game-feedback

[daring garden]

that and balancing

its definitely one of them, the fact that it throws them towards you instead of away is CRISP combo starter

[desert rapids]

I think balancing is fine but there are clearly some characters that need changes (garnet/batman/bugs)

I have this experiment in my ear telling me iron giant is the worst in the game when he’s so clearly not

Taz and Garnet are below F tier rn

[daring garden]

gotta love how garnet gets a single side special per 10-12 business days while seemingly every other character has infinite projectiles

obviously not actually, bad choice of words

but still, her top special is so mid that its worth just getting rid of for the clap

[desert rapids]

she just needs hit box/prio changes and she’ll be decent

[daring garden]

like what if they removed her top special, and replaced it with armored clap

that would be spicy lmao

[grim helm]

Unpopular opinion probably but Batman needs an increased cooldown on his batarang

[daring garden]

very popular opinion

[desert rapids]

Absolutely not unpopular 😭

[daring garden]

bro you could make any statement about batman needing nerf's or greater cooldown and 9/10 people will agree

nobody except batman mains like batman

[stiff nest]

dude, she can kill Iron Giant at 35% from anywhere on the map. I don't have to play her in real matches to know that she's better. Also, Garnet is getting another buff on top of the buffs she previously had gotten. ur just bad lol

[daring garden]

id argue against that but again ive literally never seen an iron giant

ofc she needs buffs on top of the buffs she got because trying to main garnet is like trying to run up a sand dune

[grim helm]

I feel like genuinely Batman and Superman are probably the ones that stick out in my head for nerfs lol

[daring garden]

they are definitely in the top few that need nerfs

[sharp widget]

superman needs hitbox corrections

it hits more from behind than in front of him

[desert rapids]

She’s getting a buff on top of a buff because she is the worst character in the game man. i’ll load into lab and show you that you’re completely wrong about the 35% sewage that you just spewed onto your keyboard (at least against a hard ig bot)

[daring garden]

do yall think Jake needs a nerf or is that more a issue on my part

[grim helm]

Jake stretch arm spam needs a nerf imo

[signal cargo]

Fix Bugsbunny, he is becoming a post-lost-match character.

[grim helm]

But that's literally it

[daring garden]

lmao facts

[grim helm]

Bugs needs so many fixes, he can literally get hit while tunneling

[daring garden]

he is the salty boy's ego pick

[desert rapids]

saying garnet>iron giant is genuine delusion you’re just pisslow 😭😭😭

[grim helm]

If they prioritized hitbox fixes and such I genuinely don't think Finn would have needed the up special nerf

There is such a lack of input priority against Superman lol

[daring garden]

i got 3k coins, who should i get that isnt superman or batman

[grim helm]

Who do you have

[daring garden]

yall seem kinda reasonable

[desert rapids]

Ig is my 2nd main after garnet and I can comfortably say ig is better than garnet

[daring garden]

i only got Garnet rn

and wonder woman, cause tutorial

[desert rapids]

steve

[grim helm]

I'd say maybe shaggy or bugs or even possibly Jake

Steven is free rn to try

[daring garden]

shaggy is bussin good

[stiff nest]

she's is not the worst in the game LOL. ok, literally do it. u sound so brain-dead. can't even use the singular brain-cell u have to figure out how killing Iron Giant at 35% from anywhere on the map as Garnet is very much possible

[desert rapids]

or T&J

[grim helm]

Or wait till Morty comes next week

[daring garden]

i cant tell if Shaggy is overpowered or if its just that im Garnet

[grim helm]

I don't think shaggy is overpowered, he actually just got a nerf

[daring garden]

hes definitely very strong

maybe not op tho

[desert rapids]

Any player that has thumbs is not dying to garnet at 35% at any place in the map I promise you

[inner pasture]

fix your servers

[desert rapids]

sped takes coming out from the top 6 mil ig main

[daring garden]

you would have to be in incredibly unfortune circumstances to lose to garnet at 35%

[signal cargo]

Finn's attacks hits first than the animation

[desert rapids]

no you would just have to be the worst player on the servers to lose to garnet at sub 80

[gleaming summit]

NERF SHAGGY KICK, CAN NEUTRALIZE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING

[daring garden]

average multiversus player

[desert rapids]

if you time it right garnet neutral attack has prio over shaggy kick

that is the ONLY interaction in the game that garnet has prio

[daring garden]

garnets neutral is pretty good

[grim helm]

That's input priority lol

[daring garden]

especially that its chargable so you can variate on when you let it fly, making it harder for people to guess when to dodge

[gleaming summit]

HUH

[grim helm]

Input priority is when you do an input and it is cancelled by another one when the original clearly shouldn't have been. Other characters like bugs and Superman are like this and so is finn. In the patch notes they said it was coming next update with hitbox fixes

Take superman's grab for example, the hitboxes can grab from above him and it can go through a lot of moves

[signal cargo]

Tom and Jerry Side Normal is extremely spammable

[grim helm]

Don't think Tom's rocket should hit for 2 hits and go through shield moves and then hit you right after

I also think on shaggy's respawn he should have a sandwich lol

I honestly think triple jump is the most obnoxious perk ever in this game imo

[stiff nest]

alright if u say so. it doesn't matter where u DI/KBI once u get it and I'm pretty sure Garnet can do it on every character. once more people figure it out I'm not even gonna be surprised

[daring garden]

garnet has pretty good offense, her true combo's are short but sweet, her primary issue is just the horrid priority issues

[grim helm]

Garnet is actually so underplayed and fair that it is a genuine skill issue if you lose

[desert rapids]

he doesn’t understand

useless telling him

[grim helm]

You can out iron giant at 35 percent if they are on outer sides and you keep spiking them. You just are wrong lmao

All tank characters have increased weight and can be easier killed with down velocity

[stiff nest]

Jesus u guys are bad at thinking, no wonder why u play Garnet 💀

[grim helm]

I don't play Garnet lmao

Nice job assuming ig

[unborn apex]

bro i got banned 💀

[grim helm]

I've played against her as iron giant and it's a genuine skill issue if you lose

[grim helm]

LMAO WHY

[unborn apex]

im guessing my name

it was HitlersPenPal

[grim helm]

No wonder lmao

[desert rapids]

I can get you in touch with the rank 1 garnet who will say the exact same thing i’m saying

[unborn apex]

but like its been like 2 weeks 😭 and ive sent 3 appeals and changed it

[desert rapids]

if you think we’re just “too bad” to understand

when you’re top 1 mill at most

[unborn apex]

i was number 12 batman on that acc to

[grim helm]

He just mad cuz he's dog actually as an expert character

[desert rapids]

I beat him on any character of his choosing too that’s the craziest part fr

[grim helm]

LMAO

When hitbox and priority get a fix I already know Finn mains are gonna want it fixed lmao

[vagrant umbra]

I think it would be cool if we could hear the enemy team' announcer whenever they take a stock or win a match

[stiff nest]

yeah because they're biased, all they play is Garnet. Iron Giant mains realize he is a bad character. the devs don't care that he is bad because the players themselves complain the most about him specifically, they want player retention

[grim helm]

Iron giant isn't bad though

Dude he's an expert character it's okay to suck

And if you are getting boddied at 35 then it's a skill issue especially when there is a Garnet

The only one I can even argue that really can pose a threat to iron is LeBron with his bball spam

You either just put bad perks in or just suck as him

[stiff nest]

he's categorized as expert because he cost 3k gold, not because he is extremely hard to play 💀 Garnet has abilities he can't dodge, including regular attacks. bro, u are literally a biased Garnet player

[grim helm]

They are expert because they have complicated movesets

I don't even play Garnet lmao

[lunar imp]

Pls give us (if possible next patch) the option to key's for specifics moves just like the stick options :c it will make so many characters more enjoyable.
Or at least take following option away from the "Keyboard and mouse" section.... Keyboards don't have sticks o.o neither does a mouse
Right stick "Special Or Attack"

[grim helm]

I body her all the time

Dude you literally make iron giant players look bad

[cursive rain]

anyone who thinks giant is a bad char is just objectively wrong imo

[grim helm]

I could maybe understand more if you said Jake but literally still

[cursive rain]

super heavy with massive hitboxes u can literally button mash or spam and you'll usually get atleast 300-400 damage

giant can also just a wall you put in front of your other character so they can carry if ur not good

[inner pasture]

I like using him - but honestly I have yet to fight a good iron giant

[grim helm]

Iron giant is an expert because of how complicated his kit is but his kit does massive damage if used correctly

Like bruh you actually have a skill issue if you are getting boddied at 35 as Garnet lmao

[cursive rain]

and his neutral special is broken

ignoring knockback is an absurdly strong mechanic

[grim helm]

And being able to increase knock back on already strong moves is just wild

[cursive rain]

and he has a command grab

[grim helm]

He has big AoE

[cursive rain]

most of his attacks are able to hit both teammates if you play them right

[minor ledge]

Please allow the battle pass to give back gleamium that literally makes slot of people just not buy the battle pass

The costumes are already so expensive by themselves and we don’t get anything back from buying the battle pass

[grim helm]

AGREED

Was disappointed Kung Fu shaggy wasn't a bp skin and shagworthy was tbh

[stiff nest]

ok then Tom & Jerry should be categorized as expert, except he's not. wait till next patch when Garnet has faster rockets, an even better neutral, and side-air. it makes sense why u think Iron Giant is good because good players only make up 5% of the MVS community. drops the mic

[cursive rain]

tom and jerry are expert

[grim helm]

Tom and Jerry are expert??

Are you dumb lmfao

Good players know how and why others are ranked and don't complain due to a skill issue

Good players give toasts and compliments in a skill issue

The fact you typed the mic drop is so cringe. LMAO

[cursive rain]

being a good player makes you cool

also idk what % I am

[grim helm]

No one even said anything about Garnet getting a buff either

[cursive rain]

but I'm rank 9k in 1v1

[stiff nest]

my fault then I had expert & experimental confused. besides that, it's crazy how u completely disregarded everything I said about Garnet. actual Garnet player

[grim helm]

I even said she was fair lol

[cursive rain]

garnet is balanced she's just not aggressive like other characters which means u have to play against her a bit different

[grim helm]

She has actually good zoning too

If you are a good Garnet you can easily kill others

How did you get killed in the 30's iron

I actually want you to say the moves used

[stiff nest]

HMM.. I wonder how many moves Garnet has that are kill moves or abilities that lead into small kill combos. 💀

[cursive rain]

I mean technically you can kill with any move

[grim helm]

If you got killed at 30's then you got hit by a little amount or like one combo really

Were you spiked out or???

