general-discussion

[weary flicker]

no but like, okay your village got massacred, not that big a deal in soulsborne universe, but the hornsent whipping you and making you a meat monster in a jar was much worse

[winged obsidian]

"get in the jar shinji"

[kind mountain]

As a Hong Konger myself, I did not like Hong Kong personally

[narrow orbit]

Not actions that warrant genocide though

[green yew]

Who needs help?
I finished this game 7 times

[winged obsidian]

tried to learn Cantonese, it's hard. the swear words are fun though

[mighty fractal]

:c why

my hong kong

[narrow orbit]

Try a co op chat maybe

[kind mountain]

You’ll understand when your older 🫩

[mighty fractal]

...why man

[weary flicker]

also the divine beast dancing lion bossfight was sooooo good

[kind mountain]

But for now just have as much fun as you can

[weary flicker]

legit got chills when the 3rd phase and ost synced up

[winged obsidian]

dancing lion is a pretty decent fight held back by the camera lol

but it's actually kinda fun with ranged weapons

[mighty fractal]

You say that as if I were going to die. x _ x

[fossil raptor]

ngl true

[thin ice]

just discovred sacred relic sword AoW obliterates niall's soldiers even with just minimum stats, just +9

[weary flicker]

im just happy they didnt go the fallingstar beast route and make everything a hitbox

[kind mountain]

😭 no not that deep, just saying people your age should have fun

[weary flicker]

i hate the fallingstar beast sm

[green halo]

where is the isolated divine tower

[winged obsidian]

fallingstar beast is a boss alright

[mighty fractal]

liar lawe

[weary flicker]

not alright

[inner gyro]

Nobody goes to Arby’s for their roast beef sandwiches. If you do, you’re a sick individual. Arby’s has other options, but even then those options are pretty mediocre at best.

[weary flicker]

i prefer 1000 astels over that

[kind mountain]

Your probably gonna do fine anyway your English is pretty good for your age

[narrow orbit]

You know that place in Leyndell you can access from the weeping peninsula? With the Guardian Golem and the teleporter? Take that portal and you'll get there

[mighty fractal]

Dude, I use a translator.

[winged obsidian]

does age affect language skills? I mean isn't it easier to learn new language when you're young

[fossil raptor]

nah it's super complicated tbh, not just age thing

[kind mountain]

Well time to learn English!!

[winged obsidian]

cause the brain is nice and soft

like wet clay, ready to be molded

[fossil raptor]

but yeah it is easier younger

[mighty fractal]

my english is elite

[sour lagoon]

Me realizing I haven’t ate in 24 hrs

[kind mountain]

Good enough!

[winged obsidian]

yes

[sour lagoon]

It’s ok

[fossil raptor]

i once learned a language in 24 hours

[fossil raptor]

kinda vague?

[sour lagoon]

Damn I wish I’d done that

[fossil raptor]

yk which one?

it was python

[mighty fractal]

I will try to write in English without a translator in the next messages.

[winged obsidian]

i never learned Korean as a child and that sucks

[sour lagoon]

Nice

[weary flicker]

i also think people hate the frenzied flame ending too much, the lands between is an awful awful place

[raven fern]

I learned Spanish and didn’t use it for 20 years so I forgot

[kind mountain]

[winged obsidian]

frenzied flame ending is even worse

[sour lagoon]

I tried learning French once and I learned a bit of Spanish that I forgot

French isn’t too hard

[winged obsidian]

it's a world free of pain on a technicality

[weary flicker]

everyone just dies in body and soul

its a utilitarian net good

[narrow orbit]

The frenzied flame ending ends all life
Everywhere, not just the lands between which also includes a bunch of innocent lifeforms

[winged obsidian]

"nobody can feel pain if there's nobody around" so essentially a wasteland devoid of life

[weary flicker]

it isn't a matter of innocence

[fossil raptor]

ain't no way that's the whole take

[narrow orbit]

The point of the frenzied flame is to melt the world back into a singularity

[winged obsidian]

are lifeless wastelands free of pain? yes, technically.

nobody's suffering on Mercury

[kind mountain]

High card

[weary flicker]

i'd rather have no people alive than like 10k people suffering for all eternity

[winged obsidian]

I prefer pair myself

[chilly agate]

see this is why the dung eater ending is the best one

[runic yacht]

Honestly, not enough Placidusax hate going on in here...

