#Black Adam

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prime osprey
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Litearly

fickle zephyr
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flight mode gives adam literally INSANE neutral presence

desert egret
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Nah, I'll have to disagree with you on this one, his neutral is only decent at max, he's constantly getting combo'ed

fickle zephyr
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nobody controls airspace like he does

desert egret
native frigate
fickle zephyr
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t&j are actually a tougher mu for bladam yeah

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bugs ive found hasnt been too bad

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not good

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but not bad either

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probably like 6-4 bugs favor

thick verge
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I dont use flight mode , is that a bad thing?

prime osprey
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Very bad

desert egret
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I don't use it much either

prime osprey
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But not using it at all is bad

desert egret
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I just use it for air combos/kills

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Or recovery ofc

thick verge
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I dont want to bother yall too hard but is there atleast a combo thats true and deals like 40-50 damage?

desert egret
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I'd say your best bet is up tilt into down air, neutral air, side special and side tilt

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Some ppl will still dodge it but you can just adapt to that by up tilting again, using neutral air earlier, using side special, ETC

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All your combos depend on your opponent's level of skill and/or playstyle

native frigate
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also why does side special launch you off the platform

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taking you nearly to map edge

fickle zephyr
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Black Adam flight and side special are super super great movement tools

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Not even in just his kits context

brazen root
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can any1 teach me how to play black adam? thanks

fickle zephyr
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Side B to cover alot of distance or cross up

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Flight also let's you space aerials better

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Fair and jab kill (fair off the top for combos, jab off of...anywhere. neutral grounded attack is stupid strong)

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Play the midrange threatening with aerial down B's and flight spaced normals, punish hasty approaches

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You're not fishing for combos, you're fishing for counterhits that lead into tech chases

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Bubble if they're projectile heavy, but don't just bubble on the opposite side of the stage and camp. Put it close to them, make them scared of bubbles utility

brazen root
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DAMN

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thats alot

woven cape
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This black Adam guy

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Cannot kill

azure heath
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Gonna be trying out the Adam
Because His Fly ability interests me. How do we approach the neutral game with him?

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Read the Above Comment, Very Helpful, I think it answers my question so nvm lol

bronze folio
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Sure she's faster but she's light, lotta of wonder woman's moves literally cancel yours, she is heavy and can activate super armor whenever she wants

desert egret
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Just neutral attack bruh

woven cape
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His neutral is pretty bad

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You can play around it and it has a ton of endlag

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Maybe I’m struggling because of Xbox performance issues idk

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His air neutral is fire

desert egret
woven cape
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But black Adam also has

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Like no priority on his kit

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😭

desert egret
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Also, aerial down B into side aerial

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Or just neutral aerial

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Anyways, killpower is one of the things adam has THE MOST

desert egret
woven cape
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It’s not that I have bad WiFi aswell it’s just performance issues

bronze folio
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Kills pretty early tho, if you do manage to hit it

woven cape
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I’ve hit someone at 157 2 games ago and it didn’t kill

bronze folio
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I wish the actual dash from his side special did damage

desert egret
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IDK what everyone has against ground neutral, it's way better than in beta and it's my go-to kill move

desert egret
woven cape
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Gets outranged and is pretty slow, you’re better off using nair instead

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His neutral special is a whole different story though

bronze folio
desert egret
bronze folio
desert egret
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Or anyone comig horizontally in general

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Like against banana guard

desert egret
bronze folio
desert egret
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Compared to neutral special it's safe AF lol

bronze folio
desert egret
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Also, it's great for ledge trapping

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And it recovers fast enough for you to at least start an up tilt

desert egret
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They should nerf the speed of that crap

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And ppl say black adam is a toxic character when banana guard exists lol

viral mango
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Actually crazy

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He feels like the most balanced character in the game imo

desert egret
viral mango
brazen root
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can any black adam 1v1 me and tell me what to improve?

oak gust
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The fact that Black Adam's lightning strike has no cooldown is insane

tardy rapids
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his nspecial having no cd and can be done in the air is a crazy change for me

timid ravine
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That's how he ended up eating big nerfs in beta despite being a pretty crappy character at the time

tidal crater
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Okay, has anyone hit a clip with neutral special chaining off projectiles yet?

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I managed to land that one time so far and it felt amazing

heavy cave
tidal crater
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I found out with a Gizmo

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chained off his popcorn, car then onto the gizmo lol

heavy cave
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definitely feels like Adam destroys Bugs in a 2v2 setting especially with the chain bouncing off safe AND destroy the safe

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streets saying there’s a black adam infinite…

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jab jab dodge jab jab dair dair dair dair dair

tidal crater
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that sounds not true at all

heavy cave
thorny hatch
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combos on bots dont really mean much, cus the bots dont di

heavy cave
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i’m gonna lab it and try to see if i can hit it online

desert egret
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Man I'm trying to play other characters to get points but I am way too accustomed to adam

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The way of black adam is too strong

willow forge
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im actually accustomed to black adam

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in 2s hes a demon but 1s i have now been able to have a good time if i try to use his kit startegically

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u gotta work for ur kills with black adam but it feels mad satisfying

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for 1s

feral atlas
timid ravine
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day 1 he was busted cause you could combo up tilt into neutral attack pretty reliably, they corrected that pretty quickly

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after that he was pretty mediocre except shock damage from neutral special doing obscene damage in some cases

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but instead of just fixing that bugged interaction, they listened to all the whiners and nerfed or broke practically all of his kit except nair

feral atlas
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Yeah they ended up making him the only character with actual endlag in the whole game

timid ravine
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I'm pretty surprised air down special works in this version considering how long they let it be broken and unreliable

timid ravine
feral atlas
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Yeah it's actually quite good

timid ravine
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the only endlag they added was to up attack which already was punishable on whiff

