[Solved] Moving IK rigged object

[ionic relic]

if you want to move the location you can move it in object mode. but if you're wanting to move just the spine then thats what IK does. you'll have to move the spine and the IK also i cant speak specifically to the exact reason your legs are moving in whatever way they're moving, but it will be a consequence of the IK chains

im totally guessing here, but did you remember to clear the parent and connections of the IK targets?

[neat gust]

Ye

The IK targets work fine

[ionic relic]

so what's happening specifically?

[neat gust]

I cant move my whole animal with one specific bone

That what i want

Just indeed like object mode

But i assume i cant animate in pose mode and also keyframe in object mode to let my animal move

Nvm it seems i can

But can i still somehow do something that i can move and rotate my whole animal in pose mode?

[ionic relic]

what's preventing you from moving and rotating it in pose mode?

[neat gust]

If i move the selected bone, the legs etc are trippy

[ionic relic]

Trippy? You been feeding them magic mushrooms?

[neat gust]

You can see the photos right?

[ionic relic]

Correct

[neat gust]

Hereee

If i select all bones and rotate or move its trippy

Idk why

[ionic relic]

Okay, so try answer the question without using the word 'trippy'

[neat gust]

Ok

They are moving weird

My legs

[ionic relic]

How am I supposed to help if you don't describe the issue in detail

Weird how?

[neat gust]

In pose mode

I select all bones

Cuz i wanna let my fking animal move or rotate

If i rotate, you see my legs on the back act weird

How can i fix that?

[ionic relic]

In what way do they act weird? Describe 👏 in 👏 detail 👏

[neat gust]

You seeee the fking photoooo

[ionic relic]

Yeh but your photo gives literally zero helpful information

And watch your language

[neat gust]

My back legs are in the body

[ionic relic]

You're asking for help

[neat gust]

I wanna rotate my animal

But if i try it you can see my back legs go into my body

They need to stay just like the front legs

[ionic relic]

Okay so we're making minor progress "when I try and rotate my armature my legs go inside my body"

[neat gust]

Ye

[ionic relic]

Right, weve made a start at framing the problem in a way that's understandable to people who have limited information to work with

Does this happen when you rotate it further?

[neat gust]

Yes

[ionic relic]

Do they appear in different positions if you rotate in different directions?

[ionic relic]

Your photos are not helping.

[neat gust]

How are they not helping?

Cant you see my legs at the back are acting weird?

My back legs go to random positions if i rotate on x y or z axis

[ionic relic]

Because I don't know what angle the model is, I don't know what position they were in before. All I see is bones and boxes. I couldn't tell you whether it was the front, back, top or bottom of your animal.

"random positions" finally something useful!

[neat gust]

Here, this is the normal pose

At every other pic if i rotate it on any axis, my legs at the back move weird

[ionic relic]

Let's Frame your question better. "When I rotate my root bone the ik bones jump to random locations for every movement I make"

[neat gust]

Only my legs at the back move weird

[ionic relic]

Please show me the relations tab of your ik target

[neat gust]

Same position but rotated on the x axis

Where is that?

I have 10 IK targets in the object

Ok i assume this is the end

[ionic relic]

Relations is in the bone data tab

You should have 1 ik target for each leg

[neat gust]

I have that

And one for the foot

Is the IK target the yellow bone?

Or the 'controller' of the yellow bone?

[ionic relic]

The controller of the yellow bone (the one you move to make the whole leg move)

[neat gust]

Ye okay

Ive one for the leg and one for the foot

And that 4 times

For 4 legs

[ionic relic]

Just show me one leg. The very end one

[ionic relic]

I mean show me the relations tab

[neat gust]

That long straight chain of bones is the tail

This?

Or in scene collection

[ionic relic]

no, that's the constraint. the green bone

[neat gust]

The green bone icon?

[neat gust]

Its from the IK controller

[ionic relic]

and you have another at the foot also?

[neat gust]

Yep

[ionic relic]

please show my that one also

[neat gust]

There you go

On the front legs, its exactly the same. But those legs move fine

[ionic relic]

check your constraints tab to make sure no other constraints on there

[neat gust]

On the controllers?

