general

[raven goblet]

Yes

[high parcel]

It has come so far in the same way a crack addict has come so far after two years of addiction

Worse in every way

[sleek coyote]

naur. i liked him before i liked harley

[limber onyx]

She took over your mind

You don’t even know where she ends and you begin

[flat breach]

this looks like a job for..

[ionic swan]

Gonna hop back on in alittle

I am back Online for now

[celest herald]

Hi

[ionic swan]

If nothing tonight I do have the next few nights off

Hello sir 🗿

[celest herald]

Next few nights off huh

[raven goblet]

Are you

[ionic swan]

[raven goblet]

Freakazoid!

I’ve been pigging out so I don’t know

You can hear my oinks from here

How long was I gone?! Lol my Xbox completely turned off tv and everything

[ionic swan]

Same crew?

[raven goblet]

Is that banner in the pass

[ionic swan]

Farmed them

[ionic swan]

I picked it up with gleamium, I had extra

Its kool right?

Those guys we fought got farmed

[raven goblet]

I was trying to match

[raven goblet]

👨‍🌾

[ionic swan]

Discord is acting up like crazy

Brooo this match is gonna be campy as hell

[maiden locust]

I hit bronze 1 in rivals

[raven goblet]

Bro I just played with one hand lmao

[ionic swan]

Our strat is kinda crazy

[sleek coyote]

with jeff right?

[ionic swan]

Pause.

[raven goblet]

I’m not kidding I had my pasta in my hand eating 💀💀

[maiden locust]

I’m not great with him yet. Haven’t played him enough

[raven goblet]

We literally ate

[maiden locust]

Switchin’ between storm raccoon and scarlet.

[ionic swan]

That bugs was sooo desperate and it cost him

[raven goblet]

Greed is a sin

Lebron got cocky and was taunting like he was gonna win

[ionic swan]

🗿

[austere tree]

That was within the last 24 hrs?

[ionic swan]

Aight lets get em they are waiting before attacking, now we know we arent against people holding forward now

[raven goblet]

Can’t out spam garnet since she has armor

[ionic swan]

Im gonna lock hopefully

[raven goblet]

Stay back

This game lies so much

Garnet survived bugs safe Spike at 80 that’s literally impossible

Iron Giant and Jason doesn’t even survive it

[ionic swan]

Closr

Garnet needs defense nerf with how good she is offensively

Do we need Garnet mains screaming like animals on X at Ajax and NAKAT for them nerfing her tho? Lol

[raven goblet]

She’s been this way since beta

They won’t listen lol

[worn ferry]

Buff garnet

[sleek coyote]

BUFF GARNET

[worn ferry]

Omg hi Ino :p

[flat breach]

jeff pfp

I approve

[sleek coyote]

hiii 🫶🏽🫶🏽

[sleek coyote]

im best shork 🙂‍↕️

[worn ferry]

But yeah Garnet is already defense nerfed by having the worst dodge in the game

[ionic swan]

Oh they mad

Sec restroom break

[raven goblet]

Toxic Bugs does it every time

[ionic swan]

Velma/Bugs is complete stage control

[quaint jungle]

Hell no nerf garnet she OP

[ionic swan]

Garnet mains coping 24/7

[sleek coyote]

OMG OMG OMG I HAVE A CLIP OF THIS GARNET TODAY HOLD ON

[quaint jungle]

Garnet should be a tank

[raven goblet]

No shaggy was just dumb and so was raven
They have shields and never used them

[ionic swan]

The only reason I rarely shield with Velma, Is Im in the air 24/7

[worn ferry]

It's not a cope lmao if someone got you on the ropes you ain't dodging away. Velma main

[raven goblet]

They were on ground whole time lol
Did you see Raven jump over my projectiles like an idiot lmao

[ionic swan]

Yea

[worn ferry]

😮

[raven goblet]

Like girl you have 3 options and you chose the worst

[sleek coyote]

i didn’t play her, just dragged her by her hitbox

[worn ferry]

Oh I already guessed as much lmao

[ionic swan]

Tried to assist lol

Batman sniffing my neck

[raven goblet]

Big stage

[sleek coyote]

💀💀💀

[delicate kelp]

Garnet is fun to bully her #clips message

[ionic swan]

What was that nonesese so many of my moves hit them and did nothing

[river meteor]

Garnet used to be a tank with more armored attacks but was changed during the full launch

[ionic swan]

Like U saw my side B air hit the batman and he still kept going right and jabbed you

[raven goblet]

Handing them matches the game likes to do that when we play too good

[ionic swan]

PFG must of got wrecked by the forestFire

[raven goblet]

Lmao nah

[river meteor]

Y would you say that?

[thorny vale]

elusives are the new legendaries

[ionic swan]

Jack carry lol

[raven goblet]

Now they going through my attacks

[ionic swan]

Should we stop rank for now? Im seeing bad delay

Costing me interactions

[worn ferry]

Batman has the best polar vortex skin. Highly recommend snagging it even if you don't play him. His glide has a stars shining in the night effect with it.

[ionic swan]

I saw my attacks coming out so late

[coral quarry]

I'm really sick of fighting Samurai Jack tonight. He's been in almost every match up.

[worn ferry]

But I thought Jack needed buffs

[ionic swan]

Too much delay

[thorny vale]

spamurai

[ionic swan]

Cant win with the lag

[raven goblet]

Just block them

[thorny vale]

lol

[raven goblet]

That’s his new name

[ionic swan]

Shields will come out late too

[worn ferry]

I noticed that this morning. This game's net code been acting up. I know it ain't my internet cuz I switched to Spectrum.

[raven goblet]

No as in player block lol

[ionic swan]

Not sure if I even wanna grind rank with it like this

Jack can easily benefit off lag

[worn ferry]

Spamurai Wack ⚔️

[raven goblet]

The One Bar Spamurai Warrior

[ionic swan]

It feels like a 1 second delay for me at times

[coral quarry]

[raven goblet]

Felt

I’m not gonna say anything but 💪

[thorny vale]

dude i really hope im wrong but it seems legendary skins are just elusive now

like these events used to give you enough for 1 recolor and 1 legendary

now its just enough for elusives

wich is just exclusives spelled wrong why hide it

[ionic swan]

Bruh Did you see them coordinate to rush at me

[raven goblet]

That Rick was ass there’s no way they’re letting sorry players like that in masters it’s crazy

[ionic swan]

They tried atleast lol. One of them 100%, „Rush the Velma next round“

[raven goblet]

💀 and then you proceeded to clap them and they both run back to me

Brain dead strategies

[thorny vale]

ricks just up special most ive seen do that move so much

[ionic swan]

Coward way out

[raven goblet]

He was spamming Meseeks so we killed Jack

Crazy that g@n g b@ ng is censored

[thorny vale]

lol love team mates that dont help

[raven goblet]

Exactly

[ionic swan]

Reindog alert🚨🚨🚨

[raven goblet]

Delete

[ionic swan]

Lol

[raven goblet]

Dear Agent Smith we were wrong and we ask for your powers to delete Reindog from the mainframe

[raven goblet]

The fact that Batman tried to run and kill you in the middle of fighting me …..

Never turn your back on Bugs or it’s Bat season

[ionic swan]

Bruh the batman haha

He wanted to help the dog

[raven goblet]

This is going to be annoying …. Nubia and master Rick ….

