game-feedback

[charred blade]

Havent gotten warmed up yet so i havent attempted ranked

[indigo prism]

I still can't get in

[sharp fjord]

big mistake queuing up for ranked

game froze

man, it's hard to like this game

so fkn hard

[noble root]

do you guys think taz dash attack is a problem?

[deep badger]

Alright who’s the genius who woke up and decided cook with some wayy better skins 💀

[sturdy dagger]

No he's very vulnerable if he misses

[noble root]

its so fast though and it does alot of knockback

maybe im playin a slow character but its hard to read

[sturdy dagger]

There are very few reasons for Taz to be on the ground. Assume if he's approaching you, he's gonna dash.

[autumn estuary]

the fern pfp i saw in the season 3 battlepass in my dream last night wasn't him with his hair out like i wanted but i think it was him holding up one of those finn cupcakes which was also cute

[noble root]

he keeps bating me to just do my dash attack counter 😔

[stone ermine]

they really need to nerf batman's down aerial special

[fierce juniper]

Hard indeed i keep getting disconnect after winning the first game and sometimes i lose points cause of that, they need go make rematch optional and giving the points after every match instead of after the bo3, also the matchmaking for me at least is only finns and samurai jack im really trying but the game is just not being fun at all

[sturdy dagger]

There's no answer to the guessing aspect of fighters. You gotta find a pattern, think of a solution and hope it works.

[sharp fjord]

2 matches versus a fkn morty is not worth 10 points

[lofty beacon]

Day 10 of asking to be able to decline matches.

[turbid rover]

No

[tough wren]

servers down for anyone?

[vagrant perch]

no

[tough wren]

lol the game just kicked me for no reason

[lofty beacon]

Depends on who you’re playing

[upper wing]

actually nerf gizmo already instead of all these slaps on the wrist you give him

[turbid rover]

Gizmo doesn’t need a nerf?

[upper wing]

yes he does lmfao, probably the char with the safest options in the game rn

[turbid rover]

He’s a mage? He’s supposed to play safe what’s the problem car gets destroyed easily he is the lightest character in the game weak recovery and his main good move is umbrella and even that is punishable

[foggy ether]

PFG DEVS

I am LOVIN the Cybernetic skins some of the best by far! Like the Ayra one is probably the coolest skin in game.
The banners are really cool, except that our character blocks the silhouette. There's gotta be a way for banners to be more visible? Idk.

Though I really like these and how we can unlock things with cybucks. There isn't much to unlock with cybucks. I wish the shop was better

Also I really think the Blastzones feel too close.
It feels weird to dominate someone but then get hit by two weak moves and die at side or something.
(with no burnout)

[upper wing]

a mage that has extremely oppressive ladders because of big lingering up attacks with barely any endlag, and arrows that are completely safe that will lead into combos/kills. him being light doesnt matter because hes so small and hard to hit, falls out of combos that work on most chars too

[quick vortex]

god yes i feel like i die sometimes to early

[turbid rover]

Steven’s a support with ladders jokers a mage with ladders also? Arrows are a good projectile like are you gonna complain about jokers cards because they’re good too? It also only leads to kill confirms if you get hit by them at a high percent off stage which a mage does him being light does matter because he dies at 60-90 most games also what combos are you doing where he just falls out?

[upper wing]

jokers cards arent even comparable? they work completely different, and steven doesnt even really have ladders, he just sharks and hopes he hits you???

[dense cipher]

can we fix jason's hurtbox ?

[mossy hill]

which its hard for certain char

[mossy hill]

:) insert velma

[turbid rover]

Steven has ladders if you can get a setup on his up special also jokers cards are comparable since they can easily do more damage then gizmos arrow since he can choose which card he wants meaning he can always go for the big card everytime these are mage characters they need to have good projectiles

[upper wing]

gizmo's arrow doesnt need to stop doing what it does, but it definitely needs to be not be as free as it is, he's able to dodge out of it too quickly without any punishment, and his up air needs some actual endlag on it- if you get out of his ladder most of the time he'll just put you back into it

[turbid rover]

His arrows lose to a lot of anti projectile things which most characters have in their kit so it’s not that big of a deal also Rick can dodge out of meeseeks his up air is a combo potential move also if you dodge away or down pretty sure you dodge it and I’ve person fought good gizmos and have only been put into ladder when I ran out of dodge

[queen sand]

Fix Analog DI, I keep getting miss inputs. Thought it was just me for a bit but labbed the registration, it's a bit wonky af

Had a lot of games dropped because game read my simple Left input as Diagnol, back (down+back)

and buff Jokers down attack hitbox, misses for no reason and I practically would be on top of my opponent

[foggy ether]

Also, I've been waiting to say this
Because I know its controversial.

PFG DEVS

Samurai Jack needs a damage buff. Or some kind of knockback buff on at least one move. A fully charged up special struggles to kill for example. His forward air fully charged is also very very weak. Perhaps nerf his focus gain but increase the damage of it?

[sharp fjord]

fk off

[mossy hill]

tbh

if they gonna nerf his hitbox alot

they need adjust osmehting bout him prob

[foggy ether]

Remember your statistics?
There's only 2 Jacks in top 100 1v1 and like 3 in 2v2.

[foggy ether]

I guarantee you. Once he is nerfed. Because I know he will be because of all the complaints. He will be one of the worst characters in game. Unless they buff him in some way. I just gave one way they can.

[mossy hill]

they need nerf his hitbox 100%

cuz his hitbox is ridiculous

[foggy ether]

As long as its a fair. I don't care. But he needs a buff. Or he's gonna be complete garbage.

[turbid rover]

Yeah this happens to like most characters

The community don’t know what they want honestly

And when Jack is bad

Even more complaints

[foggy ether]

Yup. Its super annoying.

[mossy hill]

meanwhile velma 🤣

cuz none use her NOBODIES COMPLAINED BOUT HER

[turbid rover]

Velma isn’t the worst character anymore she’s more balanced at least what more do you want for the character

[mossy hill]

her attack hitbox kinda too small tho

[foggy ether]

What even is her running side special lol? Like what the

[turbid rover]

Cry me a river

[mossy hill]

against certain MU

[turbid rover]

😭

[turbid rover]

Ur not supposed to use it honestly unless ur edge guarding

[mossy hill]

her ground side could get rework into something else

[mossy hill]

lmao its even worst for edge guard

[turbid rover]

No?

Sometimes you can get hit from ledge lmao

[foggy ether]

Was it intended that way? That's the real question

[turbid rover]

Yeah

[mossy hill]

cuz if they be patient u just get end lag fall unable to dodge

[foggy ether]

YeH

[turbid rover]

Even in beta nobody used it

[turbid rover]

Then don’t use the move?

[mossy hill]

and u just said use it for edge guard WOWWWWW

now which one is right -.-

[turbid rover]

Yeah you can use it for edge guarding

You don’t HAVE to use the move lmao

I’ve hit plenty of ppl with side special for edge guarding

And don’t randomly use it in neutral

Does Velma need all her buttons to be good

No

[mossy hill]

man the game really hate me rn

cannot match make for 8 more minutes -.-

just cuz their netcode

[foggy ether]

PFG DEVS

I am LOVIN the Cybernetic skins some of the best by far! Like the Ayra one is probably the coolest skin in game.
The banners are really cool, except that our character blocks the silhouette. There's gotta be a way for banners to be more visible? Idk.

Though I really like these and how we can unlock things with cybucks. There isn't much to unlock with cybucks. I wish the shop was better

Also, I've been waiting to say this
Because I know its controversial.

PFG DEVS

Samurai Jack needs a damage buff. Or some kind of knockback buff on at least one move. A fully charged up special struggles to kill for example. His forward air fully charged is also very very weak. Perhaps nerf his focus gain but increase the damage of it?

[turbid rover]

You want samurai Jack to get a damage buff when he kills very early?

And gets weakened

[turbid rover]

Charged side special can kill at 100 and off stage it’s even worse

[foggy ether]

What move kills “early”? Nope it doesn't

[turbid rover]

His fair is a keep away attack not supposed to be a good damage dealer

[foggy ether]

He needs it

[turbid rover]

His side special kills early?

You can kill at 40

If you didn’t know

[turbid rover]

He doesn’t

[foggy ether]

It doesn't. And 100 isn't early LOL

[turbid rover]

It does have you ever hit his side special off stage?

