course-selection

[austere tulip]

Based on what you want

[cinder gorge]

I know but students decide that

[austere tulip]

Yeah

But colleges don’t

And that’s your original point

[cinder gorge]

And more students view AP lit harder than AP research and seminar

Look at the stats

[austere tulip]

Cool

[cinder gorge]

So it means it is harder

[austere tulip]

So?

Has it been proven

You’re using another logical fallacy

[cinder gorge]

Yes by the students

[austere tulip]

Bandwagon

[cinder gorge]

Literally

[cinder gorge]

What I am using student data

[austere tulip]

Just because a lot of people say something is true

Doesn’t mean it is

[cinder gorge]

Yes it does technically

[austere tulip]

That’s the bandwagon fallacy

Honestly

I see no point in arguing with you

Because

[cinder gorge]

What it is the truth

[austere tulip]

You don’t have logic

And u are using logical fallacies

[cinder gorge]

How? Tell me

[austere tulip]

And you are using circular logic

Repeating the same things over and over again

[austere tulip]

Bandwagon

[cinder gorge]

Yeah because I am trying to make a point

[austere tulip]

Circular logic

[austere tulip]

No but like circulularly

So he saying

Ap classes are hard

Because students think they are hard

And students think they are hard

Because ap classes are hard

That’s circular reasoning

[cinder gorge]

Yeah but I am saying that if students say a particular AP class is harder than the other than it makes it true think about it

All I am saying

[austere tulip]

But that’s not your point

Again

Ur point is colleges care

Whether u take capstone or ap English

But they simply don’t

They care that u take AP

[cinder gorge]

Yes they do they care if you have challenged yourself a lot

[austere tulip]

That’s the whole point of AP classes

[stone plank]

That’s the point of ap classes

[austere tulip]

Who said capstone is easy

[stone plank]

💀

[austere tulip]

Just because lit is harder

Doesn’t make capstone easy

It’s like saying hitler was worse than Stalin

That doesn’t make Stalin good

[cinder gorge]

Didn’t say that I said capstones are not the rigorous as lit

Or harder academically according to students

[austere tulip]

So capstone is still hard

[cinder gorge]

Capstones are harder than a regular seminar class

I can agree on that

[austere tulip]

exactly

capstones are harder

and more difficult

thus

they show example of rigorous coursework

they are a completely different course choicce

from ap english

so it is people's choice

and colleges will not care

[cinder gorge]

Yeah but if your school views capstones as English courses and AP lit and lang is in there then colleges will view AP lit as the hardest English course

[austere tulip]

no

that's like saying

they view physics C as the only course u can take in science

even tho

bio

[cinder gorge]

Although if you have enough hard APs you don’t need to take another hard AP

[austere tulip]

chem

and physics 1&2 are great

[austere tulip]

I'll say it one last time because you clearly aren't understanding this

Colleges do not care what specific APs you take

as long as you take APs in those areas

[cinder gorge]

Ik they care about how hard of APs you can take

[austere tulip]

because the whole point of APs is to make it more rigorous

[cinder gorge]

And how hard of honors you can take

[austere tulip]

That's like saying colleges care which college class you take in college

[cinder gorge]

No doubt about it but not all APs are created the same

[austere tulip]

You are basically saying this

"OH MY GOD! HOW DARE HE TAKE ECONOMICS. HOW DARE HE NOT TAKE BUSINESS"

OH MY GOD

anyways

[cinder gorge]

Colleges don’t care but in high school they do

[austere tulip]

plz research and get some valid information

[cinder gorge]

For selective ones

[austere tulip]

and then we'll talk

bye

[cinder gorge]

Not the point I am making

I am saying if you take a harder AP class offered to you it will look better

Bye

[raven gyro]

Any high school student from South Africa here?

[lofty surge]

So I'm thinking of taking AP psych but it's for 10th grade only. Should I wait till 10th grade or persuade the teachers to let me in early?

[stone plank]

Just wait

You know how teachers are

[obtuse hedge]

just try

wait

are you an eight grader?

nah

[lofty surge]

I don't have time to sit around and do nothing. The teachers know I'm committed, so why wouldn't they let me in?

[lofty surge]

Indeed.

[obtuse hedge]

the thing is

[stone plank]

Ur right

[obtuse hedge]

the teacherse dont know you

[stone plank]

Just persuade them

[lofty surge]

The least I could do is try, and if they say no. Oh well 🤷‍♀️

[obtuse hedge]

shoot an email tho to the guidence counsular near the end of the school year

to see if you can

[stone plank]

Yea

That’s what I would do if I was u

Just email the guidance counselor

[lofty surge]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

Course selections are next month tho

[obtuse hedge]

oh

yeah do it now then

[stone plank]

Dang my course selections are on February

[obtuse hedge]

i dont have any course selections

[lofty surge]

I've never spoke with the guidance counselor before

[obtuse hedge]

its ok

they are usually very nice and want to help you

[lofty surge]

last time i tried asking for an advanced class my science teacher said I wasn't ready

but idk if psych would be considered an elective, science, or history

[stone plank]

Psychology is science

Study of human behavior

[cinder gorge]

What is your grade in the class

Percentage

[lofty surge]

so I'd take that instead of regular science?

