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[granite vault]

these two are good yea

[sweet comet]

alr thanks g

[granite vault]

charged attacks are broken anyways not for bleed but for stance and raw damage

just search for some more there are better ones for your build

[sweet comet]

bro look like that one mean that u wont understand until 2027

https://tenor.com/view/2027-meme-meme-gif-16520650678323978695

[granite vault]

that dumbass bird

[frosty vault]

true

btw any recommends on fun build (fun for means op big numbers

[granite vault]

giants crusher charge attacks trust

[frosty vault]

ideal for running through game

[granite vault]

the dual twinblade jumping bleed

arguably best build in the game

[frosty vault]

I am one step before you

[burnt thistle]

you may spot how ps twinblades are not there

[granite vault]

haha only missing talismans and armor xD

[nova mango]

we've all been there, make sure to level up your vigor

[dapper haven]

what does the PS stand for in this context

[burnt thistle]

powerstance

[brisk bramble]

powerstanced

[regal orchid]

powerstance

[burnt thistle]

oo baby a triple

[brisk bramble]

snails everywhere

[regal orchid]

bum

[dapper haven]

thanks for the answer fellas

[frosty vault]

yea I finished game with this

[dapper haven]

how come they dont just call it dual-wielding?

[brisk bramble]

yikes

[burnt thistle]

because gamers are notorious lazy typers

[feral gorge]

can be

[toxic field]

Fire talismans

[regal orchid]

because you can wield 2 weapons that dont use the powerstance moveset

[toxic field]

Love me a sac twig

[regal orchid]

yummy helmet

[frosty vault]

I know its bad but I am lazy to get armor and talismans xd

[granite vault]

haha these are not optimised but its a first playtrough so why not. cant recommend the rune loss thing tho. its pretty useless

[fleet owl]

doesnt matter :(
i face 5 different strong enemies and then 1 tree thing </3

[brisk bramble]

-5% phys ap helmet

[dapper haven]

that makes sense. this is an acceptable answer

[brisk bramble]

send the rest of your stats

[granite vault]

you got assasins gambit or unseen form? game changer for normal enemies

[toxic field]

The humble horse

[frosty vault]

there I am in new game+ because I am getting every achievement but I finished with same dex but with 20 vigor and 20 endurence

[regal orchid]

yummy end

[fleet owl]

how do they look?

[toxic field]

Endurance

You need more endurance btw

Don’t listen to anyone else. End or nothing.

[sweet comet]

whats the best thing to use in my katana ?I got nagakiba btw

[granite vault]

ones an ash of war and its the guy slicing his own hand with a dagger and the other is a sorcery with an invisible blue guy

[regal orchid]

it really depends on what ur building for

[last flume]

@granite vault hey can u perhaps drop me the sacred relic sword if u have time to spare

[regal orchid]

#how-to-access-trade-channels

[sweet comet]

bleed dmg hot papi dmg

[fleet owl]

uhh nvm then </3

[toxic field]

Goddamn quick scope

[granite vault]

i gotchu

[toxic field]

Rune farming is useless btw don’t do it

[last flume]

its just for buying and upgrading not leveling

[toxic field]

Happens

[frosty vault]

nah its good I will kill the lighting dragon I am dont know how to write his name and lazy to find it and one ending and I am done

[last flume]

same place same password

[granite vault]

do what you want but i agree farming isnt that fun. sd

[toxic field]

Placi?

[brisk bramble]

keep levelling strength to 80 then arcane to 60

[frosty vault]

yea

[granite vault]

wait a sec i only have a plus 9

[last flume]

can u clone it

[toxic field]

What about more end

[last flume]

the rembreance

[granite vault]

lets just say i got enough rememberances xD. sign down

[last flume]

lol

[fleet owl]

and I absolutely hate that you can just parry sometimes and sometimes not

WHY

[dapper haven]

thats the only reason i dont try to learn it

[frosty vault]

some attacks you cant parry or you just miss the timing xd

[frosty vault]

same xd

[last flume]

thanks

[granite vault]

ofc

[fleet owl]

its so much fun, but then there are enemies where its just COMPLETELY RANDOM which attacks you can parry and which you cant

[nova mango]

what weapon are you using

no matter just level up your vigor and try to parry them, it'll eventually get easier

[fleet owl]

rakshasas great katana

[nova mango]

after beating rennala on my first playthrough and realizing i could respec, i randomly dumped most of my levels into faith and kept being one tapped by the stupidest enemies

[dapper haven]

if it helps, the wiki has a list of each enemy and their attacks. a lot have details on what can be parried so you know what to expect

[fleet owl]

yea but every single stupid trash fucing character has other attacks that randomly cant be parried </3

[frosty vault]

I would love to try it but I dont have every single item there and dont know where to get it xd

[brisk bramble]

google

if you want the better build lol

said you were in ng+ so assumed you have an additional gargoyles twinblade and access to both rewards from millicents quest

if you dont you can replace the offhand twinblade with twinned knights and the rotten winged sword insignia with the regular winged sword insignia

[brisk bramble]

broke

[frosty vault]

true

[sweet comet]

guys whice one should I use its twin blade btw

[burnt thistle]

curious double ups in there

[brisk bramble]

depends on the rest of your build and stat allocation

how is sacred above quality

[frosty vault]

true xd

[fleet owl]

I am now at 82k runes just from searching a stupid grace

[sweet comet]

guys do I need to get my katana to lvl 10 to use this flame magic thingy?

[quaint inlet]

Can anybody tell me what staff is the best for a maxed out character I really don't want it to be the regal scepter

[fleet owl]

I FOUND A GRACE FINALLY OH MY GOD

[frosty vault]

no you thats spell you need staff

[fleet owl]

i need help with my mental now please help me

[burnt thistle]

saving the channel from 4 follow up questions

[brisk bramble]

:true:

[brisk bramble]

prince of deaths

[frosty vault]

mr. I have picture for everything xd

[quaint inlet]

Do you know where I can find that

[brisk bramble]

if you mean highest sorcery scaling

[brisk bramble]

google

[burnt thistle]

#1364618734014169288
stop asking the most googable questions and maybe there'll be less images to knee jerk

[quaint inlet]

Fair enough

[sweet comet]

ok thanks

[flint charm]

these one shot builds are legit clickbait lmao if you know how to buff in elden ring using talisman switches everything is a oneshot build

[frosty vault]

true sorry

[burnt thistle]

yes but when you're actively looking up information from youtube, what do you expect but content built for clicks

[frosty vault]

I hope thats not easily googled question I need Elden Lord ending on wiki every ending is elden lord

[granite vault]

you mean the standart ending?

[frosty vault]

idk this

[regal orchid]

any ending but ||frenzied flame|| and ||rannis|| counts for the elden lord achievement

[granite vault]

yeah thats just the normal ending i think. just beat the final boss. no need to do anything

[frosty vault]

ok thanks :D

[granite vault]

also nobody minds you asking. we are to help after all xD. asking real people is always better than an ai

[slate plank]

60 str ?

[prime grove]

So, if i killed the boss first i cant get the white mask?

[slate plank]

Can I do all the quests in one playthrough

[proven notch]

Does Mohg poise break build up while he's Nihiling?

