game-feedback

[molten ice]

Please bring back attack decay every samurai jack spams side special and side attack shaggy kicks and Harley hammer it needs to come back

[tough wren]

so many cons and very little pros but yet they felt the need to nerf him

the balance team needs to get it together

they just need to add recovery on whiff for jack side special and he'd be fine

same for shaggy

i hate how you could be winning against shaggy and just end up losing in like 3 interactions

he does so much damage and kills so early

also lebron should have armor on his slam dunk

[finite wigeon]

having bronze 5 should not be a thing. sure if you have millions of players like league of legends, but with the amount of ppl who that multiversus you should have 2 AT THE MOST of each rank. having to rank up 5 times in the same rank feels HORRIBLE

[stiff swallow]

something needs to be done about solo players being paired against a duo in a party

[foggy ether]

How? It’s like that in any game.

[stiff swallow]

name some?

a lot of live service games i know have systems that prevent solo queuing players from being put into matches with stacks

such as Overwatch

there's even less of an excuse for it to be happening in Multiversus, there's only 4 players in a match

are you gonna name examples or

[foggy ether]

COD, DBD, idk like every game

[stiff swallow]

those are coincidentally absolute aids to play

[foggy ether]

What I think would be more realistic is rank matchup

[whole pond]

I still don’t understand why in ranked I die at 45 but not killing enemies at 145 off top screen

Make it make sense

[foggy ether]

Yeah because that problem sucks lol but I think it’s worse in DBD

[foggy ether]

In smash there’s like a “almost blastzone” this game don’t got that

[uncut portal]

Revert Bron changes you coward ass devs

Cant balance for poop

[whole pond]

I don’t even know what to call what just happen I need to send the video

Explain all that

[whole pond]

Yeah something is up Steven universe needs to be looked at I can’t kill at 200 off top screen vs a bugs

I’m a tank an die at 23 from 2 up specials

[foggy ether]

Imagine -32…. That’s what I just got in 2v2

After getting like +8 a couple times

Just won the next match….
+5

[stuck sable]

If you make Pickle Rick a fighter, make him the same size as Jerry (Tom n Jerry)

[foggy ether]

This is hilarious and evil lol

[kind inlet]

it would be nice if the attack decay was more effective in doing its job. most players keep getting away with spamming the same move for the whole match.

[stuck sable]

I think that would make him stand out as a unique character, it would make canonical sense, and it would give him a unique playstyle as he would potential both be hard to hit but also possibly give him very small range

[foggy ether]

He would have to be gremlin size. Hopefully you’re not talking about just the mouse Jerry. Because that’s too small to hit.
I like the idea though

[stuck sable]

well at least the pickle itself should be the size of Jerry, maybe his mech legs and arms could make him bigger. I mean it's literally just a regular pickle in the show, I've never seen a man sized pickle. It would make more sense for him to be tiny. Also imagine the contrast with Iron Giant

[autumn estuary]

tony if you nerf finn I'll only forgive you when i get more fern account cosmetics

[foggy ether]

Yeah making mech parts bigger makes more sense.

Iron Giant is bigger in movie though

Like way bigger

[stuck sable]

and Pickle Rick would absolutely be either as small as Jerry or even smaller as he is literally the size of a regular pickle in Rick and Morty

I mean one of his legs is literally just the reanimated leg of a dead rat

[foggy ether]

Definitely put it in character wishlist section

[stuck sable]

Well actually rats are slightly bigger than mice, so yeah with the rat legs attatched to his pickle I would imagine he would just be slightly bigger than Jerry

[stuck sable]

Yeah good idea, I might do that

[worldly tree]

SAMURAI JACK NEEDS A NERF NOW: I went 3:0 (in favour of the Jack player). The person I was fighting continuously spammed his side Y and hit it every time, due to this attack being the easiest to hit in the game. If a character exists where all they need to do to win it keep pressing one button then this isn’t a fighting game it’s a cookie clicker

[foggy ether]

I think it needs more whiff lag

[worldly tree]

What in gods name is whiff lag

[lusty sparrow]

end lag

[worldly tree]

So you mean a time in between where they can’t use the move again?

[lusty sparrow]

yes

like for example how sephiroth has a ton of endlag after octoslash.

[foggy ether]

Like if he misses, the move gets more lag than if it hit.

[worldly tree]

That feels like such a simple addition

Yet I have full confidence the Multiversus developers won’t do anything

[lusty sparrow]

nerfs for jack prob wont happen until next season. they want people to buy the battlepass

[foggy ether]

Honestly that’s the only nerf he needs.
After that it would be harder for players to abuse it

[worldly tree]

Why did they make it so you have to rematch in ranked now?

[foggy ether]

Well it actually was there in the beginning. But a bug caused issues with it so it was removed. Just BO1. Then it was fixed

[worldly tree]

I don’t think I like it, a little unconsumed friendly

[foggy ether]

Yeah, i have my reasons why I don’t too. But players actually complained it wasn’t there lol.
I for one didn’t want it back.

I want it optional

More rewards more losses if chosen

[hazy bone]

WHY HAVE THEY NOT ADDRESSED THE RANK FORCED REMATCH YET!!!!

Everyone HATES IT. FIX IT

Ruining my playing experience!!!

Actually making me angry they have not even talked about it!

[foggy ether]

It was there since beginning chill bro.

It was bug that stopped it.

Tell the players that wanted it

[hazy bone]

There is a difference between rematch as an option and FORCED REMATCH

Ain't gonna chill actually ruining my mood

Wasting hours on end to win in order for 1 loss to take it all away

Whereas winning originally 1 match without the best of 3 would give the same RP

The RP is messed up

[foggy ether]

RP system doesn’t feel rewarding
And
I think players want a optional rematch like other modes

[hazy bone]

Exactly. Especially with the time you now have to put in (takes twice as much time to go up compared to how it was). Most people have school and jobs so no one wants to waste their whole day grinding for minor progress in order for it to get taken away. It really sucks cause I feel like the game can be great but there is too much stuff all over the place. The full release has felt to me more of a Beta compared to the OG Beta

[weak badge]

Players never happy before complain about no bo3 and now about it

[hazy bone]

I for one liked how it was

But the best of both worlds just give the OPTION for BO3

Making everyone happy

[foggy ether]

Exactly. Good way to put it is this.
Ranked feels like your battling against points system.
Not players

[hazy bone]

Agree 100%

[worldly tree]

Also why do I still get a penalty even if I lag out due to the servers?

[foggy ether]

Unfortunately tons of games are like this. I mean it makes sense.
Because if you DC then that’s your punishment. Because it’s sabotage.
But not every DC is intentional

[hazy bone]

I just wish the DC penalty was a base RP decrease (like 5 Rp and increase the wining team by like 5 RP). One time in 2v2 my teammate DC'ed during the first round of BO3 and I get penalized -32 RP

[foggy ether]

Exactly

[worldly tree]

Yeah because why would the winning team quit?

Besides getting kicked

[stuck sable]

Jack's side special is incredibly hard to punish.
It has incredibly range, its hitbox is enormous and extends far above the sword, it has no cooldown what so ever, it has significantly faster startup than most other attacks in the game, and it has almost no whiff time at all. On top of this his focus charges at an absurdly fast rate and gives Jack player a more powerful version of his attack just for landing normal attacks, not having to put in any specific effort to charge it like other fighters specials.

Yeah I get that it doesn't have the same spike as banana guard's spear, but banana guard's speak is a telegraphed attack with a lot of whiff and short range.

It's incredibly hard to avoid Jack's side special when you're off the stage because the hitbox lasts longer than your dodges and it often extends above your dodges range even if you dodge above or below it. What's more since it's so incredibly fast Jack can often hit you with multiple side specials in a row. He can send you flying to the side with his side special, then immediately use his incredibly hard to dodge side special on you when you're still recovering from the knockback to knock you off the stage.

This is absurd, this is an incredibly strong move with very little risk involved for the Jack using it.

[foggy ether]

To be fair I have been rewarded RP when I won 1st match and they DC

Bruh seriously?

[stuck sable]

Yeah this. I played with a friend yesterday and we made goood progress towards ranking up winning several games and getting like 12 to 14 points each, suddenly the game puts us against significantly higher leveled players with a match that doesn't feel very fair at all and forces us to rematch them. then it gives us a -30 penalty. Then it does that against with a -29 penalty.

So now when we were pretty much 40 points away from ranking up from many long matches that gave us very small points, we suddenly are back to zero with those two losses giving us -60.

I don't understand the reasoning, ESPECIALLY since we didn't lose 2:0 we won one of the rematches but ultimately lost. Why is that a full -30, and why do I never get +30 from regular matches?

This point system feels sisyphean and incredibly unfair.

[foggy ether]

I realized that it’s fighting against the RP system rather than players.

If you lose, you lose big.

Also it doesn’t seem like you ever gain more RP, but you certainly can lose more the higher you go.

You NA or EU?

Server

[stuck sable]

I would be less upset if I also won +30 RP for incredibly hard games, or if it negated the loss when I won one of the rematches. Or if it at the very least let me decline rematches when I have an awful teammate and the enemy team are diamond/master rank players spamming salt and teabagging on victory.

But how winning a rematch does nothing to change the outcome of the final loss penalty, and how I lose SO MUCH MORE RP for a loss than what I gain from a victory... this is brutal. I have so many friends that ragequit and just stop playing ranked completely because all their points are taken away in an instance, and sometimes for incredibly unfair things like being forced to rematch while your teammate if AFK or actively killing themselves or significantly lower level than yourself.

The rewards for 1 game before we had the best of 3 was ironically SIGNIFICANTLY better than this. Because right now you can win 2 games and get the same reward you used to get for playing one game, and you can get double the loss for a match you know is unwinnable with a teammate you know you don't want to play with against enemies you KNOW are significantly stronger than you.

[foggy ether]

Same. I what I found is when playing with EU players it causes more issues. Even a rematch glitch

[gritty cipher]

The Drone Circuit Event is a joke. it is imposible to finish without spending gleamium or playing hundreds of games. I have flashbacks from the last beta battlepass.

[little heron]

OJNE MORE GAME LOST

[foggy ether]

PFG DEVS

I appreciate the attention to detail the art team has done, like the way Lost Jack kicks and punches looks exactly like the show for example.

I actually like everything in the Battlepass except for maybe the gems? I’m really enjoying the scooby doo ring out it’s my favorite.

I’m glad Ranked is here but the RP system does feel unfair.
It feels more like I’m fighting points rather than opponents.
I once lost over -13 from a rank 1 Master as I was a Platinum 1 rank.
You didn’t expect me to win that match did you?

As for nerfs and buffs, I think Samurai Jacks side special can have some end lag on whiff. I love the character and want to main him btw.

Lastly I think investigating hitboxes and hurtboxes of characters would go a long way in terms of fairly nerfing and buffing characters.

Also. It would be great to start knowing when a character will release instead of wondering and wondering. Thanks guys.

[little heron]

thyre not gonna listen

they dont care

[foggy ether]

I care

[ashen mortar]

They really don’t care.

[foggy ether]

I am so confused when I see this. I think this must be a bug because I completed this within 30 min or something it felt like.

I spent my circuit on Jake

Well they have a schedule. Limited time.
Plus, others higher up would like to see things in the game.
And they are aware of player feedback.
I think it’s very stressful and a ton of compromise going on.
Like “we only have enough resources and time to do (—-) what will it be? Oh and we also have to do (——) because WB expects it.” Imagine that. What that must be like. Throw in all the complaints it must be horrible.

I understand, and they should. But only when you have the understanding of the actual human beings with families behind the curtain.
I actually can’t play with my EU friends because of a rematch glitch rn. I get it

[lapis glade]

has anybody else been unable to queue with friends overseas? id love for this issue to get fixed, as its frustrating to be unable to play with friends

[foggy ether]

Yes I just mentioned this and I did yesterday

[lapis glade]

yeah, were able to play rifts but no online

[foggy ether]

For me, I could play with them, even a whole match, but once rematch shows up in 2v2s the game freezes. It gets stuck

It didn’t happen before the recent patch

Hence I wouldn’t be playing with them beforehand

PFG DEVS

I appreciate the attention to detail the art team has done, like the way Lost Jack kicks and punches looks exactly like the show for example.

