game-feedback

[lilac seal]

i need help with the knockback influence it isnt working

[stiff sun]

So my only problem right now is that they took so many things that were free in the testings, but now u actually have to pay money for it. Shaggy ripping his shirt off? Need 5 bucks for a taunt. A TAUNT.

[olive lion]

MY CHARACTER DECIDES TO TELEPORT RANDOMLY

[lost yarrow]

kb and mouse and controller doesnt work ingame

[olive lion]

cannot change kb and mouse keybinds

[maiden estuary]

Didnt someone tell you in #game-support that its not working for anybody?

[lilac seal]

i just saw it

[maiden estuary]

Ok to be fair the betas were entirely supposed to be for testing. Expecting this game to not have any in-game purchases and also be a free game isnt good

Do i miss shaggy's shirt rip? Yes, but that just means i'll support the devs by purchasing it (eventually)

Although the argument could be made that some things could be unlocked with money differently like taunts should totally be a pass thing if thats what you meant

[stiff sun]

i was expecting in game purchases. I just didnt think almost everything I had would be on there too. Like, I will buy stuff obviously(when I can cause i cant atm for some reason).

[maiden estuary]

I'd save buyin stuff for when the game drops officially so avoid errors

I know a lot of people were having account sync issues by buying the alt versions of the game

[stiff sun]

Yeah, cause i cant even buy gleamium on its own lol

[rain turtle]

Anyone else feel like reindog sucks

[steep juniper]

yea, i got the deluxe founder thing and couldnt play until like 3:30

[steep juniper]

also yes, reindog sucks.

[maiden estuary]

sadly, reindog is PURELY a 2v2 character it feels like

[eternal moon]

Nerf tazs dogfight

[steep juniper]

nerf tazs tornado

[eternal moon]

Pls nerf taz

[minor ledge]

Nerf taz tornado. The rest of his kit is useless because of it. Buff the rest of his kit but nerf the tornado. The tornado is unbalanced

[zealous bolt]

nerf taz

[lethal onyx]

has anyone beat the wonder women advance tutorial?? its impossible

[steep juniper]

which one?

[lethal onyx]

the knockback one

[steep juniper]

lemme check it out and ill lyk 👍

[lusty steppe]

yea but i'm like a brawlhalla player, and i'm used to have jump+aim up and aim up, ya know

[rapid mango]

there needs to be an option to have taunts on the left analogue stick if you rebind movements to the dpad

[limpid agate]

a sugestion would be to make when taz uses tornado that it has a animation instead of jsut a png

i assume it would be fixed upon final release tho

[steep juniper]

does seem that the one where you need to hold down and left isnt possible to do, possibly bugged or maybe they just wanted to troll 🤷‍♂️

[lethal onyx]

hmmmmm hopefully they fix it

[steep juniper]

yea, mad annoying 👍

[solar citrus]

Man is anyone else turned off by the prices of the variant costumes and what not? Only issue I have so far, hopefully they'll look at it.

[steep juniper]

hold on what? why were you turned on in the first place??

[uncut dagger]

add simple color palette skins for each character when you max out their progression road. (An example would be to change the front color of batman’s cape to a slight shade of purple whilst giving him purple gloves as a reference to his first ever comic-book appearance)

Another thing id like to adress is to perhaps adding a bonus-side for the pass that are accessible to both free and premium players. Aswell as every reward in the bonus side being obtained free or not.)

And lastly it would be great if we had clans. Clan wars. Clan quests for some gold to unlock more characters or cosmetics limited to clans

[chilly seal]

Nerf taz

[minor ledge]

Glamenow coins or whatever their calls should definitely be in the battle pass

[solar citrus]

I don't mind spending money on free to play when it's fun but 20 dollar skins... not good.

[steep juniper]

100%, at least make it so we get our gleamcoins back from buying it.

[eternal moon]

Everyone is saying nerf taz lol

[dire canyon]

im going to uninstall the game dosent launch on steam and its not my pc will try back again when this games 100% with no bugs

[chilly seal]

Cause we need him nerfed bro 😭

[final orbit]

nah fr

[uncut dagger]

Uhhhh buff batman? Idk

[eternal moon]

I haven’t played I’m going to once it finish downloading

[stray heath]

The skins are like 5 dollars

Shhh dont spoil for people

[uncut dagger]

I cant wait til joker gets released lmao

[zealous bolt]

lmao

[uncut dagger]

In like 10 years

[uncut dagger]

Seperate skins outside of the battlepass costs around 1.500 gleamcoins. Thats like quadruple the price of the bp

[minor ledge]

^^^
This will probably be the reason I do or don’t buy the pass

[uncut dagger]

How about 50% of the gleamcoins you can earn back in the premium side whilst free players can earn the other half

Meaning free players can get like 1 pass every 2 bps whilst a premium player is always guaranteed to get one per season

I dont even want to spend money in this game lmao

[brisk haven]

I want to play the game online :(, please fix so me not sad

[uncut dagger]

Steam?

[solar citrus]

No, 1800 gleamium is like 18 dollars give or take

[uncut dagger]

Exactly

[uncut dagger]

Which then brings up my idea

[solar citrus]

I'm sure they'll get it together. They always start high. People just need to complain.

[tranquil lintel]

This has probably been mentioned, but when cancelling auto party the button to toast a player slightly peeks out from under the tab, and can make you accidentally toast if you don’t want to on console if you press it too fast

[left pagoda]

Nerf Taz

[lyric pawn]

Don't know if this got mentioned but , it's pretty annoying to be forced to put a bot when you wanna do free for all in private with 2 friends

[chrome ridge]

NERF TAZ BRO

[grim barn]

NERD TAX

[grim barn]

NERF TAZZ

[chrome ridge]

add a cooldown on his tornado thing its so op

[timid plaza]

Add that we can play with more than 4 ppl

[lyric pawn]

Agree on that one

[maiden estuary]

or 3 people and no bots

[chilly seal]

Buff Reindog Nerf taz

[chilly seal]

^^^^

[deep crystal]

theres no way to change the button mappings for pc for ps5 or ps4 controller players

[devout void]

Decrease the exp requirement scaling on the battle pass. It's a bit absurd that on rank 5 it will take literally all of your daily missions to rank up once, especially when match to match pass exp is horrendously low

How bad is it gonna be when it's 30 or 50 ranks instead of 15

[pine ridge]

Suggestion: allow us to be able to set controls for more than just player 1, everyone i play with prefers “legacy” control type and you can only use it if on player 1 and everyone else is stuck with defaults

[grand trail]

Suggestion mac support I have been waiting for the game for 2 months and I found out I can’t play

[pulsar hamlet]

Still can't get on the game on Xbox apparently loses connection but am hard wired to console

[amber wolf]

im having the same problem

[dire grail]

NERF TAZ, PLEASE

[pulsar hamlet]

@amber wolf plz tag me and I'll do same when you get thru so I'll know it's fixed or vice versa

[amber wolf]

@pulsar hamlet will do, i have submitted a ticket so i guess im just going to have to wait

[pulsar hamlet]

Thanks @amber wolf

[modern rock]

No

[fossil nexus]

Anyone else getting disconnected over and over again?

[misty leaf]

when i log in it says account has a link name

pls help

[knotty path]

can you guys add a 3v3/4v4 mode

[sullen comet]

when battle passes go back to regular size it should be more expensive but refund itself like similar free to play games.

[vocal quest]

Taz tornado last too long

[crystal stream]

Taz tornado its too long and too strong

[gray spoke]

I feel as though Velmas car shouldn't be able to literally fly and follow you anywhere you go. it should follow you but stay on the ground

[sullen comet]

this would make it useless.

you can just stall in the air or at ledge with ease especially with chars like iron giant

[devout void]

To help keep the game roster from stagnating too much across most of the player base, i recommend a unique system to expand player rosters and to get them to try new characters they dont main

Every month a small selection of characters are rotated in and out. for new players they automatically get this rotation for free and keep them (so for example we keep shaggy, taz, and jake), and for the next rotation we only temporarily keep those characters with a blue [Rotation] marker like experimental placed onto them

that being said, every rotation, already present players are allowed to pick one character out of that months rotation to keep for free, if they level them up to 15 before the next rotation. This keeps players coming back and makes pre-existing player play more characters instead of being able to pick from the meager initial roster and only sticking with that one character, by forcing them to try new characters and play them to keep them.

of course if you dont want to wait for the rotation you can just buy them with gold or gleamium

[wide jay]

I wish ppl would stop crying for nerfs day 1, dude just play the game and learn to adapt

[gray spoke]

the rest of her kit is good enough to have that kind of nerf, i was spamming jump after the car caught me in the air but it didn't let me out and just straight to the bottom and i was out, or at least change the amount of jumps needed to get out.

[sullen comet]

good suggestion but with they should wait to implement this once the roster is bigger

[devout void]

taz was a problem in the tests too, it is a very poignant issue even among us testers who were here from the begining

[outer prism]

true

[sullen comet]

move is hard to obtain it should work

I do believe that everyone should spend more time playing and getting better before suggestioning nerfs or buffs

annoying does not equal broken

[wide jay]

Ok and? Literally still early days. Players learn to adapt over time and then maybe if it's still a problem, sure call for nerfs.

[verbal dagger]

I cant launch the game cause it says im missing dll files, tired reinstalling, didnt fix, tried to manually find the dlls online, and i got another error

[sullen comet]

#game-support

[verbal dagger]

no ones helping me there

[devout void]

nah the game already has monthly rotation, this is just allowing people to actually get more characters they want, and getting players to come back.
not to mention its 1 free character a month, to get all the characters you'd have to level up each character in that rotation assuming zero doubles of ones you already have over a year to get every character in the game.

so it both keeps players trying all the characters, playing the game, and increases variety. its a win win, and it doesnt hurt profits too much since they still have to wait to get the characters they want, so people who really want a specific player may still have to buy it.

Keeping players regularly interested over a year with a mechanic that benifits the game, profits, and players? its a great idea

[sullen comet]

the game has rotation? who is the character right now

[left hornet]

Game is fun, but still has issues.
The biggest issues for me are THE TAZMANIAN DEVIL
and the fact that spikes are WAY too strong
You die at 40% from a spike offstage, and spikes are on stage kill options.
Zoning options in this game as as annoying as in all games, but the perks help alleviate that, so thats very nice

[oak talon]

No its a suggestion

[sullen comet]

read the first sentence

[devout void]

Harley Quinn, Shaggy, Jake the Dog, and Taz, open beta release rotation will be superman, garnet, finn, and reindog

[sullen comet]

what are you serious that sucks

[devout void]

its not clear on whether we get to keep any of the characters after the rotation, but i'd assume not, which is why id love for this system to be added, it be great for the game itself

[sullen comet]

shaggy and Jake should def stay base

[sinful pasture]

The boundaries need to be reworked. I've had 2 games in a row where a enemy was out of sight, as in they were in the smoke and no longer visible, then come back. First batman in the smoke on the top of the screen, then a shaggy in the bottom smoke of the map. It's kinda ridiculous that once you hit the smoke you don't auto die

[eternal moon]

Why is ps4 60 fps and Xbox not?

[devout void]

i think shaggy is gonna stay the standard character since he's the tutorial character too.

its why i want this system, it creates variety and prevents everyone from playing a single character

[eternal moon]

Is there a way to stop people from forming a party with me? It seems like I don’t have an option to accept or decline.

[sullen comet]

shaggy should definetly stay base with ww

[robust flax]

add right stick bind options for PC, would really useful for keyboard players

[eternal moon]

Taz needs a nerf

[dire grail]

taz need a massive cooldown on his attack

[rocky ember]

Taz tornado needs to be reworked, absolutely broken

[dire grail]

just need a cooldown

[viral lynx]

The knock-back influence tutorial could stand to have an animated demonstration depicting a controller doing the input, for the written directions don’t properly explain how to complete the second part of the tutorial. Also, for all that is holy, give Taz tornado less priority; everything else can stay, but the fact it beats out everything is the breaking point for the move’s balance.

