game-feedback

[still hull]

just put attack decay back in the game after 3 uses, super simple

[polar saffron]

Believe me couldn't care less about the whole argument just salty that it's a boring character is all

[hallow torrent]

attack delay is still in the game, it lowers knockback and damage

it just doesn't lower histun and doesn't tell you that it's there

[worldly timber]

I would say that jason is interesting of a character based on what Juno has been saying

[hallow torrent]

oh no Jason is definitely cool

[worldly timber]

He's got grabs, and decent damn pressure

[hallow torrent]

I'd also like to see airgrab be a little faster, I think it should be an actual tool haha

[true nebula]

It is? I swear the amount of shaggys I’ve played today that get so much value off of spamming side special with no repercussions it feels like made me feel it’s just gone

[sturdy moat]

Just wanted say that I hate how close up the game is now, could we have an option to change how close or far the game is? Like I wanna see the stage properly

[worldly timber]

boring from the perspective of being just mistied the entire time yeah but get him in labs (if you have him) and mess aaround with his kit and youll see what we mean

[hallow torrent]

if you're getting hit by a shaggy spamming side special I have very unfortunate news for you

[true nebula]

Oh not on me lmao I have a duo who is a certain calibre of player

[worldly timber]

glad to see im not the only one noticing that. I wanted to compare his feel to Ganondorf and was always expecting the grab to be quicker in the air but just suprised by how super slow it was

[true nebula]

It just seemed like a lot of damage was being racked up too fast

[polar saffron]

Same was about to mention that I feel sick from this had the same problem with brawlhall that's why I only played it for a weak then quit

[worldly timber]

honestly playing jason like ganondork helped my game feel with him

[gaunt pier]

Then it is what it is. I'm a Finn main so I get no hoes, lmao. If you find a character boring, then that's it. It's just that when someone states they dislike a character and someone disagrees, it ain't your fault I promise, lol. People at times take it as an personal attack which is strange. Have fun, enjoy what the game is, stuff like that, if possible.

[low wren]

nice looking menu from "it was beta all along" turned into a mobile game, it straight up looks 1:1 as... what's the name, Marvel Snap? that's the one.

also Sloooooow combat... Why? If you wanted to make the game easier for younger audience, maybe you'd want to make menus less convoluted as well?

[hallow torrent]

hit them until they learn how to parry lol

[sturdy moat]

Like all it needs is an option in the settings and it'll be fine lmao

[hallow torrent]

the menus look way better tho

[worldly timber]

How everyone learns a fighting game

[hallow torrent]

like they're actually usable

beta menus were awful

and the combat is slow because top level was insanely unfun during beta

[true nebula]

I tried to 1v1 them and I can’t lie idk if they got above 50 damage on me at any point lol

[worldly timber]

You gotta start them on square one again

[hallow torrent]

it's a change to make the game more readable, easier to play casually and more interesting at high level

[worldly timber]

its time

[hallow torrent]

because believe me

when every character in the game had an easy infinite 1v1s were dead

and WW/Velma made 2v2 dead

[true nebula]

I dislike the game being as slow as it is but I do agree it also shouldn’t be AS fast as it was

Somewhere in the middle would be nice

[hallow torrent]

I'd like a few tweaks to make it faster

but like

[still hull]

1.3x speed would be fine

[hallow torrent]

this is much better than beta lol

[still hull]

it

it's a little slow*

[gaunt pier]

Same.

[tall heron]

Would like to earn Battle Pass XP outside of missions, even a minimal amount of Battle Pass XP for matches.

When all missions are complete there's not really much motivation to play if you're not bothered about the Rifts.

[hallow torrent]

also depending on who you play the game is still plenty fast and complicated

[worldly pendant]

I’m sure this has been complained about but why is there no side/neutral swap option anymore?

[hallow torrent]

looking at you Arya/LeBron/TnJ/Marvin/Spike

[worldly pendant]

It’s hard getting. Used to

[gaunt pier]

I just did lmao. I'm not getting used to this. It's really odd.

[worldly timber]

This entire convo got me ready to hop back in pvp again lmao

[true nebula]

Tbf my complaints about speed could just be getting used to it all, possibly just a little salty as a Harley main who feels a little bit like my expression on the character has been reduced

[polar saffron]

Ok soo someone tell me WHY IS THE TRAINING MENU SETTINGS SOO BAD

Bro I have to press press press and then I mess up soo I have to press press press press press untill I mess up again then get it

Why did they make it sooooo much worse or is there another eay to control it

[worldly pendant]

Im just confused on why it was removed

[teal folio]

They took out a lot of quality of life typa things idk the word to describe it but like for example you cant see the damage and ringouts per person after a game and like the little circle for charged attacks that shows you how much charge they have like it just feels worse also super choppy on xbox

[worldly timber]

I just want my garnet twitch reward

[worldly pendant]

Surely a lot of players used it

[hallow torrent]

i mean harley was undoubtedly top 3

the reason your stuff got nerfed is because of her bevy of infinites

Supes, Velma, Harley and Bugs have all been heavily toned down for that reason

[narrow merlin]

xbox series s version freezes so often. Its not optimized.... Also the game is so slow now....

[hallow torrent]

shockingly Morty is still busted and probably top 1 in 2v2s rn but like

whatever lmao Morty is a cooler character than those

[true nebula]

I will say as much as I know it’s kind of hypocritical I’m glad that the other characters got their nerfs like that and Ik for the health of the game it’s good that Harley got hit by that nerf too it just hurts a tad bit yk lmao

[hallow torrent]

how he got away with murder idk

[gaunt pier]

I'm just convinced this game needed more time in the vault tbh. A literal one more year would have been fine to smooth out the rest of the game.

[narrow merlin]

the beta was smooth on xbox one x
how is it so bad on series s??

[true nebula]

Like I said anyway, maybe I just need more time with the game (preferably less laggy) to figure out some more stuff cos it’s not like the game feels unplayable with its change in speed and that one perk makes it a bit better anyway

Might try some new characters out as well to see if I can make some adjustments with this new speed

[gaunt pier]

I agree.

[mighty vigil]

i just really really dont like how dodging feels now tbh,i think the speed decrease of characters is fine but the dodge kinda killed it for me

[verbal girder]

the game feels unplayable at times with any tank due to the lag. any

[narrow merlin]

the dodge is unresponsive and the gameplay is sooo slow. It feels slugish

[hallow torrent]

I mean I hate to say it but this is a skill issue lmao

I've been playing Jason and IJ a lot and they're fine

[verbal girder]

it definitely could but the lag has caused me to disconnect from more matches than I've actually played

[hallow torrent]

sounds like an internet issue

I've been playing EU > NA no issues

[verbal girder]

my Internet and connection to any other game is fine

[shut thistle]

the game is the same as beta, the game is slow asf, they need to change the speed of the gameplay if they wanna keep it alive

[hallow torrent]

beta was fast asf tho lmao

[gaunt pier]

The skill issue mindset isn't always valid and I can te that multiple people are going through the same thing and my connection is sexy, lmao. I even experienced.

[shut thistle]

thats is not a fast gameplay tbh

[verbal girder]

the issue seems to be a desync issue or at least that's what I have

[devout bear]

Literally made players not spam the same move it's worse they got rid of it but added the dodge cool down.

[topaz iron]

nerf jason

mf has unlimited tp amd can spam it

[devout bear]

Iron Giant is fine but Jason is too god damn slow.

[spring meadow]

frrrrr. Like everything feels so clunkly

[gaunt pier]

Uh. I gotta hit ya with a reality check. The beta definitely was fast pace, there's no denying that and there's a night and day difference if you look at a side by side comparison. Idk where you got this one, but you're just flat out wrong.

[hallow torrent]

it is still in the game

lmao

[still hull]

for 2 instances, not like it used to be at all dude.

[tough stirrup]

i think its time we take another year break and focus on balancing so the game dosent die again cause if it dies again their will be no next time

also add the perks

[gaunt pier]

I said something similar earlier.

[tough stirrup]

that were previously in the game

[tough stirrup]

they prob wont even read this but ayy atleast we tried

[devout bear]

Really? I havent seen it. I lterally spammed the smoke bomb just for fun and got 0 attack decay.

[shut thistle]

its gonna die again, they have a hole year and do nothing

[tough stirrup]

i give the game a couple of weeks mabye a month and a half if it continues at this pace before it dies

[gaunt pier]

Same.

[tough stirrup]

wonder women jason bugs bunny and jake all need a nerf

[devout bear]

Fr. Wtf happened to all the perks? Took away the creativity.

[shut thistle]

nah, just jason is op

[tough stirrup]

legit

makes zero sense

they made it impossible for people

[frozen patrol]

need to bring back stats at the end of matches

[tough stirrup]

that dont wanna play tank characters too fight back

[devout bear]

Exactly. But hey glad we got a perk that buffs the enemy when we taunt

[tough stirrup]

they also removed global features like knowing ur standing in the game and etc that made the game cool and unique

[solemn tartan]

why does this game feel like im playing brawl now? is it just lag or?

[devout bear]

And they removed the Stats at the end of a match.

Like. Aren't we suppose to be getting more, not less?