[kind mountain]

True!

[winged obsidian]

is that you bayle?

[kind mountain]

What did bro even do

[narrow orbit]

I'd rather have 10k people suffer than kill billions

[runic yacht]

Might as well be

[chilly agate]

Yo he's a chill guy, just in the middle of a tornado doing nothing

[weary flicker]

extrapolating from the lands between I don't think the other places are that much better tbh

[winged obsidian]

do you damn him for his crimes against your bloodline?

[fossil raptor]

idk man, ain't even sure who ur takling about

[chilly agate]

100%

[narrow orbit]

The real world we live in isn't much better
Doesn't mean we have to burn it

[runic yacht]

Complete coward that spams teleportation, flying and nuke to the point where I couldn't hit him for 2 min straight

[weary flicker]

the world we live in is at least 10 million times better than soulsborne settings

[kind mountain]

I thought lore wise but ok 😭

[winged obsidian]

when you only see misery it's easy to view that as the only outcome; but it is possible to have a world if not devoid of suffering, then one that isn't as prone to it

[mighty fractal]

i learned all my english playing minecraft

[winged obsidian]

eh maybe like 65% better?

[weary flicker]

idk man the npcs i help out either die or turn into sorcerer balls

[winged obsidian]

we don't have endless death loops at least, not yet

[kind mountain]

Good just like me when I was young, I’d watch Minecraft YouTubers

[mighty fractal]

minecraft was my teacher, it was the real english course

[winged obsidian]

Sellen had it coming

[hard dove]

I lit just downed an entire thing of peanut butter and now my farts stink like hell bro

[sour lagoon]

Guys is spaghetti what I want for dinner

[fossil raptor]

lmao just pasta then?

[sour lagoon]

I haven’t ate since this time yesterday

[winged obsidian]

I've met at least 3 people who learned English from Minecraft lmao

[kind mountain]

If you have to think about it then no

[raven fern]

I like this song

[runic yacht]

3rd worst boss fight in the entire game including the DLC

[weary flicker]

i meant people aren't getting tortured to death in the irithyll dungeons or something

[mighty fractal]

i learned english by trying to understand the letters

[timid echo]

Hendryx

[winged obsidian]

people get tortured to death all the time IRL

[fossil raptor]

omg seriously

[mighty fractal]

minecraft sensei 🙇‍♀️

[winged obsidian]

yes auto correct I definitely meant learn

[fossil raptor]

oh thats sus auto correct again

[weary flicker]

percentage wise it's much much lower in irl

[raven fern]

Jimmy Hindrick

[sour lagoon]

And meat

[sour lagoon]

I need suggestions

[kind mountain]

He was fine for me but the laser beam could be a pain in the ahh

[winged obsidian]

to be fair it has a lot of things you encounter in real life in it

[sour lagoon]

What is everyone craving right now

[narrow orbit]

The issues explored in Elden Ring also stem from real life concepts
Discrimination, hatred, systematic death, conceit, corruption, depravity, exclusion, tyranny, war. You can say it's not as dramatic but these things definitely exist
And yet life endures. It's been much worse, it will be much worse again but we are still here. And we will continue to be here

[winged obsidian]

it's actually probably greater, hate to say

[atomic tapir]

@celest remnant 1478135327116886149
Bot/scam

[raven fern]

A.B.A

[kind mountain]

Ranga

[sour lagoon]

What is that

[atomic tapir]

Wagwan

[sour lagoon]

What is ranga

[atomic tapir]

Y u craving me 😭😭

[raven fern]

search “aba ggst”

[fossil raptor]

well well well if it isnt mario

what is different about you?

[winged obsidian]

A.B.A mains when their crash out mode is recovering

[chilly agate]

mustache-less mario at that

[kind mountain]

[runic yacht]

I got one shot by a laser as he was low health

[green halo]

thx

[raven fern]

wonderful nerfs to break my soul

[winged obsidian]

well see now you gotta reveal your vigor

[weary flicker]

the forms in which these concepts manifest themselves physically is very different.

[weary flicker]

its not lol

[kind mountain]

Yea that happened to me a few times too lol

[mighty fractal]

minecraft >> my real life

[runic yacht]

Ngl my whole build was trash. Doesn't make him any less of a coward

[winged obsidian]

there's 8 billion humans on earth, it is based solely on sheer numbers

[raven fern]

Super Mario in real life
Spaghetti!!!!