[crimson cliff]

Turn off "auto party with teammate" in the settings under Online

[hardy solstice]

why does taz tornado kill iron giant at 100 mid stage

[celest holly]

nah I don't think that they will add it because it would be so complicated like think about it ''8 players'' in a little game.

2v2 is fine I guess

[rocky ember]

Idk, i tried to use another side attacks from other characters, for example, wonder woman, who is a Tank, and even she cannot do anything against it, not even charged side attacks win against the tornado, at least a chance of colide with another attacks, idk, i think is too much.

[viral lynx]

Tornado is kinda just overloaded

The rest of his kit (excluding dustcloud) doesn’t even remotely match the power budgeting tornado has. Why can he even jump cancel it?

Not on hit mind you, just mid tornado, so he can bait you out for trying to whiff punish the Tornado
???

[lusty steppe]

Taz's ssig really needs to be nerfed

[hidden parcel]

the amount of battle pass xp you get for each match really needs to be more, I don’t even want to think of how much grinding an actual full battle pass would take in this game

[lusty steppe]

fr

[crimson cliff]

I wanna do a full write up but the economy for gold, Pass XP and especially Gleamium is completely off the rails.

I'm not sure if it's WB, Player First or a combination of the two but this is a bad look

[limber lily]

Custom games need to give gold/battle pass xp. There's no reason not to considering you can get rewards from fighting bots, and it discourages playing with friends as you don't get rewards for doing so.

[warped kraken]

Hi i have a question multiversus its not free?

[crimson cliff]

it is, through twitch drops or grandfathered in access, otherwise it'll be available next week on the 26th

[warped kraken]

but went it finish the beta we need to pay to play?

[crimson cliff]

No, it will be free forever

[warped kraken]

and wath is this founders pack

[ember knot]

Please, add a way to disable the premium nameplate. I don't like my name glowing, I just wanted to support the game.

[deft widget]

FR

[eternal moon]

Thank you! I couldn’t find the setting

[modern rock]

Nerf bots they tbag me

[paper junco]

Bots got too smart

[modern rock]

I have the video to 💀

[tranquil lintel]

Does owning the premium battlepass give any extra xp challenges or boosts? or is it just rewards?

[sullen comet]

just the rewards

[devout void]

can the "Seasonal Challenges" be replaced with "Weekly Challenges", or be given more of them over a season.
They are easy to complete in a day and considering its nearly a month long season, its a pretty basic, they need to either be regularly replaced or be given way more to last over a month span.

no this isnt asking to increase the amount we have to do per challenge so it takes longer, i can already see how horrible that is with the battle pass and the characters

Id be much more content with the easyness and reward amount if we had to do them regularly instead of one and done for nearly a month

[narrow timber]

gonna sound like a fgc zoomer for a second, but i would think getting frame data and being able to see the hitboxes in training would help a lot on characters oh and music you can apply on other stages, because as much as i love the orchestral remixes of our favorite childhood shows, i would like some variety. plus it would make for some good collabs like tee lopez on a adventure time remix, maybe some artists that never got to see the big spotlight could do something or even a toby fox pack. i would pay some good money for that

[grave sedge]

Yo bois GOKU IS IN THE GAME https://youtu.be/ombkoVsEWf8

[eternal moon]

NERF SUPERMAN

[grave sedge]

Nerf finn

[visual nova]

thnx for having no asia servers

[devout void]

i do think the grievous attempts to get people to spend money should be dialed back, if not the low gold rate then the single digit pass exp,
but either way something has to give or you guys are the ones that are gonna be crushed by this, not the consumer.

[native dirge]

Hey, so I'm having this issue where I can't play online, I'll cue up, join, pick perks, load and then bam, back to lobby with a error message, I've tried everything, for the last 5 hours I've deleted my game and re-started my series x so many times I've lost count

[crimson cliff]

if I can give them ONE leg up, letting local play have access to all characters is a big plus for the tourney scene

[devout void]

also training mode letting them use everything, but the low gold and especially the low pass exp is a problem

pass exp itself being so low is actually gonna hurt them in the long run because no one is gonna want to buy the pass if they cant even complete it

[frozen bramble]

nerf taz's tornado. nothing more to say cmon

[echo wasp]

Skin prices are way too high

[devout void]

i think the tornado needs less kill power, but you can easily dodge it and most charge moves like shaggy's kick or the jake horse can punch through it

[low ivy]

Does the game have a Middle East server?

[native dirge]

Hey, so I'm having this issue where I can't play online, I'll cue up, join, pick perks, load and then bam, back to lobby with a error message, I've tried everything, for the last 5 hours I've deleted my game and re-started my series x so many times I've lost count

I have, many people have the issue, but neither Tony or the mods care

[regal sail]

There should be a way to continue playing with someone. Like continue re-matching over and over. As well as, adding someone after a match

[proud badger]

Hi I have a question why it only let me play offline?

[eternal moon]

Cheers to hoping for tornado nerfs once again

[opaque flame]

please lower the prices of in-game purchases, gleamium and all the founder's packs cost literally twice as much as i feel like they should. i would GLADLY buy the premium founders pack if it was 50$ or 60$ instead of 100$

[normal bane]

I don't think the gleamium is overpriced but the stuff you can buy with it is.

100 gleams for a Voicepack and emotes being 500 is wild

[eternal moon]

Gleamium is find. Founders pack is overpriced for sure

fine*

[devout void]

want to point out that characters are 700 gleamium, you cant buy 700 gleamium, you have to buy 10 dollars worth of it, so basically a new character is 10 dollars in this smash clone. thats absurd

[opaque flame]

functionally that means the same thing :p
i just think its kind of absurd that i would have to spend 5 dollars to get one alt costume for a character, or 10 dollars for the more expensive ones. for a COSTUME.

[devout void]

even if you want to argue that smash has dlc, those are 5 and include the character, several costumes for that character, a new stage and a bunch of music.
this is just absurd

[winged grotto]

IDK if im missing something but getting stuck fighting against lvl 12s while im lvl 1 is really unfun

[devout void]

if you want to argue gleamium is 1:1 with money and 700 gleamium is 7 dollars, thats still absurd for just a new character. you still gotta buy the costumes and all that

[vagrant canopy]

MAKE TAZ TORNADO COOLDOWN

[devout void]

honestly, make the gold version cheaper and make it so if you buy the character with gleamium you get the costumes for free or something

[coarse ridge]

NERF TAZ TORNADO

[devout void]

it just doesnt make sense to burn 7 dollars unless they are honestly banking on whales which is just horrible buisiness practice and comes at the cost of the rest of the players

500 for emotes, 150 for announcers, i bet if they get snoop dogg as an announcer they'd gladly make it cost 420.

no way to earn these via gold, even considering the very slow gold rate is just plain ridiculous. let alone the fact that its a huge pain to get even one character.

[normal bane]

Y'all struggling with taz nado is funny cause as a Garnet player its really easy to punish

[devout void]

shaggy can also punish it

[opaque flame]

taz is pretty easy to punish with most characters if you just play with a brain

[winged grotto]

i think the big problem is a lot of 2v2 teams are getting multi tazs and they just spam the attack making the fight more of a slog then a actual fun fight

[eternal moon]

As someone who bodies taz, it doesnt matter it needs nerfs its just horrible game design

[devout void]

the prices on gleamium are also pretty messed up, 5 dollars gets you 450, 10 dollars gets you a thousand. which implies they give you less than what gleamium is actually worth for 5 bucks than if you spent more

[winged grotto]

at least that's what im noticing recently since i don't like 1v1s

[eternal moon]

Especially for 2v2s

[delicate shell]

Nerf taz some more

[normal bane]

Ive ran into those people. Its obnoxious but still easy to deal with. Ranked wont have same character teams according to Tony if that helps ya

[opaque flame]

dont nerf taz just make the rest of his moveset better and make tornado less braindead

[brave crater]

Taz should 100% have a Cool down for his tornado move like garnet does with half her moveset

[opaque flame]

he doesnt need a cooldown on tornado and it wouldnt fit the character

[winged grotto]

that's nice to hear, just wish that casual let you select a level based matchmaking so i could learn Wonder Woman without fighting 2 level 12s x3

[devout void]

i get it, profit margins and wb wants to see the dollars, but if you wanted a game to support for a long time you cant just burn literally everything to the ground in the name of short sighted profits.
if they wanted profits so bad why even agree to this and not just something like a standalone release

[lunar delta]

I see that a lot of people already said what i was going to say... But I'll say it anyway, PLEASE, nerf Taz' tornado

[devout void]

it feels very short sighted to do this, especially when it pretty much pushes people who dont have money to spare away, either play 100s of hours of characters you dont like to get the character you want or cough up cash.

i think people would honestly prefer to go just play something else

[lunar delta]

People spend entire matches doing the same move that only can get countered in very very specific situations

[brave crater]

but garnets cooldowns are fine?

[lunar delta]

But that's how it works, if you spend more, you get a better offer

[lunar delta]

Same for wonder woman and batman

[opaque flame]

taz's tornado isnt hard or situational to counter at all, just dont run directly into his face

[devout void]

you guys aren't on mobile, you dont have the protection of being a niche game on a platform that incentivises spending money like mobile,
your on pc, where there are a ton of cheaper platform fighters of good quality that have all the characters accessable standard.

there is no niche, people have standards when it comes to pc games, and it definately aint mobile game tactics in a smash bros clone.
people are quickly gonna just go buy or play something that does let them have fun and pick the character they want.

[eternal moon]

Taz def needs a cooldown. "doesnt fit the character." doesnt matter in a plat fighter or fighting game balance period

[lunar delta]

Do you main taz?

[opaque flame]

no i main harley and wonder woman

[brave crater]

so just screw every mele based character? if we cant touch him 90% of the match whats the point

[eternal moon]

"Dont run in his face." Is a carried 1v1 mentality. In 2v2's its so bad

[opaque flame]

i have not played 1v1 a single time lol

[eternal moon]

A super man Taz team can Grab, tornado loop

[opaque flame]

in a 2v1 maybe that could work

[eternal moon]

Nah it works in 2v2s too. would obliterate 2v1s

all the characters need a rework tbh

[brave crater]

nah i LOVE how garnet is but Taz and a few other are just dumb

[eternal moon]

garnet is op

[brave crater]

I also like how Iron Giant is

[eternal moon]

he sucks wym

Iron giant just needs his canonball nerfs

[brave crater]

how tho, all her good moves have cooldowns and her mele is super shortrange

[lethal onyx]

Fix the advance tutorials, the knockback control one is impossible to do, please fix

[sacred laurel]

put taz tornado on a cool down. even on attack decay does stupid damage and has normal knockback.

[brave crater]

yesssss thats what ive been saying this whole time

[devout void]

you guys really need to massively increase the amount of battle pass exp you get per match, you should be atleast getting 50 if not more per match, not 10 maybe 14 if your lucky

[runic lion]

Anyone else think Iron Giant does too much damage?

[devout void]

it just doesnt make sense to even give any pass exp if its gonna be so miniscule that its single digits, especially the rest exp system, like seriously, thank god i waited, now i get 24 exp per match instead of 12.
It just feels absurdity slow and i dont even understand why, you cant buy battle pass exp. it just makes people not want to buy the pass. if it were 50 then yeah it wouldnt be super fast but it make sense to do matches for the exp since you could get a rank up within a reasonable amount of matches.

as it stands right now id have to do more than 60 matches just to rank up once in my battle pass excluding challenge exp,

I imagine alot of people would feel like buying the battle pass if they completed the free one and realised they could get all the goodies if they just bought it right then

[sacred laurel]

iron giant is fine reindog out here doing 600 😭

[brave crater]

bruh ive fought a solid 2 reindogs lol

[hollow swallow]

Iron Giant needs a big buff, like super armor on most attacks. Rein dog crazy broken too

[gritty radish]

Iron giant does do a bit of damage but he lacks knockback options from what i noticed.

[brave crater]

theres only 15 tiers its not that deep

[eternal moon]

BUFF TAZ

[brave crater]

no nerf taz

[eternal moon]

tbh i think taz needs a little bit of a buff because the tornado barely last any time and its not realistic bc it barely does any dmg

[gritty radish]

Tornado got more annoying since the last time i played.