[ionic swan]

Lawl they have a strat

Classic rick being the best in 2s

[raven goblet]

Cheese

[ionic swan]

Its cause Polymorph is broken

[raven goblet]

Run away and spam Nubia and get your van

[ionic swan]

K

[raven goblet]

Yea

We’re going to be cringe this round

[thorny vale]

did they make leveling up characters slower

[raven goblet]

Nubia somehow armoring through our projectiles

[ionic swan]

Ricks polymorph demands space sadly. Easy auto win nuetral

[raven goblet]

He was using portal so you can’t dodge he even glitched me inside the hole

[ionic swan]

Becsuse she aint as bad as the bronze players keep saying she is

Ricks a hard counter against us in some cases

[thorny vale]

nubia is slow but scary

[raven goblet]

She’s not even slow

[ionic swan]

Brush it Off I guess, its just a bad MU

[raven goblet]

She hits you once and combo to 60 near blast zone

[ionic swan]

Nubia has range she isnt bad

[thorny vale]

anyways did they slow down leveling up characters

[ionic swan]

Her grab with the spear shouldn’t be allowed to break shield, its not even a grab its a poke

[raven goblet]

Not really

[thorny vale]

feels horrible and im just trying to get nubia to lvl 4

[raven goblet]

She shouldn’t have a ranged air grab

[ionic swan]

Lawd her side B in twos

[raven goblet]

Ew

[thorny vale]

its for the stupid power pledge event

id rather be playing stripe

but this event is easier to speed through when you play characters you dont like

like daily challenges but atleast jason is a tank so im ok with that taz still having armour like a bruiser but being an assassin im still confused about

and gizmo is my go to mage i dont like bruisers there dumb and most of them are broken

if not all cause at one point almost all the bruisers were top tiers

[raven goblet]

Jack yelling at WW

[ionic swan]

Deserved TBag

[raven goblet]

“WHY DIDNT YOU SAVE ME”

Dumb ho focused on the wrong thing

[ionic swan]

Mashing Side B for the millionth time Like the germ he is

[raven goblet]

Lmfao 💀

[thorny vale]

i cant wait till you guys trash talk the wrong person in the server

thatll be interesting

[raven goblet]

?

[ionic swan]

What the heck

[coral quarry]

ugh, I just wanted to stop on a win, but can't have that tonight. the Spamurais just won't let me.

[ionic swan]

No way

[raven goblet]

I wanted you to get behind me so I could bait them

Lol that’s why I be taunting

[ionic swan]

Mb was try to seal it

[thorny vale]

everyone i play with stops playing and gets mad and its really annoying like people expect to pick up a game and be a pro

[coral quarry]

gettin' real sick of Bugs Bunny, too

[thorny vale]

i just want a duo

[raven goblet]

[thorny vale]

do you shield

[raven goblet]

Play with watch

[coral quarry]

I try, yeah

[ionic swan]

They werent suppose to win that though ngl, they werent playing that well but Jack needs a cooldown on the side B because the devs clearly dont know how to fix it

Move can still point blank projectiles and eat them

[thorny vale]

who do you play im guessing arya and if so thats your issue

[raven goblet]

WW got the kills after that first match she got smart and started being patient

Jack was being a toddler

[ionic swan]

Aware, but Jack is Jack

[raven goblet]

I usually ignore them

[ionic swan]

All the characters people say are bad end up being broken in some form lol

[raven goblet]

Yeap

[thorny vale]

cause people play them once then make an opinion

people will call fighters bad or good just on trailers

[coral quarry]

alright, ending tonight on a losing streak, because I'm just getting mad at the game now.

[thorny vale]

welcome to multiversus

[ionic swan]

Nubias such a pest in 2s

[thorny vale]

i dont have that issue cause they have stripe in the most brain dead state hes ever been in

[raven goblet]

Always get that van I’ll distract while you summon

[ionic swan]

I actually tried to

[raven goblet]

It will get better

[ionic swan]

They heard the noise and went Ape on me

[raven goblet]

You might have to do it at the edge

[raven goblet]

Lmao

[ionic swan]

I did once and it got canceled

[coral quarry]

I got up to Gold IV only to be knocked right back to Gold V. That's just my peak, I cannot climb higher than that.

[thorny vale]

also keep in mind this games balancing is stupid broken marceline exists

[ionic swan]

They are…..

[maiden locust]

Sailor Moon in season 5 multiversus?

[coral quarry]

The "I win now" elbow, indeed.

[raven goblet]

We can exploit their wild behaviors

[coral quarry]

Thanks. Maybe.

[raven goblet]

If it makes you feel better a master Arya is about to kill us

[ionic swan]

Plays in this game actually just hold forward and get greedy

[maiden locust]

Mooooooon Tiara Magic!!!!!!

[ionic swan]

Gonna be rough fight

[raven goblet]

I got Arya

[ionic swan]

Naa arya aint nothing, just Rick being the new Smith

[raven goblet]

Arya doesn’t want the smoke she’s literally avoiding it

[raven goblet]

Yea he can fight 2v1 and win

[ionic swan]

Having every tool under his belt and the devs not giving a rats tail

Atleast I clipped him while being the cheeze loaf he is

[raven goblet]

He gets 1 hit and it’s 0td

[raven goblet]

That was clean lmao

They need to make him twice as slow when he’s big and take double damage

[tiny portal]

I noticed that I lost the friends I had from season 2 does anyone know how I can fix that?

[raven goblet]

Demote this Harley

[ionic swan]

PFG actually needs to either buff us up or actually nerf rick alittle. He was never a bad character

[raven goblet]

Extreme aggression

[ionic swan]

Lul Harley hammer for the weak but here we are

[raven goblet]

Side special air garnet a lot

[ionic swan]

Hit me far behind her

Set it up

[raven goblet]

Eat

They’re gonna double down on spam

[ionic swan]

We the cheeze gods

[raven goblet]

That rat bestard purposely would make me lose matches as velma to demote me

He deserves to die a horribly painful death

And he thought it was funny too

[ionic swan]

Dam

[raven goblet]

I hope he’s crying and demoted

[ionic swan]

No clue also discord acting up rn

[raven goblet]

Imagine taunting then trying to run

[ionic swan]

They mad Im using the lip pop emote

[raven goblet]

Lol

[vernal pike]

I've =matched into the same batman 3 times now...

[ionic swan]

We did it boy

Ranked me up

[raven goblet]

They tried so hard

[ionic swan]

Its 2 Ima break for my brother

[raven goblet]

Same 💪

[ionic swan]

2am for me

[raven goblet]

Ok thank you for the matches

[ionic swan]

We can rank ur bugs later more

[raven goblet]

Even though you’re never online …….

[ionic swan]

Mb Earlier I dont see ur messages when Im in matches

[raven goblet]

My poor velma … I completely started over and passed her up

[ionic swan]

I play Games with my brother so

You can make her work, u should Support velma me when Aquaman comes

I been waiting on Aquaman for a minute

[raven goblet]

I’m not playing ranked next season

This was too much

[ionic swan]

I miss ur messages which is unintentional. It either doesnt notify me for some reason or Im busy at the moment

Im cool with casual matches

Also I think it‘s time to break the news a few figured it out already, yes AgentWhiff is my brother a few somehow found out…

Somehow they knew and will tell everyone

[raven goblet]

I never knew and probably would never have known

I only know his as the Neo hater

[ionic swan]

Some of his 2s partners figured it out in this discord

He be raging yes lol

[raven goblet]

He has stalkers

[ionic swan]

Then again, who doesnt have salty moments in this game

[vernal pike]

Preach dude lol

[raven goblet]

Every chance you get you need to send Neo gifs to him

[ionic swan]

Rn Marcy and Rick are my most hated rn

[raven goblet]

Wack and Whobia are up there

[ionic swan]

We are both duplicate Kens and we are Kenough

[sleek coyote]

wack?

[raven goblet]

President Barbienhiemer has denied your claim

[raven goblet]

Spamurai Wack from season 2

[ionic swan]

Dealing with Jack and Nubia big Hitbox while managing a team strategy is like trying to fold an origami while being attacked by a Gorilla

[raven goblet]

Magilla Gorilla at that

😏

Where is cicala when you need him

[ionic swan]

Cicala is a gentleman and a scholar. He wouldnt ever come into chat and say things to flip other user‘s anger receptors on in their brains.

Was kinda Giving him the perfect moment to show up and say something witty

[raven goblet]

Lmfao here’s never around at the right moment

[deep crescent]

The fact that streamers feel comfortable spamming is nuts to me, like you really let your audience know you're that bad?

[raven goblet]

Their audience encourages it “oh you’re so good bro you should go to tournaments give me a shoutout”

Disgusts me….