[winged obsidian]

most of the world of elden ring and dark souls is like, medieval at best and doesn't seem to support as dense a population as ours

[runic yacht]

At least he's better than Rykard

[kind mountain]

Mario’s fav food is pizza

[chilly agate]

i got 1-shot by that laser with 40 vig at almost max hp 😔

[sour lagoon]

Does anyone know a time traveler per chance

[raven fern]

Nice of Princess peach to invite us to a picnic, Gay Luigi?

[winged obsidian]

Rykkard with the spear is one of the easier fights tbh

[weary flicker]

i said percentage wise, but even in a medieval or early modern setting i'd say a lot more people get tortured than in irl based off of pure numbers

[sour lagoon]

Asking for a friend

[chilly agate]

@vocal coyote

[kind mountain]

Rykard only had one bs move, and it was the ground lifting magma attack

[mighty fractal]

@kind mountain I think it would be funny if I sent an audio message here in this chat and people could hear me talking.

[runic yacht]

Ion remember my number but it was pretty bogus

[atomic tapir]

I’ve told you too many times Meg. Stop using that name

[kind mountain]

I don’t even think you can

[atomic tapir]

You brought this upon yourself

[winged obsidian]

you'd be incorrect then, governments and organized criminals do it all the time still to this day

[raven fern]

I hope she made lots of Spaghetti!!

[neon umbra]

[winged obsidian]

8 billion is a huge number of people

[atomic tapir]

Nah

[fossil raptor]

huh idk tbh, just a lot of people

[mighty fractal]

I can't send audio

[kind mountain]

Also you’d get kicked for being too young @mighty fractal

[runic yacht]

When he was spitting lava that was pretty bs too

[atomic tapir]

8.0001 billion however, mind blowing

[winged obsidian]

rain of skulls is pretty bs too

[sour lagoon]

Why did megidola get booted

[chilly agate]

thats barely anybody, i could fit that amount in my pocket

[mighty fractal]

x _ x

[weary flicker]

i dont think that's comparable to a world in which everyone tortures each other

[mighty fractal]

man i am elden ring

[kind mountain]

I just kept circling him so it wasn’t much of a problem to me

[chilly agate]

hi john elden ring

[mighty fractal]

I can't be expelled because I am simply the Elden Ring.

kicked

[kind mountain]

[atomic tapir]

I didn’t realise logic wasn’t online

Uhhhh

[kind mountain]

Let my Unc rest

[weary flicker]

the biggest city in elden ring has a 500m deep torture dungeon beneath it

[mighty fractal]

yo yo

[runic yacht]

Worst boss in the game is Sir Gideon. Ion care how easy he is- I can never respect a running spell spammer

[chilly agate]

so... when is elden ring 2 releasing

[fossil raptor]

lol running spell spammers are always the worst though 🙄

[atomic tapir]

Nah

[kind mountain]

True!

[mighty fractal]

It's me, only stronger.

[kind mountain]

Isn’t he 50 or something

[winged obsidian]

the same things exist IRL as well except they're not usually that deep underground and are often bigger

and public

[chilly agate]

lyndell is such a chill place fr

[atomic tapir]

52

[kind mountain]

Don’t you have school in 7:25

[raven fern]

how many states are in the United States?

[kind mountain]

Bro older than my parents

[runic yacht]

The only credit I can give Gideon is that he's somehow better than Micolash from Bloodborne

[mighty fractal]

ya

[chilly agate]

Bro's age is a number

[weary flicker]

there arent 500 meter tall torture dungeons irl

[mighty fractal]

I'm going at 7:40

[kind mountain]

Won’t you be late

[winged obsidian]

yeah cause we're more efficient about the architecture lol

[mighty fractal]

NOOO

[atomic tapir]

<@&910556792730292286> 1478135327116886149 scam/bot dmed me like 30 times. Deleted the chat but I have a ss I can’t send in server if you want it

[raven fern]

Fax

[atomic tapir]

Correct indeed

[atomic tapir]

Thanks Meg

[raven fern]

you’re welcome

[mighty fractal]

The school is three blocks away from my house.

