game-feedback

[foggy ether]

Jack can’t do that

He needs to read his opponents

Even more so

Than others

[regal fossil]

I will agree that it nots a great combo tool, and requires a read but with the games dodging mechanic it’s like even if it’s not in the right stop or off the hit box is gigantic to where the read can just be a guess and you’ll prolly
Hit lmao

Especially the idea of having the triple hit part and the jab range is crazy asf

Maybe top 3 jab, idk I agree the touch to deaths are nuts and those characters should not have it for sure

[foggy ether]

Gotta rephrase that cuz most reads are guesses

Educated guesses

[regal fossil]

Yeah I can agree but it’s just easy to read most movements when the move can hit from the back and front I feel

The zone of area he has on it is nuts

Idk i can say I might be bugging but it just doesn’t feel right to see the range he posses on most moves like don’t destroy him just tone it down

[foggy ether]

Ok yeah I can understand that. Not as bad as Finn backpack though. You can parry jack or counter and make him whiff

[regal fossil]

Yeah it’s just when a game like this has the wild like hurtbox to hitbox ratio it’s just his hitboxes are pretty gnarly then most lol especially with the idea I feel he like never has to use the dodge meter for offense thus allowing him to be feel to evade and use those huge hitboxes even better

Or does side special use it? Cause I might be wrong there

[mossy hill]

is it even possible they swap the character roles?

[foggy ether]

I am an advocate for Hitbox and Hurtbox adjustment.
I strongly feel that focusing on those will nerf and buff where needed.

[mossy hill]

just hope they swap morty roles into mage

i think roles is kinda matter since it change the attribute? who knows

[regal fossil]

Yeah I can agree

[foggy ether]

Well you actually do need to dodge and use IAD or whatever it’s called to do his “combos”

[regal fossil]

Yeah but like you said there’s really not to many to do he doesn’t seem like a combo character at all for sure all read bait and punishing for sure. And yeah if they can fix hitboxes to where you aren’t getting hit in the way he hits you I’d be like okay awesome glad he’s here

I mean I’m glad he’s here

[foggy ether]

The thing is he struggles with killing on side.
From your experience how has jack killed you horizontally?

[prime magnet]

i havent read what yall are saying but jack has killed me with his slash, is other slash and the big slash

horizontally

[gleaming sinew]

I think all moves need a set knockback angle, the blast zones need to be farther away, and certain projectiles need to decay after a second or two.

[mossy hill]

and his down special (air) ALSO HIT REALLY BIG 180 DEGREE VERTICALLY

[regal fossil]

Yeah idk from my experience I’ve been killed horizontally more then vertically in every way

[foggy ether]

In what way? What moves?

[regal fossil]

Slash, the grab, Air down I mean

[foggy ether]

Ok

That’s all a part of my point.

[mossy hill]

LMAO

I MADE THIS FINN GAVE UP

they tried backpack me but miss THEN i just up air them and they got K/OED

[regal fossil]

I mean side special from what I’m labbing as well of course, but fr I’ve def just been caught at the most wackiest angle with the side special and been like I knew it was coming but you can’t dodge it off stage that well

Idk I’m glad he’s here it’s just we gots to tone down this hitbox of it, truth be told only thing on him that just seems wild now that I’m playing with him in training

But his range is still just gnarly with that jab and the sword itself

[foggy ether]

What’s worse? On stage side b or off stage?

When you are

[regal fossil]

Hmmmmm I feel Ariel side b wild so offstage? Cause the start up is so fast, seems a lot faster then grounded side special

The burst of it is crazy

And add that with the like powered up version and weaken

Unless I’m tweaking it it feels like it

[foggy ether]

Right. Everyone would agree off stage side b is strong

[regal fossil]

Also i appreciate having the like conversation about it. Im not tryna say he shouldn’t be in the game, or like should be destroyed. Just some certain tweaks and tone downs for sure, but your right there’s alot other characters then gotta get destroyed ToD’s are crazy. Reminds me of smash with rob, or meta knight, just a wild concept to get touch and die

[regal fossil]

Yeah I would say with that and the hitbox of it the range is wild, especially off stage jacks I guess just crazy

[mossy hill]

how do i even get closer to FRICKIN SMITH

all his attack is ranged AF

as a bruiser

he even barely has delay from moves to moves

[foggy ether]

This is how a REAL discussion about balance is made. What we’ve been doing.

All I’ll say is that his off ledge side b is most consistent way of killing.
Take that away… what would you want him to have?

[autumn estuary]

big chungus emote

[regal fossil]

Yeah it’s good stuff man. Hmm see when put that way I can say idk, in the gist of it all I can just say it should have maybe more end lag and then when they fix those hitboxes and hurtboxes he would be golden

[fervent drum]

Please learn how to balance fighters. SJ is way too overpowering. Nerf him into the ground

[mossy hill]

instead nerf him to ground like he is USELESS LIKE VELMA

better just readjust some of the movews

like add end lag or reduce the hitbox

cuz his hitbox are wide af

[fervent drum]

Nah, at this point, I want him USELESS. Seriously screw anyone who plays him.

Also, please tell me your name is unrelated to what I am thinking it is

[mossy hill]

wdym i really main velma lol

already at plat 4 with her

[mossy hill]

also jack huge weakness literally projectiles

but again there isnt much character that shot projectiles

[fervent drum]

Oh, I meant the other part of your lol. Velma is cool

[fervent drum]

I want Jack in D tier so bad. Never had this much issue with a character since Beta Jake

[mossy hill]

i mean

did u see the massive buff lebron and jake get in 1/05

and also 2.00 jake got more huge buff

since he is really that bad

but velma only got that 1 patch huge buff nothing else lol

[foggy ether]

Exactly. Something like that! Sounds a lot more better when we talk this way rather then losing our minds on something new that is frustrating

[foggy ether]

Tbh I win consistently against Jack

[fervent drum]

Straight cap, Bro is OP.

[foggy ether]

Can’t say the same against other characters

[foggy ether]

He really isn’t

[fervent drum]

LMFAO

Yeah, sure bud

That's why the top 100 is full of Jacks

[foggy ether]

What percentage of that do you think is because he was just released?

[mossy hill]

@foggy etherim happy they actually changing the power pledge drive mission

its exp you gain

not the character need be leveled up

[fervent drum]

None. He is only there cause he's OP

Honestly, I never lose against Morty and Finn. Just SJ

[mossy hill]

meanwhile top 1 is literally FINN

YES YOU HEARD ME

TOP 1 RANK IS FRICKIN FINN

and u complaining jack is otp 100 fill

[foggy ether]

You know that’s a lie

[foggy ether]

This is a lie 😂

[mossy hill]

@foggy ether aye knight

show em

[foggy ether]

Saying “never” is impossible

[mossy hill]

that pict

SHOW THEM

THAT PICT

you know what i mean

[foggy ether]

Haha. 1 in match

[mossy hill]

the one i play

[foggy ether]

I didn’t save it

[fervent drum]

No. Camping Joker is far more annoying than a camping Morty.

[foggy ether]

“Annoying” is different than saying “not losing”

[fervent drum]

I do play a tank, so Morty and Finn and easy to kill early for me. I don;t lose against Morty or Finn very often. Very rarely.

[mossy hill]

you know whats more annoying? agent smith

he just staright UGH

[fervent drum]

Agent Smiths are either the easiest things in the world or HELL

[mossy hill]

alot range attack

[foggy ether]

Do you think it’s fair to judge balanced based on a single character archetype like a “Tank”?

[mossy hill]

yeah

like seriously

OFC TANK DONT HAVE PROBLEM WITH MORTY MUCH

meanwhile when im using mage i have problem with them

[fervent drum]

I just 3 stocked a Morty in Platnium lol

[foggy ether]

Velma need buff

[mossy hill]

ITS DIFFERENT FREAKING STORY if u using tank

morty is pain AF if u using certain character

[fervent drum]

Same with SJ. SJ is OP, the same as Finn and Morty.

Honestly? Finn, SJ, and Morty nerfs are needed. Arya too maybe, but she takes skill to play.

[foggy ether]

Tell me why SJ is OP?

Do you think he’s top 3?

Or 5?

[late quail]

Nah just WW needs nerf those characters are fine

[fervent drum]

Too high range, side special and jab is unpunishable, and every move he has so much knockback. SJ is top 5, stop coping lol. Look at the top 100 leaderboard !

[fervent drum]

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Gtfo

[foggy ether]

What if there was like… 5 other characters that had that. Then what

[fervent drum]

SJ does it best. Again, check the leaderboard

[foggy ether]

So… your saying SJ best character

[mossy hill]

if u notice last several days now finn and IG is mostly on top 100

rather than jack

cuz FINN HAS 0 TO KILL MOVES

[fervent drum]

??? I think he's probably third behind Finn and IG. Finn has a 0td and IG is just awful to fight against. I'd ban IG from ranked personally. At least 1v1

[mossy hill]

@foggy ether i dmed u the picture

[foggy ether]

So 3rd? Yeah I just disagree with that. You didn’t even include Joker.

[foggy ether]

Got it! We cant post pics here I think

[foggy ether]

Why don’t we gain more points for beating same ranked players?

