general

[raven goblet]

Yep

Monetization is not a factor

[hard bone]

Yes i had breh

[raven goblet]

BALANCE was the single most important thing

[dreamy stag]

😭 w pfp tho bro

[bold brook]

it didn't make sense why Velma got at least 1 new skin every season while Gizmo & Stripe are quite literally tied to having the same cosmetics.

I think Taz is one of those few who got special treatment of having a skin every other season (and Stripe)

[hard bone]

Thanks breh

[normal fulcrum]

People routinely complained about whatever models of monetization this game came out with

[raven goblet]

Their reskins had reskins lol

[normal fulcrum]

First with rifts, then with the 3 day early access to characters, then the $30 elusive skins, then fighter road

[bold brook]

Fighters Road killed the game for many people

[normal fulcrum]

Yep

[raven goblet]

Because they dumb kids who don’t know how to articulate their frustrations so they just say something that sounds smart but isn’t

[dreamy stag]

Np

[normal fulcrum]

^

[bold brook]

If Brawl Stars has to say something. being forced to unlock a certain character kills the fun for some people as you gotta grind.

in MVS, grinding is there 24/7 even for achievements!

[normal fulcrum]

The models just weren’t good. They had to commit to full skin monetization and just make the fighters free especially when things started looking grim. Even in death they didn’t unlock the whole roster

[raven goblet]

Everyone ever who has said “monetization” is just upset that the game they prayed to fail is doing just that and their $20-$100 transactions are now worthless

Lmao poetic

[normal fulcrum]

That’s unnecessarily minimizing to the legitimate criticism that the models were bad

[raven goblet]

It will never be legitimized so long as every other game on the market follows the same pattern

[bold brook]

I think the MVS models are solid ngl. some are good like Bugs, Quinn, Tom & Jerry, and Jason while others like Steven (okay maybe Steven only) aren't as much

[raven goblet]

Balance is the only valid complaint

[normal fulcrum]

What other games? How many free to play platform fighting games are out there other than Brawlhalla

[raven goblet]

All complaints referring to it are valid

[bold brook]

one dev clearly hates Jake from his bite got nerfed countless times as it carried him

I'm glad Jake is good in the current patch

[raven goblet]

Also Remember the same people who complained about money willingly went and dropped $50 for Fortnite skins of the exact same characters they allegedly hate

It’s not the money or the franchise how people spend their money is never a valid point because people are stupid in that regard

[raven goblet]

Bite deserved the nerfs because it was and still is abused by people who want to cheese

Now HOW they nerfed it has been awful

[bold brook]

Multiversus wanted to be the next Fortnite without thinking about what made Multiversus unique

[raven goblet]

You’re thinking of Rivals

[dreamy stag]

Do you think the game could've done better had it been under a different studio/developer?

[bold brook]

oh yeah Rivals (not Marvel but of Aether)

[raven goblet]

No

What was needed would be a larger team of more diverse views and opinions

And likely some long time WB devs

[dreamy stag]

😭 man the game really was doomed to fail huh?

[bold brook]

and a better budget *

[normal fulcrum]

Referring to Fortnite is a bad example now. It is easy to get invested in Fortnite after a few games because you have access to the whole game. Whereas it’s easy to be turned off by a game when 80% of the roster is locked with no clear way to unlock characters you want

[raven goblet]

Not at first
It got that way over time tho

[raven goblet]

Budget was fine

They didn’t even use most of the money anyway

[bold brook]

a good time to bring up MVS's other Rival.

a free roster makes a huge difference

[raven goblet]

Well now you see what I was saying or at least I hope so

[dreamy stag]

Dang

Are you guys gonna miss the game?

[bold brook]

yep.

it's one of the few games that I was excited for until the cracks shown the game is a mechanical mess

[raven goblet]

No lol

[dreamy stag]

Oof, why is that?

[raven goblet]

If the community was a bit better overall then maybe

If anything I’d miss playing with some of the people but I’ve already added them and we’ve moved to greener pastures

[bold brook]

unless they mod my favorite MVS characters into other and better platform fighters, I can't play as a Cat teaming up with a Vampire to Fight against a Ghost with a Banana on his side

[raven goblet]

Ghost?

Who’s the ghost

[bold brook]

Beetlejuice

[dreamy stag]

Dang

[raven goblet]

Is he tho…. But I guess

[raven goblet]

There’s nothing to miss for me I am fulfilled

[bold brook]

I'm missing the playable characters. like 8 of them but still

[raven goblet]

Bruh how ……

[red hemlock]

Fulfilled with BS 🖤

[raven goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/castlevania-soma-gif-22562413

You have chosen death

[bold brook]

well guess there's other platform fighters to play...

not Aether 2 because I don't have it yet and not planning to unless they do something massive and definitely not Brawlhalla

and not Smash Ultimate due to I don't wanna spend $20 yearly

I barely use my Switch anyways

[raven goblet]

So then you’re not losing anything

Plat fighters is already niche who cares if another one is not going to be around

Just be happy that you got to be a part of the journey

[normal fulcrum]

I don’t get why people make this connection so much. Rivals did that because it has to. Like overwatch. Overwatch got a mountain of blowback when they tried making characters unlockable

[bold brook]

the only thing worth talking is one game has better monetization than the other and that's it🤷

[mild charm]

Fought the infamous Trankilo for the first time. I've heard rumors of super campiness
Much more aggressive than other Lolas in the higher ranks

[raven goblet]

Why waste energy on a person whose using a character that hasn’t been nerfed

[raven goblet]

You mentioned monetization if you didn’t want the comparison to be made well…..

[vagrant thunder]

I hate LeBron so much. Bro should have never been added. 💀

[bold brook]

LeBron is a poorly disguised mage that's also a heavyweight for some strange reason

[undone jay]

Unpopular opinion : LeBron >> Lola Bunny

[vagrant thunder]

Disagree.

[bold brook]

Lola is what LeBron should've been ngl

[vagrant thunder]

^

At least I actually fight Lola instead of a screen full of basketballs.

[bold brook]

Lola has ball but doesn't rely on ball. In fact you gotta be more considerate with ball to do trickshots

LeBron lives off on his ball but his weakness is non existing as all you gotta do is hit a enemy, press neutral special, or block a projectile with down special.

Lola just has a coolodwn to get it back

[undone jay]

Now that you mentionned it ... I agree 👍

[bold brook]

all I'm saying is that Lola Bunny is a better desgind LeBron James and she's one of the best characters in the game

[vagrant thunder]

I honestly don't know what anyone was thinking when they approved Lebron's kit as if they couldn't see that problem of having ball being tossed every second and just having them all over the map.

[bold brook]

LeBron would be fine if it weren't for his almost non-existant "disadvantage" of being ball-less. it's like Tom can instantly get Jerry back or Taz can always spit out Anvils instead of boot.

[vagrant thunder]

That weakness is meaningless.

He literally always has the dang thing unless the player is a noob or just chooses to not use it.

[normal fulcrum]

What?

[delicate kelp]

How does lebron look stronger than lola??

[normal fulcrum]

If lebron gets a lot of balls up he’s frustrating but it takes quite a bit of effort to get that many balls up at once. More likely he just has one bouncing in place and another on his person. Lola is definitely the stronger all around character

[vagrant thunder]

Huh?

[mild charm]

LeBron is a monster in 2s
Try to have one player constantly attacking him so he can't flood the screen with basketballs

[raven goblet]

Lola is better because they had time to realize how awful they made Lebron

He can still flood the screen while being attacked
It’s funny….. he’s more of a mage than any current mage and outperforms in that regard

[magic scarab]

It was from an older time

[quiet lintel]

hehehe its ok

[raven goblet]

Watching people underperform

“Thank you for being my a friend”

[raven goblet]

Am I mean?