I actually like everything in the Battlepass except for maybe the gems? I’m really enjoying the scooby doo ring out it’s my favorite.

I’m glad Ranked is here but the RP system does feel unfair.
It feels more like I’m fighting points rather than opponents.
I once lost over -13 from a rank 1 Master as I was a Platinum 1 rank.
You didn’t expect me to win that match did you?

As for nerfs and buffs, I think Samurai Jacks side special can have some end lag on whiff. I love the character and want to main him btw.

Lastly I think investigating hitboxes and hurtboxes of characters would go a long way in terms of fairly nerfing and buffing characters.

Also. It would be great to start knowing when a character will release instead of wondering and wondering. Thanks guys.

[bitter forge]

Please fix your servers

[little heron]

i just had a ffa game where all 4 of us had the afk glitch

bizzarre

[hidden sapphire]

Morty should get close range buffs like jab, side air 2 works, whip and make him lil faster after these dirt can be deleted if they want to

[raw chasm]

Please adjust the nerfs for lebron, he was already a low tier characters before the nerf and now he's mostly unplayable in 1v1

[hidden sapphire]

U mean Morty

[balmy bloom]

Is the queue bugged? I haven't got some stages since like day 1 of season 2, Im always getting the same stages in a row. Haven't seen water tower in agess, and scooby stage

[foggy ether]

Now sorry bro. Morty is chillin rn. He’s top 10 easy

[foggy ether]

I haven’t got water tower. And I think it’s because they heard we don’t like it much lol

[hidden sapphire]

I was joking, but idk man Morty should still get close range buffs so he plays like a bruiser

And maybe more dirt nerfs if they want to

[foggy ether]

He a mage haha

[hidden sapphire]

He is not

[foggy ether]

Morty is this
Dodge
Dirt
Fire
Fire
Dodge
Dirt
Fire

[foggy ether]

I know ha

[hidden sapphire]

Thats why he needs bruiser buffs

[balmy bloom]

I love water tower tho 😭 Im so sick of the current stages I keep getting, even if I didnt get water tower I'd at least want some variety some mixing it up

[urban pasture]

pls bring some ingame friends-only chat function because many good players i added are on console and pc i dont wanna add steam for that so I can never write something like yo I gtg or yo i go afk, sorry i already am in lobby etc.

[foggy ether]

Speak up then because all I hear is everyone hates it.
I personally don’t like the middle platform.

[foggy ether]

That would be such a good feature to have ngl

[balmy bloom]

I haven't rly heard hate for it tho thats the thing

If they took away the middle platform I'd love it more but still I think its pretty cool

[versed otter]

Please PFG/WB think of tweaking ranked:

• No points won/lost if someone disconnects. My teammate disconnected, the match contributed 2v1, I lost the game and RP. My teammate losing RP for disconnecting doesn't change my loss. It's just not fair.

• Create separate queues for premade and pickups, it's much harder to beat a premade as a solo queue. If it's not possible because the player number is too low, adjust the RP gain/loss accordingly, more RP won beating a premade and less of losing to premade as a pickup. Again, you start at disadvantage and it's not taken into consideration.

• You should not be paired with players you blocked. I had a very toxic teammate, I didn't want to play with (or against) him yet blocking didn't prevent rematching him. I know it's ranked but what is the point of blocking players if you are match with and/or against them when they are.

[urban pasture]

the most frustrating part of the ranked system is how bad the matchmaking works. instead of finding a game of random ranks within seconds, why not first try to find people within 30 seconds that are just very close to my rank?

also duo lobbies should have a higher chance to meet other duo lobbies so its more evened out

[near fable]

The circuit event is extremely unfair. I have a boosted variant and only gain 100XP per play and have over 3000XP til the next tier. I've finished all my challenges and have 2 more tiers to finish the event

[olive mesa]

Yeah, devs are off their rocker

[near fable]

I genuinely think this is WB forcing them to make things stupidly priced so they can recuperate costs off of SS:KTJL

[olive mesa]

Yeah, can’t believe they tried to make that game canon to the Arkham games, it just can’t fit with the known dead characters and changes that make no sense

[near fable]

that and having no unique or creative gameplay and then bringing out DLC that ||undoes the main story and ruins the name of the game||

[ashen mortar]

NERF BEYONCE 🗣️

[olive mesa]

Who?

[versed latch]

Iron giant cannot fit under the water tower map and has costed me a lot of games

[keen mountain]

Can you please bring back the daily event missions. They were fun, they gave me something to do and look forward to and helped to finish the event. I do the missions for circuit drones on day 1 and it doesn’t get very far. And I’m disappointed and dissatisfied that I can’t finish the event

[north rune]

Yeah they dont care, its woven to much into the game to get rid of and too big and doofy to balance correctly

[gritty cipher]

well i did all the dailys and weekly as well as all the event quests and im barely halfway to the second checkpoint

[signal summit]

Best of 3 WITHOUT AN OPTION is the WORST thing that has been done in the production of this game, if my partner sucks balls i dont want to play again. BAD

let me lose once with a partner who cant get 100 dmg once not over and over again

[copper veldt]

Old multiversus was a much better...

[lofty beacon]

What’s the point of a dodge when I can’t punish someone on whiff?

Just implement a block at this point if they wanna make moves unpunishable

[sturdy dagger]

Superman's horizontal air grab should end at his chest, I'm sick of getting gripped by Superdudes butt cheeks.

[lusty condor]

The new events are more confusing and less rewarding. Just give us all the missions at once, or keep adding to them everyday. I'm still stuck on my first or second set because I'm pretty sure you purposely removed the Bat Cave from rotation, because I literally haven't gotten it once in days

[warm schooner]

Please do something about Superman’s kit.

It’s underwhelming

[scarlet shore]

By hard read i believe you mean nearly impossible reads character hes just too slow to actually catch someone who is mashing dodge sometimes i can hit them other times they hit me while im swinging because jasons limbs still have hurtboxes on all of his attacks which is just plain stupid

Also did yall see voids new tier list its dumb absolutely dumb i think hes smoking crack

Tom being b tier might be one of the biggest public fits of copium ive ever seen

Saying tom is 1 character away from being as bad as jason is actually braindead

[warm schooner]

This is Superman

[scarlet shore]

And putting lebron in c tier below jason and garnet is dumb af

[warm schooner]

Really good games or bad depending on who I’m fighting

[scarlet shore]

Idk bout that one chief u at least have some spacing options

[warm schooner]

Do you play Superman?

[scarlet shore]

Jasons best spacing option is to dodge away which he cant because he barely moves with his dodge

[warm schooner]

Not being facetious

[scarlet shore]

I used to all throughout the beta

[scarlet shore]

Thats not a word bucko

[warm schooner]

He’s not the same Superman

[warm schooner]

adjective
treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant.

[scarlet shore]

No but ive tried him during the release he wasnt holy bad or anything just middle of the road and he still has grab jank especially with air walker ur just not playing him with all his strengths

[scarlet shore]

Then that word doesnt apply here at all

[warm schooner]

His up air special is glitched

[scarlet shore]

I was more talking about his air side special

Didnt know his up air special was glitched it works when people use it on me

[lusty sparrow]

if you mean the play on batcave mission. you can just go to a rift level with batcave and it counts

[warm schooner]

His side special is fine.

[scarlet shore]

Id argue its better than fine

If u dont have a good projectile nothing counters it

[warm schooner]

I thought you would perceived my question as sarcasm. Hence my use of the word

It that’s not important

[scarlet shore]

Well i dont

[warm schooner]

Exactly 👍🏾 so we’re good

[scarlet shore]

I take all these things seriously because you could always be picking my main who is the worst idc what void is smoking

[warm schooner]

They’re all smoking

Who is your main? Jason?

They’re nerfing all the wrong guys

[scarlet shore]

Yeah i main jason who is the worst character

U can argue velmas worse but personally i dont believe that

Given how reliant jason is on armor any character is better than jason whether they have big armor break moves like marvin or they use armor break perks anyone can beat jason because his size and hit and hurtboxes are too exploitable and his armor sucks

[warm schooner]

Yeah Jason needs work

He’s my second

His down special recovery is so bad lol

[split robin]

Something weird happening with Jason. I go to Dodge Away from my opponent and it dodges Toward them. Can’t we fix?

[patent halo]

I'm always scared of learning a new character because the nerf gun is crazy in this game. I'm afraid of playing tbh

[split robin]

Play Shaggy, Finn, or the Clowns. They’re the only ones immune to the Nerf Hammer 🤷🏻‍♂️

Harley’s slide needs to go about 1/2-3/4 it’s current distance to bring it in line with the other strong slides. OR it needs longer end lag AND a bigger hit box so we can better punish it. She recovers so fast even on a whiff Jason struggles to punish her.

[low patio]

Jason Voorhees announced pack would go kinda hard ngl

[patent halo]

i played effing garnet and they nerfed her combo routes

i thought i would be fine and i'm sad af

[olive mesa]

Scotsman announced pack would be wild

[red folio]

He's never coming

[hidden sapphire]

Morty should get close range buffs like jab, side air 2 works, whip and make him lil faster after these dirt can be deleted if they want to

[lusty sparrow]

if its just horror stingers and strings and no voice lines. might be a cool dynamic option

[low patio]

Or just no noise at all

No voice, no sounds

Would be kinda funny ngl

[lusty sparrow]

i thought they had a no announcer option

[sturdy dagger]

Can the daily Gem rewards not be literally useless

[hidden sapphire]

Isnt he going to be like a different character

Not just a skin

[autumn estuary]

fern should find love and happiness in multiversus canon he deserves it

when will you let your rift writers go hog wild and crackship everything tony

smith/bmo do it

make people want to go through the rifts once just to see what these unhinged lunatics are cooking in the dialogue

you can't deny fern stark goes hard

[wary wind]

The Batman Who Laugh’s subtitles does not match with his gameplay voicelines. I’m not sure if it’s the same with his announcer lines though. Hoping for someone to confirm this.

[autumn estuary]

everything about that skin's voicelines has been broken since release

taz/harley is OUT jason/harley is IN

[wary wind]

Really? Shame hope they fix that though. Craig’s voice is so great

[slow oracle]

Buff banana guard ‼️‼️‼️

[thorny thicket]

Yall ruined rank with this forced 2/3

[fleet garnet]

do you play random 2v2s? That is where it feels pretty bad imo

[alpine sparrow]

Dodges should keep a time based timer if not dodging a move but the timers issue is when your dodging per say iron giants helicopter leg attack because even if you time it perfect you still get hit so basically dodge is useless. A way to fix this is to make the invincibility extend to the end of the singular move dodged even if in 2v2 their team member can hit you after the standard dodge timer it would add skill to the game and not make it a competition of who has the longest acting moves

[stone ermine]

So yeah when youre going to make joker a low tier

[zealous lion]

I said this again and I will repeat myself about the current way events are handled : It is ok to make events require XP from fights. It is also ok to make certain skins to give double xp for the event. But it is not ok that the only skins that give double xp are the event ones. It makes no sense that to finish the event to get the skin you require the skin the event gives. Other types of skins related to the event (like the matrix skins for the technological themed events) should also give extra xp

[prime magnet]

L

[olive mesa]

Just got to Silver 2, should be in gold but you know, server garbage

[prime magnet]

Is Finn slower? Jake too? Feels like both gotten slower but I might be wrong. Feels weird playing them after playing other characters

[scenic isle]

They should give one free skin in the beggining. And one free at the end

[tough wren]

why don't you guys like forced BO3s?

BO1s is so gimmicky

[olive mesa]

The servers can barely handle one game without void walking or some other garbage, what makes you think 2-3 games is better?