I don’t understand how points work in Ranked

It’s nearly impossible to reach Master Rank at this win loss point system

I get like 5 points but lose 10

What determines how many points you earn?

[fervent drum]

Because of the often connection problems, why make us lose point?

The game isn't balanced, some character have more 0td than other's and the servers aren't perfect

Just make it where we get points, but don;t lose them

[foggy ether]

Because then gaining points would be pointless???

[mossy hill]

Just send in videogames

[fervent drum]

You're just full of bad takes today LOL

A lot of online games have it be where you can't lose points. Make it where the better you are means the easier you gain points. That easy

[foggy ether]

So you don’t want it to be possible to lose Rank points??? That’s pointless

[fervent drum]

Yeah, your dumb for thinking otherwise.

With the server issues and unbalanced 0tD, just have it be more like a party game and dont have us lose points

[foggy ether]

How is that dumb? How is that dumb when literally that’s how every fighting game ranked mode works?

[fervent drum]

Most other fighting games have good balance and good servers.

[foggy ether]

That has nothing to do with ranked points

[ornate kraken]

I’m evil

[fervent drum]

Why should I lose points when the server bugs or I get put against a IG or a Finn

[foggy ether]

I ask the same thing in SF or Tekken or any other fighter

When server bugs

[fervent drum]

Bro is coping. Get off my back bruh

[foggy ether]

Literally the truth lol

[fervent drum]

I promise it ain't

[foggy ether]

Huh?

“You it ain’t”?

[mossy hill]

I would want they just readjust the gain and lost

Instead sh tons of lost

And barely gain

[foggy ether]

Yeah. Defeating a higher ranked opponent should yield more points.
Lesser ranked opponent yield less points.
And same ranked opponent medium.
It doesn’t feel that way if it is that way.

I don’t think you should lose a ton of points for losing to a lower ranked player.

Because you don’t earn a lot for beating them. If that’s even how it works

I wish it was explained better

[fervent drum]

Just shush up LMFAO L takes hard core

[foggy ether]

PFG DEVS

The new emotes/stickers are hilarious! Whoever thought of them is doing there job really well!
Also thank you for fixing shaggy taunt

[mossy hill]

tbh jack emote are hilarious

[whole pond]

Is there a bug with Steven universe having to full charge all attacks?

[mossy hill]

brooo superman jabs still BS and even tho u can dodge

it almost nonstophit

[mossy hill]

i just saw this 1 superman manage punch nonstop

while moving me to left or right

[upper wing]

so when yall doing something about finn and arya, multiple balance patches of them evading changes and now they're everywhere in ranked

[mossy hill]

not sure for arya

but OFC FINN EVERYWHERE

even harley arent much problem now

[upper wing]

all my matches are just finn arya joker jack bugs batman

and like 10% of the other matches are diff chars

[mossy hill]

and 1% is the non existance player :a.k.a bottom tier char

[upper wing]

never seen a velma on ranked

not one

[mossy hill]

lmao

i only face 1 velma

AND ITS MIRROR MATCH

[upper wing]

😔

literally AS I SAID THAT i just matched w a velma

yeah i can see why nobody plays her, easy char to adapt to and counter

[whole pond]

Armor killer needs a major rework

[mossy hill]

armor killer?

[whole pond]

It’s one of the perks, and it’s not working at all

I can send lab proof if needed

[mossy hill]

is it the one dash attack or charged attack

oh charged attack

its must be full one

oh not that one

the one stop enemy using their armor

that perk is so bad

cuz the duration is like what

couple sec?

they can just wait it out

[whole pond]

Don’t even have to wait just hit you

[mossy hill]

yep

cant wait for BP 39

[untold pelican]

samurai jack needs more endlag on his attacks. playing arya and finding a hard time getting an opening on him when trying to punish

[pale furnace]

only thing samurai jack needs are fixed hitboxes, sword attacks way longer than its actual reach

[brave otter]

all (top tier) characters need more endlag on wiff in this game

[pale furnace]

but hitboxes in general, are so random in this game

[pale furnace]

lmao i appreciate the change HAHAHAH

[brave otter]

Jacks leg reaches longer than BG spear lol

[pale furnace]

its frustrating ngl

[whole pond]

We don’t need super armor at all it just need to be gone

All the top tier are only top tier because of super armor

Zero skill

[cold yew]

Rick should be able to shoot while crouching. Because its useless against small chars like fin and gizmo.

[worldly grove]

I have to drop some ❤️ on this game the roster is looking great and only getting better. playing different characters makes me appreciate them a lot more when it comes to fighting them and having more fun on the game. everybody plays pretty different which is awesome and it makes it feel really cool to learn them 🙂

[slender bear]

you can only lose lp but not get demoted before gold right?

[pure silo]

i get a network error and due to that i get a matchmaking ban??

[mossy hill]

Welp its happend to me alpt lol

[mossy hill]

Honestly either that perk need reworked or buff

[lofty beacon]

I hope PFG read this

[candid socket]

I beg of you PFG Jason needs to be able to cancel his nair on hit or something

(also if the forward and neutral attacks are gonna be swapped, why is the forward standard locked to the direction you're facing regardless of the direction you input it?)

[quaint gust]

The games busted, I’m watching videos of people getting 20 points a win in platinum per win and only minus 4 per loss

They messed up pretty bad
And the scoreboard is rigged big time.

Destroyed the game for me

[safe perch]

I’m not talking about the damage though, I’m talking about the landing distance of the dash kick, many times since the last two updates, even given a short distance, Batman’s kick won’t register or doesn’t hit an enemy

It’s a joke at this point

[pseudo spear]

every loop should be removed from the game

[kindred stratus]

Tea bagging and the salt emote should be removed from the game

[candid socket]

bad idea to remove crouching LOL

[kindred stratus]

I meant after the match of completed

No but seriously, what is so fun about watching someone spam the salt emote and tea bagging for 5 seconds?

[little heron]

thats dumb to remove it

i dont like it either but thats just how online games are

people are gonna talk crap

[pure silo]

when IG is banned in tourneys why isnt he banned in ranked?

[little heron]

tourney makers have different rules than the devs

[balmy bloom]

Thats what they're doing

[pseudo spear]

it isnt working

[balmy bloom]

Well it is since there are less loops now than before

Thats the definition of working

[mossy hill]

Velma has loop that only work if the enemy doesnt have dodge meter lol

[quaint gust]

lol how are people not mad the ranked point system is broken atm

[sturdy dagger]

Baseball Finn should actually have the eyebrows. I don't even really play the character.

I just think the actual skin should have them and not just be in the icon and artwork. It's just weird to advertise something that isn't there.

[small dove]

Increase the amount of rp given in higher ranks

[little heron]

cant get out of silver cause of these stupid disconnections

thanks PFG

[strong cove]

Please bro ive been stuck in diamond 3 for ages just cause ive been winning 4-10 rp each win and then i lose 7-13 each loss

[shell widget]

i know many complained already but i want to highlight too that the RP gain/loss in ranked matches is very demotivating and unfun. I'm sure there is a better way to do this. i'm not interested in normals or pve, so i'm quitting until this is changed 🤷‍♂️

[strong cove]

Exactly you need a constant win streak to actually rank up in higher ranks its so dumb, and a chunk of the comp players already stopped playing cause of this

[light star]

I gotta question why are their like a 50 arya masters

and like 500 diamond aryas

like is that normal?

[balmy bloom]

Make parrying easier I guess

Just by a little

So its not too easy

But rn its kinda way too hard

[coral bolt]

I'll have to agree with this one. Parrying in Rivals of Aether takes skill, but the window to parry is still fair and it feels rewarding. Parrying in multiversus is next to impossible and doesn't feel as rewarding as in Rivals.

[fleet garnet]

Solo 2v2 ranked feels pretty awful due to team mates queueing up with a character they dont play at an MMR from their main character. This should be removed.

[fleet garnet]

Perhaps make it so you cant play ranked with a character under a certain level. That would make it better

[sharp fjord]

I wish they were more transparent

[distant parrot]

is winning fixed to +6 at max on diamond and above?

why do i lose double what i win

i can have 66% winrate and still be losing more than im gaining

[scarlet shore]

I actually hope these devs lose it all

And i do mean all

How tf on gods green earth would u buff ww and nerf jason istg aids is not contagious enough for these brainrotted dumbell shaped skull having mfers

Im done im not playing this game until they nerf literally everyone else and buf jason 10x more than they nerfed velma in between beta and release

To tony i hope every hair product on earth doesnt help grow your hair back in fact i hope it creates a skin infection that rots that disgusting skin dome off your fat head

[chrome ravine]

Please oh please give us some sort of sorting or filtering system in the fighter menu. We get so many challenges that require specific types of cosmetics or specific classes and things so it can be extremely tiring to go dig through each character to know what fits what requirements

[sour ruin]

PLZ FIX THE HITBOXES, THEY ARE HORRIBLE, PLZ

[tidal swan]

They definitely need to adjust how much is lost when you lose. It doesn’t make it fun but more frustrating

[lofty beacon]

Ong

It’s already a struggle enough to get outta bronze, but losing twice legit takes you back down too far

[shadow prairie]

A player should never rank down when they are winning 70% of their games. Yet it happens a bunch when you get into higher ranks. I won 3 in a row then lost one and my total amount was down from before

