course-selection

[obtuse hedge]

my school has prereqs but they are very lenient

you can just ask nicely and they'll put you in lmao

[hollow finch]

Precalc should be in there

But honestly Precalc is kinda pointless

[cinder gorge]

My school doesn’t offer Precalc

[obtuse hedge]

you dont need stats

[hollow finch]

Then AB is next yes

[obtuse hedge]

take precalc dont take stats

oh

maybe alg 2 includes precal?

dunno

[cinder gorge]

Alright so I will have to learn precalc

[obtuse hedge]

i'd be supprised if they didnt teach it

you should learn it your junior year if youre going at a normal pace

[cinder gorge]

Junior year is Algebra 2

[hollow finch]

Summer

Do it

[hearty bough]

Some of this stuff is easy to learn by itself so it's easier to just excel to AP Calc being self taught

[cinder gorge]

Although for me it is sophomore year

[obtuse hedge]

ok algebra 2 is probably precalc then

[hollow finch]

Trust me Precalc is quick they stretch it out a lot

[obtuse hedge]

yeah

[hearty bough]

Not unless you take Algebra 1 in 8th grade

[cinder gorge]

And there is Functions/statistics/ and Trigonometry idk if that is calculus

[hearty bough]

Then you get it out of the way quickly

[obtuse hedge]

yeah you need those for sure

except for stats

[cinder gorge]

So I should be good right

[obtuse hedge]

yeah, imo dont take a honors stats class just do AP

[cinder gorge]

Alright

[hearty bough]

Yeah in that field specifically you don't necessarily need stats

[obtuse hedge]

yeah

[hearty bough]

It just clumps and adds more useless work

[obtuse hedge]

if youre gonna take stats just do AP, any other stats class would be a total waste

[cinder gorge]

Yeah but it says that it is a 12th grade class

[obtuse hedge]

WHAT

💀 10th graders can take it at my school

just dont do stats until 12th grade then

if you really wanna to take it

[cinder gorge]

Yeah my school is shit

[hearty bough]

Nahhhh it ain't a 12th grade class

[cinder gorge]

No I can’t take AB until 12th

[obtuse hedge]

just take another class in place of stats

honors stats

[hearty bough]

I'm sorry but are yall that dumb to where you can't have it?😭

[obtuse hedge]

yeah fr

stats is one of the easier APs

[cinder gorge]

There is calculus methods but that requires FST

[obtuse hedge]

im confused

just take that class then

[hearty bough]

Not enough smart ppl there to get AP stats then

[cinder gorge]

Oh ok

[obtuse hedge]

you dont need to be smart to take AP stats

just not stupid

[hearty bough]

Yeah but they need enough students who will be interested in the class

[obtuse hedge]

i guess

[cinder gorge]

I wish my school had AP stats but my school is too shit to have that

[obtuse hedge]

just take it 12th grade

dont bother with an honors stats tho, fill it with a better class

i bet if you get the prereqs out of the way you can take calc 11th grade

[cinder gorge]

There isn’t any classes to fill it in

[hearty bough]

Thats depressing

[obtuse hedge]

bro can you just drop the math classes youre taking the next few years

[cinder gorge]

Look at the prereqs

[obtuse hedge]

yeah you dont need stats

[cinder gorge]

I need FST though

Because it contains Functions and Trigonometry

[obtuse hedge]

you just need functions and trig

which is probably alg 2 at your school

yeah

[cinder gorge]

No it is a separate class

[obtuse hedge]

thats alg 2

[obtuse hedge]

you dont need it then

just take alg 2

and you can go to calc

[cinder gorge]

I don’t

But I am required to take it

[obtuse hedge]

bruh

no way

[cinder gorge]

Ik my school is very shit

[obtuse hedge]

theyre making you take p much the same class twice?

[cinder gorge]

I hate it so much

[obtuse hedge]

can you double up in math?

[cinder gorge]

Yes

[cinder gorge]

No you need to have a FastBridge score in the 99th percentile to bump one grade

[obtuse hedge]

ugh

i guess you'll just have to double down

🤦‍♂️

with a lame ass honors stats

[cinder gorge]

Fr

I wish the school added AP stats

[obtuse hedge]

that fucking sucks lmao

[cinder gorge]

Because regular statistics is too easy

[obtuse hedge]

yeah you should be able to take it earlier

maybe ask your counsuler if you can take AP stats early

never hurts to ask

or the teacher who teaches the class

[cinder gorge]

My school doesn’t have AP stats

[obtuse hedge]

i thought you said it does

at 12th grade

[cinder gorge]

It only has AP Calculus AB
AP Chemistry
AP US Gov
AP US History
AP Human Geo
AP Language and Composition

[obtuse hedge]

bruh

😭 no physics?? or bio??

