general

[river meteor]

The ball acts like a third teammate

[regal blade]

😂😂😂

Balls*

[fallen coyote]

Bawls

[regal blade]

Yeah

[worn ferry]

Balls?

[regal blade]

Oh no💀

[sleek coyote]

[fallen coyote]

oh no

[river meteor]

Ball MastrZ 9009

Soul Eater is a fun series

[regal blade]

No one can outrun the A train

[sleek coyote]

word? tell him them heart attacks been catching up lately

[regal blade]

Nah he got a new heart

[river meteor]

Well he can recover

[fallen coyote]

The actor? Or in the shows canon

[river meteor]

Character

[fallen coyote]

Ah okay

[sleek coyote]

cap?

[regal blade]

No

He got a racist man’s heart in him he can run faster then ever

[sleek coyote]

ohhh you mean that

[regal blade]

Yeah lmao

Hot take

[sleek coyote]

i couldve sworn he was still getting them even after that im probably tripping

[regal blade]

Marceline takes no skill and everyone that plays her refuses to rely on skill

[fallen coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[regal blade]

LMAO😭🙏🏾

[bold brook]

correct!

she needs nerfs so she won't just erase stocks with her knockoff Superman grounded up special

[stark jetty]

I mean she probably needs a nerf, but i haven't had a problem dealing with her

[bold brook]

her only problem is 2 moves hit too hard otherwise she's pretty balanced.

the Taz effect essentially

[regal blade]

Did I win a prize

[bold brook]

The prize of feeling good that you said something factual!

[regal blade]

Yes I’m smart

[stark jetty]

And that life has crappy prizes

[regal blade]

Tbh it doesn’t take a smart person to know how dumb this game is

A 12 year old could be playing joker rn wondering why they are doing so bad compared to shaggy players and other braindead selections

[stark jetty]

I honestly believe they need to stop changing the game so much and let the meta grow

[fallen coyote]

I haven't had much trouble with a Marcy, her down special isn't a problem if you walk away

[stark jetty]

Or shield lol

People forget that shield is a viable option

[bold brook]

the problem now is the devs don't know how the game should feel to satisfy the beta lovers. honestly the game rn is pretty okay of how it feels

[river meteor]

A patch every two weeks much more change than most games in this genre creates

[fallen coyote]

I play Jack so his up special has higher priority

[stark jetty]

Its too strong!

Did you shield it?

Erm..........

[minor lake]

Her down special isn't even the real problem. All the Marcys that know what they're doing will annoy you with much worse stuff.

[stark jetty]

I mean I'm a beta lover, but I would rather have the game as a whole survive than have my precious speed back

[regal blade]

Shields shouldn’t be in 2s it opens new doors to camping

[fallen coyote]

Jab and downtilt go crazy

[tight merlin]

Can someone help me on looney for the MV Academy rift, it's actually unplayable unless you play with a friend

[rancid jackal]

Is the game dead yet

[bold brook]

yesn't

[stark jetty]

I'm playing inscryption right now, so I can't help

Have you done all other rifts? I did it solo without issue after leveling up gems

[limber onyx]

I play her and I agree wholeheartedly

[tight merlin]

Well I'm playing on PS4 and the lag is absolutely abysmal, and not only that but it's actually unplayable since the AI can hit you relentlessly for a shieze ton of damage. Even breaking your shields in seconds.

[regal blade]

Thank you.

[limber onyx]

I mostly played bad characters before very weird to play someone where I can barely try and still win

[rancid jackal]

Marceline is def broken

I wish the game had more players I get matched w the same ppl more than ever

[river meteor]

Yeah I think that is an issue.

I think If PFG was given all of 2022 to develop the game & pushed the open beta to 2023 it could've been promoted as a WB100th beta and then return in full 2024 so the lore wasn't so much uncertainty & hiatus

unfortunately WB probably had deadlines to meet

[rancid jackal]

I’m pretty sure wb sees this game as a failure

[open girder]

same

[river meteor]

WB has always been bad with marketing

[rancid jackal]

I’ll be surprised if the game makes it another 365 days

[bold brook]

They canned MK1 DLC and I'm hoping PFG convinces WB not to scrap the game because it's failing

[rancid jackal]

That’s crazy cuz the trailers they did during the beta for mvs were actually pretty peak

[rancid jackal]

Wb has no emotions they just want money

[bold brook]

it feels like WB and PFG are in a battle of should Multiversus be a game or money laundering scheme for the platform fighter trend when the beta was successfully

[tight merlin]

It needs to just be a game

[rancid jackal]

Honestly I think mvs wasn’t ready to release in 2024 everything that’s in the game rn should’ve been here at launch in retrospective I think they would’ve been better off waiting to launch until 2025

[river meteor]

Well I say this in reference to thr company in general like WB is hyper sensitive to criticism & commitment

Like Iron Giant didn't get a trailer until two months b4 bc WB had not faith in the film. Many of their Theatrical animated films received similar treatment

[rancid jackal]

But then again the only reason the game got to this point is bc of the criticism we had by playing over the seasons

[dapper oar]

Got the same person 4 times in a row

[bold brook]

like I said it's feeling like a constant battle of should Multiversus be a actual game with love or a cash grab

[rancid jackal]

The cash grab aspect just doesn’t work. The cosmetics just aren’t as valuable to ppl as they would be in other games

[tight merlin]

This game is absoltely ridiculous with the looney mode, the devs give wonder woman a stupid echo slash that instantly bumps you up from 56 to 110. This game is forcing you to play with friends, and it's actually annoying.

[rancid jackal]

I just spent 200 on fortnite in the past month and spent 0 on mvs and I have no regrets

[river meteor]

That's why if MVS had its like 2-3 moths of open beta in 2023 it could've been advertised as a WB100 event and then full game release 2024-2025

[river meteor]

I haven't playrd on that level yet

[tight merlin]

It's horrible unless you play with a friend, especially by the end

They make you play as characters you don't want to play like Raven and Velma, against powerhouses like Batman and the PowerPuffs, it's ridiculous.

[bold brook]

the more I think about it, I haven't played the game in a week besides checking the shop for free rewards

[rancid jackal]

Wb just can’t win the market on live service games there’s too much competition they should’ve just focused on making a fun game with tons of references to their ips instead of trying to be like fortnite

[tight merlin]

If they do something like the MVS University again they're absolutely dumb individuals.

[stark jetty]

The game has about a 65 percent chance of surviving 2025

[rancid jackal]

What makes you give that number as an estimate

[bold brook]

the thing was that Multiversus did try to be it's own thing sigh, during the beta

[tight merlin]

They won't because WB doesn't care about what the fans want, literally funded Suicide Squad and tried to make the game survivable (EVEN THO THEY KILLED ONE OF THE GREATEST CHARACTERS IN GAMING MEDIA, ARKHAMVERSE BATMAN)!!!

[stark jetty]

Optimism, but I would say my real guess is about 35 percent chance to survive

[river meteor]

I think that MVS Academy has an interesting concept I'd wish the lore was expanded more

[night perch]

I wish multiversus had mods

[stark jetty]

It did, but it got shut down hard

[bold brook]

it actually did had mods until it became impossible to do so

[river meteor]

One of my Fav mods was Optimus Prime as IG

[rancid jackal]

Lowkey the thought of the game being shutdown is what makes me not invest my time into as much as I did b4

[tight merlin]

And then MK1 was not much better with the silly Kameo mode, and selling the DLC at worthless price too. Then they wonder why their game died, because they're too greedy.

[night perch]

So bad game
Bad mechanics
No listening to the community
Fomo
Forcing fighter road to artificially lengthen player counts

[stark jetty]

I don't expect a full shutdown ever

Just seasonal support being canned

[bold brook]

I don't want this game to be harder of a laughing stock to F2P games again

[tight merlin]

They literally rejected Batman Beyond animated movie in a Spider-Verse style and a Cyote VS. ACME movie for these worthless funds mind you.

[rancid jackal]

Literally all they had to do was make mkx 2.0 and the game would’ve succeeded

[river meteor]

Can't be worse than Flash Party or NASB 1

[rancid jackal]

Instead they took away the krypt and gave us an item shop that no one asked for

[tight merlin]

This is what's gonna make me quit MVS this year more and more, because greed like this and abysmal game design that makes you grind and grind and grind and barely any award is annoying

[rancid jackal]

If seasonal support is removed and the game doesn’t make any money why continue to keep the servers up

[tight merlin]

MK11 was amazing than 1 btw

[night perch]

This game is a laughing stock. That's why I said that the Win Streak Challenge rewards sucked

You want me to have hours of footage on my SSD, for multiversus merch. Not gleanium. Bro I already get bullied by my friends for still playing this stupid game

[stark jetty]

Because that is what they did with suicide squad

[night perch]

I wouldn't be caught dead with multiversus merch

[river meteor]

The Looney Tunes movie "The Day the Earth Blew Up" barely escaped the WB vault by getting a distribution deal with Ketchup Entertainment.
Now it's getting a proper theatrical run
!!!FEB 28TH!!!