It’s actually insane

[broken storm]

i mean it felt like ur toxic weirdo but damn this is new to me XD

[shadow prairie]

I know it’s based on hidden mmr but that makes no sense to me personally. If someone is ranked properly they should be winning about 50% of their games. So why make it harder for someone to actually get to the point where they’re in the right rank? I get hidden mmr having some effect on how many points you get but winning 4 points and losing 16 should NEVER happen

It just feels to me like the devs made the ranked ladder more of a challenge mode where you wanna get to higher levels to brag, rather than a way of actually ranking players in the right spot to give them a fun and competitive experience

[broken storm]

i have not reached dimaond yet but ive seen some youtubers who are still gaining +15 losing 4 at high elo

it could be also that if ur losing more than winning that the mmr throwing u vs a lower ranked so u gain a win but that causing u to lose more if ur losing to them and win less if ur winning

same as any other rank system cuz league has the same thing if u lose alot u ruin ur mmr and they dont count ur account as smurf account so u start playing in lower elo and u gain as much as u lose

[scarlet shore]

U have no idea

[shadow prairie]

I’m sorry but this is incomprehensible

[broken storm]

and since in early ranks this game is a joke cuz u lose 3 and u win 25 it could be alot of bad players reaching like plat but they have 30% wr cuz it is doable with 30% wr

[shadow prairie]

I kinda know what you’re saying but the words make no sense

[scarlet shore]

When u get to plat 1 and diamond 5 u lose 10-16 per match and gain only about 4-8 when u win

Game becomes unplayable unless ur a top tier like tom harley ww giant joker etc

[broken storm]

it does but we cant be sure cuz we dont have the data anyway how much is ur wr ?

[shadow prairie]

If this stuff is the case thought then it shouldn’t be as extreme. All my games are almost 50/50

My wr last night was 70%

[scarlet shore]

Have fun getting to masters with velma ur only hope is that u fight people who didnt know velma was in the game

[broken storm]

hmmm well then yes this doesnt make sense at all

there is an overall wr btw check that

[shadow prairie]

Ok I’m not on rn but I will

[broken storm]

i have 60% overall and i am in gold 1 still

[broken storm]

if u have 50% overall or less then yea its the mmr and u ruined it

[shadow prairie]

I definitely don’t have less than 50% overall

[broken storm]

cuz again ive seen youtubers who are still gaining 15 and losing 4 at masters but these guys have 70% wr +

[shadow prairie]

I’m consistently with a 60% I check whenever I play

YouTubers represent a tiny tiny tiny fraction of the player base

[broken storm]

so they are facing masters players 80% of the time cuz their mmr is high

[stiff swallow]

Why do blocked players still get matched up with me? What's the point of blocking laggy players on wi-fi if they still get matchmade with me?

[scarlet shore]

No fault of ur own u could have skill pouring from your face and you still will lose

[broken storm]

like right now i am in gold 1 but i have 60% wr overall there is times where i am facing plat 4 or plat 1 and i am sure if these guys are beating me they are getting 10 or 12 but if i beat them its +15 and i am sure once i reach plat which is what my mmr seems like think i am, i am gonna start gaining less unless i start winning more

[scarlet shore]

Good question because these devs need to drink their daily dose of brain rot soda (bounty laundry detergent

[stiff swallow]

are you 12

[broken storm]

there is no point talking with this weirdo XD

[foggy ether]

I’ve had 59% in Diamond/Plat but I keep dropping from Diamond, I think I’m at 56% now

It just feels like you lose way more than what you earn

[scarlet shore]

Good luck dawg its impossible

[broken storm]

well i mean we gave so much feed back by now i guess they are seeing this and we will see what their take on that, tbh the whole rank system is dumb idk why they didnt go with normal ranked an overall ranked instead of characters rank

[foggy ether]

I get a army of Finns and to survive that 3 hit combo zero to death is so difficult every single match

[broken storm]

just DI to the left if he is on the right or DI to the right if he is on the left

[foggy ether]

And a lot of Finns use Airwalker now which is demonic lol

[scarlet shore]

An army of finns** also yeah i feel u who do u main

[foggy ether]

I’ll try but it always manages to hit most of time.
I’ve noticed it’s the neutral air kick he does that sends me to the edge of screen it has way too much knockback

[broken storm]

doing a characters ranked not only mess the mmr and LP gains but also everytime u change character it reset the progress is just not fun to do and we still dont know who is the best at the game cuz its not an overall ranked

[fathom kelp]

Buff Marvin

[foggy ether]

Characters rank is fine, it’s been done before like in Smash Bros Ultimate, they just need to make adjustments

[broken storm]

it is the kick but this kick is not true combo after up normal unless ur at 30 dmg and even then it might not be true i have not test it and u should start doing the DI after his kick and the up special wont hit u can lab that tho

[lofty beacon]

Buff Marvin? God no, he’s already a pain as is

[fathom kelp]

struggling against marvin is a skill issue dude

marvin sucks

not even downplaying

[broken storm]

idk i dont like it cuz i wanna change characters without reseting my progress

[brisk coyote]

didnt this used to be a bunch of threads

[foggy ether]

Jason, but I’ve been playing Samurai Jack because I’ve waited for him so long

[lofty beacon]

Not if they all zoning and waiting for whiff when I play Garnet

Or anyone without a projectile

[foggy ether]

They can fix this issue by having both. Overall rank and character rank

Just an option

[broken storm]

???? in what world is ur character weak ? XD

[scarlet shore]

Give up on jason until they buff him

They have overall rank

[lofty beacon]

That’s what I’m saying? There are no bad Marvin players

[broken storm]

true yea that would be fun

[brisk coyote]

i think there needs to be a slight ranked rework

[light star]

no because all people gone do is use broken characters to climb rank then switch to their main acting like that was who they climbed with

[foggy ether]

I kinda did. His hurtbox is so big it’s even worse on him.
But yeah been playing Samurai Jack

[brisk coyote]

there have been multiple times where i'll get 2 ringouts and the other person will get 3 but it's still counted the same as 0-3

[scarlet shore]

Im doing that because i have an excuse

[broken storm]

well if like what IGOLDENKNIGHT said if they can add both characters ranks and overall ranks u can tell with who they grinded with

[brisk coyote]

plus if you win you still get bronze v anyway and every win only gives you 20 rp

[scarlet shore]

Yeah jason literally has nothing going for him

[brisk coyote]

so minimum 25 matches to get to silver

[split robin]

Hey it’s kinda a small thing, but I really appreciate that we got a couple characters we can unlock with Event Rewards (medals). I started at launch and having the option to pick up some fighters that I wouldn’t normally have chosen to use my Fighter Currency is really nice

[brisk coyote]

and thats if you win all of them

[shadow prairie]

Is my hidden mmr based on a combined we from every character or just as the one I’m playing at the time

[light star]

I respect this part

[foggy ether]

He’s definitely not “weak” he hits hard, but he’s slow, and has a hurtbox that feels as big as IG lol and he has like no armor and doesn’t feel like a tank. They need him to feel like a tank

[fathom kelp]

marvin isnt weak!?? LOOL

[foggy ether]

Maybe armor on dash attack lol that’s tanky hahaha

[broken storm]

well thats the thing and thats what i am saying with how much bad is the characters rank system, but these youtubers are mostly 1 tricks like verflied or bhands these guys are rick 1 trick and morty 1 trick so they are for now only masters with their mains so we dont know if that effect the mmr or not sofar

[fathom kelp]

Never ever struggled against marvin

[foggy ether]

I totally agree!

[broken storm]

i can right now and i mean right now buy him and beat u with him but u dont play him

[fathom kelp]

Please do

drop ur tag

[broken storm]

ok hop in

[lofty beacon]

lol

[shadow prairie]

Can you please use punctuation because everything you say is impossible to decipher when it’s all one sentence. Also, if you’re basing everything you say off of data you seen from 23 Youtubers it’s gonna be incorrect. Two or three guys don’t represent the entire player bases experience.

[broken storm]

ohhh i cant buy him cuz idk why he is locked behind the medal system -_-

[fathom kelp]

😂

You can buy him with fighter currency

[scarlet shore]

Jason cant tank hits jason cant kill reliably like others can jason cant recover at all jason cant dodge anything jasons grabs dont even work half the time jasons "disjoints" are non existent he literally is worse than brawl ganondorf

[fathom kelp]

go to the character store

[broken storm]

ik i am not saying that what i am saying is true, i am just saying off what ive seen, it could be all wrong

[scarlet shore]

He is the worst character in platform fighting game history

[foggy ether]

PFG DEVS

The Olympic event to earn medals and rewards has been one of your best yet.
The fact that I can purchase a whole character with one these medals is awesome and is exactly what players want and helps get newer players even more.

[broken storm]

oh yea i found that i bought em

[foggy ether]

Well he does have a kill confirm thank goodness. It’s his jab jab side b. That’s it.
Funny enough Samurai Jack has no kill confirm

[scarlet shore]

Jab jab side b doesnt even kill at ledge earlier than shaggy knee

[foggy ether]

Well… that’s shaggy

[scarlet shore]

Again i didnt kill that shaggy with jab jab side b until 115

[fathom kelp]

drop ur tag

[broken storm]

i send u in private go

[foggy ether]

Yeah that’s bad.