[minor ledge]

Don’t even wanna buy the battle pass that seems so greedy

[cursive rain]

I mean everyone gets ledgeguarded sometimes

[stiff nest]

that's crazy. so Garnet went from being able to buff herself in 32 frames to 12 frames while getting the passive ability to block projectiles while she's dancing. she also is able to kill with every single move, and have armour on her grounded side-attack, and now in the next patch she gets a better side-air, and less whiff. definitely the worst character on the game

[grim helm]

Like dude if you didn't even do a rematch then you low-key were just bad

[cursive rain]

garnet isn't the worst

I think she's pretty average

[grim helm]

But iron giant literally has aoe and if you let Garnet get song up then you are just not good

You can actually grab her or use any move move besides range

If you got spiked then it makes sense you lost but if you weren't then it's a genuine skill issue

Iron giant literally can have a shield that blocks all attacks

The feedback here from me is that hitboxes and input priority need the fix very fast

[stiff nest]

wow u still can't figure it out after all this time. u literally put down-special (the star) on the side of the map, near the kill-zone. u zoom into the enemy, they bounce off the wall and u spike them. the entire thing is a true combo. even if the spike doesn't kill, she can do a neutral-air that covers a lot of options. what does Iron Giant have? a combo breaker that takes forever to get. that's it

[grim helm]

So the complaint really from this is that you aren't good as a heavy character lmao

Actually skill issue

[stiff nest]

no, the complaint is that every single character in the game has a combo that either kills Iron Giant or puts him in a position to where his weight does not matter one bit

[rustic ingot]

I hope Ranked has a Duo Queue and a Solo Q for 2 v 2

It's really not fun to solo Q and be forced to play against a Communicating Duo, since you are guranteed to lose, and not everyone wants to be forced to use LFG to talk to strangers online just to play without getting destroyed

[grim helm]

They should actually remove the fact you can't receive money on decay and just increase how much is lost and decrease how much is received with up special. I know this is an unpopular opinion about Finn but just my thought.

I don't think the characters should be receiving buffs or nerfs honestly till hitboxes and such are fixed

[rustic ingot]

Superman needs nerfs to his grabs, atleast let people struggle out of them or struggle to reduce the distance thrown

Pretty much everyone runs a Superman, Velma, Bugs or TJ, it's not even fun they are all broken with no actual weaknesses compared to others

[coarse prism]

Arya is not balanced anymore.

[daring garden]

Arya isnt that bad

[cyan patrol]

She wasn't balanced before. Now she is actually decent but there are still other characters better. She is like A tier

[cyan patrol]

Yep, the hitbox change is going to mess up all the balance changes they made. Characters like finn will probably be garbage and need to be buffed after the hitbox update lands

[daring garden]

her hit priority seems a bit low for having a literal sword but yeah, her actual moveset and as a character she is A or B tier

[rustic ingot]

There is no Hit Priority

just who hits first online with rolllback

[cyan patrol]

She has tiny hitboxes

[daring garden]

[cyan patrol]

There isn't yet. Hit priority is different to hit and hurt boxes

[daring garden]

you two are the only people ive met in my like two and a half days here who say that, so idk

priority is a thing as far as im aware

and its why Garnet is such an awful main, because literally everyone has higher priority over her attacks, meaning they will always land before hers

[cyan patrol]

Nope. Priority means you both connect but one move takes priority so only that hits. Right now it can look like that but what's actually happening is one hitbox is hitting a hurt box while the other hasn't yet

Garnets fun attack has a pretty big hitbox so that move often connects over others but the rest of her move set is pretty awful

Front attack *

[daring garden]

alright but if that is the case, then why can i watch my attack make full visual contact, while the enemy attacks after its landed, yet they still get advantage

literally every single match with Garnet

what im saying is yes both are connecting

[cyan patrol]

Because the graphics visuals aren't representative of the actual hitbox and hurtboxes

[daring garden]

this game sucks mad donk

[cyan patrol]

It's part of why they plan an overhaul

[daring garden]

still doesnt make sense why just about everyone else i have met and conversed with here would disagree with that

at least those who i have conversed with on the topic of priority

[cyan patrol]

I don't know who you're taking about because everyone I've seen talk about it says what I'm saying

[daring garden]

same for me but opposite

[rustic ingot]

There is also a reddit thread about the lack of hit prority it's like the 2nd thing that hsows up

[daring garden]

reddit is goob asf

[rustic ingot]

So is Discord

Infact this DIscord is from Reddit as that is how most people found it

[daring garden]

thats a shame

[rustic ingot]

But if you want to deny the Hit Prority stuff because it's on reddit then 🤷‍♂️

[daring garden]

im not rlly trying to deny what you or animus is saying, im just saying that in my time on this server i havent met anyone with that view of the matter

ive talked to at least 10-15 people so far

and well, when you see direct 'proof' of hit priority in game, like when you throw an attack, watch it land, but get overruled because why not, it makes somebody lean more to the other side

[cyan patrol]

You're assuming hit priority when these things can also be explained by bad hit and hurt boxes. The only people who truly know are the devs. I thought they made a comment but I'm not finding it. Closest I found was an article saying is generally believed multiversus has no priority

The general belief, however, is that MultiVersus doesn't have a Priority system. Instead, it relies entirely on the size of hitboxes and hurtboxes.

So I guess I'm not sure

[daring garden]

doesnt surprise me that a channel made for garnet mains, who all face the exact same issue would all collectively agree on priority

i stg every character channel in this server has its own distinct community, each with its own mental disability

[cyan patrol]

A lot of the attack interactions don't really make sense. You can have two shaggy do side kick against each other and toss a coin as to who ends up getting hit. Sometimes the person who initiated the move first, sometimes not

[daring garden]

there are no uncensored words to describe how bad that is

[eternal moon]

Add gamechat

[stiff nest]

ok I figured out how to make the game fair for everyone.

• Categorize Tom & Jerry as Expert and Experimental, nerf his close-range damage because he outputs way too much, actual braindead character.

• Nerf Superman's dodge distance and/or weight.

• Buff Reindog's side-air startup frames (make it come out faster)

• Nerf Batman's Bouncerang to only give 3 stacks of weakness instead of maximum stacks

and then whatever afterwards u can buff/nerf

[quiet lantern]

ok, i figured out how to make the game fair for everyone.

-Nerf that combo that iron giant can grab you and insta kill you out of the map with a upspecial

-Nerf the weight of iron giant

-Delete iron giant(potencially)

[stiff nest]

nerf your thought process. it doesn't exist anymore

[quiet lantern]

Sorry. 😦

[maiden spindle]

Get rid of Bugs down air -> neutral air loop combo and also get rid of Harley Quinn forward ground -> down air -> forward air loop combo. Infinite combos (or at least true combos that get you to 90%+) that you can do off of a stray hit should not be in the game.

[marsh yarrow]

add a pause button when playing with only bots.

[maiden spindle]

When the timer for new missions hits 0, I should get new missions immediately.

[sleek ginkgo]

3 man 1v1v1 mode gladiator style elimination 1,2,3 slot which is picked by party

please add

[ebon hill]

guys i think i figured out the rank system and why its so stupidly broken

dm me if you want the explanation

[vivid wadi]

and the next thing, I just wanted to be able to test the characters I bought or test because of the rotation, but the match making doesn't help much because I end up with a good guy with a high level and that's stressful and makes the game less interesting for those who just want to test the character and caidm with high level people with high level of experience with that character

[ebon hill]

you could practice in the lab

or 1v1 a friend to practice

[vivid wadi]

I prefer with player, bot and very boring :/

[ebon hill]

get somebody, make a custom, and 1v1 them

there are so many options to practice beforee you play

[pulsar tendon]

true

also u can also try to not be bad

but that might be hard for you

[wheat pecan]

The devs should seriously consider looking at the skilled based matchmaking (MMR) because it is absolutely broken at the moment (in 2v2 in particular).

[pulsar tendon]

FAX

[ebon hill]

dm me. i learned how it worked

[pulsar tendon]

LISTN TO THIS MAN

mmr is broke

[flat badger]

i second this statement

[ebon hill]

its not broken, its just terrible the way they do it

[flat badger]

yeah no it works

[pulsar tendon]

works at being trash

[flat badger]

yee

i went to 1,156 MMR to 9,57 after losing 3 games

[pulsar tendon]

💀

[flat badger]

you lose 1 round in a best of 3, still win and get your mmr tanked

[pulsar tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

[flat badger]

yee

https://multiversus.bugs.wbgames.com/bug/MVS-1-2702
I made this bug page incase anyone wants to vote for it

[wheat pecan]

also brand new player who has never played before gets matched vs level 20+ (account level) and gets stomped and then most likely uninstalls

so I don't know what the devs are smoking but it ain't good

[silver adder]

@civic lagoon

[flat badger]

also not to seem desperate but you guys should probably vote for this mainly because most MMR bug reports are just people wining and not actually saying what's the problem, plus there's 10 swears per square inch of most pages lmao

[icy raven]

please change mmr system

i get barely mmr for winning 3 sets in a row

i lose one set and drop like 1000 mmr

currently rank 6,500 or so and was 3,000 cause i lost 2 sets

going 2-1 and winning a set also shouldnt make you lose mmr, literally punishes you for winning

[wheat pecan]

I seriously feel like the playerbase is shrinking because the influx of new players get stomped by a way more experienced people in PVP because the matchmaking does not work properly. It literally matched a brand new player vs level 20+ which resulted in a stomping. Also those level 20+ are probably not the right MMR because they play multiple characters since for some reason the devs thought the MMR should be bound on your highest rated MMR character and not split it character by character. Please, fix this.

[void wigeon]

Matchmaking might be broken but it's based on MMR not character/player level. MMR is split character by character but it only shows your highest MMR in a character

[wheat pecan]

it's not working correctly though

unless you are one trick pony

[flat badger]

yee, you kinda need a good mmr to stop vetaren syndrome

[jagged spire]

there is no overall mmr in this game, the only tracked rank is based on your character

[vast quest]

it does not

[wheat pecan]

you need to play the same character for the system to match you with opponents on your skill level

[gleaming summit]

It does, almost every move I’ve tried it cancels out

[jagged spire]

yeah to actually gain visible mmr you need to play one character a lot

if there was an overall mmr, youd gain with anyone

[void wigeon]

there might be when Ranked comes out. I don't think they will do for each character in Ranked Mode

[jagged spire]

i'm hoping this is the case

[wheat pecan]

they need to seriously look at the matchmaking system before any ranked mode comes out... if quick play is broken I can't even phantom how ranked will be\

[jagged spire]

the issue can be fixed by tracking overall mmr and treating sets as one game rather than 3 separate games

[vast quest]

It very slow start-up you easily dogged it all and jump out of it. If you are special with armor it beats it. Most Shaggy players don't use them because it is easily punishable. They have read if you're going to run or not.

