#exhude confidence and sommersault

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polar igloo
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Hi! I was wondering: is your Exhude's effect still active if you bounce it back to the hand with Electromagnetic Somersault?

icy wasp
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i assume you mean Electromagnetic Somersault? 😅

polar igloo
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I do yeah

dim mapleBOT
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cobalt widget
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Good question. Im not sure if LKI would remember the ability being there. But assuming it works similar to go again it would be yes it is still active.

near wyvern
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We had this situation yesterday, and I thought it's not active because LKI is used when an effect needs that information.

The player beeing able to play or activate someting is not an effect. 🤷‍♂️

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But my actual thought and reasoning was CR 5.4.7a
A while-static ability is not functional when its source is not public. And then even if the ability and status would be in LKI it is not used because...

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I ping @upper spade because he was also involved and interested in the solution.

polar igloo
cobalt widget
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1.2.5 defines LKI as an immutable snapshot of the object before it moved.

near wyvern
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I think like this: If I want to play a card, I don't have to ask (everytime) if Exude allows for it. So there is no rule that requires information from it, when it is not present. No LKI used.

leaden pendant
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Exude Confidence's effect is not active because it is a static ability tied to the card. Because the Exude Confidence card is removed from the combat chain, the static ability no longer produces the continuous effect, and therefore it does not prevent the opponent from playing/activating instants and defense reactions.

polar igloo
cobalt widget
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Hmm I had expected then LKI to remember the ability was there. Maybe we need to consider adding some more info about this to the LKI section

dim mapleBOT
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Note: Beta feature using best available card text. Report errors to JudgeHub discord, #bug-reports channel.

Exude Confidence

While Exude Confidence isn't defended by a card with equal or greater {p}, the defending hero can't play or activate instants or defense reactions this combat chain.

Instant - {r}{r}{r}: Exude Confidence gains +2{p}. Activate this ability only while Exude Confidence is attacking.

Types

Generic Action - Attack

Cost

0

Attack

4

Defense

2

wraith ravine
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Man, this whole conversation would've made so much sense if I had remembered that first effect, I was confused bc I thought you were talking about the buff effect and wondering why people would be interested in using that in the resolution step after it was bounced by Somersault

manic crane
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Related question: if a card defending exude is bounced back, is LKI used here to check if they can play instants?