general

[warm holly]

Thank you funky kong

[vagrant thunder]

Are you referring to the map that was a moving obstacle course?

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-cat-cute-birthday-cake-second-birthday-gif-17210152400907695880

[warm holly]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-jake-the-dog-animated-animation-cartoon-gif-15086317

jake is just like me

[junior flax]

man. Jojo fighting game is fun

[sharp moon]

Ye

[warm holly]

HURRY AP

[half cypress]

was looking at my character skins and noticed matrix code agent smith is an elusive variant, since when??

[flat breach]

I've been banned for an hour before
its usually after getting banned multiple times before in a short timeframe

[foggy magnet]

sorry about that @plucky hull ggs tho

[worn ferry]

What's MM?

[flat breach]

matchmaking, usually you get banned after crashing or getting dc'd from a match

[frail sluice]

I need marvel rivals

This is the season of corny playstyles

[hollow cradle]

There’s only like three playstyles 🙃

[frail sluice]

They chose the worst one

[hollow cradle]

I feel it tho, almost every game I have to chase down my opponent. Even in casuals 🤨

It’s crazy, if I don’t move my opp just stands in place punching the air fighting themselves lmfao

[warm holly]

you excited to get one shot by black widow? 😛

[frail sluice]

Like season 2 and season 3 I felt like I was actually fighting people in a game, why do I feel like I’m tom chasing jerry in this season

[frail sluice]

I will fry black widows with Namor

[warm holly]

I DIDNT KNOW HE WAS IN THAT GAME OMG

ADD HIM IN MVS FORGET AQUAMAN
oh wait not DC 😭

[strange fjord]

sad

[frail sluice]

Rivals is gonna be so good man

[worn ferry]

Ah ok

[bronze fox]

Hopefully the guys that join here just to say "games dead" will go to Rivals or be distracted by it

[solemn swan]

games dead

[bronze fox]

Oh you little shi-

[sand otter]

Oh crap mb.

I’m gettin on rn

@warm holly

[spark hill]

Players that actually believe that WW and Harley needs buffs are the type of players that can't play a game without a handicap setting
Come at me 🫴

[sand otter]

I do believe you are right. I will back you up on that statement

[frail sluice]

They weird

Personally, nerf everyone to the ground. When every character is bad, no one will be

[raven goblet]

No those are the people who want free wins

[novel tapir]

How do I get the arena badge?

[urban steeple]

[flat breach]

he has a team-up ability with jeff the shark

my brother would play Namor while I played jeff back in the testing phase

[vernal seal]

Dude Finn needs to be reworked why is he so quick… legit the only thing I have against him is he’s light… this game sucks dude what is this…. Omgggggggggggggg

[warm holly]

SO CUTE

[vernal seal]

Legit they see one thing on twitter and think they god

[silent nimbus]

just wait til you learn they wanted to give him his gem back (throwable item that you can teleport to)

[solemn swan]

ranked this season feesl way crazier than previous seasons

[flat breach]

his charged up ultimate ability lets him eat everyone in a circular area, you can spit them into the abyss if there is one on the map where they instantly get eliminated, assuming they don't have a way to get back up

[solemn swan]

feels like everyone is master ranked lol

[vernal seal]

Finn legit can do the same combo all game and win he’s so quick it’s unreal plus he has a speed boost and 3 attacks the reflect and destroy projectiles… he’s over powered as hell

Can’t deal with him at all as a lebron main I won the first match and couldn’t I left the end of 2nd

[thorn blade]

Yep

[kind jolt]

Finn is an assassin he makes the most sense hes made since launch

[vernal seal]

This change pfg gave him changed his speed and a few other things making him almost unplayable for lebron 😭

[warm holly]

soooo he’s Op

[kind jolt]

after getting BMO its even worse

[vernal seal]

it’s so bad dude legit 3 moves of his gets rid of projectiles 💀🙏

[sharp moon]

Discord bot added me any ideas what I should say : )

[brave crow]

Play marvel snap

[vernal seal]

You’ve said enough with ur name

[glossy breach]

buff joker thanks

[kind jolt]

"Multiversus has

1. auto teching/ tech chase looping (baby mode mechanic)
2. awful perk system (80% of characters run 5% and no variety of team perks)
3. clunky/slow gameplay
4. No movement
5. Unbearably long hit pause
6. EXTREMELY high dmg output and knockback still??
   I could care less if shields get added or not now, but I will say I think it’s very stupid to keep adding onto the pile of poorly designed mechanics instead of fixing the core gameplay. Now that sht makes no sense to me. I don’t think that’s unreasonable to believe. the game has lost so much of its original identity that made it enjoyable to me in THE FIRST PLACE. Just my opinion btw"

https://x.com/CrazyBlaizzy/status/1863743967428481519?t=iPwGAWJI8UHazVt8IntL4w&s=19

Blaizzy is 1000% correct

[vernal seal]

Just won against a bugs bunny w 1k wins both games, god my heart it can’t take it 😭🙏

5 ranked match wins in a row

[solemn swan]

do better

[vernal seal]

No 😭 this game ain’t my life like 90% of the community

Why is half nubias kit true? 😭 it’s just weird no combos no nothing just true

[hollow hollow]

yes

[spice laurel]

I feel bad for all of you that think that Jack is some kind of top tier

[bronze fox]

Shaggys brains 24/7 (its secretly a potato with wires in it)

[hollow cradle]

He a top tier in the annoying department

[warm holly]

^^

[spice laurel]

Still not more annoying than a top tier

[kind jolt]

disagree

Jack is literally everything wrong with the game sorted into one character

[spice laurel]

Ok hater

[kind jolt]

Im not ashamed

[kind jolt]

What about this is incorrect 🤷‍♂️

[spice laurel]

You should be for not saying Iron Giant is everything wrong in MVS in a character

[unreal gyro]

Jack is honest as hell in 1s idk what you mean.

[kind jolt]

Thats a Joke character though

[spice laurel]

Bruh

[kind jolt]

Like Banana Guard

[worthy turret]

i wish these charcters werent so broken

[kind jolt]

His edge guarding is broken in both game modes and his jab is outrageous in both

[grizzled bane]

Ladies ladies stop the fighting we all know Jason is the goat in this game there's no need to ramble about such loser characters

[worthy turret]

pfftt no he aint

[spice laurel]

He is lol

[worthy turret]

nah u smoking something

[spice laurel]

He telegraphs exactly what he does before does it

[kind jolt]

So does shaggy

[worthy turret]

only for 1 move

plus that telegraph hits the entire state of texas

[kind jolt]

Jack's game plan is bait for a jab, get the jab and try to tech chase with side special and hopefully get you on edge where you lose 90% of the time

That's just lame and gross

Everything wrong with MVS

[spice laurel]

And no where near as strong

[unreal gyro]

Jack requires reads to get anywhere / edgeguard really easily, maybe be less predictable with your recovery for once.

[open girder]

agree

[worthy turret]

does not make it any less cheesey

[unreal gyro]

I've seen people whine about aerial finn side b which is literally a skill check move

[open girder]

the only way his jab gets actual reward is wrong DI or if u re a big char, but u can still avoid his tech reads pretty easily

[unreal gyro]

Been trying out some Jack lately, actually really fun ngl

[open girder]

he s lots of fun for reading

[unreal gyro]

As a Finn maim he felt right at home lol

[spice laurel]

What’s cheesy about needing to get reads?

[open girder]

oh yeah

[unreal gyro]

"Erm actually reads take no skill, you can rob an entire stock because you predicted someone once." 🤓

[open girder]

bro s about to make the most obvious panic dodge near blastzone and he expects to get away with it

[unreal gyro]

Me when i catch onto a habbit mid match and abuse said habit to get an early kill confirm

[novel tapir]

I’m retiring this game bruh

[warm holly]

HABBIT?

[unreal gyro]

Jack and Finn's side b are honestly such a crazy read punish it's insane lol

[warm holly]

for why

[unreal gyro]

Hi wildcardddd

[warm holly]

habit is spelled with one b bb

👋

[worthy turret]

u must be a cheese dispenser

[unreal gyro]

Oh shoot my bad!

[open girder]

true but also dangerous

[warm holly]

Rabbit 🐇 is spelled like that XD

[unreal gyro]

I may be really good at English but it still isn't my native language (unfortunately lmao)

[open girder]

same

[novel tapir]

I don’t have fun on this game like I used to

[open girder]

damn

[potent night]

What?

[wraith geyser]

Hewwo everypony nwn! 💗 💝 💝 💗

[open girder]

helloo

[unreal gyro]

Hello, Melissa!

