometimes doesnt input my jump

Tried jumping after my opponent was rung out and it came out half a second later. Is it because of the input buffer bug?

[prime jacinth]

Actually that might be it

[pseudo sapphire]

Could also be an internet issue but I wasnt having this issue before the patch. Explains why my combos have been feeling so off

[prime jacinth]

Yeah could make sense for a lot of things feeling off

[pseudo sapphire]

Even sometimes I try to jump and up air but it doesnt register the jump so I end up kicking the air

[thorny sage]

And here you were telling me the bug patch meant nothing

All these people that had no idea what was actually patched getting mad at me for telling them the character won't be the same

Actually frustrating

Y'all should probably listen to me more lmao

[thorny sage]

There's a patch coming for this today according.to tony

[pseudo sapphire]

I saw Void’s video about the tunnel glitch. Never used it so Bugs still feels the same to me

[thorny sage]

He posted a video about it?

That's cringe as hell

Bringing attention to a bug that OP

[rancid sparrow]

I didn't know it was bugging though

Input lag bug was happening

So he might be fixed soon

It says there is a patch coming to fix it tomorrow

So we will see

[thorny sage]

It's not that Bug's bad

It's other people are still OP

[rancid sparrow]

Nah I mean his moves might be true still

[thorny sage]

Everyone needs to either get nerfed up or down to his level

[rancid sparrow]

Pfg said there is an input lag bug going on with some characters

So he might of been affected

[thorny sage]

They're not

[rancid sparrow]

Look in the pfg tweets

[thorny sage]

The input bug is just your moves coming out later sometimes

It doesn't effect his regular comboes when your move doesn't come out 5 seconds after you press it

It also wasn't true before during the last patch without the bug

Which is the main thing

And Nair wasn't buffed

It only works with bad DI

[pseudo sapphire]

Nah he made a video but hid it until the bug was fixed.

[thorny sage]

Ohhh okay

That's fine

[pseudo sapphire]

That's the worst time to happen in a fighting game.

[thorny sage]

Yeah

It's an awful bug

[pseudo sapphire]

Btw how can you tell where the person is going to be flung? I usually have a hard time trying to tell where they're going to go after using Nair

[thorny sage]

But it doesn't effect the bugs comboes

[thorny sage]

That's called DI

You have to read it

Based on how your opponent has been DIing

[pseudo sapphire]

So it's just reading them?

[thorny sage]

Yeah

[pseudo sapphire]

Aight thx

[prime jacinth]

I think He posted it after it was patched though. Might be wrong

[thorny sage]

I've been told already

[prime jacinth]

Oh ok I should read all messages lol

[rich frost]

Bugs is so evil eviiil I say. But anyway I do like playing as him though.

[prime jacinth]

Hey is bugs fixed for y’all with the input buffer thing gone?

[rancid sparrow]

Still not true😔

We cooked

[prime jacinth]

Don’t y’all have broken loops y’all were talking about?

[rancid sparrow]

Anyone else feel like our moves hitboxes have also been decreased??

[prime jacinth]

Idk they feel alright

[zinc dawn]

This is a weirdly specific thing to bring up

But Bugs is absolutely ridiculous in that boss fight in the rift thingy where you have to beat up a computer

Just tunnel, safe, Rocket, and the thing’s already pretty much dead

[ember plover]

both

[lucid mirage]

Just had a bug where I used down special into a previous hole I made... and the game teleported me into the top blast zone

[small stump]

what build would you recommend for 2v2s?

[cursive fractal]

Was tunnel and safe nerfed in beta? I kinda remember they did. It feels like the safe could be toned down in hp a little. Cause multi hit attacks do nothing to it.

[tardy compass]

Bug bunne

[pseudo sapphire]

How do yall move so fast? I swear my Bugs doesnt go at 100 mph. I just got sauced by a 1k win Bugs running circles around me.

[lament eagle]

well I know dodge jumping or whatever is a thing, when you do it you usually go really quick

[oak bramble]

I know! For like the first day, you could also use it in the jump rope mini game before they patched it. They didn’t think about bugs cheese!

[simple sluice]

is bugs combo really nair - nair - nair - nair??? i can't hit it because they dodge away

[grim vortex]

So just bought bugs and immediately went on a win streak with him

He's just crazy fun

Most fun I've had with a character so far. Actually feels like what a looney tunes character would play like in a game - like they nailed it for sure. He's a blast lol

[lament eagle]

he was my main back in beta
I originally hopped on the game thinking I would main finn but he never stuck
then I unlocked bugs and was playing so much with im

[meager island]

Bugs bunny u are my goat 🥶

[bright silo]

When will they nerf bugs air neutral

Or bugs infinite in general

[calm parrot]

yeah

not the most broken character though

the best character rn is steven

[calm parrot]

he doesnt have one

just dodge it

[ember plover]

rabbits are cool

[dusky tide]

wonder woman is right there

steven is not the best character lol

[calm parrot]

bro

steven does everything

he just isnt played as much as WW

[bright silo]

Dair nair dair nair dair nair dair nair

[limpid berry]

Fair and balanced character uair should definitely kill at 60% from anywhere and he should definitely have the ability to loop you right into his kill range AND true combo into his kill attack from that loop

[pseudo sapphire]

Honestly Bugs needs a buff. His uair should kill at 0 and his naircombo should be true.

[limpid berry]

It is true you are NOT changing anything

[calm parrot]

skill issue

[limpid berry]

Character carried

[rich frost]

I accidentally fell earlier trying to do Bugs down special in 2v2 but thankfully it didn't cost us we still came back and won lol. It is so easy getting lost in 2v2's.

Thought I was still on the platform but noticed I was too far to the right too late.

[zinc dawn]

Safe might be my favorite move in PlatFighter history

[topaz herald]

Up rocket is so amazing, it can combo to kill if they try to stop it and having it come down so much later is amazing at reestablishing neutral its also great when you have the fight flow into the rocket

[tall copper]

uair does not kill at 60% unless your at the top of the map

and obviously if your going to be up there then he will kill you

if your fighting a good arya and your at 30% and your anywhere above the ground your dead, there’s better characters than bugs in the air

just get better bro

[calm parrot]

steven has a "loop" too lol

[limpid berry]

2 characters can be OP at once bud

[limpid berry]

Or PFG could do this crazy thing called balance their game

[thorny sage]

You say that but your opponent will just stand on it for like 5 seconds before walking off uneffected by it

[thorny sage]

Nair into up air isn't true

[limpid berry]

Nair into dair is, and dair into uair is most certainly true

[topaz herald]

Im talking about when it comes down. Its super fun

[rich frost]

Hmm I do the same combos/specials and at the same damage as other people but never eliminate people like they do it is odd to me.