[void wigeon]

if Ranked is overall, not depending the character it won't be broken because it's going to be MMR based and it will track overall

[wheat pecan]

it needs to track individual characters

right now it tracks your highest one and that is it

[jagged spire]

thats what it does right now lmao, and thats why its broken

[wheat pecan]

if you play anything else you will actually lose mmr even if you win

[jagged spire]

you can go on sites like tracker.gg and look at the exact mmr for all of your characters

[wheat pecan]

i know and its broken

[jagged spire]

even if they aren't your most played

[wheat pecan]

not gaining anything for winning

[void wigeon]

but it tracks individual, but only shows your highest in-game

[wheat pecan]

unless you play your highest mmr character

I can't possibly believe the devs intended the system to be like this

[vast quest]

It very slow start-up you easily dogged it all and jump out of it. If you are special with armor it beats it. Most Shaggy players don't use them because it is easily punishable. They have read if you're going to run or not.

[jagged spire]

as long as ranked is based on overall mmr i think it's gonna be fine

players like me are at a disadvantage for not playing one single character and i dont think this is intentional

[gleaming summit]

I never said dodging, I said moves in general

[void wigeon]

agree

[wheat pecan]

so it works fine for you? I am not gaining anything with anyone else other than my highest rated one, I think once you play your first game or two the game puts you in a bracket and that is it

I have over 70% winrate and haven't moved in my mmr

[jagged spire]

nope it doesn't work for me either dw

i have an 80% win rate and my shown mmr has been locked for a while

[wheat pecan]

yeah so what is up with that

[vast quest]

ya telling how to beat the move

[jagged spire]

it says i'm only 30k rank which is just not the case skill-wise

[wheat pecan]

imagine someone who plays this game a lot and is locked in the same mmr as a brand new player, it just makes no sense

[gleaming summit]

Idc about that at this point cause if u dodge if they just end up punishing you if they’re decent

[jagged spire]

yeah like my 1s and 2s career ranks are 60k and 30k respectively despite the fact that i have 5 characters at least in top 5k

it is what it is tho, hopefully ranked will fix the issue

[wheat pecan]

I mean it would be great if ranked is better, but they should fix quick play as well lol
don't leave it like this

[vast quest]

If you dodged first you can punish start up a combe if you r closes

[jagged spire]

hopefully ranked also has better map sets

i dont think a map like scooby's haunted mansion should be in a competitive gamemode

[wheat pecan]

in most competitive games you can "ban" maps you dont want to play so they could easily use similar system

[jagged spire]

they need to reformat several maps to be flat or have a few platforms

[jagged spire]

but they can also reformat existing maps in ranked to make them more competitive

for instance, cromulons can be fixed just by removing the 2 speakers

[wheat pecan]

they could but honestly the maps are the least of their problems at the moment, they need to fix the MMR and hitboxes

[jagged spire]

tree fort can be fixed by removing the trees

etc etc

[wheat pecan]

there's some perks that benefit from those things though

punching someone into a wall

[jagged spire]

at the same time it takes away from skill expression and makes certain characters better than others, in a competitive environment you should look to see who the better player is overall, not who is better at taking advantage of a gimmick on a certain map

thats why those maps are banned in tourney

it takes away from the competition

[wheat pecan]

I guess

although I like the gimmick of it

[jagged spire]

and i think competitive game modes in games should seek to emulate tourney rulesets as closely as possible

[wheat pecan]

makes the map a little bit more interactive

I hate the elevators in the mansion though

have had quite a few close calls

[jagged spire]

exactly, those are elements that detract from competition

in quick play i think its completely fine and its whatever

but in something like ranked i think its more important to just be the better player

like imagine how it would make you feel if you lost to someone because they used the randomly picked map to their advantage in a way you could not

[wheat pecan]

most maps have some gimmick to them though

they will need to rework all of them almost

I think that sort of thing should be kept for tournaments

[jagged spire]

which i would imagine is not difficult at all

[wheat pecan]

they will become too bland though, all maps the same, just different background

[jagged spire]

thats like 99% of competitive platform fighter maps

because competition should be consistent and you can't have consistency with gimmicks

[wheat pecan]

I guess, but at that point they have to remove perks as well

[jagged spire]

almost every platform fighting game map is either flat with no platforms or is flat with 1-3 platforms

because thats what works and it works great

[jagged spire]

as of rn perks don't really do a lot and some perks are already useless in certain situations

in fact certain characters have main perks which are completely dependent on which gamemode you choose to play

[wheat pecan]

there's perks that counter some character specific things

like projectiles etc.

[jagged spire]

and i think thats important

you want counterplay

[wheat pecan]

but it wont be fair to the mage player lol if its totally random just like the maps

[jagged spire]

perks aren't random tho, you see who you're playing against beforehand and can choose your perks depending on who you're up against

that adds an element of counterplay

[wheat pecan]

I guess that's true

[frigid jackal]

Wonder woman’s side special needs to be nerfed. I’m not even saying this as a skill issue, I agree when I play her that it’s OP. When the person just spams it it’s as bad as when the taz tornado was broken.

Just a recommendation though.

[dreamy wigeon]

Matchmaking system needs fixed

[quick crypt]

My game has been very laggy on Xbox ever since the update

[eternal moon]

fix online for avoid lag

[quick crypt]

?

[tame oak]

fix ther servers

[white dagger]

I'm quite sad, we never got the ranked and arcade in the update. It feels like that was such an important missed opportunity. A lot of my friends ended up leaving saying, they don't have a reason to play now and looking at the steam charts, the player base is now 1/5th of it's original release size. 😦

[wheat pecan]

they said ranked will be coming with the new hitbox update

[void wigeon]

can you send me that? I probably missed

[wheat pecan]

I read it on twitter from one of the devs

i will try to find it

I can't find it, but I remember it was basically PFG not wanting to have their first ranked season to be with bugs and glitches and with the old hitbox system

[void wigeon]

I don't follow all devs o Twitter, only Tony and I didn't hear him saying or any other person saying a date so I don't know if they said it a date

[wheat pecan]

date? you mean release date for ranked?

I think they only said it will be during season 1

[void wigeon]

yeah

[void wigeon]

that we've know for a while. you said it would be coming with the hitbox update and I didn't see anyone saying that

[eternal moon]

Yeah, this game wants to be competitive, but the perks system, as well as having, like, zero stages with no gimmicks is going to hurt a lot

[karmic ravine]

Automatically unlock a character after getting them to level 15

[eternal moon]

as well as adding characters so often. because of 2v2, the number of new metas is [(number of characters+1)*(number of characters+1)]*2 (huge but my calculation was wrong) with each new character

[daring patrol]

how can you gusee its facts lol

[wheat pecan]

I mean, if the hitbox update is coming soon and ranked is coming soon I don't see why they would release ranked before the hitbox update

[daring patrol]

^

[void wigeon]

I heard hitbox update was coming soon but I didn't hear it anything from Ranked mode

[wheat pecan]

they said it will be during season 1, after the main issues with the game are taken care of

that most likely includes the hitbox

[eternal moon]

but Morty will cause MORE problems, just watch

[wheat pecan]

https://twitter.com/multiversus/status/1556088757694119938?s=20&t=zzR8tcUloIsbSt8Iv1WAvw

[void wigeon]

it sure does

[void wigeon]

we've got this like 2 weeks ago. I know it's coming S1. just don't when exactly, like the month, the update, this kind of stuff

[void wigeon]

random reply based on the message you replied to, but alright

[wheat pecan]

can expect it soon after the hitbox update gets released, in my opinion

[eternal moon]

What I mean is, Morty being added will cause more people to complain about balance

because every new character will have to be heavily user-tested

[void wigeon]

sure

[eternal moon]

that means the week after a new character is dedicated to rebalancing, and that's at the very least and they get the rebalancing perfect on the first try

[void wigeon]

definitely

[eternal moon]

What people forget about the Smash DLC is, we got a new character every 2 months AT BEST. And they still had to make changes based on how people were playing in the days after release.

I can't wait to play this game in 2024 with a roster of 30-40+ characters and a potential story mode, and at least one or two new stages

[void wigeon]

agree. this game has a lot of potential, especially with which rosters to add. they have a lot of amazing options

[short narwhal]

Shaggy’s Leg range has too much range

[rustic ingot]

Every character's range is too much

[eternal moon]

It's tough. I don't want this game to die, quite the opposite, but I find everything they're doing right now kinda... odd. Specifically, the focus on the competitive side of the game, when you have to have a dedicated balancing team, and that's on games that don't even have frequent character additions

[rustic ingot]

Iron Giant can butt slam you when you are behind them they can Uppercut you from their feet

[void wigeon]

yeah. hitboxes are not working properly yet. it's coming soon an update for that

[rustic ingot]

I know but it's still annoying

If you got a teammate that focuses Iron Giant, he's just dead

if not he's a menece, Bugs can down air you from Platform height

and I pray Ranked has a Solo Q and a Duo Queue

[void wigeon]

probably will

[rustic ingot]

I have no hopes only praying

[fallow hollow]

Honestly Iron Giant is having a rough time,

[eternal moon]

How's ranked gonna work? I mean, couldn't someone just outrank people by playing the game more often?

[void wigeon]

we don't know how ranked will work yet.

[fallow hollow]

Obviously the higher rank you are, the better title

[tame oak]

is it just me or have you not had a legit game in a while

like im just getting side spammed by superman

[rustic ingot]

I just hate getting random players who literally on their 5th Match their whole career, and getting matched against Evo Finalists or Top 30 it's not fun you just lose

Like why even put the effort if the game is just trying to make you get stomped

[inner pasture]

facts

Recent match stats...