[ionic swan]

Their audience is generally the same exact way

Dont Ask HisMajesty about my Velma‘s MegaPhone

Me constantly trying to use it to give my ally space to set up

[raven goblet]

It’s not exactly spammable like say Jack slash

[ionic swan]

Its pretty punishable

[raven goblet]

Plus when we do it it’s ok 😌

[ionic swan]

Im doing it strategically atleast, its a bnb in twos for getting the opponents off the team

Or creating space

[raven goblet]

I do the same when I’m velma the problem is people don’t understand how she works and I end up chasing my teammate trying to buff him

[ionic swan]

I spam it on ur bugs also to pressure them into not Approaching because she gives you stripes dynamite. Yet the opponents are like, Naa „Hold Forward“

[ionic swan]

Yea I hate it when my allys run away from the megaphone

…. Worst feeling

Lebrons pretty godly with Velma as team

[raven goblet]

Worse is when you have to tell them to get hit by the words “oh I thought it was trying to hit the opponent”

People need to play others to see how they work or just be more aware

[ionic swan]

Bugs is probably one of the best velma ally though since you can burn ur skills, then I reduce their cooldowns

[raven goblet]

Well he can spam pie and I space out my stuff anyway

[ionic swan]

I think we are doing pretty good, you cant win em all, but we are ranking you up

[raven goblet]

This is the highest I’ve ever been

It’s poetic that it’s Bugs

[ionic swan]

Ill be on tomorrow night also for alittle

[raven goblet]

Like 5 minutes?

[ionic swan]

I think you can make bugs work

[ionic swan]

🗿

Im trying, my Job is demanding of me 🙃

[raven goblet]

You disappear for years at a time

[ionic swan]

I limited my mvs days to this time of the week

Its not the game more or less Im making money

We need to find you a decent second partner for 2s while Im away

[raven goblet]

Kek

The limit does not exist

[ionic swan]

Lets toss Agent Whiff in there, he can tear apart Gm when he needs to lul

His agent Smith rips on them

[raven goblet]

I’ll believe it when I see it

[ionic swan]

👺WildCard hates fighting him

[raven goblet]

Who

[ionic swan]

🗿

[raven goblet]

Joker?

[ionic swan]

Insert Jokers Maniac Laugh

[raven goblet]

Lol

[ionic swan]

About time for me to eat and go to sleep zzzzzzzzz

Looks like everyone else doing that

[raven goblet]

Lol yep

[sleek coyote]

feral Ino noises

[deep crescent]

I hope they absolutely gut assassin whiff immunity

[raven goblet]

The fact that you popped up while I typed in “Clowns” is crazy

Lunette, Koko, Pennywise, and Dr. Rockzo all in 1 season would be amazing

Imagine the banter between Joker and Harley

[coral quarry]

heh, I appreciate the sentiment.

[raven goblet]

She beat us

[coral quarry]

alas... You'll get her next time.

[worn ferry]

Enough time has passed. It's 2025 I'm done arguing. Give Taz his alpha Tornado back. 🫥

[unkempt tapir]

Can like someone help me there’s someone that will not stop pinging me and harassing me

[solar field]

I hate how shortened it is now

[unkempt tapir]

Yes he won’t stop pinging me in different channels saying weird things and that I’m his duo and he won’t stop deleting his messages

[sage elbow]

Are you mentally unwell dude?

[worn ferry]

Can't say that here the mods get pissy over mental health insults

[solar field]

Are the servers down right now?

[worn ferry]

Oof

[unkempt tapir]

Well at least you changed your name back

[worn ferry]

Valiant are you gonna be the new Lucy here? ( crazy person that annoyed everyone)

[delicate kelp]

Lucy rq from crash bandicoot server as well

[outer moss]

did they leave?

[unkempt tapir]

It’s not annoying it’s getting to be harassment

[worn ferry]

They got banned THANKFULLY. Couldn't stand they ass.

[solar field]

Are the servers for mvs down rn?

[latent bronze]

We see deleted messages btw

[sage elbow]

Not an insult, just a genuine question. I don’t know why he’s obsessed with that guy

[delicate kelp]

they are? I thought it was because of the shields

[outer moss]

what happened?

[worn ferry]

Dunno don't care just glad they're gone. I'm sure they overreacted to something and went on a tangent.

[solar field]

Was it that velma player?

[latent bronze]

Well hes gone now

[ionic swan]

Boy alot happened after I step our for a Sandwich

[delicate kelp]

.

[unkempt tapir]

Well im gonna go to bed goodnight guys

[delicate kelp]

Yeah thats why

[worn ferry]

Cya

[delicate kelp]

Gn

[solar field]

Is anyone else's multiversus not loading like normal at the sync account state

Mine's taking unusually long

[sage elbow]

It’s fine for me

[ionic swan]

Its been laggy for the past few days and the devs aknowledged it

Prob something happened to the servers lol

[solar field]

Ok thanks for answering yeah I wasn't really having trouble til just now when I'm trying to get in it's taking forever to load I don't know if I wanna sacrifice my rank by playing with this lag

[raven goblet]

Rare Tufus appearance

[raven goblet]

A master Arya she was running around hiding behind her partner

I hope we never meet

[mellow garden]

how’s this game doing

[sharp moon]

What happened

[ionic swan]

Prob more inappropriate talk

[coral quarry]

I would absolutely love to be able to just never fight against Shaggy.

Like, he's not just unbalanced, he's not just broken, he's not just an incredibly poorly designned character based on a meme from a decade ago: He genuinely makes every match he's in not fun.

See also: Banana Guard.

[delicate kelp]

Imo hes balanced honestly because if hes bad for these newbies they won't play the game at all. Just no more buffs please

Every season gets crazy buffs. Just stop

Jerry has been killed more than once.🤕

[spice horizon]

Bow down to your overlord Shaggy who isn't even using 1% of his power

[coral quarry]

He's the worst.

[spice horizon]

*the wurst

[coral quarry]

[spice horizon]

Hue

Bored at work at sheet shift

[sharp moon]

Deserved

[raven goblet]

Isn’t Jerry from Rick and Morty

[spice horizon]

Different jerry

[delicate kelp]

Jerry is gentleman

[night perch]

I'm so glad someone acknowledged that the shaggy meme is dead

It's been dead, no one finds it funny anymore

[coral quarry]

It's really not funny at all. Definitely not now.

[sage elbow]

I’d rather fight against shaggy than Batman tbh

Shaggy gets bodied by one simple system mechanic: shield

[deep crescent]

Conceding should require both parties to accept in duos

[delicate kelp]

Shaggy is fun ngl

[spice horizon]

Shaggy meme is hilarious

[sage elbow]

Agreed, shaggy is a patience check. A true whiff punish battle

[sage elbow]

Fr

[coral quarry]

Agree to disagree. He genuinely makes me want to quit playing.

[coral quarry]

But he never wiffs. His hitboxes are out there forever! (I'm exaggerating, but it feels like it sometimes.)

[delicate kelp]

"kick to win"

I've never seen his combos before its just kicks

[coral quarry]

And I am constantly hit with those kicks. And uppercuts. And ground pounds. And sandwiches from across the map.

[deep crescent]

The quicker an attack comes out the harder the whiff end lag should hit

[unreal gyro]

I hate Shaggy in this game, genuinely degraded the entire character of Shaggy for a joke that stopped being funny eons ago

[spice horizon]

You can shield it, you can parry it, you can neutral jump it

Shouldn't be that bad

[delicate kelp]

Its easy to understand his next moves

[worn ferry]

Shaggy is 100% not balanced his kit is designed like an assassin but w bruiser dmg. He can kill off stage super early and everything. He's a cold-blooded killer.

[worn ferry]

My thing is that joke is super niche and originated from a tumblr post about the scooby doo gang having super powers

[delicate kelp]

I mean for beginners in general. You also have the good point tho

You can see how they are enjoying kicking. So cute

[worn ferry]

Lol

[unreal tulip]

any zoinkers?