Also is there any way to prevent Nihil from healing him

[burnt thistle]

he won't break, jury out whether the stagger meter goes up but feelcraft says yes at a reduced amount
you cannot prevent the healing, but you can kill him before he does it with enough dps

[proven notch]

I definitely do not have enough dps

[burnt thistle]

consider it simply a phase 2

[proven notch]

My lordsworn only does around 300 damage and it swings too slowly for that

Ive been getting some good attempts and have gotten him to like 3% hp, but its hard to find a healing opportunity and he 2 shots me a lot in phase 2

[burnt thistle]

you can sip between most if not all of his combos

one sip, stop being greedy with two

[digital blade]

Why do I keep dying to Loretta at caria Manor

[proven notch]

Because you only have 20 vigor

Also what is that stat spread

[digital blade]

I want to invest in str, int, and fiath

str for the claymore

int for the glintlade sorceries

faith for the beast surgery man incantatoins

[prime grove]

If i want to parry an attack with a sword or sheild
will i not be able to use the skill of my right hand?

[muted roost]

No no no

Pick one playstyle and dedicate to it

A little bit in everything well be very bad

[proven notch]

Also level vigor before anything else

[slender ridge]

No one laugh but started a mage and I'm rusty. Need help at radagon dog... 👉👈

[burnt thistle]

#xbox-co-op

[burnt thistle]

you can if you two hand your right hand weapon

[rotund root]

can anyone recommend a dual bandits curved sword build level 155

[burnt thistle]

#1329521082054475796 theres one in here

[rotund root]

thank you

[dapper haven]

i whooped his ass using bleed. if you get the tear that takes away the blood curse then you can just go ham on him

also roll in during phase two. rolling any other direction is gonna put you in that fire shtuff

[proven notch]

If Im using str would it be worth it to put the bleed affinity on my lordsworn instead of the heavy affinity?

[burnt thistle]

it would be more worth to learn how to avoid attacks that are killing you

[digital blade]

my endgame goal is 60 str 50 faith 40 int

[dapper haven]

that i am unsure. i used spiked caestus with heavy affinity myself. the passive bleed was enough for me. i’m not sure what the numbers would look like on a sword without passive bleed

[muted roost]

That's too high

[proven notch]

I can do that at the same time that I change affinities

[burnt thistle]

your start game goal should be 40 vigor, and not asking why do you die when you lack vigor

[proven notch]

Ive already gotten him really low before, I can do it the way I am now, Im just wondering how to make it a little easier by doing a little more damage

[muted roost]

You should be 60 vigor + 60 whichever one you choose

[burnt thistle]

that implies they care at all about a level cap, which the vast majority of people do not

[dapper haven]

frost bite makes life a little easier. i used chilling mist when he applied the curse markers, and then used the caestus every other time

[proven notch]

How much damage does full bleed proc do on Mohg?

[young nimbus]

Why not just try it?

[burnt thistle]

clearly optimization is not even a factor to try and covneince them towards, they're basically a soft troll with that moon of nokstella

[proven notch]

Im taking a break until tomorrow because Ive grinded him for a few hours today, and hopefully Ill be a bit better when I return

[dapper haven]

i think bleed procs do a set percentage. like 10% of max health?

[young nimbus]

Not sure which one is technically better or less hits to kill, but on heavy you can use armament buffs etc. I'm sure it doesn't matter and you'll get it either way.

[proven notch]

I could probably try spiked caestus tomorrow. I can get it up to +12

[dapper haven]

i abused endure in that fight too. very very useful if you can tank the damage

[proven notch]

Another aspect of my trouble is that Im definitely very underleveled for mohg at level 49

[dapper haven]

that does change a few things

[digital blade]

"This person uses a talisman i dont like that means therye a troll!!!" said nobody with any maturity level higher than that of a preschooler

[hard burrow]

What’s the best level for co-op and invasions?

[digital blade]

ofc its the person with the expert role too

[burnt thistle]

it's more that you clearly understand the video game but ask the most absurd questions

[dapper haven]

depends on the type of duels and co-ops you wanna be paired with. maybe this help? #pvp message

[burnt thistle]

basically setting up engagement bait

[proven notch]

Something you're doing right is that you're not fat rolling, which is really good. Aside from leveling vigor and focusing in on one stat instead of multiple, it would also be beneficial for you to try to get 51 poise

[proven notch]

Also what item is that in your first left hand slot?

You could try 2 handing your claymore

[digital blade]

Beast claw seal and grafted dragon

[proven notch]

When you're not casting faith spells make sure you're two handing your claymore

[digital blade]

yeah i am im only onehanding to cast incants and spells

[burnt thistle]

it's also not because i don't like the talisman, it's just self snitching you rushed to nokstella for 2 spell slots passing up memory slots to get there, so you know enough of the game to do silly things like that

but then also ask why am i dying while having 20 vigor

it's just unusual yknow

[digital blade]

Saying "Yeah you dont deserve assistance with the game because youre not using a talisman I like" is like saying "You cant play with me at recess because you like the spiderman toy and I like the batman toy so we cant be friends" except on the internet and not in a sandbox

[burnt thistle]

when did i say those words
you were handed assistances prior, level vigor

[proven notch]

Also finding the whetblade in godrick's castle could help if you put the heavy affinity on the claymore, which makes it scale better with str

[burnt thistle]

having a name of a dlc item but asking why am i dying
pretty strange

[earnest tulip]

Lfg depth 1

[digital blade]

pal having an item and knowing everything are not mutually inclusive

someone can know how to kick consort radahns ass but still have no clue how to beat bayle

[brisk bramble]

yes he just has superarmor which prevents stagger
not seeing anything about reduced poise damage but some of the hidden speffects might cause it
once he puts both hands on his spear speffect 10669 kicks in until the final attack which halves incoming damage

[untold crown]

Nerd

[burnt thistle]

understanding that attacks reduce your hp, you die when you have 0 hp, and that you can level your hp further is not a big ask

[proven notch]

Thanks

[regal orchid]

if the argument is about this then i think the only glaring issue is that at this point one should be able to diagnose why theyre dying or atleast have an idea as to how to combat it

unless u just started and someone dropped u dlc items

[brisk bramble]

the attack where he raises his spear into a little blood portal and does a splash also has superarmor

otherwise the rest can be staggered just fine

[burnt thistle]

i would absolutely love to dissect that with just about anyone else

[untold crown]

Yhorm hunting horn is actually op

[brisk bramble]

:true:

[digital blade]

i could also level my damage stats further and, you know, deal more damage

[regal orchid]

is ur weapon maxed

[digital blade]

which is the entire point of the game

[burnt thistle]

that is true
however you do 0 damage when you're dead
alas

and your question is 'why am i dying'

[digital blade]

dealing 300 damage when im alive is better than dealing 10 damage when alive and staying alive for 10 seconds longer

[burnt thistle]

happily post some video and folks can provide advice for actual action in the fight to avoid damage

[regal orchid]

thats an extreme example

[digital blade]

not really its how scaling works

[regal orchid]

are you doing +0 run or smth

[brisk bramble]

big

[raven wave]

Losing braincells in this convo

[burnt thistle]

why would you for any reason ever scroll up in #community-help , ever

[raven wave]

Idk I haven’t been here in a while thought I would give it a go

“Help the community”

[digital blade]

My weapon is at +6

[burnt thistle]

wb, self care is clicking that x at the top right

[regal orchid]

so level it up

[raven wave]

But alas the community does not need helping they need positive reinforcement

[digital blade]

"level it up" with the smithing stones i dont have access to

2000 IQ right there

[regal orchid]

play the game to get to them

[raven wave]

The remedy would be just leave the server but I’d feel bad

[digital blade]

i need to beat loretta to play the game

[regal orchid]

huh

[digital blade]

you heard me

[burnt thistle]

there's a [4] behind you
you can walk into ruin-strewn and get 11 [4]s
that's +12 right there

[digital blade]

i cant walk anywhere bruh

[regal orchid]

fly there

[raven wave]

Why, someone got your legs?

