general

[sick ocean]

yes it does, faster and slower can be the difference between combo and kill confirm, or space taking or poking tool, small differences can be extremely relevant

[hybrid frost]

Damn

[sick ocean]

also wdym high kb means cheese? im confused by that

[deep crescent]

They really need to take away PPGs aerial dash attack perk again, this time for good

[raven goblet]

Once more in no context did I say speed up projectiles you can kill confirm on slow projectiles and delayed hits just as easy as faster ones

As a Harley player you should know this considering both of Harley’s bomb are slower projectiles

[dapper oar]

Other jabs are faster with more range. It's short so often you have to dodge in to touch anyone. If you trade you'll more often than not lose.

[raven goblet]

It’s like you want Rick to sit on the side of the screen spamming you or something

Or Lebron or Reindog

[sick ocean]

u said medium speed medium kb, these are clearly changes in functionality

[raven goblet]

And in context to the game there are already people in that bracket
The outliers are the only ones who would be affected

[gentle crystal]

B U F F G A R N E T N O W

[sick ocean]

yeah sure his jab is slow, but its the same speed as harley jab, and with more effective range, and boi hv i seen ppl complain abt harley jab, plus it has armor break so its inherently safer on shield(yes, this is a thing for some reason)

[raven goblet]

Medium speed ≠ super slow

[dapper oar]

...... Um. Wut

[sick ocean]

yeah, why does every1 need to be? bugs pie hving changes in speed makes it hv more options, marvin jab 3 bounces relatively slow, all of these things are incredible for diversity, and i dont think it should be uniform

[rancid jackal]

There’s benefits to both slow and fast projectiles

[raven goblet]

You missed everything and lost the whole point I was saying it appears

FYI we were talking about balancing

[dapper oar]

Yes, I was complaining about the speed of bugs projectiles just, spawning the pie in advance.

[sick ocean]

u said "Every projectile should be equal no matter the size or hitbox make them all medium speed with medium knockback so it’s not a spam fest or snipers nest" this implies uniform projectiles to me

[dapper oar]

Personally I think pie should be neutral special.

He should just have it. And a proper down attack

[sick ocean]

i think safe dtilt is way weirder than pie dtilt

[dapper oar]

Safe Arial down special since the air dive is pretty useless.

Tap for target hold to paint.

[raven goblet]

it’s a direct statement nothing more nothing less

If everything is same speed it’s not a spam fest if everything is same knockback it’s not a sniper nest it’s that simple

[sick ocean]

oh, interesting ngl

[worn ferry]

I'm so mad. I'm gonna go listen to vocaloid music so I won't be so mad anymore

[primal jay]

Should’ve kept the joker pic

[hybrid frost]

Didn’t won’t to

[raven goblet]

When the game is uniform you don’t have jankiness

[sick ocean]

idk how that could be true, there are more aspects to making smth a spamfest, and slower projectiles tend to follow that curve, so sure it could be medium speed, but it wouldnt rlly help it feels

[primal jay]

Bet

[sick ocean]

u also dont hv uniqueness, and basically get brawlhalla

[ionic swan]

Brawhalla is unique hahaha

[rancid jackal]

Brawlhalla is super unique

[sick ocean]

thats what i said it wasnt, chars are essentially reskins with different supers

[rancid jackal]

Even tho Brawlhalla has somewhat shared move sets you still see more creative combos than the 2 bnbs that everyone uses on their mains in mvs

[raven goblet]

Smith doesn’t have fast projectiles he’s just fast movement

Realistically he only has 3 projectiles the running agent and the charge gun and his dash

[primal jay]

Meh his kinda right, it was the one that popularized dodging for platform fighting games

[raven goblet]

The uniqueness comes from utility and versatility not speed and knockback

[low niche]

I forgot about this game tbh

[sick ocean]

but he was designed more anti-projectile, and that smth is for somthing, not smith

[raven goblet]

Smith is not in this equation at all he does not qualify as a projectile player

[primal jay]

Hi and Welcome back

[ionic swan]

BRawlhalla really lame tho I caaant

[sick ocean]

yes, and speed and kb are things that are related to it, if harley ss glove was too fast then follow ups would not be possible, if it was too fast the same

[sick ocean]

well, yeah, the "smth" is an abbreviation of something

[rancid jackal]

Brawlhalla has a more active playerbase and better comp scene than mvs, will absolutely outlive mvs even tho it’s about 8 years mvs’ senior

[dusk trench]

phone ranked 2s

[fallen coyote]

Should I jump onto Ranked

[raven goblet]

They’re not and again Harley is already medium speed and knockback so that’s a moot example

[dusk trench]

anyone ranked 2s? plat 5 taz i play casually

[sick ocean]

yeah, i mean differences in speed and kb are important, and uniformity would be a bad thing, cz it would just cause everything to feel the same

[raven goblet]

No

[fallen coyote]

Okay

[primal jay]

Toke years of work for brawlhalla to be where it’s at, but hey it payed off

[sick ocean]

me hitting a glove is nothing like a marvin hitting an utilt

[ionic swan]

Gotta Assert my dominance on players as Jason tonight

[sick ocean]

[fallen coyote]

Hell yeah Jason player

I'll do 1 ranked match as Jason

[rancid jackal]

It’s just not a good idea for mvs regardless since moveset are meant to be unique and that would completely throw off the balance

[ionic swan]

Kill someone from 0 with up air reads seems like the logical thing to be doing

[sick ocean]

well, yes that is indeed my standing with this

[raven goblet]

It’s sounding like you rely 100% on spamming projectiles
If you can’t diversify your moves that’s on you but projectiles should be utilities period

Combo extenders and safe approach options and situational kill options NOT spammable moves that can’t be punished and reward you for such practices
THIS is why uniformity is important it eliminates those aspects entirely

[ionic swan]

WW players force me to play like Puma, its so lame but it works

[rancid jackal]

Projectiles are a pretty dumb thing to argue about ngl there’s benefits to different projectile properties

[hybrid frost]

Uh oh

[raven goblet]

She’s allergic to change i guess idk

[rancid jackal]

Projectiles can be slow and be good, they also can be fast and be good, slower projectiles give more stage control like bugs safe and rocket, fast projectiles jokers wild is fast, therefore hard to react to, taking away unique projectile properties is just dumb as it removes any strategy to that specific tool to your chars movekit

[sick ocean]

saying that is very just... nonsensical to me, bc like, saying i rely on spamming projectiles bc i like things being unique feels weird, also, if u want things to be combo extenders safe approaches or situational kill options, wouldnt u been in favor of unique gameplay?

[ionic swan]

Harley Bombs a thing..

[sick ocean]

isnt arguing for different things being more in favor of change?

[raven goblet]

Bugs is already slow enough therefore wouldn’t be affected as I mentioned

Also I literally said this

[raven goblet]

I said this too….

[ionic swan]

Bugs nerf was crazy lol

[sick ocean]

wdym? yeah it is a combo extender and kill option, and therefore it is unique

[ionic swan]

Batbomb is also a thing

Stripes hitscan is also a thing

[sick ocean]

it is a pressure tool, bc its a status effect

[sick ocean]

we cant use these, they're status effects @-@

[rancid jackal]

Projectiles aren’t even a universal mechanic some chars don’t have them at all so what would be the point of making them uniform

[worn ferry]

jake so fun to play why they nerf him and not shaggy

[raven goblet]

Being contrarian is synonymous with trolling
If anything you’ve just been trying to keep the status quo based on your messages so that’s a no

[ionic swan]

You know why..

[hybrid frost]

Ironically you died in your mechanical uniform

[rancid jackal]

Infinite timelines means infinite android 19s

[sick ocean]

im not being a contrarian? im just saying my opinions, if they coincide with your average contrarian, its got nothing to do with me
also, i didnt ever mention status quo, i just dont want projectiles to be linear

[ionic swan]

Harley up Bat, her bomb explodes while ur near blast zone, free stock

Seems easy enough to me

[raven goblet]

No? Ok where are your changes that you suggested then

[hybrid frost]

That’s gonna receive the same “ infinite “ treatment ,

Big Bang . . You get the rest etc

[raven goblet]

Didn’t think so

[sick ocean]

i didnt suggest any bc i hv no reason to

[ionic swan]

Changes that benefit the pros and the characters they use

[raven goblet]

Contrarian aka trolling or arguing for no reason

[worn ferry]

anyone here a trollhunters fan

[rancid jackal]

Infinite timelines means infinite possibilities means infinite times where I actually whooped vegetas ass

[fallen coyote]

Just Double-Dunked a Raven

[hybrid frost]

I had no idea androids can dream

[raven goblet]

Well that’s normal for this chat

[sick ocean]

im neither trolling nor arguing recklessly, i just want to say things, and therefore i am, however, going as far as saying that me not giving any change ideas for projectiles, makes me want to keep the status quo and am therefore a contrarian feels like a stretch

[fallen coyote]

You know what's not normal? Appreciating the mods enough 😦

[raven goblet]

Routine is the better choice of words

[ionic swan]

Let me bring up an issue with a character.

Their response: Yea but what about this character???

[raven goblet]

K

[fallen coyote]

True

[hybrid frost]

Bro hit her with the “ K “ bro gotta be drained

[sick ocean]

am i being accused of being for the pros against the casuals?