[thorny sage]

Nair into dair is not true

I think Dair into up air is tho

[limpid berry]

You might be stupid 😔

[thorny sage]

Nair doesn't have any true comboes other than a 80/20 with itself, the 80 being it hitting and the 20 it missing

[thorny sage]

I just fight players that know how to DI

I fight good players

[limpid berry]

With DI it's still true, unfortunately

You're just bad, unfortunately

[thorny sage]

It's not

If you're getting hit by it then you need to learn some stuff

[limpid berry]

Nope Bugs can loop nair > dair or just spam nair and win

Bugs is broken and should be gutted, especially his uair

[thorny sage]

He cannot loop Nair dair

That's not true

He can loop Nair

As an 80/20

Nair Nair Nair Nair

[limpid berry]

80/20 isn't real

You just suck

[thorny sage]

But he can't Nair dair Nair dair

[limpid berry]

It's 100% if you're good at the game

[thorny sage]

It's because you have to predict where the opponent will DI and stuff

And know where he landed into you Nair

It's weird

I can do it pretty consecutively until the point where you can just DI it at around 80% on most characters

[limpid berry]

So 80/20 if you don't know how to attack your opponent

[thorny sage]

Legit not what any of that means

[limpid berry]

and 80% is well within Bugs' kill range, unfortunately

[thorny sage]

Yeah

I know

I'm not saying it's bad

Its broken beyond hell

[limpid berry]

Broken character, gut him fr Bugs mains need to experience not having a top 5 character for once

[thorny sage]

I'm telling you what part of what you're saying isn't true

[limpid berry]

Everything I'm saying is true

[thorny sage]

Bugs was like bottom 5 in 1s at the end of the beta

[limpid berry]

I'm a fountain of truth

[limpid berry]

False

He was top 3

[thorny sage]

Ong

Also the Nair combo is a bit iffy on characters that will usually low profile the Nair

Like gizmo and Finn

[limpid berry]

Screw the gremlins

Gut both the gremlins

Idec if stripe is good or not

Gut him for being small

[thorny sage]

But you can still do it by doing Jab, Uptilt, follow Jump Nair, drag down then instead of jumping how you normally would pull back alot more with the Nair

And it makes it like 10x more reliable than if you just tried to jab Uptilt Nair Nair Nair Nair the way you do with the normal characters

Because those small guys might end up just falling under the Nair

[rich frost]

We have ourselves a Gremlins hater.

[limpid berry]

Not a gremlins hater, just a hater

[copper estuary]

what did you say about Gizmo

[tall copper]

diar > uair is not true dude have you been living under a rock

[limpid berry]

Bugs downplay

[tall copper]

only true if your opponent is dumb and doesn’t dodge

it was only true in beta

and even if they don’t dodge they can di left or right and sometimes get away

[tall copper]

you come here just hating all day

[tight sinew]

I was trying to escape a nair string from Bugs as WW earlier and I couldn't tell if I was just not inputting correctly but it seemed like nair x3 was just true sometimes. Is there anything I can do if the bugs nairs me?

[limpid berry]

Pray that the Bugs is too stupid to read the DI

Otherwise nope, you just get hit until he can kill you with one uair

[heady plinth]

how do you counter this character

it's like fighting a battle that is unwinnable

[limpid berry]

You download cheats

[copper estuary]

Play Steven hes a hard counter to him

[rancid sparrow]

Deserved for playing ww tbh, I feel no mercy for you

That bugs did the right thing

One of the only ways to beat ww as bugs lol

[tight sinew]

Lol aight

[rancid sparrow]

That mu is horrible for Bugs so they did what they had to do😔

[tight sinew]

Guess that's the mu, gotta expect bugs to nair

[rancid sparrow]

I mean yeah, you have multiple projectile destruction moves

I'm ngl I will 100% Nair the wws as well

Until she gets some actual nerfs I won't feel bad doing it😂

[alpine frost]

who wins taz vs iron giant

[thorny sage]

It's true at certain %s

Aslong as they don't get hit too high or too low

But that % range is pretty big

You can't even DI it at that %

Dair into up air is a solid kill confirm

Nair into Up air just isn't true at all though and isn't a kill confirm

[copper estuary]

WW needs to be slaughtered with nerfs

[limpid berry]

WW, Bugs, Harley, Steven, IG, and BA all need to be slaughtered with nerfs

Throw Velma in there too

I think it'd be funny

[rancid sparrow]

Beating wws is so satisfying

[copper estuary]

😐

[copper estuary]

I love seeing them getting salty

[lucid mirage]

I have a 69% WR with bugs

[copper estuary]

Cool😐

[calm parrot]

is bugs getting 100% nerfed

[calm parrot]

bro sounds like a garnet main

💀

[limpid berry]

Garnet needs to be nerfed too fr she's too OP she can attack me while I play my top tiers like WW Bugs or Harley it's so unfair

[calm parrot]

💀 sounds like a skill issue

[limpid berry]

I am under the impression that @calm parrot can not comprehend a joke

[calm parrot]

you cant either

https://tenor.com/view/wow-surprised-face-little-boss-gif-alisa-gif-16133616529628653686

aw

[limpid berry]

Embed fail, delete your account

[rancid sparrow]

No

We weren't on the chopping block last patch for future nerfs

[copper estuary]

Will happen soon

[calm parrot]

yay

[limpid berry]

I love playing Bugs when I lose a match or two because then I just win everything by using 3 moves 😍

Such an easy character to play tbh

[rancid sparrow]

huh

I mean if you never use safe or rocket then you just playing bad

[tall pecan]

came to ask the bugs mains a question

is nair a TRUE infinite? My guess is no

[limpid berry]

Is it true? Yes.
Infinite? No, it'll stop hitting most characters efficiently at around 60-80%

