I can start a rando just fine and everything seems to work normally, but whenever I quit to the main menu and reload my save file, the game just reverts back to vanilla gameplay. Other mods like benchwarp and debug mod still work, but anything rando related completely disappears. I'm playing current patch on windows through gamepass, and my mods are installed through scarab. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling both mods and HK itself.
#Rando breaking when I quit to menu
obtuse hinge
dreamy willow
?tag modlog
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dreamy willow
After you encounter the issue, you'll need to grab your modlog and post it (not the installer log)
As a side note though: I'm not sure why you're quitting to the menu? You generally shouldn't need to ever go back to the main menu when playing Rando
obtuse hinge
I think this is what you need, apologies for posting the wrong one first. As for the side note, this problem basically means that if I want to do a rando, I have to do it in one sitting which I would rather avoid
dreamy willow
Is it broken when you re-open the game?
You just said that it was broken if you go to the menu and then back in
obtuse hinge
If I close and reopen the game, it breaks and if I go back to the main menu and reload the save, it also breaks
dreamy willow
My first suggestion would be to remove Rope Rando
Iirc it has some known bugs, because it was made as someone's test in making a Rando mod
obtuse hinge
That hasn't changed anything
If it helps this is what it looks like if I reload the save before having left kings pass. When this happens I can't move at all, and none of the controls do anything. All I can do is alt+f4 to close the game
dreamy willow
And that was from starting a new file, then quitting to menu and resuming?
Can you get the new modlog
-# note that your current log isn't in the old modlogs folder
obtuse hinge
obtuse hinge
And that was from starting a new file, then quitting to menu and resuming?
Correct
woven lake
last time i saw something like this happen was flower rando and nerthul just updated alot of their mods
dreamy willow
I can't easily check mod versions right now
obtuse hinge
All of my mods should be up to date
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Lumafly 
(formerly Scarab+)
This is a new version of Scarab, that fixes many of the problems with the commonly used version, as well as adds additional community-requested features (filtering by tags, showing new releases, offline mode, shareable mods/mod lists, and modpacks).
https://themulhima.github.io/Lumafly/?download
dreamy willow
All of my mods should be up to date
Scarab commonly just doesn't actually update mods
?tag reset
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obtuse hinge
I've done the reset memory and force update links, and I've deleted scarab and replaced it with lumafly, but nothing's changed. I recently had to reset my computer's OS, is there any chance that's causing the problem somehow?
dreamy willow
It shouldn't be.
In the same folder as the modlogs, do you have user#.modded.json files?
dreamy willow
And to confirm, they say modded in their name? (Not to be confused with the files that don't say modded)
obtuse hinge
They do
dreamy willow
proud hinge
(fwiw, Rope Rando is fine now)
my best guess is RandomizerCore.Json is missing or one of RandomizerCore.Json, RandomizerCore and Randomizer 4 has a version mismatch, maybe try uninstalling then reinstalling those 3?
lyric sentinel
I did some tests and it seems to be caused by Grass Rando, as Neko said it looks really similar to an issue that Flower Rando had a few weeks ago so Nerthul might be able to help with identifying the issue
proud hinge
only thing I can think of is maybe install HKMirror? there shouldn't be any runtime dependency but I am known for stupidity
lyric sentinel
It's already installed cuz I also have MoreSaves
(Don't hesitate to ask if you need more logs/save files)
proud hinge
GrassRando should have only had logic & sprite changes, is this failing when grass Rando is disabled? since that's probably the only scenario I didn't test 🥴
lyric sentinel
I haven't tested with Grass Rando disabled either
proud hinge
unfortunately I'm at my family's house for Christmas so can't look into it, I'll page @visual girder if you have any idea what this issue is from flowerrando
lyric sentinel
I'll try with the previous version of the mod just in case
rich hullBOT
It didn't break with the previous version, so 
proud hinge
oh I think I see the problem, damn me for thinking code I wrote in March was good
proud hinge
I'll try with the previous version of the mod just in case
could you try building the mod with this section removed? (in release mode)
lyric sentinel
I should be able to in ~30 min-1h
obtuse hinge
Can confirm that uninstalling grass rando and grass core fixed the issue
visual girder
Can confirm as well that I had the issue occur with the latest Grass patch
From my end I did get a report of Access Rando's latest patch having issues but I haven't really looked into it yet
lyric sentinel
Here's the build, I removed the #else which seems to have fixed the issue 
proud hinge
alright I will set up the most scuffed build environment alive and release a proper hotfix 🥴
lyric sentinel
Take your time, there's no rush
Also I zipped it on mac so it might contain a file named .DS_Store, a hidden file that macos likes to put a bit everywhere, if you want a zip without it I should be able to generate one