[tough stirrup]

if they know whats good for them their gonna take the game down asap or put it on maintanence and get a dev team with an actual head so they can balance the game

[hallow torrent]

attack delay is on damage and knockback, not hitstun, and it doesn't say when it happens

closer to staling from Smash

[knotty aurora]

They fr need to take it down for a few hours or days and fix this mess

[tough stirrup]

yeah everything about this game is backwards they pretty much removed 90% of the enjoyable content and added stuff nobodys wants

[hallow torrent]

people used this to harass people in random 2s matches. Blame the community

[tough stirrup]

yeah

but they wont listen

im guessing this is a cash grab

[devout bear]

Still did the same damage and knock back when I kept spamming the move. That or they just heavily nerfed it.

[tough stirrup]

cause no way do you spend a year and a half

[hallow torrent]

what is "this mess" lmao

[tough stirrup]

making a game

and its this bad

[hallow torrent]

the game is better in most ways

i think yall are just misremembering old mvs

[neon current]

We really need a few things back. Including the ability to turn off the team colors. Outlines are fine, but every character filtered through a color is obnoxious and honestly an eyesore (literally, my eyes are hurting trying to keep track.)

[hallow torrent]

or never got infinited

[tough stirrup]

its not

[solemn tartan]

seriously though why is the hitstun so bad, i feel like im slogging through butter

[tough stirrup]

i played the beta

[hallow torrent]

for how long

[tough stirrup]

the beta was 100x more enjoyable

[glossy maple]

Naw it’s not a cash grab. They’ve just made some bad decisions. In my opinion anyway:

[tough stirrup]

then this

[hallow torrent]

because like

I carried on playing during shutdown on parsec lmao

[scenic harbor]

are you off ur rocker?

[tough stirrup]

for like 2 and a half months then school started

[knotty aurora]

Are you serious? Do you not actually see what is wrong with the game now? You have to be trolling

[tough stirrup]

for me

[hallow torrent]

1k hours lol

I have been actively grinding through shutdown

[solemn tartan]

just because you have 1k hours doesn't mean your correct lol

[tough stirrup]

fr

[knotty aurora]

What does that have to do with the issues with the game?

[hallow torrent]

they fixed a lot of the genuine issues with the gameplay of the game

there are some problems

[tough stirrup]

just means ur addicted

[hallow torrent]

but if this is how they're removing infinites I'll take it lol

[solemn tartan]

and introduced like 30 more

[neon current]

Most, but not all. No offline. Team colors always on. Several earned cosmetics and announcers packs missing

[gaunt pier]

Well, let's be real. Their real money maker is the cosmetics and the battle pass soon for sure. However with the way of the game is, I highly doubt they're making money. So, they need to act fast tbh.

[tough stirrup]

are you gonna make and argument or just say nothing

[true nebula]

The fact you guys have not yet clarified “the mess” kind of proves Juno’s point, no?

[hallow torrent]

Offline is a huge issue and I have complained directly to the dev team about it

Team Colours are a known bug

[knotty aurora]

This person must not know that matchmaking is broken and rematching sometimes doesn't work and you cant even toast people and the rift mode is lame

[polar saffron]

What is your in game name because I played a game like that 45min ago and made me lose my mind

Was playing buggs

[tough stirrup]

agreed but also i have seen alot of people saying they already bought the battle pass in the server

[hallow torrent]

many of the earned cosmetics were removed due to licensing reasons or voice actor problems, and will be returned/refunded where possible. Others are just a bug due to the 200k concurrent players at launch lol

[neon current]

I appreciate that. No offline is a huge problem for game archiving

[hallow torrent]

not even that I play at locals and my FGC local has had to cancel the MVS tournament due to it

[tough stirrup]

fr and you cant even see the stats of the match or anything crucial too improving ur gameplay

[hallow torrent]

I'm offering a few complete accs for them to use for this week but I can't leave them there the entire time

[gaunt pier]

I've seen several valid points throughout the chat. Idk if you're gaslighting intentionally.

[gaunt pier]

Damn. Welp, that's all folks.

[true nebula]

Not intentionally just hadn’t seen the points mentioned after Juno asked for clarification

[hallow torrent]

matchmaking is broken because there's no SBMM right now so everyone is in one giant pool. This will be fixed soon, the devs have said so in this chat

[knotty aurora]

I also noticed that too like why is that removed? The devs definitely rushed this game and did little to no testing before releasing

[hallow torrent]

Rematching is a known glitch and will be fixed

Toasting I don't really know what's going on with it?

[glossy maple]

Oh genuine feedback for the team. What was the thought process behind not letting us use all characters in training anymore?
I’m sure there’s a very good, not at all, money oriented reason why.

[solemn tartan]

is the game supposed to feel like im running through a pool of butter or is it just my game lagging

[knotty aurora]

That's not my problem. The problem is I literally can't rematch my opponent without the game just timing out

[gaunt pier]

To just be told it's a skill issue? Those aren't valid points in some cases by any means.

[hallow torrent]

no that's the second point I made I was answering them in order

it's just a bug due to a massive difference in player numbers compared to what they were expecting

[true nebula]

I was gonna say all the points you DID bring up regarding matchmaking and other adjacent stuff is something that is going to fix over time and there’s no way you think it’s intentional

[hallow torrent]

MVS hit a higher playercount today over all consoles than they did during beta

[knotty aurora]

Ah I see

[neon current]

Very generously, maybe its a glitch? Theres a few going around

[true nebula]

If the biggest problem a game has is “there are too many players” then it’s doing very well

[tough stirrup]

i think the problem is that people like this guy in chat that just glaze the game without criticizing its faults are in the balancing team so nothing is actually improved or worked upon like how is it possible that matchmaking is still and issue 2 years after the games release

[hallow torrent]

I have critisized its faults lmao

the lack of every character offline is disgusting practice

[glossy maple]

It’s not. The characters have lock icons on them and you can choose anybody for the bots. It’s intentional.

[hallow torrent]

stuff takes too long to unlock

[gaunt pier]

This is true.

[hallow torrent]

But at the same time

Many PAID fighting games don't have every character in training mode

[solemn tartan]

yeah, going the overwatch 2 route of locking previously unlocked characters is not it lmao

[knotty aurora]

Yeah the economy is typical WB bull and its annoying as hell

[hallow torrent]

Street Fighter you can't even buy the characters individually lmao

[true nebula]

I am also open to criticism and have criticised - I don’t wanna come across as not understanding the struggle I just think there are better criticisms to make than the matchmaking rn

[solemn tartan]

not being able to try out characters before you buy them is insane

[glossy maple]

This is a bad excuse. Even worse when they had them unlocked BEFORE LAUNCH.

[true nebula]

Because that’s a problem that is clearly not design

[scenic harbor]

why would I argue with som1 who is clearly not in the correct mental state, thats considered bullying

[tough stirrup]

regardless they have about a week before this game dies

[hallow torrent]

yes I think it's horseshit

I have complained here about it

[neon current]

Dear lord yes! Are we going to need to redo the entire rifts every day just to get Smith? I get gronding, but thats indlsane

[hallow torrent]

I have contacted people I know on the dev team directly about it

[knotty aurora]

Not criticizing matchmaking in a fighting game just sounds silly

[tough stirrup]

what the hell are you talking about? Is this supposed to be a insult?

😂

good one!

you got me

[scenic harbor]

yappin tm

[glossy maple]

Matchmaking is going to be bad it’s launch day. Not even worth complaining about.

[true nebula]

My point is that it’s not exactly the devs fault that the servers overloaded and caused some issues that are gonna be fixed, and that criticism is better directed towards design choices

[glossy maple]

Let it settle a bit.

[hallow torrent]

it's a pool of 150,000 players that are entirely unranked rn

lmao

how would you rank them

[tough stirrup]

its not just that people are dcing mid game,tping around the map some moves crash the game

[teal folio]

I hate that they got rid of that lil circle that shows how charged you charged attacks are

[neon current]

The ui, grinding, qol and online only are all issues. But as a casual player, I honestly kinda prefer the gameplay for the most part.

[tough stirrup]

i have seen clips of people having their game crash when jake uses his up tilt

[hallow torrent]

as a high level player i prefer the gameplay lmao

[tough stirrup]

legit makes no sense

and also how tf is ranked not out yet

[hallow torrent]

because you can't put ranked in a game with 200k players on launch day

[scenic harbor]

why are u crying so much

[hallow torrent]

no game does that

[scenic harbor]

it is launch day bro

[glossy maple]

How. Genuine question.

[coral linden]

Please add (restore?) a toggle for swapping ground forward attacks and ground neutral attacks. Many players are used to exclusively using the right analog stick for charge attacks and the attack button on it's own for multi-hit attacks. Having only the half the right stick inputs charge moves and the attack button charge moves in a standstill is definitely confusing for some players.

[tough stirrup]

why not? just make a level cap for it and release it

[knotty aurora]

I still find it baffling that Agent Smith is not unlockable unless you wait for more rifts to beat of wait till July 30th

[neon current]

Another glitch to point out is the rifts with two players won't actually acknowledge you winning unless you beat it twice.

[tough stirrup]

nobody is gonna play the rift mode

[hallow torrent]

1s is no longer "who can land their infinite starter first"
2s is no longer handshaking to not playing WW/Velma

lots more characters are viable in both 1s and 2s

[knotty aurora]

Should've just added him with Joker and just let me buy him

[tough stirrup]

facts

[neon current]

Rifts mode gives me Invasions flashbacks.

[tough stirrup]

😭

[glossy maple]

Is this because the game runs at half the speed now or what?

[slate dagger]

bro why is everyone losing it about jason lol

[glossy maple]

Like what’s the diff.