His grab also can kill pretty well

[foggy ether]

I'm one of the most experienced Jacks here

[turbid rover]

Cool I guess? 😭

[foggy ether]

If you don't believe me, you should play him more

[foggy ether]

Nah dude because thats a stupid question

[turbid rover]

You can literally kill early off stage and you have amazing tools for off stage pressure?

So I don’t understand

[foggy ether]

Kill confirms. And kill moves. He has none. He's a heavy reader. And a great edge guarder.

Not to mention he lacks combo game. But that's self explanatory

[turbid rover]

You want ur character that can already do very good damage to do even more damage and think that it won’t be a issue

[turbid rover]

Not every character needs good combo game?

Ur character has insane specials a very good jab easy air to air strings

I mean what more can you want

[foggy ether]

He struggles to kill. Its ok if you disagree

[turbid rover]

And you get free grey health

[turbid rover]

So killing at 100 is struggling to kill

😭

[foggy ether]

YES

especially when half the cast can kill earlier than that

Holy cow bruh

He can't even kill at 100 anyway

It be like 145

Struggle at 100

[turbid rover]

His jab string can kill at 100 too

[foggy ether]

No it doesn't lol

Side special doesn't even kill Superman at 135

Even at ledge

I got it recorded

[turbid rover]

Do I have to send clips of me killing at 100 with jab and dash attack?

[foggy ether]

So you can't say crap

[foggy ether]

I got clips too!

[foggy ether]

Dash attack is an actual kill move ill give you that

His jab string can kill but at high percents. So that's out of the convo

[turbid rover]

Do you use last stand on Jack?

[foggy ether]

No

[turbid rover]

That’s ur problem

😭

If you run last stand ur jab is killing at 100

Don’t even need 3 stacks

I killed Superman too

[foggy ether]

Well sometimes recently. Only like 25% of games

[turbid rover]

Last stand and 5% ur gonna kill early

And snowball

[foggy ether]

Just no way. Even when you do you yourself can die early because the other character can kill earlier than you can. As well as the move has end lag

So it give them enough time for follow up

[turbid rover]

What are you talking abt

What move?

[foggy ether]

Well start up frames too I guess. Sair

I want to see his frames compared to others

[turbid rover]

You can kill at 100 with sair too

Fair

[foggy ether]

Yeah, like off ledge

No way that's killing on stage

Maybe on a assassin

Like. I just jab 3 a Arya at ledge above 100 they didn't die with Last Stand

On Townsville

Just jabbed 3 a BG at 100 on dexters lab didn't die. With last stand. At ledge

He was above 100 actually

[turbid rover]

Obviously

[turbid rover]

Were you at 100 and had the eye effect? Also pretty sure the blast zone is further away on that map works on sky arena tho

[foggy ether]

Ok so that's out the convo. I'm not talking about edge guard

[foggy ether]

Hm. I couldn't tell honestly

[turbid rover]

You are literally the only person that wants samurai Jack to the point where he can kill on stage

Which is stupid

Would make him even better of a character

[foggy ether]

What is stupid? That I'm the only person or what I said? Because I'm not stupid

[foggy ether]

Also. I'm not the only player either

[autumn estuary]

fern

[turbid rover]

That you want a good character to be buffed even more when he doesn’t need it

[foggy ether]

I'm mostly saying it because Im certain he will be nerfed

[turbid rover]

Yeah but they’ll prob pull a joker with him

[foggy ether]

Details on that? Not sure what

[turbid rover]

They nerfed joker and he was still good

[foggy ether]

Jack not as good though

[turbid rover]

Jack is like A tier him dropping to B isn’t crazy

[foggy ether]

Lol….

[turbid rover]

If you don’t think Jack is mid A to low A ur insane

[foggy ether]

I agree he's A tier.

But in my mind that's only temporary

[turbid rover]

Yeah like I said he’ll prob only drop to B tier

[foggy ether]

Joker didn't

He was literally broken

But I don't think we should have that mentality.

“Ah its ok. Hell drop to B tier”.
But its whatever

[quick vortex]

i have literally seen jacks counter attack armor come up but i get hit as if i didn't please fix or make the armor come on the same frame i use it i am tired of losing games because of it
also sometimes when it does work the sword slash doesn't come out sometimes even when the animation plays

[foggy ether]

PFG DEVS

I am LOVIN the Cybernetic skins some of the best by far! Like the Ayra one is probably the coolest skin in game.
The banners are really cool, except that our character blocks the silhouette. There's gotta be a way for banners to be more visible? Idk.

Though I really like these and how we can unlock things with cybucks. There isn't much to unlock with cybucks. I wish the shop was better

Also, I've been waiting to say this
Because I know its controversial.

PFG DEVS

Samurai Jack needs a damage buff. Or some kind of knockback buff on at least one move. A fully charged up special struggles to kill for example. His forward air fully charged is also very very weak. Perhaps nerf his focus gain but increase the damage of it?

[foggy ether]

Also… I think I enjoy the game more in 2v2.

Just, more fun

[sturdy dagger]

Does anyone knows how the hell Batman is doing dash attack without even walking.

[stuck cave]

You can double tap forward and hit attack and it will do a dash attack

Not that the game tells you this anywhere, I had to learn it off either here or the subreddit too lol

[sturdy dagger]

The more you know 💫

Ty

[mossy hill]

add auto toasat option

so u dont have to waste your time press toast if u want speedrun the match

[foggy ether]

BEETLEJUICE BEETLEJUICE BEETLEJUICE

[mossy hill]

insert beetle juice song

yknow which song i meant

man why down air for jack IS HIT 180 DEGREE

legit 180

cuz even u below him it hit u

[mossy hill]

man nerf frickin taz neutral air

it just instant 17 and long hitstun

[mossy hill]

yep jason need adjustment

[upper aspen]

imposible to combat against shaggy

[mossy hill]

I CANT EVEN HIT HIM CUZ HIS HITBOX MUCH BIGGER THAN VELMAS

I tried hit him with flash light

guess what got hit first? ME with his side attack

velma really really need buff on her hitboxes

[fierce juniper]

Where can i report a player using lag switch?

Theres no report system in game

[mossy hill]

@fierce juniper go to your friend list then there is recent

u can see the recent matched player

PFG please nerf black adam mobility

he way TOO MOBILE AS FRICKIN HEAVY WEIGHT CHARACTER

[fierce juniper]

I didnt know that, thanks

[lusty sparrow]

why is only rick and morty 20xxl epic skins cybuck purchasable? what makes the harley, tnj and superman ones different? they are epic skins too. make them cost 17000 cybucks.

[mossy hill]

they need money obviously ehh dont ask me why they set only those

they knew people would grab arya most likely

[lusty sparrow]

i can understand arya being gleem only. she hardly gets good skins

[safe perch]

Fix the "Poor Connection Error" for 2v2s

Smh

[autumn estuary]

have you considered an ethernet cable

[lofty beacon]

lol

[gentle zinc]

lol x2

Ramattra enjoyer.

[safe perch]

I’m using one

I have 70-80MB a second for my download rate, pretty sure that’s not poor connection

[teal hemlock]

Nerf samurai jack before i have an anurism dear god im so tired of getting jab fished and then side specialed 3 times its bull samurai jack sould have been a harder character instead hes the new banana gaurd its beyond irritating

[ionic furnace]

@stiff swallow have you quit posting the same message here every day? does the game have offline mode?

[hexed oracle]

AND YET AGAIN LAG MAKES ME KILL MYSELF FOR A LOSS. PFG ARE ACTUAL BRAINLETS

I'm uninstalling. Screw this broken piece of trash

[stiff swallow]

Sadly no, so I can't in good conscience spend money on the game

[mossy hill]

@stone sluice ok i saw that the BETA attack dcay also reduce hitstuns

[hushed wasp]

What is going on with the Game now?
maybe the devs know the Game has server problems BUT why you still have best of 3 if you cant handle it with the server?

Other question someone have the Same Problem against Finn? His jab has everytime prio and this annoying death combo..

If you find some wrong words sry, my english is Not the best 🫠

[stuck sable]

I really do not like the best out of 3 system. Please remove it, matches were a lot less frustrating and unfair before.

[mossy hill]

i been saying this alot but NERF BLACK ADAM MOBILITY + HIS PALM SMASH

that armor breaker move hitbox is really big AF

[stuck sable]

Jack and Arya are completely broken.

