game-feedback

[bitter condor]

I’m pub stomping right now, for some reason my opponents are booty

@young carbon sorry man

Shaggys charged attack should have decreased range in my opinion

[autumn estuary]

for some reason

[bitter condor]

Sandwich should have a cooldown

[turbid rover]

Bring back old events

[graceful holly]

does harleys projectile have a coodown?

[turbid rover]

Her dair? No

[graceful holly]

if she doesn't get one shaggy doesn't get one uwu

[turbid rover]

Okay?

[turbid rover]

Nah it’s his only projectile

[bitter condor]

2 seconds or so

[turbid rover]

No

Shaggy is fine maybe damage nerf on his charged specials

That’s it

[gentle zinc]

war cry of a loser

[bitter bramble]

hey this happened to me again, people leave after the first match in order to cheese a win, making me lose ranked points

that is cheating by all means, if and when that happens the player that didn't disconnect should be compensated or at least punished less than the player that disconnected

[turbid rover]

Didn’t know courage was chill like that

[scarlet shore]

Because i was upset u woke me up at 3am to tell me your opinion on something i said hours prior its not a war cry im not starting a war with someone on discord i dont know and also im a loser for wanting to sleep and not make every waking moment of my life about a game touch some grass big man

[turbid rover]

B tier is insane

Low A at most

Tom has one of the easiest best loops in the game

Free setups

Very good pressure

From all sides of the stage

Stops edge guarding with dynamite

Can make recoverying very hard

Has one of the best projectiles in the game

Has a rocket tracking Jerry so shooting Jerry at the opponent and rocket is free damage

Jerry can be hard to kill for some people if the Jerry is good

[scarlet shore]

That's what i was saying and this guy dug that up 15 hours after i said it to complain about me complaining about a character like for what purpose does ur life actually serve

Thats some ive never felt grass or smelled the autumn dew or saw the sun or tasted anything that doesnt come from a 2 liter bottle

[turbid rover]

Tom and Jerry isnt busted or anything

But they deserve mid A tier

Void tierlist is terrible

I wouldn’t even bother

😭

[gentle zinc]

you're a loser because the first thing you jump to is trying to call someone else one you clearly have low self esteem to talk to people like you do

the other guy actually tried to have a convo

[turbid rover]

Can we not argue

[gentle zinc]

i'm still reading but also playing sorry

[turbid rover]

Alright but Tom is very good

Do you think he’s B from void?

[scarlet shore]

I never called u a loser i said dont ping me at 3am when im trying to sleep idc about what u say ur the one out here tryin to start some drama every 15 hours hows about u go outside or shower

U make me not want courage which sux cause i do

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-typing-close-up-serious-gif-16624166

This guy rn

[gentle zinc]

Compared to how they were in the beta it feels like the stages all somewhat destroy the kit they have. The loops are good, jerry rocket is good though it is bugged when close to tom they just won't get him if it goes through him too. Its happened to me like 3 times consistently that way, edge guard stopping with dynamite yes. Jerry dies while mid air a lot more than before it feels. I think he got a health nerf but that's not really a problem for me. Then the sweet spot for lids got nerfed and then removed entirely and they're light. I was already feeling it all and I swapped to Jason because its just more fun even if I get looped by some characters. The void tier list was more a confirmation bias than anything. I think a lot of the characters are just better and they've been nerfed enough to go from S to A to B now imo

[gentle zinc]

lol

[scarlet shore]

I can agree with the stage thing especially dexters lab i feel that stage was drawn in ms pain by a toddler those platforms make my ocd go off

[bitter bramble]

jason's armor should last for his complete move, not just the first hitbox

[scarlet shore]

And the jerry rocket propelling tom thing is yes not that good

[scarlet shore]

Agreed if he hits with his side combo it should stay on until he either hits jab 3 or cancels it or cancels it into another move
As well as yes his multihits like air down special

[scarlet shore]

Even without sweetspot uair for tom is so good same for his dair both are wildly disjointed and strong af

[gentle zinc]

I don't mind this part I feel like it can be a crazy good mixup if you know it well enough. My thing is the hitbox just stops existing

they were right behind me and I turned the rocket that way and it went through me and them

3 times

[scarlet shore]

Yeah that tends to be annoying but unlike jason armor tom doesnt need to rely on it

Jason armor still needs a major buff and idc what u say i think tom is mid a tier to high a tier

Hes not top 10 worst in the game that's ridiculous

[turbid rover]

What stages are destroying their kit and he only dies mid air to characters like Steven and such and one that mu is already losing and that happens if Steven does fair but I’ve never faced an issue where my Jerry dies mid air also lid is still very powerful and kills even easier the sweet spot is not hard to hit and allows him to easily kill at 100 if you wanted to go for it and just because he’s light doesn’t mean anything tbh Tom and Jerry is still a very powerful character

Easily mid A or Low A

Voids tierlist was terrible

[scarlet shore]

And yeah jerry dying midair is because yall need to learn when to actually throw him out in neutral and not have it be your neutral

[turbid rover]

Yeah honestly this has never happened to me

And I don’t even main t&j

Can we bring back old events

[scarlet shore]

I think one of the funniest parts is putting bg as 2nd worst in the game swap bg with jason and u got a better tier list and lebron should not be in low tier hes much better than people say

[turbid rover]

The new ones suck

[turbid rover]

He put Arya in her own tierlist put black Adam in the same tier as reindog and Rick 😭

Yeah no

[turbid rover]

Lebron is def low tier

He’s just not very good

He gets countered a lot

[scarlet shore]

I think lebron is bottom mid tier

[turbid rover]

Mostly if not all his mu’s are losing

[turbid rover]

No

He’s low tier

I think every character has anti projectile

So most of his kit is canceled out

And if lebron doesn’t have a ball

He’s basically useless

Expect for side special

And even then that move isn’t the greatest

He’s not the worst in the game anymore but he’s with Jason and garnet

[scarlet shore]

While thats fair lebron if he doesnt throw his ball 24/7 can run circles around even the best characters yall need to see top lebron players

[gentle zinc]

Jerry dies to shaggy side special, garnet shoulder, Arya spin dash thing, black adam bubble I think,finn jabs, harley hammer I can go on but I don't really care about that. In 1s its not a problem in 2s its a problem but eh. Dexter's lab, Tree fort 1v1, tree fort 2, Sky arena, sky arena platforms 1v1, water tower.

[turbid rover]

This could be said for every character top lebron players won’t be able to compete with other top players on better characters im afraid

[scarlet shore]

He bounces off black adam bubble

[gentle zinc]

couldn't fully remember I think he just dies if he sets it around him

[turbid rover]

Why would you possibly use Jerry in any of these situations?

[gentle zinc]

Fishing pole has less control than it use to

[scarlet shore]

Saw one of the top lebron players dunk on one of the top iron giant players the other day on stream lemme try to find that twitch clip

[turbid rover]

Honestly Jerry isn’t supposed to be thrown out as much as he is

Tbh

It’s better just to keep him next to you and on you for kill moves

[turbid rover]

That matchup is awful for iron giant

Ig can’t really do much against the projectiles

If he can’t kill lebron early

He loses

[scarlet shore]

Wrong iron giant literally has a move that destroys projectiles from the waist up combine that with defensive momentum iron giant is invincible to projectiles

[gentle zinc]

you wouldn't knowingly but it just happens

[scarlet shore]

So what ur saying is u cant read ur opponents in this game

[turbid rover]

Sorry but ig players are NOT using protective momentum ever and two only move ig has besides neutral special to destroy projectiles is up special and then you can easily get punished

The matchup is losing for ig no matter how you look at it

Also protective momentum isn’t good

Since you have to run in one direction

On the ground

And you can’t press a button

Until after

That’s not good

[gentle zinc]

no but i'm just gonna play them in 1's instead of 2's and see how it goes. I play Jason way better than I play Tom but I primarily play Jason in 1's where all my reads are able to shine since he's not good at anything other than that.

[turbid rover]

Okay

[scarlet shore]

Most of what ur saying is false and i was talking about his up special

[turbid rover]

How is most of what I’m saying is false also i literally said his up special

[scarlet shore]

Yeah up special is what im talking about and i played iron giant enough to get him past level 15 any projectile heavy character failed to get close when i used my strat

[turbid rover]

Okay that’s you I guess? The matchup is losing tho since one ig can get punished after up special and two protective momentum isn’t a good perk

On any good stage

Either

[scarlet shore]

And using protective momentum while using his up special on the ground activates both

[turbid rover]

Ur gonna be forced to gimp

[turbid rover]

Why would you do that?

😭

[scarlet shore]

To cover both his upper and lower body

[celest oak]

More tasks to me complete event quests pliz

[gentle zinc]

just because its how I got better with jason so

[turbid rover]

And when they jump in for fair?