[broken storm]

where are u i bought the character dont make it for nothing XD

[scarlet shore]

Yeah this is why ive been saying if u lose to jason as anyone but jason u suck and u should uninstall the game and never play games again

And if u beat jason and u taunt u must feel good about being able to crack your knuckles cause there is no big achievement in beating jason

Its harder to last 5 seconds in subway surfers than it is to beat jason

[lofty beacon]

lol

[foggy ether]

Lololol

What about Velma?

[scarlet shore]

Velma sux but not nearly as bad as jason

She can run circles around jason if ur good enough

[foggy ether]

I lost to a Velma once, she took a photo of me then had an idea then I died

Jason is thick that’s why. Boy is big. But they gotta make him tanky. I feel like he big just to get hit and be slow because he hit hard

They forgot the “tank” part

[lofty beacon]

Oh 100%

[scarlet shore]

Yeah y u think i said he cant dodge anything

99.99% of the time if jason dodges and it says dodge guess what hes gonna be hit by it

[foggy ether]

Duuuuude this! Like… it’s already hard to escape. Tom n Jerry paddle, Finn backpack, etc… but with Jason… oh it’s so bad

It says “dodged” even when I’m other characters I still get hit. But Jason is like peak worst

When it comes to that

Because his hurtbox even bigger

[scarlet shore]

Jason cant dodge any side combo or multihit dash attack

U want my idea for buffing jason its very simple

[foggy ether]

He need armor

[scarlet shore]

1stly Make it so his neutral special armor has 0 cooldown and no armor break moves can break it in 1 hit anymore 2ndly make his limbs invulnerable on all of his weapon attacks so he has ooh idk ACTUAL DISJOINTS 3rdly make his teleport invincible on startup and lastly make his grabs be able to grab multiple people and make his neutral special grab in the air have armor during the move like jack gets seeing as jack copied it and made it 5x better

Thats how u buff jason n u dont even need to touch his perks

If u wanna buff a perk make it so ressurectionist doesnt kill you after a period of time since he comes back at the same health

[foggy ether]

Jason Rage needs tweaking/rework

It lasts only for one hit
You earn as much grey health as you charge but most moves can cut through that grey health
You also sacrifice your actual health and take damage for using it
You do become faster but at this time players camp it out

It just doesn’t feel worth it as much as it should.

[foggy ether]

I like these! These aren’t that bad at all.
Very reasonable.
And I find it hilarious how true that Jack has armor in his graaab!!! Hahahaha but Jason doesn’t! 😂

Jason needs MORE ARMOR

He’s a tank! Come on PFG make him a real tank

[scarlet shore]

I swear i dont know what pay us first games was smoking when they made jasons armor break in 1 hit be on cooldown and hurt jason

Its literally a useless crutch that we have to use

Or else we lose

[foggy ether]

Oh yeah I forgot to write that, it even has Cooldown..
I was trying to list all the draw backs of the move. There’s more negative than positive and nots even worth it

[scarlet shore]

Not to mention there is a perk that makes armor useless so why

Why would they make it so garbage

[foggy ether]

I know why. To me, it looks very clear that they were really afraid of making Jason broken. So limited that move so hard that it ended up being bad

And that’s JUST that one move. He can improve in other ways too

Like we said

Now that the game has been out, we know yeah, Jason hits hard, but he needs adjustments. He’s not even top 5.
I don’t care if hidden statistics say he wins most matches, he needs armor regardless.
Tweaking to his moves, hurtbox, hitbox. And really need to look at that Rage.

I think fixing Rage will do a TON for Jason

[fathom kelp]

spanked u

[foggy ether]

Even if they had to nerf damage on some moves I don’t care, he deserves armor and tank-ness

PFG DEVS

The Olympic event to earn medals and rewards has been one of your best yet.
The fact that I can purchase a whole character with one these medals is awesome and is exactly what players want and helps get newer players even more.

[scarlet shore]

What hidden statistics so i can laugh at em

[foggy ether]

Oh it’s because I know they have that info. Devs always do

[scarlet shore]

Man lots of people need to uninstall then cause they suck

[olive mesa]

I have 2 medals and I don’t want any of the rewards from that shop

[foggy ether]

Well devs don’t reveal everything. They take player feedback and look at stats

[foggy ether]

Did you get all characters yet?

[olive mesa]

No, I really don’t want to waste a medal on something I can buy with a fighter currency

[foggy ether]

You should because it’s basically a character ticket if you ever heard of those

[worldly tree]

Samurai Jack is op af and needs to be nerfed: debate me

Samurai Jack is op af and needs to be nerfed: debate me

Samurai Jack is op af and needs to be nerfed: debate me

[olive mesa]

Dude shut the funk up

[scarlet shore]

Marvin needs to have his up attack on cooldown

Nobody is gonna debate you for being right

[scarlet shore]

Devs must need glasses if they havent seen the rallying cries of every jason main on the planet

[olive mesa]

I’m pretty sure they gave up on reading this chat.

[foggy ether]

Samurai Jack is low tier fight me

[foggy ether]

They get info from it. How much I don’t know

[sharp fjord]

PLEASE GIVE JERRY A FKN COOLDOWN

AND MAKE IT SO JERRY CAN'T FKN STUN US

[foggy ether]

The mouse does though

[sharp fjord]

OR AT LEAST MAKE JERRY EASIER TO KILL

[foggy ether]

You gotta find the move your character has to one shot that mouse haha

[sharp fjord]

none

[foggy ether]

?

[sharp fjord]

There's no 1 hitkill on jerry or safe anymore

[olive mesa]

Eh, I mean we pretty much just crap on the game and trash talk characters. Can’t imagine a dev reading this chat without feeling some sort of dread

[sharp fjord]

only as Giant Rick if I land my dash attack in the very first second

[foggy ether]

What character you using bro? There’s always a one shot

[sharp fjord]

no, there's not, especially because not every character has an armor breaker

[scarlet shore]

Yeah rick has no good ways of doing it

Im pretty sure every character has one

Armor break doesnt kill jerry tho

[sharp fjord]

even with the perk, it doesn't work unless I hit jerry as giant rick with dash attack with perk

[scarlet shore]

He has health

Too much health if u ask me

[foggy ether]

Oh, well you’re using your common sense there! The vast majority didn’t even take the time to realize that.

[sharp fjord]

it's stupid, he needs 3 hits to die, but we can't hit him fast enough... as soon as Tom launches Jerry, he'll throw a bunch of balls your way and rush to recover jerry, to just launch Jerry again

there's no counterplay

Jerry just does too fkn much for no cooldown

Jerry is the most powerful projectile in the game, he can give Tom more projectiles, he can stun you

and he doesn't die

it's stupid

it's like not giving Bugs safe a cooldown

[foggy ether]

Jerry dies pretty fast when you find out what kills em.
Maybe charge jab if your Rick?

[sharp fjord]

there's no time for that!

there are 3 balls coming your way and Tom dashing

there's no time for charging attacks

[foggy ether]

What about a Meeseeks?

[sharp fjord]

only hits once

does nothing

[foggy ether]

Fart bomb?

[sharp fjord]

the fact is that Jerry needs less HP or a cooldown before throwing or recovering him

[foggy ether]

No it could just mean Rick needs a buff to one of his attacks.
It doesn’t always mean NERF.
Sometimes it means BUFF

If Rick doesn’t have single move that kills Jerry, maybe Rick deserves a buff to one of his attacks bruh

[scarlet shore]

Tbh it means both

Nerf and buff

I dont think people with souls would be upset if tom got nerfed

[foggy ether]

Well we talking about Jerry ha

[scarlet shore]

Oh i wasnt i was talkin both lmao

[foggy ether]

Or wait who’s the mouse lol

[scarlet shore]

No u were talkin the rat

[foggy ether]

Yeah we talking about the rat

[sharp fjord]

Jerry is 100% being abused

they actually need to do something about the spamfest this game is becoming

[foggy ether]

That sounds

[sharp fjord]

and it's not too big of a deal making jerry die in 2 hits instead of 3

or giving it a cooldown until Tom can recover jerry again

like 5 seconds

[indigo gorge]

It Jerry hp just how many hits he takes? Or is it actually damage based hp?

[sharp fjord]

3 hits, like Bugs safe

[foggy ether]

Well hey, I would lab it out. Add me I could help.
If you can’t find a move with Rick to kill the mouse. Then there’s talks to get a buff

[indigo gorge]

Ugh. But bugs safe also breaks on purple attacks but Jerry doesn't die to them instantly

[foggy ether]

He’s got hp

[sharp fjord]

oh, Rick definetely needs buffs... He's the hardest character to play, he trades in every single move, except for the Whip, which he loses if someone hits it, and flying meeseeks, the only Rick attack that wins trades

[indigo gorge]

I've been stuck playing tom and Jerry, mortys and samurai Jack's on repeat.

[indigo gorge]

Yeah he needs some tuning

[sharp fjord]

his air side special has huge start up and tiny cooldown, which sucks because he has no other side attack option in the air

[foggy ether]

Thrown in Finn and Batman and that’s what I got

[sharp fjord]

portal is super inconsistent,

I could write an essay about it

[scarlet shore]

I love beating down special spamming ratmen to death

[indigo gorge]

I think a good starting place is too make his pistol shots bigger and last an extra second.