Having to grind 2 battlepass simultaneously sure is something lmao

[novel tapir]

I felt content with this game cause it really good at it, but then I reach that hierarchy where it’s just toxic players b2b

[spice laurel]

Fr

[novel tapir]

They don’t even play the game fair they just bait a chase down by constantly running away so they can trigger endless combos

[worthy turret]

or use a whole two buttons of there entire moveset

[wraith geyser]

How is shu all doing =3? I wish you all the best 🤗💝

[unreal gyro]

Doing good! About to head to the animal shelter to do some charity work.

[novel tapir]

I miss the good sportsmanship tbh

[worthy turret]

now its all about trying to convince people your broken characters is not broken or spammy but in fact perfectly fair and balanced

[wraith geyser]

Im glad =D! Aww thats cute, you are a good person, I appreciate your work there 💗

[unreal gyro]

Means a lot to me, honest <3

[worthy turret]

enough losing for today, i wish someday Harley player will learn the have other moves they can do, but thats a big ask of brain rot

[hollow hollow]

Every Harley is doing the sair loop

[visual trail]

good morning zaebead. you trying to ft10 today?

[worthy turret]

actual brain damage loop

[oblique knot]

Buff Tom please

[worthy turret]

delete jerry

[oblique knot]

Casually taking away a whole part of the character

[unreal gyro]

T&J are still insanely good what are you on about

[worthy turret]

delete tom?

[unreal gyro]

They removed your loops and y'all act like t&j are worthless now.

[oblique knot]

The meta is horrible for them rn either buff tom or nerf the meta

[oblique knot]

I don’t want loops

[open girder]

nerf the meta

[oblique knot]

Finns WWs Aryas smiths are all terrible matchups for Tom

[worthy turret]

new meta is trying to convince people your broken characters is not broken or spammy but in fact perfectly fair and balanced

[open girder]

arya and smith needs to fall

[wraith geyser]

Is there a way of using Tom and Jerry without spamming =c? I wanna use T&J.exe but I don't wanna spam pwp

[oblique knot]

Finn needs his sair reworked again

[unreal gyro]

Finn is literally fine there's bigger issues right now

[worthy turret]

i can at least smack smith around

[oblique knot]

Tom relies on tech or di predictions

[worthy turret]

lol no

[wraith geyser]

Oooh, like Jason, right c=?

[oblique knot]

They said nerf smith jab and they said it’s a “nerf” but he still has all his loops off jab

[oblique knot]

Perhaps

[worthy turret]

oh i know

[unreal gyro]

Compared to most loops smith's take quite a bit to learn, doesn't mean i don't want them gone tho.

[oblique knot]

Super man loops are also insane

So are jokers

[worthy turret]

im ashamed i share my username with him now

[unreal gyro]

I just hate superman as a whole, they should only get armor once they charged their stuff halfway through

[wraith geyser]

I wonder if there will be a ugly sweater Fern in the event =000

[oblique knot]

The meta consists of shaggy smith WW Arya Finn BG and joker all are super bad for Tom btw

[unreal gyro]

Would be dope but i dount it sadly

[worthy turret]

good

[unreal gyro]

The only way Finn can like, deal with tom's projectiles is side b and bmo, both options leaving him wide open

[oblique knot]

Side B goes into his up tilt which is so stupid

[unreal gyro]

It has endlag if it whiffs??

[worthy turret]

him and WW get that armor stuff so quick is so dumb

[oblique knot]

You have to play incredibly aerial with Tom if you go against Finn so I have trouble punishing him

[unreal gyro]

Literally, and imo as a Jason main i rather have him get armor when he's actually out to grab you, the fact he gets it frame 1 is so stupid

[oblique knot]

Don’t get me wrong I’m a great tom but it’s so annoying fighting for my life just for finn to jab jab IAD nair double sair me

[wraith geyser]

Oh, if that doesn't happen I will choice Marcy nwn I guess there will be new ugly sweater variants, I just hope they don't make some of em elusive 😔

[unreal gyro]

That's not true

[worthy turret]

i know, i have to travel so far just to be away from it

[oblique knot]

Jab jab iAd nair into one sair is true

[kind jolt]

You need whiff punishes, you dont need reads to make the character work.

[oblique knot]

Double sair was just me over reacting but you get the point

[unreal gyro]

They fall out of sair 2 unless you're jason or giant

[oblique knot]

Ok is it just me or is jacks down atrial special have an absolute monstrous hitbox?

[worthy turret]

it wonky

[unreal gyro]

Little overtuned

[oblique knot]

Okay gamers hear me out and I want your opinion on this

[worthy turret]

a buncha characters have wacky hit box bs

[oblique knot]

All I ask for from a for my Jerry shot to come back BUT no loop paddle into Jerry shot but after you do it you go on lock out and you can’t use it until the opposing player is out of hitstun I don’t want loops I want my combo game back

[kind jolt]

Jacks hitboxes were designed to be stupidly massive

A lot of the hitbox problems are literally just bad character design by the MVS devs

[worthy turret]

too bad we only do jabs and loops in this game

[oblique knot]

I’m trying to prevent the loop with that lock out

I’ve never been a Tom main to abuse loops I hated it but I enjoy the combo routes it used to have

Up tilt Jerry shot into dodge jab was heavenly

[worthy turret]

i still think we should delete jerry

[oblique knot]

Jerry is a part of the game

And a part of the character you can’t just remove him

[worthy turret]

just eat the rat already ur a cat

[kind jolt]

Lets complain about Bugs' Pie instead of the mouse please

[lime ingot]

I think if your suggestion is "I want it like this but also implementing an exception so my preference doesn't break everything" you should scrap it and reconsider it from the ground up.

[worthy turret]

i remove him all the time with jasons axe

[oblique knot]

Bugs pie is completely fine

[kind jolt]

No its blatantly overtuned

[oblique knot]

WHAT

[kind jolt]

blatantly

[arctic river]

arya stark is too broken

[oblique knot]

Bro what are you smoking Becuase I want some man

Somebody get the narcan

[lime ingot]

Regardless of Tom's balancing, however, Jerry should die instantly to armor break attacks just like Bugs' safe does and shouldn't have a hitbox when hitting back a tennis ball.

[worthy turret]

he shoudl be a risk to throw out, buggers got too much hp

[kind jolt]

Is the T&J main downplaying projectiles 😦

[lime ingot]

Once we nerf on-field Jerry, we can move on to Tom.

[oblique knot]

Can we press F to pay respects for bugs btw he’s gone😔

[oblique knot]

Bro what’s overtuned about pie

[lime ingot]

He's like, really high tier, S tier if you know what to do

[kind jolt]

knockback scaling

[oblique knot]

Dude it’s slow and you can deflect it

Let’s talk about bugs stun kiss it can go into itself multiple times

[lime ingot]

90% of the cast has no reflect.
I hope this helps

"Ooohhhh, Taz ate the pie!"

Yeah, he's going to eat the ever-living hell out of that up air too.

[oblique knot]

It’s still super slow you honestly agree that bugs pie is broken?

[raven goblet]

Stun doesn’t stack

[worthy turret]

buff the juice if anybody, never see people use him

[kind jolt]

In a vaccuum, do you only play in training mode?

[lime ingot]

I have yet to see it hit to begin with, but a slow projectile is better than a fast one due to area denial.

[oblique knot]

Juice players play like absolute losers just wait for you to whiff and abuse his jab loop

[lime ingot]

And mind you, this is due to low Bugs pickrate

[kind jolt]

Charge the pie @oblique knot

[worthy turret]

i haven't found one i the wild for a long time

[lime ingot]

I'm a betelgeuse player.
I like bomb.

[kind jolt]

Fully charge the pie and its a kill move at 100 on some maps

[oblique knot]

I’ve seen a few in ranked they all play the exact same

[worthy turret]

bomb is fun, i like bomb too

[lime ingot]

100???
😭

[oblique knot]

Bro bugs pie is completely fine

[worthy turret]

lol no

[oblique knot]

You know what isn’t fine?

[kind jolt]

yes Im litreally in training rn

[oblique knot]

My absolutely monstrous dair hitbox

[kind jolt]

Its going to be nerfed because its overtuned, cant wait till you play a good bugs.

