Arya Stark

[ancient crown]

You don't have to press everything simultaneously, there's some small leeway with pressing attack

[sly canopy]

arya is kinda terrible atm
i just said arya cuz shes easier imo and more fun

[latent marlin]

is someone german? I need to know what a rift kessel is fro that one quest where i have to collect one

[sly canopy]

^

basically dodge attack but sodge diagonally

[ancient crown]

Yup

[sly canopy]

who r ur favorite ppl to face steal??

in terms of the attacks u can get

[ancient crown]

I haven't tried the entire cast yet, but so far it's Jason and bugs

Batman is really cool too

[sly canopy]

batmans air is so difficult for me ToT

n i dont like jason

[ancient crown]

Yeah it is xD

[sly canopy]

but i dont understand his tp

i like harley

[ancient crown]

Harley is pretty solid as well

[sly canopy]

bugz

n black adam

[ancient crown]

I actually hate BAs face

[sly canopy]

rlly?

his ground attack does numbers

[ancient crown]

The attacks doesn't combo well, or at least I haven't found any

It's a good kill option though

[sly canopy]

yeee

[ancient crown]

I prefer faces that has combo potential

[sly canopy]

i find it rlly hard to kill with arya on most maps

[sly canopy]

thats fairr

i think having one use makes comboing w it feel less great

[ancient crown]

Really? I haven't played against people since the game is literally unplayable for me right now

[sly canopy]

oh damn 💀

can di out of up special

[ancient crown]

That was the case in beta as well

[sly canopy]

at like 80+

[ancient crown]

I'm fine with that honestly

[sly canopy]

the knife also feels weaker tho

[ancient crown]

Yeah

All her routes requires face now unfortunately

[sly canopy]

maybe im wrong but i thought it happened later in beta

[sly canopy]

not all faces combo or kill Tu5

[ancient crown]

Then again I managed to combo with her turn attack activation

[ancient crown]

Yeah

[sly canopy]

thats wild tbh

i trie

using it in combos

but its slowww

[ancient crown]

Yeah it's pretty mu dependent

[sly canopy]

killing using the face steal ability is fun tho

[untold spade]

Everything is slow now

[ancient crown]

She feels slow

[untold spade]

Indeed

[sly canopy]

and i swear nothing is better than killing with somebody elses attack

[sly canopy]

she always has

she was one of the slowest in beta too right?

[ancient crown]

Yeah

[ancient crown]

Exactly hehe

[untold spade]

I been killing on the ledge with the face

[ancient crown]

I hate that people can fall out of her dash attack

[untold spade]

I was just about to say that

[sly canopy]

it kills vertically better than up air lmaoo

[ancient crown]

Jab + face steal + dash attack is a good finisher but people just fall out of it

[sly canopy]

her dash is so bad

same w harley

[ancient crown]

Her neutral attack surprisingly has a lot of kb so it's a good kill option as well

[lilac gale]

just a key note for any arya heads the announcer pack for her is out / discounted in the store

[untold spade]

Yea they nerfed tf outta up air

[sly canopy]

thats trueee

that n up attack do a lotnof knockback

[lilac gale]

really? how

doesn't it go for all three hits

[ancient crown]

The grounded neutral

[sly canopy]

sometimes ppl only get hit by 2

[sly canopy]

air neutral feels kinda mid

i could be wrong

but it doesnt work well w juggling

[ancient crown]

Yeah it's mid compared to it's beta counterpart

[sly canopy]

yeahh

[ancient crown]

I want beta gizmo's face back ngl

[sly canopy]

what was beta gizmo?

[ancient crown]

The bow and arrow

[lilac gale]

use as a disjoint

[sly canopy]

oooo

[lilac gale]

the angle is nice for landing after up air if you need to cover space

[sly canopy]

i miss having multiple uses of face steal

[sly canopy]

yeee n it can edge guard but generally feels less useful than the rest of her basic attacks

[ancient crown]

Same and miss having the stun attack as well

Why does Arya's face have it T-T

Beta gizmo face combo's https://youtu.be/QLCzJgYOYpw?si=9wGKnjMs2JryeOEx

[lilac gale]

i disagree on the nair i think it's kinda broken as a disjoint

if you're not fastfalling up air though into your opponents as a side note i think you're missing out a ton

[ancient crown]

True

It's mid compared to beta though

[lilac gale]

probably

i never played her in beta this is all i know lol

making a montage currently of her

[ancient crown]

Ah

Cool

[lilac gale]

i played finn in beta but literally just 3 hrs multiversus playtime LOL

now currently 21 hrs

[ancient crown]

XD

I only picked up Finn near the end

[lilac gale]

interesting

i'm a smasher at heart i just found his stuff relatable to link at the time so felt decent

that up b

[ancient crown]

Arya was my only character until that point

[lilac gale]

i think it worked out

if i played beta arya and then this nerfed version i would probably be salty as hell

but because i only know one that's all i have to work with

[ancient crown]

The only smash I played was on the n64 version and even then it was for a brief moment

[ancient crown]

Nah I don't really feel salty, this Arya has way more combo potential

The only problem is that her combos doesn't feel as smooth

[lilac gale]

you think way more than the other one when the game speed was so zoomy?

i think the game speed helped arya because it made her less able for opponents to react to in beta maybe

after all we are human

this slower speed people can definitely react to her more

[ancient crown]

You can read people better in this version

[sly canopy]

what rlse would arya face have tho Tot

[latent marlin]

is arya strong rn?

[weary rain]

I would say definitely not. The input lag alone makes combos easier to escape

[sly canopy]

i only played arya in beta

[weary rain]

She is for sure worse than she was.

[ancient crown]

No clue

[latent marlin]

but is she still strong rn

[carmine prism]

il would say yes

[ancient crown]

It depends on the player honestly

[carmine prism]

agree

[lilac gale]

i meant beta game speed

beta game speed made arya able to just zoom around

compared to now

[weary rain]

I would say no, personally. As a hardcore Arya main from beta, I’m pretty much taking a break from her until some changes happen.

[ancient crown]

She's a character that punishes mistakes

That's why most Arya's played passively

So this version of the game benefits her a lot

[sly canopy]

i dont think shes strong
i think the ppl who r good w her r just good

[weary rain]

Her knife dash often just doesn’t actually connect you to enemies, her up special basically got its functionality cut in half, and they made one of the most baffling decisions ever in regards to her face steal.