[scenic isle]

The duo who lost should have right to say no to a rematch if they feel like they're just alot worse

[tough wren]

The Servers Hopefully can get better with time but even then i prefer a BO3 since the better player usually wins in a BO3 ignoring any server issues

[zealous lion]

Ideally, yes. Then you could reach the first skin with the missions and use said skin for the event. But I understand that they would not want to giveaway too much free stuff, so using other skins or characters, as both Samurai Jack and Rick & Morty are shows about technological stuff, would be a more plausible way to deal with this problem

[scenic isle]

To be fair they give alot more free Gleamium than people admit. I don't see any problem with the way they do events since I conplete then really quick. Seems like other players don't recieve the same quests. Or they just loose alot and recieve less xp

[olive mesa]

Gold and up get free skins that you can’t get anywhere else so unless they can fix the issues in less than 45 days, the players who do have the skill to get at least 2-3 of the skins are being funked over by the server’s connection problems

[scenic isle]

I can be winning in ranked 1v1s and then my character jumps of the stage and I loose 35rp

[little heron]

therye so dumb

no reson to make it like that

[tough wren]

does anyone know if the servers are Peer 2 Peer or Rollback?

[little heron]

i hope people at PFG get fired

they suck

[hidden sapphire]

Morty should get close range buffs like jab, side air 2 works, whip and make him lil faster after these dirt can be deleted if they want to

[tough wren]

servers being this bad really baffles me

[little heron]

had a year to fix it

it was decent at first and it kept getting worse

[olive mesa]

It uses rollback from what I can find. Quote from Inuakurei on steam, “Multiversus uses rollback netcode as opposed to delay based. Rollback means that the game tries to "predict" what will happen based on recent actions, and "rollsback" the action if it predicted wrong, aiming to keep the game state in sync for all players.”

[tough wren]

most if not all new fighting games released in the last 2 - 3 years all have good online

[little heron]

itsa always 1 step foward 1 back

[tough wren]

seems like a very unrefined version of rollback

[olive mesa]

Here is the link from that quote https://steamcommunity.com/app/1818750/discussions/0/4346617847739173106/#:~:text=Multiversus uses rollback netcode as,in sync for all players.

[tough wren]

i've never encountered so many desyncs compared to other FGs

[olive mesa]

Yeah, sometimes the system doesn’t classify it as a desync and it punishes the player when it does that

[mossy hill]

guys

whats the logic on lebron tackle make you fly upward

not sideways lol

[tough wren]

@mossy hill Lebron sucks runnn

[little heron]

bascketball is verticle i guess

[mossy hill]

just face a lebron ugh

my game somehow DELAYED LIKE 0.3 SEC

[tough wren]

also the balance team has never played another platform fighter it feels

[mossy hill]

but he hit with a tackle

and it flew me up

[tough wren]

so many illogical balance changes

[olive mesa]

I don’t know, promotional fighters are dumb. Have you seen Black Adam players play, incredible the amount of obnoxiousness they can display

[tough wren]

@mossy hill the move is pretty bad and only really kills light characters at reasonable percents

[little heron]

adam getting in before shazam is shameful

[olive mesa]

Him and LeBron were only added as promotion for the movies they were in. Black Adam and Space Jam: A New Legacy

[tough wren]

for some reason they focus on getting side characters instead of the main protags

[mossy hill]

yeah i already flew almost got killed on top blast within 37% lol

its a kill with 70%

also his ball edge guard is too strong too

he can just punished people that trying get on the wall

[tough wren]

did he hit you at the top of the screen and were you playing?

[little heron]

29 lost in one game

29 rp

fk you devs

fk you

[olive mesa]

I just say funk

[little heron]

i've been wanting to say way worst

server wont allow it

[olive mesa]

But yeah, the devs REALLY need to study good ranked systems

[tough wren]

once your in gold you lose/gain a lot less rp

[little heron]

i am in gold

gold v

[olive mesa]

I’m at Silver 2 with BG, would be higher but half of my loses were from the server not working right

[little heron]

SAME

[tough wren]

must be the higher gold divisions cause at gold 3/2 i was only gaining/losing 8 - 10 rp

[mossy hill]

nope he was hitting me with combo on the platform

and im using velma lol

and FINALLY HIT DIAMOND

ugh

[tough wren]

tbh i think velma wins that MU

[mossy hill]

nope

wdym velma can win the MU

if my game 0.3 sec delayed

and velma move slow AF

[tough wren]

Lebron is so bad

[mossy hill]

velma is worst lol

trust me

her projectiles barely usable

barely...

[tough wren]

i know she is worst but lebron sucks against zoners

[mossy hill]

while her mele slow as well

[mossy hill]

but she is the worst zoner lol

@tough wren again lebron i just faced able comboed me off with my game has 0.3 sec delayed for no reason CUZ THE NET CODE

[narrow flame]

@lucid bolt Game has hella problems with Hitboxes. Jason has a hurtbox & attack consistency problem. Reindog has a low profile problem. I won't list all the nuanced attacks with issues for every character as I'm sure you're aware, just know this game is on life support. Your rank RP is driving people away along with the really, really bad balance. You guys didn't even standardize core mechanics like dodge range. You small brained humans put way too many large and lingering attacks in a game that has no shield button, and the only resource to deal with them is limited by meter. I hope you all get your stuff together, it's okay to copy other successful platform fighters a little bit. There's a reason they haven't died twice and lasted more than a year. NAKAT not even streaming MVS

[little heron]

my game just froze up mid comp match

its stuck on "next game starting in 0s"

i think i'm screwed

had to alt f4

[rotund plover]

Why do i lose 21 points as a solo player against a party of 2 coordinated people playing the same perks to have double effect ??? and 99% they are on voice chat too.... you just cant can you. 2h wasted just because i face higher rank + premade party and one was a diamond and a top 60 player while im platinum + another random dude on internet. You are so bad at making ranked tbh. is just logic

[narrow flame]

They obvious don't play their own game online, they only play locally in their Silver-level circle

[rotund plover]

bro im a casual too, usually i dont play fighting games if not when they have some big release like tekke 8, sf6 but im gone in a couple of weeks and for sure i dont play ranked. But, MVS is the only game i have to play because you can do so many thinks in the fight and express creativity.... why can i see this bad implamentation of the ranked points and they cant.... is just logic

[stone ermine]

the devs need to study good games

[pure silo]

2 days, still no BO3 ranked removed

[olive mesa]

If they didn't make it mandatory then it probably would've been received better

[pure silo]

i dont know any game outside of playing tourneys where you have to best of 3 and cant pick another char after being countered by the opponents pick or in general

[sleek sequoia]

winning several games in a row and losing all of your gained rp from 1 loss will not keep your player retention numbers up btw 😍

[pure silo]

i would rather wait 1 month for changes but know whats up and get information from the team that they are working on fixing issues than get fixes every 2 weeks but live on hopes and prayers

[bleak mauve]

idk who thought forced was a good idea

[pure silo]

the worst thing is to not know if the problems you have are even talked about and about to change

[slender bear]

why is marvin an assain and not a mage

[pure silo]

you guys really need to do polls before implementing stuff like this where you force people into stuff. Would there be a BO3 in ranked if there was a poll before with 80 percent saying they dont want that? probably not

its literally less work and more trust from the community.

[scarlet shore]

So made it to diamond 5 as jason lost 1 match and instead of risking losing diamond 5 im choosing not to play jason anymore because thats what these morons at pfg want

[vivid quest]

Yeah this game needs to start community polling for big changes. They have to do so many things twice when they could just ask and do something right the first time

[scarlet shore]

Ikr

For example making rp loss and win and loss the same thing

[pure silo]

"customer is king" but king gets ignored?

[scarlet shore]

Lets say win u get 30 rp lose you lose 30rp

[narrow flame]

I'm convinced PFG does now play they're own rank, because they'd realize how unfair and subjective it is. The RP system is based on your perceived MMR, so our wins are not objectively weighed (i.e. we all get 15 points for a win), it's very subjectively weighed (i.e I get 20 points per win while you get 10 points, even though we're both the same rank). That's inherently biased and rank is suppose to be as fair as possible.

This leads to problems like Master rank players getting +20 from beating Gold players (I've seen it), when instead everyone should be fighting around they're same rank. That promotes farming on one end, and a ridiculously hard climb on the other.

@lucid bolt Please take a page out of Tekken 8 rank system. That's probably the most objective rank system I've encountered in my 20 yrs of fighting games. Just keep win/loss gain stagnant, have people fight the same rank, and all the players that should be at the top, will be at the top naturally.

[prisma tapir]

Ugh, I just want to be able to want to play this game for more than 20 minute without feeling like it's not worth my time. Attacks priorities are whack, lag is still present and it manifests in moves appearing to hit but aren't and character dodging stuff when they are in the middle of an attack animation, no IG cyber skin even though that would be cool AF, nerfs and buffs aren't thought through which leads clearly advantaged characters to run rampant in matches. The friend system is buggy and incomplete at best, still can't reliably accept any invite from a friend. The missions won't refresh when they say they will. The rifts are boring and just serve as a way to complete missions fast. FFA mode is constantly pushed to keep it alive. Armor is inconsistent on when it works and the armor preventing perk doesn't seem to work at all. The store doesn't have the ability to view the full catalog of stuff to buy. You have to dive into submenus to find the other stuff you can buy. I.e. character menus to buy skins. The hurtboxes and hit boxes are all over the place especially during the heat of battle. Increased cpu and GPU cost causes more and more misalignment which is eggareated by thr network lag.

More to come...

[scarlet shore]

U r spitting nothing but facts

[narrow flame]

I'm also a D5 Jason, got it last week, bouncing between mid D5 and High P1 because my "perceived MMR" says I belong there, even though I have kept playing and never stayed out of D5. But because the game is subjectively judging my skill level, it decides that my losses weigh much more than my wins, which rank is suppose to be the most objective rank mode. So I'm currently in a loop where I win 3, lose 1, progress erased because my losses are worth 3x more than my wins. I'm not allowed to slip once in this system, I should've been in Masters or close to it

[warm schooner]

Your game is cheeks

[scarlet shore]

First tike i hit diamond 5 wit jason i lost 50rp

[warm schooner]

F Superman is his t-Rex jabs

[autumn estuary]

arya interaction with fern: "Incompetent, pathetic grass boy... I must train him. Begin."

[warm schooner]

Character models touching and still whiffing

[narrow flame]

Dude that's INSANE! What fighting game "rank" does that but not allow you to win +50 back?

[amber holly]

anyone else not getting The Circuit Drones missions? mine never refreshed.

[warm schooner]

Lost 25 points to a player that out ranked me in platinum

[amber holly]

and theres only 2 and a half days left

[sonic folio]

apparently they dont refresh

[scarlet shore]

Ur tellin me i went on a winning streak lost 1 set and 50 rp lost again lost halfway to plat 2 only just got back to diamond 5 2 days later and i aint playin jason no more because i lost one match in diamond 5

[amber holly]

what

[scarlet shore]

Why should i play jason again i win 9 rp per match and lose 4x

[narrow flame]

@scarlet shore I'm hovering in D5 literally because the game itself is keeping me there. Objectively I have a 65% winrate at the lowest, if the points where objective and standard I'd have been past D5. In no fighting game would a 65%+ winrate have you STUCK in a rank! Only reason for it is because the RP system is arbitrary and subjective, so the GAME deems my losses 3x more than my wins! FOR WHAT!