Me: 2Kills 404 Damage
Teammate: 0Kills 61 Damage
OP-1: 3Kills 313 Damage
OP-2: 1Kill 363 Damage

I had 1 death btw

[rustic ingot]

Then they add Lebron right after nerfing Batman, because the projectile was beyond annoying to deal with lol, Lebron in a Duo is just on stoppable>
Meanwhile you have the Top 30 Players, and there's not a single Assassin it's all Bugs, Velma, TJ, Shaggy, Iron Giant, only Assassin is Arya in 1 v 1s

[random elk]

I think adding Walter Hartwell White would improve the game ten fold🤝

[rustic ingot]

Like I Legit don't have fun anymore unless I play Bugs or TJ they are just better assassins and bruisers combined

[rapid geode]

Nerf Tom&Jerry

[west ridge]

Jesse, Bugs is so degenerate Jessie. How am I supposed to beat him

[sage mural]

^ nerf tj, bugs, Velma (and Jake ig while you're at it)

[echo frost]

Would appreciate if you didn't make rude comments and also don't bypass the filters

You can have an opinion but you need to give constructive feedback within the server rules, not that rant you just made, appreciate the understanding

[rapid geode]

I mean bruh idk how u expect people to have fun in this game if they abuse the same characters and yall dont do nothing ab it?

[void wigeon]

Mods are not the devs. they can't do anything about it

[echo frost]

This is a BETA product subject to change, you need to keep that in mind

[void wigeon]

and this too

[rapid geode]

Well the beta sucks, idc what yall think of it but ill be better of playing Brawlhalla then this buggy game

[echo frost]

Fair enough, you entitled to that opinion you stated it, time to move on

I very much insist

[west ridge]

Characters having different patches in singles and doubles would fix a lot of the balancing problems in the game. For example, lebron in singles is a pretty bad character but in doubles he's not bad at all. So as to not buff him too much overall he could have certain changes only in singles. Like lebron side b will have shock wave again to compensate for the fact you can't pass the ball to teammates anymore. Another character this would massively help is reindog simply due to the fact that a couple of reindogs moves simply don't work in a singles format(aerial up special, neutral special), they could be changed to work differently in singles but keep their original function in doubles. For example, reindog aerial up b could get a hitbox and work as a psuedo spin dash (sonic the hedgehogs side b in smash).

[rustic ingot]

Having diffirent balance for Singles and doubles is extremely difficult and would make characters feel so diffirently between modes

[west ridge]

the game modes already feel incredibly different

[rustic ingot]

Game modes can feel diffirent but talking about the characters

[vast quest]

I Think only balancing the 2v2 because it there main game and what advice to the public.

[rustic ingot]

I knwo they balance for 2 v 2

[west ridge]

There's no way to balance around the 2 and it's a very unique situation because singles and doubles are both kinda equally popular in the community

So it'd be better to just have seperate patch notes for each

[vast quest]

Probably won't do that

[rustic ingot]

I just hope the Overhaul is Monday

and maybe a Superman Rework in the future, his current kit just isn't healthy, Multiple Armor sources, large aeria denial, 2 Grabs who have large hitboxes, and the only counter is to not get hit or else you just die, Ice Breath slows and pushes people back

[spark dew]

For a game with multiverse in the name, it doesn't cover all the continents . Sad to see asian fans not getting the game

[red sluice]

Takes too long to get games to start, way too much waiting in menus

[pseudo sparrow]

Jake needs nerf simple.

[limber lily]

It seems a little unfair that some characters get new moves when on cooldown while others get nothing. It should be consistent across the board - while on cooldown, you get some weak move to replace it. Stuff like Steven's side kick when he can't do the shield projectile or Bugs' ear twirl when he can't do the rocket, just on everyone. I get that it makes Batman, an already strong character, even stronger since he would gain new moves, but it's something that needs to be consistent.

[inner falcon]

Make it easier to level up the battle pass.. because even 600 bp points dont even get u a full level, and you expect me to get to 50?

[inner falcon]

that’s jus u

[red sluice]

no everyone is saying this

theres too much time in menus, it should be simplified and expedited

[cyan patrol]

I think the idea was that you pick your character blind, in that you don't know your enemy character either. That is the first phase. Next when everyone sees the match-up you pick talents because you may want to adjust what you choose now that you know their characters. Or at least that's the idea, but in reality talent choices are more about your own team and therefore could be done in the same phase as when choosing characters

[near pawn]

They are not going to prioritize 1v1 over 2v2 or seperate them mechanically, ever, especially because

What about when they add 1v2? 1v3? FFA? Possibly expand the player count?

They'd have to practically overhaul the game and potentially double everything to keep them running seperately

[eager bridge]

Kinda crazy how many players this game has and they still haven't fixed the servers.

Do we have a time for when the servers will be atleast be worked on?

[signal steppe]

knockback balancing is wack

[dusty wharf]

I’m taking a break until ranked comes out. Just a heads up, I legitimately will probably not play this game any longer if ranked mode comes out and certain maps aren’t addressed or made optional by some sort of veto system. In particular scoobys haunted mansion is by far the most frustrating, unintuitive map I’ve ever played in any fighting game or platformer in my life, the amount of times I feel like my game was lost purely due to being cheated by the idiocy of the stage makes me legitimately end sessions early and not even want to play the game anymore. Getting a character to 200 percent because all of your kill moves ricochet off the walls only for you to die because of the idiotic stage holes butchering your approach options, or getting gimped off the top of a stage by a fluke up air at 80 percent on a tank is just beyond disgusting. Other stages have problems with handicapping certain characters moves and playstyles, this map is just straight up unfun. If we can’t get some sort of compromise here then I don’t even know what to say. I genuinely would opt to never play this map again if I had the choice with every character on the cast.

[wheat saffron]

okay

[stiff nest]

ugh, man, the whole projectile meta is so lame. it's even more dumb when u give characters that are heavy access to it

[plush basalt]

REMOVE THE STUPID WIN A GAME WITH NO PERKS DAILY

I JUST DID IT IN BOTS NOW I QUEUED ONLINE AND HAVE NO PERKS EQUIPPED

[stiff nest]

yeah I'm done. Tom & Jerry, Superman, and Batman ruined the game for me

[limber lake]

I really hope they fix the servers soon please....it is literally unplayable and not enjoyable experience to have. I will just stop playing for a while and just wait if it is gonna take awhile 😦

[hasty girder]

Add the ability to play free for all with just 3 players, annoying having to add a bot. Smash Brothers Allows freedom of custom games - surely this game can too

[median sapphire]

Increasing the coin amount after each match

[tepid dirge]

says the iron giant player

[burnt tusk]

We need to fix the servers asap. Its unplayable

[stiff nest]

yeah, says me. nothing is wrong with Iron Giant, everything is wrong with being able to have high-damage projectile spam while still being able to have good melee attacks and more priority in close range. They nerfed him for no reason, and School Me Once isn't even a good perk, especially against Tom & Jerry. So yeah, the game is a trash piled abomination. it's like trying to make poop look shiny, it's still poop.

[west kelp]

spikes shouldnt kill at 30%

[ruby tide]

there really needs to be a minimum connection quality setting for matchmaking

preferably also with an option to search for people with wired connections only

[stone cobalt]

oh boy do i love how the MMR system takes away like 50MMR when i just barely lose a match where my teammate's game crashes and my teammate in the match is an A.I 🙂 and it was also 4-3 stocks, i almost won single handedly against players that were the same MMR as i was. yet when i win a match 4-0 or 4-1 against people the same skill range, i barely gain 20-30mmr. make it make sense

it just doesnt feel rewarding at all, the way you can lose so much in such an unfair matter

and barely gain from a dominant win

[tepid dirge]

spike should kill at 180% fcking just fly back in like nothing happen love it

[stone cobalt]

i literally just lost 10mmr after a 4-2 win with me getting all 4 knockouts and ~500 damage

winning = losing

[hallow ingot]

the mmr is think is messed up rn

and the ranked system is going to rework it

which is really good

i just dont like how certain characters get nerfed to the ground when there are chartacters who are still way to op i.e batman superman and jake. SOmeone like finn didnt deserve 13 nerfs and iron giant didnt need nerfs as well

[stone cobalt]

as far as balance changes go, im really glad about the velma changes, and im a velma main, and im really happy about it

it's forcing other people to play the character to her full potential using her entire kit, not just run and spam projectiles all match long

[plush basalt]

nobody has realised it yet but Iron Giants nuts and bolts forcefield is the mosf broken cancer ability in the game and needs super nerf

[hallow ingot]

the balance changes for cetain characters were biased bc ppl got mad

the only thing needed a nerf was fin's bag and that was it

[plush basalt]

lmao 💀

[hallow ingot]

people complained bc he was free to use and everyone spammed him

the fact that he is literally the only character rn that gets punished by spamming attacks is insane to me

if he spams he doesnt get gems and he gets attack decay but their are others where if with attack decay they are still stupidly good like harley and jake

[plush basalt]

finn wasn't broken he was just a noob destroyer the real problems are IG, TJ, and Bugs

[hallow ingot]

i agree

[stone cobalt]

jake's side air is a big complaint of mine

[hallow ingot]

3 attacks of jakes is a problem

[stone cobalt]

it's too spammable and it should be on a cooldown similar to how his up special's stretch is

[hallow ingot]

i agree

[plush basalt]

Jake is fine not even S tier he's A

[hallow ingot]

he is s tier rn

i got him at s steven at s

[plush basalt]

isnt

[hallow ingot]

finn is b

[stone cobalt]

Jake is B tier overall in my opinion, but against certain matchups his side air carries

[hallow ingot]

when u know how to spam him like high tier players do he counters everyone

[stone cobalt]

nah

[plush basalt]

S - bugs, IG, TJ, Shaggy

[stone cobalt]

Jake is good against certain matchups like Taz cus Taz has no range, and Jake is good in lower MMR

[plush basalt]

maybe velma

[stone cobalt]

Velma is a very 50/50 between S and A tier imo

[hallow ingot]

jake is also broken against finn

[stone cobalt]

she's still very useful and viable

[weary forum]

Please add perk presets/loadouts so that players dont have to keep switching manually

[stone cobalt]

^^

[tepid dirge]

what beatas what

mid attack and everything beats me fun really fun

[vale bear]

Nerf superman

[wheat pecan]

iron giant is the absolute biggest cancer of a character in this game

and this comes from someone who got grabbed by Superman and killed on low dmg many times

I honestly feel disgusted by playing Iron Giant

don't know how everyone else plays him without feeling a bit of shame

[hollow crow]

Uhm I think MMR is broken, still going down when winning

16-4 - Winning most matches, less MMR when I started 😄

[wild shadow]

prevent you from instantly rematching the person you just declined to rematch

[wheat pecan]

this is the second game in a row

where I get a player who has no idea what is happening on my team

vs a fully well aware team that is skilled

https://i.imgur.com/JW0IaK1.png

like what is this @devs ?

then the game before that I get this guy who has never played a game in his life
https://i.imgur.com/qmNKwpt.png

fix your broken mmr system

[stone cobalt]

day number god knows how much of asking for a jake nerf

[tired gazelle]

I bought gleniam but i don't see none and it charged me?