[raven goblet]

Or “no let’s keep the game flawed and busted and not welcome positive change and fresh ideas”

[ionic swan]

I didnt call you out, I said something that happens. Unless you yourself are saying you are.

[wraith geyser]

Hewwo everypony nwn! 💕 🩷 💗 🩷 💕

[ionic swan]

[sick ocean]

i did ask tho, but no im not, i just like unique characters

[raven goblet]

Cinderella Cinderella

[wraith geyser]

There are news bout season 5 =000000000000=? Im excited =>

[ionic swan]

Reworking a character doesnt make them less unique unless you actually remove their kits

We are discussing problematic Hitboxs I believe not kits though.

When I brought up harleys bomb I never said it was broken, I meant its good

[sick ocean]

wasnt the point, they wanted projectiles to move at the same speed and do the same kb, and i dislike that sense of uniformity

[fallen coyote]

Insane strat

[ionic swan]

Projectiles move alittle fast in this game

[sick ocean]

it is broken tho, but its also a non conventional projectile, meaning its alr unique

[fallen coyote]

The pie should have a set speed

[ionic swan]

Considering projectiles are some of the most oppressive things in a game built for 2s

[sick ocean]

which ones? cz i feel like most are fine in that department, im never quite caught off guard when one hits me

[raven goblet]

Not reading paragraphs that are going no where

[rancid jackal]

That would just never ever work unless you turn everyone’s projectile into shaggys sandwich, but then again what about Jake, Jason, Sam jack, Superman who don’t have projectiles in their movesets

[ionic swan]

Black adams projectiles that you cant do anything about

Rick’s meeseeks

They are actually pretty fast

[raven goblet]

His gun too

[sick ocean]

dtilt has delay, ds isnt rlly fast, side special is fast at spawning only, rick meseeks does move slowly, at least to me ofc

[ionic swan]

Covers the whole map also

[wraith geyser]

did season 5 will drop tomorrow =0?

[fallen coyote]

For his neutral special, he wields a gun

[ionic swan]

Tuesday but maybe news soon

[celest herald]

No

[raven goblet]

We’d be here all day and night if we listed busted projectiles but noooo let’s not change anything

[sick ocean]

:0

[ionic swan]

Bug’s safe Hole loop

[wraith geyser]

Great, I have time to get to master nwn

[fallen coyote]

No one's hole is safe

[ionic swan]

Not in this game

[fallen coyote]

Lmaooo

[sick ocean]

again, my standing is that they shouldnt all be the same in speed and knockback, not that no changes are required

[raven goblet]

You can’t have a good understanding on things if you don’t play a variety of characters and see how things are

[ionic swan]

Tom and Jerry being able to toss 4 or 5 objects at you and destroy your shield stamina

[fallen coyote]

Me who plays tanks: 🤐

[ionic swan]

The tennis balls are insane

[raven goblet]

In like .2 seconds

[rancid jackal]

If you want certain projectiles nerfed just say that but don’t say you want them universally reworked across the board it’s just not gonna happen

[ionic swan]

Jerryshot one of the best projectiles youll see in any fighter game

[fallen coyote]

Just shield it

[teal nest]

Lock in

[ionic swan]

Mhm Yes

[raven goblet]

If you start from where this started you’ll have the correct context

[ionic swan]

Yes Lock in

[sick ocean]

mentioned tnj and potus literally spawns in

[solemn nacelle]

DEAD GAME LMAO

[ionic swan]

I will Beat someone and still be like; Yea that character is cancer

[rancid jackal]

Bro who is the 26 president lol

[solemn nacelle]

DEAD GAME I TOLD YALL THIS GAME WAS GONNA DIE

[teal nest]

can we start muting ppl who say dead game, I'm highkey getting tired of it

[raven goblet]

Lol Samus’ everywhere are smiling proud

[solemn nacelle]

Change your to “do not bother it is fertile”

[sick ocean]

omg, yes yes, my apologies

[rancid jackal]

It’s not happening

[ionic swan]

Oh please lol

[fallen coyote]

Spawn in Pootus from TF2

[sick ocean]

ah... yes... i totally get this reference

[ionic swan]

Its easy to have pros spawn in if you mention their main

[sick ocean]

jason isnt top 1

[fallen coyote]

[sick ocean]

pumba isnt here, this is a scam

[ionic swan]

Ur right BananaGuard clearly is

[sick ocean]

who mains bg????

[real rampart]

Banana guard is OP

[ionic swan]

One of the best players in the game?

[raven goblet]

Megaman intensifies

[sick ocean]

ok, a pro i mean

[ionic swan]

Atleast when he used to play

[solemn nacelle]

PFG garbage developers

[rancid jackal]

Put bob in the bottle

[sick ocean]

oh, u prob mean jmafia, yeah he kinda just went full bg tod spam

[ionic swan]

Man BG totally didnt wreck some tournaments in the past

[teal nest]

unless you losing to me or hardcore, we can't be complaining about tnj

[solemn nacelle]

Can’t stomach the truth?

[wispy umbra]

bro no way, all 5 multiversus players in the world are in this chat rn

[raven goblet]

pockets bottle and throws it back

[ionic swan]

I smeared Hardcore season 3 with Taz I had my glory so

[sick ocean]

yeah we can @0@

[solemn nacelle]

Dead game bro garbage hitboxes lame characters

[raven goblet]

This sounds wrong 💀

[solemn nacelle]

Imagine if they didn’t waste slots with lame characters like nubia or BG

[ionic swan]

Just because I can win against them wont make me hate them less

[jagged lotus]

Waugh

[wispy umbra]

game had the most potential for a comeback in may and they made the game worse than it was before

[rancid jackal]

MVS is dead bc they didn’t add Ben 10 instead they went for Nubia and banana guard

[solemn nacelle]

PFG are a bad studio

[ionic swan]

Lol

[solemn nacelle]

Facts. They thought they were smash bros and could add any character

[ionic swan]

The trolls came out nowhere like the vultures they are

[teal nest]

the character choice is one of the last things to be complaining about with this game

[wispy umbra]

not pfg, Warner bros

[raven goblet]

*roaches

[jagged lotus]

Wogshaucvejai

[unborn oasis]

only good character they added in mvs was lebron 😭

[solemn nacelle]

Season 5 suppose to be Lola and aquaman apparently. Idk how THOSE 2 are gonna boost the player count

[ornate oracle]

Im on that good kushin alchohol

[ionic swan]

Dont you disrespect my pets by comparing them

[sick ocean]

damn, you misspelled harley really bad

[fallen coyote]

The furries are gonna come out of the woodworks

[rancid jackal]

Player count after aquaman release ⬇️

[solemn nacelle]

Warner bros are trash but they can’t take all the blame PFG sucks are making balance characters and working hitboxes

[teal nest]

No matter the character choice, the game won't get players if it can't deliver on good gameplay

[wispy umbra]

multiversus players egos get hurt when ppl remind them that flappy bird probably has more players than their game

[rancid jackal]

Unless Jason momoa himself crawls out of my screen like the girl from the ring I’m not checking out season 5 of mvs

[ionic swan]

TNJ paddle so good vacuuming you in when your nowhere near the paddle

[ornate oracle]

Is that the real Penny from pokemon

[raven goblet]

We need raid

[teal nest]

shield

[frail fern]

Players first got the lemon but squeeze the juice out too early

[ionic swan]

Yes

[solemn nacelle]

It’s really crazy they think ppl gonna check the game out for Lola or aquaman

[ornate oracle]

Wait, aquaman is coming?

[real rampart]

They aren't

[ionic swan]

Pros give such bad advice because they cant properly connect to the Vast majority of the games playerbase

[teal nest]

speculation

[ionic swan]

They dont understand

[solemn nacelle]

LMAO I AM A PROPHET

[wispy umbra]

start playing brawlhalla or smth bro this game is gone 💀

[frail fern]

He'll have the same moveset as raven but water related

[fallen coyote]

I can't wait to play Aquaman and kill @sick ocean with a goldfish /joking

[ornate oracle]

Ts is cooked gang

[sick ocean]

wha @-@

[solemn nacelle]

@wispy umbra they were calling me a troll and a hater for this

[teal nest]

Pros literally give the best advice lol, who else is there to get advice from?

[ionic swan]

Aquaman will be added and I will play
Him day one

[raven goblet]

They’re just pathetic basement dwellers and neck beards who need game for social gratification to distract them from their otherwise abysmal life

[frail fern]

Perishmint

[wispy umbra]

I thought it was obvious that this game is dead, apparently people can’t cope with that fact

[solemn nacelle]

Pros are 0.1% of the playerbase they are not

[teal nest]

It's almost like he's a pro player

[frail fern]

He just a gremlin

[sick ocean]

what he means is ur clearly not a casual, and dont quite understand their experiences, what ur saying is the equivalent of "get good"

[ornate oracle]

Ah yes, the people who spend 14 hours a day on this game suck at giving advice..... hm.....

[sick ocean]

he's a tourney player

[ionic swan]

You tell someone who isnt on your level of reaction to play a certain way it wont likely work for them. It takes practice to achieve that kind of muscle memory

[frail fern]

You think I don't know that goober

[teal nest]

Damn... You good man?

