game-feedback

[patent halo]

I've been waiting 2000 seconds for event q to start and can't complete my quest

[stiff nest]

I don't like the Water Tower map, it's very unfair for Iron Giant. any time the door opens I get stuck. can we just like, keep the door locked at all times

[oblique quiver]

Same

[loud herald]

FIX FREE FOR ALL AND 2V2 BEFORE THE BATTLE PASS ENDS

[eternal moon]

@slate jetty yeah Harley damage be up to 200 something when they is on red u do hammer swing it doesn't killed them most of the time

I literary chrage it to the max

[slate jetty]

she is mainly a vertical character...that is horizontal
try moves that go up and stop relying on the neutral attack hammer to kill

[stiff nest]

yo, why y'all shadow ban me from playing non-ranked matchmaking? my friend is master V and I'm bronze 1. game works perfectly fine there and I can compete as Iron Giant at that level, but why don't ya'll let me play what I want to play

[sonic folio]

theres servers issues, not banned

[loud herald]

Are you guys going to acknowledge the ranked FFA and 2v2's being broken and unable to get a match; just infinite queue time? I haven't gotten the quests done today, and I find it insane that today of all days; it becomes impossible to do them, especially FFA. Are you guys going to extend the Season or something for a day or two?

[grizzled bane]

Go for mix-ups. Don't rely on hammer. You'll get predictable. Harley Quinn is a top 5 character right now and needing to say she needs buffs is, politely, a skill issue ngl

[cosmic blaze]

First of all, I want to congratulate you on your effort and all the new content you're bringing to the game in your attempts to improve it. I haven't tried the update yet, but based on your announcements, it seems like it should go well.

That said, as a player who owns all the characters, and therefore is unaffected by the changes to character acquisition, I see a concerning aspect: the experience for new players. If this game attracts new players, I understand it's mostly due to the hype around new characters, since most casual players—who make up the majority—aren't very familiar with the game mechanics and are more guided by how the game feels.

I mean this as constructive criticism because I doubt that players who have been playing for a while and already have many characters will notice. But from my perspective, I believe you're likely to drive away any potential new players who might be interested in the game after hearing about a new character, only to find out they can't play it without completing the entire game. If I were in that position, I’d uninstall the game and never look back, especially since as a free-to-play player, it would take me six months to a year to catch up. I understand the sales strategy, but from my point of view, I don't think it's going to help you in the long run.

[eternal moon]

@grizzled bane I was saying her spaciel needs a buff it is really slow coming out.u see in the movies and the TV show Season dose it instantly instead of the glove give her bullet

[sonic folio]

stop comparing tv shows/movies/etc to this game, its a completely different medium and things like that are done for balancing purposes. multiple people have told you how good harley is. You really need to learn to adapt to her kit, the things you are asking for her will make her extremely overpowered and will be nerfed back to how it is

[cosmic blaze]

Also make it 60 and put all characters, old and newcomers, this game should cash on skins, ringouts and emotes.

[eternal moon]

@sonic folio like some characters in multiverses they overpower i know she good that is whybi play with her she just need a little update for some of these cheating characters they already have but they is still making update on theme right

Rank match u have a lot of people that like to spam in run

[sonic folio]

then those characters need to be nerfed, not the other way around, that makes things worse

[cyan patrol]

toasting was removed? Just played a set of 10 2v2s and at the end toasting wasn't even and option

[loud herald]

been doin norms and its nothin but bots lmao

[sonic folio]

not really, maybe it was bots

[cyan patrol]

it shouldn't have been, it was regular 2v2

[sonic folio]

there is server issues, the game is weird at the moment, might be because of the new season tomorrow

ffa is straight up not working

[cyan patrol]

oof

[inner jetty]

I don’t know if this is a bug or nobody is playing Free For All mode, but I just had a 1000 second long queue and didn’t get into the game.

[slate jetty]

server issues

[stiff nest]

oh ok, my bad then. I was saying 'cuz my friend was able to but I wasn't

[sonic folio]

dont worry, i know it can be frustrating

[marble wren]

yeah im having the same issue

[grizzled bane]

W pfp btw

[slate jetty]

The day before next season...could be people trying to complete the pass before times up thats overloading servers maybe

[slate jetty]

thanks

I may be uncultured, whats yours from? lol

[heady agate]

PFG NERF MORTY Before Season 4, PLEASE! and this entire Moveset as well. Morty mains are certified Mashers, they need to be Stop at all Costs!!! Reduce the knockback and Damage of Grenades to 5% or 4% and make Dirt a 14 second Cooldown Move so you don’t spam it all the time. Reduce Down Air and Up Air’s Damage, Hitbox and Knockback by ALOT!!! Make F-air a one hit attack instead of a 2 parter so ANNOYING!

[grizzled bane]

A picture my GF commissioned of Sephiroth with some personal features of myself added (glasses, brown hair highlights)

[slate jetty]

oooh, welp Sephiroth is another of my favorite characters too

kinda feel...like a fake fan not really recognizing it, interesting additions/changes though xD

[grizzled bane]

You want PFG to nerf Morty before tomorrow? You do realize that if they nerf Morty, they would do it tomorrow instead, right?

[slate jetty]

@grizzled bane to clarify I like it (sorry if it didnt sound like it)

[grizzled bane]

Sephiroth is my all time favorite character :)

Nah, you wouldn't be a fake fan. Anyone who knows Sephiroth probably wouldn't think a small image of a guy with glasses would be Sephiroth without looking closer lol

[grizzled bane]

I know lol, you're good 👍

[slate jetty]

👍

[heady agate]

I’m talking about before preparation of Season 4 beside you just Nerf some things on Morty’s Kit and bam done besides Morty DESERVES to be VERY Bottom tier for what his mains have done to the game and igniting rage on players, pro and casual.

[grizzled bane]

You do realize that they'll balance him with the rest of the cast and not just say "you know what, we're going to focus on you first and deal with the rest later"

[slate jetty]

I mean......they kinda have done that before

[grizzled bane]

Oh?

[heady agate]

All I care about is that they nerf the most Mashy and Overused moves Morty mains then I’ll be happy. Have Dirt be a 15 Second cooldown move

[slate jetty]

they are pretty bad about being fair

[heady agate]

Morty Mains need to Be Quiet and play like a Human Being for 5 MINUTES!!!

[slate jetty]

if you need an example... batmans birthday (Batman 85 event) they buffed the hell out of batman and only him really

[inland folio]

Whatre we thinking of the new combat changes?

[slate jetty]

regardless, I'd rather Banana Guard players and Shaggy players play like humans for 5 minutes instead. Morty players actually learned the character to be good while many of those people learned 1 button

[heady agate]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[slate jetty]

idk about the speed stuff yet (fast fall and running havent felt it yet) but shields yes

[slate jetty]

just curious...you ever play morty?

[heady agate]

Yes and I’m sorta trash as him

[inland folio]

Personally Im so hyped to see it! It'll have more expression and combo routes. Hopefully more aggression!

[slate jetty]

thats because you need to learn the timing for his moves to actually make use of him. I'm trash with him too

[ionic furnace]

He is so OP that you can't play him properly?

[stiff nest]

only affects grounded movement speed, no? it's okish. when combined with shields it might make it decent

[slate jetty]

they changed jump flow and fast falling

[inland folio]

We also got fast falling and short hops

[slate jetty]

^

[inland folio]

Pretty big changes!

It'll slightly add to the skill ceiling to the game and make the movement smoother

Potentially!

[stiff nest]

yeah, i've heard. it's something. i'm just unsure who gets the most out of short hops

[broken basalt]

960 prestige points for raven elusive skin...

[heady agate]

Zzzz zzzz

[heady agate]

I Can’t wait for The Bugs Bunny Nerfs Tomorrow cause I finally won’t have to deal with the stupid combos!!!!!!

[foggy ether]

Look y'all... Listen.. LISTEN.
I LOVE JASON.
BUT

PLEASE nerf that grab hitbox. I get grabbed like 2-3 character spaces away not to mention it has armor.

[foggy ether]

Anyone thinking Superman needs a buff is on crack

[junior surge]

Does anyone know if the game will ever shut down

[foggy ether]

Yes tomorrow morning

Jack literally has no guarantee combo kill

TnJ can kill by simply doing paddle into up air. Just like Morty ground into up air. And so many others….
Jack?
Nope. NOPE

[foggy ether]

Looking forward to the speed buff I've been wanting that since launch.

[viral hearth]

make the game good

[drowsy leaf]

Why do you hate Jake the Dog so much

[frank chasm]

Why did you nerf gizmo AGAIN and then BUFF SAMURAI JACK?!? WVERYONE WAS SAYING TO NERF HIM 😭😭😭

[mossy hill]

Velma mains: first time?

[charred blade]

Fight Road is so dumb So what do we get to spend fighter currency on, its obsolete now

32k Fighter currency and now ill never be able to spend it, such a dumb pointless currency especially with fighter road to get them free

Praying we get gifting so i can spend it through there

[charred blade]

Have you played Jack? 😂😂😂

Elbow rush, kick up and spam your little sword which is almost unbreakable before patch , one of the easiest low dmg kills you can do and with it being Jack

Not to mention you can aim your sword run

[drowsy leaf]

You can still use it as is but they are retiring being able to get more of it (outside of special circumstances I guess) in place of the Fighters Road thing, for some reason....

[mossy hill]

@charred blade he is jack main but always complained jack over nerfed

While us velma main still crying get shafted by every single patch

[errant wing]

if theyre going to give event-related stuff on the battlepass, it shouldnt be skins. it should be currency. im never going to use any of the black adam skins ive gotten (from like EVERY battlepass - can you please rotate the characters you give skins to 💀) but especially not the trigon one??? i dont know everyone whos getting a trigon skin, but id like to look through them and pick one of my own accord. it admittedly feels kind of cheap to offer a skin somebody could choose to buy instead of making a unique skin for the battlepass, which is what i think battlepass skins should be. and then maybe replace gem xp or something with different event currencies - people would love it a lot more and be more incentivized to purchase

[copper veldt]

Beta was clearly better now this is just a stupd sh** game worse than smash bros 64

and i really hate brawlhalla but bro this is a better game than that dog sht right now

EVERYTHING IN BETA WAS BETTER

WHY DID YOU RUIN THIS GAME

[indigo pendant]

SO MUCH OF THIS! ALL OF THIS!

[latent crescent]

Can a tag be added to character skins that say if there are new voice lines, vo, animations, etc?

[viral echo]

I just logged back in and it automatically froze again

[umbral elm]

they just play like they are playing DbD instead of a fighting game lol

[pine bluff]

None of Finn's attacks except air side attack are making any sounds

[umbral elm]

they only run and not fight in a fighting game

[umbral elm]

#bug-reporting

[clever bough]

Raven should be purchasable day one with figther tickets right? Only gives me the 9.99 option

[sturdy dagger]

Bugs swings his hammer in a full circle, neutral attack should hit behind him.

It's visually shows that

[sand drift]

How dare you take my 12 character tickets an give me steven universe someone i was AVOIDING because I didn't want to play with him. I spent my money on this game to support it because how much I enjoyed the beta. I WAS SAVING THE TICKETS FOR PEOPLE I WANTED UPON RELEASE?! I will stream this to the world if you do not give back my 12 fighter tickets/character that i BOUGHT! NOT EVEN A WARNING EITHER ON THE GAME?! I love this game but I'm disgusted on how you could rob your player base especially the OG'S!! I WAS HERE DAY 1:(

[distant sluice]

Is there a possibility to get the skip button at the end of matches for progress. Having to click through all of these is kind of cumbersome.

[sonic folio]

day 3

[upper aspen]

lag again, like any begginnig of season

[pine swallow]

i love it thats your internet bro

[upper aspen]

nope, thats not my internet

[pine swallow]

it is

100%

or your enemys

[upper aspen]

every game with 1 MS

max 60

[pine swallow]

so the lag is just there how does that make sense?

think bro

[upper aspen]

every first days in new season the same thing

[pine swallow]

ok buddy

[clever bough]

nope, just need to gto to the store

gives the ticket option there

found it

its not from the char select screen

[gusty hearth]

Ngl Ravens ass

Also why did yall make nubia worse😭

She was already arguably the worst character in the game

[stuck sable]

Wow, you actually made some of velma's attacks faster. I don't know why you didn'twrite it in the patch notes but I appreciate it none the less

[raw chasm]

Soo the french translation for "Collateral Damage" perk is really bad, plz fix it's bad translated and mean something else

And also, where is the french voice for Raven ): why do she speak english only

[summer walrus]

I don't know if this should be in Feedback but at Tier 23 there is an already own Item "Harley Total Damage Dealt Badge" that was in Season 2's Battlepass

[sturdy dagger]

I've been looking at Bugs in his black sunglasses on the game menus for a while. Can you actually make it selectable?