[lofty surge]

97%

[stone plank]

You tell me

[cinder gorge]

Is the class easy

Or difficult

[lofty surge]

well there are requirments

[cinder gorge]

From a scale 1-5

[lofty surge]

pretty easy I only usually mess up one question during the quiz

[lofty surge]

5 as in easiest? I'd say 4

[cinder gorge]

Yeah I can see why your teacher doesn’t want you to go into honors

[cinder gorge]

As in hard

1 easy to 5 hard

[lofty surge]

2

[lofty surge]

I was a little too ambitious last year haha

[cinder gorge]

Yeah you need to get at least 99% in the class

To guarantee it

Also you also can request a exam

[lofty surge]

well tri 1 is now over

tri 2 I shall shoot for 99+

[lofty surge]

for the whole course of science?

[cinder gorge]

Ask your counselor

If you can request a test

To see

[lofty surge]

well I want to take regular science next year

put psych they consider history i believe

or as an elective

idk it's weird

[cinder gorge]

Tell your counselor if you can take AP psych

[lofty surge]

I'll ask.

[cinder gorge]

Ok

[lofty surge]

but again as I said it's a grade 10 class

[cinder gorge]

Any AP classes available for 9th graders

[lofty surge]

I'll shoot them an email.

[hexed charm]

is taking ap psych a bad idea for 10th grade?

[fluid silo]

if you're really interested then go for it.

[lofty surge]

if you're interested, go for it

[hexed charm]

the teacher who does it say most sophmores fail but i feel like i can do it but im not sure, i really only want to do it because it'll look good on my classes ive taken

[steep narwhal]

Is anyone from India giving AP next year?

[lofty surge]

prove them wrong, if you're willing to work your ass off and are genuinely interested and think it'll benefit you then again as I said, go for it

[hexed charm]

alright! thanks sm im definitely gonna sign up now

[lofty surge]

np, and good luck

[pine crown]

is this a good plan for senior year next year?

1 - AP Calculus BC
2 - AP European History
3 - AP Physics C
4 - AP Statistics
5 - AP Biology
6 - AP English Lit
7 - AP Spanish Language
8 - Lab Period
9 - Gym/study hall

[cinder gorge]

Yeah

[fickle rivet]

yes if u wanna commit non existent

[pine crown]

my schedule this year is harder than that and i am doing ok so i think itll work out

[fickle rivet]

show schedule now

bruh how u gonna do physics c, bc, lit and Spanish

and bio

and on top of that euro

[austere tulip]

Wow

[fickle rivet]

u must actually grind

[austere tulip]

wait

what is lab period

[fickle rivet]

and use a time machine in order to finish ur hw

[austere tulip]

What are you doing this year?

[pine crown]

0 - AP Environmental Sci
0 - AP Physics 1
1 - Pre-Calculus Honors
2 - AP US History
3 - AP English Lang
4 - Gym/Physics Lab
5 - Physics Honors
6 - Spanish IVH
7 - AP Chemistry
8 - Chem Lab
9 - Pre-Engineering

[pine crown]

lab is a double science, honors physics, ap chem, ap physics, ap bio have double period every other day

[austere tulip]

oh ok

do u have a luch

lunch*

[fickle rivet]

bruh how do u walk

3 ap sciences 💀

[austere tulip]

on top of physics honors

What are your grades right now?

[pine crown]

nope

[austere tulip]

u should have a lunuch

that is something u shouldn't compromise

[fickle rivet]

at that point just do AP gym

[austere tulip]

especially senior year

with college apps

[pine crown]

i usually keep everything above 95+ but unfortunately this last quarter i had a 93 in ap chem

[austere tulip]

ok

that's fine

[pine crown]

i know, i just have to do better, it was from one bad test

[austere tulip]

did u take any aps sophomore or freshman year

[pine crown]

no they dont let us at our school

[austere tulip]

oh ok

12 Aps is a good number

however

[pine crown]

well they let sophmores take ap world but it didnt fit with my other classes so i was mad about that, but all honors

[austere tulip]

I would give some slack

for senior year

[fickle rivet]

schedule sounds good then

don’t die though

[austere tulip]

because college

apps

[pine crown]

i also do varsity swim with 2 practices a day

idk how i live

[fickle rivet]

u don’t

[austere tulip]

wow

lol

hey that's good

which colleges are you looking for

and are you really good at varsity swim

[fickle rivet]

not even someone with 0 ec’s would do that rigorous of a course load

[austere tulip]

lol

[pine crown]

im also in boy scouts and some clubs

[austere tulip]

ok

that's good

[fickle rivet]

bruh why are you into physics honors and ap physics

[austere tulip]

i think your ecs are good too

Yeah I would say both ap physics and phy honors not necessary

[pine crown]

i used to be really good, now i just do it more for fun and to be in shape, dont plan to in college cause its too much time committment

[austere tulip]

oh ok

[pine crown]

i am enrolled in honors physics, challenging the physics 1 exam to get more credits

[austere tulip]

ohhh ok

so ur not taking ap physics

as a course

at school?

[pine crown]

taking it online

[austere tulip]

ohhh

ok

[fickle rivet]

bru

[pine crown]

same with envi sci bc its not offered at ours

[austere tulip]

ok

one question

what is ur intended major

[pine crown]

dual chem and math

[austere tulip]

ok

so do u need Ap bio?

