off-topic

[crimson drift]

uhm pushes up glasses acktually i did technically add value

[lofty charm]

artificial would be bots, or lying

[crimson drift]

it's artificially boosting the count by playing the stream to people who aren't actually watching it, sorry we disagree on the semantics i guess

[lofty charm]

lol, comes at me with memes, cause your too stupid to tell the difference between real and fake

[crimson drift]

like lmao read what you typed 'forcing people to watch isn't artifical' like do you really believe that?

nice personal attacks

gg you win

clearly the superior interlocutor

[lofty charm]

nice personal attacks? look at what you said literally just before mate haha

[lofty charm]

it's not artificial. it's scummy as f-, but it's not artificial.

artificial would be bots or the like. fake viewers. your viewers, your just unwilling lol

[weary silo]

It's artificial because people aren't watching it but it counts as views. Meaning it gets more popular, therefore more money, etc.

[crimson drift]

forced viewers are fake viewers

[left hamlet]

you guys getting the game on pc or console?

[lofty charm]

console

[weary silo]

Pc and hoping it will run

[crimson drift]

PC baybeeee, also you can click on peoples names to see what platform(s) they've chosen ❤️ 🌈

[weary silo]

If the deleted requirements were the recommended, it's looking ok for me

[lofty charm]

nope, forced viewers are forced viewers. they aren't fake, they just don't want to be watching, and aren't really paying attention.

[left hamlet]

oh yeah i forgot

ive pre ordered for pc

[lofty charm]

pretty sure those were red dead (dunno one or two) requirements, copied and pasted. not certain tho

[left hamlet]

but that rce thingy scares me bruh

hopefully it wont affect elden ring

[crimson drift]

if all of the viewers of a stream were forced, would you say they are all real viewers?

[lofty charm]

if you don't co-op, it won't effect you, as solo invasions don't happen at all anymore

[crimson drift]

@left hamlet just sent you a DM regarding that situation, seems it won't be affecting ER

[lofty charm]

yes. it's not a good, thing, i'm agreeing with you, i'm legit just disagreeing with the technicality behind, artificial. it is basically semantics lol

[crimson drift]

okay, that's all i needed to hear, thanks

[lofty charm]

lol yep. it is a tremendously scummy thing though, i agree.

[crimson drift]

cool

[left hamlet]

welp i play coop and invasions alot so

[lofty charm]

my point about hassan and pokimane, was that almost all really popular twitch streamers, are scummy people, doing scummy things lol. wasn't exactly relevant, but it was basically a, "meh, what can you expect", type of thing

[lofty charm]

same.

[lofty charm]

can you rock me that dm?

[crimson drift]

check the dark souls twitter account

[lofty charm]

aight

[left hamlet]

twitch streamers always on some bs

remember that chick started calling people broke for not donating😭

[lofty charm]

lol most definitely. it's a big part of how they stay popular, creating drama

[lofty charm]

omg, the "it's just five dollars, if you can sit here watching for hours, how crap of a person are you to not give me money" haha

[left hamlet]

im not completely sure how the earning works, they get paid regardless if people donate or not right?

from sponsorships for example?

[lofty charm]

once you get popular enough, yeah, through ads and sponsorships

it's why what fextra does is scummy, they are getting more cash for people that aren't actually willing, or watching

because once you hit that threshold, all views are money

[left hamlet]

fextralife?

[lofty charm]

yep. they're stream is perma-linked to the website, so anytime you go to a fextralife wiki for any game, you count as their viewer

it's pretty small, and in the corner, and no one watches it from there, but they still count as views

[honest minnow]

Just put in my pre-order

[lofty charm]

congrats

[honest minnow]

Thx

[left hamlet]

bruh thats some easy money for him

tht mfin weasel

🤣

[lofty charm]

like, if you open the ds3 fextra wiki, it's right there on the left of screen. also, the only way to remove it, is via vip or subscribing or whatever

[lofty charm]

lol ikr. like i admire the hustle, it's still scummy. same with poki, that fake innocence gig, it rakes in the cash haha

[left hamlet]

but hold on the only ones getting scammed is the company providing sponsorships / ads no?

[lofty charm]

yep. idk about anyone else, but the sound is by default muted for me, and it's in the corner so i almost never notice it, so the victim is definitely the ads/sponsorship people

almost all popular twitch streamers ( there are exceptions, obviously) are literally thieves

whether thats stealing tv shows, content from youtubers, other twitch streamers, or like fextra, just tricking the system, most of the big streamers do it in some way

[left hamlet]

the companies probably getting enough revenue that they dont seem to care, i dont know

they might not even notice it

[lofty charm]

lol exactly, it's advertisement, as long as they get a few more customers, it more than makes up for the cost

[left hamlet]

yeah the stealing content from youtubers is the most obvious ones

but tbh i dont really watch twitch streaminng i just see their content on youtube

[unique roost]

Yo

[lofty charm]

yep. now one of the big streamers, who is really good at not being a f-wad about it, is asmongold. from what i've seen, he tells people to check them out, watch the vid, subscribe and so on, and actually transforms the content, so he's not really stealing. but poki, hassan, and people like them, just let the videos play(poki watched avatar the last airbender, or master chef, without pausing, for example), which is legit just piracy, and sharing stolen property haha

yo

[left hamlet]

if anything, asmongold does free advertising for youtubers😂

[analog tundra]

Yo

[lofty charm]

lol exactly. if you pause enough, talk about it, and so on, it counts as "transformative" for the purposes of free use, and it's even better when you tell people to check them out

[left hamlet]

i dont find either hasan or pokimane entertaining tbh

ishowspeed however is one hell of a funny dude lol

u should check him out

[lofty charm]

i will. and yeah, poki is just annoying, hassan is just a racist a-hole lol

[lofty charm]

you into rap, at all?

[keen geyser]

eww asmongold?
in MY furry discord?

[left hamlet]

yeah

[keen geyser]

in MY elden ring discord?

[lofty charm]

you should check out rustage, and his cyphers. shwabadi as well. anime rap, it's epic. the cyphers rustage and the others make are amazing. first one i'd suggest checking out is either the Supernova rap cypher, or the Shonen jump rap cypher

[lofty charm]

lol yep. asmongolds chill

[left hamlet]

i know all of these haha

[keen geyser]

hopefully he's grown up since WoW classic

[lofty charm]

oof lol

you seen tech n9ne face off yet? or his older stuff, like caribou lou, dysfunctional and sickology 101?

[left hamlet]

yes sir

[lofty charm]

lol nice

[left hamlet]

tech n9ne is underrated

[lofty charm]

definitely

you heard shiki, senpai? haha

[left hamlet]

i know it but i dont fw it

borderline pedophilic

🤣

but thats not the reason

its just goofy af

[lofty charm]

lol hey, don't shirk the 1k year old lo li haha. nah, irl it's disgusting, in anime it's basically expected. honestly, that's part of the reason it's so popular, is because it's like an outlet for the taboo, same with all other forms of entertainment. it's mainly just a hilarious song though. back in the day, i put that as my buddies ring tone, and called him while he was in class haha

like, no shame on people being into any type of animated pron, just keep the taboo stuff, in animation lol

[left hamlet]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[lofty charm]

so long as it's not real, it's not an issue

[left hamlet]

ofc

but animation has a different effect

[lofty charm]

omg, so there is a pair of reddits i frequent, make your choice, and nsfwcyoa

[left hamlet]

cant compare children and lolis

[lofty charm]

exactly

[left hamlet]

i dont even feel like theyre the same thing

and lets not forget

short women exist

🤣

[lofty charm]

and on the nsfwcyoa reddit, there is literally everything, from guro and vore, to "bodily fluids", and torture and so on. but lo-li is banned haha. literally 90% of these things are animated, and only that is banned. people still make them with those characters, and provide links, within the links of the censored ones, but it's hilarious seeing people rage at the lo-li drawings, when the choice directly left of it, is a person ripped in half, supporting necro

like, talk about fake outrage, and virtue signalling haha

[left hamlet]

wtf

[lofty charm]

lol, something in their counted as a curse.

[lofty charm]

lol exactly

[left hamlet]

last time, no joke, i mistook an adult woman for a child

only for her to be actually older than me

[lofty charm]

omg, dude, these days 40 yo women look 15, and 15 year olds look 40, wtf happened

[left hamlet]

it was crazy

she was pissed

[lofty charm]

i was at the store, some lady hits on me, i'm like sorry but i'm 26, she was like, "rude, i'm only 30", i'm like wtf you look 10!!!!