[rancid jackal]

I like mk1s combos better but mk11 had a better story and honestly a better roster imo, and the best krypt out of all modern mks

[tight merlin]

THEY HAD SPAWN DUDE, DANG SPAWN!!!

[river meteor]

Spawn is awesome

[tight merlin]

But still I wanted a Batman Beyond Spider-Verse esque movie, but WB canned it cause they're allergic to actual good decisions.

[rancid jackal]

And they went woke w sektor and cyrax for no reason in mk1

[tight merlin]

It's like EA all over again

[river meteor]

We almost had 3 theatrical Looney Tunes movies

[bold brook]

I was going to say that WB had more care for KTJL but I'm not sure it's true

[river meteor]

Huh?

[tight merlin]

The price of the DLC is what killed this game in my personal opinion, and waiting months upon months for a DLC character. Like you get Omni Man in 2023 and then you get Hoelander in 2024, ridiculous.

[worn ferry]

Taz got his movie 😎

[river meteor]

Quest 4 Burger?

[rancid jackal]

Spawn and joker terminator rambo and robocop was definitely a better dlc lineup than mk1

[worn ferry]

Ya

[tight merlin]

Yeah in my opinion

[river meteor]

It good?

[bold brook]

it's like Disney: reject the good ideas for just slop

[tight merlin]

Can someone help me with the looney MVS University rift tho

[worn ferry]

As a hardcore Taz fan ya. The writers really got his character down to a T.

[rancid jackal]

Yeah honestly homelander is an amazing character for mk but he came out way too late after all the hype for the game went down

[tight merlin]

Or go woke until they don't get money, cause that's all they care about but they're not willing to do good upon the community to make that said money

It's like Sony with their dang Sonyverse, the first Venom movie was the only thing that was good and that's it. But they do not give a flying Taznado about what we want, only what brings in cash, but they're not wanting to do anything the fans want to make MORE MONEY!!!!!!!!

[river meteor]

"Woke" now just a buzzword & bastardized term removed from its original meaning

[fallen coyote]

[rancid jackal]

Keeping the game alive but with no new content just seems like a liability to me. They should’ve never made it a live service game to begin with if it was playable offline it would always have a cult following and wb wouldn’t have to pay to maintain the servers

[worn ferry]

Stay Woke

[river meteor]

✊

[rancid jackal]

Making sektor and cyrax an African American and Asian woman def seemed like a woke pandering decision

[river meteor]

I've been meaning to watch it gotta do it b4 it gets removed from max

[river meteor]

How? They've always just been mech suits b4

[rancid jackal]

Bc changing their identities and redesigning them was an arbitrary decision made in favor of inclusivity, even tho it would’ve made 0 difference on the success of the game whether they were male or female @river meteor

[stark jetty]

My space has been invaded by a creature

[river meteor]

If Samus zero was revealed as a girl today would that be pandering too?

[worn ferry]

Max is removing everything. Well if you miss your chance is on amazon or you can just watch it on a pirate site

[river meteor]

MK 1 is like a resest in general right?

[limber onyx]

It basically just means anything the person using it doesn’t like personally

[rancid jackal]

No bc she was revealed to be a woman in the very first Metroid game that came out in 1986

[limber onyx]

Too brainwashed by internet speak to just say they don’t like something, gotta be a word for it now

[worn ferry]

I can just tell you smell funny

[stark jetty]

The issue with sektor and cyrax is primarily with those who don't like gender bending characters

And I mean while it doesn't bother me, I can see why people would be annoyed with it

[worn ferry]

ok I gotta make me hot coco bbl

[river meteor]

No what I mean is that if her reveal didn't happen until today & ppl assumed like back then Samus was a guy

[limber onyx]

You ever wonder how players make it to a certain rank when they’re so bad

How are you plat 1 Arya in 2s and you die 3 times, putting up 40 damage

[rancid jackal]

It still would be a different scenario than sektor and cyrax, they’ve been male in every appearance they made besides mk1

[stark jetty]

I mean with enough luck anything is possible

And anyone can get higher ranks if they spend enough time into it

[bold brook]

I'm now realizing they are female in MK1 like how the Penguin was in that Batman show and Mr. Freeze in KTJL

[river meteor]

Animation on Max has an entire list of what's being removed between now & 2026 its madness

[limber onyx]

I guess, just seems crazy when arya I feel is sorta hard to be good with

[stark jetty]

And traditionally that's a risky decision

Either

People are cool with it, don't think it's necessary, or don't care

[limber onyx]

You have to understand if you change anything about a character its pandering

[stark jetty]

Yeah like changing characters is usually not a good idea

[bold brook]

I would mind it if it was some multiversal reason like in Crash 4 where there's a female version of one of the villains but the original male version is still present

[rancid jackal]

It’s not always pandering, it’s just that it’s disrespectful to the original fans of the character

[limber onyx]

I don’t see an issue, you can only do something the same so many times before you get bored of it

[rancid jackal]

Like nick fury used to a white guy and nobody complains that he’s black now

[river meteor]

Exactly

[limber onyx]

I’m sure plenty people did

[rancid jackal]

It’s just that Samuel Jackson’s portrayal became the most iconic version of the character so the majority of ppl accepted it

[stark jetty]

In mk 1s case it's change for the sake of change

The male versions are in the game as assists though basically

Just not playable

[river meteor]

Well the entire MK1 premise is a timeline/ universe reset

[limber onyx]

Don’t see an issue in Shaking things up a bit specially when the game’s been around 30 years

[bold brook]

when genderbending or changing race of a character you have to do it in a respectful way so it wouldn't overshadow the original and show a evolution of the OG version instead of a replacement of just because.

or make them separate characters

[limber onyx]

Change some stuff

[rancid jackal]

Changing sektor and cyraxs gender seems unnecessary to me you barely ever saw their face when they were male

[limber onyx]

It’s like the least important thing when they aren’t even human

Not even interesting enough to care about as far as I’m concerned

[river meteor]

Well Tanya has always been dark skined yet ppl complained just bc her hair is in locs instead of straight

[rancid jackal]

But when they made them women it felt like they went out of their way to show that they are women constantly as if anybody cares

[stark jetty]

Well it was recieved by saying

It was done to appease woke audience lol

[limber onyx]

Sounds like you do

[bold brook]

and that's what you shouldn't do when doing a gender swap

[limber onyx]

And when you say woke, what do you mean

That word means nothing

[stark jetty]

I'm saying that's how it was recieved as for the general audience

"It was a woke decision"

[river meteor]

Woke has a meaning but ppl have misused & abused it

From its original usage

[stark jetty]

Like if that's how i saw it was recieved that is all I can say on it

[limber onyx]

I think it’s just adds confusion to most conversations at this point

[stark jetty]

My stance is im fine with them and they are fun characters

The general reception is what I'm talking about

Because that's all I saw

"They did it to be woke"

[limber onyx]

I think the robots matter the least for this sorta thing anyway

[rancid jackal]

When I say woke I’m not using the traditional definition to me it means anything that caters specifically to social justice warriors

[limber onyx]

Yeah but what does that mean

[stark jetty]

Well that's the thing too they have always been robots

This time they are ironman suits

[limber onyx]

You arent making anything clearer

[bold brook]

I find it slightly ironic Adventure Time handled a genderswap okay it was for a long time ago and before it became popular now but I want to say it because where Finnona and Cake are... just female versions of Finn and Jake; they don't rub it in that they're woman

[limber onyx]

Do you just mean meant to appeal to women? Just say that lol

Don’t use pointless words that hide what you actually mean

[rancid jackal]

Bc fionna and cake as a concept does nothing to take away from the original adventure universe in fact it enhances it

[stark jetty]

Thats the best way to do it

They work fine as their own characters

Heck even marvel does multiversus gender bent varients all the time and they are fine

[limber onyx]

Fiona and cake were just kind of a joke that got added to later

[sharp moon]

Marvel Rivals sucks

[bold brook]

I think Jellystone also does a good job genderswaping characters.

I didn't see the show so call me wrong if I'm wrong

[limber onyx]

It was okay with friends, but I don’t think I’d play a hero shooter on my own

Jellystone just made Jabberjaw a girl not sure they did anyone else

[river meteor]

Now Fionna and Cake are fully developed & distinct characters after their spinoff series

[rancid jackal]

I won’t say that bc that’s not what I meant. Basically when I use the word woke it’s in reference to ppl who overly promote socially progressive, left-wing or liberal views

[limber onyx]

Okay but how does that do this

[bold brook]

okay I also admit I'm not good when giving examples of controversial topics

[spare zephyr]

Easiest way to show u don’t care about something is to just. Not talk about it lol

[limber onyx]

It’s not like they’re saying any political views in the game

It’s just adding more female characters

[spare zephyr]

^^^

[rancid jackal]

Bc diversity and inclusion is a tool used to promote wokeism

[limber onyx]

What?