[cinder gorge]

Yeah

It is bad

Super bad

[obtuse hedge]

holyshit just do all the AP your school has

you can do it all in one year lmao

[cinder gorge]

I am doing every single one except AP Lang

And AP music theory

[obtuse hedge]

no lang is probably the most useful one

or one of the most useful ones

[cinder gorge]

I am not good at writing though

[obtuse hedge]

you can skip an english requirement in college

[cinder gorge]

In a single year or...?

[obtuse hedge]

doesnt matter

[obtuse hedge]

if you follow the rubric youre gona get a 4 or 5 garunteed

[cinder gorge]

Sophomore-Senior

oh okay

because i was about to say

[cinder gorge]

I hope

I will drop Calculus and focus on Lang

[obtuse hedge]

take the class i promise you

[obtuse hedge]

NO DO BOTH

[cinder gorge]

don't do us gov and us history on the same year

[cinder gorge]

But I want to do AP chem

[obtuse hedge]

DO THEY LIMIT YOUR APS?

[cinder gorge]

Something has to go

[obtuse hedge]

DO ALL OF THEM GRRR

[cinder gorge]

No

I only need to do like 4/6

To get into a good college

[obtuse hedge]

do one math, one science, one english, one hummanities

[cinder gorge]

Why?

[obtuse hedge]

well roundedness

also why would you want to take so many social studies lmao

they arent as useful

if college cred is your goal you gotta do calc, lang, and a science

[cinder gorge]

To get the highest APs

[obtuse hedge]

no dont do that

[cinder gorge]

So I can show colleges

[obtuse hedge]

do APs that matter

[cinder gorge]

AP Lang, AP US History, AP Human Geo, AP Calc and AP Chem

[obtuse hedge]

yes that is fine

[cinder gorge]

Will that be enough

[obtuse hedge]

yeah

[cinder gorge]

To get into a selective college

[obtuse hedge]

well

if thats all your school offers

does your school have duel enrollment?

maybe you can self study for some APs

[cinder gorge]

Like

[obtuse hedge]

can you take college classes

[cinder gorge]

You can get college credit from the class

[cinder gorge]

No I cannot

[obtuse hedge]

ok

you might want to self study then

literally

take as many of the hardest classes you can handle

[cinder gorge]

Like can I take the hardest APs

[obtuse hedge]

whats your intended major btw

[cinder gorge]

Business

[obtuse hedge]

ok

yeah you can self study micro and macro economics if you like

its not too bad

[cinder gorge]

Yeah but how am I supposed to take the exam

[obtuse hedge]

sign up

on the website

[cinder gorge]

Ok

But will I still get college credit @obtuse hedge

[obtuse hedge]

yes

[austere tulip]

That matters

On your score

And on your college

But I would still recommend

[cinder gorge]

My top college is Stanford

And USC

[austere tulip]

Because it shows colleges your passion for that subject

That u self studied something not offered by your school

[austere tulip]

That’s one of my top colleges

[obtuse hedge]

for stanford you really gotta grind

[cinder gorge]

I will get rejected though

So USC it is

[obtuse hedge]

find what youre interested in and take it all the way

[austere tulip]

Don’t worry

U don’t know until u try

My like number 1 is MIT

But that’s impossible

[cinder gorge]

No I have a 3.8 GPA I am getting rejected for sure

[austere tulip]

3.8 is fine

This is only freshman year

By senior year

[obtuse hedge]

stanford doesnt even look at freshman year grades lmao

[austere tulip]

U could to maintain at least 3.9

And that’s good

Are your extracurriculars good

[cinder gorge]

Yes I haven’t done it yet but my extracurricular’s are leadership team, student council, DECA and a part time job

[austere tulip]

I think that’s god

If you can get leadership roles in them

Maybe win a few distinctions

Ur extracurriculars are really good for someone who wants to do business

Very focused

Now I would just try out to win awards in these clubs and become president

And I think you can easily get into Stanford after thst

Wel apply

Based on ur race and income and stuff u might not cuz college is a lottery and quotas needed

[cinder gorge]

Yeah I am Asian, $500,000 income and no legacy

[austere tulip]

Is that true

Or

Are u being sarcastic

[cinder gorge]

No it’s the truth

I am not joking

Deadass

[mint thorn]

okay maybe don’t brag about your families income

That’s kinda lc and also just why

[cinder gorge]

I am not I am just telling him my demographics

Also I got to mention I from a state that doesn’t get much applicants

[mint thorn]

Huh okay

Fair enough

[austere tulip]

Ok

Then yeah

U should be able to get into Stanford

[austere tulip]

I’m Asian too

[cinder gorge]

Southeast Asian or where are your parents from?