[left hamlet]

nah bro look

she looked 14

was built like a 14 yr old

had the face of a 14 yr old

but is 28

lmfao

[lofty charm]

lol exactly

[left hamlet]

bruh

[lofty charm]

idk, it's gonna attract some people, just not sure thats a good thing haha

[left hamlet]

that happens when your ass balding at 15

[lofty charm]

although, the lo-lita complex is a thing

petite women being attractive isn't anything new, it's human nature(and animal nature), to be attracted to young, fertile, full of life people. humans however, "we live in a society" lol. we don't go for that anymore(anymore, cause legit it's only the past, waht 100-200 years that that changed, really)

not saying it's a bad change, just saying it's not strange, or wierd, or anything to be attracted to teen girls. the thing is, we don't allow actually getting with them these days. for a multitude of reasons, not all reasonable. basically it's like hitting a women, there are plenty of reasons to do so, you just don't do it ahha

[left hamlet]

well damn

[lofty charm]

bill burr is hilarious

[lofty charm]

what are you trying to type thats removed every time?

[left hamlet]

ofc 50 yr old men want to be with 20 yr olds

[lofty charm]

lol exactly

i also think it's funny how, a 20 year difference is fine once your 20-30, but no 2 years before that haha

[left hamlet]

ur stupid to act like u wouldnt want a young attractive woman at that age lol its human nature

[lofty charm]

as if 18 is "auto adult" age lol

[left hamlet]

honestly

[lofty charm]

exactly lol. some people want a mature women, some people want someone full of life, really depends on the person

[left hamlet]

u can be 18 and mature

but the funny thing is

ur not even allowed to buy alcohol here in netherlands unless ur 21

so ur still seen as a kid at 18 here

[lofty charm]

same in the u.s.

[left hamlet]

but its also the age u go to prison if you do something funny

[lofty charm]

lol ikr

like, you hit 18, and suddenly your friend who's birthday is a month after yours, is completely off-limits and if you think otherwise your considered the worst of the worst

[left hamlet]

but lets be real 18 yr olds are still brats

[lofty charm]

bruh i'm 26 and i still consider myself a brat haha

[left hamlet]

if im 50 i wouldnt wanna be with a brat lol

im turning 22 but i feel alot more mature compared to when i was 18

and im a grown ass 21 yr old

like legit

[lofty charm]

i'm the type where i'm either calm, or hyper as f-, and the calm is legit 90% of the time. i calmed down around 15

[left hamlet]

even my friends are in their late 20s / early 30s

[lofty charm]

omg, i know people in their 30s who still act like high schoolers

[left hamlet]

thats pathetic

[lofty charm]

like, you can be fun-loving, and energetic, but don't be immature, it's a big difference

like being "childish" in terms of enjoying life is good, being "childish" in how you interact with people is bad

[left hamlet]

im not hanging around no grown ass people acting like highschoolers💀

[lofty charm]

lol

[left hamlet]

n by tht i mean immature

[lofty charm]

lol, good luck, that's most people these days

[left hamlet]

i honestly dont know any

where u live

america?

[lofty charm]

yep, california too, one of the most intellectually challenged states.

[left hamlet]

maybe its common there then

i personally dont know someone like that

[lofty charm]

yeah, it's a big thing in america these days, people being unable to handle differing opinions, let alone criticism

or even advice, really

i mean, if you scrolled up in this channel, you'd see me pointing out that the new amazon lotr show, they need to have a reason, for black dwarves, hobbits, and elves, other than "diversity", or it's gonna go really bad for them. and the only response i got, was some guy saying, "i read that and all i saw was black creatures bad". it's like bruh, then you didn't read it lol

now, for lotr, it isn't as bad as witcher, cause witcher is based in polish folklore, so there aren't supposed to be black people, because there aren't any in polish folklore. and very few black people at all in poland. yet people are calling it racist. it's like, you wouldn't call a middle-african myth with no white people racist, and if you made a movie/game, it'd still have no white people.

[left hamlet]

lmfao

[lofty charm]

it's not an issue, but people, especially british, american, and australian people, make it one lol

[left hamlet]

i cracked up

but ur right tho bout the polish folklore

[lofty charm]

lol, the main feature of vanity's article on the lotr amazon show, is about a black dwarven princess, who, as far as we can see, has no beard, and is a single mom. it's like, are you trying to go against literally all the lore? haha

[lofty charm]

yep. a lot of fans of series get annoyed when diversity is forced into movies/games and so on. partially because, most of the time, they do so with no thought to the story, so it's obvious, and detrimental to the story, but also, because they also usually also just auto make white men, or men in general, the villains lol

like, diversity isn't a bad thing, per say, but forcing it, is

just look at america, it's a melting pot of cultures and peoples. there are good and bad things taken from every group that joins. overall together we improve as a whole. but when you try to force certain people into the limelight, or force certain groups to act the way you want, bad things happen.

the american civil war was a blatant example of that. north and south, both wanted the other to do what they thought was better, and they couldn't agree, so they tried to force it, and boom, war

hilariously enough, people still whine about slaver. it's like bruh, that's literally over a century ago, was the shortest period of slavery basically anyone knows of, and the cause of that slavery, was the slaves own relatives, and neighbors to begin with. combined with the fact that slavery still exists in some areas of the world, why you whining about it now? it literally doesn't effect you, or anyone you know haha.

[left hamlet]

spiderman miles morales?

[lofty charm]

lol, yeah. basically a dlc, marketed as a full game, and has blm graffiti around the game. like keep real world terrorist groups out of our games, unless they are a big part of it, don't do that subtle crap. now, before all those rage monsters freak out, not all blm supporters are terrorists, but the group is a terrorist group, no two ways a bout it, non-terrorist groups don't run around in bandana's, murdering people, firebombing stores, and stealing crap. especially not in the name of "less racism" lol

miles morales himself, idk enough about his origins to tell, but that game, was obvious diversity bait game

not bad because of it, obviously, the gameplay is still solid, even though the story was boring to me, other enjoyed it

like, one of the funniest parts of forced diversity, in american cinema and games, is that, they say "we need equal/accurate representation", and then they fire all the white men, while hiring diverstiy hires, and making the game like 99% non-white, and the white men usually the villains. like bruh, over 60% of america is white, your definition of accurate is way off haha.

like, more games and movies isn't a bad thing, hiring people based on skin color, is. by default. the only exception, is when it's required for a role. which, hilariously enough, the roles these people write, are almost never race specific

like, we need more games with african culture as the focus, obviously. that'd be great, more variety in games is a good thing. but if you make a game based in america, with an entirely black cast, except the villains, atleast make it reasonable, lol. like, if you make a game based around the time of slavery, it'd be the obvious(though also laziest) choice, no harm no foul(so long as it's portrayed accurately). but even then, most these people have no idea how slavery actually worked lol

i for one, want a survival sandbox game, based in middle africa, thousands of years ago. i think such a game has the potential to be a huge hit. africa is a beautiful place( mostly), and the animals there are cool, the cultures of some ancient tribes are very interesting as well. it'd be an amazing game. but people these days, get upset, if you make a zombie game in africa, with black zombies, so sadly, i don't think i'm gonna be playing such a game, anytime soon.

sorry for the brick wall of text, i really enjoy discussing these things, the pros and cons, how to make things better, what the issues are, and so on.

[left hamlet]

nah no worries i was eating

[lofty charm]

lol same, i'm eating mac n cheese

[left hamlet]

im eating a chicken breast sandiwch

[mental ingot]

Bro say you're racist and go lmao

sees black character diversity bait!

[lofty charm]

miles himself isn't diversity bait mate, the game was. if your gonna falsely accuse people, atleast try to use their actual words against them.

[lofty charm]

i don't eat chicken sandwhiches, never been something i liked lol

[left hamlet]

what else goes better on sandwiches then

[lofty charm]

turkey. or bacon for a blt. tuna sandwhich lol

[left hamlet]

you bugging

[lofty charm]

i just don't like chicken on sandwhiches, idk why, i think its a texture thing

[left hamlet]

turkey is dry asf

[lofty charm]

psh, chicken is as well

[left hamlet]

turkey has less fat

[lofty charm]

turkey and cheese sandwhich, with pepperchinis, melted in the oven,mmm, delicious

[left hamlet]

the only fatty thing u mentioned was bacon

[lofty charm]

psh, fattyness isn't goodness

[left hamlet]

but i dont eat bacon so

[daring pebble]

ur missing out

[left hamlet]

and no not a muslim

i just dont eat pork

[lofty charm]

to each their own mate, eat what you wanna eat lol.

[left hamlet]

you know what slaps on sandwiches

rabbit

nah let me stop playing

🤣

thats even worse than turkey probably

[mental ingot]

There's no such thing as "diversity bait". People are simply diverse.

Like you realize you're basically spouting great replacement talking points but in the scope of media lmao

No one is banishing white people from media in the name of forced diversity, again there's no such thing as forced diversity

[lofty charm]

lol, wrong. just look at anthem, "we are so diverse!!". games and movies, and really tons of different companies now, call out "diversity!!!!!" to the "woke" crazies, to try to appeal to them. shoehorning in diversity won't help a game be better. especially when it's done for disgusting real world politics.