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air down special used to no reg if it hit anywhere near an opponents hands

feral atlas
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People were so mad at the armor mainly

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So they hit everything about the move

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Meanwhile in the last patch they mega buff Superman LMAO

timid ravine
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they even nerfed the already tiny hitbox on the air version

feral atlas
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They definitely overreacted with a lot of feedback on him

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Which is just crazy to me

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Considering Finn/Jake/Harley were more widely complained about and had 10x the playerbase but hardly got anything done

timid ravine
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the thing is the feedback they acted on was high level players on the procord, so it wasn't even the scrubs on twitter that forced their hand

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devs should never take player feedback as gospel, no matter whose take it is

feral atlas
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For sure

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I'm just glad he launched in a pretty reasonable state for 2s

timid ravine
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yeah for sure

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they're hella gonna nerf neutral special though

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the counterplay isn't obvious/easy enough for casual play

feral atlas
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If they do I hope they end up compensating with buffs elsewhere because his entire game plan relies on it

surreal tree
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Is black adam meta

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what perks

prime osprey
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Cause i just labbed this

steady onyx
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Somebody can say me some tips with black Adam?

hidden spire
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Best perks for Adam?

hidden spire
timid ravine
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down air special and dair setup for it pretty well

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you can hold down after neutral special to toss em down for potential followups

timid ravine
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thats flammable doc is great in slot one

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other two slots are whatever

prime osprey
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Knock back>flammable

timid ravine
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You talking about the one that apply weakened?

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Cause snowball doesn't give extra knockback

unique kraken
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im da best black adam ngl

hidden spire
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Does pugilist only work for the auto combo?

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Or is it all melee hits?

timid ravine
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All melee hits

hidden spire
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Niiice

timid ravine
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Basically everything except special attacks for BA

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Wouldn't be surprised if some attacks are bugged and not receive the bonus though

hidden spire
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Fair

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I feel like the air platform could be good for vertical combos

timid ravine
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A lot of moves aren't flagged correctly for missions and whatnot so I'd be surprised if perks are all working correctly

hidden spire
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Like up tilt combo into another uptilt into neutral

timid ravine
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Air platform is good for doing side special off of

hidden spire
hidden spire
timid ravine
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If you go off the edge of a platform as you side special, you'll get a massive speed boost

hidden spire
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Woah

timid ravine
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So the platform on demand lets you cover the stage pretty quick

hidden spire
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Don’t I need to manage my shock orbs though?

timid ravine
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You still get the boost without it

tardy rapids
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has anyone been doing anything with air platform?

tardy rapids
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oooo

hidden spire
prime osprey
prime osprey
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Got my ass handed to me by a good joker

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His air juggling is a nightmare

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My god

desert egret
prime osprey
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Jokergot a counter???

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Bro I hate this bum ahh bannana guard

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This side charge is ridiculous

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So hard to simple avoid

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I'm about to start staying on platforms to avoid his annoying ahh

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Let him come to me fr

hidden spire
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Did you guys know Adam has loops?

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Jab, Jab, Neutral special aimed down (both inputs) repeat

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It goes from 0 to 90

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(With the shock main perk and burn perk)

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(+melee)

prime osprey
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Yea I knew this

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That's honestly the first loop u can figure out in the lab

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Effective to

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U can end it with ur neutral if they are decently hifh

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Hogh

coral nymph
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Which is the best Peak?

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Can anyone send me a better advantage for him?

prime osprey
hidden spire
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Both in direction and in launch direction

prime osprey
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Huh

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What is the neutral special

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Thunderbolt right? Cause how does aiming down help

waxen slate
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u aim it down when u first shoot it

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and then u might not know this but black Adam can choose whether to throw people up or down after getting hit by neutral special

hidden spire
waxen slate
# prime osprey Wait how are u doing this twice

get what we mean? it's kinda like super man up b, where the first hit grabs them and then u can hold which direction U want, except wit black Adam, instead of a grab, it's a projectile that u can also aim up or down and then choose up or down to throw em

desert egret
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Man, I got into a match against a steven and I was getting combo'd to like 50% so I thought "dang, steven is broken"

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Then I killed him at like 30/40% and was like "oh"

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Nvm I just got into another 2 matches against him and lost badly 💀

willow forge
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guys is there a black adam pro player

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to look up for some tips

thorny hatch
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Nah

desert egret
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(it's a joke)

lavish jolt
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Any black adam glitches?

surreal tree
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what perks for black adam?

lavish jolt
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or infinite combos

past phoenix
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Can you send links to several videos of a professional fight for Black Adam?

willow forge
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jun 7th is when maybe ranked comes out i am cooked

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idk any combos or nothing

prime osprey
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He doesn't ha be alot lol

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Have

surreal tree
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anyone wanna blackadam 2v2

prime osprey
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The one I been using is jab jab lightning strike into drop kick

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If u space a bit u can go for the thunder clap to kill after lightning strike

sharp sorrel
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to the black adam mains that dont spam i respect the combos you guys pull off with your lighting gizmo

prime osprey
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Ba is definetly not someone u wanna spam

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Alot of endlag on some moves

surreal tree
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Wen do I need to use the shield

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for black adam

prime osprey
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The projectile spammers rn like bugs and gizmo make it obvious when the projectile is about to come out

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So that's when I place my bubble

surreal tree
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alr

prime osprey
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Ngl why does black Adam's little side lightning bolt cause him to freeze In place for a whole second