My parents are from Southeast Asia

[austere tulip]

South Asia

[cinder gorge]

I meant South Asia not SouthEast Asia

Sorry for the typo

But anyway what country are your parents from

My parents are from India

[austere tulip]

Same

[cinder gorge]

What part I am from the North

Delhi Area

[austere tulip]

Same

[mint thorn]

I mean on paper yeah but it really depends a LOT on teacher recommendations and your luck

So I’d give it a higher chance but still not a guarantee by any means

[cinder gorge]

Lol he doesn’t guarantee it he just said I have a better chance than average

Or that is what he meant

[austere tulip]

Yeah all of that is true

[normal ember]

Here's an updated version of my plan as well as my school's courses (The course card is from last year, so some courses may be added or removed in the future). Also, I failed to mention in the original message that I want to go into CS and/or physics; any new recommendations/suggestions?

[undone grove]

Is it better to take AP Bio or AP Chem first?

[cinder gorge]

AP bio

Way better choice

[undone grove]

Okay.

[flat latch]

AP bio easier

chem is so confusing

[austere tulip]

This is a great schedule for your major. Just one more thing…I would add ap physics C somewhere because that is calculus based an more advanced and u said u wanted to go into physics.

[normal ember]

Yeah, I was going to do that, except my school doesn't currently offer it

[austere tulip]

Ohh

Ok

Also

Is AICE just AP

But from UK

[cinder gorge]

Why are you taking BC sophomore year

[hollow finch]

He’s a higher intelectual being

[austere tulip]

He must be advanced in math

[cinder gorge]

Yeah like 3 years ahead I would assume

3 or 4

[austere tulip]

Yeah 3

[cinder gorge]

@austere tulip does your school offer Calc BC

Your sophomore year

[austere tulip]

Yeah

My friend

He’s taking it next year

[cinder gorge]

Is he in like precalc right now

[austere tulip]

Yeah

And I was talking to someone else on discord

And they are taking calc bc freshman year

[cinder gorge]

Oh

[cinder gorge]

Kid must be 4 years ahead

[austere tulip]

I would like to skip precalc but I’m kind of scared

[cinder gorge]

I think you will be fine

I think they cover a little bit of precalc

At the start of the year

[austere tulip]

Uh

Ok

[hidden willow]

Yo anyone here?

I want to major in CS but my parents are kinda pushing me to take biology

but im really bad at bio

my midterm for bio this year was 82

I was wondering what other courses can I take?

I've already took Computer engineering

but UOW

needs at least 2 uni level courses so idk

would love anyone helping me later

[wise forge]

uni level cs classes?

[hidden willow]

na besides that

[wise forge]

take random uni level classes lol

[hidden willow]

bruh

my avg gon go down if it hard

[wise forge]

you can go to a local community college and take somec they’re pretty easy

[hidden willow]

im in 11th grade dude

[wise forge]

only take a few units

[hidden willow]

im talking bout 12 grade

[wise forge]

i’m in 10th and i’ve taken 4 classes at my local cc

[hidden willow]

you from canada?

[wise forge]

Nah

[hidden willow]

oh

[wise forge]

i’m from CA

[hidden willow]

that explains why i didnt know bout the cc

[wise forge]

Community College

[hidden willow]

yea

we dont do that here

[wise forge]

hm

[hidden willow]

atleast about what i know

so bio kinda suck tbh

i was thinking about taking aerospace

or air cadet outside of school

but idk

maybe ill stick with bio

[wise forge]

hm

[austere tulip]

Do you have AP

AICE

Or IB

If so

Take those

If not

Look on google

There’s a lot of online programs

College level

[normal ember]

yeah

it's popular in Florida

[normal ember]

I'm going to take precalculus over the summer and self-study some calculus; doing really well in algebra 2 right now so I decided that I would take calculus in sophomore year (and decided that I could handle BC)

especially since I want to go into Physics

and probably self study some physics since my school doesn't offer physics C

[cinder gorge]

Alright

[cinder gorge]

Oh

Does your school offer Physics 1

[normal ember]

yeah

probably going to take it junior year but I might switch physics and astronomy to balance the AP distribution

well

it wouldn't balance it actually

I could switch ap comp sci with digital info tech as well as astronomy and physics in order to maintain the current AP distribution

• learning physics 1 in sophomore year would be nice either way, but it's not necessary (I don't think)

[austere tulip]

Ok

I’m also taking algebra II this year

And doing wel

So

Are you doing precalc

At a cc

Or at ur high school

[cinder gorge]

I am going to learn precalc over Christmas break

Just want to see how difficult it is

[austere tulip]

Ok

[cinder gorge]

Are you going to learn precalc

Later this year

Or does your school provide that

[austere tulip]

Probably during the summer

Or during the little holidays in between

[cinder gorge]

Oh ok

[fickle rivet]

precalc = a2

[austere tulip]

Basically

[cinder gorge]

Here's what I'll do senior year:

• AP Bio
• AP Econ
• AP English
• AP CSA (maybe)
• AP Calc AB
• Precalc
• Gym
• Spanish 3

[hollow finch]

Thats a busy senior year Lol

[peak fiber]

Dang bro

[white dragon]

So I need to pick my IB subjects by December 9 and I'm conflicted between taking IB Psych and IB Econ.