[indigo umbra]

No reason the servers should be shut down for this

Compared to the cost of this company its nothing for them to have the servers up

Completely robbed

[raven goblet]

True but no one will be working on the game so to keep them up without anyone working isn’t justifiable

[dull halo]

If there was something saying like free yk what they hacked my account thanks

[indigo umbra]

?

Not only justifiable but it should be considered a promise

Hope wb keeps burning

[indigo umbra]

Companies with ten times less and even less player counts do

Like

[raven goblet]

??? Sinking money into something that’s not generating revenue is justified???

You’re tweaked lol

@solar galleon 👤

[solar galleon]

send me another invite

[raven goblet]

Why because you I ignored the first

[solar galleon]

have you seriously never gotten an invite sent to you while you were mid-match?

smh

[raven goblet]

No because everyone ignores me and avoids me

[solar galleon]

nuh-uh, I'm in your lobby

[raven goblet]

But why does Taz have so many icons and Bugs has 2 …..

[indigo umbra]

Wb keeping servers open to 1k players isnt anything???

[river meteor]

?

[raven goblet]

Superman gonna hard spam fyi

[indigo umbra]

I see companies with way less keep them open for way less players way longer

[solar galleon]

I might be a bit rusty it's been a few days, just a heads-up

[indigo umbra]

Justify against all the people that spent the money that THEY spent good point

Wb is going down the drain say goodbye to ur shitdcmovies but they deserve it and have had a long time coming

[river meteor]

DC Universe Online is still running after 14 years

[indigo umbra]

Yeah thats going really well

[raven goblet]

I’m not caring

[indigo umbra]

Kiss that goodbye with pretty much everything wb has going for it in the next 2 years max

[raven goblet]

It’s been spam and hacks all day

[indigo umbra]

Watch marvel buy out DC lmao

Thatd be a fitting start to the end

[solar galleon]

c'est la vie, ranked is full of that

[raven goblet]

Doomers always whining about something

[raven goblet]

2s is worse

[solar galleon]

the spam and hacks i mean

[river meteor]

Or Universal

[indigo umbra]

Yeah whining about the couple dollars compared to wb to not cuthroat the players of the games ur currently playing

Ur really going hard here buddy

Literally it legit is a couple 100s of dollars a month to keep a couple servers open

I hope more big companies steal money from you in the future

[raven goblet]

You see

[solar galleon]

oh yeah. my bad at the end there, should've left you with the superman and gone after the charging shaggy

[raven goblet]

Who is this child talking to?

Go take a nap lol

[raven goblet]

There was nothing to be done

Both of them were gonna run and armor us

[indigo umbra]

Hope you guys enjoy not being able to play together in a month even though it'd probably cost about 300 bucks for a multi million dollar company to keep it going

[indigo umbra]

keep suckling on ur copium buddy

[solar galleon]

lmaoo the shaggy left

[solar galleon]

you sound super bitter my guy

[raven goblet]

We’re literally getting all the hackers from earlier

[raven goblet]

Isn’t loved enough I guess

[solar galleon]

I've played against the soraz guy in unranked, he's not bad

[indigo umbra]

I spent like 60 dollars on this game you should be too

[raven goblet]

Pretty sure he’s in the procord

[solar galleon]

I'm not dumb enough to spend money on f2p games

[indigo umbra]

Money isn't anything to me but its pretty funny ur guys standpoint rn

[raven goblet]

Lmao

[indigo umbra]

Defending the company that absolutely effed u

[raven goblet]

You just got roasted and served with mashed potatoes

[indigo umbra]

Ok keep spending hours?

Hours are alot more valuable than money

And iv spent about 300 on mvs

Alot

Future is doomed

[solar galleon]

so melodramatic, jesus lmao

[raven goblet]

I should’ve been meaner i was trying to be nice

It’s funny because he keeps using Bubbles

And you’re the one who kills him

[solar galleon]

there was a time or two where using the other PPG that throws you down would've killed me

guess it's hard to keep track of which one to use

[raven goblet]

Yea he’s failing

[solar galleon]

clean af

[raven goblet]

They need to be demoted to silver

They really just let anybody rank up

[solar galleon]

we had a strong start and they just couldn't get their footing lol

damn, is it just platinum V's on tonight?

[raven goblet]

They busted their kneecaps they were never gonna get it

Poor Finn …. Didn’t know what to do

[solar galleon]

that nubia has no edge game at all

[raven goblet]

I love to act out the internal monologue they’re having when they panic

[solar galleon]

I'm used to players above gold never getting hit by the hammer nair when they're off to the side

[raven goblet]

There are no good people left you could start spamming it and get to M5

All the good people have either quit or secured their rank

[solar galleon]

I'm playing for fun so I don't do that lmao

[raven goblet]

Only Smurfs and riff raff still linger

[solar galleon]

it's way more fun to switch it up

[raven goblet]

Lel I know both these guys

Jack gonna slash but he mid

Jake is a super cheeser

[solar galleon]

ez pz

[hazy sundial]

WB owns the Ip's yet decided to discontinue the games doesn't make sense at all

[raven goblet]

I feel bad for Jack he’s a decent guy

Jake deserves hell and then some

[solar galleon]

game wasn't making enough money due to bad monetization, and the current CEO has an m.o. for shuttering things that aren't profitable enough iirc

[hazy sundial]

How can it even be no profitable enough while they own all the IP's, what would say about other games that doesn't own any IP's and still running

[solar galleon]

not sure they own all the IP, pretty sure some of it is licensed

not profitable enough is a lot of money though. live service games are a gamble that companies fold on when they don't make money hand over fist

[raven goblet]

They’re spam cheesers

[solar galleon]

doesn't that go without saying at this point, you say that about pretty much everyone

[raven goblet]

Smurfs too

[raven goblet]

Well….

I just want you to be prepared

[hazy sundial]

I think WB is just not good with games as it is with movies, big companies know how to handle live services games most of the time

[raven goblet]

Harley elusiveness and agility makes her perfect for these toxic teams

[solar galleon]

probably not far off, the mismanagement is glaringly obvious. especially the monetization strategy

[raven goblet]

Why are you entertaining the peasants

We are high society we don’t mingle with the commoners

[solar galleon]

I don't mind idle chatter between rounds and don't have delusions of grandeur

[hazy sundial]

Whatchu all playing rn, I imagine most ppl switched to that Nickelodeon game with same genre

[solar galleon]

lmao that ending was funny

[raven goblet]

Lmao

[solar galleon]

we're on mvs right now

[raven goblet]

That’s how the show ended

[solar galleon]

bro got pingponged

[hazy sundial]

Nickelodeon all star brawl

[raven goblet]

You are deluding yourself into thinking anything worthwhile will come of conversation

You see they are sick people

[solar galleon]

I don't expect it to? I mean, i called it idle chatter

[raven goblet]

They’re not right in the head

[solar galleon]

c'mon, where's your whimsy and frivolity

[raven goblet]

It must be all the tap water they drink I hear it’s filled with lead

Can you imagine ….

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-carey-drinking-drink-time-wine-day-wine-gif-14720870

[solar galleon]

looking back I'm amazed that my dad wasn't a complete moron because of lead exposure

that ppg is way better than the earlier one

[raven goblet]

💀

[raven goblet]

They’re just spamming the same move

[solar galleon]

that's just PPG's kit

[raven goblet]

WW is free

PPG are doing the Batman

[solar galleon]

PPG always chains those 2 or 3 moves together if they're not hot garbage with the character

damn

[raven goblet]

You know what’s funny

Auto tech was designed to prevent combos like that and yet …..