[lime ingot]

Yeah bro, Rocket, Safe and Pie are all out at once on screen, you get touched once and you're getting knocked into any or all of them for the KO 😭

[worthy turret]

stop hitting me with toms balls

[lime ingot]

Then the Rocket enters tunnel and out the other side of the map, so more coverage

[oblique knot]

I beat all the bugs I play I beat 4 different master bugs in plat and I’m currently in diamond in beat every single bugs I’ve ran into

[worthy turret]

humble

[oblique knot]

All they do is fish for nair

It’s boring and predictable

[worthy turret]

all u do is actually fish

[lime ingot]

😭

[oblique knot]

Fishing rod kills are actually super funny

[lime ingot]

Tbh, you gotta just take it when you hear that

You're not making a better argument than you fishing.

[worthy turret]

my mom thinks im funny

[oblique knot]

Yeah Becuase it’s a move you can visibly see and you can avoid you just panic

[kind jolt]

I dont care what rank they are, Im just telling you Bugs players who want to abuse pie can and will and you'll understand that its broken.

[oblique knot]

Tom fishing rod is such a funny move.

[worthy turret]

cause its 6 miles long

[oblique knot]

I know it’s funny but it also has crazy whiff if you get anywhere close

We only go for fishing rod when your all the way across the map

[worthy turret]

the fact it goes across the entire map

[oblique knot]

Yap Yap yap I ain’t reading allat bugs pie is fine

[oblique knot]

Yeah but it’s not exactly accurate

[worthy turret]

lies

[oblique knot]

Okay yeah that was a lie but yall be running into it most of the time

[lime ingot]

You're advocating for TnJ to be stronger.

Imma hear the other guy.

[worthy turret]

then it is in fact very accurate

[oblique knot]

I’m the bad guy for wanting to Tom to have combos?

[kind jolt]

I wonder why a T&J is downplaying projectiles 🤔

Im just saying it can kill at 100 on some maps, charge it up. Im in training.

[oblique knot]

I have one of if not the best projectiles in the game I would know and bugs pie is not bad

[worthy turret]

trying to convince people your broken characters is not broken or spammy but in fact perfectly fair and balanced

[lime ingot]

You don't want to play TnJ

Just pick up Betelgeuse Mad Bugs or Arya.

[worthy turret]

nah i just zap zap with raven till events over

[oblique knot]

Juice is boring whiff punishing loser Arya is broken and bugs is just bugs…

I secondary him

[kind jolt]

really funny when all the characters are broken and people try to convince each other my character isnt broken because yours is super broken so mine is balanced.

[oblique knot]

But why would I drop a character I’ve mained since beta

[oblique knot]

Who do you play

[worthy turret]

to experience variety

[kind jolt]

Harley

[lime ingot]

Because you clearly don't like their playstyle and want the entire character's direction to go at your whim.

[oblique knot]

Oh so sair loops

[worthy turret]

gross

[lime ingot]

Nvm, the other guy's a loser but you're worse.
Buff the pie.

[worthy turret]

add seconed pie

[oblique knot]

I’m a loser? I’ve hit master with Tom every season

[worthy turret]

cough

[kind jolt]

Bro just proved their point thats insane 🤣

[lime ingot]

Not helping your case

[oblique knot]

I’ve mastered the character and all I’m asking for is tom combos to be back

[kind jolt]

maybe this season you can get to grandloser rank

[worthy turret]

bronze is where the cool kids are

[oblique knot]

You sair spam to win your boring pick a better character

[worthy turret]

pot kettle

[kind jolt]

I dont sair spam, but even at its worst Its a read not a loop.

[oblique knot]

Tom has no combos bro

[lime ingot]

And?

[kind jolt]

coolest kids dont play ranked at all

[worthy turret]

he has something u got to masters

[oblique knot]

Aren’t you the betel main?

[lime ingot]

Top 1 player overall mains TnJ btw.
Clearly has a LOT more than people say.

[rare otter]

This ^^^ in any game where people brag about their hours played

[lime ingot]

I play some Betelgeuse, I mever said main.

[worthy turret]

cleary he need a buff

[oblique knot]

He plays all day bro there are defo players better than him

[oblique knot]

Who do you main

[lime ingot]

Plays all day yet wins consistently enough to gain more points than any other no-lifer as TnJ.
Point still stands.

[lime ingot]

'Bron Jame

[worthy turret]

say u main tnJ blow his mind

[oblique knot]

Alr bro so your opinion isn’t valid people swear lebron takes so much skill

[lime ingot]

I did main him in Beta, I was doing Dair Jerry loops all day

[worthy turret]

gross

[oblique knot]

Fun fact dair loop wasn’t true people didn’t know how to di from it but there was a way to get out of it

It was kinda weird but there was a way

[lime ingot]

Don't care, you probably want it back

[oblique knot]

I don’t want Tom loops

[worthy turret]

the way out is u die

[lime ingot]

More than your zoning for sure.

[oblique knot]

I want Tom combos

[oblique knot]

It’s funny when I deflect basketballs

Our nair is easily our bread and butter right next to Jerry shot in terms of combos

[worthy turret]

stop smacking your balls into his balls

[lime ingot]

Then I hit you with an actual combo and you cry as I flaunt what you crave yet can't have

[oblique knot]

It’s a racket

[worthy turret]

BALLS

[oblique knot]

Tom dies at 80 to lebron consistently and lebron is way to heavy

I up aired a lebron at 110 and he lived

[lime ingot]

Sorry, I can't hear you over my true combos

[worthy turret]

HE IS A FULL GROWN MAN AND U ARE A CAT AND A RAT

[oblique knot]

He’s heavier than over half the cast and I wasn’t complaining about my weight I’m just saying I just die at that point consistently

[oblique knot]

Your just like Aryas you do the same combo over and over

[worthy turret]

he has to carry all those balls

[lime ingot]

Anyone remember the Lebron backshot loops from beta?

[oblique knot]

Didn’t he have like infinite balls

[lime ingot]

That's launch

[oblique knot]

Oh no the speakers i remember they gave him his ball back over and over I can still remember the JINKIES JINKIES JINKIES JINKIES

[kind jolt]

Shields will make playing against lebron less cancerous

[flat breach]

day 191 of asking for the jason announcer pack

[kind jolt]

day 191 of celebrating no jason announcer pack

[flat breach]

you gotta start from 1 my dude

I haven't seen yous here before

[kind jolt]

my constant mental energy rejects Jason as a concept

I believe announcer pack is included as part of that broader message

[sharp moon]

<@&882349260409032746> Nuke this bozo

[spark hill]

I know you're trolling and I have a thing for dark humor myself but this ain't the place for that but I know you already know that lmao

[sharp moon]

Some worthless nobody who last talked in 2022

not u

[spark hill]

He will probably be removed whenever a mod gets on so he can have his few hours of attention seeking glory

[unreal gyro]

Up tilt > up b.

[oblique knot]

Kills at 130+

[unreal gyro]

Is lebron a tank or smth

[oblique knot]

Bruiser

[drowsy hill]

No hes just really heavy

[oblique knot]

Black Adam has the same problem

[unreal gyro]

Your best bet is getting him offstage and try to gimp him with your dair the size of a football field

[oblique knot]

It’s actually easy to counter that out dair whiff window is super real man

[drowsy hill]

I even play TnJ and i know that dair needs that hitbox shortened

[oblique knot]

Tbh once you nerf Dair Tom is unplayable

[unreal gyro]

Every time i play him i land spikes through the damn stage, it's way too big for how hard it hits.

[oblique knot]

Collateral damage buff🤑🤑

[unreal gyro]

Give tom combos but tone down dair and his projectile damage i'd say

Getting hit once by tom when jerry is out is an instant 60% it's ridiculous

[oblique knot]

Dair damage nerf I can agree with make it do 3 less damage so collateral damage evens it out

[kind jolt]

stop buffing lame characters and start nerfing the lame top tiers

[oblique knot]

Harley main approaching opinion rejected

Gut Harley sair

[drowsy hill]

Harely is starting to anger me with that sair and dair

[unreal gyro]

I play Harley on the side but i play her completely differently

I much rather go for confetti based combos with projectile setups, way more fun

[kind jolt]

yeah

[kind jolt]

articulate how

[zenith agate]

No more bounce

[oblique knot]

Remove it from the game

[kind jolt]

uhuh

[kind jolt]

auto teching needs to die its not funny anymore

[unreal gyro]

Keep sair the same, just remove the abillity to jump cancel sair 1

[zenith agate]

If u remove the groundbounce she loses the ability to chain it into itself and tech chase

[kind jolt]

would canceling sair into up air count as jump canceling?