I'm really interested in both subjects but I think I'm much more likely to take a business-related uni course. The thing is, that makes me question if I'll actually learn more taking psychology. I do think I'll enjoy writing an EE in psychology more than any other subjects though. (Taking both psych and econ is not an option in my school.)

I do like maths and less memorisation heavy courses (which is economics) but I think I could enjoy psychology classes much more and wouldn't mind memorising since it really interests me.

I really don't know, we can change our subjects only in the first ~3 months in grade 11. (I'm grade 10 now)

Here are my other subjects:

• English A (HL)
• German Ab Initio (SL)
• Physics (SL)
• Math AA (SL) (probably)
• Business (HL)

If anyone could help, it would be greatly appreciated 🥺

[vocal bolt]

self study it and take the AP exam for it

I'd say take it in your junior year so your calculus knowledge is still fresh from your sophomore year

cuz in uni you have to self study it either way

[vocal bolt]

psychology would probably help within the business area but Econ would appeal more to universities in my opinion

[white dragon]

oh I see, that's basically what I was thinking subconciously, haha

[stone plank]

Possible schedule for 10th grade
Spanish 1 (I didn’t take it 9th grade)
Weightlifting
Geometry
AP seminar (technically English class)
Regular world history
Biology 2

[undone grove]

I am currently a sophomore, and that looks good.

[stone plank]

Thanks

[cinder gorge]

how hard are AP exams?

[stone plank]

No clue

But AP physics is a very hard exam

I heard

[undone grove]

Depends on the class.

[cinder gorge]

Physics

[cinder gorge]

how hard is it on a scale of 1-10?

[stone plank]

My basketball teammate who’s in 12th grade took it

[cinder gorge]

how hard did he say it was?

[stone plank]

Pretty hard

But you should ask your counselor

Or upperclassmen who took it to see how it is

[cinder gorge]

my school only does IB

[stone plank]

o

[cinder gorge]

that's why I'm thinking whether to do IB or move schools and do AP

[stone plank]

See what’s best for you

[cinder gorge]

hopefully I'll figure that out soon

[frosty rock]

my course selection for senior year is:

• AP Chemistry
• AP English Language and Composition
• AP Calculus AB course (BC exam self study)
• AP Physics C: Mechanics (taking exam)
• AP Psychology
• Anatomy and Physiology
• Forensics

Thoughts?

[austere tulip]

I think IB is awesome

I consider it better than AP

U should be fine

[austere tulip]

It’s busy but I think u can handle it

However

Chem va physics C

[vocal bolt]

it honestly depends on the major

[cinder gorge]

how hard is IB?

[vocal bolt]

if he's going for example Aeropsace enegineering he'd need both

[vocal bolt]

College level

[austere tulip]

It’s not a university

It’s a high school

[vocal bolt]

yeah i mean what major he's going to

[austere tulip]

I guess

[vocal bolt]

going into*

[austere tulip]

I’m gonna spam my junior year with APs

But leave myself some slack senior year

[frosty rock]

yes do that

[vocal bolt]

yes

[cinder gorge]

in your opinion is IB worth it?

[frosty rock]

college apps are already enough pain

so balance it out

[vocal bolt]

depending which universities you want to go to

[austere tulip]

Yeah

Because it more colleg like than ap

[cinder gorge]

top 20 hopefully

[vocal bolt]

Yeah then take IB's

[cinder gorge]

it's harder than AP?

[vocal bolt]

You need to take the highest level courses your school offer

if you want top 20

[vocal bolt]

Similar

[cinder gorge]

if the school offers AP and IB which should I pick?

[vocal bolt]

Thats a very debatable topic

but in my opinion

i actually have no idea

[frosty rock]

honestly both are really good and if you can mix between them

[vocal bolt]

the stuff you take are different though

[frosty rock]

yeah

so it depends on major your going into

[cinder gorge]

you can mix between them?

[frosty rock]

my friend is doing it yes

[vocal bolt]

depends on what courses your school offers for each and what major your going into

[cinder gorge]

is it more difficult than just doing one?

[vocal bolt]

Yes 100%

but

you can handle it

I took 3 AP's Junior year
AP Chemistry
AP Bio
AP CSP

[frosty rock]

what year you in @cinder gorge

[vocal bolt]

I did good but you have to really put in work

[cinder gorge]

currently in Grade 8

[frosty rock]

ohhh okay good

[cinder gorge]

yeah I decided to start early

[frosty rock]

you have time to decide

listen

my biggest advice, balance out the APs and IBs

[vocal bolt]

Listen add us if you have any questions dont be afraid to DM

[frosty rock]

dont take all APs in one year

balance

[cinder gorge]

thanks I will

[frosty rock]

for sure

[vocal bolt]

Oh and never forget Extra Curriculars but never force them do stuff you enjoy

[cinder gorge]

so you think I should do a mix of both right?

[vocal bolt]

What major are you thinking of?

and what IB's and AP's do your school offer if you know?

