#Custom keyboards

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jolly coral
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Tolerances are so tight now for switches (at least the good ones)

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The switches will keep self lubricating

spiral portal
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ah so if they come pre-lubed then don't need to

jolly coral
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I still have some GPL105 on hand if any particular switch is bothering me

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Only had to do it for a couple of really low end switches

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Like the Outemu stuff

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Even then

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That's some seriously pickiness

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The problem with lower end switches is consistency

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Some switches come well lubed from the factory

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And some will show up bone dry and scratchy

spiral portal
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nice after doing a lot of research i decided that my style of typing is more geared for linear switches so i think i will be replacing the Keeb-TKL switches with some Sakura switches or the pheonix switches from gamakay

jolly coral
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You want something around the 2.0mm mark

spiral portal
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i figure $0.65+ a switch your probably getting some good switches

jolly coral
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It's practically impossible to type on linear switches with a hair trigger (less than 1.0mm before operating)

jolly coral
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If you like linear and willing to go $0.65 a piece, take a hard look at Gateron Weightlessness switches

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It's technically a tactile switch, but it actuates so quick, I could swear it was a linear

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But there's definitely still a tactile bump

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3.4mm short overall travel with a classic 2.0mm pre-travel

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Dual stage spring to achieve that "weightless" pre-travel

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And a fairly strong upstroke

spiral portal
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yeah i was looking at 1.8-2.0mm with 3.2-3.4mm overall

jolly coral
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Either get them directly from Gateron or Amazon

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Nevermind, found the Amazon listing: https://a.co/d/fFEUd1F

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Google found it momo_nyeheh

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I have them on my default gaming keyboard: #1071070910989209661 message

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And another GMMK3 build with these switches: #1071070910989209661 message

spiral portal
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how many do i need for the Keeb it says 93 keys but i think that includes the media and roller bar?

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i think i counted 87 so figured i would get 90

jolly coral
spiral portal
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cool

jolly coral
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but I think the official Gateron package is x35

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so unless you order from AliExpress, you're not going to be able to order x90

spiral portal
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it is you have to get 105

jolly coral
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nevermind, even AliExpress sells them by the x35 package only

jolly coral
spiral portal
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oh

jolly coral
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depending on your Amazon status (have Prime), you might want to order from Amazon for the convenience

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even though there may be a couple dollar difference

spiral portal
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yeah i think i might just go with the GK GAMAKAY Pegasus Silent Tactile

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i will see if i can find them ether a 90pack or buy 9 10pack

jolly coral
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but Pegasus comes in x35 packs only too

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there's a winter sale right now on AE

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dang, I almost want to grab some Griffin since the US stock is sold out

spiral portal
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is the only differance in the 2 the color?

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$28 for 105

jolly coral
spiral portal
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yeah

jolly coral
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Griffin:

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Pegasus:

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completely different tactile bump

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Griffin has a sharp bump at about 1.0mm

spiral portal
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ah

jolly coral
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Pegasus has a smooth bump that starts immediately

spiral portal
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well i ordered the Pegasus

jolly coral
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I'm still about 10 keyboards away from the K1 build

spiral portal
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now to figure out keycaps and what i want to do i think i talked myself out of doing Mori

jolly coral
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but I'll eventually get there

jolly coral
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don't use side-print keycaps

spiral portal
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yeah

gray wave
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Or do like me and treat them like they have no letter print

jolly coral
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since he mentioned at some point about typing in both languages

gray wave
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With that in mind my idea is really not what you are looking for

jolly coral
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obviously these are not the actual GMK versions, but clones are always fun in my book

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the Keeb TKL looks best with these darker keycaps, at least in the stock form

winged patrol
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Are those got rusted?

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Or is it like that?

jolly coral
winged patrol
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Oh

jolly coral
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I've pulled like a few thousand swtiches with that puller

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Not to worry though:

winged patrol
jolly coral
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they keep falling out of keycap and keyboard boxes

winged patrol
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Oh true

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Those comes with keycaps

jolly coral
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there are probably a dozen more in keyboard boxes

winged patrol
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Damn

jolly coral
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anyways

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one last keyboard before calling it a night and getting to #gaming

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after gifting away a blue Phantom 81 to my friend (#1071070910989209661 message), I decided to order one for myself:

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I found a refurbished unit for $100 on Amazon

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and it just happened to be the gold color that I've wanted:

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crazy good looking even in the stock form:

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as per usual, I struggled with typing on linear switches

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I decided to give another set of budget friendly clear tactile switches a try, the Leobog Ice Soul tactile switches:

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pretty nice looking switches, but a bit on the light side with 30gf actuation force

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some pictures of the Ice Soul switches on the Phantom 81:

jolly coral
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as for the keycaps, I went with some XVX Black Topo to match with the White Topo keycaps on the ID87 Crystal build (#1071070910989209661 message):

jolly coral
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top shine-through will work perfectly with the north facing LEDs

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Here's the KiiBoom Phantom 81 Gold, unlit:

spiral portal
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nice i just saw those caps

jolly coral
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KiiBoom Phantom 81 Gold, lit + ambient lighting:

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KiiBoom Phantom 81 Gold, lit + no ambient lighting:

spiral portal
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These are my handmade keycaps that will go well with that

jolly coral
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ah, Asian themed

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that should work well

spiral portal
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yep

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those there cost as much as the whole set a caps

jolly coral
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anyways, the Phantom 81 felt so much better than the X75 (#1071070910989209661 message) that I had built right before

spiral portal
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I think they were $20 a piece

jolly coral
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and for $40 more, it's a no-brainer to purchase the Phantom 81 over the X75

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the only regret I had about the build are the Ice Soul switches

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they're really not made well and had a lot of stem wobble when pressed

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aside from being loud, the LTC Jerrzi switches are definitely better than the Leobog Ice Soul

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I didn't really mind the lightness of the Ice Soul, but that wobble really annoyed me