[void wigeon]

people had purchase issues a while ago. didn't see anymore for a while. if you bought and changed platforms it won't appear in the platform you didn't buy. if this isn't your case, ask WB support here: https://go.wbgames.com/WBHelp

[dusty wharf]

Giant is a cheeseball character but i don’t hate any characters as much as the general engine which basically rewards hitbox spamming purely due to the lack of end lag and how a usable dodge is.

It’s no wonder why projectile characters dominate the meta where neutral is so mindless.

That being said, the biggest problem with the game by far is the stage design. Scoobys, Tree Fort in 2 v 2 and the stage where there’s a giant platform in the middle ruin core gameplay of the game and invalidate entire characters kits. For example Superman can not even use his aerial laser on the latter two maps due to the platforms getting in his way when he jumps.

[main falcon]

where asia server?????

[dim bramble]

Perk Usage: newer players can view most common perk combos on characters

[peak herald]

This hame is unplayable every time I join a game my teammate just thought the game and purposely walk of the stage

[paper kestrel]

shaggy kick is just... well you all know

[glass crag]

Stop nerfing Batman and nerf Harley

[rose sage]

Can we get further customisation of our stick deadzones, similar to FOR HONORS stick customisation settings

[last robin]

They managed to break superman after the latest update. To win playing with superman, all you need to do is stand in the corner of the map and wait until the other players comes towards you and throw them downwards. Superman needs to be nerfed asap. There's literally no way to counter that attack and I am only going against people playing with superman after they discovered this.

[glass crag]

Sounds like skill issue

[rose sage]

Superman is pretty easy to deal with tbh

[glass crag]

Only his ariel I would consider “broken” other then that he is balanced

[rose sage]

True

[last robin]

Not when they're doing that crap, South America servers are filled with superman mains doing that bs

[rose sage]

U mean grab spamming cuz thats the only broken thing really

[last robin]

Yeah, grab spamming. They just hold onto a ledge and wait for you to come towards them. Then they grab you and throw you downwards

There's no way to counter it. You just need to accept your fate and stay away from them

[wheat saffron]

FIX IRON GIANT BRO OR DELETE HIM FROM THIS STUPID GAME BRO 465 DAMAGE DELT TO HIM BUT HE DOESTN STAY IN THE ABYSS YET ALL HE DOES IS USE THE DAME 3 MOVES OVER AND OVER AND EDGE GUARDS

[echo steppe]

Perhaps a better visual indicator for when people are dodging or are in i-frames.
Maybe something of a visual option people could turn on or of to give some better visual feedback and clarity.
As a somewhat competetive person i feel like the dodge animation and fastfall animation can be really hard to tell apart at times, especially while having mild eye problems and colourblindness

[last robin]

Yes, Iron Giant is anything but balanced. I really don't know what was going through the developers' minds when developing him.

It's a cool character but it needs to be balanced. For example, he doesn't need to be able to fly.

[echo steppe]

Perhaps make people only be able to bounce on irongiant once while in hitstun.
Personally experienced getting stuck in pseudo infinite loop by bouncing against a irongiant and the roof om scoobys mansion

[last robin]

Yes, he also shouldn't be able to activate a shield that makes him immortal.

[echo steppe]

Well its an ability, which is breakable and you can somewhat play around it

[warm atlas]

Well he does get combo'ed alot making him unplayable if he doesnt have that I personally think he needs it

[echo steppe]

I wish they take a note from Brawlhalla and add visual hurtboxes and hitboxes aswell as the ability to frame step in replays aswell as in labs.
Adds great transparency to the game, people can tell a lot more, benefits both casual and competetive scene aswell as allows for better, more accurate aswell as balanced feedback

[warm atlas]

I think they are implementing the hitbox visuals Im pretty sure

[wheat saffron]

all these hit boxxes have to be frix

[warm atlas]

The rest would be cool thi

Although Im not into modding Multiversus ik alot of pple do so I was thinking maybe of an agreement with the community about it, what if you gave access to the workshop to other players if they either bought a bundle or payed for the workshop so that way the game makes money the devs dont waste time on making skins that only some pple want and focus on the ones the general community wants and the community is happy

Ofc it is restricted to only be skin mods and not moveset mods or else that would break the games balance

[rose sage]

Can we get further customisation of our stick deadzones, similar to FOR HONORS stick customisation settings

[ashen fox]

would still appreciate Offline mode for Steam Deck so we can practice in the Lab on the go

[wheat pecan]

+1

priority on devs list:

1. fix matchmaking (mmr system)
2. fix hitboxes
3. delete iron giant
4. balance characters more appropriately
5. release ranked

[candid forge]

There's is no point to the "Maxed Characters" badge because by the time anyone can afford it everyone will have maxed all the characters.

very disappointing as someone who likes playing them all.

10k is more reasonable but even that is audacious.

[last robin]

The MMR system isn't glitched, it just sucks. You can only get MMR when playing with your most played character, which absolutely sucks considering I don't want to be one of those weirdos that only play with one character. For example, I play with Shaggy, Bugs Bunny, Tom & Jerry and many others.

[wheat pecan]

to me that is bad design and needs to be fixed

game shouldn't be a one trick pony fiesta

[rose sage]

It is glitched we wouldnt be complaining if it were working on our mains but it isnt

[candid forge]

Only 3 characters left for me and I still need 17.5k... (out of 20) for the badge. (12 maxed so far)

it's not like i bought every perk for every character either.

[last robin]

Yes, as I mentioned before, it sucks. It's sad that you can't use other characters to rank up. I only play with Shaggy on 2v2 so I can get MMR. The best you can do is choose a character and stick to it like I did.

[rose sage]

Instead of having it be our most played character to gain mmr allow us to open a list and enable mmr gain and loss from the character we wish to play, that way gaining and losing mmr is still fair since its the players choice... anyone agree?

[quick crypt]

Wasn't this game supposed to be fully released with s1??

[rose sage]

No

[quick crypt]

Also wasn't ranked supposed to be here as well

[rose sage]

Nope

[last robin]

Like, having different MMR to each character? Personally, I don't think that that'd work. In my opinion, we should be able to win and lose MMR just by playing with whatever character we want.

[quick crypt]

I feel like only thing changed between seasons was the pass...

[rose sage]

No that isnt what i mean

[last robin]

They also fixed some bugs (and added others) and nerfed/buffed some characters.

[quick crypt]

This is what the ranked mode would be for, play ranked when you want to gain rank and play casual when you want to play casual, they just haven't implemented it yet, your solution sounds like it does the same thing but makes it 5x more confusing

[rose sage]

Its really not confusing idk how u understood it bud

[last robin]

Oh, like having some characters to get MMR, instead of just one.

[quick crypt]

Yes because making a list in the middle of a game and choosing who gains ranks is simpler than 2 different modes

[rose sage]

Ffs no that isnt what im saying eaither, the gains and losses wont be limited to the character of choice ffs

Instead of having it be our most played character to gain mmr allow us to openly select and enable mmr gain and loss from the character we wish to play, that way gaining and losing mmr is still fair since its the players choice... anyone agree?

[rose sage]

Also i wasnt talking about introducing different modes i was talking about introducing a system that avoids having to force players to burn them selves out from playing their main inorder to gain mmr, Whilst also maintaining the carefree freedom that we currently have in trying out new characters on online modes

[jade jay]

god this game really loves its shields and its strong characters beinh faster than the light weak ones

[rose sage]

For example if i chose a character other than my most played character (harley), say like jake, id select him from an option and allow myself to gain and lose mmr while playing him, and when i choose to play anyother character seen as in the options my selection for gaining and losing mmr is still jake i can remain to train with characters that i havent ever played without the worry of dropping in mmr

[quick crypt]

That's why I brought up modes. Once they add a ranked mode you play in ranked with whatever character you wanna gain rank with and then play in the normal casual mode with whatever characters playing carefree whether you win or lose

[rose sage]

I see what you mean but im targetting my solution for mmr in casual mode

[clever pewter]

oh wait wrong channel think

[wheat pecan]

just have mmr to be for each individual character instead of it being on your highest mmr one

it's really simple, don't know why the devs decided it not to be that way and incentivize one trick ponys

[storm mauve]

Are there plans to improve the Perk selection interface? It needs some big QOL work.

More specifically:
Ally perks should be maintained between rounds,
Selecting a perk should move the 'cursor' to the next open perk slot,
Selecting the perk that is in the currently highlighted perk slot should count as selecting it and move the 'cursor' to the next slot instead of doing nothing.

I am constantly entering matches with some perks not equipped and its very annoying

[rigid crypt]

It seems to me that toms mallet attack has too much priority

[maiden spindle]

Add cooldown to T&J dynamite

[maiden spindle]

Good ideas 👍

Make Batarang have some cooldown. It's crazy how little he has on it. Also it shouldn't aimbot to hit opponents.

[storm mauve]

It doesn't aimbot, batman has to manually aim it. And the cooldown is only short if he picks it up again

[maiden spindle]

Batman threw the batarang and it changed directions and hit me midair

[storm mauve]

yes, he can aim it mid air

go try it in training

[maiden spindle]

Dang, I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me

[storm mauve]

might be worth taking a read through all the characters move lists. A bunch of characters have random stuff you'd never know if you don't read it

Iron Giant's passive is longer than most characters entire move list for example

[wheat pecan]

do you lose mmr if you quit before the match begins in 2v2?