[sick ocean]

i mean... idk

[ornate oracle]

Jeez 😭

[raven goblet]

Always— this is entertainment and pass time for me

[sick ocean]

holy damn, i may be ass but im right here yk, i just hv fun with it

[ionic swan]

You tell me Hardcorefox is a healthy individual with his hours hes putting in actually

[teal nest]

No, absolutely not lmao

[raven goblet]

Don’t be like them

[solemn nacelle]

“Steam numbers don’t matter” what happen to that crowd? Lmao

[sick ocean]

we consider him a pro? he played like 1 relaunch tourney no?

[frail fern]

Isn't there someone on MVS who just hit 5k hours?

Talk about too much time

[bold canyon]

4 days for season 5 and no marketing 💔 abysmal

[ionic swan]

Ofc you guys are gonna be able to react in ways we cant, some of us have to actually do other stuff weekly

[teal nest]

I'm a pro because I place in tournaments, not bc I play the game for hours on end

[sick ocean]

i love competitive fighting games, and although to a lesser extent, competitive tcg, so i mean, i wont be like them if its by ur description, but i will still play the game

[ornate oracle]

Unfortunatley

[heavy thicket]

I hope they're not waiting till season drop to announce shutdown or something

[solemn nacelle]

There’s never been any official MvS tournaments

[ionic swan]

Telling us to just block or do something doesnt reflect how we react to things

[ornate oracle]

I havent even started the battlepass 💔

[solemn nacelle]

Dead game

[teal nest]

Then practice

[ornate oracle]

Oh well womp womp

[ionic swan]

Yea its a skill issue ofc it is

[frail fern]

They probably won't shut it down yet, maybe a year or 2 imo

[bold canyon]

Don't tbh it's garbage I just bought it cuz I knew I was gonna finish it

[frail fern]

They gotta stick to steams rules of releases before closing shop

[solemn nacelle]

The writing was on the wall when ppl at TGA was laughing at MvS you ppl should of seen this

[heavy thicket]

I like the game but I'd be surprised honestly

[coral quarry]

Yes. Absolutely.

[ornate oracle]

Bought it for the marci skin, then never used it cause i got the ugly sweater one

[sick ocean]

steam has release rules like that? dang, never knew

[bold canyon]

I was part of the people that fought it was gonna go to season 10 but this game has been dead since season Nubia patch 💀

[ornate oracle]

which is sooooo much better imo

[ionic swan]

Character has Hitbox issues, “Just block”. Ok? They still have hitbox issues

[bold canyon]

Her forehead is so huge for no reason

[heavy thicket]

I want the sunhat one but it's locked into the bundle

[teal nest]

I give such simplistic advice bcause this game isn't hard to get good at

[frail fern]

For DLC/Battlepass stuff they made it very specific what companies have to do in order to stay

[raven goblet]

Can we talk about toast? Like why toast? If we’re giving each other something food wise why is it toast and not like a fruit or chicken or something??

[ornate oracle]

Also hi Hunter

[ionic swan]

Toast has become rather pointless

[heavy thicket]

She's got her season 1 look for some reason lol

[ivory drift]

u guys hear apparently games shutting down

[frail fern]

They have to follow up on their word what they're doing

[grim yew]

Does her batform wear a shirt like in her battlepass skin?

[raven goblet]

I’m sure a piece of cake or a cinnamon roll would be preferred over toast

[sick ocean]

oh, thats cool actually

[heavy thicket]

Sadly no

[bold canyon]

The amount of people that brought up my pfp is crazy I didn't know owl house was that popular

[raven goblet]

And why not a French toast or brioche toast

[heavy thicket]

I think it's just the distant lands one that keeps the shirt

[ionic swan]

Apparently, but its also a Rumor

[grim yew]

I'm happy about that tbh. Think the shirt looks goofy

[bold canyon]

Oblong head does not fit lolll

[ornate oracle]

Nope but i prefer the base skin

[ornate oracle]

Me neither

[grim yew]

I'll get it for sure if it's ever on sale or whatever

[ivory drift]

Feel like this is what happens when a company takes on too much bloat

[heavy thicket]

Her sunhat ring out has her modern circle head, just her model in game doesn't idk why

[hybrid frost]

If this game shut down , I’m moving back to Nintendo

[ivory drift]

how did they spend millions producing this game, could have been doing with much smaller development team

[real rampart]

or gets told what to do by their overlord

[ionic swan]

They did make some poor decisions I wont defend that

[sick ocean]

my condolences

[solemn nacelle]

PFG aren’t good developers?

[ionic swan]

Im just gonna be on Monster Hunter, Alot of fighting game communities are crazy

[grim yew]

The Owl House was one of the most popular shows on Disney when it was coming out, and the producers and such apparently regretted fulling funds from the show. The demand has continued since then too. Dana Terrance, the creator, is about to make a new cartoon with Glitch, I believe

[ornate oracle]

Im unfortunately still with them (I love Zelda and Pokemon too much)

[ivory drift]

why did it cost them so much, should have funded a small team and allowed them to flourish

[coral quarry]

You know, this game really shows that being the receiving end of Bugs' Bunny's shenanigans isn't funny at all... Feel for ya, Elmer and Sam...

[grim yew]

What a twist

[solemn nacelle]

I get bored of pokemon by the 4th gym

[solemn nacelle]

I’ve been saying this for months.

[sick ocean]

WAIT, THAT NEW ONE IS BY HER? WELP, IK WHAT IMA OBSSES OVER NOW

[ornate oracle]

Real nowadays

[dapper oar]

A character a month wasn't realistic.... but people expected 3 because Multiversus season 1 had three.

[bold canyon]

Yeah knights of Guinevere it looks awesome hopefully the fandom won't be as bad as digital circus
I'm hoping they'll release a book like amphibia or gravity falls one day, I need more 😔

[solemn nacelle]

No people expected good characters, good balancing, and good hitboxes. There were 0/3

[raven goblet]

Kek

[grim yew]

Knights of Guinevere, yeah. I thought it looked cute and then got REALLY excited when the credits popped up on screen

[ornate oracle]

Youll have to tie me down to get me to watch the digital circus

[grim yew]

M-hm

[dapper oar]

You can't balance an push out a character a month.

[sick ocean]

ty for telling me, i was procrastinating watching the trailer, now ima just bite the bullet

[raven goblet]

Sounds like a request NGL

[ornate oracle]

God forbid

[grim yew]

:D

[raven goblet]

Bro wants it to happen

[ionic swan]

The irony is we have live a torture episode from looney tunes on a regular basis

[ornate oracle]

NO I DONT 😭

[fallen coyote]

What a rope bunny

[bold canyon]

It's actually really good you should watch it, I thought the same cuz of the fandom but tbh I really liked it
Murder drones is really overrated though

[dapper oar]

Big studio can't even do a character a month. But an indie studio is trying to pull that off.

[grim yew]

Lmao what has this chat turned to

[solemn nacelle]

We know every character they dropped was broken on release

[raven goblet]

I’m gonna help just for the lols I’m getting the rope

[ornate oracle]

But i liked Murder drones......

[ionic swan]

Soon….

[grim yew]

And then there's Nubia

[ionic swan]

Nubia in 2s is no joke sir

[raven goblet]

If only we could spawn items like a real looney tunes

[grim yew]

She's really good now, but she didn't come out broken, is all lol. Even in 1s, she's not bad at all

[solemn nacelle]

What happen to the “steam numbers don’t matter” crowd?

[ionic swan]

Nubia’s Nair is Insane

[ornate oracle]

🫴 🔨 💥

[ionic swan]

They dont because most people playing mvs rn are on xbox lol

[heavy thicket]

Was that one time they gave out fighter currency in the Christmas event a mistake or

[raven goblet]

You tripping infinite money glitch for me

[ionic swan]

I’ll agree and disagree with some of the stuff your saying

[solemn nacelle]

If they’re losing players on steam that means they are players on all platforms

[primal jay]

At this point, I don't care about the characters just fix the gameplay and combat

[solemn nacelle]

And Xbox is the smallest player base

[ionic swan]

Yes, its also atleast still on the top free to play page on Xbox

[solemn nacelle]

PlayStation was the biggest player base for mvs

[grim yew]

Really? I swear I ONLY run into xbox players

[ionic swan]

Unfortunately yes

[ornate oracle]

Mvs stole 500 hours of my life and 10 bucks, can never forgive them!

[ionic swan]

Xbox has a pretty decent size community people are unaware for some reason

[grim yew]

Damn near 700 for me. Will probably get there if I finally get lucky enough for a master rank

[coral quarry]

I play on X-Box

[grim yew]

Btw master rank is pure luck because this rp system and matchmaking is THAT god awful

[bold canyon]

Imo it made no sense and was kinda unfunny to me
I found circus way better but I guess that's just taste, u should still try it tho

[ionic swan]

Yep I noticed

[ornate oracle]

Was robbed of masters last season, Diamond 1, 1 rp away.....

[raven goblet]

And thus the climb and descent into madness continues

[ionic swan]

Im sure Discord or Twitter has Stolen more hours of our lives than Mvs has

[ornate oracle]

No.