[lofty charm]

lol really? your going with that blatant of a lie?

[lofty charm]

don't know what the great replacement is mate

[mental ingot]

Putting black people in a video game isn't politics you moron lmao

[lofty charm]

you do realise mutltiple companies have been taken to court for firing white men to hire diversity hires, right? including atleast one that hired 2 women, to replace one man

[mental ingot]

"shoehorning in diversity" lmfao are you a real person?

Don't answer that there's too many of you and you're all too real

[lofty charm]

your right, putting black people into games, isn't politics. but then, i'm not the one that said that, you are.

just look at the new lord of the rings. if you don't think that's shoehorning in diversity, your lying lol

[mental ingot]

You realize 'being taken to court' over something doesn't prove anything

[lofty charm]

the company that hired 2 women lost that case. they needed 2 people, to replace 1 man.

[mental ingot]

Also lmfao yeah the show looks awful, but not because it has women and minorities

[lofty charm]

ofcourse it's not. i explicitly said that skin color of the people, isn't the issue

[mental ingot]

Okay then good they lost that case?

[mental ingot]

So it's the women then?

[lofty charm]

lol no.

[left hamlet]

@tired nest u a fool for that

[tired nest]

😔 my bad baby

[lofty charm]

it's when, for example, with the dwarven princess, you forgo lore, and the story, to add in people solely because of what they look like, or what genitals they have, or who they are attracted to. anyone with an issue with black people being in movies/games et-cetera, is an idiot. my issue, and many fans, is that they race change people, to force the cast to seem more diverse, without any thought about the story.

[mental ingot]

I hope you have a blanket big enough to hide under the women and minorities are coming to purge all white protestant men

[lofty charm]

so, for exampel with the lord of the rings thing

if they put in the lore, a reason for a black, female dwarven princess, no one will be upset

the reason people are annoyed already, is because, so far, almost no one trying to force diversity, puts any thought into the story. we aren't annoyed that she's black, we are worried they will just say, "oh it's because reasons, shut up and accept it".

[mental ingot]

I'm sorry I'm not gonna lie to you, it's a fantasy show. If they retcon lore who gives a single sh*t. You're just upset that they changed the lore because it let to a woman or person of color being included lol

[lofty charm]

no lol, thats what we want them to do

we want them to retcon the lore, so it fits

the issue is when they don't

if there is no lore for it, then it just becomes an obvious "oh, well shes black cause they wanted diversity", instead of an in-universe things that makes sense

i think it could make an interesting story, the issue is they likely aren't going to put any effort, into making it an interesting story lol

[mental ingot]

Literally who cares lmao. You realize you'd by crying about the same stupid stuff if they did right? Like you're self aware enough? Like if they did retcon the lore you'd be sending walls of texts "the retcon doesn't make sense because !!!!!"

[left hamlet]

if u said asian this dude wouldnt be on your ass

100%

[lofty charm]

if the retcon makes sense, i woudln't lol

[lofty charm]

obviously lol

[mental ingot]

They don't have to change the lore every time they are gonna cast a black person lol

You can tell yourself that

I want you to reflect

Genuinly look deep inward

[lofty charm]

they do if they change an entire fantasy race, who has zero lore of any black people ever, and is a patriarchal monarchy, to have a black princess ruling them.

[mental ingot]

And ask yourself why you seek out these kind of things to be mad about

Again

It's a fantasy show dude who cares

[lofty charm]

i'm not mad, i'm dissapointed in their incompetence

[mental ingot]

Sorry Tolkien didn't set it in stone that all the dwarves are white lmao

[lofty charm]

ok, so if someone made a show based on african folk lore, and made all the people in charge white, and said "it's diversity", you'd be fine with it?

[mental ingot]

You're creating a hypothetical that isn't and won't happen lol

[lofty charm]

lol, they're dwarves mate.

[lofty charm]

your avoiding the question.

just goes to show your double standard, racist.

[mental ingot]

Yeah they are dwarves why are you crying that one of them is black dude 😭

[lofty charm]

lol, gotta love you avoiding the question even harder, and ignoring the points i've made

[mental ingot]

Because it's a stupid question. You're creating a fake premise for us to argue about. Debate bros love hypotheticals. Why the hell would I debate your hypothetical

[lofty charm]

sucks to suck dude, gg, all you've done is shown your racist

[keen geyser]

why would adding a black person to a fantasy show ruin it?

[lofty charm]

because it's literally what is actively happening to lotr and the witcher. it's not hypothetical, it's the same situation, reversed.

[lofty charm]

it doesn;t

[mental ingot]

Dude

It's a fantasy

Doesn't matter "what it's based on"

It's not real

The creators can do whatever they want with it lol

[keen geyser]

but you just said its ruining LOTR and the witcher

[left hamlet]

to be fair

[lofty charm]

no id didn;t

[left hamlet]

theres no black people in polish folklore

[lofty charm]

i said they're changing them, didn't say anything about postive or negative

[mental ingot]

Tbf, again it doesn't matter. It's a fantasy show. I'm sorry your feelings got hurt that they added some people of color lmao

[lofty charm]

this lol. hence my question about the reverse that kota runs away from cause he knows it shows just how idiotic his statements are haha

[left hamlet]

but i dont really care bout it

[keen geyser]

ok, and whats the positive or negative about it then

[mental ingot]

Like there's movies and shows about Greek gods. You know how many white people starred in all of those?

[left hamlet]

dude just wants the lore to make sense is all

somehow turned into a whole arguement

[mental ingot]

Like who gives a single sh*t dude you're losing your mind trying to justify your racist pretenses

[lofty charm]

the lotr show, we don't know yet. my point is that the trend with these changes, is they usually don't change the lore to make sense with the changes. like the black dwarven princess. it sounds interesting, we just don't want them to fail hardcore lore wise lol. they can change the lore, we just want it to be a competent change. but in addition to it being amazon shivers, changes like this tend towards incomepetence

[keen geyser]

idk, kinda dumb lore if one black person or a princess ruins it all

[mental ingot]

Like are you freaking out about whenever hollywood tries to anglo-white wash greeks and Romans?

[lofty charm]

the somehow is kota is one of those guys who strawmans and calls everyone he doesn't agree with or thinks he doesn't agree with racist lol

[left hamlet]

it doesnt for me, i dont really care

[lofty charm]

i think it's stupid as he-ll yes

[left hamlet]

can be purple or green for all i care

[mental ingot]

Or are you losing your mind constantly over how Jesus is portrayed as white when thats literally not possible?

Like

You realize how silly you look right?

Like this stuff does not matter

[keen geyser]

don't think LOTR lore was ever good to begin with tbh

[lofty charm]

how so? if you make a movie based in african folk lore, making one random king white makes no sense lol, this is the same thing.

[mental ingot]

When you are pulling your hair out over mf lord of the rings show that's gonna be trash either way simply because they've announced the casting and there's people of other races lmao

[lofty charm]

everyone knows "jesus", wasn;t white, what are you smoking dude?

[keen geyser]

yeah but how many african folk lore movies are there compared to white ones?

[lofty charm]

ah, the "it must happen for my diversity quota", argument.

[keen geyser]

lol what

[lofty charm]

your implication, beign that because more white folk lore movies exist, it's fine to change them.

[keen geyser]

cause who cares, there's like a million of them lol

[lofty charm]

your question, is implying that changing white people is fine, because tehre are more white folk lore movies, but changing black people woudln't be, because there are less.

that's idiotic at best

[lofty charm]

another strawman, we aren't talkin about all of movies ever. we are talking about one, extroardinarily popular fiction series.

[keen geyser]

wow

[lofty charm]

yes, wow. neither of you made any real , or reasonable, objection to what i said. kota just screams racist regardles of what is said, and you either don't understand, or purposefully twist, the point.

the point isn't that their black, or female. the point is that we have no faith in the writers, to change the lore for it to make sense.

them being black or female, isn't an issue in the slightest.

it's the ridiculously high chances, of them hafl-assing, or even ignoring, the lore, when changing something with such drastic lore implications.

you say lore doesn't matter, but it's literally the foundation of a fictional world/

all we are asking, is that they put the effort in, to make them make sense.

we don't care about the skin color, we care about them putting the effort in for that change to make sense.

[keen geyser]

alright then, don't let me get in the way of your crusade of getting rid of non-white people from european folk lore media
have a good one

[lofty charm]

an example being star wars new trilogy. the big spaceship ram scene, it completely breaks the lore.

[lofty charm]

that's not the point and you know it mate

talk about ignorance.

[unreal breach]

where the hell is her beard

no like seriously

[lofty charm]

lol that was my first question

i was like, wait, female dwarves have beards, wtf?!??

[unreal breach]

yeah they do

but on her it's nonexistent

oh

[lofty charm]

exactly lol. give her a big bushy beard, my lore though, haha

i'd love to see her with a beard. i bet it'd be glorious.

beard fit for royalty.