[spice horizon]

My fave is versing 2 shaggies
They often kick at the same time, like sharing a braincell

[gusty notch]

So is gem xp actually gonna matter when the rouge rift comes out (besides needing it to unlock the other difficulties)

Cuz if it did ppl could just grind out insanity with max gems

[sharp moon]

wtf is the point of doing rifts again?

[worthy turret]

events to unlock some free stuff

[sharp moon]

what free stuff

[worthy turret]

skins, emotes, etc

[unreal tulip]

It should, it should also make lower difficulty easier

[sharp moon]

what type of skins are from rifts

[gusty notch]

Ok good I was worried I was grinding gems for no reason lmao

[unreal tulip]

New rifts are accompanied by an event with the event currency in it

[worthy turret]

whatever the currrnt event is, the winter one has a shop gor tokens u can earn from stuff

changes with whatever event is active

[night perch]

Garnet dance:

[quiet shard]

@toxic linden @toxic linden @toxic linden @toxic linden

[rain tapir]

dissapointing

[river meteor]

You think that Shaggy should have moves based more on his series? Vsvthe ultra instinct meme?

[night perch]

Yes

I thought he would have clumsy based moves

Like Isabelle from smash

[river meteor]

That'd be cool, and interesting to see how PFG would design his kit. however I think the game was built around Shaggy & the ultra instinct meme he's kinda the linchpin of the game

[tepid kindle]

Never noticed before but in Harley's side special and idle animation she uses what seems to be a cork gun... That fires a boxing glove projectile

[sick ocean]

i mean, wasnt the beginner char changed from shaggy to ww anyways?

[tepid kindle]

Woulda been nice to have a more faithful Shaggy

[sick ocean]

well of course, have you never done such a thing?

[tepid kindle]

I've never stuffed a boxing glove into a cork gun

If that's what you're asking

[sick ocean]

well then you cant be judging her for doing it

[spice horizon]

I don't think the rogue rift will use your gems, it has its own modifiers

[river meteor]

Both Shaggy & WW were made as beginning characters

[tepid kindle]

I'm not judging I'm just very confused that her weapon does not abide by the conventions of space. Maybe it's like one of those tiny clown cars but in gun form.

I guess I never looked close enough to notice it isn't an overt boxing glove gun like the Joker uses in Mortal Kombat 11

[sick ocean]

i mean the title of tutorial char was changed eventually to ww

[sick ocean]

exactly

[river meteor]

Even if ww is in the tutorial Shaggy is who the game is balanced around

[kind jolt]

1. Five Starter Characters of different Classes
2. Fighter Road takes the same amount per character (3-5 hours)
3. Newest characters take longer to unlock, newest character takes 10-15 hours to unlock
4. No pay to play model for the first week.
5. You choose who to unlock at all times

[spice horizon]

1. Free roster
   Done

[sick ocean]

i would not say they balance around him, especially considering how poor the balancing is on him

[sick ocean]

wdym 5 of diff classes, that 15 @_@

[river meteor]

Yeah support class no longer exist

[kind jolt]

They really do need money and thers nothing wrong with that, especialy if they kept the unlock how it is where it only takes 5ish hours to unlock a character

[kind jolt]

5 characters, with class variety.

Not each one being a different class

It shouldnt be one per class in every class if Shaggy is the rep

Maybe something like

Shaggy, Batman
Jason
Harley
Bugs

[sharp moon]

Joker is good

[atomic flicker]

except the fighter road is grindy, seriously just unlock the roster and focus on selling skins, Marcel Rivals having insane player retention shows this

[worn ferry]

Thinking about MV voicelines and Taz seems to mostly respond to DC characters which makes sense because one of his biggest hobbies in Taz-mania was reading/collecting comic books. Whoever did their research for Taz really knew their stuff. I'm guessing it was Jim Cummings pitching ideas tbh because the development for other characters in this game is uh a little more desired. Garnet and Steven in particular might as well be OCs in MV comic.

Like in the comics someone gives Steven a mission to make some advance technology and it's like bro....He's like 11 and never been to school.

But he can just make super advanced technology in the comics because reasons I guess

[sharp moon]

Batman who laughs voicelines have been bugged since day 1 why hasn't this ever been fixed It feels like they removed some of them too

[kind jolt]

It's not grindy if you are allowed to unlock anyone you wanted

5 hours for a character is quite minimal

[spice horizon]

This isn't the way to make money

Have a better BP and sell skins

Even if you locked the roster:
Much simpler to have the old system but give 50-60 FC per game

Case solved, no more convoluted grind wall garbage

And agreed
1 char per role should be free from the start if they gonna keep requiring roles for missions

[worn ferry]

garnet lost some voicelines in response to taz I know for sure

[grave umbra]

"I will get you back marsupial"

[kind jolt]

BP was free on launch so I would bet it makes a lot less money than it could be

[night perch]

I don't think they want to remove fighter road

Like I said before it seems like a way to artificially stabilize the player counts

[spice horizon]

How does this garbage stabilize anything but the UV bag in the game's ER

[night perch]

The amount of grind takes in this game just feels like a way to keep people to play the game

This game is objectively busted so having people grind it prevents the player accounts from looking steep

[fluid chasm]

Miku day tomorrow

[spice horizon]

Ppl will just see the mountain to climb that's ahead of em and quit

Esp new ones

[unreal tulip]

I know... you too miss the zoinkers guy

[night perch]

Also Jason's win animation was censored

Which is very strange. Because Beetlejuice getting eaten by a worm is okay I guess

[unreal tulip]

I honestly think it's a visual glitch, like Velma book or Marvin flag at times

[night perch]

They removed an entire bag I don't think that's a bug

[unreal tulip]

Gizmo is also missing pop corn in his victory pose, he had it in the beta

he launched it up and into his mouth, but now it's invisible.

[light badge]

He did?

[elder chasm]

This game so trash it's embarrassing 😭

[elder chasm]

The hot fix made the game so laggy
I'm losing non stop

[light badge]

I’ve been using the Christmas skin for too long to even notice (he has a different win screen)

[unreal tulip]

it must be tied to the new post-game screen.
sometimes it causes some desyncs, like on Stripe bike or Shaggy sausages.

[night perch]

The battle pass sucks

[unreal tulip]

I had a bug report back then, who knows if it's stil there

[elder chasm]

I can't counter dodge or anything
This game is so bad like I want it to succeed but I can't even ENJOY THE GAME

Maybe the haters were right the devs DON'T CARE

[elder chasm]

They made the grind worse
Bp worse
Elusives
Laggy gameplay
A promise for a "REVAMPED" GAMEPLAY EVERY SEASON
EMPTY PROMISES

[unreal tulip]

maybe you are embarassing : )

Just kidding, but why did you reply to me specifically?

[worn ferry]

And here's where I'd buy a polar vortex skin for my mains. 😄 IF THEY HAD ONE!

[rain tapir]

less zoinks more jinkies

[worn ferry]

jankeys

[elder chasm]

Cause it's another isuue

[worn ferry]

that's how I view all Velma mains just jankeys

[elder chasm]

These devs know how to monetize stuff but not how to fix the fricking game
Greddy scummy
And don't get me started on the roster

[analog dock]

marcel rivals lol

[night perch]

Ill do you one better

Characters seem to get shadow buffs and shadow nerfs.

Ranked is filled with people using 2 combos or tricks on a character to climb rank.

PFG doesn't automatically convert event currency into prestige points, you have to contact them.

Battle Pass characters are made to be incredibly easy to win with and don't get nerfed significantly until after the season they're in ends. And that's if you're lucky.

Certain characters receive constant buffs yet no/little/insignificant nerfs.

Some characters have 0TDs that have been known for months, but haven't been patched.

The way RP is given is incredibly inconsistent. Sometimes you lose RP even if the person concedes.

Some character badges are locked behind the battle pass, when they should be given by leveling the character up instead, that way there's more space in the battle pass for actual cosmetics.

Bundles seem cobbled together with no rhyme or reason.

The battle pass also seems cobbled together, as if they have a punch of banners and stats and perks on the back burner to throw into the battle pass later.