[twin river]

The introduction of short-hops has somehow made IG aerial movement feel really clunky. I'm not sure how yet but he feels very wonky in the air, and his aerial dodges feel poor.
It's like he's still in S3 while everyone else is in S4

[ionic furnace]

lmao thats weird

if you have twitter i would def suggest tweeting this at them, i think thats something they would want to fix soon

[upper aspen]

when the hell they gonna remove the hit with lag effect? why the lag is a mechanic?

[golden prawn]

The current system punishes people who were hyped and excited to play on patch day. Since Fighter Road XP immediately turns into Battlepass XP even though the playable character people would be excited to unlock hasn't released yet people will be losing out on progression towards the newest character. This is going to result in players, like me, simply choosing not to play for several days. This will in turn suppress player count for this patch/season drop even though players like me who are choosing not to play were very hyped for this new release. This is shooting your own statistics in the foot so even if you don't want to change this system PLEASE at least consider this when looking at player analytics so it can't just be called a "bad" or "low interest" patch when the systems in place surrounding it just disincentivizes invested and enfranchised players from engaging on patch day for like a full week.

[upper aspen]

they need to delete the 4 days to wait new character

[ionic furnace]

people buying raven will make a lot more money than the people who will not want to play for now because of fighter road xp

its unfortunate, but the 3 day "early access" works really well

[light salmon]

ruined ppg, nice work

[pearl storm]

Sad cuz no more stale combo?

[light salmon]

sad cause useless

[pearl storm]

Maybe try to actually understand the character and develop combos other than grab+up normal

[light salmon]

all they needed was heavy whif windows on nair and dash

[pearl storm]

Here's some real feedback: I'm halfway through Fighter Road and already its asking me for 15k FR XP when the most You can get is about 500 per milestone. This is laughable, PFG

[light salmon]

ill just play wonder woman with a blind fold on ig

[pearl storm]

Dude, I'm sure the professional Game Designers took the right decision when nerfing PPG

Also, they needed to make Nidia and Raven shone more

Shine*

Gotta get those microtransactions!

It's the same model as League of Legends

Flavor of the month is OP

Then patched

[light salmon]

everyones op in this gasme

thats the beauty of it

[pearl storm]

Then why complain about PPG then? Lol

[light salmon]

cause now they are ass

[pearl storm]

Skill issue

[light salmon]

and everyone else gets to stay op

skill issue was ppl not ding out of ppg combo

making it look absurd

[ionic furnace]

you get about 100 per won match, its designed to be a grind

[pearl storm]

I know it's designed to get grindy, but not "play for 8 hours straight" grindy

Hero currency was easier to grind

[ionic furnace]

i already figured it would be a worse system overall 😭

i really dislike you cant choose what character you want to grind for

[pine bluff]

I get hit while behind Velma every time she does a jab attack

Just had my first crash of the patch while looking at a samurai jack using the new skin

[patent halo]

Crashed during arena, now I"m stuck authenticating game

[ionic furnace]

seems like the servers crashed

[stuck sable]

Ah, same

[slate jetty]

oh...this does not bode well

[sonic folio]

welp

[ionic furnace]

i thought your pfp was big chungus for a minute

[sturdy dagger]

I crashed on 6th-ish match

[patent halo]

LOL..... it's a ptarmigan

[slate jetty]

every season...every season....the same thing

and in this one, 2 BPs! half the time for each....with these issues

[sonic folio]

its actually around the same time ish, you can miss a little less missions compared to the previous season, but if you do all missions you should be able to get everything

[slate jetty]

I mean I should be fine with the BP, I always do all the dailies and weeklies, and play a lot unless I just cant handle the people I run into that day.... (but I see it in the view of others more)

and if its true about the casual queue actually giving BP like you said, even easier >.>

[sonic folio]

eh i get it, i mainly focus on dailies as weeklies just get completed naturally, so it should be just a few minutes to complete per day

[sonic folio]

lol told ya! but yeah if you get a skin is so much quicker to do pretty much anything

thats why ive been doin casual since it came out whenever i get some little time to farm

[proper solar]

servers died : /

[sonic folio]

specially if i get a bot as a partner, as it makes it even easier/faster to get points, since theyll never leave and you get to play indefinitely

i still think we should able to play 1v1 casual for missions/getting xp

[slate jetty]

I may have to do casual because I have been cursed to run into spammers or sweats (pros in most cases) every match in the previous season...probably because those people were the only ones left playing the game

[olive estuary]

yeah, can't log in here with Epic Games =/

[slate jetty]

@sonic folio can you let me know when the servers are back up

[sonic folio]

it might be a server issue, id say be back in a few

[slate jetty]

i'll be doing other stuff

[sonic folio]

oh me too sorry haha

laptop needs to cool lol

[olive estuary]

[slate jetty]

lol ok, no problem

[cyan patrol]

Yeah doesn't seem to be working for me via steam either

[olive estuary]

They are asking why they lost US$ 100 000 000 with this game

[cyan patrol]

Because they pushed mediocre event content and microtransactions instead of focusing on the core game

And they seem to have zero quality assurance people testing anything because every patch has blatant issues that anyone testing the game would have found

[olive estuary]

I bet on bad netcode - lagging a lot - if you can't play you can't pay lol

[cyan patrol]

Exactly

[olive estuary]

I think the few that are here are because of the characters the game has

[valid ginkgo]

Make a arena lfg chat

[prime glacier]

I can always count on having to wait hours to get on the game due to mediocre servers😃👍🏽

[olive estuary]

While you hire based on minority,
you lose talents and lost a lot of the quality
The Wizard, Daffy Duck

🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 Tem algum brazuca aqui? 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷

[fair scarab]

The game is not working right now. What’s the ETA on a fix please? Would like to buy Raven and play the game.

[keen obsidian]

Hey PFG, I just saw the announcement of maintenance mode right now and I just want to say this;

No hurry, just take your time.

[proper solar]

they're on Maintenance Mode again

[upper wing]

using raven downspecial at all even without the perk just disconnects you now

[stone ermine]

With today patch notes
I think the whole community must apologize to IGN

[vagrant perch]

Never

[twin river]

The short hops have enabled Harley to have a side air mini-infinite, with ground techs.

Also, the post-game screens are a bit egregious now. In order for me to get back into a game, I have to go past a Ranked results screen, a Battlepass progress screen, an Events screen, and a Mastery screen, just to toast my opponent.

Can we streamline these screens? I'm mashing A through 5 screens jsut to play again

[sterile frigate]

@stone ermine for what?

[upper aspen]

ban shaggy from ranked really unfair, tiny hurthbox too much damage speed and mid resistance, he is more like an assasin

[stiff nest]

it seems like y'all are being really tough on Iron Giant. I still think he could use at least one buff in his kit (more fuel). the new changes to some of the perks made him a lot easier to be relevant vs. projectiles, but it's not something that's unique for himself

[olive estuary]

Really? Try to know his moves, you'll know it is slow and if he fail you can punish him.

[upper aspen]

if he fail he jump and do the fast kicks, or other attack because his cooldown is so fast

[slender bear]

is the battle pass really that good seems like a downgrade since u also dont get the charackter

[upper aspen]

if you see the gleamiums its great because you can buy the next to complete the real bp like the others seasons. and the infinite levels easyer to get

[foggy saddle]

The target mission on the new rift is bugged when trying to do the mission with a another player

[zealous lion]

Rifts are not giving fighter road xp. This MUST be a bug because this would be CRAZY that the most casual frendly mode not give ANYTHING

[timid steeple]

Rifts not giving battlepass xp anymore period is crazy, now you only get 10xp per challenge and that’s it. So good luck leveling up gems and still getting battlepass xp………

[zealous lion]

I would understand less battlepass xp, but fighter road it MUST be 100% xp, as Rifts are THE place for noobs to learn the rules of the game in a "safe place", specially since nothing explains to noobs that Casual queues are against bots

or maybe it is bugged because free for all is also not giving fighter road xp

[heady agate]

Who reset my Fighters’ levels?!

[kindred stratus]

Whenever that happens with one or two of my characters, I would just log out and log back in again

[timid steeple]

Not really when on looney difficulty you get smoked by a three hit combo…… actually made sense to have xp gain if you wanted to level up the gems and didn’t have time to balance between arcade and online play while working irl……

[steel spear]

So since they removed fighter currency and I had 6k saved up, I just get no compensation and I'm screwed out of potentially having 2 more characters. Is this correct?

For lack of a better phrase, I feel slighted.

[zealous lion]

they rounded the amount up

you can still use fighter currency @steel spear

[heady agate]

NERF BatMan, I Hate the Jab jab Batarang x2 combo. Any player who mains Batman needs to Get a life for doing that combo on everyone you battle against. The Combo needs to only be active once

[brazen forge]

The same thing happened to me, I had around 20k, if I knew this I would have spent it all. I see the current progress very slow to unlock new fighters

[zealous lion]

you can still do this, go to the fighter store, buying characters on the character selection is bugged now

[buoyant pine]

have been trying to complete an Arena, but it's impossible with the game crashing randomly

[sonic folio]

its not gone

[tall elm]

Make the game faster pls don't be scared to up the speed. Make joker way faster imo. Double the XP you get for fighter road PERMANENTLY 15 per match up to 15k? That's 100 matches. For 1 character.

[brazen forge]

I just saw it (I still have the 21k tokens), but when I try to buy one the game freezes. Thanks for help by the way

[zealous lion]

first days of update are always more unstable =/

[tall elm]

Give back LeBron aoe on his down attack otherwise it's useless (didn't mean to reply)

[brazen forge]

Yeah, thats true. I will try again tomorrow

[vale basalt]

I just noticed that you can now wait a matchmaking in the training mode, that's neat

[gentle zinc]

Why did ya'll get rid of my fighter tickets? Correction they didn't remove them they're just hidden to make you spend. Go to the fighter store and they show up there to be used

[cyan patrol]

When arena mode crashes the game after you've already played over a dozen rounds...

Though I'm honestly impressed it lasted that long

[light salmon]

wtf are these menus

[viscid shoal]

Everything is perfect but I want different menu music please

[autumn estuary]

what is your obsession with making sure at least one of Finn's moves is completely useless at all times 💀

[simple lotus]

I see they don't actually want this game to succeed

[autumn estuary]

TONY YOU CLOWN YOU LIED TO ME BMO DOES NOT BREAK ARMOR LIKE THE PATCH NOTES SAID LOL DEDGAME

[mossy hill]

Tbf they already nerf sht load of character

Even batman got more nerfs

[foggy ether]

I've played him more than you

[charred blade]

Then shut up about a change when hes literally one of the more OP people if you know how to play him, can under 100dmg ppl very quick with jack and with not alot of practice, kinda needed a nerf

[mossy hill]

@charred blade meanwhile us velma main still waiting for god damn buffs

Even tho camilaw is top 1 velma, that doesnt mean she is crazy good

[charred blade]

Fair enough alot of people can be changed, for better or worse

Just kinda hard whrn some people only press 1 button like its tekken

[mossy hill]

By i mean the character

Not cam

Cam is good but the character still dog water

[charred blade]

So its hard to balance, and fair lol

[mossy hill]

Lmao insert eddie spam triangle

🤣🤣🤣

[stoic plank]

gentlemen

[mossy hill]

Yes?

Problem with velma is

She has really bad aggro moves

Cuz slow start up

Unlike bugs

Have really good agro moves

[stoic plank]

joker's air neutral special (the flower squirt that breaks armor) no longer consumes the meter used between itself and the chattering teeth grounded move

which means if he has his "ha ha" bar fully charged his air neutral special will constantly be max range and knockback. you can just spam it. constantly.

it is absurd

avoid all joker mains right now

[charred blade]

https://tenor.com/view/marlon-webb-but-i-got-a-watermalon-instead-but-i-got-a-watermelon-instead-watermelon-watermelon-helmet-gif-21653567

[gentle zinc]

Fix Jason's down air it is wayyy worse. The active frame being moved forward or whatever broke the move. The hitbox update just makes it 10 times worse I've had way more ghost hits in these few hrs than ever

[misty tinsel]

Consider lowering the grind on Fighter's road or letting players select who they wanna progress towards. New players have no reason to start playing the game when a new character comes out because they will have to grind through the whole roster

[gentle zinc]

Also loops are still doable on bigger characters. Marvin looped me while I'm Jason and I couldn't do anything about it. Just make the ground tech and option because as it is now it DOES NOT stop loops it just MAKES IT WORSE. Making the tech actually take skill would mean something but nobody in their right mind would tech outside of high percentages.