[pine crown]

no but i want to take it

[austere tulip]

ok lol

[fickle rivet]

ap bio useless

[austere tulip]

you caan

[austere tulip]

I aagree with thaat

[fickle rivet]

unless u wanna go in bio field jobs

[austere tulip]

especially so you can give senior year more slack

and have more time to apply for college

because I think you can easily go to the ivies

[fickle rivet]

man’s doing every ap sciences

except physics 2

[pine crown]

its really easy at our school, a lot of my friends who are in hard classes too just use it as a study hall

[austere tulip]

oh ok

[pine crown]

physics 1 and 2 dont really give you science credit if you take both physics c's which i am gonna do next year, im just doing physics 1 exam for more transferrable credit

[fickle rivet]

true

[austere tulip]

oh ok

[fickle rivet]

also euro is unnecessary too

[austere tulip]

it's good

[fickle rivet]

unless ur intended college gives credit

[austere tulip]

u should have humanities

every year

[pine crown]

we have to

[austere tulip]

also

[fickle rivet]

nah screw humanities

bru

[austere tulip]

what is ur intended college

[pine crown]

cornell is goal school

[austere tulip]

IMO stats is pretty useless

for a math major

I'd rather take multivar calc

it may not be ap

but it's better

[fickle rivet]

depends what math field

[pine crown]

its really easy but im interested in it, was gonna take it with precalc this year but didnt fit
and multivar isnt offered at our school

[austere tulip]

what about taking it online

like u are doing with APES and phys 1

[pine crown]

well i could, but i wouldnt get any credit plus i need calc bc first right

[austere tulip]

true

anyways

[pine crown]

like

[austere tulip]

what is ur gpa

with that courseload

[fickle rivet]

weighted 7.0 unweighted -1

[austere tulip]

also

[pine crown]

i self taught algebra 2 and wanted to keep going past calc into college but i am in pch rn and calc is liek a roadblock to higher stuff

[austere tulip]

how long do you stay in school

till 3:30?

[pine crown]

currently its weighted like 4.3 unweighted 3.99
but my projection by the time i graduate is 4.72 and 3.99

the 4.3 is not counting jr or sr year so i dont have any aps, just honors

[austere tulip]

That's reasonable

yeah

[pine crown]

and i got 1 A- in 9th grade

so my unweight will be 3.99 forever

never 4

[austere tulip]

ohh

for us

an A-

is an A

an A+ is also an A

so only the letter matters

[pine crown]

colleges recalculate it to a standard

when you apply

bc all hs do it diff

[austere tulip]

So I could get a 6.3% on my math final and end with an A

[fickle rivet]

still doesn’t make sense cuz hs’s will have different difficulties in their courses compared to other schools

[austere tulip]

yeah

[fickle rivet]

rigged

[austere tulip]

but I think

u can continue with your schedule aspirations

because u can clearly handle it

however,

[fickle rivet]

bruh u giving college board that paper

[austere tulip]

I would remove at least one course just for the sake of more college prepartions and more achievements in extracurriculars

[fickle rivet]

💰

[pine crown]

true 😭

[fickle rivet]

how much did u spend

[pine crown]

you have to pay per score you wanna share with a college

[fickle rivet]

like 1k

[austere tulip]

wait

u have to pay to share scores

[pine crown]

this year it was like 500 for the tests

yeah

per college per score

[austere tulip]

Why did I just know

[pine crown]

its a total scam

[austere tulip]

I thought u just had to pay to take exam

[fickle rivet]

collegeboard = scam

“non profit” my ass

[austere tulip]

why can't I just take screenshots and send them

[fickle rivet]

cuz they can be forged apparently

[pine crown]

yeha

inspect element

[fickle rivet]

some mf did that

[austere tulip]

that's a scam

cuz by the end of high school I'm also ending with 12 aps

[pine crown]

same with sat

[fickle rivet]

and went all the way to Yale i think

and was later caught

[austere tulip]

But yeah

Good luck

with your courseload

we're here so you don't die

[fickle rivet]

he will die

or has already died

[pine crown]

maybe, cause also college apps

[fickle rivet]

so he’s immortal

[fickle rivet]

did u do sat yet

[pine crown]

im gonna try to get my eagle scout by the end of this year so i can go lax on scouts next year

[pine crown]

just a psat, im gonan do sat in march and april

[fickle rivet]

imo sat is more important than ap exams

do good on that too

[pine crown]

yeah for sure

honestly tho

essays are prob the most important

cause anyone applying to top schools will have good gpa and scores

but the essays are where you can really persuade them

[fickle rivet]

bruh especially Covid year

free gpa boost

[pine crown]

plus somehting to write about

[fickle rivet]

ur taking lang right

[pine crown]

i also have an idea to write about ambition to get ahead, convincing my counselor to let me self study algebra 2 to catch up to where i should be

yes

[fickle rivet]

if u have a good teacher

they’ll go over essays after the exam

usually

[pine crown]

nope

its his first time teaching lang

he kinda really sucks

the exam is pretty easy tho, just his class is awful

[fickle rivet]

well ur fricked

[spice burrow]

Not really a course but is this a good plan?