[grim yew]

Omg I could cry. Yeah, I got robbed a bunch of times. Diamond 2 rn, hoping to just close that out and be done with it

[worn ferry]

Just got a double chalk bomb kill on these 2 black adams so I beetlejuice troll tactics dance taunted on them

[primal jay]

I'm still working on getting that Jason skin

[grim yew]

Unironically. I made more progress with two master players that had actually good connections in one night than days on end in pure stagnation being robbed by the dumbest stuff ever

[ornate oracle]

Never played ranked this season. I'm WAYYYYYY too bitter 😭

[real rampart]

[grim yew]

I'mma be straight up, my hand has a couple scars from punching my closet

[worn ferry]

crazy how ppl don't play beetlejuice more why don't yall?

[dapper oar]

They should remove troll tactics, there're legit players that get on just to taunt in the corner while the other team beats you up.

[coral quarry]

By the way, I saw the Marceline profile pic you did for @red hemlock and it's really great!

[raven goblet]

Lucky …. I wish
I have proved to be cursed beyond help

[raven goblet]

Disgusting

[supple panther]

The way people are saying season 5 is a last ditch effort for this game help

[ornate oracle]

He cant do stupid shi like Bugs Bunny. thats why

[raven goblet]

Stupidest idea actually

[grim yew]

I mean, my luck could go away any second, don't jynx me

[raven goblet]

He can

[dapper oar]

Rumor, signal boosted by PFG's silence.

[ornate oracle]

Can he drop a safe from the heavens?

[raven goblet]

I don’t have that power of anything I jinxed myself just now

[raven goblet]

He can drop a coffin and a roach

[ornate oracle]

Hmmmmmm.

[raven goblet]

And dance on your grave too

[ionic swan]

Maybe if PFG actually was actually more careful and didn’t waste funds and time they wouldnt be on low powermode rn

[ornate oracle]

Ay you, you seem pretty cool

[dapper oar]

Free armored attack, with instant dash attack.

[raven goblet]

And breaks armor

[ornate oracle]

I dont care about move conditions i just want my character to be funny

[ionic swan]

By the end of the day they listened too much to the comp players that dont bring in the majority of money for them. The game needed more catering to the casual scene.

[ornate oracle]

I used to play Marvin for christs sake

[worn ferry]

He can??? He's got good setups just like bugs

[bold canyon]

Why tho..

[grim yew]

Yaaaaaay ty ✨️

[supple panther]

Help low powemode is a perfect description

[ornate oracle]

👍

[dapper oar]

What conditions he just have a free armored attack 😐

[raven goblet]

Lol

[ornate oracle]

Its not funny tho 😒

[raven goblet]

I don’t think any character is funny

[ionic swan]

Its fun to be competitive but dont kid urself the casual Majority is way more important

[dapper oar]

It not

[worn ferry]

Calling Beetlejuice unfunny gotta be top 5 worst takes I've seen in this chat

[ornate oracle]

I think Bugs Bunny is funny, that's why i play him............

[stark jetty]

@raven goblet any luck with masters?

[ionic swan]

Pros wanna go to events and make
Money off them when that does not help the game itself make money

[ornate oracle]

I didnt say he wasnt funny, i said that MOVE isnt funny

[raven goblet]

😔 let’s not talk about it

[stark jetty]

Sorry, figured i would check in

[ionic swan]

Your always welcome lol

[raven goblet]

I only think he’s funny in normals

[ionic swan]

Its chaos rn in chat

[ornate oracle]

That's fair

[stark jetty]

I was saying sorry majesty is having a terrible time with ranked

[ionic swan]

Ohhh, Yea the games out to get him

[worn ferry]

why are there so many flippin fins on tonight i hate this

[ionic swan]

The players stealth Hacking in rank rn arent helping either

[stark jetty]

I know chat has been chaos all day because of a rumor, but rumor or not I am playing season 5 and so are most people here lol

[ornate oracle]

I fought Flacoco once. Now i don't like finn anymore

[ionic swan]

I havent run into any tonight like last night fortunately

[stark jetty]

It doesn't change anything

[solemn nacelle]

Probably is recent seasons cus u know dead game. Season 1-2 was heavily PS5 and Steam

[ornate oracle]

What are stealth hacks

[ionic swan]

Meaning use Cheats that are hard to notice unless your really paying attention

Ive had 3 friends already talk to me about similiar things we noticed

[ornate oracle]

Hacking in a platform fighter is real low, can you explain it further?

[harsh holly]

i play this game like every day in 2s queue and I have not seen anything out of the ordinary, please do tell

[dapper oar]

A yes endless momentum and easy anti-projetcile options.

I especially hate playing Bugs against him.

[ionic swan]

We think its Auto Dodge, and shrinking your hurtbox

[raven goblet]

plays one match with me
I quit the game

[worn ferry]

I've had at least 6 matches in casual w finn in them.

[stark jetty]

It can be subtle things like causing lag spikes, auto playing hacks, and frame perfect software

[ionic swan]

Its brutal what happens in ur rank matches LOL

[ionic swan]

Autoplay hacks might be a thing also where it macros combos

[dapper oar]

Yeesh some nerds literally rockin a tas dodge?

[harsh holly]

im capping, the most I can believe is macros since the game was built without analog support

[ionic swan]

Its basically dodge in response to an oncoming attack in range of ur hurtbox

[ivory silo]

I haven’t played mvs or been in the community for a while why are people acting like the world is ending?

People are talking about shut down or something

[ionic swan]

Hopefully the update breaks the cheats

[stark jetty]

A leaker mentioned a rumor that the game might be having a last ditch effort season

[ornate oracle]

How does Finn get nerfed to the ground and is still A- tier

[raven goblet]

See nobody will believe you until they experience it

[stark jetty]

And it's absolutely rumor right now

[ivory silo]

I mean as long as I get my refund I’m chilling

This is a joke btw

[ionic swan]

They have to see their attacks just go through the opponents and then the opponents macro combo you the same way after the constant perfect dodges

[ornate oracle]

Hmmm

[harsh holly]

modifications were cut down on post relaunch and there simply isnt enough of a playerbase to HAVE a motivation to put together a frame perfect dodge system. like, fortnite has hackers because there's legitamate incentive to do such a thing. FNCS toruneys and prize pots make spending the 100s of hours programming a cheat system seem worth it. MvS has been to like one major in the entirety of its relaunch. the money and interest just isnt there

[raven goblet]

Yea….

[ionic swan]

The players were moving like AI, Extremely good AI

If that helps

Ive had 4 games total, all the same weird stuff

[harsh holly]

Mvs is a very simple game, I don't want to denote your skill but I believe it really is just a matter of muscle memory to achieve what you describe

[ionic swan]

Only this season it happened

[ornate oracle]

Fair point

[ionic swan]

Walking through Taz Dogpile? With no dodge?

[raven goblet]

Lol last night a Jack stood on the top of my rocket and it took him all the way to the top of the screen he even emoted before jumping off
No damage unaffected

[ornate oracle]

Ok then.

[ionic swan]

Its like our attacks dont hit them at all

[raven goblet]

I was feeling so bad because it was making Quantum lose everything

[ionic swan]

Im aware some players are cracked, This was not the case

[harsh holly]

dodges on multihits are janky af, I have seen things like this happen since relaunch. I think you're seeing this more because ranked players are taking the time to use it properly

[graceful prairie]

make lebrons ball instakill

[ornate oracle]

Kinda feeling like playing 2s, even tho im rusty

[ionic swan]

Quantum got to see the bs atleast

[ornate oracle]

Thatd be funny asf i woudldnt even be mad

[raven goblet]

He didn’t deserve that

[ionic swan]

Play casual twos Dont risk it

[worn ferry]

Everyone is playing bugs and finn tonight it's like there's a reward for playing the biggest tool and everyone is gunning for first place

[harsh holly]

i play IG and if they dodge the first hit of Up B, they dodged every consecutive hit and its like, a 3-4 second move

[ornate oracle]

But i hate matchmaking randoms

[harsh holly]

its just how they built the dodge system

[ionic swan]

I seen alot of Finns, even ditto finn teams

[raven goblet]

I hope so…

[graceful prairie]

lebron is so mid he's funny

[ionic swan]

Finn with big Hitbox go brrrrrrr „Just Block bro“

[ornate oracle]

Parry this you filthy casual

[primal jay]

Depending on how the season performs, the game will either continue or finish

[ionic swan]

Hell yea Play perfect

Love that „Shoulda dodged“ mentality

[harsh holly]

genuine tip in most matchups in this game; approach from above, even with shields the strongest option for most matchups is jumping onto someone with an aerial

[ionic swan]

Dodging through attacks??? In My Multiversus??

[graceful prairie]

to be fr i aint touched this game in like 5 months

[harsh holly]

you can even bait with your double jump if you get cold feet ( a strong option in a agme where most of its cast has a glide)

[ornate oracle]

IMPOSSIBLE 👺

[dapper oar]

It's that cute feature that was added to deal with the lack of short hops, you don't "land" for a short amount of time.

But we have short hops now and the whole staying in aerial mode for a half second when you land is still in the game.... Which is annoying.

[ornate oracle]

Same

[graceful prairie]

used to main marvin bron and joker

[ornate oracle]

Havent been on since Marci's first week

[harsh holly]

agreed, its a huge reason why Mvs feels bad in the hands of most casuals

[ionic swan]

Marcy Elbow is a war crime rn

[ornate oracle]

Bugs, Marvin and maybeeeeee Marceline

[ornate oracle]

I might have to come back......