Sometimes hits don't register

The game will freeze occasionally

[worn ferry]

Like Z-Z-Z-Z-Zapdos Scoob

[analog dock]

im not reading all that

[kind jolt]

The only good ranked systems are non random ones

[elder chasm]

Fr and the lag is still here after almost a year this is unacceptable

[kind jolt]

This game funnily enough feels like it has balancing more suited for traditional fighting games not a plat fighter

[unreal tulip]

any jinkiers?

[elder chasm]

Ppg have very BRAINDEAD ZTD

[kind jolt]

Learning 2 BNB combos then climbing ranks is the epitome of 2d fighting games

[sleek coyote]

JINKIES

[sick ocean]

less jinkies, more confetti

[sick ocean]

i mean, its better when neutral and footsies are played, but mvs players call it camping and then shark the wall for 8 minutes

[night perch]

TLDR the game is flawed, they lied about prestige points, characters are overpowered and are never nerfed

And running the whole game is never punished

I swear this whole game is just dashing

[unreal tulip]

why does everyone want to coerce me to their cause? XD
I'm breaking free!
Less confetti, more chainsaws!

[sick ocean]

nerf stripe fr this time

everytime i hear abt him, ppl say he got nerfed its joever, then not even touched, and somehow he's top tier again

[elder chasm]

The game rewards camping too

Rewards spammy characters

Punishes risk taking

[unreal tulip]

sure, it wouldn't stop me from playing him : )
(but I still want them to buff down tilt to make it a dodge or just move away from the stereo quicker)
then again WW nerf is longer overdue

[night perch]

Exactly

[frigid totem]

Fr

[sharp moon]

Me with jokers acid

[elder chasm]

Ppg specifically
5 moves I'm dead

[elder chasm]

Joker is not what he used to be

[sick ocean]

ok tbh i dont quite see this much, its more like some ppl dont know how to deal with camping, some chars use projectiles fair, but ive seen this game reward 1 jab more than running away

[sharp moon]

God steven is ANNOYING steven on a team with ppg is gross

[unreal tulip]

I honestly am relieved when I fight a spammer, I know exactly what they are gonna do every single time

[sharp moon]

or nubia

[frigid totem]

Interesting ,I'd say shaggy does that the most

[sharp moon]

We can play in a bit if you want

[frigid totem]

I hate her

[sick ocean]

i mean, he has skateboard, when do i contest?

[sharp moon]

"I AM NUBIA!!!, TO BATTLE!!!!"

[unreal tulip]

I might not be home later, I'll let you know : )

[elder chasm]

I AM NUBIA

[sharp moon]

alr

[unreal tulip]

[sick ocean]

tell me, when?

[night perch]

He means running the whole game, waiting for you to miss, and then dashing in to use 2-3 moves

Shaggy is ESPECIALLY guilty of this.

[unreal tulip]

dodge through it

[rain tapir]

i have been summoned

[sick ocean]

yeah, but 1, sheilds, 2 parries, 3 you have that option too, it really is at most annoying that they do it, but if they're running away like that, they generally suck at doing even that

like, if somene camps u, get a lick of dmg, even 3, go to the otherside of the stage, and stay there, not every1 will ofc, but im petty so i do this all the time

[sleek coyote]

immediately no

[night perch]

Oh my god it's not that EASY

[rain tapir]

you will mirror my velma

[sleek coyote]

i thought that said marry 😂

[rain tapir]

well go ahead, marry my velma

[unreal tulip]

or you could marry my Stripe

[sleek coyote]

i wont marry him but i will take a pet!!! harley having a pet gremlin just makes sense

[sick ocean]

it isn't but every1 says the game rewards it when the answers are right there, it rlly is just annoying, and even losing to it isn't uncommon or stupid, but there are answers

[night perch]

Parrying isn't easy,
Shieldbreaker moves
Not to mention that person will probably just wait for your shield to run out

They just wait for you to mess up

For example a shaggy will go Super Saiyan while they're using your shield but if you try to go over to him he will start spamming again

[grim yew]

I honestly feel like doing that and jabbing is more dangerous than using projectiles. Shaggy is the most notorious, but Finn and Batman are pretty obnoxious with that strategy too. Having awesome speed with low recovery jabs is kind of insane for that reason. Marcy is a warcrime, but at least her jab has some whiff. Jabs lead to the best conversions too, so having to rely on parries against that sort of thing is inherently very risky... I honestly just think it's a balancing issue that should be adressed

[sick ocean]

well yeah, if there weren't counters everyone would just do them bc they dont hv to worry abt anything else, also, no1 said shield and stay there, you can walk forward, bc they will prob award u that space

[analog dock]

does it get punished in any platform fighter honestly

[rain tapir]

punished? no but it doesnt get rewarded nearly as much (except for brawlhalla then, thats even worse then mvs somehow)

[sick ocean]

i mean how would u balance ppl playing a campy play pattern? bc it is entirely beatable, but literally no1 knows how to use shields, dodging is essentially all ppl do sometimes, and like, we hv to seriously make a distinction for camping at times, cz some ppl just say camping when their opponent turns their back on them once, and if they are clearly camping, then work to overcome it, cz this is seriously a community issue of not wanting to do anything but that

[fluid chasm]

what you mean by the way

[night perch]

But it's one thing among a terrible list of bad gameplay mechanics,

Every hit stuns

[analog dock]

thats true, this game does reward running around a lot

[atomic flicker]

Camping in platform fighters in general

[fluid chasm]

for me it depends on the character

[sick ocean]

thats. how. hitstun. works.
please for the love of anything just let hitstun live, its an essential mechanic for fighting games as a whole

[worn ferry]

no thats why platforms fighters are considered for kids

[night perch]

I know people in smash bros camp

[kind jolt]

A lot of people think resetting to neutral is camping

[night perch]

But at least you knock them back after every hit

With hitstun spamming is so much worse

[worn ferry]

sidescroll fighters require ya know actual fighting and punish camping

[fluid chasm]

some characters do not everyone I'll give them that

[sick ocean]

SMASH HAS HITSTUN TOO

[fluid chasm]

SMASH HAS BETTER TECHING

[sick ocean]

nobody mentioned teching

[night perch]

But does it stun after EVERY HIT EVERY SINGLE ONE
YOU ARE STUNNED IN THIS GAME FOR 1.5 SECONDS

For every jab

[fluid chasm]

I just wanted to say that :3

[kind jolt]

Which Jab in Smash puts you into a 8 second true combo 😭

[sick ocean]

fun fact, thats hitstun, thats what hitstun is, thats what it means

[sick ocean]

silly goober, nows not the time

[night perch]

So you don't see an issue with being stunned for that long

[fluid chasm]

:c

[somber cairn]

hi

[grim yew]

I'd balance it by making sure characters have weaknesses. Look at Shaggy, he has awesome speed and damage... why does he also have absolutely insane hitboxes, high KO even on stray hits and lives for SO long then? Why is his jab the fastest it can be, at 9 frames? Why does it lead into his best conversions? If jab didn't have so much reward, if jab wasn't so safe, if he wasn't as fast, if he didn't live FOREVER, if his damage wasn't the best or if he needed a good conversion for a KO, it wouldn't be a problem. Just touch any of those things and it's more balanced lol, the problem is that he has EVERYTHING

[sick ocean]

i do for the amount, ive mentioned it many times, but hitstun isnt the problem, its the amount of it

[somber cairn]

im jeikdjaa

[kind jolt]

you're right but you know what people mean lol

If the community critique is the hitstun is bad then the devs won't just put all hitstun levels to 0

[worn ferry]

smash is riddled w camping and every character does it

[sick ocean]

he is just like that, and thats just an issue of mvs as a whole, not forcing camping either way, also, jab is not safe on shield thankfully, so playing grounded might help, but no1 ever thinks of trying to enforce counterplay to anything, which sux when a char could be fine

[kind jolt]

Is Jake Min Min?