Then what

You get punished

😭

[scarlet shore]

They get hit by up special

Up special doesnt even have a lot of endlag like his other moves homie

[turbid rover]

Okay so I don’t think you understand when you use up special he can turn it right if you don’t turn it you get punished if you do turn it you still get punished

😭

For example some fair beat up special

I don’t know every one

But

[scarlet shore]

I dont think youve ever fought a good iron giant

[turbid rover]

Most do

[turbid rover]

Apparently ur the best ig or something 😭

[scarlet shore]

Not trying to toot my own horn no

Not nearly the best

[olive mesa]

I’ve fought 2 iron giants in 2v2 and they attacked in A way that guarded each other

[turbid rover]

Yeah but since I just explained how you can beat up special I haven’t fought a good ig

[scarlet shore]

But ive never lost to a projectile heavy character as ig except for marvin and its not even because of his projectiles it's because his stupid electro gun has a disjoint bigger than it looks

[turbid rover]

Okay that’s you I guess like I said lebron vs ig is a winning mu

Especially since he can’t counter down special spike

[scarlet shore]

That i can agree on i dont think he could counter that and none of the kills in the match i mentioned were down special off stage pretty much all of them were kills off the top

[turbid rover]

Yeah because lebron has a high kill chance on his jab string and side special but down special is always nice to get

[scarlet shore]

True but what ur saying essentially that lebron is either not low tier or iron giant is not top tier

[olive mesa]

Harley need a major nerf

She’s fast, has impressive hit boxes, can carry her own timed explosion without it hurting her

[gentle zinc]

all the DC characters are annoying as hell but I think batman the only one that needs a nerf

[olive mesa]

No, she needs a nerf, her and Black Adam

[turbid rover]

He is low tier and ig isn’t top tier

[scarlet shore]

Based

[turbid rover]

I’d take a Superman joker or Ww nerf over Batman

[turbid rover]

I think she’s fine in B tier

[gentle zinc]

regardless of which one they are all annoying to me so I don't mind whomever gets it

[gentle zinc]

why superman though?

[olive mesa]

She’s at least top A+ tier

[gentle zinc]

oh yeah you can't hit jerry rocket anymore

with racket

[turbid rover]

Because the amount of armor and what not

I could give Superman to a toddler and they could win a game

[gentle zinc]

funny he was the biggest factor in my whole thing about armor here

don't find him too bad now at least as a jason

[gentle zinc]

we need some hardcore anti camping mechanics this finn just sat waiting to get that charge slash attack off and even though I won its so annoying that people camp all day in this game rn

[lost knot]

circuit drone banana guard skin has the default mouth when he talks (it's yellow)

[sturdy dagger]

Circuit drone BG not having white eyes and mouth to contrast the dark blue color was an odd one.

[wary wind]

Why do we get paired against master-platinum level player when I just reached gold? No wonder high level players complain they don’t receive enough RP.

[bitter condor]

Yo

[olive mesa]

I know, it’s super distracting and bad. I only bought the skin based on the variant photo

Cyan blue with black goes hard

[mossy hill]

its funny how joker up attack still spammable lol

[bright thunder]

for the love of god can you just fix the stupid bug where we lose control of our characters

[olive mesa]

Void Walking, it’s caused by the servers having a new anti-d/c system that tries more to keep you in the game. If any connection issues occurs, it’ll continue the input you put in last

[normal adder]

Ong

[quiet gust]

got stuck in the rematch screen twice today

[manic locust]

I AM FACING NUMEROUS CONNECTION PROBLEMS. I HAVE TRIED SEVERAL STEP BY STEP AND NOTHING HAS BEEN SOLVED.

[jade delta]

What's the general consensus on Jack Jab1 range? It feels insanely long to me

[mossy hill]

its long AF

[proper nova]

Revert the nerf to defensive momentum, it didnt need to break after a single hit 😭

[jade delta]

Do you think we're likely to get a hitbox adjust on it? The vast majority of his kit you can find ways around but getting tapped by Jab 1 from Burst range is nutty

[polar plover]

PLEASE FIX!!!!!

1. No more forced rematches in ranks! Give us the option if we want to do the rematch.

2. Fix the RP rewards! I’m in Diamond ranks and I beat a Wonder Woman, Jason, and Shaggy and only got 5 RP for all the work I put into those matches.

And yet if you lose you get like -21 RP. Not cool!

[narrow flame]

Wow. Thats literal RP discrimination. You are actually being held back by the system

[scarlet shore]

What

[bitter condor]

Hi

[scarlet shore]

Is that all

[polar plover]

Seriously! It’s so discouraging to go through all that work especially as a Gizmo main to get Pennie’s as a reward

I have photos to prove that I’m only getting 5 RP but it won’t let me send it here

[scarlet shore]

Fr fr pay us first games be wildin with rp diamond onwards

[narrow flame]

Oh you're a Gizmo main, nevermind

Jk lol

[scarlet shore]

Trust me we believe u

[polar plover]

Haha stop it! 🤣

[errant lava]

Fix game servers. I WALK OFF THE MAP IN RANKED AND LOSE 20 FOR NO REASON

ITS NIT MY FAULT I CANT MOVE WHEN ITS LEGIT LAGGING

[mossy hill]

as velma facing finn arya jack ETC its pain lol

[tough wren]

is Damage Dealt Accurate?

im so sure im doing more damage then the game is telling me

[mossy hill]

can i say this

they should make the harder character to face just gave us more RP

like seriously example arya and finn

or iron giant

those crap are hard as heck to face

im not gonna mention morty cuz morty player being morty OFC

[dire tinsel]

So are Finn's just addicted to the cheesey 0-death or do they do it because that's the only kill confirm the;y have?

Just about every Finn I come across does nothing but go for that and I am wondering if it's because they are dorks or if it's because Finny genuinely cannot do anything else and win.

[mossy hill]

WTF

-30 AGAINST BLACK ADAM

AS VELMA

BRO WTF

this game didnt look how unfair the match up already

[tough wren]

JUSTYTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT DELETE IRONNNNNNNNNNNNNN NGIANNNNNNNNNNNT

THE WORSE DESIGN NIVE EVER SIEEN IN A FIGHTING GAME

HE CANT BE BALANCE|D

JUST GIVE YUP
|

YOU FAILED AT THIS NEW CONCEPT NOW RETIRE IT

the most unfun fighter to play against in any fighting game ive ever platyed

[dire tinsel]

I've played a lot of different Giants and don't seem to have much trouble with him. What is it that you're running into when you fight them that makes them feel impossible?

[tough wren]

so braindead

[sharp fjord]

to fight IG, keep him in the air as much as you can

[tough wren]

BRO HIS NORMALS TAKE UP THE WHOLE STAGE

[mossy hill]

i just notice velma book not only reduce cooldown but also increase her body size so u can have bigger hitbox for no reason

[tough wren]

AND HE LIVES TILL 160 AVG

[mossy hill]

so here is what they can do on nerf iron giant INSTEAD KEEP NERFING HIS WHIFF

1. reduce his knock back
2. reduce his damage

cuz theres no point nerfing whiff it just toxic

like seriously

[tough wren]

AND THE COMBO GAME IS SO TRASH IN THIS GAME JTHAT THE PUNISH YOU GET IS NOTHING OR HE JUST BURST BECAUSE HE IS SOMEHOW PLAY GUILTY GEAR

[mossy hill]

giving him so much end lag kinda useless

cuz people still gonna hit their attack and do more stuff

[tough wren]

JUST DELETE HIM

[mossy hill]

he can cheese kill within 60 dmaage

[tough wren]

WHY DOES HE GET TO THROW THE BIGGEST HITBOXES AND HAVE NO ENDLAGG

[mossy hill]

@tough wrenu just need to understand my sanity playing velma before u just insane on iron giant

[tough wren]

WHY DOES HE HAVE AN INSTALL IN A PLATFORM FIGGHTER

BRO I JUST WISH II CAN HEAR WHAT THE BALANCE TEAM DISCUSSES URING MEETINGS

[dire tinsel]

Still? I thought they removed that?

[tough wren]

NOBODY SHOULD HAVE HITBOXES THAT TAKE UP THE WHOLE STAGE

[twilit rivet]

IG will always be able to cheese stocks, no matter what they change he's always been able to do that.

[tough wren]

WHY IS HIS LARIAT FULL SCREEN

[feral shadow]

chill

[mossy hill]

if the top blast short yes

which 90% of the map lol

[tough wren]

BRO IF HE MAKES THE RIGHT READ HE CAN CHEESE YOU AT ANY PERCENT

[mossy hill]

its funny how the bottom blast is incosistent like some map has it really low and some map have it really big bottom blast zone

[tough wren]

does anybody have frame data yet on this game

[foggy ether]

You gotta chill. IG has only gotten nerfs.
You need to constantly barrage him with attacks, combo him, don't let him move.
To me it feels like he dies sooner than later now

[tough wren]

@foggy ether Not every character has the luxury to combo him all game and don't the kill moves to kill him at reasonable percents

even when i beat a IG i'm never having fun

[foggy ether]

What character you play?

[tough wren]

its a cheese festival

i been playing taz today

[dire tinsel]

But there are plenty of characters who can kill of the top at low percent. I was just talking about how that's all Finn players try to do.

[tough wren]

also moves stale early in this game as well

[foggy ether]

Ok. You usually play against IG with Taz?

[tough wren]

which helps IG live to ungodly percents

No

[foggy ether]

Who then?

[tough wren]

I Main BA

[dire tinsel]

This. This is what I do and I find that Iron Giant does not give me much trouble.

[foggy ether]

Black Adam?

[foggy ether]

Yup

[dire tinsel]

Though it may be a matchup thing.

[tough wren]

BA does good against IG but most characters are not as good as BA

[dire tinsel]

I play Agent Smith and I try to fake them into commiting to a move then I dodge and punish.

[tough wren]

yes black adam

[mossy hill]

yeah

[foggy ether]

@tough wren you main Black Adam and you are having hard time bruh?

[mossy hill]

i was like

why all of these character knockback or hitstun OR MAYBE DAMAGE get nerfed yet

[tough wren]

not with BA

[foggy ether]

Ok so who? Taz?

[twilit rivet]

People can have trouble with certain MUs, they character they play doesn't matter.

[tough wren]

but other Mid to Lower Tier Characters struggle a lot against IG

[foggy ether]

Character does matter because you need proper character knowledge and matchup

[foggy ether]

So Taz?