[harsh holly]

use jacks down B and land with it, he has ACTUAL endlag. makes me feel like im playing a different game for a second

[midnight forge]

Need 1 for 2b 2

[primal jay]

https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-phoenix-joker-movie-joker-actor-famous-gif-15224220

[sharp sequoia]

i see hat marcvys elbow is still broken asf

[ornate oracle]

Greetings

[midnight forge]

2vs 2

[ionic swan]

Yes spam it and Up B you‘ll win hard

[raven goblet]

I don’t think that’s the same at all ….
He was standing on the armor breaking top of the rocket as it was going up and emoting while doing it

[ornate oracle]

What Rank brotha

[frail fern]

I remember I did casual a few days ago, my teammate had 20 wins and we faced another top dog and a diamond. I felt so bad for the new guy

[sharp sequoia]

like when is it gonna get nerfed? i dont understand at all. she gets 2 different hitboxes and tgakes up half the stage while also stunning a person when she transforms. like how op can this be

[ionic swan]

The tip of the rocket is where its suppose to hit you also lol

[dapper oar]

Platforms being a pain in the ass to drop through to.

Like why would you give the option to press up to jump. But require jump+down to drop through a platform.

[sharp sequoia]

it feels like im playing fortnite season 5 with the cars al over again. no skill at all its just pure brokenness

[raven goblet]

And the fact that he could do his dumb dance and casually walk off is mind boggling

[ionic swan]

I just shield on top of them now, not worth the risk

[midnight forge]

@ornate oracle im gold 3 with 2 players

[kind cedar]

Bro why is my Rick partner teleporting my opponents out of my combos. Why

[midnight forge]

@ornate oracle check yo dms

[coral quarry]

man, Black Adam's down-air kick is...dumb

[ionic swan]

Because its Rick, spam good

[harsh holly]

this is a side effect of a larger problem; no analog support. stick jump can be frankensteined together but you can't really recreate the same for... holding down to drop through plats

[ionic swan]

We really need Attack decay back…

Like good attack decay

[frail fern]

Fast fall op

[harsh holly]

in fact this same EXACT cause-effect is what happened in NASB1, no analog = no dropping through plats

[harsh holly]

being able to cancel and recommit to fast fall would be an insane option in any other game. literally never been done before

[kind cedar]

I have never seen a Rick be so actively detrimental as this. Not only did he not accomplish anything but he actively teleported the enemies out of my combos. Awful

[sharp sequoia]

imma start tweaking man holy god this is so awful

[ionic swan]

I had alot of instances where Jasons bed wouldnt apply its knockback tonight, lost a game because of it

[dapper oar]

Yes several issues with analog not being treated like a stick.

Tap to fast fall is sd central

[harsh holly]

i don't mean to tear this game a new one, just been playing every day for months and I've taken up studying the little things that add up to why people dont enjoy the gameplay

[kind cedar]

For some reason this game is designed around keyboard controls so everything is digital instead of analog

[coral quarry]

I wish they'd at least given him a Captain Marvel Shazam skin with new voice lines and animations, just so that it wasn't constantly that smug arrogance of Black Adam beating you up.

[kind cedar]

Same reason why we don't have real dashing either

[ionic swan]

[harsh holly]

my gf was using tap to fast fall until i explained just how powerful the default was, being able to juke people out infinitely midair

[kind cedar]

(Still baffled why we added dash attacks with no real dashing like half a year later too)

[frail fern]

If you dodge while fast falling you can recomitt to it

[ionic swan]

I wish we could run, but also some characters already move like they‘re running

[frail fern]

It definitely helps vs some toons

[harsh holly]

I assume its a side effect from MvS being designed as an all-platform live service (scrapped switch and mobile releases)

[kind cedar]

I don't even mind there not being a difference between walking and dashing but adding dash attacks with that makes no sense

I would have rather had back airs tbh

[frail fern]

Best way I saw mvs backthen was a super smash flash rip, then they moulded it to their design

[ionic swan]

I like how they added Dash attacks and never explained in the tutorial how to double tap a direction and attack to do them quickly

[harsh holly]

dashing is a catalyst for MvS snail pace neutral. what mind games ARE there when your moment to moment gameplay usually boils down to bullrushing your opponent

[kind cedar]

The tutorial in general is just terrible now. It wasn't amazing in the beta but it was 10x better easy

[frail fern]

Tutorial is poopy, agree

[kind cedar]

They don't even explain DI in the new tutorial

[frail fern]

Doesn't help they janked parrying because of shields too

[harsh holly]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-they-dont-even-have-dental-dental-teeth-dentist-gif-24793655

[ionic swan]

Would love to approach TnJ and his projectiles, and his trap he‘s camping by, and his Paddle to cover me going above the projectiles

[grim yew]

I don't ever wanna hear Batman downplay, istg

[frail fern]

Batman slander all day

Easy peasy character like marce

[ionic swan]

Batman slide, Harley slide that low profile

[grim yew]

Anti-air slide

[ionic swan]

The slides are insane

[dapper oar]

Some of the dash attacks don't even make sense for a character to have instant access to.

Like Batman slide..... Then PFG made it down attack. So it's easier to spam slide.

Other Examples Taz/WW/Superman/BeetleJuice. None of those should be instant.

[coral quarry]

The slides go under so many attacks

[ionic swan]

Taz dash attack dont even low profile that good

[worn ferry]

yeah wish it went under like batman and harley at the most you can beat nubia spear w it

[ionic swan]

It hasn’t even been working for me against her anymore lately

[dapper oar]

Sooooo many Batmans are just happy to wait for you to do anything so they can slide in.

[sharp sequoia]

can we get longer cooldown on things or something like holy god this is crazy. superman legit had 148 damage cause he didnt do anything but stay in the air and use his abilities with shields nothing else

[ionic swan]

Or that new armor break dash attack.

[frail fern]

I use armor crush 500% now

[sharp sequoia]

like no wonder why hes diamond 3 he got carried to it and didnt do anything but stay out the way

[ionic swan]

PFG said they dont like putting cooldowns on stuff, (Taz nado) (Taz Dogpile)

[sharp sequoia]

legit the worst player i ever seen in my life and he manages to win cause staying in the air is the most easiy thing todo

[coral quarry]

ugh. Can't beat Black Adam tonight. Or ...really that often.

[grim yew]

Desperately

[sharp sequoia]

THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING I EVER HEARD WTF ARE THEY AT

[dapper oar]

Also why instant dash shouldn't be a thing.

[ionic swan]

It was when they removed the cooldown on WW‘s lasso

[coral quarry]

Yep. This is so annoying.

[sharp sequoia]

dont want cool downs yety it causes games to be unbalanced and unfair if you have 2 crazy mages on ur team like they legit can tweak cool downs like every other game does

[grim yew]

I'd usually agree, but then they shouldn't have made moves so strong that they were DESIGNED to be only available at certain times

[ionic swan]

But ofc Taz gotta have a cooldown on his Nado he cant cancel out of, while Jack has that Side B

[dapper oar]

Dogpile definitely has cooldown, tornado just give you a shorter tornado.

[grim yew]

They're very skilled at using batarangs and batclaw tho

[kind cedar]

Putting a cooldown on lasso and then reverting it like 2 weeks later is still one of the funniest balance changes of all time

[ionic swan]

People wanted a cooldown added to Jacks Side B cause the spam

[kind cedar]

All it needed was adding the whiff to the focused one. Though tbh I still don't like Jack getting free focus from getting beaten up

[ionic swan]

I just Hate his Jab that does everything for him

[wraith geyser]

I wonder if news will drop tomorrow, its getting way too long pwp

[ionic swan]

Frame 9 Foot that eats other attacks it feels like

[ionic swan]

We must endure

[dapper oar]

I just don't want it to hit above, behind and below him

Also that projectiles actually stop the hitbox from coming out.

[ionic swan]

Bro can side B through so much

[coral quarry]

ugh. Lebron

[ionic swan]

🏀🏀

[sharp sequoia]

they have so little of cool down its crazy

[grim yew]

Shaggy's too. "Oh yeah, we cut a conversion last patch but changed our minds in this one tee hee"

[dapper oar]

🏀🏀🏀🏀

[coral quarry]

There's something extra annoying about being a sword trained assassin getting beaten by... a basketball player.

[sharp sequoia]

like certain things dont need a cool down while others need longer cool downs like you souldnt be able to spam the same move 40 times in the matter of 2 minutes

[ionic swan]

The basketballs have such insane knockback

[grim yew]

Unless the news are "every single character nerfed like crazy to add counterplay to the game", I ain't excited

[dapper oar]

It would be fine if LeBron had two balls on screen but it's usually 4 being tossed out and relaunched by allies

[kind cedar]

Makes it difficult to take this game seriously when the balance team is clearly winging it

[limber onyx]

Every single character buffed like crazy

[dapper oar]

I think they definitely put spectacle and esports over balance.

