game-feedback

[olive mesa]

Also they constantly crash in 30 seconds or less

[thorny stump]

On the topic of 2v2's, and I know I'm probably going to get some looks with this one, but they really need to make it so each team doesn't consist of two people playing the same character.

For FFA it's fine, but 2v2 is where It needs to be done. I had a match earlier where I was Tom and I had an Arya, and we couldn't do a damn thing because our opponents were a team of Two Shaggy players, constantly spamming their specials (especially the side special) and waiting at the edge for us as we tried to recover.

As an addition, we also need a way to quit out of matchmaking matches, cause I don't want to have to jump off the edge and give the opponents the win all cause I don't want to deal with their BS.

[stiff shell]

If you think shaggy is op you didn't see double beta velma. also shaggy side special is super easy to punish. just DAir

[fallen turtle]

The banana guard code with the Matrix skin could return

[stiff shell]

Blocking and reports need to work

[potent quail]

that was brutal

[stiff shell]

Bro Ikr. 2 velmas who were good could make themselfs untouchable making you have to SD or hope they mess up an easy input

[sullen pawn]

I miss Jake x Velma 😦

Such a good time.

[sharp fjord]

I wish they released the data of the first season... most picked characters, average damage, average KOs

but I don't think they'd do that

[fleet garnet]

I dont like Joker card randomly killing me still

[stiff shell]

Alright not every charcter should have a kill projectile move. Playing stripe is miserable since saw blade is useless

[unique summit]

arya is op as shit!

on top of that she's easy asf

[stiff swallow]

what game are you playing that Arya is easy

[velvet pelican]

Hey howdy hey this is a really annoying thing I just discovered.

Apparently, your parry window is also affected by the parry animation in the character, which makes some characters parries better or worse then others.

Ex: Jason's parry animation has him move his arm out of the way, making his hurtbox smaller and therefore his parry hurtbox also shrink, so trying to parry moves from the front is a lot harder then they should be opposed to parrying facing the opposite direction. Especially projectiles like Lebron's basketballs

[tiny bronze]

• Please change perk for fighter pts for top dog reward

[stark perch]

an issue i feel like i have with the top dog stuff is that it doesnt really feel like.. its the " " top dog " " who wins, more of whoever decides they dont want to play multiversus until the event ends. like. theres no skill or thought in it, its just whoever decides they want to be late for work tomorrow. my boyfriend and i have been wanting to play games that ARENT multiversus but he cant because he wants the badge
so he's staying up like all night and into the morning playing multiversus
its literally just an endurance test

[gritty radish]

Turn down the goddamn boss hp in looney LITERALLY even with 2 people cannot do enough dps before timing out.

It's legit unfair and impossible to do.

[drowsy bough]

hey devs having beginner-friendly characters is cool and all but shaggy is still ridiculously overtuned and I think you should take a serious look at him

especially his rage specials still killing at like <50

and applying 3 stacks of weakened for having the most forgivable hitboxes in the game

in no circumstances should I be able to completely outskill a shaggy on every stock and then lose the game because he hit me with rage sideb 3 times

[timid steeple]

Stop giving challenges that make you buy skins to get them done…… only way to “earn” an adventure time & mage skin variant is to get over 20+ boss kills and that’s only possible co-op.
Stop forcing co-op and actually make rifts possible to be solo’d

[autumn estuary]

STOP THE COUNT LMAO why would you keep doing top dogs without patching bot win exploits 💀 i wanna do this legit but the nobody in first is exploiting

Revert this top dog challenge, give people gleamium as apology, patch that crap, do it again, and release fern announcer pack & profile icon & banner

[twin hatch]

delete top dog from the game

add ranked

[tiny bronze]

• Fix badge tracker, keeps being wrong. FOR Several stas
  For ex - i have 27 rift bosses yet the badges are only tracking 24
• Ringout leader is still showing my stat from BETA

[autumn estuary]

Anyways now that we've all learned how to dodge/DI finn's ladder combo we can just admit Finn is a fair and balanced character who takes more skill than a lot of the cast?

[lethal shale]

theres no reason why morty should be able to spam his side special. He can already throw a whole stage worth of spam, no reason he needs that too.

[sharp fjord]

I feel something is off with dodge

[weak badge]

Lol the man that easily beat Joker with his Jason find top dog event too sweaty for him 😂

The event where people farm bots to win

[mossy hill]

ok why tf velma side special GAVE ARMOR WHEN YOU HAVE TEAMATE ON YOU

ONLY THAT

why they didnt do it on 1V1

this is so dumb lol i met someone random and able play lobby without dc

when they try invite me

i unable join their room

[drowsy bough]

an indicator when you're out of dodges/specials midair would be SO helpful

[mossy hill]

esp in 2v2 or ffa one

its barely VISIBLE

FFS

[steel edge]

Joker still problem

[mossy hill]

yee

i manage do 0 to kill lol

with 49 damage dealt

cuz the enemy is light weight enemy (assasin)

[stiff shell]

I have a life outside the game and have managed to get first every time using only jason and without bot farm. Its not hard to win just be coinsistent

[weak badge]

👍

[delicate siren]

I dont think this has been said yet but id like to add kbm support to console. You can use a keyboard on console but theres no way to change your binds so youre stuck with default controls. Have a way to change your binds on keyboard if possible

[mossy hill]

i felt 2v2 is much better if u able full carry

to grind top dog

u get much alot exp there

lmao after several match i finally my previously teamate lol

[autumn estuary]

literally no point someone is just going to s/d 1v1 games until they get bots and grind those for points all day it's a worthless badge and it's tony's fault like WHYYYYYY DO BOT MATCHES GIVE TOP DOG POINTS TONYYYYYYYY

[mossy hill]

ehhh

i only met 1 bots so far

[autumn estuary]

you don't understand what i'm saying and i understand that because the concept is ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS but read that again

[mossy hill]

IK WHAT YOU MEAN

it just so far i only face 1 bots

which CONFUSING HOW TF PEOPLE CAN GET ALOT BOTS TO FARM

[autumn estuary]

dude you just have to lose like 5 games in a row that's how they're doing it they're throwing until they get bots

Tony needs to nullify this top dog and try it again with a hotfix for that, the results are fraudulent across the board

[mossy hill]

like literally this bot idk if its AI or its actual player

cuz this shaggy

only do 1 move which is upper cut

nothing else lol

barely dodging

and running around

[autumn estuary]

that's human

[mossy hill]

well its bot then

bot by i mean (bad player)

[autumn estuary]

bots will have a really lame username, decked out in cosmetics but no badges

[mossy hill]

for facing ai bots uhhh i met once so far lol

cuz that 1 time i hard lose streak

[gritty flower]

looney megalodog is kind of way too ungodly strong

no hitstun + hitboxes so big they dont match visuals + can cancel moves + kills in like 3 hits + ridiculous HP pool + only 2 lives

cant run, cant fight, cant combo, cant space, I assume you literally need max gems because even with 10/9/9 it is not close to doable in singleplayer

[sturdy dagger]

Yes bots are meant to be a moral booster. But also seeing them says: "so you've been losing a lot huh?"

Which is not that reassuring....

[upper wing]

yall need to disable queueing up as double characters while in a team, people are actively abusing it during events like top dog to farm cheap wins

[mossy hill]

wait what was the max???

[gritty flower]

10 to my knowledge

[mossy hill]

guys

nvm

[glossy panther]

I think rifts need heavily reworked. I’m not talking about how mind numbingly boring they are to grind, but instead on how they promote bad gameplay. They teach players (likely new players who go there to practice before pvp) to only use certain moves (challenges saying hit 7 side specials etc), and this can make them spammers and not understand the core gameplay. I think there either needs to be a better, advance tutorial, or rework rifts to promote/teach gameplay to prepare players for pvp.

As of now rifts feel like just a way to maintain your player base’s attention with a promise of a fighter like a carrot on a stick, and all you’ve delivered is some average pve with ridiculous challenges that aren’t achievable for 75% of the players since they don’t have the fighter/skin, a poorly written story that gets repetitive by the third rift because it’s always the same (“you don’t have the gem? They have the gem!? Let’s go!”), and a pointless gem system that’s really only there to incentivize players to purchase boosters so they can beat your absolutely daunting goal of 20 bosses. I mean new players log on and see “Earn Agent Smith free by playing rifts” but then they realize that’s gonna take them 20+ hours and likely some help from friends or randoms on the discord like I had to do. It’s clear the goal of rifts is to make your players play your game for as long as they can, but can you at least make that process more fun and rewarding for us? I mean all you get for playing rifts (besides the event) is stuff to help you play more rifts! How’s that even make sense? Where’s the rift themed skins that only those who beat it on looney unlock, or themed player banners, or even some badges other than bosses defeated. Anything you can use outside of rifts would make it so much more rewarding to grind.