There’s already women in the game

[river meteor]

Woke-ism? smh

[bold brook]

I like they're adding more female fighters, to the game since there was only Garnet, Harley, Wonder Woman, Arya, and Cake if we're counting skins before full launch

[rancid jackal]

But in the cyborg ninjas case its an arbitrary change

[limber onyx]

So arbitrary that it has to be a big conspiracy towards “woke?”

[spare zephyr]

They were humans in mk9 too btw lmao

[river meteor]

Exactly ppl wanted to add more women in MVS and with Nubia PPG Raven and Marceleen...is that woke?

[limber onyx]

I just don’t get the mindset here, nobody is gonna suddenly become “leftist” because cyrax is a woman now

It doesn’t promote anything

[grave drift]

Yall got school tomorrow btw, just wanna let y’all know.

[rancid jackal]

Not necessarily, if inclusion was their goal they could’ve achieved that in many other ways. Choosing sektor a cyrax as the target for change was just a strange and unnecessary decision

[coral quarry]

I'm more interested in Cyrax and Sector now than ever before.

[stark jetty]

If you want to give an example of a controversial topic just say

"Velma"

[coral quarry]

...Granted, that's still not that much, but still.

[limber onyx]

I think the robots are probably the only ones you could reasonably change the gender of

[river meteor]

Ppl were saying Nubia was a "woke forced addition yet didn't say that about other female characters why is that?

[spare zephyr]

It’s an alternate timeline anyway

[bold brook]

man I forgot Velma...

[limber onyx]

They already have women so I don’t think had anything to do with inclusion, they just wanted to change a character

[rancid jackal]

I just think Nubia was a dev pick and not as resource heavy as other chars

[spare zephyr]

Changing barakas race to a terrible disease was a strange and unnecessary decision

[stark jetty]

Famous words of the internet

"We don't forget"

[rancid jackal]

That too

[limber onyx]

Yeah that’s a much lamer change

[spare zephyr]

That’s the only one lmao

[river meteor]

Remember the Velmaaa (series)

[celest herald]

Sadly

[bold brook]

I say I wanted a Velma Velma skin yet I forgot she was a part of the female fighters where I remember a Game of Thrones fighter

[rancid jackal]

All I’m saying is that is no one cares what gender the cyborgs are the only reason to make such a change would be to appeal to a demographic that probably doesn’t even play mk

[bold brook]

I still stand on my statement of I'm willing to buy a Velma Velma skin btw

[spare zephyr]

If no one cares why are we even talking about it

[limber onyx]

I think they probably just wanted to change it for fun, no one cares like you said

[river meteor]

I think that change is more of an explanation of the origin of Baraka's race I guess

[stark jetty]

That was literally character assassination the show

[river meteor]

Still waiting for season 3

[runic pasture]

Get rekt

[rancid jackal]

How did Velma get a second season

[stark jetty]

And it got two seasons

(Because they were prepaid for not because if hate watching

Get your facts straight people)

[celest herald]

Did they cancel that show?

[limber onyx]

They did

[celest herald]

Good it sucked

[river meteor]

Unfortunately

[stark jetty]

Season 2 was pre paid for

Thats the only reason we got it

[river meteor]

I watched all of it & got the battle scars to prove it

[limber onyx]

I watched season one just it see how bad it actually was, don’t know why they focused the lame adult animated sitcom angle

[rancid jackal]

Hate watching is dumb if you don’t like it why are inadvertently supporting it by watching

[bold brook]

PFG make a Velma Velma skin and I'll spend money for this game

[limber onyx]

The mystery underneath could’ve been interesting if they played it seriously

[spare zephyr]

The origin story of the tarkata keeps changing but this is the only one where it’s not a race but an illness
I don’t mind tho bc it’s literally an alternate timeline. Poor baraka tho 😭

[runic pasture]

Savage

[river meteor]

I don't Hate it

[limber onyx]

But it had to just be like the worst family guy skit imaginable instead

[river meteor]

Well it could've worked the writing was better

[spare zephyr]

Doesn’t Velma die in the last episode ?

[bold brook]

👍

[spare zephyr]

Whoops that’s not how you hide spoilers LMAO

[limber onyx]

If they just did a serious show, I mean.

[river meteor]

Yes & no

[stark jetty]

She literally goes to hell and doesn't return

[rancid jackal]

Well tarkatans are still a race in the other timelines, that change only affects the current one

[limber onyx]

Instead of family guying the Scooby universe

[spare zephyr]

That is literally what I said

[river meteor]

Then Fred possesed by the book of witchcraft revives Velma

[bold brook]

I'm now noticing Velma is pretty much "generic adult cartoon but it's Scooby Doo"

[limber onyx]

Yep

[runic pasture]

Omg hahah demloished

[rancid jackal]

But what doesn’t make sense to me is why would lui kang, basically an omnipotent time god allow a group of humans to suffer from an incurable disease when he knows that they are originally just a different species

[runic pasture]

Is there a chat for ranked?

[rancid jackal]

Sorry didn’t read

[river meteor]

Well one thing that was good about Velma is th e art & animation & the artist had a lot of fun with dynamic lighting

[runic pasture]

This game is a beauty

[limber onyx]

Yeah unfortunately that show did look pretty good

[river meteor]

Maybe he was just bored?

[river meteor]

The same thing with Santa Inc it had amazing stop motin animation but terrible jokes & writing,....,Velma is still better

[limber onyx]

Is that what that was

[bold brook]

what's up with shows having good animation yet god awful writing

[rancid jackal]

I don’t like Velma’s art style ngl

[river meteor]

It's crazy

[runic pasture]

Gg

[river meteor]

The animation was great especially during Velma panic attacks

[rancid jackal]

It’s too adult sitcom-ish, the entire premise is just too far from what I expect from the scooby doo verse

[rancid jackal]

Then basically all of mk1’s plot boils down to lui kang just being a trash god

[river meteor]

If the jokes & writing were good and it can work Scooby-Doo Doo has been around since 1960 & have been reinvented in many ways b4

The next Scooby-Doo project follows Shaggy & Scooby in Japan

[spare zephyr]

All of the gods in mk are ass so that’s on par

[rancid jackal]

The final nail in the coffin for Velma is being a scooby doo spin off without an appearance from the titular character himself

[river meteor]

Yeah most God pantheon are jerks

[river meteor]

Well WB didn't let them use Scooby yet the did have Scrappy

[rancid jackal]

But lui kang is the only one with the power to change the timelines in anyway he sees fit. So any differences or issues that occur in the timeline are solely due to lui kangs poor decision making

[bold brook]

They should've made Scrappy Scooby Doo instead

[limber onyx]

Oh yeah I thought that was supposed to be last year

[river meteor]

Well there was that one movie that had only Daphne and Velma

[river meteor]

No it was just announced last year who knows when it releases?🤷

[limber onyx]

Huh I thought it was set for late 2024 but I must be remembering wrong

[river meteor]

Nah just an announcement at an animation event

[limber onyx]

Ah well seems potentially cool

[river meteor]

Hopefully

[spare zephyr]

He made the timeline and then gave up the power so he’s just the god of fire now. It is his fault but he can’t change it now

[river meteor]

Like he just wanted to shake things up

[rancid jackal]

Honestly it’s just poor writing to me. Literally the entire games plot could’ve been avoided simply by lui kang not giving up his powers or just making a better timeline

[spare zephyr]

There could always be a better timeline

[limber onyx]

Liu kang should’ve made himself cooler instead of being a fire god

That was his first mistake

[rancid jackal]

Like why nerf Johnny cage and still make him your champion for earthrealm

[spare zephyr]

Someone was constantly messing with the timeline anyway so none would be perfect anyway

[river meteor]

To make Johnny work for it. Where's the fun in just handing him power

[limber onyx]

He’s gonna be the lamer fire guy when scorpion exists anyway

[spare zephyr]

Liu did what he thought was best and took the two most powerful tyrants out of making them dangerous without just straight up killing them

Which didn’t even work 😭

[rancid jackal]

It’s not being handed power if it was always yours to begin with

It’s literally just nerfing

[spare zephyr]

Johnnys died like twice in other timelines maybe he thought he needed a break

[limber onyx]

They should put Johnny in this game

I want to nut punch bugs bunny

[spare zephyr]

[rancid jackal]

Idk it just doesn’t make sense to me, if you have complete power and control over time you would think he’d do a better job

It’s not like he didn’t have infinite time to plan things out

[limber onyx]

I’d probably do a bad job of that, seems realistic to me

[spare zephyr]

Seems like a difficult job tbh

[limber onyx]

Should’ve put kung lao in charge and made him the god of hats

[spare zephyr]

Raiden decided on genocide so he’s at least doing better than that

BESTIE

[sleek coyote]

can somebody tell me if my girl Jade still a revenant

[limber onyx]

Kung lao could give everyone cool hats

Perfect timeline

[spare zephyr]

I don’t think so 😭 I don’t remember seeing her in the story at all

[rancid jackal]

The whole revenant storyline in mkx and mk11 is so confusing to me

[limber onyx]

To be fair, MK story is generally kinda messy

[rancid jackal]

I haven’t played either of those games in years tho

At mkx and mk11 had content to last you for a long time after you completed the story

[river meteor]

Which Johnny? Test, Quest, Bravo, or Rocket ?