[mossy hill]

jack arent broken BUT BS hitboxes

what is this logic

superman grabbed me but the van was literally on him

HOW THE VAN NOT GRABBING THE SUPERMAN

[stone sluice]

It also had way more of an effect

[mossy hill]

they prob dont need brought 100% beta attack decay

they could just bring whatever needed

[tacit aspen]

Fix your game

all my combos are slow, cant tell if the servers suck ass or my system sucks

[mossy hill]

Sometimes if the game delayed so hard than normally

Its cuz stupid netcode

[tacit aspen]

im getting non stop combod while i get dodged 2 hits into my combo, doesnt make sense

bring back the beta

[mossy hill]

i get theres alot variation character BUT some of the character is frutrating face against like WTF man

finn 0 to kill

[mossy hill]

for that 2 hit then dodge 2 hit its predictable sometimes

[tacit aspen]

i get that but i cant dodge out while getting combod but my moves are so slow they easily dodge out every time

[stiff swallow]

So if Taz isn't allowed to hold his upsmash sandwich infinitely anymore, logically, Finn should not be allowed to infinitely hold his attacks either

[mossy hill]

taz has 3 sec while finn... HE HAS LIKE 5 OR MORE SEC

for duration

[tacit aspen]

he doesnt its just a lot longer than everyone else

[mossy hill]

also

they need fix velma hitbox or buff it

cuz its small AF

[tacit aspen]

buff velma altogether, im hitting all match and end up 88 dmg?

[tacit aspen]

is it normal velma doesnt do a lot even if im getting hits all match?

[stuck sable]

MMR ranked system with FORCED rematches against people SIGNIFICAMNTLY HIGHER RANK THAN YOU IS THE WORST MOST UNFAIR GARBAGE

[lofty beacon]

Bruh, someone count how long Finn can hold his charges

[stuck sable]

NERF JACKS RANGE HOLY CRAP WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU DEVELOPERS

[mossy hill]

I do like 500 (if against steven...)

400 for like 90% of tanks roster

[mossy hill]

5 sec

[stuck sable]

What incompetent idiot thought Jack wasn't deserving of any nerfs last batch, what is wrong with you as a human. You are not right in the head

[mossy hill]

let them cook rn

seriously its soon be mid season patch too

like next week

[sharp fjord]

2 weeks

[mossy hill]

ehh?

damn it

mid season in 2 weeks?

[sharp fjord]

but the fact is that Jack shouldn't be in ranked in the first place

busted as it is

[mossy hill]

wait no its next week

[sharp fjord]

well, the event ends in 11 days

so I'm assuming midseason would be after that

[mossy hill]

didnt we got season for 60 days?

if yes

that means 10 more days

cuz the season end in 40 days

rn

[rose remnant]

FIX RANKED IM TIRED OF NOT PROGRESSING CUZ IT PUTS ME AGAINST WAY BETTER PLAYERS

[swift bramble]

Does anyone know why only the Mecha Rick skin in the Prestige shop says "Exclusive"?

[mossy hill]

Tbh facing better players are fine but facing SPAMMER ARE ANNOYING AF

[rose remnant]

It's all fun and games until my mmr does not budge cuz I'm always losing

[rose remnant]

It's exclusive to that store but it'll stay there forever

[mossy hill]

Theres 1 time i was like so close for diamond 4 and guess what happend

Constant frickin DC no reason

[rose remnant]

Oh yeah that's why I didn't touch ranked much until today

[mossy hill]

Like

If im on fire

I will on fire

[rose remnant]

Only I've been bronze the whole time

[mossy hill]

But then the CANNOT MATCHMAKE MAKING ME GONE COLS

[rose remnant]

That and the desync making you run off the stage

I think that happened to the last person I played against :/

It was a pretty good game too

[swift bramble]

so the others rotate?

[rose remnant]

No everything stays there, they just add new stuff every season

[swift bramble]

I mean theyre all exclusive to that shop, why does just rick say exclusive?

[lofty beacon]

Jason’s weapons should not be sucked into Taz’s tornado

If Finn’s sword can stop it so should Jason’s weapons

[grizzled bane]

You better be fixing those server issues literally everyone's complaining about. I don't need to be lagging and losing control of my character when YOU PUT ME AGAINST A BOT

[rose remnant]

I honestly think it's a scare tactic cuz the Joker skin is still there but says the same thing

[sharp fjord]

You guys really need to do something about dodging multihits... It's fkn stupid that people can simply edgeguard with multihits and we can't dodge out of it... It's fkn stupid!!!

Like Jack's up attack... You simply can't do anything about it... You dodge the first, but the second hit will send you right where you were trying to escape from

[zealous lion]

I can't buy the skins I want with cybucks, so I was like "I will spend everything in toast" and then I can only buy FIVE groups of toast with cybucks ? 😛 Why are you guys putting a limit on TOAST ?

[stone ermine]

after fightin a pfg tester called zurkon
yeah now i understand your hate with samurai jack

[smoky reef]

They should not add penalty for disconnecting from a game bc what if I have bad internet or if the servers are just bad for ranked at least fix ur game

[foggy ether]

Taz,Finn,TnJ all need specific nerfs

[gentle zinc]

Drop your heat. Let's see what you're cooking.

[gentle zinc]

That is weird

[sharp fjord]

Just wanted to let the devs know that matches are being thrown because nobody can stand some of the matchups

nice job

[iron spoke]

The desync bug is extremely annoying

Ah yes, I love it when my character walks off the stage where I can't even stop them from doing it

[gentle zinc]

Lost a game to that and got teabagged . It was such a let down but can't be mad when the game did it to me

[iron spoke]

It makes Multiversus infuriating to since it can happen anytime

[gentle zinc]

Yeah and it's just luck of the draw if you get it happening to you. My friend has been getting it a lot though for me it's once a day at best

[foggy ether]

TnJ paddle loop, but mainly that paddle.
Finn, 3 hit combo to death any percent. Each move is super good. Up attack is huge, to his kick that sends you way high up so much knockback, to his vacuum black hole backpack.
Taz, has questionable hitboxes like on tornado and has so many kill options. Hes kinda flying under the radar because he's really good or people don't want to talk about how good he actually is.

[gentle zinc]

Scared they'll butcher the paddle but other than that I agree with those

[autumn estuary]

tony write a rift path where arya has to go find fern after he ran off pissy about something during their training session and she has to save him from evil shaggy before evil shaggy smokes that fern pack, don't forget to add the amorous tension between fern and arya

[gentle zinc]

😂

[foggy ether]

I still want TnJ to have his combo but it shouldn't be that over the top good. Its super hard to escape. Especially because its charged and lasts so long. So the loop will just continue after getting hit. Rinse repeat.

0-84

[gentle zinc]

It is I still haven't remembered how many hits and I'll go for my follow up before it's actually over and they get away 😂

[foggy ether]

I've seen that

[foggy ether]

I've gotten away before, but there's been times when I haven't. And when I haven't I die

It shouldn't be. If you get away your ok but if you don't you die

Because those who are good enough to pull it off your not escaping bro

[rich lance]

Why is over half of the characters unavailable for purchase with fighter currency?!? Arya, Finn, Garnett, Harley, Jake, Lebron, Marvin, Morty, Stripe, Superman, T&J, Wonder Woman…. UNAVAILABLE WITH FIGHTER CURRENCY?!?! What are we doing here PF Games?

[gentle zinc]

Well I don't ever go for the loop I'd rather focus on the combos . Only time I try to loop is if it's IG or I'm needing time to think with Jason and I'm fighting Garnet or IG I'll try to loop em with the up special grab

[autumn estuary]

go to fighter store in the shop tab

[foggy ether]

Right, that little rocket kills at end of loop. I've played a ton of Jason, so its awful

[gentle zinc]

I love that rocket 😂 it's so cool to me

[foggy ether]

Which one? Jerry or the little one?

There's teo

Two

[gentle zinc]

Jerry rocket when in air I've started using it more when Jerry is out to crowd control the area they're trying to go through

Since the rocket will always go to Jerry I'll position myself so they'll have to keep the rocket in mind or get hit and if it misses I can make my next move and I love it

I can use it to distract for my fishing pole

Was always my favorite part of their kit and it got changed or something it feels different but the last two days of messing with it I'm getting use to it again

T&J , Jason are my go to boys they're so fun and the designs bring a genuine smile to my face when I find another detail. Like when Jason jumps up from ledge it makes a horror jump scare sound

[lost oracle]

Why are players punished for playing against Taz? Like he is doing an attack like Side special and I attack him for whiffing it, why am I punished? I hit him, not the other way around, but HE rings ME out because his knockback is too strong?

It's literally an "I win" button, you can't attack him because it trades in his favour, and you're forced into a situation where you have to run because the recovery after it finishes is too short.