[digital blade]

no

[untold crown]

I have them

[raven wave]

Where’s mine then

[untold crown]

I ate

[raven wave]

[burnt thistle]

still unconvinced it's not all engagement bait but at least it's funny engagement

[raven wave]

Imma be saddled on torrent 24/7

[digital blade]

ive seen you before you think everything is engagement bait

[burnt thistle]

ok

[prime grove]

In my right sword
In my left a sword or shield
Will i still be able to use?

[digital blade]

elden ring forum users when somebody asks for help on the help forum and they arent omniscient in terms of elden ring (must be bait)

[regal orchid]

where is the first question

[burnt thistle]

you can only use your right hand ash if the left hand weapon/shield has the No Skill ash, otherwise you need to two hand your right hand weapon

something regarding can i ash with a parry shield

[raven wave]

Okay let’s start over, what do you need help with

[brisk bramble]

5716 assuming lord of blood and in ng

5916 if using bleed2

[untold crown]

bleed3 when

[digital blade]

like my bad for not knowing the bug that patched radahn's right elbow on january 17 2024 5:52 am thats only acccessible through a deleted patch note on internet archive that you have to pay someone on ebay $7 to mail you a piece of paper with the patch note name scribbled on it

[brisk bramble]

poison8 when

[proven notch]

No ng+, 1st playthrough

[untold crown]

Ong

[digital blade]

Build feedback and how to improve damage and allat

[regal orchid]

^

show us ur build

[proven notch]

Also what's bleed 2

[burnt thistle]

felt like this was deja vu

[raven wave]

Send a screenshot of your build from your inventory with your weapon and stats

[brisk bramble]

different type on some weapons that does +200 flat damage after 15% of their max hp instead of +100

[untold crown]

What is the moon doing here

[digital blade]

yeah here

[digital blade]

you think youre so funny dont you

[burnt thistle]

don't troll mvd, don't be me

[untold crown]

[burnt thistle]

i am literally forwarding the info they asked wdym

[digital blade]

that i JUST gave

[brisk bramble]

bleed2 weapons

[digital blade]

and dont start whining about vigor i am focused purely on damage

[proven notch]

I assume spiked caestus will have a lot less stagger than my lordsworn so proccing bleed will be a good alternative to poise breaks

[digital blade]

ive been playing glass cannon builds in every videogame ive played i dont intend to stop now

[untold crown]

Have you considered buffing

[proven notch]

Very bad idea but ok

[dapper haven]

aka super bleed

[burnt thistle]

ok neat
there's a [4] behind you
you can walk into ruin-strewn and get 11 [4]s
that's +12 right there

[digital blade]

if i survive 1 hit on 10% HP I might as well have died

[digital blade]

glass cannons are the only way to play games

[untold crown]

I guess bro

[digital blade]

I just said I cant walk anywhere

[regal orchid]

whys the grafted dragon there, if ur not using all ur spells replace mirror, carian slicer but no staff to cast it with unless ur swapping it out,

[proven notch]

Unfortunately with your build you are also not a cannon, you are just glass

[regal orchid]

why

[burnt thistle]

you walked to nokstella to get moon
you can either whine and play victim and engagement bait these fine folks from their time, or you can just play the video game

[proven notch]

And until you beat renalla you will not be able to fix it easily

[regal orchid]

is this a challenge run

[dapper haven]

bro said you got that tissue paper build

[proven notch]

Being ok at everything does not help, its best to be amazing at one thing because instead of doing multiple different things in a row at middling effectiveness, you can do one thing REALLY good until the enemy dies

[untold crown]

Whatever the heck Bruce Lee said

[burnt thistle]

be like water

[digital blade]

its a nice weapon

[raven wave]

1. First off, get vigor, you have pretty low health for where you are in the game
2. Second, you’re carrying more weapons than you need you can rid of the broadsword and grafted dragon as you’re unlikely to swap to them mid fight
3. Upgrade your weapon from the materials in the ruin strewn precipice, look it up on yt it will let you lvl to a +12
4. Your Moon of Nokstella Talisman is useless here, you can use smth like Turle head in general.
5. Loretta in Caria Manor is a spirit so you want to use a lightning Ash of War or a lightning grease to deal more dmg

[proven notch]

Like if you want to use a greatsword you shouldnt also do spells because why do spells when you can do greatsword better

[regal orchid]

you dont meet the reqs and its just sitting there

[digital blade]

1. Im using a glass cannon build
2. The broadsword is for golden vow
3. Im at +9
4. The moon of nokstella is for spells

[digital blade]

emotional support

[regal orchid]

whats up with carian slicer then

[digital blade]

damage

[regal orchid]

you arent using a staff

[digital blade]

yes i am

[proven notch]

The best way to do damage is to be alive

[untold crown]

Flame grant me strength

[regal orchid]

are you just hardswapping

[digital blade]

yes

glass cannon hardswap build is the only way to play elden ring

[untold crown]

I guess bro

[raven wave]

1. Sure whatever floats your boat
2. Put the vow on a dagger instead of smth that weights more than twice as much
3. A +12 is better than a +9
4. It’s better to focus on either spells or either go in melee

[proven notch]

Also there are probably some builds out there where you can skip the glass and just be a cannon. Trying to win with low vigor is setting yourself up to be oneshot by every boss and quit out of frustration

[regal orchid]

you can keep saying that but its not gonna help improve ur build

[untold crown]

Whatever tickles your feet

Or something..

[regal orchid]

if you really insist on "glass cannon" then do the other improvements people have been saying

[digital blade]

the boadsword weighs 3, i doubt it adds anything

[untold crown]

There is no optimised build that would use anything lower than 60 vigor so yea

[regal orchid]

less points wasted in end, its just more optimal

[burnt thistle]

and if you're so absurdly stubborn to not leave or improve your build, show your fight video so we can tell you what to actually do

[raven wave]

3 is twice of 1.5 which is an improvement

[proven notch]

If you REALLY want to lean into glass cannon, take off all armor and unused weapons and try to get a light roll. Its a bad idea but its best for what you say you want

[fleet sun]

moon of nokstella boosts 2 memory slot, and yet two of those memory slots are allocated with incants they cant even use successfully, what is thy purpose in it

[digital blade]

i plan to use them when i get the stats to use them

[regal orchid]

do you have the stats to use them now

[digital blade]

so im just putting them there so that i dont forget

[fleet sun]

theyre not gonna magically fly away

[burnt thistle]

but jerggy he's not a soft troll

[digital blade]

also when i have the stats to use them im probably gonna have a lot more incants to search through when i memorize spell so im putting them there right now

[raven wave]

And I’ll stop helping here because if you’re not gonna listen there’s no point in helping. Elden ring is inherently a massive game and after all it’s not our job to make ppl play the game some right way. If you do not wish to struggle you’ll think and do the improvements if not you’ll find your own way to progress.