Or on the constrains itself

[ionic relic]

on any of the bones

[neat gust]

But thats impossible right? Cuz they get yellow after i add a contrain

[ionic relic]

it sounds like theres some kind of infinite loop somewhere on the leg

[neat gust]

Theres nothing at the constrains tab for every grey bone

[ionic relic]

look on the IK bones too. yellow ones also

[neat gust]

They all have one constrain

I moved my 3d cursor to the center of the object

And now i can move it

And rotate

[ionic relic]

the 3d cursor would only act as a pivot point at most - I wouldnt expect that to make the bones act trippy

but if it's fixed

[neat gust]

Ye sort of

If i now rotate it, the object rotates normal

[ionic relic]

if its not perfect, personally id remove all of the IK stuff, all of the constraints and make sure the leg operates as expected with FK

then slowly add back the IK

[neat gust]

But in his way from 0 to 30 degrees turning on the x axis, my controllers move also a bit

Test

[ionic relic]

your controllers shouldnt move at all

[neat gust]

Oh okag

Oof im lagging

[ionic relic]

that makes it sounds like they're being influenced by some other kind of constraint or parenting issue

[neat gust]

Oh rip

I did everything from a basic tutorial

[ionic relic]

all it takes is 1 missed option and it all goes to hell

[neat gust]

Oof

[ionic relic]

try delete the IK targets in edit mode then re make them

[neat gust]

I already did that before

But okay i guess

[ionic relic]

post your blend file and ive got 15 mins i can take a look

[neat gust]

I cant find a walking IK rigged object animation tutorial on yt

Aight ill do it , sec

[ionic relic]

in all honesty i think having 2 IK targets in 1 chain probably isnt helping

[neat gust]

Oh no

[ionic relic]

you "can" have multiple IK in a chain but for a basic rig like that id argue it wasnt needed

[neat gust]

I wanna move the leg and the foot

Apart

[ionic relic]

ah ok

its moving fine

[neat gust]

Did you see the animation?

In pose mode

[ionic relic]

yeh it just rotates

nothing like you described

[neat gust]

But when it rotates, every part with a constrain moves a bit

I want dont want it

[neat gust]

Yee

But you see my head and tail are also moving if i rotate it

Why?

[ionic relic]

because you've keyframed it to do so

[neat gust]

Oh frick

[neat gust]

So i need to select everything except the yellow bones?

[neat gust]

I wish i could rotate or move everything with that bone

[ionic relic]

all you've done is selected everything and rotated it around the 3d cursor (im guessing) and then put in a keyframe for allt he bones

[neat gust]

Yup

Cuz i dont know how else i can rotate or move my whole animal in pose mode

Im trying to find out which bones i need to rotate to let it rotate fine

Without moving parts

But idk

At least i need to select every controller cuz else it wont work

[ionic relic]

well thats the thing with IK, you need to decide what you want to use to control it

you kindda lose the benefit of IK when you do it like this

[neat gust]

Howw

Could you move everything with the big bone in the body?

Ye but i wanna make my animal walk

I cant only animate the legs and feet for that, cuz it wont move then

[neat gust]

Howw

[neat gust]

I still have that

[neat gust]

Wow okay thx

[ionic relic]

personally i wouldnt do it like this

[neat gust]

Thats complex

How im i supposed to know that? I didnt see that on yt

[ionic relic]

so what I would do is if you needed to rotate the main bone, then you should consider selecting all the bones and moving them together

[neat gust]

Why wouldnt i do it with the big bone?

[ionic relic]

because theres 1 million different things and 1 billion different ways of doing things

[ionic relic]

at the same time as the big bone

[neat gust]

Ohh

Do you know what i need to search for on yt to get a tutorial for what you made?

So i can actually understand it

[ionic relic]

off the top of my head, no. but just search up ik tutorials, and bone constraints etc

[neat gust]

One last question, why are the controllers green now?

[ionic relic]

that's because they have the constraints on them

you can take them off if you wish

[neat gust]

Noo if it works im happy with it

[ionic relic]

id animate it like that

[neat gust]

Thats awesome!!

[ionic relic]

right im goign to bed. remember better phrasing of questions with lots of detail helps get to the root of the problem faster with frustration. g'night 👍

[neat gust]

Thanks alot for your time! Thanks alot for helping me!!

Gn!

[ionic relic]

[Solved] Moving IK rigged object