[stiff nest]

exactly. Tom & Jerry also has an attack where they becomes a walking hitbox that can lead into an up-air kill. the fact that they're categorized as expert is far from the truth

[wheat pecan]

sounds like you never played T&J if you make such a statement

[stiff nest]

weren't u just hating on Iron Giant when u play an S tier character? blocked. literally anyone can go into training mode and find out for themselves

[wheat pecan]

rofl

I am not one trick pony I play multiple characters, fyi

and everything I said about Iron Giant is true

[alpine dune]

giant has so much cheese potential its crazy

[alpine dune]

he may be an s tier but you cant just pick him up and do good with him

[stiff nest]

controversial opinion, Iron Giant (should) have a lot of cheese. The entire character roaster can do the same to him by putting him in a hitstun combo that he can't get out of. IF he gets out of it by using bolts, people literally just repeat it over again. for whatever reason, every. single. patch he just keeps getting nerfed. the casual audience is so brain dead, devs need to stop listening to them

[wheat pecan]

he is so tanky that you can't even throw him out with over 200 dmg, it doesn't matter how much comboes you do on him when he can hit you twice and put you on worse HP than the combo you did on him

[alpine dune]

grabbing someone at 0 and spinning them to death to the side of the map shouldnt be a thing . my main issue with him are the hitboxes and this "combo"

[wheat pecan]

his attacks will also hit you first (if he is a good IG player) because of his humongous hitbox

the only way is to cheese him when he does some attack like the cannonball down where he has cooldown on getting up

[stiff nest]

whoa it must be so hard to play Tom & Jerry. spam high-damage projectiles, spam down-air + neutral-special, run away, and abuse grounded side-attack or grounded up-attack to lead into combos or just for hit-priority, so hard 💀

[stiff nest]

yeah, they fixed it, it doesn't exist anymore basically which is trash

[alpine dune]

Tony himself said that t&j do well only in high mmr games. Im sure they have some data on it

[stiff nest]

see, this is why I dislike Multiversus right now. balancing is made around people that don't even know how to play the game

[winged haven]

Elaborate

[stiff nest]

literally read the past history

[winged haven]

So you lose to tom&jerry and now you think ur the only one who knows how to play the game

[stiff nest]

It's more like I lose to braindead characters like Tom & Jerry, Superman, and Batman that do nothing but spam projectiles but it's ok for them to be so braindead because casual players are even more braindead that they don't know exactly what to do to use them effectively

[winged haven]

The slingshot is one of the biggest part of his kit and leads into a lot of combos so I understand if people use that a lot

The rocket is easy to dodge as well Idk why everyone complains about that

[eternal moon]

Please nerf bugs again. His moves have way too much priority

[winged haven]

<@&882349260409032746> someone get this man

[echo frost]

Lets not use that term to reference a players mind state, might be lesser skilled folks but its harass to describe them that way

[hexed zealot]

anyone know when they’re gonna fix server lag cuz I cant play a match without lagging

[quartz bronze]

Some people just take the game to seriously

[stiff nest]

well, they are and it's not referencing anyone in specific

[hexed zealot]

Don’t call people braindead because you keep on losing to them

[loud gorge]

nerf superman's up special

[stiff nest]

I can call people braindead all I want as long as it's not targeting towards someone in specific. I'm not sorry that u are offended by a small word

[loud gorge]

ok but nerf superman's up special

[hexed zealot]

Tf is wrong with you. Theres no need to be mad that your losing matches man up and stop crying

[winged haven]

People really take games so seriously

[hexed zealot]

they really do

[quartz bronze]

Dude you got owned by a t&j player and you are complaining about how is brain dead people who use said character, like learn how to play against every character

[stiff nest]

well first off, I'm not mad. the gameplay overall is just brain-dead right now

[wheat pecan]

is anyone going to tell @stiff nest that you can literally one shot Jerry before he can even hit you (counter special attack when he slingshot jerry, like the WW shield bash, Shaggy kick, Arya needle dash attack) and you can also one shot jerry on the ground

[loud gorge]

tnj is pretty insufferable to fight against ngl

i can beat him but he's just not fun

[quartz bronze]

Fair but you can play around t&j you just gotta learn

Iron giant was a problem for me not anymore

[hexed zealot]

then don’t play it💀💀 If you dont like the game then go find another game to complain about this game is amazing and so is the devs if you lose to a t&j how are they braindead?! T&j is the hardest character to learn in mv so dont give me that bs

[loud gorge]

iron giant is only dangerous when there are 2 of them in teams

[wheat pecan]

hey, iron giant mains ruin my whole effin' day, so does jake mains and some superman mains, but I don't go around crying that much (except for IG sometimes)

[winged haven]

I swear people get dogged on by a character once and come rushing to the discord and say they need a nerf

I used to be that person 😭

[loud gorge]

some do tho

[quartz bronze]

I just adapt to their playstyle so i dont lose quickly

[loud gorge]

like superman's up special should not kill at 10

[wheat pecan]

if you think about it, every character is overpowered in the right hands

[quartz bronze]

Yup

[stiff nest]

I literally only play Multiversus because Iron Giant exist in the game. how about instead of keeping the gameplay the way it is, someone changes it from the projectile meta. that would be crazy, poggers. maybe then it would be fun to play

[hexed zealot]

They literally had a patch that fixed the whole meta so idk what your talking about

[quartz bronze]

^

[stiff nest]

ok dude 💀

[hexed zealot]

the most broken characters aka velma and bugs got nerfed so pls stop complaining

[wheat pecan]

I am not even pissed at the balance that much, I am more pissed that if you don't have a partner in 2v2 it literally puts you in unfavorable matches and you are suppose to win 2v1 almost or if you do get a decent random partner, the opponents are super high rated for some reason

[alpine dune]

Bugs is still the best in the game at least in 2's

[stiff nest]

if that's what u think, fine, but u are wrong

[wheat pecan]

Sammyy: "You are wrong, I am right."

devs listen to this man

[loud gorge]

internet arguments

[hexed zealot]

Lmao keep telling yourself that💀💀

[echo frost]

Can we also get back to a conversation or comments centered around game feedback instead of this debate

[loud gorge]

yea like nerfing superman's up special

[echo frost]

This isn't the channel for that, might want to take that to #off-topic or #general

[wheat pecan]

😂

[echo frost]

I respect the request

[alpine dune]

I wonder how theyll deal with batman for example. He is busted in 1's but worse in 2's

[loud gorge]

anything they do with batman is gonna get complaints

[wheat pecan]

anything they do to anything will get complaints

[alpine dune]

He just does what he wants right now. Super fast, possibly the best projectile in the game, little whiff recovery, baterang combos into anything

[wheat pecan]

no one wants their main nerfed

[loud gorge]

thats why i have 2

[wheat pecan]

yeah same I play 5 atm

[alpine dune]

He should be an assasin to be honest

[wheat pecan]

T&J, Arya, Finn, Wonder Woman and Harley

[loud gorge]

i chose the best main to counter bats imo

the house special and the chomp move neglect the batarang like a 17 year old dad with their child

[alpine dune]

Yep Jake is pretty good against him

[wheat pecan]

assassins are the worst class

[loud gorge]

mages

[wheat pecan]

super squishy for no reason

[eternal moon]

Are people who bought the battle pass getting burned out faster than normal players? Fighting games are terrible for the live service model

[wheat pecan]

tanks are probably the best

[alpine dune]

Its stupid that he can pick up reflected baterang

Should be changed imo

[loud gorge]

its fun

i like throwing his own batarang against him

[alpine dune]

I meant that batman can pick it up

[loud gorge]

ah

well yea thats why i use chomp mostly

[ruby axle]

thats what assassins are

thats the concept of the class

you have to stay stealthy because you cannot rush in and tank the damage, you should always die if you play like that

But to buff them, give them more damage

[wheat pecan]

that is the concept indeed, but right now there is no real reason to play them when that is the case, they don't really bring much benefit over the other classes in my opinion anyway

like tanks and brawlers and mages are straight up better picks

[lunar imp]

i can just repeat my self, pls bring a keybind option with keyboard for Air down light attacks :c
I need it....

[alpine dune]

Tony said they have been working on some new keybinds for keyboard players. Hopefully its coming soon

[lunar imp]

WUUUUHHH !!! I LOVE THAT THE DEV'S ARE LISSENING !

[lunar imp]

that is the only thing, that bothers me so mutch that i don't play 1v1

[alpine dune]

Im gonna run out of keys lol

[lunar imp]

i mean, i play keyboard only

[ruby axle]

use 2 keyboards 😎

[lunar imp]

so i got the whole numpad from 1 to 9#

[manic solar]

I would like to suggest
Local duos(requires another account on console) vs online

[ashen needle]

fix ur knock back god it’s so ass

[loud gorge]

nerf superman's up special

[manic solar]

Also if any of the opposing Disconnect, game immediately ends and it shows who disconnected
if partner gets d.c.ed you dont gain a loss(unless the score was 2🔵-3⭕), but the other team will gain a win

[near pawn]

Put gleamium in the battlepass

[ashen needle]

and fix hitboxs this game sucks ass I be inside people and rip there skull out and it doesn’t hit them but when I’m 5 inches away from a Batman attack it hits me

[manic solar]

Free battle pass

[near pawn]

Nah, premium lol

[manic solar]

No free as well
Just not as much as premium

[jade jay]

wit hthe excpetion of finn, assassins are easliy the worst class in the game

by far

[ashen needle]

ur dumb af

[wheat pecan]

even premium only is fine, but having none at all is very bad

[jade jay]

every character has 1 of these 3 things are assassins: faster movement, faster attack speeds, or heavier

[manic solar]

Finn isnt the only assassin?

[near pawn]

Not having gleamium in the premium completely killed my hype for the game as it stands lol

[jade jay]

harley and arya are assassins

[eternal moon]

nope

[manic solar]

Ok but im saying have some in the free pass, and even more in premium

[near pawn]

I don't see much of a financial incentive to put it in the free, but having it in the premium hooks people easily

[wheat pecan]

I know what you are saying, but lets hope they put some in at all lol, right now there is none

I will be happy if they put some in the premium only

[manic solar]

Let me change the wording as if its from fortnite

[near pawn]

When Halo Infinite, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Fall Guys, Master Duel, etc. all have it, it makes this game's battlepass look sadder

[manic solar]

Theres v bucks in the free pass and if you play long enough you can finally get the premium pass(like 3 seasons later)

Thus here

If you play long enough on the free.pass you can get premium once (if you are a try hard)

[jade jay]

this games battlepasses so far have been completely lackluster, granted this is only the second one, so i hope to see better ones soon

[near pawn]

The first battlepass was actually amazing

2 fully voiced characters for $3

[jade jay]

nothing on there appealed to me personally

but if u liked it then hey, great 🙂

[manic solar]

You paid for playable characters?