[sick ocean]

im scared they might cz god @0@

[fluid chasm]

what dr.mario camps

[sick ocean]

literally every1 camps bc the game has evolved to 1 good hit and u might die, but the game is so safe that u just can

[sick ocean]

what doctor mario has the luxury to be allowed to camp rlly

[fluid chasm]

exactly

[night perch]

So you can see that it's a very big issue. Not to mention dashing which allows you to get into a jab combo again

[fluid chasm]

no doc player will even get a chance to do that he's more fun if you play aggressive

[night perch]

The fact that you are stunned for that long just makes this game abysmal

[sick ocean]

he literally can, but every1 would just be better anyways, also, just bc a low tier doesnt camp doesnt mean mid tier and above wouldnt

[sleek coyote]

[sick ocean]

its a unique issue not to hitstun but ofc pfg

[fluid chasm]

cough cough sonic

[kind jolt]

please please you shouldnt be able to turn around in jabs

[worn ferry]

LOL are you serious? Marios spam pill camp until you make a mistake and move in yall really don't get what camping is. camping isn't just staying in one spot all game

[sick ocean]

what abt him? he's not even the best camper

[sick ocean]

THIS

[sick ocean]

no, its cz he's stubby and slow, its him approaching rlly

[fluid chasm]

not best camper but any hit and run can be very cancer plus remember sonix times out constantly with him now since 2020

[night perch]

That's why I say running usually

But typically people in this game run back and forth on one side of the map and wait for you to come in

[grim yew]

He is just like that but he shouldn't be lol. It might not be safe on shield, but it's hard to interrupt or avoid too, even with a shield breaker. The risk-reward is just too skewed on that direction, unfortunately. And please not, some people are THAT patient, I've played against Masters who literally just would not press a button until I did, followed by an instant dash jab conversion that is also really safe on whiff... it's not like it can't be overcome, but it's such an insufferable playstyle, and you see it all the way to the top levels of play (BrianYi comes to mind). I just don't think that should be rewarded in gameplay.

[sick ocean]

yeah thats the best way to play sonic rn, and thats the ssbu direction

[grim yew]

Like, my whole point is that there should be MORE counterplay lol

[fluid chasm]

we can both agree sonic f smash needs to be studied

[grim yew]

That would be a huge and honestly probably a good change

[fluid chasm]

that move has so much priority its funny

[sick ocean]

shaggy is just skewed terribly tbh, and i just hope he gets fixed

[sick ocean]

who would win, darkest lariat, or sonic f smash?

[grim yew]

We all do 😭

[unreal tulip]

I say they should add a wee bit of lag when you change direction running, like Sonic screeching on the ground : )
Would make add some commitment to movement

[fluid chasm]

that's a good question

[kind jolt]

I guess a character built around a meme was a bad idea

[fluid chasm]

that's not even shaggy anymore

[sick ocean]

he couldve been fine, but he just hits so hard

[sick ocean]

[grim yew]

Honestly yeah. I remember being so excited for him in the alpha test, but then I saw his moveset and it's like "he punches and kicks!"

[night perch]

And honestly it sucks because they think they're really funny making these characters overpowered it feels like

[grim yew]

He doesn't feel like Shaggy at all, and he also doesn't feel like a powerful skilled Bruce Lee level fighter lol

[kind jolt]

Im so excited for Shaggy to get a Fox shine in the next patch

[night perch]

He was never a fighter

[kind jolt]

every character should be balanced around the most average character in the game rn, that being Wonder Woman.

🙏

[night perch]

I hate WW

[worn ferry]

Oh god the Batman vs Lebron match up is bad like real bad and huge in Lebron's favor.

[sick ocean]

bro she is not average at all

[night perch]

I hate LeBron even more

[sick ocean]

she truly is a wonder, my god

[kind jolt]

Theres a reason why Nakat is a top Smash player and you arent

[night perch]

Not only because he feels like a corporate mandate, but because he's annoying

I hate his stupid basketball related voice lines, I hate his emotes. I hate that he looks like he's supposed to be in a NBA mobile game 😭

[fluid chasm]

what does that mean

[kind jolt]

https://youtu.be/TE4FJVRx4H0?si=-WL7HLzUCTMBvR0J

[sick ocean]

...it literally doesnt even matter, wdym shes average, the high end shows rick with 0tds and low end shows jack with 0 kill power, how is she the middle ground?

[fluid chasm]

if its a rick roll I'm killing you

[kind jolt]

lol

[sick ocean]

also aint no1 give a damn abt brawl

[kind jolt]

nah you're tripping smash brawl is goated

[night perch]

What the hell are you talking about

[fluid chasm]

brawl is ass besides subspace

[limber onyx]

Literally the most hated smash bros competitively

[night perch]

Brawl is the smash that's the most modded,

[fluid chasm]

ultimate

[limber onyx]

Not even close

[sick ocean]

alr, ig go watch sharking meta knight vs grab fishing icy championships

[kind jolt]

🤣

[limber onyx]

I like brawl though

[fluid chasm]

we love chain grabbing huh

[sick ocean]

sm4sh*
the final yr pushed ppl over the edge

[fluid chasm]

brawl isn't a good game its just mid

[night perch]

I remember the screams of Geno fans

[worn ferry]

bait used to be belieavable

[limber onyx]

Still no but probably close

[sick ocean]

not even what i mean, evo i believe had 2 bayos charging neutral b as neutral, that was not a nice time

[night perch]

I played Bayonetta

[limber onyx]

Admittedly I stopped paying attention to the competitive scene before that though

[night perch]

Mainly because I like Bayonetta

[kind jolt]

Bayo looks fun in any game

[worn ferry]

Brawl is the best version of smash even w tripping and metaknight

[sick ocean]

i get that brawl being slow and campy was awful, but u could do things, if u didnt know bayo counterplay, u could not play sm4sh competitively

[fluid chasm]

lmao you tripping

the game is chaingrab hell

[limber onyx]

You forget about meta knight?

[sick ocean]

ult bayo better imo, i think witch strike is goated

[kind jolt]

surprised people here are old enough for smash brawl

[grim yew]

It would be fun to see that expressed tho lol

[kind jolt]

I think so too

[worn ferry]

LOL maybe don't sit still and shield all game its ppl like you that made smash ultimate so damn boring. Smash Ultimate has ASS grabs

No wonder you don't like brawl imagine letting ppl grab u lmao

[sick ocean]

he was ass to fight but at least the gameplay was slow not out of the fault of the players

[limber onyx]

But anyway I’m just old enough to remember brawl I think

[fluid chasm]

🫥 brawl ganon already is enough to make the game ass

6 pikmin olimar

[limber onyx]

It ain’t comparable to smash 4 hate

[worn ferry]

all of that was fun

[sick ocean]

yeah u forget movement nerfs in general, no combos, slow everything

[fluid chasm]

his tether doesn't even work

[sick ocean]

dedede chain grabs

[fluid chasm]

wario peach chain grab

ice climber wobble

yeah brawl such a good game huh

[sick ocean]

pt stamina

[fluid chasm]

bruh I hated that

[worn ferry]

Smash works better slower plus everyone had combos even ness and lucas

Yoshi had ridiculous combos in brawl

[fluid chasm]

they have combos in ultimate as well what are you trying to say

[worn ferry]

read I can't baby u

but man brawl was so fun so many cool glitchy stuff you could do like the wavedashing squirtle got

lucas also had psi magnet wavedashing that was the best

[sick ocean]

yeah whos playing most chars when chain grabs exist or meta knight or wobbling?

also circle camping is sooooooooooooooooo common

[worn ferry]

dk could carry you offstage and you throw you under final destination for a funny kill man I miss brawl

[fluid chasm]

you can do that in ultimate you know

literally little z jump meme

[sick ocean]

go back, truly, but we aint lying to ourselves abt it being a good game especially not competitively

[worn ferry]

he can't throw you under the stage the way he could in brawl he can throw you really far under like it's confirmed kills

[fluid chasm]

cargo throw into fair kills at 40

dk in brawl was terrible compared to later games

especially that garbage dash attack

[limber onyx]

I still like brawl anyway, I’m super causal

[worn ferry]

ppl aren't dumb enough to fall for dk fair off stage anymore the game is old now Emperor

[fluid chasm]

its more of a read but it still works

ppl still fall for kirby inhale footstool

[severe wyvern]

oh lord

not people thinking Garnet needs to be buffed...