[mental ingot]

Bro we are all humans. One day race mixing will most likely make us all very similiar in skin color. I know that thought is scary to you but don't worry it's a lot of generations down the line assuming we make it that far. For now instead of losing your mind over black people on tv try to just sit back and enjoy a few things before your short lived time on earth is up and your racist ideology fades in the wind

Inshallah

[lofty charm]

basically, your an ignorant fool, who refuses to even read the comments of people he thinks might possibly slightly disagree with him, and assumes all differing opinions are racist, regardless of reality. got it. live long and prosper sped.

[lean parcel]

._.

@mental ingot @lofty charm Can we not? this kind of discussion does not belong in the server

[lofty charm]

lol sure

[lean parcel]

thank you

[mental ingot]

@lean parcel ban me if you want but you should do a better job of being a mod. Sorry for engaging with the massive wall of racism they posted in the chat after they advocated for being attracted to teen girls and that "there are plenty of reasons to hit women". Do a better job of keeping these kind of sick creeps off of places where people just want to have fun discussing elden ring and other video games

[lofty charm]

none of it was racist, didn't advocate anything, and the women part was a bill burr joke about there being plenty of reasons to, you just don't do it. anywayyyyys. so, anyone here big fans of the legend of zelda?

[lean parcel]

yikes

[limber quarry]

@lofty charm Nah, I dont play nintendo games

Pokemon on an emulator at most

[vivid root]

Zelda is the guy in the green cap right?

Yup yup

Am a fan

[lofty charm]

ah, sadness. i've played all consoles since i was little. mind if i ask, why do people dislike nintendo so much? i don't actually know

[lofty charm]

urgh. so much urgh lol

[lean parcel]

Majora's mask best Zelda

[vivid root]

Haha

[lofty charm]

oof, god no. my brother loves it, i couldn't stand it the time limit screwed me every time haha

[vivid root]

Cuz the console is so tiny

My hands cramp up just from playing an hour or so

[vivid root]

I only played BOTW in the zelda series

[lofty charm]

omg, yes it is. although, the ps5 is a brick house of a console haha

[lean parcel]

@lofty charm @mental ingot next time you two argue you'll be getting warned or potentially muted

[lofty charm]

apologies, felt the need to correct slander against me.

[limber quarry]

I cant tell for others but the way they sell the same pokemon game 3 times in a generation 60$ a piece not really a fan of that
Also there just isnt anything worthwhile on the platform to justify buying a potato console just to play them

[lofty charm]

understandable lol. pokemon has gone downhill recently, so dissapointing, was one of my favorite games back in the day

[limber quarry]

If theyre really going to dabble in open world 3d games in their current and future titles they should really make their next console less of a potato

I havent actually played botw but it looks so bare and barren

[vivid root]

Yeah Pokemon fire red and leaf green were THE DREAM back then

Especially emerald, what with battle frontier and all

[lofty charm]

it really is, it's so empty it's not even funny

[lean parcel]

I disagree

[vivid root]

Those were the only turn based rpgs i ever played

[vivid root]

It isn't barren, tho?

[lofty charm]

dude, remember staying up all knight playing pokemon silver, or pokemong red

[vivid root]

Yup yup,, then exchanging the started Pokemon

[lean parcel]

There's alot to discover and see in botw, and the empty feel is a part of the games story because it's following a mass calamity

[vivid root]

Pokemon these days ughh

[lofty charm]

it is, occasionally you'll run into a tower to activate(ubisoft style), or one of the really easy puzzles, but most of it is just empty plains, with the occasional camp of enemies that you break 3 weapons, to get one weapon, or a few arrows from a chest lol

[vivid root]

Makes me wanna cry

You can't even "catch'em all" in the new ones

And that's like THE tagline of the Pokemon franchise

[lofty charm]

lol ikr

[vivid root]

Yup

Oh well

The good old days

I play them on an emulator if i get an itch to see rayquaza, groudon and kyogre in the same party lol

[lofty charm]

lol nice

[vivid root]

And to be honest, i blew thru botw in a matter of days and returned it

So i don't think i should be one to critique it lol

[lofty charm]

lol

yeah i did most of the puzzles and got bored, gave it to my sister, she beat it but avoided the puzzles, we were both like, "well that was a disapointment"

[vivid root]

My hands killed me that week

I like the console joystick

Gives me them gamer feels lol

[crimson drift]

some mega yikes in off topic today, lmaooo

[quiet agate]

@stoic mango lol you didn't have to leave the other server, the quality of conversation there is going to be much higher than here, due to smaller size and less need to outmeme the last guy.

this is the bamco approved not-subreddit discord server

the other one is for r/eldenring

[stoic mango]

I'd rather be somewhere that isn't packed with chat trolls lol. I just want co-op, not a reason to gank anyone who invades me. They seem like those kinds of people.

[quiet agate]

that's what this place is. you haven't hung out in this one's general chat for very long, i would guess.

[stoic mango]

I have been here for all of 30 seconds.

[quiet agate]

or at the right time

yeah, here there are nearly 50k total members with anywhere from 10-15k online at a time, but chat at any time of day?

[crimson drift]

don't listen to 'em guy, plenty of jolly co-op to be had here

[quiet agate]

i never said there wasn't co-op here, just that if you were looking for somewhere without trolls, this ain't it.

[stoic mango]

😂

[quiet agate]

but to each his own!

[crimson drift]

bro TRUE

[lofty charm]

ah, Jolly Cooperation friend! what system you playing on?

[quiet agate]

looks like PC from the roles he picked

but he might be trolling, i'm not sure

[stoic mango]

PC

[quiet agate]

😉

[lofty charm]

ah, oof. i'm ps5, was gonna offer some jolly cooperation. i bid you fair tidings in your adventure, fellow tarnished, may you journey be long, and filled with pizazz.

[stoic mango]

Man, at least you have access to demon's souls.

[lofty charm]

mwahaha. ha. nah, i'm crossing my fingers for that and bloodborne to get pc ports. share the love, and all.

i'm of the, "the more the merrier" mindset, for games. seperating by system always seems shortsighted to me.

[stoic mango]

I feel that. I didn't have any other reason to drop money on the console so I didn't.

I could be wrong but I feel like there are usually less cheaters on console.

[quiet agate]

100%

[lofty charm]

most definitely. they exist, ofcourse, but it's a lot rarer.

[crimson drift]

blue sentinel, for online PC play

[vivid root]

I'm on ps5 too

[stoic mango]

Some kind of watchdog program huh. Sounds good

[quiet agate]

the work required for console exploits is a barrier to that, so i'm glad

[vivid root]

But never got into online play cuz I'm not that good lol

[crimson drift]

free, easy to install, works like magic

[quiet agate]

yep, the guys who make these things make them as easy to use as possible

the anti-cheat stuff, i mean

blue sentinel, pvp watchdog, ds1 node connector to make your connection pool bigger

all kinds of cool stuff from the community over the years

[stoic mango]

Did they limit you by region before?

[quiet agate]

iirc you've always been able to choose region, at least since ds1, but since it's p2p based and they suck at net code it's hit or miss. and connecting to someone far from you, like america to europe, or brazil to australia, meant the ping would be ridiculous and there'd be rubber banding or teleport backstabs or whatever else.

[stoic mango]

Ah got it lol

[quiet agate]

yep, pc souls has always had the community to back it up and fix little things that from can't or won't do, up until this RCE exploit business.

[cedar comet]

Anybody know when Elden ring will pre install on console

[lofty charm]

22nd, according to my ps5.

[cedar comet]

I assume the same is for series x

[lofty charm]

almost certainly, yeah.

[cedar comet]

I have both platforms but I haven’t gotten a ps5 yet which is why I pre ordered on series x

But it didn’t tell me when it’s gonna pre install on here

But that’s good to know because I gotta make space before then lol I just got dying light 2 on here and my storage is getting to that point

[vivid root]

I have been making space, deleting games, then reinstalling them and then deleting them again from a month ago lol

[lean parcel]

Can you believe i didn't know i had to react to ring thingy to open up the server?
.... I've had this server for two months now and i was wondering why its not functional yet....

[lofty charm]

hahaha, big oof my dude. welcome!!!

[lofty charm]

i played dying light 2. personally, was very dissapointed, but i hope you enjoy it.

[lean parcel]

😂 😂

[vivid root]

I DID react to the ringy thingy, but i wasn't given the #general channel

I didn't even notice there was a general channel, until a few days ago

Hd to double tap it to finally get in

[lean parcel]

Maybe you needed to put the ring on another finger...

[vivid root]

Lol

Finger maidens and then "laying" with fia to get the poise buff

[lofty charm]

i haven't gone into general chat in a while lol, it goes by too fast

[vivid root]

Miyazaki went the creepy ritualistic way with the lore there

[vivid root]

Exactly, now i don't even open it lol

[vivid root]

Uhhhhh, just checked my CE pre order details after someone talked abt their CE shipping details

Seems there's some problem

Now i have to get that sorted out and hope it doesn't delay the disk

😭

[lofty charm]

crossing my fingers that everything works out dude!!!