[hallow torrent]

no

becuase there's massive balance changes and the game has been changed in the design aspects

lmao

[tough stirrup]

hes pretty broken but not the worst rn

[slate dagger]

but how

[latent flame]

with the amount of bugs to be discovered/the amount of unbalanced techs people will find it probably isn't the best idea to let people get disgustingly high ranks by abusing these things before they're sorted

[knotty aurora]

What's wrong with Jason?

[hallow torrent]

A common thing was Morty locking someone out and just making it a forced 1v1 while the other person couldn't play, and then it becomes 2 infinites again

Morty is still VERY good and probably the best 2v2 character

[wide dust]

remove dexters lab from the game like rn pla

[hallow torrent]

but that's not an issue anymore

there was lots of stuff like that

[unique gate]

Can I just say I hate this response, brother the game was in beta for months, what was the point of that if not to make the game for full release good? Sure full release is only 1 days old, but it speaks volumes that they just removed or seemingly forgot tons of QOL and features

[hallow torrent]

and just to clarify I play characters that have been MAJORLY nerfed in the change

[tough stirrup]

thats a good point but when a fighting game like this releases and the only gamemode that they have is unranked the game gets boring real quick

[hallow torrent]

I'm still enjoying myself a lot more than beta

[slate dagger]

bro whats wrong with jason

[lilac jasper]

please let us choose between using fighter curency or character tickets. we could d so in the beta but now we cant.

[scenic harbor]

so we are going to forget they had to recode the whole entire game? Get a grip about "they wasted that beta time"

[latent flame]

there's also events and rifts but ur not wrong

[hallow torrent]

in a year they did a lot under the hood

[unique gate]

Yeah re coded and seemingly forgot many many aspects of the game

[scenic harbor]

the full release was how they made the game playable

not balancing

you dweeb

[tough stirrup]

the rift game mode is extremely boring LOL

[scenic harbor]

i feel like that is slightly more important

[knotty aurora]

That's cuz character tickets dont exist in the game unless you already had them in the beta

[tough stirrup]

i saw a bunch of people

[slate dagger]

????

[tough stirrup]

complaining about that

[hallow torrent]

I like rifts it works as a turn your brain off game and I get Agent Smith at the end of it lmao

[true nebula]

Rifts are cool minus the whole locking missions behind cosmetics thing

[knotty aurora]

You cant even unlock him right now

That's the biggest problem I have with it

[candid socket]

I beg of the team to bring back "swap grounded neutral and forward attacks"

[neon current]

Every enemy having rodiculously high defense doesn't helpm

[stone nova]

2v2s are laggy as hell on PS4.

[tough stirrup]

😭

LOL

[neon current]

Same on Steam Deck

[tough stirrup]

more than likley not happening bro

[candid socket]

Why wouldn't it happen?

[true nebula]

I don’t think they’re overly engaging but that’s the part I like it’s just easy grinding whilst I shut my brain off and can just do it in the background whilst I watch yt or smth

[hallow torrent]

combo practice ez

[tough stirrup]

cause they removed a bunch of old perks

[unkempt marlin]

input lag on pc is crazy

[hallow torrent]

They removed old perks by usagerate

[candid socket]

It's an accessibility thing...???

[tough stirrup]

i doubt they would remove it just too add it

[hallow torrent]

I think Ajax said that every perk they removed had a sub 2% usage rate lmao

[teal folio]

The games keep getting disconnected this is so annoying

And its so laggy 😭

[hallow torrent]

except triple jump

which was a Problem

and deserved to die

[knotty aurora]

Yeah I'll just not play until maybe tomorrow or until they announce a patch

Because holy cow

[tough stirrup]

yeah i got off

the game got boring quick

the characters i used too enjoy dont feel fun too play anymore

and i don't have some of them for some odd reason

[knotty aurora]

Superman's Up air special not having up or down throw was one of the biggest things I saw that made me very sad

[hallow torrent]

yeah because this gave him an infinite lmao

like

superman had the easiest infinites in the game

if they needed to remove that to fix it, good

[knotty aurora]

They already nerfed it in the beta

[hallow torrent]

yes it didn't help

Supes was top 3

arguably top 2

over Harley

[knotty aurora]

It was not as strong unless you were at the top of the screen

Or on a platform

[true nebula]

As a Harley player superman was definitely above Harley

[hallow torrent]

dude Superman was one of the best 1v1 characters in the game by a long shot

[hallow torrent]

the general opinion of beta is Jake Superman Harley

[true nebula]

Defo agree

[candid socket]

Stop the cap

[knotty aurora]

Jake was annoying just like Stripe

Hate them both with every fiber of my being

[true nebula]

? I’m just saying Superman was a stronger character than Harley in beta

[tropic wigeon]

Please let my reindog move after using his neutral. Im stuck on the ground for what feels like an entirety. This move has now become a run away and spam only move unless used in the air since it feels so punishing and even then it feels just wrong sometimes.

[lilac jasper]

i know but i have 23 tickets and i dont wanna waste lik 9 of them on characters i just wanna unlock with fighter currency

[candid socket]

You'd be incorrect LOL

[knotty aurora]

Wait I'm confused about this.

[hallow torrent]

no Supes was definitely better than Harley

[knotty aurora]

Yeah I played both for sure and yeah superman didnt have to try nearly as hard as Harley

[true nebula]

Supes was very strong lol was hard to keep up with his grabs

[knotty aurora]

Especially his Side Air Special

[wanton flume]

Finn is even more overpowered than he was in the beta

[wheat forum]

Sorry if this is a little annoying, but I have been trying to find out with a Rift Cauldron is, and so far there is like nothing poining me to what one is.

If anyone knows what a Rift cauldron is and how to collect one, @ me if ye can

[lilac jasper]

basically, i have 23 character tickets from my founders pack i had in the beta. i did not unlock every character during the beta as i got bored. when the full game launched today, i realized, it is forcing me to use character tickets to unlock any fighter i didnt have and doesnt give any option to choose between fighter currency or character tickets, whereas in the beta you could choose to either use gold or a character ticket to unlock a fighter

[hallow torrent]

Finn wasn't overpowered

he's little mac

you're getting little mac'd

sorry 😦

[candid socket]

Basically finish all of the ? mark point things in the bottom right of rifts. if I'm not mistaken you need a total of 80 stars

[knotty aurora]

Finn was absolutely cracked. All people did before the nerf was spam his bag and gems

[true nebula]

Finn was annoying but I wouldn’t say he was as strong as people made him out to be

[knotty aurora]

Oh I see now. Yeah that is rather annoying

[knotty aurora]

Yes he was annoying.

[wheat forum]

you need a hundred, but thanks!

[candid socket]

Detective one needs 80 if ur looking for a faster path

[iron spoke]

I don't know why we can't use the full roster and select any cosmetics when doing the training mode local play since it allowed players to try out a fighter to see if they're worth getting or having fun with freinds since it's not affecting anything at all

[vital hull]

Characters and perks should be all unlocked on local play, having them locked basically destroys local scenes and makes small tournaments unviable

[tropic wigeon]

are they going to be adding or returning old perks anytime soon?

[hallow torrent]

all removed perks had a sub 2% usage rate or were detrimental to the game (triple jump)

[tropic wigeon]

ah I see

I like the air accel one a lot

was def the fav pick just for speed on dog

[toxic imp]

This 100%, including in training mode

[hallow torrent]

iirc air and ground excel got merged?

[tropic wigeon]

did they?

if so I may use that other one I guess I didnt read it

thought it was ground only but I thought it was just a copy and paste of the old one that was ground only

[onyx kiln]

Anyone know when the twitch drops are gonna be out in the game? I claimed them today around noon but now 8 hours later nothing

[whole quiver]

bring back old 2v2 rules. Ur teammate can suicide jump off map and ruin game for u. Just had it happen man just straight ran off map after first down twice to take 3 of the downs. Needa have individual lives again bc with current way if random que somebody can just sobotage match even worst then just throwing away ur own lives bc they throw away yours too!!!!!

[iron spoke]

Another small critique is short hopping is also seemingly gone so it's harder to pull off some combos and it's pusedo nerf to some character that are effective with short hopping like Jake. They should add it back

Speaking of Jake, Cake only says one quote when attacking meanwhile she keeps her other lines

It gets annoying hearing "we're going to kick some butt and look good doing it too" every few seconds

[ebon kraken]

It feels like you stripped down so much of the game. Bring back the after match stats “K.Os” and “DMG”. And bring back the extra training room options.