Loops

[solar galleon]

such a horribly implemented mechanic

[raven goblet]

Such a poorly designed and balanced character

[solar galleon]

which one? lmao

[raven goblet]

Kill Marceline

[solar galleon]

on it, chief

[raven goblet]

Fake people need death

[solar galleon]

every attack I threw out got blocked by her guitar

she's evasive, too

[raven goblet]

He left and turned the hacks on

[solar galleon]

nah, it's just sweat

[raven goblet]

He’s talking smack now

[solar galleon]

ah damn, almost had the marcy when she jumped over to kill you

[raven goblet]

If we see him again it’s on sight

[raven goblet]

He really left and turned on hacks

[solar galleon]

I doubt it, didn't see anything to indicate that

[raven goblet]

He bragging

[solar galleon]

damn, I'm ngl we just got finessed

[raven goblet]

Dying at 20 ok

[raven goblet]

Not even the game let them win

[solar galleon]

nah, opportunistically chasing and knocking low damage opponents out that're near the edge isn't the game letting 'em win

I juggle people with up air and up special to do the same

[raven goblet]

It is the game

Nubia perfectly demonstrated it

[solar galleon]

yeah nah flat out, those guys were good. if you don't think so you're coping tbh

I'd toast them if I had any

[raven goblet]

If they were good they’d be in Master

[solar galleon]

I didn't say they were goated

just that they were good. takes a while to grind to master anyways, even if you are good

[raven goblet]

Not this Season

There’s less players and you get more for each win

It’s surprising that they actually fixed the gain

But it’s whatever

[solar galleon]

maybe not as much grinding as usual but it still takes time. not everybody's gonna dump more than an hour a day into this to get there

anyways, respect to those dudes. especially the bugs

[raven goblet]

I was Silver 1 when I started 3 hours ago ….

[solar galleon]

that sounds like more than an hour

[raven goblet]

Bugs literally didn’t do anything Nubia did everything

[solar galleon]

I mean... I have steam recording so I could prove otherwise but I digress

[raven goblet]

Watch it and see how Nubia carried

[solar galleon]

tbh bugs is never the heavyweight for damage and kills most of the time anyways, but the dude knew what he was doing

[raven goblet]

Not really

He was just cycling moves

[solar galleon]

oh this shaggy is gonna be annoying aint he

[raven goblet]

No he looks mid

[solar galleon]

credit where credit is due, I didn't see the jumping kicks spam

could've been more annoying

[raven goblet]

Eh….

[solar galleon]

I spoke too soon

[raven goblet]

Jinx

[solar galleon]

true, true, I asked for that basically lmao

[raven goblet]

But since his patches shaggy just goes for nair and the up combo

Since there’s very little anyone can do to avoid either

LOCK IN

You see how salty he is

[solar galleon]

looks like the bugs dropped out, damn

[raven goblet]

He is so fake

[solar galleon]

the kill you got with the bomb attached for extra oomf was satisfying though lol

[raven goblet]

He was trying to say he was better than us

[solar galleon]

last one for me I think

[raven goblet]

This is the spammiest Jake from earlier

He’s literally gonna run and punch

[solar galleon]

oh you mean hang back and try to get the punch sweetspot?

very punishable

[raven goblet]

Not with Finn running around

[solar galleon]

oof, unfortunate

[raven goblet]

🙄

These are the players who killed the game

And I don’t feel bad that it’s gone

[solar galleon]

nah, that's melodramatic. death of the game had nothing to do with the players

[raven goblet]

💀💀

[ashen fractal]

Game died because of the absolute aAsS development

[raven goblet]

Bugs is the only one with braids

[solar galleon]

that contributed but it was mainly the monetization strategy

[raven goblet]

Lel it was the playerbase

[solar galleon]

people don't want to stay to play a game and spend money on it if they can't play the characters they got it for in the first place without grinding forever

[raven goblet]

But they did so …

Wasn’t that so much fun

[solar galleon]

not in enough numbers to make line go up steep enough to keep it around

[solar galleon]

ngl I got genuinely annoyed when jake punched through the platform

[raven goblet]

There were enough idiots to pay $100 to bankroll a full year of the game lmao

[solar galleon]

initial investment isn't what makes it worth keeping around to suits

[raven goblet]

welcome to MVS

[solar galleon]

they need more money coming in all the time. Line must go up faster, and steeper

[raven goblet]

They didn’t even use all the money they made lmao

[solar galleon]

of course they didn't

[raven goblet]

The reason why every game is this way is because all it takes is 1 idiot to spend the money and then they can make any price point they want

You may THINK people won’t spend but they will

[solar galleon]

profits over everything, dude. they were banking on being able to spend little and make exponentially more as time went on

that's live service

[raven goblet]

Because consumerism has people trained to impulse buy stupid things all the time

pick any game and see they’re exploiting that

Money is no problem in this market

[solar galleon]

you're not getting what I'm saying

all these companies want fortnite money

"profitable" isn't enough

[raven goblet]

I already had this exact discussion earlier with Varelico lol

In the current market “monetization” doesn’t exist because people WILL spend money regardless

You could sell them a faulty game for $80 and they’d still buy it (it’s been done)

For MVS the development is 99% of the issue

[solar galleon]

yes, but game execs doing live service investments want more than pocket change from whales in a niche platfighter community

[raven goblet]

Live service is just modernized micro transactions neither of those practices are going away

[solar galleon]

this game was f2p, with little incentive to stick around. they were too aggressive with monetization and cut too many corners with development while being inefficient with it too

so they didn't get the large player base full of whales that they were hoping for

it made money sure, but not enough for them

[raven goblet]

They were never going to get a large base lmao you just said it yourself plat fighters is niche

[solar galleon]

yeah, it was misguided from top to bottom

[raven goblet]

The most the game would have would be 250k across all 3 platforms

[solar galleon]

it could've done better, but it was never gonna be a smash hit like... well, smash

[raven goblet]

The price points are standard for any game in any genre in the current market

The issue was the development…. Look at every review complaint and feedback it’s ALL based on developer decisions and lack there of

They didn’t struggle for money and actually didn’t even spend most of the money they had

[solar galleon]

I'm not solely blaming monetization, just saying it's the biggest factor in the game's shutdown

[raven goblet]

It’s not

[solar galleon]

the biggest factor in the game's lack of success is development though

[raven goblet]

Lol

It’s the development period

[solar galleon]

it's literally both, lol

[unreal tulip]

well, they went too generous with free gleamium at the start, and this kind of game I think people just buy what they like for their favourite character and call it a wrap

[raven goblet]

You may think so but it’s not it really is the development

[raven goblet]

Literally

[solar galleon]

the development just determines how good the game is and how palatable it is for audiences

[unreal tulip]

stickers banners and ringouts though were absurdly overpriced for a gif

[solar galleon]

that affects how many people play the game and thus how much profit is driven by their monetization

[raven goblet]

Profit is not a factor if you have poor development

You’re putting your cart before your horse

[solar galleon]

profit is the only factor that matters

[unreal tulip]

even because if you develop poorly you don't make a profit : )

[raven goblet]

👆

[solar galleon]

look at gamefreak's monstosities. hot garbage, but it prints money

[raven goblet]

Everyone loves them so no

There aren’t examples of poor development and large profit

[unreal tulip]

that happens when you have a monopoly on the market, not when you are the new guy in town

[solar galleon]

generally, yeah. exceptional cases like pokemon as I mention break that trend

and this game aint pokemon lol

[raven goblet]

Pokémon flips billions
If anything this is proving that “monetization” is not a thing because like I said people WILL buy stuff and that’s how consumerism works

[unreal tulip]

pretty much, this game is like "lords of the fallen" to "dark souls" compared to smash

[solar galleon]

I'm definitely not saying poor development isn't what killed this game. it and the monetization strategy are the main contributors

[raven goblet]

Eh

The ratio is 99.99999999% Development

The .0001 is the playerbase

[unreal tulip]

I definitely put monetization among the main factors for failure

but probably in a different way than what you think

[solar galleon]

Yeah I'll concede that it's mostly development but to say the monetization strategy had a neglible impact is just... not right imo

[raven goblet]

The easiest way to know is this … it was Tony who decided to close the game not WB and seeing as they still got paid and not fired and dissolved it definitely was a development choice

[solar galleon]

are you saying before, or this time? 'Cause I heard it was WB's decision this time

[raven goblet]

I’m referring to the official website post when Tony says it was in fact a developer decision

WB could’ve pulled the plug in the beta

And they definitely would have

[unreal tulip]

I say they intended to sell skins at the same prices of other games not considering skins here are limited to one character and aren't universal adaptors, and at the same time gave too many ways to get free gleamium and grind for that one item of your main and no need to spend.