[vivid root]

Same here, otherwise I'm gonna order 2 of each edition and then sell them again

What have i become.....

[icy kernel]

when will the dark souls online servers start again?

after elden ring releases?

[lofty charm]

yep. idk the timeframe, don't even know if they gave one, all i know is they said after elden ring releases. so atleast 2 weeks

[lean parcel]

Never

[icy kernel]

kk

[gusty condor]

Yoo

[vivid root]

Yo

[lean parcel]

I just got the co-op role for the color

[vivid root]

!countdown

[coral swallow]

ELDEN RING is scheduled to launch on 25 February <t:1645747200:R> ⏳ Exact launch times will vary from platform to platform and region to region.

[lean parcel]

Eldumb cringe

[dreamy dew]

I have a i5-9400f and a 3060ti, will my cpu bottleneck my gpu?

[stable parrot]

there comes a time, where'st thou must fight for thy heir to thy throne and thust becometh the Elden Lord.

The time'th is almost'th here'th.

[vivid root]

Heir should be "right"

Otherwise maybe I'm dumb, but the meaning changes

[lofty charm]

nah, your right. unless your fighting for "your heir to your throne", in which case we are fighting for our children, and that makes the elden lord. somehow?

[vivid root]

Yeah, doesn't make sense

[lofty charm]

also, waaay to many 'th in that, in the wrong places.

might as well just say, "the moment is nigh upon us."

er, hold up, pretty sure i used that wrong

i'm half asleep

nope, i used it right

[vivid root]

Haha, archaic English does that

Never know which is which

[lofty charm]

lol true, but i got it right

i got into a hilarious "insult trade" with a friend of mine awhile back, called him a "vile curr", he was like, what? i'm like, "that's what i thought, knave, begone!"

[vivid root]

That's cur, with a single r, but you guys went Shakespearean in your smack talk huh

🤣🤣

[lofty charm]

ah, you right. and yes, lol, that's what happens when you play too much stronghold crusaders

start calling people Knave, and Infidel

[vivid root]

Most go hood, but it's funny so it's good

Oh i rhymed

[lofty charm]

lol nice

[vivid root]

But yeah, knave and infidel is the way to go in eldin ring

Lowly tarnished, i command thee, KNEEL

That line is just.....

Gave me the shivers

[lean parcel]

no

[lofty charm]

definitely

[hardy trench]

Just Curious Do anybody play keyboard and mouse? does playing with it make it hard for you or no (sorry for bad eng)

any souls game of course i see that most people are playing with controller even in pc so i just wanna know that is there a people who use keyboard and mouse and i just want to know whats the pro and cons of it

[lucid sky]

I finished all of DS3 with a mouse and keyboard on my first ever playthrough of any souls game. So it can be done quite easily if you're experienced with playing on it.

BUT controller works better. Things like switching weapons and items on the fly is a bit harder with mouse and keyboard because you need button combinations. Controller it's just d-pad.

The pro is that you can change camera angle faster on MKB, also aiming a bow, but those two things aren't important for this kind of game. It's not a shooter that needs quick reactions.

Controller has all the buttons mapped in such a way that it's fast and simple. Keyboard requires a bit more muscle memory but once you get it, it'll play fine.

Make sure to remap to your personal preferences. 🙂

[icy kernel]

im definitly going to try K&M if it works fine, has all key mapping also with icons and low latency... i dont mind playing with a K&M even though i have played other games with controller

[night sparrow]

Isn't placing trust or distrust in members of different races based on superficialities a recurring plotpoint in many high-fantasy settings? Especially if you make a race generally described as xenophobic, conservative and paternalistic look heterogenous with a woman in a position of power while also omitting the most important facial feature, it just looks wrong.

[hardy trench]

i also finished DS3 but within the first min when i first bought the game and played with MKB and i feel like this game dont really support the MKB(my personal experince) so i have controller ever since so this is just from my curiosity Thank you so much for your answer!

[lofty charm]

right, the second half of that i blanked on, i'm half asleep, but yes it is. elves for example, are often described as seclusive, and arrogant, and believing themselves as better than others

[lofty charm]

can you clarify the second half though, my half asleep brain isn't computing atm. though, we were told "these topics don't belong in this server", even though it's off-topic channel, so idk if we should continue

[hardy trench]

i recommend but in my personal experince i will not go back and try it again because MKB and souls game pissed me off and never again!

[night sparrow]

Ah, haven't seen that comment. Was just skimming through the past 500 messages^^'

[icy kernel]

ik ri8... the weapon switching with k&m is such a pain in a**... hold shift then scroll up or down...god daaam

[lofty charm]

lol no issue. it devolved into some dude calling me racist without reading, and me being "but your not reading?" and the mod told us to stop arguing. they also said it's not for this server. so, yeah probably best to just leave it.

[hardy trench]

i try remapping them but the feel and the vibe that it gives for me its just....no hell no

[icy kernel]

but i guess same is going to be the case in elden ring since Y is bein replaced with new jump now.. so even on controller u have to hold Y and then i guess its one of both triggers

[icy kernel]

yeh

[hardy trench]

the chaos of remapping keys

[icy kernel]

yeah

[hardy trench]

will shall be return

[icy kernel]

im glad i have a red gear controller... im planning to get an xbox 360 controller soon

[hardy trench]

i currently use logictech controller still XD

need and upgrade for wireless controller

[icy kernel]

nice.. thats some good old classic

[hardy trench]

if you have any suggestion i would like some

[icy kernel]

same bro

[icy kernel]

in terms of controllers.. xbox one is the win...

[lofty charm]

i'm rocking ps5 controller on my ps5. i enjoy it

[hardy trench]

do they have the flaws?

[icy kernel]

u could get the ps5 controller its also great but i would prefer xbox controller on pc coz the ps5 controller will work directly in elden ring if u try to play other games with ps5 controller i think u will have to map the keys first

[hardy trench]

i see that people have problem with connection with the controller

the controller tends to disconnect while playing

if that happens it will definitely pisses me off

[icy kernel]

thats y i said.. just get the xbox one controller.. its the best for Pc gaming

[hardy trench]

ok then if you suggest

[icy kernel]

i saw the minimum and recommended system requirements for ER and they dont seem to be high... like i have an amd ryzen 5 3500 and a 1060 6gb with 16gb ram

[lofty charm]

ah, i've had no issue with that, so i wouldn't know. it works fine for me, had zero issues so far

but i don't really know enough about controllers to know which is best for pc, so just ignore me lol

[icy kernel]

anyone here who played nioh games?

maan both the nioh games are hard as f, like sometimes i feel like our character is made of glass or what.. common enemies tend to finish of our character with 2 shots 😂

[vivid root]

I tried nioh when i got it on ps plus

But mehhh

Went back to dark souls

[icy kernel]

i found nioh 2 even more difficult than 1... i finished 1 like took me some 60 to 65hrs

for 2.. i still havent 😂 left the game after 70hrs... some level boss had me go crazy for weeks

[vivid root]

Didn't even get to nioh 2

I mean i can see myself getting into all the combat mechanics with stances and qi wave or whatever

But honestly, i just felt it wasn't worth it

Did pick up nioh 2 in a sale

Never will get into it i guess

[icy kernel]

though we used to get this like whole bunch of armors ands weapons and what not... my inventory used to be soo full had to sell some stuff more often

[lofty charm]

bruh, i got to the final level in nioh 1, and that room with like a dozen of the snake crystal boss dude, i gave up. was just ridiculous.

nioh 2 i ahven't gotten that far in, i keep getting distracted, really fun though

legit had no trouble through the entire game, then that one room just ate me alive.

[icy kernel]

yeah actually nioh games has irritated and frustrated me more than dark souls games tbh

[vivid root]

Yup yup exactly

Dark souls pays off the effort put in

[lofty charm]

i think it's mainly because, unlike dark souls, in nioh, learning the attack patterns doesn't really help, for quite a few enemies. a lot of the game is basically rng

[vivid root]

Maybe nioh pays off too, just too late for my taste

[icy kernel]

i mean the dark souls bosses like smogh and orenstein, manus are equally irritatting.. but still the whole level design of nioh games was just pain in the a** one small misstake and u r toast

[lofty charm]

it's fun, don't get me wrong, but it stacks itself too far against you. they tried to make it like dark souls, but overcompensated too much

[lofty charm]

exactly. not just level design, the bosses as well. many of them are just stupid lol

[icy kernel]

yeah... i remember nioh almost gave me a panic attack in most of its bosses 😂

[vivid root]

I gave up at the first mini boss i think

I don't even remember how far i got lol

[weary silo]

Some of the attacks in Nioh 2 are impossible to avoid without blocking

[weary silo]

Nioh 2? You're not supposed to fight the 1st miniboss, he's like the Asylum demon in ds

[vivid root]

Nioh

I just brought nioh 2,didn't even load it

[icy kernel]

the nioh 1 first tutorial area is so huge oh god 😂

it took me almost half an hour

[weary silo]

Oh idk about 1, heard it's shlt in comparison to 2

[vivid root]

Don't mean i brought it recently, i have no interest in the nioh series

[icy kernel]

yeah 2 is actually good and even more painfull 😂

[vivid root]

But couldn't resist the sale

[vivid root]

I heard the character creator in nioh 2 was awesome

The only reason i brought it, honestly

[icy kernel]

yeah it was...