[pine crown]

You can take APUSH as a sophomore? That's a first I've seen also AP lang and AP lit are seperate

[spice burrow]

Idk i’ll have to find out actually

Thought it was a free choice, but u had to be approved for ap to do them in sophomore year

[fickle rivet]

lmao I did apush in 10th

prob a first cuz ur school doesn’t allow

[pine crown]

Every school I've heard of has AP world for Sophomore year, sometimes AP Euro

But APUSH is usually junior

Every school is different tho

[fickle rivet]

well my school does two years of apush

so technically I did it now and last year

exam this year though

[pine crown]

We have pre AP world 9th
AP world 10th
APUSH 11th
AP euro optional 12th

[austere tulip]

good...but ap lit should come after ap lang, and ap cs principles should come before ap csa

Aalso

[hollow finch]

AP CSP should be a freshman year course

It’s such a joke

[austere tulip]

I had a course selection question

[austere tulip]

it isn't even AP

[hollow finch]

Well technically it is

[austere tulip]

it technically is

[hollow finch]

There is an AP exam

[austere tulip]

but material wise it isn't

[hollow finch]

Yep

[austere tulip]

anyways

[hollow finch]

Material wise my honors classes were harder than my AP classes Lol

[austere tulip]

my friend wants me to take ap music theory with him next year

but i would have to do it zero hour (7:55)

should I do it

[lofty surge]

should i take csp just for the college credits? I mean I'm not really sure if it'll benefit me but I'll get credits, right?

[hollow finch]

If you have room for a filler AP

[austere tulip]

not all colleges

take csp for gpa

but otherwise not a lot give credit

[hollow finch]

Yep great GPA boost

[lofty surge]

colleges look at gpa, correct?

[hollow finch]

They look mostly at Course difficulty and letter grades

Cause GPA lacks context

[lofty surge]

hm

well then it seems irrelevant for me to take it

is it any fun?

[austere tulip]

i mean

if u don't have a better elective

yeah

[hollow finch]

It’s very fun

Free work period

[austere tulip]

I just wouldn't recommend if you know coding

otherwise it's good

[lofty surge]

why not

[hollow finch]

I literally just did work for other classes Lol

[hollow finch]

Cause you won’t learn anything knew and will be wasting your time

You do scratch in CSP

[austere tulip]

cuzz it's very introductory

like it's block coding

[lofty surge]

damn

[hollow finch]

You barely touch on python like a couple weeks at most

[lofty surge]

stuff we did in 4th grade 😭

[hollow finch]

Yep

[lofty surge]

I could learn that in my free time

[hollow finch]

Literally 30% of your exam score is a scratch project

[hollow finch]

Exactly

[lofty surge]

you've convinced me not to take it now lol

alr now I have a question on what are required history classes I need to take

and how hard are ap history classes compared to the regular classes

[austere tulip]

that's depemdemt

[hollow finch]

What does your school offer

[austere tulip]

on high school

[hollow finch]

AP History courses are generally lots of work

[lofty surge]

lemme check

[hollow finch]

And the AP history exams are some of the hardest

Especially apush

[austere tulip]

true

ive heard

apush is menorization

[hollow finch]

Yeah and it’s so many goddamn details that it makes my brain want to just self destruct

[lofty surge]

World History, Civics, and U.S. History are required

[austere tulip]

take ccivics

[hollow finch]

Does your school offer AP?

[austere tulip]

take civics freshman

[lofty surge]

AP U.S. Government & Politics
AP U.S. History

AP Human Geography

[austere tulip]

and then AP world sophomore

[lofty surge]

and AP European History

[austere tulip]

and then APUSh junior

and Euro senior

or actually gov

[lofty surge]

what abt world history

[hollow finch]

I suggest AP Human Geo and Civics freshman year

[lofty surge]

oh nvm

[lofty surge]

can i take 2 courses at once?

[austere tulip]

sure

[hollow finch]

Your school should allow it

[lofty surge]

but there is only 7 period in a day lol

[hollow finch]

One can just take ur elective spot instead of CSP if you’re ok with that

[austere tulip]

yeah

[lofty surge]

oh yeah that's fine

can I do one or the other tho

like ap human geo instead of civics

[stone plank]

Your gonna have so much work next year your gonna have to find a way to balance it 😭

[hollow finch]

Well civics is required so that’s top priority

[lofty surge]

ah

yeah get the required stuff out of the way

[austere tulip]

he has more this year

[lofty surge]

and there are no aps to replace regular civics to ap civics

[pine crown]

Yeah more this year

[stone plank]

Oh yeah your gonna have work and homework non stop next year

[pine crown]

This year I'm taking harder stuff tho and more of it and I'm doing ok

[stone plank]

U have to find the complete plan to balance all that

[lofty surge]

I can take apush later on and ap world which would make up for u.s. history and world

[austere tulip]

yeah

[spice burrow]

Aight and yeah its an old ss i meant to have principles before

[spice burrow]

W pfp bossman

[hollow finch]

Senior year 😭

[hollow finch]

Thanks Bro

[spice burrow]

If I were to take ap spanish, when should I? Junior so my senior year is more chill?

[pine crown]

Depends on your Spanish level, the entire language is at play on the exam

[hollow finch]

Junior if it lines up with your pathway

I can’t really speak on the difficulty cause it varies by teacher but AP Spanish Lang might be my easiest class this year

Cause my teacher is free

[spice burrow]

What year are u in

Also there’s only spanish 1-3 right?

[lofty surge]

omg I just found this

I have too many options now 😭

[spice burrow]

Whats the typical science pathway in new york if u didnt and did the regents in 8th grade

[mint thorn]

I mean yeah typically but there’s sometimes Spanish 4

[round token]

I wish American Sign Language was offered at my school 😭

[hollow finch]

I’m a junior

[spice burrow]

What Spanish classes did u take in freshman and sophomore

[hollow finch]

What do you want to do in the future

[hollow finch]

Freshman: Spanish 2

Sophomore: Spanish 3

[spice burrow]

Took regents for Spanish 1 during 8th im assuming?