[ancient crown]

Mmm Interesting

[sly canopy]

i like face steal

current face steal morw than old

i just wish it had more uses

[ancient crown]

Agreed some moves though

[sly canopy]

2 or 3 would be fine

[sly canopy]

like gizmo

[weary rain]

I don’t think she (or probably any character) is useless or anything. I just think she feels very different to play than she did. And I was literally derping around with the local beta a day before “launch.” So it’s extra jarring for me haha

[sly canopy]

some old moves wete bettee

but in general i hink current face steal has more room for flexibility

[ancient crown]

Pretty much

[sly canopy]

same 💀

[ancient crown]

I still play beta from time to time

[weary rain]

Also nobody mentions this, but I swear they slightly nerfed the range on her ground down attack. I’m now successfully reading enemy attacks, inputting at the right time to get the dodge, ending up next to them…and WHIFF

[ancient crown]

It depends on how you do it

[sly canopy]

it does feel differenr

[weary rain]

I just wish it had consistency. Having to try to remember every single character’s 2 stolen attacks is kinda crazy. Especially if they keep adding characters forever

[ancient crown]

The range varies depending on how you use it

I like this version better

[sly canopy]

i assumed it was just general hitbox changes

[sly canopy]

wfym?

[ancient crown]

Before she always hit in the opposite direction

[sly canopy]

thats fair ig ToT

[weary rain]

Hm can you elaborate? I did realize you can aim the attack in either direction, regardless of initial direction you’re facing

[sly canopy]

i dont have any issues

[sly canopy]

i didn't

maybe that was myissue

[weary rain]

Yeah I just found that out yesterday. I think it’s new? Don’t recall that being a thing

[ancient crown]

I'm referring to the length of the roll

You can change that

[sly canopy]

i personally have no trouble remembering which attack is which but 🤷‍♀️

[weary rain]

👀 Whaaaa you do go on?

[ancient crown]

She can do down attack in place somewhat

Maybe it's best if I make a clip

[weary rain]

Really? You have the entire cast memorized already? Hard to believe, honestly. And will that be doable when there are 100 characters?

[sly canopy]

the ppl ive used

i remember jason, black adam, bugz, harley, morty, batman, superman,

[weary rain]

I’m just comparing it to Kirby in Smash, where a main is somewhat required to know every neutral special in the game. Still something of a mental load, but at least it’s always the same, usually iconic move per character.

[sly canopy]

u have to remember every move a person has in general tho?

i also dont think its a huge mental load

ur not remembering every move at all times

ur remembering up to 6

[weary rain]

I would call this a lot, in a fighting game, where you’re thinking about how to chain combos together.

[sly canopy]

not all of them chain

u just have to remember that

like w superman

i dont think the sniper punch is chaning

black adam neutral doesnt

bugs' is a dash attack n cn be used as one

[weary rain]

Right, well that’s kinda my point. This is a pretty large, and seemingly unnecessary mental load. Like, why have it like this? Why just pick whichever moves from each character? They aren’t even usually the most recognizable or anything

I just legitimately don’t understand the decision to make it this way.

[sly canopy]

because it gives more flexibility in face steal

[fervent cedar]

Do you guys know if the devs will fix aryas up special?

[sly canopy]

stealing every persons neutral is still a mental load

just as much, no?

[weary rain]

Is it more flexibility, actually? No matter what, you’re still only getting 2 moves per character. It doesn’t change every time. And how good or bad or flexible those moves are is already predetermined.

[fervent cedar]

wait are we complaining about the face grab attacks? dude i love them 😭

you can 70 to death with certain characters

[sly canopy]

yes because the move can be more useful

[fervent cedar]

like jason you can 90 to death him with face grab combo

it’s amazing

[sly canopy]

not every neutral will work with arya or have any utility

[weary rain]

I’m just quite confused as to why they went from “you get neutral attack” to “you get…an attack, not the same for ground and air”

[sly canopy]

they get to decide what moves so they SHOULD combo or have utility more

[fervent cedar]

just gotta practice them? 🤷

[weary rain]

This is an interesting idea at least. But so far, that doesn’t seem to be case. Just seems kinda…random.

[sly canopy]

ur still remembering 2 for every hero and how to combo w them

[fervent cedar]

i just do it once against an opponent to know what the attack will be

and next time i will know so i don’t have to ever do it again

[weary rain]

Sure…just don’t forget or get it mixed up. And make sure to do that for every new character they ever add, too.

[fervent cedar]

it ain’t hard bro 😭

[sly canopy]

almost like u had to do that befote

[weary rain]

Ok

[fervent cedar]

just say you want simple things, since beta we know arya is a complex character

if you want something simple play bugs or shaggy

cause it seems arya ain’t for you

[sly canopy]

the ONLY difference is u have to use face steal to know

[sly canopy]

bugs isnt simple 💀

go play finn

for a simple character

[fervent cedar]

really? i felt like he was simple

go play banana guard 😭

[sly canopy]

he has a lot of setups

that can make him not simple

[fervent cedar]

i played him yesterday and he is a simple character to master imo

[weary rain]

The difference, as I stated above, is knowing one iconic move, that tends to follow a pattern. Vs knowing whichever moves, that will all be totally different from each other.

[fervent cedar]

arya is one of the hardest one if you really want her full potential

[sly canopy]

i could he wrong 🤷‍♀️

[fervent cedar]

plus her up special glitch

[sly canopy]

theyre not al that iconic

ur telling me aryas neutral is iconic?

[carmine prism]

i never played as bugs but i honestly think hes moveset is pretty complex

[weary rain]

I’m telling you it’s a stationary, charged attack. Like most neutral ground attacks.

[sly canopy]

^^ 50+ moves

[sly canopy]

yes

it is

[fervent cedar]

and that’s good there should be characters that are hard to actually master

more complexity is not bad for a character

[sly canopy]

but its still different dor each character

[fervent cedar]

if you don’t wanna learn it just drop the towel

[sly canopy]

aryas neutral has a dosjointed hithox that moves forward

but batmans?

gizmos?

they have projectiles

[carmine prism]

what it is that face grab combo? honestly i cant see ways to face grab be useful

[sly canopy]

face grab gives her more flexibility than most ppl

gives u moves that kill.better than aryas

[fervent cedar]

for jason you can do side attack to face grab to side attack to up special to neutral special

[sly canopy]

or moves that can string aryas abilities

[fervent cedar]

you kill at 90 with that

[weary rain]

Yeah it’s definitely not a “one size fits all thing,” but it does at least mostly hold. And in theory, this is the attack you’re going to see a lot of the time. Especially if we consider new players

[fervent cedar]

and it’s confirm

[sly canopy]

or stuff that is better recovery than her current builds

[sly canopy]

i think tilt is more common

for most

[wispy talon]

is arya at all worth playing rn over like harley?