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since I won't be using this keyboard very much, I don't plan to swap out out the switches for now

spiral portal
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i am going to go out on a limb and say i probably should stay away from the Redragon K686 PRO SE due to how cheap they are

jolly coral
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but the build quality of the Phantom 81 is how an acrylic board should be

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fully taking advantage of the clear case with case LEDs

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and using much much thicker acrylic than the X75

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even the sound profile is deeper and better despite being a plastic case

jolly coral
spiral portal
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cool i will keep watch then for a backup

jolly coral
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if you're looking for a 95% keyboard, I've just built 4 Galaxy100s

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they're that good

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and they're literaly at the same price as your Redragon K686

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and it comes in 4 colors

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Red, Green, Black, and White

winged patrol
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Other then that its looks cool

jolly coral
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only major difference is that the Epomaker version has a knob

jolly coral
winged patrol
jolly coral
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didn't quite work

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too much gold

winged patrol
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Not bad tbh, just spacebar

jolly coral
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anyways, 3 out of the 4 VTER Galaxy100 that will eventually get posted:

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and I'm building the last (white) one tonight with some ceramic keycaps

jolly coral
jolly coral
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these Galaxy100 are full aluminum cases

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and definitely one of the more deeper/thocky sounding keyboards on the market

jolly coral
winged patrol
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'Galaxy' name match with looks

jolly coral
winged patrol
jolly coral
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anyways, really need to run to chore

winged patrol
jolly coral
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need to go brush my pets

winged patrol
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I dont think they needs that

jolly coral
winged patrol
jolly coral
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anyways, this was the dragon that I had cut for the Galaxy80:

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need to cut 2 more for the Black and White Galaxy100

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I'll eventually get there

winged patrol
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Nice

winged patrol
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Why

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Like its back side of keyboard

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No one gonna see it

jolly coral
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just for fun

gray wave
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People don't have to see it

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It's personalized cool stuff

winged patrol
jolly coral
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people pay a lot for crazy case designs

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like those crazy external weights

winged patrol
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True

jolly coral
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made from various metal with different finishes

spiral portal
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Well everything for my build is ordered now keyboard should be here on Monday, key caps Sunday, and the switches should be around the 17th

jolly coral
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awesome

spiral portal
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Yeah might take longer for the switches I tend to have a hard time when it comes to imports and customs taking forever

jolly coral
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good thing about playing Love Nikki: tons of artsy people in the guild

livid mason
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Nice nice

jolly coral
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anyways, the build for tonight:

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the baby blue mix doesn't look quite right

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I really need Cerakeys to make another batch of the White Crazed

winged patrol
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Winter theme keyboard

jolly coral
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I ended up ordering the matching set instead

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Good thing I recently won a giveaway from Cerakey:

winged patrol
winged patrol
spiral portal
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I saw you painted the plate of the keeb in one of your videos. what type of paint did you use? @jolly coral

jolly coral
spiral portal
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Ah you got that type of paint there that is cool since it was color changing

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So spray paint or automotive paint since I know rust-oleum does both

jolly coral
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I'll eventually get around to posting this one momo_nyeheh

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I spray painted a case

spiral portal
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Ah nice that is textured paint

jolly coral
spiral portal
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OK cool I watched several of your videos and was like that is cool

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My keyboard will be here tomorrow and keycaps will be here today so I will use it with factory switches for now until the come next week so the board will go under surgery probably next weekend

jolly coral
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The base layer

spiral portal
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Nice

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I have seen that paint before homedepot has a larger selection the my local walmart

jolly coral
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And the color shift top coat was called "Purple Sunrise"

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I didn't get a picture of the can as I was spraying in the dark

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Not going to pay shipping for spray paint

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Literally double the cost from physical stores because of shipping

jolly coral
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anyways, I've done a few Keeb now, here's the Circuit Keeb (#1071070910989209661 message), done in gold:

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Cherrylicious Keeb (#1071070910989209661 message) was done in "Champagne Pink":

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Silver Wolf Keeb (#1071070910989209661 message) was done with Blue Galaxy:

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Lastly, the March 7th Keeb (#1071070910989209661 message) was done with Blue Galaxy also, but with a light purple base:

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@spiral portal, hope that gives you some range of ideas

gray wave
spiral portal
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@jolly coral Thanks it does

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looks like i might not have to wait as long for my switches they are leaving China today i think since it is at the airport ready to come to customs and from there the USPS is pretty quick since they will land in my state

winged patrol
jolly coral
winged patrol
jolly coral
winged patrol
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Oh

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Ic

spiral portal
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man i did not realize that the Keeb was that heavy

jolly coral
spiral portal
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Yeah I got the board just have not made it to the community mailboxes to get the keycaps

spiral portal
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wow the stock switches are not too bad but still take a little more pressure then i like so it is slowing me down typing

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i bet the pheonix switches will be a bit better

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so question say i was buying switches and key caps already what bare bones board is the best to use for that i noticed on amazon and a few other sites that there are some boards that come without them and you add them yourself

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glad you talked me into those pheonix switches i really don't like how clacky the factory KEEB switches are

jolly coral
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Both Pegasus and Phoenix are 45gf actuation and 60gf bottom out

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If you're looking for light tactile switches, I would have to change my recommendation

spiral portal
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hmm maybe it is just how their key caps are since the head is small

jolly coral
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You really need to look into the Gateron Weightlessness or WS Light Tactile

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Amazon has the WS Light Tactile too: https://a.co/d/0cEdowS

spiral portal
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i will probably get use to them but i will definitely need fat finger caps it seems if i hit it square they are fine so it might just be the cap top size that is my issue since i am having to watch my self and not hit the lower edge

jolly coral
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Anyways, as for barebone keyboards, I can definitely give you some recommendations