Abysmal design. But hey, this is just the feedback channel, it's not like any of these devs actually read anything here, the only thing this place is good for is hosting their roundtables the day before a patch drops, so I'm talking to a wall.

[sharp fjord]

Jerry throw needs cooldown tho

[violet condor]

nerf arya

make her unplayable

please

for the love of god

[unborn urchin]

I think im going to stay away from rank . ive been habing an issue to whenever the server lags/ stops lagging , it speeds up and forces my character to run off stage .

I lost so many matches cause of this issue. not sure if its a me issue or if anyone else has been dealing with similar issues

[lost oracle]

Again lads, no point in providing feedback, the discord is good for nothing.

[stuck sable]

PLEAAAASE fix your game loading infinitely in the "match about to begin" screen. I don't wanna leave the match and get a penalty

[gentle zinc]

If you kill him there's one

[gentle zinc]

That's internet or the other person dc'd but I had the same thing happen yesterday. Thought the game froze

[sharp fjord]

it's impossible to kill him in like 90% of the times and you know it

3 hits is way too much

[gentle zinc]

If they're careful about it yeah it can be very hard. Who do you play?

[sharp fjord]

most of the times tom will just throw jerry at you and dash attack right back at him

so there's literally nothing you can do

and he'll keep spamming jerry the entire match

[gentle zinc]

Bro who do you play

[light salmon]

dodges need a larger i frame just a smidge

[sharp fjord]

Rick, but I've played many characters

[foggy ether]

Yup…. Taz is flying under radar. Like nobody talks about him.
He needs some nerfs.

[sonic folio]

theres quite a few characters that can one shot jerry

[foggy ether]

Don't even care about Jerry. Just that dang paddle move.

[gentle zinc]

That's why I was asking him too. @sharp fjord I wanna say Rick's down air one hits Jerry but if they're running at you after just jump and do a down button to punish it

[sonic folio]

the paddle is not that hard to avoid really

[sharp fjord]

rick's down air is horrible

tiny hitbox

[foggy ether]

Its the loop, and yes that paddle loop is hard to avoid

[sonic folio]

that i agree

[sharp fjord]

makes him super vulnerable

[sonic folio]

i know what you mean, it really is not that hard, its a matter of practice

[sharp fjord]

and has zero priority.... I wouldn't be surprised if tom's dash attack to recover jerry hit me instead of me hitting him with down air

seriously

Rick has 1 move with good priority

flying meeseek and that's it

all his other moves trade

and whip is more of a hurtbox than a hitbox

[sonic folio]

meseek is pretty good, now i just avoid it lmao

every time i try to challenge it i get screwed

[sharp fjord]

flying meeseeks is great, but you can hit Rick from bellow

the hitbox is only around meesek

you can hit from the side as well

just don't stand close when meeseek pops off

[sonic folio]

oh didnt know that!

[sharp fjord]

rick needs some work, honestly

he's great, but he needs priority and hitboxes checked

it's ridiculous when people hit my whip and I'm the one being hit

and such a tiny hitbox... it's literally 1 line

1 pixel width

[gentle zinc]

I'd recommend asking the Rick mains then

[sharp fjord]

I was Rick #27 not long ago

[gentle zinc]

Oh you're facing the best t&j players then

[sharp fjord]

what I mean is that I know what I'm talking about --'

[sonic folio]

im still in gold, gotta play ranked more but its hard to enjoy the game now lmao

[gentle zinc]

I'd still ask. Maybe they know something you dont

[sharp fjord]

it really is

I've been throwing matches left and right

no kidding

just because I don't wanna deal with some stuff

[sonic folio]

today my character didnt move AT ALL in ranked, so i just said "nope, not today"

[sharp fjord]

if Marvel Rivals was out, I'd only touch MVS after some HUGE balancing patch

I refuse to go back to overwatch

[sonic folio]

besides, this week i got no ranked missions, not sure if a bug or on purpose

[sharp fjord]

so here I am --'

ranked missions only give crap rewards

not worth doing them

they give like 100 perk points

who needs perk points anyway

[sonic folio]

true, just perk money if i remember

i only joined after the official release, and EVEN THEN i dont need it that much lmao

[sharp fjord]

it's not like we use all perks

we buy 2 of each type, tops

perks were a huge letdown on release

they had so many perks during the beta

they could really change your gameplay

now everything is generic af

[sonic folio]

i cant tell why they changed it tho, balancing would be hellish with how perks used to be

[sharp fjord]

well, it's unbalanced either way

very unbalanced

[sonic folio]

true lol

[sharp fjord]

can't blame the perks

[sonic folio]

me neither, just saying it would be worse

[sharp fjord]

but maybe, with other perks, some other characters would also be strong

and wouldn't have so much trouble with busted characters

[sonic folio]

velma

[sharp fjord]

velma is a great example

she has an ice move, right?

[sonic folio]

technically

[sharp fjord]

have you EVER seen anyone being frozen by that?

[sonic folio]

basically you use it to get the other up special lol

[sharp fjord]

yup

exactly

completely useless, and more of a hindrance than a move

[sonic folio]

same with down special

[sharp fjord]

in beta there was a perk that you could inflict more damage to people with freeze stacks

[sonic folio]

use it once and the move is GONE

[sharp fjord]

so you didn't have to freeze them, but if they stepped on it, at least you'd have a temporary damage buff

[sonic folio]

thats so much more useful

[sharp fjord]

right now, that move serves no purpose at all

on the contrary...

it hinders your kit

[sonic folio]

but being honest, that is such a specific perk that could only work with velma and superman

[sturdy dagger]

FFA still has the rewarding kills to the wrong player issue.

[sonic folio]

maybe banana

[sharp fjord]

that was but 1 example

there were many perks

triple jump too

[sonic folio]

yeah i remember seeing several

[sharp fjord]

it was nice

[sonic folio]

i do have to say, that is one of the reasons i didnt try it as much in beta

got overwhelming to know every little thing

and the speed was WHACK

[sharp fjord]

many new people dislike the speed now

but I think it's actually great

now you need to invest resources to be faster

[sonic folio]

i like the speed now

[sharp fjord]

gotta spend that meter

if you wanna attack faster

my matches definitely are not slow

unless I want them to be

[sonic folio]

i remember watching tournaments and it was basically just teleporting left and right, hoping to hit for a combo, then back to teleporting

[sharp fjord]

I thought they'd release more perks as time went by

but we got to season 2 without new perks

so idk anymore

[sonic folio]

they did say in the livestream more perks would be coming, but seeing as things are going now, its gonna take a while lol

[sharp fjord]

tbh, if things stay like this, I doubt this game will survive until next year

well, I guess this game might be healthier on consoles than on PC

[sonic folio]

i agree, i enjoy playing with friends, but matchmaking with random people is a struggle to enjoy

[sharp fjord]

but right now, it's pretty bad on PC

the lack of players

and most pc players have crossplay disabled

because there's too many issues with console stability

[sonic folio]

i have it enabled, and even then i struggle to find people

[sharp fjord]

doubles or singles?

[sonic folio]

just today i had a 100sec wait in doubles, 90 in singles

[sharp fjord]

I don't wait more than 30 seconds to find matches

in singles

with crossplay disabled

Oo

[sonic folio]

with crossplay enabled

[sharp fjord]

what rank?

you're talking about ranked or casual matchmaking?

[sonic folio]

gold, so shouldnt be that hard

[sharp fjord]

it shouldn't indeed

maybe it's a region thing, idk

[sonic folio]

even then, i get people from other ranks too lmao, ive fought bronze and plats while on gold

[sharp fjord]

I was matched with a masters 1 while being plat5

big nope

[sturdy dagger]

A lot of the signature perks feel like they took something away from the characters to make them perks.

[graceful holly]

in unranked i just wait 10 seconds but i have crossplay in singles. I assumed ranked is the way it is cause character balance and bo3 i don't think most people are gonna play Bo3 i know i won't

[bitter bramble]

if taz uses his up special and jason uses either his raged up air or raged aerial up special, Jason will get hit after he knock taz out of the move.
This interaction just lost me match

[graceful holly]

#bug-reporting ?