[raven goblet]

Based on your “monetization” or whatever

[raven goblet]

That’s the current market they didn’t make the standard they just abide by them

Every game is this way

[unreal tulip]

prices for emotes and other things arbitrarily set as epic or legendary with no real merit is another matter

[raven goblet]

This is the future of gaming

That’s just how it is these days

[solar galleon]

this is the future of multiplayer games, anyways

[raven goblet]

Nah single player will be this way too

[solar galleon]

exactly why MVS is one of the only online games I play

[solar galleon]

Do you... not play many single player games? Outside of Ubisoft and Bethesda, there's not much of that going on in the single player space

[raven goblet]

I think story driven games might be safe for a while but you will likely have to play for chapters episodes and to continue story but yea multiplayer is dead lmao

[raven goblet]

Single player is going to be Sony mostly

[solar galleon]

what a strange take

[raven goblet]

70% of their catalog is single player

Microsoft is definitely more multiplayer oriented and they even charge you for it

Steam is a bag of whatever is available

[solar galleon]

I see sony getting bigger, but I don't see it monopolizing single player games and forcing this battle pass mtx driven slop on the whole category lol

[unreal tulip]

what I say is that things in other games can be used all the time without a character restriction. they should have compensated that

[raven goblet]

No that’s not what it will be and they’re not a monopoly they just make the most of the others

[unreal tulip]

and if future games don't realize that, they are probably gonna keep on failing

[raven goblet]

Single player will just break the story up and sell you the pieces…… like EA already does

[solar galleon]

what so like, you buy the dia de los muertos skin on one character, you get it for all of them? would've made it more tempting that's for sure

[raven goblet]

Skins?

[unreal tulip]

well, the recolors were reasonably cheap, but they could have definitely made a bundle to get them all
what I mean is skins are limited to a certain characters, so they should cost a bit less because of this limit

[raven goblet]

People will eventually get used to slop and convince themselves it’s acceptable

[solar galleon]

that's part of what I meant when I said monetization strategy. it's a very broad complaint. They could have gone about it in so many different was to make it work better

[raven goblet]

There were bundles for the reskins tho

And people bought them at higher prices

So any complaint is invalided by the idiot who bought it

[solar galleon]

you seem to be missing the "more people would buy it" part of "if they did x more people would buy it"

[unreal tulip]

not really, you are saying that producing 20000 cyanide taste toothpaste is not a loss if one idiot buys just one

[solar galleon]

people are gonna buy it regardless, that's not a question at this point with how people shovel slop into their mouths. but how many people buy it can be influenced by making it more appealing

[raven goblet]

In consumerism if you can get 1 person to buy something overpriced then it’s a success

That’s why luxury clothing exists, luxury cars, luxury phones, lmao even food

[unreal tulip]

the point is that the products weren't enticing enough for ENOUGH people to buy them and make a profit.

[raven goblet]

As long as one dumb person buys it that’s al the need

[solar galleon]

Yes... but a resounding success is what these types are looking for. That is, MORE than one person to buy the overpriced slop

they want to sell it en masse. you make more money that way.

[raven goblet]

Apple doesn’t need everyone to buy an iPhone they only need a few people to do and then suddenly everyone goes and buys one

That’s how people work

[unreal tulip]

this is just getting dumber, so I think I'll leave you at it

[solar galleon]

success and passable amounts of profit isn't enough for the level of greed we're working with these days

[raven goblet]

Especially considering that children were a large part of the playerbase and they are known to ask for moms credit card and spend dumb amounts on stuff …..

It sells itself lol

This is why every game adopted the model

[unreal tulip]

and that's why 90% of those doesn't make it past a year

and most likely WITHOUT making a profit in the meantime

[raven goblet]

These games cost nothing to make lol they can throw out slop in hordes but as long as that one person opens their wallet that’s all they need

[solar galleon]

okay yeah this is getting extremely dumb

[raven goblet]

Most of the time these companies just rerelease the exact same thing only slightly different and people just eat it up

[unreal tulip]

this is so stupid, one person buys a bundle and it instantly pays all the developers and publisher and platform costs?

[raven goblet]

They’re already paid

[unreal tulip]

by the same company that is trying to make a profit from said expenses?

[raven goblet]

Out sourcing labor is literally nothing

[solar galleon]

short term profit from whales that lose interest makes money but doesn't keep doors open

[unreal tulip]

okay, your grasp on marketing is the same as Homer Simpson reading those marketing books

[raven goblet]

They’d only need to cover the cost for maintaining because 80% of the game is already accounted for

You think epic is spending a billion dollars every year on game they made years ago? No lol

[unreal tulip]

that's because their skins are cheap slop slapped on the same dummy, only works because of a monopoly.
at this point is just an advertising platform
the point is they already had a return of the initial development, most games don't manage to do even that

[raven goblet]

Ubisoft Square Enix ….it’s the same when you have in house teams you don’t have to spend extra money and if you already know you’re going to serve slop it’s even cheaper

[solar galleon]

they'd rather spend the same negligible resources maintaining something that returns a *significant profit

"why spend pennies to maintain what doesn't rake in cash when you could spend pennies on another project to rake in way more" seems to be the mindset

[raven goblet]

The reality of our goods and services is that the cost to create said good/service is almost always a fraction of its price

So something that’s $10 only cost $1 to make and so it’s a $9 profit apply that to games and you can see why they don’t care

So the guy who buys it at higher or “regular” price is all they need 9 times over

[solar galleon]

you're grossly underestimating the cost of gamedev

[raven goblet]

Stonks

A game dev is barely $20k a year that’s not even $20 an hour in some states

[solar galleon]

games aren't cheap mass produced goods made with plastic

[raven goblet]

And knowing WB they definitely make sure to keep the salaries low

[raven goblet]

Lmao you don’t have plastic or tangible games anymore…. This is the digital era

You own nothing

[unreal tulip]

...

[solar galleon]

reductive take on the cost that goes into it. way more than developer salaries are the cost of investment for these ventures.

[raven goblet]

Reality is a stark place

[raven goblet]

You can look up the salaries

[solar galleon]

😮‍💨

completely missing the point. salaries of game devs aren't the sum total of game development costs

[raven goblet]

And again they keep in house teams meaning they can control their pay …. That’s how any company works

Salary benefits retirement etc

[unreal tulip]

if it took one single person to make a profit out of the work of dozens, they could have made the extra mile of making a product 2 people would buy and double up the profit.
but I guess you studied marketing in wonderland

[raven goblet]

Here’s the example again
If you sell a $2 game for $50 and 1 person buys it
Why sell it for $10 just for maybe 2-3 people to get it

Im literally telling you how they think lol

[unreal tulip]

that's like a lemonade stand economy

[solar galleon]

I'm not even that well versed in this stuff, but it seems you have an extremely cynical and oversimplified understanding of this

[raven goblet]

I think you’re getting it now

[solar galleon]

that was a criticism of your grasp on the concept, dude

[raven goblet]

Companies are going to continue to be the same the end

[unreal tulip]

I'm getting how weak your grasp on the matter is

[raven goblet]

Ummkay so you’re confused again

Well read over it if need be

[unreal tulip]

I've never been confused, at best I'm surprised you can say those things straight

[raven goblet]

None of these devs are going to change for the whims of the poor that’s the future

[solar galleon]

thank god for indie studios and publishers

[raven goblet]

What you can do as a gamer is be involved in development and give feedback and try to make games you like better on the surface

That’s all you can do

[raven goblet]

Until Microsoft gets greedy again

[solar galleon]

there's no shortage of games lacking these faults that you're bemoaning

do you not know what indie studio/publisher means?