[frosty rock]

thats on you. whatever your major is

[cinder gorge]

for extra curricular?

[vocal bolt]

no for course selection

[cinder gorge]

so my current school has IB only

[frosty rock]

okay if so then take that

IB is very similar to AP

[vocal bolt]

do you know what IB classes? like caclulus physics etc?

[cinder gorge]

I'm starting to research those, I know AP classes but not IB yet

[vocal bolt]

and your major what are you thinking of Computer science, Law etc?

[cinder gorge]

possibly Physics or Bio-medical engineering or Chemical Physics

[frosty rock]

im your guy on this one cuz I might major in biomed too

[vocal bolt]

100% you'll need IB Biology, IB Physics and Calculus

[cinder gorge]

what courses are you doing for biomed?

[vocal bolt]

those are core courses for STEM Majors

[cinder gorge]

I thought so, but I also think English would be important

[frosty rock]

taking these @cinder gorge

[frosty rock]

it is, it helps since its good for doing resaerch later on in your career since it helps you write effictivly

also it shows colleges your ready for rigrous work

[vocal bolt]

take as many IB courses you can throughout Highschool since it will show universities your challenging yourself but know your limits and dont overflow yourself

[cinder gorge]

I think I might do something similar to that if it's available in IB

[frosty rock]

but make sure to spread it out throughout highschool

dont be dumb as me to take all in 1 year

itll destroy you

[cinder gorge]

so for example I take Chem, Physics, and Bio first year

[frosty rock]

wait a sec brother lol

if you can handle it for sure

[vocal bolt]

grade 9 is way to early in my opinion

[frosty rock]

but I would say to spread it out more

[vocal bolt]

start grade 10 if you can

[cinder gorge]

when do you think I should start?

10 ok

[vocal bolt]

10 11 12 take IB courses but spread them out so your not crammed. So you can enjoy highschool

[frosty rock]

imagine it like this. 1-2 AP or IB 9th, 2-3 10th, then increase more in 11th and 12th

gradually increase

[cinder gorge]

oh ok like that

sure

[frosty rock]

yep

[cinder gorge]

yeah I also think I should have some extra curriculars

[frosty rock]

yes focus from now on that

the activties count only after 9th grade

[vocal bolt]

Yeah theres some ones you HAVE to take in my opinion

Community service
Athletics
Academics

[cinder gorge]

yeah I'm doing that I've entered STUCO, planning on joining the MUN next year

[frosty rock]

perfect

[cinder gorge]

do the Athletics have to be in school?

[frosty rock]

also dont forget to do more activities outside of school too

like hobbies

[vocal bolt]

no

[cinder gorge]

yeah currently I do no athletics in school but I do many afterschool

[vocal bolt]

I played volleyball and football (soccer) professionally outside of school and put them in my college application

[frosty rock]

okay good

anyway imma log off @cinder gorge but feel free to message me when you need

see ya

and goodluck man

[cinder gorge]

ok thaks have a nice day

[frosty rock]

you too

[vocal bolt]

You too

[cinder gorge]

thanks cya

[stone plank]

Your gonna have a lot of work, and homework

So try to balance it

I’m gonna take atleast 1 AP class 10th, 11th, 12th

[frosty rock]

I have found a system to manage it although it really killed me in the biginning

[stone plank]

o

[frosty rock]

its expected im taking 5 APs at once lol

but with trail and error ive gotten used to it

trial*

[austere tulip]

Hey guys

Is music theory worth it

even if you like music

I mean AP music theory

[mint thorn]

I mean it’s not super hard

Like if you don’t play piano it is

But if you play piano, its not that bad

But music theory is extremely useful

[austere tulip]

I know it's not hard

but what is it useful for

is it useful for stem

[mint thorn]

No

Like there’s no overlap whatsoever except for string theory

Cause its like “what interval is this”

[mint thorn]

And even that is like 5% overlap

[austere tulip]

ok

[chilly bough]

Is it worth taking AP Seminar and AP Research? I've had recommendations from upperclassmen to take it

[austere tulip]

Yeah

I consider it worth it

If you especially want to go into stem

It’s good

It’s like a mini PHd

And u get the cool ap capstone diploma

[chilly bough]

Cool! I want to go into aerospace engineering, and also try to get into a uc school 👍

[stone plank]

Ofc

I’m taking it 10th grade year

Technically English class

Taking AP seminar 10th

And then research 11th

[stone plank]

Taking seminar and research

Helps your writing skills

And helps you make a good college essay

If your applying for college

[cinder gorge]

How?

What do you do on the AP seminar test

[austere tulip]

Seminar helps your writing skills

Speaking skills

Presentation skills

Teamwork skills

On the test

U do two presentation projects

One individual

One team based

And then on the final exam

U write three essays

And research helps your research and writing skills

For research you end with a final research essay at the end of the year

[cinder gorge]

I would rather take AP lit or lang

Than AP seminar

It sounds hard

I do not like presentations

[stone plank]

I mean hey

I love writing

So why not

[cinder gorge]

Take AP lit

If you like writing

A lot of reading and writing

[austere tulip]

What happened to you

There was one point

Where you were telling people not to take ap lit

Also

[cinder gorge]

I changed

I love writing now

[austere tulip]

Seminar is easier

I love writing too

But I do not like literary analysis

[cinder gorge]

I like it

It is fun!