[tough wren]

Taz loses the IG MU

Most Characters LOSE to IG

[foggy ether]

Taz tornado hitbox so big IG can't escape that.
You know Taz can stun lock IG r?

Taz soup alone is good on IG

[tough wren]

@foggy ether BUSRT and TORNADO does not kill him till very late sometimes

[foggy ether]

Well that's basically a prob for everyone. That's like his “thing”. IG survives and takes hits.

[tough wren]

IG is very unhealthy for this game esp long term if he stays the way he is

[dire tinsel]

I'm really not seeing it. If it's a tough matchup for you personally that's one thing but based on my experiences and watching streamers, I don't think IG is broken. I could be wrong but his flaws are easy to exploit and he's combo food.

[foggy ether]

You know what I think is unhealthy for this game?
Typing whole caps and saying things without any constructive thought.
Its just yelling.

Iron Giant is something that's never been done before and he definitely needs some attention. But please say your criticisms in a proper way.

[dire tinsel]

Maybe his combo breaker move could be toned down, maybe it doesn't do damage it just breaks a combo.

[dire tinsel]

To be fair, I think the all caps was for emphasis.

[foggy ether]

I know how to use caps. Creating EMPHASIS like THIS.
But the THING is, is the TONE.

When you write a whole text in caps that's even more intense

And unnecessary

[dire tinsel]

Dude, chill.

[foggy ether]

We need to be resonable and respectful

When we aren't, it just isn't healthy for the game

[mossy hill]

i felt marvin kit need rework

like seriously

he could spam projectiles

I CANT LAND AT ALL

[foggy ether]

So yeah, can Iron Giant do some dumb stuff? Yeah.
But spelling in all caps message after message saying
“Delete him”
Does no help whatsoever.

[foggy ether]

That's emphasis

[mossy hill]

i mean

i tried to land guess what happend

back on the air again

-_-

it just nonstop chain of projectiles

and i cant attack them cuz they have protection

[foggy ether]

Marvin kit is “Up. Up. Up.” lol

[dire tinsel]

I don't understand people who play Finn and spam the 0-death combo, Joker who spam the jab into dair/upair combo, or Samurai Jack's who carry across the stage with jabs can feel good about themselves.

Like, if that's what I did to win I would feel like a fraud.

The fact that they can pull off those combos at any percent is where the game imbalance shows. To me.

[foggy ether]

I think its funny how Finn always has a chance to kill you at any percent.
And if they land the combo its somehow the best skill in the world.

Especially when the combo was attempted throughout the whole match like 10 times

Just takes one of those to kill you

Then when you lose -19 it feels horrible lol

[dire tinsel]

They should automatically lose if they try the same combo more than 10 times for those characters.

[mossy hill]

watch those combo getting nerf

and players struggle to play those char lol

[safe wadi]

banning players from queueing for 15 mins after the server fails is wild

[sharp fjord]

idk... at this point I don't think they'll touch finn anymore

their inaction makes it seem like this how he's intended to be

[mossy hill]

i mean

its soon mid season

hopefully they cooked something spicy

[foggy ether]

I noticed that Finn air kick, I think Nair, has so much knockback (but little damage) the trajectory sends you way too high up. Perfectly setting up a Vacuum Blackhole backpack lol

Not to mention that insane ground up attack/up smash

This combo and Tom n Jerry Paddle loop combo have been the most difficult for me to escape.

The funny thing is, the player, using Finn, can read your DI, so even IF you escape they can forward air you or switch it up and still kill

It puts you in a disadvantageous state that feels a little too unfair in my opinion

Especially given that it can be successfully pulled off at basically any percent.

[lapis glade]

marvin needs some buffs quick 💀

[mossy hill]

oh hey we face earlier lol

[lapis glade]

oh yeah i remember you

ggs on that match

[lapis glade]

im sure its agreed upon that its kind of hard for him to kill, plus hes pretty light(or atleast he feels like it)

[mossy hill]

i really hate tnj got tons of recovery

[sturdy dagger]

Assassin class is supposed to kill easily, but can be easily killed. (the latter is a lie though 😭) So I wouldn't be surprised if that was 100% intentional.

Problem being fast characters are the meta in platform fighters, because they're harder to hit and accumulate damage fast. BUT in Multiversus they also get better kill options. (Unless you're Marvin)

[mossy hill]

he need rework tbh...

like DONT MAKE HIM THE PROJECTILE SPAMMER...

[lapis glade]

yeah EXACTLY, i faced a toxic garnet recently and i got killed at the top at like 40 ,,, he sucks against heavy characters

[foggy ether]

Marvin is fast AND small so he's a special assassin

[lapis glade]

marvin however is decently easy to catch

arya just gets in your face immediately and youre in disadvantage

[mossy hill]

maybe except iron giant

cuz iron giant... get hard punished by his hitbox

[lapis glade]

oh yeah youre right

you can say the same for most projectile characters tho

[mossy hill]

except velma :/

velma is mage but her cooldown is long ass and barely has projectile she can spam

marvin need entire kit rework

we dont want see marvin spam up up up up up up up

like THE HELL IS THIS

DODGE GAMING?

Literally dodge mania

if u trying get close from left or right he could just use the stupid laser beam

that somehow hit around his body too

[lapis glade]

marvin is annoying but hes definitely bad

[mossy hill]

just need rework him

[graceful holly]

Makes you thus while most fight games make blocking standard and not dodging

Ye probably any projectile character.is going to be a pain to fight an feel toxic

[mossy hill]

like

buffing him make him toxic

nerf him make him useless

so its better just rework his kit

does velma even has sweet spot lol

[turbid rover]

Or maybe leave him where he’s at

He’s like B tier

Like every character doesn’t need to be touched

[lapis glade]

they need to tone down his projectiles if they want him to actually be useful up close

arya and finn should be the standards for the assassin class

[sturdy dagger]

It visually shocks him, it covering his body isn't to me confusing to me. It not having more recovery on whiff however.....

[mossy hill]

#off-topic WTF MAN 20 minutes

[turbid rover]

Mainly a pc issue but ur gonna have to just leave

[turbid rover]

No he doesn’t

[sturdy dagger]

He should just have a gun that accumulates damage like Rick and Morty has. Then kill with disintegrator or Rocket

[turbid rover]

He doesn’t need a rework 😭

Oh my god

[mossy hill]

if u wantmake him something

[turbid rover]

He’s literally fine where he’s at

Ur complaints are a skill issue

I’m sorry to inform

[sturdy dagger]

He's weird for no reason other than PFG not wanting to have two Looney Tunes mages.

[turbid rover]

You play a character meant for 2s in 1s she’s meant to support a teammate so ofc her kit isn’t gonna be great

[turbid rover]

He’s unique he is projectile focused but has pretty good moves close range

Laser is pretty good

Idk why they didn’t give him mage

Maybe because of laser

[sturdy dagger]

I said weird.

[turbid rover]

And how fast he is

[mossy hill]

while reindog 2s character but work in 1v1

ALOT

[turbid rover]

He gets countered by a lot of characters and is low tier?

But Velma has a good kit her projectiles are okay but I mean she has a very relatable up air

Lmao

[tough wren]

shaggy players eat crayon

[turbid rover]

And fair

[sturdy dagger]

Shouldn't everyone be a 2s character.

[turbid rover]

No

[tough wren]

such one trick fighter

[sturdy dagger]

Why?

[tough wren]

and the game rewards him for just spamming side kick

[turbid rover]

Because some characters were to built to mainly be played in twos Velma Steven reindog so and so but they took away the support tag

[turbid rover]

Who do you play

[mossy hill]

void say otherwise somehow

he put reindog on A tier

[turbid rover]

Voids tierlist SUCKS

oh my god

For the love of god

Don’t believe that tierlist

I can tell you everything wrong with it

[fathom kelp]

yooo they really let jack be this broken

[sturdy dagger]

I think Marvin should be reworked on the grounds that he's just plain unintuitive. Like just let the shooter shoot.

[fathom kelp]

jack takes 0 skill its pathetic asf, and this dev team is garbage af

[turbid rover]

No he shouldn’t be reworked he plays perfectly fine

😭

His kit is simple

And easy

No reason to rework him

[mossy hill]

its just oppresively annoying

[turbid rover]

He does what he’s supposed to do

Marvin doesn’t need to be touched

[sturdy dagger]

Marvin suggestion:

Make reverse Button neutral normal, make it a charge attack with more range as well.

Have the bubble be a long range projectile with little to no hit stun normally, hold down for big capture bubble. Have it be neutral special.

[sturdy dagger]

He's as good as the other assassins, if not better frfr

[turbid rover]

No he’s not

Unc the worst assassin

😭

[sturdy dagger]

I know 🙃

[turbid rover]

So you want ur projectiles to be countered and be able to get mashed out by button?

Why would you want that

Also bubble goes half way of a stage

[fathom kelp]

marvin is easy? never heard that one before

[sturdy dagger]

I want a projectile during recharge not that particularly nutty. He has closer range attacks anyhow. Accumulate damage with shots in between recharge.

[turbid rover]

Marvin is easy only hard thing I would say is rocket setups

[turbid rover]

Maybe try out a mage character 👍

[sturdy dagger]

Maybe Marvin the guy with guns and rockets should be one. 🫠

[turbid rover]

No he actually isn’t anywhere close to a mage now that I’m thinking about it

If we compare him to Rick

Or reindog

[fathom kelp]

I guess

[turbid rover]

But he is

[fathom kelp]

I guess

[turbid rover]

What is hard abt Marvin?