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Must be a 2v2 balance thing or something

timid ravine
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the move is hella cracked now that's why

surreal tree
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you mean the big lighting

prime osprey
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Yesh

prime osprey
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Cause sometimes I mean to release earlier but it doesn't happen

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So I look goofy

timid ravine
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dont use it in neutral unless it's a hard read

prime osprey
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Hm

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I try to use it for hard read but I guess atp it wasn't a hard read to begin with lol

sage robin
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Playing BA feels like you have 3 mid air jumps

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The amount of height this character gets in his advantage state is insane

prime osprey
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I'm trying so hard to figure out how to extend jab jab thunderstike

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The drop kick is innaccuraye

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I'm not always hitting it for some reason

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Also holy crap shocked perk may actually be good

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Provided u can actually land the shocking move

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Might try over the well rounded for now

timid ravine
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shocked perk sucks pretty bad

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shock status doesn't last nearly long enough to take advantage of

prime osprey
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Yea you are right eh

timid ravine
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might be approach viability with a garnet partner maybe

sage robin
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I barely even notice when I shock my opponent lol

timid ravine
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its like neutral special and neutral attack only

prime osprey
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U guys think there's a way to extend this into a true combo after thunderstrike

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Or does it just end there

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Woah wrong clip

sage robin
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Nevermind

timid ravine
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uptilt followups are pretty are pretty unreliable

sage robin
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Adams jab is also really weird

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It feels way harder to cancel into stuff on the second hit than it should

prime osprey
sage robin
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after that it mostly just becomes a mix up

prime osprey
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Like sometimes I can follow up with the kick+clap others I cant

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Inaccurate asf

sage robin
timid ravine
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di dependant

sage robin
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That aswell

prime osprey
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Ahh you are right

timid ravine
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try using side special instead of up tilt

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or you can go straight into the kick from the second jab

prime osprey
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Hmm alr

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Holy

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Nvm

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The side special can be dodged

prime osprey
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But I feel like lightning strike is just better atp

timid ravine
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its better against huge characters or people that won't di at all

prime osprey
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Oooo

prime osprey
timid ravine
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I didn't know there was a gap there since side special comes out pretty fast

prime osprey
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I figured out how to implement the clap

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It's hit box is massive

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Nvm..

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Works on higher percentages it seems

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YES!

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Works after 60%

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Kills at 111% on shaggy

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Yooo

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Notice how the moment 60% is it, the clap starts to actually land

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This kills at 110%+ on shaggy I noticed

timid ravine
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you can definitely do in there and avoid the clap

dire goblet
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Best build for black Adam pls

timid ravine
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plus up tilt is even easier to di out of at high percents

prime osprey
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Hmmm right right

timid ravine
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hats flammable doc is great in slot 1, other two are preference

dire goblet
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Uh idk much about the game

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Js tell me what’s the best to put on him

timid ravine
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just switch out the second slot with "thats flammable, doc"

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leave the others as default

dire goblet
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Ok

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Speed force assist and pugilist?

timid ravine
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yep

dire goblet
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And the 5%?

timid ravine
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yep

dire goblet
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Alr thanks!

timid ravine
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np

surreal tree
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Isnt circuit breaker better

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I run circuit breaker, Thats flammable, doc, speed force assist and armour killer

timid ravine
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nah circuit breaker is pretty bad

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shocked status doesn't last very long

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only neutral special and neutral attack give shocked now and it's not as easy to combo off neutral special now

ruby anchor
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im trying out black Adam for 1s, i think he's my new favorite 1s character

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i don't know if he's really good but i just like him

sage robin
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insane killpower, good survivabilitiy, puts you in a 50/50 in basically every juggle scenario and amazing movement

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only slightly hard part is neutral but even then he's great at shutting down other characters neutrals with his gigantic aireals or removing projectiles from the game projectiles down B

ruby anchor
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i feel like his neutral ground is insane

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it has so much kill power

azure coral
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The Shazam family as a Black Adam variant would be cool

sage robin
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it's an amzing soul read

sage robin
past phoenix
sage robin
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Ben has a better case since the Omnitrix can defend itself

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But Shazam does basically nothing as Billy other than turn back into Shazam since y'know
He's 13

past phoenix
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Ben-10 is very beautifully made there with its bunch of shapes.

sage robin
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I mentioned how Ben has a stronger case for that before

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Also this is the Black Adam channel let's go back to the topic lol

past phoenix
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Shaggy doesn't have a particularly strong argument for protecting himself either. He's just a man.

native frigate
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there is no instance anyone should lose against BA

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those that do are bad or don't know what he does

tidal crater
past phoenix
past phoenix
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I would like to see Albedo as a skin (and Ultimatrix skins for monsters)
And Kevin Levin in the form of the Omnitrix absorber as a character.

native frigate
native frigate
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people just say he's strong because they're better players than who they're playing against. but put it in equal skill leve and he is worse off than IG or Jason

past phoenix
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then could you please upload some videos about the players so that I can see how good players play?

sage robin
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Comparing Adam to IG is like comparing Wolf to Little Mac

thorny hatch
thorny hatch
sage robin
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Though I will say

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Adam has alot more unfavorable matchups than you'd like a top tier like him to have

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But then again, that's because those bad match ups are top tiers

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Jake and Harley are horrible for him for example

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Every other matchup is even or favorable

thorny hatch
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Harley horrible for everyone lol

native frigate
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no matchup is even
you're either better at reading your opponent or you lose
there is nothing you can

thorny hatch
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Have you ever played a fighting game before

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Im truthfully wondering

sage robin
thorny hatch
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People just be saying whatever, without any knowledge of the game

sage robin
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not alot of characters have cheat neutral buttons that aren't on cooldowns (unless if you're a yellow dog)