[worn ferry]

always tbag the nair spamming wonder woman. always

[ionic swan]

Casual scene suffered for the comp scene

[sharp sequoia]

it makes the game more chaotic in comp settings and makes to so mages can spam the same move over and keep distance and you cant even get near them so they hide away in a little corner like its cod warzone. AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE THAT STUPID BUBBLE

the whole game needs a rework just as a whole they need to rework every single character from the ground up and make it balanced

[grim yew]

Seriously

[ionic swan]

Thats why I left rank recently

[grim yew]

Yeah, no. Please no more, I beg of them. I can't stand buffs anymore.

[ionic swan]

I played a good while today, had fun

[dapper oar]

Casually bullied with 0tds by t-baggers with crying shaggy emotes....

"I'm gonna spend money and free time here" - no casual ever

[kind jolt]

Fr

[ionic swan]

Its wild they went so hard on trying to please the comp scene only for alot of the comp players to just leave them lol

We have more casuals sticking it out

Join an FFA and the que is mega fast

[grim yew]

Did they tho? I never heard anything but complaints from the comp players cause they never got their desired changes

[dapper oar]

Fair, never waited for one of those ques

[ionic swan]

All the ever changed combat-wise was to please them

[grim yew]

Well, they failed lol

[sharp sequoia]

honestly its a double edge sword for comp and casuals. look at fortnite for example. but the game shouldnt be like this at all its so bad its crazy

[ionic swan]

Focus in on making it like smash and ignore working on their own perk system that gave the game more its own identity

[sharp sequoia]

the hitboxes, desync, all of it

[distant haven]

omg the devs didnt make this game exactly the way i wanted it so im deleting it says anyone who quits this game

[ionic swan]

Whos quitting

[distant haven]

idk

[ionic swan]

Voicing where they went wrong and what happened the past month reflects it

[coral quarry]

Banana Guard out here reminding me why I hate him the most.

[ionic swan]

Big Active Hitbox, Damage, Knockback

[distant haven]

i love bnan players they just side b into 0td

[ionic swan]

Lol

[dapper oar]

Perks are weird. Like some are straight up useless, Sigs are just things the character should have in the base kit, touching speed perk feels like adding input delay.....

I like fire I guess.

[ionic swan]

Some of them are not even being used, and they go removing or nerfing the ones people liked using

The beta had some awesome perks

[coral quarry]

Well, you handle them better than me.

[frail fern]

#bringffabackasapermgamemode

[distant haven]

i feel like beta perks were just thrown together tho

[frail fern]

Rip ice perk

[dapper oar]

Take out both weakened perks.... Have two characters get easy access to it at anytime anyways.

[coral quarry]

This is seriously a parade of just the characters I have the most trouble with right now. Shaggys with BGs with Jacks...

[frail fern]

And old static shock perk

[ionic swan]

We still had more to work with them atleast. Like I hated the beta gameplay sure, but the perks were great to me

[distant haven]

try playing him in local if u dont have him, playing a character will almost always help u handle them easier

[primal jay]

Ui was good

Gold coins too

[frail fern]

It was sleek, faster and reliable

[ionic swan]

Give Marcy Armor on Bat Moves, doesnt show armor on her

[distant haven]

what no

[frail fern]

Changed from 2d fighter to 3d claymation fighting,

[dapper oar]

Jack doesn't even have to apply weakened himself the teammate just gets it

[primal jay]

They don’t to removed the one they have now but at least give us the option to change it

[ionic swan]

No I mean her down B basically has armor Ive tried challenging it with Jason in rage and it just beats me

[coral quarry]

This makes sense, yeah. But man, I hate him. I don't want to spend my time playing characters I hate.

[frail fern]

I had a stroke reading that

[primal jay]

I’m fcking stupid, let me do it again

[dapper oar]

I've interrupted those, before so IDK. But they are high priority with exaggerated hitboxes, and safe because cancelable.

[ionic swan]

Yea I love hearing the devs say they removed weaken and I go into games and see weaken applied to me

[primal jay]

At least give us the option to change it, it’s not like they have to remove the ui we have now but give us the option to change it whenever we feel like it.

[ionic swan]

But lets remove Taz‘s weaken and not give him tasty stacks on the eat move

[hardy flare]

rip multiversus i onced loved you

[dapper oar]

I love Taz grab having no amour and you manually have time the attack by holding it....

[ionic swan]

Eats projectiles, gets hit by them anyway lol

[primal jay]

Not yet, wait till season 5 announces its future

[ionic swan]

It‘s a love hate for me rn

[coral quarry]

PLEASE for the love of GOD nerf the Marceline elbow

[dapper oar]

I have fun but there's oppressive nonsense 100%

[hardy flare]

i love how everybody complaining like the game aint on its deathbed FLY HIGH LLM😔 😔 😔

[ionic swan]

We hope the devs will listen and lock in thats why

[hardy flare]

it aint getting announced they pullin the plug

[primal jay]

Too far in development, they have no choice

[hardy flare]

😔 i hate this just as much as you do

[ionic swan]

They legally cant pull the plug yet

[primal jay]

And besides, season 5 performance will determine its future

[hardy flare]

i dont blame the devs they working with the poopiest of cards

[frail fern]

I don't think they can give the option because they rebuilt the game

[dapper oar]

Criticism is useful, but if you're to mean with it it'll likely be ignored.

[ionic swan]

Their silence is reassuring

[primal jay]

Really?? Crap

[craggy ore]

Why

[hardy flare]

mordecai and rigby would be the only people capable of pulling this clutch

[fallen coyote]

Season 6, they add Starfire

[ionic swan]

„sarcasm“

[primal jay]

2 cartoon networks?? Lmao “Muh dc”

[craggy ore]

MORE DCCC

[primal jay]

But yeah i see your point

[ionic swan]

I like DC so its a win in my book

[hardy flare]

aquaman and lola bunny gon make me jump 😔

🙏 i pray on both of their downfalls

[ionic swan]

Aquaman goat

[coral quarry]

Teen Titan characters do have the benefit of being both DC and Cartoon Network characters, kinda sorta.

[fallen coyote]

Plot twist: it's Aquaman from the Harley Quinn show

[dapper oar]

It means they're working, have a surprise, or closing up shop.

Also Ajax might've been silenced for G.I. Bot posting.

[ionic swan]

CN fans only ones screaming about the DC reps to be honest

[hardy flare]

i hope its aqua man from caped crusader

[coral quarry]

Aquaman was probably being developed when his first movie was a billion dollar hit.

[fallen coyote]

I hope it's Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy

[ionic swan]

I see

[primal jay]

Couple retweets in his account

[hardy flare]

they would be hinting at something instead of letting the game take one last look at the rabbits

[ionic swan]

AJAX being risky with his posts lol

[dapper oar]

Also Daffy.

[hybrid frost]

If I could pay for your ban I would

[ionic swan]

Maybe they delayed the announcements because they axed AJAX and had to re record lol

[hardy flare]

hope so

[primal jay]

Billion dollar movie but some how you got people telling me that his not “popular”

[hardy flare]

and then we get the most baller thing ever

[ionic swan]

Aquaman is cool now where yall been

[hardy flare]

he cool but not cool enough

lowkey useless tbh

[ionic swan]

What if he drops a whale on opponents?

[primal jay]

Nakat does most of the talking anyway

[ionic swan]

He does

[hybrid frost]

Bro ain’t no different from dr dolittle, his animals is just more under the sea

[hardy flare]

then i uninstall the game

[sharp sequoia]

no updates on the new season yet is crazy

[coral quarry]

I think Aquaman is cool. I'm interested to see what they do with him, if he's really on the potential roster.

[dapper oar]

Eh the actor was. I think you can do something interesting with the water powers, but often Aqua man is just stabby guy.

And we have stabby banana and stabby woman.

[sharp sequoia]

and its dropping in 4-3 days

[ionic swan]

Ive been positive each season until now

They gotta do something lol

[primal jay]

I swear to god if they say nothing tomorrow

[hardy flare]

time is ticking

[primal jay]

An octopus is part of his move set

[sharp sequoia]

i aint been positive ever since beta. thats a lie right when it was about to drop i was hyped and thought it was gonna be good until i saw jason be broken asf and the hitboxes revert back to the olden days of the game

[dapper oar]

There's still the weekend.

[ionic swan]

Speculation? Otherwise ur spoiling

[sharp sequoia]

now all everyone does is flex they are top elo on a dying game when you say they are trash

[hardy flare]

saying jason was broken season 0 is so crazy

[sharp sequoia]

in the dark like its TPNE deluxe

[dapper oar]

The Boys

[ionic swan]

Jason was def not awful he had some Jab loops

[primal jay]

Asuil revealed it

[ionic swan]

(The DEEP)

[hardy flare]

yeah but he was a glass cannon with really thin glass

[dapper oar]

The deep

[hardy flare]

bro was lebrons butt buddy

[ionic swan]

That was not his fault it was because all the loops on the roster that season

Now that alot of them are gone hes showing his strengths

[hardy flare]

i aint played in a while is bugs still good?

[sharp sequoia]

macry is also op still even after the nerf. like they didnt even do anything to even nerf her

[dapper oar]

Technically yes but you can't challenge anyone directly.

[sharp sequoia]

this is one of the few fighting games i have played in my life other than mortal kombat and i can tell you this is awful

i played older smash games online better than this

[hardy flare]

i feel like the game got progressively slower

[upper parrot]

Any news at all?