[fathom kelp]

His whole kit and is difficult to kill confirm

not even downplaying

[tough wren]

Why do fighters with LONG JABS have no recovery can combo off of it while the stubby jabs have a ton of recovery and very little combo potential

Rick and Jacks all play the same lame neutral

literally carried by there dumb jab

[mossy hill]

welp

rick has this combo

[tough wren]

no brain cells required

[mossy hill]

side side then side special , up (with the whip perk to pull enemy to you) then continue comboing into jetpack

thats rick combo

literally u cant DODGE IT if u got hit the single jab

make sure the portal put the enemy in not you

[turbid rover]

He has a good jab string a insane up special his rocket can be very deadly his neutral special eats projectiles he has a button that reverses his projectiles so even if they whiff they can come back has a very good laser very very good laser his fair is decent able to charge and his up tilt is insanely good for edge guarding side special pulls in opponents for Marvin loops which aren’t hard and his air side special hit box is very good beating out moves like Steven fair his down special allows for his projectiles to track making up special even easier to hit

His kit is NOT hard

No characters kit is hard

I’m sorry to say

[turbid rover]

Uh you can combo off of stubby jabs take Steven’s Jake for example he can combo it into fair?

What jab do you mean

Even reindog has strings from his jab

I don’t know if they are true since I don’t main reindog

But I’ve been able to hit some

[sturdy dagger]

he is though, an ability to magnetize and reverse projectiles,seem pretty Mage-y already.

[mossy hill]

just swap marvin roles into mage lol

that simple answer

[fathom kelp]

His jab is trash

[turbid rover]

WHAT

[fathom kelp]

why are you being delusional

His jab blows

[turbid rover]

WHAT

WHAT

[fathom kelp]

You read what i said

stop being delusional

[turbid rover]

so his anti air jab string that also gives him a projectiles able to be reversed and be use to edge guard is trash

And the frames aren’t high so he can use jab very quickly

😭

Bros jab is very good

Idk what ur on

[fathom kelp]

It decent at most

[turbid rover]

It’s good

Not the best

[fathom kelp]

the delusion is sickening

[turbid rover]

It’s good

[fathom kelp]

decent

[turbid rover]

No

His jab can be insanely dangerous if ur on ledge btw

[sturdy dagger]

Give him ranged projectiles in recharge, that runs up damage super fast.

[turbid rover]

It’s basically his second best ledge guarding move

If you wanna say dair is his best

[fathom kelp]

The only good thing about his jab

[turbid rover]

His jab is also an anti air and has quick frames?

[fathom kelp]

"quick frames" 😭

[turbid rover]

Yeah the start up frames are fast?

What is wrong with Marvin’s jab?

[fathom kelp]

not really

Pretty slow and jab 3 can be easily dodged kinda like ricks jab but it's more likely that jab 3 will hit for rick

[sturdy dagger]

No, Marvins last attack goes farther and last longer and you can reverse.

[fathom kelp]

You do know that if you dodge it once and you reverse it, it doesnt have an active hitbox

what you chatting abt

Its a known bug for marvin to have phantom projectiles

[sturdy dagger]

People don't often dodge it funnily enough

[fathom kelp]

I guess

[turbid rover]

Pretty slow is insane and two jab 3 can be use to get a dodge read you can honestly end the jab string at jab 2 and wait for a dodge and go for the string again but jab 3 is mostly supposed to be use for long range in neutral you can also do jab jab into fair if you wanted too

[fathom kelp]

It's still slow ?

[turbid rover]

Marvin can make it bigger and faster with neutral special

[fathom kelp]

Bro what?

[turbid rover]

His jab 3?

[fathom kelp]

Thats a perk dawg

[mossy hill]

i think the total damage count is bugged lol

[turbid rover]

So the perk doesn’t apply when the jab 3 enters the bubble

Unless you redirect it

So you don’t need the perk

It does 11 damage

And goes way faster in the bubble

And you wouldn’t have enough redirects to make the perk work when the jab 3 is in the bubble

You can try for urself

If you think I’m wrong

But I just did it

[fathom kelp]

Im trying it rn

seems abt bs

[turbid rover]

Okay

You do that

[fathom kelp]

the perk makes little difference speed wise but I guess this all marvin got to work with

[turbid rover]

It only works if the jab 3 isn’t in the bubble

If it is in the bubble

There is no change

[fathom kelp]

barely a difference

[turbid rover]

Oh wait I said neutral special instead of neutral attack

Mb

I don’t really play Marvin

Mb for the mistake

[safe perch]

Game keeps crashing or breaking in 2v2 lobbies, fix it for the love of dear God

[craggy rapids]

Having a 80% win ratio and still not gaining any ground this RP system is a joke

[lapis glade]

^^^ +4 rp on win -20 on loss is absurd

[mossy hill]

PRETTY MUCHHHH

yeah

i got +5 against golds

90% of time

[lapis glade]

yeah lol

you need to get on a 5 win streak just to regain from aloss

[mossy hill]

how much did u got

from me again

prob +5 or +10

[mossy hill]

honestly

knowledge is power perk need be buffed lol

we need ice to beat you perk backkkk

esp for velma

[kindred stratus]

Wouldn’t it make sense for the new rift event to be released today and not tomorrow?

Because if it is another collecting stars event and we get them all today and not tomorrow, would we still get the rewards for them?

[remote dirge]

Silver vs masters (top 30 and tournament winner

Dawg fix RANKEEDDDD

I can’t keep fighting diamonds and masters in ranked as a silver

That’s shi is so unfair

[lapis glade]

if im remembering correctly it mightve been like 4 or 6?

i played a couple rounds after i fought you so its kinda blurry

[mossy hill]

Yeahh i only lost 7 too

[lapis glade]

i have no idea how the win and loss point system works

[lofty beacon]

What’s the point of having spikes that looks like they have a big hit boxes don’t, but spikes that looks like their small have big ones

[manic locust]

Steven Universe is ridiculously unbearable

[lofty beacon]

Why does Garnet have a short dash and slow start up jab

[deft sigil]

Some characters that are currently on event stores are noe unobtainable with fighter currency. Only accept gleamium and medal/circuits... is this intentional or some kind of error?

[lofty beacon]

Go to the character store

The fighter points can be used there

[deft sigil]

Thank you

[little heron]

fix the lag spikes

i cant keep losing games to them

[mossy hill]

what is spikes again

[narrow flame]

Down Airs

[lapis glade]

add a way to use stickers in the lobby with whoever youre partied with, itd be nice especially if youre partied with someone who you dont have contact with elsewhere. i need a way to say "My bad!" if i disconnect mid ranked match,,

you must be fun at parties

☑️

[lofty beacon]

Now that’s just to much work to do

[broken storm]

so how can we give feedback that 100% will reach the devs ?

i have a great rework idea for harley side special

i mean idk i guess i will say it right here but i guess this channel is not longer what it used to be lol

[olive mesa]

Just a pin that they say the do

[broken storm]

i am getting timed out and idk why

[olive mesa]

Devs are idiots

And simps

considering how they keep buffing Harley even though she needs a massive amount of nerfs

[broken storm]

she didnt get buffs or nerfs and she is balanced right now

i am just saying they need to rework her side special cuz its useless and has no place in her kit

maybe if they can turn it into a normal bat swing

[olive mesa]

She did get a buff and a bugfix in the latest patch

[broken storm]

that send horizontal, like a heavy move but faster than hammer but less force, since harely doesnt have good range on the ground and u have to spam down normal

we can make the side special a bat swing that can wiff punish and way it send ppl u can after that do mix ups and they can make it true combo with the jab combo

[broken storm]

thats berely a buff and the bug still happen, her dash attack still drops

[olive mesa]

They gave her a new hitbox and fixed a timer on her bat-toy thing issue

[broken storm]

and she is balanced right now and need no buff or nerfs

maybe buff the bad characters but they should not touch harley with buff or nerfs cuz as for right now she is just balanced

[olive mesa]

No she needs nerfs, a lot of nerfs. Her and Finn

[broken storm]

ok and batman and iron giant and gizmo and morty need another nerf and jake and stripe and black adam, like comon yall stop asking for nerfs

ur killing the fun

like morty didnt need nerf, he need fixes and adjustments like adding coldown that last 10 secs for every charge to mud wall with 2 charges to prevent the spam will fix the spam and keep the character fun to play when he uses it

or at least if u gonna kill his only tool which is mud wall why dont u fix the nades and reduse the force but give them more radius, like asking for nerfs only doesnt fix the issue

[olive mesa]

🧂

[broken storm]

what we need is adjustments fixes and reworks to fix characters kit

if they shift morty from spamming mud wall into buffing other tools and nerfing mud wall will fix him but noooo everyone has to cry and they for some reason listen to mad ppl that just want nerfs

and i am not talking about morty only this should be the aproach they should take when "nerfing" or fixing other characters like before nerfing think about how u could make everyone happy and nost just kill the character

i would be sooo glad to give ideas but i am not sure if they read this and idk where to give feed back that is 100% reaching the devs

[broken storm]

also finn is not broken, what makes him good is the fact that DI in this game is bad so if they buff DI they can fix alot of issues when it comes to annoying combos and 0 to deaths, like its soo easy to read someone 2 dodges and do a 0 to death to ppl cuz if u do read the 2 air dodges the DI is not enough to save u

which is i why harley is annoying to new players when they face a good harley and they are doing the same dodges over and over that a good harley can easily read

[hidden sapphire]

Morty rework ideia: (updated)

• Buffs
  -jab 1 is faster
  -whip faster (its not true on combo string)
  -down air attack faster
  -a little more speed (he is light as Marvin and slow as Garnet)

• Nerfs
  -Dirt (maybe???)