[hollow finch]

I took Spanish 1 in 8th grade

[spice burrow]

Yep

[hollow finch]

Idk I’m in California Lol

[spice burrow]

Whats the typical there

Cuz cali snd ny have similar routes cuz regents

[hollow finch]

Well it’s pretty simple

It’s just 1,2,3, AP 4 or regular 4

The only way to alter that is to get a year ahead

[spice burrow]

Well here its, if u didnt do regents, living environment then earth science then idk

[hollow finch]

Oh my bad I was talking about Spanish

Science well that depends on what your school offers

[spice burrow]

I think its state wide if its public school

And i just found out

After earth science it’s physics

No required chemistry ig

[lofty surge]

probably something having to do with psychology, business, or writing

[hollow finch]

Then I suggest doing sales and marketing or journalism

Senior year try doing AP Psych

[cinder gorge]

Pretty easy class for senior year

[lofty surge]

Yeah, I might do psych freshman year and the others sophomore and junior.

[hollow finch]

Yeah I’m doing AP Psych rn it’s pretty easy

One of the easiest APs

[lofty surge]

is there any APs you wouldn't recommend for a freshman, just so I know what I should be avoiding

[hollow finch]

Don’t take too many APs freshman year

I can only suggest the easy ones like AP Human Geo, CSP, Psych, and Apes

[pine crown]

depends on your current educational background, like you cant take ap bio, chem, physics till you have done the high school course at a regular or honors level

[cinder gorge]

Do you suggest taking AP chem as a freshman

[hollow finch]

Nope

[pine crown]

no

[hollow finch]

No way

[pine crown]

you cant

[cinder gorge]

My school allows it

[hollow finch]

Take CP Chem if you can

[pine crown]

unless you take like honors or regular chem in middle school

cause ap chem you have to know a lot just from the start

[austere tulip]

Not for us

We can take ap physics

[lofty surge]

well I'm doing physics currently but idk if it'd be good to go from 8th grade physics to AP physics

[hollow finch]

Do AP Chem Sophomore year you will have a much easier time

[austere tulip]

Without honors or regular ohysics

[austere tulip]

That’s what I’m doing

I’m taking regular Chen over the summer

[pine crown]

you have 8th grade physics??

[cinder gorge]

I will do AP chem freshman year I want to see what happens

[lofty surge]

alr thanks

[lofty surge]

yup

[austere tulip]

Aren’t I a freshman now

[cinder gorge]

Hope I come out alive

[austere tulip]

U*

[hollow finch]

8th grade science is physics

[pine crown]

good luck, hardest class i have taken so far

[cinder gorge]

I mean yeah

[lofty surge]

6th grade is life science, 7th is earth/space, and 8th is physics

[pine crown]

8th grade for us was earth science if you are a year ahead

[austere tulip]

So u can’t anymore

U should take ap Chem sophomore

[cinder gorge]

Oh ok

[cinder gorge]

Alright

[hollow finch]

Oh nvm I was two years ahead

[austere tulip]

That doesn’t matter

Different high schools have different units

Middle *

[pine crown]

i did first hs class in 8th tho cause if you are a year ahead you can start the hs ones

[austere tulip]

I did that with math

[cinder gorge]

Hey dude what would happen if a kid took AP chem his freshman year

[pine crown]

Science 8H - 7th
Earth Science H - 8th
Living Environment (Bio) H - 9th
Chemistry H - 10th
AP Chem, Physics H - 11th
AP Physics, AP Bio - 12th

[pine crown]

probably fail
depends how smart they are tho

[cinder gorge]

He would probably get a 20%

💀

[austere tulip]

Aren’t u also doing environmental science

Ap

[pine crown]

yes

i dont count that as a core science tho

[hollow finch]

That’s not a real science class

[austere tulip]

Ur smart tho

That’s a lot of aps

Ur taking

[hollow finch]

That is a joke

[austere tulip]

And u me managing it

[lofty surge]

so would it be a bad idea if I took physics nxt yr

[austere tulip]

Can*

[cinder gorge]

No but like there was this kid who was doing AP Chemistry his 8th grade year the kid was a genius he scored like a 1600 as a sophomore and was taking calc at a local college for 2 years

Not joking

[hollow finch]

Yeah child prodigy

[lofty surge]

required courses are bio, chem, then physics

[austere tulip]

Ok

So take honors bio

Then ap Chem

[pine crown]

yeah some kids are just crazy like that, we had a kid skip 4 grades and was still 2 years ahead in everything but english

[austere tulip]

The. Ap physics

[cinder gorge]

Yeah the kid was a legit genius doesn’t surprise me if he is a child prodigy

[cinder gorge]

No he skipped a year in English I think

[hollow finch]

Does your school offer AP Physics C or AP Physics 1

[austere tulip]

I’ve only skipped a year of math

[hollow finch]

Or both maybe?

[austere tulip]

Mine does

[cinder gorge]

Also I forgot to mention the kid got accepted into Duke, Harvard and Princeton

[lofty surge]

physics C

[hollow finch]

Ok

Yeah do that

What math are you in

[pine crown]

only do physics c if you know clauclus

[lofty surge]

from 8th grade to physics C?

[pine crown]

its calculus based

physics 1 is algebra

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[lofty surge]

regular pre-algebra but I'm learning algebra 1 on my free time

[austere tulip]

Ok

[hollow finch]

Calculus is fun though Lmao screw algebra

[austere tulip]

So go to geometry next year

[lofty surge]

me?