[austere tulip]

Anyways

I would recommend lit and lang to people who want to pursue humanities

But seminar and research for those who want to pursue stem

[cinder gorge]

Why is seminar good for stem

[austere tulip]

Seminar and research are good

Because they’re more research based

And independent study based

So you can work on a specific topic

[cinder gorge]

Calc and Physics should be for stem not seminar

[austere tulip]

That u want to look

No

But for English

Cuz many high schools require English all four years

So if you want to take an ap course to fulfill that requirement

I would recommend seminar and research for stem people

Because it’s like a mini PhD

[cinder gorge]

All you do there is study

[austere tulip]

No you don’t

It’s more like a study hall

Where you an choose to work

[cinder gorge]

Yeah and I don’t understand how that has to do with stem

[austere tulip]

Whenever you want

[cinder gorge]

Seminar and lit shouldn’t be good for stem

Calc and Physics should

[austere tulip]

It’s an independent self study option

I’m not denying calc and physics

I’m just saying

[cinder gorge]

If you want to get organized then do AP Seminar

[austere tulip]

Come on

[cinder gorge]

To clear some of the time for yourself

[austere tulip]

Use common sense

Like I said

Calc and physics are not English courses

[cinder gorge]

Ik

[austere tulip]

Many high schools count seminar and research as English courses

So that would be a good choice for stem

And on top of thst you get a diploma from ap

Seminar teaches you how to argue and use sources to argue

Research teaches you to use those skills

And the best part

You can choose your topic

That’s why it’s good for stem

However lit and lang

[cinder gorge]

Yeah but stem you don’t really need to argue cmon now

[austere tulip]

You do

To bring your point

In research in stem

You are making a claim

The scientific process

[cinder gorge]

So a engineer needs to argue?

Makes no sense

[austere tulip]

Not argue in that sense

But like srgue a point

Bring a point across

Like Galileo

Or Copernicus

Or Einstein

Galileo and Copernicus worked to prove the heliocentric theory

And u know Einstein

[cinder gorge]

Those they are scientists

[austere tulip]

Yeah

Guess what the S is in stem

🤯🤯

[nova kayak]

Ap capstone is more beneficial for stem

[austere tulip]

That’s exactly what I said

[cinder gorge]

Ik but you should be doing AP lit or lang if you want to become a scientist because it teaches you how to write down all your information effectively

[nova kayak]

Yup

[austere tulip]

No it doesn’t

Ap lit and lang don’t focus on that

First go learn about the course

Dude

Both of them are literary analysis courses

Lang is nonfiction

And lit is fiction

You only write about what they are saying

[cinder gorge]

It helps you analyze things

A very important skill

[austere tulip]

A scientist is not going to get benefit from analyzing why Mary had a little lamb

However

It will be better for them

To research

And bring their point across

[cinder gorge]

I mean it might necessarily focus on what they are doing but it does help people analyze things

[austere tulip]

Seminar and lang are very similar

It’s just seminar has more independent aspect

With your own topic

And ur own choices

[cinder gorge]

If you want to become a doctor you should do AP lit and lang although if you want to become a scientist or chemist I would say AP seminar or research

[austere tulip]

The humanities is where you analyze stuff

No

[cinder gorge]

I mean I get what you are saying now

It is better than lang or lit

For stem people

Although, if you want to become a Doctor or something like that do AP lit or lang

[austere tulip]

A historian might find more use through lang

Or an English teacher

Or lit

However

Doctors

I

No

What are doctors doing

How are they analyzing literary themes

How are they analyzing rhetoric

Simple

Humanities: lang/lit

Stem: capstone

In my opinion of course

[nova kayak]

Is it better to take seminar sophomore and research junior or seminar junior and research senior

[austere tulip]

Id say junior senior

Like what I’m doing is this

[cinder gorge]

No but it will help them write down their notes better and more efficiently

[austere tulip]

Freshman: English 9 H

[cinder gorge]

From the information their patients gave them

[austere tulip]

For us

[cinder gorge]

And fellow doctors

[austere tulip]

English 9 is literature and composition

Again

Lit and lang

Is not a writing class

They don’t teach you to write efficiently

In fact the more you write usually u get more points

Seminar and research are the writing classes

anyways

[cinder gorge]

I mean you do write

And they help you become a better writer

[austere tulip]

Yes

I’m biology u write

For free response

That doesn’t make you a better writer

The purpose of writing in lit and lang is to analyze and understand literary texts

[cinder gorge]

Yeah Ik and that will be helpful

For doctors

[austere tulip]