[sonic folio]

its just a bunch of missions the first day, then you just gotta finish the event with pvp matches, wich honestly is an awful idea

[pure silo]

i think they are too cool to even communicate with us. its so hard, they dont have time to write 1 message

[sharp fjord]

not touching this game again until they find a way to make ranked less miserable and unrewarding

[amber holly]

hella dumb since theres a damn timer there. This game is just poorly made

[narrow flame]

Wow. I remember you were the optimistic one. If PFG are even upsetting their cheerleaders that's not a good sign

[sonic folio]

from what i remember my missions only filled the first part of it, now im forced to complete it with HUNDREDS of fights to just get 1 tiny free thing, they had a good idea with letting us choose our reward but its honestly useless if we cant event get the reward

[scarlet shore]

Exactly

U see this community isn't stupid all the time for once yall see what im sayin

For what purpose would i have to play ranked if no matter if i have a good win rate ill never win enough to counter act the losses

I mean ffs even clash royale knows how to do ranked better than pfg at this point

[sleek sequoia]

just had all my progress today reset because I had the nerve to lose 1 set

honestly my fault

[scarlet shore]

I KNOW RIGHT ITS SO STUPID XD

[scarlet shore]

And good for u on the win rate being that high i keep encountering characters that demolish jason still have a positive win rate tho so yeah ur spitting facts

[pure silo]

+8 then +9 for winning game before got -23 ?

[scarlet shore]

Yeap

Its pure bs

[narrow flame]

I'm just gonna ignore this rank season ever happen. Hopefully we'll look back a year from now once we have great rank and great balance, and look at season 2 as the Dark Age. If anyone flex their S2 rank but cant replicate that success once rank is fixed then they were carried by the system

[scarlet shore]

What place is ur jason in grappler just curious

[scarlet shore]

Or they campy top tiers who refuse to play

[narrow flame]

#30, was close to #20 but I barely lost a set and got hit with the -26 so yeah my fault

[scarlet shore]

I peaked at 20th place earlier in the season then jason mains started getting good so trying to catch up aint happening anytime soon lol

Idk how burgerman made it to masters but good on him

[narrow flame]

If you get D4 you'd be #20 Jason. That's how HARD we are struggling in the system! We are drowning in D5!!! @scarlet shore

[scarlet shore]

Exactly

[foggy ether]

That’s a bug because my event meter shot up so fast. It wasn’t something that took me days to do. It was one day, like 30 min max
So that gotta be unintentional

[sleek sequoia]

you know how bad it has to be when fighting game players are complaining about the rank system when they lose instead of the balance of the characters they play against lmao

[foggy ether]

Yo you play 2v2? I’d run that with you

I’m a Diamond 3

[scarlet shore]

I think its because this games balance is like the kilogram of feathers and kilogram of steel analysis to these devs

[scarlet shore]

Bet u on rn

[narrow flame]

Most of the people in Masters did so because they may not have a job, also that was back when rank rank BO1.

That's another thing:

With a system change this big, they should have waited til next season or reset the leaderboards, because people got their ranks before the system change and that's NOT fair

@scarlet shore

[scarlet shore]

True

[foggy ether]

Not at moment but I’m free today. Hol up

[scarlet shore]

Lmk imma do my 3 ffa games missions rq

[pure silo]

Ok im also part of the "not playing the game until they remove BO3"

im trying to enjoy it a bit, but you guys ruined the game for me. Ranked was really fun with no unnecessary forced BO3s

[sturdy dagger]

Inb4 considering not playing ranked 🫠.

[pure silo]

i tried casual but i only get noobs and its not fun

[narrow flame]

They should wait to add BO3 to next season OR reset the ranks and leaderboards because it's literally a different system!

[tough wren]

WHO IS BALANCING THIS GAME

LIKJE WHY DOES LEBRON NOPT HAVE ARMOR ON DUNK

[scarlet shore]

Jar jar

[sharp fjord]

nobody, that's part of the issue

[narrow flame]

Grumpy has switched sides lol

[scarlet shore]

I feel like nobody is better than jar jar

[sharp fjord]

I tried to be hopeful, I really did

but I can't stand the state of the game

[compact viper]

Please remove forced rematch in ranked, i don't wanna be stuck repeating a match with a passive yet awful teammate, at this point i rather quit before the second match.

[narrow flame]

@lucid bolt How the heck did y'all manage to cause Grumpy to become negative 😆

[sturdy dagger]

Bo3 is essentially standard decorum in ranked. Though to be fair other games do let you leave.

[sleek sequoia]

crazy how I just lost 22 points bc my teammate immediately disconnects

actually ridiculous lmao

[narrow flame]

Exactly. Tekken, SF, etc let you leave

[dense nymph]

Bro y’all gotta fix the game legit making u walk off stage idk how many times I’ve lost ranked games SOLEY BC of the game making me walk off and also bo3 imo is horrible lol I don’t wanna have to play the same dude that’s playing annoying 2-3 times to get what 40 rp it should be an option

[sturdy dagger]

Still annoying that folk will deny a second round if they fear they'd derank tho 😩

[scarlet shore]

Dont play with randoms

Before u say ur friends say this game is trash

I know

[compact viper]

i'm not gonna go around looking for teammates i just enjoy 2's had no issues before this just a simple move on to the next match but being forced to play a second match is just terrible.

[scarlet shore]

Find people to play with here yk

[narrow flame]

Im ngl Id legit deny 3-5 characters as Jason 😆

[compact viper]

none of my friends have said this game is trash, they just play what they like assuming things about people shows your level of maturity i won't lie i don't say that as an insult, but you shouldn't assume things.

[compact viper]

look man, this is a me issue, but i don't like adding random people i know nothing about.

[sturdy dagger]

Friend a prior random teammate that isn't negligent.

[scarlet shore]

My list is as follows lmao (arya, batman, black adam, finn, harley, jake, lebron, marvin, morty, reindog, jack, shaggy, superman, joker, tom, ww)

[scarlet shore]

I assume based on experience my guy and most of my friends gave up and said that

The other half have jobs and only play customs

[sturdy dagger]

Omfg that's like half the roster

👀
👄

[compact viper]

yes but keep in mind, not everyone is the same or has similar friends, it's just looks crappy to assume things about people.

[scarlet shore]

And all of them directly counter jason lol

[scarlet shore]

Ok and that was my apology so r u gonna get over it or?

[compact viper]

dude i stopped thinking about it till you just now replied lol.

[scarlet shore]

Ok cool then

Anyways yeah not a big fan of bo3

Lmao was playing jason in casual and this joker starts by salt emoting and he got immediately 0 to deathed for whiffing cane spin on my armor

Then i took another stock and all of a sudden he quits the gamr

[narrow flame]

Arya - Better framedata
Black Adam - Id beat because they suck
Finn - Out ranges me
Harley - Better framedata
Jake - Just Bite
LeBron - Manageable
Marvin - Literally Satan
Morty - Literally Lucifer
Reindog - Most Underrated character. Low profiling demon
Jack - Jab
Shaggy - Better Framedata
Superman - Id Win because they suck
Joker - Autopilot character
Tom - Id win
WW - You but better
@scarlet shore

[scarlet shore]

Game*

Like literally hard quits the game shuts down entirely

[violet condor]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FIX MORTY'S HITBOXES 50% OF MY ATTACKS PHASE THROUGH

[scarlet shore]

Tbh most of the characters i chose have armor break moves that demolish jasons entire neutral or they can outcamp me faster than i can approach

[narrow flame]

I use armor every chance I get just to limit their move set so I can bait out moves. Because of that, I only use the quick armor (10 health) so I also don't take too much DMG. It's been working wonders. Once you stop thinking of it as actual armor and think of it as a moveset limiter/move baiter then it does it's job.

Unless it's Arya...
Or Joker...
Or Marvin...

[tough wren]

WHAT IS NAKATS PURPOSE

LIKE KHOW CAN THE BALANCEIONGN BE SOOOOOOOOOOOO BADDDDDD

[narrow flame]

LMAO fr. Dude can't even help his old main (Jason) like what is he really good for?

[scarlet shore]

Yeah some armor break moves are easy to bait with a dair but then theres black adam electro ball n clap

[narrow flame]

Black Adam is just a character you need reps against. His Aerials are very reactable, I rarely get clapped or Down Aired @scarlet shore

[tough wren]

THIS GAME IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD

IM SO CONFIDENT HE IS JUST YES MAN AT THIS POINT

BECAUSE NO WAY SOMEONE CAME ACROSS HIM AND HE APPROVED LEVRON GETTING NERFED

[scarlet shore]

His dair is not that good clap is too big and his neutral special is heavily spammable against jason on ledge leading to impossible to win situations

[tough wren]

EVERY SLIDE NEEDES THEIR HURT BOX ADJUSTED

[narrow flame]

That's pretty obvious at this point. He probably tried to get Jason buffs, PFG said no, NAKAT said okay daddy, and picked tippy top tiers like Arya & WW and never talked about Jason again. He got bent

[tough wren]

BURNOUT NEEDS TO BE EITHER REMOVED OR INCREASE THE DODGE BAR

THEY GUTTED SO MANY COMBO ROUTES THAT KYOU REQUIRE DODGE FOR A LOT OF COMBOS and YOU NBEED FOR MOVEMENT AS WELL

[narrow flame]

Gotta react to the ball of ledge with dodge, it's one Hitbox so once you dodge it cannot hit you, allowing you one of easiest whiff punishes in the game

But you need to be reactive

[tough wren]

Black Adam has Slow and Stubby Normals aside from clap

very easy to out footsie him

[narrow flame]

Jason is extremely reaction based in this game. You can't flow chart or turn your brain off like most characters can, because no follow ups are guaranteed

[tough wren]

cause you die if you mess @narrow flame LMAO

mees up

idk how anyone has the mental to play these trash characters

[sturdy dagger]

Jason just needs a smaller hurt box.

[tough wren]

the risk to reward is so skewed against them

[narrow flame]

Reactionary and Read based. Jason is probably one of the hardest characters in the game to play at a high level consistently because you REALLY need to be locked in

[tough wren]

and they don't excel at anything meaningful

[narrow flame]

Mentally taxing

[tough wren]

Playing Lebron has mentally broke me

[scarlet shore]

Wish the game agreed with ur logic

[narrow flame]

@tough wren been playing Low tiers for 20 yrs lol. Ganondorf in Melee, Gigas in T7, etc

[tough wren]

he has the worse jab in any platform fighter i've played

[narrow flame]

Yeah these servers can definitely be ass

[scarlet shore]

Ive resorted to using airwalker and its honestly great for getting off ledge and cheesing morons

[tough wren]

i like playing low tiers if they have some worthwhile buttons/gimmick

but imo Jason nor Lebron have it

[scarlet shore]

Ganon is mid tier in melee

His nair is funny in melee tho ngl

[tough wren]

You'd think a fighter with trash neutral trash punish game trash footsies trash disadvantage meh advantage state that he'd atleast have a good combo game

NOPE

[sturdy dagger]

I like Marvin. a hate that he's a super awkward pseudo projectile guy, whose main gimmick is broken by how MVS do dodges. I play him over other assassins because I like Marvin.

[tough wren]

THEY TOOK THAT AWAY TOO

LMAO

[narrow flame]

That's probably why I had so much fun with him lol.

[tough wren]

why did they decide to not have traditional buttons like smash

some characters only have one consistent combo starter

characters in smash have way more

[scarlet shore]

More open to casuals

[tough wren]

LMAO

[scarlet shore]

With the lowest skill ceiling possible for some characters like joker

[tough wren]

SMASH IS AS OPEN TO CASUALS AS IT GETS

dude

[sturdy dagger]

Special moves on the normal button, some characters straight up missing charge attacks.... lots of why but, yeah know I have fun with it.

[narrow flame]

Smash is just better, but it's had time to work out it's kinks. They basically did the homework for the entire genre, so MVS trying to reinvent the wheel is silly. It's okay to copy homework off the Valedictorian, at least a little bit

[tough wren]

who finds smash hard

[scarlet shore]

U have to admit with smash there are some things casuals find hard its not quite rivals hard but smash is hard to understand for some people ik it sounds weird man but its true apparently

Like jumping and dodging to instantly land on a platform while actionable in smash

Thats hard for casuals and it doesnt exist in this game

[sturdy dagger]

Those problem follow through to MVS too though, even more so because the controls are not universal.