[unreal gyro]

It probably would, but removing groune bounce gives her no real option to get read punishes

Maybe they can do what they did for finn nair and give it a move lockout

[kind jolt]

Sair forced into sair 3 would make Harley bottom 1 unironically

sair 3 is pretty much garbage

[unreal gyro]

So like, sair > jump cancel up air works and sair > jump cancel sair doesn't.

[zenith agate]

Harley doesn't have a sair 3 what

[kind jolt]

Yes she does its the final hit you never see lol

[unreal gyro]

Sair 1 is a multihit

[zenith agate]

That's sair 2, sair 1 is just multihit it doesn't make it multiple

[unreal gyro]

Both hits count as sair 1

[zenith agate]

Also just remove the bounce and then nerf some other stuff and she's fine, focus on rick and arya more tbh

[unreal gyro]

Arya needs some genuinely massive nerfs man

[oblique knot]

Check clips

[unreal gyro]

Damnn

[kind jolt]

huh weird

[unreal gyro]

Aryas learn one combo and get to masters its ridiculously bull

[kind jolt]

everyone needs nerfs

at least shields will be bad for a lot of top tiers

[unreal gyro]

Wont rlly change much for arya i'd reckon

All she needs is one hit and you take 70%

[oblique knot]

Don’t forget she literally had a move that makes any one of her moves she uses next armor break

[kind jolt]

I think shields benefit assassins

So Arya vs Agent Smith would be a lot better for Arya

[unreal gyro]

Wdym Arya is humble, being 0 to death'd is just a skill issue if you ask me..

[kind jolt]

Arya in the Finn boat where shes still really strong but got nerfed once so everyone forgets

[unreal gyro]

Please don't compare that wench to my boy who's mostly balanced

[kind jolt]

Then Joker

[zenith agate]

Promise u no one at the top level has forgotten

Also finn is fine rn wym, atleast not a character they needa prioritise for a good while

[open girder]

nah arya aint forgotten

[sharp moon]

<@&882349260409032746> He keeps sending racist links

[kind jolt]

he still seems too strong, but compared to other characters he doesn't need prioritization

[zenith agate]

What exactly do you think is still strong?

[kind jolt]

He does a good amount of damage, has a lot of range and speed, and can still block projectiles in multiple ways, and if he gets BMO its basically game over.

Almost all of his moves are at a minimum good

[ornate fulcrum]

@sharp moon ty for the ping their gone now. Sorry for delay was just waking up when I saw your ping

[kind jolt]

All they took away was his combos, but he doesn't really need them.

[sharp moon]

🫡

[unreal gyro]

I don't find bmo as strong considering it's one of his only genuine kill moves, if you don't let him get BMO he can't kill you until like 130 unless he pulls jab >jab > IAD dair off

[kind jolt]

Watch some Flacoco matches

Finn can kill well before 130

[unreal gyro]

Already do. I still agree with my point.

[kind jolt]

Well your point is incorrect then Finn doesn't have a problem killing

[unreal gyro]

He needs reads for that, bmo is his only consistent kill more

[kind jolt]

Thats usually how assassins work isnt it, and people dont understand but reads in MVS are significantly easier than most other fighting games.

https://youtu.be/o9JUPurOXFg?si=UCv8KyZwOTGepskm
Flacoco is putting a Garnet into disadvantage at like 100 and killing pretty soon after on easy reads

[warm holly]

W name

[worldly lichen]

arg

[open girder]

atleast finn s a bit more balanced now

[kind jolt]

Jab Jab Down air, puts Garnet in complete disadvantage at 103 and dies based off of an easy read at 6:03

[kind jolt]

Sure I dont mind Finn now but you cant watch Flacoco and think hes what balance looks like generally

[open girder]

yeah that s true, atleast it requires a rlly good amount of skill for it to be looked like that

[kind jolt]

Yeah its hard to be a good Finn compared to some others now but his neutral is very easy at least.

Even me, who doesn't ever play Finn and is a total one trick was feeling pretty much even with a Wonder Woman in 1s

And Wonder Woman is ofc still too strong

[open girder]

ya

hopefully s 4.5 gonna be nice

[kind jolt]

I think they should honestly just add shields

not convinced they will in a mid season patch but I think its pretty clear they're fine and even improve the game

[unreal gyro]

I'm just waiting for Marcy rn

[kind jolt]

If they release an overtuned character in the mid season to sabatoge my attempts to play in higher ranks then I wont be very happy

[open girder]

same

[open girder]

idk we ll see

[drowsy hill]

Wait when even is Mid Season Patch

[kind jolt]

14 days from today

[zenith agate]

his dmg isn't really that great, it can look like he's doing a lot but a full string is equivalent to tnj doing jerry short and than dair

[zenith agate]

that aint true at all, his neutral game is weaker without the instant win jab, his anti projectile game is somewhat weaker with the new aerial side special and he cant 0td off of 1 jab hit anymore. Heavy nerfs and he's in a good spot rn

being more focused on Di/dodge reading rather than having long strings/0tds

[kind jolt]

Thats generally how an assassin works yeah, before he was a fake assassin and bruiser archetype

[kind jolt]

Being super broken and overpowered and then just becoming regularly over tuned, still means you're over tuned.

[zenith agate]

most of the things that u can consider overtuned rn will be fine when shields get added

[kind jolt]

hopefully

[drowsy hill]

As if we even get them

[kind jolt]

They're inevitable its just a matter of when

[zenith agate]

solid 90% chance we do

[drowsy hill]

If we dont were deep fired

[kind jolt]

damn 24 hour peak is 1300

[drowsy hill]

oh god

[kind jolt]

Marceline might not actually even pull in 4000 players

[drowsy hill]

At least it aint like MK1

[kind jolt]

They have more active players rn lol

[drowsy hill]

Word?

[kind jolt]

Its not the same though, MVS is expected to be smaller

theres no franchise or legacy for this game

[open girder]

it can if they fix fighter road and allow free choice

[kind jolt]

thats so bad

what are the odds they fix things without breaking another thing

[fossil flicker]

Party queue and taunting in bronze. I’m taking their names down the teabag months from now will be epic

[drowsy hill]

They make and break this game

[kind jolt]

Im assembling my fraud list rn

[open girder]

fighter road?

[kind jolt]

Kind of funny they teased the game would get faster and by that they just meant that some characters would get a 5% speed buff lol

[kind jolt]

yes

[drowsy hill]

They need to punish passive play more

[iron silo]

Yeah I thought it'd be like a massive speed increase for everyone

[open girder]

fighter road is nice tbh progression is quick enough but we gotta add free choice

[kind jolt]

What would yall think if Sairs got priority over Jabs?

[iron silo]

That'd make the game airversus

[kind jolt]

Some kits are really fully designed for passive play, like they took away Bugs' overpowered offensive options and now best play is just to play cooldownversus and baitversus

Oh now I remember, you make the game less passive by not punishing agression so hard, by reducing hitstun and giving people more chances to actually approach instead of having 2-3 interactions before death

[kind jolt]

yeah it might be, maybe just lock the direction of Jabs like Void was saying

[iron silo]

I think special moves in general should get a priority over normals

[drowsy hill]

But nooooo we need more elusive skins🤦‍♂️

[kind jolt]

true

[kind jolt]

progression is really fast but you should be able to pick the character you want to unlock, this is just very basic stuff.

[iron silo]

Those are... completely different sides of the development team, what?

[kind jolt]

Shaggy is such a lame trash character to be your only unlock, at a minimum in this kind of system they should have 1 character in each class unlocked to start.

[drowsy hill]

Ik it is

[iron silo]

They should just let you pick the character you start with, then you work your way up. Also, weekly characters still exist, I'm pretty sure that's what they're supposed to do

[drowsy hill]

I had to fight a Shaggy with 5% and Stronger Than Ever

Died so early

[kind jolt]

Thats another good alternative

[open girder]

they based it around brawl stars that s why, without realizing it sucks

[iron silo]

While still somehow making it considerably better than the brawl stars version. Much less grindy

[open girder]

indeed, fighter road is gonna be peak if they add free choice

[iron silo]

I think they should make it so rifts give more fighter road exp to make people play it more

[elder chasm]

Guys should I get head master Wayne if I already have Bruce Wayne?

[open girder]

the events did that

[kind jolt]

Ya'll remember just how garbage this game was before they had custom input buffers?