[regal orchid]

^

we give you advice then you excuse it so this is like the only point left to improve on

[honest hemlock]

light roll provides next to 0 benefits in PvE lowk

helps with like 2 moves total

other times the distance is just messing up your positioning

[untold crown]

Still doable with med roll btw

[raven wave]

I mean you can use blue dancer

Early on that’s a decent thing to throw on

[honest hemlock]

I wish I could disable light roll and keep bdc active 💔

[raven wave]

[regal orchid]

rtsr

[honest hemlock]

true ‼️

[raven wave]

Don’t roll at all, just Iron Jar

[proven notch]

If you're planning on comitting to 0 leveling vigor, I promise your playthrough will either be 5 times longer due to being oneshot by bosses (giving you less opportunity to learn their attacks) or you wont even finish it

[honest hemlock]

did base ng no roll already (pre-dlc)

not as cool as other games no roll

[regal orchid]

rank ur top 3 no roll in er no morgott

[raven wave]

Uh Rennala top

[proven notch]

Is glass cannon even a valid archetype in elden ring? Will not leveling vigor even give that much of a boost to damage?

[untold crown]

No roll? What am I supposed to use my ketchup with

[honest hemlock]

uhhhh gduo Maliketh can be interesting and throw some random third guy in there

[primal blaze]

Whats the best affinity for rl1 starfists, i was thinking either standard or cold

[raven wave]

Put it on your spaghetti

[untold crown]

Cold

[honest hemlock]

keen

[untold crown]

I assume

[regal orchid]

in an extremely miniscule way at the detriment of dying much more

[prime talon]

boutta fight rellana, any tips?

[raven wave]

Cold will help your better than raw dmg

[burnt thistle]

/low hp/ with rtsr, sure, game on
just low vigor, max hp, ❌

[honest hemlock]

cold is nice but you already have very high damage already and can usually kill bosses before they get to do anything

[dapper haven]

how in the world do you do a no roll run

[brisk bramble]

and frost pot 😋

[honest hemlock]

especially with buffs not even counting like hardswapping

[regal orchid]

your never gonna believe what i say

[raven wave]

What’s rtsr

[brisk bramble]

your

[burnt thistle]

you strafe an absurdly large amount of attacks, otherwise walk away and walk back

[regal orchid]

red tearstone ring, aka red feathered branchsword

[honest hemlock]

strafe, jump, duck, outspace

[brisk bramble]

duck and its just sf cr2 recovery 😭

[raven wave]

This isn’t dark souls 🥀

[dapper haven]

i cannot fathom using mechanics that do not utilize i-frames

[burnt thistle]

tell that to the code

[regal orchid]

its been a hot minute since i played er and the ds equivalents are corrupting me

[desert mist]

maybe im da wannnn

[raven wave]

Imma tell that to Miyazaki

[prime grove]

Guys there's a very beautiful red dress but idk the name could someone tell me

[proven notch]

Rolling is a crutch, to git gud you must not roll. Trust.

[honest hemlock]

play ds2 IMMEDIATELY

[raven wave]

I just finished ds3 and uh the amount of reused assets in Elden ring is coming to me

[prime grove]

Alright thankyou

[regal orchid]

im going to i just need to find time to finish 100% ds1

[brisk bramble]

why make new params when you can reuse broken ones

[regal orchid]

its just stupid knights honor

[raven wave]

For example the area where you first encounter midir in the area with skeletons is the same as the path to Mohg the Omen where you do the skip

[untold crown]

Params? Are they delicious?

[brisk bramble]

mm parmesan

[raven wave]

No but I can use them to bind you

[glossy oak]

Dancer’s dress prolly?

[honest hemlock]

nuh uh

if you're cool enough you can do it with more weapons

[brisk bramble]

on a hotspot rn these videos gonna load forever

[prime talon]

bro i got rellana to half health in 2 attempts and died because of lag omfg

[untold crown]

Jokes on you i'm into that

[burnt thistle]

like 1:1?

[raven wave]

[brisk bramble]

okay ye and club cr2

gaxe when

[honest hemlock]

and club rolling r1

[brisk bramble]

zzz

[raven wave]

Oh btw they made Waguri 2.0 and I didn’t even realize lol

[untold crown]

Huh

What is a wagyu 2.0

[prime talon]

wagyu

[raven wave]

Yo MVD, Rin is cooler than you

[untold crown]

Who is rin

[primal blaze]

How are my talismans? I just beat shadow godfrey

[burnt thistle]

no moon, 10/10 no notes

[untold crown]

would get winged sword insignia

[broken venture]

Seems fine. You could add ritual sword or millicents if you want

[brisk bramble]

https://discord.com/channels/867784605293084702/1395853655155933194

[broken venture]

Over DCS mabye

[raven wave]

You’ll never see Index again

[brisk bramble]

prolly wont include negation talismans

[primal blaze]

Would that be in place of dragoncrest?

[broken venture]

Yes

[untold crown]

preposterous!

[raven wave]

I have her hostage

[broken venture]

Idea being rit shield should prevent 1 shot and estus should full heal anyway

[untold crown]

i'll break that illusion of yours or something

[raven wave]

You ain’t breaking these cold, star, fists of mine!

[untold crown]

peak

[prime talon]

YOOO NO WAY i got rellana down to 1 quarter of hp on my 5th attempt (never fought b4)

[raven wave]

Good

Go show that no cutscene fodder boss who’s the real boss

[dapper haven]

i always get rellana and rennala mixed up. i was about to offer advice on the 2nd area boss

[digital blade]

alr got the fight video

[digital blade]

I will finish itt

[raven wave]

Rellana is Messmer simp, Rennala is Radagon simp

[digital blade]

people do no hit run all the time

[raven wave]

Easy to distinguish

[dapper haven]

i like doing all-hit runs myself

[raven wave]

Black haired baddies want red haired studs

[broken venture]

Just an fyi yes it is

[burnt thistle]

low vigor, or low hp

[broken venture]

You can sacrifice anything for survivability and try to put it into damage

There’s tools in game just for doing stuff like this. It’s just when you try to justify it there isn’t really a reason

[digital blade]

id rather have 600 hp and do 500 damage than have 1200 hp and do 230 damage

simple as that. no point in surviving longer if you dont kill the boss fast enough anyways

[burnt thistle]

is that specifically benefiting from low vigor, or is that prioritizing the runes you get to damage, leaving you to still happily level vigor after

[broken venture]

The problem is you can have 1200 HP and 500 damage

[digital blade]

not without damage stats

60 of a damage stat with a weapon that has S scaling is going to hit far harder than S scaling with 10 of a damage stat

[untold crown]

60 with an unupgraded weapon is still ass

[digital blade]

+if you invest in vigor you are WASTING enough of a damage stat to wield an entirely new category of weapon

[prime talon]

oh.. my days i have no words.. 8th attempt never fought before im crying

[digital blade]

I said S scaling

if a weapon has S scaling its either maxed out or meteorite staff

[untold crown]

yea but like, are you having one

[digital blade]

yes

i indeed am

[bronze viper]

Guys need help with invasion for varre quest. Anyone help please ?