• Fixes
  -Dirt no longer gets stuck in certain maps
  -side air connects into side air 2
  -jab 3 fix (sometimes its not true on combo string, most times on hig%)

[broken storm]

now thats how u communicate with devs, not just by WAAAH WAAH NERF MORTY

[broken storm]

i would add to this list charges to dirt while keep it fast and nades need fixes , for some reason they kill super early with the weaken but the radius is bad so they can nerf force and buff radius and he needs new perk

cuz his best perk is mehhhh

[hidden sapphire]

Hammer perk buff!!

[broken storm]

i mean maybe, i think they should make an expermental queue and test stuff out there

[hidden sapphire]

Its so funny when i fight an Arya that uses the move cuz its so bad that even if she hits me i can still punish her

The Hammer one

[broken storm]

brawhalla has that, and yes for some reason BH devs dont use it but if mvs had an expermental queue and they tested stuff out that would be great

[hidden sapphire]

Fr fr

Morty rework ideia: (updated)

• Buffs
  -jab 1 is faster
  -whip faster (its not true on combo string)
  -down air attack faster
  -a little more speed (he is light as Marvin and slow as Garnet)

• Rework
  -Dirt start up lowered
  -Dirt now has charges (3)

-Granades knockback nerfed
-Granades radius buffed

• Fixes
  -Dirt no longer gets stuck in certain maps
  -side air connects into side air 2
  -jab 3 fix (sometimes its not true on combo string, most times on hig%)

[hidden sapphire]

@broken storm

[broken storm]

3 charges is alot make it 2 with 10 secs coldown on each charge but i mean they can experement with that the idea is they can make it charges instead of making it sooo slow and laggy on wiff

[crude thicket]

Not sure if this is just a me problem, but I havent had the circuit drone missions actually refresh with new missions. They just say they'll refresh everyday and then when I check theres no new ones still

[mossy hill]

its bugged

[final dawn]

Jack is honestly terrible, He's too OP to verse, Nerf him. His hitbox is way to big, his kick counters literally everything including dodges, he can spam his combo's since he has no limits. In maps with platforms he can hit you on both height and bottom because of the fat hitbox, if your going to make a character that OP, nerf his damage and buff harleys.

[mossy hill]

honestly jack is doble in 1v1 but in 2v2 his side special is literally dodge mania cuz its oppresive

[final dawn]

In a 1v1 scenario, especially in ranked. Its unfair, coming from a harley main, my attacks are plastic, the only thing that makes harley good is her ability to move freely with better dodging, but he can hit my dodges and hit me whenever he wants because of his huge hitbox, what am i supposed to do but die?

He needs nerfing

Jack is the only character i see in ranked mainly, thats because people have started to acknowledge how over powered he is

[sharp fjord]

"have started"... Jack has dominated ranked since release... He reached 25% pickrate

[final dawn]

Needs removing

[sharp fjord]

And PFG knows this, they have the data

This is what pisses me off

They're letting jack ruin a whole season of ranked

[final dawn]

Honestly, also with the fact theres limited maps chosen in ranked, its the same select few, with platforms my down attacks are blocked by the platforms and harley is extremely limited with other attacks

Which do actual damage

I'd rather not vs a character who has unlimited stamina, a huge hitbox, combos they can spam, and able to counter dodging

[signal socket]

I've just had a match where my teammate was weaker than me so my opponents focused on him... And my Gizmo was so much slower than other characters that I COULD NOT ASSIST. I spent about 45 seconds straight running after the opponents unable to land a single hit. I wasn't getting hit - I was just too slow to partifipate in the match. It was a 2v1 because my existence didn't matter. wtf.

[final dawn]

Bro they should add a counter to individuals who just waste time

[final dawn]

Wanna bet the top ranked players are jack

[mossy hill]

nope its not jack

it was finn then iron giant then shaggy lol

[icy aspen]

Locking single player content behind paid skins will kill this game. Please stop. If there’s going to be. Stage where I have to be circuit drone, at least give us one free circuit drone skin

[pure silo]

they did

[icy aspen]

Ah, embarrassing. How do I get that?

[final dawn]

And the rest jacks

Great im vsing a jack now

Gonna lose more points

[pure silo]

there is literally an event where you get a circuit coin or whatever it is for just playing the game

the issue isnt single player stuff but ranked

[icy aspen]

That circuit coin doesn’t get you a skin, also you have to play an obscene amount of PVP which isn’t my favorite, but fine

[icy aspen]

Incorrect. Lol. That can be your issue, but players who enjoy single player content are also worth considering.

[pure silo]

it literally gets you a circuit frone skin of your choice bro

[icy aspen]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the way it’s set up looks like a circuit coin + 500 gleaming

[pure silo]

i got it after 2 days, and i played for just like 2-3 hours per day

[pure silo]

bro you didnt even get it but tell me how it works

[icy aspen]

Thats why I said “correct me if I’m wrong”
If I’m wrong, the store setup is misleading, but I’m open to being corrected. You don’t need to make everything a fight just because it’s online.

[untold lintel]

It's one or the other, I learnt this the other day after farming the circuit coin thinking it was both but when I went to buy I had the choice between either

[pure silo]

the store is bad but everyone can see that the skins are either for 500 glem or 1 octagon whatever looking shape

[icy aspen]

Awesome, thank you! Okay, so I retract my statement. I still personally think it’s too much grinding for it, but at least it’s there.

[pure silo]

im not sayin its a good system

[icy aspen]

No, you’re right, I misunderstood. My feedback then should be shifted to getting the circuit, but I misunderstood the currency

[pure silo]

its good that for playing a lot you get free stuff. those events are good, but forcing people to play pvp or pve is pointless

[icy aspen]

Yeah exactly. I play this game a ton, but it’s for the rifts. I do every rift daily every day. Forcing me to play PvP makes it less fun for me, and less fun for people I play with because it’s not like they get a challenge. But yeah, I’m nowhere near the circuit because I don’t like PVP mode, so now it impacts my PVE mode. I don’t love the system

[sick maple]

totally agree on that !

[grizzled bane]

How you should buff Jason Voorhees without making him broken:

• Fixing his passive. Currently, his passive states "Jason cannot take knockback while he has GRAY HEALTH". There are two things wrong with his passive that should be addressed. 1) This passive ONLY applies to his neutral special's gray health. Make it so it will apply with ANY instance of additional gray health. 2) The passive is deceptive. It grants Jason armor instead, rather than just making it so he takes no knockback. This makes it so character can just use armor break moves and armor break perks to just go up and attack Jason with an extra 10 to 15 damage depending on how much Jason charged his neutral special. If you made it so the passive actually grants no knockback instead of armor, that would honestly be the best buff if you were to pick any of these. If not... please adjust the passive text to read "Jason gains armor while he has GRAY HEALTH" so it's not as deceptive.

• Jason's hurtboxes are huge, which is expected of a big character like him, but some of his hurtboxes are actually bigger than him. That can make it so people can attack his weapons when he has them streched out to attack, and Jason would get hit for it instead, trading moves when the attack the opponent threw out shouldn't have connected. If you aren't planning to adjust his hurtboxes (or are waiting until you tweaked everyone's hurtboxes/hitboxes), I suggest looking into intangebility frames on his arms for moves that use his Machete and Axe.

• As a heavy, Jason suprisingly only has one source of armor (which shouldn't even be classified as armor technically, given my first point). If you were to give some moves armor (Up Attack and Neutral Attack especially), that would help put him in line with other heavys like Superman and Wonder Woman.

• The nerf to his Jab 1 was... pretty unnecessary to say the least, especially with characters like Joker, Finn, and Wonder Woman (seriously, there was a tournamet not too long ago where like 8 of the 10 teams had a Wonder Woman in top 10). Reverting his Jab 1 would be really appreciated.

• In it's current state, Jason's sleeping bag is one of, if not, the worst move to use in a 1v1. It's only semi-decent in 2v2's. The recovery for missing is actually insanely long for what it is. I think adding armor to this move or reducing the endlag on whiff by a considerable amount would help this move out a lot.

• His perks are pretty interesting. You got Monsterous Sidestep, which is a pretty decent perk and people love to use it over anything else. The problem is the Ressurectionist perk. In it's current state, there's no scenario in either 1v1 or 2v2 where this perk would be chosen over the 5% perk or the Monsterous Sidestep perk. My suggestions for the Ressurectionist perk is this: Keep the timer before Jason has to disappear into his next like, but make him regain all his health for that short amount of time. One additional thing that would help Jason would be giving him his Rage automatically on top of that regained health, making him like the unstoppable horror rep that he's supposed to be.

That's all I have to recommend. Any additional buffs that I haven't said would be happily accepted as well, though I do understand you're trying not to make him broken, even if he is currently a bottom 5 character on many tier lists.

[dreamy bough]

#BringBackAttackDecay

[rotund plover]

i wanted to make screenshots to prove how bad the ranked point system is and give some more feedback but im just done. 2h and i lost 40 points besides having 55% winrate facing people in party and having teammates killing themselves on purpose cause unfair mm and broken chars like giant and joker, just nonsense of rank. And luckly today i had no teammate disconnecting like every other day i played.... Keep you recolored ranked skins and lose another player. There u go you did it

[hidden sapphire]

Morty rework ideia: (updated)

• Buffs
  -jab 1 is faster
  -whip faster (its not true on combo string)
  -down air attack faster
  -a little more speed (he is light as Marvin and slow as Garnet)

• Rework
  -Dirt start up delay removed
  -Dirt now has charges (2) (10 seconds cooldown)

-Granades knockback nerfed
-Granades radius buffed

• Fixes
  -Dirt no longer gets stuck in certain maps
  -side air connects into side air 2
  -jab 3 fix (sometimes its not true on combo string, most times on hig%)

[viral echo]

When I start a rift mission on Dexter’s laboratory, someone automatically gets knocked out

[prime magnet]

what should i buy with the circuit store token?

theres costumes n there is other things too

how long is the season?