Of course

Because doctors

[cinder gorge]

Doctors are humanities

[austere tulip]

Are analyzing texts

No they aren’t

[cinder gorge]

Yes they are

[austere tulip]

Anyways

No

Humanities is art

English

Social studies

Doctors are biologists in a sense

And biology is science

That’s stem

Just because they deal with humans

That doesn’t make them humanities

[austere tulip]

Anyways

So I’m taking seminar and research junior and senior

And literature classes freshman and sophomore

[cinder gorge]

Health Science is no stem my guy

[austere tulip]

It literally has the word science in it

🤯

[cinder gorge]

Doesn’t mean it is stem I think

[austere tulip]

Yes it is

Biology

Chemistry

Human anatomy

[cinder gorge]

Never mind dude

I was wrong

[austere tulip]

But I won’t want to discourage you from taking lit or lang

If you think you like analyzing texts

It’s good

[stone plank]

I’m taking seminar 10th

And research junior

[austere tulip]

Then what senior year

[stone plank]

Maybe psychology

Or sum

[wide ferry]

what's the diff between ap lit and ap lang

[cinder gorge]

I mean drop lit

[austere tulip]

But those are not English courses

[cinder gorge]

It is useless unless you want to do writing

But

[stone plank]

I could take a normal English course

[austere tulip]

Ap lit

[stone plank]

In 12th

[austere tulip]

Is fiction

[cinder gorge]

AP lang is useful

[stone plank]

Can I?

[austere tulip]

And ap lang is non fiction

[austere tulip]

U could

[cinder gorge]

AP Lang is more useful

[austere tulip]

Again

Debatable

[cinder gorge]

I thought AP lit and lang basically the same

[cinder gorge]

It is more useful than AP lit

You agree with me on that

[austere tulip]

Ap lit is a course in rigorous literary analysis of fictional texts and poems

It’s looking at famous and literary works

Throughout time

Ap language

That is a course that analyzes rhetoric and other techniques that authors in non fiction use to get their points across

[cinder gorge]

Yeah that could be helpful for arguments

If you think about it

You analyze arguments and devise your own argument

[austere tulip]

I never said it wasn’t

But the only problem is

There’s no independent topic study

U can’t go into your topic in depth

U do whatever your teachers choose

[cinder gorge]

Also AP Lit could be useful if you want to go to a selective university

[austere tulip]

No

[cinder gorge]

It can show the college admissions team that you are challenging yourself

[stone plank]

That’s literally all ap classes

[austere tulip]

U can do that by taking an ap course

[stone plank]

That’s the point of ap classes 💀

[austere tulip]

They literally do not care about what the course is

If it’s ap

Ur challenging yourself

[cinder gorge]

Yeah but if you take really hard AP classes your school offers then it can help

[austere tulip]

Unless it’s in progresssion like physics C and 1&2 then there’s no advanced

[stone plank]

Ya physics is super hard

[austere tulip]

Because not all schools offer everything

That’s why they don’t discriminate

Based on what u took

[cinder gorge]

So if I take capstones vs lit they wouldn’t care

[austere tulip]

Yeah

Now if you’re talking about giving college credit

Then that’s different

Some colleges do

Some don’t

[cinder gorge]

How wouldn’t they care because AP lit is a harder class than the AP capstones

[austere tulip]

It’s AP

Literally all AP classes are meant to be tough

They’re not supposed to be compsrednwit each other

In terms of rigor

[cinder gorge]

Ik but some are tougher than others

[austere tulip]

Yeah

College classes are tougher than other college classes

Thst doesn’t make the easier classees not college classes

[cinder gorge]

Ik but if you take a AP class with a low pass rate and get a lot of credit that will be a lot more impressive than taking a AP class with a high pass rate and passing

[austere tulip]

Again

Colleges are not thst impressed

With the difdeeent type

Like they could care less if you took bio vs physics

They literally just skim through and see

Ap

Honors

Regular

Dual credit

Etc

They won’t be like

Timmy took ap psychology

How dare he

I wanted him to take physics C

[cinder gorge]

They evaluate the classes that are offered and you took

To see if you challenged yourself

[austere tulip]

They don’t have time to scroll through every high school page

[cinder gorge]

Ik but they can see the classes that are offered and what you took

[austere tulip]

No they can’t

On your transcript

They see

Your courses

Ur grades

[cinder gorge]

Yes they do

[austere tulip]

Ur gpa

They will see your ap honors

And ur course names

[cinder gorge]

I mean look it up for yourself if you do not believe me

[austere tulip]

But my original point

Why would they care

What ap you took

They just care u took an ap

Instead of honors

Or honors instead of regular

Based on the college

[cinder gorge]

I mean if you took a harder AP it is far more impressive than taking a easier AP

[austere tulip]

Test scores don’t judge thst

I meant exam statistics

Because

Ap physics C is the hardest

However

It doesn’t have the lowest pass rate

However

Apes is really easy

However it has the second lowest pass rate

That tells you

Thst pass rates don’t matter

So they can’t judge based on that

Also

What if you wanted to go into biology

Why would you take chemistry?