[iron silo]

Like we already get the gem crates, right? Why not include character exp in the rift cauldron crates, maybe like 200-500 exp per crate

[kind jolt]

Bad game mechanics and it felt like complete trash

[iron silo]

But those only apply to new rifts

[open girder]

oh lol true

[open girder]

i mean yeah that s fair, old rifts can be completed with ease and farmed insanely fast

[kind jolt]

ngl the bots are pretty garbage in this game

[open girder]

that and also u could just play s1 rift on joker and instakill him for infinite amount of fighter road xp

[kind jolt]

really

maybe I should do that

[elder chasm]

Shaggy so broken oof
He has priority on all his moves
Pfg was on something when they designed him

[open girder]

he s just from beta

[kind jolt]

I thought it was pretty clear early on they wanted to make sure their easiest character were really strong

Banana Guard is totally overtuned and hes literally a meme character

[elder chasm]

His natural air is hitting from behind
His side special has way to much knockback
His neutral ground attack kills at 80
Pfg WTF?

[iron silo]

The issue is that the easiest characters being strong just means that anyone who puts like 30 minutes into them becomes a menace

[kind jolt]

One of the best things ever is watching someone who you can tell is brand new to shaggy understand the character in like 30 seconds

then beat you after

[elder chasm]

Yup

[iron silo]

The weirdest thing is that shaggy IS the best character for a beginner. He has a simple flow and something special about him.

But it's also left unchecked and uncontrolled

[kind jolt]

Well they nerfed most of Shaggys broken combos pretty significantly so they just leave you with the base character who still has moves that are totally insane and do a ton of damage so 🤷‍♂️

It feels pretty clear that an underpowered cast is much better than an overpowered cast

who has fun getting cheesed and killed at 30

[unreal gyro]

Shaggy still has too much killpower imo

[kind jolt]

yeah

[worldly lichen]

if anyone has crushing mythic rift and wants to help out #lfg-casual

[cunning ledge]

Anyone want to play ranked?

[outer token]

Next power pledge event when

[lone trench]

Lmao a bananagaurd really thought he could get diamond by sair spamming 💀

[rain tapir]

optimal banana guard gameplay btw

[lone trench]

Man why can’t I di away from taz neutral attack - nair. I swear I’m Di in away

Nah taz ain’t no bottom 5 wth

[unreal gyro]

We got day 1 banana guard back again its so sad

[fluid chasm]

welcome to hell

[wraith geyser]

Im answering the multiversus arena form, but Im don't sure which characters pick to be the most powerful in Arena, Im thinking about: Banana Guard, Garnet, Jason, Bugs Bunny, Iron Giant, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, but maybe Im forgetting about a character =0

[lone trench]

Why does Morty not have attack decay on his gun??????

This game will never be good like this. Just release marvel rivals

[fluid chasm]

free damage

[blissful perch]

Morning chat

[analog current]

iron fist looks soooo fun

1v6 machine

[languid plaza]

What even is marvel rivals??

[stark jetty]

Probably jason

[stark jetty]

Marvel take on the overwatch formula

[lone trench]

Overwatch slayer

I would say mvs slayer too

[unreal tulip]

One day I'll enter the MVS server and people will actually talk about MVS...
A man can dream.

[lone trench]

Nubia is so fun

[fluid chasm]

I mean what else to talk about for mvs

[lone trench]

Fr

[unreal tulip]

All I know is that I'm beyond sick of marvel and am repulsed at the thought

Alas, I can't find a safe haven

[lone trench]

I need new bj combos

[open girder]

imagine not dooming mvs after one negative thing

[boreal beacon]

They've let this meta carry on since s3.5 patch. It's the worst balance state since beta

[analog current]

it’s the worst patch since smith jab is ass

[indigo nebula]

This take is as hot as the sun

[bold canyon]

Not on old gen

[analog current]

[bold canyon]

Payus first game 😂

[lone trench]

^

Arya has always been on of the best in the game

It feels like they genuinely don’t do anything but add mechanic

Yea mechanics are great but it won’t fix the balancing

[analog current]

shields is a band aid issue

[bold canyon]

Game doesn't even look that good anyway

Art style is actual ass

[boreal beacon]

4.5 will def shake up the meta but it's still 2 weeks away. Number of players have been falling so fast lately. Hopefully marceline brings some back

[lone trench]

I like the idea of shields but the characters that have no whiff(aka majority of the best characters) would just benefit the most from it

[crimson flame]

So no new patch notes today?

[fluid chasm]

wild

[bold canyon]

It looks like overwatch bro

[slow condor]

what the

[fluid chasm]

nah maybe because its suppose to be like overwatch

[bold canyon]

And the roster pick is really bad
Seriously, peni parker???

[fluid chasm]

💀

the roster is fine

[bold canyon]

No miles morales
And picking a version of iron fist that's in 6 issues

Seriously what's up with the Danny Rand erasure

[fluid chasm]

miles morales is coming later chill

and deadpool as well

[bold canyon]

Should've been in before Jeff the land shark ngl

Gwenpool's unfunny pet gets in the game before her lmao

[lone trench]

Such cap

It’s literally the same genre 5v5. Not everything is a copy

[lone trench]

Beetlejuice

[bold canyon]

It's not overwatch

It's a Marvel game
Just because it's the same genre doesn't mean it has to look like that

Everything looks technological and over designed

[fluid chasm]

bro never played the game

[bold canyon]

I'm talking about the art style I have eyes

[zenith agate]

6v6*

[bold canyon]

I can't even play the game it's not on old gen because everyone is rich I guess

[zenith agate]

Not in the same market

[zenith agate]

A ps5 was $350 on black friday

[bold canyon]

You think I live in the us?

[zenith agate]

Just saying

[bold canyon]

It's 4000 here

And that's because the price was cut

[zenith agate]

4000 what

Apples? Pears?

[bold canyon]

Reais

My currency

[lone trench]

Still gonna steal a lot of mvs players

[bold canyon]

Not really

[crimson flame]

Any new patch notes today?

[bold canyon]

Mvs barely has any players it can steal

[zenith agate]

It'll take a few, but ppl who want a plat fighter with Wb characters dont really have any other games to pick so they'll stay here

Personally if there was a disney/marvel platfighter id kiss this game goodbye

[lone trench]

@narrow socket u dumb sweat 🤬

[bold canyon]

Same

I'd main spiderman asap

[crimson flame]

@bold canyon do you know if there are any patch notes dropping today?

[warm holly]

HES INNNSAANNNNE

[bold canyon]

No

[lone trench]

He’s washed, he’s lucky I was on Betelgeuse.

[crimson flame]

Aw man

[warm holly]

nah bru 😭 makes garnet look S+

[vale parrot]

Can’t wait for Galactis

[wraith geyser]

=000 Jigglypuff =D! I love that Pokemon, is so fluffy and cute and huggable 🤗 💝 Oh, and she is great in Smash Bros Ultimate, I like to chain on air =3

[vale parrot]

Galactis vs Voltron bout to slay

[fluid chasm]

but garnet is S

[warm holly]

YES!! i have so many fond memories of it 🥹🩷🩷🩷🩷 With the little ribbonnnn!! 🙏

[warm holly]

you disagree with me everyday 😔

[fluid chasm]

how

[warm holly]

i love huskkkk ur profile is so nice ♠️!!!

[fluid chasm]

aw thanks getting ready for the winter season

[bold canyon]

Ok I'm ngl rivals isn't that bad but the art style is still ass

[indigo nebula]

Garnet is debatably the best 1s character rn

[bold canyon]

Nah that's shaggy

[indigo nebula]

No

[bold canyon]

Yes

[rain tapir]

arya, shaggy, smith, jason are better, but garnet is still bs

[bold canyon]

Jason sneak

[rain tapir]

ever seen optimal jason gameplay?

[fluid chasm]

jason in 1s can sometimes be hella annoying

[zenith agate]

Word

[fluid chasm]

if they know how to use airwalker right its hell and they can cheese with it

[rain tapir]

ledge camp and abuse sair trough a wall because los isnt a thing here

[zenith agate]

Why would there be? I dont know of any patch happening

[fluid chasm]

can we talk about how we have to wait til midseason just to use a raven perk

[rain tapir]

id say MAYBE we can use a raven perk at midseason

[fluid chasm]

I'm not even surprised at this point they scrap perks all the time

[warm holly]

ellusive items still giving 960 prestige i see 😔

[zenith agate]

Unfortunate but oh well, just think of it as new content she already has 2

[wraith geyser]

I use that skin too =D! It is my favorite nwn 🎀

[indigo nebula]

I don't see how Jason can be better than the best nair in the game

[fluid chasm]

she was already supposed have 3 since her release

[subtle plover]

Is this confirmed now? 🫠

[fluid chasm]

they still working on fixing it right now its been 3 hotfixes

[indigo nebula]

Garnet nair is so strong that it beats out air meeseeks

[zenith agate]

It didn't get scrapped it just straight up broke the game when u equipped it is all lol, it's probably being fixed and will come soon enough

[rain tapir]

ledge camping and spamming sair is enough to win games...