[sly canopy]

yes shes cool

not if ur tryij to win

[wispy talon]

shes so much slower than in beta

yeah im trying to win lol

[sly canopy]

truuu

[sly canopy]

go play ww then ig

[wispy talon]

nah i want a character like arya but thats playable

[weary rain]

Finn still feels pretty good to me. And I’ve been having fun with Jason

[sly canopy]

arya isplayable

id ur willing to learn

[carmine prism]

but still pretty god, all of character got slowed a bit

[wispy talon]

i know arya lol, been playing since beta but i just dont feel shes good on the release anymore

[sly canopy]

shes not better than harley tho

[weary rain]

Yeah everyone is playable, like I can still get wins with Arya. She just feels so different and awkward from what I’m used to, that I don’t find it too fun.

[sly canopy]

^

[wispy talon]

yeah i win with arya but its just, not the arya i like

[sly canopy]

minus the fun

i thi k shes rlly fun still

[wispy talon]

yeah thats my thoughts

think ill just learn harley

[weary rain]

Who would be the most similar now to beta Arya? Hmm…

Harley is definitely fast and combo-oriented at least. I guess all assassins kinda are. But like with her, you’ve also gotta do some tricky projectile stuff

[fervent cedar]

https://youtu.be/xQRwZw0t7cE?si=1WvaZvktICY3K4t9

[sly canopy]

i thi k harley is most similar

[fervent cedar]

this video teaches at lot of great combos for her

[weary rain]

Heh honestly Banana Guard is almost like a heavier, yet more reliable Arya now…he’s also get the extra pokey range. But with overall more generous hitboxes

[carmine prism]

arya not have most complex moveset but i think she do the basic very well and it turn she goods

[fervent cedar]

https://youtu.be/xQRwZw0t7cE?si=1WvaZvktICY3K4t9

[sly canopy]

rlly?

he didnt feel similar to me

[carmine prism]

let me see

[weary rain]

Oh yeah and the other weird change, damn do I miss her down special being a dodge. It’s an attack now whyyyyy?!!??!

[sly canopy]

she has more potential combos n strings than any other character

[wispy talon]

godddddd free me of arya

[weary rain]

He’s notably slower and kinda floatier, but like a lot of his spear attacks also have that specific pinpoint to them. Reminds me at least a little of Arya

[sly canopy]

oo

that makes sense

[fervent cedar]

her up special into dair looks interesting

haven’t thought about it

i discovered some combos of my own

[sly canopy]

slayyy

[keen umbra]

Bought her and she’s trash

[carmine prism]

good video

[keen umbra]

Don’t get her don’t even install the game

[sly canopy]

👍

the uninstall it n leave

[keen umbra]

?

[carmine prism]

it would be good if knife has more duration, giving more opportunity window

[sly canopy]

💯

[carmine prism]

try play more with her

[sly canopy]

i dont think random ppl attacking should interrupt either

maybe giver her a hurtbox when shes near the knife

[keen umbra]

Can’t probaly wait till they get the game working again

[sly canopy]

but tping to a person on the other side shouldnt get interrupted by the fight in the middle

[carmine prism]

for sure, i want to play but a got disconnect every match

[lilac gale]

100%

[keen umbra]

Games slower and hit box is wild

[weary rain]

Honestly if the knife was just more consistent in general, I’d be fine with the short duration. Just let me actually hit people that it’s stuck in when they don’t dodge haha

[ancient crown]

@weary rain sorry for the wait: https://youtu.be/0KkdufrKoRM

[fervent cedar]

hit boxes aren’t bad

[fervent cedar]

wait what’s the tech

[lilac gale]

different variants of it i presume

[fervent cedar]

oh

[lilac gale]

interesting

[ancient crown]

it's the roll distance

[fervent cedar]

i’ve done so it whoever i’m looking it ends there

not behind her

[weary rain]

Oooh good stuff! Thanks for this!

[ancient crown]

I'm glad I could help

[keen umbra]

Yuh uh

[fervent cedar]

skill issue 🤷

[weary rain]

@ancient crown questions: are you holding right in the example with “+ direction?” So you can go farther by just holding a direction?
And is it a neutral dodge in the third example? Which I guess lets you go not as far?

[sly canopy]

as if u could know
u cant even play

learn how to space tho

if u get on again

[ancient crown]

direction is left/right and it's not possible with neutral dodge only

[sly canopy]

and?

[keen umbra]

Shouldn’t be talking

[sly canopy]

completely irrelevant

to the fact that u cant play

so ur whining

[ancient crown]

It can definitely be used in combos

[keen umbra]

That I can’t play ?

[sly canopy]

whining abt the massive skill issue yea

[keen umbra]

I think you should quiet down for the time being

[sly canopy]

go bother other ppl

[fervent cedar]

you the one who cant play her lol

maybe a skill issue

[sly canopy]

^^^

then ur response is 'b-b-but lesbian '

be trash then get mad when ur called trash

its wild

[weary rain]

I have this person blocked apparently, but this response with no context is just hilarious hahaha

I thought Arya was ace-coded!

[sly canopy]

he said hitboxes r bad

[keen umbra]

True

[keen umbra]

🔥

[sly canopy]

cuz i said he should delete the game if his only contribution to the server is that arya is bad and dont even install the game

[narrow hull]

Let’s keep this a little more respectful in the future, and maybe don’t wish violence upon anyone.

Thanks

[fervent cedar]

wait she got banned? 😭

[shy mist]

Mods do love banning people for doing nothing

[fervent cedar]

i think the other guy deserves the ban 💀

bro said her opinion doesn’t matter because she lesbian

but it is what it is 🤷

[carmine prism]

fr, it would be better

[lilac gale]

lmao i swear this is the only character channel with drama rn 😂 ofc it's the char i main now

[weary rain]

Her changes are just that dramatic…I guess.

[lilac gale]

lmfao

[fervent cedar]

i don’t feel it’s that different from the beta

in a way she is better

without counter her 0 to death combo that was fixed

[empty valve]

ong

i came back to argue my case

think i have a chance?

[empty valve]

literally

[empty valve]

its also the most used character thread

what's even going on

nvm

its just barely under jason

[shy mist]

Are either of arya's signature perks useful

[empty valve]

@empty valve

he said im a lesbian so i shouldnt be talking

[empty valve]

no

woah

they rnt

[empty valve]

and u got banned??

[empty valve]

then IIII got banned

[shy mist]

They seem way too situational vs the standard variant

[empty valve]

yeah

[shy mist]

Playerfirstgames love taking this fun perks away GRAHH

[empty valve]

^^^ u get like 2 or 3 uses out of it

i couldnt even say anything to the mod because i was muted for saying d r i v e s a f e x x

[empty valve]

THEY BUTCHERED THE PERK SYSTEM ONG

[weary rain]

Yeah honestly a lot of the fighters’ have kinda poopy signature perks. Some seem way better than others

[empty valve]

fr

some of the useful ones sjould just be basekit tho

like harleys boxing glove one

should be basic imo

[weary rain]

I do miss the old park system, where each character had a unique leveling track to get them. It felt more deliberate, and also encouraged playing different characters.