[pastel remnant]

PLEASE add a DEDICATED short hop button like Rivals of Aether, for those who want more control over their characters.

[indigo pendant]

I understand the concept of Fighter’s Road but I think its execution fails tremendously since you can’t actually choose who you unlock. While this is just a little annoying to someone who has the whole cast like me, as I just need to do an incredibly long grind to unlock the newest character that drops, new players are likely joining during new seasons FOR the new characters introduced. I think it’s incredibly punishing for them to have to do a long grind through the entire roster before they get to unlock the character they actually downloaded the game for. Fighter Road’s grind either needs to be reduced dramatically, or you just need to let players choose which characters they want to work toward. There’s so much more money to be made in character cosmetics, and over-complicating/monetizing the characters themselves only comes off as greedy and off-putting to new players.

Smash Bros could get away with a set order of unlocking characters because unlocks were tied to the number of won Vs Matches in offline, Classic Mode wins, and World of Light wins which are all extremely fast paced systems. If my math is correct to complete one Fighter Road character’s progression you have to win 100 matches. I can’t imagine most new people retaining interest with numbers like that for each individual character just to get characters they didn’t want because they came before the one they DID want

I had friends that were so excited for this season because of Raven that immediately uninstalled simply because Fighter Road would’ve been too long and tedious for them to complete in time to play her (locking her to Premium Currency/Money only until Friday also killed any chance of them playing but Fighter Road was their main beef).

[stuck cave]

I am once again asking you to restore Shaggy's Batman shirt to its original black color

[primal helm]

yeah i hope you get to choose which characters you want to unlock in fighter road maybe mid season they can apply that

[timid steeple]

Higher tier rifts not giving xp is crazy while you people are coding in combos for the ai like everyone plays like nakat and his on the spectrum skills make him perfect for these weird ahhh metas for movements or fighting that’s not even the base games combo set up

[autumn estuary]

Banana Guard still busted
Shaggy still busted
Jason still busted
Joker literally busted
but nah nerf mid tiers again!!!!

[timid steeple]

Go play the green gem dexter rift with shaggy and Batman on insanity. That will humble you how not busted Jason is with these turbo charged nakat fueled ai combo infused freaks. 🥰

[autumn estuary]

tbf the only jason i've fought today was with a banana guard maybe that skewed things

[timid steeple]

Take down arena mode this ain’t it with the fellas you have that have 0 to no experience coding. I just love thinking about working a 8-10 hr shift to come home play some arena just for it to crash mid gauntlet and giving 0xp for all the fights completed……..

like what is wrong with you people……

[halcyon steppe]

Random on Arena should also give you a random skin

[solar ocean]

Arena is clearly, as it states, very experimental. The health is never actually reliable. An example of this is in the final battle of the round, my team was at 71, while the other team was at 58. We were immediately brought to -9 at the beginning of the round with no reason, while they still stayed at 58, which guaranteed them the win

Also, sometimes people would just randomly gain or lose health without explanation mid round, or not get the boost in health that they deserved for succeeding

[halcyon steppe]

I played 4 games of Arena, and 2 of those games were cancelled or crashed due to unreal engines / server issues.
One of those games was in the 10th round and the last game.
Spending a lot of time, resources, and dedication to the tournament just to have it be cancelled and getting all your rewards lost feels so bad.

I love the mode but please make it more stable so I don't have to play 9 games, have the game crash, and get nothing out of it.
Or better yet, reward players for each game completed instead of having all the rewards come at the end. That way, there is a fail safe in case a game has crashed or gets cancelled due to issues that were not the player's fault, and players can still get some rewards/exp/mission progression out of it.

[autumn estuary]

Dear Tony Huynh,
Please fire the one guy who has a vendetta against Adventure Time and keeps suggesting horrible changes to all Adventure Time characters to make them all extremely unfun to play as or against.
Sincerely,
The Finn Community

[upper wind]

let me skip all the reward screens at the end of a match please

[thorny thicket]

Steven can not use airwalker. He just keeps falling downward holding shield while the air walker platformer dangles there useless. Given the recent changes to Stevens side and up special mechanics, it's pretty disappointing this didn't become a possible viable option

[timid steeple]

Please fire everyone on your coding team….. this honestly atrocious how the game functioned better in beta then it is today…….

[hollow path]

The Fighter Road changes are horrid. Imagine you’re a new player joining for the first time to play your newly released favourite character and you have to unlock the entire cast before you even get to them.

[patent halo]

ranked is way too hard right now

[lusty sparrow]

the results screen is too long now. unnecessary. let us skip it or just put it all on one screen.

[worldly grove]

Its so jaring "fixing" a move by making the character stand still after its over it just feels so bad

Also #savetheXbutton theres gotta be a way to opt out of the end results screen im not trying to press x fiddy times

[worldly grove]

I had the same problem where it crashes on the last match after i won all the previous matches and i got nothing from it... so that will be the first and last arena i play

[indigo valve]

It has become more than obvious that you guys struggle to assign fair numbers to anything in this game....

Why take away the 1500 gleamium from the $30 character bundles? I was ACTUALLY TEMPTED to buy BJ because of that but then you removed it for every other character bundle going forward... But it's typical that you guys course-corrected to a worse deal to align with everything else being too expensive... FIX YOUR PRICES.
Why does first place in arena mode net 'cha 700 prestige but second place nets 'cha 70? It brings so much stress to losing...
Fighter road is a good idea in concept but 15,000 XP per character is just too much... At LEAST make it 10K or even less, you're suppose to make things fair enough for noobies to get into the game and unlock characters at a decent pace, stop screwing up the chances you get, I can ALMOST recommend the game to my friends but everything's still too grindy and pricey... Be more fair, stop treating this like a mobile game!

[spark trail]

Nothing is working. The Shops are not loading and its crashed all the Time

Good Game 🫣

[foggy ether]

Despite issues being in the game…

The SPEED INCREASE AND SHORT HOP IS FIRE 🔥!!!!
Should've been day 1 but I gotta hand it to y'all, I feel it and it feels great!
Good work PFG

[mossy hill]

@foggy etheroh also wave dashing feels so much better

[stuck sable]

My friend is apparently a braindead moron so he wanted me to tell the PFG devs to make the game autoredeem the items on the battlepass that you have earned because if you don't claim the items you earned before the end of the season you lose them.

My friend is incredibly unintelligent apparently and this should be a lesson to the devs about how some players are basically so amazingly dumb that you basically need to hold their hand for the absolute simplest of goddamn actions or they're going to get mad and throw a hissyfit over shooting themselves in the foot.

[frosty estuary]

if someone disconnects before an arena match starts, both teams lose health and don't get the coins they would've gotten from ringouts and such

[stiff nest]

dropping the game 'till y'all undo that change to Iron Giant's neutral-air. not only did it make his gameplay in neutral worse but also, I am now subjected to getting up-air'd constantly with no way of getting out of it. that was the last straw

[winged estuary]

Whats the point of arena giving bots then giving others another player

It's just guaranteed lose lose everytime

I don't wanna waste an hour of my life just to lose cause I had a crappy bot to role with compared to playing against actual people

Either given one of each their own bot, and remove the bots completely

[round ravine]

Suddenly, most of my character levels have reset to zero. I was at level 16 with Powerpuff Girls, now they're at 0

I have all characters but Raven unlocked. Only the levels of Harley, Reindog and Iron Giant have stayed as they were, though the progression level bar has completely reset in all of them as well

[indigo valve]

revising: I got 2nd place and recieved 350 prestige, no clue why there was a difference or if you hotfixed things... Either way, these are good enough numbers for arena...

[strange pelican]

All shop items cost 999 gelanium and once entered the shop the game is crashing down its worse then s3 unplayable

[indigo pendant]

When you guys said this was the biggest season ever, it’s clear “biggest” was misconstrued for “longest” because everything takes up way too much time now.

I’ve already detailed why Fighter Road doesn’t work in execution, but the fact that it takes 150 wins IN PVP ONLY to unlock one character is such a blatant turn off for new players/players who haven’t played since Beta and are returning for Raven/Marceline. The over monetization of characters has made Fighter Road serve no purpose beyond e-begging a player to buy the 40,000 Gleam auto complete or they’re just not getting a character they want. This could’ve been mitigated slightly if Rifts wins counted toward Fighter Road, but they don’t. I’d say this is a secret and unjust jab at people who use Rifts to grind events, but clearly it isn’t since you can still grind events in Rifts!

This season is also the “biggest” by overpricing the Battlepass. For half of the content and quality of the previous pass and the loss of the free character, the pass should at most be half the price of the old passes. Ironically, the Battle Pass was the one microtransaction that most players genuinely wanted to pay, but you’ve reduced its value and taken away any and all genuine reasons to buy it. Why Raven couldn’t have been available on the Battle Pass as well as Fighter Road is beyond me, but new players are not going to buy a skin for a character they can’t play until they win 4,500 online PVP matches. Especially when they can’t even unlock the character(s) they are interested in unlocking along the way.

The season’s “bigness” continues by pointlessly overextending the end of match results screen. I understand the vision, it does look kinda nice, but now the end of every match takes so much longer, and it feels like this was only done to eat up more time on the player’s end. Rifts grinding was already long as is due to the number of Event EXP required per tier, but now with this feature it takes even longer to finish out matches for event EXP that used to take a couple seconds to finish tops. The worst part about these screens is that they seem to have broken Victory Quotes at the end! It’s so awkward to click through all these progress screens just to see my characters standing in utter silence. A Skip To Results Button needs to be added to this so we can get right back into our games, because this is such a pace killer.

In short, while this is a big season, it feels like they things that were embiggened were only done so to draw money out of players. I understand you guys have to make your money, but you’re directly punishing new players far too much in your attempts to do so. It seems with every season there are new implementations that are downright hostile to the playerbase, not a lot of players are going to leave you feedback in response to these hostile changes like this to help you out. They’re just gonna leave and not come back

[eternal moon]

Can we get Harley demon skin it will look sick

[untold lintel]

Making the post match progress screens un-skippable is such a bad experience. Nobody wants to be waiting and clicking everything just to be able to get into another game

[untold lintel]

Spot on

[eternal moon]

Harley needs spaciel that can't get destroyed or taken over for she can have spaciel that would connect to the opponent for it can be equal sided

[delicate maple]

...I'm just gonna say this right now, I don't like fighters road.

[tiny shale]

Make bugs bunny good again 😤

[final depot]

My raven rank resets

[paper hemlock]

Mouse inputs for directional moves don’t work when you alt tab out of the game. The game seems to fix itself when you alt tab back in. Platform is steam.

[pine bluff]

You should make batman's air side attack 2 combo better, since it's near impossible to hit. And also make Morty's side attack 2 stop whiffing like what was done with finn

[gentle perch]

Why is ffa a thing still when we have wacky weekends.... Those should just be available all week with ffa somewhere in the mix

[viral hazel]

Fighter road is good in concept, but the amount of exp you get for it is way too low.

• It'll be better to choose the fighters you wanna work towards

[lucid delta]

It wouldn't be Wacky Weekend if it was constantly available on weekdays now would it?

[gentle perch]

Smdh.... Semantics..... Call it wacky weekdays or just wacky mode
..... What the heck man.....

[upper aspen]

nerf jason damage he can kill you with 1 hit with 0 damg if you are in the corner of the platform

[lament dome]

Minor thing but still wanna mention, let us buy matrix shaggy and shark hat shaggy

[ruby cipher]

Hello. I like to complain about your game, I disapprove it's condition of PVP Mode, players are unfair and not giving me a chance to attack.

[long meadow]

I had over 8k fighter currency and I get 1 character for that with a new patch, thanks PFG -_-

[grizzled bane]

Restart the game. That's a visual glitch that randomly happens

[grizzled bane]

Lol. Just don't come near him if he's charging a big, obvious move. You can't get one shot by him unless you run into him willingly

[ruby cipher]

Is no one listening!? I wanna file a complaint!

[autumn estuary]

there must be a disingenuous adventure time hater on the dev team there's no other explanation for how bad every adventure time character has been disrespected in balance. Fire him. yjk marceline is gonna release unusable because people actually like her. peppermint butler would release busted though because hardly anyone cares about him

can't wait to make people quit the game on peppermint butler keep it up you hack

[long meadow]

Wdym, banana and finn are super good? And jake playstyle heavily favoured cheesy offstage specials but still good be seen on top levels of play, unlike some characters...