[scarlet shore]

Thats why they chose the ever evolving roster eventually everyone will have a character they understand like the back of their hand from the get go and they will continue to evolve the meta with that character

U think i play jason because i wanted him

[narrow flame]

@scarlet shore this game has movement options, it's just tied to resources... Very limited resources... It's stupid. They made the game slow arbitrarily

[scarlet shore]

I play him because he has the coolest moveset in the game

Im not defending this game

Im defending smash at this point lmao

[tough wren]

the MVS team seems confused on how they want this game to play and don't know how they want there combo system to work

Like some Dashj attacks are so garbnage

garbage*

[scarlet shore]

Jasons projectile killing property on his dash attack doesnt work half the time

[little heron]

thanks for putting me back in silver PFG

[tough wren]

its like what was the point in adding them

[little heron]

love your netcode messing my rnak up ocnstantyl

good game

great tema

[tough wren]

all dash attacks should allow dash out of them on hit

also this whole floaty attacks need to be removed

[narrow flame]

@tough wren dude they cant even do something as simple as standardize DODGE DISTANCE 😂

[tough wren]

you should be able to cancel a aerials animation when fast falling into the ground

[scarlet shore]

Thats the part thats undeniably bs

Also please remove the court 2 from the game entirely

[tough wren]

it should not be character dependent it should def be universal

[sturdy dagger]

It's because F2P. Let's be honest. I don't think the game is bad but it is riddled with weirdness.

Number one of which is that controls are inconsistent. Ie: Why is Marvin's neutral normal a special move, instead of a charge.

[tough wren]

why can't lebron charge his sair

he only has one or two charge moves

[inner trout]

Ban New Characters from Ranked till balanced.

[scarlet shore]

They think jack is balanced

[tough wren]

i don't think jack is broken anymore

[scarlet shore]

I do

[tough wren]

esp compared to the real top tiers

[scarlet shore]

True

[tough wren]

he has weaknesses you can exploit way easier

[scarlet shore]

But i think hes prolly in s tier at least

[tough wren]

then compared to Arya

Joker

Batman

WW

[scarlet shore]

Well yeah

Exactly

I think they all need nerfs

[tough wren]

other the side special what else is broken

[inner trout]

In 2v2 hes hell

[scarlet shore]

His forward combo is too fast on whiff

[sturdy dagger]

He has the "I can keep doing stuff on whiff" thing that the Top tiers generally seem to have.

[tough wren]

i don't play 2v2 so rip

[scarlet shore]

His up air is literally faster than meta knight

[tough wren]

2v2 is so mickey mosue idk how anyone enjoys playing it

[scarlet shore]

Essentially yeah

[tough wren]

@scarlet shore but the hitbos is not good

hitbox

[scarlet shore]

R u kidding me

Ur joshin me right

[tough wren]

very linear imo

[scarlet shore]

Ive been hit by jack from miles away and even when im behind him

[tough wren]

and not as disjointed as other U-Airs

you think its a top 10 Up-Air in the game?

[scarlet shore]

Yes

Quite

Maybe top 5

I think the best one has to be jokers

But jack is up there for sure

Marvin is prolly up there

Lebrons is big and strong but not quite as good

[tough wren]

jack does not have a top 5 UP Air aint no way

[scarlet shore]

Morty is just a better version of lebrons

Toms jokers stevens mortys those are the only ones i think are better

[stuck sable]

I HATE THIS AWFUL REMATCH SYSTEM
THIS IS CRAP. YOU ARE CRAP, WHY DID YOU MAKE THIS GAME CRAP

I am sick of this crap. From now on I'm just going to restart the game after each loss so I don't have to keep playing unfair mathups.

[gritty zephyr]

Note that I play 1v1 when it comes to Ranked Mode.

I do not understand how Ranked Mode's scoring works. I once managed to gain 40 points from winning twice in one match without having the opponent win, but when I did the same thing again, I only got 20 points. I even lost 26 points once for instead losing twice in one match without a victory.

I do not know why the score penalty for losing can go above 50% of the lowest score reward for winning, such as losing 16 points once, then earning 20 points. Such high penalties are unfair to struggling players, especially to the players struggling against players that exploit overpowered strategies.

[inner trout]

Joker should not be able to combo 0-60 with no skill

[autumn estuary]

everyone needs voicelines being nice or at least encouraging to fern so i tilt less

[stuck sable]

I am sick of this game. Whoever thought we should have MMR based matchmaking at bronze levels rather than meeting OTHER BRONZE PLAYERS LIKE LITERALLY EVERY OTHER RANKED SYSTEM IN EXISTENCE is an absolute underdeveloped ratbrain

[pure silo]

yes it should, for the same reason why parkspots for disabled people are bigger

[frozen turret]

pls nerf this samurai or i will delete this game, every rank up is this f* champion that needs 0 Skill....

[olive mesa]

Yeah, Jack is annoying and has too much attack range

[grizzled bane]

How you should buff Jason Voorhees without making him broken:

• Fixing his passive. Currently, his passive states "Jason cannot take knockback while he has GRAY HEALTH". There are two things wrong with his passive that should be addressed. 1) This passive ONLY applies to his neutral special's gray health. Make it so it will apply with ANY instance of additional gray health. 2) The passive is deceptive. It grants Jason armor instead, rather than just making it so he takes no knockback. This makes it so character can just use armor break moves and armor break perks to just go up and attack Jason with an extra 10 to 15 damage depending on how much Jason charged his neutral special. If you made it so the passive actually grants no knockback instead of armor, that would honestly be the best buff if you were to pick any of these. If not... please adjust the passive text to read "Jason gains armor while he has GRAY HEALTH" so it's not as deceptive.

• Jason's hurtboxes are huge, which is expected of a big character like him, but some of his hurtboxes are actually bigger than him. That can make it so people can attack his weapons when he has them streched out to attack, and Jason would get hit for it instead, trading moves when the attack the opponent threw out shouldn't have connected. If you aren't planning to adjust his hurtboxes (or are waiting until you tweaked everyone's hurtboxes/hitboxes), I suggest looking into intangebility frames on his arms for moves that use his Machete and Axe.

• As a heavy, Jason suprisingly only has one source of armor (which shouldn't even be classified as armor technically, given my first point). If you were to give some moves armor (Up Attack and Neutral Attack especially), that would help put him in line with other heavys like Superman and Wonder Woman.

• The nerf to his Jab 1 was... pretty unnecessary to say the least, especially with characters like Joker, Finn, and Wonder Woman (seriously, there was a tournamet not too long ago where like 8 of the 10 teams had a Wonder Woman in top 10). Reverting his Jab 1 would be really appreciated.

That's all I have to reccomend. Any additional buffs that I haven't said would be happily accepted as well, though I do understand you're trying not to make him broken, even if he is currently a bottom 5 character on many tier lists.

Posting this again in hopes they'll see this (plus an updated point with the unnecessary nerf to Jab 1)

[foggy ether]

Just gotta let you know, Jack vs Jason is probably one of the worst matchups in game for Jason

[sharp fjord]

for everyone I'd say --'

fk jack

[grizzled bane]

Then you remember Marvin exists

[steep bronze]

Jack is broken still

The ranked system is the worst I’ve ever seen

It’s too easy to get matched up against layers not on your skill level

[foggy ether]

He’s a Hell Lord lol 😂 a nightmare for Jason.
In 2v2 it’s so chaotic vs him.

[foggy ether]

Honestly all he needs is a nerf to side b, more end lag on whiff.
He’s not as good as the top tiers

[zealous nebula]

GET YoUR GAME RIGHT FREEZES EVERY COUPLE OF MATCHES

[foggy ether]

Ranked computer system is too optimistic.

It expects me to win even against a Master 1 ranked player because when I lose I get -14.

[zealous nebula]

WTF is this bullcrap , i can't even play couple of mathches and it freezes for agesz

the only thing we can do is ALT F4 in ranked games comon wtf

[delicate kelp]

yo theres a bug if you hit jason with a grounded airgrab as agent smith it doesnt him send him anywhere when it launches

[stone ermine]

ok i fought a bugs
and yeah he needs some nerfs
specially with hole
a rocket looping for 8 times?
thats wrong?

[zealous nebula]

FIX YOUR GAME !!!!!!

ppl cant even play together causqe the whole stupid game freezes every ranked game

[knotty tiger]

If before I claimed that the ranked points system was impossible to r rank up from diamond V, now with games of better than 3 it is even worse
you had a problem and they made it worse.

[hazy plaza]

Ranked needs to show more stats like damage taken, deaths in 2s, and not count watermelon steven or velma's van as kills, it's hard to adjust the next round without accurate information.

Expose the MMR. I appreciate the blog mentioning how match making works but it would be good to know what the MMR is since it often doesn't seem to match the ranked tier and not knowing can be frustrating.

I would like more clarification on whether the RP gained/lost depends on MMR or ranked tier, or RP etc. Also how does queuing in 2s affect this, given a partner's rank that might be different (or opponents with a large spread in rank/mmr)?

Let people quit/forfeit the Bo3, if your opponent disconnect after queuing/accepting for the next round then you don't get RP and it's annoying.

Match history should show how much RP was gained per match.

[bitter condor]

You have amazing points

[grizzled bane]

Now other characters know how it feels when it happens with Jason

[bitter condor]

What do you think about them adding infinite toasts tho @hazy plaza

[autumn estuary]

mutual fern interaction lines would make this game so much better. 2000 gleamium to make morty not yap at finn constantly i guess

[steep bronze]

Still think with the shield counter that’s wayyy too broken

Lmaoo I still don’t have all characters unlocked because they can’t figure out what currency they want to run with or give you enough of that currency to play solo which is insane

Also is host advantage a thing for everybody else too or just me because it’s driving me insane when I get games that certain moves go through for me but then I’ll match with someone new and not a single move will touch them or allow them to be combos

That’s insane to me

[stone jasper]

make it so teammates dont pick up my music on gizmo or its completely useless

[zealous nebula]

FIX YOUR FCKING RANKED GAMES

GAME ALWAYS FREEZES FOR NO RESON

FORCING PLAYERS TO STAY INGAME WAITINF FOR HOURS FOR NOTHING

EVERY 2 MATCHES THE SAME FCKIN PROBLEM

GAME ALWAYS FREEZES AFTER THE SECOND ROUND IN RANKED? CMON GIMME A BREAK

ALT F4 IS THE STANARD IN YOUR GAME RIGHT

if you dont know how to alt F4 you cant play thez game

[split robin]

No Circuit Drone outfit for Jason??

None for Season Pass characters maybe…

[grizzled bane]

Teammates can get your music???

[stone jasper]

yup

[nova cove]

Why do we have to play a whole two matches of ranked per person? With things like smurfs, it's gonna be impossible to just skip.

[stiff swallow]

you were gonna one-and-done people regardless of smurf status if you lost anyway

[nova cove]

I mean... yeah, because if we lose... naturally, trying again is kinda pointless if we know we are against someone better?

[heavy agate]

Yeah i hate it, i dont wanna play the same ranked match twice, c’mon

[autumn estuary]

gotta practice the matchup bro

[kindred radish]

someone thats not you disconnecting you in ranked punishing you when ur down 0-1 is the most stupid thing it should null the match. same as when its in the middle of a match

[uncut portal]

This patch is garbage

Learn to balance properly (stop doing it yourselves) and get someone who understands

[kindred radish]

I think the best of 3 is very good

[autumn estuary]

superman interaction with fern: "We all get better Fern don't you worry, it just takes a little time and effort." credit to @hexed furnace

tony add interaction lines with fern thanks i already wrote a bunch for you just search chat

[hexed furnace]

LOL thanks for the credit I guess😭

[nova cove]

Against someone who lets you breathe maybe. If you are getting killed from 0% it's hard to practice it.

[scenic raft]

been stuck on waiting for response 4/4 players readied for like 25 minutes...

in ranked

what do

[olive mesa]

Alt + f4

[scenic raft]

i was told wait it out so that i get points still (was on winning team)

[olive mesa]

You can if you want, PFG really needs to fire their incompetents

[clever ginkgo]

Gotta fix when we get stuck floting on the edge of the map. I lose way too many matches to that

The RP is bullcrap. How in the world does it make sense that a game in which goes to round three, and I lose 3-2 I lose 27. But one I lose 0-2 I only lose 17.