[pine crown]

he is in pre algebra

[hollow finch]

Good

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[hollow finch]

So you should be able to do physics C by junior year

[lofty surge]

I hope I can do geo next yr if I pass the algebra 1 test

[austere tulip]

No

[austere tulip]

Senior year

[lofty surge]

what should I do the first 3 years then

[austere tulip]

Bio honors

Ap Chem

Ap physics 1

[hollow finch]

Well by junior year he’ll be in Precalc that’s all that’s required at least at my school

[lofty surge]

we don't have that

[austere tulip]

No?

But you have physics C

[lofty surge]

yes

[austere tulip]

That’s weird

Umm

Then take honors physics

[pine crown]

how do you go straight into ap chem at ur school? you have to know like all the honors chem stuff before unit 1 at ours

[austere tulip]

And self study

[austere tulip]

Yeah

For us

We have to take summer school Chem

[lofty surge]

ion think that's required at our school

[austere tulip]

And then at the start of the course

[pine crown]

yeah maybe to take it but he still wouldnt know calculus unless he teaches himself

[austere tulip]

We review honors Chem

[hollow finch]

Idk about others but my school offers a summer prep course for Chem

[pine crown]

that would be ideal

[hollow finch]

They teach you simple derivatives and integrals

[austere tulip]

That’s what we have too

[hollow finch]

Thats all you really need

[austere tulip]

We have Chem summer

And they review honors Chem

[pine crown]

at our school we have to take the regular or honors class first cause my state has regents exams

[austere tulip]

Before reaching ap Chem

[lofty surge]

I wanna take ap trigonometry in senior year after required maths

[austere tulip]

That’s doesn’t exist

[lofty surge]

in my school it does

[pine crown]

trig is just a unit of geometry, a2 and precalc

[hollow finch]

Trig 🤮

[pine crown]

its the easiest thing

[lofty surge]

hey don't dis the trig

it's the best

[austere tulip]

But it can’t be AP

[lofty surge]

my aunt taught me

[hollow finch]

Trig is stupid it’s just memorization

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[lofty surge]

for mine it is

[pine crown]

yeah but its also just plug into a calculator

[hollow finch]

None of it makes any practical sense until late calculus

[pine crown]

theres no ap trig what 💀

[austere tulip]

What exam do you take at the end of the year

[lofty surge]

in my school there is

[hollow finch]

Are you thinking of AP Calculus?

[lofty surge]

hm?

[austere tulip]

Cuz there’s no ap exam

[hollow finch]

Send a SS of your course list

[austere tulip]

What’s the purpose

Of ap trig

Dude

[pine crown]

APs are national classes, you have to take a standardizes test at the end of the year, AP Trig doesnt exist

[austere tulip]

Ur schools using a registered trademark

As a course

They can get sued

[lofty surge]

lemme find it

[lofty surge]

it's fun

[pine crown]

if it existed it would be a waste of time

[austere tulip]

U learn trig in every math course

But again

[hollow finch]

Trig is a waste of time already

[austere tulip]

Ap is a registered trademark

[pine crown]

yeah its covered in like very basic hs math
common sense

[austere tulip]

Ur school is going to get sued

[austere tulip]

Anyways

How much hmwk do I have

U*

Autocrrect

[pine crown]

lots

varies every day

[austere tulip]

Like how many hours

Average

[pine crown]

like 4-6

[austere tulip]

Wow

[hollow finch]

Do you have a hard schedule?

[austere tulip]

When do u end school

[austere tulip]

Did u see

[hollow finch]

Nah

[austere tulip]

He’s taking 11 classes junior year

4 aps

7 honors

[pine crown]

5

[austere tulip]

Oh

Same thing

And senior year 7 aps

[hollow finch]

Can you send the list

[pine crown]

0 - AP Environmental Sci
0 - AP Physics 1
1 - Pre-Calculus Honors
2 - AP US History
3 - AP English Lang
4 - Gym/Physics Lab
5 - Physics Honors
6 - Spanish IVH
7 - AP Chemistry
8 - Chem Lab
9 - Pre-Engineering

[hollow finch]

Oh

[lofty surge]

I meant advanced my bad lol

[austere tulip]

No

[pine crown]

advanced algebra and trig is not ap

[austere tulip]

Don’t take that

Advanced algebra and trig

Is for people

[lofty surge]

i know, my bad

[austere tulip]

Who took intermediate algebra II

[pine crown]

itll just me dumbed down algebra 2

take ap calc

[hollow finch]

That’s a lot but at least some of those are easy like AP Lang and Apes

[lofty surge]

well what is required?

[pine crown]

in self teaching apes tho, and the ap lang exam is easy but the course sucks bc the teacher wants it to be the hardest class

[austere tulip]

At our school it’s for academically challenged people

So yeah

I wouldn’t recommend

Unless u have trouble in math class

[pine crown]

yeah like a local math course or math 12

[lofty surge]

9th grade I'd like to do geo, 10th algebra 2 and idk what for 11th and 12th

[austere tulip]

U have precalc

And calc

[hollow finch]

And AB

[lofty surge]

required?