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this game is about moving around your opponent and knowing when to go in or stay out, and Adam is really good at moving around his opponent

thorny hatch
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Adam projectile game also crazy

native frigate
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would love to be proven wrong when ranked comes out.
but when it does and he's bottom tier you all gonna be looking at me with surprise pikachu face

thorny hatch
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and his neutral special makes his side special a good projectile

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why does ranked need to come out to determine his tier? In smash Little Mac has high win rate but is still one of the worst characters

sage robin
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you can disagree of course but your argument is just a guess

native frigate
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and yet no tourny play with him

sage robin
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not a bad one per say, but a really unlikely one considering how he's looking

sage robin
thorny hatch
sage robin
native frigate
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yet you're all throwing out that he's top tier because these same players say so

thorny hatch
native frigate
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can't be too early if everyone else is saying at same time

sage robin
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potential is also a huge factor in terms of character viability

native frigate
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not saying BA can't be strong just saying he does not win a single matchup in an equal skill fight

sage robin
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Melee for example has alot of top tiers that haven't won many majors, but are still considered to be very strong

sage robin
thorny hatch
tidal crater
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The entire Black Adam downplay is completely invalid because of air down special alone bruh

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that move alongside flight hold such an oppressive angle

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it's impossible to edgeguard BA

thorny hatch
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He is without a doubt in my mind S Tier

tidal crater
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yeah

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BA is easily up there with the best characters

sage robin
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BA is what happens when you give ganondorf an actual float

thorny hatch
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What I enjoy though is this game has a lot of depth when it comes to tiers, people have been saying a wide range of characters are S Tier with exception of select few very low tiers

native frigate
thorny hatch
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BA is frl what Ive always wanted ganon to be

tidal crater
sage robin
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Uppercut, Uppercut in the air, Rang offstage

tidal crater
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Look at Finn

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Backpack

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Backpack

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Backpack

thorny hatch
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Competitive MVS is so nice, this tourney has been great so far

azure coral
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what are some variants of black Adam you would like to see? I would like to see the Shazam family being variants

thorny hatch
sage robin
azure coral
sage robin
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Or is there a server maybe

thorny hatch
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Just follow a prominent player in the MvS scene u wont miss many tourneys

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Bugzvii plays in almost every tourney so theres that

azure coral
thorny hatch
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But SPOILERS.

Powerpuff girls and Samurai Jack have been leaked, so im glad they are finally doing something different

azure coral
tidal crater
desert egret
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Man I just want woody woodpecker

azure coral
limpid kestrel
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Did the devs actually buff this mf again 😭

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He was already in the top 5 in beta

tidal crater
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He was bottom tier lol

native frigate
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always will be.
everyones on copium so that they can continue playing their projectile spamming cahrxzs

tidal crater
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dawg

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find better bait to regurgitate

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you bring nothing of value to the chat by trying to rage-bait

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at least you could go and do this in the wonder woman chat

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it'd be marginally funnier

native frigate
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found one

limpid kestrel
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BA mains on their way to downplay harder than HQ mains

desert egret
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He's still a monster in raw killpower and damage output, it's just his neutral that is crap and the fact that he needs to ACTUALLY WORK for his wins that make him kinda underwhelming compared to the rest of the cast

limpid kestrel
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"underwhelming" and it's just a character where you can't mash 2 attacks like BG or WW

native frigate
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that's the entire point.
people keep saying he's s tier because he hits hard.
good luck getting those hits off vs any competant player

desert egret
prime osprey
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With this logic shoot maybe ww or something isn't s tier neither

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I can agree that unranked isn't the best way to see how good a character is in general

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U needa peep ranked or tourneys

prime osprey
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Top5 black adam in beta, w bait

limpid kestrel
prime osprey
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What was your top 5 in beta then

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I needa know how BA fit into that list

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Cause bro was mid->ass

prime osprey
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I need void to drop a full video on black ada

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Adam

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I need an adam to watch

feral shard
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I'm in bracket and I'm bouta fight a Black Adam, y'all got any tips for me? I main Iron Giant btw

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Nvm the Black Adam lost

sacred galleon
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Boutta start maining this loser

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As my second main

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In the right hands this man S tier bruh

ruby anchor
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i picked him up like yesterday and haven't lost a single game yet

prime osprey
surreal tree
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I hope they buff blackadam

wide badger
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Did you guys try his tech with airwalk (perk) its really good and it saved me so many times. When you guys spawn a platform and use side special you get a CRAZY boost of momentum you guys should try it

wide badger
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i dont understand are you saying that he doesn not need it ?

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its not that he needs it or not but i think it is better having it for disadvantage in the sides its really great for getting back in the middle

ruby anchor
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I mean you could say the same for every other character

wide badger
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you need setups for kills

ruby anchor
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ah yeah well neutral special whiff has gotten me in a combo multiple times

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yeah i was agreeing with you?

prime osprey
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U got any gameplay on yt

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What would be ur advice on engaging in general with him

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/starting off the battle

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Figures, it had alot of endlag

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I like starting off with that, usually draws them into me

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Oh that's cool, I fly alot to but usually not for engaging and stuff

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Just for spacing and making them whiff

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That's true

desert egret
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After 3-0'ing like 3 harleys in a row I'm starting to think harley isn't as bad of a matchup as I thought

wide badger
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Nah flight against good players they can contest it if you are in the below right (or left) corner of the screen but with this tech you can fly away and do it to zoom in to the middle that is why its great and its good for closing huge distances to interrupt set ups or power ups

surreal tree
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Also when do I need to use up special (flying)

wide badger
prime osprey
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When are yall using the neutral special

desert egret
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Jokes aside, I generally use it when the character mostly approaches on the ground

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It's too hard to read jumps at the correct angle

prime osprey
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Yea lel

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Seems to be a nice combo starter tho

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But it's so punishable

desert egret
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SOOOOO punishable

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It's basically a "hit me" sign

wide badger
#

sry took me long

surreal tree
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thanks

wide badger
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NP

wide badger
surreal tree
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I love playing with him he is so broken lol

marble garnet
#

i dont play black adam but damn

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last game i had a black atom that was just comboing me

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for some flipping reason his combos can just suck you in

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even if you move away

fervent hazel
#

is jab 1-2 neutral special possible still?