That will help portals and maybe help set up combos.

[sharp fjord]

Morty is just straight up annoying to fight... it's not even because it's hard, but it's just too sweaty

and Morty is supposed to be a fkn bruiser, but he plays more like a mage than Bugs and Rick

[foggy ether]

I would definitely talk about these things more.
Because you obviously have experience with your character.
List things out and make an argument on how and why something should be Buffed.
This is way more better than yelling for Nerfs

[indigo gorge]

He needs endlag on the rock move

[sharp fjord]

they did that this patch... it's not enough... dirt needs a cooldown, period

[lofty beacon]

SAY IT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK😤😤🫡

[foggy ether]

Although I do agree that Tom n Jerry Paddle loop is very hard to escape and should be looked at by Devs

[sharp fjord]

I would love to, but I honestly don't think they listen

[foggy ether]

I Personally Believe, that if this thread had more “BUFF ——“ it would get more attention

[sharp fjord]

I'll try

[foggy ether]

Everyone needs to dig deep into there character.
And find out what there struggling with, and find a different perspective.
Instead of saying “dang that character needs to be nerfed”
We need to think “how can my character be buffed?” To help in those frustrating situations

And I almost guarantee the Devs will look at that more than “NERF —-“

[scarlet shore]

I think im gonna have to start using the armor disable perk

Supermanlets are beyond obnoxious

[foggy ether]

Because this is “GAME FEEDBACK”

They want to hear thoughtful criticism, and love to see when players actually know their characters and thought of ways how to make something better instead of nerfing. It helps them! Because you actually gave them an idea!
Way better than just saying
“NERF —— Broken!”

[indigo gorge]

I'm sick of trading hits on them with Jason's grabs, for some reason sups flight grab just overwrites any attack that's not a projectile.

[foggy ether]

Who do you play?

[scarlet shore]

Ikr

[indigo gorge]

Jason, garnet and reindog.

[worn oracle]

Samurai jacks dash feels like it needs to be tweaked. The range on his side dash is too long, players will just spam it over and over again and its harder to deal with especially in 2v2.

[foggy ether]

Dang. Yeah that’s buff town right there. Feel ya on that one.
That machete like a hurtbox

Again this is “GAME FEEDBACK”

They want to hear thoughtful criticism, and love to see when players actually know their characters and thought of ways how to make something better instead of nerfing. It helps them! Because you actually gave them an idea!
Way better than just saying
“NERF —— Broken!”

[sharp fjord]

it wasn't ready

my cat pressed enter --'

[foggy ether]

THIS! Now THAT looks awesome!

[sharp fjord]

there's more

[foggy ether]

Ah

[worn oracle]

Game feedback is exactly that, feedback about the game. There isn't a guideline to this, people can comment what they see fit.

[sturdy dagger]

I like when supposed light characters just don't die at over a hundred to moves that have strong knockback. Why. Why are killing moves not consistent?

[quaint gust]

Put images in clips of ranked being a rigged joke

[indigo gorge]

If I was to recommend a fix on each I'd say
. Make Jason's hand hurt box smaller and increase the range of his dodge.
. Reindogs air momentum feels kinda funky at times, they should make his horizontal momentum in the air build faster to compensate for his close range attacks and massive hurtbox.

. Garnet is too big like she's just too big, her attacks don't work since she's too big in proportion to her gloves. shrink the body grow the gloves and tweak her jabs, nobody likes the multi hit jabs its just not fun bin it and do anything else.

[quaint gust]

I Put images in clips of ranked being a rigged joke

[sharp fjord]

What Rick needs to reach his potential:

Rick is a lot of fun to play, but he's certainly one of the hardest characters to master.

• All of Rick's moves trade, except for the Whip, which actually loses all trades (if an enemy hits your whip, you're hit, they're not), and Rick's only move that wins trades is Flying Meeseeks; He needs more priority in his moves

• Fart bomb is probably the least used move in the game; some say it CAN be used in guarding the edge, but it sends people upwards, not downwards, so...

• Rick's second jab takes too long to come out, so it's super easy to punish him, and the third jab doesn't connect way too often... It's a jab, jab, jab combo, should be more reliable;

• Portal combos are very hard to execute on lighter characters, it could be made more reliable as well. At least make it more consistent where the enemy is placed after they're teleported. This move is his bread and butter and has a very long cooldown... Make it worth it.

• His dash attack should be able to block projectiles and have higher priority... It's a damn Plasma Wall, and it only trades, and it doesn't break armor nor blocks projectiles... It's a HUGE hurtbox that does nothing good;

• His air side special has a very long start-up and small hitbox, and it trades everytime... It's our only option for side attacks in the air most of the time... Make it more reliable.

I think that's it. This would make Rick S-Tier, like many of the cast.

I wish they saw this

[scarlet shore]

Very stupid that u think dash attacks should auto break armor there is a perk for that bro

Other than that and fart bomb i agree

[sharp fjord]

the fact is that Rick has no armor breaker

giving that giant hurtbox some purpose would be nice

[scarlet shore]

Use the armor destroying perks bro u wont be dissatisfied

[sharp fjord]

I do use it, but look how active it is

[scarlet shore]

Also id prefer if ricks side air stayed bad

[light star]

he alr kills in two hits LMAO

[scarlet shore]

It was op in beta

[sharp fjord]

it's his only option in the air

[scarlet shore]

Do u di towards the blastzone or do y get jumpscared and drop ur controller

Cause u gotta be the worst player in the world to die to jason in 2 hits

[sharp fjord]

dude, stop with the aggressive bs

calling people stupid, worst player

wtf

[scarlet shore]

Never called u stupid called ur thoughts stupid

[ebon swift]

Feedback for Samurai Jack’s side special is to have the player receive knockback on clash. I think this is what makes it too safe to use especially for the extended version where it zips back and forth.

[light star]

the fact jack can start up the side special again if u tried to punish him for it is kinda insane

[sharp fjord]

he's too safe in most everything 😐

[light star]

on the right map two kills kinda possible

all it take is a good read

[worn oracle]

exactly I agree

[light star]

theirs no such thing as a guranteed two hits tho

that would be different

[scarlet shore]

If ur being that readable and like i said if di right into the blastzone then yes u can die to jason in 2 hits

Same can be said for the entire cast

[light star]

thats how jason works tho

his goal is to get u on the edge

for the horizontal kill

[scarlet shore]

Dawg if shaggy lives slash slash teleport at the ledge at 95 ur actually not even trying to di

Ur trying to die

[light star]

oh nah you not gone die everytime

LMAO i better live

jason in a decent spot tho

[craggy surge]

Sorry to interrupt, but, is anyone else haying any issues regardless the servers? I'm loosing lots of matches cuz' my characters are walking off stage

[foggy ether]

He needs adjustments and some armor because he just isn’t a Tank

[light star]

i kinda agree

even tho his hit power is great

superman makes him look bad

[foggy ether]

Two hits only if there like in air

But that’s with anyone honestly

Because those blastzone be so close

[ebon swift]

Yes. It happens from time to time for me, but there have been quite a few reports of this

[light star]

alot of people jump into the air tbh

always gone happen

but he needs sum adjustment but at the same time everybody has superarmor that u can hit off tho

[sharp fjord]

I just think Jason gets way too much reward for a simple jab, jab, teleport

[foggy ether]

True. Probably not smart to be above him then

[foggy ether]

It’s his only kill confirm

Every character needs at least one in my opinion

Kinda like when Rick does the portal combo into jet pack

[sharp fjord]

not true... His air side attack is also strong af

bed too

up attacks

[scarlet shore]

U must be stuck in bronze

[light star]

he jus a decent character

[foggy ether]

Naw what I mean by kill confirm is a hit that leads to another hit into death, so like a combo. Not a read

[scarlet shore]

Im sure if there was anything lower than bronze youd be stuck there

[light star]

diamond 1

[scarlet shore]

Then u dont play jason

[light star]

my friend and I play each other everyday

[scarlet shore]

Relevance

[light star]

if he read me right u can win everytime

thats how all the characters work

for the most part

good and bad

[foggy ether]

Reads are earned, hence it’s a read

[light star]

reads supposed to be earned

we cant be getting free hit around here lol

[foggy ether]

Exactly

I’m just saying we can’t say “Jason Ace does too much damage” or something because move like that are for reads

[olive mesa]

Can PFG get off their butts and fix the report. It seems like they endorse lag switchers and bots since they haven’t fixed it and it’s been down since S1

[foggy ether]

If your talking about that thing when we walk off stage I think that’s a server problem

If you are

Lag switchers are nasty

[olive mesa]

No, literally bots and extreme lag during certain times that benefits my opponent

[scarlet shore]

Ok if u havent played jason on ranked u have no right to speak on the subject

For context i just fought a morty on townsville thats why ive been gone beat his 14 year old face into the concrete

[foggy ether]

I’ve had the walk off stage thing happen and it lasted like 2 seconds for the end of match. All it took for opponent to win

[olive mesa]

I feel like Jack in that one episode where he just keeps getting attacked by bounty hunters

[foggy ether]

One of my Favs!!!