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As I have built a few boards now momo_nyeheh

spiral portal
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yeah i will go get them tomorrow but i will use it as is until i get the Pheonix switches that way i can do it all together at one time

jolly coral
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Always start by figuring out the layout

jolly coral
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Because Phoenix is linear

spiral portal
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i keep saying Pheonix but I got the Pegasus my bad i was set on the pheonix at first is why

jolly coral
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Okay

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It's a good place to start

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Barebone

spiral portal
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yeah they are the blue ones

jolly coral
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Seems like you want another keyboard

spiral portal
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i want to make a backup board or one i can travel with

jolly coral
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Here are your most common sizes:

spiral portal
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i figured it would be cheaper to go barebones, custom switches and kaps it would be cheaper then buying a pre-built board and storing the factory caps

jolly coral
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But let's start by figuring out layout

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#⌨-keeb-tkl is the classic 80% TKL layout

spiral portal
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80% is perfect since i would like having the full 9 keys for print screen - page down

jolly coral
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Okay, next, budget

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How much are you looking to spend?

spiral portal
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i would say probably no more then $150 without the caps and switches but prefer around or just under $100

spiral portal
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i will pay good money usually for good gear

spiral portal
jolly coral
spiral portal
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it can be ether honestly

jolly coral
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The only sub-$200 keyboard with spring mounts

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If you want to save with shipping, order from a US vendor (Divinikey or Mechanical Keyboards)

spiral portal
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ok

jolly coral
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Doesn't sound like you're super price sensitive

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But just don't want to overspend

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There are quite a few colors to choose from

spiral portal
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nope i work IT for a living so Quality = Price but i never got into making my own keyboards until now

jolly coral
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And it's truly one of the best premium boards on the market right now

spiral portal
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would the QK80 MK2 be another option if i wanted to spend a bit more

jolly coral
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If you like that LCD screen

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You lose some keys for that novelty item

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I personally find it unnecessary

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I prefer having the extra keys

spiral portal
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yeah I hardly used the one on my Apex Pro

jolly coral
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Well, do realize that QK80 is a gasket mount and not leaf spring

spiral portal
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i was only thinking cause it was wireless unless i missed that on the Evo80

jolly coral
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But with the QK80, you get the RGB option as well as more plate choices

spiral portal
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and honestly i could care less if it was not

jolly coral
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Tri-mode

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You don't get a choice

spiral portal
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lol I am blind

jolly coral
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But yeah, leaf springs some next level comfort stuff

spiral portal
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if i did not need a wireless one is there an option with leaf springs

spiral portal
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ok then i will take a look

jolly coral
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The next closest one with leaf springs are the BD75 from Angry Miao

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But it's a 75%

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And over twice as expensive as the Evo80

spiral portal
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yeah at $350 original price

jolly coral
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But you get some real carbon fiber and other exotic materials momo_nyeheh

spiral portal
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yeah and a builtin wrist rest

jolly coral
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My BD75 build: #1071070910989209661 message

spiral portal
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if i was desperate i could just move the print screen-page Down keys to my stream deck

jolly coral
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I have mine programmed into the second layer

spiral portal
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does not always work in games

jolly coral
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But yeah, let's not mess with 75%

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Evo80

spiral portal
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yeah that is where the streamdeck comes in handy i even have a custom 3d printed mount for my deck in my cockpit setup

jolly coral
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Gateway

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Into the hobby momo_nyeheh

spiral portal
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so i take it your daily board is an Evo80 then

jolly coral
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I've used my Q3 as my daily for the longest time

spiral portal
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oh

jolly coral
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#1071070910989209661 message

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The Evo80 literally came out in September 2024

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I was waiting for the reviews

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I have 3 ordered now momo_nyeheh

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My actual daily driver right now is a 96%

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I'll eventually get around to posting this one

spiral portal
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you like the south facing LEDs it seems

jolly coral
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But it's a budget board called AULA F99 Pro: https://a.co/d/dXe5dey

jolly coral
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Most of the 96% has the 1800 layout instead and don't have any of the navigation keys

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I need some keys between the numpad and alphas

spiral portal
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ah i downsized from a full size to 80% so i can gain a bit of desk space

jolly coral
spiral portal
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lol

jolly coral
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So I have the F99 remapped to some weird keys

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The numpad doesn't actually type numbers momo_nyeheh

spiral portal
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sounds a lot like modded skyrim now a days with all the custom attack animations and stuff

jolly coral
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So the beauty of having more keys

spiral portal
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use that num pad for those macros

jolly coral
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With #1071070910989209661, you have to think a little bit differently

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Nearly all have key remapping and macro

spiral portal
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because my laptop has the 10 key on it i can get away from it on my main real keyboard of not having it

jolly coral
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A huge part of going custom is the ability to reprogram your keyboard

spiral portal
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yeah i noticed that as well on the KEEB they allow you to macro almost the whole board iof you want

jolly coral
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Anyways

jolly coral
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Anyways, I would order an Evo80

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Choose your favorite color

spiral portal
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you can see what i mean by the sides of the caps i keep hitting the i and o together

jolly coral
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And when choosing the plate option:

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PP is softer, and will give you more of a "thock" sound

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FR4 is harder, so will give you more of a "click" sound

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But both are plastic plates, so won't be too harsh of click

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If you did go metal plate, you can get some interesting sounds

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And a very hard typing experience

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But kind of defeats the purpose of having the whole leaf spring mounts

spiral portal
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yeah me no like the clicky sound even the Clack of stock Lavenders is annoying that i put my headphones on in my home office i have sound proofed for my 2000w surround sound system

jolly coral
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Then definitely choose the PP plate

spiral portal
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I will go the Iceberg with a Re:Zero theme once I get that board just ordered it and i will order some switches for it

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I just ordered it from one of the US companies

jolly coral
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Lead times are huge for actual custom stuff

spiral portal
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yeah

jolly coral
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Because they literally don't make it until you order it

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But Qwertykeys are just killing it right now with the prices they are charging

spiral portal
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that is good from a business stand point as it keeps overstock low

jolly coral
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We'll figure out the switches once you've tried the Pegasus