[subtle plover]

2*

[indigo nebula]

Yes but it also has counterplay

[fluid chasm]

🥶

[rain tapir]

go on

[zenith agate]

Just parry it #tbh

[bold canyon]

Hard to find barely anyone plays him

[fluid chasm]

ppg was supposed to have 3 perks by the way

one of them got scrapped

[lone trench]

Maybe because she is S tier?

[zenith agate]

✅️

[subtle plover]

But yeah 2 hotfixes in they still haven’t fixed it they instead also broke her shield breaker in shield play its such a joke if we have to wait for both of these in mid season patch XD

[fluid chasm]

wait her shield breaker got messed up as well bruh

[subtle plover]

Yes sir it has been rough to practice during shield play with her when only the other player can punish for holding shield

[zenith agate]

The problem as for why we cant get constant hotfixes is because on consoles updates take time to be verified before being allowed to get sent out. That's why they try to fix things in bulk rather than 1 at a time as fast as possible

[warm holly]

buggin

[zenith agate]

Not buggin that's heavily agreed upon

[bold canyon]

The bubbles one?

[warm holly]

where’s that dude that’s gonna bring up garnet never winning in a tournament 💀

[outer token]

I was about to win a DIamond Cringe Black adam and im disconnected AAAA

[rain tapir]

i recommend watching this from around 21 minutes in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEfhmmHWFOM

[indigo nebula]

Wait it out, he actually does get wall fatigue, it's crazy right

[zenith agate]

She's won frosti and there were 2 or 3 garnets in the NA vs EU crew battle that performed really well

[rain tapir]

then he goes onstage and gets armor and simply goes back, boom no more wall fatigue, crazy right?

[zenith agate]

She's also had plenty of top 8s

[indigo nebula]

Crazy how you can punish him being on stage in that time

[frozen lagoon]

Can anyone tell me what rift allows me to play as Velma? I’m trying to complete this event mission and shaggy is not working for it

[rain tapir]

crazy how not every jason player is a drooling toddler that doesnt know how to safely create space

[subtle plover]

I understand that but its annoying you can’t play your favorite char because they broke her more ;-;

[indigo nebula]

How to safely create space... Wow you wouldn't even be able to do it yourself

[rain tapir]

indeed, because i play the worst 1s character there is, nothing is safe with velma

[indigo nebula]

Yea yet you play it like you can

[zenith agate]

She is not the worst actually 😇 she's not good but not bottom 1

[rain tapir]

thats called skill

[rain tapir]

wrong

[zenith agate]

Right

[paper holly]

Someone wanna play the last five or so levels in the new insanity rift?

[rain tapir]

explain yourself

[indigo nebula]

Lucid I'm not saying you're bad but the fact is you throw out stuff randomly sometimes because it is in fact really safe

[rain tapir]

define really safe

[zenith agate]

There are worse characters than velma in the multiversus (WB ip) platform fighting one versus one gamemode

[indigo nebula]

Velma up special breaks armor and pops her high up into the air, add that in with less whiff than most moves she has and it's a safe move to throw out in neutral

[subtle plover]

He was scared playing with shields because he can’t win as easily so yeah xd

[indigo nebula]

Which spoiler alert... You do use it a lot

[fluid chasm]

yep

[rain tapir]

like who?

[fluid chasm]

who's worse than velma

[rain tapir]

now id like you to guess how many startup frames and whiff frames it has

[zenith agate]

Marvin

[warm holly]

oh.. that’s so sad she was B tier yesterday 😔

[fluid chasm]

marvin is way better honestly

[indigo nebula]

I wouldn't know but I have fought vs you Lucid, multiple times

[zenith agate]

She was not B tier yesterday

[warm holly]

can i be dramatic dude damn

[indigo nebula]

I couldn't punish it unless I predicted it fully

[rain tapir]

marvin is bad yea, but atleast he has framedata to compete at least a bit

[zenith agate]

Infact i personally believe every character in this game has smth dumb, and even being "bottom 1" doesn't make them unplayable at all

[crimson flame]

It’s Tuesday 🤷‍♂️

[rain tapir]

well ill tell you: 24 startup frames on air uspecial. now compare that to a jason jab for example that has 21 frames of startup BUT he gets insanely early kills and great damage of off it comapred to velma's whopping 8 damage and the opportunity to kill at as early as 130!!!!

[indigo nebula]

Aint no way you said as early as 130, it can combo into up air which will kill earlier especially on some stages that you will also be able to do

[rain tapir]

DI exists yk

[indigo nebula]

I've not even donwplayed Jason in the past months

[fluid chasm]

I was about to say that

[warm holly]

It’s not fair how not all Ellusives are treated the same :( makes the tag inconsistent

Vista Joker gets different move designs and animations but velma gets nothing??

[rain tapir]

this isnt about the jason case anymore, just velma is undebatably the worst currently solely due to her insanely ass risk/reward ratio

[fluid chasm]

I went for jokers instantly

[rain tapir]

velma got a lobby animation but still

[indigo nebula]

Yea but buff her too much and she's back to being god of 2s

[fluid chasm]

also guess what batman's elusive got another animation and victory

they really need to chill out with the dc glaze tho

[indigo nebula]

They're going to buff Velma when shields come out

[fluid chasm]

you really think that

[rain tapir]

they have to if they want to keep her at least usable to an extent

[indigo nebula]

If they don't then that's incredibly stupid, but make her up special come out too fast and it becomes unpunishable without any more whiff

[zenith agate]

Hope not

[indigo nebula]

She is useable, you are using her and winning aren't you?

[fluid chasm]

tell me that when marvin gets an epic or legendary skin

[rain tapir]

very inconsistently, and the games i am losing are really just framedata differences

[south stump]

does anoyone know when insanity will be unlocked for the raven rift

[analog current]

they should make elusives different rarities depending on if they change the characters animations or win/loss screen animation or if they have special voice acting and it should be different prices for the rarities and it should be like “legendary” “epic” “rare” “common” based on those factors

[fluid chasm]

and if bugs doesn't get a legendary skin before the game shutsdown I'll be mad

[indigo nebula]

You're also just playing the top level players, so no kidding it's inconsistent

[fluid chasm]

elusives are just rare skins with epic stances and sometimes legendary

[warm holly]

yea exactly

[vagrant thunder]

Shuts down?

[rain tapir]

i am playing against anyone within the range of gold-masters

[hybrid frost]

Why is HARLEY so fun !!

[indigo nebula]

You've beaten my ass in tourney twice already, I'm not gonna say you're bad, I'm saying that your character can still be used to a great extent with the right amount of skill and playstyle

She needs some buffs but I also don't want Beta Velma back

[fluid chasm]

I'll be honest the game isn't doing its very best at the moment like advertising and money at the moment and also its wb they can pull the plug at anytime

[analog current]

can u compartmentalize

[indigo nebula]

Because then 2s will be an absolute nightmare

[lone trench]

I played 23 MINUTES against a raven. PLEASE GAME GIVE EVERYONE OPTIONS TO TACKLE PASSIVE PLAY

THIS GAME IS ACTUALLY SOO BAD

[rain tapir]

like it isnt already a nightmare with ww and steven dominating the mode since release...

[indigo nebula]

I'm just gonna go, arguing isn't going to do anything

[analog current]

in 3 days time u can play 6 dps tho

[indigo nebula]

We have differing opinions

[unreal tulip]

[fluid chasm]

like we're in season 4 and they started adding shields launch MvS was a rushed game

[rain tapir]

does that mean it is time?

[analog current]

MvS has been rushed since its inception it’s nothing new

[unreal tulip]

it could, let me check my schedule tho

[rain tapir]

👍

[fluid chasm]

and MvS had playtests since 2021

[analog current]

especially when the whole reason MvS beta launched was bc hbox leaked it early

[fluid chasm]

I remember that

[vagrant thunder]

So all you need to do with Batman is slide, right?

[rain tapir]

and throw out the most random unpunishable jabs whenever you can

[analog current]

PFG rewrote history with convincing everyone that MvS Beta was always meant to be a beta

[lone trench]

23minutes #clips message

[vagrant thunder]

Until they actually say this, these claims mean nothing.

[brazen egret]

anyone know where my season 4 2v2 silver badge is i thought we get it or is it that the update a while ago made me go to plat from bronze?