[weary flicker]

there is no institutionalized torture irl that's comparable to elden ring

[kind mountain]

I thought you have to arrive at 7:25

[weary flicker]

aside from solitary confinement probably

[mighty fractal]

@raven fern meg deltarune

[winged obsidian]

you gotta read more history books friend

[raven fern]

is it on sale yet

[velvet canopy]

send

[mighty fractal]

I need to wait for my father to take me to school by car.

[weary flicker]

i'm talking about today

[winged obsidian]

yeah even today

[kind mountain]

Nice

[weary flicker]

name one please

[raven fern]

Zato

[mighty fractal]

:c

[raven fern]

Welp there’s your answer

[winged obsidian]

Guantanamo

[steep moss]

rivals new pve mode kinda bangs

[raven fern]

I can send you a screenshot of me owning it so you can act like that’s you

[winged obsidian]

even if I couldn't I mean... I could just Google a few

[kind mountain]

Rivals as in marvel rivals?

[vagrant pecan]

can any one give me varre's mask cuz i killed him

[steep moss]

yeah not the fighting game lol

[winged obsidian]

just downloaded that game IDK if I should fall into it's trap

[kind mountain]

The Roblox game!

[winged obsidian]

I've heard people have a love hate relationship with it

[weary flicker]

its bad but not comparable

[sour lagoon]

Is fallout 3 and gta 4 available on ps premium

[raven fern]

Idk

[fossil raptor]

/maybe check the ps store

[chilly agate]

Idk

[hasty kayak]

Idk

[steep moss]

i’ve played since its release, my official opinion is, it’s fun if you like hero shooters, overall sometimes it’s ass but i give it a solid 7/10

[sour lagoon]

It doesn’t show on my phone

[winged obsidian]

the suffering in elden ring seems worse because it's more grandiose but the suffering irl is worse because it's more systematic, widespread, and efficient. that's all I got to say about that tbh

[steep moss]

they are on gamepass

[winged obsidian]

I like Spider-Man

[sour lagoon]

Nyeeuuh

[steep moss]

he’s cool, one of the more labour intensive characters, his skill floor is alot higher than some characters skill ceiling

[winged obsidian]

but I used to be big into overwatch when it was new and it gave me PTSD

[fossil raptor]

fr? lokey wild.

[weary flicker]

the suffering in elden ring is bad because everyone is greatly suffering in some form. irl most if not all institutions that do torture deny doing it and face punishment or sanctions if widespread abuse is uncovered

[winged obsidian]

clearly doesn't stop em though lol

[weary flicker]

idk why you are fighting on the "dark fantasy world is worse than irl"

[steep moss]

they translate decently enough in the basic ways, the main thing is that it’s 3rd person vs first person

[weary flicker]

probably stopped and deterred a lot of torture that didn't happen

[steep moss]

also supports in rivals are crazy compared to ow supports

[sour lagoon]

I think real life is worse than dark fantasy

[fossil raptor]

uh, what r u comparing?

[winged obsidian]

saying that the suffering in ER is worse than IRL more or less

[fossil raptor]

what even are u cpomaring

[chilly agate]

ts is like the coldest take of all time

[winged obsidian]

well that's cool cause I do like and respect the supports

[winged obsidian]

in terms of sheer volume we have it worse IRL solely based on population of people tbh

at that point though you're getting into "suffering logistics" which is a zero sum game

[fossil raptor]

zero sum how? what are we even comparing

[chilly agate]

whaaa bro nothing irl is comparable to stuff like the dung eater in elden ring

[weary flicker]

one of the reasons why we have so many people is there aren't eternal wars in irl that kill and maim everyone

and comparing suffering is not a zero sum game at all

[fossil raptor]

so what are you comparing

[winged obsidian]

you'd be surprised to learn most of the torments you see in fiction are based on stuff from real life

[weary flicker]

if the elden ring universe is worse to live in than in irl

[fossil raptor]

lol nah at least we got snacks 💀

[weary flicker]

do you think warhammer 40k and irl are fundamentally the same

[winged obsidian]

there's always a war happening on our planet

[hexed knoll]

What if WE ARE dung

[winged obsidian]

lol hell no that's not even close

[chilly agate]

i mean sure but still a lot of the stuff in elden ring is way crueler than anything going on IRL

[winged obsidian]

well, like what?