[tall pecan]

exactly what I thought

[barren vector]

How do i deal with harley

[limpid berry]

LMAOOO

[copper estuary]

I just abuse her lightweight and try get her pinned down to beat the crap out of her

[rancid sparrow]

Have to use the air more and avoid her slide

After her nerfs though it's a way more favored mu for us

[oak bramble]

Catch the slide with a kiss and it’s GGs

[tall pecan]

@limpid berry someone tried to convince me bugs nair was a true infinite and then proceeded to send me beta gameplay of a combo that wasnt even only his nair 🤣

he then sent me release gameplay of a bugs nairing an AFK bot

[copper estuary]

Oh nah

[unkempt notch]

☠️

[copper estuary]

Thats fraud behavior

[tall pecan]

funniest stuff ever

[tall pecan]

and he waddled away and never came back

[unkempt notch]

This dead chat makes Siberia look like Miami Beach 🥶

[rancid sparrow]

Most chats are dead at this point

Game is dying

[thorny sage]

9000 24 hour peak when it was 150,000 2 weeks ago

Genuinely already doing worse than brawlhalla

[simple sluice]

what is bugs combo?

[thorny sage]

A good 30,000 of those alone would probably still be playing if they just nerfed wonder woman

I don't get why they didn't

[thorny sage]

Nair Nair Nair Nair Nair Nair Nair Nair Nair

Pretty complex stuff

[simple sluice]

not true

[thorny sage]

And

Still works

[simple sluice]

true

[thorny sage]

It's not like your opponent is getting out of it for the first few Nairs

Jab Uptilt Nair loop is still getting you 60 damage

[simple sluice]

i am just sad the game is dying

[thorny sage]

It's the Dev's fault

Like it's not like they tried their hardest and it still failed

They have done every single thing they could have wrong

[simple sluice]

they had to completely restart you know

[thorny sage]

and?

[simple sluice]

if they managed to do all of this in 1 year it's pretty impressive

[thorny sage]

And?

[simple sluice]

nothing

[thorny sage]

What they did is impressive sure, but it's not enough

By far

[simple sluice]

i guess they could just focus less time on rifts?

[thorny sage]

They did less than what was in the beta

[simple sluice]

they had to completely restart

[thorny sage]

They have not nerfed the most broken character once the entire time the game was up

The character actively making people quit the game

[simple sluice]

yeah that's their fault

they nerfed gizmo

so badly

[thorny sage]

There is no spectating for tournement organisers meaning when the game is biggest at over 100K players alot of tournaments just wouldn't get made

[simple sluice]

but ww just gets a slap on the wrist

[thorny sage]

Meaning less people will play for the tournaments

They Dev's definitely are the reason the game is failing it's not anything else

A WBs platform fighter with a free price tag is legit a formula for success

It's not like they were challenged to make something hard into something successful

They were handed success in a bottle twice and did nothing with it

[simple sluice]

tbh the game would be alive if ranked exist

but

since it doesn't

it kinda gets boring

[granite oasis]

Whats the best perks?

[sly torrent]

too funny seeing bugs players complain about ANY character.
there may be op characters but you players are cream of the crop losers
creaming all over a character that you can just roll on the keyboard with.
Be fun watching you all leave the game when they nerf the bunny

[limpid berry]

Is Bugs a beatable character or do I just have to download cheats whenever I fight him? An infinite off of one attack is so ridiculous

[granite oasis]

Bugs kinda takes skill, Buggs isnt THAT op, He doesnt do much dmg its that hes tanky,Quick and extremely versatile, He has range, He has melee he has a good dlight, Good uplight

[sly torrent]

sorry I couldn't hear you with your head so far up bugs skill ceiling

[granite oasis]

Bet u main superman or finn

[sly torrent]

Marvin, but fun to see how bad you are to complain about superman while asking for perks in the bugs server

[copper estuary]

Marvin is a W character

[granite oasis]

Haha Marvin lmao all u do is cry, all marvin players are crybabys icl

[granite oasis]

Because his perks are lowk mid, u have to reuse tunel to actually get the shockwave and the stun kiss is pretty useless

[granite oasis]

I hate bugs pie, Dont realise i have on equipped, Go to dair and throw a pie instead of hammer

[pseudo sapphire]

It heals teammates the more you charge it up in 2s.

Btw do yall ever use the kiss? I’ve rarely used it (maybe the perk for it makes it better but most of the time I just use it by accident)

[granite oasis]

same, The pie is so god damn annoying

Also i hate fighting batman on bugs

[pseudo sapphire]

Same.

He hits really hard

[copper estuary]

Is this a Bugs hate channel now?

[pseudo sapphire]

Nah we’re chilling rn

Let them complain honestly it’s deserved cuz Bugs IS broken rn

But what can we do?

[copper estuary]

Well Steven is a Hard Counter to him bc the amount the shields but be careful of the adaptation

[copper estuary]

And needs somewhat knowledge to play him

[pseudo sapphire]

He does, but not if you’re abusing nair and upair, then not rlly cuz they’re really easy to use. But setting up rockets and safes and tunnels is fun.

[pseudo sapphire]

Yeah Steven’s a pain.

[copper estuary]

I use Uair it as a kill move

[pseudo sapphire]

It is a kill move. A kill move that can kill at 80 and has a huge hitbox.

I’ve killed people with upair when they were at 40

[copper estuary]

Meh i died at 24 while i was fighting WW so i have some built up rage

[pseudo sapphire]

Everyone agrees that WW is top 1

[copper estuary]

As a Bugs Main i feel so bad for Reindog mains

Getting nerfed for no reason

[granite oasis]

Fr, Its rather never active or we're just getting bullied lol

[granite oasis]

I never use Nair, i can never hit it icl, I also never use kiss and rarely use tunnel

[copper estuary]

Or just a meme one

[rancid sparrow]

not really

[simple sluice]

not every bugs player complain about any characters

[undone kettle]

Does anyone have any pro player YouTube/Twitch channels please ?

[simple sluice]

just search up bugs bunny pro player

[golden jasper]

Just wanna come in and bugs is kinda brainless

I beat em more than i lose but still, anyways cya

[limpid berry]

What do you mean? Nair > Nair > Nair > Nair > Nair > Nair > Nair > Nair > Nair > Nair > Dair > Uair takes an insane amount of skill

[manic crag]

All you guys do is spam dair nair and up air takes no skill

[unkempt notch]

I no longer main Bugs in the name of Mars
Tricks don't pay off as much as mindless attacks

Plus overpowered moves and nair spam

[rancid sparrow]

Bugs is also bad compared to the current top picks lol

All the top picks beat bugs on the regular

[copper estuary]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

[rancid sparrow]

I mean it's not a suprise😂😭

It's just how it is lol

When the top picks all have anti projectile it's pretty obvious

I still main him regardless

[copper estuary]

Ik it isnt like ya know

[steel hare]

Does anyone have a link to the buggs discord if there is one? Thanks

[quartz bane]

how do u escape of nair spam like please

u have fun playin the game u bugs main ?

so toxic like idk

[mint prism]

di

[quartz bane]

AJHAHJAHAHA

[mint prism]

XD

[quartz bane]

di where ?

[mint prism]

think about it

i wish the character threads were used to discuss the chars gameplan combos tech etc. instead of circlejerk of how broken/trash they are

[prime jacinth]

Yeah I mean a lot of bugs do the same things but tbf I’d be doing the same things when I play him. Like I just put down all his projectile stuff and start swinging nair and sair

[pseudo sapphire]

I mean Bugs has a good amount of tech like pressing the special button then immediately pressing down when inside a tunnel which cancels the safe attack where he pops out. But most Bugs just spam nair and up air and it’s just as effective so it doesn’t really matter rn.

[shell matrix]

does anyone have like

a DI flowchart i can do to not die after getting hit by nair

[keen valley]

No dad no love no life

[prime jacinth]

I think you just except your fate but I think you can escape if you DI out

[copper estuary]

...

[shell matrix]

nah i still die

[prime jacinth]

Sad

[limpid berry]

DI up is the only way you'll escape

[topaz herald]

you can also DI in different ways to get out of it

[topaz herald]

it honestly depends on the bugs you face cause sometimes DI away will get you out but sometimes up will, it's based on which way the bugs goes

[tall pecan]

MX?

that you?

[topaz herald]

yep i remeber seeing your name before

been hard into the bugs now

[tall pecan]

was just settling a petty debate

[topaz herald]

ah okays X3 i came here out of context so don't mind me

[tall pecan]

hard into finn now

[tall pecan]

some guy tried to convince me nair was a true infinite and sent me beta gameplay as proof

then sent me a vid of someone comboing an afk bot

[topaz herald]

oh lawd but yea it's not true, however if bugs gets you against a wall and nairs you it's scary painful damage

well not infinite rather

[copper estuary]

Are the Twitch Drops live?

[granite oasis]

They need to rework bugs pie, Its useless as a bugs main, It throws my games 90% of time. I go to dair but instead i have to wait about 10 sec for it to throw a stupid pie that does like 2 dmg, who cares if it heals in 2s, its useless

[unkempt notch]

Pie is weak, right. All the hitpause makes it difficult to redirect it efficiently. Plus too many attacks, like Shaggy kick, simply break the pie

[copper estuary]

They need to give it the slowed effect

[pseudo sapphire]

What’s a bad matchup against Bugs? Been having trouble with Black Adam but it could just be me.

[limpid berry]

Black Adam is top 1 and I will die on this hill

Even if they gut him and make him worse than Velma, I'm ranking him at top 1

[lucid mirage]

Finally got my bugs ringout badge to 3 stars 🥳

[thorny sage]

WW is pretty much unbeatable for Bugs bunny

I don't think another character other than maybe Finn is like that annoying for bugs but he definitely has other losing MUs

Just not that losing for bugs mains to complain about the character

Complain about the MU anyway

Complaining about a character and complaining about a MU are 2 different things

[thorny sage]

That MU is not that bad for BA it might be a MU knowledge issue

But just play WW

It's a free win

[fringe shore]

the fact that the safe reactivates everytime he hits with his spin is ridiculous

[thorny sage]

This is the nerfed version of that move

[fast anchor]

I kinda feel like Harley is on that too but thats kinda a surface level thing because I don't really know much about her

That timed grenade can just one shot safe is the main driving point of that thought but I prob just need matchup exp

Also do y'all prefer coming through out lingering love?

That hitbox Is pretty nice imo but at the same time another thing to zone with is pretty sick I've been thinking about trying it

[limpid berry]

Imagine losing with Bugs lmao

You gotta be another level of garbage to do that

[topaz herald]

for black adam use more uprockets and mix up how you get combod there are often times you can nair out of his arial strings to avoid getting killed. For me joker is harder cause he has a super easy safe one hit

[granite oasis]

Nah He has some bad matchups that are hard to win, Id say hes the best 1v1er in game but Hes only B-Low Atier for 2s imo

[quick escarp]

hes not.

and he doesn't.

[limpid berry]

Ungodly downplay

[granite oasis]

He is? Whos better at 1v1? Imo its BB

[granite oasis]

Yes he does, WW,Ba ect

[quick escarp]

Hes a MONSTER in 2v2

If you think hes the best in 1v1...hes even better in 2v2

[granite oasis]

Nah i think hes weak in 2v2, However his safe is WAY too op in 2s, The combos u can both get is crazy

[limpid berry]

One safe + nair and he gets 80 damage instantly
Pair that with Shaggy and you win every game

[fast anchor]

I wouldn't be surprised if you were right about him being the best 1s character ngl

I play him for other reasons but like I'm not gonna downplay him he's powerful AF especially in the right hands

[topaz herald]

i would say joker would be in the jokers favor, he can one shot bugs projectiles with a very quick and safe move. joker doesn't need to play into bugs silly games so it can be hard

[topaz herald]

not everytime if they di certain ways

depends on the character thgough

oh also for the wonder women match up very important to know that your forward gorund attack and rocket both break wonderwomens armor

[unkempt notch]

Ground side special moment

[topaz herald]

well i mean the ftilt also

i notice multihit seems to break most all armor

[calm parrot]

are we cooked for next patch

😭

[rancid sparrow]

no

we not even in line to get nerfed

[limpid berry]

Has an infinite
Has some of the highest kill power
Hitboxes are too big (issue with most characters tho)
If he doesn't get nerfed the devs are screwing up

[rancid sparrow]

😂

[pseudo sapphire]

Oh he definitely is, probably some fix to his safe to not make it multiple times per move and something regarding his nair but idk how they would nerf tbh.

[copper quartz]

I don't know who needs to see this but if you have an armor break attack it'll one shot bugs safe

[gaunt marsh]

nerf this bunny

his funny spin and safe are opening up my holes

then he uses his bat to close it

👅

[tawny crater]

yes these moves also annoy me very much

[gaunt marsh]

this is how you cut a sandcake

[tawny crater]

there is no counterplay

[gaunt marsh]

whiiis

shut the duck up

[tawny crater]

:[

whis

get the Hamood Habibi Killer

[gaunt marsh]

Bydgoszcz Poland

[tawny crater]

erm what the sigma

[gaunt marsh]

😈

[topaz herald]

if you ahve a quick multihit move you can destroy the safe quickly and safley

like bugs himself has his ftilt to instantly get rid of safe

joker, wonder women, bats are also a couple characters can easily destroy the safe

[limber wind]

does anyone else have an issue after grabbin the pie and instantly pressing downa gain to threow it it just does an up smash

[brave cape]

basically every move armor breaks, very fast attacks too

oh and bugs mains love just camping holes to hold the match hostage too

[slate oyster]

Can't wait for the gutting

[limpid berry]

LMAOOO

You really think they'll nerf him?

[slate oyster]

Hell nah💀

[sick wadi]

So I dunno if either I've already said it or someone else has already or whatever, but did y'all know you can fast fall up-special?

[foggy lake]

So many bugs dittos

[pseudo sapphire]

Aged like milk lol

[willow plume]

lol

[foggy lake]

Hope bugs will still be fun. I try not to abuse the problems he had.

[unkempt notch]

If Bugs is fair I might start playing him again

[lament eagle]

I'll hope he's still fun, I could never seem to nair loop anyways so I'm not gonna be missing that

[frank shuttle]

Thoughts on the weaker safe?

[lament eagle]

I don't think it was necessary personally

[limpid berry]

Aged like fine wine

The nerfs are insignificant

This whole patch is meaningless

So much for a big mid season patch

Games dying and they're supporting it

[modern cloak]

did they say what happening to bugs?

[lament eagle]

nair and safe nerf

[pseudo sapphire]

Got rid of the nair loop and made safe weaker

Literally what everyone’s complaining about

I’m just glad WW’s getting nerfed

[modern cloak]

okay tbh i expected worse

what about up air?

unchanged??

[pseudo sapphire]

As far as I’m aware, no

Well have to wait until patches

[rancid sparrow]

Nerfs seem about right

I mean they took away one of the last loops in the game and made safe a but weaker

[granite crater]

yep

[sick wadi]

I got a clip with it and lost my mind because I thought it would've been patched by now lol

[granite crater]

i didnt rlly think of it as a bad thing tbh
you could do some special things with it most of the time but it's just kinda odd to do

[sick wadi]

No, I'm not saying it's an issue. Just that it's clearly unintentional

I mean I won't complain if they keep it in (like Taz infinite since it's not true after 40 dmg) but it's just goofy lol

[topaz herald]

yep it's super fun

though one big bug that is def unintentionaly is if you hit an oppenet ont he ground directly below a falling rocket it will instaa kill you

[heady kindle]

I feel so bad for my boy bugs after the patch

[slate oyster]

He needed the gut

[limpid berry]

Literally all he lost was a free 60 damage off of any one attack

He's still gonna be top of A at worst

[heady kindle]

I know that, I'm fine with the nerf if it makes the game more fun and balance-ish. Just sucks regardless when when your character does get a nerf

But hey, that means you gotta work around that as you play the game

[scenic pond]

Don't, his dair is like 3x better now

I can actually use it for edge guarding now

[pseudo sapphire]

Safe got murdered tho. From 16 to 3 thats gonna break in 1 hit

Im fine with it tho dont get me wrong that thing was foul

[unkempt notch]

Breaking an inactive safe hasn't been an issue (for me at least). It's that it doesn't break quick enough while in use. In the beta, it would break on its own after hitting enemies only a few times

[modern cloak]

rip bugs

[granite crater]

i kinda wish there was like a perk or smth to make it so you can CONTROL when the safe drops
like you plop down the target, and then press the button again for it to fall

[foggy lake]

Same

[topaz herald]

Yea now you gotta use it as a dodge read onstead of just throwing it out

Also his kiss got a buff which is actually reslly good, the lasting kiss was already great for edge gaurding

I gotta test out the nair stuff when i can

Cause hopefully he can still follow up

[topaz herald]

After three nairs if you’re not getting out the bugs is reading your DI

Though his wall combo with nair was nasty

[heady kindle]

Aparently it says in the patch notes that opponents only damage it 1 hp at a time unless they armor break it

[sick wadi]

I've had issues, but mostly cause there's no reason to attack it, just try to dodge it

Sure, easier said than done, but not impossible

Hell, I once used Steven Up-Special to hold it up and make it bounce into the top blast zone

Although I think that was unintentional since it's a heavy

[granite oasis]

Havent played yet, Have they gutted Him?

[pseudo sapphire]

No clue, cant play rn

[topaz herald]

If you’re character has an armor bresk move use that but watch the bugs when you do

[granite oasis]

Oh i thought servers went live earlier

[sick wadi]

No, I know that much. I'm referring to if I don't have one, like in a Bugs Ditto without any shield break perks (which btw, I'm surprised he has none)

[topaz herald]

Ftilt instabreaks and is an armor beeak

[sick wadi]

Is it? I thought it was only cause it's a multihit and like 95% of the armor in this game gets taken out by one hit

[granite oasis]

Hes gone, RIP bugs 2022-2024

[sick wadi]

Lol

I played Beta Taz. Playing trash characters is nothing new

[granite oasis]

Beta taz was crazy op??

he was meta

[sick wadi]

I was told he was cheeks

[granite oasis]

Nah he was giga meta

[sick wadi]

Not by Taz players btw

Also referring to 1v1, not doubles

Oh, well that's surprising

I also used Marvin alot, so statement still stands lol

[granite oasis]

true lol

[topaz herald]

It destroys the safe instantly also

[sick wadi]

Lmao how have I not seen this?

Then again, I usually launch it with n-attack, f-air, u-air or d-air, so maybe that's why

[modern cloak]

okay bugs feels ass

[digital orbit]

what kinda combos we going for now?

[fast anchor]

I see people talking about him what did they do to my boy

[digital orbit]

Oh I just got some games in and oh boy they butchered our bunny ☠️

[topaz herald]

Does up air still kill?

[fast anchor]

From the patch notes it only looks like they reduced the active frames

Should still do the same job unless I'm missing something

These changes really don't look that bad there are just a lot of them

[digital orbit]

They didn't look bad until I played

Felt kinda poop lol

[topaz herald]

What direction does nair send people now?

[fast anchor]

The only thing I saw about nair was that they changed something called repeat move lockout which no idea what that's supposed to mean

[topaz herald]

Its easier to directional influence out of after repeat use

[fast anchor]

So DI is stronger?

[topaz herald]

Which means we gotta do strings of not just nair or bait air dodges to punish after nair

Yea thats what it sounds like

[fast anchor]

Again that really doesn't sound that bad

Relying on strings is just kinda more fun sounding anyway than just oops you landed into an ftilt time to explode

[topaz herald]

Yea

[fast anchor]

I'm still gonna play bugs I still love my boy

[topaz herald]

Same

[calm parrot]

WHAT DID THEY DO TO HIM 😭

ok i was over reacting

the combos are still comboing

safe is too weak 😭

[foggy lake]

He's still good.

[foggy lake]

Yeah sometimes the safe feels weak but tbh the safe gets launched into narnia most of the time anyways

[calm parrot]

yeah

[chrome hawk]

im disappointed they should have nerfed bugs way harder

[candid stag]

Bugs is still fine, just no crazy crazy safe things.

Just use your combos

[heavy pendant]

i played against a good bugs earlier. hes still a solid character

[topaz herald]

ah if it's weak then i will treat it like i do against joker and batman, use it as a dodge read

as long as uprocket hasn't been touched i will be fine

[calm parrot]

no

[calm parrot]

that was the fun

safe snipes

[chrome hawk]

yup

[calm parrot]

you still can.... but safe died in 2 hits

[chrome hawk]

they should gut him honestly

[calm parrot]

im guessing you main garnet

😭

[chrome hawk]

what does it matter who i main lol

also idk you might have reading comprehension issues

[calm parrot]

its a joke dam

[chrome hawk]

they need to nerf his whiff recovery hard

[calm parrot]

on what

they already did it to nair

[chrome hawk]

across the board

[calm parrot]

so for everyone

?

[chrome hawk]

no for bugs

[calm parrot]

and make the game even slower

[chrome hawk]

yeah

for bugs

[calm parrot]

its fine

tbh bugs isnt even good in ones anymore

if they just over power you

[chrome hawk]

who plays ones

[calm parrot]

most ppl 💀

[chrome hawk]

it sucks

[calm parrot]

ok?

[chrome hawk]

just run away from the other guy and whiff punish

[calm parrot]

they should revert the safe change

and just make bugs lighter

[chrome hawk]

they should keep safe

KILL rocket and baseball bat

AND make him lighter

[calm parrot]

then he cant kill...

💀

[chrome hawk]

thats ok

[calm parrot]

no 💀

then he turns into marvin

[chrome hawk]

yeah but super weak

[limber wind]

is there somewhere to see hitboxes and framedata

[calm parrot]

nah

its mostly the same though

[limber wind]

idrk what they were before the patch but i guess ill just have to feel it out

[limber wind]

is there a best perk set for bugs

i realized the reflect perk doesnt even work half the time

[topaz herald]

lol you just are salty about bugs

also something changed and now i keep pulling out pies after landing a nair and that's making me tweak a bit, since i mean to do jumping downairs

[chrome hawk]

yeah hes annoying af

[topaz herald]

survive over 100 i really like since you can be very slippy with bugs and force them to commit and punish for it

[limber wind]

yea i use that one

[topaz herald]

lol stay mad XP instead of trying to learn you pray the deves listen your whiney ass. frankly you will never have fun with fighting games if you just pray devs do something instead of learn

if you want to learn how to fight bugs i would be glad to help

[chrome hawk]

broski

you play

BUGS

[topaz herald]

but complaining you will just get man

[chrome hawk]

and youre also illiterate

😭

[topaz herald]

you're only proving my point you have no actual valid points and instead of trying, you whine. basically you're elmer fudd

like for real this is a place to discuss bugs and if you have nothing to offer and don't try to learn just leave please

you're free to ask for matchup advice

but whinning like this is sad

especially if you play arya stark who is actually really good against bugs

so to go back to actual subject the nerf makes it so you can't use nair after nair and it's very noticible

so gotta figure out stuff to follow up after

one great thing to do is uprocket after a nair, it's a great cover for air dodgers

[calm parrot]

SAME

[topaz herald]

yea it;s hella annoying

[calm parrot]

i just stop using the move

HOT TAKE

the hammer move and pie should switch

like binds wise

[topaz herald]

the pie in general is pretty not great

but yea the safe is super weak now like most of the time i can barely get it to hit anyone

without breaking

[foggy lake]

Would be better if the projectile speed perk was back.

[worldly pagoda]

Bugs is still fun but his nerfs are extremely noticeable. He can't combo no more

Or harder to do so

Hit & Run Bugs is still hilarious to do

[tall pecan]

Isnt Ayra like one of his worst MUs?