[lone trench]

Yes she does

[fluid chasm]

hell no

[severe wyvern]

noooooo

[lone trench]

She gets punished for stufff too much

They need to reduce her cooldowns too

[ionic swan]

After a Garnet‘s upair hitting me while I was inside the blast zone above her to avoid an attack last night. I can say with certainty. Garnet can go back to her old days

[severe wyvern]

well lets not get carried away

[lone trench]

Sidespecial off cooldown(elbow) needs more hitstun

[severe wyvern]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????

[fluid chasm]

🫥

[lone trench]

Sair should be true follow up. I wonder why they removed it

[sick ocean]

yooo, funny joke man

[proven cloak]

Garnet buff💔

[fluid chasm]

demo got high again

[severe wyvern]

sair is still a true follow up

[ionic swan]

If Garnet gets a buff they should remove Taz tornado cooldown while they‘re at it. The devs want to let characters like Jack and Marcy spam the same huge moves but Taz gotta go on cooldown.

[lone trench]

Bro garnet got butchered by shields

[sick ocean]

just hope he's joking, it helps

[severe wyvern]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sick ocean]

what are you talking abt, wasnt the whole issue with her that she had no whiff? 😭

[fluid chasm]

this is what happened when you play nubia for too long you turn insane

[lone trench]

Oh my bad then. I must have gotten confused, make sair hit into sidespecial. I doesn’t work like it used to

[severe wyvern]

it still works like it used to

[ionic swan]

Some opinions arent meant to be taken serious in this discord 🗿

[lone trench]

So you can still do sidespecial - sair - sidespecial????

[sick ocean]

most*

[severe wyvern]

yes

[lone trench]

They always get to dodge or I might be inputting it late

[severe wyvern]

so let me tell you something. Garnet players dont lab

[sick ocean]

do they need to

[severe wyvern]

yes

[sick ocean]

she seems fine without it

[severe wyvern]

trust me if you play mine, you'll know she's busted

[coarse lantern]

nah i didn't knew stripe was this fun

[sick ocean]

i dont need to play any1 to look at garnet wdym

[lone trench]

If u wanna master her sure but garnet is one of the few character where you can cook without having to practise

But learning her 0td strings is also very important ig

[sick ocean]

i beat helseth with her like wdym 😭

shes so ez to play well with, labbing her would make her an absolute

[lone trench]

Yea she has one of the lowest skill floor if imma be real

[severe wyvern]

and I lab with her so...

I literally did a 3 hour stream talking about the character and it turned into me finding new stuff with her

[worn ferry]

Garnet overhypers stop auto dodging the moment you get knocked back so you don't run into her punches challenge impossible garnet isn't as good as yall think you just have poor dodge management

I use to get gimped by garnet as taz back when I was bad at dodging too then I realized to stop letting her read my dodges and it was easy after that

[severe wyvern]

she is as good

[ionic swan]

Garnet op

[severe wyvern]

they dont know WHY she is good

[worn ferry]

Dodge better😌

[severe wyvern]

and neither do Garnet players

[worn ferry]

OK educate us then Edboy since you're so smart

[ionic swan]

Dodge attacks the size of a skyscraper

[severe wyvern]

I did a whole stream about it

and I can do one again

I aint typing me explaining this

[sick ocean]

Yeah I saw the combo

[worn ferry]

with the attack and dodge speed of a turtle. You can quite literally run circles around a garnet w proper spacing

[ionic swan]

Sure I can. In a 1v1.

My balance mindset rn is set on 2s because that‘s how the game should be

[sick ocean]

I feel like she resembles harley to a lesser degree tho, just because she is very powerful I what seems to be most situations, ofc she's slower and a bigger body, making her not as good as harley in that same regard, but does it even end up mattering?

[ionic swan]

Garnet becomes alot more lethal when an ally is in the mix

[worn ferry]

As a Taz main with 2 very good armor break attacks, yes. Yes it does.

I eat garnets for breakfast as Taz especially w shields now they can't even nair spam approach

[severe wyvern]

this is also true. the sleeper team is Garnet Raven

[ionic swan]

Yes Nair isnt as much a problem but now we can also see the other attacks she has that are an issue

[worn ferry]

I only play 2s. Garnet is not a big deal

[severe wyvern]

lol

[worn ferry]

She's slow and predictable even w a partner helping her approach

[severe wyvern]

LOL

the players are slow and predictable

[ionic swan]

Bad garnets must mean the character is bad

[severe wyvern]

the average MVS player hasnt adapted to shields

ofcourse Garnets are gonna press nair on shield

[unreal tulip]

I still have to rely on rifts to finish the shield break quests

[severe wyvern]

it was punishable before the whiff nerf too

[ionic swan]

Give garnets some more time it‘s gonna be disgusting the more time passes with her

[worn ferry]

idk what to tell yall. Sure garnet's got some good dmg but I've always considered them easy DAIR bait

[sharp moon]

How many of you use shield break in 2s

[ionic swan]

Taz is good mu against her is all I can say

[severe wyvern]

me

[worn ferry]

I use it all the time

[limber onyx]

I’ve seen like less than 20 people use shields in 2s

[ionic swan]

I use them if the opponents actually shield, which they dont lol

[ionic swan]

Shielding in twos depending on what your going for can be a bad thing

[worn ferry]

I play a lot of arena mode which has bots so I'm use to shielding and breaking shields at this point

[limber onyx]

Yeah, it’s not the best idea most of the time

[ionic swan]

If your ally is a Mage, shielding up front could be a good thing

I absolutely love it when my ally shields while I keep megaphoning them

Makes them a bomb

Velma can also Jab into Grab so I dont often need to shield break

[worn ferry]

shields suck for actual defending anything more than 1 second because they drain dodge meter which is overkill imo when we already have a shield break button in the first place???

[sick ocean]

I don't think armor break is even that relevant in that mu tbh, but maybe garnet r using armor more now (impossible)

[worn ferry]

If shields didn't feel like such a glass canon I feel like the game would be in a better state

[sick ocean]

Can I fight you anyways, would be nice to get destroyed by garnet ig

[severe wyvern]

sure

[sick ocean]

I agree shields have issue, but drain is not it

[lone trench]

Garnet ain’t good no more

[ionic swan]

They made the stamina drain faster on them because all the players crying saying it would cause stall. Clearly it hasnt

[sick ocean]

Alr, just gonna open my laptop

[worn ferry]

I agree. She gets slammed hard in 2s

Clap and ed keep thinking a cracked garnet can just do whatever they want in 2s lmao

very opposite of the case

[ionic swan]

Garnet Craaaaaacked

[lone trench]

I even beat the #1 garnet like a couple weeks ago

She’s such a bad character

[ionic swan]

Big Johnson crying bout shields

[lone trench]

A lot of characters got trash against shields. Who does Johnson play?

[ionic swan]

Big Johnson is…..is the best Garnet Player.

[severe wyvern]

Marvel Rivals

when you start saying Garnet is trash vs shields thats when I know youre dealing with people who are mindlessly pressing nair on shield

[lone trench]

But I’ve only fought garnets who stay in the air. I would like to fight a garnet who plays grounded

Maybe it will be different

[worn ferry]

If Garnet was busted in 2s I'd be playing her more often. The truth of the matter is she's like batman ie WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better in 1s.

[sick ocean]

booting up, my ign is CatTired

[kind lantern]

best is a strong word

he plays garnet!

[worn ferry]

unsurprisingly garnet can't do her set ups when enemy teammate is hitting her all the time

[lone trench]

Yea. I haven’t fought any that doesn’t nair or wake-up nair

[ionic swan]

Did he not Prove himself? Lol

[severe wyvern]

what am I making the lobby

[sick ocean]

are you not? damn, ig im nothing to royalty

[ionic swan]

I mean unless Johnson Quit Garnet for someone else sure I can see it

[lone trench]

Ngl most of the garnet players so similar

[sick ocean]

sent an inv, ngl hoping i didnt remember ur name

[ionic swan]

„most“

[sick ocean]

ah nvm

[ionic swan]

Nyx knows AgentWhiff and my secret

[unreal tulip]

Now that you mention it... I have never seen you and Agent Whiff in the same room...