[sharp sequoia]

no this is juice wrlds the party never ends all over again

[dapper oar]

Nope maybe Monday

[hardy flare]

they wanted it to be more brawl than melee

[sharp sequoia]

pete, bibby, and grade A are behind those curtains

[primal jay]

Friday please show something

[sharp sequoia]

thats fine with me so long as they can update the game right and fix the problems and bugs but nah they dont at all

[dapper oar]

Someone hasn't played brawl recently

[sharp sequoia]

you know whats even more crazy. i aint even gonna buy aquaman fck spending money on this sh!tty ass game

[hardy flare]

is brawl not that slow

[harsh holly]

i think the gameplay MvS was really aiming for was brawlhalla... sure couldnt tell you what its meant to resemble now

[primal jay]

The dodging mechanic gave it away

[coral quarry]

Well, I couldn't hang with the Platinum crowd, but I was there, so I think I get the prize.

[hardy flare]

no it wasnt brawlhalla relies on movement and creative combos

[sharp sequoia]

hit plat and my friend is 2 ranks away from dia 5 or whatever the purple one is called.

[dapper oar]

I'm not surpassing plait either..

[hardy flare]

multiversus is based on reads

[sharp sequoia]

cant go any futher cause of people wanting to go pro in this dying game

[harsh holly]

brawl is not slow necessarily it just lost a lot of melee's movement. it's defined by its character specific tech more than anything

[coral quarry]

Nicely done.

[sharp sequoia]

or people jsut spam the same moves over and ovr again

[coral quarry]

It's pretty brutal. I just kept getting immediately kicked back to Gold.

[harsh holly]

you're just describing MvS original beta

[frail fern]

He was a bit slow and you could harass him like ig

If they didn't di or attempt to move

[sharp sequoia]

i dont even know a lot about fighting games which is the crazy part. i never took a liking to them until this game dropped.

[hardy flare]

i would not be lying if i told you wanted the beta back

[harsh holly]

i mean i respect your opinion even if i dont agree

[hardy flare]

i dont resprect your 40 missles incoming

[sharp sequoia]

beta hitboxes were just the best like afer the fix but they someone how fcked it over again

[primal jay]

They can take a couple features

[frail fern]

Changed from 2d to 3d

[sharp sequoia]

from beta to full release?

[frail fern]

They rebuilt the game

[hardy flare]

i never fell off the beta

[harsh holly]

haha og Beta hitboxes were literally the default UN pill collision boxes. that was the point I started doubting PFG as a fighting game balance team

[sharp sequoia]

cause what i seen was the hitboxes were pillshaped in beta than they fully made the hitboxes the same as the characters which should have been done in the first place. and now its 3d?

[hardy flare]

pfg is goin straight bankrupt afta this on gng

[harsh holly]

yah

[sharp sequoia]

its a 2d platform fighter that has 3d elements. they should have kept the 2d hitboxes

[primal jay]

“Pills” lol that was funny

[sharp sequoia]

they did fix them after which was perfect until full release. the pills shouldnt have been there but yk first time making a game so cant bash them to hard

[hardy flare]

bro and when i saw the new maps for mid season patch season three i was so dissapointed

[frail fern]

Players first has a bad track record overall

[sharp sequoia]

thats legit what its called when making a game LOL or atlaest thats what a lot of devs call them

[sharp sequoia]

they only made mobile games before idk what wb was thinking when they trusted a mobile game company to make a platform fighter

[harsh holly]

it's unfortunate because this was their FIRST project as a studio and WB basically asked "could you make a live service game WITH online multiplayer? this needs to be our fortnite" literally impossible task, I do not envy them

[hardy flare]

i saw the generic stages and knew we were cooked, ESPECIALLY after rivals came out

[frail fern]

I feel if they kept some of the original fixers and debuggers, the game would be in a better state

[hardy flare]

and rod wave still dropping music😔

[frail fern]

But their only concern is cmon dumbnuts, spend 100 hours in rifts instead of playing vs people

[sharp sequoia]

splitgate was made by 3 people in 6 months and was the largest growing game. the team behind it never made a whole lotta bangers ether so saying this is kinda dumb

[hardy flare]

rifts are so brain dead

[harsh holly]

I love it because the pill is meant for games on the Z axis, if they really meant to rock defaults then the cube hitboxes would've been the way to go

[sharp sequoia]

100% agree with you

[sharp sequoia]

if they made reifts decent and maybe if it was like a 10 dollar dlc i wouldnt even mind

like if it had a real story with cinimatic cutscenes even for a minute

[frail fern]

I wish they stopped rifts after season 2 and focused on the gamemodes more.

[hardy flare]

why do ftp games suck at pve????

[sharp sequoia]

like showing how each of the characters interact and talk with eachother would have been amazin

[blazing frost]

Anyone bored right now

[harsh holly]

maybe im outside the main gaming zeitgiest but i have never heard of this game in my life, when i say they wanted a fortnite clone I mean a game that literally everyone knows

[sharp sequoia]

which splitgate was known as well. it was huge back in 2021

[primal jay]

Welcome to the party

[hardy flare]

i think rumblverse should get a second chance, replace multiversus

[blazing frost]

Is it a boring one?

[sharp sequoia]

it peaked 67k on steam charts but it was mostly popular on console. it was so popular that epic wanted to buy the rights to the game

[harsh holly]

im not gonna bs with you since i dont know splitgate really, there's a lot of things that go into games taking off and I don't think PFG were given any of the means to do so

[sharp sequoia]

millions of views across thousands of videos and it only kept growing. whats crazy is that it was made by 20 people ( my bad ) but they never made a game before thats crazy think about that. 20 people that never made a game before had a all time peak of 67k steam players and it kept growing

[blazing frost]

God I wish there was more to do nowadays.

[sharp sequoia]

PFG shouldnt have been the ones behind it. i would have trusted any other company

Fair Play Labs and Ludosity made nickelodeons all star brawl they would have had a better chance than PFG

[harsh holly]

I was wondering how valid the initial rumors were that netherrealm was contacted to make MvS. Could you imagine that? I'm curious how that would even look-would the game even be a platform fighter anymore?

[sharp sequoia]

like no offence to them but its crazy

[sharp sequoia]

id say. netherrealm studio understand how to make a good fighter

[frail fern]

Epic would've put fortnite characters in

[hardy flare]

you think epic games wouldve gone with it better?

[sharp sequoia]

im fine with that tbh.

[primal jay]

Sadly both nick games suffered too

[harsh holly]

ludosity and fair play have some chops honestly, NASB1 had a year of dev time last i checked and so did 2. so little time and yet its still pretty fun (1 is soooo jank)

[hardy flare]

they did well managing fort

[sharp sequoia]

the game did suffer from it thats the thing not enough updates in not enough time. it was like a month with no updates at all

[sharp sequoia]

ya because it cost money it also had no background unlike smash bros

[hardy flare]

i think epic would be greedy but they would keep content flowing

[sharp sequoia]

platform fighters need to have a beta or something so people can test it

ill always advocate for betas being open to the public. its the best way to get feed back and more

[sharp sequoia]

greedy? maybe. but fortnite is a big success cause of that. but anyways splitgate 2 comes out soon so hope it doesnt flop

[primal jay]

lol the fgc will say other wise

[sharp sequoia]

fortnite is prob the best game to come out logically.

[hardy flare]

split gate 2?

[sharp sequoia]

search it up

[harsh holly]

the nick games sold really well, the series is probably done for external reasons (gamemill is more interested in shooting shovelware in multiple directions than doubling down on franchises)

[sharp sequoia]

they havea good background LOL

[hardy flare]

i thought split gat was like warzon where there are no real characters

[harsh holly]

yeah netherealm makes fun games but I certainly wouldn't consider them a prevailing example of game balance

something something arkham dumpster

[limber onyx]

Fake, pfg pitched the idea to WB

[sharp sequoia]

i wouldnt diss netherrealm cause they are starting to tank. if i ahd to trust them or a company that never made a platform fighter before or a fighting game or even a game thats never been on pc and console id go with netherrealm

[primal jay]

The first one did but sadly the second didn’t sold well as the first

[hardy flare]

i didnt know it was a hero shooter

[harsh holly]

when was this stated? I'd love a source for future citation

[frail fern]

I started hating nether after MKX release and the netcode was atrocious

[hardy flare]

i think multiversus would have gone better if it was fully 2-d with sprites

[sharp sequoia]

never played comp for MK ever not until MK11 was on sale after MK1 dropped so i cant really speak about netcode or anything

[frail fern]

Also I did tower of might on majority of the cast and my gane corrupted. Was so pissed

[sharp sequoia]

but the corssovers and characters and the sotry was bpretty damn solid

[sharp sequoia]

that might be a you problem lol if you had it on disc thats 100% a disc problem,

[limber onyx]

Evidence in the data of the game suggests it was pitched to other companies, if nether realm was involved that would not be there.

[frail fern]

Steam

[harsh holly]

RIGHT

the other IPs they left in

[sharp sequoia]

they should have had more people

[limber onyx]

Also, this is this company’s first game now they’d get picked even second to nether realm

[hardy flare]

wait so they pitched to like disney and stuff??