[patent halo]

please fix the elo system

[olive mesa]

Yeah, PFG owes me at least 50 rp for all the times I was d/c’ed by their garbage servers

(My ID is “NullEntity03” devs, give me my rp back you 🫏es)

[gentle pewter]

Remove Dexter's lab in ranked.

[olive mesa]

I like that stage, reminds me of the WarioWare stage in Brawl

[gentle pewter]

Warioware ring outs weren't so small tho.

[olive mesa]

Fair point

[proper nova]

No, they ARE, thats the point why wario ware is banned in comp, wario ware's Kill box is WAY SMALLER

[gentle pewter]

It's also been a while since I played smash. I do remember loving Wario ware. I thought it was banned because the transitions

[proper nova]

You can turn em off with stage hazards option

[turbid rover]

Forcing me to play ffa is a different type of torture

[olive mesa]

I play FFA mainly to see how stable the MVS servers are

[river burrow]

Please multiversus devs please please listen to me respond to my will please nerf arya hit boxes why is she 1 shot comboing me when im behind her, her side air is a kill move that can hit when the opponent is behind her and she has a dodge attack thats almost uncounterable PLEASE DEVS PLEASE

[turbid rover]

FFA is the worst gamemode I’ve played in a while

Being forced to play 10 games of it is insane

[turbid rover]

Arya been like that since day one

[river burrow]

ik i played beta they just refuse to nerf her

the dodge attack nerf isnt noticable

she can use her dodge attack after her dash attack for a free 25 damage nad you cant dodge the dash attack cause its a multi hit attack your best hope is to jump over it or stay out of its range

[olive mesa]

Yeah, that’s crazy. But for me, if the servers can handle 4 people fighting each other at once, it can handle a ranked 1v1. Don’t want to be forced to get a 5 point penalty for PFG’s faults.

[turbid rover]

I mean she’s way worse than when she was in beta and the start of launch

So that’s a bonus

They need to add replays

Im trynna vod review myself

[turbid rover]

She can use it 11 times in a row if she wanted too

[turbid rover]

Ur desync issue literally only happens on pc 😭

[split night]

I want to get characters with fighter currency, but it doesn’t allow that anymore. For the event characters, you either have to use Gleamium, the medals, or the circuit credits for the respective characters. I hope you can add an option that will enable to you use fighter currency too. I want to be able to play all of these cool characters that I have worked hard to get the fighter currency for!

Also, there is a bug where damage at the end of each match isn’t accurate. I was playing with a Lebron and he was dealing a lot of damage to the enemy team, but at the end of the match he only ended up with 50 damage on average. My theory is that it has something to do with perks and how the extra damage they can provide doesn’t add up with your actual damage, or it could be that the basket balls are bugged and they don’t count has LeBron and other projectile characters’ projectiles as your total damage.

[vagrant perch]

amm... in the fighters section you can do that, you know?

[feral shadow]

go to the store page and scroll down to the fighter store, i heard that that might let you buy them with fighter currency.

[turbid rover]

Silly Billy go to the store and go down to where you see fighter store and you can get characters like that

[split night]

Oh thank you! I didn’t think of that however it could lead people to think that you can’t use fighter currency for characters and for them to use the event tokens or Gleamium

[turbid rover]

Welp it happens

[split night]

Idk I think all options of purchase should always be visible

[vagrant perch]

i personally like both options, the only bad thing is the lack of medals and circuits, however, those are good ways to obtain characters without losing Fighter Currency in case you want to save them

[turbid rover]

Can we fix the run off bug

This isn’t a issue for me

But it’s so annoying

To play my friends

And they just run off

[mossy hill]

BRUH why arya down attack (knife spin down) HAS SHORT ASS WHIFF DELAY?

she can just instantly dodge

[turbid rover]

Because it’s a good move

Why does Velma grounded up tilt move her forward

[mossy hill]

they did put that on the patch note

just to make her better

which meh

besides velma up ground still predictable and really slow to dodge

[turbid rover]

She’s always been able to do that pretty sure

[mossy hill]

nopeeeeee

1.0 velma doesnt do that lol

her megaphone follow teamate

they add that feature in 1.05

Ground Side Attack

• More reliably combos from attack 2 to attack 3
  Air/Ground Neutral Attack
• Hitbox now better covers Velma’s arm and head
  ~ Removed automatic targeting on ally
  Air Up Attack
• Increased movement control
  Air Down Attack
• Increased movement control
  Air/Ground Down Special
• Cooldown reduced to 80s from 120s
  Air Side Special
• Increased movement control

this is 1.02

General

• Fixed an issue where Velma could get stuck to any fighter that grabbed Velma under certain conditions
  Passive
• Fixed an issue where evidence would stop randomly spawning on the map after Velma was rung out.
  Ground Side Attack 1

• On-whiff branch window advanced 4 frames
  Ground Side Attack 2
• On-whiff branch window advanced 4 frames
  Ground Up Attack
• Velma can now hold forward to slide forward during attack start-up
  Air/Ground Neutral Attack
• Velma can now aim the megaphone
  Air/Ground Neutral Special
  ~ Branch windows now standardized for both air and ground versions
  ~ “Heyyy” projectile hurtbox size increased to match hitbox size. Should address issues with inconsistent projectile interactions.
• All speech bubble types no longer collide with fall-through platforms
  Ground Side Special
• Minimum charge run speed increased
  – Knockback reduced to 2300 from 2500
• Knockback scaling increased to 9 from 0

• Fixed an issue where Velma could run off the screen if the ground was destroyed beneath her while running
  Air Side Special
  ~ Now ignores player collisions during movement
  Air Up Special

• Now has a chance to spawn evidence
  Ground Down Special (Mystery Machine)

• Fixed an issue where Velma could fall to her death if the ground was destroyed beneath her while summoning the Mystery Machine @turbid rover 1.05 patch

[turbid rover]

Go check in game then lmao she literally moves forward if you charge her grounded up tilt

😭

[mossy hill]

no you goof ball THEY ADD THAT ON 1.05

she isnt like that back in 1.00 until 1.04

[turbid rover]

I didn’t bother reading any of that btw

[mossy hill]

thats explain WHY SHE DO THAT

[turbid rover]

But it really doesn’t matter

[mossy hill]

Ground Up Attack

• Velma can now hold forward to slide forward during attack start-up

here

the point

[turbid rover]

Okay

Cool

Great

What’s the issue

😭

[mossy hill]

the issue is you tell it SINCE START

which is wrong

she never able to move forward while using up attack since start

they ADD IT MUCH LATER

[mossy hill]

this

you literally say always been able do that, that means you mentioning since full release of the game (or season 1 1.0 patch)

which is FALSE

[turbid rover]

Okay mb calm down

[mossy hill]

cuz they add that like half month later or something

[turbid rover]

It’s really not that serious

[mossy hill]

it just wording

also FFS THIS GAME DCED ME

just gained 13 and the game decide gave me Dc

[sturdy dagger]

Have the amount of signature perks be universal. Also no 2v2 only signature perks please.

[lapis glade]

i totally agree, btw what character has the most signature perks? for reference

[mossy hill]

yeah this is literally example for stripe perk

1 of them is literally 2v2 perk

can they just gave velma a perk where her HEY got removed but the bubble speech go for velma so it can bounce to get bigger bubble speech

[sturdy dagger]

Better if she just have the bigger ones with cooldown or if she has them in bighead mode.

[mossy hill]

true too

but that perk gonna be almost bad

cuz the cooldown for the book lol

is like 1 minute 30 sec

as if its gonna be already half match

[sturdy dagger]

Trade the Van for them?

[mossy hill]

ehh im fine

the van animation is slow anyway lol

[sharp fjord]

the van is guaranteed kill 100+, is it not?

[mossy hill]

yesnt

its 50/50

sometimes the van stupid enough go back and forward in the middle of the paltform

[mossy hill]

usually 50 ish can kill IF they are near corner

of platform

[gentle zinc]

Sounds like salt to me. Works out for me outside of the times where jab is too slow for the read to work if I didn't start it already. Tom is B. Too many stages destroy dynamite making it almost useless most of the time, no more sweet spot on lids, everybody can one hit Jerry, fishing pole has way less control than it had prior to rerelease and the platforms make that move nearly useless now too. They're not really all that fun and half of the kit gets bodied by platforms now. Also light enough to die at 60 or 70. I've migrated to being a Jason main

That's probably a big factor in why the T&J players. Now spam jab into paddle and frying pan slams all day. Only other thing that works is Jerry rocket and I've had it go straight through people if they're near me and got tired of dying in part or because of it.

[warm schooner]

Dodge fest

[scarlet shore]

Its 3 am dont reply to me when im trying to sleep i couldn't care less bout ur opinion on anything rn

[stiff swallow]

I am a Founder's Pack owner and will be able to unlock every single character in the game for likely the entirety of its lifespan with tickets for free. Therefore, Fighters Currency is fairly useless to me, and having event/battle pass/whatever rewards be Fighters Currency is really underwhelming because for Founders, it's a complete nothing prize. I am sitting on nearly 28k of it and it'll never be used.

Perhaps allow for some sort of other use of the currency? Can I gift it to a friend? Can I convert it to something else like Gleamium? Something else entirely?

[urban pasture]

when u fix the matchmaking system, master+plat against bronce+silver come on its sadistic

[stuck cave]

I think that in ranked the stages with destructible objects should be removed. My personal suggestions:
-Batcave - Remove this one. Without the Batmobile platforms it's just a smaller Sky Arena so it's redundant. (Alternatively make a version without the Batmobiles and with a bigger main stage so we have a bit more variety than 2 versions of Sky Arena)
-Cromulons - Make a new version of the stage with no speakers and maybe a higher blast zone. This would be a very solid ranked stage if not for those issues.
-Tree Fort - Same with Cromulons, make a version without the bouncy trees.

Also I think The Court should be removed and Dexter's Lab 2 slightly tweaked (imo smaller platforms and larger blast zones would make this a better stage).

[fathom kelp]

samurai jack is so broken dude

[upper wing]

i shouldnt ever be getting paired with bronze players in ranked as a gold, theres no excuse for that

[mossy hill]

people been complaning

[mossy hill]

honestly dexter lab platform are ANNOYING AF

it make the map unbearable sometimes

[lapis glade]

is anybody else getting stuck on the "next game starting in..." screen in ranked..? im stuck there indefinitely and i basically have to close multiversus, which causes me to lose RP

it just counts down to 0 and stops there, id love for this to get fixed as its already frustrating as is dealing with the very harsh RP loss in the later divisions

[mossy hill]

DONT usually its your opp Dc so better wait

u will still gain RP if u won previous match

[lapis glade]

it shows that noone has ready'd up, and it doesnt let me either. ive waited on that screen for a while and its just stuck lol

its not that common but when it does occur its very annoying

[mossy hill]

i mean i been facing that the game stuck on readu yp

for several minutes

then it just say i dced but gain RP

cuz the opp DC

[lapis glade]

hm

[forest mango]

NERF SAMURAI JACK ALL THEY DO IS SPAM ON THE TOPIC MAKE ATTACK DECAY MORE POTENT AND NERF BLACK ADAM

[remote dirge]

Mvs make us go against people in our rank 🙏

#clips message

How can a bronze go against a plat

Ruins the whole purpose of ranked, If I only wanted to play against people my skill level and not enjoy the fun of ranking up I would play casual 1v1s.

I’ve never played a 1v1 game and had to go against someone 3 ranks above me that’s just diabolical

[mossy hill]

Attack decay still in game

It just not pop out as text

[sturdy dagger]

Trim the interior of Variant outfits. No reason for Steven's legs be clipping out of the Pink Diamond outfit, there's literally no reason for there to be the leg modeled inside.