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It's a good starting point

spiral portal
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yeah if i like them i will probably just get another set

jolly coral
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It'll make your #⌨-keeb-tkl quiet

spiral portal
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yeah then i can go back to the rave while i work

jolly coral
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Beauty of silent switches

spiral portal
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yep i work nights since i work on Japan Time so i sound proofed my office so i don't wake my wife up

spiral portal
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@jolly coral I take it your custom builds are for a side business for others

jolly coral
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I don't do business

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It's a hobby

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Like building Legos or #1304836373194215555

spiral portal
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oh expensive hobby then

jolly coral
spiral portal
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yeah some of them are now $100+ for some of those sets

spiral portal
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do you just store them after your done

jolly coral
spiral portal
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lol

jolly coral
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So after I build them, I display them

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Cheaper than buying actual art

spiral portal
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like people do with motherboards that work at repair shops

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i am watching some of your timelapse builds is why i was asking

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change your board to fit your mood for the day lol

jolly coral
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Might be a repost, but where the keyboards are stored in the house right now

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My wife has 2 drawers, she doesn't like them out

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I have the original big wall with 100%/96% and 80%/75%

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A dedicated 80%/75%, mostly HE boards now wall

spiral portal
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nice

jolly coral
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A small wall of 60%/65%

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And the 3 daily drivers

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Close to my sitting position

gray wave
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What's the keyboard transparent-pink on bottom right, second pic called? 👀

spiral portal
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plus you can't go wrong with the 12" Miku Figures above

jolly coral
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Build post was here: #1071070910989209661 message

jolly coral
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I have walls of figures and toys in the house too

spiral portal
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yeah and those are not cheap ether I keep all mine in a room at my house in Kyoto cause my Wife said I had too many for sure

jolly coral
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One of the walls in the house

spiral portal
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nice collection i see some there that are worth a pretty penny now

jolly coral
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I have a storage unit

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Climate controlled

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The staircase to the basement: #general message

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Those are just a couple of photos I've posted before here on this server

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Anyways

spiral portal
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lol you sound like me the room at my house is as big as some small one bed apartments and i have the walls lined with glass shelves and 4 way glass cabinets in rows now i only keep a few here in Cali since I mainly buy them while I am there in Japan

jolly coral
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Big junk collector here

jolly coral
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Exchange rate was quite favorable for US for a bit

spiral portal
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yeah that is a good collectables exporter

jolly coral
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And shipping is not bad if you're not in a hurry

spiral portal
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Never should be if you want it in one piece when you get it

jolly coral
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Haha

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Lots of fun stories of my purchases in #1217473726598221925

winged patrol
spiral portal
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damn you have second season Snow Miku that alone is worth some serious cash now since it was limited edition and no reprints ever in the snow miku series

jolly coral
spiral portal
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lol well at least you learned how to clean them

jolly coral
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Got a full refund from Suruga-ya

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Surprised they didn't inspect after procuring

jolly coral
spiral portal
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well that was nice of them an you got to keep it

jolly coral
spiral portal
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true

jolly coral
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The tag was for like 600-800 yen

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They didn't even bother removing that

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Probably found it at some flea market in a remote part of Japan

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Anyways

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Keyboards

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Got a fresh shipment today, so going to get busy now that the wife and kids have gone to bed

jolly coral
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I just went through and ordered "one of everything" from their website

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The QK100 was the first to arrive

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Definitely a premium board and will require some care to assemble momo_whisper

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Probably will do that one last

winged patrol
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Nvm

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I thought made of evo80

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So got confused for sec

jolly coral
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The whole board comes in pieces

winged patrol
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Ohhhh ic

winged patrol
jolly coral
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You have to put everything together

winged patrol
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Pretty sure u will get the job done without any problems

jolly coral
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It's definitely not a pre-built

jolly coral
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And I customize as I see fit as I'm assembling

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That's why these premium boards are always in pieces

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So the user can build as they see fit

winged patrol
winged patrol
spiral portal
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nice have fun

spiral portal
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guess I wont be buying switches and caps from AliExpress any more make one purchase and now they disabled my account for no reason i am fighting it though it says my appeal was Accepted but i still can't log in good thing i have my tracking number saved and can use the global shipping tracker to track it

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it might be that they are going to ban the US from usage or something since that is the reason for the disabling of the account they give en_US so hope you wont have issues ether @jolly coral\

jolly coral
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Maybe you've missed a confirmation email that went to spam or something

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It happens

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Lots of shady stuff on AliExpress though

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Fun times

spiral portal
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ok good it just must be me then i am working on appealing it but I might just say screw it

jolly coral
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It's essentially what Amazon would be like if no seller moderation was done

jolly coral
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Not as consistent of stock, but you'll always get your order

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As for switches, there are several good online vendors, and you don't have to go through AliExpress

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If you're unsure of a vendor, just ask me, I've probably ordered from them before momo_nyeheh

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Going through a large vendor is also nice because you can browse through the various switches

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They usually have the switches sales page in a much more intuitive (to an enthusiast) layout

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AliExpress is just a jungle, sometimes is just not worth the hassle to save a couple of bucks

spiral portal
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yeah only got the switches there cause they were cheaper and on sale but yeah might not be worth it in the long run

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https://parcelsapp.com/ <-- Great for tracking international packages that use local shipping company like china does even gives you the next tracking number when it gets to the USA

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i will probably start getting my switches on milktooth, Amazon, or ebay

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I might buy another cheap board to play with different switch types i found some nice boards that has no switches or caps for around $80-120 that i might get one of as well just to see how other switches work to find that one perfect one

jolly coral
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Crazy foam board with a metal case. The definition of "thock"

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Otherwise, the Hi75 is a solid budget board as well: https://a.co/d/7UcwOoN

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Aluminum case, per key RGB

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Just built one last night:

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Getting the Hi75 will also give you a chance to try out the 75% layout and see if you like it

spiral portal
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love those keycaps

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i was looking at the FKZ GMK81 Keyboard

jolly coral
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And a 75% layout