[untold crown]

fyi meteorite staff gets outclassed by other staves once they are upgraded to +15 or more

prob not 15 i can't remember the number on top of my head

[digital blade]

i was saying what weapons had S scaling

I legit just said meteorite staff had s scaling and you said it wasnt a good staff like i was using it i dont even go to caelid

[untold crown]

i never said it's bad

[bronze viper]

any quest related to him i would miss if killed ?

[untold crown]

i'ma step back and observe

[digital blade]

Leveling vigor means you expect to mess up and get hit

[burnt thistle]

nope, that is his purpose
i suppose if you have not been into altus at all, that would fast track rogier and radahn festival things

[digital blade]

Not leveling vigor means you're confident in your skill. Simple as that

[ashen echo]

Can anyone send me the best build for a level 137

[rotund root]

can anyone rune drop

[burnt thistle]

can we back track to your original question of asking why you're dying and posting your build with this statement in mind

[ashen echo]

If you teach me I can

[rotund root]

go to church of elleh

place down furled finger

and tell me password

[ashen echo]

Okay

[digital blade]

can we go back to the fact that you are being unconstructive for the sake of you dont like me and want to start something

[untold crown]

you can't drop runes by themselves you have to drop golden rune items

[digital blade]

always the "Expert" roles that know NOTHING about elden ring

[rotund root]

i know

[burnt thistle]

i'm sorry for unconstructively sharing how to easily get your weapon to +12

[untold crown]

pipe down

how about you let this go?

[digital blade]

you pipe down

if damage stats dont matter then beat the entirety of elden ring without leveling up any damage stats or upgrading your weapon

[untold crown]

hey somebody did

[digital blade]

since theyre so irrelevant surely beating consort radahn with base stats and a +0 broadsword wouldnt be that hard

[digital blade]

then YOU do it next

[digital blade]

ruin strewn precipice does not exist

[untold crown]

i never said they don't matter, i only said they contribute almost to nothing if your weapon is not upgraded

[regal orchid]

are we still going

[burnt thistle]

there's a hypen between ruin-strewn

it's the norther liurnia cave, N/NW of the grand lift, visible on your map as an orange circle

[rotund root]

can anyone rune drop me?

[burnt thistle]

#how-to-access-trade-channels

[untold crown]

#how-to-access-trade-channels

[muted roost]

Makar wants to have a word with you

[untold crown]

how can your car speak

[digital blade]

who

[muted roost]

Makar

[digital blade]

yeah you can blame @untold crown for acting tough

[muted roost]

Magma wyrm makar

[desert mist]

oh yaw mawn

[untold crown]

how insufferable

[muted roost]

A boss that drops the coolest weapon in the game

[prime talon]

LETS GOOO

[untold crown]

gg

[burnt thistle]

gg gamer

[prime talon]

17 tries

[honest hemlock]

are y'all still getting baited by this fella

[regal orchid]

so do you actually want an answer to ur question because every response ive seen youve rejected in some way

[muted roost]

YEAH

[regal orchid]

otherwise this convo is done

[muted roost]

Ban

Haima gavel him

[tribal thistle]

How do I use spirit ashes?

[untold crown]

have you got the spirit calling bell

[burnt thistle]

thanks noni

[untold crown]

oh dope

[regal orchid]

2 easter eggs

also super scuffed image haha

[untold crown]

i miss that mr beast image

and he's not even the real one

[regal orchid]

i shouldve put more effort

[onyx gale]

Who did this rotfl

[tribal thistle]

❤️

[untold crown]

@regal orchid

[burnt thistle]

is the highlighter streak an accident

[regal orchid]

idk'

[regal orchid]

no i still dont know why that appeared

[onyx gale]

I’m crying

[burnt thistle]

clipping tool misclicks

[junior thunder]

Would anyone be willing to help me with the red wolf boss in the gelmir heros grave? I'm tryin to get the last death root and for some ungodly reason I just am having a major skill issue

[broken venture]

Damage stats don’t do as much as you’d think

[untold crown]

who peed on her hat

[glossy oak]

-# is that Mr fea-

[regal orchid]

i wouldnt bother wasting ur time on this

[broken venture]

The difference between a hyper setup and a normal build isn’t gonna be crazy

[tribal thistle]

Sorry wasn't feeling too good

[burnt thistle]

kinda 50/50 on soft troll or personality disorder tbh

[honest hemlock]

no they're actually goated and dominate people in pvp with a +0 RoB fr

[tribal thistle]

What the heck

[regal orchid]

not you

[burnt thistle]

i'll get that guy with the meteorite ore blade back here

[burnt thistle]

oh pardon you're fine, enjoy the spirit summons

i highly reccomend land squirts or soldjars of fortune when you find them for the comedy

[honest hemlock]

lowk I gotta get him on a 125 build and he will eventually learn to beat slandz in tourney

[tribal thistle]

Oh

[regal orchid]

am i cool yet

[untold crown]

big hp bar

[honest hemlock]

this isn't ds2

[muted roost]

Which game is that

[regal orchid]

ds1

[muted roost]

Why does it look so shıtty

[burnt thistle]

ds1

[regal orchid]

its ds1...

[onyx gale]

Elden ring temu version

[muted roost]

Then imagine how des is gonna look like

[burnt thistle]

and thats remaster too, wheres my 3d model physical fire

[muted roost]

THAT'S REMASTER?

[regal orchid]

this is ds1r

ptde is even worse

[muted roost]

WHAT?

[regal orchid]

so bad infact that i bought ds1r instead

[muted roost]

Then how atrocius is the og

[onyx gale]

Demon souls

[untold crown]

there's also this game that released in 2017 btw

[fleet sun]

console ds1 had an area that stuttered fps down to 15-20, if that gives you an idea

[digital blade]

they do more than you think

with the right setup i was able to do ~800 more damage with 60 vigor and BHF than 25 vigor and BHF

i meant dexterity

[onyx gale]

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-gif-16286462460492858366

[broken venture]

That’s cause you’re changing other stuff

35 points of investment isn’t gonna add 800 more damage per hit

[honest hemlock]

Mars

[broken venture]

There’s also a spectrum to an “optimized build”. You can opt for stuff that leans more into damage vs defenses

[honest hemlock]

they're not serious Mars

their whole message history is engagement bait

[broken venture]

I know it’s for other people

[honest hemlock]

they escaped twitter bot containment

[burnt thistle]

🥲

[untold crown]

😫

[burnt thistle]

was hoping for that video post to really suss it out

[primal blaze]

What should be my best move now? Im doing an rl1 run and just killed Morgott. I have a +12 star fist rn but idk I should upgrade it, kill radahn or smth else entirely. Sorry for all these questions guys im just tryna optimize the run

[honest hemlock]

upgrade your star fist and then go for radahn

you can go lake of rot and get the alabaster lord's sword there instead of consecrated snowfield

very good weapon

[primal blaze]

What level can i expect to get it to at this point. Its been like two years since i played base game

[honest hemlock]

with mountaintops you should be able to get +25 now I think

+20 is doable before Morgott too but I can't remember if you can get any higher than that

[primal blaze]

Im loving Ritual shield too ngl, its the only reason i even beat Morgott. But will it fall off?