[olive mesa]

Honestly I hope we get a Mad Jack skin with the crazy hair

[sharp fjord]

He's not a combo character, he doesn't need it

He kills people at 80 midscreen with jab, jab, teleport

what else does he need

[light star]

all u got to do is stay patient

[foggy ether]

He got combos though

[light star]

@scarlet shore my friend can teach u how to play him

[foggy ether]

He need armor, because of multiple em reasons

[sharp fjord]

he has armor

[foggy ether]

Where?

[sharp fjord]

that red fire thingy

[foggy ether]

Oh the Rage?

[sharp fjord]

yes

it prevents the next cc on you

[foggy ether]

Rage is actually bad. I’ve played Jason enough to experience that armor being useless. Like characters just slash through it.
Did you know you sacrifice health to even get it?

[scarlet shore]

Yeah im not taking handouts from someone whos friends with someone who copes this hard

[sharp fjord]

it's great for guarding the edge with a big axe

[foggy ether]

It could be! Only if the other player jumps straight into it or is right there at that spot on ledge. Which basically every character can do. Like Rick fart bomb which is good on ledge but everything good don’t need nerf

[light star]

why not he got like 120 hours on jason

what rank u is?

[cinder sable]

Bruh +10rp for a win, -9 for a loss…. How tf we actually supposed to climb ladder with that trash

[scarlet shore]

I have over 300 try again and because ur plat 1 dont mean nothing unless ur playing a bottom tier like jason plat 1 is easy diamond is slightly hard for top tiers and masters r exactly as their named

[hollow dome]

This is not true

[foggy ether]

I’ve said same thing… just in a different way lol

[scarlet shore]

My jason is level 21

[hollow dome]

The ranked system is broken and doesn’t matchmake based on ranks

It ranks based on mmr

[sharp fjord]

I don't think fart bomb is good, honestly... It brings people upwards, when I want to send them down

[hollow dome]

Gold players can be ranked with masters if their mmr is high

[olive mesa]

Please PFG, fix your garbage game, I need to get to master without dying of a brain aneurysm

[hollow dome]

If you have high mmr it essentially makes every rank just as difficult except you get more for winning at lower ranks

Which should be changed

Mmr based matchmaking for ranked makes no sense

Maybe having it for like a week to make it harder for newbies to get matched with gods sure but at this point it serves no purpose

[foggy ether]

What? Bro you know how Ricks have sent me up with Fart Bomb into down air? It’s a kill confirm. Kill confirm is a combo that kills.

Basically

[sharp fjord]

I'll experiment with it

[foggy ether]

Dude you should! Ricks decked out in there Mech skin be killing me so hard but I’m not complaining! They deserve it

[light star]

so explain how jasons are moving to the top 100

[foggy ether]

I just think that jab is nuts but it’s ok lololol

[foggy ether]

Pretty sure they getting those reads because there really ain’t no other way

[scarlet shore]

Because they are lucky and better than me im currently in the top 25 jasons and its impossible for me to go further

[foggy ether]

Just dumb decisions by players given their stocks

[hollow dome]

Its not impossible for you to go further

You can do better if you understand why you are losing and work to fix your mistakes

[scarlet shore]

Unless i feel like playing 1000 hours to rank up 1x because of just how hard countered jason gets by every top tier or the fact that everyone camps jason yeah its impossible and this pointless arguement wont be going much further

[hollow dome]

I am the rank 4 jason and have a 65% winrate

You can do it

[scarlet shore]

I have a 56% win rate with over 600 matches in jasons ranked alone

Its too frustrating until they buff him i refuse

[light star]

he jus gotta adjust his gameplay

[hollow dome]

Well thats ok

[sharp fjord]

seriously, I can't stand fighting more jacks in ranked

it's unbearable

[hollow dome]

If you find it frustrating you don’t have to but you can do it if you focus and adjust to your mistakes

[light star]

bro nah frrr

its lowkey boring

like are their other characters

?

[hollow dome]

He has problems but it’s not impossible to win and do well

[light star]

LMAO

[light star]

theirs way to many aryas in diamond

[hollow dome]

Arya is annoying

You can win but its hard

[light star]

yea like the diffciulty on intermediate with them

[hollow dome]

She has to get nerfed next patch there’s no way

[scarlet shore]

Can u agree wit me on this much at least

If ur fighting a jason as anyone else but jason and u lose ur bad and u should feel bad

[sharp fjord]

all jacks top 100 are diamond+

[hollow dome]

Well

[scarlet shore]

The only matchup in the game that jason has a 50 50 on is himself

Everyone else even if its by 51 49 are better than jaspn

Jason*

[hollow dome]

If you want to play as a character and you know the weaknesses they have it’s a bit redundant to complain

Jason is also not that bad

He has problems but characters like velma are far wose

[scarlet shore]

Velma is not much better than jason but i think velma is better only slightly l

[sharp fjord]

jason is very good right now, I don't understand the complaining... jab, jab, teleport kills people at 80, his jab is pretty decent

[scarlet shore]

If u die to jab jab teleport at 80 ur either playing a light character or youve never heard of di or youre playing on a poorly designed stage aka dexters lab

[light star]

its suppose to be like dat

if u dont DI against sum thing it would be pointless to have it in the game

[sharp fjord]

you can't DI out of jab, jab teleport

[scarlet shore]

Wow i really am talking to npcs

Dawg do you hold towards the blastzone

Or do u hold in on that combo like you should

I refuse to believe a1 is out of bronze

[light star]

what is it u tryna get us to understand

[light star]

shid if u use arya or samurai jack youll be in diamond by next week with sum good training

[scarlet shore]

Nah id rather continue my normal anti hero arc by spamming people out with giant and giving every jason i find a free win with a big hug from the giant

Also if u dont understand it u gon have to gimme a bit to study the language of cavemen because i literally layed it out as flat as a brick

[light star]

whats your suggestions on it?

make him skinny?

LMAO

[cyan roost]

NERF RICK, IS RIDICULOUS

[sharp fjord]

????

[light star]

u got beat by a rick too huh?

[sharp fjord]

What were you playing?

[cyan roost]

air neutral is ridiculous

[sharp fjord]

air neutral special? air meeseeks?

seriously, these hits through the ground are frustrating af

[lofty beacon]

What’s the point of disjointed hit boxes again?

[faint dragon]

Why do I get +20 for a win in silver and -13 for a loss

[fresh stag]

Yo the new finn skin is missing his eyebrows

Hope y’all fix that soooon

[feral shadow]

he has them but only when he has eyebrows. in his idle animation his eyebrows disappear

[junior grove]

nerfed jackes side cut

[fresh stag]

Seems like a bug

[junior grove]

Let me be able to dodge and parry jacks side cut I'm tired of jumping over it

It's now the new spam ability

I know because I bought him just to do the same and it's unstoppable

[scarlet shore]

Can yall please buff gizmo a lil bit and put umbrella on a massive cooldown so its not all gizmos do after shooting an arrow

In fact remove gizmo

Please and thank you

[junior grove]

stop crying

[olive mesa]

Server quality is so fun-king garbage

Literally connected to Ethernet and the game disconnects me

[finite wigeon]

If you get forced D/C by the game you shouldn't be forced to wait to queue again ( Ethernet connecting and no problem in any other game)

[last plaza]

Can you buff jason because this to much craziness going on that I don't understand. Jason often gets hit from behind on certain moves, his attacks barely connect, hotbox/range is a little
Small compared to others like for example joker. Joker side tilt attacks for some reason it's fish has better range than jason. If I'm wrong then my bad. And it's crazy how characters that aren't even tanks have Armored moves meanwhile the only thing jason has is his neutral special to give him Armour. Just overall buff jason, doesn't have to be a top tier, just better to play with.

Edit: attacks are also a little slow but it's jason so not rlly that surprising I guess

[olive mesa]

Oh and now they banned me because they can’t make functional servers. God I need a drink

[finite wigeon]

I have to wait 15min before i can queue again, why? because of bad a freeze D/C. that just feels like you want me to drop the game. punishing me for YOUR FAILURE TO CODE CORRECTLY? WTF

[scarlet shore]

Ikr

[light star]

well i officially disabled crossplay today u cheating pc lag switchers officially can paly your own

[scarlet shore]

I feel u

[light star]

bro I literally two stocked a morty then on the last life he fried my router for 45 seconds

[scarlet shore]

I play pc its like every 10-15 matches i get the most degenerate pieces of filth

[olive mesa]

I don’t even care about ranked, I don’t want to play against cringe characters like Morty, Marvin, T&J, and Finn. I just want the ranked skins but I have to deal with PFG’s incompetence

It’s really embarrassing how the quality of online is and then PFG decided to release ranked anyway.

[scarlet shore]

Yeap

U hit that nail on the head

Put it in a coffin

And etched pay us first games into it

[olive mesa]

Don’t even get me started on the bot crap, perfect dodges, near perfect accuracy, and they don’t care. They haven’t fixed the report button and it’s been down since like the last few weeks of S1

[scarlet shore]

For me its been down only since season 2 started

[light star]

@scarlet shore

u wanna see a lag switch god?

I see one on the leaderboard

[olive mesa]

I’m loading it now, who is it?