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If I'm going plastic, I want something at least interesting, like a transparent case: https://a.co/d/gMrz7iT

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Or this fake carbon fiber stuff: #1071070910989209661 message

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It's currently at $21.59

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@spiral portal, that's a $21 keyboard with hot-swappable sockets, key RGB, side RGB, and a scroll wheel

spiral portal
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well that is cheap

jolly coral
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And it comes with a set of keycaps and switches

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So yeah, plastic keyboards momo_sweat

spiral portal
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lol yeah

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that is why i was looking at the $80+ range but some on sale are under that but i was looking at the original non-sale price

jolly coral
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And the Hi75

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But the most popular "custom keyboard" on Amazon has to be this one: https://a.co/d/gyv9TAu

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Not sure why the F75 is so popular

spiral portal
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yeah i will probably grab the Galaxy80 since it is only $60

jolly coral
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But it's insanely overpriced relative to the competition now for plastic keyboards

spiral portal
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probably due to the color LCD screen

jolly coral
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This was going to be my next post

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But I haven't gotten a chance to sit down to write yet

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That's the definition of thock

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That case is so foamed up, I struggle a little to install the switches because everything is just so squishy momo_sweat

spiral portal
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yeah that would would be too loud for me but some silent switches might do it on it

quick carbon
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Planning my first keyboard build feels like being thrown into the deep end but my legs are tied and I don't know how to swim

gray wave
quick carbon
jolly coral
quick carbon
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75 feels too cramped for my thick fingers

quick carbon
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Yup basically. Separate numpad for when needed

jolly coral
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The smaller stuff, not so much

quick carbon
jolly coral
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If you're in the $150 range, Evo80 is the best TKL you can buy at that range right now

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But no RGB

quick carbon
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Fair, im willingly to shell out a bit for one, budget maybe 300-350 for it?

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But if I don't need to spend it all then I won't

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Is it worthwhile to go for hotswaps vs soldering?

jolly coral
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Don't mess with soldering

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Most #1071070910989209661 have hot swap now

quick carbon
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Sick sounds good

jolly coral
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And the Mode Loop

quick carbon
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The keyboard im moving from is Razers Black Widow Chroma and it feels like "too much"? Way too loud and distracting for sure, too "sharp"

jolly coral
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#1071070910989209661 message

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#1071070910989209661 message

jolly coral
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Sounds like this? #1071070910989209661 message

quick carbon
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Easily avoidable

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But yeah, back to the keyboard recommendation

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At the 200-300 range, you also have the two Hall Effect keyboards that I would recommend

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And the newly released (this week) Keychron Q3 HE:

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I haven't gotten my Keychron HE keyboard yet

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Just ordered it

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Based on other people that got the K2, seems like Keychron is positioned to be the closest to catch up to Wooting

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Wooting is the definitive leader of the HE keyboard

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At the moment

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HE switches are Linear, meaning that you don't get tactile feedback until you "bottom out" (keycap hitting the switch plate)

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But since you can adjust the actuation point of the HE switches, you can set the actuation point low so that you don't get accidental triggers

quick carbon
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Does that affect the travel distance required for response time? I do some light gaming from fps to MOBA with friends.

jolly coral
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Making them slightly more functional/productive outside of gaming scenarios

quick carbon
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So HE is probably the best of both worlds in my case

jolly coral
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Sounds are not the best compared to the better mechanical keyboards

quick carbon
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That makes sense

jolly coral
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But definitely an improvement over your current plastic thing

quick carbon
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For sure. can HE keyboards also use non HE switches?

jolly coral
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And worse yet, they're not interchangeable

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Between brands

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Wooting uses Lekker switches

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And Keychron is using Gateron

quick carbon
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Oh damn

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Hmm alright, ill keep that in mind

jolly coral
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My 80HE build (that I'll post at some point)

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The orange/red is the gaming profile

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The white/pink is the normal profile

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Wooting has the slick profile switching function

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So you can literally adjust the entire keyboard setting with the put of a button

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Gaming profile has the actuation point at 0.4mm

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And normal profile has it at 2.0mm

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With your budget, you can probably get both. A pre-built 80HE is priced at $200

quick carbon
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Ooh okay

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I don't mind doing the build

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Sounds like fun and I'd probably enjoy the process and understand everything better

jolly coral
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And ordering the Evo80 from a US vendor will cost you $170

jolly coral
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They literally come in pieces

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(build from last night)

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Took me about 1.5 hours to get it to look like this:

quick carbon
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I feel my brain would enjoy this way too much

jolly coral
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A bit much in my opinion for a first time builder momo_sweat

jolly coral
quick carbon
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Building things and working through processes is usually the best part about doing anything like this

jolly coral
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See all the options momo_sweat

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But start with some good pre-builts so you can begin typing first

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And eventually as you explore more, you can make a more informed decision about which build you want to dive head into

quick carbon
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Yeah I'll probably pick up the wooting 80HE first, I saw they have the option to get the barebones and then pick switches and caps.

So I might do that so I can atleast build some of it and understand how to fix things

jolly coral
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The Mode Loop is pretty much out of stock anyway

jolly coral
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Going custom can easily reach past $300, especially with their metal case

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I wasn't super impressed with their metal case TBH

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This is the metal case

quick carbon
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Yeah, I travel for work sometimes and if I wanted to bring it with me I feel the metal case would be too hefty

jolly coral
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See much difference from the plastic case? #1071070910989209661 message

jolly coral
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Well, relative to your current plastic thing

quick carbon
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Yup yup, I think Wooting 80 HE with the plastic case

jolly coral
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Get some keycaps from Amazon

quick carbon
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Is there any particular difference between the Lekker L45 and L60?

jolly coral
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Throw them on and call it a day

jolly coral
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I found the L60 to be a bit too heavy

quick carbon
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Noted

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There's also the Gateron Jade's

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At least those are the three they market when getting the module rather than pre-built

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jolly coral
quick carbon
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I feel like I might paint the case and customize it

jolly coral
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Skip the primer step

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Heck, get an extra case while you order

quick carbon
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Fits well with my panda y70 even if I don't end up painting right away

jolly coral
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Beauty of actual #1071070910989209661: spare parts

quick carbon
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Should I get the switch lube and tool kit??

jolly coral
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Most switches come pre-lubed now

quick carbon
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Shold I grab the tool kit for building?

jolly coral
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You will need some GPL-205 eventually for lubing stabilizers

jolly coral
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Something like this

jolly coral
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Torx/Hex sometimes gives people trouble

quick carbon
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Usb c cable from wooting??