[limber onyx]

Yes

[rancid jackal]

Bravo for sure

[limber onyx]

Who is Johnny rocket

[rancid jackal]

Johnny test is my least favorite cartoon from that era ngl

[river meteor]

1950s themed Restaurant, which would fit for Johnny Bravo

[limber onyx]

I didn’t like it at the time, but reruns later grew on me

[river meteor]

The 1st season was great

[spare zephyr]

Multiple timelines will do that fr

[river meteor]

And Netflix gave Johnny Test a revival

[limber onyx]

But I meant Johnny cage in this case

[rancid jackal]

If I had a dollar for every whip crack sound effect used in Johnny test

[limber onyx]

You’d be making $1000 per ep

[rancid jackal]

Fr

[river meteor]

Don't try a drinking game with that

[spare zephyr]

Tevin referenced

[river meteor]

Yup

[rancid jackal]

Alcohol poisoning the game

[river meteor]

☠️

[limber onyx]

Anyway Johnny bravo as a tank would be fun

[river meteor]

What about Mary & Susan test?

Vs Dexter

[rancid jackal]

Dexter for sure

[limber onyx]

I’m for it as long as we get Dexter eventually

[rancid jackal]

Mary and Susan are just gender swapped dexter

[river meteor]

No I meant fighting each other

[rancid jackal]

In a fight dexter still

[river meteor]

Well not really bc the personality and character dynamics are different

[spare zephyr]

Mary & Susan give themselves super powers and win

[river meteor]

They could swap out like Pirya and Mythra

[limber onyx]

Yeah I don’t think they’re very similar beyond being kid scientists

[river meteor]

And red hair

[limber onyx]

Hmm, true

[rancid jackal]

It’s them being redheads with a sibling who’s the opposite gender and not as smart as them

[limber onyx]

Yeah but they have a talking dog

[river meteor]

Yeah that's where's the similariites end

[fallen coyote]

The shell shack??

[rancid jackal]

It’s the concept that’s similar not the actual characters

[spare zephyr]

Dukey can probably sing too

[night perch]

God it was bad.

[limber onyx]

It grew on me a bit but it’s also somewhat annoying

[fallen coyote]

I hope y'all got that reference

[river meteor]

Spongebob?

[spare zephyr]

That’s why I responded lol

[fallen coyote]

Hell yeah

[fallen coyote]

Oh yeahhh, the second scene. Good one

[rancid jackal]

Also their sibling is also blonde, and they wear glasses, and have a secret laboratory in their house that their parents don’t know about

[spare zephyr]

Their parents know about the lab

[limber onyx]

Yeah they do know

[spare zephyr]

Susan and Mary’s do at least

Dexters parents find out once but get memory wiped right after so LOL

[river meteor]

Johnny Test was an average show with average animation that took up too much airtime

I liked the series 1st season was the funniest & had better animation but it got flanderized as time went on

[rancid jackal]

Bling bling boy is the most cringe character I have ever seen

[river meteor]

What about Jimmy Newtron or AJfrom FOP? Genius Kid with secret lab was just a trend back then

[spare zephyr]

I love Johnny Test and it was one of my favorites and still is
But opinions vary so I gotta hold the slander

[limber onyx]

Well, I do think that’s supposed to be the case, everyone says that in the show

[limber onyx]

I think jimmy’s parents know also

They interact with his inventions directly

[river meteor]

Have you seen the Netflix Johnny Test revival?

[spare zephyr]

Yeah they know

[limber onyx]

He’s not a secret boy genius

But it’s close enough for sure

[river meteor]

I think most of the hate is because it aired so often like TTG

[spare zephyr]

Tbh jimmy’s pretty loud about being a genius lol he’s saved the world multiple times

[rancid jackal]

Yeah Ik but I def feel like Johnny test had more inspiration from dexter than any other show, but maybe that’s only because of the character designs of the sisters and Johnny and nothing else

[river meteor]

Idk if AJ parents know about his science lab

[spare zephyr]

They don’t! They just think his rooms bland af

[rancid jackal]

Red hair scientists with glasses with dumb blonde sibling idk that doesn’t seem like to common of a trope too just be coincidence

[elfin basin]

servers down?

[river meteor]

Have you seen how AJ is when he grows up? (In FOP a New Wish)

[spare zephyr]

Nah I haven’t seen the new show

I need to tho heard it’s good

[rancid jackal]

No, should I?

[spare zephyr]

If you didn’t like the original you will not like the revival 😭

[rancid jackal]

The only thing I heard about it is that everyone loves poof in the new revival

[river meteor]

It's really good it's not a reboot it's a sequel like Fionna & Cake

[rancid jackal]

The animation style is cool too

[river meteor]

And it's a bit more serialized Wanda & Cosmo relationship is the best it's been too

[rancid jackal]

Way better than the original imo

[river meteor]

I can see that

[spare zephyr]

The original definitely falls off later seasons

[river meteor]

Yes after season 4

Especially season 10

[rancid jackal]

I stopped caring about fairly odd parents after the channel chasers special

[river meteor]

Yea that would've been a great ending

But if you haven't watched FOPANW recommend it the best new project they've made since the og run

[rancid jackal]

Yea ngl poof was a cool addition but they started doing too much w the new characters

He did not need a dog

[river meteor]

Well Sparky was annoying and Chloe was redundant

[deep crescent]

Jason is so braindead, jab jab teleport goes brrrrrr

[river meteor]

hahaha

TGG vs Johnny Test

[rancid jackal]

Yea to me when chloe was introduced the show was basically 6 feet under

[river meteor]

Then the animation changed to Flash and the characters moved too smoothly and stuck on model

[rancid jackal]

It just felt like they were dragging the show on too long

The sequel existence actually feels appropriate and necessary

[river meteor]

Them going with a new kid (not connected to Timmy) was a great choice. The premise of Fairies looking after new GodKids is already works within the world's logic

[rancid jackal]

It’s a natural thing that’s supposed to happen in their universe having Timmy being a child forever just wouldve gotten old even tho it was explained why it was happening

[kind jolt]

mid cartoon

[spare zephyr]

[rancid jackal]

Tgg?

[fallen coyote]

whiplash sound effect

[rancid jackal]

Facts

[river meteor]

Oh i meant TTG

[fallen coyote]

Teen gigans go

[rancid jackal]

Teen titans go for sure ngl

[fallen coyote]

Starring Gigan from Godzilla

[spare zephyr]

Gigan with teenage angst is terrifying

[rancid jackal]

Teen titans go got too much hate and after revisiting it, I found that it’s really not as bad as ppl were saying it was, it just that it took up 90% of cn’s airtime

And it’s not the original

[river meteor]

Teen Titans go literally have covered so much ground they created 5-6 different spin-offd within the show that could stand alone(some better than others,)

[rancid jackal]

It’s not meant to be the original tho it’s just an episodic comedy

Personally I like the comedy in the show

It had multiple running gags that stood out to me for years

And the night begins to shine was an absolute banger

[spare zephyr]

A couple episodes are weird but I like ttg

[river meteor]

Oh I'm not comparing it to Tieen Ttans 03 I was saying all the interesting things TTG have done

[kind jolt]

Teen Titans go is underrated and I say that as a huge Teen Titans fan, watch the Teen Titans vs Teen Titans Go crossover movie and you'll understand it so much more.

The movie is good too so double the reason to watch

[rancid jackal]

They literally killed all the ttg haters with that one

[river meteor]

Two TTG spin-off that would be cool Doom Patrol and The Night Begins to Shine

[kind jolt]

Teen Titans need another show imo not a continuation of the previous Teen Titans

[rancid jackal]

Yea it should be a complete reboot of that animated universe

The entire dc animated verse needs a reboot it’s too disconnected

[kind jolt]

yes but I don't think it was ever supposed to be fully connected

[fallen coyote]

They tried retconning it with infinite crisis, "killing off" every other continuity

[kind jolt]

pretty clear some were meant to be stand alone shows

[rancid jackal]

Yea true but i liked when in 90s and the early 2000’s there was more of a continuity stemming the animated series coming out at the time

[river meteor]

TTG spin off series

Beast Boy stays with his family with the Doom Patrol

Cyborg stays with BER in the Night Begins to Shine dimension

Starfire travels the cosmos withher alien crew

Robin joins the Robin's team to fight crime

And Raven stays to help run her family bookstore

[rancid jackal]

Like when static shock met batman that was such a great episode

Static shock was a show that could’ve been stand alone but they went out of their way to connect it to the Batman Tas and the justice league tas

[kind jolt]

Which Batman?