Even though it’s harder

[cinder gorge]

I know but AP lit has been shown to be one of the hardest AP’s available

[austere tulip]

That’s subjective

Like remember parkerkuo

Or someone

Their school has people with 99s

All people have 99s in ap physics

[cinder gorge]

Yes

[austere tulip]

That’s why they can’t judge

Because different high schools have different grading policies and stuff

[cinder gorge]

So you are saying if I take the easiest AP classes colleges won’t care

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[cinder gorge]

Idk about that

[austere tulip]

They won’t care

In your applications

They won’t reject you for not taking harder ap classes

However

If you’re admitted

They might not give college credit for it

They literally just care thst u took ap

[cinder gorge]

I strongly disagree because colleges say they care about the course rigor

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[austere tulip]

Course rigor

Meaning

Ap

Honors

Regular

Do you not understand

That even the easiest ap courses

Are AP

[cinder gorge]

Course rigor means taking the hardest classes offered

[austere tulip]

Yeah

[cinder gorge]

Even if you get a slightly lower grade

[austere tulip]

So

Ap

Is the hardest

Because

All the ap courses are considered equal

Other than physics C and physics 1

Because it matters on your major

AB and Bc

That too

Anyways

Yeah

It matters on your major

Just because u want to go into geography and you take human geo

That doesn’t mean u didn’t want course rigor

[cinder gorge]

What I am saying is that if a college sees you take AP lit over AP capstones and regular English it will look more impressive

[austere tulip]

No it won’t

Ap lit

And ap capstone

Are not comparable based on course rigor

Because what if ur major doesn’t have anything to do with English

What if you will have nothing in your life to do with

Analyzing literary texts

[cinder gorge]

I mean still take it because it shows the college you can handle that

[austere tulip]

No

Colleges won’t be looking at that u took lit

They’ll be looking at that u took AP

[cinder gorge]

It doesn’t matter if you don’t like it or not you have to do things you don’t like

[austere tulip]

That’s not always true

[cinder gorge]

If you want to get into a good college you have to do many things you don’t like

[austere tulip]

In course selection

There is a choice

[austere tulip]

If you find yourself doing many things you don’t like for a college then it isn’t a good fit for you

Now if it’s a few things that’s fine

[cinder gorge]

What I mean by that is if you don’t like English and there is honors English and not many classes that have honors take honor English

[austere tulip]

Yeah

Ok

So seminar and research are English

At most high schools

So here you do have a choice

U are talking about a scenario where there is not choice

[cinder gorge]

You have a choice to take a harder AP

Why not take it

[austere tulip]

I was talking about the English one

[austere tulip]

Who said lit is harder

[cinder gorge]

It is harder than the AP seminars and research

When you compare writing and reading

[austere tulip]

They are both hard in their own disclipiens

It’s like comparing apples and bananans

Bananas

They both have their own benefits

And are too different to be compared

[cinder gorge]

AP seminar has a 80% pass rate compared to AP lits 60%

[austere tulip]

Guess what

Ap physics c has a 70% pass rate

[cinder gorge]

It is far more difficult to get A in AP lit than A in AP seminar

[austere tulip]

And physics 1 has 50

But physics C is literally harder than physics 1

So stop using pass rates

That is inaccurate

[cinder gorge]

I know but logically AP lit is harder than AP seminar

[austere tulip]

And again

[cinder gorge]

It is common sense

[austere tulip]

Getting an A

Is different

In high schools

Bring you back to that Parker kuo example

I can tell you

[cinder gorge]

Ok

[austere tulip]

In my high school

Not all people have 99s in ap physics

And u can’t compare lit and seminar

U have to compare lit and research

And again

U can’t compare two things that have completely different purposes

[cinder gorge]

Honestly as long as you have a 93% or above you are fine colleges don’t care that much about grades

[austere tulip]

I’m talking about the Parker kuo example

[cinder gorge]

If you have a 99% and 93% they both show up on transcripts as A

[austere tulip]

Stop changing the topic

I’m talking about how

Getting As in different high schools

Is different

Courses can be harder at others

[cinder gorge]

I mean tell me if you told a random group of people which one would they think is harder

[austere tulip]

That’s subjective

And once again

To my original point

[cinder gorge]

I know that but most of it depends on how well the student is academically

[austere tulip]

Even if one is harder than the other

They are still AP

And have different purposes

[cinder gorge]

Take a few hard AP’s is better than taking a bunch of easy APs

I want you to know that

[austere tulip]

Nope

U don’t decide what harder and what’s not

And it matters on what you want in life

Ap economics is so easy

But if you want a career in exonomics

Then take it

[cinder gorge]

Harder APs are APs that require a lot of work and study time

[austere tulip]

U don’t decide that

Aps are all good