[fluid chasm]

Its WB we're talking about they'll cancel anything out of nowhere like mk1 wave 3 dlc

[unreal tulip]

I'll be back in some 30 minutes, and then it will be time

[rain tapir]

👍

[fluid chasm]

I hate what current WB is doing right now

[unreal tulip]

I would have watched Coyote vs Acme in no time

[fluid chasm]

max is becoming not a worth it stream service

[fluid chasm]

same bro

[paper holly]

Anyone wanna play the last missions on the new insanity rift?

[vagrant thunder]

I hate gameplay like this. Truly..

[sick ocean]

how could you forget up special

[fluid chasm]

they getting rid of ed edd n eddy original teen titans billy and mandy and looney tunes show only courage will be the og cn show we got during the golden era

[worn ferry]

You go to doctor now. Or. I COULD eat you.

[bold canyon]

Why does he ledge camp so much

[rain tapir]

optimal jason gameplay

[bold canyon]

Ew

That ain't even fun

[sick ocean]

because sair and up special and airwalker shenanigans

[bold canyon]

He's making Jason look like a scummy character

[fluid chasm]

max just hates cn so much

[unreal tulip]

probably longer though, the errands are multiplying!

[fluid chasm]

cartoon network will never come back like the golden era

[worn ferry]

Literally all jasons ledge camp even the bad ones dying to my dair

[worn ferry]

I feel so lucky to have grown up in the Cartoonnetwork City bumper era

[unreal tulip]

Probably TV as a whole will never recover.
They better put everything on demand

[worn ferry]

So many good cartoons on you just don't get that these days

[rain tapir]

because jason simply is a scummy character

[worn ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbbYs-Ki1x8 Like why did they get rid of peak???

[fluid chasm]

I was born in 07 but I did see all the golden era cartoons

cn city should have been a stage to honor cartoon network as a whole

[paper holly]

Anyone down to help me run the last three missions of the new insanity rift

[sick ocean]

he kinda just is. jason is essentially a comeback character

[paper holly]

Anyone?

[fluid chasm]

at this point call max the adventure time channel theres so much at

[bold brook]

You're pretty much dead when in burnout against Jason, but it also happens to him also since Jason doesn't have too much options to escape combos either

[worn ferry]

do you know how many times jason has quick saired me off him bruh what do you mean. It's such a strong get off me tool. ALONG WITH GRAB

[bold brook]

I meant to say that you're pretty much dead when Jason lands a good combo on you

[worn ferry]

OH

[vagrant thunder]

If nubia's spear can grab shielded enemies, why can't WWs lasso do the same thing?

[worn ferry]

Steven needs more get off me tools like why does Jason get 2 goated ones and Steven left to get beat up by the Superman main that got near.

[lone trench]

Dang fighting Harley actually sucks

[sick ocean]

still not fast enough really, if youre approaching and get saired, its not what hey meant

[lone trench]

Or any dc tbh

[analog stirrup]

do you also main dc lately?

[fluid chasm]

thank god WW can't do that

[vagrant thunder]

It's still an inconsistency that doesn't make sense.

[fluid chasm]

I just hate WW a lot but I can see that being a problem even for a command grab

[lone trench]

I main Nubia but I ain’t playing her rn. I think I’m way to bad with her rn

[sick ocean]

im not that bad to fight

[analog stirrup]

i see

[lone trench]

Yea u are a good Harley, you cooked my Nubia

[sick ocean]

yeah but game sux and im pissed

[lone trench]

This Harley I fought just now was also pretty good with parries too

[tulip bluff]

its not a grab, it just pulls people, if im sure, i think its a melee attack no?

[iron silo]

What's the problem?

[fluid chasm]

harley can stall in the air for so long no offense Nyx

[sick ocean]

only enjoy fighting pros cz somehow they are fun

[lone trench]

Really fast asf

[sick ocean]

yeah, ik, box stall, but then, i dont feel like theres rlly anything to it

[worn ferry]

GIANT ASS NAIR HITBOX w next to no whiff on it in compensation to how far away you gotta be to not get hit by it

[sick ocean]

that was me

[lone trench]

You fought a bj just now?

[sick ocean]

i still dont understand, its so parriable, and it does hv whiff, i get punished for it all the time

[fluid chasm]

harley sair gets on my last nerves

[lone trench]

Oh then gg, I didn’t realise

[worn ferry]

lol lmao even

[sick ocean]

yeah, ik its you, thats why i said that

[iron silo]

That's what makes her fun to play as!

[sick ocean]

the tech chase? i agree, im not using it anymore cz of that

[lone trench]

Yea to play not to verse

[rain tapir]

insane how harley can whiff an utilt right next to me and i still get parried for punishing it

[sick ocean]

?

[wraith geyser]

WW is so good in Arena pwp

[iron silo]

[fluid chasm]

yeah exactly that

[sick ocean]

thats mvs, utilt has lag, plus, u play velma, idk what ur fastest move is, but it sure is gonna be slow

[fluid chasm]

I fine with the move uses normal but the tech chase is hella annoying

[sick ocean]

you can remove the "in arena" part, theres rlly no need

[sick ocean]

waiting for them to not fix auto techs and instead gut harley bc why not

[fluid chasm]

Pfg has obvious favorites

[languid plaza]

You can say that again

[sick ocean]

what, she got like 2 actually good buffs since relaunch ;-;

[fluid chasm]

nah not harley I mean characters like batman and wonder woman

[lone trench]

Yea DC

[wraith geyser]

But I have lose against WW in arena. Sometimes the perks like Golden armor or vampirism make her impossible to move from ground to blast zone TwT

[sick ocean]

oh yeah. tho, why does batman kill so well, wouldnt it be better if he didnt? you know, he doesnt kill in source, so why should he not struggle in game?, or at least decently

[worn ferry]

Look I'm not about to have a "it's not that bad" conversation w a main of currently one of the best characters in the game. It's that bad. Hush now.

[sick ocean]

yes, ww is simply too good, i pray for your safety in these trying times 🙏

[fluid chasm]

I main ppg and they have hella inconsistent combos and the only reason they were meta after their first set of nerfs because of bubbles 0 to death

[open girder]

yeah

[sick ocean]

ive always thought that nair was parryable and stuff, but i didnt say it was bad or ez to do it, i just dont get why ppl see a big hitbox and say nerf

[sick ocean]

they had 0td's on every character btw

[lone trench]

And blossom 0td

[fluid chasm]

oh right blossom ice breath 0td on release

[lime ingot]

Did I just come back to Top Tier Quinn downplaying?? 💀

[worn ferry]

Well for one you're using parrying as an argument in a game with sphagetti for netcode. Parrying is obviously not reliable online and is only good in an offline tourney sense.

[rain tapir]

and now i lose a set because jab jab utilt doesnt kill a harley at 170

[fluid chasm]

the only buff I fine with ppg getting is their old nair back

[open girder]

what tha helll

[fluid chasm]

isn't harley a lightweight

[rain tapir]

lightest along with arya

that match genuinly made me want to quit until this character gets superbuffed

[fluid chasm]

that's what gets me confused I use buttercup a lot to kill but against lightweights she doesn't kill for some reason

[lime ingot]

"This character" is?

[rain tapir]

Velma dinkley

[sick ocean]

ive been doing it just fine, and a lot of moves become broken in bad connection, tho i do see your point 100%, and im not trying to discredit it, but you dont hv to say its deserving of a nerf, like, what would you even nerf about it?

[fluid chasm]

I do jab up tilt all the time and they can sdi out of uptilt which gets on my last nerves

[sick ocean]

velma life huh

[lime ingot]

might as well retire then, they're never going hard on Velma buffs, not since she was top tier all of Beta

[sick ocean]

they will get like, 10 0td's instantly

[rain tapir]

ww is top tier now
bugs has been top tier a few times since relaunch
invalid argument tbh

[sick ocean]

theres no sdi in mvs to

[fluid chasm]

not the knockback one I wanted their nair to be an actual multi hit not a big circle with huge knockbakc

[lime ingot]

In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if Velma was kept purposefully weak for the sake of making the game less frustrating.
Kinda like how they purposefully under-nerf Harley, WW, Bugs and others cuz they are icons

[fluid chasm]

I had moments where they fall out of my up tilt for no reason

[lone trench]

You think that’s bad, I played a game that lasted 23 minutes against a raven and lost.