[wheat pecan]

cant compare every game to the biggest game on the planet mate, not even fortnite begun the way it is right now

[near pawn]

You couldn't get Cake or Shagsworthy otherwise?

[manic solar]

Oh, skins

[near pawn]

Yeah, but again, fully voiced lol

[manic solar]

Cant, and can

Fortnite might be the biggest but it aint perfect

Literally people come back on for the skins

[near pawn]

Fortnite did give VBucks on its first battlepass though

[rustic ingot]

Fortnite also has Epic money, even before BR took off they they had bunch of money from selling their engine

[manic solar]

Multiversus is on epic

Somehow different device badge on matchmaking

[near pawn]

Multiversus has WB money

[manic solar]

Huh?

So he didn't know what he was saying

Got it

Oh you meant the wins badge

The wins on a character

[wheat pecan]

wrong

you unlocked skins which you could buy with vbucks which you had to buy with real money

[manic solar]

No v bucks were free if you were good enough

[wheat pecan]

what? lol

[manic solar]

Battle Pass

[wheat pecan]

the first season had a progression xp system which when you went through it (similar to a battle pass) you unlocked different skins at different tiers which you could buy with vbucks (real money)

there were no vbucks rewards for playing

[jade jay]

this hitbox update cant come soon enough

[manic solar]

I think you haven't played fortnite yet

[wheat pecan]

bruh I play since closed beta I have over 2k hours in that game, don't teach me how it goes

[manic solar]

V bucks are a reward

[wheat pecan]

I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST SEASON

not the current itteration of the battle pass

[grand hearth]

Will there ever be a way to watch my friends play random matches?

[manic solar]

Spectator? Not yet but i wish

[grand hearth]

Yeah I wanna spectate

[wheat pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Uk6jzkIbw
only way atm I think

[near pawn]

That wasn't a battle pass

[manic solar]

Anyways my argument was that it should have some gleam not much since a non-gold character unlock is 300*

[wheat pecan]

it worked the same way though

except you bought the skins individually instead of the whole pass containing them

[manic solar]

10glem every 10 pass levels

[wheat pecan]

that is nothing at all

should be 100 glem every 10 levels if its 50 tiers

that way you recoup at least 50% of the cost

in fortnite not only do you get the whole cost of the battle pass back, but you get some extra vbucks on top

[manic solar]

That would be 400 if theres a prize at max pass
And i didn't know you get refunded for buying the pass

[quartz hamlet]

UNBALANCED CHARACTERS:

iron giant doesn´t even move before 180 dmg
jake is automatically equipped with thorns IV
velma´s attacks always hit first (no matter if you hit earlier then her)

[manic solar]

But i think being refunded the pass and the next pass cost the same seem confusing in the long run

[manic solar]

Dont get me started on velma and Jake's machine gun combo

[quartz hamlet]

yes thank you

[manic solar]

It covers half the stage

[quartz hamlet]

you can´t even hit them

[manic solar]

And its tracking

Me and the lebron character just took the L because we were down in points

[manic solar]

I want to re present my original suggestion

[wheat pecan]

that is easily abusable

[manic solar]

They get a win if they had a score of 3 and the opposing team dced

Plus who would abuse it if the matchmaking is random

[wheat pecan]

partner dc'ed and you don't get a loss?

[manic solar]

That requires having a partner

2 sessions at the same time

And it only helps the opposing

Since they get a win

[wheat pecan]

it helps you

your partner dc if the match is about to be a loss and you skip getting a loss

[manic solar]

Well im pretty sure it will add a rule to make that bannable

If you have 20 games in a row and all of them are (partner dc loss) and all 20 are is the same person dc-ing, they both will get caught

[cursive coyote]

South America servers are trash rn

[ebon hill]

I’ve had people dc half a second after the last stock so none of the ending animations happen, but it will still count as a win or loss. I have gained mmr off people doing that

[final tendon]

I got a couple suggestions with the Bruisers in this game. As it is, Batman's play style seems more like an Assassin (fast character, has smoke and grappling hook to get in and out of combat with). It's also weird how he's such a light Bruiser so the Assassin damage offset could allow him a bit more weight as far as balancing (not sure I fully understand the increased Assassin damage but it's whatever). And/or Lebron seems to play more like a Mage/Ranged character with all of his specials being projectiles (w/ ball). These suggestions don't really matter much unless class-based milestones and missions get implemented again. Which might be nice cuz Wonder Woman's shield projectile blocking mission is getting old but I also got tired of playing Bugs for my Mage milestone before. In short, lots of Bruisers who all don't really need to be Bruisers?

[manic solar]

1 they will(make it a milestone again)
2 just get one of each class

Also lebron has more melee attacks then projectile

[stiff nest]

please, please, please add character rank decay. I already talked about how ya'll need to nerf Tom & Jerry, Batman, and Superman so I won't go into that. What needs to be addressed right now is Labs, we need to be able to adjust how many jumps a bot does, what direction they dash after hitstun, etc. if that takes too long then at least let us record what input the bot does ourselves and have set to repeat, even on resets. speaking of resets, when u change map like to Batcave for example, any environmental change isn't reset, u have to change the map back and forth

[final tendon]

I already have most of the characters unlocked. My suggestion was more so to help balance it in it's current state. Also Bugs has a lot of melee attacks too but he's considered "ranged" so it's pretty subjective at that point.

[edgy schooner]

these severs gotta be fixed. im done losing a good fight with good players cause im constantly lagging. i have disconnected everything from my internet and i still lag almost every game. idk if its the servers, other players, or what but it needs to go cause i cant play this game lagging like this. my internet is perfectly fine at 30mbps i test it constantly so i know its not just me. am i lagging cause one of the players in the match are? cause thats not fair at all if so. really ticked off rn so im sorry but i really enjoy this game but when i can barley hit people and keep a combo cause of lag it really kills the fun of the game. sorry for the rant but im ticked rn

[terse hemlock]

Battle Pass lvling is way to slow. As a casual player i won't ever be able to finish it

[manic solar]

Bugs has more projectile attacks (rocket, safe pie, the ability to set warps) and also can stun
And my argument about lebron is that all of his specials is a one ammo projectile, and then is only melee

[manic solar]

You aint the problem
Its the others

[final tendon]

That's fine. I'm not here to argue. I just wanted to suggest a couple things with all these "bruiser" characters and current milestones and missions.

[manic solar]

👍

Turn off auto team then

[final tendon]

I'm actually not even sure why you're replying. Just seems more like you're adding noise.

[edgy schooner]

so why should everyone suffer cause one person has bad internet? and it didn't look like my opponents where lagging at all. and it happened multiple games in a row...

[manic solar]

If you mean in a custom lobby, idk how that happens, its supposed to be private
But auto forming partys happens when a set is over and if one person dosen't decline, yall become a party(and the party boost gets added)

But unless you mean you want to play 1v1, thats a different story

[manic solar]

It's the problem every gamer has
Lag

Please explain

[magic rover]

Allow the ability to add bots for local game play. Me and 3 of my brothers can't even play properly with our needing a forth controller.

Or allow a free for all game to start with 3 people not only 4 players exclusively
Sometimes we just want a free for all with just 3 people on local. AND onlinr

[edgy schooner]

ive ben asking for this for while. i think it is confirmed but who knows when

[manic solar]

You said 4 people (you and 3 bros)
But yes we do need 3 player ffa

[magic rover]

(Oh I mean 2 😅)

Oh and 1v1/2v2 options to have items one.

And friendly fire 🔥

[manic solar]

Friendly fire?

[magic rover]

That last part was an obvious referance to a certain game XD.
imagine iron giant mains XD

[manic solar]

Oh
Friendly fire...

I get the 2 mixed up

[magic rover]

one other thing is for free for all to have a Stocks mode where it is based on who many lives left you have

[manic solar]

Forget that, have stocks tied to the player instead of the team

[cyan patrol]

For FFA it should be a 5 minute match, infinite stocks. At the end of the match one point of awarded for each of the following: most knockouts, most damage, most assists, least deaths. The player with the most points wins and if there is a tie the one with highest damage wins

[manic solar]

Thats what ffa is

[cyan patrol]

No it's not. That's not how the current scoring system works at all

[magic rover]

that is what I meant XD like if a one team member uses up their lievs they can't come back. but that system to where they can at the cost of the other teamates's life there should be a "allow teamate to come back at the cost of your extra live"(cannot comeback if you only have one life left

[manic solar]

Share stock -smash.bros

[magic rover]

Right...

[bright rampart]

fix these dogshit servers

[cyan patrol]

The matchmaker needs to wait longer to find a better match. Right now it's like "oh I've been searching for 3 whole seconds and haven't found a better match so let's just put you against someone far below or far above your skill level". Like make it search for longer before selecting. It's worth waiting 30 extra seconds to get a good match vs a bad one

[daring garden]

on my mommas left nut screw batman, legitimetely cant play the game against the mf as garnet, in the most truthful way i can say it, you just cannot even attack him compared to what he can do to you

if the dude decides to throw his own attack even 200+ ms after you do, his will still land first

even against attacks where your entire arm animation goes through him

[modest shoal]

Better lab mode, we wanna see hitboxes, hurtboxes, active frames etc

Improving mmr would also be swagn

:)

[devout pecan]

make it so arya starks sword doesn’t go on her teammates 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[eternal moon]

Still waiting for the patch that fixes batman hook teleport and batarang spam.

I'm literally going crazy with mains batman dominating 1v1 spamming the hook and batarang and killing me with uppercuts

[stiff nest]

this is my last gameplay feedback. I played for 7 whole hours today and I gotta say, the game will never be good in 1v1. In 2v2, it's pretty much the same just with more players on the map. the skins for cool though

[blissful hornet]

My character suggestion #character-wishlist message

[void wigeon]

character suggestion is in #character-wishlist

[blissful hornet]

Yee it is just promoting it so more people see

[void wigeon]

oh. sorry

[cyan patrol]

That would be nice. The exception being if you take the one special talent meant for it

[void wigeon]

just contact costumer support. it's not here

[safe wadi]

Would be nice to have a setting to toggle seeing your teammate's cooldowns

[rustic ingot]

I hope the Patch is tommorow

If I have to go against TJ and Bugs Duos every match

[eternal moon]

Dangit, people need to stop creating fake move-sets for potential characters in this game. If Tony acknowledges your Tweets, Player First Games is now legally obligated to compensate you if any of your ideas enter the game, since you now have Timestamp proof Tony saw your Tweet.

[rustic ingot]

i'm going to lose it

[eternal moon]

That Walter White Tweet? The fact Tony saw it and replied to it means Warner Brothers won't want to touch that franchise with a 10 foot poll because now there's possible liability

There's a reason that, if a studio like Pixar gets sent ideas, their assistants have to screen them so there's no possible legal liability.

[rustic ingot]

Please make Jerry a projectile so Anti-Projectile perks and moves work against that Slingshot it's hitbox, damage and knockback is way to strong

[daring garden]

FR Jerry has no reason to not be deflected as a projectile

[rustic ingot]

Mages have no reason to be so good, they are Hybrids but with better Vertical and Hortz then any assassin or bruiser, smaller hurtboxes, no glass cannon debuff, and insanely oppressive, what's the point of Assassins if Mages are just better?

[daring garden]

this game has no reason

its just unbalanced garbagry

[ashen needle]

it does like 7 damage ☠️

[rustic ingot]

That's more then most single hit attacks, Even Shaggy's Kick is 9

[daring garden]

still doesnt change the fact that its a projectile but doesnt have to be restricted like a projectile

[ashen needle]

it’s really not a big deal

just kill Jerry

[daring garden]

fr? just like that?

[rustic ingot]

Just kill Jerry 4Head, have you seen any good players just let Jerry die hell you can carry people back and forht with it

[ashen needle]

they have bigger things to deal with like nerfing Batman and fixing hitboxes

[daring garden]

where has this been my whole life

yeah they certainly do got bigger issues to deal with, but that doesnt mean it isnt an issue

[ashen needle]

nerfing Batman

[daring garden]

absolutely

i dont think there is a bigger change required than hella nerfing batman

hitboxes are definitely a number 2

like Garnet is basically only F tier because of how jank her hit and hurtboxes are

[rustic ingot]

So you're Bias, because you say Batman needs nerfs more then TJ

[daring garden]

thats just an obvious

[rustic ingot]

Because Mages right now are all insanely strong and broken and pretty much outclass majority of characters it's not like majority of Top 30 and Top players are Bugs and TJ

[ashen needle]

yeah

[rustic ingot]

Garnet isn't even F Tier, it's just other characters just out class her

[ashen needle]

what is their to nerf about tnj

what isn’t their to nerf about Batman

[daring garden]

well they can only do one thing at a time, yeah TJ and bugs are both probably high on their list of fixes, but not highest

[rustic ingot]

Hitboxes, Combo Potential, Health, Weight, Etc

[ashen needle]

he only has 1 good combo and it’s one of the hardest to master in the game ☠️

and he dies at like 110

[daring garden]

but has some moves that are capable of just about disabling a few other characters

[ashen needle]

Batman hitboxes are outrageous

[daring garden]

absolutely

[rustic ingot]

Just because a character is hard to play for Average player doesnt mean that character needs to be oppressive, there's a reason people at High MMR just play Bugs and TJ

[daring garden]

in the top 30 for duels there are only 4 mages

[rustic ingot]

There's also only 1 Assassin who got buffed

[ashen needle]

there’s like 2 Tom and jerries

And bugs is not an expert character

[daring garden]

bugs isnt in as much need of change as TJ, but there are definitely tweaks to be made

i find TJ to be annoying, but manageable to fight, whereas batman i might as well alt f4 before it starts because its basically a guarunteed loss, i still fight em out of ignorance but still

[molten geyser]

I think the bot AI for Bugs is a little bit broken. I've had multiple rounds now where he would commit suicide by jumping on top of his rocket and then just standing there until it took him into the sky.

[daring garden]

bro was listening to drift away

[ashen needle]

Batman is just spam and abuse his hitboxes

they just spam grapple and a hatstand

[molten geyser]

And you know, while I'm here, it bears repeating:
When I equip an ally's perks, I want them to go into the slot I currently have highlighted, not the slot that my ally has it equipped to

Please, make this happen

[daring garden]

garnet can only do one side special in a blue moon, while batman has just about unlimited batarangs

[ashen needle]

idk why all Batman’s attacks have priority

[daring garden]

thats why batman is so impossible for me man, garnet has lowest priority

[rustic ingot]

There is no Priority, only Lag Compenstation and Rollback

[daring garden]

whatever it is, it makes the game unplayable

for garnet at least

[warm sentinel]

Nerf Iron Giant's ring out voice 😂 he sounds like the Kool aid man on the toilet

[daring garden]

i never met a IG but now i want to

[rose sage]

Instead of having it be our most played character to gain mmr allow us to openly select and enable mmr gain and loss from the character we wish to play, that way gaining and losing mmr is still fair since its the players choice... anyone agree?

For example if i chose a character other than my most played character (harley), say like jake, id select him from an option and allow myself to gain and lose mmr while playing him, and when i choose to play anyother character seen as in the options my selection for gaining and losing mmr is still jake i can remain to train with characters that i havent ever played without the worry of dropping in mmr

[daring garden]

supermans cutscene of a combo should be shortened

playing 2v2 and being pinned in one spot getting hit over and over is just killer

like maybe if they made it so when supermans other teammate tries to join in it gives you a chance to dodge out, cause being stuck between two people getting spammed is just ruthless

even moreso if its both you and your teammate stuck between that

[lavish sigil]

To be fair, Superman also locks himself into that position with no armor.

[daring garden]

how tf does that matter if neither teammates can attack

[lavish sigil]

They can because he doesn't have super armor while he's punching? just knock him out of it

[daring garden]

bro

ima like try and explain this

when your getting attacked by a true combo, you cant attack back

characters like superman have what i would consider to be pretty long true combos, if hes got you just pinned in front of him taking a several punch combo

therefor, if both you are your teammate are pinned in this several punch combo that i couldnt care to find the actual name of

neither of you can attack

most especially if like previously mentioned, both enemies are attacking while you are pinned

its had to have happened at least once per 2v2 that ive played where superman is present

im not trying to be argumentative or anything, but i hope you understand

[analog merlin]

Wtf is wrong with OCE servers I’ve been in red ping for the last hour

[toxic dew]

please change "Do the most damage in 50 matches" to 25 please

doing 50 matches seems too/much long to do

[quartz bronze]

Understandable if you dont play for long

[severe grotto]

change these seasonal challenges
"Connect 200 Fully Charge Attack" to 100 or 125
"Most Damage/Ringout in Matches 50 time" to idk 25 or 30
how its work? i had to do all of this when my friend just has to taunt in 20 matches and play as a tank 50 matches

[muted wigeon]

please and i beg PLEASE delete the adventure time map as a whole or remake it OR fix platform systems

[clear grail]

L take

[muted wigeon]

that map is absolutely terrible for certain characters especially velma

[clear grail]

we already have like 4 maps.... you want 3?

[muted wigeon]

idgaf

i don’t care how many maps there are

[clear grail]

L

[muted wigeon]

if it’s a bad map i don’t want it

[clear grail]

welp that's you... I don't see any1 else complaining

[lone zinc]

If it's Tree Fort then there is plenty of complaints about it all the time, Scooby Doo map is also heavily complained about

[bright fog]

Tbh I fine with all the maps except for the mansion

[muted wigeon]

yep it’s that

that and scooby are the worst maps

[clear grail]

personally... i think they gotta focus ALOT on the maps right now

they gotta make more maps...not tryna play the same one 4 times in a row

[muted wigeon]

starting by deleting tree fort

[clear grail]

nahhhh 😂

[bright fog]

One game I lived at 200 with T&J... I can feel the other person being infuriated because of that

In the mansion map of course

[muted wigeon]

superman is automatically S+++ in that map

you can be at 40 damage if you’re near the edge you’re dead

[frank roost]

whoever is in charge of map design is on crack

i suggest they take more drugs so we can get crazier maps

[fallow hollow]

Honestly

The hardest achievement I find is 25 ring outs when the opponent is 60 percent and lower

[bright fog]

Honeslty try to get an early Spike then

[fallow hollow]

Bots is not easy to do

[halcyon willow]

People seem so elo inflated, You find top 50k Jake mains spamming one move dealing no damage at the end of the game, Yet you see a Reindog with perfect movement at 1mil. And the fact that those 2 people can get into the same game is crazy.

[eternal moon]

How are there people saying buff LeBron. Delete LeBron.

[limber lily]

There should be a rework on how attack decay functions. As of right now, it only triggers on attacks that hit. That means 2 things: people who spam moves only get punished once they connect enough times, and there's not a good way to reset decay if your opponent is putting themselves in a position to only get hit by your decayed attack.

[daring garden]

lowkey, i think Velma kinda op

ive had a strange amount of times of being just literally obliterated while at like 50-100% by velma and idccc why

plus her word attacks seem to just outrange anything, and can be spammed pretty quick.

[stoic kelp]

the servers are horrid, fix your game pfg, its unplayable sometimes

[daring garden]

when the beta servers arent triple a quality

[stoic kelp]

when the beta servers are trash

[daring garden]

boi youu grumpy asf

[eternal moon]

Please correct day ex machina.

[eternal moon]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-motherfucker-justin-roiland-rick-sanchez-morty-smith-gif-10105614

[plush basalt]

IM LEVEL 26 JAKE AND THE ENEMY TEAM IS 22 AND 25 SO WHY DID THE GAME GIVE ME A LEVEL 7 BATMAN TEAM MATE???

he didn't even have a yellow perk and the enemy team just focussed him killed him 3 times we had absolutely 0 chance of winning that match nice matchmaking thanks game

[hollow gyro]

This dude lost to a fin and immediately decided to go on the discord and complain about it

[alpine dune]

Batman nerf idea: -decrease his movement speed, no reason for him to be faster than assasins
-you cant control your baterang midair, instead it returns to where you threw it from
I think these changes would make him less opressive in 1's without making him useless in 2's

[polar sluice]

Dawg he's the third lightest character in the game of course he's gonna be fast to compensate, bad idea

[alpine dune]

Harley and Arya are around the same weight, take 14% more damage and are way slower. Where is the logic?

[slow jewel]

Some characters needs a spam punishment, when a move is used more than 1 time in a row it slows down or drains stamina punishing the player using basic specials spams.

[wheat pecan]

I will start dodging matches that the game gives me in 2v2 with teammates that are level 1-3 with free rotation character. The times I've gotten a brand new player as teammate vs people that have spent 100+ hours in this game is ridiculous. I don't get this matchmaking at all.

it's usually Wonder Womans as well, they just finished the tutorial and queued

[wheat pecan]

lol