[light star]

alright load up the black adam column

look at eternal jobber

look at his winrate

and how many they lost by

then look at the number one and number two black adam

and see what u see

this morning eternal jobber was at 2,200 and two hours later he jumped to 2,900

thats insane work

(I wouldnt have knew if I wasent rank stalking my self to see where im at)

[scarlet shore]

R u shocked

Y do u think im so angry bout this game all the time

I want this game to be good but its barely passable

U got problems like this n balancing n server issues n lame battlepasses n characters locked behind battlepasses n players who need to not only shower but touch something that aint plastic n devs who go quiet for days and weeks on end that piles up into a big ol middle finger to anyone who wants this game to do better yk its bad when i was gonna update my steam review but i refuse

[light star]

yea bro im slowly losing motivation this was my last day actually trying to enjoy the game. probably wont be on here like that fr fr

time to play sum else

[olive mesa]

I really don’t want to do the “can’t beat em, join em” because I don’t want to get perma banned, but I literally cannot fun-king compete

[scarlet shore]

Took yall long enough

[olive mesa]

I mean what else am I gonna do, get d/c’ed constantly either by the server’s bad quality or lag switchers, get beat to death by a bot, fight someone using T&J with Black Adam lighting somehow. I just can’t do it without resorting to the things I hate. I just can’t

[scarlet shore]

And can we give characters endlag i just had this joker who just hit up air for like 80% (im playing giant) and i know giant needs nerfs but can we buff the range of his neutral special that thing never hits unless they are inside me

Istg they will never fix the glitch where u block someone and it crashes the game will they

[lofty beacon]

Why Cant we just decline matches at this point

[scarlet shore]

Damn that update would go hard

Id never fight morty again

[olive mesa]

I don’t even have the name of the T&J who had this Black Adam lighting aura because the game doesn’t save d/c matches

[scarlet shore]

It does for me

And r u sure they werent using the lightning perk that is not signature

[sharp fjord]

man, I would love that

best idea ever

[olive mesa]

So I looked up rainbow lighting, but it’s not a Black Adam perk. It’s a perk for damage dealt. Either the Last Stand or Press the Advantage. I only was able to deal 1 damage with the lag and he dealt 61 damage and it activated somehow

[lofty beacon]

That’s what I’m sayin. You see a character you don’t like, just decline, everyone wins

[autumn estuary]

remove the exploit where t&j get to do like 75 damage for free

[olive mesa]

They wouldn’t do that. That would require them to make the game more playable

[stable acorn]

rn the game is giving me less and less daily missons can it go back to notmal

[olive mesa]

Man I really hope they add Nick O’Teen to Multiversus (because the game makes me wants to smoke 2 packs a day)

[lofty beacon]

Whoever thought Jacks up attack didn’t need recover frames, I wanna know their reason

Ain’t no reason why he whiffs it, and can’t be punished

[sharp fjord]

higher elos could have a problem tho

Imagine being top1 and having everyone declining you

[olive mesa]

Can’t play ranked because the game d/c’ed me.

[autumn estuary]

maybe you get one ban character that ranked matchmaking never puts you against unless it has no other choice. also the newest character should never be allowed in ranked idk what pfg was thinking they know they can't release balanced characters already

give the playerbase time to adjust in pubs and yourself time to adjust a character

many games do this

[olive mesa]

Can’t wait to be able to play ranked again, get d/c’ed because of the garbage servers, then get banned from it again

[scarlet shore]

Cannot wait for them to make jacks side special do half the damage and knockback and put it on a 15 second cooldown so people stop using it more than sonic mains use spindash

[olive mesa]

The game lagged and wouldn’t let me recover. I’m just gonna say this, bot users are probably smarter than us. They know the game is garbage and not worth the time and effort

You don’t lose the game half the time because they earned it, the game lags out and makes you SD. PFG just doesn’t care and won’t fix the game. I’m starting to think that they are just as bad as WB or worse

I’m honestly pretty close to going crazy, this is embarrassing and sad for PFG

If you’re game is so bad that not even Ethernet can prevent disconnections, then you should fix it and not just be developing a 3rd season to a game nobody wants to play in its current state

[sharp fjord]

I really wish patches were more frequent and they were more open about what they're working on

[olive mesa]

More than half of my loses are because the game void walks, forces me to not be able to input, or just d/c’s me

I don’t even know how to put it into words, but PFG, fix the game, the stress and rage is gonna kill me before the game dies out due to the horrible condition it’s in

[stuck sable]

Please add a "In game" and "In menus" or "In rifts" and "In party" status to Online friends. So we can tell if they're busy or not, and if you're playing with someone else already.

[gleaming sinew]

🤣 so true

[reef zinc]

Seconded

[stuck sable]

The game just failed to load the match, kicked me out and said the game had desynched, then gave me a -10 ranked penalty for disconnecting though I literally never even started the game, and then it banned me from playing another game for 3 minutes. WHY

[olive mesa]

Can we all just agree that Uncle Al is right about everything negative he’s said about this game.

[unreal narwhal]

Theres a profile icon that says you can get in the battle pass but isn’t in it it’s in fighters then acc cosmetics in profile icons as rogue mortis

[hidden sapphire]

Ranked is good but Dexter map should get removed

It really sucks

Makes some characters kill options really hard

[olive mesa]

JUST GOT DERANKED TO BRONZE 1 FROM SILVER 5 BECAUSE PFG CAN’T FUNKING HANDLE THEIR SERVERS. I WAS WINNING THAT MATCH TOO. WHY ARE THERE INCOMPETENT PEOPLE RUNNING THE SERVERS

[spare bay]

nerf batmans batarang, it gives him complete control of the flow of battle

[olive mesa]

Please don’t lie here

[hidden sapphire]

U mean the ranked part

Or thr dexter

[olive mesa]

Ranked

[hidden sapphire]

Oh ok

[olive mesa]

Yeah, Ranked is full of bots, lag switchers, and matches that end because PFG can’t handle their server

I have to wait another 25 minutes because I was about to win but was d/c’ed

Imma play PvZ, you know, a game the devs actually cared about

[ornate kraken]

If you submit a a glitch do you get gleamium?

[ornate kraken]

Bros in the Bronze Age

[olive mesa]

Probably not, and I’m so mad rn

[sharp fjord]

there's something wrong with dodges... many times I get hit middodge, and it's not even multihit

[olive mesa]

Yeah I know look at this video #videogames message

[candid tangle]

Lmao I’m in diamond 4 and the game consistently matches me against bronze 5 players, awarding me only 3rp for the win and -13 or more for a loss… it’s bs because the players in bronze aren’t bad, they’re just starting ranked so why can’t the game just match me against players within my own rank and award me a reasonable amount of RP for my grind… I mean the whole point of “ranked” is to be put against players in ur rank… right?

Also doesn’t help with the new season 2 running off the edge lag glitch which also demolishes my RP

[quaint gust]

Can’t wait to put the devs teeth in a combo loop next time their out grabbing essentials
Balance their faces real fine

[olive mesa]

I know the feeling

[autumn estuary]

i think i parried a finn's air down special and it didn't stop him like at all lol still won tho

[sharp fjord]

Batman feels so stupid right now... His recovery time after up special is ridiculously short, and he punishes you when you go punish him... Which sucks, because Batman's up special is one of the strongest moves in the game

he just rushes at you and there's nothing you can do...

[autumn estuary]

all parried attacks should pause the sender idc how far away they are from the parry

can i have some consistency pfg

also make jerry die from blunt force trauma if tom slingshots him three times in a short period

[bitter bramble]

i understand doing massive changes at the halfway point of each season, but can we please get smaller monthly updates?

because samurai jack is waayyyyyyy toooo opp

as well as the many other bugs that y'all are getting that are easy changes

[sharp fjord]

I hope we don't have to wait until the middle of the season for a patch on jack, seriously

a patch on spamming, actually

generally

[noble root]

quick general question is harleys aerial game fair? like as soon as u run out of mid air dodges she can combo u to infinite

[sharp fjord]

she needs some startup before that kick Q_Q

[dusty robin]

NERF SAMRAI JACK PLEASE

[split kelp]

The best way to nerf Morty's grounded side special and force Morty players to camp less imo would be giving the move a cooldown of some sort. I would suggest about 8-10 seconds

[scarlet shore]

Can they change righteous warrior jacks victory pose it looks ridiculously stupid

[lost knot]

armor needs an icd (internal cooldown)

[fallen moth]

To the Samurai jack i was with while I was Agent Smith during a ranked 2v2 match I am so sorry the game bugged and would barely let me move and even if i could it dragged me to the edge of the stage each time i dunno if anyone else experienced that in their online matches but that was unbearable it didn't even disconnect either it just made me lose a match unintentionally

I'll send the clip in clips in a bit but it kept not registering my moves at all not even input delay just flat out not taking any inputs

[alpine sparrow]

are you guys gonna fix supermans sideways death combo cause its getting crazy

[fleet garnet]

I asked about 2 months ago, but why do none of finns moves have whiff lag?