[sturdy dagger]

Jason has thicc hurtbox these things happen to him

[kind saffron]

Nerf Iron Giants Knockback (So they are easier to ringout at 100-140 damage instead of 150-220)

[bitter bramble]

idk if its a bug or unintentional side-effect of Jason's hitbox or something, but i guess i'll post it there too

[graceful holly]

to bad that guy is flat as a plank

[queen sorrel]

you use it for the slow not actual freeze buff, allow you to control stage with it 🙂

also once we use up special (and it puts flask down) we get access to up special ladders

[sharp fjord]

that's the thing... personally I feel like the ice is irrelevant, and it should go straight for the camera move

I actually think her kit is so counterintuitive

I fkn hate it

[queen sorrel]

help her zone a bit better, only thing i would personally change on velma is her notes, make respawn time faster outside of that she is fine, just not a combo machine like others but with decent neutral can navigate most matchups

[sharp fjord]

you wanna hit downwards? better press up... wanna hit left in the air, better hit right

[queen sorrel]

fair sends outwards ?? dair hits down, and if you want to pop people up you have up tilt up air ? what moves you talking about in particular ?

[sonic folio]

she does need something for down special tho, you use it once and thats a whole attack that is gone

[queen sorrel]

yeah and cooldown doesnt seem as drastic due to note already on a long timer to refill

i feel with faster note respawn rate (base) it would have more uses but now its just meh lol

i use it mostly to get the target note on people like book into note 1, then go from there

[sonic folio]

also i think air side special needs a better hitbox

its mostly for recovery -ish

[queen sorrel]

disagree imo, use it like arya aerial mask for spacing and you will see how to exploit it

idk i play mostly 1s so not sure how 2s meta is

[sonic folio]

i've heard she is still good in 2s

not sure tho

[sharp fjord]

you're telling us Velma is fine the way it is?

idk, man... I think her low pickrate shows most people disagree

[queen sorrel]

im okay with her , just meta is overtuned for 0td and jab fishing so she not strong in current meta

she just not a free win like other character so of course people going gravitate towards them, just like joker was at launch they change one move and now people was claiming he buns

im just thinking objectively overall like her kit is fine , could use a little touch up here and there but dont believe she is bad just current meta doesnt allow her to shine , since if you hold forward (like you can with almost everyone else) you get bodied

[sonic folio]

velma relies too much in spacing, which most other characters do not, she def needs a bit more

[sharp fjord]

the meta is so rushed

[queen sorrel]

exactly people dont want to play the game, just want to hold forward mash buttons and win

^

[sonic folio]

i dont need her to be a killing machine, but to be better at challenging pretty much the whole roster lol

[queen sorrel]

if you dont have a 0td or a loop you bad in the current meta

once loops get toned down and defense gets better (more frequent parries) she will start to shine a bit more

[sharp fjord]

morty doesn't usually rely on loops

and he does fine

[queen sorrel]

atm you barely seeing parrys even in most comp play

[sharp fjord]

ww too

[queen sorrel]

dirt the character lol

[sonic folio]

if i ever parry, is on accident

[queen sorrel]

most people its like that and with the way game is no one is being forced to practice them since most options even on whiff leaves you in a good situation

[sharp fjord]

jack doesn't rely on loops

[queen sorrel]

jack gets rocked in comp play

i mean tourney not unranked or low level ladders

i think we had one in top 8 last week though

frost series event

anyway back to marvel ❤️ , play velma peeps get your yap on lol

[sonic folio]

i really want to play velma lol, she just needs a little fix for me

i just love zoners

[sharp fjord]

you'd probably enjoy playing Rick then

[queen sorrel]

i started playing her a troll since i started MVS towards the end of beta and everyone was saying she bad i picked her week one and noticed im like okay she can do stuff just has to work hard but you can control neuch so well, just a lot of little things that matter with her that not as important to others

[sharp fjord]

he's a balanced mix of zoner and rusher

[sonic folio]

i tried rick, couldnt use him at full potential

[sharp fjord]

he's hard to learn, but once you get a grip on the portal you'll do fine

[sonic folio]

yeah, the portal is the main thing i struggle with

[queen sorrel]

like using notes to recover, using flask to control stage, setting note one , then up tilt up air finish with note before it demarks them, alot of niche stuff others dont have ot manage

[sharp fjord]

the trick is sliding the aim a little bit towards you when the enemy is small

big enemies are easy and satisfying to combo at

but it's hard to connect on smaller characters

unless you do what I told you

slide a little bit towards you and you'll land on them

[sonic folio]

also real question, what do the classes mean in this game?

[sharp fjord]

I mean, he's not S tier, but he's an A-Tier that can get the job done in most situations

[sharp fjord]

I think that right now they're related to the weight only

[sonic folio]

i thought it was like gameplay

[autumn estuary]

except tank steven is light af

[sharp fjord]

true, good point

[sonic folio]

yeah

[sharp fjord]

at first I thought it was gameplay too, but having morty as a bruiser the way he plays makes no sense

so idk

[sonic folio]

like i thought mage was like a zoner ish, relying in specials, but joker is lowkey a rushdown

[sharp fjord]

is joker a mage????

fr?

[sonic folio]

or assasins bein rushdown, but marvin is a zoner lmao

[sharp fjord]

wtf

[sonic folio]

steven plays like a bruiser, but is a tank and light

[sharp fjord]

makes no sense joker being a mage and dying at 140

I gave up on understanding PFG reasoning, really

[sonic folio]

lmao

i was wondering if i was the only one not understanding the classes

im just BEGGING for consistency

[sharp fjord]

you'll find none in this game

[sonic folio]

[gentle zinc]

Characters are all unique so the consistency won't really exist. Steven can't be heavy unless they use the older version of him but it's not his iconic look

[sharp fjord]

she shouldn't be tank

being able to walk under most projectiles

[gentle zinc]

Joker being a mage fits his character since you don't know what he'll do being crazy and all

[sharp fjord]

joker should be a bruiser by his gameplay

[gentle zinc]

Steven could've been a bruiser but shield powers so..tank

[sharp fjord]

morty should be a mage

[gentle zinc]

Yeah to both of those 😂

[sonic folio]

but he throws the shields, mage works too, makes more sense at least

[sturdy dagger]

Bruiser is medium good damage

Assassin: glass cannon,

tank:armor or high life

Mage: strong projectile

Of course these boundaries are inconsistent. Morty has a powerful projectile game for instance.

[hardy topaz]

Many characters fall into more of a duo class category, some triple. Garnet is a Brawler Tank, Steven is an aggressive support tank.

Joker is a Mage Brawler, and can be knocked out at 80 by most.

I like this better than having characters completely confined to traditional rules by these roles. MvS does a good job of making each character feel unique and varied.

[gentle zinc]

^

[sonic folio]

yeah, main reason why i was so confused about it

[hardy topaz]

That's why I was happy they made everyone playable in the Lab

This allows people to really discover the play styles these characters can have

[sonic folio]

i still dont feel steven as a tank tho, at least for me, it still feel more of a mage, as he relies a lot on the projectiles

[gentle zinc]

I love using their shield placement against them

[sonic folio]

like i get you get armor if you hold dodge, but bruisers also get armor in attacks lol

[hardy topaz]

As a Steven main in the beta, he 100% isn't a projectile focused player and doesn't rely heavily on the projectiles as he does on the walls and ceilings he makes

[sonic folio]

i also main steven, in my eyes i do consider the shields projectiles at least

[hardy topaz]

Steven has unique armored shield

Most armor has to be activated by charging, locking movement and taking time to build up, excluding Super Cheese Man

Steven can just flip it like a switch, which also helps parry timing.

[sonic folio]

i think they nerfed that

[hardy topaz]

Steven is light yet heavy, he floats but is difficult to knock out

Yeah, but only slightly

[sonic folio]

true

[hardy topaz]

Steven still A+ tier.

[sonic folio]

oh definately

[hardy topaz]

I currently play Garnet in ranked

People try to tell me Garnet is broken, but that just tells me they're bad at the game.

[sonic folio]

really?

i mostly hear she is low tier

[hardy topaz]

I almost have her platinum

But my rando partners are usually bad

[sonic folio]

ive been destroyed by garnets lol

[hardy topaz]

Imagine getting carried by Garnet when you're playing Joker, Harley, Bugs, or Morty

[sonic folio]

but even then i hear people say he is low tier

*she

[hardy topaz]

She needs her specials more than Steven does, yet all go on cooldown. She also has weird hitbox bugs that makes her miss attacks she definitely lands

She might have armor, but many sliding characters can ignore it entirely while also getting an offensive advance

Also three perks disable her armor

[sonic folio]

oh ive noticed that too, even when im supposed to get hit, she just whiffs

tho i am not sure if it is a her issue only or just bad servers lol

[hardy topaz]

Yeah, I get many words.