[worn vine]

How can you play local game with keyboard and controller?

[devout void]

yeah, and its over 600 exp per tier later on.
and this is a small one, whats gonna happen when its 30 to 50 tiers on the pass?
it just doesnt make sense that match gamepass exp is so low, why even have a rest exp system if your just gonna offer an amount so small it doesnt even matter

it should be like 50, that way a person could reasonably rank up after 6-7 matches, and the rest exp system actually provides a percivable bonus

[brave crater]

anybody saying taz needs a buff is either trolling or hasnt played 2s at all

[gritty radish]

Also yeah the seasonal milestones are barely worth anything with how exp is required per tier

[hollow swallow]

Tornado is the only move that Taz has thats good lmao, hes a d tier character without it

[gritty radish]

Literally completed a seasonal milestone and it only got me 1 rank up on the pass, and this is a small pass they said...that worries me a ton

[eternal moon]

no its just not realistic tornadoes shouldnt do that little dmg

[devout void]

then fix the rest of taz and nerf the tornado

[runic current]

Please add an option to allow controls to have the same keybinds. For example, I would love it if you can bind both (aim up) and (jump) to the [W] key.

[gritty radish]

Tornados are too jank is my issue, it's a mixup if you try to counter it up close, armor moves dont even counter it half the time but other times they do, my issue is how inconsistant the tornado is.

[hollow swallow]

All the tornado needs is like a 20 percent knockback nerf

Also it honestly should only be able to go one way, the fact that you can change directions with it is kinda broken

[fading oar]

yea I havent been able to complete this one either

[brave crater]

when the battlepass gets bigger I fully understand but for now all it will take is like 4 days to finish

[gritty radish]

My problem is, if that scaling it currently has will just get worse in a bigger battle pass or if this one is purposefully made longer to match a regular battle pass.

[devout void]

i did the math, rank 5 on the pass requires 575 pass exp and increases from there by about 25 i think.

doing your daily challenges every day since the season started (20 days), earns you 12000 exp (not considering the rare chance of a 200 exp challenge), combined with the measly 3 seasonal challenges we get, thats an extra 1800 exp so in total before you have to grind matches, you get at minimum 13800.

considering the exp requirement increases exponentially, theres a major problem here, my ranks already in the 700's requirements, your gonna burn through that amount of xp quick

[chilly seal]

PLEASE NERF TAZ IM HAVING A HEART ATTACK

[near mist]

LOL

[hardy solstice]

i know at top level taz isnt busted, but mid and especially low level taz is so annoyingly good

[near mist]

As a taz main we’re gonna have to scrap

[devout void]

and even then. thats if you do everything constantly, and i mean every possible option available to you except grinding a miniscule amount of exp

[chilly seal]

YOU ARE THE REASON THIS WORLD IS PLAGUED

[near mist]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[devout void]

so your gonna be riding it close to the edge by the time you get all that exp

[limber lily]

I hope all the "Nerf Taz" complaints don't overshadow the grinding issues that need to be addressed

[devout void]

during the test earned pass exp was way higher and much better implemented, i dont even understand why they nerfed it.
theres no monetary gain from this, just making the player experience worse, free or paid pass its just gonna be way more tedious to get far

[chilly seal]

WE NEED TAZ NERFED, REINDOG BUFFED, 3V3, MAKE IT SO YOU DONT NEED TO ADD BOTS IN CUSTOMS, AND EXP/BATTLEPASS POINTS MORE VIABLE

[primal atlas]

are they going to fix the knockback influence??

[obtuse laurel]

you can't test stackable perks in the lab even if you and the ai are on the same team

[devout void]

apparently the game will rotate characters, im not sure if in our case that means we lose all our current characters or we'll keep them.
as it stands right now if they are not permanent, we have no way of actually unlocking them before the switch

[hollow swallow]

Yeah I have the same complaint, the alpha was way better for gold and exp. Cosmetics should really be the only thing that should stay the same from this beta

[devout void]

i dont mind monetization, its that it comes at making everything else tedious for no reason

[near mist]

I’m kidding dawg I’m a Batman main Lmaoo

[eternal moon]

reindog dont need buffs

[devout void]

no one is gonna buy a character for 700 gleam, it just makes it so the gold cost is absurd, people are just gonna grind gold.
make the cost 1500 gold and give an actual bonus for buying the character for gleamium, like a free costume and emote or something

[eternal moon]

L take

[devout void]

even whales dont spend money where its obvious that they can save money.

it doesnt even make sense, if they wanted to appeal to whales why not do what smites doing and offer everything in one shot

you still make money off of the cosmetics but whales get every character at a markup

[plucky cape]

ong game feedback add asia servers B) 😐

[near mist]

Ayo

[grave elbow]

i dont understand why i cant beat taz side b with my disjointed sword or backpack
so uh
nerf taz side b lol

[dusky hornet]

My problem so far is (still early beta) but Taz's game plan as of right now is currently one dimensional I would say tune down the Tornado and slightly tune up other moves because as of right now he's just a one button character

I feel like some moves that beat it just sometimes get snuffed out by it either because taz was in the air or at an angle where it's hard to hit him out of it

[grave elbow]

honestly just make the hitbox match the actual animation
it sucks in from so far

and also it does like 20%, kills, and is really really safe

[near mist]

W take

[dusky hornet]

It also feels so hard to whiff punish for a move that gives such a massive reward

[primal helm]

i can see why people are complaining about taz

[hollow swallow]

There needs to be at least a 2x increase for the amount of gold you get, I've been playing for 6 hours now and only have unlocked the Iron Giant and don't have enough for a 2nd character

[dusky hornet]

Again it's early beta but it feels hard to deal with and seems like it's the only thing taz has besides the up special

[grave elbow]

yeah the gold gain is really really slow
it would be way cooler if the premium currency was really just for cosmetic stuff, rather than having to use it to get characters at any reasonable rate

[dusky hornet]

Increase the gold speed by 3 or 4 times the speed

[grave elbow]

what would be cool actually is having the gold rewards for daily missions actually be daily
instead of just a one time thing right when you start playing the first time

[near mist]

Gleamium 🤤

[grave elbow]

nah, its pretty much uncontestable
genuinely feels like the best move in the game by a landslide

[hollow swallow]

you just gotta space it out and punish when he comes out

[dusky hornet]

If you could get above taz down airs work well and some side b's like shaggy

[hollow swallow]

yeah shaggys side b counters taz

[dusky hornet]

Depends on the angle but yeah most of the time if taz is on the ground side b works

[obtuse laurel]

you can barely test perks in the lab, needs to be improved upon

[sullen comet]

skins a tad overpriced

[eternal moon]

I think they should make it so in local play if theres no all 4 players, a bot fills the spot instead

[sharp sleet]

should add feature to do 3 player ffas in custom lobby

[elfin zealot]

an option to have the camera like, center on your character would be nice

[coarse notch]

Taz is destroying the game, nerf please ?

[brave crater]

add a cooldown to his tornado like garnet has for half her moveset

[eternal moon]

Yeah!

You cant play FFA or teams unless theres 4 controllers connected which doesnt make sense and is kind of bothersome as maybe people do want to do non balanced teams or just dont have 4 controllers, I suggest just letting the game work like that like in smash or add a bot as a replacement for the player that doesnt have a spot because of no controller available

[keen breach]

tass to op

[rough thicket]

FIX ONLINE MODE

[sterile niche]

Just wanted to confirm that the game works great on Steam Deck for me 🙂

[lean zinc]

online works? didnt in the last alpha

[brave crater]

Works fine lmao

[rough thicket]

NO THE 18+ thing

[hardy crown]

taz is so aids why is his tornado so spammable and what move can i interrupt it with with superman it kills at so low for no reason and it has relatively no cooldown and it gets damage decay after hitting twice but it doesnt even matter because it throws so far

[sterile niche]

just did for me fine

[lean zinc]

oh sick they probably updated the anticheat

so that means it should work for linux users

[sterile niche]

I'd double check yourself to confirm 😄

[limber swan]

Taz spin atack is broken, nerf it

[hardy crown]

taz is 99% fine except for the spin attack is so busted

[brave crater]

give his spin a cooldown like garnet has

[umbral sleet]

Something needs to be done about the micro transactions in the game. They’re abysmal. I knew they were going to be aggressive since it’s a free to play and I understand that game needs a way to make money, but holy moly is this a new level of low! I think it’s debatable that this is worse than what activision pulls! Everything is so expensive and you barely earn any currency. I legit only get about 30 gold from a match, and you make characters worth 2000!? Not to mention that the expert characters cost 3000, which implies that even though you can get these characters by playing the game, you are pushing as hard as you can for players to spend actual money in order to get these characters! And don’t think I didn’t notice the cost of a couple other items. A profile icon for 50K gold and a banner for 20K gold!? Who the heck came up with those numbers for such measly cosmetics that look decent compared to the 2000 cost for characters? I know I just complained about the cost characters vs how much gold you earn, but I could buy 10-50 characters with all that gold instead of two stupid cosmetics that people will only take a glance at. And then there’s gleamium, the premium currency, which at this point in time, there is no way to earn at least a small bit for free. At least all the other games with battle passes give a couple hundred free premium currency in every battle pass, but not here! You don’t even get any from the premium pass! And to top it all off, everything costs gleamium, including announcer packs, which in the closed alpha were unlocked by reaching lvl 15 in each character’s individual battle pass. They were so cool, and gave an incentive to play and unlock some of these cool items. This situation really just highlights the overall message here that everything is either locked behind a paywall, or is highly encouraged to pay for (and I emphasize the highly). I hope something can be done to help improve this situation, because besides this, I’m having fun.

[white hull]

I play jake so i just dodge or fair the tornado

U only get 30?

[weak viper]

have 1 character of each class type become and stay free, i literally cannot do a mission because i dont have any support characters

[hollow swallow]

You cant add reactions so here: ❤️

[waxen ore]

there should be a better warning system for going out of bounds because by the time i see it it’s too late

[raw fern]

its funny how there really is no way to see skill gaps when u have a character like taz constantly running using the tornado there is no other decent moves for the character but spamming a tornado??? and why is batman able to grapple onto people who got hit off the map? im tryna grapple onto the enemy while my teamate was bout to die and it grappled onto him and i got launched and died? what sense does that make

[wintry citrus]

i agree w dat ^^^

[sharp fjord]

Please give us an option to autodecline that autoinvite to party

[ember shadow]

skill issue

[limpid ibex]

@radiant cedar @last notch
It's way too grindy now.
• Make the wins from matches be 200-ish instead of 30-ish
• I can't get the legendary skins now without paying for it. In previous Alphas and Betas you got it at the end of the Battlepass. Add that back.

[raw fern]

i never read something with more irony in my life

[marsh willow]

Please add server for Asia

[waxen ore]

nah you’re right though, i’m almost enough gold for an exotic but i imagine it’ll take me like a months before i even get close to that again

[limber lily]

I played a lot in the alpha, but I'm already bored just because of the character selection and how hard it is to grind for more characters. I don't just play 1 character, I keep changing, but with how few characters I have available I'd rather just not play outside the dailies.

[frozen bramble]

Get rid of spammy broken coward Batman

[waxen ore]

bro you’re so right he reminds me a lot of the grapple spammers in Injustice 2

[weary aurora]

nah man, you gotta remember its day 1, it feels grindy but if it was 200 coins you would have every character in the game in a couple days, yeah it sucks to grind at first, but think about the big picture, it should take a bit to get all the chars

[ember shadow]

Cope harder #removetazfromthegame

[frozen bramble]

Upvote this

#removetazandbatman #spamcharacters #spam #noskillgap

[willow latch]

no the grind currently is just too much at least doubling the current gold gain would help but even that is not enough. It takes way too long to grind for a character in this current coin economy.

[sacred brook]

Skill issue

[willow latch]

take a bit to get all the characters is the understatement of the centaury for how long it would take with how long it currently takes

[frozen bramble]

M8. It has been 1 day. I have 4/10 characters that u can unlock unlocked. That’s 40%. In 1 day of a game release. How long u think the games gonna last?