[sharp sequoia]

like people tthats under netherrealm or other games that made fighters

[harsh holly]

funny the original character artist was disney infinity's art director. everything comes around

[limber onyx]

I doubt they expected it to get this big to WB honest

[limber onyx]

That’s what it suggests, but not confirmed

[hardy flare]

this sucks man i dont think we will ever get a cartoon network smash fighter

[sharp sequoia]

ya but they did so WB should have got other devs from different games. its not uncommon for things like that to happen

honestly a anime platform fighter would be dope as fck.

[hardy flare]

jump force was cool

[sharp sequoia]

or even a hero shooter for anime like marvel rivals

[sharp sequoia]

ya but it was alsoi really bad

cool i agree but i heard a lot of bad things about the game

[hardy flare]

i thought it was just not making enough money

[sharp sequoia]

i played a bit never got enough time out of it though

[harsh holly]

dont lose hope, plat fighters are really in nowadays so it's inevitable another team will pick up the mantle. Punch time felt like an impossible proposition in its time and that still released. these days this genre gets greenlit more often

[frail fern]

Tf2 gets more updates by the 1 part time coconut that codes than pfg gives us updates

[sharp sequoia]

got this from google "a combination of underwhelming gameplay mechanics, a lackluster story mode, poor character balancing, and a general sense of mediocrity despite its initial hype"

[hardy flare]

imagine a roblox smash

just without robloxs terrible net code

[sharp sequoia]

honestly the only game that i consider worth playing is mugan

you can get mods for all ur fav characters across all different universes.

CN, Nick, anime, marvel, dc, and more

[hardy flare]

"this is my IP to sit on and do nothing with"

[frail fern]

Just watch saltybets on twitch if you love mugen

[harsh holly]

mugen and rivals of aether both have popping modding scenes

[sharp sequoia]

ill be straight up. i never played it only a rip off on my phone LOL

that was years and years and years ago

[frail fern]

When you have the time, look up saltybets

He also has a website with twitch integration

[sharp sequoia]

mugen was a fan game wasnt it?

[frail fern]

Mugen is EVERYTHING

[sharp sequoia]

its a game engine my bad

[limber onyx]

The ds jump games were basically this, those were cool

[harsh holly]

mugen was released on a site called elecbytes decades ago (oldest vers was dated 1995) by anonymous developers. people think it was ex-KOF devs but the entire documentation for its script was in english so who really knows

[limber onyx]

WB is not a company that cares but true they could have

[frail fern]

It started with the old ronald mcdonald and burger king then devolved into a multiverse betting arena

I love mugen lore

[sharp sequoia]

i just want a open world anime game thats really open world. like imagine a hunter x hunter open world game and you start off meeting gon and killua they ask ur name and when they do you get sent into a customization menu

[harsh holly]

it was always meant to be something of an open source engine for fighting game content, it had characters from random fighting games off the bat and they planned to release the full source code but the developers vanished before ever making good on their promise

[frail fern]

Ew

[sharp sequoia]

wtf do you mean ew?

[frail fern]

I don't wanna be guided gon or killua, give me dudley

Or doflamingo

[sharp sequoia]

ok i thought you were gonna say my idea was bad 😭

but thats just a example. hunter x hunter open world game or a OP open world game would be dope af

[raven goblet]

Bungee gum intensifies behind you

[frail fern]

did you know bungee gum has the consistency of gum and rubber?

[sharp sequoia]

so many games that have a vast open world system with lore. like imagine a spin off game of the promised neverland where its a 5v1 or something with the demons trynna hunt the children and you gotta esacpe the farm

[sharp sequoia]

GOOOOONNNNNNNNNN

ill never forget that zesty ahh face he made

burned into my mind forever

i still cant get past the chimera ant arc its soooo slow

[raven goblet]

Don’t turn around but there’s a smiling menacing jester behind you who appears to have a rather large object in his pocket

[sharp sequoia]

is that object more in the middle rathert than the side?

👀

[raven goblet]

Its moving side to side and his pockets are not leaving anything to imagination

[sharp sequoia]

id just let him bruh i aint gonna run away

[native sapphire]

Hopefully s5 news tommorow 🤞

[frail fern]

Probably out of any character to get guided by I'd only choose Netero

[raven goblet]

🚩🛑🔍📸🚨🚔

[sharp sequoia]

did you hear about that MHA open world fan made game?

[frail fern]

I was about to mention the One Piece MMORPG that's still supposed to happen

[sharp sequoia]

i said no h0mo but it didnt let me LOL

[sharp sequoia]

ya MHA has a fan made game its in alpha rn its pretty sick tbh

[frail fern]

It honestly looked cool ah

[raven goblet]

Chat knows who you really are
You’re going down

[sharp sequoia]

if you boost the server you get access to stuff sooner but

[frail fern]

I only boost my friends servers now

[sharp sequoia]

hey i like my bro Hisoka'

[frail fern]

Gotta have them 500mb memes

[sharp sequoia]

i dont bother to boost servers or even buy nitro its a waste unless i need to upload files

[raven goblet]

We’ve lost another innocent to the clown Brigade…..

[sharp sequoia]

thats also crazy that ur a early supporter for discord howd you manage to keep ur account safe for this long LOL

[frail fern]

I do it when there's 1 left and it's that annoying urge to even it out

[high parcel]

Guys turn on CNN, Elon just bought PFG

[sharp sequoia]

1/10 bait

tiktok bot typa comment legit NPC

[frail fern]

Npc psychosis is real

[raven goblet]

Well CNN is WB so +3 for free advertising

[sharp sequoia]

dead internet theory is real im tellin ya

[raven goblet]

Lol it’s an epidemic

[frail fern]

It was blasted down upon us as covid did

Everyone lost track of everything

[sharp sequoia]

i dont wanna give my hard earned cash to discord

[worn ferry]

They give reindog so many skins ain't no one finna play that thing

[sharp sequoia]

they got rid of og nitro and now its horrible.

[sharp sequoia]

i see more and more poeple playin em

[raven goblet]

And now the remnants of those infected live among us

[frail fern]

True, they got discord simps and crypto scammers paying them

[high parcel]

Turn on Fox News, Barron Trump is playing Multiversus rn

[sharp sequoia]

i use to get salad ( cyrpto miner ) ony my pc and get discord nitro that way LOL

[sharp sequoia]

whe people talk about the dead internet theory they talkin about you buddy

[frail fern]

Becareful of some games now, some are crypto miners in disguise.

[raven goblet]

You’ve lost this round you might as well give it up

[frail fern]

Mrivals is a good crypto miner

[sharp sequoia]

idc i prob got a rat on my pc with how much stuff i downloaded

[raven goblet]

A rat💀

[frail fern]

Ifykyk

[sharp sequoia]

RAT ( remote access trojan )

[high parcel]

Guys turn on Multiversus oh wait no one is playing that hahahaha

[sharp sequoia]

no longer NPC i respect you now

[frail fern]

Rats now are scarier than before with new port forwards and entry/backdoors

[raven goblet]

I was literally imagining Master Splinter on your computer 💀

[frail fern]

Bonzi buddy could do that

[worn ferry]

When I'm in a "Give skins to our least popular characters" competition and my opponent is Multiversus

[sharp sequoia]

remote access trojan is when someone installs a trojan/ malware on ur computer and disguise itself as a different program lets say you install a cracked version of adobe. that thing runs in the background and while ur typing ur passwords or anything else it copys that to a note pad on someone elses computer also known as a keylogger

[solar field]

@raven goblet wanna run it?

[raven goblet]

We went from horses to rats
Evilusion

[sharp sequoia]

they can also access ur computer and go through all ur files 1 by 1 because its a back door. its legit like having a the backdoor unlocked in ur house while you have the front door lockked

[raven goblet]

Oh I know that one

[sharp sequoia]

kinda scary tbh. but i aint worried i got nothing to hide LOL

[frail fern]

They have visual of your screen, there's typically a keylogger involved with rats too.

[raven goblet]

I got 30 more minutes of enslavement left

[frail fern]

Only way to really know you have one is doing a reformat or de-rootkit

[sharp sequoia]

i never mentioned the screen visualizer thats my bad

[sharp sequoia]

they hide themsleves pretty well too. most anti viruses dont work against them

[worn ferry]

stop speaking hackers into existence I'm on a computer 😠

[sharp sequoia]

best way to know is if you use windows

[solar field]

Hahaha fair enough when you're off and if you play let me know or whatever if you want

[raven goblet]

All my outdated and buggy devices would be a virus in and of itself if someone tried to hack me lol

[raven goblet]

Ok

[frail fern]

With newer devices, they have access to camera and mic too, don't forget

[sharp sequoia]

not hard to hack into someones system through discord tbh or even BO2.adin ross had PH pulled up on his monitor cause someone ratted his pc through BO2s horrible anticheat

[sharp sequoia]

i aint worried if they wanna hear me say outragous shi they can

[raven goblet]

See that’s your problem your second was using taz

[frail fern]

They'll translate it to german and put you in a B&W photo frame

[sharp sequoia]

i dont think i ever installed a virus by accident tho. i did do it on purpose to see if it was or not

i could have a cypto miner on my pc tho but i aint worried worst comes to worst pc dont last as long

[frail fern]

Sometimes you could click a link on accident and bam