[vagrant perch]

42 days

at least left

[prime magnet]

is 24 a good spot to be in the battle pass rn?

[vagrant perch]

i'm at 40, but is ok i guess

[prime magnet]

how long do you play a day?

[vagrant perch]

depends on the day

[verbal dome]

why do I still lose points if the opponent quits the set

lol

after he won 1 game

[vagrant perch]

you need to win the game

[verbal dome]

yes but forfeiting is losing

[vagrant perch]

game logic, i can't do a thing about that

[verbal dome]

ye ik but like

I don't see the logic myself??

[vagrant perch]

welp... i can't help

[vagrant perch]

also, how do you quit the match? i tried a lot of things but nothing works, i lost many matches with 1 game won because the players become good players from a game to other

[verbal dome]

he won a game

quit

then I lost

10 rp

like, if you implement ft2 sets, like tourneys

then you have to know forfeiting is a loss

whether you win or lose the first game

[quick vortex]

please buff garnet sing by making it come out faster right now it takes so long to activate it
and rhythm buff for by adding a 3rd stack that give extended range

[eternal moon]

hey yall i need help, i cant get anything in the store, it says no overlay available. What can i do to fix that?

[sonic folio]

I've seen people say that restarting the game works sometimes

[minor hound]

Ranked is such a dump, I just started playing on a new character, 0 experience, bad button presses, and I get dudes with gold, with platinum, who just mock me

WHERE ARE THE NEWBIES, WHY IS YOUR RANKED SUCH A DUMP, GOD

[sage bronze]

TAKE SAMURAI JACK OUT THE GAME OMFG EVB ABUSE HIM

[foggy ether]

Bruh y'all need to chill.

Jack isn't broken. He could have more whiff lag on side special. Maybe gain less focus.

[eternal moon]

it did not work

[sonic folio]

yeah i guessed so, sometimes is just a matter of waiting. i have several bugs that have been persisting for weeks

the other thing i can suggest is reinstalling the game, but even then that has not helped me

[grizzled bane]

Restarting the PC usually works, but PFG needs to fix the game if that's the only solution for bugs like that

[sonic folio]

yeah, animations have been freezing or looping incorrectly for so long in my end, theres some textures not loading either

[grizzled bane]

That's a first I've ever heard of texture issues tbh

[sonic folio]

i've seen quite a few people say it

on the giant robot boss in the riffs

there was a clip about it, but im too lazy to look it up lol

[sleek sequoia]

It's really not worth releasing rifts if its going to be this apparent you do not care about them. A good amount of the battles are missing dialogue (especially the ones that seem like they would need it most- like the ones where you play as circuit drones, or the harley one at the end), some of the nodes still do not work properly- and these also haven't worked in past rifts. The superman skin's text goes too far over the nameplate. It seems every time you release a rift it has a list of small problems that could be spotted by anyone QA testing them a single time. It's fine if you don't care about rifts, I don't particularly think most of your player base does either- it's just embarrassing to release things in a broken state over and over again.

[finite wigeon]

having bronze 5 should not be a thing. sure if you have millions of players like league of legends, but with the amount of ppl who that multiversus you should have 2 AT THE MOST of each rank. having to rank up 5 times in the same rank feels HORRIBLE

[sharp fjord]

I really wanted to finish the battlepass, but I really can't stand the game right now...

[queen ingot]

Do something about Shaggy and his kick.

[verbal dome]

🤣

[grizzled bane]

Bro. Fix your servers. I legit couldn't do ANYTHING for an entire match

[dim axle]

Is it me or is the daily bonus completely broken. If I claim my the end of a match and it puts me to the next meter, I lose out on all bonus claims prior.

[grizzled bane]

Of course the game decides to stop lagging right when someone won in the free for all. It's actual dogwater how unplayable that was

[stuck sable]

Best out of 3 is the WORST feature ever brought to ranked and I hoped whatever loser came up with it gets in a car accident

[verbal dome]

lul

[grim parcel]

The communication from PFG has once again become nonexistent.

[grizzled bane]

Thank you for making me unable to play ranked for 5 minutes because your servers are dogwater garbage

[cursive copper]

I am once again asking for the Total Wins Badge to be added to the store page.

[grizzled bane]

Ok, nah, I'm starting to agree that we need to tweak Jack. My machete kept on phasing through his feet no matter what, whether he was attacking or not. Meanwhile, his foot hitbox is as big as Jason's hand hurtbox, which, if you somehow don't know PFG, is HUGE. Please for the love of god tone down Jack

Also, where is his whiff endlag?

[unborn urchin]

theres been an issue where right after the lag goes away , it speeds up and makes my character run off the stage

[ionic kettle]

this game is so unbalanced i honestly dont even know why i play it like how can developers screw a game up so bad

[foggy ether]

IG nerfs are real

[ionic kettle]

its just crazy the longer this game is out seems like the worse it gets all the projectiles unbreakable combos is outrageous

[stone olive]

Is there a reason that character unlocks are extremely tedious to earn? We get no character currency by playing the game. The only times there are, it's tied behind an event and only at specific levels. Toast is absolutely worthless. It would take 600 toasts to unlock one character. And oh boy that plus 100 every so many levels for playing a character. Completing the battle pass only gives you enough currency to unlock one character, unless it's Agent Smith then you're still out of luck. And this is on top of all of the other predatory tactics used in the game. F.O.M.O, events/missions that require skins (that cost real money) to complete, rifts with missions that require skins (that cost real money) to complete, forcing players to play rifts to complete challenges/events/missions, making gem xp extremely grindy just to finish all the difficulties (so you'll buy gem xp), the list goes on. So with all of these things stacked against players why not at least give us the ability to unlock characters from the franchises we enjoy?

[grizzled bane]

If you're gonna force BO3, make the timer between rounds non-existent so the opponent cant just toxically wait out both the "ready" timer and the setup timer

[ionic kettle]

@stone olivecouldnt of said it better myself

[grizzled bane]

...you disconnected me from online services while keeping me in a match? How the hell man.

[foggy ether]

Honestly this gives me an idea

IG can't kill Steven at 120 with meteor attack lol

[pseudo spear]

been like 2 months and the servers are still garbage

[static heron]

please for the love of god fix them

[olive hatch]

fix the hit boxes for finn sword its so awful

[formal moss]

Feedback after hundreds of hours in the game including ranked, on 1GB wired fiber speeds:
Agent Smith - Clone command grab will just disappear and let go of opps for no reason, even when there is no buff enabled. His pistol should also be a counter to Jack's Side Special, seeing as Jack doesn't teleport just moving quickly.
Banana Guard - Lack of attack decay really shines with BG. His moves knockback is SO heavily weighted in all directions that it should be toned down just a quite a bit. Uncharged attacks should not send anyone flying mid to full screen by anyone, ever. Also the back of his spear is a hitbox and you can get knicked from behind him? Should just be the tip so he can be properly punished by getting behind him.
Batman - Footdive hitbox needs adjustment
Black Adam - SAir punches still don't consistently connect to one another regardless of percentages. Potentially change first punch to 0 KB to remedy
Bug Bunny - Windmill punches shouldn't cause a vacuum. He should be properly punished for simply dodging and continuously attempting this move. SAir also should only have his feet be hitboxes and not almost his entire body. Rocket is bugged and will kill himself or go in wrong direction
Finn - All sword Hitboxes are incredibly disjointed. There's also hit register issues where his hit will register before animations.
Garnet - Forward punches should not hit behind her.
Gizmo - Arrows linger too long at times. Car will sometimes go full vertical and act as a wall.
Harley - Hitboxes are severely disjointed. Hammer will go through people, Bat will go through people, Jabs are inconsistent and don't properly connect to last bat swing enough. Doll will stick to teammate more than opp, maybe prioritize this diff if possible? Jack in the box also pops for no reasons sometimes.
Joker - Crowbar hitbox shouldn't start at the bottom of his swing. mid way would be perfectly fair
Marvin - Projectile spam camping at a historic high. Will run away and continue with no engagement but get rewarded
Morty - Dirt needs a cooldown full stop. His Sair is also incredibly inconsistent. UAir needs less knockback at lower percentages. Grenade and wall camping is at an all time high
Reindog - Creativity really low when 1-2 moves connect into each other. After certain percentages, getting out of certain loops is impossible. Should be able to punish more often in some way.
Side Special Jack - Side special needs a rework. Either a cooldown, much more end lag for whiffs, or repeat move lockout of some sort. Being able to use it repeatedly is very unhealthy for the game, especially when tied to focus. Focus also needs a second look. Getting rewarded for getting hit, and following it up with an even more powerful version of moves doesn't make sense. It should fill when in combat and landing hits successfully. Reward good gameplay, no just, gameplay. His focused Side Special should also not hit multi slashes if the first hit whiffs. This also rewards just side special and pray. There are moments where he gets stuck on the edges of maps and can't move but is in the falling animation.
Shaggy - another character that needs attack decay. Players will side kick, dodge side kick until it connects and the hitbox lingers way too long, as well as hits behind him. Could change the distance traveled and reduce knockback to bring him in. He's also lost almost all combo potential so why not spam one of his only moves? Knee is also disjointed and will whiff pretty consistently.
Superman - Sniper punch hunting is poor gameplay but used too often because of large knockback and dmg. Lower KB
Taz - There was mention of opening up moveset for more variety, but still suffers from players using same strong 2-3 moves. Taz shows a pattern of low dmg games, because of hi KB moves being used over and over again. Unhealthy and boring opp
Tom - Tennis ball launches need to be look at.