[weary silo]

Character cration is nice. Combat is awesome. Everything else is poopoo

[icy kernel]

also u get to pick your starting weapons and starting spirit

[weary silo]

Like the different movesets and everything are great

[vivid root]

Oh yeah this i remember

[weary silo]

But the enemies are extremely repetitive and the level design is very meh

[vivid root]

The spirits were awesome

Felt real anime style

[icy kernel]

yeah ik rii

[weary silo]

Phantom type is the most anime

[icy kernel]

and in 2 there were like 3x more than nioh 1 😂

[vivid root]

I saw the trailers

The demon style awoke the black dragon sealed in my right arm.....

🤣

[icy kernel]

i used the those direct counter ones the most in which u directly block and enemy attack with hand slam

[weary silo]

Brute

[icy kernel]

ohh yeah those

[weary silo]

I found brute super lame tbh

[icy kernel]

forgot the names

[fossil remnant]

Has anyone here who has Covid have pain in legs

[weary silo]

I have neither

[vivid root]

Oof that's a bomb

And neither

Get help, dude

[fossil remnant]

Well it’s a ache nothing like I can’t walk

[icy kernel]

nope but speed recovery to you....

[weary silo]

Brute is red guy with club, Feral is blue guy with 2 daggers, phantom is fancy floating whatever anime thing that telekinetically controls a spinning twinblade

[vivid root]

Famous last words...

[icy kernel]

i found feral looked great actually... although i was using brute most times 😂 i tried switching but i wasnt able to time the counter with other types like i did with brute

[weary silo]

Thing about Brute is his counter is only good early game

[icy kernel]

yeah probably...

[weary silo]

There are some bosses that fly up and charge at you from the air for example

For those it's next to impossible to do a brute counter but a Feral/Phantom is very easy to time

[icy kernel]

hey do u remember that one boss fight in nioh 1 after the story was completed there was this new boss fight where u have to fight the ice lady and that samurai dude both at the same time... that fight i still havent beaten till this date... thats the boss y i quit playing nioh 1 although i had completed the main story

[weary silo]

Haven't played 1

[icy kernel]

nioh has this tendency to create new boss fight by mixing 2 other bosses 😂

when i saw that for the first time.. i was like.. ohk.. im gonna die in less than 5 sec 🤣

[lofty charm]

bruh, nioh 2 had jiggle physics, and a boob slider. nuff said

[icy kernel]

🤣

[weary silo]

Wait, it did?

Damn, should have made a female character

[lofty charm]

yes. you could make them as big as your head, and they bounced.

[vivid root]

All the games these days have jiggle physics

Ohh, that must've been a sight

[lofty charm]

was hilarious, the females in that were essentially anime girls

[vivid root]

🤣

[lofty charm]

i obviously made a female with a scythe for my first character haha

[icy kernel]

its like we didnt have any more problems completing the level and they add just more distraction huh

[vivid root]

Even genshin impact does it lol

[lofty charm]

lol, " female character selected, secret hard mode activated, no pun intended"

[vivid root]

Real weird

[icy kernel]

🤣

[lofty charm]

lol as i was typing that i realised the pun

[icy kernel]

hahah

[vivid root]

Maybe that's why From doesn't do that lol

[weary silo]

In Nioh 2 I just made my guy have blue Goku hair

And gave him a golden monocle

[vivid root]

No need to make it harder when the game already fucs us over

[weary silo]

The monocle was the absolute best thing

[icy kernel]

yesh i remember only other game which had jiggle physics that i have played recently i guess saints row 3 or 4 😂😂

daam i spent litearly 2 hours on character creation

[icy kernel]

exactly

[vivid root]

The demon souls remake char creation was good

All the features were reaaaaaall smooth

[icy kernel]

maan i want to play it so baad but to play it i need a ps5 🥲

[vivid root]

At least the best in what I've played

Hah

Tremble before me mortal

Cuz i was deemed worthy

I was... CHOSEN

[icy kernel]

i have heard that they are also porting bloodborne for pc

maan if that game comes to pc ill be so happy 🙌

[vivid root]

It definitely should

[icy kernel]

[vivid root]

Locking games behind platforms just grinds my gears

I understand the reasons, competition and all

But still, ain't fair

[icy kernel]

i remember playing ds2 scholar of first sin first time like years ago.. at that time i didnt know ds2 and sofs are different i thought it was just some new dlc or like that.. but then i got to know that they improved some graphics and also changed the enemy position to make it even more hard

[icy kernel]

yeah

[calm siren]

mod moment

[vivid root]

Why?

[frail basin]

discord mods PepeLa

[calm siren]

first time i saw a mod point someone to offtopic in this server

[limber quarry]

kek

[calm siren]

people, play bb psx you wont regret

[safe parrot]

I saw a post on FB saying there’s no Enchanted Or Bloody Wolf class, anyone else see anything like that?

[icy kernel]

nooooo.. i want the enchanted class 🥲

[limber quarry]

What if
I will regret

[lofty charm]

it's pretty fun

[limber quarry]

On the positive side the new classes look pretty cool too

[lofty charm]

as if it needed it, ds2, as fun as it was, had so much more forced difficulty than the others. the main difficulty of 2, is just numbers, and the jankiness

[icy kernel]

yeah i know i guess they have revealed like what 6 classes only ri8

there are still 4 remaining

[lofty charm]

yeah, those two aren't starting classes.

[icy kernel]

i actially find 2 pretty easy than ds 1 and 3

[limber quarry]

The ones remaining I think are Prophet, Wretch, Confessor and Samurai if I remember correctly

[icy kernel]

may be becoz of those lots of life gems and all

[lofty charm]

oh it is, it's just that the "difficulty" is due to numbers. it's lame. once you understand kiting and the enemy placement, the entire game becomes trivial for a from game lol

[vivid root]

I think just the names changed ryt??

[safe parrot]

Ugh that sucks I really wanted to be the bloody wolf class

[lofty charm]

nope, the gear is different as well

[vivid root]

Ohhhh

[icy kernel]

i was planning to use enhanced knight so that i could have both magic and melee build ri8 at start pretty balanced

[lofty charm]

you can still find the armor, it's just not a starter thing

[limber quarry]

You get a maximum of 20 estus in ds1 tho
Idk, there are only certain really frustrating parts in ds1 imo

[vivid root]

Exactly, bloody wolf is so damn cool

[lofty charm]

yep, those were all really strong, because it was a network test, they gave people a lot of power to make it easy to get through it

[limber quarry]

the prisoner starts with those kind of stats now

[lofty charm]

yeha, prisoner has similar starting stats, it's dex and int build

[icy kernel]

ds 1 those cursed lizards are so daam creepy... i remember seeing them for first time i was like.. Nope
. not gonna fight them.. they look already way creeepy

[vivid root]

Yeah, dex and int build is best for jack of all trades kind of build ryt?

[lofty charm]

the basilisk? that spit fog?

[vivid root]

Guess this goes in the build channel

[icy kernel]

yeah

[lofty charm]

yeah, they are low health though

[limber quarry]

Those suck but they die in like one hit too

[lofty charm]

i mean, depends on what you mean. real jack of all trades, is all stats. quality is strength and dex. all magic, is faith int and arcane

[icy kernel]

i know they are easy to kill just looking at them gives me chills u know 😂

[vivid root]

They are easy

But the first time

That curse meter builds up so damn fast

And boom... It's instant death

[icy kernel]

all the previews of final build have already said that they have nerfed both the magic damage and summons damage

[icy kernel]

the main issue ik

[lofty charm]

lol speaking of || instant death will be a brutal status effect.||

[limber quarry]

I think on my first playthrough I managed to not get cursed by them so I was blissfully unaware of the horrifying consequences

[lofty charm]

well, the summons early on are weaker overall, and the early magic is'nt that op stuff you had. idk if they lowered damage, or tweaked stats, but it's likely, yeah

[vivid root]

I got cursed in the sewers

And i was at a dead end

[icy kernel]

i think getting cursed is dark souls version of getting terrified like like bloodborne

[vivid root]

Was rolling against the bars lol

[limber quarry]

But then on subsequent playthroughs it happened so many times

[lofty charm]

same. i later on just let it fill, and was like, "oh. well thats bad."