Now everyone just has the exact same shopping list, and you buy whichever you want…somehow less satisfying to me.

[empty valve]

u could buy them anyways

and everyone used the same ones

[weary rain]

Could you? I honestly don’t remember, as I never did.

[empty valve]

i more mean that there was a variety

yeah u could w coins

[weary rain]

I think different characters benefited from different perks.

[empty valve]

fs

but in general

i had the triple jump

u were p much throwing wo it

[weary rain]

Yeah I was really partial to the one (or two?) perks that increased your air acceleration, for Arya

[empty valve]

yessss

[narrow hull]

so you avoided your ban? nice.

Ya'll really need to read the rules.

[lilac gale]

looool

how many alts do they have 😭

[narrow hull]

Imagine being mad that someone else didn't get banned, when they did get banned.

[devout dew]

what are the best perks for arya atm?

[shy mist]

The normal perks

Default

[weary rain]

Honestly I run mostly standard perks with her. The signature perks are kinda…meh.

Just extra speed and damage is good for her. It would be nice to have back some of the air movement perks.

Maybe the “create a platform” perk is secretly incredible for her? I’ve never actually tried it.

[lilac gale]

been thinking about this since release

[devout dew]

yeah

did they remove triple jump?

[lilac gale]

for extending her killing off the top combos

[lilac gale]

yes

i think gems have it but not perks

[weary rain]

Yeppers. They removed like half the perks, it feels like?

Or at least, the more exotic ones are mostly gone.

[shy mist]

Sure wish all the good utility perks werent tossed away

Taz trig come back to me

[radiant steppe]

anyone know who sveet is

[lilac gale]

who

[weary rain]

Yeah having more unique and weird perks was fun, I thought. Let people try out some interesting specific builds

I guess that’s also part of why I liked the specific fighter perk tracks; it gave you some ideas on how to play them.

[lilac gale]

ok

[narrow hull]

I'm a Gay Woman, but go off. Thanks.

bye bye

[fair frigate]

What do you all think the best and worst matchups against Arya are?

I am honestly terrified of most characters, I feel like the only way I can win is if they are bad

[lilac gale]

yourself

jk maybe

it kinda feels like wonderwoman and superman are... difficult, but could just be me

[fair frigate]

I have struggled a lot against Finn

[lilac gale]

what aspects

[fervent cedar]

finn is the hardest for me

it feels no matter how hard i dodge he still find a way to attack

and his range is way bigger than aryas

[stone sun]

finn issss rlly hard

i still think ww is hardest

[lilac gale]

i just try to be patient around their usual mashing and safe options

[lilac gale]

yeah

[lilac gale]

i can't really just go in on finn with arya unless i have a clear opening so i play a bit more campy than usual and wait for them to strike first if possible

then punish their slip-ups

ww i have no idea lol kinda the same but what is that shield

we can use the shield bash attack with our mask though but other than that...

[stone sun]

shes super passive now ToT

[weary rain]

I think you wanna rely a lot with spinny side special and down special, to break armor.

[lilac gale]

definitely down special but our side special feels slow even with the di-ability so idk

has to catch them off-guard

[weary rain]

Yeah you have to be super extra precise with it now. Feels like it has reduced speed/max range since beta, possibly.

[sour juniper]

how do you guys like to approach usually? i kinda like nair but im not really sure how to combo off of it

[fervent cedar]

i use side attack

[odd star]

nair to punish roll back seem good, but hard to keep advantage with it.
And side air or ground side to start a string seems good. (side spe also ofc) (new to arya but that what i found)

[stone sun]

i need help TuT

[weary rain]

Opening with knife is always good to trip people up. Similar with running forward into ground down attack

[hard fiber]

u cant combo off of nair anymore

unless its a heavy character at like 10

[sour juniper]

yeah side tilt is great for combos but how am i meant to walk right up to someone like that? it just feels super punishable. is there a trick to it?

[stone sun]

u cn dodge into it

[weary rain]

You can down attack into side attack, depending on positioning and percent

[rain kelp]

Real main issue I’m having with Arya is that there’s not a lot of k.o options. Neutral charge is good, spike isn’t consistent especially against toons with a shielding up attack, aerial combo isn’t consistent. Face steal, stun and the aerial combo use to be an ace for finishing. Hopefully we get a buff to one of those

[pine fable]

She's decent but inconsistent. And some other characters are just broken

[rain kelp]

Like I get a garnet to 120 bounce her all around the map and one good rocket glove from her when I’m at like 85 and I’m outta there

Been running a lot of garnet and ww in 1v1 but arya is still fun for 2s

[pine fable]

Ww is a tough match and banana guard just makes me want to throw my controller

[rain kelp]

Bro I just try to get a face steal and match the spamming charge strike cuz holyyy

[pine fable]

I should do that next time lol

[stone sun]

is arya stark rlly that popular?

like whys the thread so active

ive face 3 aryas max since release

[weary rain]

Probably because we all kinda miss beta Arya haha. That’s me anyway

[stone sun]

that makes sense

but i feel like everyone whos suffering would agree

n there r like 2 or 3 times more messages than even the joker

[weary rain]

For me at least, Arya specifically feels different to play. In a bad way, again just for me. Not just like she got a move removed or changed or something- how she fundamentally feels to move around and hit enemies with feels noticeably different

I suspect that as a fast, combo-based fighter, she’s a bit more impacted by the overall game slowdown than some other, heavier characters.

[undone carbon]

This is exactly how I feel as well

[lilac gale]

@ancient crown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KymzkpKh2y4 just finished uploading the arya montage

[maiden barn]

https://streamable.com/i3tojc some new tech

[long kiln]

how do you not get dash attack lmao

like on demand

dash attack overwrites aryas main combo starter

i can get used to her new structure but this one simple thing is killing so much potential for her

[stone sun]

stop moving for a moment

i get it completely tho

rlly annoyed me too

[long kiln]

anything that doesnt cost precious frames

[stone sun]

inrlly like ur pfp byw

[stone sun]

u might be able to bind side to another button

[long kiln]

like

i have some nice combos

that are made 20x harder to land

ingame

due to dash attack existing

the game did not need this

[stone sun]

i eouldnt mind dash attack

if it wasnt so bad

[long kiln]

i wouldnt mind it if the input wasnt a redundancy with a really important move

doesnt matter as much on other chars

really hurts arya

[stone sun]

yeah ToT

ive gotten better at not using it

but i still do sometimes

[long kiln]

ive resorted to turning away for 1 frame then back but it wastes so much time when whiff punishing

[stone sun]

n its a pain in the butt

[long kiln]

yeah, she still has nice combos, just drastically different routing and the latter half of them are read based now

[stone sun]

basically all ik that u cn do

[long kiln]

its just all hidden behind dodging a lame dash attack

[stone sun]

even the read based ones dont always work

[long kiln]

anyone picking up arya with no prior knowledge is gonna hit the dash attack and assume she cant combo