[raven goblet]

Lol that’s why I said to be active and get involved

Because they’re not going to stop lol

[unreal tulip]

and most of them will keep on failing until they strike a balance between quality and pricing

[raven goblet]

💀

[solar galleon]

obviously he disagrees

[raven goblet]

That’s very optimistic

There’s too many stupid people in the juman gene pool for that to happen

[solar galleon]

your perspective on this stuff is tainted by AAA multiplayer games, man

[raven goblet]

In a perfect world yes it will but I know not to hope for such things

[raven goblet]

I don’t play any

I only started one

[solar galleon]

yet you're painting the industry as a whole as if their model is already the dominant force on the market?

[warm holly]

sb help with smash out 50 archiv i have 42 but now it stucks

[solar galleon]

odd

[raven goblet]

I presented 3 different models in 3 different contexts

The multiplayer model is the same across different games in the current market anything beyond idk what you mean

Maybe I confused you

No worries we will move on

[jovial dove]

Got myself The Harluin of Hate Icon from a daily chest. Nothing truly exciting, but it's something i didn't own previously.

[chilly thistle]

[lament temple]

Bro

Banana guard actually sucks so bad

Like when I dodge his attacks HIS ATTACKS RANGE IS HITTING ME FROM BEHIND TOO

AND WHEN HE’S HITTING ME IN MID AIR I LEGIT CANNOT DODGE

[outer moss]

don't try to attack right after dodging, it cancels out your dodge

[digital trench]

Hey hey gamers 🎮

[untold iron]

Is it me or is this one of the most imbalanced seasons ever...

[quiet lintel]

Ofc it is

[quiet lintel]

Hi

[digital trench]

🐰

but yea it's weirdly imbalanced

[quiet lintel]

I need fortnite to add velma on fortnite 💔 ill miss her so much when the game shuts down

[digital trench]

You will still get to see Velma, just in the offline version 🤷‍♂️

[worthy turret]

cause they no longer care

[digital trench]

yep, don't blame them at this point. If my workplace was shutting down I don't think I would be focus on the work, but instead where my next job is.

[unreal tulip]

too bad they had this attitude from the start

[worthy turret]

at this point i just throw the fight with certain match ups cause of how wildly un-fun they are

[digital trench]

gonna love that management 😒

[untold iron]

Y3ah I get the shutdown, but im speaking just comparative to other seasons (plus they recently added another patch so...). Been a lot more annoying stuff here than past ones.

[untold iron]

Exa...ctly, though I still keep fighting :').

[worthy turret]

also they musta messed with my boy a while ago he feels off

i refuse to sweaty and un fun matchup for no reward

mr smith

[digital trench]

ah okay, i replied to the wrong message lol

tbh i can't say I seen many smith players, but i am mostly in ffa

[worthy turret]

i am the only 1, people just play whatever is the current most broken cheese anyway

[digital trench]

everyone should go BG for ranks and see who will come out as grandmaster 😅

be like that Jet Lee movie "The One"

[unreal tulip]

this is a ban worthy suggestion

[unborn spindle]

Shouldve added ben 10

[quiet lintel]

That would be really boring 💔 I hope the game mods can get the game alive or something

Sadly only for pc 😭

[untold iron]

Good to see Velma girl agrees.

[quiet lintel]

Who is girl btw

[untold iron]

👀

[serene garnet]

tbh that would've had a lot of potential/options

[rustic forum]

Heya

Amm, i have a question

When the game closes, local mode will obviously be available.

But I wonder if all the cosmetics will be available or just the ones I buy on my account?

Because something that I always disliked was that they changed the training mode, I used it as a test locker room

[fleet yarrow]

Is the game still open

[rustic forum]

Yes

You have until may 30

[fleet yarrow]

Ahhh okay

[rustic forum]

I mean, I ask because I still have some gems that I never used.

And I would like to know if it is a good idea to spend it on those skins that I am missing or leave them as just another stat on my account.

[quiet lintel]

both ideas are good imo, but maybe you can lose your gleamium and not see it never again at your stats

[rustic forum]

Well

So I just have to spend on a Marceline skin, I only need one more to complete my collection.

[cinder compass]

@fleet topaz

@ivory pelican

[ivory pelican]

Huh

[cinder compass]

Bring it here

[ivory pelican]

I was summoned

[cinder compass]

You know for what

[ivory pelican]

Yes

@fleet topaz

[cinder compass]

@fleet topaz

@warm holly

[warm holly]

huh

[cinder compass]

Yk what to do

[warm holly]

ping hoisty

Alr

@fleet topaz

[fleet topaz]

What

[warm holly]

@cinder compass wants to talk to u I guess

[cinder compass]

You know what I want

[fleet topaz]

Can't we do this anywhere else

[warm holly]

idk

[cinder compass]

I would if you won’t be soft

[fleet topaz]

I can create a group

[cinder compass]

Be a good boy and do what I wanted

I will tell you anythin you want to

[strange fjord]

what

[wraith geyser]

There's a possibility of compiling it for Xbox series c=

The problem is, players would need to pay the developer mode for being able to play it

[quiet lintel]

omg really?

[quiet lintel]

😞👄😞 meeeh....

how much is that btw? I didnt knew it existed

[wraith geyser]

$19, it is used for playing emulators but it works with homebrew stuff, like fangames, so it is possible to port mvs infinite nwn

[quiet lintel]

ohh nice, its truee xbox has implemented that, at least is useful

[cinder compass]

[hard estuary]

DEAD GAMEEE

Lol

[raven goblet]

Prepare to be banished

Right next to mb

Always running when he sees me like I’m not here all the time

[merry hill]

#savemultiversus

Sup

[slim fern]

hell yea brother save mulitversus

[merry hill]

How have you been bro

[slim fern]

big vibin how about you big dawg

[visual trail]

bro you be running from my sets daily

sybau goofy ahh

[grim scaffold]

Hey so what happens when you fully max out a rift

like if I try it again will I get a default thing or just Nothing

[merry hill]

Work, gaming ect😭

[raven goblet]

Nothing

[ornate hornet]

Anyone can help me with the trophy party animal? I think I'm very close to get the trophy, does anyone know a quick way to get it?

[worldly lichen]

1 level away from completing the battle pass

[grim scaffold]

I’m a couple away I’m just Grinding at Arena at this point

Almost at 57

In my defense I slept thru like half the finale season lol

also I still have the Season 5 rifts to do for EXP, I wanna do it with someone so I can get the final trophy to platinum this game

Also I’m close to being able to unlock every fighter

[grim scaffold]

I gotta say

When Rifts are depleted and there’s no weekly missions. EXP grind SUCKS just so bad

[wary quiver]

You get way more xp from grinding ranked. I've been done with the BP and I don't grind arena or rifts

Since last week or so I've been done with it

You also get Xp for the arena event from ranked, without actually having to play arena games

[grim scaffold]

Ah, I don’t play Ranked, how much EXP does it give? I’m not super good so I’m worried I’ll just get a massive loss streak

Also already did the Arena event for the Rick skin, got that one day 1

I ask bc I know even if I lose Arena completely I get 160 EXP

And I tend to place in the Top 4 at least so I get around 300-320 per Arena thing

Only issue is the servers take like 5 full minutes to put me in an Arena game

[raven goblet]

<@&882349260409032746>

[strange fjord]

?