[unkempt marlin]

bring back game speed

[quiet forge]

main two things i would like to see is after match stats like in the beta def miss that, and also just speed up the movement/maybe end lag on attacks just feels a lot slower compared to the first game

[sharp flax]

Every time I use Jason's teleport ability I always teleport off of the arena making me fall into the void and not be able to recover in time to get back onto the stage

[unkempt marlin]

I jump and character move 1 second later wtf

[iron spoke]

Tbh sometimes it's hard to punish attacks since they can just dodge out of it but the speed can be slightly quicker. It's fine to me but can be a bit more quick

[quiet forge]

yea def a little weird its hard for me to say what it is but whatever flow they had going in the beta was almost perfect to me

[candid socket]

Some things I've noted that I think would be beneficial changes:

• The biggest issue is if you're going to have a game this slow, the hitstun can't be this high.
• Parries in doubles feel underwhelming at best, detrimental at worst.
• Imo I think the character sizes can stay the same but a general ground speed buff would be nice
• Can we get a dedicated button for dash attack since it seems a bit inconsistent?
• Why get rid of the "Swap neutral and side ground attacks"?
• I'd like to know the reasoning behind getting rid of attack decay.
• Cromulons keeps on crashing

[quiet forge]

tbf i feel like it was easy in the beta to dodge out of attacks to i think the slightly slower flow just makes it that much harder to combo so combos arent as easily a true combo

[unkempt marlin]

noway they removed attack decay

xdx

[tropic wigeon]

Does anyone else think we've downgraded in selection screen terribly? Why did we switch to a loadout based system? The one you guys had was perfect before. Although it allowed certain characters to get countered by certain perks it just added some depth that the opponent would have to play around plus we've lowered the amount of perks in game.

yeah its gone

I have no clue why

[devout bear]

Nah wasnt me. Minious1020 on psn is my gamertag. I did that like hours ago

[tropic wigeon]

Also there is a bug with double bugs where if safes are launched at an enemy it will sandwich them and they will shoot up to 500% instantly and die in micro seconds

[onyx garden]

Why not use the 2D portraits that are on the website for the select screen. The new 3D portraits do not look good at all imo

[devout bear]

Finally! Someone tried telling me Attack Decay was still in the game when it was clearly not.

[hallow torrent]

this is intentional btw

the game has purposely been toned down in the combo department

[hallow torrent]

Attack Decay is still in the game but does not effect the same things as before

¯_(ツ)_/¯

and it doesn't tell you that it's there

but moves definitely stale which is all AD was

[slender swan]

i tested the attack decay with the jason ground up special and i got Harley to like 250 before she got rung out bc of ad

also, am i crazy or do perks just not feel worth it anymore, before with like triple jump and stuff it felt like it made a good difference

[lime river]

I'm trying to play with my friend, but the game's fps simply drops out of nowhere for both of us and there are times when we crash out of the game, I don't think it's a problem with the Internet connection, I hope they fix this soon, it's not working to have fun at all

[tropic wigeon]

It seems they tried to make perks not be as unhealthy. But then they also nerfed down combo potential and movement so the games slowed down too

tbf though if triple jump were in the game rn it would be uber broken

[still hull]

really need to fix console servers. My friend can't even load into a match with me because he keeps getting matchmaking errors. Literally unplayable.

[slender swan]

i like the idea of the new perk slots where you have to pick and choose but getting rid of some of the old perks and reworking some of them just make it not matter. also why we doing uneditable classes when loading into the maps and why cant we change characters before a rematch anymore

[slender swan]

probably but even in the beta i used it 24/7

[still hull]

I miss the old perks

[tropic wigeon]

I agree since with this system its just gonna result in meta for the character and other perks will be overshadowed

making them not feel like they matter'

which is why I was also talking about how i dont like the new select screen since there is no preplanning

cant change your perks or special unless u planned exactly for that moment or situation with your 3 loadouts

[onyx kiln]

the match results screen needs work, in rifts sometimes me and my friend are booted out before giving us our rewards, making us play the level again.

[slender swan]

and you cant counter pick anymore either with characters

[still hull]

I don't even pick perks because they're all mid. only 2 of them look like they matter.

They said they did this to reduce meta perks, so they ruined perks? Now there's no identity with perks or mixing them to have a nice combo, it's just mid.

doing an extra 1 damage, ooooh

[west nest]

Hello there I have a few complaints about the game, although I am enjoying it so far. First off the shop UI is way too complicated I recommend simplyfying some stuff. The base kinda feels very slow reverting the game to it's old speed would make for a better experience imo. There should be a for camera zooming turning off and on.

[tropic wigeon]

They just made meta more meta lol

now im only going to run the same 3 things until the end of time unless new perks are added that are better than the current one for my characters

[hallow torrent]

this is intentional lmaooo

[slender swan]

for a ranked mode thats cool but for casual its just boring

[hallow torrent]

also perks do matter

[slender swan]

ruins the idea of a casual rematch

[hallow torrent]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slender swan]

no

[hallow torrent]

this is how it works in every other fighting game

[hallow torrent]

yes? lmao

[marsh zinc]

you should be able to character swap if you rematch

[slender swan]

this game wasnt every other fighting game and that was the beauty

its still a good game but it just lost some of its identity

[hallow torrent]

going online with a bad character losing once and switching to my main to own the low elo scrub

[tropic wigeon]

yeah I agree u cant really change anything for a rematch

[hallow torrent]

this is what happened in the beta btw and was the reason new players dropped off

[tropic wigeon]

espeically if I didnt put one perk I wanted in one of the 3 slots I was given

[marsh zinc]

nah for casual play its just boring af to rematch repeatedly weteher your winning or losing

[hallow torrent]

then find a 1v1 here or on one of the many other community servers

[marsh zinc]

i shouldnt have to ?

[hallow torrent]

being able to saltswitch to a main or a hard counter is also lame and people do that all the time when you can switch lmao

[marsh zinc]

its match making r u dumb

[hallow torrent]

yeah

random matchmaking

[slender swan]

going online to try a new character and being punished by a sweat and then you cant switch to make it a fair fight. this is gonna scare of more casual players

[hallow torrent]

with random people

[marsh zinc]

least you know

[slender swan]

lets not insult man,

[hallow torrent]

ok but imagine going online as a new player and being punished by a sweat who switches to their means after one game

This is what happened in beta

like there was a channel on a high level discord dedicated to people talking about how to crash the MMR of one character so you could do it

and because of how fighting game MMRs work this would happen again

[slender swan]

ok but imagine being that new player who is comfy on superman and wants to try IG then gets beat by a Batman sweat who has only played batman and you wanna try and fight better so you wanna switch to superman but you cant

[marsh zinc]

this

[hallow torrent]

also this is a fighting game

it's competitive

calling someone sweaty for playing to win is weird

lmao

[marsh zinc]

yeah they can save tht stuff for ranked

playing to win and try hards or being sweaty arent always in the same boat

[hallow torrent]

which isn't in the game yet

[slender swan]

so why do the casuals have to suffer bc ranked isnt in yet

[marsh zinc]

i get that but i dont think its good for casual play.

[hallow torrent]

me when i can't switch character (i am suffering)

just find someone else lmao

[lime river]

apparently it lags when jack uses the stretch power, I don't know why

[slender swan]

theres an honor thing in at least doing a 3 game series

[marsh zinc]

every other fighting game has a casual mode where you can hit rematch/ character select

[hallow torrent]

this is a video game

[hallow torrent]

nah most fighting games don't have that anymore

since character based MMR came in

[marsh zinc]

mk1 ust came out and it had it

also owned by wb

[hallow torrent]

MK1 is a casual focused game

[slender swan]

have you never heard phrases like "respect the ones" in videogames?

[hallow torrent]

and also made by a totally different team

[marsh zinc]

lolll

[slender swan]

SO IS THIS GAME

[marsh zinc]

mortal kombat players are so sweaty '

[hallow torrent]

this game was bigger at EVO than MK1 lmao

[hallow torrent]

like respect the 1v1?

[marsh zinc]

yeah mk1 came out this year ?

it was like literally just for pros last year

[slender swan]

MK's training breaks down every single microstat for the sweats to learn extensively and easily

[toxic imp]

Really you should be able to switch your character between rounds regardless

[hallow torrent]

if they're going for character based MMR then no

[toxic imp]

Counterpicking shouldn't be discouraged

[hallow torrent]

and they were in beta

[slender swan]

it was a brand new platform fighter people wanted to know who was going to be good like Nakat and others

[devout hawk]

Currently characters aren’t purchasable with the Fighter Currency if you have character tickets, I think it might be a good idea to change that so people can save the character tickets for when they don't have enough fighter currency

[slender swan]

MK has been around for 20+ years

[upbeat barn]

Just gonna add my support for this piece of feedback. This toggle was a gamechanger for me once I discovered it in the beta and it's a real shame to see it missing on the full release.

[hallow torrent]

either way if you're stapling respect to a competitive game then like

uh

you aint taking it seriously enough lmao

[indigo wing]

dude change back the speed please

[hallow torrent]

play as much as required to win

[slender swan]

you can still you just have to go to your controller binds and the all the specials at the bottom of the list and then push stick that direction, so in theory if your a dpad movement player you could have all your attacks on both sticks

[toxic imp]

I'm with you on this

Maybe character-based MMR isn't a good fit for the game if you can't change characters between rounds like you would in an actual competitive setting

[north jackal]

make it so you also earn battle pass xp outside of just doing quests, it takes awhile to complete bp tiers

[hallow torrent]

greatness at any cost ong

[tropic wigeon]

wait do u not get xp for playing?

like toward bp

[north jackal]

you only seem to get character and career xp

[coral linden]

not quite the same thing, doesn't change the fact that I'm essentially doing jab with my right stick and charging forward attacks with the button

[north jackal]

i’ve been playing like all day and i’m only like tier 7

[tropic wigeon]

wb what are we doing🤦‍♂️ this was one of the biggest complaints about the bp in beta

at least there are more missions though

[north jackal]

true

[tropic wigeon]

how many were avabile today?