[long kiln]

yes that is what read means

[stone sun]

when u read properly

[long kiln]

ive yet to have one fail if i read properly

[stone sun]

they can be knocked oit of range regardless of how well u read

on arya at like 80+, up spefial doesnt true combo w uair

[long kiln]

its not meant to anymore

none of the old stuff works

[stone sun]

which is dumb

n it should

[long kiln]

do u air u air wait their airdodge then u special

[stone sun]

imo

[long kiln]

no she has different routing and thats fine, i can live with that

this dash attack tho

something needs to happen

it needs its own input

[stone sun]

if u read it right then u should be rewarded

[long kiln]

dont overlap moves

[long kiln]

you can you just have to do it differently now

[stone sun]

it doesnt true combo

unless u burn a large amount of meter

[long kiln]

it true combos side air now and you can setup backstab with that for kill

her power budget is in different places now

just have to look for it

its still there

just shifted around a lot

[stone sun]

it can be out of range with both side air and up air

[long kiln]

at high % yes

thats always been the case even in beta

[stone sun]

at like 80

[long kiln]

yes

that was always a thing

ever since they took vacuum in beta

[stone sun]

thats not rlly a high %

[long kiln]

she didnt need to ToD ppl

thats prob why shes gutted now

[stone sun]

no

she just needs consistent combos that kill

on more than the largest ppl

reduce hitstun on uair if tod was the issue

but dont make it not work ToT

[long kiln]

she doesnt, she doesnt need combos that kill, that's why everyone hated her.
she needs combos that build kill% from low %, which she has
but its hidden behind dash attack

[untold spade]

FACTS she kills with other characters faces

[long kiln]

yeah, which is one of the coolest parts of her imo, stealing kill moves
rn the only big problem i have is the dash attack thing, which isnt even arya specific, its just holding her back

more minor problems are how so much of her power budget was removed with seemingly no compensation

her best signature is gone and was not replaced, face steal was maybe deservedly nerfed heavily, but the power budget doesnt seem to be shifted anywhere

[untold spade]

Up sturdier was so deadly

[long kiln]

i dont even properly remember the signature that was removed

but i remember the two that are still ingame, and those being irrelevant in comparison

this change goes directly against their proposed design philosophy of removing underused perks while retaining higher use rate ones

which is even more confusing

[untold spade]

The face steal stun seems to be gone too or u just don't know how to do it anymore

[long kiln]

its only if you face steal another arya now

only available in the mirror

[weary rain]

Yeah now face steal just gets whichever 2 moves from each fighter…it’s pretty weird honestly.

[untold spade]

Ok i thought so

[long kiln]

i couldn't tell if it had a rhyme or reason

i thought it was just specials now

but then i think ive gotten one that wasnt a special?

[untold spade]

I can live with that

What I don't like is that u only get one use

[long kiln]

it kind of implies they routed combos for each type of stealable knockback but i also have a hard time believing that

[dark panther]

i miss being able to see the ranks

[weary rain]

Nah it’s like, totally just whichever moves haha. I swear they just rolled a die

[untold spade]

it'll be back

[long kiln]

i miss being able to see the charge meter when ur holding a move

idk why

it was nice

[dark panther]

not that i need a number to tell me im #1

[weary rain]

Yeah hard agree on this. One use of one random move is pretty booty. Though I wonder if it’s trying to balance the fact that you can also get specials now?

[weary rain]

Yeah, this would be neat…but it feels like arbitrary choices to me. Garnet for example feel like terrible moves to steal, but maybe I just need to practice more.

[long kiln]

its cause it combos from jab > facesteal > jab > uspecial > facesteal > x depending on stolen knockback > any combo beyond that is a read

this combo puts them right at kill% for a second stolen face

now have fun trying to get jab > facesteal instead of dash attack to finish out the round

[weary rain]

I actually like the idea of stealing a fighter’s neutral attack, instead of having the stun at all. But like, why not just make it the neutral attack for every fighter? I don’t get the random inconsistency

[long kiln]

did you play beta?

it was like that in beta

it was standardized

[weary rain]

Yeah I did.

And that’s actually what I had thought would be a better suit for her; get rid of the stun, just turn her neutral special into her opponent’s neutral attack for 5 uses

[long kiln]

if anyone has ANY god forsaken clue on tech for avoiding dash attack in favor of jab that doesnt cost me 2-4 frames please enlighten me because its killing me

[weary rain]

This is close to that…but with just kinda whichever picks, for each fighter. Which annoys me more when I think about the notion of there being 50+ fighters eventually.

[long kiln]

those 2 frames open up routing

[long kiln]

im ok with it being the way it is now

tbh

gives her more of a mastery feel

like you really need to know your stuff

i just wanna not get dash attacks when i want to whiff punish a move because i ran forward for 0.14ms too long

make dash attack -> -> input

not -> (hold)

[untold spade]

i thought it was side special and up special

[long kiln]

fun fact you can buffer dash attack out of anything by doing -> ->

facesteal dash attack true combos

[weary rain]

I kinda feel like that was already the case, as you still needed to know all of the neutral attacks. But it was less about remembering which moves you got at all, and just remembering which combos became available

[long kiln]

also why is the flying facesteal bug a thing lmao

[weary rain]

It’s totally different for every fighter, that’s my gripe. You get 1 air move and 1 ground move. Jason for example gives ground neutral attack and air side special.

Someone in here was making a google doc with all of the stolen moves

[weary rain]

Maybe they should make dashing a thing first? Haha

[long kiln]

lmao

never occured to me that there was no walking

til you said that

who needs microspacing

[untold spade]

jason walks lol

[long kiln]

i moreso mean unlike smash theres no walk/run

theres only move

for everyone

dashdance microspacing works well enough though

[untold spade]

yea theres no true dash

[weary rain]

Yeah exactly! I saw the Jason move list video, and saw the dash attack section, and was all, “oh interesting, I guess they added dashing?”

But…NOPE

Bamboozled

[long kiln]

who would win
intricately designed game of thrones platform fighter character
vs
one dash attack input

we dont have to wonder anymore

its really bumming me out lmao

[weary rain]

Arya creeps behind the Night King, dragonglass dagger in hand, ready to stab….
She accidentally sprints at him doing a neat-looking twirl, whiffs completely, holds the pose anyway

GoT Season 9

[long kiln]

accidentally sprints at him, hits him 3 times and knocks him too far away to follow up anything

guess ill die

alternate ending

im just praying someone finds input shenanigans to get normal attack on demand during movement

[untold spade]

can u cancel out of her dash attack

[untold spade]

same as brawlhalla jus gotta let go and attack with like 1 ms delay

[long kiln]

this wastes frames

you lose some whiff punishes

[weary rain]

Yeah I’m hoping they add back the input option for neutral dodge too. Especially for Arya

[long kiln]

do we know how many active frames parry has btw

speaking of

[weary rain]

Honestly I still don’t even fully know how parry works. I guess it’s just a perfectly timed dodge, that does a brief stun?