[burnt thistle]

if you're up for killing an astel yes

ritual shield will last you a bit more as a safety crutch from a lot of things, the big spicy moves or anything multi hit no
would be neat to see what fire giant things you can tank with it if any

[honest hemlock]

I think you should lean heavier into your strengths at rl1 (that being your very high damage) instead of trying to fix your weakness (not being able to survive many hits)

[burnt thistle]

https://discord.com/channels/867784605293084702/1395853655155933194 is there for you but i'd hate to stifle chat

[primal blaze]

Wait you reminded fire giant is next. Worst boss ever second to only gnoster

[clever lava]

why am i doing such low dmg to mohg with dark moon greatsword

[broken venture]

Post your build

[lavish fog]

I feel like I have an alright set up for journey 3 doing a young Radahn build but I feel like my stats aren't doing as much to improve my weapons and damage.

[slate plank]

WHAT have I done, the entire world is burning. 😭

[onyx geode]

What its better for a dex/faith build, 60 dex and 40 faith or 50/50? I want to use a keen uchigatana with electrify armament mainly but i also want to use some incantations for long range

[lavish fog]

I use Starscourge greatswords for crowd control if I use them most of the time it's Radahns Greatswords (Lord)

[muted roost]

Eden's gonna be pissed

[muted roost]

Insert superman gif

[acoustic cave]

sup, i want to kill radahn but idk how to deal more damage, im doing like 350 i think, what should i use or what are some good combos

all i do is enchant my weapon with bleed and go fight

[muted roost]

I don't see a lot of room for improvement

Raise vigor to 30 (done him recently with that), and use fgms with bloodflame blade

[prime talon]

is it bad that i 3rd tried messmer, never fought b4 or what (i can give proof too lol)

[acoustic cave]

fgms?

[muted roost]

Flame grant me strengh

The one above black flame blade

Sorry the one next to that one

[muted roost]

That's flame cleanse me

[sinful steppe]

Looking to do my first playthrough and use a strength build i prefer Greatsword in other souls games any suggestions on a decent one i can get

[muted roost]

I would also go claw talisman over twinblade talisman

[prime talon]

i lowkey need help getting to this kinda area, i dont know how to leave the sahdow keep to get there

[muted roost]

Iron and gargayole's, the former one is stronger by like 5 AR at 60 str but is a pain to farm, the latter drops from a bossfight (a pretty annoying but doable one)

[acoustic cave]

is running then jumping and doing ctrl+click considered a heavy attack?

i got these

[fleet sun]

the water area or that big tower

[muted roost]

This boosts charged heavy attacks

[prime talon]

i think i found it i went down this big ladder

or like a little bit towards it?? idk

[muted roost]

Not just heavy attacks

[acoustic cave]

o alr

[muted roost]

Still a good choice

[prime talon]

yo i found a coffin

why can i rest in it tf

[worthy breach]

I've gotten all the larval tears in the game is their any other way to respect or do I have to stick with this build (I don't rly like it)

[coarse oxide]

Go into ng+ and get another larval tear

[worthy breach]

Dang I've never beat the game so I can't do that

If I'll js keep playing this build

Ig*

[prime talon]

r the dryleaf arts droppable?

[coarse oxide]

Yes

[prime talon]

okay

[wary palm]

Currently have 48% of the game completed can someone help me explain what I may be missing? Here are all the graces I have so far

[mental osprey]

can't see it that clearly but I think you haven't gotten to mohgwyn's palace yet, it's also underground

[leaden schooner]

What’s a good Nagakiba build for pvp and pve that uses faith

[wary palm]

Thank you is it more north or south of the map if you know?

[fleet sun]

theres a teleporter in the hidden snowfield area, above that small ruin to the left of the map area, or if you done varre quest, he shouldve given a medal

[wooden jay]

just got elden ring and im in this siofra river place just a quick question but im level 18 should i be here because everything im picking up seems to be a quite a lot better from what i was getting before

[fleet sun]

no, siofra river shouldn't be handled till after you defeat a specific boss. Focus on whats on ground, not underground for the current moment.

and stay away from the right of Limgrave, not a good idea to go there at all till mid-end game

[wooden jay]

thank you, i appreciate the feedback

[dapper haven]

skyrim reference

[uneven bear]

How do I get up here??? It looks like you're meant to go around the north edge and circle back but there's nothing there

Never mind I figured it out

[ashen echo]

Can anyone help me with the Radeon boss fight?

[young nimbus]

Do you mean Radagon or do you want me to fry your GPU?

[ashen echo]

Radan*

[young nimbus]

Rhadan?

[ashen echo]

Yes

[young nimbus]

Either way #pc-co-op

[ashen echo]

Im ps5

[young nimbus]

#playstation-co-op

[ashen echo]

Can you help?

[young nimbus]

Mb

Anyone looking to help would be there

[ashen echo]

Okay

[prime grove]

I might be blind but did u make melina burn herself on the volcano after defeating the giant?

[vague bear]

Where was the place where you can see boss stats

[regal orchid]

like for every single enemy or do you meam boss infographics

[mental osprey]

they prolly did cause they have the graces in farum azula

[eternal kite]

How do you get there???

[winged rock]

its a whole big circle around the snow biom, very annoying to get to

[eternal kite]

Ok

[uneven bear]

Didn't make it there yet but I looked up and saw the cliff to the west touching it

[winged rock]

the right tip of it is where you can jump from one place to there

[haughty owl]

Any new players need help?

[wary palm]

Yeah I think that’s what happened

[prime grove]

Oh okay i asked bc i didnt see that flying city

[wary palm]

Do you think my story line is messed up?

[wary palm]

^

[prime grove]

Not sure abt that

[winged rock]

if anyone is ever stuck on promise consort radahn, just spam reduvia

its how i beat him on ng+3

[simple totem]

if ur struggling just use weapon

dont forget to roll

[winged rock]

yes

[untold crown]

oh i see, i've been reading him bed time stories

[frosty vault]

Hi i want to do challenge run where i can use weapons i usually dont and be interesting to Watch any tips?

[clear rivet]

I think Radhann weapons the light ones

I think I got after I defeated him in dlc

If u upgrade it to max

Ggs to the whole game

But I suggest u you use rivers of blood

With seppuku and some strong buffs

[untold crown]

you can't put seppuku on rob but you can use seppuku on another weapon

[spark forge]

Rob with seppuku pog

[raven wave]

They’re actually pretty ass all things considered

Starscourge one is way better with a better ash than both the dlc ones

Not to mention star caller cry is just pure aura

[clear rivet]

In my point of view it’s a good weapon

[tender quiver]

-# not to mention all of radahn's weapons are somewhat mediocre anyway but base game is definitely better than dlc

[raven wave]

Fair enough

[spark forge]

Star scourge is also pretty ass. It's honestly funny how mediocre it is

[raven wave]

Boss weapons are usually ass but starscourge is still way better than the dlc ones as Eden said

[tender quiver]

squeeze as much damage as you like it still works out mid

[raven wave]

Another reason the dlc ending is underwhelming asf

I would literally use Rominas weapon over either of radahns

[tender quiver]

dlc got like one banger of a boss weapon total

and its sword lance

[raven wave]

That’s only cuz yall love numbers

And it does numbers

[tender quiver]

I am a numbers girl yes

[raven wave]

I am an Elden blinger

[tender quiver]

the other boss weapons are still decent but like

SL is braindead good lol

My favourite is probably the funny sunflower

[raven wave]

Lowk the only weapon I ended up using even after the dlc was freyja’s greatsword

[raven wave]

I just love the aow on it

[tender quiver]

which is sadly also a buff stick to us numbers people lol

[raven wave]

Wait wdym buff stick

[tender quiver]

buff stick, it buffs redmane skills

[raven wave]

Like just having it equipped?