[river meteor]

Or when Black Lighting met Static Shock

[rancid jackal]

The animated series

And by extension batman beyond

[river meteor]

Yep all connected to the DCAU

[sharp moon]

Buff IG

[river meteor]

Yes

[rancid jackal]

Everything after justice league unlimited is completely disconnected from eachother

Idk it just makes me question on the direction they plan on going after creature commandos

Like is James Gunn trying to make a seperate continuity from movies or are they trying to tie it in

[river meteor]

Well after the DCAU there was the DCAMU next the Arrowverse once that ended there was the Tomorrowverse, now we have the DCU

[rancid jackal]

I honestly think the cartoons and live action movies should be seperate

The dc cinematic universe is already confusing as it is

[river meteor]

James Gunn DCU is gonna connect moves, tv shows animation & games. At the same time there's gonna be elseworld projects i.e. Harley Qunin verse or The Batman-verse

[rancid jackal]

That makes sense

I think the Batman-verse has to tie into the dcu at some point tho the penguin and Batman are just too popular for them to go w anyone else

[pearl crag]

They have to find some way for us to spend money on the game.

You have to make good items

[river meteor]

What do you think of thr Harley Quinn-verse?

[pearl crag]

[river meteor]

And Kite Man

[rancid jackal]

Harley Quinn my favorite dc cartoon from this decade

Definitely deserves to be preserved

[river meteor]

Awesome I'm looking forward to Harley Quinn season 5 and Kite Man-Hell Yeah season 2

[rancid jackal]

Kite-man was very good too

The main thing those shows sold me on was the references and comedy

[potent stone]

Bane the goat

[thorn blade]

Man when was the last time I spoke here?

[rancid jackal]

Same

I’ve played mvs like 3 times in the past 2 months

[thorn blade]

Fr

[rancid jackal]

Got to masters in like a week then stopped playing

[thorn blade]

It's a chore to open the game

[thorn blade]

SAME! I got Masters (in my name) and then dipped out. Nothing important to do.

And no fun to be had. (For me personally)

[rancid jackal]

Yea honestly

[river meteor]

You could play NASB2 or Flash Party

[rancid jackal]

I like shields but the events recently(or just overall) are just grindy and unrewarding imo

[thorn blade]

NASB 1 made me lose faith in nickelodeon's games as it was an unfinished cash grab. Flash Party? I have no idea what that is. What is it?

[potent stone]

Im good with Multiversus and Marvel Rivals right now, NASB2? No thanks

[thorn blade]

Yeah ngl once they took Shredder out I was done. Also, have they been updating their game?

[latent bronze]

I havent played MVS since the start of Season 4

really dont like the shield mechanic

[rancid jackal]

The appeal of nasb2 is that it will always have a niche competitive scene bc it can be played offline

[thorn blade]

MVS just isn't good. They hype us up for the new season and BAM it sucks.

[river meteor]

Flash Party is a platform Fighter with original characters multiple game modes you can create guilds talk with players in game etc its pretty fun imo

[latent bronze]

I hope the game gets into a better spot, it was getting better launch-Season 2 but I think since Season 3 weve been taking steps backwards

[thorn blade]

Hm that sounds fun ngl

[thorn blade]

Fr it all started there and it didn't help with... Whobia. 😦

[river meteor]

No....

[latent bronze]

Yea more unknown characters are really cool like Nubia, but when you need to convince people to come back to your game an unknown character isnt the way to do it

Her and Banana Guard imo are both good picks wrong time characters

[rancid jackal]

I think it is mostly a content issue less of a roster issue

[potent stone]

ohhh I know which one you're talking about, I get bored very quickly to be honest

[thorn blade]

Yeah Nubia is fine overall. But, come on that was horrible timing.

[potent stone]

Oh wrong ping

[river meteor]

One unknown character Isn't gonna crash the game....

[thorn blade]

Exactly. I find that Nubia is somewhat of a cool fighter. Her skins are good too.

[rancid jackal]

The last 6 months have basically been the same event types and rifts

[thorn blade]

No, but it's not bringing anyone either.

[latent bronze]

Im not saying shes gonna bring the game crashing down on her own

but she doesnt help

[thorn blade]

This

[latent bronze]

especially when the games rep is in the toilet

[thorn blade]

Exactly my point. That's like bringing some random unknown swordsman from Batman or smth who had a name. No one is downloading or booting up MVS for that.

[rancid jackal]

Nubia wasn’t the best choice but in retrospective it really doesn’t matter who they add if ppl don’t feel like they have a reason to play

[thorn blade]

Nubia was literally nobody until she was added to MVS.

[rancid jackal]

Battle passes and rifts aren’t enough to keep ppl interested

[river meteor]

And timing?? What the perfect timing? Ppl have praised & or complained about MVS since beta Nubia added ingredients Isn't gonna affect that

[thorn blade]

Look at her yt trailer views

[latent bronze]

agreed

[thorn blade]

For a live service game, they need players.

[thorn blade]

FACTS!!! And don't get me started on ranked.

[latent bronze]

New characters in a fighting game is the main way to attract and retain players way over any other thing they can add

when the game doesnt have a stable playerbase, and you add a nobody

not many people care

[thorn blade]

70k views want to know what Raven has?

[rancid jackal]

Nubia wasn’t a factor in the game falling off don’t get me wrong it didn’t help but it’s not the main reason for the game being where it is right now

[latent bronze]

correct

[thorn blade]

507k views

[thorn blade]

True

[paper jolt]

E

[rancid jackal]

But even Raven couldn’t get the steam charts past 1.3k

[latent bronze]

I think the games reputation is a little too far gone now

I mean its not a great look in all honesty

[thorn blade]

Ngl true. The issue lies in the game itself. The modes and such. It's a boring game, especially since it's an unbalanced mess.

Imagine if MVS was a good game. Adding Nubia wouldn't annoy anyone. The only reason ppl play this game is for the IP characters they bring.

[latent bronze]

Nintendo can get away with it cause they already have a massive wide appeal roster + for every Min Min theres a Steve

[thorn blade]

Nubia is actually fine the way she is. A cool character and she didn't destroy MVS. BUT, horrible timing.

[rancid jackal]

When fortnite came back out with dc skins all I kept seeing ppl say was “I’m glad Warner bros realized mvs was a failure” that seems to be the general consensus from outsiders of this community

[river meteor]

Exactly people keep using Nubia a scapegoat to take issues they already have with MVS & place the blame on her...it's really ridiculous

[latent bronze]

Which I do think MVS has a good amount of wide appeal but I think there is some brand redundancy in the roster atm

[thorn blade]

Yep especially with the whole unicorndog controversy

[thorn blade]

Indeed she's not the issue. She just didn't help much with the issue.

MVS has been a game full of issues since the very beginning.

[latent bronze]

ive seen a good couple of people think that MVS is closed again

[thorn blade]

Idk what PFG is doing or what WB is making them do.

[river meteor]

If she's not the issue why single her out among the rest of the characters?

[thorn blade]

Bc I'll always remember what her addition did.

The chat full of discontent. The steam charts brought low.

[rancid jackal]

For me it’s the game balance, lack of fun content, lack of offline/couch co-op and overpriced skins

[river meteor]

Which is??

[latent bronze]

Because she is the character that got generally panned by audiences which hurts the game even in a small way

She is between PPG and Raven, not very comparable

[thorn blade]

She wasn't The issue. But she definitely was an issue based on her timing of release.

[thorn blade]

FR no one says, "WOOHOO they added Nubia! I'm definitely downloading it now."

They're too focused on PPG and Raven not to mention Marceline

[latent bronze]

the game should be front loading many many really popular characters to get folks interested in the title

imo

[rancid jackal]

Mvs was generous with free currency but it got overshadowed by the ridiculous price of skins

[latent bronze]

ye

[thorn blade]

Not someone ppl have never heard of before and don't care too. Amazons aren't popular ngl. Wonder Woman is but that's about it.

[mental raft]

Overwatch syndrome

[thorn blade]

Indeed I hope PFG realizes this.

[river meteor]

1st trailer of the game I showed to someone was Nubia's trailer & they were hooked

[latent bronze]

I didnt know there were other wonder women before Nubia happened tbh

[rancid jackal]

You can get a lot of free currency but what’s the point if you still can barely afford anything

[thorn blade]

Were they a DC fan?

[coral quarry]

Nubia was really being pushed in the comics in the last year or so, too. Just FYI. It felt like a tie-in to that.

[rancid jackal]

Also the fighter road is anti-new player

[thorn blade]

Exactly.

[latent bronze]

all characters should be free with no grinding to the player

insane how it isnt

[thorn blade]

Your friend is one of millions. One person liking Nubia isn't going to help with the lack of players..

[thorn blade]

Exactly.

[river meteor]

It's bc DC rarely explores Wonder Woman's mythology or her family how many WW villains can you name?

[latent bronze]

none

[rancid jackal]

Marvel rivals showing exactly why that was the best thing to do

[latent bronze]

yep

[thorn blade]

Ares

Cheetah

[latent bronze]

mind you im only a casual enjoyer of DC and dont have any in depth knowledge of it

[thorn blade]

Those are the only two I can think of rn

[rancid jackal]

More players would’ve been playing the game and in turn, made more money

[latent bronze]

full agree

[thorn blade]

Fr

[river meteor]

Exactly doesn't mean they're bad characters they just haven't had the chance to be in other forms of media

[thorn blade]

Which is why you don't bring them to MVS when ppl are rdy to delete the game over the game's issues.