[chilly agate]

the dung eater

[weary flicker]

there is a war irl that makes it so that everyone is fighting all the time

[winged obsidian]

there wasn't in elden ring until the shattering either

[winged obsidian]

yeah I'll give you that he's kind of a special exception I guess, when we die IRL that's that

[weary flicker]

the explicit theme of elden ring and souls series is the system is fundamentally broken

[fossil raptor]

lol yeah, system always broken

[winged obsidian]

yeah that's true

[weary flicker]

the shattering was percent wise much more destructive than anything irl

[thin ice]

what other melees works well with arcane?

[weary flicker]

only a nuclear apocalypse could be comparable

[thin ice]

like high arcane scaling

[winged obsidian]

eternal empires can't last forever, civilizations built on violence and catastrophe will always resort to it to keep that power etc. sounds familiar

[narrow orbit]

Yeah but they both have endings that replace the system entirely

[fossil raptor]

like most empires, i guess

[chilly agate]

mohg's spear has a C in scaling but i heard it's still pretty good

[winged obsidian]

we had 2 highly destructive world wars so idk about that

[weary flicker]

yeah and neither were comparable to the things that happen in dark fantasy

[winged obsidian]

Caelid is sorta like Chernobyl in theme at least

[weary flicker]

lmao

[narrow orbit]

In most endings in elden ring for example you destroy the golden order in favour of something new. Ranni's ending completely changes the way order in general is structured
In dark souls can usurp the first flame and become lord of humanity

[fossil raptor]

more like just rotting lmao

[winged obsidian]

have you studied the world wars?

[thin ice]

the melee or the ash

[chilly agate]

melee

[weary flicker]

do you realize that the lands between is an actual wasteland

literally everyone is in some form fighting

except for the pots ig

[karmic monolith]

yeah the land between is perpetually stuck in a state of violence

[nova matrix]

"I like violence" - ansbach lincoln

[narrow orbit]

Fromsoftware idolises war a lot, even when it criticises it
Does that make life not worth it??

[winged obsidian]

it's also got a population way smaller than ours

[fossil raptor]

...

[karmic monolith]

even world wars had breaks like the christmas celebration between the germans and the british

[nova hazel]

we're lwk lucky that malenia only nuked an entire region once

[weary flicker]

we can talk about that but the claim that the dark fantasy world is anything comparable to irl is just ludicrous

[winged obsidian]

but yeah it's a hell hole, a hell hole where the fundamental laws of physics can be changed in a way ours can't

[weary flicker]

not even that

the vast majority of humans werent in the trenches

[nova hazel]

the hell hole where a giant space dragonfly can destroy cities 💔

[north mango]

Could we drag Sellene, who has turned into a round stone ball, to Farum Azula to use Miquellas golden needle on her and bring her condition back? (Or at least extract her essence in the form of a stone, as we did in her quest?)

[weary flicker]

or not getting bombed

[nova hazel]

pre shattering wars were lwk just as bad

[winged obsidian]

she doesn't deserve it

[karmic monolith]

this too in er everyone is killing someone else u litr cannot even avoid fighting in the capital

[nova hazel]

especially the ancient dragon war bc it is a miracle that gransax didn't cause that much damage

[winged obsidian]

she literally did that to herself with her hubris

[weary flicker]

like just literally look in the mirror

[nova hazel]

i don't think it's an outer god

[weary flicker]

there are wars going on rn

[karmic monolith]

only difference was pre shattering wars was a one sided genocide

[weary flicker]

are you fighting in some super death torture war?

[fossil raptor]

just general server drama lmao

[nova hazel]

except liurnian wars, carian knights were js goated

[north mango]

I'm interested in this in theory

[winged obsidian]

I'm not but other people are

[nova hazel]

no i don't think so

[winged obsidian]

also this is what I meant early, this argument is a dead end lol

[weary flicker]

thats the point, in ER everyone is figthing

[nova hazel]

i don't think that really works out at all bc sellen is GONE

[weary flicker]

there is no life to be had

[nova hazel]

sellen became rotund

[winged obsidian]

you sound like shabriri

[nova hazel]

the sphere consumes all or smth anyways

[karmic monolith]

real but as the state of the world stands i would say the age of stars is as effective of an ending as frenzied flame ( sorry melina)

[tired forge]

Seek audience with ercord

[north mango]