[long kiln]

yeah but unless its been datamined i dont think the rules have been laid out exactly

sometimes i feel like i have to be frame perfect, other times more lenient

[untold spade]

How u get frame data?

[long kiln]

usually by datamining, ingame tools, or external ingame tools

[real elm]

anyone tryna join my multiversus discord i need more never so we can look for matches

[untold spade]

u on PC

[untold spade]

are we not in one?

[untold spade]

idk because WW parry is different

[weary rain]

Different how?

[rough ridge]

is there any reason why that happens

really throws me off

[weary rain]

Arya in general would benefit from more consistency with her moves, as they currently are

[gaunt kiln]

imma say this now, arya’s insane in 1s

was practicing on my friend who swapped between bugs, tom and jerry, rick, and joker

couldn’t kill me once imo

its funny cuz everyones been telling me she got nerfed into oblivion and she sucks now

but now idk

[weary rain]

Not so much that, but she feels pretty different to play than she used to. The changes to her hitboxes and movement, coupled with the actual nerf on her up special. Just kinda lacks that extra precise flow that she used to have

Lack of better perk options for her doesn't help, but that's a smaller thing I think

[gaunt kiln]

her perks aren’t that bad in my opinion

the betrayal one is good for combos

i knifed my teammate, they weaken the enemy, we both disintegrate that one person

or if my teammate gets wiped, i apply full weaken stacks

which leads to another combo

[gaunt kiln]

if ur talking about her knife, yeah it feels weird kinda

[weary rain]

And then I play 1v1 and feel bad

[weary rain]

Her knife I wish was just more consistent; it's weird to sometimes be placed next to fighters, instead of on top of them

[gaunt kiln]

it was cuz i got banned for 30m cuz my game crashed too many times

half of the time the enemy disconnects halfway through then the other half my game would crash

dunno how to fix that

[gaunt kiln]

it kinda locks onto people in a way

like i could intentionally be trying to miss and it’ll lock onto the enemy

[weary rain]

Yeah it kinda does...kinda doesn't haha. I would like if it put at the same spot, every time. Consistency

[gaunt kiln]

most certainly a higher skill ceiling character than finn, i’ll say

on the topic of assasins, what other ones are worth using?

other than arya

[weary rain]

Oh for sure, though I always expected something like that with Arya. She's meant to be hyper precise, I think. She was my super hardcore main in beta. If she gets a couple changes, no doubt I'll hop right back on that train

[weary rain]

I tried a bunch of Batman today, and he still feels pretty good to me. Several of his moves got nerfed a bit since beta, but they also made his cooldowns more forgiving, and somehow gave him even MORE tools

[gaunt kiln]

ah i see, btw what’s the best way to get that fighter currency? sitting at 1.45k rn

[weary rain]

Honestly no idea, that's all pretty obfuscated now. I know at least that every fighter level up track has some perk and fighter currency in it, with Gleamium at the end

[gaunt kiln]

ah ok

[sour juniper]

Yeah Arya is way better in 2s imo, her ladder combo is insane with anyone to support her (Harley, Bugs, Batman, Black Adam, etc)

But (and back to consistency) her old upspecial upair doesn’t really work anymore

[weary rain]

Yeah well regrettably her up special doesn't do the whole "zoom you and your target upwards" thing anymore

[dry relic]

down air is a solid option

at mid - high damage

[weary rain]

Also easily combos into up air attack at low-mid

[tulip moat]

The map is moving and there's zap thingys that can just kill you

It's just really aids

[tulip moat]

In 2s she dies so quick though

[worn pulsar]

is jab -> up special true rn?

[sour juniper]

yes

[worn pulsar]

ty

[untold spade]

Her moves are weight based it seems especially up special the mage characters almost always go out of range for a followup

[untold spade]

I wouldn't say nerfed but changed.. you can't play her the same way we did in the beta

[untold spade]

Jab steal up special

[worn pulsar]

i had an arya on ladder trying to use the platform perk and i think her goal was to jab upspecjal my ahh

[stiff olive]

I want to present you guys a world where Arya's attacks don't rely on luck in order to contact, a world with consistent combos! Yes, thats right: Jason's Hitbox!
https://youtu.be/4Ms6qrMBkZs

[stiff olive]

oh, maybe that was me? Thats literally what i am doing in the video haha

only really works on the largest hitboxes

[worn pulsar]

what’s your in game name?

[stiff olive]

Veecks

[worn pulsar]

lmfao nah it wasn’t you

[gaunt kiln]

hru spawning platforms

[worn pulsar]

it’s a perk

[stiff olive]

its a perk, i explain the combo in the description

[stiff olive]

Oh i see, was the same combo tho?

[worn pulsar]

they never hit me with it i’ll check out your vid tho

[stiff olive]

Oh i see

[strong gale]

arya neeeds some buffs

[stiff olive]

agreed, general consistency would be great, maybe longer attack range

[worn pulsar]

is it true arya always get a sair off of up b

[gaunt kiln]

ah, interesting

[storm thistle]

idk, but for sure not on lighter characters

[hard fiber]

sometimes on light characters up and sair both can’t hit

cause they’re just so far away

[storm thistle]

Yeah, gotta have facesteal ready for those

[near rapids]

Is this where the nerds are

Or am I lost again

[storm thistle]

I'm not a nerd, nerd

You're talking to a sigma chad male omega 3 fish oil

[near rapids]

🤨 ok

Shiii on skibidi?

[storm thistle]

Never heard of it. But thx to you, watching episode 73 part 2 now

Wtf is this

[near rapids]

Well then get off

Quick

There's hypnosis spells in there

[storm thistle]

wha?

Omg look at that purple sword

so cool

[near rapids]

NOOOOO

Don't get into it

[storm thistle]

Whos this? where am I

[near rapids]

Damn

Too late

[untold spade]

No buffs just consistency

[untold spade]

Who sent you?

[near rapids]

Jeo bidine

[vernal schooner]

Umm yall are lookin kinda crazy over here for yall thinking arya bad, shift to her new playstyle watch some clips and tutorials cause she lookin CRAZY rn

[untold spade]

Yes can't live in the beta

[near rapids]

Joker hard counters

Okay bye

[visual wharf]

Spitting facts

[haughty knot]

started spamming banana guard instead of arya and

jesus christ

lmaoits night and day

i cant remember the last time in 2v2 where a team with a single arya won

they killed her hard they need to fix this character asap

[torn parrot]

they killed her previous way of play

[haughty knot]

she has pretty much nothing now lol

her best move is dash attack which

is a different way of playing but

[torn parrot]

combo into face steal? dash attack is indeed op

[haughty knot]

its so crap in comarison

[haughty knot]

its not op its like

she isnt a trashbag if you do that

but god its so lame lol

[torn parrot]

now in 2s I don't think she's that good let's get that out of the way

[haughty knot]

yeah im a 2s spammer

[torn parrot]

2s is the real game mode admittedly

she does need some more utility in 2s, cuz her gameplan is easily interfered by the teammate

[hard fiber]

which ones did u watch?