[rancid jackal]

The game was already on the fall off imo they could’ve anybody and the result still would’ve been the same

[latent bronze]

if you wanted to have people come to the game to test it out and the new character is a 3rd party would you add Mickey Mouse or Ned Flanders

probably Mickey

[rancid jackal]

I understand the logic but if that were the case the playerbase would’ve skyrocketed w Raven and Marcy and yet…

[warped rampart]

I find it absolutely crazy that some of these skins cost $20

[latent bronze]

very true

[thorn blade]

Hm possibly but imagine if they brought Darkseid or Green Lantern. It would fall off yes but it would last longer. I still remember doing that Nubia rift and thinking to myself, "This is boring, let me play something else." Now that's not Nubia's fault, that's the rift. But. what does Nubia have in common with PPG?

All seasons bring 2 characters that share something in common

[latent bronze]

Unfortunately I think the game is following the path of Suicide Squad

[rancid jackal]

Girl power

[thorn blade]

and don't say that they're both girls.

[coral quarry]

The skins are definitely too expensive. The ones that include new animations and voice lines I can see being at least more than the ones that are just recolors, but the current prices are bad.

[thorn blade]

Nothing. They share nothing in common other than their gender.

[latent bronze]

I think being super hero women is like the thing for the season

[rancid jackal]

I literally think that was their marketing strat that season lol

[latent bronze]

ye

[thorn blade]

I guess so.

[languid plaza]

I think we should add cookie run kingdom into the game

[river meteor]

PFG added Nubia shes fun character with a unique move set & PFG is able be creative with a character who's popularity is on the rise

[thorn blade]

Yes they can do that.

As I uninstall the game due to boredom 😭

Not trying to be rude but I'm just not convinced by your point.

[river meteor]

That's sounds like YOU problem

[latent bronze]

I dont like being a downer about the game and I wanna support it how I can, its why I have this mod position, but if the game keeps following its current path then I dont see it getting to season 6/7

[languid plaza]

Can you blame azi? This game isn’t the best rn

[rancid jackal]

Did I want Nubia? No

Were there better chars to add instead? Yes

Is she responsible for the games failure? No

Does she deserve her roster spot? Yes

[coral quarry]

I do run into people playing as Nubia a lot, so she's definitely getting picked.

[brave flax]

If LeBron were to die IRL (hypothetically, of course) Would MVS remove him or (perchance) give him a skin 🤔

[rancid jackal]

Depends on lebrons estate

[thorn blade]

Actually, it sounds more like your issue. Whenever someone mentions Nubia in a bad light you come to her defense. We had a hour discussion months ago bc of that. I'm done with this. Nubia was not a good pick during that time but she is a cool character with a good moveset.

[thorn blade]

Indeed she is.

I'm just saying the timing for her release was bad.

[languid plaza]

Being fr I disagree with Nubia. There so many other popular cooler character they could’ve chosen

[rancid jackal]

That’s bc she has an interesting moveset

[brave flax]

Ladies, Ladies, calm down! There's enough of me for everyone 😎

[thorn blade]

Exactly this.

[latent bronze]

everyones got different tastes in the game too

[thorn blade]

This is true.

[latent bronze]

I actually have a big distaste for her moveset

[thorn blade]

Ngl same. But I see what PFG was doing. Pretty neat.

[latent bronze]

I like characters like Rick that got a bunch of crazy stuff they can do, she is bland to me

but different strokes for different folks

[thorn blade]

True she's a fusion of WW and Banana Guard.

[coral quarry]

Does anyone else wonder why they don't show Mojo Jojo on his ship when we have his name and voice and silhouette? It just seems like a weird omission.

[thorn blade]

With slight differences.

[thorn blade]

Good question, I would love to see him added.

[rancid jackal]

I find her moveset very complex compared to the vast amount of braindead chars in the game

[thorn blade]

True.. Shaggy smh

[latent bronze]

It could be complex to string together, I just dont find it engaging for whatever reason

[languid plaza]

They should make multiversus mojo versus for April fools

[river meteor]

You keep saying timing this and that yet thr same can be said about any character that isn't one person's favorite or not know to said person the arguments you & most ppl say are simplistic, & unjustified

[rancid jackal]

I don’t think I’ve seen more variety in gameplay styles w any other character more than Nubia

[thorn blade]

Ok well here's something for you. PPG isn't my favorite. Marceline isn't either. Yet I find that they were good additions.

Jason back then wasn't my favorite.

[languid plaza]

Fearful divine get out

[river meteor]

Same for Nubia

[sharp moon]

I love buying figures and not waiting for after market prices a $60 figure went to $300 that quickly bought 3

[thorn blade]

I disagree. You are free to have your opinion. I will not try to dissuade you from that.

Either way MVS will fall.

[latent bronze]

unfortunately probably

[thorn blade]

Indeed 😔

[rancid jackal]

If we’re talking strictly about the the state of the game and playerbase( just my opinion btw) then characters are not the reason for its lack of success

[thorn blade]

Yeah it's legit just boring.

[latent bronze]

I dont like being pessimistic about it but its not gonna see another christmas

[river meteor]

I disagree & you're free to have that opinion

[thorn blade]

Rifts are hot garbage.

[latent bronze]

Rifts arent fun

[thorn blade]

Remember I never said die, I said fall.

[river meteor]

Semantics

[thorn blade]

They can pick it up.

[thorn blade]

Lol yeah

[brave flax]

What do yall consider "toxic behavior"

[latent bronze]

I do wish PFG would address issues with the game more head on than adding core mechanics to the game that werent meant to be there

makes the game feel very clunky

[river meteor]

[latent bronze]

and makes them look like they dont have a clear vision

[thorn blade]

"Toxic behavior in gaming is harmful, negative, and abusive actions, language, or attitudes that players exhibit towards other players."

[rancid jackal]

Rifts are boring, arena was bugged and honestly, unbalanced and boring, wacky weekends had potential but it’s got a limited time slot to play w, ranked is a toxic cesspool of spammers and there is 0 enjoyment to be had offline w the game

[thorn blade]

Fr

[thorn blade]

Bc they don't. Otherwise they wouldn't have released shields while a ledge bug remains.

[river meteor]

Well this is there first game as a company despite the level experience a f2p live game is daunting task

[thorn blade]

💯

[rancid jackal]

Make all fighters free and give us other ways to progress in the game

[brave flax]

Man I despise the "cryptic" messages Ajax posts on X. Don't tell him tho 🙏

[latent bronze]

the game is very clearly made to be centric around the act of dodging and "parrying", yet when people complain about spamming they just haphazadly add a shield, thats rough

[thorn blade]

True

[light badge]

What are we talking about today in the official multiversus discord server?

[thorn blade]

Because they don't know how to balance, nor does their team.

[languid plaza]

Guys 10 reactions and I’ll delete the game

[latent bronze]

I can sympathize that this is PFGs first real game, but having it in beta, slowly lose players, take it away for a year only for history to repeat itself is a very bad look

it shows something is faulty at the foundation of the design

[rancid jackal]

Imho I think shields added a layer of nuance that didn’t exist before they were added, now it feels like whenever I get hit there was always something I could’ve done to prevent it

[latent bronze]

and something somewhere needs to be changed

[thorn blade]

Can't react here but: 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[brave flax]

Shields were a great add. shield breaks are stupid, might as well add grabs 💔

[languid plaza]

Anyone else?

[latent bronze]

fair point

[light badge]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[brave flax]

[trim cedar]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[thorn blade]

It is. They don't learn.

[rancid jackal]

It’s the very nature of having a platform fighter be a live service game

[languid plaza]

Okay enough is enough good bye 500 ppg wins

[thorn blade]

Do we need to "99% players gone" the game again?

[light badge]

[latent bronze]

I just think that PFG is honestly winging it instead of having a plan of attack for what they want the future of the game to look like

[thorn blade]

Maybe they'll change things for the better now. 😦

[languid plaza]

Man I’m sad I worked so hard on the game

[rancid jackal]

Def winging it

[thorn blade]

They need to hire someone with experience in that field.

[latent bronze]

Whether thats them, or WB, or someone in the middle its gotta be fixed

[brave flax]

Like me 😎

[spare lantern]

nah bro im godlike with jake

[languid plaza]

Same guy who said ladies ladies btw

[brave flax]

You got the wrong guy 🙏

[rancid jackal]

Autotech shields and even ranked were all things released shortly after developing

[spare zephyr]

Game is already improving

[languid plaza]

Proof

[spare lantern]

i won a goated bugs bunny with Jake "Jake sucks""""

[latent bronze]

Game design and balance is a very percarious balancing act that they are stumbling on a bit

[languid plaza]

A bit?