[somber trellis]

Why act like samurai jack is goated. He isnt. He isnt even the best character with a sword. (Finn and Arya)

[sturdy dagger]

It needs a cooldown or to be negative on whiff.

Maybe have Jacks side special charge for range instead of it covering the whole Batman stage by default

[sturdy dagger]

Its annoying in 1v1 but it's very oppressive in duos. You're no longer playing the game you're just avoiding that obnoxious hitbox.

[somber trellis]

There are still characters that need more nerfs or buffs that arent talked about

[mossy hill]

Imma add this
Velma buff waiting room : first time?

She hasnt get buff since 1.05

[signal summit]

the fact that attk decay FOR USING THE SAME MOVE OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS REMOVED IS RUINING THE GAME

[olive mesa]

We need to stop sword growth, it’s so stupid for Jack and Finn to have their swords grow

[vague hound]

Nerf Jack please. He has like no endlag on his moves minus like 5

[hazy plaza]

I like toasts being kinda limited but you should also be able to give something like a GG or thumbs up to the match or player. I'd also like if you could give burnt toasts when you're salty lol

[cinder sable]

Ranked match making and the mmr system is pho king trash

[flat basin]

Please change free for all matches to stock matches. I'm tired of playing and sometimes losing to people that just do nothing and give free kills to people.

[autumn estuary]

do you play shaggy because i do this to shaggies

I'm lowkey about it though

[flat basin]

no I'm a Harley main.

If they change the FFA matches to have stock, It would make the people that like to do nothing get eliminated first leaving the people that do wanna play at least earn a win respectively.

[little heron]

just lost a match after the first fight cauwse it disconected me and one other guy

[flat basin]

You're probably playing against wifi warriors unfortunately.

One should always be hardwired if possible when playing fighting games.

[olive estuary]

I'm trying to main Marvin, but after a lot of training, the only good move is his Spaceship's Rocket. Any tips to play with him? I'm trying a lot of combos but they give low damage and are hard to connect because after the second hit the "stun moment" last little. I think he need some buffs. A lot of his special and normal attacks are slow and need a lot of time to be used again.

It is funny to play with Marvin but these point are sad to see.

[light star]

samurai jack didnt even get touched is diabolical work

[brave otter]

Triple mission xp for events. They take an unreasonable amount of time

[warm schooner]

Too early. Not enough data. Give it till the next update.

[primal glade]

Bro gizmos grounded down special is the most useless move in the entire game yall should change it

[narrow flame]

I agree Gizmo has some useless moves, but he's definitely not high on the priority list of characters that need help 😂

[distant parrot]

let me use fighter currency on all the characters from the event shops

its stupid and scummy not to

i cant believe theyre still trying to monetize the actual roster itself

over the thousands of skin ideas

[cyan patrol]

They have to have tens if not hundreds of thousands of matches. They had plenty of data

[native cedar]

hey guys, I have a clip of my move dealing dmg, but not dealing knockback, the enemy didnt have armor, but I cant send it in here, would I send it in clips?

[tacit aspen]

im in gold and your matching me with bronze, then take away just as many points as a win, doesnt make sense

[uncut dagger]

make bo3 optional and add some text saying that if u want to rematch you get extra rp for winning (some key jingling trick idk9

[olive mesa]

3 rank desyncs in a row.

2 of them I was winning easily

[olive mesa]

That could work, biggest problem with rematching in ranked is that if it’s unlimited rematches, you and a friend could just try until you two que together and just get a bunch of wins to get master and then loses so your friend can get master.

I mean if you want the ranked skins

[small raptor]

Are we supposed to lose RP in silver too? I thought we started loosing rp in gold...

[olive mesa]

I thought so too, but you start to get demoted in gold. Silver starts the losing of rp.

[small raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/sweet-miss-you-sad-alone-lonely-gif-3026619966515978355

ahhh makes sense

[little heron]

anyone else think crumulons isnt the best for comp

it feels like in those games, one teamm tends to gain a lot of damage quickly qhile the other doesn't

[harsh bone]

Momentum being saved needs to be fixed. If someone gets launched into a persons jab, the jab should instantly apply jab momentum, not tap the person, continue to launch them, but give that person the kill. Makes zero sense. People steal so many kills in FFA because of this bug lmao.

[olive mesa]

Finally got to Gold, PFG did not need to make the rp system so funking stupid

[proud maple]

https://i.imgur.com/fxlePFl.png
He was bad, and gross. Pls ban

[graceful holly]

time for my regular rant. Look idk how good T&J is but something needs to be done about how he can just easily stunlock you with sthe mallet and paddle combo. dodging needs to be adjusted as most sweaty fights kinda devolve into dodge sliding all over the place till someone gets hit by something it just doesn't feel like a brawl. Supes and wonder woman just having ooodles have armor is just kinda bleh to fight against. y does WW shield attack also give her armor so she's fully protected at all sides. maybe it would be fine BUT SOMEBODY thought it was a good idea to have Perks to cost currency so you can't freely tie them to a match up. which idk kinda defeats the purpose of loadouts if you can only afford to have 1 or 2 loadouts

oh look a character with armor or projectile tile spam. this would be a good time to switch to the reflect perk and armor killer perk as a counter oh wait i can't cause I didn't BUY THEM FOR THIS CHARACTER I BOUGHT

[versed latch]

Give shaggy sandwich a cooldown

[feral shadow]

you should make it so that you cant have the same stage 2x in bo3

[sturdy dagger]

Give Bugs something other than Shaggy's sandwich in the Acme box and Safe.

It looks and feels hacky.

Safe could have: gold brick or a stack of cash in the safe.

Acme box could have: Cherry bombs, darts, a mini rocket, or hell it could even just make the big rocket cool down recover faster.

[warm schooner]

Disable rank. Hire a few pro platform fighter gamers without bias to test and balance the characters and mechanics. I love this game - I’m a founder and I’m proud of it, but this game just ain’t ready yet.

I’m sure your hearts are in the right place, but ya need help.

[stuck sable]

This game is a broken piece of crap and whoever decided that Jack didn't need a nerf and that Velma didn't need buffs in the last patch clearly should not be in charge of game balance

[vapid drift]

Grinding the events the way they are now is abysmal. I dint complain often but this is much too time consuming...

[eternal moon]

I'm happy they kinda fixed the grinding system but it's needs a little bit more improvement

Can Multiversus add a feature on the main menu that allows us to choose which stage we like to fight on in online matches without having the game choose the map randomly?

[sonic folio]

what do you mean? the grinding is worse now lmao

[steep bronze]

Are we surprised this game sucks considering who it’s made by?

[eternal moon]

WB?

[steep bronze]

I mean technically player first but warner brothers has their name all over it

Its just very obvious that they need help

[eternal moon]

The publisher shouldn't have rushed them

[steep bronze]

Matchmaking system is the saddest thing I've ever seen

There has to be host advantage too

its insane

[eternal moon]

Tony and the rest of team are listening

For feedback

[steep bronze]

I believe it

otherwise the game is gonna die quickly

ranked is already infinitely worse since they added the best 2 out of 3 setup

[eternal moon]

If you're ready to make a complaint this is your chance

[steep bronze]

i thought this was and theyre reading it

This is the game feedback area no?

[olive mesa]

Yeah, we just trash talk the game and the devs here

[narrow flame]

@lucid bolt Why would you put a move like Jack's Empowered Slash in a game with NO SHIELD BUTTON??? It catches dodges... Oh wait, dodge distance is different for each character. Imbeciles...

[olive mesa]

You should have not done what you just did

[narrow flame]

I literally don't care anymore. They shouldnt have done what they did to this game

Been waiting to get banned since yesterday tbh

[grizzled bane]

Witnessing the banishment of a disrespectful discord user in real time? 🍿😃

[olive mesa]

Dude, this channel is at minimum 80% trash talking and insulting the devs, and you just @ ed one to come in here

[lofty beacon]

Man forreal in his feels

Couldn’t be me

[narrow flame]

Since yesterday. Still waiting

[olive mesa]

Funk your Jason whining

[narrow flame]

Don't care what anybody thinks or I wouldn't have posted anything. Think

[olive mesa]

At most you’re just gonna get told not to ping the devs and then get ignored

[grizzled bane]

I was gonna put in my list for tips on how I think Jason should be buffed, but now that you @'d the devs and just being disrespectful about the game, I feel as if I'll get dragged down with you

[scarlet shore]

ive done that prolly 100 times by now and i wouldnt be too worried for him @ing the devs cause i doubt they actually see this channel

i mean they buffed harley every patch since the mid season

[grizzled bane]

Have you seen my list of suggestions for buffs?

[scarlet shore]

no id love to see and compare

for me he needs 3 buffs and thats it

imo his armor should work like armored buns for every 5 grey health he has from any way of getting it he should be able to tank 1 full hit armor break or not

his limbs should be invincible on his weapon attacks so people stop trading with disjoints

and finally

make his dodge have more i frames he barely goes anywhere and thats fine but just make it so he doesnt dodge something and still be hit by it 99% of the time

u do all that he may be a mid tier rather than at least 2nd worst in the game

[bitter condor]

I like it

[grizzled bane]

I'll send mine here soon

How you should buff Jason Voorhees without making him broken:

• Fixing his passive. Currently, his passive states "Jason cannot take knockback while he has GRAY HEALTH". There are two things wrong with his passive that should be addressed. 1) This passive ONLY applies to his neutral special's gray health. Make it so it will apply with ANY instance of additional gray health. 2) The passive is deceptive. It grants Jason armor instead, rather than just making it so he takes no knockback. This makes it so character can just use armor break moves and armor break perks to just go up and attack Jason with an extra 10 to 15 damage depending on how much Jason charged his neutral special. If you made it so the passive actually grants no knockback instead of armor, that would honestly be the best buff if you were to pick any of these. If not... please adjust the passive text to read "Jason gains armor while he has GRAY HEALTH" so it's not as deceptive.

• Jason's hurtboxes are huge, which is expected of a big character like him, but some of his hurtboxes are actually bigger than him. That can make it so people can attack his weapons when he has them streched out to attack, and Jason would get hit for it instead, trading moves when the attack the opponent threw out shouldn't have connected. If you aren't planning to adjust his hurtboxes (or are waiting until you tweaked everyone's hurtboxes/hitboxes), I suggest looking into intangebility frames on his arms for moves that use his Machete and Axe.

• As a heavy, Jason suprisingly only has one source of armor (which shouldn't even be classified as armor technically, given my first point). If you were to give some moves armor (Up Attack and Neutral Attack especially), that would help put him in line with other heavys like Superman and Wonder Woman.

• The nerf to his Jab 1 was... pretty unnecessary to say the least, especially with characters like Joker, Finn, and Wonder Woman (seriously, there was a tournamet not too long ago where like 8 of the 10 teams had a Wonder Woman in top 10). Reverting his Jab 1 would be really appreciated.

I also wanted to add a point about his perks and his sleeping bag move, but I think focusing on the other points first is the way to go tbh

[scarlet shore]

essentially yeah the only other thing id want as a jason main is more hitstun on my moves

cause i mean cmon superman is heavy and he gets kazuya levels of hitstun if anyone trades with jason and i mean anyone even velma jason cannot hit them again fast enough to make any trade not negative for jason and given his limbs arent invulnerable on his weapon swings this happens at least 4 times per match

[narrow flame]

That's honestly worse than just banning me if this is true

[scarlet shore]

as in i have listed jason buffs not @'d the devs 100s of times lmao

[narrow flame]

I'd rather get shot just so they can actually peak at this channel instead of having us all speak into the void. I know other people use Discord for MVS but I don't, so I'll be 100% fine lmao

[cinder sable]

@mossy jacinth bro be better. Lame ah jack rage quitting

[scarlet shore]

oh no someone fought someone in this discord and is gonna start an arguement im here for this LETS GOO

https://tenor.com/view/fight-win-pines-gravity-falls-grunkle-stan-gif-12897342

[grizzled bane]

POPCORN! GET YOUR POPCORN 'ERE 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

[scarlet shore]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-pitchfork-riot-pitchforks-gif-13416816

[mossy jacinth]

That match was ass

[cinder sable]

You were ass. Plat 1 jack less than a Hundo damage and 0 kills and I was Jason carrying you clown smh

Then you rage quit

Gold 2 Jason

Bro got excuses and is playing the broken new character kekw

[grizzled bane]

🍿😃📸

[hollow narwhal]

although the ability to earn the skins for events (free) is amazing, the varied amount of exp per win and game is confusing and should be explained within the event details.