It turns out that the golden needle is designed only for outer gods

[nova hazel]

i mean none of the endings are actually good

[weary flicker]

if I were in elden ring I'd be pals with shabriri tbh

he has a point

[chilly agate]

the dung eater ending is so chill fr

[winged obsidian]

well ask the merchants how that went

[nova hazel]

yea and primeval current isn't an outer god thing

[karmic monolith]

talking comparitvely

[nova hazel]

i'd rather not be born as an omen bc their lives are hell

gng i don't want a horn growing into my eyeball and gouging it out

[tired forge]

Fia's ending is the best as it makes the world 1% less messy

[narrow orbit]

The needle is meant to ward away outer gods. Which Sellen is not afflicted by and besides the needle only works as long as it is in your flesh
She did this to herself either way. She turned herself into a graven mass using the bodies of Lusat and Azur to draw herself closer to the primeval current

[wispy bison]

meow

[winged obsidian]

why don't they just shave them? are they stupid?

[nova hazel]

those who live in death ain't rlly alive tho

[nova hazel]

bc that shi hurts 💔

[winged obsidian]

didn't she also do it to other sorcerers

[karmic monolith]

putting out that point but completely ignoring the fact that it was the leyndell people who buried the whole tribe guilty or innocent alive

[tired forge]

Quite frankly, I disagree with your argument

[narrow orbit]

Well they have "lives" still

[kind mountain]

What happens again I lowkey forgot

[narrow orbit]

Yes, that's why Jerren is out for her life

[winged obsidian]

yeah cause shabriri is a lying scumbag

[narrow orbit]

I'm not sure if I want to attribute that to Shabriri

[winged obsidian]

she also never denied the claims people made about her being a foul witch or ever pleads innocence or shows regret

[karmic monolith]

doesnt justify the actions of the golden order for what they did to them

[winged obsidian]

no it does not

[nova hazel]

guys if ur forced to keep one alive would you rather pick shabriri or dung eater

[fossil raptor]

nah it's not a direct correlation

[winged obsidian]

honestly the merchant part of the game was the most disturbing for me

[tired forge]

Lord of Fracture ending but the TWLID problem is taken care of, however that may be

[raven fern]

Shabriri easy

[nova hazel]

anything omenkiller related takes it for me

[karmic monolith]

shabriri dung eater was just about squeezing torture and pain as much as possible out of every life

[winged obsidian]

dung eater is easier to kill

[thin ice]

have them battle each other and see who comes up victorious

[nova hazel]

i like the way you think

[north mango]

She combined many other personalities. However, the needle is strong enough to kill the frenzied flame inside the tarnished one. I'm wondering why there is no needle for the internal problem of lands between

[winged obsidian]

giving him the potion and watching him panic as he loses his identity is very gratefying

[nova hazel]

i think the omenkillers are def one of the darkest aspects alongside godrick and the grafted scions

[tired forge]

I'd rather kill Shabriri who transcended into a ghost parasite or something

[nova hazel]

i woulda put him in seluvis's basement ngl

[narrow orbit]

The fact that Dung Eater exists but shabriri is still regarded as the most repulsive person in history answers this question
Besides, dung eater is harmless from his tiny cell

[winged obsidian]

he does end up there afaik

[nova hazel]

YAY

[winged obsidian]

if you give him the puppet potion

couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

[karmic monolith]

cz when even you dont have a outer god doing some hanky panky you have the religious fanatics who still screw it up aka hornsent

[tired forge]

Dungy Boy is basically just a good ol insane murderer, which is probably very common in the Lands Between rn

[nova hazel]

which outer god would you guys worship, formless mother or god of rot

[winged obsidian]

first thing shabriri does when he meets you is lie

[narrow orbit]

The needles were crafted for Malenia specifically, to alliviate her rot
And a lot of the internal problems aren't because the influence of a deity

[narrow orbit]

Does he lie though?

[nova hazel]

they still work with frenzied flame tho

[winged obsidian]

formless mother all day

[winged obsidian]

yes

[nova hazel]

nah fr blood cult for life

[maiden token]

Yo I want to get Elden ring as my first souls game but I would be on Keyboard and Mouse…

Should I still go for it or am I cooked?

[fossil raptor]

rip, go on controller

[karmic monolith]

maybe cz part of dung eaters goal was to alter the elden ring, shabriri wanted to remove it from the equation which in golden order terms is the most sacreligious things to do even tho dung eater was more on about suffering

[winged obsidian]

he tells you the body he has was given freely but if you do the quest you know that yura died before any of that could happen

[nova hazel]

nah man you got that ong (i don't use kbm)

[narrow orbit]

Yeah because scarlet rot and frenzied flame are both outer gods

[tired forge]

I'll choose God of Rot

[north mango]

Just to think like that, Miquella was actually able to create a vaccine against external influence if applied at the right time in the right place

[winged obsidian]

pre charm Mohg, if he was similar to Ansbach (which, I imagine he was) seemed like a cool dude

[nova hazel]

smelly

[winged obsidian]

and blood magic is just cooler

[nova hazel]

well idk what he did to eleonora bc she seems like she used to be nice

[karmic monolith]

i found er more easy to play on keyboard and mouse

[narrow orbit]

It's not a vaccine
It's a lid. It's a seal that can be opened again
We see a more gruesome case of this with Midra

[tired forge]

More like his needle is incomplete and it can only work in a place where time is twisted so that Miquella's curse of youth doesn't really exist

[maiden token]

Ooh okay

[nova hazel]

rot magic is fart clouds and the white thread things ew

[winged obsidian]

post charm Mohgwyn and pre charm Moghwyn were likely very different places with different ideals

[winged obsidian]

blood magic has a cooler sound effect

[nova hazel]

yea but there's no way to tell if eleonora is a pre or post charm follower

[tired forge]

Nukes the three final bosses i the game btw

[winged obsidian]

betting on post

[north mango]

I'll go through it later and sort it out more carefully, thank you. But I just don't think we can pull the needle back out after applying it in the Plasidusax arena

[nova hazel]

yea but it's farts

[tired forge]

Fair enough

[nova hazel]

why do you wanna use fart magic

[winged obsidian]

either way, she was a dragon hunter who ate their hearts

[tired forge]

Eleonora seems recent with Yura knowing her

[winged obsidian]

it's implied that's not very good for your psyche

[nova hazel]

true true

[winged obsidian]

look at igon

[narrow orbit]

Both of these versions involve senseless murder and collecting blood
It's just that Miquella became the center of attention after the charm

[tired forge]

Actually it's cutesy rafflesia flower magic

[nova hazel]

okay maybe it was all the dragon heart eating

[tired forge]

And butterflies

[nova hazel]

and mohg saw her eating a dragon heart like "hey you want more of that? join the cult fr fr we got tons of blood dw"

[winged obsidian]

how much of pre charm Moghwyn do we really have aside from Ansbach though

[narrow orbit]

Well we can't in-game sure but it is something that can happen
Something that both Malenia and Millicent do. Midra as well, if we count him

[tired forge]

Eleonora was power hungry and loved to fight

[winged obsidian]

everything in game is after centuries of it

[tired forge]

Joining Mohg probably didn't bother her much

[nova hazel]

ansbach being old asl is a clue tbh

the younger ppl prob dealt with post charm

[north mango]

It's just that it works like a seal inside Lands between, but in my opinion, the place of its application is important, Farum Azula maximizes this effect

[fossil raptor]

different eras hit ppl differnt

[winged obsidian]

he's a geezer alright yeah. people seem to live for centuries in game too

[narrow orbit]

Ansbach is still a huge murderer though
People were scared of him. He is just aged and jaded now, until the great rune breaks that is. The charm is what made him more tame

[fossil raptor]

lmao rlly? like what centuries

[nova hazel]

HEY

ansbach slander is unaccepted here

[fossil raptor]

lol what does that even mean

[narrow orbit]

You can still like a character, even if they're a monster

[winged obsidian]

ok I heard people say that but when I did research I couldn't find anything that explicitly called him a murderer just that he was a feared warrior so where does that murderer stuff come from?

[tired forge]

Warrior equals kill people

[narrow orbit]

Yeah

[nova hazel]

ngl everyone's killed someone in this game

[winged obsidian]

are warriors murderers?

[tired forge]

Aslatiel of Mirrah is a good exemple

[narrow orbit]

Yes

[winged obsidian]

cause then you gotta stretch that for every warrior we see

[tired forge]

If you killed someone, yes

[narrow orbit]

Hey that's me!