[elder sundial]

She's very good.

[visual wharf]

Arya is good, she just struggles in some match ups

And people who complain she can't combo need to learn how you read DI

[elder sundial]

I was gonna send some here but it seems you cant send videos to this channel

she combos hard

and has good confirms

[visual wharf]

Exactly

She still has everything, you just gotta play it differently

[gaunt kiln]

can confirm

she's rlly strong rn

[visual wharf]

She's my go to combo character until Ruby is added

[gaunt kiln]

ruby?

from wha?

[visual wharf]

Rwby

I'm just hoping that's all, it probably won't happen

I'm optimistic

[hard fiber]

can you send in dms please

i need combos 👀

[elder sundial]

Sure

[elder sundial]

Sent you some.

[digital coral]

i would be very freaking excited if she did come out

i would one trick her

[hard fiber]

ty

yo u sent a lot

tyvm

[elder sundial]

🙏🏻

[visual wharf]

Her Smeblance would make her so fast combos would be fun af

[digital coral]

could u send them to me as well? id like to see what stuff i should do later when i begin playing her

[elder sundial]

Yea no problem

[slow rivet]

I'm so glad most people think Arya is bad, she'll go under the radar while your fav character gets nerfed 😎

[fervent cedar]

officially gave up with arya until her up special is fixed 🫡

[sharp sundial]

Is Arya strong rn? Played her in beta and she kept getting nerfed over time, then I stopped playing. Thinking about focusing on Arya and having Jason, Harley, or Bugs as my other main.

[visual wharf]

Arya is a solid character, worth picking up and learning, especially her face steal

[untold spade]

Jake air special doesn't kill up

[untold spade]

She's strong but in a different way from the beta

[old eagle]

she need more skins no reason brand new characters have more then her

[long kiln]

anyone have the arya server invite

[hard fiber]

arya server?

[visual wharf]

There are discord servers for character specifically, they're great for finding actual advice from people instead of babies crying that Arya can't combo and saying she's bad

[long kiln]

yeah what that person said

[hard fiber]

yooo

lemme get an invite

[visual wharf]

I'm not in it actually, I left when the game went quiet, I'll see if I can find an old buddy and get the invite from her

[hard fiber]

aight ty

[visual wharf]

Check your Dms

[long kiln]

i still need an inv D:

[visual wharf]

Sorry I was waiting top 8 coinbox, it's actually peak rn

[digital coral]

ok so like

is airwalker on arya good??

[hoary plank]

This mf is playing the most vile choice of characters I've ever seen dawg and Arya is just such a misfit 😭

But yeah probably not a terrible choice

I wouldn't suggest airwalker on really anyone though since parry can be ridiculously useful

[digital coral]

ww and harley are hot 😭

[mellow ermine]

I updated my spreadsheet with links to a video I made of all the face steals, no sound though, in case anyone needs that. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/148pmVclSOacKrfsLwb1L6INUT9PcswHQ1l0iX0nc1Yo/edit?usp=sharing

[stiff olive]

i want to punish when my enemies whiff but my dagger is too short

[hollow ocean]

😐

Really just got side special spammed by an Arya

Feels bad

But damn that move is quick

[hard fiber]

thats the sair p sure

ucant spam side special

[latent marlin]

should i get arya or harley next?

[digital coral]

ok my verdict after playing arya for the first time for a while, she feels somewhat fine

i wasnt fishing for up b combos or face steals so perhaps i was playing sub-optimally

but spacing out with sair and whiff punishing with dash attack felt pretty alright

i had some up b drops but once i started to hold in after hitting up b the up air felt more consistent

killing wasnt super difficult

once i actually implement combos i think she'll feel pretty good

[glossy moss]

Just started olaying her, Whats an easy combo to learn??

[glossy moss]

Harley meta but prob gonna get hard nerfed,The juggling on arya is crazy

[visual wharf]

Do Jab, neutral special, Jab into whatever you want

Getting someone's face is a core part of her kit so learn routes that link into face steal

[glossy moss]

Tf is jab

side nuetral?

[untold spade]

Yes

Anybody else glitching against garnet

[visual wharf]

Yeah sorry

[pallid storm]

arya is so op rn

[fervent cedar]

lmao she is not bro

so many things about arya are trash atm

[visual wharf]

Is it just me or is Wonder Women like a balls match up for Arya now

Her down special cleanses dagger, she hits like a truck and her wip has no cool down anymore

[fervent cedar]

ww is broken

[visual wharf]

No one can be broken if half the cast is viable

She's just simply really good, broken against Arya for sure though

Dagger is pretty much useless in this matchup unless you can land it in the small window it comes back before WW's armor does

But we do have a armor break with down special so that's something

[fervent cedar]

nah bro

she is broken

one of her combos is 40

like how is that even fair

[digital coral]

she can do 50 damage combos actually

[fervent cedar]

better

[digital coral]

but they require slightly harder inputs

[fervent cedar]

arya can maybe do a 20-30 combo

depending if her up special decides to work

50/50

[digital coral]

question

is dodging into up air after up b a way to ensure more consistency?

[west vigil]

Best perks?

[queen mirage]

https://x.com/formermx/status/1796945489515929782

[stiff olive]

do we have a arya discord?

[rotund silo]

check dms

[fervent cedar]

can you send me the invite too pls

[manic eagle]

im about to buy arya, did they ruin her in the release or is she still good?

[rotund silo]

sure

check dms

[hard fiber]

p sure it doesnt work

most of the time

jump into dair works if they dont di

[autumn latch]

what perks should i use for 1v1s on arya?

[agile oxide]

I've been running snowball Effect, airwalker and pugilist although you'll probably want to check out airwalked combos before you use it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051214142930948107/1246574988165910651/18fd5afceee6-master_playlist.mov?ex=665ce2ed&is=665b916d&hm=45b763ab7c70654651526db2b6014e89c694eb0a5563c9a2436eac555ff49782&

oop can't post a video here

[digital coral]

what do u even use airwalker on arya for

like what options does she gain that benefit her? gc up tilt?

[agile oxide]

you can kill really early with the combos

[digital coral]

send me the airwalker vid in dms

holy crap shes broken

nvm no more arya downplay

[hoary plank]

Ong? On fr? You telling me your 3 mains are all busted? Wild! Nutty! Insane! Wacky!