Gameplay issues and feedback:
Ranked Map rotation - Tower hardly comes up in 2v2 ranked, if at all. I've personally never I repeat NEVER played on it all through ranked. However, Townsville is noted to be the most played on stage out of all stages, and it's by far the least healthy. Having MOJO stay in a competitive scene creates unnecessary situations that tilt gameplay in ways that take away from the skill of playing. If you're going to keep Townsville, remove Mojo and add platforms. Dexter 2 should have slightly larger blast zones that are further out. Killing at 60 because the zones are so narrow, makes having 4 platforms feel claustrophobic. As an overall change you also shouldn't be put on the same map twice in a single match. Maybe instill a voting system and if there's no clear vote then it's randomly decided.
Let us reroll challenges - This was a feature in the beta and it's a feature in almost every modern F2P game. Bring it back. Players shouldn't be forced into playing game modes they don't find fun to progress in a battlepass they paid for. If you want them to stay on the game longer, let them play the way they want to play, not how you want them to play.
Give character currency for playing the game - not being able to get character currency while playing is a weird decision. Reward your players like you did in the beta.
Netcode - The netcode was spoken highly about, yet players with good internet are still getting punished by rollback. If possible, implement a feature that let's players see their opp connection value, and opt into playing them or not. Tbh bad connected players shouldn't both A) have an advantage over good connected players and B) play in ranked in the first place. It's 2024. Wire up by now or have the player work on their own shortcomings. Holding their hand creates bad moments in gameplay and is not fun for everyone. Too many times have we seen characters get hit by moves no where near them, or hits going through opp because of these issues.
Battlepass - This BP is already noticeably harder to level up because of the xp requirements. Lower them a bit.
Combo potential - It seems the general philosophy for this has gotten completely redone. The game has devolved into jabs or 10% of moveset being used over and over again, while no real combos are being done anymore. Just small hits with a large knockback finish. This is just a rinse and repeat type of gameplay that has low skill floor and ceiling. You're almost never rewarded for being creative anymore because the longer combos are almost never true until a regular combo would do the same job in 1-3 hits. This makes gameplay feel repetitive and stale after the first 100 hours of dealing with it. You have defensive mechanics built into the game, why not let us utilize them and get rewarded for them.

Defense Mechanics - Speaking of, these all need severe reworks. Dodge meter not filling correctly is an huge annoyance. There are many moments where meter is full but doesn't replenish even when in the middle of combat for the majority of the game. It was explained that campers get punished and fighters get reawrded, but this hasn't been the case at all since launch. Parry is borderline useless in 2v2 because the freeze doesn't last long enough to punish, if the parry even works at all. Parrying projectiles seems useless as well since you're wasting a neutral dodge to destroy it, meanwhile they're bum rushing you and now you can't dodge cuz you wasted meter. There are even moments where Parry will freeze the user and not the app. Camping is not being addressed correctly if they can be rewarded for their gameplay, but the active fighters have to coin flip if they're going to be rewarded or punished.
Attack Decay - This just needs to come back. You initially had this in game to stop spamming and to stop rewarding bad repetitive gameplay. The current system is getting exploited to the fullest because there is simply no reason to use different moves then the hardest knockbacker or largest hitboxes.

Overall it seems much of the thought that went into the game initially has been void since official launch. This is becoming more and more apparant when y'all start re-implimenting things that were in the beta, that y'all took out of the current build. You were on to something then, and it can still be balanced with great cosmetics and fun game modes. But the game is slowly bleeding players because of lackluster balance chan

[cinder sable]

Someone give me a tldr

[formal moss]

TLDR game needs major reworks, hitbox adjustments and bug fixes

[turbid rover]

Honestly idk if you think that if a character has a good move players won’t abuse it

I mean Taz has low damage games because he has a insanely strong fair and good edge guarding

Same with ig

[formal moss]

I know they will but getting rid of combo potential because you can abuse it when that used to not be the case is a step backwards

at least not as much of the case

[cinder sable]

Ah so what everyone has said since the game released. Gotcha

[formal moss]

We used to do some great combos in beta because movement was faster and a moveset worked into each other. Labbing was great. Now it's tough to justify when every character has a few good moves

[turbid rover]

They didn’t want the game to be combo focused

[formal moss]

the cynicism is palpable I just wanted to give detailed input instead of complaining

[turbid rover]

Is what I assumed

They wanted the gameplay to be easier to keep track of

For newer players

And make it more beginner friendly

Which it is

[cinder sable]

They chose casual play over skill

[turbid rover]

And 2s was insane to watch since the movement

[turbid rover]

Yeah

[formal moss]

Yeah they said that and I think that's poor design choice imo for a fighting game. Dont need super long combos but some flair makes the game fun to play and watch

[olive hatch]

devs actually read this

[turbid rover]

If you want a game with more mechanics might as well play smash

[turbid rover]

I mean some characters have good combos if that’s what ur looking for

I mean you can make a string with every character

[formal moss]

I dont wanna I actually used to reallly like this game cuz of its movement options and attack decay helped skill rewarding gameplay feel, well rewarding

[turbid rover]

But obviously most players won’t bother

[turbid rover]

There still is attack decay it just doesn’t show up because of screen clutter probably

But like I said

You can always just play smash

If you want better movement

[formal moss]

yeah I understand we can combo, but with netcode problems and inconsistent connectors online, along with just heavy hitting small branched moves there is less of a reason to combo and more of areason to just use the same moves. I think that's just an odd redirection from the beta time

[prime magnet]

bruh we won a match in rank but then someone left and then it said partial rank reduction 20

[formal moss]

I don't want to play smash I want elements that were in the beta to come back with more consistent connectivity and hitboxes that makes sense lol

[turbid rover]

Well even when the netcode problem is fixed which will prob never happen but like I said in higher level gameplay there will be combos but for the more causal side there is no need

[turbid rover]

Im sorry to break it too you but as much as I want beta to come back they probably won’t up the game speed anymore

[formal moss]

I just wanted to put my message in the bottle for them to hopefully see and consider. I want the game to grow and not feel like there's no hope in progress. If there isn't then well, like you pointed out there's always another game to play.

[turbid rover]

And we prob will never get another evo

[formal moss]

I'm honestly just waiting for 2XKO to release lmao

[turbid rover]

I don’t think they read in here honestly but great input

[turbid rover]

I’ve switched to ggst

Honestly I’ve lost hope in this game

[formal moss]

It feels like a lot of people have and I'm tetering but I'm a masochist so I keep coming back to see if they'll change for the better before it's too late

[turbid rover]

I think it’s honestly two late they have yet to give us a good balance change they dropped a patch that was mediocre just so they can give out bo3 we have yet to have replays of any kind or even be able to use unlocked skins in beta limited characters in local boring gameplay and broken characters that have yet to drop any tiers from when they were nerfed

If s3 doesn’t save this game it will prob die

[grizzled bane]

Has anyone else been spiked through the stage if they're standing on the ledge?

[turbid rover]

Yeah server issue

[prime magnet]

im confused. It says i have 2 people in gold with my 2v2 badge but ive only done 1 person to gold rank. can this be broken and you can keep deranking and rank up and keep gaining a gold?

[turbid rover]

For the opponent it’s like you are on top of the ledge but for you ur not

So you can get spiked

[grizzled bane]

That sucks. My axe phased through shaggy's arms as I just get spiked through the stage. Gotta love ranked mode.

[turbid rover]

Pc has a lot of issues rn

[grizzled bane]

Specifically PC only?

[turbid rover]

Yeah basically

More desync issues

[grizzled bane]

Damn. That REALLY sucks then

[turbid rover]

More server problems

Higher chances of penalty from ranked

Freezing

Running off stage

[normal adder]

Idk if this is a PS5 only issue but like sometimes the game just freezes up and I just can't control my character anymore and my inputs just don't work and this is happening in ranked mind you

[grizzled bane]

I'm guessing the PC problems are trickling into other platforms then?

[sharp fjord]

honestly, I disabled crossplay on PC on the first day, and I very rarely have connection issues

[turbid rover]

No the freezing up happens more often on pc but it happens to everyone

[noble root]

do you guys think jasons jab jab side special is a fair move (im just curious)

[turbid rover]

Yeah but it’s annoying

[sharp fjord]

I understand Jason is a character with virtually zero combo game, but this jab, jab, side special combo is too rewarding for such an easy move

killing people at 80 with such a simple combo is bs imo

[noble root]

yea i agree

cause he has so much kill power

and to then have A easy kill confirm combo

is dumb

i

dont think he should have combo

s

[normal adder]

It happens to me every game I don't think it's just a PC only problem

[turbid rover]

Many characters have kill strings? So I don’t understand the problem

[turbid rover]

Lots of characters kill early Jason needs kill potential he is difficult to play unless you get dodge reads

Jason also can die very easily and not be able to recover very well

Taking away his best string because it kills early is stupid

[noble root]

i think that can be debated idk

i think its more to do with how it kills to easy

not that its a combo

and literrally can instantly put u into disadvantage

[turbid rover]

It’s not debatable

[noble root]

(since most of the time it can send u offstage)

[turbid rover]

Lots of characters kill easily?

[turbid rover]

Jason edge guarding isn’t the greatest tbh

Only way you lose to Jason edge guarding is if he has his neutral special

[noble root]

which is most of the time

[turbid rover]

Eh idk the cooldown is decent and the armor is easy to break

[noble root]

m maybe its bad matchup for people who complain i guess

[turbid rover]

You play Tom and Jerry?