[thorn blade]

Indeed

[latent bronze]

lol

[trim cedar]

Once I faced a Samurai Jack who had no skill and was spamming the specials, I knew the game was over...

[languid plaza]

Buddy IVE lost to people who use nothing but one move

[spare lantern]

guys what characters is more disliked actually in the game, Marvin or jake

[rancid jackal]

They definitely have been winging it up till this point

[brave flax]

People complain about hitboxes like SSBU didn't have some wacky stuff 💔

[trim cedar]

The beta was so much better

[spare lantern]

nahhh

[brave flax]

6/10 take

[trim cedar]

New MVS is slow

[spare lantern]

Beta was broken and full of problems

[brave flax]

3/10 take

[latent bronze]

one feature I absolutely detest is the pity bot match in pubs

[thorn blade]

Don't compare the Peak game that is SSBU to MVS

[latent bronze]

if I lose let me lose

[languid plaza]

Imma go play fortnite, doom etneral, dmc collection, dragon ball xenoverse 2, the Arkham series, roblox fnf and wtv other games I have laying around my library

[brave flax]

Hot take, the best smash bros was brawl. SSBU is hot buns 💔

[thorn blade]

ARKHAM SERIES 🔥

[trim cedar]

Brawl is fun

[spare lantern]

SSBU have problems too, Toxicity, characters that """"broke""" the game like Steve, G&W, Sonic

[thorn blade]

Ik I'm just joking

[latent bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-quagmire-glen-jaw-gif-22600043

[languid plaza]

Soon it will be done

[thorn blade]

I'll never forget Donket Kong grabbing me and jumping off the edge to throw me

[latent bronze]

would you kill me if I said I am a Sonic main

[spare lantern]

obviusly SSBU is waaayyyyy better than MVS

[thorn blade]

Nah Brawl was alr

[latent bronze]

I actually fight and not time out though

[spare lantern]

actually but multiversus potential is crazy

[thorn blade]

FR believe it or not I don't want it to die.

[brave flax]

What do yall know bout subspace emissary 💔

[latent bronze]

this is the saddest part, MVS has so much potential but its not being realized

[spare lantern]

your main is sonic?? bro delete your account

[spare zephyr]

P+ the best smash game btw

[trim cedar]

MVS was the closest game to dethroning SSBU

[brave flax]

Ew

[kind jolt]

If it survives the game will be big again

[latent bronze]

that Sonic is essential to the story and if he wasnt there everyone woulda died

[thorn blade]

Facts

[trim cedar]

Too bad they ruined it

[latent bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-tch-no-no-uh-uh-nu-uh-gif-25132903

[thorn blade]

LOL

[brave flax]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, perchance

[river meteor]

Well that would require additional animations & moves al of which will take lots of time developing balancing and testing

[thorn blade]

Who's your main?

[spare lantern]

is a good oportunity of a game, it would be sad if the game dies again

[thorn blade]

Hm I think they can make time to do that.

[trim cedar]

Warner Bros Gaming wya

[brave flax]

Thanks for asking me, I'm actually very sexy irl and main Fox

[thorn blade]

If it does, I will have wasted money.

[spare lantern]

the second owner of the game is warner bros, what do you expected, sadly they have no love to their games

[languid plaza]

-500$ for me

[river meteor]

How can you speak such Blasphemy!!??!!

[latent bronze]

seeing how Suicide Squad went, yea have to agree

[thorn blade]

[ionic swan]

Does broken wings give IG more fuel when hit?

[buoyant monolith]

I know look at brawlhalla and how it's doing

[thorn blade]

EXACTLY! Nah that's gotta be the biggest L take I've seen

[ionic swan]

Asking for science

[brave flax]

I speak only in facts

[latent bronze]

my smash hot take is that Melee is an extremely overrated and broken game and its not fun in a competitive sense

[thorn blade]

I agree. Never played it tho.

[brave flax]

Completely incorrect

[rancid jackal]

But hopefully even if mvs gets shutdown hopefully wb can take something away from this to make a better game in the future

[trim cedar]

Melee is a masterpiece beloved to the true fans and loved by the casuals

[ionic swan]

Melee is so boring and washed tbh, the only people who would disagree are the already small melee playerbase

[thorn blade]

Or revive it with a new team or smth

[rancid jackal]

If we can learn anything from the beta is that there is an open market for platform fighters and a high interest in wb properties

[latent bronze]

I think the game is fun casually dont get me wrong, but the comp scene is not fun to play (watch yes)

[brave flax]

MVS should like hire me as the discord mascot, ik that EVERYONE here agrees

[thorn blade]

Indeed

[ionic swan]

Let me farm their emotions

[thorn blade]

They could do so much more with this server.

[spare lantern]

i havent played a lot of SSBU just in my cousin house but if i should choose a character to main, i would main Olimar

[languid plaza]

Should I keep climbing ranked to boost my ego or nah

[brave flax]

You aren't human bro 💔

[river meteor]

Idk If my sarcasm is understood (I like both games)

[trim cedar]

Is Ben 10 out?

[spare zephyr]

You should delete like you said

[spare lantern]

lol why

[ionic swan]

Climb because you can lol if you cant just enjoy what you can

[thorn blade]

Darn 😦

[languid plaza]

Not gonna enjoy yelling at my tv to die

[brave flax]

Good question

[thorn blade]

Oh wow

[ionic swan]

🗿

[languid plaza]

But hey my mom I can stay up as long as I want and yell as loud as I want (she didn’t)

[spare lantern]

is he broken or why that reaction

[river meteor]

How can you look into the face of perfection😇 andvsay :nahhh I'm good"

[thorn blade]

I don't find a lot of Olimar players.

[brave flax]

We listen and we don't judge

[languid plaza]

Little mac main here

[trim cedar]

When is Ben 10 coming out

[brave flax]

Why are you asking us bro 🧐

[rancid jackal]

New looney tunes movie announced and still no daffy in mvs?

[spare lantern]

i think Olimar is not very recognized

[thorn blade]

Fr

[thorn blade]

W choice. I used to main him for a bit. I main more than one character at a time.

[rancid jackal]

Smash just has a lot of chars to pick from

I really wish smash had more than 1 sonic char

[thorn blade]

We getting ||Lola|| before him smh

[brave flax]

Half of them are clones dawg 💔

[river meteor]

I think SSBU is great! the singer of the main theme is the voice of Wonder Woman in MVS!

COINCIDENCE?? I THINK NOT!!!

[thorn blade]

Lol nice Incredibles reference.

[brave flax]

If SSBU locked in and put the game up on console/PC, it would EASILY take out MVS 💔

[trim cedar]

SSBU is garbage

[thorn blade]

I wish they did.

[brave flax]

8/10 take

[rancid jackal]

I hope we never get smash 6 and just rereleases of ssbu with new characters for every new Nintendo console release

[thorn blade]

Yep you're banned.

[river meteor]

Season 5: Lola for Valentines day event Daffy for an alien invasion event

[trim cedar]

It's all about that SSBM

[brave flax]

I take it back, 5/10 take

[rancid jackal]

Ssbu deluxe over ssb6

[thorn blade]

Sadly no.

[trim cedar]

That smooth rollback Netplay on Slippi

[thorn blade]

Actually not sadly

We're getting A-man

[river meteor]

No as in you don't want it or as in it won't happen

[rancid jackal]

The biggest crime that Nintendo did was not remastering any of the older smash bros

[thorn blade]

Won't happen

[river meteor]

Feb is the perfect time for Daffy bc of his movie

[thorn blade]

eh not rly a crime leaves room for the nostalgia.

[rancid jackal]

Nintendo

Won’t remaster their games

Nintendo

Wonders why we pirate and emulate their older games

[trim cedar]

I wanted MVS to succeed because Nintendo sucks

[thorn blade]

Leaks say different 😦

You would think PFG would do that but nah.

[thorn blade]

Then they shut down those emulators. Like dude no one is buying a old nintendo console to play melee.

[thorn blade]

Nintendo is weird at times.