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$45 dollars feels steep

jolly coral
quick carbon
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Oh

jolly coral
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That's the aviator stuff

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And you should just get something more fun from Amazon

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And match whatever color you decide to paint

quick carbon
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Wrist wrest, I've never used one, do they actually help??

jolly coral
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Last thing, current lead time for an 80HE is 6 weeks:

quick carbon
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Fine with me, my new pc build doesn't fully complete till March. I can stay with the black widow till it arrives

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Current cart

jolly coral
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I recommend this silicone one: https://a.co/d/4gddSuo

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Yeah, the wrist rest is slightly cheaper on Amazon

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But you won't get the Wooting logo

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So up to you

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Wooting isn't overcharging for that wrist rest

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It's the same silicone one

quick carbon
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Noted okay

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I think this cart and the caps I sent are my current final thought

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Which with your help has saved me from my already week long indecision

jolly coral
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Shop for some switches as well

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For that eventual Evo80 build

quick carbon
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Roger that!!

jolly coral
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Tactile switches

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That's my thing

quick carbon
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It's a shame wootings discount from getting the module doesn't apply to both cases

jolly coral
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Not going to lie, my most recent Unikeys order momo_sweat

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MMD Princess is definitely a good place to start

quick carbon
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How many switches should I get, 11 sets of 10?

jolly coral
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Unikeys has 3 versions of them

jolly coral
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That'll cover the 75% as well

quick carbon
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Sick, thank you. Seriously, I would've spent another month pondering and stressing over what to pick

jolly coral
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But that Yakult kit is super fun

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The clear PC accent keycaps are super fun

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My current daily driver is a PBT/PC mix

quick carbon
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I'm trying to pick between the translucent or opaque

jolly coral
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The PC keycaps are accent keys

quick carbon
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Well the hiragana base kit covers the entire layout doesn't it?

jolly coral
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You have to start with one of these 2

quick carbon
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Yeah I was thinking the hiragana

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And the hiragana novelties too

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But I'll grab the translucent while I'm at it

jolly coral
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These 3 are the novelties:

quick carbon
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A bit overbudget including the wooting but ehh who cares

jolly coral
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Up to you, but that's going to be quite a few keys to choose from

quick carbon
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Yeah a bit of a shame the lettering isn't translucent

jolly coral
quick carbon
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Makes sense

jolly coral
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Shine-through keycaps have wear issues

quick carbon
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Interesting. Will the lighting show under the caps?

jolly coral
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That's why I prefer side-print

jolly coral
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80HE has pretty bright LEDs

quick carbon
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Okay Coolio

jolly coral
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Those translucent PC keycaps will be blinding

quick carbon
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I might shy away from the translucents then

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Overall 340 before tax for everything. Not too bad honestly

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Not considering that I haven't picked those princess switches yet for the evo80

jolly coral
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MMD makes budget switches

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Shouldn't cost much at all

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It's those fancy keycaps that you need to be careful of in this hobby

quick carbon
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Lol yeah not surprising. Beauty is costly

jolly coral
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Also a big set with a ton of novelties

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At least the Yakult set can be purchased separately

quick carbon
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My friend is addicted to the hoyoverse and is buying one of the collab sets. He is now broke lol

jolly coral
quick carbon
spiral portal
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Well maybe I will get my switches in a few days they already cleared us customs

spiral portal
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well I need to figure out how i want to do this modification to the KEEB

spiral portal
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yeah trying to decide if i want to paint the top or use a frosting technique on the plastic since the key caps i got are pretty much white with grey and some black

jolly coral
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Or are you thinking about scratching with a random orbital sander?

spiral portal
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yeah more a etching process

jolly coral
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Interesting

spiral portal
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they also make a frosting spray paint as well

jolly coral
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Not acrylic

spiral portal
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works on acrylic too

jolly coral
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Interesting

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Learned something new

spiral portal
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clean the acrylic with alcohol and then apply 3-4 coats

jolly coral
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But yeah, there's a frost acrylic diffuser layer on the Keeb already

spiral portal
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there is so might only need 1-2 coats to dull it down a bit more

jolly coral
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Fun times

spiral portal
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i plan to spray paint the plate off white at the very least

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since you can dim the LEDs if you want but sadly that also effects the the key leds

jolly coral
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Satin is popular right now

spiral portal
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they should have made it in zones

jolly coral
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Maybe go satin white with the plate

spiral portal
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not a bad price ether

quick carbon
jolly coral
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Be sure to share here after you finish

spiral portal
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Well tonight is keyboard surgery night. Switches come today in the regular mail. And aliexpress re-activated my account too.

spiral portal
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Well I got really unlucky I think my switches were returned since 90% of them had bend pins. Nothing a pair of electronic needle nose pliers can't fix but it is done for now just have to decide if I want to edit the case

jolly coral
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I just push them back with my finger

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As long as they're not completely smashed in

spiral portal
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ah i mean full on almost bent flat to the base of the switch or full curl to them

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like someone tried to install them backwards

jolly coral
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Oh

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If you got it from Amazon

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I would ask for a replacement

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And tell Amazon you're not going to return this set

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Since they're so messed up

spiral portal
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yeah if i did i would but after all the issues with AliExpress I just fixed them my self since I am used to fixing bent CPU pins on others PCs

jolly coral
spiral portal
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probably why they were so much cheaper then Amazon

jolly coral
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Dang, these got to you quick if you've ordered from AliExpress

spiral portal
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yeah about 6 days

jolly coral
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There's absolutely no protection with AliExpress

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Sorry to hear that

spiral portal
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yeah that is the reason i fixed them myself and they work just fine

jolly coral
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But yeah, flat nose pliers it is

spiral portal
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none were broken just bent

jolly coral
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So, how are they?