🤔

[chrome hawk]

i got sick of arya im playing supes now

[tall pecan]

depends on MU

with characters like jake breaking it low key feels harder for me now

might just be tripping tho

actually

yeah

im tripping

💀

[tall pecan]

cant say i know much on that MU tbh

seems like after nair nerf tho it’s significantly closer now

[topaz herald]

use the qquickest attacks since it can only take 3 hits including when it hits into people

[tall pecan]

im aware

[topaz herald]

he can do combos a bunch just not nair into nair anymore

[tall pecan]

doesnt change anything for finn tho

[topaz herald]

nair into upair is a great kill move and you can combo into a nair with tilt upsmash or fair

[tall pecan]

i simply press nair or down tilt and its gone

never had an issue with safe

[topaz herald]

yea it's really a little too weak imo

[tall pecan]

heres the thing

[topaz herald]

like maybe keep three hits but don't have it break when it collides with people

hwoever it is still great for edgegaurd

[tall pecan]

bugs is decent in 1v1

still a monster in 2v2 tho

[topaz herald]

i haven't done enough in 2v2s but i feel like with more attacks it wouldn't be able to get off even more but the choas of it all def benefits bugs

[tall pecan]

he still has great screen control

which is a major boon in 2v2

kinda one of the 2 important things in 2v2

[topaz herald]

yea uprocket is so good for the screen and stage control it gives

also pie is prolly better in 2v2s

i don't really have any consistent partners so i don't 2v2 often

[tall pecan]

stage control and survivability

[tall pecan]

pie is great in 2v2

[topaz herald]

yea that's why i like his 100 perk. he's great at surviving and keeping away from dangerous stuff

[tall pecan]

has the same stupid effect as sandwich

way too good healing

[topaz herald]

could be great to cordinate partner attacks to change where it goes

[tall pecan]

bugs and IG wont die in 2v2

Especially with how well they complement each other

[topaz herald]

oh that sounds like a fun combo

[tall pecan]

if by fun you mean makes me want to die. Then yes

IG is just still broken and forever will be

[topaz herald]

yea i do respect them going big and making a massive character. ridley could never

also the nair nerf drastically makes IG much harder since it was easy to juggle him with it but the dely on inputting makes it much harder

[rancid sparrow]

This some crazy salt

Should we nerf?
Yes for bugs
Kill?
For Bugs
Make game slow?
For bugs?
What Bugs hurt you😭

[lament eagle]

that safe nerf man

your own jab breaks the safe, I really don't think that's necessary

[fast anchor]

I really liked the bs that you could do with safe honestly

[rancid sparrow]

Yeah hopefully they give it some hp back

[fast anchor]

Yeah, some get me wrong tho it def needed a nerf

But my jab breaks it??? Screw that

Y'know there's a way they could have both aspects. Nerfed safe health without destroying the move

[knotty sigil]

PLEase bring any combos back to him

[topaz herald]

They’re actually just elmer fudd

[topaz herald]

He still has plenty of combos, you just can’t nair into nair

But you can ftilt-usmash-nai-upair

Also after a nair if they di up you can punish a dodge with uprocket than upair, it can sneak early kills

[knotty sigil]

fake news

you might get 1 up air finish 1 out of ever 50 combos and thats cause they di'd bad or dont dodge

and even then the nair doesnt even hit half of the roster any small character say goodbye to combos

[chrome hawk]

shittalking characters is fun

[topaz herald]

You don’t open with nairs now and you can bait dodges for kills but nair to upair kills st high percents

[topaz herald]

Also you can bait “bad di” by punishing them for good di thus making them di the way you want to

Bugs still has combos but not easy 70% combos

Btw a great edge gaurding option when there below the edge is safe followed up by down air

[knotty sigil]

i play alot of bugs i know all of this the problem is he has 1 true combo that only works on half of the cast and all his other stuff is praying they mess up thats not skill expression thats hoping the other player is bad

he has jab uptilt nair which works on almost everyone except any short character

and forward air nair upair which again never work on short characters

[topaz herald]

You can read di and punish its not hoping there bad. Bugs akso has alot of ways to punish dodges

[topaz herald]

Also you said earlier he has no combos and now you’re talking about a true combo you know. So he does still have combos and isn’t void of combos

[topaz herald]

Literally fake news that you yourself disagree with. You know he still has at least one true combo which is more than no combos

Also uprocket can hit into upair for early kills

[calm parrot]

i might have to switch characters now

bugs is gutted

you gotta plan your stuff out now

[topaz herald]

Thats kind of how i always played. Hes still good but hes not mindless anymore and doesnt have 70% combos you can use as a crutch

But glad he was nerfed a bit to seperate the bugs mains from the players who rely on top tier stuff

[calm parrot]

i just like bugs tbh

[pseudo sapphire]

Nah he’s doing fine

Went 4-1 with a 3 stock no issue. Just use tunnel more with the perk and try to read ppl

[calm parrot]

yeah

im testing the kiss perk

but its kinda bad

icl ppl complained so much for bugs when shaggy is the same way

[topaz herald]

The kiss perks main use is edge gayrding

The kiss is can be used to stop people from rushing up the edge back onto the stage and great against stuff like most charging arial attacks like jokers and wonder womens. Finns one with the lock on is the only one that seems to ignore it

Also just throwing out a kiss before they respawn to stay behind is a decent way to avoid getting bun rushed at thier spawn

[calm parrot]

hm

shaggy is probs S tier now no?

since a lot of ppl got nerfed

might swap to tnj tbh

or taz

[topaz herald]

If they didn’t touch him I wouldn’t be surprised

[topaz herald]

Also the kiss is great at stopping projectiles

[fast anchor]

Yk I think bugs is a pretty good example of something I've been noticing in the way people talk about characters in general, including how a few of them actually get balanced

A lot of people were talking about bugs saying he's too good (which was true) and that they should nerf safe, nerf his combos, nerf his killpower nerf x y z right

So devs go and do that they nerf everything people are talking about, and then, whether its nerfing one thing too hard like in this case, or just nerfing everything when only a couple of those would work, character feels bad to play now

Like in this case me personally I loved doing a bunch of BS with the safe, thought it was really cool when I (admittedly accidentally most of the time) hit the safe in the right way so it would follow my opponent and kill them

Bugs of course isn't the only character I've noticed this with I've seen it with a lot of characters across fighting games but I guess he's like the new example of something actually happening with it

Idk I might just be yapping

[little fractal]

Like the bugs changes. He still feels good to play

[calm parrot]

you know whats crazy

they took bugs and batmans away and not morty's

[calm parrot]

they should of made bugs not be able to dmg safe

then safe would be 3 hits and not 2

[little fractal]

Happy the nair spam is gone

[odd thorn]

Am I the suck, or is Bugs vs Finn one of the most brutal match-ups?

Feels impossible to get in on him. He's got speed, range, and heavy comboability and his side special eats my pies.

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-sleepy-gif-13447275

[grim crystal]

I am Bugs Bunny Main, I have 1300 wins and I am losing 3-0 in every 1v1 match without exception.

is this good???