[tender quiver]

yep

[raven wave]

Didn’t know that

Good to know tho

This is massive for any lions claw build I do

[tender quiver]

10% damage boost for (almost) free

[raven wave]

Just the equip load

[tender quiver]

just kinda heavy so you might as well use it as a offsac stick too

[raven wave]

Which I don’t mind tbh

Why do you have spear talisman in there tho, for counter hits?

Wait no that’s dagger

It’s been a few months since Elden ring

Lowk forgot what spear talisman did

No wait

Spear is for counter hits

This is what happens when I doubt myself too much

[serene radish]

I’m in Leyndell using a +13 claymore. Sometimes I can one shot perfumers with lions claw, other times I’m doing 200 damage (on one that doesn’t know I’m there, so he hasn’t buffed himself in any way) can anyone tell me why? Annoying I expect to one shot a perfumer and then get triple shot killed by flame arrows in the back when it doesn’t die in one hit

[raven wave]

Your aow will inherently always do more dmg than just your normal or charged hits

Usually

You cannot set the expectation that you will one shot

Also yes perfumers will put up bubble shield and put up their shields

And buff their allies, so sneaking and backstabbing the perfumers to take them out first is best

[tender quiver]

lets not troll in the help channels please

[raven wave]

There’s trolling nearly always in comm help

[serene radish]

Right but this perfumer is bent over completely unaware of my presence, and doesn’t have the obvious golden aura around him, this perfumer looks like every other perfumer that I one shot with my ash of war. I have the fp and stamina required

It’s just annoying. I kill six of these guys in the same fashion, consistently one shotting them, then all of a sudden, I do 200 damage to the one unaware of my presence

[raven wave]

Not sure how that’s happening because enemies that haven’t detected you yet take more damage actually

[serene radish]

Huh..I didn’t know that. Makes it even more confusing lol. Ah well guess I’ll just fight this one specific guy differently. Cheers mate

[raven wave]

Cheers and gl mate you got this

[prime talon]

beat loretta far too quickly now for the stupid run to malenia 🫩

[dusky wolf]

hello can someone drop me rudivia dagger? im tryna build dual dagger and im using new steam acc so my old elden ring is lost

[prime talon]

i probably could but idk exactly hwo to drop items

[mighty schooner]

Do the.yura starting quest he carries u and you basically get it for free

[dusky wolf]

i already have one im tryna build dual dagger so i need 2

[mighty schooner]

Ah alr ill do it what pw?

[dusky wolf]

hollup lemme open rq

[mighty schooner]

Alr lmk

Wait i didnt read

Mb im ps

Cant

[dusky wolf]

u cant cross platform?

shiiii

[mighty schooner]

Unfortunately not but its an easy weapon to get im sure someone wouldnt mind dropping it

[prime talon]

im on pc

[dusky wolf]

nice

[prime talon]

im omw to malenia rn but i can help

[dusky wolf]

hollup lemme create lobby

or u can create lobby

ill join

[mighty schooner]

I think u have to right?

[dusky wolf]

oh it must be me? alr

[prime talon]

i place sign and they use they furlcalling

go to church of elleh

[mighty schooner]

Then u js leave item

Simple

[dusky wolf]

wait how do u create lobby again

[prime talon]

u dont create lobbies

when u go to multiplayer do u see "furlcalling finger remedy"

[dusky wolf]

no i mean how to set up that you can join

[mighty schooner]

Make a password

[prime talon]

im saying that rn

[mighty schooner]

He will use finger

[prime talon]

that too

[mighty schooner]

You use remedy

[dusky wolf]

alr

[mighty schooner]

Find red sign

Summon

[dusky wolf]

hollup elden ring still loading

[prime talon]

red sign is bloody finger right? i forgot

[dusky wolf]

sorry to disturb yall i just want to makke dual dagger build xd

i think its yellow sign no?

[mighty schooner]

I use recuscant finger

[mighty schooner]

No red for invasions

[prime talon]

kk

it can be both

either one works

[mighty schooner]

Ah i thought if he killed the tree sent u cant

[dusky wolf]

alr wait fennx my elden ring still loading i really need to upgrade my pc

[prime talon]

yurp it'll be a yellow sign i place near church of elleh, figure out a password (u could also use mine)

[dusky wolf]

its always like this when i just opened my pc elden ring is slow

[wooden mortar]

yo can someone drop me like 1.6 billion runes

[mighty schooner]

L ssd

[prime talon]

bro wtf are we doing 💔

[dusky wolf]

mohgwyn farm

XD

[tender quiver]

getting to max level is a waste and this isn't the place

[supple grotto]

fr

[mighty schooner]

Bro your not slick 🤣🤣🤣 also you can mohgwyn farm for 12 days if you want max level so bad

[prime talon]

just get like lv 200 with the mohgwyn farm

[wooden mortar]

so can someone drop the sacred relic sword for the farm

[tender quiver]

or just play the game and use larval tears instead of grinding mindlessly smile

[tender quiver]

#how-to-access-trade-channels

[supple grotto]

even that a bit too much 120 is enough

[prime talon]

bro elden ring is NOT this hard

[prime talon]

yeah

[mighty schooner]

Brutha js beat the game 🤣😭

[wooden mortar]

morgott too hard

[tender quiver]

are we for real

[mighty schooner]

Go to radahn get his remembrance get his starscourge greatsword and use that (if you so must rune farm)

[prime talon]

wait till he sees malenia

[tender quiver]

40 vigor and upgrade your weapon to +12
You can do this via bell bearings and a respec at Rennala, he should be plenty tolerable after that

[dusky wolf]

fuh i need to heat up my pc first cause i only open it today imma dm u later @prime talon

[prime talon]

ight

[wooden mortar]

moonveil or bloodhounds fang better overall for bosses?

[prime talon]

ill be fighting malenia

[mighty schooner]

For rune farm specifically

[dusky wolf]

goodluck boss man

[tender quiver]

Whichever you enjoy using

[prime talon]

i beat rellana earlier

[zealous dune]

Whats the emote used to call blaiddM

[tender quiver]

both are good

[zealous dune]

I forgot

[mighty schooner]

I just use godskin peeler cuz it looks cool

[prime talon]

like 17 attempts or sum like that

[tender quiver]

finger snap, obtained from Kale after asking about the howling in mistwood

[mighty schooner]

I havent done dlc yet, gonna do it after plat how bad is it?

[tender quiver]

its manageable if you explore and get your scadutree fragments

[prime talon]

its really hard if u dont prioritise scadutree

[tender quiver]

and the obvious 60 vigor + max weapon

[mighty schooner]

No clue what that is but ill learn

[prime talon]

i just use 50 vigor

60 feels like a waste

[tender quiver]

yknow like golden seeds and whatnot
scadutree fragments are like that but for negations and damage, they only apply in the dlc though

[zealous dune]

Alr, i have it, but i forgot which emote it is

[tender quiver]

60 is the final softcap, it is not a waste

[mighty schooner]

60 does feel like a waste cuz even with max level flasks you cant heal fully

[prime talon]

hol up watching malenia's opening cutscene

[tender quiver]

that's not a reason to not prioritise 60 vigor lmao you're trying to not die

[mighty schooner]

Ah so if i got them i couldnt just have them and then ng+ and breeze through main game?