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good to know ty

cobalt mason
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jab 1-2 up tilt is true tho

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@fervent hazel

fervent hazel
#

honestly thinking about playing BA in tournies since morty is so bugged out rn

cobalt mason
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when you say neutral special

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do you mean the neutral attack?

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@fervent hazel

fervent hazel
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i was going to ask about both @cobalt mason

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the attack and the special

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i’d lab it out myself but i’m workin atm

cobalt mason
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also it can’t combo itself because of how slow the projectile is

fervent hazel
#

what’s the bnb rn?

cobalt mason
cobalt mason
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but i don’t know tbh

fervent hazel
#

yea that’s what i figured

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i’ll lab this guy out later today see if i like him in ones

floral loom
#

is jab dair also a solid option for combo starters?

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just curious because i’ve been seeing people opt for that route aswell

cobalt mason
#

if others are doing and it’s working it might work

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i never tried it

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i usually stick the the jab upsmash

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and from that upsmash you have options based on the di

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if it’s di down you can just down sir again

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and in some cases you can jump side special and hit them with the lightning strike

cobalt mason
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but also is uptilt is mad good

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it will drag em to the middle if you hit the outer edge

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plus super armor

willow forge
#

is black adam very hard to play?

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he look fancy n all but i dont wanna have to play countless hours to know how to play him decently

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btw is june 7th when ranked coming

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or whenever that challange is

tardy rapids
#

there's been times where I forget I have air down special lool

tidal crater
#

I forget I have neutral special lol

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Every single time I've ever done backwards side special into down special for a quick reflect, it has hit so far

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People just don't see it coming for some reason

desert egret
#

I just think adam needs to stay right where he is honestly

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If I had to buff any move it would probably be aerial down special to make it easier to confirm into air kills

thorny hatch
#

He is really solid

desert egret
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Yeah, he is really strong in some aspects and weak AF in others, I like that

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I said aerial down SPECIAL, the small 1-2 lightning bolts that shoot downwards diagonally

tidal crater
#

At least it remains active, unlike Jason sleeping bag

desert egret
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It was better in the beta, now you can't even hit some characters out of a short hop

tidal crater
#

You just tap down slightly longer against those

desert egret
#

Adam IS kind of a tank tho

tidal crater
#

Or use flight for a mini hop instead of jumping

willow forge
#

Guys what are the perks for ones

tidal crater
#

I would honestly give side special i-frames on the dash when it's off-Cooldown, make it a counter move with the peojectile combo starter

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Flammable, last stand, pugilist

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But yeah, hardly anything I'd outright buff on Black Adam, he's very strong as is

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I'd do that to his side special, but just because it'd make the move more fun

desert egret
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Press advantage is not really that useful too, I'm damage focused

tidal crater
#

He's not saying to run press the advantage either

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He's saying to run the ignite projectiles perk

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The passive fire dmg stacks more than an overall 7%

desert egret
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There's like 2 projectiles

tidal crater
#

Also, 15% extra dmg on shocked enemies + 5% extra dmg from pugilist is enough

desert egret
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Though I will hear you out

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Oh, that changes everything

tidal crater
#

Pretty sure dtilt and utilt are both projectiles

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Not sure about up air

willow forge
#

wth i cant change perks it says must own fighter, i bought this guy on release and i literally just changed his perks 5 seconds ago...

tidal crater
#

Not to mention you can easily and frequently combo into projectiles like side special or neutral special

willow forge
#

ai ill just restart

tidal crater
#

So in the end, you ignite enemies often

willow forge
#

i need someone to run ones against me so i can learn against them

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i need to become more creative with this guy

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Bannana guard is real nasty though

sacred galleon
#

Black adam does crazy dmg

#

Holy f

desert egret
#

Man I was playing as joker and got my ahh beat by two adams

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Ahh the comedic irony

willow forge
#

just got black adam, any good perks and tips on how to play him??

cobalt mason
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use your flight

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it gives you great advantage

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remember you’re neutral air breaks through armor as well

willow forge
#

thanks

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and the perks?

cobalt mason
#

i run circuit breaker
snowball
last stand
pugilist

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and when i play against WW and iron giant i use armor killer

tidal crater
#

Think that if you deal 100 dmg, snowball is only adding 7 extra dmg

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But if you ignite like, twice during those 100 dmg, you're already doing more

acoustic schooner
#

Any bread and butter simple combos I should be doing with Black Adam?

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I want to pick him up

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Gotcha

willow forge
#

holy crap black adam is so nasty if u use flight then keep juggling

acoustic schooner
#

Yeah I need to utilize his mobility a lot more

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It's amazing

desert egret
#

I prefer a single side air, it catches dodging enemies and kills earlier

acoustic schooner
#

So his up air, lightning effect has 2 charges?