I think the whole thing needs reworked, and I don’t expect it with season 2, but I’ll bet if the character to grind for next season isn’t hype nobody will grind rifts

[iron peak]

I put so much effort into reaching insanity lvl megalodog boss but this nod is impossible... not only the boss has to be dodged every single attack my gems at lvl 7 barely even touch him! This is just ridicoulous... I know you want us to spend as much as possible but wtf how are we supposed to get agent smith with your own event

[iron peak]

this too

[keen oak]

i went off the map when megalodog dived and it glitched and i instantly won

idk if it will work for you

[iron peak]

i see no other way around it, thanks.

[keen oak]

your welcome hanzo

[unique summit]

When is there going to be a genuine ww nerf? characters like her always gets really light nerfs

[pale furnace]

give us IN GAME VOICE CHAT or a simple CHAT for the party

i'd love to share a gif of bugs bunny saying "please" but looks like you can't put gift in this chat.

[mossy hill]

@pale furnace yeah the most pain part someone trying invite you nonstop but u cant join them CUZ THE SERVER

[primal glade]

Nerf jokers down air to down special to down air to down special combo

[pine hemlock]

Can't claim my Top Dog Challenge badge because it says already claimed

The badge is not in the account cosmetics and pretty sure perk currency has not gone up

[steel iris]

Been experiencing lots of connection issues lately. I keep disconnecting in games.

[balmy bloom]

^^^^^^ this

Its so frustrating

I legit have not claimed it

And it says already claimed

I dont have the badge nor did I get any bp xp

[cinder sable]

Same here. Came in first and says rewards already claimed but I know for certain I haven’t claimed them yet

[steel iris]

I keep disconnecting EVERY SINGLE time. Am I the only one experiencing this?

[balmy bloom]

I haven't had any disconnections since like

A month ago

Idk

• FIX THE TOP DOG CHALLENGE REWARDS ALREADY CLAIMED PROBLEM PLEASE

I need those rewards man 😭

[eternal moon]

Yeah i can’t claim mine either 😭

[tiny bronze]

• Do you guys plan on bringing game chat or text chat atleast?

[split robin]

What can we do to make Shaggy less reliant on Rage Side Special. He has a solid all-around kit but this is the strategy I face 9/10 times to various effect (the 10th Shaggy absolutely cooks). Would similar changes made to Banana Guard’s Side Special be a viable remedy?

[sacred umbra]

Top Dog Challenge issue: https://tenor.com/view/futurama-fix-it-gif-16110085637413004018

[split robin]

Oh when Ranked Mode becomes a thing. In 2v2, I definitely would suggest a Character Limit of 1 per team. Fights just feel like 🧀 when it’s doubles. Maybe it’s still alright to watch though…

[icy furnace]

finn has to be nerfed, this is too free, why can he keep charging his sword attack ?? no sense

[tiny bronze]

• Might as well add a mystery or season rift complete reward for users who all get all the nodes for all rifts. Its very time consuming, but its a challenge within itself.

[late glacier]

Can we get another Top Dog event? I lost again
😅

[eternal pilot]

Increase the boss timer omg

Increase the boss timer

Increase loooney boss timer

Increase looney boss timer

Increase lonely boss timer

Thank you ❤️

[unkempt anvil]

Character -
Shaggy

Concept of Change -
Changing side special to decrease amount of spam “side kick” can be executed. I would highly recommend making Shaggy side special identical to Bugs Bunny side special. Bugs is able to use a rocket but then gets a decent cooldown until he can use it again. Great for FINISHING but Bugs is unable to spam side special rockets all over the place.

I would suggest keep Shaggy side special the same but during “cool down”, you have a less severe kick that Shaggy does. Or maybe offer Shaggy a different projectile (like throwing a pie/sandwich etc) during the cooldown period. Make the side special kick an actual TOOL, not the whole part of the kit.

Why is this benefiting Multiversus? -
Multiversus prides itself in a less spammy button mashing environment. Developers have preached about making sure the game is balanced and no 0tD stay consistent. Fixing side special would take away a lot of the “spam” you see from Shaggy players. Especially in a 2v2 setting or FFA, where they are hiding until they see a window to spam it.

What situations in-game is said suggestion going to improve gameplay? -
Competitive gameplay will skyrocket following this potential change. 2v2 will become a lot more match up based, if you see a Shaggy on another team it’s almost A MUST to have a tank or S tier player to contend. There should be NO meta of how this game works —- character expression!

Who is benefiting most from said suggestion? New players, casual players, competitive players? -
Competitive players will be benefiting most from this suggestion, as most of the competitive community has a love/hate relationship with Shaggy kit.
New players and casual players would miss this attribute about Shaggy (especially since Shaggy is part of the free rotation from start of game) BUT I believe it would be best long term. New players should not be relying on ONE move to help them save games. To continue to improve you must be able to take losses and this is a great way of going about this.

How would you go about explaining this change to a casual player? -
Shaggy is going to be VERY strong still but now you’ll have to be more strategic when using the side special. Instead of every 3 seconds, maybe it jumps up to every 12 seconds in between cool downs. It will challenge you to really set up for punishment whiffs to your opponent or for easy KOs. The main goal here is so instead of seeing the side kick special 25 times in a match, maybe we only see it for 7-10 times. It would be better balance because side special continues to not only be a great FINISHING move but one that can be sent back and forth.

Would you change any other moves of said character after this change? -
Not at the moment but I do believe another projectile would do good for his kit. (Not a high damage projectile, a smaller one like Bugs pie down neutral)

Have you done research on the game development of said suggestion(s)? Think game engine dynamics, game design and art, etc. If yes, please give a quick overview of what you would do in the game development stages. -
I have not done research on how hard this can be but merely a small suggestion that can go a long way. I’d more than happy to help in any sort of capacity I can during this process.

[unkempt anvil]

Shaggy side special revamp idea! 💙

[cyan dragon]

NGL I don’t even play shaggy and I think that this is a super convoluted way to fix a much simpler problem. Decrease the range of it slightly (the normal version and the charged version) and lower the knockback of the charged version slightly. That’s all it needs.

But also respect to you for writing all this out, it’s clearly well thought out and well written — just extremely unnecessary at the core.

[stiff shell]

Competitive player here and no this would not benifit us. Comp players don't just spam side special. If you're losing to side special just jump into dair. Quit trying to get shaggy killed like everyone else because you can't beat spamming. THIS STUFF RIGHT HERE IS WHAT KILLED THE GAME FOR COMPETITIVE PLAYERS IN THE BETA

[somber trellis]

Whats dair

[unkempt anvil]

Read my entire post sir and then come back to me after you read it all and realized you overreacted. I am simply offering a solution to make making the character better for competitive, casual and new players. Shaggy is my top 3 “mains” and I don’t even abuse the side special like I see 90% of the community does. Thanks for your opinion but you provided absolutely zero facts.

[unkempt anvil]

Down air neutral

[split kelp]

I would love to see a separate game mode for “Break The Targets” instead of it being in rifts mode only. I’m hoping it gets added soon with all break the targets stages from rifts available to play in this separate game mode. It would also be great if a leaderboard can be attached to the game mode and all the separate stages with it for the more hardcore competitive speed runners as well with the leaderboard being similar to the mmr leaderboards in the beta but instead of mmr their record time will be shown for a certain stage.

[stiff shell]

Cool downs for non projectile moves are unhealthy as they can be jumped over and dair. Competitive players arent losig to shaggy

[unkempt anvil]

Are you competitive? Would love to spar sometime if you’d like. Shaggy vs Shaggy? Neither one of us can use side special. Who wins?

One simple look at previous tournament results will show you that Shaggy is placed top 8 often. Please do your research before speaking on my ideas. I actually put effort, time and dedication into my craft.

[stiff shell]

I was top 1K with 5 characters including shaggy

The nerfs they made from beta to release killed tons of characters because people aren't good

[unkempt anvil]

“Was” I live in the here and now. Lmk if you’d like that spar sometime. For now I have to get back to work. Thanks for the suggestions.

[icy furnace]

Can you decrease the rematch timer after selection like 5sec after one of the person has accepted. Some just don' t accept and let the timer goes, this is annoying

[novel lake]

A bug I'm having is that I've already finished the battlepass but it still says I have stuff to claim.

[balmy bloom]

nahhh

cause I do that 😈

whenever I come across a tbagger or a salt emote spammer

[eternal moon]

I was playing as Alya Stark

[lethal hill]

How do you hit an enemy with dash attacks

[rugged bronze]

Can’t claim top dog

[bold narwhal]

same

[olive mesa]

Can they fix their servers, holy crap it’s so bad

[austere crescent]

Specifically for 1v1s, add the ability to ban one character that the game will then not queue you against them.

[balmy bloom]

tf lmao thats so stupid

[balmy bloom]

double tap then normal attack or it triggers when ur running and then attack

[lethal hill]

Ok thanks

[balmy bloom]

I mean double tap as in left or right on the ground

move button

then attack

[graceful holly]

Fix rifts on looney the cpus aren't smarter thats a lie the attacks are not non-stop they spam dodges and parries emptying there meter so quickly. they only win cause the 3 hits they land on you put you into KO range. while your doing 5 damage per string.

The Run away gem is poorly designed at high levels it can catapult you off the stage cause you move so far in one direction.