If that happened to me a couple years ago I would have broken something

[sick ocean]

again, like 10 0td's, i swear to you, that nair was somehow the worst one, me and a couple other ppl found ridiculous things

[sick ocean]

thats mvs

[fluid chasm]

ahh I can see it

[rain tapir]

oh that harley set took 20 minutes aswell

[sick ocean]

still hv some old stuff, but i think it might be the most recent nair, wanan see anyways?

[lone trench]

😭 that’s crazy

[fluid chasm]

sure

[sick ocean]

starting to think this is simply a bad game

[lime ingot]

So, possibly the safest nair but it also carries enemies down for combos 😭

[rain tapir]

i did nearly twice the damage in all 3 games btw and still lost the set

[fluid chasm]

their nair was never a drag down it was mostly made to combo with rainbow dash

[worn ferry]

a small amount of whiff on miss is all I ask so she doesn't keep being able to do it for free since I have to move 3000 ft away from it to not get hit

harley is a combo machine anyways why should she be allowed to spam nair

she clearly has other tools

[sick ocean]

idk what char you play but i can punish it just fine, as long as im in the air, bc ofc, harley grounded moves r slow

[lime ingot]

Dude, I'd let Harley keep Nair in exchange for gutting up special

[sick ocean]

only sair stuff rlly, if u remove that, shes on the bottom feeder for combos list

[lime ingot]

She has it tho, so womp womp

[sick ocean]

yeah, i said only that, thats what i mean :/

[thorn blade]

Everyday is another day for a mod call. 🙂

[worn ferry]

Fighting mages as Taz just feels so incredibly bad now lol

[quiet lintel]

That would be amazing, yes 😔😔 I have a lot of in-game hours and well...

[worn ferry]

I mean it always felt bad but it feels worse

[quiet lintel]

🥹💔

[worn ferry]

been fighting nothing but velma mains who run away all game

I think I might actually hate Velma mains more than Jack mains

[open girder]

u hate lucid ( only velma main )

[devout silo]

just realized, Trigon on the Loose Insanity mode is out now 😳

[thorn blade]

Why?

[worn ferry]

Taz has a terrible vertical upward game because all he has is up air slamwhich and dopile 2 claws meaning velmas can just hover out of his reach all game and then when we get too aggressive after being frustrated by all the blatant camping, we get punished by one of her bs hitbox moves

Velmas are allowed to camp way too hard I get they're mages but this is just straight ridiculous

I'm not even allowed to camp half as hard as Velmas while playing steven before camp mechanic tells me to stop gliding like.... what is this favoritism lmao

[lone trench]

#clips message

Raven mains are so much worse

[worn ferry]

Oh trust they're awful too

[sharp moon]

[lone trench]

Like all of this dudes Raven wins has all been like 5m or above #clips message

like how do you have fun by making every game 15 minutes

[worn ferry]

Velma and Raven mains when PFG says they're buffing camp mechanic:

[quiet lintel]

Oh thats not...

[lone trench]

They need to fix it first before they buff it

[rain tapir]

you can freely aproach her...

[quiet lintel]

Like fr

[worn ferry]

I main Taz no I can't lmao

[visual trail]

@raven goblet any day we can set up the ft10

[rain tapir]

you definetly can

[worn ferry]

OK. Educate me.

[quiet lintel]

You better say sorry

[quiet lintel]

GET EDUCATED

[lone trench]

They give stop camping sometimes to the person who’s chasing the passive one

[potent night]

ª

[rain tapir]

simply attack

[worn ferry]

WOAH GREAT ADVICE!!!!

[quiet lintel]

Omg alguien más que habla español

[quiet lintel]

🙄🙄🙄 Uhmm

[lone trench]

Doesn’t boot destroy Velma’s projectile?

[rain tapir]

it is, litteraly any move of taz is much faster

[sharp pecan]

Guys, do anyone know how to claim the cards of the winstreak challenge?

[quiet lintel]

We got a lot of whiff 😭

[worn ferry]

Can yall plz just scroll up and look at why I'm strugglin w velma so I don't gotta repeat myself it takes like 3 mouse wheel moves

[sharp pecan]

I got approved but idk what tto do now

[lone trench]

How much do you have?

[paper holly]

Anyone wiling to help or even acknowledge that you see my message haha

[sharp pecan]

Top 9 full pack

[sharp pecan]

I see ur message, help w what

[paper holly]

Thanks I figured people were just ignoring my pleas for help haha

[sharp pecan]

But idk how to claim it and how much time do I have to do so

[sharp pecan]

What do you need help w tho

[worn ferry]

"Taz has a terrible vertical upward game because all he has is up air slamwhich and dopile 2 claws meaning velmas can just hover out of his reach all game and then when we get too aggressive after being frustrated by all the blatant camping, we get punished by one of her bs hitbox moves (edited)
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[10:01 AM]
Velmas are allowed to camp way too hard I get they're mages but this is just straight ridiculous
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[10:02 AM]
I'm not even allowed to camp half as hard as Velmas while playing steven before camp mechanic tells me to stop gliding like.... what is this favoritism lmao (edited)
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@What did yall do to Taz bruh omg
been fighting nothing but velma mains who run away all game"

[paper holly]

I need someone to join in on the last three missions in the new insanity rift it honestly shouldn’t take that long at all

[quiet lintel]

Youre talking about ravens and ricks, not about velmas

[worn ferry]

Raven's too. Rick isn't as much of a problem but still a problem

[sharp pecan]

I can't rn sorry

[quiet lintel]

Velmas arent zoners 😕

[rain tapir]

zoners that cant zone

[quiet lintel]

Zoning ≠ camping

[worn ferry]

All I'm geting out of this is that Velma mains suck and we should nerf mystery machine again

[quiet lintel]

Pls, like for real our moveset is very slow how can we just "zone"

[quiet lintel]

Shut it, youre being very unrespectful

[rain tapir]

afaik you are the one complaining about the worst character in the game... i wonder who sucks...

[limber onyx]

Velma doesn’t really have a projectile that’s quite that good, but passive play is just an issue over all. Not really Velma specific

[quiet lintel]

😭

[worn ferry]

Velma mains???

[rain tapir]

incorrect, try again

[strange fjord]

why are we arguing about Velma

[edgy mauve]

I’ve made it to tier 70 of the bp and only have gotten like 30 Gleamium from the infinite tier 😭

[rain tapir]

because some people dont seem to understand that none of her moves come out before frame 20

[quiet lintel]

Exactly, the game is really hard un rankeds, so we have to do something that will make us win if our character Is literally toilet water, like omg

[quiet lintel]

🙄

[worn ferry]

They're telling me to just attack the character constantly running away and spamming camera and book to run away harder in air against a taz main who literally can't hit them if they're higher than his weak af up air

[rain tapir]

if you cant punish a 30 whiff frame move thats definetly on you

[quiet lintel]

😭 She is slow like a tank but she isnt strong so WTH

[rain tapir]

slower then jason and iron giant btw

[strange fjord]

lmao

can't wait to see this unfold more

[worn ferry]

what part of I can't reach them because they're using camera to leap 100 ft into the air do you not understand. My kit literally can't handle that lmao

[rain tapir]

catch a landing or something????????

[vagrant thunder]

Has anyone ever met a legit Harley player?

[strange fjord]

no

[vagrant thunder]

I'm starting to think there's only like 4 in existence.

[quiet lintel]

What else do you want to do to some people playing a slow and weak character than yours? I dont try to defend them, but you dont know what velma mains haves to go thru, the camera is velmas best meelee attack dont wait us to just unuse it when its out best kill confirm move ermmm

[strange fjord]

maybe Ino and 1 or 2 others but every other Harley just tries to spam

[quiet lintel]

You should complain about ravens that haves infinite kit for zoning 😬 we dont have any infinite projectiles with no cooldowns

[worn ferry]

I just want yall to stop camping like that's it.😭

[quiet lintel]

Camping or playing passive? I dont understand 😕

[rain tapir]

we dont camp to camp (camping isnt even optimal for velma), but we have to disengage wayyyyy too often becauseour framedata simply doesnt allow us to fight close range

[worn ferry]

Tamato or TOMATO? I don't understand

[quiet lintel]

😡

[quiet lintel]

We have to play very mixed, our character isnt a zoner or an assassin to just play meelee

[vagrant thunder]

I just want Harley players to stop being complete trash.

I haven't met a single good one, they all just use the hammer all day.

Only thing I hate more than Jack.

[rain tapir]

dont forget sair!!!

[quiet lintel]

They are lowkey toxic but well at least their character isnt broken at all

[thorn blade]

There's only one Harley main I know who hasn't done that.

[quiet lintel]

Harleys >>>>>>> jacks🤢