Whiffs*

I even had projectiles go through people

Very heartbreaking

I don't have this issue as much as with other characters. This was an issue Steven also had in beta, where his hitbox could get displaced from his model during matches

Leading to you never being able to hit while always getting hit

I'm not sure if that's what's going on with Garnet, though

It seems to be the side attacks, air side, and side specials that whiff

[turbid rover]

If they dodge it and it comes back it doesn’t work if that’s what happened

[foggy ether]

Nah it’s hard. Because there’s an actual player behind it. Not a bot.

That and Finn’s combo is the hardest to escape

[sharp fjord]

i used to underestimate garnet until I got my butt handed to me

I think she might be hard to face because they're rare

it's hard to practice and get used to her

[gentle zinc]

these easy tod combos gotta go. I don't mind em but when I gotta deal with Finn players doing nothing but fish for it win or not it gets old and annoying really fast. Homie got me with it once and never stopped trying

[sharp fjord]

same for joker, imo

it's all they try to do, that pogo combo

[gentle zinc]

fish, pogo, smoke, baton, crowbar

[candid socket]

A lot of problematic combos would be fixed by allowing us to tech the ground/walls imma be so real.

at least in terms of like, joker

[gentle zinc]

I wish we had wall/ground techs and grabs

getting wall bounced is just a free death

even at low dam sometimes

[buoyant pine]

wrong channel, buddy

[gentle zinc]

why is the DI to not die at the very edge of the map down??

[foggy ether]

This. When you manage to avoid it all match like 20 times but when they hit you that 1 time and die and then lose -18 after only getting +6 is enraging

[olive hatch]

whoever thought it was a good idea for trading hits to be a thing needs to get fired asap

[gentle zinc]

[sharp fjord]

how would you solve this?

who would have the priority?

trading is better than losing every trade

[olive hatch]

i would solve this by actually learning the game and spacing, but instead they wanted to close the skill gap

[sharp fjord]

ok, but if 2 players hit on the same frame, how would it not trade?

what would you have happen then?

[olive hatch]

if the game actually gets servers and not the handmedowns from amazon they could have the lag be better and incorporate better hit reg

[sharp fjord]

the problem isn't just the servers... moves are inconsistent af in this game

some moves are active for much longer than others

the lack of standards in this game is worrisome, really

[olive hatch]

yeah im not saying this is the only problem compared to the whole game id want them to fix hit trades last lmao

[lost oracle]

Man I have a message in where I am legit tagging a dev and providing feedback about a ton of things since this channel gets ignored, and I'm prepared to eat a ban because of it, and I'm over the limit by 950 characters, this dumb, ignored discord is in slowmode and I'm not paying for Nitro to post it. FML and this dumb broken ass game.

Wait we ain't in slowmode here

[olive hatch]

im just mainly salty they took away my gems

[sharp fjord]

as a Rick player, priorities in this game make me sick

Rick has 1 move with high priority

[olive hatch]

whichever dev brings back gems for finn hit my line after and drinks are on me

[urban pasture]

When. Fix. Matchmaking. I. Cant. Play. Any. Longer. As. Dia. With. Bronce V 18 total wins. let me wait 1 minute. or let me choose strict matchmaking. but get me out of crapmaking

[olive hatch]

yeah lol when it comes to the black adam smack i can hit him first and he still trades me like 4 frames later

games such bs for it to have a 2 year off period

[dire tinsel]

Dude. The fact that Jack has not gotten an emergency nerf to his jab hitbox and the stupid side special is insane. What the hell is going on with these devs? I know he's not the biggest problem but f'n christ he's everywhere in ranked and it's so frustrating.

[lost oracle]

You know what, Imma take the ban because I've given money to this game and either the wrong things, or nothing at all are being addressed, @umbral summit I am honestly sorry for tagging you specifically, you are first in the list in the developers who are online right now, and I can't tag the role itself This is not personal against you, but people working on the in-game action as a whole, as well as in the discord that you, the team and WB Games are part of.

I'll break this down into 3 parts, being a disgruntled Jason player and his numerous bugs that need to be addressed, a disgruntled player in general, and the lack of communication in the discord and questioning it's existence.

I personally really enjoy Jason, I think there's something fun about him, kudos to the team for making him into a playab... kudos to the team for making him a character, however he has been BROKEN for a long time, and nothing is being done about it.

• He was "updated" to have a more proper hitbox with his combo, this is untrue as there are videos of him still swinging and whiffing while it's seen his attack is on the other side of an opponent.
• He can be hit out of his teleport despite being invisible, meaning it's active.
• The startup on the teleport is too long and the recovery is punishable after hitting an opponent with it, it's supposed to be an offensive move, why am I punished for using it.
• Because you can't combo into it, his down special is useless and the recovery time after you whiff it is beyond a joke. This effectively takes away one move in his kit.
• He has an extended hurtbox on his front because of his frame. Put Jason next to a WW who is facing away and do WW's Side Special. It his Jason despite he's behind her.
• Has nothing to punish a parry in the air. Everything just whiffs except Nair, which has 0 kill potential.

General Gameplay

• Hitboxes are beyond broken at present, Especially S.Jack & Taz
• The game feels unfun because of how unbalanced characters are, like Taz.
• If things are found to be BUSTED after a patch comes out, why is there no hotfix? Stuff like the Joker combo, or S.Jacks Side B. You let Iron Giant run rampant for so long.
• Infinites are rampant in the game, and have been for a long, long time, or combos are too easy to do and carry people right off stage
• VELMA IS A NON-CHARACTER, and has a kit that was nerfed to the ground and hasn't been changed in a meaningful way, and she no longer fits in the games playstyle.

The biggest one really though is a lack of communication.

• Personally, I chill in here a lot and never see any PFG staff post in the feedback channels.
• Why do we not hear about changes a week in advance so you can get feedback from players? You announce things the day before a patch which is awful to be honest and has been called out by top people in the community.

Honestly I don't expect to hear anything and eat a ban for tagging a dev (Which I couldn't find a rule against or missed it), but at least some of this stuff is legitimate. People are giving the game money, which is a fun game, but if things don't change and issues aren't addressed for a long time, players WILL leave the game again.

And thats me, I'm prolly banned for that, and if so, best of luck to everyone

[sharp fjord]

well, I don't think you'll be banned

I actually called him out before and I wasn't nearly as polite as you

because I think a community manager should, you know, manage the community

but we have zero communication

making a video once every month and a half is not enough

[gentle zinc]

them talking would be pointless because everybody thinks their feedback is good/important

[sharp fjord]

like I said when I marked ajax, they should at least once a week say something like "hey, we know ya'll been whining a lot about Jack, but he's working as we intended, so don't expect nerfs anytime soon"

or "hey, we know velma's kit is really bad right now, but we're still figuring out what to do"

or "hey, we know servers have been awful, but we're working on it"

[sturdy dagger]

They probably ignore this channel anyway. 😞

[sharp fjord]

or "hey, we know ya'll been complaining about ranked points, but it's working as intended"

communication

[versed latch]

Remove the characters that nobody wanted like reindog,black Adam,Lebron

[lost oracle]

See that's the type of feedback that makes people not want to come here

[full mango]

i hate this game so much, i lost a game against a finn bc the first two stocks I lagged and they did a 0-death combo both times, then tbagged when i lost. then i went against a lebron that kept running like a rat and spammed balls. ive lost so much RP from either lag, annoying broken characters, and ppl not rematching for a second game

(everyone i went against had at least 20x the amount as wins on me bc i only had 20 wins with the character i was playing)

(also sorry for the rant)

[wintry shuttle]

T&J Nerfs:
Paddle:

Paddle its more easy to escape and the di on certain
character has been adjusted to make them escape easily so now it's an real 50/50, not an 80/20.

Paddle:
If Paddle whiff's the Tom and jerry no longer has the ability to cancel the paddle and escape.

Paddle:
If the T&J whiff's the paddle it wont pull you back, so the hitbox of the paddle will be at the top of the paddle.

Buff:

Jab 2 and 3, startup window increased.

Rocket on jerry cooldown reduced.

Dynamites split cooldown reduced.

Dash attack startup window increased.

Mouse trap cooldown reduced.

Jerry now have 15HP instead of 12HP.

[autumn estuary]

admitting to mistakes scares shareholders

[sharp fjord]

LOL AT THIS GUY

Jerry with 15hp

fk that

Jerry needs a cooldown, period

enough with jerry spamming

[solar ocean]

More recent events have felt very grindy. The new shops with stuff like medals also feel awkward, since half the stuff in those still cost gleamium. Also fighter currency should be easier to gain, possibly getting the same amount as battle pass EXP.