I win a Ranked game and gain 150 exp. (1 round) the second i gained 100)

I lose a ranked game and gain 120 (total)

I win a ranked game and gain 220 (111xp twice) somehow

I win a FFA game and gain 90.

This is odd and weirdly forcing players to play more than needed if it was a flat number.

[mossy jacinth]

Were you playing with Jason?.. I hope not

[cinder sable]

I was carrying you as Jason if that’s what you mean, yes

🗿💀

[mossy jacinth]

Bro just delete the game

I gave up when I saw how bad you was

[cinder sable]

Cry harder lil boy

[mossy jacinth]

Imma pray the next person that gets teamed up with you has patience..

[grizzled bane]

[scarlet shore]

just saying if u got matched in 2s and you sd on purpose while ur random teammate is still trying to win u should prolly be the one deleting the game cause thats major 🧂

[mossy jacinth]

I feel that, I prefer not to waste my time in a ranked match. I'd admit I need more patience 🫥

[scarlet shore]

not to mention if ur playing with a jason teammate u ought to know hes gonna be combo food so u as a faster and much better character need to help him get out of situations like that so he can better help u by punishing with axe slam or something similar

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-simple-its-shrimple-gif-25735431

[mossy jacinth]

I tried honestly, that's what I was counting on but it didn't really play out that way

No hard feelings

[cinder sable]

Smh it’s a common theme, too many brainless Jack players carried by a broken character

[sturdy dagger]

Whiffing should be more punishable on several attacks, you can't have dodge be the main defensive action and have characters that can have another attack ready before the dodge ends.

Boundaries are too tight. Characters being able to carry you out of bounds without accumulating a half decent amount of damage, is plain stupid.

Add alternate colors, it's 2024 all fighters have them.

Don't waste mission and battlepass rewards on perk currency, we should be getting a decent amount from leveling up a character. There should be more perk currency for leveling up characters, btw.

Please give Bugs back dynamite. Just adjust the damage if you think it's too strong. As I said before Acme isn't a deli.

[olive mesa]

Yeah, enough to buy 1 perk every 2 levels excluding the levels for FC and Gleamium

[autumn estuary]

you've got fern account cosmetics ready for next season right tony?

[grizzled bane]

Sorry man, Beetlejuice needed his salad

[light star]

So many defensive inconsistencies run through the game. its like half the cast can wakeup then a very decent other half cant. Then some people run so fast they dont even need to dash dodge , then sum people use a armor break move as a dodge

it get real complicated for no reason but i get what u saying

and whiffs usually end up placing them in a good spot to attack without being punished

[autumn estuary]

i'll kick his ass and get em back nobody hurts fern

[autumn estuary]

why would you make a comment like that anyways that's not true and can really hurt peoples feelings

[autumn estuary]

it's kinda sus too tbh

not very skibidi of you

or whatever the kids say

[grizzled bane]

Boooooo

[autumn estuary]

just don't be mean to me (fern) that's all

[grizzled bane]

In all seriousness, I hope Fern gets more stuff for yall. Fern players are the best "Finn" players

[autumn estuary]

grass doesn't taste good anyways

rick said it best

graaaaaaasss tastes bad

[stiff shell]

Please removed forced sets from ranked.... Its super unhealthy and really makes me only play 2 games each time I hop on

I play jason after you murdered stripe and I don't want to play the same meta characters on repeat

Being forced into a set means even if I some how beat the meta character I must play them again

[dire tinsel]

Play regular ones then. Forced Bo3 is the best thing to happen to online since the game released. Everyone should be doing Bo3s.

What they really do need to focus on is nerfing f'n Jack. That's what's unhealthy for online right now.

[stiff shell]

Not really. I want something to grind for and BO3 is super toxic especially in lower ranks when I'm facing master players

[dire tinsel]

It's toxic no matter where you play. People be jerks, you can't get away from that.

[stiff shell]

With best of 1s its easier to not get frustrated from stupidity. Bo3 sets have never been fun in any game. They should add 2 playlist for ranked then like MTG arena has. Best of 1 and best of 3. Because I would much rather run one game instead of sitting through a boring set

[dire tinsel]

Bo3 is the way it should be online. You shouldn't get to take a win and run away nor should be denied a chance to learn from the first game and make a come back.

[dire tinsel]

And plenty of people would rather go through the Bo3 than only get one game at a time per opponent. Ranked is set up for sweats. That's how it goes in tourneys. Best of 3 and Best of 5 for finals. It's a bummer you don't like it, I guess it means Ranked isn't for you. I hated regular 1v1s because nobody would rematch. I'm glad the rule was finally implemented.

[narrow flame]

This is Jab&Dodge Versus currently

[narrow flame]

Why are you being an elitist. Much better and respected games, like Tekken 8 & SF6, both games I've hit top ranks in, give you the option to leave the set at any time

MVS has an objectively bad rank system, from using Casual Match MMR to determine your RP, to Masters farming Gold players, and even the fact that they didn't use placement matches yet seperate rank for each character which forces you to start at Bronze Everytime even if you're Diamond

The fact that they use MMR matchmaking instead of Rank matchmaking in RANKED is a huge problem in itself. Should be fighting similar ranks with a linear RP system. This minimizes the randomness & subjectivity we are seeing now. There's no reason I should have a rank win rate of 60% but am bouncing up & down in D5

[dire tinsel]

Explain how it's elitist to say that I think Ranked should be Bo3 because that's my preferred and most respected model?

[narrow flame]

The key word is YOUR respected model. Everyone should be able to enjoy their own copy of the game. So giving people the OPTION to leave should be integral

[prime magnet]

Why only give a select few skins for certain characters for Circuit credit shop?

[dire tinsel]

Yes, obviously it's my opinion I'm sharing. They're not going to be able to meet everyone's requests/preferences. BUT, the game does offer people the option to leave after 1 game, it's standard 1v1s and 2vs. Ranked is based around standardized tourney rules.

[dire tinsel]

It is not Elitist to say "this is my preferred ruleset". I don't support creating 2 new lobbies for Ranked that allow people to leave after one game for a few reasons. But if they were to implement it, that's great for the people who want it. But requesting Ranked do away with Bo3 is the same thing as me saying I want it to stay. So what's your definition of elitist? Does that make @stiff shell elitist too?

[narrow flame]

I don't agree with mandatory BO1 or BO3, I agree with having the choice to finish the BO3 or leave after the 1st or 2nd game. I've gotten 1-&-done'd plenty of times, if you're good you'll climb you'll be alright. If you're constantly losing the 1st game that's not a good tournament habit either. Admittedly I've never played an MVS tournament (probably won't in its current balance) but I've played plenty of Tekken 7, Mortal Kombat X, Melee, and many other fighters in tournament so I am well aware

BO1 is a skill in itself, even in tournaments, you want counter pick & knowledge advantage if you lose game 2

@dire tinsel

[dire tinsel]

That's fine that you think that. I don't know what tourneys you've been to but all of the games you listed have Bo3 rulesets at tourneys. Maybe their online isn't, I can't speak to that. What I do know is that as a player and spectator, Bo3 in pools and Bo5 in finals is standard. If someone doesn't want to be forced to do a Bo3 they can play regular 1s or 2s. And if you want the prizes, you have to suck it up. I know that I have to put up with people winning or losing one game them bailing when I'm doing the daily challenges. None of us are going to be 100% happy. But right now there is an option to play something other than Bo3 rulesets, it just doesn't come with ranked rewards.

[remote dirge]

Bo3 should be optional

[graceful holly]

eh i disagree Bo3 would be fine but afaik you can't swap characters or perks during bo3 which makes the format worthless

[remote dirge]

Also make ranked based on ranked and not sbmm 🙏

[narrow flame]

All the tournaments I've been in have been BO3 in bracket and BO5 in the Finals. So I agree with your sentiment from a tournament player prospective POV. But I'm saying that ranked, even though it's suppose to be skill-based, should have optional BO3. Because not everyone playing rank is training for a tournament, they just want to banner and rewards

[graceful holly]

even in tcgs you can still have a sideboard to pull from in your Bo3 matches you don't even get that luxurary here

[narrow flame]

This should've been common sense. Along with linear RP gain/loss

[remote dirge]

Swap characters I can understand but not swapping perks is so weird

[graceful holly]

I mean the Perk system is dumb either way cause your limited by Perk points but thats a different thing

[remote dirge]

Fr low rank should never be sweaty wth

[narrow flame]

@dire tinsel Also to be clear, I have no issues with mandatory BO3, I can handle it because I know how to adapt and close a set. I'm more upset at the RP system being subjective and based on some perceived MMR

[dire tinsel]

We'll have to chalk it up to an agree to disagree here 😛 But I do hear your points. And I agree that it would be cool to swap characters in between a Bo3. Perks are already something that can be changed to a degree that I like.

[dire tinsel]

I can agree with that. The RP system isn't done well.

[graceful holly]

Bo3 makes sense in high ranks where the pool is smaller so you actually like know the players and stuff doesn't make sense in low ranks though. also most high ranks in FGC do Bo3 just casually. thats something that they tried to emulate but failed

[narrow flame]

I'm currently gaining +6 and losing -16 in D5 with Jason. I have a 60% overall winrate. There's no reason for me to be stuck in D5

[remote dirge]

Swapping characters in best of 3 is so weird. It’s like playing gold reindog with and then you switching to your masters Finn

[narrow flame]

In the pro scene they do Best of whenever the heck they get tired lol. I use to play one person for hours when training in Tekken 7, Injustice 1, or any other game I competed in

[graceful holly]

imo perks would be fine if you had access to all of them on a bought character but you don't so you only ever have 2 loadouts. kinda defeats the purpose of perks imo.

[turbid rover]

Nerf morty

[dire tinsel]

I do actually see your point there. I was thinking in tourneys at EVO and stuff when people swap characters. But when you're being matched based on the ranking of the current character you're playing I agree that wouldn't be cool. I take it back, I don't want the ability to swap characters in Ranked.

[remote dirge]

It’s crazy how I hate fighting Morty and TNJ more than any other character

[dire tinsel]

Agreed, the Perk system being per character is super lame.

[mossy jacinth]

Does the salad have a couple grub worms? 🐛

[autumn estuary]

no salad is happening!

[turbid rover]

I hate fighting morty and joker the most tbh

[graceful holly]

def makes cdharacters like armor heavy characters a pain. since you can't just swap to armor killer and stop them nope you got to deal with them with an incomplete toolbox

[remote dirge]

actually I hate the playstyle more than the character

I can stand fighting players who play so passive

[mossy jacinth]

The penalty is an option. I fell similar especially if you know the match up is definitely unfair. If you force out you get up to 15 min penalty until you can match up again

1st force out is 3 min penalty

[turbid rover]

I hate the character more than the play style

I can adapt to the play style

The character tho

One combo that does 50 percent

And it’s so easy to land

And you can’t di

Very fun

[remote dirge]

A bunch of characters have 50+ damage combos

[mossy jacinth]

Augh I wanted to put an order in

[turbid rover]

Okay but most of them don’t take 3 buttons to get it for free

[autumn estuary]

finn will literally end you chill

[mossy jacinth]

[graceful carbon]

nerf black adam

[young carbon]

nerf shaggy pls

hey annoying and too op

[bitter condor]

They should add infinite toasts

[bitter condor]

bro lost against a shaggy

[autumn estuary]

considering a shaggy was #1 on the leaderboards for a bit looks like that's not too uncommon

[bitter condor]

That’s my bad