#Prismatic Leyline + Uzuri

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eternal crown
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Prismatic Leyline states, as printed and in true text:
Your next red attack this turn gets +1{p}, your next yellow gets +2{p}, and your next blue gets +3{p}.

Does this require the attacks to be played, or would something like Uzuri swapping in a blue work for +3?
I imagine the former but don’t have the exact on hand to be certain.

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Perhaps “played” is the wrong word, but I can’t edit the OP on mobile.

jaunty stag
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Prismatic Leyline is an Action, and not an Instant, so I'd first be wondering how you managed to... as Uzuri... 'sneak' that in before her Attack Reaction.

eternal crown
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Leyline, play a red, swap in a blue would be the line; the red would get +1 but is the blue a “next blue attack” now?

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The color restriction is what makes it have any question, versus something like a might token (“next attack” generically, once)

jaunty stag
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I see what you mean... now I'm curious too.

fluid bobcat
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Would this rule apply to it?

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I would say this means it works the way you are wanting. Potentially. Maybe.

eternal crown
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In this case the way Uzuri works isn’t changing the properties of the attack but placing a new card as already attacking, with its own properties, so I don’t think that (first) text is relevant?
Granting +n{p} doesn’t carry over to a swapped card in itself.

I didn’t catch that the buffs are continuous effects, so it’s definitely feeling possible but I’m not brave enough to be certain.
Most similar effects she has access to are “next attack action card you play” which doesn’t have any such room for error.

fluid bobcat
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Ah that makes sense

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That was the only example in the rules I was seeing where “next played” wasn’t used. I was so focused on that I didn’t think about the card being placed isn’t a property change really

hybrid marlin
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So are we certain that the blue attack Uzuri swapped in gets the buff from leyline as it was considered a 【next blue attack】?

rugged cipher
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Leyline creates 3 layer-continuous effects the way I see it - if you play a red stealth that uses up the first, if you then swap it into a blue attack, that should use up the third one as the swapped in card is still an attack and Leyline doesn't specify "the next card you play" or "the next time you attack with" or anything like that

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But there could be some kind of interaction I'm missing

pliant siren
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I want to check this against the CR but I'm at work atm. I'll check when I get home.

eternal crown
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There’s no strict definition of “next attack” being the ‘event’ definition (declaring an attack), or just an attack existing at all (working with swap) as far as I can tell.
I saw an assumption made that it doesn’t say “played” to account for non card attacks (like auras, not typical weapons) being colored attacks, so you could argue it’s looking for the event of declaration even if not stated explicitly.
You could also argue, though, that since effects are applied dynamically and as soon as applicable it would work.

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lavish sleet
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Something has an attack object identity when it is attacking on the combat chain. Which would fulfill the condition for Leyline.

jaunty stag
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As pointed out by @minor narwhal

minor narwhal
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overall (unless something changes in the CR) I would rule this as the original buff will no (swapping from a blue would remove the blue buff and it will not reapply later) and swapping into a card will apply the new buff if it is valid (swapping into a red and having played no previous reds will get +1)

eternal crown
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Yeah, no doubts that the originally played card burns its color buff and that doesn’t come back

fluid bobcat
eternal crown
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If that’s how it works, then yes, it would have seen two colors and only yellow would remain

fluid bobcat
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Sweet I got a call right!

eternal crown
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copper cove
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@flint glacier I am too stupid to figure all this written stuff out, can you help me? I think if you play Prismatic Leyline into Red Isolate and use Uzuri's ability to swap in Surgical Extraction, the Surgical Extraction should be buffed. But you are the most reliable Judge I know so...maybe you can clarify it for me (whether it works as I think it does or why it doesn't work). Sorry for pinging you but with great knowledge come a lot of knowledge seekers or something like that

flint glacier
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🤷‍♂️ idk we're sort of waiting for clarification from LSS

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Maybe it swaps from one buff to the other, maybe it doesn't

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I don't necessarily have something I feel I can't confidently point to at this time to say "it should work like this"

copper cove
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If you don't know, only Joshua himself knows

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And thank you 🤝🏼

flint glacier
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Unless it's only James who knows, we'll find out. This is something we've brought up in the rules team chat to make sure it's looked at

eternal crown
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Awesome; I’d love to hear an official answer (as much as I appreciate all the input so far)

polar sonnet
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I’m curious on this as well. Thank you for posting and all commenting. My initial interpretation is the same as the original post of the new attack being the “next attack” and gets the new buff but there isn’t much precedence to this effect.

somber current
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Did this ever get an answer from LSS?

cyan dock
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Bump

marble igloo
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This might take a little to explain, bare with me
Short answer: No, the attack replacing the stealth card using Uzuri's ability will not receive any benefits from Prismatic Leyline.

Let me explain further:

  1. Uzuri's ability does not treat the new card as being "played", it is the same reason why playing Sloggism (red), then a Isolate (red), then using Uzuri's ability to replace Isolate with Brutal Assault (red), will not result in Brutal Assault with 12pow.
  2. The chain link has already "become attack" Uzuri's ability simply changes the defining characteristics of the active chain link, by replacing one defining card (Stealth card) with a new defining card (2 cost or less Attack action card), This means the new card doesn't reinitiate the attack step and for lack of a better phrase doesn't "become attacking" (in this case the hero is already attacking, just redefining the properties of said Chain Link).
  3. Despite Prismatic Leyline's text, you are still required to have had something "become attacking" to receive this buff, the wording is in place to allow for attacks generated from sources that aren't Attack Action Cards to also benefit, ie: Weapon attacks generated by Aura weapons with pitch values or Ally permanents with a pitch value (this excludes currently all printed ally cards that can generate attacks but doesn't exclude future ones that might qualify)

All this to say, that it is my understanding that No, this interaction doesn't work as explained, it Prismatic Leyline would still be waiting for you to make a "Blue" and "Yellow" attack to receive the +npow respectively.

but please, don't take this as gospel, I am one person with limited time to dive into this and if you believe I'm wrong, please explain why

(Sources Outsiders release notes, CR 6.2 and Rules Reprise #10, all linked below, ran out of space)