[sturdy dagger]

The Iron Giant matrix skin don't have the "S" in character select and win screen, but it appears in a match. Fix that please.

[fading pasture]

yo multiversus plss i beg of you if you can reply to this message and please listen to us morty mains on how bad morty is now he is way to bad (in my honest opinion i truly believe that you should nerf his up air if you really have to which i dont see why you would but just in case however buff his grenade hitbox and mud wall hitbox as well as possibly buffing his side airs knock back just a little i know people were complaining but if you can get this buff right it can make everyone happy including the people who believe he was too strong.

please at least try taking this in consideration because i truly believe it would make at least some morty people happy

[sharp fjord]

morty's problem isn't that he's too strong, it's that it's frustrating fighting him

his playstyle is repetitive and boring to everyone fighting him

dirt should have a cooldown

even if they buff everything else

[fading pasture]

i mean thats how marvin is and they have done nothing with that

[sharp fjord]

but dirt spam is so irritating

[sharp fjord]

I agree, marvin is also super annoying to fight, but at least he doesn't have that much kill power

fighting morty is an endless chasing game

[fading pasture]

also i just got t bagged and bullied by a marvin spammer at the end he went into my ps chats and spammed some mean stuff thats what made me feel like morty git nerfed too hard

also when i was just playing a marvin he just ran and spammed rockets

[sharp fjord]

he can't spam rockets

it has a cooldown

or you could destroy the spaceship with 2 hits

[fading pasture]

than what was that orb that went back and forth

[sharp fjord]

the orb also has cooldown

[fading pasture]

not gonna lie it felt like he had no cooldown but makes sense

[sharp fjord]

and one of his move is changing projectile directions, that's why it came back and forth

he can use the ball projectile while in cooldown, but the range is super short

[fading pasture]

i might just be a little salty that the marvin was toxic lol

[sharp fjord]

like velma's jab short

[fading pasture]

oh alr

[sharp fjord]

the spaceship also offers him 2 options with perks: 1 big rocket or several tiny rockets

that's a perk thing

but either way, that spaceship can be destroyed by any 2 hits

[fading pasture]

no wonder he was spamming he was using that perk

[sharp fjord]

and avoid the flag area, because it will make projectiles chase you

[fading pasture]

also i didnt know the space ship can be destroyed so that also probably caused me problems

[fading pasture]

ye ik that

[sharp fjord]

but it takes a while to get used to fighting Marvin... they are few, and have very confusing hitboxes

imo

[fading pasture]

true, thanks alot for the intel

[sharp fjord]

❤️

[normal adder]

Please fix these lags and input issues ranked has been almost unplayable because of it 🙏

[valid ginkgo]

Put a text chat for the lobby screen that way we can send message to pc players

At least game chat audio

[sturdy dagger]

Ranked put me in a unranked game

One of Garnets signature perks requires shock..... Why

[versed latch]

Nerf Lebron again

[sturdy dagger]

Put a bit map on Garnet's glasses so it isn't a static texture. Looks gaudy.

[scarlet cairn]

Being able to toast people between Rematches would be cool

[native wave]

I just noticed this, but I feel like there should be a minimum requirement to actually winning minigames on rift.
I don't think people mind target break as getting all 10 seem really hard. However, I say at least 3 (and maybe a few coins as well) would be good enough for a victory. Then the requirement increases for higher difficulties.
I mostly have this in mind after Upgrade War's grid escape, as you could get all stars without completing the escape.

[sharp fjord]

I really don't know why I still play this fkn game... I simply hate most of the matchups and end up throwing

[fleet garnet]

Do you like forced BO3?

[sharp fjord]

no, I hate it

but I don't really care... if I'm not having fun, I throw

simple as that

[fleet garnet]

Same. Was the reason I stopped playing

[sharp fjord]

but I noticed I've been throwing more than actually playing, so I wonder why I'm still here

I fkn hate fighting Marvins, I fkn hate fighting Mortys, I fkn hate fighting Jokers, I fkn hate fighting Gizmos, I fkn hate fighting Jacks...

I should quit this fkn game

[foggy ether]

Honestly, no one is forcing you to play.
I haven't seen anything but negativity from you on this platform.
Its a valid consideration

[mossy hill]

@sharp fjord funny thing his up air hitbox SOMEHOW STILL HIT even u on his hips

[stuck sable]

PLEASE make blocked teammates not show up as teammates. I don't want to play with teammates that throw games by self destructing

[strong cove]

Pls make every skin in the cybucks shop be bought with cybucks and gleamium, it kinda sucks how we can only get rick and morty but every other skin is gleamium

[mossy hill]

they could just add this : do not teamed up up to 10 people

per week

[upper wing]

netcode is broken rn, latest patch caused lag spikes that throw you off the stage

[gentle zinc]

you have skill issues for a top player is all i've read

but like goldenknight said if you're not having fun at all and you're legit just throwing your games because you're not liking it then just quit or play casually

[mossy hill]

Tbh joker have combo that almost undodgeable

gizmo just ehh small

[gentle zinc]

I mean yeah but he said he was a high tier player or something but just complaining in here all day 💀 not trying to be rude but you're not as good as you think if you're whining all day or even if you are that good. This isn't your game if you're this upset all day about it

[mossy hill]

i mean i get upset all the time with this game

like how BS netcode was 90% of time

and that 10% i complained about some hitboxes are BS

[gentle zinc]

I mean we all do but complaining ALLL DAY

[mossy hill]

this cuz i keep DC no reason

[gentle zinc]

and he's not even trying just because he can't beat the characters so he's throwing his own ranked games

his words not mine

well the throwing bit

[stuck sable]

WHY does tis stupid game keep making my teammate a player I've BLOCKED

[gentle zinc]

that's wild actually 😂

[mossy hill]

@gentle zinc this is why i have fun with velma

when grinding rank

but i have to face all of THESE BS

since velma hitbox sucks against majority roster

[stuck sable]

STOP MAKING THIS GUY MY TEAMMATE, WHY DOES THE BLOCK FUNCTION EVEN EXIST. STOP IT. THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PLAYERS, DON'T PICK THE GUY I'VE BLOCKED AS MY TEAMMATE

[gentle zinc]

your complaints are most valid because of velma being terrible rn

[mossy hill]

even her van is almost 50/50 lol

instead instant grab and kill

1st her van animation too slow somehow

2nd her van AI so dumb AF it wont jump unles it near edges

3rd her van can bugged out unable grabbed someone if they manage dodge it (like projectiles)

[sharp fjord]

I said I was #27 Rick at some point, and it was to say that I knew about his moves, not to imply that I'm a masters player, you're taking it out of context

[mossy hill]

some people thought im master cuz i hit top 10 velma :/

again only top 2 so far is the master

[gentle zinc]

yeah I thought you were still #27 but you worded it to say yeah I know what i'm talking about when I say Jerry needs to get nerfed because of my standing in ranked

[sharp fjord]

you're guessing stuff, my dude... calm tf down

[gentle zinc]

this is why

wasn't a guess you said that

regardless just take a break

[sharp fjord]

It was a guess saying I would throw because I couldn't win

when the fact is that I throw because it's just annoying facing those characters

again, you're distorting stuff

[gentle zinc]

clearly you can't. Nobody throws when winning

[sharp fjord]

I'm not gonna argue with you, bro, think what you will

[gentle zinc]

lol. Like I said and someone else said just take a break

do something else that you actually wanna do cause this game clearly isn't it

[stuck sable]

Sometimes, getting angry just means you care about something. I get angry because I care about winning, and I care about fairness.

[gentle zinc]

yeah but we can't all be right about balance. Devs will do their best based on what we say and the data that supports it or what they think. If you're that mad like he was earlier just do something else and come back later

[sharp fjord]

I can't believe this is their best... this is what's making people angry

[gentle zinc]

more salt

[sharp fjord]

yeah, you can keep sugarcoating as much as you want

it doesn't change facts and general opinion

[gentle zinc]

about?

[sharp fjord]

the game

[gentle zinc]

most of the people just have skill issues half of these chars are fine

[sharp fjord]

well, if most of the people have skill issues, it's a game problem

the game isn't meant for the top 100 players you know

[gentle zinc]

so its the game's fault people are bad at it okay 😂

I'm not top 100 i'm just saying people gotta accept that their character won't beat all the chars and sometimes its just a you (the person) problem

and its better if you don't focus on that number anyway

[mossy hill]

@gentle zinc what do you think about black adam

i felt his mobility and his armor breaker move is kinda too much

like armor breaker move has huge ass hitbox

[gentle zinc]

I hate it but they use it a lot so I tend to try and jump above and slam on their head or just run if I have the space to run from it. I only play Jason, t&j and Bugs Bunny.