[limpid berry]

This is a skill issue

You guys are so character carried lmao

Losing this hard because you lost your infinite is insane

[grim crystal]

No i played since beta and i am not bad player. bugs bunny lose ever matchup beceuse he is not a combo and his case is not hit enemy beceuse broke easily and he is not play anymore

[limpid berry]

Safe always takes 3 hits to break no matter what (unless armor break attack hits it)

You still have combos

[grim crystal]

He is magic okay? But he has not case anymore and what does he? just rocket?

Bugs bunny attacks are not safe and he doesnt play

Pies are very bad beceuse do not any

[limpid berry]

Ima be honest dawg I got no idea wtf you're tryna say

[grim crystal]

Why

[limpid berry]

Your English isn't very good

[grim crystal]

Yes i am sorry

I mean the other characters are better than bugs bunny in 1v1

[limpid berry]

There are better characters but Bugs isn't bad

He's still A tier

[grim crystal]

I watched video in yestarday and the man put bugs bunny in c tier

İ think he is not a tier

[limpid berry]

He's A tier

Still has decently strong combos, high kill power, strong hitboxes, and good projectiles

[magic yarrow]

Yep they ruined his character, he feels slower, most his things get prioritized now.

[little fractal]

Skill issue

[lament eagle]

I feel like I've definitely noticed not being able to do things as quickly as before, but up air still hits like a truck so I'd say he's fine

[magic yarrow]

I guess he’s mid now

[tribal lance]

saw some neat tech from a Bugs last night.

They sent their rocket to go upwards but were able to fastfall with it downwards before it started it's animation to go up.

Smashed my head with it a few times haha

[rancid sparrow]

Damn

Bugs feels uh

Not so good now

Do we even have combos anymore?

[rancid sparrow]

Not anymore, Bugs is prob low B Tier now

He barely has combos anymore

Somehow got hit the hardest of any character

[limpid berry]

Bugs mains whining when they dont have an infinite

[rancid sparrow]

?

That's not the problem lol

[limpid berry]

You guys have combos, figure them out

Shaggy has no combos

[rancid sparrow]

We have 2 hit combos and that's it now

Joker and WW got barely nerfed

Even though they were and still are both stronger then Bugs

[topaz herald]

yes plenty but not nearly as long but still decent ones, fair to forward attack to upsmash to nair to a follow up is a decent low percent one

[topaz herald]

okay elmer fudd

[topaz herald]

there is more combos but they require mixxing stuff up also the cooldown specials can be used in combos

[limpid berry]

Oh we got a FUNNY GUY over here

[topaz herald]

i mean this a bugs channel, and you're giving massive elmer fudd energy. so obessed over bugs

but not useful in anyway

[fast anchor]

Doesn't seem to be very good at hunting wabbits

[topaz herald]

elmer fudd really isn't that's why he's so bitter and spending so much time here

[fast anchor]

He's still entertaining though

[topaz herald]

yep

also his upair still kills well

and you can lead into it

[fast anchor]

I think I'm adjusting pretty decently to the changes to his combo game ngl

Being more dependent on DI is something I'm already familiar with (I main inkling in smash) so it's honestly making it more fun for me

I can't do my funny safe things anymore tho that really sucks

Safe honestly feels really bad I don't like that

[topaz herald]

also they messed with the buffer after nair and it keeps eating jumps for me now and that gets me the most

[fast anchor]

I didn't notice that until you pointed it out now I keep getting pie

Lmao

[little fractal]

I like playing bugs now that he’s not stupid

[topaz herald]

yea that tilts me a bit

like i'm fine with no nair infinite combos but don't make every follow up landing with nair harder to do for air stuff

[topaz herald]

one thing that helps me a lot is instead of air dodging in his strings throwing out a nair or dair will help a bunch also DI down and away from him

[fast anchor]

I think they just increased the endlag a little bit was that in the patch notes?

I'm doing the combo in training mode rn and I'm just delaying the dair and getting it consistently enough

It still feels bad but at least I'm getting it

What perks do you guys like running? All mine are increasing the damage output of his combos

I'm running flammable, collateral damage and pugilist

[topaz herald]

the flamable is good though with the safe nerf not nearly as good

the 100 over i love cause bugs is great at surviving high percents

[fast anchor]

Yeah it's def not as good with the safe nerf but rocket, pie and sandwich all also proc it

I tend to get it with rocket since I tend to send that upward a good amount

I like sending it through the rabbit hole so it comes down again later that way I can send out two rockets

I should try out last stand ngl I didn't really give it much thought at first

[topaz herald]

yea it's very good when you play keepaway and lure people into looney toones traps

[fast anchor]

I freakin love playing Looney tunes im gonna set up a perk set with that rn

What do you recommend with it?

[topaz herald]

i like using the kiss perk

[topaz herald]

also a useful combo is forward air , dodge dash fair, great for getting peopel off the stage and depending on their di can follow up or at least keep them off stage

[pseudo sapphire]

Jab > Up tilt > nair is a good combo if you want

I haven’t been having trouble playing Bugs but I do have to agree that you do struggle more to get kills

But like he’s a zoner so he’s not meant to rush ppl down ig

[fast anchor]

Yeah he's not exactly meant to have a good close quarters game so I get it

[topaz herald]

Yea he can’t approach with nair anymore

[knotty isle]

I miss dair into nair

I'm not asking for the infinite back I just really liked that combo

If dair into Nair was true and didn't lead into anything I'd still be happy or if there is a way to just stop it from combing over and over again that would be nice.

[limpid berry]

Shaggy lost his dair > nair and you will too

[knotty isle]

To be honest like bugs, shaggy should still have that combo just not infinite

[pseudo sapphire]

It’s impossible to have that combo without it becoming an infinite

[knotty isle]

Ik I'm just venting cuz I miss old bugs

He needed a nerf but he definitely isn't as fun as before

Although I still think he's a decent character

[limpid berry]

Shaggy dair was never infinite, not even once

Dair > nair ended there

Could extend with a sair though

[knotty isle]

I never really played shaggy but if so why did they remove it. I get he's pretty strong right now but I don't think dair Nair is really that bad. To be fair I haven't really versed any good shaggy players though so I wouldn't know.