[north jackal]

a bit, i have two left i can do rn

[hallow torrent]

you can get to level 9 if you do all the missions

[north jackal]

not bad tbh

[tropic wigeon]

its not bad but there is no grind

we didnt release ranked AGAIN

[north jackal]

it’s still really tedious to have to do certain quests tho instead of just being able to play

[tropic wigeon]

maybe the pve but that isnt for everyone

[hallow torrent]

you can do them in rift

[north jackal]

granted there are more ways to earn battle pass xp

[tropic wigeon]

yeah rift

[north jackal]

i know

[tropic wigeon]

yeah but thats why I like brawls system

[north jackal]

i’ve already done 3 rifts

[tropic wigeon]

I at least felt like I could get some tiers for simply playing and get to 100 by completing the weeklies when I wanted

[north jackal]

there’s only 70 tiers

[candid socket]

god someone please nerf finn's hitstun

nerf hitstun all around

why is there so much hitstun

[tropic wigeon]

W cutscenes

[gaunt ether]

Hitstun is absurd

[swift bramble]

During the Tank sections in Rift, why are the canon upgrades so bad??? The gun requires 3 shots to kill any drones and the rockets require 2... Why even get them and change from a 1 shot kill??

[eternal moon]

Has anyone else encountered an issue with the game constantly freezing on them?

[candid socket]

Was BMO Chop always spammable??? Why did they give him more than one???

[tropic wigeon]

the one where you buy bmo and charge forward with it or sum?

[candid socket]

Yeye

I could've sworn it used to be a one time thing

[tropic wigeon]

I played the night b4 with remote play and it was a one time use

my friend was spamming finn and was talking about it

[candid socket]

Why did they make BMO Chop not one time use????

[tropic wigeon]

then we played today and he found out it doesnt disappear anymore

[candid socket]

In fact why did they make it spammable???

[tropic wigeon]

who knows

[candid socket]

I Love this game but Istg this feels like one step forwards 2 steps back in terms of balancing

[tropic wigeon]

it had insane knockback on low percents when we playing in beta build the night b4

does it still have insane knockback?

[candid socket]

Yes

Maybe not as insane as it was but it's still a fast kill move

[tropic wigeon]

you would think they would nerf it if its not a one time use anymore

[candid socket]

in fact I think it has a better radius

[swift bramble]

You REALLY should be able to quit Rift games... Because if I choose the wrong character or didn't meet requirements I have to do the whole thing THEN do it all over again. I am REALLY losing my mind in these tank sections of Rifts...

[vocal coyote]

or they should let you retry immediately after the match instead of having to go all the way back to the lobby

[dull sail]

Could Parry be added to the Glossary? Maybe I’m blind and missed it, but I wanted to read more about how to do it and couldn’t find an in-game explanation.

[tall echo]

revert the change to velma's neutral attack (megaphone), it doesn't even feel like a projectile anymore

[cloud quiver]

Wooow I just picked Velma back up...They did Velma dirty big time.

Meanwhile I feel like they gave the mascot dog a big boost in mobility for certain moves

[lean cave]

Get rid of the zoom in it was perfect before

[fickle plank]

The camera is so zoomed in and buggy, sometimes people are already on my face by the time the camera zooms out all the way. I don't understand such decisions, same goes for removing the option to swap forward attack and neutral attack or making the enemy bright red color. The game feels like a beta more than the beta itself.

[lean cave]

^

[swift bramble]

for real

[swift bramble]

Like for a tank mission I have to keep the crystal at 90 hp or above and when it gets below that I have to sit there and wait....

[keen apex]

i think it would be nice to see how we place per character again (character mmr stats and overall placements)

it’ll also be nice to see a summary on how we did at the end of the match again (ringouts and damage)

[shy scarab]

They destroyed bugs completely. You can't switch the direction the enemy will go when using his neutral air, you can't change the height of his helicopter ears when he is moving, bug's safe goes in random directions when he hits it with his forward air and now completely leaves the stage after it goes through a tunnel, etc. I can barely play him properly anymore

[vocal coyote]

I hate the tank missions. I just lose to them anyways tbh.

[swift bramble]

I want the stars

[hallow torrent]

neutral dodge

[swift bramble]

Like imagine you're playing Contra and your starting gun is a 1 shot to everything and all of the upgrades you can pick up make you do LESS damage...

[hallow torrent]

and yet he's still top 10 lmao, all of the old top meta threats got nerfed except Batman and Morty for some reason

[vocal coyote]

I honestly care more about getting to the boss if anything, since beating the bosses is how you unlock Agent Smith

It’s impossible to unlock Agent Smith today, but hopefully within 3 days it will be

[swift bramble]

ya I give up on this tank 90 hp one

i literally cant do it solo

its impossible

[hallow torrent]

Agent Smith is currently not in the game btw

You need at least 3 more rifts to launch before you can unlock him

[shy scarab]

Bugs' attack lag is so long too it feels like forever getting out of his moves

[hallow torrent]

he'll probably drop in 2 weeks

[vocal coyote]

It might be reasonable for the first one but for all the others, I swear to god it’s nearly impossible to not even have the crystal get destroyed

[vocal coyote]

What about the other difficulties?

[hallow torrent]

you can only get 4 right now

they don't reset per day

and the Detectives rift doens't have a boss

Jason probably will

[vocal coyote]

Isn’t the giant stripe a boss?

Cuz it did count for me towards unlocking Agent Smith

[ocean fractal]

ive been getting game disconected every game now

[keen apex]

i just want to be able to switch the teams around in private matches

[cloud quiver]

Up aerial is still the meta. Some things never change.

[hallow torrent]

Huh odd

Not labelled as such

[paper ice]

Is the issue of having a lot of input delay known?

[jade vine]

buff gizmo

[vocal coyote]

Enable best speed in the graphics settings. The graphics become a blurry mess but it makes the game run at 60 FPS so you gotta make due with that.

[paper ice]

Ill give it a try

[snow tusk]

Cross-play is SUPER wierdf, i have to have my friend turn on hiscomputer to let steam run otherwise he is getting kicked from the game on ps4 whenever we join a match

[empty rapids]

Nerf Marvin

🥸

[swift bramble]

Is it just me or am I playing against Bots? I'm literally going against people that stand still randomly like the AI does...

[vocal coyote]

Yeahh … I noticed that too. It feels off.

[prime ruin]

iron giant is faster than jason somehow fix jason NOW

[swift bramble]

I just took a stock and stalled for 4 minutes

[vocal coyote]

Bruh

Might’ve been AFK

[paper ice]

Tried it, still has input delay.

[vocal coyote]

There might be background apps slowing down your pc

Or low network bandwidth

[fresh fog]

I can't bind controls to my mouse wheel anymore

[swift bramble]

Can someone make sense of this to me????

wait am i allowed to link clips here?

https://clips.twitch.tv/PricklyAdorableArmadilloOneHand-xi2dMJuQvHZt8An_

oh well

[vocal coyote]

Why would u wanna do that anyways? That’s like cutting a lawn with scissors

[tall echo]

why are you matching people with bots and calling the matches "pvp"

[fresh fog]

I used to always mouse wheel down for spiking

[vocal coyote]

Mare, get yourself a controller 😭

[fresh fog]

Nah, keyboard solos

[swift bramble]

we just talked about that

[paper ice]

I only have discord and a web browsers open and my PC is pretty decent aswell. Ryzen 9 7900x3d and an RX 7900XT. Is there a way to change ping region?

[swift bramble]

I literally have had people that just randomly stand still for no reason

[tall echo]

this is the worst relaunch ever bruh

[fresh fog]

Can't bind controls with mouse wheel

[little heron]

Please Get rid of or rework the microtransaction garbage. I’d rather pay 60 up front then have to do rifts. They’re so boring and grindy, just to get stuff that was easy to get in the beta. It’s actually so horrible

I don’t think I’ve been more disappointed by a game in my life

[vocal coyote]

It’s probably a network issue. Usually cable companies don’t like when you’re streaming and gaming in the same house so they make the experience miserable for everyone.

[swift bramble]

Also can someone explain to me how to do the "play as Banana Guard" Joker Quest that refreshes in 11 hours but you can't unlock Banana guard till tomorrow?? How does that make sense?

[echo minnow]

please get rid of these tank mission things. they are a snooze fest.

[swift bramble]

naw... NASB was worse...

[swift bramble]

ya some of them are impossible solo

[little heron]

That Doesn’t make this one good

[swift bramble]

Never said it was

[raven compass]

game too slow it felt perfect before

[vague pasture]

Unlock characters in training and local

[swift bramble]

I agree, idk why they removed Airdodge after arials...

[fresh fog]

Real

[raven compass]

complain a lot

make the change happen

[fresh fog]

Game is slow

[vocal coyote]

Ikr? They’re annoying as hell

[ocean fractal]

anyone kno why im not even getting account xp

[ocean fractal]

its suppossed to be

[swift bramble]

did you try relogging?

[ocean fractal]

yep

[fresh fog]

Never was, why now?

[paper ice]

I have 1 gb up and down and normally play on 18 to 30 ping on other games. Am thinking maybe my match making region is wrong. Is there a way to check that?

[little heron]

Do the devs even read these?

[fresh fog]

Relax, be patient

[swift bramble]

most likely not, prob just an echo chamber at this point

[ocean fractal]

its in the new update which is launch its on unreal 5 now they had to tranfer every thing over and reworked the movement

[swift bramble]

can anyone explain this to me?

[vocal coyote]

I’m not sure tbh

[vocal coyote]

Who knows?