[limber onyx]

And yet we’re often here together

[ionic swan]

He didnt tell you also did he???? That fool

[lone trench]

Not much different game strat u can do on her

[worn ferry]

nah I've seen a garnet main w some creative strats

[unreal tulip]

But that's because we keep the charade to a whole different level

[ionic swan]

Aight well I guess I can open my mouth, I told a few friends because I hear the cats out of the bag.

AgentWhiff and me are Brothers lol

[unreal tulip]

I thought you were the same person XD

[ionic swan]

Well we act like the same person

[unreal tulip]

Or better, I was only insinuating it : )

[worn ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUiATSZBBWQ I aspire to be at least this creative w her

[sick ocean]

you lagging?

[sick ocean]

i hv blackmail

[ionic swan]

So if one of us are reachable and you want matches with the other thats a good way to get our attention lol

[unreal tulip]

Tell him to not call me bro, he'll understand

[ionic swan]

Lol

[desert marlin]

is there move scaling in this game and rage?

[lone trench]

This is literally how all garnets play

[ionic swan]

AgentWhiff should be available for mvs more lately, he been sick so he disappeared. He‘s had a lack of motivation for everything. I‘ll try and get him online in the game tonight though

[lone trench]

These ain’t even clips it’s just normal kills

[ionic swan]

He got his new smith skin so he‘s hyped rn

[worn ferry]

demo you're so negative all the time omg do you even have friends here

[ionic swan]

Do all Jacks Play the same?

[real rampart]

😂

[lone trench]

I’m not being negative. There was nothing special I’ve seen

[ionic swan]

Yea….Yea most do…

[lone trench]

No they don’t. Just the same combo routes but I’ve seen different playstyles

[severe wyvern]

this game sucks at saving maps

[ionic swan]

The best Jacks Ive seen are the ones that dont use his Jab and Side B

[sick ocean]

yeah idk what that was abt

[lone trench]

Those are the worst

[unreal tulip]

they all play Jack, so they gotta be similar

[ionic swan]

No breh, the stuff Ive seen them do

[unreal tulip]

today I won a FFA as Jack by grabbing people in the air

[worn ferry]

the most creative I see Jack players get is use nair a bit more than usual that's about it.....

[desert marlin]

how do you win as jason against wonder woman

[ionic swan]

Gulp*

[desert marlin]

😭

[ionic swan]

Read her thats about it

[worn ferry]

grab beats armor

[lone trench]

Play passive

[ionic swan]

Her nair

[lone trench]

Depends how they play tbh

[real rampart]

read and punish

[worn ferry]

good thing I didn't say to grab her nair

[ionic swan]

WW Nair is a nightmare for Jasons

Imagine if Taz nair broke armor lol

[lone trench]

Honestly just shield when ww jumps

[ionic swan]

Best bet

[worn ferry]

that would hardly matter now that shields are a thing plus we already break armor w dair.

[ionic swan]

Make good reads and dont rely on armor against her

[hallow wadi]

WW and Finn Nair and Morty’s down tilt is such a pain to fight as Jason

[ionic swan]

Taz eats Jason Alive

[desert marlin]

her nair beats jason

i lost

[worn ferry]

once again do not grab a nairing wonder woman why would you think I would suggest that. I'm saying when she tries to use ARMOR THEN GRAB HER.

[solar field]

Is there any way to disable the share button on ps4 it messes up my game alot of times and it makes my character jump off stage and also it makes my screen go to the gallery screen while I'm in a match

[desert marlin]

he also had like 4.5 k wins on wonder woman lol he wasnt that good tbh my ww is better

[desert marlin]

i didnt say anythign about grabbing her

[ionic swan]

Jason may have his problematic matchups, but his air Grab still needs a hitbox adjustment

Move grabs you while your nowhere near the guy

[proud cloud]

I'm still wondering how this son-**-*-bitch game can exist, bronze vs. diamond who wins?

[maiden locust]

Who should i play first in marvel rivals today?

[ionic swan]

Language.

[maiden locust]

[proud cloud]

It's time to tell it like it is

[ionic swan]

Play as HawkEye and make people hate the game

[maiden locust]

I haven’t tried him yet. I’ll do that

[ionic swan]

Just aim remotely near heads and it counts as a headshot because everything is a HitScan in mrivals

[maiden locust]

Gonna go make someone quit games forever. It’s for the greater good

[sleek coyote]

🦈

[severe wyvern]

up tilt instead of jab so sad

[sick ocean]

how am i winning tho im confused

[ionic swan]

Jeff making people mad at the game and they nerfed his hitbox lol

[runic haven]

Finally got looney unlocked

[ionic swan]

Jason rift soon

[runic haven]

I know he is my main

[ionic swan]

I farmed gem levels and Im level 20 almost in all of them. Im ready

[runic haven]

Im not

[ionic swan]

They think they will challenge me for a skin, Im gonna Taz loop these npc

[analog current]

also combo starter frame 1 armor

that move is not okay in shields lolol

[ionic swan]

Yea…Jason is a problem now lol

I stopped playing him when that move became alittle too popular

[analog current]

i wouldn’t say he’s a problem you jus gotta play more reactionary against him rather than afk steam rolling his disadvantage

match up definitely got harder as the patches went on lol

[sleek coyote]

i feel no difference

[analog current]

i heard it’s a rectangular hitbox instead of a spherical one now

[ionic swan]

Nothing rn annoys me more than an enemy marcy using elbowDrop, it‘s one of the most dishonest moves. Vaccums you in from above her and sends you bellow to kill as early as 70

[finite dock]

it should only hit you when it’s coming down and not vacuum you in during start up

[ionic swan]

Bro they use it out of being Comboed and it just works sometimes

[sleek coyote]

more than likely is but still i feel the same. im still able to swallow a full team

[analog current]

jeff the goat 👽

[finite dock]

i’m playing rivals when i get home looks fun

[ionic swan]

Rivals is fun, but not my kind of game

Ima sit it out

Also I cant really take it serious

[analog current]

rivals just feeds into the live service itch that multiversus been lacking in

[ionic swan]

Still charging people an arm and a leg for skins. I see no difference really

[sharp moon]

add Goku to the game

[ionic swan]

Also I smell a burnout with that games development. They are moving too quickly with it

As someone who has seen game development‘s ins and outs. What Mrivals is doing cant not have that happen eventually

[worn ferry]

quickly???

[ionic swan]

With how much higher Quality the character models are? I think so

[sleek coyote]

burnout?! no time soon

[ionic swan]

If they take some time before adding the other two fantastic 4 though. I can see me being wrong. Do we know when they‘re being added

[sleek coyote]

nah no confirmed dates for thing and torch just yet at least not to my knowledge

[ionic swan]

Im also not saying the mrival players will burnout.

[sleek coyote]

ik youre saying the game in general

[ionic swan]

Im saying development pace

[severe wyvern]

well for one

[ionic swan]

Unless they are working the devs like slaves

[fluid chasm]

crazy

[ionic swan]

Hopefully not.

[sleek coyote]

i think they’ll add in characters at a decent pace. afterall this is only just the 1st season. 4 characters off full launch doesn’t sound so harsh

[kind lantern]

like ruby rose s6

[sick ocean]

desperate huh

[ionic swan]

True, the game did just come out so this could just be them rolling out content they been ahead on

[sleek coyote]

get out its not happening 😭

[severe wyvern]

no just typing

[thorny vale]

Marvel rivals is an example of how to do live service right

[sleek coyote]

VERY

[spice horizon]

yes

[ionic swan]

Until they change the formula on the players when they slow down on making money

[thorny vale]

That won't be anytime soon

[spice horizon]

I bet the rogue rift won't let you use your gems, only the modifers you pick up lul

[sleek coyote]

i dont see them dropping the ball soon tho

[sick ocean]

was talking abt girph

[ionic swan]

Maybe not anytime soon yea