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I'm just trying to figure out all his kill moves

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His clap move seems to be the best

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And his neutral attack

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They hit very hard

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I use clap to usually engage a fight

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What moves do you engage with?

fervent cypress
#

Black Adam has a nice kill combo with up attack (if the lighting strikes em back down) into neutral air

acoustic schooner
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Hmm

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🔥

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What do you mean reflect off of it?

surreal tree
sage robin
#

yeah that's a weird thing tbh

#

discoveries can't really be shared with just words lol

delicate fjord
#

Labbed this kill loop, what do you guys think?

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Still have to test in an actual match and against later

acoustic schooner
#

Ight i had some decent games with black adam. You have to read ahead of your opponent a lot and I like that about this game.

#

Wonder Woman is my primary character

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So Black Adam is my 2nd pick lately

sage robin
#

i feel like everyone can play ww

sage robin
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yeah for sure, but to say she's not one of the easier characters to co-main would be a bit of a lie

delicate fjord
#

Yeah I don't think I can loop into a kill in game but the beginning is nice for some quick damage

#

Thanks he's really fun and strong

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That's true

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I turn around when I do lightning most of the time to pull them it feels consistent, unless my opponents don't know how to di

willow forge
#

ww is cancer

dusty rover
#

just came here to asy you're all dog and carried by an unbalanced bull character

dusty rover
desert egret
tribal patio
dusty rover
#

🤣

tribal patio
desert egret
dusty rover
#

still adam mains get

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some respect since

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you're not playing harley buggs or banana guard

desert egret
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BG mains are genuine freaks of nature

dusty rover
#

facts

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they smell bro

desert egret
dusty rover
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harley too

dusty rover
#

still hes annoying when u main marvin cause

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he cancels out 9 of ur moves

desert egret
# dusty rover harley too

I might be crazy but some harleys are fun to play against once you know what you're doing against them

dusty rover
#

no

desert egret
dusty rover
#

shes playing on old speed and pre nerf combos

desert egret
#

I was testing him and MF had almost no endlag, I felt like he was even faster than in the beta

dusty rover
#

Yea

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finn is insane rn

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but at least he takes some sort of exection

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to play

#

execution

desert egret
#

Man I was so mad at banana guard I made AM's hate speech from "I have no mouth and I must scream" but for banana guard and his players lol

prime osprey
#

Post video in combos and direct ppl there or use stramables

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Streamablez

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I been messing up my black adam gameplay rn trying to implement any new advice I see

#

Think I'm spamming fly too much and it's too predictable but I heard that's the main strat

desert egret
#

Also, bad players are pretty easy to read, in Harley's case she's sometimes pretty punishable for her mistakes and doesn't have a lot of comeback power

desert egret
#

Banana guard

desert egret
dusty rover
#

rick and morty first

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i swear morty is just

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depressingly dog

desert egret
prime osprey
#

Yea maybe I'm overthinking

desert egret
#

I don't think I've seen a decent rick player yet lol

dusty rover
#

Hes not

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a high tier

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in any universe

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lol

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hes a mid tier

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morty is a giga low tier

prime osprey
#

I just feel like when I'm trying to land on their whiff punish I'm too predictable

dusty rover
#

high as in

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A tier?

prime osprey
#

The #1 rick so far placed 128th in mirrormans tourney

desert egret
prime osprey
#

Or so he was in the beta

dusty rover
#

hes

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low B

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but wtv

desert egret
dusty rover
#

dawg not mirrmorman

#

a guy that ranked as the #1 rick

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played in the tourney

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and didnt even get top 100

#

on rick

#

that analogy says nothing

prime osprey
#

Actually

dusty rover
#

to be honest it proves my point

prime osprey
#

Not nearly enough as I should

dusty rover
#

he played his main in a troll pick tourney

desert egret
dusty rover
#

and still got cucked since that main

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is bad

#

no?

#

was the #1 ww player in the tourney?

#

I'm not

#

you're just debating that rick is anything above a mid tier

prime osprey
dusty rover
#

which he's not

dusty rover
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comfortably

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B = balanced

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hes ok

#

morty is the one that actually NEEDS help

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if my opinion is irrelevant yours

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is in the dirt

prime osprey
#

I don't get how ppl are rating characters when there is no ranked and small tourney footage like

desert egret
# prime osprey Actually

Well, use it, Don't spam it but use it mostly when the enemy is zoning, on the air, edgeguarding or something like that, if he keeps coming on the ground try to get far enough to use neutral B (yeah I know it's punishable but it's one of his best responses on the ground) and neutral attack, depending on their ground attacks you can use aerial down B too

dusty rover
#

how do I even compete?

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I was top 100 on morty

#

ww

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and finn

#

in the beta

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I just didn't bother

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you think you're talking to someone that doesn't know how the game works

#

you're not

#

how do I even compete

#

then

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beta

#

since you didn't play it

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there were lbs

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anand rankings

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and*

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you competing in a tournament

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and probably getting sht on

#

doesn't mean anything

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you didn't get top 100

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in a few hours

#

but ok

dusty rover
#

did u get top 10

#

?

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in your tourney

prime osprey
#

It's also not helping that my small brain is still mashing a bit too frequently but I'm slowly stopping that issue

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Espically since we got alot of endlag on moves so u really don't wanna be mashing

desert egret
#

IK how it is man, take your time

#

Also, one last tip, when you're losing HARD start to think "which move I have that helps me against the thing that person is doing to mess me up ?"

prime osprey
#

Oo that's a good mentality to began heading towards

prime osprey
#

Would appreciate alot!

nocturne tendon
#

is adam worth learning?

#

i play buggs and garnet but looking to try black adam since he looks cool af saw him in a tournament last night and made me wanna try it out

prime osprey
#

Alr

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Alr

#

What's the word?