[hollow finch]

What’s the difference between regular Calc and AB ☠️

[pine crown]

this is a normal progression:
Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II
Precalc*
AP Calc AB, AP Calc BC

[hollow finch]

AB is literally an intro Calc course

[lofty surge]

what abt statistics

[pine crown]

AP Calc AB is the first semester of college calc
AP Calc BC is the first 2 semesters of college calc

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[hollow finch]

I did not ask that

[lofty surge]

isn't that important

[pine crown]

AP stats very easy, you can double it up with anything past algebra 2

[hollow finch]

Yeah it’s always good to know basic stats

[austere tulip]

I disagree

[pine crown]

its like the ap bio of math tho, very easy

[austere tulip]

I thinking ap stats is useless

Basic stats are learned in like geometry

And precalc

[hollow finch]

I’ve never taken that’s just what I’ve heard from many people

[austere tulip]

I’m never going to take stats

Cuz I know basic stats

[pine crown]

difficulty is like the same as regular level algebra 2 im pretty sure

[hollow finch]

Damn I wish my AP Bio class was easy, the teacher at my school is so bad that only 15 kids signed up this year ☠️

[lofty surge]

so..
9th- geo
10th- algebra 2
11th- precalc/AP statistics
12th- AP calc/AP calc AB

[pine crown]

yes thats where you should be, 1 year ahead of normal

i reccomend taking AP Calc BC in 12th tho, you get 8 college cred instead of 4

[hollow finch]

Gotta do Calc A first though, maybe over the summer

[pine crown]

usually calc A is built into precalc honors

it is at my school, if not yeah do it over the summer

[hollow finch]

Correct

[austere tulip]

No u don’t

Calc ab and calc bc are the same

[lofty surge]

u do calc ab during precalc?

[austere tulip]

With bc having more

[pine crown]

no

[hollow finch]

☠️

[austere tulip]

Stuff

[austere tulip]

Read the next thing I said

But yeah

[hollow finch]

BC skips over Calc A

Assuming you learned it

[austere tulip]

No

All of AB is covered in bc

[pine crown]

precalc is like algebra 2 but more involved and you should be well rounded in that stuff before you start calc
"the hardest part of calculus is the precalculus"

[austere tulip]

AB

[hollow finch]

Have you taken BC?

[austere tulip]

Look at the course description

[hollow finch]

You didn’t answer my question

[austere tulip]

That juts might be your school

No

[pine crown]

they say that, but they end up skimming most of it to cover everyhting

[hollow finch]

BC starts at integrals

[lofty surge]

alr

[austere tulip]

Our school covers it

[pine crown]

they assume you know limits and derivatives and integrals

[hollow finch]

You need to know limits, derivatives, and applications of derivatives

[austere tulip]

Cuz my friend is in it

[lofty surge]

also would it be bad to take general classes in college?

[pine crown]

no but its kinda a waste

[hollow finch]

Idk how college works really

[pine crown]

like if you can do ap in hs and avoid it i would

[lofty surge]

true

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[pine crown]

focus on major, maybe graduate early, go for a double

[austere tulip]

That’s why take humanities

[hollow finch]

Oh yeah get as much AP credit as you can

[austere tulip]

And aps

Even if u don’t want that field

Cuz u can get rid of elective credit later

[lofty surge]

i just don't wanna overwork myself in highschool

[hollow finch]

AP ≠ Hard

[lofty surge]

doing all geo, algebra 2, precalc, calc, calc AB and BC

[hollow finch]

My only hard AP classes so far have been Apush and BC both of which I’m doing right now

[pine crown]

depends on the course, i would say ap chem, ap physics and ap calc bc are pretty hard
but then you have apes and ap lang that are easy

apush is generally hard but i am good at it so not for me

[hollow finch]

Yep that’s why I said AP doesn’t automatically mean hard

Especially stuff like AP Human Geo AP Psych and Apes

Do those freshman and sophomore year so you can easy into the AP workload and style of the courses

You don’t want something like apush or AP Chem to be your first AP Lol

[lofty surge]

environmental science isn't required though and might be irrelevant depending on what u major in

[pine crown]

thats why i am self studying it, just a bonus credit, prob will only count elective

i find it interesting tho

[hollow finch]

I find it interesting until they start preaching about saving the environment

[lofty surge]

it's kinda hard to self-study it's a lot of catching up

[pine crown]

yeah that part is a bit annoying

[austere tulip]

Not if you find the right resources

[lofty surge]

yeah all the "climate change is real!" "save the planet!"

[austere tulip]

Like for ap csa

[hollow finch]

Well there’s lots of resources to help

[austere tulip]

I found this website

And it basically teaches u csa

And I learned it in a month

[pine crown]

kahn academy is pretty good

[lofty surge]

well I needa learn algebra 1

[pine crown]

i taught myself algebra 2 on there

[hollow finch]

For apes there’s a guy on YouTube that goes through all the units

[pine crown]

nope

[lofty surge]

take an hour per day just to work on it

[hollow finch]

Basically

[pine crown]

i thought you saidf apush

lmao

[hollow finch]

He’s Mr.Smedes

Basically Heimler’s science

[lofty surge]

but what units? there seems to be so much to learn, how do u organize it all?

[pine crown]

i went therough it in order

are you in algebra 1 rn

[lofty surge]

I know it's possible, but as someone who is in pre-algebra currently how do I learn what I'm doing now and algebra 1

[austere tulip]

Count up the number of units in khan academy

Divide by the time u have

And do that much in that time

[lofty surge]

smart

[pine crown]

well, they do have math 8 on khan, and algebra 1
algebra 1 is very basic tho

do you know how to factor

[lofty surge]

but don't u need basic pre-algebra down b4 hand?

[hollow finch]

Most of Algebra 2 is honestly filler. There’s just a few types of graphs that are important and that’s all you really need to take away

[lofty surge]

factor as in what again?