[fresh fog]

U do know that they could have just copied the movement code

It does not have to be a rework

[slim bough]

this game is awful now jeezus. it feels like my character has a brick tied to their feet. and the input delay is absolutely awful. its like a full 2 sec delay. what did yall spend all this time doing im so confused. i was so excited for this game to

[ocean fractal]

yea well its a whole new game

[swift bramble]

thats how people defended NASB2 when it was literally UMVC3 to MVC3

[ocean fractal]

its day one servers never work

[slim bough]

like i cant even input moves i wanna do with reaction anymore. its so delayed an straight ruins the game. also pls read ur steam discussion feed. its so much worse lollll listen to ur fanbase pls

[little heron]

It’s probably complicated to transfer movement to the new engine. Not defending it but it makes sense that it ended up this way

[ocean fractal]

servers are prob to overloaded atm its the first day

[fresh fog]

Bro does NOT know anything about how video games work 😭🙏

[timid mural]

bring back ringouts/damage at the end of matches and character levels at the beginning 🙏

[ocean fractal]

i think they removed character levels showing to prevent lobby dodging

[tired cliff]

Make the games combat faster please

Everyone feels way too floaty, this has been an issue since the beta

[little heron]

It feels less complete than the beta itself was somehow

[tired cliff]

I assume moving to an engine had something to do with that

[little heron]

Probably

[tired cliff]

Didn’t have enough time to fix the betas issues

[gleaming field]

The online was great this morning. Felt like local play. But it's unplayable now. Either half the frames are missing to try to keep up, or we get desync errors and they cancel the match. What happened? Are the servers overwhelmed?

[ocean fractal]

and disconects mid fight

and game freezes

[royal lion]

i thought i was the only one having that problem. in some cases, my game just crashes all together

[vestal trench]

Adding my voice to the chorus of “please let us swap side and neutral grounded attack inputs”

[gleaming field]

I haven't had it crash. Just desync and sent to lobby.

[vestal trench]

It’s particularly weird that the right stick would give jab strings instead of the smash attacks

[little heron]

Does it just run really bad or anyone else?

Lower gameplay loop aside

[swift bramble]

nope fine for me like proformance wise of ultra

[ocean fractal]

yea ive noticed to

[gleaming field]

Yes, its running choppy online for me.

[bleak dragon]

It’s fine for me. What are you using? PC or Console?

[gleaming field]

I'd blame my location/ connection, but it was so good this morning...

I'm on PS4 pro

[little heron]

Gaming laptop. Will admit it could be an issue on my end, thought the beta ran better

[ivory trail]

Make the game a little bit faster and improve the camera angles

[bleak dragon]

Try seeing if there’s any Graphic Drivers or Specs you need to update. It could also be a connection issue. Asked cause it seemed the console players are rn bearing the brunt of the pain.

[bleak dragon]

Agreed.

[swift bramble]

is Velma really that much worse?

[slender swan]

sidescroller map was kinda cool idea but god do i hate playing it

[night badger]

Does anyone know how to get the different versions of the foretold champion banner because I only have level one

[rustic stone]

my game is stuck on authentication error dawg

just reinstalled the game too

[swift bramble]

WOW Velma is bad

her Forward Arial Attack has NO range, Neutral Attack is GUTTED

[ocean fractal]

you cant it was the reward for how many coins you had left over when the beta ended

[night badger]

Dang

Well thank you for letting me bc I was loseing my mind

[night badger]

👍🏾

[bleak dragon]

Yep… she’s got hit the hardest damn.

[tranquil bolt]

Please add a tab in the glossary that explains the different mutators and how to combat them. It's very frustrating dealing with damage reflection and not knowing what to do.

[scenic crown]

Anyone feel like some of the stages are tiny?

[stiff bison]

The Jake Up Special lags the game so hard, my opponents are using it to their advantage to get kills. And he turns gray sometimes.

[scenic crown]

Cromulus especially, it's way tinier than I remember from the old version.

[faint kelp]

genuine question: why are fighter credits listed as like "1.00k"? its literally more characters than just putting "1000" LOL

[ivory ivy]

that’s actually a good question

[faint kelp]

its not even as if that section of the screen needs to save on space

[royal lion]

literally 3 disconnects in a row 😐

[faint kelp]

just such a weird choice to me

[safe vine]

Characters should unlocked by default for local and training modes like with the open beta.

[swift bramble]

lmao people are mad weird

tea bagging at 12:30am

actually touch grass lmao

[safe vine]

Like imagine EVO has this game next year and we get to grand finals and one of the players says they have’nt labbed with their character cuz they have’nt unlocked them yet

Which takes a good while to actually do so

[swift bramble]

becoming a pro requires a credit card

[safe vine]

bruh

[swift bramble]

Did we get ranked during Beta?

[thick crystal]

yea

[simple falcon]

Camera is too zoomed in, the game feels too slow making attacks feel like you are fighting underwater and you cant assign neutral attack to the A or X button

[swift bramble]

I'm at almost 50k Prestige points (mostly from Beta purchases) and I feel like its going to take a LONG time and potentially a lot of money to unlock The Batman Who Laughs...

[frozen egret]

It's crazy how much QoL settings they took away from the beta.

[slim bough]

this game is so bad now. im genuinely so mad. i was so excited to. cant believe yall developed, scripted, playtested, had a whole beta, and decided to release this choppy laggy input delayed game. insane to me

[vivid quiver]

you know what's more depressing, they said it has rollback netcode but all I'm doing is rubberbanding and it's not even cuz of my net. the hitboxes are not fixed either, which we were screaming for in beta. the entire new currencies are so confusing. the new perks are just barely there, they have no impact. the camera is either too zoomed in or too zoomed out. the charcters are too big for the small maps, the kill range can go from 30 to 150, there's no 200+ kills anymore. the dodges are unfun, the mobility is clunky. everything feels like it's gone back to being worse than alpha. oh lemme not forget they removed the anti-spam mechanic, so enjoy having mfs spam up special and not get punished for it

[slim bough]

i pray to god the devs actually read this or their steam discussion board which is even worse lolllll. such a let down

[vivid quiver]

they didn't in beta, prolly won't now 🤷 I remember like today when I hit top 50 as a taz player and they said they were fixing the netcode, they didn't do that, they "fixed" the hitboxes back in s2 making them worse, it's the same rn. :) can't even call it an early build since they themselves said it's not beta anymore

[halcyon willow]

Why did they make is slower??? I thought this games main marketing point besides the ip's was its fluidity and speed. It was actively attracting melee players 💀

Ruined that now though

[frozen egret]

This launch to me doesn't feel like an evolution of multiversus but more like an "OW2" edition of multiversus. They went one step forward, two steps backwards. Gameplay is fun, but the low gravity and super high hitlag makes nothing feel smooth anymore. It feels like they wrote objectives of what they wanted to fix from beta and only did general changes without thinking of the side effect it has on characters. Like if hitlag wasn't crazy and they didn't nerf grounded/aerial movement so bad it would be fine. Also perks being streamlined was probably good on paper but they barely even feels noticeable now.

I'd hope they at least do some QoL changes fast (like bringing all unlocked in training mode, beta control settings, easier menus, not crashing lol) I'm very curious how this game is gonna go going forward they can't ride off the hype of coming back anymore and it's clear the majority of people see the flaws already. Fun times if it's not taken seriously but no chance to be fun competitively in it's current state imo

[modern kiln]

All of the complaints I have go to 2v2s, 1v1s are fine, but anything I've seen attacking the game are exclusively 2v2 in my opinion

[vivid quiver]

Keep it as in your opinion gang, I play exclusively 1v1s.

[mild monolith]

The game feels awful to play without being able to swap neutral and side attacks. It's already frustrating enough that I have a hard time navigating the menus since the Steam version will only show Xbox inputs and I'm on a PS controller

[slim bough]

THE SCREEN JUS BUGGED AND I DIDNT EVEN MOVE MY CHARACTER AND HE WALKED OFF THE MAP. yea im done. uninstalling lmk when they fix the game

[modest radish]

I'm worried that the very long load time to start the game will continue past launch. The game crashed a few times for me, and each time I had to wait about 5 minutes for the game to read what my account had and everything before starting. If starting/ending battles and rifts was super fast I wouldn't mind as much, but it isn't.

[prime heart]

why does this game feel like its in Alpha now

after a whole year wait since beta

[keen jasper]

i don’t have any issues with netcode

[unkempt aurora]

i love the game, feels great but the performance is god awful on pc

i dont know why, it's probably my cpu but something feels off

[keen jasper]

but i do have issues with the map pool lmao, dexter’s laboratory is such a bad map and very unfun

[keen jasper]

yeah it’s fine for my pc

[tender chasm]

Heard attack decay is gone so uhhh bring that back ASAP

Also trying out a character before purchase would be neat

[unkempt aurora]

a map like game of thrones with jake destroys the fps for some reason

[lunar imp]

game feels way to slow :o

[prime heart]

also why does it feel way grindier to unlock characters now. do you even get currency just for playing anymore

[unkempt aurora]

yeah its way more grindy i think

you get most tokens from bp

[prime heart]

the battle pass feels just as bad as it did before

[keen jasper]

i just played rift and few 1v1s and had enough to unlock marvin

[unkempt aurora]

i have all the characters from the beta

but i've been playing like all day and i still haven't got enough for the joker

[prime heart]

yea but it seems like the currency is way more timegated now

[lunar imp]

i mean i played with a friend yesterday for 1:30H and he had enought for a character

[prime heart]

thats what im saying

in the beta you could just farm the currency from playing

[unkempt aurora]

old characters are cheap, like 2k

but new ones are like 6k

[prime heart]

the rifts dont even give a good amount

10 shards or whatever from some missions is so bad

some of the new characters seem cool, but i feel like almost everything else was way better in the beta

gameplay and progression wise

[modern kiln]

Eh, joker IS expensive, also you need to do missions for that

[hazy carbon]

anyone getting disconnected every f time too?