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Ngl on xbox 2s is too buggy

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Keep dcing

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Aii, I wanna try out 1s first tho

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My worst mu rn is like bugs and joker

#

Best is Jason

#

Sweet

#

Feels hard cause I always want flight I feel like

#

I'm struggling way to hard jsus

#

Jesus

#

I was trying start up the air combo but i usually don't force it so early

#

Really bad At it early

#

Aii

#

But won't that burn my dodge and make it easier to keep me from recoverng

#

Hm yea you right

#

Thid last one nd we can hop to 2s

#

But As u can see I'm spamming too much idk why

#

Ur gameplay is so calm and calculated lol

#

Idet u were really trying

#

That's true that's true

#

Wym like I gotta pay

#

Yea I noticed this a problem I struggle to follow up on the air combos

#

I thought I always was canceling the auto combo

#

Ah, nah I get it

#

Alot of Times I was missclicking aswell lol

#

Oh yea fs

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Lag spike

#

Ok

#

Hold on lemme reload

#

Shii if I can't handle 1s wonder how I'm holding up in 2s

#

I don't understand on what u mean I dint attack enough tho, like surely u see me just mashing there lmao

#

Yes I did

#

^

arctic mauve
#

How good is black adam rn? been playing superman ever since i started a couple days ago

#

I see him always on a/s tier in videos on yt

#

Wanted to see other opinions

#

Don't be a smartass nobody likes that

#

Yeah go delete your post. shame on you

#

Good

#

Easily triggered like a lil girl

#

🤣

#

Not worth my time

upbeat meteor
#

did black adam have any changes from the beta? if not, then I really slept on him omg

#

I played him during the beta for a little but I never used him like I do now

desert egret
#

He's faster, stronger, has almost no cooldowns, he got buffed AF

shut chasm
#

airwalker side special makes you fly across the screen super fast

#

pretty fun tech

fervent hazel
#

meh i tried running air walker on him but what grounded option is better than just chasing with sair and hair?

#

uair ***

fervent hazel
#

not talking about approaching.

#

i’m talking about utilizing the air walker platform

desert egret
#

Guys, I might be going to the enemy team....

#

Harley is kinda fun to play

#

I still won't main her but she'll probably be a secondary/tertiary

desert egret
#

Yeah but she's kinda similar to adam in some aspects, air controlling, side special is both an approach move and a panic button that hits behind you, kinda read focused (bc some kill confirms need setup) and is mostly a damage dealer

#

Also I just noticed almost all the characters I play are villains/antiheroes from DC lol

sacred galleon
#

Harley is basically bugs

desert egret
#

Joker came after so it's more fair to say "joker plays like harley" than "harley plays like joker"

ruby anchor
#

I used steven all throughout the beta when he was considered a C to D tier character but now he's S tier on every tier list

#

I never doubted that he could be an S tier character from the start

plain basin
#

Hey guys

desert egret
#

I trusted adam ever since the beta too

dusty rover
#

harley

#

is

#

jesus christ

#

the hate I have for that character

desert egret
#

She kinda grew up on me ngl

dusty rover
#

pity

desert egret
#

At first I hated her but then I noticed most of her players where predictable and I started to enjoy playing against her

dusty rover
#

a 3/10 harley

#

dogs on any 7/10

#

mid tier

desert egret
#

I destroyed like 3 harleys in a row yesterday

dusty rover
#

they must've been

#

really horrid

desert egret
#

Some put up a fight

dusty rover
#

fight a decent one

#

and suicide will seem plausible

desert egret
#

WW is worse

#

Cut the crying

abstract brook
#

perks?

nocturne tendon
tender yarrow
#

i have not won against a single black adam since launch

#

he's too powerpul and fast and spastic

plain basin
#

could be worse

#

it could be banana guard

desert egret
tender yarrow
desert egret
#

Skill issue

plain basin
#

we can 1v1 if you want

#

see if you can coutner

#

or dodge

nocturne tendon
willow forge
#

how do you read dodges

#

im tryna perfect my juggle

#

is that a way to read dodges so i can punish with up air

#

and the side air

nocturne tendon
#

Just comes with practice

#

The more you go the better you’ll get at reading people

#

Just give yourself time and keep running it I believe in you king

acoustic schooner
#

Most of this game comes down to practice, not everything can be taught. The more you play things will become second nature.

dusty rover
#

nah

surreal tree
#

based

young moon
#

So... how does BA kill?

#

I mean Sair seems to be the only good kill button, everything else has a gorillion frames of startup or just doesn't kill.

tender yarrow
#

who counters black adam

willow forge
#

How to deal with bugs

#

this guy just keeps spamming the spinning thing and then hamer down

#

im pretty sure its an infinite or the dodge window is very tight

desert egret
# young moon So... how does BA kill?

You're joking right ? His main selling point is damage and killpower, just space neutral attack right, same for aerial neutral attack, and for Sair, just set it up with aerial down special

#

Also backwards down air kills.....sometimes

young moon
#

I mean yeah I recognize his nair and neutral attack hit hard but they're also slow as hell (though nair does have a really strong hitbox too)

#

So no I'm not kidding

#

But the S Dair combo isn't something I knew of so thanks

#

I also know you can up air ladder with your jump and up special at early percents and sometimes kill like that

fervent hazel
finite otter
#

tf is a sair

#

southern aerial?

tidal crater
#

the jab into uppercut

nocturne tendon
#

I think ba is cool cause you can pk thunder into pk thunder and pk thunder

young moon
#

There's nair, dair, sair, and U Air. It's a term coined from smash but instead of a Sair the characters in that have a fair and bair.

plain basin
misty pine
#

Just picked this character up, any advice to playing him?

plain basin
#

Um you can bounce ur lightning ball off of thiershield and hit people in the back then charge them with ur side attack into a punch spam

plain basin
#

u keep distance?