[lofty charm]

frenzied, but yeah

[icy kernel]

ohh yeah that

[safe parrot]

Well maybe it’s for the best, work up to get the armor

[limber quarry]

The one thing that always gets me is that stupid elevator from blighttown

[lofty charm]

yep. that, and all the other cool armors we'll find

[lofty charm]

the wheel?

[limber quarry]

Yeah

[safe parrot]

Yeah

[vivid root]

Ehh I'm not the feel worthy of i get it after working kinda guy

[icy kernel]

boy dont even start that area gives me nightmares till this date

[vivid root]

🤣

[lofty charm]

lol, love that thing. did you know that in the middle of it, is a fire dog, which is walking to keep it moving?

[safe parrot]

I wonder what class would be closest to bloody wolf, maybe vagabond?

[limber quarry]

Yeah I do
My problem is that I have trouble getting off it without falling to my death, then I overthink it and do even worse

[icy kernel]

yes

[vivid root]

My problem was going back to quelaag

[icy kernel]

vegabond will be like ER version of knight

[vivid root]

And i didn't know about the bonfire at the base

[lofty charm]

yeha, vagabond is the bloody wolf equivalent

[safe parrot]

Nice

[lofty charm]

oof.

[vivid root]

Vagabond it is then

[safe parrot]

Vagabond kinda reminds me of bezerk

[lofty charm]

i'm rocking astronomer. pure int build here i come, i will find the moonlight greatsword.

[lofty charm]

can't wait to find the artorias equivalent.

[icy kernel]

for this game im planning to go with a mix build like intelli and strength coz all the other ds games.. i always used to start with pure strength build

[lofty charm]

i did as well, i'm going pure int this time first char

[limber quarry]

I already have so many builds I wanna try, I think Ill have created minimum 3 characters by the time I finally have to sleep after my first 16 hour play session

[vivid root]

Will go for whatever strikes my fancy at the moment i guess

[vivid root]

This, definitely.

A pure magic build will be a go-to for everyone i think

The spell previews are beautiful

[icy kernel]

the only down fall i think to magic build will be they take a lot of damage i think

[limber quarry]

I'll do a schierke cosplay from berserk as a pure magic build but my "main" for my first run will be an ooga booga strength build

[vivid root]

Forgot the n's

[icy kernel]

and now in ER having points in strength directly affects your equid load...

[lofty charm]

true, but with the sheer variety they have this time, it'll be unpredictable as f-

[lofty charm]

also, i'm definitely making a build entirely around dual wielding reapers(scythes)

[vivid root]

And don't forget your faithful sherpa steed Torrent

[limber quarry]

If theyre stronger this time as well a magic class cannon will be lethal

[icy kernel]

yeah i want to try that too

[lofty charm]

dude, sneak attack kamehameha while invading.

[vivid root]

Twinsword was cool

Didn't see the scythes in action

[limber quarry]

I cherish the one time I managed to one shot someone with the kamehameha from distance in ds3, they took the full hit

[icy kernel]

man they should have let us ride our torrent while pvp it could be soo much more fun... fighting on torrent

[vivid root]

But scythes themselves are cool

[icy kernel]

yeah that weapon in network test destroyed everything

[vivid root]

Honestly, would've taken ages lol

Keep on missing, and getting a hit only out of luck

[limber quarry]

Maybe theyll include a smaller jousting arena where we cant run away

like the regular pvp arena except for jousting

[wet hull]

Do u want funny leaks of them or nah

[vivid root]

Oh i want

Anything to get my Elden ring fix lol

[icy kernel]

i have started playing ds3 again... just trying out my regular old strength build... just defeated rotted cursed, on my way to road of sacrifies

[vivid root]

I had a dream

Of platinum-ing all souls games

Did sekiro and bloodborne pretty easily

[icy kernel]

i have heard its quite a chore

[vivid root]

Then i started dark souls

And the all rings, all miracles and so on trophies killed my dream

[vivid root]

A terribly long one

[lofty charm]

lol. i have ds1, ds3, and bloodborne plat. i'm close on demons souls, but don't really feel like it. ds2 and sekiro i don't feel like it either

ds1, ds3, and bloodborne, were each only like 3 days on a fresh character, to plat.

[vivid root]

Ughh

What can i say, i got the attention span of a new born baby

[small swift]

Elden Ring coming soon

[vivid root]

!countdown

[coral swallow]

ELDEN RING is scheduled to launch on 25 February <t:1645747200:R> ⏳ Exact launch times will vary from platform to platform and region to region.

[limber quarry]

13 sleeps

12 for americans that plan to play at the midnight release on steam

but itll be 8am here

12 days 14 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds

[grand hearth]

I know that we still don't know requirements, but I have really old PC, made for Witcher 3 on medium settings... With GTX 750 Ti. This card is truly amazing and still can even run Sekiro on high or AC: Odyssey on low/medium.... But I think I have to change it for ER...
So please guys, help... Which GPU of these 2 is better?
RX 5500 XT OC 4GB or GTX 1060 WF OC 3GB ???

Both have almost the same price

[limber quarry]

They're pretty equal. Buying used?

[grand hearth]

Don't know if it's good idea to buy used

[limber quarry]

Depends on the price

[grand hearth]

If they're equal, then price is ok for both. Thank you! 🙂

around 220$, at least here in Poland

[glass turtle]

İ had this question in my mind for some time. In Bandai Namco EU site it says a steelbook is included but the other sites doent have this. Does anyone know if the other sites will send a steelbook too?

[limber quarry]

Not bad honestly, in this market at least. As long as you trust the seller.

[grand hearth]

Yeah, this is price in normal store with hardware

Still quite expensive, at least for me... But well, don't know if my good old 750 Ti could run ER even on low xD

[limber quarry]

Wait youre buying from a store? Those gpus havent been available in a long time here

[grand hearth]

Yeah, online hardware store, X-kom

Maybe I should buy used one

much cheaper

[limber quarry]

I envy your prices

[grand hearth]

well, we have terrible inflation now

everything is expensive as fck

[icy kernel]

its better u atleast get a 1650ti

never know

[limber quarry]

Well I suppose

a 1060 3gb isnt far off from a 1650ti

[grand hearth]

Yes, but it's far too expensive for me

[icy kernel]

i have 1060 6gb since 4 years

and its still such a great card

[limber quarry]

Yeah it has aged well

[grand hearth]

well, my 750 Ti oficially is way too slow for AC: Odyssey on minimal, but I've run it on low/medium settings.. xD

and to be honest, AC:O looks much better than ER

[icy kernel]

i think u might have ran it on 720p?

or 1080p?

[grand hearth]

1080

[north vector]

I'm currently sitting in front of my oven, waiting for my blackberry muffins to be done

[icy kernel]

nicee

[limber quarry]

Ac odyssey is much worse optimized than fromsoft games usually , but we dont know about elden ring yet

[grand hearth]

So I still believe in this card I have, but if it failed for ER, I'm going to buy better card x

[icy kernel]

750 was the best budget graphics card back those days tbh

when rtx was not even a thing 😂

[grand hearth]

I want to play ER in any way, even on lowest settings and with 18 fps xD

as everyone

[icy kernel]

that might work for pve.. but u might not wanna go pvp with 20fps 😂

[tulip gust]

@elder badge playanywhere/steam link enables you to play your steam games on mobile

[grand hearth]

well, I've never played pvp in souls 😉

so can handle it

[elder badge]

I have a friend that played doom eternal at 15fps and told me it was playable 🗿

[icy kernel]

y?

[grand hearth]

omg nice

[icy kernel]

u should.. its really fun

[limber quarry]

Anything is playable if you believe enough

[grand hearth]

Maybe not never xD But almost never

[elder badge]

Yeah but isn't that streaming and not playing natively?

[tulip gust]

i played the first half life at 12fps like 23years ago on a pentium2 and a 320*140 resolution or smthg lol

[icy kernel]

also cannot wait for 19th feb.. we are gonna get even more gameplays 🙌

[elder badge]

good times when we didn't care about performance

[tulip gust]

i did

my voodoo card just burned a little earlier and i wanted to play

[icy kernel]

i remember playing assassins creed brotherhood on my old toshiba laptop which had pentium in it 😂.. it ran it like on less that 20fps but still completed the whole game... dedication lvl 99999

[tulip gust]

like literally burning

[grand hearth]

I can't believe that ER will be more demanding than Odyssey

Just... how?