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And how are the new keycaps?

spiral portal
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they have alittle more push back and firmness then i like but minus the pin issue it is fine i can get use to them and they are not totally whisper quiet but enough it is not a bother

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the kepcaps are good and have a slight rough texture reminiscent of old 90s-early 2K keyboards but are nice and smooth with no issues

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I will say that putting in the first few switches into the Keeb was a pain in the ass i had to press down hard to get them to seat into the PCB but after around 10 or so it became easier with way less pressure

jolly coral
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yeah i saw those on Milktooth

jolly coral
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And here is another one with a clear top for better RGB transmission: https://milktooth.com/products/switches/silent-bluish-white

Milktooth

With a medium tactile feel, these switches offer a satisfying level of resistance when pressed, giving you a precise and comfortable typing experience. Despite their medium tactility, the Silent Bluish Whites are far from loud. In fact, these switches are designed to be as quiet as possible, making them perfect for office or shared living space ...

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yeah

jolly coral
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But slightly on the pricey side at 35 for $25

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But you want the Purple Elf

spiral portal
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I will run with these for a while but my next build i will probably a liner switch https://milktooth.com/products/switches/silent-sakura-43g

Milktooth

We are excited to present the Silent Sakura switches, meticulously engineered to deliver a whisper-quiet typing experience reminiscent of gentle raindrops tapping against a window. With an ultra-light 43g bottom out force, these switches are perfect for light typists seeking a subtle and serene typing environment.

jolly coral
spiral portal
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i have 2 more boards coming the galaxy80 and the Evo80 so i will be getting several more different types of switches

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yeah i just want to test them out but so far i can get use to these Pegasus Switches it will jsut take me a day or 2

jolly coral
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4mm total travel with 2mm pre-travel

spiral portal
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yeah they spring is just a be stiffer then i am use to

jolly coral
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Light spring with 37g actuation and 43g bottom out

jolly coral
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The tactile force is 60g, so that's what you may be feeling

spiral portal
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it might be since I normaly dont feel the bottom out

winged patrol
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that is nice

spiral portal
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I take it that keyboard has only per key LEDs to do that

jolly coral
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Very typical stuff

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Pretty sure it's this one:

spiral portal
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@jolly coral well I already got use to the Pegasus switches they are not bad at all.

quick carbon
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KBDFans requiring $450+ for free shipping is heartbreaking

jolly coral
quick carbon
jolly coral
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I ended up ordering a set after our chat momo_sweat

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Along with some other stuff to take full advantage of the initial 10% discount

quick carbon
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But KBDfans has stock but adds an extra 30 for shipping and handling

quick carbon
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Ill just have to wait till they get new stock for now

jolly coral
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I type with Romanji for Japanese, so having the hiragana isn't as crucial for me momo_sweat

quick carbon
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Thats fair, I type in Hiragana usually but also I like the look of the kit with the characters

jolly coral
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$30 extra isn't that bad

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Compared to filling your cart up to $450

quick carbon
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True but $100 vs $70 is a fairly large difference considering unikeys free shipping

jolly coral
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Don't wait around if they're not restocking

quick carbon
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They did restock after initially launch and fulfillment in August

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But I think I'll just bite the bullet on KBDfans. Atleast their aliexpress store is a bit cheaper

jolly coral
jolly coral
quick carbon
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They do?

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Havent seen any so

jolly coral
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Some end of season sale stuff

quick carbon
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Ah

jolly coral
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You go over $99, you get $12 off

quick carbon
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It's 92, but hey 89 is better than 92

jolly coral
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Coupons applies

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But not free shipping

quick carbon
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Bought

jolly coral
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Wait, did you not use coupons?

quick carbon
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I used the coupons

jolly coral
quick carbon
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Im excited

jolly coral
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Me too

quick carbon
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Idk if I wanna make the whole keyboard yakult themed or make it match my y70. I wanna make my y70 toothless and lightfury themed from how to train your dragon

jolly coral
# quick carbon Idk if I wanna make the whole keyboard yakult themed or make it match my y70. I ...
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There's a transparent red case that I'm planning to use my keycaps on

quick carbon
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Don't tempt me and my wallet like this

jolly coral
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Really good deal for $50

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Grab a set of the V3 Knight stabs while you're paying for shipping

quick carbon
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...

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Im holding for now

jolly coral
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The PCB has under glow to maximize the clear case effect:

quick carbon
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You can't do this to me

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I need to save

jolly coral
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Here's the clear red case:

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Perfect match for the Yakult set

quick carbon
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You're a bad influence

jolly coral
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You're on the #1071070910989209661 channel momo_nyeheh

quick carbon
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Im using some tax return money to buy myself a 3d printer

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So I could just try to make a wooting case

jolly coral
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The transparent plastic is quite nice

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But yeah, here's supposedly the best stabs on the market: https://swagkeys.com/products/sw-knight-stabilizer

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Ordered a few sets while I was paying for shipping:

quick carbon
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So much money

quick carbon
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KBDfans® Mechanical Keyboards Store

GT-80 Case It has been a year since the release of the Tofu60 Redux case, and we have received an abundance of positive feedback from our users. Following the launch of the Wooting 80HE by the Wooting team, an increasing number of users have inquired about a compatible case. In response to this demand, our team is exci