#

i just rush ppl

desert egret
surreal tree
#

Nah I just bullied a batman by uplight sidelight uplight sidelight

misty pine
#

He didn’t have prep time

surreal tree
#

I wonder if the lighting killed him or not

willow forge
#

holy crap learning how to read dodges actually pays off alot with black adam

#

i am getting so many early outs because of it

oak gust
#

Neutral Special is crazy

steady onyx
#

Guys can I have some tips with Adam?

willow forge
#

yo whats the deal with harley

#

i keep noticing my attacks go through her like literally my punch would connect through her first but she still is able to get attack on me and hitstun then

#

shes a tough matchup for me

oak gust
desert egret
desert egret
plain basin
desert egret
#

Harley is my secondary lol

plain basin
#

stinky

desert egret
#

She's really fun to play, she feels like an easier bugs bunny

desert egret
#

Honestly IDK what part of adam's kit works against her, I'd say it depends on the Harley player themselves

willow forge
desert egret
#

I generally just do up tilt, down air and Nair, that does a nice like 60% and sets it up so you can get that juicy neutral attack if the opponent gets caught lacking

young moon
willow forge
#

do you use the neutral special and normal ground attack (the electric blast) in ones?

#

i barely use it idk if its worth using it

#

well i use netural special if its an easy shot but other than that its mad risky

desert egret
desert egret
#

Neutral special is almost useless tho, it's more useful against ppl that approach on the ground or launch projectiles to approach like joker, but it's still very situational even in those cases

young moon
#

I... see.

#

Profile shifting is the act of a character's hurtbox shifting around during an animation.

#

Which makes them harder or easier to hit depending on the circumstances.

wind wasp
#

what is best perks for black adam in 2v2

tidal crater
#

Flammable, last stand, pugilist

#

Get your partner to run snowball

wind wasp
#

awesome thanks!!

tidal crater
#

You just don't get a teammate with snowball

wind wasp
#

what about the first perk?

tidal crater
#

The 15% dmg to shocked enemies one

wind wasp
#

interesting

#

thanks!

willow forge
#

ima main adam until samarui jack comes

#

but godamn adam is too fun hope he stays this way'

sage robin
willow forge
#

also yk how when you parry ur enemy is like stunned for a bit, does the type of attack dictate how long that stun is. I just parried a batman but he instantly attacked could be a he threw batarang very close right before he got stunned but usually when i parry they are stunned for a good bit

daring fiber
#

Whats BA's worst matchup?

native frigate
plain basin
#

lol

#

probably TnJ, HQ, BB

#

and WW

#

wdym

#

maybe im just bad with him then

young moon
#

Adam can kill anybody around 50 with lightning ladders, doesn't make it an easy matchup

#

I actually agree with TnJ, but not Harley or Bugs.

peak slate
#

why is black adam unironically good bro

#

😭

#

that neutral hits like a TRUCK

brazen plaza
willow forge
#

i genuinely hate harley quinn

#

can godamn just be inside me and assaulting me with 10000 moves at mach speed

#

how do i space when she is literally glued to me

plain basin
#

I normally get bullied by them and dislike fighting them but like I said I’m probably just bad with black Adam

#

How do you even see where you place with a character

#

Ah right

willow forge
#

how do u check the leaderboard

#

or are refrencing the old beta days where it showed

young moon
#

Could be old beta but some tournaments HAVE been attended. Not enough to have a "top 25" of a single character's players, and nothing offline but..

#

I'm curious about your thoughts on how to perform with the character then. The only thing he seems good for in 1s is lightning ladders, and while I do get it's a 2s game I haven't ran into a character who played well in 2s that was garbage in 1s, in any platform fighter.

#

So if there's tech I'm missing I'd love to find out, he seems super fun

prime osprey
#

Ong if they don't fix these damn xbox servers

young moon
#

The "servers suck" issues sound so few and far between that I'm honestly wondering if it's not just a connection issue

#

Cause it doesn't matter what console when I hear it

#

But I've also literally never had connection problems beyond Day 1

prime osprey
#

This is definetly on the client side

#

Seems worse on xbox

#

Baffling to release the game when console servers are piss poor rn

#

Majority of the demographic right there

prime osprey
#

Yk after a while

#

Really starting to notice this input buffer issue ppl talking about

#

Game is not keeping up with the movements I want

#

It becomes really apparent when I use my neutrals lol, reaction time feels so slow

prime osprey
#

Hope so, feel like I need to press the dpad hard in order to make the game realize which movement input I want

#

I mean all they said was performance issues

#

There are alot of them rn

#

Not the input buffers specifically

sacred tide
tardy rapids
#

i really hope they bring back all the beta controller setting options

#

i always used Rtrigger for jabs but now I ruin my game by doing our laggy ahh side attack everytime

#

also jabs aren't super fluid with dash attacks being added

prime osprey
#

Who TF thought it was a great idea to bind jabs with dash

#

🤦‍♂️

fervent hazel
cobalt mason
#

also is it just me or do jabs have crazy input delay

fervent hazel
cobalt mason
#

how quickly do you have to input it then?

#

because for me just holding in a direction for like half a second puts me into dash attack

jade viper
#

He has a lot of endlag for his moves, making for easy punishes

desert egret
#

Tho samurai jack will probably be fun AF to play ngl

willow forge
#

his kit is complex but it looks fun to play. I prefer high skill ceiling characters cuz they are so satisfying when they are mastered