[limber quarry]

As a kid I played the cod mw trilogy on a pentium igpu as well... honestly, it was a slideshow for the last two

[icy kernel]

i dont think so

[limber quarry]

I doubt it actually will, we dont know yet and the weird requirements yesterday are probably not the real minimums

[elder badge]

I doubt it

[limber quarry]

ubisoft is horrible with optimization

[icy kernel]

yes indeed

[tulip gust]

actually not true

far cry 6 runs quite good

[icy kernel]

to this day far cry new dawn runs like crap on my system

[elder badge]

Odyssey pc port wasn't the best but far cry 6 and others are just fine

[limber quarry]

Fair, tbh the last ubisoft game I have played was Odyssey and before that it was assassins creed black flag and rogue

[icy kernel]

im waiting for fc6 to come on steam then ill buy it on summer sale or winter sale

[limber quarry]

Havent played a single far cry

[tulip gust]

bad

[icy kernel]

i liked origins more than odyessy.. just the story i mean..odyessy had better gameplay mechanics

[elder badge]

Nice, I would have waited for a sale if I knew that I wouldn't like far cry 6 lol.

It's not bad, im just tired of the go clear camps and shoot ppl cycle.

[tulip gust]

i dont like the new creeds tbh

[limber quarry]

Yeah odyssey felt very cliche

[icy kernel]

valhala dissapointed me so much.. like i got bored playing it after 30hrs

[elder badge]

I loved AC up till origins, I really don't like the rpg leveling system

[limber quarry]

Yeah thats bull

[tulip gust]

i left the creeds with odysee, i really couldnt finish it, its not ac anymore, its full of effing fanservice and holy cow its boring

[limber quarry]

I dont like how they pretend to still have some actual assassins creed stuff in the new games when they're clearly just milking a dead series

Just take the animus whatever stuff out and call it history simulator

Assassin's Creed died with Desmond to me

Black flag was a great game but I didnt like the out of animus and other typical AC elements in that game either anymore

[tulip gust]

i liked black flag, it was complete

the compagnion app was also quite nice, the whole fleet thing was interesting

[lucid sky]

Oof same. I actually enjoy the AC series as a whole even with its repetitiveness but that game took it to an extreme

[grand hearth]

Guys, you gave me hope 😆 ❤️

750Ti defies the laws of physics

[limber quarry]

I mean I certainly wouldnt want to play it on a 750ti but if youre willing to sacrifice the graphics and fps you might be able to play it

[icy kernel]

yeah but i would prefer or advice to get a good gpu so that u can experience this new awesome game to its fullest

[tulip gust]

imagine able to get gpus

[grand hearth]

I know guys... I'd love to, but have no money for this ;/ if I can save money and keep playing the game then I can make sacrifices

and play with better graphics next time, when I get richer

still going to get second 8gb RAM, it can help with FPS when they're bad

[elder badge]

If I was rich like Jeff bezos I would have bought u a 3090 cause u seem cool :'(

[icy kernel]

yeah good that will actually help u get 5 to 10 more fps may be

[icy kernel]

i would have just build him a whole pc with 3090, 2tb ssd, 32gb ram and amd ryzen which ever is the best cpu ri8 now 😂

[grand hearth]

🥺 🥺 🥺 thank you

[grand hearth]

Hahahh you're too kind, mr. Bezos 😆

[small jungle]

Just hung my Masters degree certificate up on the wall 🥰

Feeling proud

[elder badge]

Congrats my brother, happy for you.

[small jungle]

Tysm 🙏

[grand hearth]

Nice!!! 🙂 You get gud I see

[small jungle]

😄

[icy kernel]

yooo congrats....

[small jungle]

Ty! ❤️

[icy kernel]

can someone suggest me some good netflix shows

like mystery/thriller or good high school drama kind of

[night sparrow]

Congratulations!

[grand hearth]

Locke & Key maybe?

[small jungle]

Ty! 🥰

[grand hearth]

2 seasons, a lot of mysteries and it's thriller at some parts

[icy kernel]

watched

ill say what all i have watched

13 reason y, vampire diaries, elite, riverdale

stranger things

[round path]

random topic: music
what music genre do you guys listen to

[blissful harness]

Ever listen to Boards of Canada

[charred river]

Hi everyone, first i would like to apologize for my english, im not very good writing but ill try my best on this message.

Recently From Software posted the final minum specifications for Elden Ring and im afraid i couldn't play it.

My best friend bought me a key for my birthday and i feel kinda bad for this.

I would like to know if someone here know a bit of this term, and inform myself if i could play it with a good framerate.

These are my specefications:
GPU: Nvidia GeForce 1050TI 4GB
CPU: i5 7400
RAM: 16 GB

I really would like this game but unfortunately my economic situation is complicated and i do not know where i can find GPUs with moderate prices.

Thank you.

[blissful harness]

We don't know if that was min that was prob recommended can't think why minimum requires 12gb of ram that's insane

[charred river]

Yes, it requires 12 of RAM and a GeForce 1060

[blissful harness]

Are the specs still there cause they deleted them when I checked last night

[charred river]

Ive been searching some info and thats what i saw

[blissful harness]

Those aren't the specs then. If it's not on steam it's not gonna be somewhere else

I strongly feel those are recommended I wouldn't worry much if you can run ds3 you can run elden ring is my belief

[lean parcel]

Congrats!! 😊

[small jungle]

Thank you! ❤️

[lean parcel]

I should spend more time in this channel, I forgot it was here

New home

[elder dust]

ayo i've got a question to someone who was there when dark souls 3 was fully new (fresh release). Back then, did fromsoft offer any edition that included a season pass for the future dlc's or did they just add a season pass much later when the dlcs were announced ? Because right now i'm assuming there wont be any elden ring dlcs since there is no season pass or anything in the bigger preorder editions. Does anyone know how it was back then with ds3?

[charred river]

Ty so much for your answer, you made me recover a little of hope XD

[blissful harness]

@charred river yw don't worry we will all be able to play just half to wait a lil longer

[charred river]

If i keep waiting for Silksong i can wait for that

i guess

[north vector]

I got Horizon Zero Dawn Platin :)

[candid estuary]

Has

IGN smashed there heads against the walk again

[vocal flume]

who else is gonna try the evil dead game? i know i am

[hollow current]

I wonder how fast game journalists are gonna rate elden ring a 1 star

[lean parcel]

Elden Ring is the next Sekiro!
Are the camps too hard?

[hollow current]

Sekiro wasnt that hard tbh

its literally a rythm game

[vivid quarry]

congrats @small jungle!

[vivid quarry]

Chloi Rad reviewed Dark Souls 3 for IGN and gave it a 9.5, and everyone seems to be loving Elden Ring in the previews so far.

[north vector]

YEEEY congrats 🎉

[hollow current]

Thank god

Have the reviewers started accepting their skill issues and started judging games fairly?

[vivid quarry]

puzzled by this persistent idea that Souls games have ever not been judged fairly

[crystal mango]

just beat sekiro

colossal W

[hollow current]

There are a lot of bad reviews on souls games

[north vector]

So with every other games

[hollow current]

People crying about dying to overpowered bosses etc

[hollow current]

but that point of the game is dying to hard bosses

[north vector]

Not every game is suited for everyone

[lean parcel]

congrats

[vivid quarry]

The critical consensus on every Souls game since the first Dark Souls is that they're masterpieces. Critics love Souls games.

[vivid root]

Yeah

I don't think there are major reviewers who react negatively to the difficulty?

[north vector]

A lot of people enjoyed FF7 remake, I don't so my review would be negative, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game

[vivid root]

At this point, From games being hard is a Fact

[lean parcel]

what, whats ff7

[north vector]

Final Fantasy 7

[lean parcel]

oh

[somber sedge]

I'm so proud of you!!! Amazing Job man!! <33

[vivid root]

Anyone who ordered a physical edition from the Bandai Namco store

Have you guys been charged on your card for the purchase yet?

[lean parcel]

A masters degree in what?

[lean parcel]

Congrats! 😊 i got it for base game and dlc but i'm still missing the ng+ and hard mode trophy

[woeful egret]

A major congratulations to you ✊

[pliant rose]

🎉

[proper grove]

Congrats! Celebrate by pre-ordering Elden Ring 😄

[small jungle]

Ahh I missed so many messages ;_; Thank you so much everyone 🫂 🥰

[lean parcel]

Lads

I’ve done it

Share with us this good news

Should I preorder for ps4 or ps5?

I plan on getting a ps5 later down the line but have a ps4 now

You get both versions either way

Physical copy

[crimson drift]

ye

[lean parcel]

Just get ps4 version then. Once you get ps5 you'll be able to upgrade to ps5 version via the disc

I see

Just to clarify, ps4 disk can go into the ps5 to upgrade it, yea?

Correct

Thank you my friending

Of course, just make sure that well. You have a disc ps5 lol

[wide radish]

Will there be a lfg discord? I wanna play co op when it releases

[blissful parcel]

i dont know what game to play while waiting for elden rung

no new games

[wide radish]

Destiny 2 or blood borne for me

[blissful parcel]

i quit d2

terrible game

[wide radish]

Why

[blissful parcel]

its so dry

and too grindy

[wide radish]

When did u wuit

[blissful parcel]

huh

[wide radish]

When

Did u quit