[prime heart]

my issue isnt that hes expensive, I don't like how the currency feels timegated now, when before you could just farm it by playing

[modern kiln]

Yeah I agree

[prime heart]

once you do your missions and rifts can you even get more outside of toasts

id be fine with the new characters being more expensive as long you could still farm for them

[final jacinth]

fighter tokens are impossible to get.

[prime heart]

I'm kinda hesitant to buy characters because of it

do they let you even try them before you buy them

[elder spade]

Please try to incorporate some type of stats or feedback or something (kills, damage, etc) after the end of each match, that would be amazing.

[turbid cloak]

Please let us earn battle pass xp just by playing again like the beta

Such a downgrade of a battle pass system

[upper glen]

Hello Multiversus Devs, can you please make Morty’s grenades split like they used to. Also give us pushback again on his down special if they are close. An a little extra range on the grenades, sometimes it’s right on them but it doesn’t connect the damage

[final jacinth]

daily login doesn't even you that much fighter token 250 is highest.

[prime heart]

and its not like the battle pass system was good to begin with

[turbid cloak]

It just got worse somehow

[final jacinth]

they remove all the unique perks back in the beta.

[open pelican]

Why am I locked in to spending character unlock tickets before any ingame currency? Seems a little deceitful that I cant choose or get a sense of character cost because I actually spent money on the game.

[prime heart]

thats actually crooked if thats true

[turbid cloak]

Why do I feel like this chat is more like a garbage deposit

[prime heart]

wdym

[turbid cloak]

Like a dev would never look in here

[final jacinth]

each match feels pointless

[prime heart]

hopefully they do

because theres no way this games gonna survive based on Day 1

[turbid cloak]

Why they need to add battle pass xp for just playing

[prime heart]

or character tokens

[turbid cloak]

Like after 4 hours of playing I’m still level 7 in the pass

[brave current]

I really hope that either all the perks get brought back or they just rework the current perk building system to how it originally was, it's a huge bummer that it's so much more limited here than it was in beta and there doesn't feel like much incentive to use a custom perk build

[prime heart]

I played like 5 hours today and am only level 8

I cant really go further because its timegated

[turbid cloak]

How did u even get to 8 I ran out of challenges

[prime heart]

i think the rift challenges give some

[turbid cloak]

Did those too

[small raptor]

i was wondering if i couldn't find it or not, but is there no lab anymore?

[turbid cloak]

Literally stuck at 7 until tomorrow

[prime heart]

im honestly not sure then but not having a consistent source feels bad

also there might be some for account level

[final jacinth]

the joker cost 6k fighter token and the highest you can make is 700 FT.

[prime heart]

im at like 5.2k and I can't get any more right now

unless I hit character mastery on like 8 different characters

which in itself sounds grindy

and i dont even have 8

[turbid cloak]

Without change I give this game a week

[prime heart]

real

[prime ruin]

🫡

[prime heart]

i want it to survive too just to see what characters they add, but I don't know with how its going

[prime ruin]

yeah without some changes and hopefully new characters announcements i don't see this game getting its hype back

[turbid cloak]

Won’t matter if progression sucks

[prime heart]

true

this progression system is actually so bad

especially compared to beta

[turbid cloak]

Like minimum 100 xp for battle pass per game

[prime heart]

it should be like 50 character tokens too

like how it was in beta

[turbid cloak]

Would go a long way for me

[prime ruin]

if this game is planning on adding more characters and with the current roster they need to make it easier get the characters

cause its holding itself back by not giving everyone more access to the roster

[turbid cloak]

I actually need this game to succeed I hate brawlhalla my friend loves it but i can’t stand it

I don’t want to go back

[final jacinth]

all the character are pretty much bland since all the perks are same .

[prime ruin]

real

[prime heart]

actually

id forgive them if they brought back modding

like how it was in the beginning where you could jsut drag and drop mods in

[untold escarp]

game is way too slow and it sucks how its impossible to follow up after knocking an opponent away

also bring back being able to use any character in training mode

[prime heart]

cuz atleast the mods would give it some longevity imo

[prime ruin]

i feel like some characters can just air juggle too much

[turbid cloak]

It’s so over

[prime ruin]

its kinda annoying that i cant get back to the ground to atleast get a hit in

[prime heart]

you should be able to use any character in training just so you can test before you buy

[turbid cloak]

Welp back to payday 3 I hear an update is tomorrow

[prime heart]

its actually stupid that its not a thing

[untold escarp]

key word should

they disabled that for some reason in the rerelease

yet another ruined feature

[prime heart]

damn

is there any upgrades in the re release

because from what I've been seeing everything got downgraded

[untold escarp]

seems about that way

cant think of any improvements off the top of my head

the game is so slow playing is like trudging through a pile of mud just to get a single hit on your opponent

theres so much reaction time follow ups are impossible

[open pelican]

Did any of the character balance changes improve the game? Im playing Taz and he still feels like he gets boxed out by anyone with an extended attack?

[prime ruin]

i hate how parry works

like if your playing a tank your just getting parried after using a charge attack

[swift bramble]

Is anyone else getting a lot of Desyncs?

[untold escarp]

the game is so slow its super easy to parry in general

it should be high risk high reward

[prime ruin]

ive been playing jason and his walking axe attack is like of the if not the easiest thing to parry

im just getting punish for trying a move

[modern kiln]

Y'know I gotta say the speed of the game, it's adaptable to a point where I didn't really notice or focus on it. The bigger issue to me is the height of jumps, it's incredibly difficult to get over the edge when hanging on the wall because you can't jump around, and on some of the Rift challenges the platforms take your jump and double jump to get up and it only works BARELY.

[fossil belfry]

I know this is a very silly thing to mention but

Why is Shaggy considered Detective...
...but Velma doesn't have the tag? Why?

[modern kiln]

Honestly that's a perfect thing to mention, I'd put that in bugs if I were you

[tender chasm]

This whole post which has probably been posted here aa few times https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersusTheGame/s/FUpJoWZEaG

[turbid cloak]

More of mistake then a bug

[prime heart]

real

https://tenor.com/view/ew-brotha-eww-meme-eww-eww-gif-gif-1452572770363109714

[prime ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-shaggy-shower-scene-scooby-doo-where-are-you-gif-21971534

[prime heart]

thats this whole launch so far

[turbid cloak]

PLEASE FIX THE BATTLE PASS PROGRESSION

Tbh I don’t even care like that about my lost skins

Just fix the battle pass

[primal hedge]

Just got banned for an hour from matchmaking because of constant crashing.

[prime ruin]

yeah its kinda stingy

im not trying to burn this game out that fast just for the battlepass progression

i really want the jason x skin but not at the rate of the xp

[turbid cloak]

0 levels in 4 hours is not ok

[prime ruin]

i get it

the game is new

but cmon

[turbid cloak]

New is not an excuse for when it was removed from the beta

It was already in the game

[prime ruin]

its gonna turn away more players than it will bring them in

[turbid cloak]

It took them more effort to remove it then to keep it

[prime heart]

bruh its not even week 1 and this game is been fell off

[prime ruin]

i really want to see it shine but at this rate its gonna take too long

[turbid cloak]

Even the UI from the beta was better

And I miss those xp tokens

[prime ruin]

i hope they atleast add mortal kombat characters soon

[turbid cloak]

And wtf happened to toast

[modern kiln]

It's still there what about it

[turbid cloak]

How do I get more

[modern kiln]

Oh yeah Idk XD, check the store maybe

[turbid cloak]

Seems like it’s just gone

The beta let me get more

But the dev hate everything good apparently

[prime ruin]

the lack of characters is actually evil

[prime heart]

spitting facts

[prime ruin]

like having 4 new characters is a good thing but agent smith isn't even out yet

and there isn't any new announcements for more yet

we should atleast get a roadmap or something

[swift bramble]

this is the effects of late stage capitalism

everything is monetized, even saying "gg" to your teammates and opponents.

have to squeeze every last buck out of their consumer base

[toxic prism]

RIFTS — lots of stuff needs to be fixed with matchmaking for this mode. I should be able to just get someone from online versus having to add someone as a friend and invite them into my lobby. It’s too many steps and slows things down completely.

[prime ruin]

even the pricing on the bundles is a little much for how little we have already

[swift bramble]

agreed

[swift bramble]

Bro... $20 for a SUPERMAN SKIN???

[prime ruin]

seriously

[swift bramble]

gotta be out yo gottdam mind with that... Everyone is really tryna be Fortnite because they did it so now its the industry standard...

[prime ruin]

i really want the batman animated series skin but i am not paying 20 alone for him

[swift bramble]

THATS 20???????

bro thats literally a recolor...

how is that legendary tier and now rare/epic??

[prime ruin]

especially since the design doesn't change much compared to his other skins

[swift bramble]

dont get me wrong i love BTAS and the skin

but that isnt worth $20...

[prime ruin]

they need to tone it down

[swift bramble]

Like all this crap isnt the devs directly tho... Its higher up management giving them these guidelines they need to follow

[swift bramble]

because again^

and if they speak out against it, they just fire them and find someone that will do what they say

"THIS GAME NEEDS TO BE GENERATING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A DAY LIKE FORTNITE OR OUR SHAREHOLDERS WILL NOT BE HAPPY!"