[river meteor]

I'm still upset they didn't Do anything for WB100th Anniversary Even TTG celebrated it

[trim cedar]

Of all the platformers I still believe MVS was the closest to dethroning Smash from its #1 platformer spot

[ionic swan]

I think sometimes people Give Nintendo alittle too much credit just because they’re a legacy company. Alot of the good staff that made the company what it is are either retired or moved on by now

[rancid jackal]

That’s if you can even find one that works or is affordable

[deep crescent]

Jack and Nubia are my new nightmare duo, reach a million miles and zero whiff end lag

[river meteor]

But does it have to? Why can't they both exist MVS can run its own race

[ionic swan]

Switch2 about to have an Xbox Series S videoCard but run like Junk because nintendo gonna skip on the hardware in some form still lol

[rancid jackal]

Smash will be it’s own dethroner if they don’t come out w the switch 2 soon

[river meteor]

Agent Smith & Nubia are a deadly combo

[trim cedar]

They certainly can, I enjoyed MVS in its beta and early in the full release but as of recent the gameplay is too slow

[rancid jackal]

Nobody wants to play games at 720p resolution 30 fps anymore it’s 2025

[trim cedar]

It feels like forever to KO someone

[ionic swan]

Smash kinda already imploding on itself due to the lack of support from Nintendo and the playerbase that eats itself alive

Smash probably will never have RollBack unless they change how the game works as a whole

[trim cedar]

💯

[rancid jackal]

Mvs goal is survival not success anymore lol

[ionic swan]

Mvs doesnt have to be huge, but the playerbase seems to think that

[rancid jackal]

Needs to be released on a more powerful console

[ionic swan]

The devs already cutdown on staff I think, which can be a good thing actually, this game will last longer if they sustain costs actually

[rancid jackal]

Netcode will always be a problem with a system that lacks Ethernet cables on half the consoles that exists

[ionic swan]

No reason games need the devs spending truckloads of money on development. Its been proven it’s never sustainable

[river meteor]

Nintendo isn't interested in making Smash that kind of game most of their games are more casual & made for local co-op *excluding Animal Crossing

[bold brook]

huh forgot the game is fun whenever it is fun. still needs improvements

[ionic swan]

Im ok with it being casual, but theres an aggressively pushed competitive scene by some of the playerbase that killed the game for me.

Im ok being competitive, but smash aint it.

[rancid jackal]

One thing I think would help with progression in mvs if they made every character free and the only thing you have to grind for be skins

[deep crescent]

Nubia spear being a shield break hurts my soul

[ionic swan]

I feel make older characters free and make players grind for the new ones currently

[rancid jackal]

Overwatch 1 is a great example of ppl grinding and playing the game just to unlock more cosmetics

[lone trench]

Her grab?

[deep crescent]

Yeah, her extendo spear grab

[ionic swan]

Smash ult had us buy a pack of characters we didn’t even know what they were until later lol

[rancid jackal]

I think just making all the characters free is the best way, that way new players can experience whoever they want without feeling like they have to grind hard

[trim cedar]

Tru

[rancid jackal]

Now you don’t have to focus on unlocking characters. You can simply just enjoy the game

[lone trench]

It’s fair, her shield breaker attack is literally trash.

And you can literally react to her grab it’s not OP

[bold brook]

tbf the roster being free should be from the start

[lone trench]

You can’t name me a character with a more worse shield breaker attack than Nubia’s

[rancid jackal]

In retrospective yes

[rancid jackal]

She don’t need it to bypass shields tho her nspec is way better

[lone trench]

Yea in 2s maybe

[river meteor]

Brawllhalla doesn't give characters free and its being running for 10 years and it's gameplay is far more simplistic & formulaic

[rancid jackal]

Brawlhalla also has a better system for unlocking characters

[deep crescent]

No character should have essentially a ranged shield break

[rancid jackal]

Brawlhalla coins is just mvs beta but more generous

The time spent for unlocking each char in Brawlhalla feels adequate

And actually doable

[lone trench]

Unless you it’s a slow start up move. Just do this #clips message

[river meteor]

As a Nubia main it sounds like that was targeted towards me

Lmao

[rancid jackal]

Imo the main grind in mvs should literally be for skins and nothing else

[languid plaza]

My teammates make me so pissed WHAT ARE YOU DOING

[rancid jackal]

You shouldn’t have to grind just to play a char you like

[languid plaza]

This brain dead people bro costing me all the rp I’ve earned

[rancid jackal]

Happens in any game with teammates

[lone trench]

Just carry

[torpid barn]

where your jake grind at

I've made it back to plat 1 finally 👅

[lone trench]

He’s not playable in higher level.

Jake so bad

[torpid barn]

People say skill issue to me when I say that 😡

[bold brook]

Jake is the definition of mid-tier in my opinion. has potential but gets stomped by better characters

[plucky goblet]

You can try out the characters in practice mode and rifts, but yeah. If they give out fighter currency more often, then you can just unlock whoever you want without using the fighter road. Also, I think they should give you the option to unlock the new character by buying the battle pass

[torpid barn]

its not fair

[languid plaza]

they jsut stand there doing NOTHING

[rancid jackal]

I say screw that, just make everyone free like marvel rivals, and figure out a better way to make money

[rancid jackal]

Gatekeeping characters only makes ppl stop playing the game

[lone trench]

I have won a game where my teammates did 60 damage and got 0 kills #clips message 😤

[torpid barn]

true

[plucky goblet]

But you can’t really earn many costumes for free in Marvel Rivals. I wouldn’t want Multiversus to stop giving out free skins

[spare lantern]

nah i won a pro taz

[languid plaza]

I need a good partner dude like seriously

[lone trench]

Who was that?

[deep crescent]

So many braindead Jasons today

[rancid jackal]

Rivals gave away like 4 skins for free in the first month of the game wdym

[languid plaza]

Imma go play Fortnite

[torpid barn]

you can get yourself a nice skin with units from doing achievements too

[plucky goblet]

The skins are expensive though

[lone trench]

Isn’t that the point

[languid plaza]

Like genuinely I cannot WIHT ranked

[spare lantern]

i dont know why everyone think he mid-tier, i play Jake and feel like he is strong

[lone trench]

You play a character for free, if you want it to look better mod it or pay up

[rancid jackal]

Facts there are enough achievements and free units to unlock pretty much any 1 skin you want for free rn as long as you grind

[plucky goblet]

As long as you grind

[bold brook]

So it's based on it's hard to unlock characters but you can get lots of skins for free or everybody's free but skins are only paid and barley free

[rancid jackal]

I’m grinding for winter venom skin I’m close I only need 400 units and didn’t pay for any currency

[lone trench]

Any skin??

[torpid barn]

im going for the leaked cnd skin

[rancid jackal]

Rivals gives away free currency and free skins

[torpid barn]

any 1 skin

[plucky goblet]

I unlocked every single character through the fighter road pretty quickly. I only had to play about an hour a day maybe. Plus all the event skins and stuff

[spare lantern]

Jake is actually horrorific if the played is goated with him

[junior flax]

we fw my pfp?

[torpid barn]

somewhat

[lone trench]

That’s crazy, how long would it take a free to play player (who downloaded today) to get a skin worth 2000 gleamium 😪

[plucky goblet]

If you use fighter currency to unlock your main, play that one character, and it doesn’t matter that the rest are not unlocked at the start

[rancid jackal]

A new player has to win 3200 times just to unlock Marceline

And ppl wonder why new players don’t stay

[ornate flint]

It's incredible how these f..... keep nerfing SUperman.

[junior flax]

playing one character for 150 games straight can get dull

[rancid jackal]

3200-4800 games played just to reach the new character on the fighter road… yea ima just play rivals

[plucky goblet]

Marvel rivals is a team based game. It is necessary to have every character available for the sake of balance and fairness in competition. It is not necessary to have all characters unlocked in Multiversus because you only need to play one at a time.

[rancid jackal]

Mvs is team based too

[torpid barn]

people pick and choose when they call this game a 2s focused game

[rancid jackal]

They designed the game around 2v2

[plucky goblet]

Marvel rival requires certain classes to succeed in a match.

[ionic swan]

2v2 is best

[plucky goblet]

You need a healer tank dps

[rancid jackal]

Not necessarily

[plucky goblet]

It’s not required for Multiversus

[rancid jackal]

No role queue means you can run whatever roles you want on your team

You can run 6 dps if you want

[plucky goblet]

I know

[rancid jackal]

Or 6 heals

All I’m saying is mvs needs to take notes from more successful games if they want to survive

Fighter road is not it

[plucky goblet]

But in order to be more competitive you’ll need a healer or something. Which if you only had dps characters unlocked and no healers unlocked then it wouldn’t be fair. That’s why the characters are free in marvel rivals

[rancid jackal]

That’s not why all the characters are free tho

[plucky goblet]

One of the reasons

[rancid jackal]

Overwatch 2 had chars locked behind battlepasses

The game still had a meta

Marvel rivals made the roster free bc they realized they didn’t have to charge for chars to make money and making chars free incentives new player retention which is the most important factor in a games success

[bold brook]

ngl the Marvel Rivals vs Multiversus discussion always annoys me regarding the only similarly they have is they're free 2 play games based off a popular IPS.

Multiversus can learn from Rivals but it gets annoying where it feels like glazing the game

[plucky goblet]

Right. I never played overwatch but that doesn’t sound fair. Marvel Rivals made the right choice for their type of game making them free

[rancid jackal]

Mvs ain’t pulling in new players, it hasn’t since s2

[lone trench]

2v2 no skill. Nobody even tries team combos

[bold brook]

I'm not touching 1v1s no matter what the circumstances

[rancid jackal]

Rivals and fortnite are just the games to compare them to bc they’re free and at the top

[rancid jackal]

Im mainly comparing their companies business practices and not the gameplay itself

[plucky goblet]

I’m used to playing free to play mobile games, and as a f2p player I’m used to grinding. The “grind” to unlock characters through fighter road was much easier than I thought at first.

[rancid jackal]

Mvs business practices are scummy and are being outdone by Chinese mobile devs