[twilit eagle]

Swords need a huge rework

[bitter condor]

I WANT INFINITE TOAST

Please

[twilit eagle]

There’s no reason why the hit boxes are so violently out of wack I cannot touch Jack, Finn, WW cause their hit boxes are wildly exaggerated

Whip

[bitter condor]

@twilit eagle what do you think about infinite toasts tho

[fleet garnet]

yeah I dont have a single thing for neutral against finn, its rough

[bitter condor]

@fleet garnet what do you think about infinite toasts

@analog hollow what do you think about infinite toasts

[sharp fjord]

THEY FIXED TRACKER!!! TRACKER IS BACK!

Samurai Jack in 1s have 9.7% pickrate and 58.2% winrate

reindog has the same winrate, but 0.8% pickrate

[bitter condor]

@sharp fjord what do you think about infinite toasts

[sharp fjord]

idc, they feel infinite to me

[bitter condor]

so you support the infinite toast movement

Everyone gets infinite toast

[sharp fjord]

very interesting data at tracker dot gg

[drowsy bough]

PFG I come to you with one request and it's to remove literally everything that Finn has, he shouldn't be able to answer every single approach option no matter what

[sick pollen]

batman players actually ruin the game why are they rewarded for dodge spamming?

[drowsy bough]

gut the character I beg of you

[sick pollen]

finn and batman do this its actually so annoying because in ranked all people play is jack finn batman shaggy n wonderwoman

[sharp fjord]

finn actually has a low winrate of 47%, putting him in tier c

according to tracker

[sick pollen]

tracker is not accurate im ngl

it cant be

whats the data for jack

[drowsy bough]

tracker is delulu then 🤷‍♀️

[prime magnet]

do yall use dpad to move instead of analog stick?

[sharp fjord]

7.1% pickrate

for finn

jack is 9.7% pickrate and 58.2% wins

[prime magnet]

what about jake

how do i get this info

[drowsy bough]

that character has the easiest 0td in the entire game and wins interactions automatically because his hurtbox is smaller than the love my parents have for me and his hitboxes are the size of australia

[sick pollen]

ranked is so bad

can they actually fix hitboxes before releasing a ranked mode lol

it seems like every new character we get the hit boxes get worse

bc why tf did a tom and jerry just crouch and not take any damage from me multiple times???

[drowsy bough]

also you forgot the morty players who only run away and then kill you by using the move that gives you weakened and always hits

[drowsy bough]

finn jab lowprofiles half of agent smith's kit

[sick pollen]

yeah bc they dont wana bring back attack decay somethign that prevented this issue in beta lol

who do i have to pay to get attack decay back

this game needs it

[sand robin]

Don't match me with people if we're too far away... I had a ranked fight with a large amount of of input delay, I checked my recording and after I pressed dodge in neutral the dodge didn't start until 12 frames after I pressed the button. It sucked.

[drowsy bough]

give tony 84$ and he probably would

also

PLEASE fix the servers oh my GOD. losing a game because all of a sudden I lose control when I'm going for an edgeguard makes me actually wanna scream

[fathom kelp]

nerf batman ffs

[drowsy bough]

nerf finn first

[open mica]

I feel that Samurai Jack is overpowered, he has too much range that too few characters can match, his jabs are too spammable, his down air has way too few recovery frames, and is overall a difficult character to punish

[fathom kelp]

hes pretty balanced

[minor shore]

since yall removed tazs ability to hold up atk forever go ahead and remove that from all of fins atks. if youre not going to give it back to taz

[drowsy bough]

he's not

he has literally everything a character can have in the game other than spammable projectiles

which he doesn't need because of the lariats

[open mica]

I don't think just any character has this

[minor shore]

cause fin being able to hold all his atks forever is bs. and his up atk range is dumb as hell to be able to hold it

[drowsy bough]

he can be whiff punished hard but he still kills way too much

[drowsy bough]

finn should have the 0td removed, the entire shop removed, the ability to move during attacks removed, make his hitbox the same size as jason's and then also reduce his weight below harley's
that's the only way he'll be balanced

jokes aside, at least make him die at the same % as other assassins

he shouldn't live to 150% on any map

and yet he does. on every single one of them

genuinely just remove the 0td, reduce his weight to be in-line with the other assassins and give him a 3second limit on holding attacks

[sharp fjord]

apparently finn is 47% winrate with 7.1% pickrate

[minor shore]

they nerfed tazs ability to do it so it should just match that nerf and have the same effect for whif

[foggy ether]

Don't end up like Sakurai.
“Steve and Ganondorf have same win rate. Balanced!”

I hate statistics honestly because it paints one corner of a story

[drowsy bough]

I'll believe this when I stop seeing them every other ranked game, and when he actually gets nerfs

[drowsy bough]

well you see, they're both characters that take skill to get wins, therefore, it's balanced /j

[foggy ether]

It reminds me of Nurse in DBD. Best character in game, but lowest win rate. So buff her right? Wrong

[foggy ether]

Nope.

Nope.

And nope

[fathom kelp]

Naww hes balanced

[drowsy bough]

bait

[foggy ether]

You know who's got most master ranks right now? Even more than Jack apparently?
Arya.
How many have complained about her since Ranked?
Nope just “Samurai Jack side b broken”

[drowsy bough]

having powerful characters that take high skill to play (Steve and Bayonetta in Smash, Zuko and Patrick in NASB2, Orcane in Rivals, Arya and Black Adam in this game) is fine tbh
it's when you have characters that a baby could pick up and play and get results with that it becomes an issue (Aegis in smash, Garfield in NASB2, Kragg in Rivals, Finn, Jack, Bugs, Wonder Woman and Batman in this game)

[foggy ether]

That's 1 color in a painting bro

[drowsy bough]

I don't follow

[minor shore]

sorry but steve and bayo dont take skill 😭

[drowsy bough]

go win a tournament with them then 👁️ 👁️

[foggy ether]

Steve doesn't

[drowsy bough]

see my previous comment

[foggy ether]

He doesn't and I did. He doesn't take high skill

Skill factor is one thing. There's a lot to consider.

[minor shore]

smash 4 bayo was literally running the tourney scene

bayo in ultimate sucks she isnt a strong chracter at all

[fathom kelp]

Everything is "bait" when u dont agree 😂 get better

[minor shore]

and steve is literally terrorizing smash ultimate because of how good he is and how easy it is to trample people with him. they have some mechanics that take a bit of skill/practice but overall they are extremely strong

[foggy ether]

Anyone that says Steve is difficult to play and isn't broken just don't accept reality

[drowsy bough]

I'm not arguing that Steve isn't strong, he is, but he's incredibly technical and takes a lot of skill to play above a certain level

[foggy ether]

Its not

[drowsy bough]

Slightly biased cause I play him

I'll own that

But if he was easy then I'd be the best in my local scene, and I'm not, so 🤷‍♀️

[foggy ether]

He has broken tech that can be done on accident lol

[foggy ether]

Skill issue

[drowsy bough]

if you're talking about PMLG, it's about as useful if your opponent sneezes mid-combo

[drowsy bough]

It is! It's also a commitment issue

but if he took no skill, then I wouldn't have to worry with it

[minor shore]

steves atks in general are strong thats what makes him easy to play. you can do technical stuff with him but his basic kit is very strong without the technical stuff.

[drowsy bough]

anyways, this is an MVS chat

talking about baby characters in this game

[foggy ether]

All my point is. Don't be flinging statistics in here to paint whatever agenda you want because I hate that crap

[minor shore]

arya litterlly rinse and repeats the same combo to carry and kill

[drowsy bough]

Finn, WW and Shaggy are the standouts because of their ease of access and kill capability

[drowsy bough]

but she also dies at 70%, and her attacks have a LOT of endlag on them

all of her normals get hella punished on whiff

[minor shore]

ive nver just faught an arya that doesnt fish for jab conversions and run away.

[foggy ether]

She fastest character

[minor shore]

and what whiff they can legit just dodge away 😭

[fathom kelp]

"alot of endlag" LOOL ur trolling

[drowsy bough]

Not framedata wise, that goes to either finn or harley iirc

I gotta pull up her actual framedata gimme a sec

[minor shore]

taz up atk has more whiff then her moves lol.

they hate poor taz bro

[foggy ether]

She has built in dodge. She was made to be fast. Get in get out that's like her whole thing as a character

[drowsy bough]

as someone who played a lot of the beta
good

I get PTSD every time I hear that spin

now if only they treated finn just as poorly

then we'd be in business

[minor shore]

i played plenty of the beta and i can tell you a jab can stop the spin cause tazs moves aint beating out crap lol

why can jack grab my man out of dogpile.

everyone just dumps on taz for no reason

[foggy ether]

I'm gonna try this lol

[drowsy bough]

smith gets crapped on more unfortunately because hitboxes are jank

[minor shore]

youre a monster

and it truly robbed me of a match.

[foggy ether]

I'm sorry but Taz is a monster, he'd probably eat laptop in real life

My

[minor shore]

what? aint no way you think agent smith is worse off then taz man

[minor shore]

he is a misunderstood guy

[foggy ether]

Smith is chill in

[drowsy bough]

I don't, overall, just that he gets screwed over by a lot of stuff
also don't call me a man please and thank you

[minor shore]

huh?

man as in maaaannn you got to be kidding me.

[drowsy bough]

smith just has a lot of weird interactions rn and while they're not game-breaking or screw up his gameplan a lot

[minor shore]

idk what you are just using it in a neutral manner.