[cyan abyss]

this server is so dead now man

i miss old mvs so much bro

its the only game in the world that i would die for

why did you guys change it man

it was perfect the way it was

💔 💔

[jaunty charm]

idk i even miss season 2&3 of relaunch

[raven goblet]

Minding your business is free

[raven goblet]

You’d die for monopoly and uno before anything don’t lie 😏

[cyan abyss]

Alr bro we all know im goated at that too

[raven goblet]

🤣 mhmm it’s all fun and games until you have to auction off the railroads

Survival of the fittest

[bold brook]

🍿

[tawny meteor]

what is the 3rd item in the horror rift besides the WB Tower Banner & the Skin?

anyone know by chance?

it doesn’t show it anymore like it used to. iirc there’s usually 3 cosmetic items. not including Prestige points or Battle Pass XP.

[tawny meteor]

huh? dude is speed running getting banned in MVS official discord lol. dyk what the reward is fr or not? i just wanted to know what it is man. not start a race riot over here.

[dreamy stag]

😭💀

[mild charm]

[chilly oyster]

just got a snapchat memory from a year ago today it was most damage ive done in a mtch

how sad

in less than a year became a worthless flex

sent them money too for a skin figured it was nice for a free game

gone months later

[tawny meteor]

i understand man. i supported from the beginning as well. even got multiple founder’s bundles or whatever they were called. i was just trying to finish up my free battle pass so i can have some cool cosmetics in offline mode since they won’t unlock everything free in line w all the rest of their scummy decisions. believe me man i feel your pain. @grave sable

i don’t think saying a bunch of racist stuff is helping your point at all either tbf , but wth do i know lol. do you i guess.

[bold brook]

they should've made everything free when the game shuts down. they did it in beta but now...

what's even the point?

[tawny meteor]

the beta being better than the full release? say it ain’t so lol.

the reason this game failed can be simplified to one single thing. today , in season 5 of you leave the end match screen & somebody toasts you , you can not toast them back.

a simple feature that was in beta. 5 season later , is still not in the full release. super oversimplified version of why it failed, but that is essentially the reason the game died. that & their greed.

the fact that beta felt like the way the game should be & today it is still objectively worse than the beta & how much greed was in every ounce of it. yeah… you can see how it all went so wrong lol.

[strange fjord]

💀 💀

bro

what the hell be going on in this server

[bold brook]

People crash out over the Magic Dog vs Serial Killer game being dead for real on May 30th

[strange fjord]

which is so weird to me, I never thought I'd see a crash out like that in here, especially about the game getting shutdown

hard r for what 😭

[bold brook]

Alternatively they're in the hivemind of racism = funny (it's not at all) along with thinking the server is mod free

standard troll, don't put fuel in the fire because it'll get worse

[primal isle]

Hey guys me and my friend are having an argument on whether the beta/the game overall was more team oriented vs the idea that it was more 1v1 based

[copper valley]

guys i gotta question can yall give me yalls top 3 reasons yall quit multiverses

[mild charm]

2s feels much more balanced because the broken junk is harder to pull off amidst the chaos. Some characters are still better than others, but everyone at least has a fighting chance

1s often devolves into who can cheese the other first. Or a camp fest

[raven goblet]

@ionic iris well well ….look what the cat dragged in …..

[raven goblet]

Kinda dumb argument and well you’re both wrong

In the beta both 1s and 2s existed and they said this was a team game but most of the developing went to both 1s and 2s gameplay

[ionic iris]

uhh what

[raven goblet]

I saw you run away don’t play

Idk why I just got a banner I already have from s3 as a daily reward

[ionic iris]

I dont like running

[raven goblet]

But you do

[slim fern]

1v1 for dominance

[ionic iris]

nah

[raven goblet]

You always running

Gold medalist

[ionic iris]

nope

[ionic iris]

yep

[raven goblet]

Bro can’t even make up his mind

[raven goblet]

I already know

[spark hill]

...

[rapid belfry]

yall ass at this game n still play it knowin its gonna end soon

[thick comet]

Hi Izaiah

[rapid belfry]

hello angel isaiah salazar

[thick comet]

How are you Izaiah Devon Isaac wright

[rapid belfry]

die

[paper hinge]

The only way they can make Lola peak is if they added the Looney Tunes Show version as a skin

[desert zenith]

@delicate pollen yooooo ggs man

your WW is so clean

[delicate pollen]

Ggs bro, and thanks your Reindog had me sweating 😅🙏🏼

[fallen coyote]

headpats

[scarlet crater]

Bro I cant believe this game is dead it had so much potential after seeing the leaked characters

[fallen coyote]

Que pasoooooo

[scarlet crater]

Yeah and its all because of a greedy creator lol

[quiet lintel]

Lmao in Spanish 😭 well im not that well, Im going thru hard times with the college

[vivid salmon]

buff taz

[rapid belfry]

buff marceline

[lapis briar]

Hey when is Multiversus 2 coming out lol?

[light badge]

We need to nerf him wdym?

[vivid salmon]

april of next year

[unreal tulip]

who knows when WB games will rise up from the ashes

[rapid belfry]

never

[delicate kelp]

Fr

[cloud bloom]

Today

[stark jetty]

<@&882349260409032746>

[crystal furnace]

they should just give everyone in the server maxed out gleamium before may, there's literally nothing to lose

[unreal tulip]

I guess they had to give some value to unspendable founder tickets

[sturdy kite]

Cosmic still pinging mods. Love to see it🙏🙏

[wary quiver]

What's the highest kills anyone's gotten in arena

[wispy bramble]

game is dead in a month rip

[worldly lichen]

Completed the battle pass today yeahhh

[undone torrent]

Anyone know why mvs is suddenly lagging? I’m on pc

[vagrant thunder]

https://i.imgur.com/HEGo4hH.gif

@unreal tulip made this for me btw.

[unreal tulip]

wasn't expecting a shout out like that

but they must be aware of their poor choices

the devs of their poor pick choices and the mains of their poor life choices

[grave umbra]

Banana guard got murdered 😱

[cinder cedar]

yessssss

[stark jetty]

This will save MVS

[unreal tulip]

people with these kind of ideas didn't deserve to succeed

[slim fern]

at least like 20 i feel like those can really drag on tho

[lethal timber]

The day draws near…

[unreal tulip]

Usually after the night

[rain tapir]

[unreal tulip]

[rain tapir]

[heady bobcat]

I can't wait for Season 7!

[mild charm]

Please add Instant Martian as a fighter in season 7 🥶 🙏
#InstantMartian4MVS

[quiet lintel]

WHAT IS THIIIS? I LOVE THIS

[quiet lintel]

[quiet lintel]

Omg so talented I could never

[crystal orchid]

Anyone wanna play 2v2 casual or rank

[quiet lintel]

who pinged me?

[rain tapir]

[quiet lintel]

what

[rain tapir]

[left oasis]

✌🏿😂

[left oasis]

YES

[clear obsidian]

this game is so easy

[unreal tulip]

😊

[quiet lintel]

😭 {

[quiet lintel]

👏🥹

[clear obsidian]

morty feels like shid buff morty

[digital trench]

Good day gamers 🎮

[celest herald]

🤝

[somber garden]

why'd they take away the ability to toast after leaving the lobby. Does WB think regression is a good strategy?

[unreal tulip]

I don't think they had a good strategy, or actually any strategy to begin with

[bold pine]

Is this game going to be playable offline after the shut down? I thought I saw something about that

[somber garden]

I truly hope so, can see myself coming back to it for local play for sure

[raven goblet]

For once she’s done something right and actually killed the right person

• Charles Lee Ray/Doll Gang Approved

[somber garden]

The way you guys treat this chat as some social club is perplexing. Talk about the game, or play the game.