[weary aurora]

i already got 2 out of like 10 bruh in 1 day

[scenic drift]

Can anybody here help me with an xbox bug?

[raw fern]

cope with having the skill of a 9yr old wit below average chromosomes

[willow latch]

2 out of 10 with the starting quests you won't have those again it would take a long time to get all the characters with just earnings from winning

[ember shadow]

this was a very funny comment user #removetazfromthegame well played

[raw fern]

same to u

[zealous narwhal]

Guys if u think taz is unfun to play against u clearly didnt played against good harley quinn

[limpid ibex]

True.

[ember shadow]

nah dawg I'm a taz main a good harley quinn just means i hit side b a little harder

[radiant edge]

If you think Taz is unfun to fight against, may I introduce you to: the entire rest of the cast at a high level

[devout void]

honestly the pass exp rate should be 50 per match standard total, and the gold rate should be like 100 per match. this single digit stuff just is ridiculous, everyone knows what your doing and no one is gonna buy into it.

Your a platform fighter, not diablo immoral. Act like it

[hardy crown]

tbh you shouldnt be able to team queue the same character ive had to fight double taz tornado spam and double velma range spam (not difficult but still unreasonable) and i dont see why its a thing

[devout void]

ranked is gonna be limited to only allowing one of a character per team

[willow latch]

yea idk why its so low I understand the need to slow down the players so they don't level up and get everything too fast but like come on its a little ridiculous

[sturdy imp]

FIX IRON GIANT

FIX IRON GIANT HIS HITBOX IS WAY TOO BIG

[zealous narwhal]

I think u can earn a good amount of gold from daily challenges

[ember shadow]

brother he is big

[sturdy imp]

which means bad experience when you play 2v2 on a stage that is already too small

[limpid ibex]

No it shouldn't. This is a clear way to get players to empty their wallets to buy coins and skins. The previous version handled it much better, with only one currency type, and 200+ coins per match.

Here, let's say you get the first 2 characters in 2 hours. Now you get into the true game: 38 gold on average for each win. So you have 14 characters left, with each character costing 2000 gold. Let's assume that you win each time, and that each match takes 2 minutes. 14 characters times 2000 gold per character times 1 match giving 38 gold times 2 minutes = 14 * 2000 / 38 * 2 = 1474 minutes. That equals out to 24 and a half hours. It'll take you a day and some change (with no breaks) to unlock each character.

[radiant edge]

Iron giant being big is the point
He trades a massive hitbox for stupid strong moves

[radiant edge]

*every character
Massive difference

[limpid ibex]

I know, but still, that is way too long for my liking.

It just makes no sense to me, when they got it 100% correct last version!

[devout void]

i dont mind the cosmetic stuff, its the fact that characters are like this simply to make people desperate buy into the gleam scheme for no reason.

spend 7 dollars (though actually 10 because you need to buy 10 dollars worth of currency) for a character, 5 dollars for their costume, 1.50 for an announcer pack/minor emotes, 5 dollars for their alternate emote, oh dont forget the battle pass where some skins are exclusive to it and take an excessive amount of time to grind.... all for a SINGLE character
** WHY?** you got the cosmetics, why make it so you have to buy in to spend more money. thats not how smart monetization works.
oh but! you can grind hundreds of matches for peanuts painted gold until you eventually make the money.

people want to play the characters, but they aren't desperate about it, about to go insane clawing their eyes out over the fact they cant play as iron giant.
When they find that its just a predatory mess then they'll just go play something else or download other people's rendition on mugen or rivals of aether instead of playing this.
WB or whoever is responsible for this, you dont have the leniency of a cash grab mobile game, you have people who are used to a game that is literally the maker of the genre and a hundred times more reasonably priced and fair.
If people want a fantastic smash bros game thats extremely well balanced, nothing is gonna stop them from going to play smash flash 2 for free. unlike switch where you dont have many options, your on pc, a platform that has hundreds of good games similar to this, free and paid.
no matter how big a fish you think you are, your still a very young fish in a very big pond

[coarse elk]

Does anyone know how to fix insane lag and stuttering in the lobby/menu? started after I restarted the game (im on ps5, already tried to reboot!)

[zealous narwhal]

Im wondering why they decreased drastically the battle pass during alpha there was 50 tiers now its only 15

[limpid ibex]

This. This one right here. Well put my guy.

[dense crane]

How do i play comp it's greyed out

[spring meadow]

give batman grapple a cooldown like wonder woman's lasso

[devout void]

in total ignoring the extra emotes and announcer pack, thats 17 dollars for single character to have everything so far, though you'll have to spend 20 for the currency.
compare that to smash bros where all that plus usually more costumes, a bunch of music, and a stage, ontop of a small amount of side content with the dlc spirit board, for 6 dollars. 5 each if you grab the season pass.

thats insane. even more so that buying the character is the most expensive purchase. People aren't gonna be happy with this at all, id prefer if this game didnt become WB's Battlefront 2.

and i know for a fact from the tests that the characters have more costumes than you've shown off so far, shaggy had 3 costumes. so thats actually 5 for every alt costume they decide to add, so its actually** 17 dollars for the character, one alternate emote, and one alternate costume.** want shaglee, king of the ring shaggy, or black lantern superman? cough up 5 bucks ontop of the 17 you already paid.

thats if it isnt part of a more expensive battle pass you probably wont be able to complete unless you dedicate your life to the game for the entire duration of the season

[stone hearth]

Massive input delay and server instability. Im getting hit by moves i shouldnt get hit by because the servers cant keep up.

[devout void]

I hope, i just hope that the devs can show whoever decided the level of monetization that this is not healthy, you'd make more money being honest and generous than predatory and nasty to the degree no one wants to buy in on principle alone.

there is a reason that people like toby fox, scott cawthon, team cherry, yacht club, eric barone, make possibly millions if not billions despite not charging every step of the way and even providing free content, they got respect and an honest product, respect you can lose quickly with dishonest predatory monetization like this

[fading oar]

Need a form of communication for people playing crossplay.

[devout void]

the same people that other big names claw for to put sans or the hollow knight, or freddy fazbear in their own games, or people make games about their games, don't have to do stuff like this, and it makes them even more money because they don't

im just some no name piece of trash rando, who has been clogging up this channel with my rants. what i say wont even matter or reach any farther than some college credit intern, but even so.... you got something good here, really good, the closest ive seen to something on par with the Big N's absolute best. you need to use it better than this

[fast karma]

Can we make it to where taz spin has a cool down because for new players like myself it seems impossible to counter and I really wish we could like at least a 2.5 second cooldown

[paper edge]

Not a big fan on the penny pinching microtransaction system, but I can at least say this: Better than Fall Guy's system right now.

Could definitely see myself playing for hours, if not days on end for Ranked when it eventually comes out. Genuinely enjoying this game.

[glass tartan]

well said

[shadow totem]

I feel like dodging universally should be toned down, a lot of times people straight up have no end lag and get to dodge for free

I think there was dodge decay in the alpha, something like that would be nice again

[thorny stump]

I'm just gonna be honest. From day one I was worried about the Unlock system, especially when it came to Monetization aspects. In the previous Alphas it wasn't too bad, as you had a good selection of characters available with a few you needed unlock. That was fine. But now? My worries and fears have come true, and on top of gold being far scarce than in the earlier alphas, and the price of gold required going up if a character is an "Expert" really sours everything for me. I think the best compromise is to just have ALL the characters unlocked from the start and keep the monetization stuff solely for cosmetics. At the very least, everyone will be able to play every character outside of the Lab, and not have to tirelessly and slowly grind for gold if they don't want to hock up the 100 dollars for the Ultimate pass. And if you MUST keep that unlock system, then lower the prices of gold or make gold more easier to obtain via missions OTHER than the starter missions.

As for Gleamium, I'm not too against the idea of Premium currency. A lot of F2P games have it. But why would you introduce it here and make it exclusive to the passes that require REAL money to purchase? Why is this not a reward you can obtain via missions or free pass stuff? All I'm saying is if you're going to introduce a premium currency, give those who don't want to spend money on it an option to obtain it through playing the game.

[chrome ridge]

It’s a free game they need money and glemium is practically only cosmetic based

[devout void]

i dont hate it, i think the better idea would be to instead offer characters for 1500 gold which isnt a terrible price, and then offer the character for 700 gleamium and it comes with extra bonuses like max level, free costumes, emotes, etc.
yeah it kinda sucks for people to instantly be able to buy a max level character but character levels mean nothing in this game.

it means your able to use some perks slightly earlier than spending 30 minutes with that same character to unlock the same perks

[chrome ridge]

They need to make money as the game is free. It cosmetics are free they have no way to actually make jncome. Cosmetics are completely optional and do not enhance or deplete your actual expierence

[devout void]

i know but making it tedious to actually play the game with the character's you want to the point that no one wants to play is just gonna make them even less money,

75% is more than 0, which is what this game will be making if its ran into the ground with awful monetization like this

[keen ibex]

How do i find the license when It says I've used it

[chrome ridge]

how is not getting costumes making it tedious. I can understand making characters a lower price, but to max it out and give them free costumes js a stupid idea. Ruins the point of actually leveling up characters and grinding a character. And just like before, costumes are completely optional

[thorny stump]

And again, other F2P Games have premium currency to purchase too. But at the same time players can earn said premium currency (albeit a small amount) via other means such as:
-Login Bonuses
-Missions
-Or the devs giving them away as a gift to players.

[crimson cliff]

There's a line to walk between "needing to make money" and nickel-and-diming consumers

[chrome ridge]

you don’t understand that if that was the case, they would not be able to make money as the game is free.

[arctic cargo]

Uh, nerfed finn
harder to get coins
harder to get tiers rn
More FPS now

[chrome ridge]

adding costumes is not scamming consumers, it’s just them finding a way to make money that is completely optional

[thorn kayak]

I feel like implementing the right to be able to remove a keybind is a good idea. For example, I've played Brawlhalla before and I prefer jumping with my W key and currently you aren't able to because if you do, you're w key will be gone from the "up" command. Therefore, I think going in depth and expanding your privilege's in the controls tab are helpful to the player base due to players coming from diverse games.

[icy marten]

Nerf taz

[hollow heron]

he sux

[devout void]

im not saying it all needs to be free, im saying that it needs to actually be reasonably able to be a platform fighter, which it fails at by preventing you from being able to access the fighters you want without hours upon hours of grinding or spending money out of the gate.
Theres no reason they had to be so tedious to just be able to play the characters you want, especially with so much more stuff relating to them you can buy, but cant or wont because you dont feel like no lifeing a game for a week just for the privilege to buy iron giant with a floatie

[chrome ridge]

It’s so easy to get coins. Literally was able to buy my character with around 30 minutes of playtime

[crimson cliff]

You can't even do that because Gleamium is not earnable through any means other than a real money purchase

[devout void]

id have zero reason to be upset if it were reasonably easy to grind for the gold for the character, you get about 2000 or so easily, but after that the grind drops harder than a bottomless pit with a bottom at the end.

[chrome ridge]

I think that characters should be cheaper, maybe 700-1000. Though, making them free kinda ruins what they were marketing.

[grim barn]

I think a free game needs to have money

[devout void]

i dont need them to be free, i think they need to be more easily accessible

[grim barn]

Do that mean 5+0

[forest nacelle]

characters definitely shouldn’t be free but they’re way overpriced or we just don’t get enough gold while playing

[hollow heron]

yeah I think halfing the cost of everyone would be good

[chrome ridge]

Yeah

[grim barn]

It’s so easy to get 2000 coins

[devout void]

they heavily nerfed the ability to gain characters since the tests which i was a part of all 3.
if it were 1500 and reasonable to grind then id be ok. but at this rate and considering how expensive other gold purchases are, i think we need way more gold earned per match, like 50 per match.

[thorny stump]

Exactly my point! I don't mind the unlock system, but the best compromise would be to just lower the prices severely.

[forest nacelle]

it’s too time consuming especially when you don’t have challenges after you complete the ones for the day

[devout void]

50 gold per match, 100 if you have rest EXP, thats pretty good to me.

[crimson cliff]

Definitely this, while the first character's worth was fine and the closed alpha's values were fine, now you get approx 30 per match if you're constantly winning, and with expert characters costing 3000 that's criminal.

[devout void]

personally exp for the pass should be around that point too

[chrome ridge]

I do also agree that the “expert characters cost more” is stupid. I think that every character should cost the same as every character is good depending on the player

[tribal abyss]

The servers seem the be laggy in the alpha I had no problems playing with like anyone but now like 90% of the match’s are laggy

[forest nacelle]

exactly my point thank you

[forest nacelle]

yea idk where they were going with that😭

[devout void]

honestly i think just costing 1500 universally with the 700 gleam option just making the character max level out of the gate is the perfect idea

yeah its a bit p2w but levels for characters dont mean much in this game, and leveling up to max is not difficult at all

[grim barn]

🍆❤️❤️

[forest nacelle]

doesn’t 700 gleam seem like too much for a character tho or nah?

[devout void]

its 7 dollars, technically 10 since you have to buy 10 dollars worth of currency initially

[echo wasp]

the economy of this game is awful. everything is way too expensive. they should legit cut the cost of everything in half

[devout void]

yes its alot, more expensive than smash and none of the extra stuff

[crimson cliff]

Don't even get me started on the battle pass- 5 XP min 15 max, if you're lucky

[devout void]

i just really dont want this game to die due to this horrible Gleam Scheme

[forest nacelle]

ok but seriously what happened to the battle pass y is there 15 tiers?

[sacred brook]

Is there a reason why I get little to no gold

[crimson cliff]

It's a "preseason" pass, the real pass is longer and starts 8/8

[chrome ridge]

Some critism tell me your thoughts pls:

Taz tornado should have a cooldown, just like how bugs bunny has a cooldown on many of his moves

Trio and Co Op soon as possible

Bugs Bunny’s moves should be faster. Not his specials (the ones with the cooldown). But his actual physical moves take to long to actually hit that it’s difficult to actually get kills without the specials.

Expert thing stupid make every character cost 500-1000 coins

[forest nacelle]

oh okay thanks

[echo wasp]

I'm gonna hold off and see if PFG actually address the issues with in-game currency and MTX costs. If they do, big credit to them. If not, that really sucks

[crimson cliff]

This low XP gain kills all incentive to even purchase a pass if you have no hope of completing it

[echo wasp]

You absolutely need to do the daily missions to have any hope of finishing a battle pass

[forest nacelle]

yes the tornado needs a big nerf new players get destroyed by it having no chance honestly

[chrome ridge]

it’s such a fun game but trying to do anything with bugs bunny slow moves against a tornado that makes you stunlocked and cancels attacks and is fast just makes the game boring

[crimson cliff]

Straight up I plan on doing my own detailed write up on this game's economy issues and possible solutions, I'm very passionate about this issue

[grim barn]

I like the game

[chrome ridge]

Low key if super smash was on pc multiverses wouldn’t sell any copies

[echo wasp]

Bugs got nerfed way too hard without getting any real buffs in return. His safe is just not any good anymore in most situations and the rest of his kit just feels clunky and slow

[crimson cliff]

That's not the point, Gleamium is not earnable by playing whatsoever

[echo wasp]

That in itself wouldn't be an issue if not for the fact that skins are ridiculously overpriced

[chrome ridge]

I love him because when you finally hit a combo with a rocket or a safe, it feels so rewarding, but his movements are so slow.

[grim barn]

There’s already hackers

[echo wasp]

He was my Alpha main so I feel you there, he's so fun in general. just needs some fine tuning

[worldly cloak]

Not going to lie I’m really like this game but I really hope they add more characters upon the games release because there really just isn’t enough at all

[chrome ridge]

Planning on keeping him as my main but they better buff him soon

[grim barn]

😱😱

[echo wasp]

Given the fact that the premium founders pass gives 30 character tokens, I hope so too. Right now there's like 16 characters in the game

[echo wasp]

Same, unless they add my boy Marvin

[crimson cliff]

Tbh I think those character tokens are 5 per character, based on the different tier founder packs

[chrome ridge]

W Rick and Marvin are looking really nice

[echo wasp]

Nope I used a couple already, one per character

[grim barn]

They need daffy the duck

[crimson cliff]

I stand corrected, that's pretty insane then

[echo wasp]

Exciting for sure, just curious when the roster is gonna get that big

[chrome ridge]

I’m saving my character tokens I have like 13

[worldly cloak]

I already New Rick was gonna be in the game but I was doing the tutorial when I entered the game and I was fighting Mr. Meeseeks and that just made the game seem so much more fun knowing that one of my favorite characters is going to be in it

[echo wasp]

Rick could be cool, haven't seen anything of him in action. If there's Marvin sightings out there, I definitely want to see

[worldly cloak]

For sure

[chrome ridge]

There are leaks of Marvin and Rick is practically confirmed

[forest nacelle]

hopefully rick is not an “expert” character😭

[echo wasp]

Niiiiiiiiiiice

[grim barn]

I NEED DAFFY THE DUCK

[worldly cloak]

What dose that mean

[forest nacelle]

he will cost 3000

[worldly cloak]

Dayuuuum

[grim barn]

Nope

[chrome ridge]

Do you guys think multiversus is better than smash?

[worldly cloak]

Until the games release I’m just gonna be using Tasmanian devil got a stick to the OG

[echo wasp]

No but it's unique. Feels more chill

[forest nacelle]

rick is def the next character there was a whole 1:30 gameplay vid on twitter if anyone else seen it he looks very cool

[grim barn]

I’m playing the game rn

[echo wasp]

Obviously can't post it here but DM me that vid if you have it on hand

[worldly cloak]

No the full game That’s early access

[grim barn]

Me

[forest nacelle]

i gotchu

[chrome ridge]

I don’t think that any 2d stage fighter can overtake smash

[worldly cloak]

It’s on YouTube

[forest nacelle]

how can i send you it it’s saying the file is too big :/

[hearty fractal]

will there be more servers for the game?

[echo wasp]

Hmmm, that's tricky. Not sure. Is the tweet for it down?

[worldly cloak]

He uses portals you can shoot through them and it goes to the other one is so cool

[forest nacelle]

the leaker was perm banned on twitter im not sure i’ll look one sec

[echo wasp]

Aaaah

[echo wasp]

Oh I think I found it on YT

[harsh nimbus]

and maybe change the approach to how much gold you get as well as at least making some of the cosmetics purchasable with gold

[worldly cloak]

So what are our thoughts on Walter white in multiversus

[echo wasp]

Definitely, solid idea

[echo wasp]

We need to cook

[worldly cloak]

Man they just need to add gus and give him a comically large razor blade

[chrome ridge]

they gotta add Walt and gus for sure

[worldly cloak]

No doubt those will be the most popular characters just because of the Memes

[forest nacelle]

i need kids next door and regular show and i’m set fr

[worldly cloak]

Don’t judge me but uncle Grandpa would be funny af

[forest nacelle]

imma be real i hated the show 😭

it’d be funny tho ngl

[worldly cloak]

Pizza Steve tho

[harsh nimbus]

I do agree though. The paymodel is very flawed and desperately needs to be tweaked.

it's pretty much the thing that will make or kill this game

[forest nacelle]

i really hope they fix it cuz if they go down this road we’re doomed

[worldly cloak]

Man we need homelander or butcher

[forest nacelle]

stevie griffin for multiversus

[worldly cloak]

Lol

[forest nacelle]

stewie*

[vernal sphinx]

harry potter

[sharp pulsar]

All I’m saying is if Walter White and Gus and Jessie are added this game would get so popular…

[indigo plover]

Amazing game.

[indigo plover]

This all of this.

[devout void]

whats up with the random prices for the costumes?
500 for summer taz, 800 for first form garnet, 1500 for LUAU VELMA!?!?
literally costs more than TWICE what she costs in gleam.

This is just absurd. what is the reasoning with these prices. Its obviously not because its an entirely new model like first fusion garnet, its just velma in different clothes, yet what makes her different from summer taz or bloodlines wonder woman?

the difference in model changes from waterdance arya and luau velma is functionally the same, yet velma's skin costs nearly twice as much, and both cost more than buying the character outright

honestly the more i look at it, its not like the pricing is just predatory, it just plain out doesnt make any sense...
some taunts cost 150, some cost 350, some cost 500, some skins cost 350, some cost 500, some cost more than the character itself, heck some of them literally cost 2000 and its literally just batman with a yellow bat symbol.

20 dollars for a slightly different bat symbol, actually insane.

[fervent crane]

Taz's tornado throw is the easiest finisher. Knocks people off stage at 70.

[devout void]

this stuff basically translates to 1 gleamium to 1 cent. So when you charge 1500 for a skin, your charging 15 dollars

[forest nacelle]

exactly and please tell me why there is a badge for 20,000 gold what is this bruh

[neat ember]

The game has the most stupid
ever theres no way I can die off of spawning in they need to fix it once you spawn in after death have invunrubility for like atleast 1.5s and if u hit anyone it cancels because thats actually so stupid 💀

[devout void]

i dont care that its a currency thats in house so you have 100% control, when its functionally 1:1 parallel to actual money its blaitantly obvious the pricing is absolutely absurd for no reason

i cant tell if they honestly thought people wouldn't notice or that they had built up enough good will for people to defend this because that isnt how it works.

[neat ember]

pay 2 win game and stupid spaawn in afteer death

[rare stump]

Bro really said p2w

[forest nacelle]

💀😭

[torpid flicker]

There literally is invulnerbility after spawn, what are you on about

[ember shadow]

skill issue

[fervent crane]

I have literally gone undefeated up until level 10 and have only lost to Taz tornadoing me off of platforms at 70 dmg.

It's such a broken move... What do you even do to counter it?

[swift panther]

Ok but legit i feel like they either need to chill out with attack decay or remove it entirely, how are you going to remove the ability to viably use one of your attack buttons, specifically on characters with a lot of combo with regular attack but mostly util with special attack

[ember shadow]

wait for the quarter second cooldown and capitalize

[earnest juniper]

I like the game a lot but maby add a screen adjust feature since even tho i adjust it on my ps4 it still doesnt fit on my screen

[swift panther]

dont try to contest and bait/dodge it out then punish

[ember shadow]

"Viably use one of your buttons" Spam? you can use other moves to cancel out attack decay

[neat ember]

Pay to win as in u can buy every godamn character in 5 seconds and its so cheap plus so many perks u can get too easily with money and the spawn invun sucks ass I spawned in and went straight to 60 in not even a second

[raw sable]

Can devs fix optimisation ? The game is slower than in alpha, I can't play with good graphics anymore. Anyone in the same boat?

[swift panther]

No, harley for example is a very combo heavy character while all of her other buttons put her in a weird position or have high amounts of frames which wouldnt be good for combos. There is no spam if you can use the dodge button and its replies like that who dont realize how it effects certain characters

[ember shadow]

if you dont spam the same combo attack decay goes away? I've played a lot of harleys and have never seen them get an attack decay

[ember shadow]

if your idea of a combo is hitting light attack right on repeat thats a skill issue 100%

[swift panther]

and “using moves to cancel out attack delay” harley again for example, side special which launches her away from the opponent? down special which she takes the time to place down a box? up special which she swings a bat upwards? neutral special where she picks up a bomb??

[forest nacelle]

let’s go just got 12 gold for winning a match!!!! gotta save up to 3000!!!😁

[fervent crane]

I JUST fought a taz player, with everybody here's advice, and he was a level 10 Taz spamming the tornado throw. I barely beat him.

[ember shadow]

While the bat goes upward its hitbox extends to characters standing on the ground so yes get creative and dont just spam

[swift panther]

so again, tell me its skill issue to use a random move that completely ends tour combo or puts you in a horrendous situation in order to “cancel attack delay” bro please learn the game first before trying to insult someone

[ember shadow]

brother its a skill issue 100% if the only combos you can do are hitting the same button over and over its you. You can also use different light attacks in other directions to cancel attack decays

[ember shadow]

The fact that you get So many attack decays that you brought it to the discord just means you gotta go back to the lab

[swift panther]

where can i post images to show you why youre a fool calling me a skill issue 😂

[zenith ridge]

My win rate is literally 100% and I haven’t payed a single sent wdym p2w

[deft light]

he had to have been trolling because no way 😭

[zenith ridge]

Honestly I feel like taz isn’t that bad and can def be beat if your not playing a bad character

[swift panther]

ok idk why im talking to this darby bozo apparently rank 907 and just because i have a 60 percent winrate is “weak”

[zenith ridge]

U complained about move staling when I bet you big bucks you would complain if there wasn’t move staling

[swift panther]

so anyways, attack delay needs to be fixed as it is beneficial to some characters and detrimental to others

[native dirge]

Hey, so I'm having this issue where I can't play online, I'll cue up, join, pick perks, load and then bam, back to lobby with a error message, I've tried everything, for the last 5 hours I've deleted my game and re-started my series x so many times I've lost count

Anyone got a fix?

[ember shadow]

Translation I spam and am angry because the game doesn't support that play style

[deft light]

beneficial how ?

[zenith ridge]

What is your age on the game

[native dirge]

22

[zenith ridge]

Bro if u want to spam on the game just pick taz

[ember shadow]

exactly

[swift panther]

It allows some characters to be able to use their full range of movesets without completely making a focus point on how that character is supposed to be played while others get forced to either be super passive or poking because of the attack delay, so thank you for asking instead of just homing in on “spam” like these bozos

since apparently me being better at the game than them is “weak and skill issue”

[native dirge]

?

[zenith ridge]

If your better then why are you complaining about a mechanic built to make the game a challenge if anything you should be thanking the lord that taz side b stales

[deft light]

^

[zenith ridge]

Shaggy jab without staling thats all im going to say

[swift panther]

Because even though im able to adapt to the mechanic built into the game i dont believe that it should force characters to be played a certain way, which is why most other fighting games thrive because they dont have that limited option. I believe that once this game is public its going to be made a main focal point for criticism

[zenith ridge]

How is it forcing characters into a playstyle I see taz spamming side b all the time with no issue

[forest nacelle]

damn bro that’s sucks i wish i could help :/

[ember shadow]

it's literal job is to stop spamming and it works the "Playstyle" youre referring to is spamming

[zenith ridge]

Fr

Idk the fact that non of us r having that issue should say something about you and your playstyle

[ember shadow]

take the L and use other moves use your other directional moves if it's that much of a drag to use a heavy

[swift panther]

“debating because ngl im pretty trash but me being garbage doesn't stop you from being a coping spammer”

this is the problem, you guys automatically are assuming im running into attack decay all the time, i’ve already adapted to that but that doesnt mean i cant still talk about it 😂

[ember shadow]

if youre not then why are you complaining

either you are spamming or you want to spam both are garbage

[swift panther]

all games will have spam, LMFAO, but its limiting characters when their entire moveset isnt attacks that can viably be follow ups to combos

[zenith ridge]

Yeah it seems like it comes up enough in your games that you had to talk about it which it only came in my games when I was being toxic taz

[ember shadow]

"All games have spam so let me spam" if you have the skill you say you have just rely on that then and stop crying

[zenith ridge]

So what exactly r u complaining about?

[swift panther]

me talking about it doesnt equate to me experiencing it, correlation is not causation, im just saying if the games released its gunna be addressed

[ember shadow]

you're quite literally mad that you can't use the same move 4 times in a row without consequences

[swift panther]

darby please at this point i just want to speak to meirei because youre still having a sissy fit

[zenith ridge]

Why complain if its not affecting you tho?

[lunar imp]

is it intendet that giant from space can literaly sandwitch me inbetween the ground and combo me of that 1 move 5 times ?

[ember shadow]

i went into the labs and checked 4 times unbroken causes harley attack decay using 2 other light directional moves cancels the decay

[zenith ridge]

Idk go play olimar in smash if you just want to press buttons but I think its best we keep the staling of moves so taz doesn’t get to meta knight level

[ember shadow]

literally cope harder

[swift panther]

because as ive said like 6 times now, even though im able to adapt, being limited to one playstyle on a character is DUMB, im not saying i spam, im not saying i want to spam, what im saying is there should be a different system that prevents spam but doesnt detriment characters playstyles

[zenith ridge]

It sounds like you spam

[swift panther]

am i talking to two brick walls? damn

[zenith ridge]

I think you just spam

[swift panther]

mhm

[ember shadow]

I dont spam or want spam. But the system designed to punish spam is bad because it Punishes spam?

[zenith ridge]

Logic 100

[swift panther]

yes because if i spam and constantly hit attack decay i wouldnt be rank 907 which i am 😭🤧

[ember shadow]

if you have to use the same move 4+times in a row you are spamming

[deft light]

character rank or account rank ?

[ember shadow]

I'm rank 907 listen to me cry about how this game needs to allow spam

[zenith ridge]

So whats the issue? What exactly are you upset about

[swift panther]

account, darby has seen lmfao

darby has also said “debating because ngl im pretty trash but me being garbage doesn't stop you from being a coping spammer”

[ember shadow]

its true cant lie i did see that doesn't make your statement less stupid

[zenith ridge]

I don’t get it move staling is important in every fighting game so no wobbling bs will happen

[ember shadow]

that is also straight facts

[deft light]

honestly account rank isn’t proving much rn

[zenith ridge]

The only thing different in this game is it narks on you for spamming

[swift panther]

there are so many other systems in fighting games ive played that actively prevent spam while not limiting the character and their moves to one playstyle, THIS SYSTEM, however, which i have adapted to is doing so

[swift panther]

its a constant rank even before the “current mmr broken” situation which has been brought to my attention too 🤧

[zenith ridge]

When you say “limiting the character and their moves to one playstyle” what do you mean so I can better understand what you want from the game?

[ember shadow]

its a new game of course you have to adapt to the system that doesn't make it bad. it cleans up spam Especially in lower ranks

[deft light]

still proves nothing

[zenith ridge]

Bc wouldn’t that playstyle eventually get staled as well

What playstyle even involves using one move over and over again?

Oh

[swift panther]

i always like to bring up harley since shes a starting character; allowing harley to be the combo potential character she is would be amazing while implementing a system that doesnt let her spam. but with the attack decay system she’s literally just a poke a couple hits and hope i can hit them into the floating box i set up, or side special get away since im getting close to attack decay and throw a bomb

[ember shadow]

you have to use the move 4 times consecutively to get the delay. that is not a valid strat thats spam

[zenith ridge]

She’s a tool character tho not a run up combo crazy character although she does have a good combo game

[swift panther]

it proves i have a good knowledge of the right and wrong way to play the game, and the benefits and limitations of the mechanics in the game. which is why im bringing up and voicing my opinion on the attack decay system in this new fighting game since i come from a high competitive history of fighting games

[zenith ridge]

Yet you don’t know why spamming would be bad.

[deft light]

😂

[ember shadow]

also if you use her neutral light or down light it immediately cancels the attack decay. So whats the issue?

[zenith ridge]

Especially to beginners

[swift panther]

did you not read what i said once again Darby? “side special get away since im getting close to attack decay”

[swift panther]

how many times do i have to say??? while IMPLEMENTING another SYSTEM that PREVENTS spam.

[ember shadow]

read my other reply you can continue the combo if you get creative

it what world is hitting the same move 4 times in a row consecutively not spam

[swift panther]

exactly! and thats why i believe the system benefits high attack pressure characters even though as you said yourself she had good combo game.

[swift panther]

creativity doesnt stop the god awful launching system, even i havent been able to figure out which way someone was going to go sometimes

[swift panther]

bro i swear, how many times do i have to say it

[ember shadow]

ok so its the launch system you have an issue with? not the spam prevention

[swift panther]

i think im genuinely talking to a brick wall after this one

well thank you @zenith ridge for at least getting somewhere with what i was trying to say

but its 1:17am and im going to bed didnt think i would be pestered that much for something so obviously clear the intentions behind

cant believe i had to pull the skill card either

[ember shadow]

i understand what youre trying to say. People coming to the game will default by using the same moves. that doesn't make it right and the game teaches you not to do that by punishing. youve just decided to cry about it

[ember shadow]

cope harder

[deft light]

ngl this was pretty entertaining

[swift panther]

i havent just “come to the game” i became a top percentile skill set player?? if you understand what im saying (which you clearly dont) you would hop off the fact of talking about spamming which @zenith ridge figured out ages ago

[swift panther]

and is that your factory default go to? its getting broken recordish at this point

[ember shadow]

you are saying its offputing to new players I hear you., what Im saying is that they need to learn the new system

[zenith ridge]

Ok but how do we know you didn’t get to that level of play via spamming?

[swift panther]

because the system actively punishes spam and anyone at that level will be able to beat somebody who’s constantly attack decaying

[zenith ridge]

Taz tho

[swift panther]

i know nothing of taz’s moveset besides how to fight it

[ember shadow]

This is how it should be.

[zenith ridge]

TRUUUU

[shell pasture]

Where is taz tornado cooldown to OP to spam

[frosty brook]

Gold gain...

[swift panther]

GOOD AND WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY IS

they can do that with ANOTHER SYSTEM that doesnt ALSO LIMIT a characters MOVESET AND POTENTIAL

[zenith ridge]

Fax

[ember shadow]

I dont think you spame else but i think that saying the game should allow for it to accomodate new players is stupid. It's not even that hard of a punish at low levels it's more embarrassing

[fiery ivy]

Please make trigger in character selection choose your previous character

[zenith ridge]

Truu

[primal helm]

small nitpick but the fact that theres little to no invincibility after a KO seems a bit unfair

[zenith ridge]

How do u beat taz tornado???

[crystal ferry]

Why is my fame not working???? I screen go black so the multiversus logo then it kick me out pls someone send help

[deft light]

agree

[ember shadow]

youre saying to limit spam while not stopping someone using 4 of the same move. I just dont get your point. If someone is hitting the same move 4 times unbroken punish it. that's literally it. Why you're saying that it's limiting is truly baffling.

[swift panther]

jump, bait, dodge

any one of those things. i still get hit if they use it right next to me but then i just play floaty and they dont know wtf to do then i punish

[zenith ridge]

Dodge are you sure?

[ember shadow]

What other system would you implement?

[swift panther]

dont dodge through it thats stupid

[zenith ridge]

What do u mean by bait

[swift panther]

like most other games you receive either a longer recovery frame or longer startup frame and you get punished easier

[swift panther]

Move in a way that forces them to use the tornado

[zenith ridge]

How

[swift panther]

i tend to figure out when or what causes them to use it and just fake that into a punish

[zenith ridge]

So what other fighting games do u play?

[ember shadow]

what is functionally the difference? The current system just changes the hitstun after every use and embarrasses you to everyone.

[swift panther]

and by most other games… brawlhalla… smash bros… guilty gear… mortal kombat…

[zenith ridge]

Oh.

[swift panther]

brawlhalla, tekken, mortal kombat, super smash bros, guilty gear, skull girls

[zenith ridge]

Yeah you spam

[swift panther]

?!?!?!?!!?!??!?

[ember shadow]

💀

[deft light]

😭😭

[swift panther]

aint no way you made all that progress just to pull that, bro acting like im supposed to be playing a game exactly like multiversus before this (hint it doesnt exist)

[zenith ridge]

Why did u say all of the mashy games 😭

[swift panther]

Limits.. playstyle of characters..?

[swift panther]

all the fighting games that exist?!?!? what else is there please enlighten me

[zenith ridge]

Street fighter melty blood melee aka good games

[deft light]

blazeblue

[zenith ridge]

Honestly im surprised u didn’t say fighterZ

[ember shadow]

but in what way? Wouldn't it be easier to get another move off in a system that punishes after the fact? Like would it be easier to hit the same move 5 times than in brawlhalla

[fiery ivy]

Fr

[swift panther]

i was about to say please dont say all the anime games i havent played,

forgot street fighter just completely blanked my mind but didnt find that fun but that game SUCKS with spam counter, and melty blood dead on arrival i was going to get into it, its in my library but wasnt popping enough

[swift panther]

please refer to all the messages prior where i said in what way

[swift panther]

actually never heard of blaze blue either and fighterz is- fighter z ig

[zenith ridge]

Who do u play in smash?

[deft light]

how ? wtf 🤨

[ember shadow]

but wouldn't a system that Allows you to use the same move but gives your opponent longer a faster reaction be better. Because as i'm aware the only thing the attack decay does is shorten the hitstun

[swift panther]

im very flex in smash

[deft light]

it should honestly lower the damage too

[zenith ridge]

This person doesn’t compete

Either that or uses a different tag

[swift panther]

reducing hitstun is good and all i agree it does its job like ive said before, when you have to poke a couple moves then use moves that require you to retreat or cause you to retreat without allowing a combo potential character, im going back to harley, to thrive with what theyre good at, well thats pointless to me

thats like practicing a punch 10000 times only to then kick your opponent

[mental pelican]

is it just me or is iron giant really unfun to play against?

[zenith ridge]

Knowledge check

Gotta brain

[mental pelican]

?

[halcyon sentinel]

nah he can get punished very easily

[swift panther]

And also how about this, check out the leaderboards and youll notice a pattern of characters played, ones that have a very pressure and aggressive kit because the attack decay doesnt effect them in combat as they can just go straight to another move that keeps up the pressure, while util characters get the short stick

[ember shadow]

I'm not trying to rehash or repeat I mean the genuinely. Why wouldn't you just use another move to make a combo that isn't a same buttone combo. I know a character like harley has a lot of moves that give distance but every character so far has enough moves to carry out a close range combo.

[swift panther]

i think this is a pretty solid point that just came to me lmfao

[zenith ridge]

So u do want lame characters to spam from the corner

[swift panther]

for harley thats a few moves into a retreat. so its either we address the system or people start complaining that characters are passive

[mental pelican]

hard =/= unfun

[swift panther]

Please elaborate

[zenith ridge]

U said only fast aggressive characters are good and you want that to change right?

[halcyon sentinel]

bros a combo magnet though, looks pretty fun to me ngl. also playing him/against was fun too

[ember shadow]

But for harley there's even enough variety to get a combo off where you dont retreat, I'm in the lab right now. I understand that people coming in might have that complaint but that happens when you're learning a different system

[swift panther]

pressure, large attack move kits, and they arent always “good” but the system makes them that way because it rewards being able to go from one button to another essentially while not being able to stop attacking

[mental pelican]

on smaller stages in particular certain hitboxes and massive which causes you to need to camp for a good opportunity for a combo

[zenith ridge]

So would you rather have a olimar character or a falcon character do well in the meta?

[ember shadow]

As I said previously you can combo with all of harleys light moves and never move or lose pressure it's about getting creative with the moveset. All of the characters are like this.

[swift panther]

ok but hear this out, from an average players perspective, a util character is going to get all of their maximum combo potential off and then retreat to deny attack decay, but a high pressure character is just gunna follow and continue attacking and what is that util character gunna have to do? attack back. and what does that cause? hit decay.

[swift panther]

thats the thing, smash makes it so any character can do good and theres rarely overbearing metas due to their lack of restriction in playstyle

[halcyon sentinel]

on a real note though custom games should have a FFA stock mode and a 4th player should not be needed to start a custom FFA

[devout void]

just keep applying pressure regardless of hit decay, you aren't trying to decrease their health to 0, your trying to get them into the blastzone

[deft light]

you should also get experience and coins from custom games

[zenith ridge]

No in multiversus meta what do u want

[zenith ridge]

YESSIR YES 100%

[swift panther]

At a certain point that becomes too high risk

[deft light]

maybe not as much but something

[devout void]

any more high risk than running and leaving yourself open?

[ember shadow]

I think that's just something new players coming in have to learn. I don't think the systems bad for that. I feel like a lot of the divide we have also comes from the fact you play solos. I don't think the game favors 1v1's and was built with 2v2's in mind.

[swift panther]

i want every character to be able to have a chance regardless of their kit

[ember shadow]

you can play solos obviously but thats not what the system is for

[swift panther]

yes, its either you take hits by attacking more or have a chance to not take hits

[swift panther]

on a separate note, still some of the laggiest servers ive ever seen if thats the case for 2v2 LMFAO

[halcyon sentinel]

i keep thinking this is cause 1 person has bad wifi

[swift panther]

and yes i do admit the system favors 2v2 play and as you saw by my stats i am an avid 1v1 player but thats still a little farfetched to me

[ember shadow]

I don't disagree with that at all. But I mean the game has had 2v2's recommended since the 1st alpha and has a system built for team moves.

[swift panther]

because if the hit decay mechanic is favorable in 2v2 situations (which it is and ive played enough 2’s to see that) then its creating a forced meta in 1’s

which is very apparent in leaderboards

[zenith ridge]

Bruh having a too balanced game will ultimately make the game die we need top tiers and we need low tiers

[ember shadow]

I think that's just the reality of it because the game clearly wants people to play 2's \

[swift panther]

smash… it has top tiers and low tiers but even low tiers win highest competitive tournaments…

[swift panther]

but legitimately thats why i came here because if youre gunna favor one mode dont make it so obvious

[zenith ridge]

Yep just proved my point

[halcyon sentinel]

i mean its kinda better to make it obvious so you dont waste time in the other modes

[ember shadow]

I mean I don't think it's a bad thing to favor 2's. thats what the systems built for that's what the game IS. Solo's are there as an alt option.

[swift panther]

how???

[exotic furnace]

Bro i can't theres no asia servers 😭

[swift panther]

smash is nowhere near dead and the game is probably one of the most balanced ive seen in fighting games, and it doesnt have a system where it limits playstyles leading to low tiers doing well by rewarding the people that go above and beyond to outdo the “top tiers” which is something that cant be done in multiversus. i dont think i proved any point of yours

[zenith ridge]

Bro have you seen top players play that game its so lame and it doesn’t even pay

[drifting depot]

please add asian servers :(

[exotic furnace]

Yes add asian servers :(

[drifting depot]

i'm from asia and i cant play without a vpn, and its unplayable with vpn i dont get good ping

[zenith ridge]

If there were any other smash games that weren’t sniped out by Nintendo I feel like we would all be playing it we want a smash killer

[swift panther]

???? how is that any related? and top players have received thousands of dollars

[eternal moon]

I am a keybind gremlin with a 12 button mouse. I want to be able to bind both directional and neutral attacks to buttons

[zenith ridge]

Aka 2000

[swift panther]

i dont really think you know alot about the states, mechanics, or competitive scenes of other games

[zenith ridge]

Also the fact that every character can win a major doesn’t make it very fun bc that means you are learning every matchup in the game for pennies

[zenith ridge]

How do you get that from what I said? I literally just said how much evo payed out

[ember shadow]

MeiRei you lost me too ngl I have no idea what youre talking bout right now

[swift panther]

smash summit 11 literally payed out 50k( to just the winner mind you) , evo is only pushing a 100k prize pool for multiversus cause its new

[deft light]

goodnight boys 🖤

[swift panther]

and we wont even know the state of the competitive scene after this evo

[swift panther]

and yeah thats what sucks, its just an option thatll sadly get phased out

[zenith ridge]

Bro doesn’t even play the game and is putting in a opinion 😭

[swift panther]

and no it means that youre taking full control of the kit and not being limited to one playstyle leading to some insane plays 😂

[zenith ridge]

Thats like If I talked about the competitive state of tekken

[swift panther]

what game do i not play?!?!

[zenith ridge]

You don’t compete in smash

[zenith ridge]

What??? No what

[swift panther]

just because im not a top player doesnt mean i dont play competitively 💀 i have played in tournaments for smash

[zenith ridge]

Ig Isabelle can play like joker now

[swift panther]

?!?)!! why we mixing games now????

[zenith ridge]

Pgstats says you dont so

[halcyon sentinel]

bro yall need to go to dms 💀

[zenith ridge]

JOKER FROM SMASH

[swift panther]

Ah i havent played recently 💀

[zenith ridge]

HE CAME OUT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE GAME

[swift panther]

but it means olimar or any character can either play super passive, super aggressive, and not be punished by the system

[zenith ridge]

Bro. You don’t know smash

[swift panther]

in terms of he slipped my mind not me saying he wasnt “released when i played”

[zenith ridge]

Just stop this is cringe

[swift panther]

brother you are trying to grasp your fingers on every little crevice you can find

[swift panther]

what are you looking me up by 💀💀

[zenith ridge]

Bro said you can play olimar like falcon 💀

[ember shadow]

kinda cringe on both parts now

[swift panther]

aggressive vs passive doesnt mean playing like falcon 😷🤧

aint no way you just said that

[zenith ridge]

Nah this in general was just a bad take

[swift panther]

LMFAAOAOAOAO

[ember shadow]

yall aint even talking about this game anymore

[swift panther]

you getting exposed asf and trying to make me look dumb

“aggressive means to play like falcon hehehehehe”

[zenith ridge]

💀

[halcyon sentinel]

i like how the game-feedback channel is just random false info about smash bros

[zenith ridge]

Kirbys kit tho

[swift panther]

i take it back im starting to like darby more at least he came to some senses now we see how meirei really is 💀 yeah im going to bed

aggressive means falcon… LMFAO imma remember that one that was funny

[zenith ridge]

Yeah had to say it in terms you understood

I mean I got the point across didn’t I

[swift panther]

youve never seen aggressive vs passive in your life have you
“omg dude you’re playing olimar not falcon get off me 🤓”

[swift panther]

no you got me laughing is what
you made no point and no sense

any character in smash can be played aggressively or passively and spam is still punished

[zenith ridge]

I still don’t understand what you were originally upset at so this was pointless

[ember shadow]

take it to general kids

[halcyon sentinel]

^

[zenith ridge]

Prove this

[flat bolt]

Taz is so annoying pls make it to where he has to charge yo to do his spin

[swift panther]

fight me in smash and ill show you

[flat bolt]

Up*

[halcyon sentinel]

I think its done

Add stocks option to FFA customs, also let people start customs with just 3 people

[zenith ridge]

I play steve

[oblique stream]

Why did you guys completely botch a decent progression system where you can actually earn stuff by playing by adding these exclusively gleamium based products? The fact you can spend 100 dollars on this game and cant get all of the exclusively money based content is really gross.

[halcyon sentinel]

bro the battle pass is 8 CAD what are you on about

[oblique stream]

Why should I have to fork over like 20 dollars for a Harley skin instead of having an alternative for say people with the premium battle passes and or the founders pass.

[hushed surge]

it also gives people a reason to play more and more

[midnight hull]

lol, youve spent 100 dollars for a free game that isnt fully released? you are whats wrong with gaming.

[halcyon sentinel]

yea doesnt make sense how some skins are way over price but are basically the same thing as other characters like batman is 2000 while ww is 800

[oblique stream]

I spent money on what seems to be 30 free characters for me

and some battle passes

[upper gazelle]

Yea Im a brawhalla player too, liek I said you can turn that on in the settings to make it exactly like brawlhalla itll just make it harder to do up moves. Plus in brawhalla there was also an option for a jump an look up button being diferent so same thing there

[midnight hull]

well done, youre spending money on a game that isnt fully released. you people have no footing when the game 'doesnt go the way you want it' when the developers monetize the crap out of it

[hushed surge]

this is for feedback

[halcyon sentinel]

bro stop worrying about other peoples money theres literally no point

[midnight hull]

people often complain about video games becoming RIFE with microtransactions like mobile games...this is why. and this IS feedback. stop letting people spending money before you even release your game lol.

[oblique stream]

I spent money on a game I fundamentally enjoy on a character and gameplay basis. I'm just speaking out on some gross choices I disagree with

[midnight hull]

thats fine, thats your opinion and i had mine. no ill feeling mate

[hushed surge]

bro...

[wild ravine]

We all love games

[halcyon sentinel]

yup

[oblique stream]

I feel like there should be packages of like 3 things that you can purchase with gleamium

fortnite to my knowledge does this instead of charging for icons, skins, and characters individually

[fast veldt]

no, the fact you spent 100 dollars and are still complaning is gross, its a fighting game and your complaining because you could get every single cosmetic

[mossy escarp]

iron giant makes me wanna vomit

[oblique stream]

I'm complaining because this is setting a precedent for loads of content to be put behind blatantly overpriced walls

[fast veldt]

ok but its cosmetic

why does it matter, im sure you can survive without shiny skin

[oblique stream]

yeah individual cosmetics are costing like 15 bucks. thats insane

[torn sluice]

so dont buy them

[oblique stream]

why are you pushing back against this? its literally content we as an entire community are being scalped out of

[fast veldt]

no were not, its cosmetic, you dont have to buy it

if its too much for you, don't buy it

[torn sluice]

if you think the cosmetics are overpriced and not worth the money, dont buy them?? 😭 cmon yall look at all the content we're already getting

[oblique stream]

did we forget the part where its being used to buy characters? they could literally paywall a character this way

[fast veldt]

people always gotta find something to complain about, if its not the actual game, the cosmetics that give no advantage are just too much to handle

[keen pivot]

While I understand the criticism for overpriced cosmetics, in the end they are cosmetics and fluff stuff that doesn't impact gameplay at all, so it's normal that people who only care about being able to play for free with all chars won't mind

[upper gazelle]

Okay I get your point, but also not buying it is the only way their price is gonna go down. I dont think anyone here wouldnt enjoy cosmetics costing less or all being earnable, and I get your pint of I've spendt a lot of money and still dont have vertything but you shouldnt put a price tag on it. Why is 100€ too much? Is that where you draw the line? I dont think we should even be deciding that

[torn sluice]

it's so easy to grind for them what ??

[fast veldt]

you can use coins, you earn coins, im so down to earn coins to buy characters, gives a sense of achievment, if you dont want to do that, buy them

[oblique stream]

you can use coins for the characters right now

but have they said its gonna remain that way in all cases

[torn sluice]

what are u even saying rn LOL\

[fast veldt]

so your argument is, it might become payed? bro stfu

[torn sluice]

LMAO

[fast veldt]

bro's whole argument now is talking about things that havent even happened

[oblique stream]

yeah and whats gonna happen if that does happen

[fast veldt]

guys im not playing because one day they might make the game only run on 10fps, they havent said they wont, have they?

[keen pivot]

Charging real money only for characters would be shooting themselves in the foot so it's highly unlikely.

[torn sluice]

HELP

[oblique stream]

this is a fallacy.

[fast veldt]

so is what youre saying

youre getting upset because in the future they might make skins payed only? thats the same as me getting upset cause they might lock the game at 10fps

youre a funny man, get over yourself tho, making yourself looking hella silly

[oblique stream]

not really because it blatantly on the gleamium purchase screen says its used to buy characters and not purely serves as an alternative to using coins

[torn sluice]

i seriously doubt theyre gonna put them behind a paywall cmon now. like chill out and enjoy the game

[acoustic sail]

add sea please.

[oblique stream]

this isn't the future, they are literally doing that now.

[torn sluice]

??

[oblique stream]

actual dumbass take.

[fast veldt]

im just gonna leave this here cause this guy is desperately searching for something to complain about and its getting sad, have a nice life bro <3

[oblique stream]

aight have fun going 0-2 at your local

[fast veldt]

dont get angy, it only game x

[torn sluice]

HELP

[fast veldt]

why so mad, it just game, is it that the $100 didn't make you any better? is this why youre angy?

[torn sluice]

man didnt get enough cosmetics

</33

[oblique stream]

The fact the founders pass (a 100 dollar pass) could literally only afford maybe like 2 skins is insane. You guys are actually defending some gross behavior but hey have fun sucking down that publisher meat bro.

[sturdy imp]

3 battle passes but alright dude

[torn sluice]

hey man im not the one who spent $100 on a free to play game

i dont plan on spending a single dime, im having a great time tbh

u have fun with your 3 battle passes though!!

[oblique stream]

I'm happy with the stuff I got but im frustrated by the fact that this is going to be a thing I will have to deal with if I see a skin or alt repping a character I enjoy

I don't see how defending behavior on behalf of the publishers that benefit from this helps you in any way

[keen pivot]

Defending it would be saying that the price is worth, it's not and the solution is not buying it

But if you do, it's your money.

[oblique stream]

I've given the game praise where it's due, and even financially supported the game but I wanna call out some gross behavior when it pops up for the better of players as a whole. I would recommend others do the same.

[torn sluice]

alr bro 😭 yall have fun with all your cosmetics

[oblique stream]

Have fun dealing with me hitting you with the "I told you so" when you have to shill out 20 dollars of gleamium for an exclusive broken character

[torn sluice]

never gonna happen ‼️

[frosty brook]

you should get a large gold reward if you beat every daily mission since it's so hard to grind gold

[oblique stream]

cope

[sturdy imp]

hey, gigachad!

[loud stone]

Matchmaking kinda cursed ngl

[maiden reef]

it doesntm atter if its optional if it's still a rip off

it's still terrible practice, just cause it's optional doesn't give it a free pass

[loud stone]

im level 1 as batman and just got matched against a level 9 garnet :|

[sly relic]

play iron giant, as long as you dont jump off the edge that dude is NOT going down

[loud stone]

will unlock him next then

[oblique stream]

Ah yes, I'm just gonna quit a game because I disagree with a practice. Really will show them devs huh

[maiden reef]

I'm still playing the game, I just think it's bad practice but I guess free thinking is not allowed here

[oblique stream]

Apparently not

[maiden reef]

must be a sheep for everything

[oblique stream]

You must lick the warner bros taint or die

[maiden reef]

also DMing me to call me a dumb c**** really classy

[torn sluice]

tf who did that/

[maiden reef]

mitsuo

[torn sluice]

😨 😨

[frosty brook]

buff gold gain i got 17 coins for 2 rounds that we won

[sturdy imp]

yes giga

[frosty brook]

yes

[oblique stream]

I've given suggestions. I think the individual cosmetics should go and instead be replaced with cosmetic packs. Do something like include a skin, a ringout, and a banner in a package. I think that is a lot more fair and in line with other services provided in games like fortnite and such.

<@&882349260409032746> I have also just received some pretty vile dms from mitsuo

oh nvm lmao, thanks for getting him.

[bitter plume]

Neft taz tornado, is impossible block the attack

[loud stone]

yeah matchmaking in 1v1 is god awful im getting the sweatiest enemies ever

[safe bay]

It seems like there are voice lines at the end of the match that seem to get cut off all the time?

[stuck drift]

nerf jake

[torn sluice]

pleasee make it easier to grind the bp and obtain coins 🙏 🙏 good lord how is anyone supposed to finish this

[oblique stream]

stop complaining 😉

[robust pelican]

can't buy the founders pack, says it's unavailable in my region

[oblique stream]

just enjoy the game

[torn sluice]

this isnt the stuff thats behind a paywall lmfao 😭

[oblique stream]

yet

[torn sluice]

dawg

[stuck drift]

same

[torn sluice]

LOL

[loud stone]

welcome to free to play games

[torn sluice]

k

[hybrid pine]

hello, i cant complete the starter mission of the settings. anyone can help me?

[drifting depot]

guys please add asian servers

[agile marlin]

I feel like 2v2 could use some improvement. When you lose all your lifes, you shouldnt insta lose, instead there should be a chance for your partner to 2v1 instead.

[plain compass]

I got to lvl 6 in the battlepass doing 6 dailies. Just be patient and grind the BP challenges.

[azure dagger]

A lot of folks would appreciate the ability to play the way they want to, not the way the dailies dictate. Just saying.

[hushed cliff]

I can’t even do those challenges because my starter mission “check out the settings” is bugged

[plain compass]

F

[hushed cliff]

It just doesn’t want to complete 😭

[rustic adder]

do you have to level everyone to 13 to unlock all perks?

[errant iron]

having playstation button prompts would be nice on steam

[vagrant otter]

Taz is literally the worst character in the game currently. I just had a match with someone that spammed his tornado attack wich kept hard-locking me. Even with the attack decay he still managed to get enough damage to knock me back. Attack should have a cooldown in my opinion

[daring dagger]

honestly should add flash as a character in this fine game i think he would be a fantastic implementation

[tender jungle]

Can't wait for balance changes already 😍

[sacred brook]

Y'know fighting bugs bunny is the same thing as fighting an omnipotent god

[hardy crown]

anyone elses game lag really badly spike during the match sometimes? like im fine most of the time but sometimes ill suddenly start teleporting around the map dealing and taking damage without knowing whats happening for a few seconds and my internet is find on everything else at the same time like its only the game thats lagging

[cedar ridge]

yes that happens to me aswell

[meager plover]

buff taz then game is perfect

[wet grail]

what does toasts give?

[karmic bough]

make taz tornado not snuffer from attack decay

[cedar ridge]

gold

you can gift it to other players after a match

[tender jungle]

Yes, sometimes I can't jump back up after being pushed from the edge too

[lunar delta]

#character-wishlist

[wet grail]

but what happens if i buy 10x toasts with gold?

[cedar ridge]

you can give away 10 toasts to other players

i personally wouldnt recommend buying toasts

[wet grail]

useless feature in game

[toxic helm]

Why am I matching up with bots on 2v2

[mortal pike]

Anyone knows how to fix 'the item you are looking for is unavailable' ty

[limpid coral]

Taz need some changes, only one cancer attack

[elfin holly]

Feel like you need to get more gold for winning and playing a match, the amount given currently is way too low

[eternal moon]

Agreed, they should increase It to like 75

[drifting ingot]

Nerf shaggy

[faint fiber]

or more coin challenges

[glass iris]

Shaggy isn’t even broken 😭

[vagrant crow]

Gold grind is waaay too slow

[glass iris]

I actually kinda agree

[vagrant crow]

Some of the skins and the ring outs (especially the latter) need a price drop too. The gold prices for the characters are fair and I’m surprised that they weren’t increased dramatically (Tom and Jerry aside) from the test, but there should be a happy medium between the current gold payouts and the test gold payouts

[echo matrix]

Is it just me or does Jake up special drop frames on PS4?

[vagrant crow]

Also I’m not sure how to describe this bug but online play seems to literally roll back occasionally. Characters movements occasionally rewind a lot during online play, not sure how to describe it otherwise

[sullen veldt]

Fern Voice Acting

[zinc rain]

Nerf Taz

[violet brook]

nerf iron giant

nerf taz tornado spamming and iron giant in general

[uncut dome]

Anyone keeps getting disconnected from matches or is it my internet?

[tender wind]

Taz need less knock back on his spin

[solid gust]

The game is too grindy, trying to unlock the characters has left a bad taste in my mouth

It will become even more of a problem when more characters get introduced, itll be a lot harder to convince people to stick with the game for the long run because of how grindy it is

[eternal moon]

Hopefully there will be a solution

[solid gust]

I hope so, I absolutely love the game but I cant see myself sticking with it for long if I have to grind so much to unlock characters, convincing my friends to play the game after more than a couple of days will be impossible

[maiden reef]

Perks costing coins on top of characters is too much.

[eternal moon]

This is still the early access period of the open beta, so there plenty of time to work out improvements for the game and collect player feedback.

I’m just so excited to see who else will be part of this game.

I had a blast playing as Wonder Woman and Taz especially.

[solid gust]

Absolutely, I wasnt expecting it to be as fast as it was in the alpha but they slowed it down way too much, games like Fortnite and Warzone are so successful and addictive because you can just jump in and play, people dont mind to pay for Battle Passes and skins because they have easy access to everything else.

[eternal moon]

Well, it’s a good thing the developers of MultiVersus are incredibly passionate and engaging with players. Feedback is always welcome.

[solid gust]

Yep, I hope that they take this criticism to heart, the monetization can often make or break a F2P game

[exotic furnace]

please have asia servers ASAP

[eternal moon]

When the game gets it’s finalized version, hopefully they can find the perfect balance between not so fast and not so slow.

[white pecan]

I think it would be cool if super man had a little flight, kinda like The Iron Giant