[noble root]

no

used to

[turbid rover]

Who do you play

[noble root]

reindog

[turbid rover]

That mu is free

[noble root]

(jack)

[turbid rover]

😭

If ur losing to Jason on reindog it’s because of you not the character

[noble root]

i play jack smh

[turbid rover]

You shouldn’t be getting hit by jab jab side special tbh

[turbid rover]

That’s even better

[noble root]

and yes i do agree that his jabs should be nerfed abit

[turbid rover]

Jason won’t be able to recover

[turbid rover]

Jack has one of the best jabs in the game?

Ur trying to make a bad character worse because he’s good at what he’s supposed to do

[noble root]

1 whiff and im dead 😔

[turbid rover]

Youll kill Jason earlier then he kills you and you have better neutral

And you have free jab combos good range really good buttons a nice fair good up special a long down special grey health and buffed moves that apply weakness and you have a counter

So it’s a skill issue tbh

[warm wing]

Bro, is there any labbed out way to di out of finns zero to death combos? I have lost so many games due to just getting hit by a move at zero percent. Do I need to di up or down? Please help 😭

[sharp fjord]

DI downwards

[noble root]

but 1 whiff and i die

[turbid rover]

Skill issue just don’t whiff

[turbid rover]

You can parry the side special

Dodge downwards when they go for backpack

Parry up tilt

Uh

Guess right in the up tilt guessing game

[warm wing]

Okay bet

At zero tho?!

Imma just live in fear against fin

[turbid rover]

Honestly you shouldn’t be dying at zero you gotta just play Finn’s and learn the mu

Just work on parrying Finn’s

And you win really

If the matchup is good and you don’t get baited a lot ofc

[gentle zinc]

that giant text wall was kinda spittin

i'm ready for Samurai Jack nerfs now and I hope you guys never release a character this dumb with hitboxes

[turbid rover]

Wait till mid season

Pray he even gets nerfed tbh

[turbid rover]

So I guess we’ve never seen prime joker

[gentle zinc]

he doesn't bother me he's just annoying

RN Just Samurai Jack & All the dc characters

make Jason's moves a little faster or have more active hits and he'll be a great character for people that like the challenge

and give him enough armor to tank 1 non armor breaking hit

Don't think he really needs anything else but if we're just gonna take free buffs for him then maybe a get off me button like IG

[turbid rover]

Every character is annoying

[turbid rover]

Honestly he’s fine as a low tier character some characters just have to be bad unfortunately

[gentle zinc]

very true

[gentle zinc]

that's not even remotely true if that's the case it needs to be IG

but he's beyond cray

[turbid rover]

Ig should be low tier with Jason sure but his kit is just good I can’t say much abt that

He was low tier or mid tier in beta

[gentle zinc]

I don't think he was I think people just didn't know what they were doing and same with Jason there's no reason I should be top 300 with a character if he's truly this bad

I play him because I love horror and hate armor and the grabs beat armor so I can spam grabs against people that think they'll get away spamming armor

[turbid rover]

Uh top 300 in the world or on the character and two ranked doesn’t matter

[gentle zinc]

WW went from an S tier pain in my butt to a play thing and its wonderful. Just trying to figure out how to navigate black adam more. 300 with the character I guess

[turbid rover]

Then that doesn’t mean anything if you are 300 with the character

Means you are 300 ranked with the other ppl that play Jason

[gentle zinc]

means plenty if only another 200 are better than me 😂

[sturdy dagger]

You can't properly fully utilize a character with the left analog, right trigger, and the three front buttons.

In smash you can genuinely do everything with everything with the right stick, special, melee, and dodge.

That's just a thought.

[turbid rover]

Uh no it doesn’t 😭

Especially in ones

You being 300 just means you play ranked more than the other Jason’s

[turbid rover]

Huh I use right analog?

I use left trigger for neutral dodge

And wym three front buttons

[sturdy dagger]

Jump attack special

[turbid rover]

Well one in smash you have a shield and using right stick is the way you dodge and two you can’t have both smash and tilts on right stick it’s one or the other so idk what you mean

[turbid rover]

You want to use right analog to jump?

[gentle zinc]

and i'm better than them

can't get there losing

it means something

now the ones ahead of me are cracked I don't see how they do it but they do

[turbid rover]

Huh

[turbid rover]

Bro that just means you play ranked more

Yes you have to win

But you just need to play consistently

And you could easily hit a good rank

[near oar]

nerf black adam

[sturdy dagger]

Right stick is better than the attack plus direction.

neutral attack is inconsistent without the special neutral button, especially moves you need to drop down.

Mobility on certain moves are stunted if you try neutral attack with the main attack button.

[gentle zinc]

not how that works you gotta win

if this was destiny 2's ranked yeah

[bitter bramble]

if jason doesn't get buffed next patch i'm quitting

[turbid rover]

But that is how it works they give you multiple chances not to derank honestly you have to win obviously but like I said just play consistently and ur good

[sturdy dagger]

I meant left stick. 🫣

[gentle zinc]

just because you play consistently doesn't mean you'll get high ranks

everybody assumes just because you play something a lot you'll be good or reach high ranks and that's not how that works. You'd think but some people can't win

[turbid rover]

Oh

[turbid rover]

Ranked is NOT hard I promise you if you play consistently oml you can do very well lmao

[turbid rover]

If you play ranked let’s say twice a day and you win one match and lose the other ur likely to be getting slightly more rp then you lost unless you’ve hit ur hidden mmr cap then you just gotta go on a win streak but as long as ur win rate is 60-100% ur getting master

[gentle zinc]

nobody is gonna have that win rate unless they're good and using the best characters in the game and on average most aren't doing that

I'm not trying to argue about why ranked actually matters either this was about jason

[turbid rover]

Bro what 😭 ur telling me you don’t have a 60% win rate or above

That may or may not be a skill issue

Like I know ur on Jason but you can average a 60% win rate with Jason

[gentle zinc]

win rate is 54% and I don't wanna hear that until you pass me with him

BUT

Again most people aren't going to have that

[turbid rover]

Okay bet

I will

[gentle zinc]

if you're cracked then you're cracked

[turbid rover]

Nah I’m like average

What rank are you

[gentle zinc]

gold 2 😂

[turbid rover]

Oh bruh

My fault

Nevermind

[gentle zinc]

Silver 3 in 2v2 but I dipped out after the first match with a shaggy and samurai jack

[turbid rover]

I stopped playing 3 days into ranked

I got bored

Honestly don’t plan on playing it anymore

[gentle zinc]

still tryna see that 60% with Jason though 👀

if you can get it I wanna 1v1 and see what you're doing that I'm not

[turbid rover]

Alright

I can mirror but ion really play Jason

Dm

[gentle zinc]

straight up I never use the air grab and I never use bag. haven't figured out how to use em in a combo yet

after you get 60% win rate 👀

I don't wanna just 1v1 you if you don't play him

Superman destroyed me so I guess he is still a problem for me. his grab beats mine and its kinda dumb

[turbid rover]

Nah I know a lil Jason stuff i don’t main him is what I’m saying

You said gold 2 right?

[gentle zinc]

yep gold 2

[turbid rover]

Bruh wait sets r best of 3

[gentle zinc]

yeah

[turbid rover]

I’m not putting over a 50 games into Jason imma be real

[obtuse onyx]

Am I wrong or was there daily quests for events last season?

The Last two events especially the last event The circuit Drones never refreshed daily

Even though it says it would refresh daily

[turbid rover]

You had to play PvP

The missions were just to give you a free tier

Help you get started

[obtuse onyx]

But last season they had daily quests throughout the events. I am finding the pvp a slog especially with the ranked changes to 3 games. Oh well.

[turbid rover]

Welp it happens

[obtuse onyx]

Yep makes it easier to play less and less. Not sure why the made the changes they did. Especially to skins and events. Now you have to pay for xp boost skins no matter what at least last season you had a chance to earn at least one in events.

[prisma tapir]

Haven't had a good fun night in a while. I'm uninstalling. See you all when the game relaunches again in 2 years

[flint tundra]

Ima need more RP for ranked wins, these higher rank matches are giving me carpal tunnel

[sharp fjord]

personally, I got tired of losing 2 victories worth for a single defeat

I won't touch ranked again until they make sense of it

[lofty beacon]

I wanna know whose dumb idea it was to make Jacks forward special armor break even without the rage meter.

Whatever they were on, I want some of it to help me make stupid decisions

[autumn estuary]

got my grass sword ringout today c: not spending more money on your game until you give me more fern account cosmetics tony

[mossy hill]

man my head isnt even hit the paddle and still HIT ME

tnj hitbox on the paddle so weird

sometimes it hit me IF i attack

sometimes it doesnt hit

[stone sluice]

Attack decay should be reverted to how it was in the beta

[mossy hill]

its still in gamer OMFG

it just not the text

[stone sluice]

I said reverted back

To how it was

😐

[stone sluice]

OMFG you can’t read

[mossy hill]

they just have the attack decay

but NOT THE TEXT

they did explained the text is removed cuz it just blocking the screen most likely

[stone sluice]

I said revert back to how it was because it was still changed

[oak barn]

Has anyone win the first round of a set, and then enemy quits the game and you lose points ?

[feral shadow]

no

[mossy hill]

it counts as win for you

so usually you wont lost points

[river burrow]

please nerf arya please, her dodge attack combos into an m1 combo and her dash combos into the dodge attack and does 30 damage PLEASE PLEASE NERF PLEASE

[mossy hill]

she is glass cannon and yeah the t 1

tier 1

[river burrow]

doesnt hcange anything the dodge attack is insane broken nerf that and her side air

and shes balanced

[mossy hill]

lmao the fact her down air attack is fast AF

like legitly its fast af and she can instantly dodge