[autumn estuary]

Banana Guard being too strong, getting a couple nerfs, then going back to being way too strong is part of the problem. Jake is a more egregious nair spammer than steven now. Don't make me laugh with your lies about the state of Finn.

[dense ledge]

Now that Bugs has Dynamite back, can we have the Summoning Cube back as well?

[flint plinth]

Give Marvin like an extra button or something. My main is starving. The fair is okay but like that's still not enough. He needs like another bubble or something. Like he can use bubble twice and still get the flipperoo effect . Also the nerf to that's flammable doc perk made Marvin even worse. Marvin needs the help bad

[autumn estuary]

They should just ditch everything that isn't DC or AT so they can focus on having their moneymakers well balanced

ACCELERATIONISM NOW

[lusty canopy]

the server disconnected me in the aftermath, i lost more points than usual and now i cant play for 5 minutes. Can this become more frustrating?

[upper aspen]

im talking about his air atacks and his tp

[grizzled bane]

If you're dying from Teleport at 0, then you just kinda genuinely suck. That move was nerfed for a reason and doesn't even kill until 100 - 120

[upper aspen]

hahaha i just see your nickname, nothing to say to one that mains it. just buy some character with real mechanics

[grizzled bane]

What do you consider to be "real mechanics". Genuinely curious lol

[grand meteor]

Ok I just want to point out something.

FIGHTERS CURRENCY IS STILL HERE!

Go to the store the fighters store is still there and you can go there to buy characters it's not just the fighters road.

[stray mist]

It's there for as long as you have some remaining.

Once your stash is out, it's gg

[grand meteor]

Ah well that's not good then

[grizzled bane]

Well?

[zealous lion]

I entered an arena, did 2 matches, when loading the 3rd the game crashed. Look at fighters road, no aditional xp registered. No way to go back to the arena.

The biggest problem with fighter road is that if you want to unlock some characters, half of the game became USELESS as it does not give fighter road xp

[tiny ocean]

they said in the into the verse and the patch notes that weakened was being removed but samurai jack still inflicts weakened lol

[sonic folio]

in the process of being removed, they specified that characters that deal weakened will keep it until the replacement is fully finished

[grizzled bane]

Batman and Morty:

[autumn estuary]

when will you learn that nerfing mid tiers to trash status just widens the power scaling gap and makes people switch to busted top tiers

[stiff nest]

ima come back and play. that really pissed me off yesterday, y'all balance team don't know how to balance dog water and now I know this so i'm not even gonna be mad

[dusk plume]

Arena mode is incredibly confusing, I'm not even sure if there is a tutorial for it or not but even if there is it would be too hard to find it.

The UI is shockingly bad, leaving me so confused and overwhelmed, I never know what to look at. And when a certain arena menu pops up, I only have like 5 seconds to read it, not that I even can read it. I played so many rounds in an arena match I never knew when it would end, then it finished finally and said I placed 5th, which is insane because I thought it was just me and 1 other team, I clearly don't get this.

This Arena mode is sadly incredibly embarrassing, like it baffles me that it released like this. I do have hope that it will be heavily improved and I fully support PFG, but the way this released is insane.

Also the whole fighter currency and fighter xp was very confusing at first for many people, I definitely think PFG needs to make things more clear.

[viral echo]

My game automatically keeps freezing and loading

[topaz orbit]

blah blah blah lag blah blah performance blah blah blah servers blah blah crashes

[grizzled bane]

This is exactly my feelings about Arena put into words. Legit had to go through 25 minutes of confusion and stuff

[fair scarab]

Are we still in maintenance mode? Still can’t purchase the battle pass. Can you explain or help please and thank you?!

[sonic folio]

are you in console?

[fair scarab]

PS5 yes

[sonic folio]

often in consoles, after a big update, you gotta soft reset your console for the update to work properly. Many have had this issue or similar and gets resolved after soft resetting

[fair scarab]

I’ve tried that, reset the console and restored my licenses. Still nothing

[sonic folio]

then i am not sure, the other solution would be reinstalling, cant think of much more, sorry

[fair scarab]

Yeah I was thinking about that as well. Thank you for your time. Love the game!

[inland talon]

I had like 15k character currency enough to buy the rest now its gone and I only got one character off this new character road thing 😭

[sonic folio]

how many are you missing?

[inland talon]

5 now I didnt' know it was gonna just replace currency I wouldve just used it

[sonic folio]

thats the thing, it doesnt, you cant get more, but you should be able to use the left over you have

have you tried checking the fighter store?, i got all the characters so i cant really check til raven is out

[viral echo]

Well it keeps happening to me. Don’t be rude

[upper wing]

thank you pfg for making raven one of the most fun and balanced characters in this game

[pine bluff]

I keep seeing the same maps on repeat, as if the others weren't in the game. Townsville hall, the map with the stripes, and destroyed Townsville hall

[frank chasm]

That youre forced to spend real money on

[topaz orbit]

i'm not mocking the players

[steel spear]

Fighter Road is pretty bad. Not being able to select what character you want to earn is very off-putting. I don't want Tom and yet have no choice in getting him next.
I see fighter currency in the store to buy them, but what I've noticed is a lack of ways to earn fighter currency. Every mission is giving exp for this and that but nothing that gets me a new character besides Tom. So once I use all of what I have, it's over?
I feel as though this system change is going to drive away people who don't want to spend $10 for every single character they want without grinding through the slog that is the road. Sure, there's a bundle to buy the entire road outright and I understand that this is a business, but this system in its current state is going to lose more players and thus your potential earnings.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[sonic folio]

how long does it take to unlock a character? since i cant do it yet would love to know

[steel spear]

I've been playing for about 1.5-2 hours now and earned 2,600 exp. You need 15,000 to get a character.

[sonic folio]

15k??? thats soo much

i thought images showed 6.5

does the xp needed increase per tier?

[steel spear]

So roughly 5 hours of grinding at the pace I'm going per character

[balmy stag]

Yes the first few are abouts 6.5k, and at around batman everything goes up to 15k

[balmy stag]

Mind you after each day you have less quests to complete that would give you extra fighter road exp like from the battle pass and event prizes

[eternal moon]

Why do they put u into tom up move. If Jerry has a bomb on him he should explode

He should not destroy the bomb

Harley needs a boost on her spaciel it takes to long for it to come out

[upper wing]

whatever yall did to ranked is awful, constantly put in unbalanced matches and w lower skilled teammates that do stuff like disconnect for 3 stocks, run off the stage and ragequit if they even think they're gonna lose

[eternal moon]

Garnet needs to be narf her neutral in the air is cheating how is her hit box that big and she take up to much damage and she don't be doing nothing.

Harley reaction time needs to be faster why is garnet swinging faster than Harley garnet get done with her combo than I swing how does she get to swing again and hit me first that is annoying

Harley needs quick reaction time and spaciel

Jack still pull u into his move

And his hits still connects behind him whan he is fighting in front

[eternal moon]

Have to make it that u can doge out of a combo when they are hitting u

[upper wing]

so if we're removing weakened as a mechanic, take it off batman, he still kills stupidly early

[upper aspen]

the game feels lagging than before, like I miss a hit in the air and fall down very fast

[vale basalt]

Game crashes whenever i go back to FFA, i just want to do the daily missions

[sonic folio]

thats AWFUL, good thing i've not claimed a single thing so i get a little push when raven comes out

[spice ridge]

Been getting constant UE crashes right when the match start. Very frustrating. Last season they'd happen in the pre-match loading screens, but now that it's happening when the fight begins, I keep getting leaver penalty and unable to matchmake for several minutes.

[native wave]

In my experience for Arena, I get stuck on match result after a disconnect (or a quit I think) of another enemy player.

[waxen epoch]

Unplayable in xbox one 😔

[eternal moon]

Why do wonder women axe and sowrd has such a far reach

Have to fix it

[simple lotus]

Can someone explain to me why every single move beetle juice has, has literally zero priority against literally anyone else's moves?

[eternal moon]

Make Harley faster

Give her hammer damage

[simple lotus]

Fix getting stuck at the top of the ledge walls!

What made you think that after a ranked match is over I wanted to hit ok 18 times before I can get the next match started?

[eternal moon]

She need to faster and her spaciel it should not be no reason that all her spaciel is slow and her hammer hit should take up a lot of hp it is her strong attack

[tawdry wolf]

@umbral summit hey I wanted to report an issue. On the "Trigon on the Loose mission", it says Im already at level 9, but I just opened the game after the update for the first time. And Im not getting any of the 9 rewards ://. So I miss out on all the XP for no reason then?

[simple lotus]

When you were designing hitboxes, what made you think everyone's wind up on their attacks should also have hitboxes? Do you know how attacks work in real life? You wind up and all the energy is transferred and release at the point of impact at the END of the attack!

There's a glitch I've seen it happen a few times now against superman and just now against harley. (Idk if the opponent matters) but I'm playing beetle juice and his grounded down attack *uncharged has no forward movement he just hops up and down in place. I am not certain of the conditions unfortunately.

[heavy agate]

Implement Glemium Cashback in all bundles on the store

[simple lotus]

Why does Nubia's long spear attack catch me when her attack is nearly full length and I'm in her face landing on her? Then it warps me to the end of her spear. It looks ridiculous and makes no sense

Stop rewarding players for making the wrong choice with Jank hitboxes!!!!

You want your game to succeed? I need consistency I need things to make sense I don't need costumes and characters. I need a game that works correctly...

Stop making characters that pander to the casual/new players because they have broken moves and call them "recommended"

@heavy agate Then they wouldn't get to keep all your money...

[heavy agate]

otherwise, they will gain even more money

reduce glemiuns prices in brazil and insert all bundles glemiums as chashback, 200, 300 and depending how expensive is the bundle

[simple lotus]

When you were designing Beetle juice were you aiming to make him as least likely to hit anyone as possible? What I mean is all of his vertical moves are either left justified or right justified. IE his upper cut is either up to the left or up to the right, it doesn't just cover above him on both sides like alot of characters. His "up aerial" again up/left or up/right not just a generally above him... down air down/left or down/right not just bellow him.. "Aerial down speciall door either comes out to the left or to the right. Etc.... this means in addition to spacing correctly I need to hope and pray that I'm facing the right direction when executing the move. Which leads to alot of aggrevating whiffs.

[upper wing]

i cant get out of bronze because my low skill teammates are throwing every game, disconnecting midgame if they think they're gonna lose, and SD'ing when they go offstage. undo the mmr changes this is awful

[simple lotus]

Also the "door/worm" move would be such a great move to get out of disadvantage but it basically never works for that. It's either too slow to come out or in other cases it just doesn't have a good hit box to hit the opponent. They can be right inside the worm and just don't get hit for some reason.

I'm not saying it needs to always work but more often would be nice..

[winged estuary]

Yea, they just straight up lied and fixed no bugs in the game

[simple lotus]

And for God's sake make beetlejuice's scream kill better... it's hard enough as it is to hit with basically nothing confirming into it. It feels like you wanted it to be a finishing move but it almost never works unless it's fully charged and I'm literally inside the other person.

And even then I've had people survive over 100dmg with it under those conditions....it feels bad....

[winged estuary]

Why bother playing arena if you get a bot as a partner, it's guaranteed lose

You can't even leave

[grizzled bane]

I believe this patch concept for Jason Voorhees would deal with all his current issues as of right now:

+= Buff
-= Nerf
~= Change
*= Bugfix

General:
~Reworked Jason's current hurtboxes to accurately resemble his current model.
~Jason's passive now works on all instances of GRAY HEALTH instead of just his neutral special.

Ground Neutral Attack:
-Removed the hitboxes on the lower half of Jason's body.

Air Down Attack:
~Adjusted the hitboxes to better match his animation.

Ground Neutral Special (Rage Buff Charge Version):
+The armor given with Jason's neutral special will stay with him until the end of the next active hitbox. (Example, if he were to do Ground Neutral Attack, he would keep his armor until the first active hitboxes of the move go away)

Ground Neutral Special (Roar Version):
+The amount of time the opponent is stunned for is determined by the amount charged by Ground Neutral Special (10 to 20 GRAY HEALTH) and the opponents percent.

Air Neutral Special:
+Armor given 3 additional activation frames.

Air Down Special:
~Adjusted the launch angle of the first hit to be more horizontal to better lead into the second hit while also maintaining the ground bounce.

MONSTROUS SIDESTEP PERK:
~Reworked the move to be more of a mix-up tool. Tapping Side Special will now teleport you like normal and holding Side Special will allow you to teleport behind the opponent.