[drowsy bough]

Hey, just a personal take, locking certain paths in rifts behind owning a specific skin seems...predatory

[swift bramble]

youd be correct!

[turbid pebble]

I think making every character available for offline training mode and offline local matches like the Beta again would be a good start.

The way it is now you only get 2 characters from the base roster on a new account/console so it will take ages to get something setup for grass roots community tournaments/charity streams etc.

It's more expensive to unlock everyone in MVS from the start than it is to buy Smash Ultimate or SF6 and then purchase the DLC's. Or even just buying the Champion Edition of SF5 which has everyone.

[prime ruin]

real

[swift bramble]

No this is intended. To be a pro player you must shell out your entire bank account.

[turbid pebble]

Local community run events help showcase the game's potential outside of massive sponsored tournaments which aren't as frequent.

[wispy oracle]

yeah like at least give us like 20-50 character currency per game

[swift bramble]

They did it in beta...

[prime heart]

thats how it was in the beta

im gonna be real the official release feels more like its in alpha phase

[swift bramble]

yeah but then the higher ups thought it would be better to nickle and dime us

[drowsy bough]

Relaunch is definitely steps in the right direction but there's a few steps back. Locking Jason exclusively behind the Premium Battle Pass (even if temporary) seems a bit excessive. Overwatch 2 had a similar system where you'd get the new character instantly if you bought the premium BP or could earn them halfway through, which I think would be a good solution here; or being able to unlock him normally, but with a bit more to it, for example 6000 fighter points instead of 3000. The gleamium price should stay the same, though. Or just purchase the battle pass if you try to buy him with gleamium, since they're the same price
Character grinding is definitely gonna be a point of contention, and getting more ways to earn fighter points (like through rifts more, since you want us to play them so badly; they're fun but still) would be great to do

[swift bramble]

That can be chalked up to a new engine but still a bad excuse

[wispy oracle]

as someone who actually played the closed aplha I agree

[prime heart]

the game needs to be succesful first for that to work

at the rate its going its gonna be dead before they get the chance

[drowsy bough]

Also the Agent Smith early unlock requiring you to do the same rifts on every difficulty is excessive

[prime ruin]

alt skins should be atleast 5 dollars but the highest i push would be 10 cuz cmon if bundles were around 10 i'd have a reason to buy since it comes with a couple of things

[swift bramble]

Bro what did you expect, you gotta pay to give toast to people... YOU HAVE TO PAY TO SAY GG TO PEOPLE

[swift bramble]

you cant even unlock him yet because we dont have enough boss nodes

[prime ruin]

he'll come out before you'd get even close to getting early access

[swift bramble]

not even like 1/2 of the way there

you legit need to wait for Jason event just for a chance at trying to get him

[wispy oracle]

not to mention it takes ages to level up your gems without paying real world mkney

[swift bramble]

this is smelling like Street Fighter X Tekken...

[drowsy bough]

It already is successful; it's a F2P game that already made a goofy amount of money during beta and has already broken past it's all-time peak during then. People spend money on this game, I would if I had cash to flash. It's fun, it's good, but there's problems. It's made money so far, execs are definitely looking at this nicer than they look at KTJL

which is also weird considering KTJL was like the sixth bestselling game when it released in february and is still considered a financial failure

[swift bramble]

a lot of numbers and successful are 2 different things

[prime heart]

i've heard nothing but complaints about it since it launched

[swift bramble]

to be a success you need to actually be GOOD

This game feels akin to Flash Party rn

[drowsy bough]

Overwatch is considered a success and nobody who plays that game calls it good

[prime heart]

big numbers at launch dont mean its gonna last

[swift bramble]

OW1 season 1-Brig release was good

[drowsy bough]

But you have heard discussion, no?

[prime heart]

about how its bad yea

[prime ruin]

not good discussions

[drowsy bough]

People talking about the game, criticising it or not is still buzz about it. That still gets it trending on Twitter or Youtube

[wispy oracle]

game executives need to understand that if you make a live service game, make it good and dont be scummy and youll rake in the cash

[swift bramble]

This game has a LOT of growing room for how much theyre charging for stuff is ALL im saying...

[drowsy bough]

Yeah, I'll die on the hill that Fortnite does it the best

[swift bramble]

thats the problem tho

[prime heart]

fortnite is starting to get stingy too

[swift bramble]

everyone and their mother wants to replicate fortnite

because of how much money they made

they think "WE CAN DO THAT TOO!!"

[drowsy bough]

If they think they can charge that much for the skins, they will. And they are getting money for them

[wispy oracle]

Sea of thieves do it really well too

[prime heart]

yea and they always fail to replicate what fortnite does right

cough cough battlepass

[drowsy bough]

in some aspects but they tune down stuff if it's a bit severe, like the car prices

[prime ruin]

i'm not gonna compare this game to KTJL cause i actually like this game enough to want to see it shine and have a bright future but i don't want to wait a No Mans Sky Amount of time for that

[swift bramble]

as a Superman main, youll never catch me paying $20 for Black Lantern

and fidelity wise thats still the best LOOKING skin he has

[prime ruin]

there actually killing me for that BAS Batman rn

[prime heart]

im more referring to how they keep nerfing XP each season and expect you to play every mode

[drowsy bough]

Giving enough gleamium to get the next BP is a good choice, so is giving 150 for reaching max mastery per character

[swift bramble]

that pisses me off

$20 for a recolor...

[elder spade]

Then why did they remove it? 😂

[wispy oracle]

sounds alot like mortal kombat 1 haha

[prime ruin]

like they did the skin respect but just 20 dollars for the skin

[swift bramble]

because 3 steps forward, 2 steps backward 🙂

[drowsy bough]

yeah valid. I'm a Harley player myself, I'd splash cash on Mad Love or TFX if I had it

[elder spade]

Lmao fr

[prime heart]

i think the issue is that fortnite had one of the better battlepass progression systems, but no game would ever copy that part of it

[prime ruin]

idc if its cheaper for the bundle version thats still much

[prime heart]

most games have crappy battlepasses in terms of being reasonable to complete

and by that I mean not having to spend a million+ hours just to finish

[swift bramble]

I cant wait till it globally becomes illegal to do the live service trope of "SPEND $10 TO SPEND $7!"... Its extremely predatory

[prime ruin]

were gonna need another lootbox situation for that

[swift bramble]

its borderline at that point

[wispy oracle]

sucks so much theres no XP, money and battle pass XP boosts like in the beta. i had tonnes of them

[prime heart]

if a battlepass takes more than 20 (total) hours to complete than I think its stingy

you realistically shouldnt have to spend that much time on a battlepass considering you have to pay for the thing

[drowsy bough]

Devs, since apparently you read this chat, open letter; let us earn XP by playing the game instead of just completing quests please 🙏

[prime heart]

exactly

[prime ruin]

i hope the dev's atleast consider our concerns this time because we obviously want this to game to do good but not at the rate its going

[swift bramble]

I really dispise battlepasses that have most of the EXP gained through rotating Daily/Weekly quests... That is some mobile game "out of lives/time today" type BS

[prime ruin]

we want more from it but its not getting there

[prime heart]

idk at the rate its going its gonna die off again

[prime ruin]

realistcally no ones grinding that hard for this game daily

[swift bramble]

which is sad because this seriously could be something good

[prime ruin]

weekly sure

[wispy oracle]

I recently played the beta for warhammer 40k: speed freeks. its basically twisted metal but in the 40k universe and they have a free battle pass going and i completed it in like 8 hours. games fun af. ill deffs be playing it when the full release comes out

[drowsy bough]

They did listen to a lot from beta tbf

[swift bramble]

exactly

[prime ruin]

not enough if we only have 4 characters since then

[prime heart]

thats what most battlepasses should be like

[prime ruin]

but i have hope

maybe

[prime heart]

8 hours is like maybe 1 long play session

[swift bramble]

I mean lets be real here... I highly doubt they're scrolling through this chat at ANY point...

[swift bramble]

ill play the game on stream... Thats about it...

[prime ruin]

i would @ them rn if i didn't get me banned

[swift bramble]

My gaming time IS my streaming time and vise versa

[wispy oracle]

yeah haha. basically if you do really well in the match you get so much XP in speed freeks. i went up 3 tiers just in one game haha

[prime ruin]

then my pleas would be hidden within this chat lost to time

[swift bramble]

Like I just completed the Tekken 8 Battle pass in like... No time at all...

[unkempt aurora]

something else that bothers me is that i can't turn off the blue or red colors of my teammates and foes

you could do that in the beta

[swift bramble]

that is in the settings, isnt it? I set my ally color to green and enemy to pink...

[prime ruin]

even street fighter is getting stingy with these problems too

[turbid pebble]

I'm just hoping they glance at the chat when I ask about making all characters available offline for local tourneys. Otherwise people need to spend like, 12 bucks per character or spend weeks grinding before even considering making an offline tournament. And that's just for ONE system.

[swift bramble]

OH YOU MEAN TEENAGED MUTANT $60 AVATAR SKINS?

[prime ruin]

yeah

[ocean fractal]

still no word on connection issues

[swift bramble]

FOR THE PRICE OF THE WHOLE GAME, GET THESE AVATAR COSTUMES!!

[prime ruin]

and like 30 dollars for the bundle even though i just want to buy akuma standalone

[turbid pebble]

A lot of the SF6 stuff you can ignore at least. The characters are more important than the Avatar stuff