[digital coral]

lol

[hoary plank]

Blawg got scared and changed his name 😭

[fossil crest]

can i also get that? 🙏🏿

[rotund silo]

yeah check dms

[near oak]

does anyone have consistent combos? is there even any such thing with what they did to arya? 😭

i try comboing with face stealer but it knocks some people back just enough so i cant follow up with a jab

[digital coral]

you have to dodge roll to get the combo

[glossy moss]

still rlly good imo

[agile oxide]

Kouto who I believe the gravity cancel ladder combo originated from has her in his top 5

he hit rank 1 in the first beta and plays her himself so I'd trust his judgement

[digital coral]

Does the gc combo depend on where you hit the up b?

Cuz in practice sometimes they end up on the opposite side

And how do i reliably react to that

[manic eagle]

best perks for arya?

[agile oxide]

it does depend on where you hit it

like if you go into training mode utilt, uspecial, gc ftilt

they should be too high to hit

in situations like that where you don't know if it will hit you can up dodge neutral special

and it sorta levitates you up to true combo

otherwise left/right is mostly just intuition

or you can try certain starters that put you into a better position

[digital coral]

Doesn't di out just kinda kill the 0td

[agile oxide]

sometimes yeah

but if you hit it with a good position u can only di up out of it

and still sometimes that doesn't work

[digital coral]

Also pls send the discord link to me as well

[agile oxide]

I'd recommend testing a lot on your own I'm not the most educated when it comes to platform fighters

[digital coral]

I shall do so yes ty

I need Waterdancer Arya first

[agile oxide]

same ..

[digital coral]

Bro i had the money but i bought another skin

And then it dropped immediately after.

[agile oxide]

unsure how I feel about spending money on this game yet

but I have the free battlepass from the beta so if I get enough currency to make it like a £5 purchase

I'll consider it

[digital coral]

https://x.com/Rinn__________/status/1795929596040212863

Is this a reliable combo as well??

Nair into ftilt feels so finicky

[agile oxide]

oh I was meaning to test this thank u for reminding me lol

[digital coral]

I think once again it's di dependent

[agile oxide]

yeah it seems to be a bit finnicky

[rotund silo]

sure check dms

[manic eagle]

How'd you get that ringout?, looks awesome

[digital coral]

It's from the beta and it's also not me

[manic eagle]

oh

well thanks

[digital coral]

I found that clip when looking at an airwalker clip

[half hound]

Quick question, how essential is face stealing to Arya’s general gameplan?

[stiff olive]

id not say its essential but it is very very good for general combos, it has a good stun window giving enough time to follow you openent with more attacks

also, since arya lacks from strong moves it can also be useful for finishing enemies

[digital coral]

Is instant air dash useful for Arya

[tulip moat]

Absolutely not

[tulip moat]

Honestly, her upspecial is pretty consistent
It's just based on positioning and the opponents DI
You just have to see where they're going
If they're up do upair and if they're to the side do side air or jump neutral

[tulip moat]

I've done it before

[storm quarry]

What are da best perks

[stiff olive]

Nah bro, you tripping. I agree that the final position makes sense because of these variables. But it's exactly that which makes the up special inconsistent, most other character can just attack whatever direction they think you are because they have madness range compared to arya. Its not humanly possible to predict every single input your opponent is pressing everytime you do an up special, so you will miss a LOT, and later on if the opponent knows how this works you will be dommed.

[tulip moat]

Tbh I can just react
It's not much about predicting and more about looking where they're going

[storm quarry]

What are the best perks for her?

[agile oxide]

snowball effect, airwalker and pugilist but test the airwalker combos first

up special neutral dodge forward tilt is the main one

and loops into itself

[storm quarry]

Ok

[ashen bramble]

any Arya specific glitches? I dont play her so just curious

[storm quarry]

I don’t think so

[agile oxide]

up dodge neutral special sends you really high but that's about it

and it's not that crazy

[agile oxide]

is it ok if I get an inv too?

[past quail]

lemme get that too please 😩

[rough ridge]

i think they should remove airwalk

ive just been seeing some crazy true combos from many characters using this

[rotund silo]

sure check dms

[rotund silo]

yeah check dms

[wispy talon]

ik the answer i might get here might be biased, but should i main arya or black adam if i primarily play ones

i like characters with high skill ceiling its more rewarding to master but idk which ones harder to play

[rotund silo]

main the one who's more fun for you to play

if u can't decide u can also just play both

[stiff olive]

you guys play keyboard or controller? I am having a hard time deciding between the controller freedom of movement(with the light attacks from right stick) and the agility keyboard agility

[storm quarry]

I Play Keyboard and mouse

Idk how ppl jus play keyboard

[rough ridge]

ive been using controller

played both but controller feels more natural in this game

[manic eagle]

is there an arya discord?

[manic eagle]

controller, feels better

[wispy talon]

play keyboard only

[digital coral]

i play keyboard

[digital coral]

i dont know how you play kbm for a fighting game

[tender spoke]

That fact that Arya can Down Tilt forward instead of only backstabbing no is great

unless that was a feature before

[storm quarry]

It way easier than just a keyboard

[fierce granite]

okaty so this is not just a me issue

it bugs out often

[fleet igloo]

guys tell me pls , is Arya weak or I'm just too bad at her?))))

[digital coral]

shes fine, but certain characters are a lot stronger and easier to prevail with

[tender spoke]

The moves you get from Face Stealing is pretty weird

Its not linear you kinda have to learn all the moves you get from characters because some give Side Special, Some Down Special, etc

[fierce granite]

yeah i dont understand that

its different per char?

[digital coral]

yea its wack, and since u dont have access to them in training u have to find out through game experience

[digital coral]

yup

there are 2 set moves each characters get

1 in the air, 1 on the ground

what moves she steals is completely character dependent

[stiff olive]

Do we have any combo that allow to place the teleport knife mid combo like in the beta?

[mellow ermine]

Here is a list of the moves we steal, along with a video to go with it, for anyone who doesn't want to go into the lab themselves. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/148pmVclSOacKrfsLwb1L6INUT9PcswHQ1l0iX0nc1Yo/edit?usp=sharing

[wispy talon]

oh nah i just started playing arya

how much do i have to learn

i dont mind but where should i start

[fierce granite]

Just play Harley

Same char but better

[rough ridge]

https://streamable.com/qh98v2 💔

[digital coral]

well...

[digital coral]

first watch this video, then practice airwalker confirms (ftilt up b gc ftilt up b...)

[near oak]

what are ftilt and gc

[digital coral]

side attack and airwalk which makes a platform midair that allows you to input grounded attacks

ftilt is a smash term, gc is a brawlhalla term

[near oak]

ohh ive seen the combo before