Auto equip doesn't pick the highest gems avalible for the rift color.

As for the shaggy thing i rather they just make his attack unsafe where if you have a fast normal you can beat it. I would not suggest cooldown. since cooldowns are over the game people like morty can sit there and have 5 things on cooldown at one time. cooldowns don't solve the problem. they just make you vunlerable for a couple seoncds while the moves power is unchanged.

[balmy bloom]

Please fix the top dog challenge, no one can claim their rewards

Imma say this as many times as I can

[vernal geyser]

just keep opening it

[balmy bloom]

wdym

Ive opened the event like 100000 times

[vernal geyser]

go in and out of - oh

it worked for me

[balmy bloom]

fr?

mmmm

[vernal geyser]

maybe close the game and do that

[balmy bloom]

I guess Ill keep trying if it worked for u

But still they should fix it before the next one lol

[vernal geyser]

very true

[glossy panther]

My rewards are claimable now

[remote dirge]

They should add that for ranked, or atleast not queue against the same character your using

[hollow narwhal]

I have 3 missions for this age of smith event that all require a character wearing a matrix skin.

The only one i have is Jason. Was this event only meant for the people who grinded ALL of the rifts to play looney difficulty?

As someone trying to catch up, i can't even unlock insanity. Being gatekept put of two events is wildly unfair

[balmy bloom]

Why bro thats so... lame

People should get accustomed and learn how to play against characters that they're weak against

I dont mean to be a bit rude but

Dumbest idea I've ever heard

[austere crescent]

Some characters are just so one-sided counter-matchups, or just not at all fun to play against. Plus, it'd mean that people have a way to avoid overly broken characters in the meta

I'd be fine with the entire roster, but I'd find the game so much better if I didn't have half my 1v1 games be Morty's who spend the entire game running away. Win or lose, it's just so boring

[remote dirge]

Your acting like this game is balanced

There are some match ups that is impossible to win

I doubt a reindog same skill level will beat a Wonder Woman same skill level

If the game was abit more balanced I would agree with you

But they should atleast add where you don’t play the same character which you queue

They should rework all top tiers and low tier characters at this point

Nerfing doesn’t do justice

[vapid drift]

Can we please stop with the quests that require a specific skin? Or he'll, even the ones that require specific characters?!

[kindred stratus]

I highly agree, character specific missions in general are just bad

[eternal moon]

it's because reindog doesn't function in singles intentionally

[remote dirge]

Every character functions perfectly in 1s and 2s. Just certain get extra functions with teammates.

That’s like saying perks don’t function in 1s because in 2s you can make it more effective. So should we just not use perks in 1s???

[eternal moon]

and yeah, reindog is definitely geared more towards doubles and that's by design

you cherrypicked a bad example to prove your good point

[hazy oyster]

ill let the clips speak for themselves
#clips message

[amber holly]

oh lookie another event mission you have to literally grind your butt off for

[unkempt anvil]

Can I hear more about your opinions on cooldowns? You provided some good information but I’m struggling to see where a cooldown does not solve the side special problem Shaggy is having right now. It’s not as if Shaggy has nothing else in his kit to make up for extended cool down. Shaggy side special is one of the games biggest complaints - I don’t see how we can skip over this issue. Something on him needs to be addressed.

Cooldowns would offer exactly we need on Shaggy side special, more 10-12, maybe 14 second in between each move so the spam of the same move is not repeated over over and over.

[amber holly]

give it a limit and cool down and make it another weaker move when its on cool down

[unkempt anvil]

✅

[amber holly]

another character does that but i forgot who

[unkempt anvil]

Marvin and Bugs

Bugs rocket side special, Marvin up special rocket UFO + sax

[hazy oyster]

has this happened to anyone else? ive been trying to replicate it in training mode but i cant get it to happen again

[graceful holly]

making things have cooldowns just fixes the problem in a clunky way. making it weaker or more punishible. giving it more endlag. that way you cchange the move without it being clunky for the player. are the devs going to add it to a cool down. probably. that seems to be how they "Fix" a problematic move though imo it doesn't really fix the move

[amber holly]

hmmm id say if thats the case then we buff his kick to 25% of a rage boost but its on cool down like bugs where you can only use it once then it goes on cool down. So its stronger but youll have to use it riskingly and sparingly

its a nerf and buff

[unkempt anvil]

This seems like it should be posted in #bug-reporting or it might’ve just been a bad server issues for that game/night

[unkempt anvil]

Interested concept that the cool down doesn’t actually “fix” the move. I’m not seeing the logic behind that, I’m a big fan of Bugs kit and even though the rocket is fantastic for finishing up moves I sometimes forget about it because of the long cool downs. The cooldown on Bugs rocket forces the user to look for other moves to finish or even start a combo with, hence my comparison. Shaggy players have no character expression bc of this side special and that’s my biggest issue, he has an AMAZING KIT when fully utilized.

[amber holly]

agreed

[orchid marsh]

Loading takes too long for getting into a fight.

[pallid meteor]

Some bundle-exclusive items have been missing from the store for a while, and it’s silly for those bundle-exclusive items to not return when the bundle they were in didn’t relate to eachother (Yer a grand ol’ flag ringout being packaged with the summer Arya bundle, and not the 4th of July bundles)

[dapper folio]

Can I somehow reset my whole progress ? I wanted to start from zero but now I have also problem with points that are just stuck.

[unkempt anvil]

Just try making a new account. I don’t suggest restarting

[fallen knot]

After mid season patch, i felt the game's performance became worst than before from my experience
Because until now, i've played a lot solo whether in 1s and 2s, but i got desync issue a lot than usual (before mid season patch), i'm sure if i play with friend whether in pvp and rift, i'll still get desync, even crashing and laggy
I tried couple times like restart the game, even reinstall it. But it still happened.

And few days ago, even i played with a player with same region (asia), i still got desync
Now i've no clue, for the sake of the game, i can only hope that this issue can be fixed ASAP
i dunno what will happen if you release ranked mode while issues still exist
New report :** Recently i always stuck at aunthetic loading, it made me to restart the game like 3 times until i'm into the main menu**

I'll keep report this until season 2 if this is still happens, to ensure this feedback/report keep getting noticed and get fixed
Thank you

[dapper folio]

Yeah but I'm on steam so after that I'll have to buy the game again

[sharp fjord]

but it's free Oo

[amber holly]

its free

[dapper folio]

Nope. Its 50 euro for me on steam

[amber holly]

proof

[dapper folio]

whoops nvm I was looking for wrong one XD

[sharp fjord]

I don't understand why anyone would think that fighting a character who has 4 different projectiles would be fun

[amber holly]

i think its fun

makes it more rewarding when i beat them and then mock them for spamming

[sharp fjord]

fighting Marvin is not fun for me

at all

nor fighting Morty

I'm genuinely concerned about the game... I think the game is just impossible to balance and I'm afraid people will quit before they manage to do what needs to be done

[autumn estuary]

Thanks for giving us a worthless psuedo-ranked event that can be cheesed by s/ding until you get bot games so nobody with half a brain is going to respect the top dog badge knowing some guy spent literally all day throwing for bot games to get 40k points in one day THANKS TONY YOU REALLY HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH THIS EXPLOITFEST

[robust solstice]

Before the Bugs nerfs me and @stark kettle trolled hard with Marvin and Bugs
Homing Safe was terrifying

[autumn estuary]

I REQUIRE Fern profile icon + announcer pack + banner as compensation it's getting to the point i might quit entirely if i don't see something that tells me PFG still cares

[onyx sierra]

Can they buff agent smith a little bit, this man is the second slowest character by far.

[sharp fjord]

??????????????????

are you crazy?

wtf are you talking about?

Smith is completely broken

[onyx sierra]

Not at all man

[sharp fjord]

"second slowest character"... wtf are you talking about... you can't even punish him if he misses his jab

his entire body is a hitbox

[onyx sierra]

His attacks are so slow, and you can dodge his attacks super easily

His combos are the easiest combos to dodge out of

[sharp fjord]

bs

[robust solstice]

You can littrely dodge out of his jab which shouldn't happen

I agree he's strong but he has flaws

[onyx sierra]

His neutral is not good, and his neutral special is pretty jabky

[sharp fjord]

you can dodge the jab but gets hit by the second one

[onyx sierra]

His uppercut is the worst uppercut by far

[sharp fjord]

it's so quick you can't do anything about that second jab

[onyx sierra]

His up special barely hits

[autumn estuary]

aren't garnet and jason still the slowest or did jason get some significant speed buff i didn't notice

[onyx sierra]

Jason has less endlag for me than agent smith somehow

[sharp fjord]

this guy is coping... buffing agent smith

HA

[autumn estuary]

who would you rather get buffed next patch agent smith or finn

[onyx sierra]

I've lost more matches with agent smith than any other character in the game

Which is crazy

[robust solstice]

Garnet is slow until she flys at mach 3 thanks to her gauntlet move

[onyx sierra]

Hell even batman is better than agent smith and they're the same Class

[sharp fjord]

Jake, Rick, Velma, Stripe

neither finn nor smith need ANY buff

[onyx sierra]

Stripe doesn't need a buff

[autumn estuary]

that wasn't the question

[sharp fjord]

sure, Smith does

according to you

[robust solstice]

Quite littrely dodged it

[autumn estuary]

if you get caught by that more than like once per day you might have a skill issue

[icy furnace]

buff finn 😂 best joke of the day

[onyx sierra]

Yeah because smith doesn't have as much kill potential, stripe has 10x more kill potential

[sharp fjord]

Doesn't have much kill potential???? Dude, you must be tripping or just got Smith... it's not possible you're saying that

[robust solstice]

Oh it's very easy to dodge
But the first time I ever saw it I had a mini heart attack due to the speed

Very used to it now

[onyx sierra]

I've been playing smith for like 10 hours

[sharp fjord]

his side special kills people at 80, his worm move kills at 70-80

wtf are you talking about

[onyx sierra]

his side special can be hit mid animation and cancelled

[sharp fjord]

his side special hits EVEN WITH HIS FEET after you dodged

[robust solstice]

Side has great kill power but far to much startup for it

[onyx sierra]

it shoots over small characters like gizmo and finn

barerly hits

[autumn estuary]

make his ladder combo true, EoS accelerationism NOW

[sharp fjord]

It's not like Rick's gun, you can aim as Smith

[robust solstice]

That's just the games terrible hitboxes I've literally grabbed people behind me as giant

[onyx sierra]

not with his side special

[onyx sierra]

also, if you're doing a jab combo with nspecial you can't aim quick enough before they dodge

[robust solstice]

The only aim smith has is neutral

[onyx sierra]

smith can get soloed by half of the roster,

[robust solstice]

To be fair a lot can

The bottom half is much weaker then the top half

[sharp fjord]

YOU can be soloed by half the roster

[autumn estuary]

smith is significantly better in 1v1s than 2v2s man

[onyx sierra]

not really, alot of his attacks are super easy to dodge or counter

[sharp fjord]

dude, you really are tripping

seriously

[onyx sierra]

also his movement speed is pretty mid

[robust solstice]

Considering the main mode is 2v2 I don't think 1v1s should be used for balancing

[autumn estuary]

pleeeeaaaaase learn some combos before you talk about a character

[robust solstice]

LeBron gets gutted hard in 1v1s

[onyx sierra]

what do you think i've been doing

[sharp fjord]

crying, apparently

about literally the strongest character in the game

[onyx sierra]

wrong.

[sharp fjord]

asking TO BUFF HIM

[onyx sierra]

jason is better than smith dude. 💀

[sharp fjord]

I'm done with this conversation

[onyx sierra]

same with batman

[autumn estuary]

i guarantee you you don't know the sick nigh guaranteed death combo off the side of the stage (i don't either i don't play smith i just watched my friend do it)

[sharp fjord]

batman is indeed broken af

[onyx sierra]

alr, I was just saying he should get atleast a speed buff

[sharp fjord]

you only need that slide/kick as batman

nothing else

[onyx sierra]

batman needs more than that but alr

[robust solstice]

I think he needs more of a down special buff but either way he would like one of them

[onyx sierra]

his down special is one of his better moves tho? unless you're talking about the clone

his air down special is really good

[robust solstice]

The clone

Air one is very good

[onyx sierra]

the clone is ok, it needs a range buff

[autumn estuary]

batman is busted beyond belief and people are sleeping hard on lebron

[robust solstice]

Range or the ability not to die in 1 hit

[sharp fjord]

he basically wants a character that is unbeatable

only that

[onyx sierra]

no?

[sharp fjord]

...

[robust solstice]

No he was only asking for a speed buff

[onyx sierra]

i just want him to be slower than batman but faster than jason

[autumn estuary]

prove it who did you main before the big balance patch

[robust solstice]

Not the removal of his hurt boxes

[onyx sierra]

stripe, and jason.

[sharp fjord]

speed buff, kill power, clone buff

[robust solstice]

...

I was the one who wanted a clone buff

[autumn estuary]

yeah no WW games at all i'm sure

[robust solstice]

Did you even read

[onyx sierra]

No, i hate WW

WW is bs

[sharp fjord]

Marvin eats WW for breakfast

his armor breakers even hit behind him

no recovery time

[onyx sierra]

ww is the easiest character to play

besides shaggy

Personally i feel agent smith should have a faster movement speed. also his uppercut should be reworked a little bit as it's hitbox is so janky

that's it tho, he doesn't need much else

maybe a faster startup on neutral.

so combos are easier with silent treatment

[robust solstice]

The clone needs range or survivability
It's a lot of set up for somthing that only does somthing if your opponent let's it happen

[onyx sierra]

The clone is fine the way it is, the range is needed but other than that it's fine being a throw as it allows for a freeze into a combo

i do wish the clone could jump tho

[robust solstice]

Imagine if Marvin's rocket could be hit by 1 projectile and despawn or it vanishes after 2 lengths

[onyx sierra]

I do like how agent smith can destroy projectiles with his gun

[robust solstice]

That's the clone and I still think the rocket would preform better

[sharp fjord]

it is a special projectile tho, like Bugs safe

[robust solstice]

The safe got nerfed hard and now gets destroyed in 3 hits

[sharp fjord]

good

now you need to think before using it

[robust solstice]

And that's still infinity better then the clone

[onyx sierra]

the safe needed a nerf, it was able to hit you across the map

[robust solstice]

I hate the nerf only because my funny Marvin bugs combo now doesn't work aswell

[autumn estuary]

marvin is crazy overtuned and difficult to punish

[autumn estuary]

this is disgusting

[robust solstice]

What the safe chasing you is funny

As well as drifting rockets

[autumn estuary]

marvins are genetically predisposed to partying with other projectile spam someone should do a study on you people to find the gene

[robust solstice]

Would you of rather of had me neutral air the safe to deal 100+ dmg for 0 risk

[autumn estuary]

i would rather just block every marvin i see in-game and move on but blocking crashes the game half the time thanks PFG

marvin makes me remember why i quit the game the first time in beta

[sharp fjord]

marvin is kinda the reason I'm scared about balancing... I don't think they'd be willing to rework characters so soon

but a kit with 4 projectiles is just too much

It feels like they didn't come up with rules to create characters

that's why it's impossible to balance

rules like "hey, 2 projectiles tops per character"

or "hey, armors are only for tanks"

or "check all hitboxes before releasing the character"

[autumn estuary]

DDND rules, whatever, anything goes, who cares about the foundational structures of fighting games, just make it funny

[sharp fjord]

competitive games, especially fighting games, need to be fair... the way they're doing it, it can never be fair

[autumn estuary]

same reason you've never seen DDND at a tournament yeah

[sharp fjord]

what is DDND?

[autumn estuary]

I'd probably get profanity filtered if i typed out the full name just google it

[sharp fjord]

the fact that they kinda had their beta at Evo makes me think they, at least initially, wanted the game to be competitive

[devout sandal]

Please delete Townsville stage. The whole stage is trash. The hit box is amazingly off. Like I couldn’t make this stuff up!

[devout sandal]

This is the biggest one that needs addressing. The HITBOX in the game is horrible. Might be the worse out of most game like it.

[sharp fjord]

and remove all hitboxes that hit behind the characters... there's no counterplay for that

[crude wasp]

the game is fine but the difficulty on crushing needs to be turned down cause dying from 3 hits shouldnt be happening on hard and the bots on you team should acctually help you in fights and not just stand there

[sharp fjord]

super fun fighting IGs (sarcasm)... I literally did double the damage, but all that cheese killed me

the state of the game right now: throwing matches so I don't fight broken characters

[crude wasp]

the spamming of mooves and you cant do anything but die is also an issue

[glad laurel]

will multiversus make game faster?

[swift iris]

Big problem this game has is Rift. Your are forced to have a teammate to achieve everything and if you don’t you basically get nothing. They should just scrap rift rewards in general till they can fix the fact you can’t do these solo.

[olive mesa]

Crushing difficulty AI is basically top tier comboing one minute then dodging anything they can the next.

Also why is at least 1 of the difficulties locked in each rift, Insanity is locked in the first 3 and Experienced is locked in the last 4?

1 more thing, why is Experienced and Crushing locked in Age of Smith, like why both of them?

[sharp fjord]

this lack of communication is deafening

[lost oracle]

Dodging needs do be nerfed or deleted. Whiffing one button, and then getting comboed into a rock paper scissors for my stock is so frustrating, and these barely qualified receptionists that call themselves game devs are too money hungry to look at anything seriously wrong with the game, be it character balance, with Finn, Batman, Joker and Iron Giant STILL running roughshot, and not being able to hit them because they're Olympic level ice skaters with their dodging is so anti-fun. League of Legends is less frustrating.

[autumn estuary]

mad about dodges existing and can't get out of finn combos, checks out

[lost oracle]

Who said I can't get out of them? More feedback: Remove people not able to read from Discord.

[sharp fjord]

LOL... you want them to remove the only defense mechanism the game has...

seriously

[lost oracle]

You know a good defence mechanism? Parry. Actually well designed. Next comment.

[sharp fjord]

dude, you're the only person who thinks that way

keep trying to find someone who agrees

good luck with that

[sharp fjord]

Parry requires too much precision for the average player

For the casual audience

[lost oracle]

Okay, lets disagree, but having the games "only" defence mechanism is too strong against some characters. Why does finn get a dodge that takes him from edge to just under mid platform, and is still able to charge an attack while running? That's bad. Why does Batman get to have a strategy which covers full screen and still have access to dodge with an insane amount of iFrames that has good travel distance, AND his as hard as he does?

Yet lets say I play Jason, I do one attack, it gets dodged, and I'm still in animation recovery. That's bad. It also turns the game into an arial fighter for the wrong reasons.

Too much precision for the casual audience

Then up the activation frames

That's not aggression, that's a discussion

[remote dirge]

Grumpy why you always in game feedback💀

Im starting to think you don’t like this game

[remote dirge]

But I agree ngl

[sharp fjord]

I'm actually fighting to believe in this game

It's getting harder everyday

[remote dirge]

Parry should be too easier. It will make people less likely to throw out random attacks with like 0 end lag

And actually get punished

Like when have you every seen someone start up a attack and your first thought is let me parry it

[remote dirge]

You must be a really good player if you think like that

[lost oracle]

Also I'll add something else to my comment, using the dodge bar to be able to cancel dodge into attack, as well as burnout, great choices

[sharp fjord]

I understand this, but it takes some planning... If you know the enemy can dodge, expect that and save your resources for when they spend their dodges

[sharp fjord]

Now this I can agree 100%

[remote dirge]

Travel distance with Harley’s dodge nair is crazy work 😭

[sharp fjord]

People shouldnt be able to cancel moves into dodge

Like IG cancelling the dive

[remote dirge]

Oh I hate that

[sharp fjord]

Or Supes

[remote dirge]

It’s hard to punish it too

You can only dodge it

[sharp fjord]

Imagine fighting IG without dodge xD

His dash attack

Oof

[remote dirge]

Just give him the stock atp

[lost oracle]

I also want to put out there, I really like MV as a game, it's fun, to a degree, but I feel with characters being able to throw out attacks and dodge away if I try to punish and all of a sudden they're behind me and I'm ghetting punished is too strong.

[remote dirge]

I wonder what the future for iron giant will be like in the next 2 months

[lost oracle]

ALso agree with the IG cancels

[remote dirge]

Consistent nerfs is crazy

Since he game to this game

Patch after patch. even being removed from the game without having a glitch like Jason

[sharp fjord]

Remember dodge is a limited resource... When the enemy runs out of dodges, go full sayan on them

Gotta know when to invest your resources

[remote dirge]

It’s so hard to punish in this game it’s so annoying.

Throwing out a jab in the wrong direction doesn’t matter, you won’t hit the opponent because they can dodge instantly.

[remote dirge]

They can still get dodged just from hitting you

[sharp fjord]

My problem with this game is especially inconsistency... Some characters have it all, while others are useless

[remote dirge]

I also hate they run out of dodges and they dash dancing around

[remote dirge]

Fr

[sharp fjord]

There's only like 5-6 viable characters in the game

If you're not playing the meta you're gonna have a hard time

[remote dirge]

Who do you play?

Rick right?

[sharp fjord]

Rick QQ

I actually played many characters

[remote dirge]

I play meta💀

Well I consider Arya meta

Some people don’t idk why

[steady veldt]

Everyone has different opinions

[sharp fjord]

Arya is not, but she can be rough in the right hands

[remote dirge]

But I’m picking up asecondary

Im thinking of garnet

[sharp fjord]

She was my main for a bit

Garnet is overlooked imho

And Marvin

[steady veldt]

Partly why I play IG is because hes simple and meta

[sharp fjord]

I struggle A LOT vs Marvin

[steady veldt]

Hes good but man is he tough

[remote dirge]

Yea, She’s not even a bad character. People just says she bad because others say it

[sharp fjord]

I just think most people don't play garnet enough to get used to her kit

[unique summit]

batman needs to be nerfed theres no way his uppercut kills me at 80

[remote dirge]

I have the most issues against a t$j and ig

[sharp fjord]

But I've seen some crazy stuff by garnet

[sharp fjord]

Imho, even worse than his uppercut is his slide/kick combo

[steady veldt]

T&J are also very tough lol

[sharp fjord]

That thing is waaaaay overtuned

[lost oracle]

I said since say 1 that Batman's 123 is way too strong, and knocks people way too vertically

[steady veldt]

If you have dodges your chilling

[remote dirge]

No matter what character I always have a hard time fighting them

[lost oracle]

The divekick nerf was a great call but not enough

[remote dirge]

I also set myself a challenge to get 100 wins on Velma

So I’m playing her

[steady veldt]

Your also playing Arya who I’m guessing has many different routes depending on percents and weight

Nvm got confused

Ignore that

[remote dirge]

And losing against people who I know I would destroy on my main sucks so much

[sharp fjord]

It's so fkn hard to punish him, he's so fast

And those loops are ridiculous

[steady veldt]

Jerry shot is overpowered

[sharp fjord]

Spamming Jerry, and Jerry being super hard to kill

[remote dirge]

I hate him so much. I get more pissed seeing I’m up against a t&j than a iron giant

[sharp fjord]

We can't kill Jerry with armor breakers anymore

But, to me, the most sweaty matches are against Morty

[steady veldt]

Morty is absurd

[sharp fjord]

Jesus, I hate morty

[remote dirge]

This is very controversial but Jerry should be one hit bro 💀

[sharp fjord]

That dirt move needs a cooldown

[remote dirge]

Passive asf

[steady veldt]

I watched a vid of some guy fighting IG as Morty

[steady veldt]

Nerf it in someway

[sharp fjord]

And I don't understand why they didn't give it a cooldown yet

[remote dirge]

“Buff Morty or I retire 🥲”

[steady veldt]

Just giving things cooldowns is just weird

[unique summit]

Its way less common to kill early with IG

Ive had more problems with batman than ig

[steady veldt]

No

[lost oracle]

I main Harley & Jason, and honestly I mostly smile when I play Harley V IG because he's combo fodder, but cry as Jason because Jason is Jason

[remote dirge]

It shouldn’t change directions

That’s the only way

[steady veldt]

Honestly that isn’t actually a half bad nerf

Or change knockback in someway

[unique summit]

losing to IG is CRAZY 💀 especially while using your main

ima just leave it at that

[remote dirge]

Knock forward instead

[remote dirge]

Your acting like iron giant is a bad character

💀

[steady veldt]

He used to be

[unique summit]

never ever said that nor am i acting like it

[lost oracle]

Man forgot his Kappa

[remote dirge]

then why is it crazy losing against an iron giant

[unique summit]

But as someone recently said he's is literally combo fodder 😭

I rarely lose to em

[steady veldt]

Depends on how good the IG is

[unique summit]

real

[steady veldt]

Cause there is some garbo IGs

[remote dirge]

Maybe cause your going against trash iron giants

[unique summit]

Im literally not

but excuse

[remote dirge]

I go against ones who have like 5k+ wins

[unique summit]

bad**

[remote dirge]

I also went against one with 14k wins aswell

I have the pic

[unique summit]

Ive beat an ig with over 2000 ig wins b4

[unkempt anvil]

This chat is so cluttered man

[unique summit]

Hes predictable

[steady veldt]

Not wrong

[unkempt anvil]

How is anyone supposed to find game feedback when it’s a full convo in here

[steady veldt]

Kazuya in smash is also very predictable, doesn’t mean he isn’t strong

[unique summit]

Crying about a discord chat is crazy

[unkempt anvil]

Respectfully lol

[lost oracle]

The difference is

If I do a 100 hit combo on IG because he's combo fodder I take a stock
If IG hits me with a 100 hit combo it's because we're in the 33rd game because I lost to one hit every stock

[unique summit]

Im am not saying he isnt strong?

[remote dirge]

#clips message
Here’s me against a 14089 wins iron giant

2k is alright

[steady veldt]

Your also saying losing to one is crazy

[unique summit]

I swear I played him b4

a minute ago tho

[unique summit]

Because it is

[unkempt anvil]

“Crying” have a wonderful day you beautiful soul of a person. I hope you succeed in all your goals today.

[steady veldt]

I would say turn it into a discussion post format honestly

[steady veldt]

So hes strong but also you shouldn’t lose to him?

[unkempt anvil]

It needs to be almost “submit a ticket” type of discord

Keep the other discussion in character discussion tabs

[steady veldt]

Agreed

[unique summit]

Hes predictable

[remote dirge]

No its not. He’s the only character who gets consistent nerfs since release

[unique summit]

Jason is strong and I dont usually lose to em

[remote dirge]

Trash players are predictable

[unique summit]

ig is predictable asf

[steady veldt]

Part of being good at a platform fighter is mastering mix ups

[remote dirge]

When you go against iron giant mains who have atleast 5k wins on their character all the time it’s a diff playstyle

[steady veldt]

If you can’t mix up then you need to go to the drawing board

[unique summit]

Wait i gotta question

[remote dirge]

Go ahead

[unique summit]

You lost to that dude using arya?

No way 💀

[remote dirge]

Oh wow

[unique summit]

answer?

[remote dirge]

I lost to an iron giant who has 14089 wins

Who would have guessed

Oh no

[steady veldt]

That mu is also not good for Arya iirc

[remote dirge]

What should I do

💀

[unique summit]

eeek

😂

[remote dirge]

Nahh this dude is a troll

I would give it 7/10

[unique summit]

nothing to troll abt

really

[remote dirge]

Almost got me

Well you did

Ngl

[unique summit]

how?

[remote dirge]

“OMG there’s no way you lost to a iron giant who has 14089 wins on a light weight character “

“There’s no way 😹”

[steady veldt]

In smash Fox is really good but also really light

[remote dirge]

“I verse against iron giants with 2k wins”

[steady veldt]

Its why hes hard to master

Because you need precision

[unique summit]

arya has easy aerial combos u can quite literally juggle IG

[remote dirge]

Im not saying Arya isn’t good but one cheesy kill and Arya is dead

[sharp fjord]

You don't need precision as IG, wtf

That cat smash, for instance

Zero precision required

[steady veldt]

I’m talking about Fox above

[sharp fjord]

Oh, sorry

[remote dirge]

Who do you main?

[unique summit]

airwalker perk too

mann

[steady veldt]

I haven’t gone off the deep end after playing IG yet lol

[remote dirge]

Your acting like majority of the roster doesn’t combo iron giant

[unique summit]

Its way easier with arya tbh

[remote dirge]

You literally stated you went against a 2k iron giant and now your talking smack about me versing a guy 7 times the amount of wins

“Iron giant is predictable” your fighting trash bro

[unique summit]

I guessss 😂

arya with air walker perk i wouldve laughed facing an ig

[steady veldt]

Wait isn’t there a clip for it?

[remote dirge]

If I fought a trash players me too

[steady veldt]

I tried clicking on the link to clips but it didn’t work

[unique summit]

"trash players" i guessss 😂

coping go hardd

[remote dirge]

2k wins iron giant is your max

You said it yourself

Your passively tryna say iron giant is a bad character

[unique summit]

why do you keep flexing your L against some IG with 14k wins

You lost move on with that 😂

[remote dirge]

Why do you keep flexing your win against a 2k iron giant

[unique summit]

Im pretty positive you've lost to IG with less than 1000 wins

[unique summit]

Youve mentioned it more than me

lmfaoo

[remote dirge]

Ok. Continue playing against your bad opponents

[unique summit]

Real

[scarlet shore]

Little balance feedback batman causes wayyy too much hitstun for how bad the servers are and if you are gonna get rid of other characters loops but not get rid of his jab jab down tilt dodge repeat loop you devs look really dumb

[cinder sky]

I'd like to be able to change languages on console, I want the characters original voice

[scarlet shore]

Also batmans down special in the air is way too generous with his hitboxes literally the easiest way to kill an enemy on ledge is to spam that constantly

[unique summit]

Batman is a ridiculous character 🤦‍♂️

[scarlet shore]

Ur damn right

I feel like since you never see em thats why they aint touchin him

But thats because there are more fun ways to win easily

[autumn estuary]

honestly bro how will the devs ever see how urgent it is to make an announcer pack/banner/profile icon bundle for Fern with all this yapping? i need something to spend money on.

[unique summit]

😂

[unique summit]

He's honestly super easy and I hate it

[scarlet shore]

Didnt fern have an announcer in beta or am i just stupid

[unique summit]

takes no skill just to uppercut and kill at 80

[remote dirge]

Die at 80 to Batman is crazy work💀

[unique summit]

You suck

[scarlet shore]

Or run away and spam batarang and dodge like a morty main no offense

[remote dirge]

Im not the one who died

[autumn estuary]

finn has one but if fern did have one they would have included it in the Between Two Finns bundle i didn't get fern in beta

[unique summit]

You're getter mopped by IG players btw

lmfaoo

[unique summit]

Real

[remote dirge]

Iron giant isn’t Batman 🤷

[scarlet shore]

Iron giant honestly aint that hard to fight

[unique summit]

Obviously and thats why u suck

[remote dirge]

Batman isn’t even A tier

[unique summit]

Real

[remote dirge]

😭😭😭

[unique summit]

according to who

you?

[remote dirge]

But you do you

[unique summit]

lmfaooo

[unique summit]

Worst take ive seen in a minute

[scarlet shore]

I think u smokin that dummy pack batman is more than a tier hes prolly one of the only top tiers left after the s tier slaughter

[sharp fjord]

Jesus, you guys still on about this IG

[remote dirge]

Rank Batman then

[unique summit]

💯

[unique summit]

A tier easily

[remote dirge]

I didn’t mention it💀

[scarlet shore]

If he aint s hes tippy top of a tier

Nowhere below it

[unique summit]

I wasnt even conversating with him he just wants my attention

[remote dirge]

I was talking about Batman this dofus decided to bring up ig

[remote dirge]

You reply to me first

You do realise

[unique summit]

Literally didnt

"losing to batman is crazy"

[sharp fjord]

Kids, go each to your room and think about what you're doing here

[scarlet shore]

U brought up iron giant first when u came back to this convo

[unique summit]

cringe asf

demo throw in the towel this game honestly isnt for you

[remote dirge]

First time

[scarlet shore]

That was the worst attempt at grammar ive seen

[remote dirge]

I didn’t say that losing to Batman is crazy bro

[unique summit]

I guess

[remote dirge]

Is dying losing?

😭

[unique summit]

yes

[remote dirge]

So if you beat your opponent 3-1

You lost?

[unique summit]

Dying is quite literally the process of losing

use your brain

ur just trying ur hardest to be right

[remote dirge]

🤦 all I said was dying at 80 is crazy

There are 3 lives

[unique summit]

Thanks for reminding me dude

[remote dirge]

If I wanted to say losing I would

[unique summit]

Honestly dont care

[remote dirge]

Ok good

[scarlet shore]

Tf did i walk back in on

[unique summit]

This kid wants a convo out of me so bad

its odd

[autumn estuary]

semantics hour

[scarlet shore]

Honestly ignore him

[unique summit]

💯

[remote dirge]

Will Velma get hitstun buff?

[unique summit]

🌽

[scarlet shore]

Or yk what who do you main i can settle this

[scarlet shore]

Hopefully never id prefer to never see a velma again

[remote dirge]

I main arya

[remote dirge]

It’s not like you will see her anyways in higher mmr

But she does deserve a chance

[autumn estuary]

some of yall afraid to be corny but i was born on the cob

[scarlet shore]

Ah ok so you main the character that can combo for free

[remote dirge]

Her kit isn’t really that special or sum

[remote dirge]

Hmm if you see it like that then yea

I main a heavy combo character

[scarlet shore]

The only cool thing arya can do is use matchup specific combos

But the devs hate you guys so much because those cool combos dont hold a candle to her normal combos

[remote dirge]

Yea you need to know your enemies weight class for certain combos. cause sometimes you can’t hit Airwalker on smaller targets

Like gizmo is if they dodge away

[scarlet shore]

Gizmo is just the peak of annoyance in this game

[remote dirge]

I swear

[scarlet shore]

Only character i put above him is jake

[autumn estuary]

gizmo avoids so many attacks this is in no way arya specific tech

[scarlet shore]

Not that jake is good hes just annoying

[remote dirge]

If I get good at parrying I would love to hit this combo in a game #combos message

[remote dirge]

Yea small characters are kinda annoying

[autumn estuary]

this is the feedback channel

[remote dirge]

All he has is his sair ngl

[scarlet shore]

Istg fighting batman feels like smash 64

[remote dirge]

It’s so annoying I have to burn my dodge attacks. (Down tilt)

[scarlet shore]

So much damn hitstun even when i win im just happy the match is over

[remote dirge]

Just to approach a Jake

[remote dirge]

mb mb

[remote dirge]

If you could remove one character from the game

Which you choosing?

[autumn estuary]

tom & jerry i just want to see gsmvoid seethe

[remote dirge]

I always have a hard time fighting them

Every character I play

[fleet garnet]

Would love to see better career rewards, lvl31 being 700 perk currency isnt great 🙂

[remote dirge]

I think it’s just cause of their passive playstyle

[remote dirge]

Same with Morty passive too

[autumn estuary]

if they're bad enough they leave jerry unattended long enough to let me kill they're manageable but the second they learn to just run after the mouse it's over

[scarlet shore]

Tbh a better question is if you could replace a character with another character who would you pick

And for me thats pretty easy

It aint black adam he helps me cheese rifts

I used to play lebron a lot but rn i wouldnt mind replacing him

[autumn estuary]

banana guard with pearl, this isn't even a question it's objective fact

[scarlet shore]

Id replace lebron with another person from real life

[steady veldt]

I would replace Jake with plastic Man

[scarlet shore]

Prolly Oliver Tree just a much better irl pick easier to get rights for and the best meme pick of all time

[autumn estuary]

who

[scarlet shore]

Hes this crappy musician whos entire career is a meme

[remote dirge]

Iron giant for raven

[scarlet shore]

Atlantic owns him and wb owns atlantic

[autumn estuary]

yeah nobody would play that you'd get more weird al mains than whatever this niche thing is

[scarlet shore]

The outfits would be funny and the fact he'd use a scooter as weapon would be unique

[remote dirge]

Iron giant getting consistent nerfs anyways(patch after patch). They gonna continue until he’s unplayable or completely reworked in comparison to season 1 release

[autumn estuary]

Sounds like stripe skateboard with a more annoying hitbox, pass

[scarlet shore]

If we're talking straight cartoon network id prolly replace banana guard with muscleman or captain k nuckles

[olive mesa]

Black Adam and LeBron for literally anyone else. They were solely added for promotional purposes

[scarlet shore]

Its bound to happen eventually

When those 3 i mentioned get in im solo maining those 3

[remote dirge]

Lebron needs a damage buff

[autumn estuary]

well not whatever literally who you're talking about no. shawshank redemption rep is more likely that that

[scarlet shore]

No lebron does damage well hes just a 1 trick pony and nothing else

[scarlet shore]

I think youve been living under a rock

Just due to him being big on tik tok and knowing these devs i can see it happening within the 1st hundred characters added to the game

[autumn estuary]

I really think you're talking about some niche tumblr woobie boy or something

[remote dirge]

Look at this and tell me if he does damage - #combos message
Literally 15 combo inputs and 80 damage

That’s about 5 damage per input

[scarlet shore]

Hes anything but niche

[autumn estuary]

please understand being popular on tiktok means next to nothing in the real world

[scarlet shore]

I aint tryna start an argument over something this stupid but you do realize we are talking about a game right? Not real life

[onyx sierra]

I beg of this game, please make gizmo's hurtbox larger he's so hard to Hit and it's so annoying

[scarlet shore]

I 2nd this

[primal glade]

i hope that you guys will host big tournaments for this game

[remote dirge]

He ruins so many combos 😡

[autumn estuary]

I'm talking about how incredibly unlikely some new flash-in-the-pan from tiktok is going to be added to this here platform fighting video game

[remote dirge]

Well well well

Look what we have here

[onyx sierra]

Istg he's so fast and has the smallest hitbox so i can't land any attacks at all

[remote dirge]

A gizmo

[olive mesa]

They’ll have to since locals will have to spend like $260 for characters alone

[remote dirge]

And he does decent damage too

[primal glade]

yessir the cute broken character

[remote dirge]

Learning gizmo is a great investment

[onyx sierra]

agent smith vs gizmo is hell

[remote dirge]

Doesn’t have to worry about nerfs

[olive mesa]

Jerry Smith skin for Agent Smith

[remote dirge]

Mvs won’t nerf him 💀

[autumn estuary]

doofus jerry agent smith skin would go hard though

[primal glade]

they did like 2 times but still too good

[olive mesa]

100%

[scarlet shore]

Thats a fair point made by someone whos never heard of him before but i can assure you hes not flash in the pan hes been big for almost a decade

[autumn estuary]

yet this entire decade you are the first person i've ever seen talk about this fella on the internet or in real life, interesting

[remote dirge]

Damn I didn’t know, But it’s crazy buffs and nerfs are barely having an impact to characters rankings.

They gave Velma a huge buff yet she still the worst

Except from release characters nerfs

[primal glade]

fr

[remote dirge]

Like banana guard. He was crazy or maybe we wasn’t adjusted to him yet

[scarlet shore]

I guess you are not in the same social and internet groups as me but trust me his numbers are quite big and im willing to believe youve never heard of him or ever considered him and truly idc what you think about him im merely trying to prepare you for an inevitability

[primal glade]

look at combos chat

[autumn estuary]

Uno reverse card i'm preparing you for an inevitability. I browse social media circles for music nobody talks about this guy warner brothers has so many other characters that are far more recognizable to their target audience

[scarlet shore]

Whatever you say dawg whatever you say

Anyways id like to post something here that honestly belongs here

Morty's dirt should have a massive cooldown or it should send away from him not towards him simple choice

[autumn estuary]

idk about breaking every combo that includes the dirt completely

[scarlet shore]

Then they should put it on cooldown

Because all mortys ever do is run away and hide behind dirt

[remote dirge]

No cool down and no away. I got a better solution

Don’t change the direction or hit up

[scarlet shore]

It aint fun to fight im 99% sure it aint fun to play as

[remote dirge]

😎

[scarlet shore]

I dont even know what ur talking about

[remote dirge]

Morty dirt

It shouldn’t change direction why active

That would be a better nerf and still good for Morty mains

[autumn estuary]

I guarantee you you bring that guy to the suits at warner brothers and say you want to add this guy they're literally not even going to remember they have any ties to him

[onyx sierra]

I say finn's up special should have a cooldown

[remote dirge]

💀

[primal glade]

finns not even good

[autumn estuary]

bro is still playing the beta

[remote dirge]

Cool down on a simple attack is crazy

[onyx sierra]

seriously tho i hate finn.

[remote dirge]

How he gonna recover?

[onyx sierra]

Not for him being overpowered he's just irritating

[onyx sierra]

idk

[remote dirge]

💀💀💀

[autumn estuary]

i pray you never learn how to deal with the easiest combos in the game to get out of inshallah 🙏

[onyx sierra]

every finn i go against are always salty little gremlins

[remote dirge]

You could have said nerf the knockback but cooldown is crazy

[onyx sierra]

they just tbag and never rematch

[primal glade]

what you say about gremlins

[autumn estuary]

Who are you playing? I refuse to rematch certain matchups that could be why

[scarlet shore]

Dawg ur still on that? I dont like to bring the whole were worried about you card to the table but fr y

[onyx sierra]

i'd nerf the hitbox personally, whenever i dodge it always hits me

[onyx sierra]

agent smith dawg

[remote dirge]

Makes sense

[onyx sierra]

how?

he's one of the easiest characters to go against unless it's a pro player

[primal glade]

i always do first to 2 but some people leave after 1 win

[remote dirge]

But shouldn’t this match up work in agents favor?

[onyx sierra]

smith is not as fast as finn, also doesn't have good melee range other than the specials but other than that it's okay

finn's sword has good range

same with his backpack so most of the time you're gonna be in the air as ground combat is 10x harder

[autumn estuary]

it does lol

[onyx sierra]

out of the roster to me he's the most annoying to fight.

besides iron giant, but he's relatively easy to fight besides the one time i got rung out by 2 attacks from him

nerfing arya is crazy

[scarlet shore]

Honestly they need to fix dodging in this game

Half the time it says i dodge im still hit by the attack im dodging

[onyx sierra]

dodgeing and parrying in this game sucks, parries don't even feel rewarding because it's so short you ahve no time to react

[scarlet shore]

Yes i know multihits are practically undodgeable not what im talking about

[autumn estuary]

arya downplaying again 💀

[scarlet shore]

I dont like when i parry someone and they end up inside me instead of where they attacked from which would make it easier to punish them

Should take half with how much they spam it

[onyx sierra]

dodgeing is just dumb to me, smash has shields which idk what that was like as i never used them. You'd have the perfect setup or have a good idea for combos and someone pressed dodge once and everything's destroyed

[autumn estuary]

as someone who complains about finn, do you really want to not be able to dodge anything he does

[onyx sierra]

I just don't like how the dodge system works, it takes no thought and ruins so many things you could do.

also i only complain about finn because he gives me a migrane whenever i fight him

[remote dirge]

Het up special hitstun frames is the only thing that needs a nerf

Airwalker shouldn’t hit on dodge away

It’s too good and I main Arya

[onyx sierra]

last time i fought an arya i got comboed to hell

[primal glade]

yea i feel like multi hit moves like iron giants spinning attack should be like if you dodge it the whole move is dodged

[scarlet shore]

I agree

[autumn estuary]

This would actually be good balance for finn bag thank you

[onyx sierra]

see that's good

[scarlet shore]

Honestly thats the way dodging should work in this game

[onyx sierra]

I remember iron giant rung me because he used the spin and then uppercutted then rung me out

I still wish they didn't change the hud.

it's been said like 100 times, but this fortnite lookin hud sucks

[scarlet shore]

To me its an upgrade from beta but some things suck

[onyx sierra]

i like the character select in the beta, it felt unique

[scarlet shore]

Yeah the fact we cant change perks mid set or characters sucks

They better change that

[lost oracle]

Does anybody have a screenshot of just how big WW's side special hitbox is because I was behind her by a good distance and that was hitting

[scarlet shore]

No but on my new jason voorhees comp on youtube i have an image towards the end of the vid that shows how big her FAir hitbox is and lets just say it aint very fair

Eh eh yeah ill let myself out

[lost oracle]

I'm about to post to clips I'm just editing down the vid now

[scarlet shore]

Oh nice

Id love to watch more content from this game

[lost oracle]

You forgot the /s

[scarlet shore]

Even low quality edits like my vids are entertaining

/s ?

[lost oracle]

Stands fo sarcasm

[scarlet shore]

Ah fair

Still send em to me in the dms when ur done wit them as im not sure this server has a proper place for self promotion

[steady veldt]

Has a clips channel

[scarlet shore]

Is it for posting yt links or for people who have nitro and can post clips bigger than 8mb

[lost oracle]

https://discord.com/channels/879970800734711808/1009538859417215147

[autumn estuary]

might be a jason moment

[scarlet shore]

Its both jason and ww moment imo

Jasons hurtbox is legit a box 1.5x the size of him

[autumn estuary]

I know if you dodge through that as arya her feet get stuck in the hitbox and it connects which is absolute cow puck

[scarlet shore]

Fr fr

[autumn estuary]

probably garnet too but i haven't touched her much since beta

[scarlet shore]

Giant honestly shouldnt even have a dodge meter its only good for movement that guy cant dodge nothing

[quaint gust]

I feel like PvP badges should just be 5 stars instead of two.
And if there’s only one more top dog challenge for season 1,
can I only earn 4 stars on my
top dog pvp badge now?

[primal glade]

You can change your perk sets

can you guys also fix the spectate mode freeze bug

[winged jungle]

Remove "The City of Townsville" from 1v1s
It's so boring and lame, you are pretty much on a 1v2

[autumn estuary]

it's a 1v1v1 let's be real

[novel lake]

Yeah, I agree. I hate that stage because of the laser.

[autumn estuary]

usually in 1v1s we just agree to wait out the laser on opposite sides of it

i like the wordless communication on how much nobody wants to deal with this crap

[novel lake]

I just usually duck under it but that doesn't stop my opponent from attacking me. 😅

[autumn estuary]

I prefer to get on top of the ship

[novel lake]

Yeah, that's my other way as well. Just depends on where I am on the map.

[autumn estuary]

try to base it more on where the enemy is on the map next time, you almost always have time to pick once you hear the voiceline

[novel lake]

Yeah, I know that. But the time I hear it I just duck under it.

[autumn estuary]

sometimes you have to rework your habits a little

[novel lake]

Yeah probably. Also sometimes the hitscan on it is a bit off.

[distant parrot]

idk if its a bug or on purpose but 50 perk currency, 50 fighter currency, and 50 gelimum at random for infinite battle pass tier is not good

they should be portional to eachother

give 150 figher currency

give 1k perk currency

glemium can stay the same

[autumn estuary]

monkey's paw: they all become proportional to 50 perk currency

[distant parrot]

but 50 perk currency is not anywhere near the value of 50 glemium

its less than a penny

50 gleimum is literally 50 cents

[autumn estuary]

you get 1 gleamium, you like?

[distant parrot]

if we go by character prices

3k FC or 1k Glemium

FC is 1/3rd the value of glemium

[distant parrot]

they would do that

the infinite tier is valueless outside the gleimum

i want it to actually be worth leveling up

[autumn estuary]

just acquire more luck i've rolled the gleamium like 6 times already

[distant parrot]

i thought it would be cool to get something after the BP is complete to keep grinding but you cant farm anything at a reasonable rate

so have i

i dont need more glemium

i need more fighters

[autumn estuary]

i need a fern announcer pack/banner/profile icon and that will probably cost gleamium

[novel lake]

I think the Ai's for the rifts need to buff. Sometimes when I have one there completely useless.

[distant parrot]

i got 2k glemium as a pure free 2 play player

[olive mesa]

I have decided not to spend any money on the game until we get a purchasable founder’s pack like deal

[distant parrot]

i would be more willing to pay 30 dollars for a complete and finished game with all characters than i would be willing to grind

but this game does not do either

[autumn estuary]

I didnt get fern in beta because i thought finn was scummy to play so i had to buy it for legendary price and i don't have his ringout yet 💀

[olive mesa]

The founder’s pack, while arguably overpriced for what they offered, were like that but they were only available during the “beta”

[fallen moth]

It feels like if you have 3 gems that are level 10 and you go on looney mode it still doesn't do a lot of damage and not that it should do an instant kill but it would feel more rewarding leveling them up to be able to do a bit more damage so that some rifts are manageable to play through

[boreal python]

Are the level 10 gems any different than level 9? I feel like most of them show the same % numbers as lvl 9.

Also question, does anyone know if there is dx12 for this game on steam?

[olive mesa]

What’s dx12?

[boreal python]

DirectX12, its the graphics api. I'm not really an expert on it, I've just noticed dx12 runs better than dx11 on my amd pc.

[fallen moth]

The difference seems more present in the early rifts but not much on looney imo

[eternal pilot]

TiER 100 battle pass …

Please thank you love you bye

[fathom kelp]

rick jab is so broken

[primal glade]

bro fix spectating mode plz

how did you not test this

they were so hyped to release it in the stage like what

[balmy bloom]

Anyone else cant play ffa like at all?

It always disconnects at the start

Always

[primal glade]

always works for me

[onyx sierra]

fighters need to be cheaper

i feel the way fighter currency is gained, and the way fighters are unlocked is not that good.

especially since you don't get any from matches last time i checked

lower it to like 1k, and have expensive fighters be 3k instead like the joker etc.

[tawny ferry]

i think you gotta be careful about character prices
you wanna keep that economy balanced
like yeah they could stand to be cheaper
but if theyre too cheap then theyll get bought up easily and the fighter currency will basically be stockpiled
and i dont think pfg wants that

i think maybe 2000-2500 would be a better price

[onyx sierra]

probably, it just feels a bit too much work for new players yknow, since they only get like 3 characters to start with and have to grind to unlock more

they don't get as much variety until later

[tawny ferry]

id say that new players should be given more characters at the start
like shaggy, batman, and bugs would be a good three characters to give to everyone
theyre the main characters promoted for multiversus

and itd help out newer players so they arent stuck playying shaggy for a while

[onyx sierra]

batman should definately, as he's a perfect basic character to be given

also he's pretty much the face of dc

[tawny ferry]

yeah
i think giving people three free characters at the start along with reducing the price a bit would go a long way to making the game less grindy

[onyx sierra]

one way they could do it is they lower the price until you buy one new character then it changes to normal pricing

so like a new player discount

[shell mirage]

Add Agent Trump Skin dodging bullets like its the matrix

[onyx sierra]

❔ dude what. get outta here

[tawny ferry]

that sounds like a decent idea
though it could lead to some worry for new players as theyd obsess over choosing the right character to buy with the discount

[shell mirage]

? Would be funny and adding a historical event would be cool

[tawny ferry]

maybe make it like a single use ticket item
give every player one at the start and they could use it whenever they want to get a discount on a fighter

they could use it for the first one they buy or some other fighter

idk if it should be allowed to be used on fighters with higher costs like the joker

[onyx sierra]

adding politics into a funny game like this is wild

[shell mirage]

We would need them to be used in the traing room

[shell mirage]

Its a historical event its not really "Politics"

[tawny ferry]

dude just drop it
theyre not going to add a politician to this game

[onyx sierra]

💀 still they don't need to add trump into multivbersus

[tawny ferry]

like, the only reason lebron is allowed to be in here is because he was in space jam 2

[shell mirage]

Idk why not make it be used for any character lmao the discount doesnt cost anything

[onyx sierra]

adding trump into multiversus is like adding sour milk to a cereal bowl

[shell mirage]

Its not adding him its making a skin lol

[tawny ferry]

yeah its just a stupid meme suggestion

[onyx sierra]

now a politician that i would want to be added is mr frog!

[shell mirage]

no SH** the devs are from Cali

[tawny ferry]

a smiling friends character would be fun actually
they dont have that much moveset potential but theyd have some fun animations and dialogue

[onyx sierra]

mr boss would make the most sense tbh

[tawny ferry]

trump in mulitversus is not happening

[onyx sierra]

he already has a fighting game counterpart

in the show

[tawny ferry]

true lol

[shell mirage]

trump as a skin* is not happening

[onyx sierra]

slap assassin on that mofo and boom

[shell mirage]

no need to strawman a meme bro

[onyx sierra]

dang man they banned gifs

[shell mirage]

Why do u think your discount thing shouldnt be used on new characters?

[tawny ferry]

i mean it can if you want i guess

[onyx sierra]

not on new character's new players

[shell mirage]

You didnt read what he said

[olive mesa]

Honestly, it’s basically gambling when you buy a new character without playing with it as a guest in rift

[shell mirage]

^ which is why i said

that we need them back in training room

[onyx sierra]

they are in training room tho.

[olive mesa]

And why would I pay 15 bucks for a skin of a character I don’t like to play as?

[shell mirage]

Not only that but make it possible to jump in with friends and test them out in mock fights

[shell mirage]

They are not? Where have you been LMFAOOO