[pine crown]

not really middle school math is kinda a waste

[pine crown]

like could you turn x^2-5x+6 into (x-2)(x-3)

[hollow finch]

Yeah I have a friend that literally skipped pre algebra Lmao

[pine crown]

thats like 70% of algebra 1

[lofty surge]

uh no

not yet anyways

[pine crown]

so thats what they teach in algebra 1

[hollow finch]

Álgebra 1 is just factoring completing thy square and quadratic formula

[pine crown]

but you could solve something like x+4=6 right

[austere tulip]

Honestly

U could skip algebra I

Cuz u will be going to geometry

[pine crown]

learning to factor will be important tho

[austere tulip]

And that doesn’t require much algebra

And then u will be going to algebra II

Where u will review basically all of algebra I

[lofty surge]

2 💀

[pine crown]

you can skip it if you are willing to take it online and your school allows you

[lofty surge]

idk if they'd let me skip all of algebra 1

[pine crown]

of course that is 2, but like you know how to move things between the sides right? thats pretty much all pre algebra is
i know i am insulting your intelligence i am just trying to find out if you know how to set up 1 variable equations

[lofty surge]

from pre-algebra to geo

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[lofty surge]

either add or subtract of both sides right?

[austere tulip]

Geometry does not require much algebra

[pine crown]

yeah or multiply and divide

[lofty surge]

yup

[austere tulip]

And u will review algebra i in a2

I have friends who did that

And are fine

[pine crown]

so yeah if you did a1 online you could go to geo

[lofty surge]

I'll see

[pine crown]

it would be hard tho

[austere tulip]

U don’t need to take it online

[pine crown]

cause you do need a1 skills

[lofty surge]

since algebra 1 is technically required

[pine crown]

you still have to factor and use quadratics in geo

[austere tulip]

Yeah I would say to review that unit

Otherwise don’t care about the others as much

[lofty surge]

alr I'll do some research

[pine crown]

know how to graph

some transoformations

graph linear, quadratic, exponential graphs

all used in geo

[hollow finch]

Pythagorean theorem

[pine crown]

^

[lofty surge]

ez

lmao

[austere tulip]

Transformation is taught in pre algebra

[hollow finch]

Yep

[pine crown]

factoring, complete the square, slip factor, foil, quad formula

[lofty surge]

it's literally just a^2+b^2=c^2

[austere tulip]

If u know factoring and graphing

U are good

For algebra I

[pine crown]

-b+/-sqrtb^2-4ac/2a

[lofty surge]

uh that's confusing

[pine crown]

it looks better when not typed

[austere tulip]

Also

Did y’all learn focus of a parabola in geometry

That was the coolest

[pine crown]

trust me you will have it memorized in like a year

[lofty surge]

alr

[hollow finch]

I learned that in Precalc from what I can remember

[austere tulip]

Our geometry teacher was a math team coach

So his questions

Were difficult

And math team styled

And everything

That class was difficult

We had lots of homework

[pine crown]

algebra 1, geo and a2

all mentioned it

in quadratics units

[austere tulip]

Yeah

We did in depth in the coordinate geometry unit

[pine crown]

my favorite math thing i have done so far is polar graphs in precalc h

polar graphs are graphed on this rather than a traditional axis

and you can make fun shapes

[hollow finch]

My favorite was the vectors stuff

[austere tulip]

That’s cool

[hollow finch]

Cause the applications were pretty cool

[austere tulip]

I haven’t learned polar graphs yet

But that sounds cool

[hollow finch]

Polar graphs are easy and fun

[pine crown]

you will do it in precalc

yeah super fun

thingamabobber what math are you in rn

[austere tulip]

I’m in A2 rn

[pine crown]

ahh

regular or honors

[austere tulip]

Honors

[pine crown]

good

[hollow finch]

The only time my precalc class was chill was when we drew flowers and stuff Lmao

[pine crown]

precalc is pretty easy

[austere tulip]

I’m planning on skipping it

[hollow finch]

My teacher was awful but it still wasn’t that bad

[pine crown]

i wouldnt but that is your choice

[austere tulip]

Yeah Ik

[pine crown]

all the precalc is very important for calc

[austere tulip]

Cuz I’ve been told precalc

Is just a2

With extra stuff

[pine crown]

not really

[austere tulip]

And geometry

[pine crown]

it builds off of everything but it also does all the skills you will need to set up the problems in calc

plus starts calc a

[hollow finch]

Nah it’s pretty important

You should do it

Especially if you wanna do Calc

It’s not important until late Calc but still

[pine crown]

my teacher always says the hardest part of calc is the precalc
in all his ap calc classes 2/3 of the points off are from the precalc steps setting it up

and not the calculus itself

[hollow finch]

Yeah

Makes sense

[austere tulip]

Oh ok

That’s fine

[pine crown]

what grade are you in

[austere tulip]

Freshman

[pine crown]

also i thought linear algebra was before multivar

[pine crown]

oh good so you are 2 years ahead

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[pine crown]

i wish i could have done that, i was stuck in regular math for awhile till i finally convinced my guidance counselor to let me self study a2

[austere tulip]

Oh

Ok

For me

I was tired of 6th grade

[pine crown]

if i was initially but in the accelerated program in like 6th grade id be past calc rn

[austere tulip]

Math

It was so boring

So I applied

[pine crown]

but i didnt care about school till like 9th

[austere tulip]

And when I took the test

I only did half of it

[pine crown]

oh they didnt let us pick

[austere tulip]

But they still let me in for some reason

[pine crown]

they just told sopme kids they were