Always been weird in here, no wonder community couldnt help the game

[raven goblet]

For the next one add sound and make the sound effect the Megan “Ah” 👅

[quiet lintel]

no thankies

[quiet lintel]

so you said we players were never supporting the game they played?

[raven goblet]

Don’t feed Grievers

Unless it’s your cookies ….

https://tenor.com/view/when-a-client-calls-you-ugly-for-not-responding-fast-laugh-nails-nailtech-gif-15904309

It’s a great day 🤣

[wary quiver]

in a single game? i got 7 kills by myself in one arena game earlier lol was kinda hype

[somber garden]

Only the tumblr-esque people in this chat who spend all day talking about nonsense to fill a social void instead of discussing game mechanics

[bold brook]

Auto Teching should never be added to the game

[vagrant thunder]

He was going to put Nubia there, but I talked him out of it.

[vagrant thunder]

Ikr? Isn't it the best gif?

[raven goblet]

Not in this server lol

[bold brook]

compared to the Banana, she's actually a character instead of a NPC

[quiet lintel]

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP RN

[somber garden]

fk i join. banana with boobs makes me uncomfortable

[raven goblet]

The cookie arc is definitely top 10

[vagrant thunder]

It's why I accepted the banana over Nubia lol.

[raven goblet]

Top 2 easily

[quiet lintel]

sorry but we are already done with talking about the game in general, like, now this general chat is for everything in general LOL, this is off-topic channel part 2, this envolved like this bc it has ever been like this since the first online servers shutdown of MVS during 2023 ;w;

not an OG but that´s a fact

[raven goblet]

Get Bugs to do the Duck Season to Lebron

And Batman to slap shaggy in the Robin meme

[unreal tulip]

well, there is actually another gif...

[quiet lintel]

youre going to turn me into a cookie run character ATP

[bold brook]

like Nubia is Byleth but without any recent media to back her inclusion while Banana Guard is Piranha Plant without the reason it was funny

[quiet lintel]

now THIS is what the game needed

[raven goblet]

😏

[raven goblet]

I never miss

[bold brook]

now make Joker pay his taxes

[raven goblet]

Idk if that even possible

[bold brook]

well as they say can't wait for anybody, do it yourself

[quiet lintel]

Uhmmm

[quiet lintel]

🤪

[raven goblet]

It’s a Megan Friday

“That’s my trash you the maid so you bagged him Ah👅”

[vagrant thunder]

Byleth was a wasted slot.

[raven goblet]

Yes

Sakurai: “I liked the game I had fun and I thought it was good so I added them”

This is why no single person should be the deciding factor in who gets in any game

[bold brook]

I have a feeling this is how a some fighters were added to MVS

[vagrant thunder]

"one more fire emblem character couldn't hurt."

[raven goblet]

Literally yes lmao where have you been he said this is why we have so many AT characters

[vagrant thunder]

They should just do polls.

[raven goblet]

👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

[somber garden]

Who thinks mages without cd or range drawbacks were also a bad idea

[raven goblet]

I’ve said this so many times but nobody ever listens to me and weeks later everyone always comes back and says EXACTLY what I’ve said all along

Sigh

[bold brook]

I feel like Banana Guard could be PB or Ice King.

honestly Bmo and Lumpy Space Princess could be a better joke character than Banana

[raven goblet]

No jokes at all

[vagrant thunder]

I never knew why they didn't do that in the first place. Especially since half the complaints of these games are "They don't listen to the community."

[raven goblet]

We don’t need joke characters when we have the flipping Joker on deck

[bold brook]

Looney Tunes got robbed.

what we have is fine but it is lacking some heavy hitters

[raven goblet]

Well the toxic AT community glazed and rode the series so hard in beta devs assumed it’s what everyone wanted so it’s not all their fault

I will never forget how many people tweeted for Midceline and Ice King

Even during shutdown she was all they talked about

[vagrant thunder]

Is banana guard even a mainline character in that show? He looks like a side character.

[somber garden]

Characters werent the problem, it was the annoying kits

[raven goblet]

I don’t watch that trash

But apparently not

[vagrant thunder]

I never watched it either, so idk.

[somber garden]

but youre right, when ranked opened up all the top ranks tried giving suggestions but chat only talked about characters they wanted smh

[raven goblet]

Finn and Jake are the only relevant characters everyone else is pretty much side characters

[bold brook]

Banana Guard is technically a side character. they're like the Minions but not seen 24/7.

more of, they're PB's guards.

[raven goblet]

You need to say the full name we don’t watch that show PB could mean peanut butter to us

[vagrant thunder]

I thought the bubblegum girl and Marceline were main characters too.

[vagrant thunder]

More weird why he was selected. But I never complained anyways.

[raven goblet]

No they had filler episodes but the sun of the show is finn and Jake going on adventures

[bold brook]

Finn & Jake should be the only Adventure Time reps if they didn't get 2 extra ones.

like how we only got Steven and Garnet

[raven goblet]

Basically Marceline and Bubblegum are like Ms Puff and Plankton in SpongeBob

Not the main story but there more than background characters

[raven goblet]

No Ifs … period

[bold brook]

Multiversus probably wanted to do a bare minium for 2-4 characters per franchise as DC only had the big 3 + Harley, Rick & Morty, Bugs & Taz, ect

[raven goblet]

DC has 14 off the bat

They didn’t have a set parameter for limits because from the beginning they said “anybody can get in and there’s no limit”

[bold brook]

that alone caused many "unrealistic" character requests from the line alone ngl

[raven goblet]

Things got iffy when some undeserving people got in before more realistic people

[somber garden]

the characters are avatars for movesets, idc if they were all jokes lol

[raven goblet]

It was ok tho

[unreal tulip]

what they have in common was a leftover model from the beta

[somber garden]

If all characters came from adventure time, would anything change if the movesets stayed the saame

[raven goblet]

The suggestions were fine we went astray when they chose the order

[raven goblet]

?? What you mean

[raven goblet]

Lol

[bold brook]

I still don't know why they made a skin into a full fledged fighter as it's like they made Cake a different fighter from Jake because of the Finnona & Cake show

[raven goblet]

When you’re the director you can make choices like that

[bold brook]

why I'm not surprised many questionable choices led to the game's downfall

[raven goblet]

Well according to chat it’s because it was “too expensive and WB and Disney and Fortnite and Rivals and people don’t know how to play and Smash”

I always find the crying comical in how baseless they can be lol

[somber garden]

You guys arguing about the characters is why they never listened to actual feedback. The characters don't matter, its the movesets and balancing the playstyles between bruisers/mages/assassins. Thats part of what hurt player retention, they nailed the coffin with lackluster updates in general, and regression on UI since beta. The company itself is not a driven company, they're a "keep everyone happy" company, and WB is a terrible studio for decision making and IP hoarding, probably had to go through red tape for every skin

[raven goblet]

It’s like people reach for whatever is the first thing the see as the reason

Lmao to send that right after what I said is peak comedy

[bold brook]

my reasons are

Greed

Poor Decision Making

And a small team

[raven goblet]

All I can say is
Oh well

[somber garden]

yep the guy who spends all his time in this chat talking nonsense knows whats baseless and what's not lol comedy

[raven goblet]

Mhmm

[somber garden]

how small is the team

[raven goblet]

Lol gotta have your facts to have an opinion

[bold brook]

🤷

PFG is a indie studio that got massive funds by WB

[raven goblet]

It’s less than 10k

[bold brook]

That is a decently sized team then

[raven goblet]

In the credits a lot of names are repeated so it’s probably less than 2000

[raven goblet]

Not for a modern game

[bold brook]

okay not decently sized

[raven goblet]

Remember there are several departments in a studio so that number includes all of the departments

Even the interns the security and all the other non gaming jobs

[bold brook]

geeze it's lucky MVS even became a thing because WB saw dollar signs in their eyes

[raven goblet]

They were never in it for the money

“It was for the fans”

[bold brook]

that eventually turned into "for the fan's money" when the game was a success

[raven goblet]

It was never a success

[somber garden]

This kids so opinionated its crazy

[raven goblet]

Lol

The prices didn’t actually change from beta to launch

Content size did

Idk why they tried to push deadlines

[bold brook]

didn't prices for characters with Gelimium increased from like 500 to 1,000 from beta to release ?