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YUNZII KEYBOARD

Product Description About this item TRI-MODE CONNECTION Plug and play, as a multi-functional laptop accessory, the YZ19 mechanical numpad offers 2.4ghz wireless, wired, and Bluetooth connectivity, ensuring compatibility with a wide range of devices including laptops, tablets, PCs, phones, and more. The keyboard is not

jolly coral
quick carbon
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jolly coral
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Lol a few seems like an understatement

jolly coral
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just helped Shin made this one today/tonight:

quick carbon
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I have a $50 gift card and so I trying to find a numpad to use it on

jolly coral
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he'll do the reveal later

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but crazy beautiful case

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he's passed out now

jolly coral
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Mechanical Keyboards

CNC machined aluminum case Double gasket mount design with steel plate and screw-in PCB mount stabilizers ARM Cortex-M4 chip (MCU) 1000 Hz polling rate in wired and 2.4 GHz mode Connect 3 ways- wired with USB-C cable, Bluetooth 5.1, and 2.4 GHz Programmable with QMK and VIA South-facing RGB LED Premium acoustic foam in

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US Stock

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ships free

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1 of 2 that I've done recently:

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2 of 2 that I've done recently:

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the 4 layers I have my Q0 (1 of 2) programmed:

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I actually ran out of functions

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but you technically can unlock 8 layers with QMK

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yes, the 3rd layer is a one handed keyboard

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most of the numpads don't come with enough keys

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but that extra column on the Q0 makes it incredible versatile

quick carbon
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Hmm

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This requires adding another $50 from my personal funds hmmm

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Why does shell white only come with gateron banana??

jolly coral
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Nevermind

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That's only for Black

jolly coral
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Most of the cheaper numpads are plastic and still cost as much as a whole keyboard momo_sweat

quick carbon
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Isnt the yunzi $50??

jolly coral
quick carbon
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I hate vanilla giftcards. I need to use the $50 balance but to get the Q0 I need to add it to my bank account

jolly coral
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good luck with that

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can't give out financial advices here

quick carbon
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Lol yea, we're figuring out workarounds. I'm buying that Q0 Max if it's the last thing I do

jolly coral
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haha

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it's a good purchase

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very very versatile

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it's permanently sitting on my desk now

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basically a macro pad

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since you can assign macro to every key

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all with QMK/VIA

quick carbon
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purchased lol

winged patrol
quick carbon
jolly coral
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Nothing fancy

quick carbon
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Okay, and it doesn't mess up the aluminum at all??

jolly coral
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I just sand to scratch the surface

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I don't take off the anodized coat

quick carbon
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Okay okay, noted. I got the white case for easier painting so hopefully it'll be fair bit simple

jolly coral
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Crazy simple and fun

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What color are you thinking?

quick carbon
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I wanna match either the cream or the red on the yakult keycaps. Either one color each for the 80HE and Q0 Max or the same color for both

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The 80HE will be easy since it's a plastic case. The Q0 will probably be a bit more of a process

jolly coral
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Nope

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Scratch and spray

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Same

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Most primer don't care

quick carbon
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Most posts recommend a self-etching primer. Is that required or regular primer just fine?

jolly coral
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Regular

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Cheap

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Cheap

quick carbon
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Okie

jolly coral
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You're not selling these

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Don't need to be perfect

quick carbon
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True that. Now to figure out the color mix to match the key caps

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Lack of color theory here we come

jolly coral
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Just go to the spray paint aisle

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Don't mix it yourself

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Grab the matching color off the shelf

quick carbon
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But what if I can't find it?

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I live in a small ass town in the middle of nowhere so I've only got a tiny walmart

quick carbon
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But do they have the matching color is the real question

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Or will I suffer in "close enough" hell

jolly coral
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Contrasts the keycaps better

quick carbon
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Noted, ill take a look

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My caps arrive between the 27th and 2nd

jolly coral
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Otherwise, get Amazon to ship to you: https://a.co/d/81fQCb1

quick carbon
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Closest I've got in Walmart

jolly coral
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That will look great

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The enamel coating will make sure the spray is more durable

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Going with the automotive sprays, you'll need to hit it with an additional coat of clear momo_sweat

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I would definitely go that route

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For red, you'll need grey primer

quick carbon
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Extra coats of clear are fine

jolly coral
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Don't skip the primer

quick carbon
jolly coral
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That's the key

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Use the right primer color

quick carbon
jolly coral
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Better color adhesions and color accuracy

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Don't know if you've noticed this detail, but after Lightning McQueen's big wreck in Cars 3

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His primer color was grey

quick carbon
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Wow I never thought that was like a specific thing

jolly coral
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Stopped by my local Walmart, and now I want to paint a red one momo_nyeheh

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Or maybe a more fun color like one of the neons

quick carbon
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Lmao

jolly coral
jolly coral
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picking up where I've left off with my keyboard adventures, the next keyboard to get built was the first of several keyboards that I was testing for Cerakey's Blue Crazed keycaps:

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I got my first set of Cerakey in purple around about half a year ago: #1071070910989209661 message

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it wasn't the best experience and I wasn't super impressed with their offering

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I think I was mostly still recovering from the whole Awekeys incidence and wanted to avoid "exotic" keycaps for a while

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but when I saw the Blue Crazed color restocking, I took the leap and purchased a set

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the biggest issue from the previous build with Cerakey is that they're heavier than your normal PBT

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they also made a metallic ping against any metal plates

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I ended up purchasing an Epomaker Galaxy 80 with a ton of foam and a soft PC plate:

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I had previously written off the Galaxy 80 because of just how crazy soft/foamy the entire setup was: #1071070910989209661 message

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but I really do think this would be the perfect fit for the weird Cerakey keycaps

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just like I remembered, the Galaxy 80 is a marvel of cheap keyboards with a metal case

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everything is just crazy budget oriented from the plain design to the plate mounted stabilizers:

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at least the stabilizers are well lubed

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since the Cerakey keycaps are slightly heavier than normal, I opted to use some Durock switches with heavier springs:

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Here's the Durock Ice King Tactile switches (68g) on the Galaxy 80, unlit:

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and here's the lit version of the Galaxy 80 with the Durock Ice King Tactile: