Flick Knives and Mask of Momentum Interaction

[dense escarp]

I attempted to search for this and found nothing which surprised me - let me know if I missed something.

Can you folks clarify if the hit generated from Flick Knives in a third chain link after two hits would trigger mask of momentum if the attack action card that opened the link in the first place is blocked?

So here's an example chain for Katsu:
Kodachi 1 Hit > Kodachi 2 Hit > Attack Action that is currently blocked, in reactions flick knife for a hit but otherwise leave the attack action blocked out.

Would that dagger flick trigger mask of momentum when the chain closes or no?

[spice aspen]

Mask is dependent on an attack action card being the thing that's hitting. In this case it's a weapon creating the hit. Unless the attack action hits (doing at least 1 damage in the damage calculation step) then you're not satisfying the when clause

(subject to release notes/CR updates changing that)

[dense escarp]

Perfect thank you very much!

[prime hatch]

Another interaction.

if kodachi 1 hits, kodachi 2 is blocked, attack action 3 will hit, in reactions you activate flick knives to make kodachi 2 hit, does the hit from attack action 3 draw you a card.

[dense escarp]

Was just about to ask that! ^ 😄

[prime hatch]

I believe it does draw you a card bc it has hit.

You technically missed a chain link hit. So I'm unsure

[spice aspen]

This is one where I'm going to say "we're going to have to wait for the CR update / Release Notes" because we don't know how hits outside of the calculate damage step will be handled.

[royal wagon]

Don’t you need a dagger some place too? So two Karachi won’t work

[prime hatch]

Unless I'm mistaken, kodachi is a dagger.

[iron mantle]

I believe it wouldn't trigger Mask of Momentum, since it cares for 3 chain link to hit in a row, so unless the Flick Knives used on the second Kodachi makes that the second chain link has hit, the third attack hitting wouldn't let you draw a card

[prime hatch]

I believe that was the exact question I was asking. My apologies if it was unclear.

[royal wagon]

Sure enough. It’s a dagger.

[iron mantle]

Ok, just wanted to make sure, then i can't say more than "we'll know when the CR get updated"

[lethal marsh]

Heres a weird interaction though. (And I know we need to wait for actual rulings)

Hit with Kodachi 1, Attack with random attack (Lets say Surging)
Can I activate flick knives in response to Surging to get my 2nd hit in, effectively making my Surging my 3rd hit and subsequently triggering mask? Or would it not count as a chain link, meaning that Surging would still only be the 2nd Chain Link to hit.

[brisk frost]

In this case when surging hits it's still the second chain link, that chain link has just hit twice. Because MoM specifically cares about ths number of chain links that have hit, not the number of hits period, it should not draw

[pliant fulcrum]

Currently does not count as a chain link, but will wait for clarification from release notes. (Patrick's message didn't load before I posted)

[opaque pawn]

Has this been officially cleared up anywhere? Do we know for certain now that if an attack action card is blocked after two links have hit, and then flick knives is used to throw a dagger that does hit, that Mask does not trigger?

[brisk frost]

Yes, mask of momentum triggers only on attack action cards hitting, flick knives' ability is not an attack action card

[opaque pawn]

Thank you!

[prime hatch]

About this. Do we have a clue yet?
Kodachi 1 -> hit
Kodachi 2-> blocked
Attack action(chain link 3)->no blocks-> react, flick knives, kodachi in chain link 2 hits-> opponent does not have a defense reaction-> attack action hits. 3rd in a row to hit so you draw a card right?

[brisk frost]

No, it's not the third in a row. The 2nd link was blocked, you hit twice on link 3

[prime hatch]

Oooh I see.

Ty for clearing that up. Didn't think of that option.

[sick hawk]

Hey sorry to dredge up this really old thread but thought it was better than starting a new one, and I also wanted to append this here because I don’t want people to read this thread and get the (I believe incorrect) impression that there’s no mask of momentum flick knives synergy

What about the following scenario:

Kodachi 1 hits
Kodachi 2 is blocked, flick knives kodachi 1 to deal 1 here (the chain link hits, but the attack doesn’t)
Attack action card (attack 3) is unblocked and hits.

Based on the requirements here, and this article https://fabtcg.com/articles/rules-reprise-11-outsiders-prevention-among-other-things/ I believe:
-3 chain links in a row have hit
(“If the dagger has hit this way, the active chain link is considered to have hit”)
-The third chain link hitting is an attack action card

So I believe mask triggers. Am I missing anything?

[solemn mulch]

No that's how it works

[prime hatch]

(Posted the cards so I can read everything on the same tab)