[raven goblet]

But again that’s the directors choice

[raven goblet]

No they didn’t

They removed the option to buy gleam in small amounts

It was 450

[somber garden]

Anyone remember when they removed features after the beta and UI refresh? Majesty you know everything obv

[raven goblet]

So it went from 6 options to 4

[bold brook]

everybody agrees that beta UI is way better than full release's

[somber garden]

So you call something opinionated and then reiterate the same opinion about it being director choice (red tape duuuur)

[raven goblet]

It was easier to see everything imo AND you could change your profile a lot more

[somber garden]

It was so much more intuitive

[bold brook]

remember how there was a support role before all but Steven became a mage?

[digital trench]

Anyone down to ffa custom?

[unreal tulip]

beats me, maybe back in the beta they didn't think they'd be so slipping out of schedule to need these shortcuts
shortcuts that were very damaging and defeated their purpose

[raven goblet]

Bruh

[raven goblet]

Lel

[raven goblet]

Are you trying to do the alternate game modes or just ffa because there’s a mode for that

[somber garden]

They really wanted to make those roles work. Whats the official unopinionated reason for removing the support role Majesty?

[bold brook]

I'm bored anyways so I could join in

[raven goblet]

It’s a trap

Damn we Finna lose Singer

[digital trench]

Wacky weekend mods

[raven goblet]

Do Splat and 1 Hit on the original Court

[bold brook]

what's the worse that can happen?

[raven goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/tedlasso-yikes-gif-27201348

[mental barn]

Hey guys
I‘m very new to multiversus and i very love to play raven. Is there any way to unlock some characters way faster instead of buying them?

[raven goblet]

🤣🤣💀

[mental barn]

And i got the „way to fighter“ thing but it takes far longer to get her

[raven goblet]

Wait for May 30 she unlocks free

[somber garden]

fighter road, the too little too late best addition they've added

[bold brook]

doing missions can give you fighter road XP

[somber garden]

loool

[mental barn]

Okayy

[raven goblet]

Playing the game gives you xp 🙃

[mental barn]

Thanks 🙂

[bold brook]

the feeling where you want to hop on the game is when my internet starts to not work

[digital trench]

Did you wanna join our little wacky weekend mod games?

[pearl whale]

are you actually tryna play or just fu*king with my homie

[raven goblet]

Not right now I’m on late nights

[digital trench]

No worries

[raven goblet]

Play with her? No lol

[bold brook]

I'll update when my internet decides to work

[raven goblet]

She got her answer tho

[raven goblet]

Who you got lol

[bold brook]

Cox

[raven goblet]

I’m not laughing because you have them I’m laughing at the name

Lol

Beat them with a stick

[somber garden]

hmmm

[bold brook]

a good old reset could do the trick

[normal fulcrum]

Some of the events offer "fight pass xp" which should help you skip through some tiers fast but idk how many you need to get through to get to raven

Unlocked characters I think still give missions which give you more fighter xp for completing them. I don't think there is any special/cheese way to grind that works as I am pretty sure the amounts are hard locked like 150 xp for winning a game. Your best shot is finding some characters you enjoy other than her and play them while not watching the xp bar after every game and completing challenges

[bold brook]

and internet is good 🙂

[rapid mountain]

Can someone join my brother with Down syndrome discord sever because he is sad no one is joining I will give you an exclusive tag if you join

[tulip current]

Is it true multiversus is being shut down in may?

[normal fulcrum]

Yessir

End of may to be exact

[tulip current]

dang:( such a nice game

[raven goblet]

Is this your way of saying you’re going to throw it back

I throw it back like it’s Thursday I got cake it’s lit like it’s my birthday

[noble wyvern]

yeah too bad they fumbled and ruined it

at least we got adventure time in fortnite now

[raven goblet]

☕

[remote wadi]

Anyone of the player Amalgamate? A jack with a buttercup pfp. Their discord?

[quiet lintel]

Wait, NO 😭 its a cute stare

Our dear wildcard used it a lot

[strange fjord]

what's good with y'all

[unreal tulip]

well, the good news is banana got murdered: #general message

[strange fjord]

🙏🏾

I'm glad he's dead, Cicala doing great things for mvs

[unreal tulip]

Made her beat it while it's down because I refused to actually animate it.
Otherwise... I would have made it suffer more : )

[quiet lintel]

hii Im good Im so happy im playing MVS again omggg I love velma

and how are yaaaaaaaaaaa

[unreal tulip]

I'm fine, thanks 😊

[quiet lintel]

good to heaar

🩷

[unreal tulip]

I'd better go to sleep now, I have to gif tomorrow : )

[quiet lintel]

gif? good night and sleep well and comfy

🌜

[strange fjord]

rather not say but I'm glad you're happy and having fun

[quiet lintel]

nooo please I hope youre ok :(( and tysm

[unreal tulip]

I wouldn't like to be in your shoes 👠👠

[quiet lintel]

omg if these shoes are heels I would love to

[unreal tulip]

I'm on a highway to heels 🎶

[quiet lintel]

🤪

[raven goblet]

Suck it and look in his eyes then the day leave him on read

That’s the #1 Rule

[quiet lintel]

what song is this

[quiet lintel]

[raven goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/megan-the-stallion-stallion-freak-big-ole-freak-gif-13651049

My love is a drug and he need it

[unreal tulip]

Didn't know @vagrant thunder was a stallion.
Good for him, I guess ; )

[raven goblet]

Yessir

Although he gets Tiffany to ghostwrite for him

[unreal tulip]

Well, my time is up. See ya! 💤

[mental raft]

what

[quiet lintel]

ooohh megan thee stallion, I didnt knew you were a listener of her songs

[raven goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/willowkill-megan-thee-stallion-willowkill-megan-thee-stallion-megan-thee-stallion-looking-gif-6229646052906259151

It’s like you’ve never been in chat

Or maybe you’re thinking of someone else

[quiet lintel]

lol sorry 😭

[quiet lintel]

wdym

[fallen coyote]

Ari

[quiet lintel]

yes??

[fallen coyote]

Hi :3

[raven goblet]

You probably mistaking me for someone else

[raven goblet]

You must dance for 2 minutes as punishment

[maiden swan]

have they given everything for free yet

[vale parrot]

I want Fred Flintstone

[quiet lintel]

hiya how are you

[quiet lintel]

No im not owo dw

[quiet lintel]

30 toasts for 50 gleamium is a crazy steal

[fallen coyote]

I'm uhhh
||Pretty good||

I wanna play REPO but I have work in the morning

[quiet lintel]

good to hear!

[quiet lintel]

🥹 I hope you can play soon! gl at work

[fallen coyote]

I'm sitting in my car
It's raining
I just got home I wanna go inside :<

[quiet lintel]

we have a lot of rain here aswell unu

[fallen coyote]

You should dance for 2 more minutes to motivate me

Extra punishment

[quiet lintel]

if dancing its a punishment idk what getting beated is then?

[fallen coyote]

As per Pipo
||Pleasure||

[quiet lintel]

wdym

[strange fjord]

?

did I come in at a bad time or sumn 😭

[fallen coyote]

Mb never had bad timing

[fallen coyote]

Imma go inside instead of answering

[strange fjord]

theres times I do, shocking I know

and now is one of them.