[tender quiver]

the health trumps any other stat investment it could go into

[tender quiver]

I mean I suppose but you can hit the scadutree blessing softcap (12) without fighting any major bosses in the dlc anyway

[prime talon]

60 does not feel worth it

[wooden mortar]

the stats does not matter as much as the incantation and the strengthening of it right guys

[tender quiver]

there are no other places to put the points that matter more

[prime talon]

just go 50, it kkeeps u alive well enough (unless u cant dodge)

[mighty schooner]

Wellllll.. depends

[tender quiver]

vigor is important, the rest less so

[prime talon]

yes there are tf

[solemn laurel]

Holaaa

[tender quiver]

there are not, list them, I'll shoot them down

[mighty schooner]

Less, yes, unimportant, no

[wooden mortar]

so like for moonveil should I respec to this

[solemn laurel]

If Okina doesn't spawn in the mountaintops where am I supposed to get rivers of blood from

[mighty schooner]

Try grace and go back

[tender quiver]

Provided you're medium rolling with that much endurance that looks good

[solemn laurel]

Did and restarted and done everything

[tender quiver]

I gotta go on break

[wooden mortar]

ok

[dusky wolf]

u go to the church and he will invade

[mighty schooner]

Wait is there a difference between med and light rolls?

[dusky wolf]

iirc

[prime talon]

depends on the build really, i got 50 and use everything on the main stats i would slot in then put the rest into like arcane for bleed build up and other things

[solemn laurel]

I've finished the game I've done everything to get him to spawn and he still doesn't

[wooden mortar]

also guys does extra weapons in inventory contribute to the weight for rolling?

[mighty schooner]

I believe beside vigor, dex trumps all

[dusky wolf]

ye

[prime talon]

if u got 50 and still have stats left u can bolster ur build with stacking another stat as long as its below soft cap

and if it does u good

thats how i play around with stats atleast and it let me beat messmer in 3 tries, rellana in 17 and all other bosses in 2-3 tries

those are the main 2 dlc bosses ive killed atleast

[dusky wolf]

messmer was easy i thought he was gonna be hard after all the hype

[mighty schooner]

All of my builds are horrible so i just do not that much

Ive yet to find a good dex weapon for dlc

[dusky wolf]

the first phase was harder than the second phase for me

bayle fight was the most peak tho

[prime talon]

messmer is actually decently hard he just needs more hp

cus i lowkey outdps'd him after the first move on 1st and 2nd phase

[prime talon]

havent done it yet lol

[dusky wolf]

2nd phase u can hit his snake body

[dusky wolf]

its peak

[prime talon]

yeah

idk where its at

[dusky wolf]

make sure to summon igon

he make the fight more peak

[prime talon]

so many bosses ive seen on tiktok n stuff but ive never seen wqhere they are

[dusky wolf]

CURSE YOU BAYLEEEEE

[prime talon]

malenia doesnt deserve lifesteal btw

ts is ragebait

[dusky wolf]

fuh malenia

[prime talon]

i almost get her to 2nd phase then she lifesteals

[dusky wolf]

even just going to the boss fight is torture

[prime talon]

yeah

the waterfowl dance always gvets me low

wait hold on do i even have to deal with waterfowl dance in 2nd phase??

[dusky wolf]

yes

shes squishy but yea she can lifesteal XD

[prime talon]

waterfowl dance the only thing i have a problem with bro

everything else isnt hard

[raven wave]

That’s pretty much the whole boss

[dusky wolf]

real

u can cancel it with a frozen pot

[raven wave]

It’s very hard to react to

[prime talon]

i dont feel like getting freeze pots

[dusky wolf]

yea its like cheesing it

[raven wave]

Plus you pretty much have to throw it instantly as she goes up in the air

[prime talon]

bro u could get this boss 1 tap into 2nd phase and she will do the most devastating waterfowl dance of ur career and one hit u

[dusky wolf]

u can drop rn @prime talon ?

[prime talon]

1 more try

[dusky wolf]

alr lmk

[prime talon]

yo fuh this boss bro

im boutta do ng+6 atp

got me geeked

[dusky wolf]

this fhe password my man

xqsr666

[prime talon]

doing good until she levitates like casper and assaults me

sd near grace

[dusky wolf]

sd?

[prime talon]

sign down

use a furlcalling remedy in ur multiplayer tab

[dusky wolf]

alr wait

[prime talon]

they are 1k at the merchant btw

[dusky wolf]

imma go church of elleh

[prime talon]

yeah thats where i placed it

i sais that earlier lol

alr

[dusky wolf]

alr i summoned

[prime talon]

how tf do i drop this bih

i dont see a leave button

i feel dumb

[dusky wolf]

click weapon then leave

[prime talon]

took me a second

[dusky wolf]

thankyouuuu

[prime talon]

u want other stuff or nah

[dusky wolf]

im good now thanks

[prime talon]

alr if u want a white mask later i can give u one

[dusky wolf]

oh yea

[prime talon]

i need to do varres quest rq

[dusky wolf]

oh then i can do it now

[prime talon]

i like JUST started my new journey

[dusky wolf]

i alr took 1 npc

[prime talon]

nah i can do it

oh

[dusky wolf]

yea

[prime talon]

its the one at the back dont bother with the 1st 2

[dusky wolf]

ty again brodiee

[prime talon]

ur welcome

i could probably slide some talismans tooooooo i got spares

like a LoBE for 20% bleed dmg when it occurs in the vicinity

[dusky wolf]

oh fr wait if u got extra millicent prosthesis or rotten winged swordman i will happily accept it

xd cause i can only get 1

[prime talon]

i dont have a rotten

but i do have a millicent

[dusky wolf]

shii if u have extra

[prime talon]

i can probably get a rotten winged in under an hour

[dusky wolf]

yea cause u on malenia u can complete quest

[prime talon]

i got a LoBE, millicents prothesis and a shard of alexander for now

i just need the rotten winged

[dusky wolf]

can i get prosthesis and shard of alexander? if u have spares

[prime talon]

yeah i got a spare

[dusky wolf]

alr alr lmk when u can

[prime talon]

do u alr have a lord of bloods exultation

[dusky wolf]

i dont but i can get it now since i alr am on lyndell

[prime talon]

alr

u do that while i get rotten

[dusky wolf]

bet @ me imma do it now

[prime talon]

ive never done this full questline if ima be honest

[dusky wolf]

its easy

dw

[prime talon]

someone gave me it but i am stacked rn

[tender quiver]

that isn't a greater benefit than more HP lol

you do 0 damage dead

[prime talon]

i literally dont even need 60, all my time in thise game was 50 and ive been beating some of the harder bosses in the game

and im not doing bad on malenia rn

[tender quiver]

that is specific to you

[dusky wolf]

where do u get 4th talisman pouch again? i forgot which boss it os

[prime talon]

idk but did u get the twin maiden husk one

[tender quiver]

I personally rarely use more than 40 or 30 but I acknowledge that its personal
60 is optimal, the other stats do not give as much of a benefit as being able to survive does

[prime talon]

i just dodge everything lowkey

[tender quiver]

1 from start
1 from Margit
1 from Enia after 2 shardbearers
1 from Goldfrey