RESURRECTIONIST:
*Fixed an issue where RESURRECTIONIST would activate where the pre-patch blastzones were. Now, Jason (or his teammate) has to be fully within the blastzone to active.
+Jason will reappear with his max charged rage buff with 20 GRAY HEALTH. Teammates will spawn with 10 GRAY HEALTH only.
+RESURRECTIONIST lasts 2 seconds longer.
+Both Jason and his teammate in a 2v2 scenario are able to activate this perk one time for each. If both die at the same time or one teammate is already using RESURRECTIONIST, the other will die like normal and will be able to use RESURRECTIONIST on their next life.

[spice ridge]

Take notes, PFG

[stuck sable]

Thanks for buffing Velma. I kinda wish you'd be more thorough about all the changes in the patch notes though. I don't think the patch notes mentioned how you made her neutral special activate faster, and how you made her grounded special attack take priority over more attacks. I really appreciate those changes, thanks!

[winged estuary]

Still times me out when my game crashes, amazing game

[left crypt]

Fighter Road is terrible, please do something about it. You have actively taken away player choice. That alone made the FC system better. Not being able to choose the character I want to work towards and unlock is an awful feeling. I don’t want Garnet, but I have to spend time grinding through her and the rest of the characters to get to someone like Taz. This system only seems better for people who already have all the characters. This system is actively harmful to new players who might have only started playing because they like a specific character. You have now made it ridiculously grindy and next to impossible for them to get that specific character for free without spending money. I get that you need to make money, but if I was a new player I would tell you it’s not worth my time. Either make Fighter Road less of a grind or make it so that we can select specific fighters who we wish to earn XP for and work towards.

[light salmon]

change back to old speed, too slidey

[heady agate]

So when is Last Stand Perk coming back? because this game is becoming stale without it

[light salmon]

movement sucks now

[heady agate]

Yeah stalling by Dash dancing is annoying

[broken warren]

ok all the menus after a game is horrible. pressing x ten times to get to another game is rediculous please revert this change.

it seems like every single time the game changes it gets significantly worse

the beta was far better than anything just go back to that

[oblique quiver]

Why no local co-op for rifts, especially when one star per match requires it?

[dusk plume]

Honestly yeah, the new UI is confusing and just boring imo, beta UI actually was really unique and pretty fun

[vapid wagon]

For some suggestions, displaying character's portraits according to their variant or skin in game would be nice. For example, if I picked the animated batman variant, displaying the batman animated portrait instead of the default batman portrait while in game might be a slight quality of life improvement. In addition giving the ability to easily cycle the bot's behavior in training left and right instead of having to cycle all the way through would seem more convenient.

For future updates if shields were to be fully implemented, I still would suggest removing the bubble as the shield and maybe just having the shield being the hurtbox of characters while having some glowing indicator around the characters' blocking animation might give a more unique gameplay experience. I still feel a bubble shield reminds me too much of other platform fighting games, and a gizmo shield compared to a Jason shield seems smaller or differs in size already. Characters such as Agent Smith, Samurai Jack, Shaggy, Jason, Garnet, and Lebron all have similar blocking animations of holding one arm up, as giving some updated unique animations for some of the roster would be nice as well.

[vapid wagon]

The addition of more maps and especially new characters have made the game feel more fresh as well as continuous improvements to the game such as fast fall speed changes, hitbox improvements and short hops have improved the quality of the game in my opinion. The seasonal background music change such as when it was the Halloween event and themed or new loading screens had helped made the game feel more fresh as well, however hearing the matchmaking chime over a thousand times can get a little stale. Possibly adding a way to change the background music or something in the shop to change the matchmaking chime might help the game seem more fresh or to add to a more enjoyable gameplay experience.

Miscellaneous feedback, Lebron being 6'9 in real life, he's about the same height as Shaggy or Nubia in game or shorter than Superman. Certain characters like Batman's character model elongates when jumping as I'm not sure if that was intended. Shaggy's neutral attack charged minimally and his grounded up attack both have a considerable amount of knockback around 100 damage compared to a majority of the roster.

[static scroll]

nubia needs to be fixed her reach with the grab move is way to long and the hitbox is rediculous. it will grab you even when you are above her head

[twin river]

Velma in 1v1 is honestly bottom one in terms of playability. The fact that I have gotten to Top 100 Velma players at Silver 5 feels like a joke. Compared to Shaggy who (while very powerful in game, lore wise) is a coward, I have to play like a coward to do anything meaningful as Velma.

She only has one "true" combo string, and it does about 20-ish damage. Other mage's laugh at that kind of damage output starting from zero.

The recent buffs to her movement speed, side special, and jab hitbox are a step in the right direction, but she just needs a little something more.

[static scroll]

speaking of shaggy there should be a cooldown on how many times he can throw that side kick cause holy hell it is impossible to do anything against him in ranked

[twin river]

If it helps, a smart shaggy knows not to throw out side b against an opponent looking for it. It's very parryable, just like Batman grapple. It also leaves Shaggy a bit open after. Knowing the spacing on the kick will help immensely in the match up for you.

[static scroll]

well then i think there are some issues with raven that still need to be worked out

[hoary sierra]

Raven jab 1 is wayyy too slow

[mossy hill]

her entire attack is a projectile i feel like

[twin river]

That I can agree on. I reported a visual bug on her bird beam special earlier today. It was simply invisible, but I can't replicate it easily.

[mossy hill]

alsoooo i would say shaggy Nair is so oppresive

[twin river]

That I can understand. His nair has always been a bit strong, but the shorthop addition this season has made it even stronger

[mossy hill]

the short hop isnt that short too

also

[twin river]

I just mean the better aerial movement overall

[mossy hill]

wave dashing in this game is way wayyyy too hard

i compared it with rivals

rivals has a really easy tot do wave dash

[hoary sierra]

with how fast people can take space the range doesnt conpensate at its current speed imo doesnt need to be the fastest jab just a touch up

[mossy hill]

would say same for velma

[lucid delta]

I’ve been trying to say this as well but of course, people just love to hate.

[twin river]

I mean, I'm gonna be real, Shaggy side-b spam just wins against certain characters. IG being the main culprit, but even so.

[lyric marlin]

morty is still listed as a bruiser instead of a mage on the game's website

[grand meteor]

Honestly liking the movement changes though I think raven needs some buffs.

It takes way too long to kill as raven she has great combos but her only killing moves are too slow

[mossy basin]

Why taz is now so slow ?

[upbeat storm]

arena often crash

[faint vector]

Does PFG not have a UI designer? It’s hard to even call this bad UI design, cuz it feels like there’s simply no design at all.

[quick vortex]

why isn't weaken a debuff that decrease your damage and knockback instead of the opposite? then you can revese all the changes with it and if you REALLY REALLY want that literally attach it to the Strengthen buff thats already in the game

also give shaggy downtilt clap it's slowed debuff from the beta back

[upper aspen]

nerf jack jabs

[formal bridge]

Any update on ravens third signature perk? It's still not in the game

[tawdry wolf]

Oh woww. I get every character for free now just from a tiny bit more effort. And I can still use fighter currency if I want one today. The tragedy. Please fix this game, boohoo

[left crypt]

I’m talking specifically from a new players point of view. They don’t have fighter currency. And if they wanted to play as someone like Raven they have to work through the entire road first. The Fighter Currency system already allowed you to get every character for free, you just got to choose who you wanted.

[tawdry wolf]

Hmmmm true 🤔 although I doubt new players would care much going into the game. We would care more because we cared enough to stick through the 4 seasons

Someone new may open up the game practically blind, not knowing which character to pick

I dont think they care too much

But I do think more options wouldn't hurt

Like how they let you pick between Batman and LeBron

[ionic furnace]

some people would want to start for the newly added characters

[tawdry wolf]

Have like 4 characters as options

[ionic furnace]

and now you either have to pay 1k gleamium for the new character, or grind grind grind

maybe thats exactly the point tho, that PFG is hoping new people will want to drop 10 bucks, but overall i dont think its consumer friendly

[left crypt]

Did you not read actually read my post? I even gave an example. Another example is I tried to get my cousin to play because he likes Gizmo, but now he’d have to work through the entire road to get Gizmo rather than just earn the fighter currency to buy him.

Some people might only play the game for their favorite characters

[tawdry wolf]

I don't think they're catering to new people anymore, although they really should. They're trying to retain players with new modes that only support us. Maybe they want to get new players in, but from what I can tell, it's "How do we make sure our players keep playing? How about fighter road? They wouldn't wanna spend currency on characters they dont care about. So why not give them for free? They'll gave to work for it but pssht, they probs have most of their wanted characters after 4 seasons"

As I said tho, if they want to bring in and keep new players, I'd say give them options too

Like allow them to pick their first character

[upper aspen]

bro what the hell I just fighted against a iron giant that perma stun me and kick me in the begging to the side.

[ionic furnace]

i honestly figured fighters road would let you choose what character to work towards

[tawdry wolf]

The old system worked fine tho. As much as I like free characters, I dont understand why they would change it, money-wise

[ionic furnace]

i dont think i can keep up with unlocking 2 characters per season to keepup with the releases

[ionic furnace]

FC was too confusing according to PFG

aka: fighters road will make more people desperate enough to take out gleamium and unlock characters

[tawdry wolf]

Hmmm? You earn some and then you pick a character. I think fighter currency works better at making people desperate

Specially since you earn more

Aka: Oh I can just buy a lot of this off, dont have to spend extra on gleamium. Dont mind if I do

[ionic furnace]

well now if someone wants to play agent smith but still have 10 characters to unlock before that they might want to use gleamium, at first you could just get agent smith outright with FC

[tawdry wolf]

Yep yep. Buuuut thats not how they're thinking

It's: well now, we're at season 4. People won't spend money on characters they dont have nor want. Lets give them for free. But if there's a character they want, they'll want to pay

I would propose making multiple fighter roads

People can check the order and then stick with it

Maybe spend a few gleamium to switch over. Not a whole lot. Under the amount of a character, because they'd still have to work for it

[indigo valve]

You guys need to think of how much time a Joe or Jill normie would have to play a game... toasts are massively underpowered, you need to work on these bloody numbers... You're not giving enough back to players, and your prices are still absurd.

People cannot make multiversus their second job, stop with the awful grinds.

[tawdry wolf]

Hey Im with you again. The old system was fine. But Im not Joe or Jill. Im not gonna spend extra for Buggs or Batman. But I get them for free now. And I still get to spend FC on Raven and Arya and Marceline.

They're thinking of us, not Jill or Joe

For me, great. For new players, not great

And like I said

Logistically speaking,

"Player first"

[indigo valve]

Yeah, I can't convince any of my friends to play because they know of this game's problems.

"player first" indeed

[tawdry wolf]

Its dumb. The old system was fine

[indigo valve]

this new system could be good but they gotta be more generous with the numbers.

[tawdry wolf]

Ehh. They're free for play. They dont gotta be generous. They just gotta be accessible

I'd say something like

Keep FC in

[indigo valve]

I would consider fortnite generous, with the bang for your buck they give you.

[tawdry wolf]

But either they're more rare, or the fighters cost more

To compensate for the Fighter Road

Or you know

Keep it as it is

But as someone who has enough FC and has all of their characters, Im not complaining

But I do understand where everyone is coming from

New players get royaly screwed

[indigo valve]

I'm thinking of my friends

[ionic furnace]

im a normie in terms of playtime, i play at most 30 minutes in a day

its far from enough to keep up with fighters road

[indigo valve]

I figured.

[tawdry wolf]

My friends dont play this game, and I wont force them to. I guess I dont really have friends in MVS to care about. Sorry for the mismatch perspective but oh well

[tawdry wolf]

Idk it takes more to not be a normie. Being on the MVS disc server and giving feedback isn't "normie" to me. But still, we all have school or jobs and we cant sink in a lot of time

Which sucks Mr. Elusive skins and limited time events

[ionic furnace]

im just using the same terminology gutsybird was using

[tawdry wolf]

On top of missions that feels like chores

We can atleast agree that this game is flawed as heck. As much as I want it to succeed, they gotta really be more "Player First"

I get it, its a free to play game

But alienating new player, adding elusive skins, ooof its a struggle

And I dont even know about the meta. Which I do not want to get into because it gives me a headache

I rather just use Jack and PPG and vibe

[meager hare]

People are a little harsh on this game they did re build this game since beta and there trying to complete investor goals as well as give players what they want it's kinda hard from a development stand point

[indigo valve]

Is this game being sabotaged from the inside?

Is there someone that's saying "no, that's too generous. Make it grindier."
"No, that's too cheap, make it pricier."
"No, don't try to fix THAT problem, focus your efforts on something else"

The king listening to his evil royal vizier...

sultan, rather

[meager hare]

Pretty much most f2p are like that

Investors need there money back

[indigo valve]

Gaze upon fortnite and feel shame from your words.

[meager hare]

It started pretty crappy

I played in the beginning the skins were poop

They didn't get better till after it went down for a while during the black hole this g

Thing*

Go look at the skins from the first year and tell me if they were worth investing in

They didn't give away free skins till like y3

[stuck sundial]

Dear …. Player first games

…… I know that business is on last leg here but I think some of the changes are impacting the game a little bit I understand that your trying to make the best experience for players that’s why players are always first and this is my feedback

Bring back coins for players that’s the most request

Remove fighter road and make it when you complete a match you get coins that’s are good quality coins and not just 50 at least 100

Make currency more easier to optain

Make cosmetics more affordable a fare price

Be sure to check any bugs before launch for a season or any update

Make all characters fast not just some ones

Remove any data mine evidence so that it doesn’t interfere with development or surprises for the game

Pick fan pick characters not ones that are random for example nubia less dc characters more Cartoon Network characters

I hope these changes will help the game more and make the player base better

[quick vortex]

lmao

[indigo valve]

I'm not really talking about the quality of fortnite's earliest skins or how they haven't given away freee skins til' later... I'm just bringing up the fact how they give you some actual bang for your buck when you DO decide to buy something and how they've gotten SO much money from not being stupid with their numbers.

they don't try to see how much they can get away with... Every single time.

just keep abusing their player-base with high crummy grindy numbers.

low rewards

fortnite doesn't do that.

Multiversus does, and it has LOST so much money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJLPONnEMzk

The cosmetics portion of this video is still very relevant.

[tawdry wolf]

No. Enough with the whole "Nubia" and "Banana Guard" stuff. I understand not a lot of people asked for them, but I think itd healthy to include obscure characters, both for the roster itself and for the series they come from

I know you guys looove to cry about Nubia but guess what

I run into her a buncha times, and so as Banana Guard. They appear as often as some of the characters (except Buggs, Superman, or Shaggy)

I think they're also fine monetary wise with those type of characters, and people gotta stop crying over them

[indigo valve]

roster picks are far from this game's biggest problems

[tawdry wolf]

Agent Smith, Jason, Marceline, Raven, PPG, Samurai Jack, Beetlejuice, Joker. What's the occasional obscure character gonna do?

And later we get Aquaman, Scooby, and Wicked Witch. We wont get another "joke character" for a while either, they're spread apart nicely

[tawdry wolf]

Exactly. We got a handful of stuff to complain about. We gotta focus on the stuff that actually matters. Not about the two spear users that are also fun to play

[zenith mango]

The problem I have with Fighter Road you can’t pick the fighter you want to unlock. hope during mid season ore in season 5 it can be changed

[tawdry wolf]

My biggest problem really is that Neptr isn't in the game. I wish he could be like a Perk for Finn or something. Bring Neptr back

[cinder sable]

Allow people the choice to spend character tickets OR fighter currency. Forcing us to spend character tix first is scummy business practice

[stuck sundial]

very true and understandable i thought of that after the text i meant to correct my spelling my bad

[tawdry wolf]

You're good. It tends to be a common complaint when a game has a huge roster with multiple IPs

Im still exhausted over the whole Piranha Plant debacle back in Smash Ultimate oof

[indigo valve]

It's amazing how the people who believed in the game the most are getting screwed

[viral echo]

Please put out a update soon that fixes the freeze glitches

[patent halo]

Implement a "refer a friend" program to help get ppl back into the game. Let us give them a fighter token or something so that can pick one char they are interested in right off the bat. Let us do your advertising for you. Just give us incentives so we can actually sell ur game.

[viral hazel]

Power Pledge Drive gives you 650 Fighter Road exp, you need 15,000 exp to get 1 fighter, That is 4.333333 of a fighter you'll get from doing the Power pledge drive, Fighter Road is good in theory but you need to fix how much fighter road exp you get, and let people choose what character is next, New players are completely screwed with this system, please fix it, or at least acknowledge it at this point

[thorny thicket]

mashing A through half a dozen rewards screens after finishing a match is profoundly annoying

[blissful totem]

arena sucks fix it. have yet to finish one game of it since it freezes and lags everyone out on like round 10 every single time. impossible challenges bro

[blissful totem]

also this guy cooking

hire some people who actually care about the game

[sonic folio]

add characters back into the battlepass, and add them to fighter road 3 days later. also make fighter road fair

[timber haven]

idk if it's actually longer to get characters via fighter road than the fighter coins were, but it FEELS a lot longer (especially since nothing gives a decent amount of xp) and you don't get to choose who you get, also you can't save up fighter experience when you're between character releases like you could with fighter currency
it's pretty much an objectively worse system in every way, and the biggest problem is that the old system was taken out
I don't know if there were any serious criticisms of the fighter coins system, but this is an awful solution that's pretty much just bad for everybody
taking the characters out of the fighter pass is understandable but effectively half a fighter pass that's using event variants (even if they're higher effort event variants) is dramatically less value for only about 100 less gleamium, you still need to buy the same amount of in game currency
these are both basically inexcusable and screw over new players worse than consistent ones during a pivotal season

all already said countless times but might as well add another voice yelling at the devs

[west smelt]

I'm just here to give some feedback (or a somewhat rant), about this looming problem that still isn't fixed. The crashes. Whenever you're trying to play with someone and do stuff (which the game sometimes forces you to do to earn specific things), it crashes. When you're trying to load up for regular matches, it crashes or disconnects. Or when you're trying to play arenas and you're doing so well (which the game expects you to get a 1st place thing in order to earn specific awards), it crashes. This has to end, because not only it's aggravating but the players of this game will not want to play with the relentless crashing and bugs it's full of.

[viral echo]

Tell me about it

[static scroll]

BRING BACK THE OLD UI THIS ONE SUCKSSSS IT TAKES TO LONG

[west smelt]

Yeah, these challenges harass you in order to get things by either playing with friends or being the very best. But people sweat so badly with this game, and combo you to high hell to where you can't do anything. And sometimes it isn't even your fault, considering the game likes to crash and I have to use my data to send reports for a game that's unlikely to be fixed.

[buoyant pine]

whatever the devs did with the last update, it solved all issues I had. 5 hours (mostly arena), not a single crash or disconnect

[meager hare]

Same

[eternal moon]

Garnit need a different air neutral too much of a big hit box

Garnit needs a nerf

Harley needs to be faster

Slow garnit down ain't no way she is moving that fast

Fix Harley ASAP

[upper wing]

no nerfs to Agent Smith jab, Shaggy jab or Rick jab, its like yall want these characters to stay at the very top and put in no effort to win

[lucid delta]

Funny how you didn't mention Jack of all the characters jabs you seem to have issues with.

[eternal moon]

@upper wing yeah the newd to be narf

[upper wing]

jack has never been a top tier in any gamemode though?? its like the only really strong thing he has

[lucid delta]

He's still good in 2s though.

[eternal moon]

@lucid delta jack does he can hit people behind him when he he fighting in front and they will put u into his attack evan if he doesn't even make contact

[grizzled bane]

Day 2 of a proper patch note concept/suggestion for Jason Voorhees:

+= Buff
-= Nerf
~= Change
*= Bugfix

General:
~Reworked Jason's current hurtboxes to accurately resemble his current model.
~Jason's passive now works on all instances of GRAY HEALTH instead of just his neutral special.

Ground Neutral Attack:
-Removed the hitboxes on the lower half of Jason's body.

Air Down Attack:
~Adjusted the hitboxes to better match his animation.

Ground Neutral Special (Rage Buff Charge Version):
+The armor given with Jason's neutral special will stay with him until the end of the next active hitbox. (Example, if he were to do Ground Neutral Attack, he would keep his armor until the first active hitboxes of the move go away)

Ground Neutral Special (Roar Version):
+The amount of time the opponent is stunned for is determined by the amount charged by Ground Neutral Special (10 to 20 GRAY HEALTH) and the opponents percent.

Air Neutral Special:
+Armor given 3 additional activation frames.

Air Down Special:
~Adjusted the launch angle of the first hit to be more horizontal to better lead into the second hit while also maintaining the ground bounce.

MONSTROUS SIDESTEP PERK:
~Reworked the move to be more of a mix-up tool. Tapping Side Special will now teleport you like normal and holding Side Special will allow you to teleport behind the opponent.

RESURRECTIONIST:
*Fixed an issue where RESURRECTIONIST would activate where the pre-patch blastzones were. Now, Jason (or his teammate) has to be fully within the blastzone to active.
+Jason will reappear with his max charged rage buff with 20 GRAY HEALTH. Teammates will spawn with 10 GRAY HEALTH only.
+RESURRECTIONIST lasts 2 seconds longer.
+Both Jason and his teammate in a 2v2 scenario are able to activate this perk one time for each. If both die at the same time or one teammate is already using RESURRECTIONIST, the other will die like normal and will be able to use RESURRECTIONIST on their next life.

[eternal moon]

Tom and Jerry needs a nerf

[quiet hinge]

Fighter road and it's xp is bs. I had enough currency to buy all leftover fighters, now, I'm never gonna reach raven in time to complete the rift event. GJ, pfg.

[eternal moon]

If a bomb hits Jerry he should explored

[whole shell]

the fighter road is an absolutely horrible idea, implemented in a horrible way. objectively bad decision

decisions like that is why i stopped playing this game. and now i'm playing a way better platform fighter. that i'm sure everyone can guess the name of

[eternal moon]

Nerf tom

No way he is faster than Harley

Fix Harley she needs to be updated now

[sonic folio]

did you guys make it so we get less xp now??? i noticed that now i never get more than 50, when i could easily and consistently get 125 xp in the previous season

[eternal moon]

She is supposed to be quick and her hammer needs to be buff and her spaciel needs to come out faster it is to slow and why can mostly every one take over her spaciel or destroy it that is stupid

And for everyone who got sword why does it teach so far it doesn't even connects to u and it will still brings u in. Harley needs to be buff

And needs a combo that she can connect with her hammer

She even fight slow

[grizzled bane]

Dude. Harley is fine. Everyday I see you in here complaining she isn't good when after the Season 4 Patch Notes, she's easily Top 5.

[sonic folio]

all he asks are all the things harley had before the nerf, she was nerfed for a reason

[grizzled bane]

I know. Even still, she can easily be top 5. She doesn't need buffs, she needs minor nerfs and tweaks.

[sonic folio]

literally, she's good where she is

[stiff nest]

yo did y'all shadow nerf Iron Giant's dodge? I swear to Jesus for the past 1 day and a half I've been pressing dodge after coming out of hitstun and it never comes out. as for Agent Smith, y'all need to do something about him immediately. there's no reason why he should be as good as he is

[grizzled bane]

She can quite literally combo Forward air into Forward air, which can lead into a tech-chase loop

https://x.com/BarrixBc/status/1856536128603451559

[eternal moon]

@grizzled bane just cause she is the top 5 player doesn't mean nothing

@grizzled bane her hits don't take up nothing

[grizzled bane]

I think both Jason and IG have some wonky dodges because of their sizes. Also, try not to input an attack while dodging, since that auto-cancels any invincibility you'd have while dodging. That was one of my problems when dodging tbh

[sonic folio]

yeah same here, im too quick to attack when dodging

[grizzled bane]

Her being top 5 says a lot about the character.

[broken warren]

where did all my fighter currency go did it just get taken away what the heck

this feels horrible

[sonic folio]

you still got it, you can buy characters with it, but not get any more

also all you had was rounded up to the next multiple of 3k so when you are done using it you have no leftover

[eternal moon]

@grizzled bane no it doesn't that just mean people play with her her spaciel comes out slow and why can mostly every one destroy her spaciel or take it over.

[grizzled bane]

Check the Fighter Store where you can buy fighters. It should be in there

[eternal moon]

I don't see all of people spaciel get taken over or destroy

[ionic swift]

Tf

[eternal moon]

@ionic swift what

[sonic folio]

adapt, learn how to actually use the character, all you ask is things that she had before and made her overpowered, we told you about this

[ionic swift]

"Just bc shes good it doesnt mean shes good"

[stiff nest]

I don't I be tapping the heck out of dodge. Agent Smith will do some bull crap like, dodge boost jab 1 > neutral-special, he then pulls out his gun and after me being hit by the neutral-special and I cannot for the life of me dodge past him to get back onto the stage.

I've been asking PFG to give Iron Giant more invulnerability to stop him for getting no skill looped every game (they sort of did) and now this mf character just gets got by wonky hitboxes. it's ridiculous

[grizzled bane]

Special as in bat-bomb? If someone is using an anti-projectile perk or has anti-projectile moves, then yeah, it'll get deleted, which is why you have to predict and adapt when to use it properly

[eternal moon]

They don't be having perks

[ionic swift]

Jason down air special gets destroyed

[grizzled bane]

Tbf, going against an Agent Smith, no one's dodge is gonna work

[sonic folio]

many characters have the ability to destroy projectiles

[eternal moon]

All of her spaciel gets destroyed

[grizzled bane]

Anti-projectile moves such as Black Adam's and Raven's anti-projectile shield/bubble and Jason's (very situational) dash attack

[sonic folio]

exactly, because they can be destroyed, learn to use them

[ionic swift]

Beetlejuice dash attack also deletes proyectiles

[sonic folio]

and steven's nair

[eternal moon]

The only thing she need is to be faster

[sonic folio]

she doenst, she already is good with speed

[grizzled bane]

Good to know actually. Never knew that

[eternal moon]

No she not who yall play with i bet it is spammer

[sonic folio]

literally harley

[eternal moon]

Then u know her spaciel comes out slow

[sonic folio]

yesm and i adapt

slow doesnt mean bad

[eternal moon]

Yes she dose needs to be faster

[stiff nest]

nobody likes Agent Smith at all. he's just an irritable addition that needs to nerfed. idk who is in charge of the balance team, but clearly they see people posting about him negatively. Iron Giant quite literally gets nerfed every season. it should not take multiple seasons to balance characters properly

[ionic swift]

Sair spammers

[sonic folio]

you just want her to be overpowered huh... anyways i tried enough

[ionic swift]

Shes top 5 fastest

Her sair is broken

She shouldnt be able to fast fall with it

[grizzled bane]

When he was released, he was fine, but people complained and he got buffed to basically how he is now, except his bullet hitbox was his entire body

[ionic swift]

It is a combo tool

A approach tool

A loop

[sonic folio]

literally, her sair needs a lil nerf

[ionic swift]

She also gives a lot of pressure

With sair alone

It is a combo tool

Approach tool

Loop

[eternal moon]

Tom and Jerry fast

[grizzled bane]

Unless they sped her up in some prior patch, she's supposedly slower than LeBron

[ionic swift]

Theres no way lebron is faster

[ionic swift]

Not that fast

Harleys sair cover half map

Tom and jerry isnt as fast

He relies on proyectiles

[broken warren]

every update makes me want to play the game less

[pine bluff]

Fix Arya's ground up attack hitbox. It hits me from behind every single time

[eternal moon]

Tom and Jerry, it is fast. He can throw hit after hit and he spam with Jerry

[broken warren]

i want this game to succeed but these horrible updates and menus are why multiversus lost 100 million dollas

just fire everyone who didnt work on the beta and go back to the OGs when it was a fun game

[eternal moon]

@ionic swift he can do hit after hit his up hit brings u into it he spam Jerry get out of here saying he's not fast

[pine bluff]

At least let us choose which character we want to put xp into, if you don't make the grind faster

[eternal moon]

Jason they be giving him a big reach with his sowrd

[stuck cave]

Two of my daily gem missions on Raven-exclusive missions. Very cool

[pine bluff]

They also need to remove that. No reason you should have to grind to the end of fighter road or buy the character to be able to do your dailies

[uncut dagger]

The possessed skins look dull for 800 gleam. I thought atleast their voice pitch would be lower. If it was green rarity it’d be understandable

I’d rather spend the 2 demon coins for the gleamium

[grizzled bane]

I remember making a tier list based off of everyone's weight and speed, but that's outdated now (it was Season 1 stats) with weight and speed changes

[grizzled bane]

^

[ionic swift]

He relies on jerry

[stuck cave]

I wouldn't even be mad about it if it weren't still artificially gated until tomorrow tbh

[eternal moon]

He release jerry and run around the map and shoot tennis balls and comes back and get on and do it all over again

[sonic folio]

he's a zoner, thats the whole point, thats why his movement is fast and atacks are slow to come out

[eternal moon]

What is slow to come out that a lie

Tom shoot him fast tom don't like to throw hands

[sonic folio]

yeah, that and sair are his only quick atacks

[eternal moon]

Tom and Jerry needs to be narf it's alot of characters that needs a nerf

[sonic folio]

harley also needs a small nerf

[eternal moon]

On what

[sonic folio]

sair

[eternal moon]

She doesn't have anything

Her hammer doesn't take up nothing in that is her strong attack

[sonic folio]

she has more attacks than hammer

[eternal moon]

I know that her hits don't really take up nothing

[sonic folio]

no wonder you have so many issues with harely, you only rely on one attack

im literally telling you this as a harley player

[eternal moon]

I use all of her attacks

[sonic folio]

then stop focusing in hammer

use her sair, is really powerful

[eternal moon]

I just don't focused on her hammer

I do all of her attacks I play tank with her it be so many stupid thing that kills her

[sonic folio]

thats a you issue then, not harley

[grizzled bane]

You're playing her like a tank?

[uncut dagger]

Yeah no i see why arthur already left the channel

Cant be reasoned with

[eternal moon]

The issue is she doesn't have fast reflexes and her spaciel comes out to slow i never say she was bad.she just needs to be update a little bit

[sonic folio]

the character has no reflexes as its a thing in a screen, those are your reflexes

[eternal moon]

She need to be almost like jack or Arya that is real assassin

[sonic folio]

jack is a bruiser

[eternal moon]

I know that I am talking about Arya

U can call him that he doesn't fight like a bruiser.He fight like an assassin

Whan i say reflex i'm talking about her reaction time

[viral hazel]

Unlock the fighter road bundle is locked to players with 21 characters or less.

I don't get what Fighter Road is.
It's horribly made so grinding takes too long, but you can't straight up buy all the characters, litterally what is the point?
Even if they purposely made the grind hard so people can just buy it, they can't!

This is absolutely ridiculous
There's no way this makes sense at all!
It's hard to grind, it's hard to buy, no one benefits from this

[eternal moon]

@sonic folio when i say free flexes I mean her reaction time if u can see Arya she has it but harley doesn't when harley fight, she said, be fast like Arya u see the TV show and movies she be throwing hands me and her react time is perfect

And I got many of videos where hits don't supposed to be connected, but it still does it will put u into it

[viral hazel]

Power Pledge Drive gives you 650 Fighter Road exp, you need 15,000 exp to get 1 fighter, That is 4.333333 of a fighter you'll get from doing the Power pledge drive, Fighter Road is good in theory but you need to fix how much fighter road exp you get, and let people choose what character is next, New players are completely screwed with this system, please fix it, or at least acknowledge it at this point

[eternal moon]

What is the goblin fight so fast ain't no way he moves that fast nerf

Gremlins needs a huge nerf

Give Harley what she needs

[grizzled bane]

PFG, please don't listen to this guy.

[eternal moon]

@grizzled bane don't listen to u

@grizzled bane do u want to fight

[grizzled bane]

I can 1v1 you after work and perhaps actually give you advice on how to get better at Harley

[eternal moon]

@grizzled bane ok

[feral harness]

Me when I lie

Up special kills super early and is one of her fastest tools

She can move freely pulling out batbomb

Down special covers her while placing it with a bomb that hits the enemy if they try to punish or stop her setting up

Side special goes through fighters and now even gives the option to shoot the projectile faster

[eternal moon]

That is not a faster move

[feral harness]

Ngl ur just wrong here

[eternal moon]

No u are

[feral harness]

Not really

You're playing a top 5 whining bro

[eternal moon]

That doesn't mean nothing

[feral harness]

It means ur not good at your character actually

[eternal moon]

U sound stupid that mean people like playing with her

Who u play with

[feral harness]

Jake bro

[eternal moon]

The most spamming character 😂🤣

[feral harness]

And go figure my character is way worse but I don't complain because I've actually gotten good

[feral harness]

If you lose to a spammy Jake you gotta get better

[eternal moon]

U get put and his hit

@feral harness fught me

[feral harness]

Watching my sisters rn can't

[eternal moon]

U can be behind him in some how he still hit u

[feral harness]

With which move?

[eternal moon]

Just withe regular attacks

[ionic swift]

My hitbox overhaul reaction

Since when does that hit from behind

[feral harness]

I have never seen a single Jake regular attack hit from behind

[eternal moon]

I am good with Harley she just need a little work yall acting like i said give her a hug buff or something

[feral harness]

Except for ntilt where he literally swings it from behind, but if you get hit with that on Harley you gotta improve

She needs nerfs dude be fr

Sair into sair, into tech read sair

[ionic swift]

She doesnt need anything

Shes freaking meta

[eternal moon]

She doesn't have no move that takes up a lot of damage

Jack he dose

[feral harness]

She has a combo into tech chase that does 62 damage

Go watch Motz in the last Swifty showdown

And she has nearly 0 whiff or endlag on most of her kit

[ionic swift]

Harley is top 5 best in the game

[upper wing]

harley top 8s every tourney, the competitive community agrees that she's top 5

[ionic swift]

#off-topic message

[eternal moon]

Reaction time is slow.jack Reaction time is fast like garnet they could finish one combo and I will swing first and guess what I still get hit

[quiet hinge]

I'm curious, @umbral summit, what part of taking choice away from players and forcing them to grind a ludicrous grind for characters they aren't interested in is "player first"?

[feral harness]

If your reaction time is slow that's on you not the character

Literally when sair is a multi hit and can catch people with I frames after the tech

[eternal moon]

@ionic swift most people can't do that i can't even do that

[ionic swift]

Thats on you

I could do that with less than 20 harley wins

[eternal moon]

I could possibly pull that one time

[feral harness]

If dtilt into sair into jab is too difficult as a loop is too difficult for you, that's completely your fault

[eternal moon]

Arya u see her reaction time is fast

[feral harness]

Arya is not nearly as good as Harley, she's at best top 7/8 rn

[eternal moon]

@feral harness it doesn't matter if I know how to do that I am still good with out doing that

Next yall will say lebron is a good player and he doesn't cheat

[feral harness]

Are you playing a different game?

Lebron isn't nearly as strong as Harley

[eternal moon]

Yes he is

[feral harness]

Go play Lebron man, I genuinely can't believe you're implying Lebron could be top 5

Lebron has no confirmed tech chases like Harley

[eternal moon]

His slam dunk attack on the ground kills u.u can have low health and it will still kill and he will spam basketball

[feral harness]

How do you stand still long enough to be hit by dunk

(doesn't kill Harley til 80 btw)

[heady agate]

Time to Nerf Agent Smith

[grizzled bane]

Nerf Harley please

[heady agate]

💯

[feral harness]

Nerf Harley

[eternal moon]

Harley doesn't need a nerf

NERF JAKE

Garnet

Tom and Jerry

[feral harness]

"everyone is unfair except for my top tier"

[grizzled bane]

Jake was legit the worst character in the game before the Season 4 Patch wym nerf him?

[eternal moon]

@grizzled bane he doesn't really do nothing and he taks a lot of hp

In he spam

[grizzled bane]

Harleys spam more than Jakes ngl

[eternal moon]

No she does not he take up more too

[grizzled bane]

You actually have to commit to what you're gonna do as Jake. With Harley, your whiff will let you basically get a second chance whenever

[eternal moon]

He is the most spamming person in the game

[upper wing]

we gotta do something about superman this character just kills you disgustingly early and wins off one interaction

[eternal moon]

And especially whan u try to get back on the stage

He just spam strong attack to win

[feral harness]

Jake can't afford to spam bro, he has too high whiff and is way too punishable, Harley sair has more priority than Jake sair

[eternal moon]

All of superman strong attack has amor

Jack definitely spam the same move and he has a bid reach for no reason u can doge it in it will still connects

People been saying that

[grizzled bane]

All of Superman's strong attacks have love?

[feral harness]

And even then that isn't true

[static scroll]

hey is there anyway to do something about the matchmaking? i mean ive never played ranked before and im going up against diamond players this is rediculous

[feral harness]

Superman dtilt nair sair both air grabs

[feral harness]

Strange, which division are you in?

[static scroll]

bronze

bronze 2 to be exact and im going up against people who have platnum skins

[feral harness]

That just means that's the tier they ended with last season homie

[tired shard]

I think one the main improvements they can make to fighter road at the moment, barring the obvious unrestricting of the order of character unlocks; is letting players that already have every character unlocked so far be able to "bank" any FR xp obtained so you can save it towards progress to unlocking the next new character.

[upper wing]

i love agent smith jab hitting behind him still and not being punishable

[grizzled bane]

I think that just means that you're facing someone who is trying to catch up to where they were last season

[static scroll]

yeah but they should be with other people who made it that far before i mean i can kind of deal with the gold and what not but dioamond and plat are a whole nother nightmare

[grizzled bane]

They reset the MMR, so overtime, you'll end up going up against people your rank

[static scroll]

oooo ok gotcha sorry thats just really annoying

[patent halo]

I KEEP PLAYING VS THE SAME PPL AND IT SUCKS. you said in ur patch notes this wouldn't happen as much and it's awful

3 games in a row same teammate and i'm not duoed with them

[feral harness]

Nah I get it homie, I'd be confused too

[grizzled bane]

You're good, dw

[lofty beacon]

Why am I seeing the water tower map a lot more lately

Ain’t no reason why I see that map 8 times today

[eternal moon]

@grizzled bane no i don't call that love

[grizzled bane]

But Amor in spanish means love

[indigo valve]

Here's what fortnite does:

1. Lets you play the game
2. Charges pretty attractive prices for cosmetics
3. People keep BUYING these cosmetics 'cuz they have fun with the game that they are able to play, making fortnite one of the most successful free to play games ever.

Here's what multiversus does:

1. Doesn't even let you start hard-core grinding so you can play with Raven for free until 3 days after the season starts (you are expected to play SO MANY GAMES with characters you don't like to get her)
2. Everything in the shop is twice the price it should be. It doesn't matter if you give twenty gleamium away every wednesday, these prices will stay absurd and ward people away from a game they can't even begin to play unless they pony up aLOT of cash upfront. "free to play" my butt. "player first games" my BUTT.
3. Multiversus has lost $100 million dollars.

Whoever is in charge of determining the numbers for this game... The prices and the grind amount... Need to be sent to the gulag. They are sabotaging everyone's hard work.

[feral harness]

Hasn't lost 100 million

They said it underperformed not that it lost money

And the IGN article intentionally left out of the headline was that WB still is going to continue supporting this game

[indigo valve]

It still lost $100 million, and they can say WHATEVER about how they're not gonna do this or that, but everyone has seen games killed for underperforming, multiversus is not an exception to this.

[heady agate]

💯

[indigo valve]

It's not like everyone doesn't want the game to do well, player first games, but you guys are really EARNING the game's death here.

[quiet hinge]

Who thought fighter road and its implementation was a good idea? I'd check them for head trauma. Something's goin' on up there. If this causes me to miss out on the "raven only" nodes in the rift and not complete the event because I didn't pay up, I'm done with this game. It's like devolution. Wanna kill your game altogether? Keep doing what your doing.

[quick vortex]

IF you bring back Weaken PLEASE ACTUALLY HAVE WHAT IT DO WHAT THE WORDS SAY which is make you deal LESS damage and LESS knockback NOT take MORE damage and MORE knockback

[heady agate]

Is Player First Games Really that afraid of the Harley Simps if Harley “D-Air Mashing, F-Air Jump Spamming, Stupid Charging N-air hitting From Behind, Zero Skill taking” Quinn’s Moves are Ever NERFED TO THE GROUND?!?

[tired shard]

you'd basically only need to do like 3-4 nodes with a partner, and you'd be good on the rift event without Raven.

[feral harness]

I mean saying removing paying to get a character 3 days early is bad I don't fully agree

One of their best forms of monetization but I think 3 days early should mean you get to play them at the end of last season early

[quiet hinge]

Cool, but I play solo, as many others do. Are we supposed to be penalized for that?

[winged jungle]

they should add naked skins so this game can revive

[tired shard]

I mean, I've haven't had a problem lfg'ing a partner here, at least. Casual queue can help pairing up with someone as well.

[heady agate]

Time to Nerf Raven Already!!

[grizzled bane]

Oh yeah, Harley has a sweet spot if you hit from behind with Nair hammer

[quiet hinge]

The times I have done so, neither have I. That said, does there need to be a work-around for EVERYTHING in this game? Also, fighter road is still garbage compared to the old system.

[heady agate]

They need to either A. REDUCE THE DAMAGE AND KNOCKBACK BY A LOT SO IT DOES GIVE YOU EASY KILLS or B. Decrease the hitbox and INCREASE THE HURTBOX.

[grizzled bane]

Or C. Actually only let the move hit from the front half and not hit, let alone sweet spot, from the back

[heady agate]

I guess the Sweetspot can stay on the bottom half so that way it’s not cheesy and cheap. Making it more realistic as a fighter move

[grizzled bane]

No no, not the bottom half. Where the swing ends at in the back.

[heady agate]

So only the front no longer back so that way I’m understanding clearly

[sonic folio]

honestly cutting the EXP gain by half feels pretty disgusting, game progress feels so much slower now

[quiet hinge]

When the purpose of playing becomes grinding, the developer has truly lost the plot. That seems to be the theme of S4.

[sonic folio]

i know the game can be better, but there is so much grinding now, cutting half of the exp gain.... removing fighter currency and making characters 15k exp to unlock... 2 battlepasses in one season making it technically longer... and the new characters arent even in the battlepass

its like the saw the flaws in game progression, and instead of making the one we had better, they decided on a new method with just as many flaws

[eternal moon]

Take the platforms off of rank

Give Smith 4 bullet he doesn't need all those bullet

How can people doge bac to bac

Make Harley faster and her spaciel like she is supposed to be give her a real gun and her hammer needs to be buff it is a strong attack come on do it

[neon kite]

We need voice chat in game by like yesterday.

[eternal moon]

How is lebron faster than her and his basketball should disappear like Batman batteries that lasts a long time to disappear.this is some bull that even his attack is stronger than Harley should all most be like Arya give her some updated spaciel breaker all of this taking over her spaciel and destroying it is bull yall need to give her an update this glove gun isn't doing it anymore give her a real one

[grizzled bane]

I'd rather not hear the rage of the Shaggy who would think they'd win by spamming sandwiches and t-bagging

[eternal moon]

And u should get out mid combo whan u hit the doge button but it doesn't work

[neon kite]

It wont be all good but I would love to be able to communicate with my teamate

[quiet hinge]

I'd argue it has more flaws. Everything now is like chipping through a brick wall with a toothbrush. 0 fun.

[foggy ether]

Ngl. Feels like no one was nerfed

Also Raven jab whiff lag is way too long

The game got a speed buff and she feels slow

So she hecka slow

[sonic folio]

in all honestly? yeah, feels much slower

[mossy hill]

Ehhh

We velma main still waiting and waiting

Esp with shield added, its killing velmas

[grand pagoda]

Fighter road feels way to grindy and I don’t want to have to spend so much time on this game for a character I don’t even want just to get to a relevant character like 3 seasons later like I’ve been playing a good bit and I’m nowhere close to completing one character I just want it to be even slightly easier because it feels like this was setup in a way to force people to just buy the characters since it would take so long to reach them on fighter road

[foggy ether]

Raven needs buff

[astral palm]

Raven is very fun to play but also very hard to kill knockout people with her moves

[feral harness]

if she got more jab range and rocks could fall through platforms she would be perfect

[violet lantern]

PS5 version's been crashing on me A LOT. It didn't used to...

[upper wing]

mainly just buff her killpower bc god she has a hard time getting ringouts sometimes

[mossy hill]

her Sair knockback and her jab 2 knockback are big tho

[foggy ether]

Yeah, I agree with that!

[feral harness]

sick

[foggy ether]

Pretty much the kill power that she has is from forward air and up air.

[upper wing]

just had jab2 not kill jason at 150 at ledge

he should 100% be dying there

[mossy hill]

ok thats i dunno

[foggy ether]

I really feel that her nair hitbox doesn't match the animation. The two spheres pass through my opponent without hitting sometimes.

Her down air is also super skinny and weird.

Her jab 1 is short but the end lag on whiff is horrible.

I also hope that she will be buffed so her normals can more easily connect to Lenore combos

[upper wing]

yeah nair weirdly likes to whiff when it clearly hits sometimes, also sair hitbox is weird

[foggy ether]

Yeah her Sair is short too but I can let it pass because its fast and powerful. Which is good! That shouldn't be nerfed. Its the equivalent of Bugs up air basically.

Knockback wise

[mossy hill]

you can say the same thing with velma

[foggy ether]

Velma Sair same thing?

Short but strong?

[upper wing]

raven would be perfectly balanced in a world where the top tiers actually got nerfed

[mossy hill]

yep

it dealt like 10-20 damage per hit

[foggy ether]

Exactly… because of other characters top tiers I'm not buying any argument that Raven is “broken”.

[foggy ether]

Dang

[upper wing]

shes the most balanced char in the game rn

everything on her is fair and she doesnt have anything broken

[mossy hill]

but cuz the range so short AF

she is so bad

[upper wing]

she's good in 2v2 and i think thats what devs care about w her

[calm bolt]

gameplay could benefit from anti-overlap/fighter repulsion. enemies being allowed to overlap passively causes too many unexpected whiffs because attacks are hitting behind the hurtboxes while the characters are visibly inside each other.

[stiff nest]

shields feel amazing. I'm surprise y'all still haven't added it to the game permanently yet. like, I'll play Testing Grounds 1v1 & 2v2s any day over ranked mode

[mossy hill]

bruh

shield is horrible

esp for characters like velma

velma literally got fked BY SHIELD

[upper wing]

i love losing to players that just have the advantage because of the character select screen, actually stop buffing characters and start nerfing broken ones

[stiff nest]

idk what u're talking about I used to main Velma and shields feel completely fine on every character. it just so happens that she has bad frame data out of shield which can be easily fixed

[mossy hill]

i suggest just ask @versed wagon @paper grotto and other velma main

they said shield will kill velma

COMPLETEDLY

i might over exagerrate but its the truth

[stiff nest]

u're thinking about the now, I'm thinking so much far ahead. of course, there will always be characters that are better than others, but at least with shields it allows the gameplay to flow more smoothly

[versed wagon]

Shields will definetly kill velma

[mossy hill]

like again

u have to think that shield fully block projectile

and 2 out of 3 most used move for velma are PROJECTILES

2 out of 4 (i forgot to count camera)

camera,flashlight, Neutral (bubble) and megaphones

[stiff nest]

listen, nobody cares about that. every Velma player has wanted Velma to have better frame data. they nerfed That's Flammable Doc, aka, the whole reason to run away and spam projectiles

[unborn urchin]

Personally not a big fan of the arena game mode . Especially cause I keep getting partnered with bots that don't do diddly

[mossy hill]

they already took way alot utility just for velma able spam projectiles and they never buffing her which also main problem and adding shield RN is definitely worst sht you ever do

even tho in future they will buff her BUT WHEN

THATS THE PROBLEM

[upper wing]

can we make the report button actually do something, ranked is full of salty teammates that will start throwing themselves off the ledge after losing a stock

[stiff nest]

ok so u want the entire game to feel awful just because ur one character has the possibility to not be good? that's incredibly selfish I would say. shields are the best thing to happen to this game so far

[mossy hill]

well

insert fkin WW

who is been dominating

EVERY SINGLE GAME

and barely nerfed

also good in BOTH game mode

shield still a bad addition currently because how THERES NO IN COMMAND GRAB

and you asking shield RN with 0 in command grab on some character

[stiff nest]

whatever bro. PFG should do what they know is the best for Multiversus

[mossy hill]

which they prob putting shield in 2 season max

or less

[merry fjord]

Some of the characters that I own say I still need to unlock them when I view the perks page.

Some of them can even be seen having my custom perks already applied.

[mossy hill]

thats a bug

just restart the game usually it fixed

[merry fjord]

A bug? In MULTIVERSUS? How shocking!
I'll give it a try thanks lol

[mossy hill]

that bug sincve seasonj 1 btw

[merry fjord]

lmao

[upper wing]

remove the concede button in 2v2, or make it so both players have to press it

[vale basalt]

I wish blocking players actually worked the way it's supposed to, doing it feels quite pointless.

[mossy hill]

blocking players just prevent them invite you and add you

thats all

[indigo valve]

4 daily missions.

I like how you said you fixed this last season, yet here's that same bug, AGAIN.

Common trend of you saying you've "fixed" something when actually that's not the case. Like fighter road!

I was gonna post an example of how you've said this is an "easier" or "better way" of unlocking characters, you may have said it on a stream or something, but you definitely didn't say so on the blog post. Nothing's getting fixed with you guys is the point.

not REALLY

[mossy hill]

@indigo valvewhat even worst EVERY SINGLE UPDATE they did

it always broke velma van lol

[indigo valve]

It's a comedy of errors at this point

[mossy hill]

pretty muchhhh

wanna see the new velma bug?

[indigo valve]

please

[mossy hill]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/YkwXpx8zTC