[mossy hill]

the problem is 1 🤣 that hitbox is huge AF and i cant even hit their head without getting hit

[gentle zinc]

If I'm t&j I might drop dynamite between me and them to force the hit or them to back off if not that shoot Jerry at em to try and stop it. If. Not the first two options

[gentle zinc]

Yeah I'd just try running and jumping away

Just not too high they might catch you with the crazy air jab

[mossy hill]

mann

i frickin hate joker can easily 0 to kill me

this guy just dodge dodge and wait until i whiff

-_-

[gentle zinc]

I can't give any tips I was never good with Velma

[mossy hill]

GREAT

I LOST 30

CUZ -20 from that lost match

-10 from DC

5 minute penalty WTF man...

[gentle zinc]

With how many people I've had DC I didn't think there was a penalty

[mossy hill]

Yknow this penalty already cost me like 6 hours or 5 hours total

now

-_- its getting annoying

[gentle zinc]

I can suggest looking for a guide on the characters you have a hard time beating and learning their weaknesses in the video. That's what I do when they beat me consistently

[mossy hill]

like i dont have all day just to wait this

[mossy hill]

i mean taz is depend on the player cuz some of them decide space neutral air which problematic

most of the roster is kinda ehhh depend on the map

excpet WW, superman

those can fk off from my game

spam armor nonstop

how tf i can hit

[gentle zinc]

It's the tornado spam for me. Does no damage but knockback is still real on it

[sharp fjord]

and to add to that, not every character has an armor breaker, which is such a stupid decision imo

[mossy hill]

the tornado still can be hit even dogpile with velma flashlight but... the window just small...

[mossy hill]

and some armor breaker moves lock behind some BS moves that u had to do

[gentle zinc]

Jason can't

[mossy hill]

they need buff the window upstart for velma man...

[mossy hill]

he can with the axe i think but again HOW u will use the axe if they chasing

[gentle zinc]

That's why I started jason

[mossy hill]

but they need adjust some jason moves...

i hate the fact he killed me at frickin 50

[gentle zinc]

Hated Wonder woman most.

[mossy hill]

TnJ is annoying cuz they have sh tons of projectiles

[gentle zinc]

Sometimes it works but I don't risk it

[mossy hill]

joker feels like bruiser instead mage what is this logic lol

[sharp fjord]

personally I'd go for an almost full rework on velma... I think her kit is extremely counterintuitive

[mossy hill]

honestly the only thing i would rework is her side special (ground)

its almost pointless...

yes u can edge guard but whats the point if the enemy has really good recovery lol

or big ass hitbox on up attack

[sharp fjord]

wanna hit downwards? gotta press up... you're in the air and wanna use side special? gotta use the opposite side... need that camera to break armor? too bad, here's some ice that will NEVER freeze anyone

[gentle zinc]

I might start playing Velma and force myself through the pain

[mossy hill]

the beaker need rework tho what they can do

OR

they could just add some spices on her signature perk

all her attack or projectile can apply ice stack maybe

maybe projectile cuz attack prob too much

[sharp fjord]

her kit is just unecessarily counterintuitive, imho

[mossy hill]

and idfk what counter intuitive means

[sharp fjord]

means it's the opposite of intuitive

it feels kinda unnatural

[gentle zinc]

Specials need to swap or something

[mossy hill]

and i kinda hate agent smith gun

when he dash attack his hitbox still hit even on his head lol

[mossy hill]

even u say like that i wont understand the intuitive means 🤣 cuz i dont even know the word

had to search google

what i found does not happen in the way you would expect it to

[sharp fjord]

it's something that you can figure out by intuition

like "hey, I wanna attack upwards, so I should press attack and upwards"

instead of "hey, I wanna hit right, but I gotta press left"

[mossy hill]

basicly all her moveset is kinda going opposite lol

[sharp fjord]

exactly my point!

and it's completely unnecessary

her air side special is dreadful, honestly

and such a tiny hitbox

[mossy hill]

tiny hitbox only kill at 150+ too

which need buff

[sharp fjord]

I don't understand these decisions, honestly

why overcomplicating her

I mean, it's not absurd asking to hit the direction I'm pressing

instead of the opposide direction

[sturdy dagger]

Quirky for the sake of being quirky, is a thing with Velma and Marvin.

[sharp fjord]

that's why I'd go for an almost full rework of velma's kit

first thing would be removing that damn ice

that thing shouldn't even be an upspecial in the first place

[mossy hill]

yeah her ice are USELESS esp no more have an ice day perk

[sturdy dagger]

I understand ice, she wants to keep distance and it slows you down.... In theory

[sharp fjord]

and being an Up Special using the same move as your armor breaker

wtf

[sharp fjord]

not enough to block her armor breaker/up special

I mean it doesn't slow enough to earn that spot

[sturdy dagger]

It should just cause slow, like Arya's pie

[sharp fjord]

and it could be some other move too, not blocking her armor breaker/up special

also, what was fun about Velma in the beta was that she was kind of a sniper

but now her megaphone has half the range

[mossy hill]

velma beaker barely has value

cuz mobility in this game are already crazy on certain char

[sturdy dagger]

Camera should just be down attack, the little thing with the glasses is cute.... But that's all it is.

[sharp fjord]

glasses have tiny hitbox too

it's basically just her hand

very little margin of error, and extremelly punishable

[mossy hill]

oh her air down is small AF lol

and it has weird ANGLE TOO

[sharp fjord]

yes!

[mossy hill]

IT ISNT ACTUALLY DOWN

or straight

it was sideways down

[sharp fjord]

it's diagonal

meanwhile, smith's whole body is a fkn hitbox

[sturdy dagger]

The gel stuff could probably do like a burn version, fire pillar during recharge

[mossy hill]

its aiming for south east pr south west

[mossy hill]

not mentioning some other char too

[sharp fjord]

you see??? she needs a rework

I know you love her

but you also know how bad she is

[sturdy dagger]

Garnet's can be held for a splash attack at least

[sharp fjord]

unnecessarily

characters can be complicated, but they need to have value

velma has 1 good move: lamp

that's it

and I like the range of her jab, but it lasts 1 frame or 2

I saw void testing it

her jab is active for like 1 or 2 frames

[sturdy dagger]

Attacks are ok, specials are meh. Other then neutral, and camera

[mossy hill]

her best move mostly up attack lol

and camera

[sharp fjord]

camera is OK

it's bad because of Ice

it would be ok if it wasn't behind ice

[sturdy dagger]

I like light wish it went farther

[sharp fjord]

you can kinda slide with that lamp tho

her up attack

you can slide a short distance

[mossy hill]

also

her flashlight distance is so short AF

like

[sharp fjord]

it is

[mossy hill]

seriously

almost point blank lol

[sharp fjord]

super risky

but it's like ricks side air

[mossy hill]

they could buff the range

i think in the beta her flashlight range is huge AF

her book hitbox also big in beta

yeah her flashlight about 1 block big lol

[sturdy dagger]

Meseeks remind me of Marvin's bird henchmen, and how they somehow didn't make it to his moveset.

[mossy hill]

bruhhh WHY TF SMITH JUST DO UP ATTACK then instantly can down attack

[sharp fjord]

never try to punish his jab

[mossy hill]

not that

i just trying recovered into the platform

and he can instantly hit down

attack

BRUH

not only that his 1st gun shot hitstun cant be dodge if hit

[sharp fjord]

you can dodge, but it's a mind game

[mossy hill]

like he shot then dash attack thats undodgeable

[mossy hill]

oh wanna know 1 more useless thing about vlma? @sharp fjord

if u hit her megaphone onto teamate

your teamate has small AOE explosion

that also explode after like 2 or 3 sec window

[sharp fjord]

no heal?

[mossy hill]

nope

they remove her weakness applier , healing ability

[sturdy dagger]

Taz has heal..... I think. I can't tell 🙃

[mossy hill]

if u chickenfied the enemy yes

he heals

they gutted entire velma kit anyway

[sturdy dagger]

I meant the lick thing. You don't see Chicken too often.

Well I don't, aerials are just better than his jabs.

[mossy hill]

i think the lick do heal

steven watermelon area also heals

[sturdy dagger]

Taz should eat the sandwich after up attack. Think it would look better.

(Quick non sequitur)