[tired forge]

Who is this guy

[narrow orbit]

Exactly
A lot of people in this game are murderers
Ansbach being a really big one

[fossil raptor]

uh, what pic? song or the comedy thing?

[nova hazel]

who's the weakest demigod besides godrick

[narrow orbit]

Godefroy

[fossil raptor]

i dunno man lowkey guessing half the time

[winged obsidian]

i mean sure, but that's a weird distinction to make

[nova hazel]

i mean at least bro had a decent army

[tired forge]

Godefroy is peak filler

[narrow orbit]

Most of it was Godrick's

[fossil raptor]

peak filler sounds like a take

[winged obsidian]

and honestly, with the golden order breathing down his neck, it's understandable that he'd have to fight

[nova hazel]

yea ngl stormblade vs holy magic is an awful matchup

[fossil raptor]

ngl it's just a question of scaling

[winged obsidian]

totally not a Mohg and Ansbach apologist here nope

[nova hazel]

but from looking at the battlefields they def had a ton of people there

[fossil raptor]

tho scale ignores crowd control

[nova hazel]

if they actually breached the walls they MIGHT outnumber leyndell

[tired forge]

Ehhhhh

[nova hazel]

but then again it's leyndell so tree sentinels clear out

[zenith sparrow]

[winged obsidian]

gransax should've finished the job, would've saved us a lot of effort

[nova hazel]

ngl they stop at the tree sentinel duo even if the perfumers are gone

[nova hazel]

nah ancient dragons shoulda waited until the shattering ong

[fossil raptor]

nah, probably not gonna stop

[nova hazel]

imagine all the ancient dragons + limgrave forces against leyndell

limgrave is js gonna be cannon fodder

[winged obsidian]

Elden ring ancient dragons really got charmed by a hot blond dude and became guard dogs, dark souls ancient dragons could never

[nova hazel]

it's godwyn tho

[winged obsidian]

they're too busy getting chunked by lightning

[north mango]

If Radagon hates his red hair, does this mean that he was from a family of Giants, but was devoted to the golden order? Is that why he studied (or founded, I don't remember) fundamentalism, and after that dedication was rewarded with the blessing of a Great Will? And only then the campaign to Liurnia and after becoming the 2nd lord and merging with Marika

[nova hazel]

lwk i wish we had some godwyn lightning spells other than death lightning

[narrow orbit]

We're not making a distinction
People just mistake Ansbach's kindness for goodness. A kind person can still have a messed up past

[nova hazel]

well actually the death knights have blinkbolt and stuff so godwyn could prob teleport with lightning or smth

[winged obsidian]

oh no I'm not doing that at all lol, he was a bloodthirsty warrior by his and Ledas admission lol

but if you call him a murderer you gotta call every warrior a murderer

[fast junco]

oi

[tired forge]

oi more like 01

[nova hazel]

omelander

speaking of him actually homelander lwk gets wiped by godrick

[winged obsidian]

I really really wish the dlc expanded more on what pre charm Mohg and Mohgwyn was like

[narrow orbit]

His hair is explicitly a curse, likely targeted at Marika and it manifested in him
Because he is a part of her. Like Trina is a part of Miquella

[nova hazel]

from the fire giants when marika killed the fell god but when they say marika they probably mean radagon

[narrow orbit]

Not much different
The charm doesn't change that much about you as a person other than suppressing your darker thoughts

[north mango]

But he wasn't part of Marikka originally, Melina says this in the Queen's chamber

[nova hazel]

well we don't know when she said that she could've said that at any point

[winged obsidian]

it can vary from person to person but what is consistent is that it warps your emotions in varying ways

[narrow orbit]

She says he is yet to become her but he did originate from her

[winged obsidian]

perhaps turning Mohg's loyalty and devotion into obsession

[narrow orbit]

Miyazaki himself described empyreans as such

[nova hazel]

bc there is a very crude timeline of elden ring but it's hard to piece together

[winged obsidian]

yeah true

[narrow orbit]

The timeline is pretty clear

[winged obsidian]

nah dog the timeline is kind of a mess

[narrow orbit]

We know when the events happened and in what order

[narrow orbit]

What confuses you?

[nova hazel]

yea but we don't get how they all mesh together tho

[winged obsidian]

big events may be a bit more clear but the details are all over the place

[nova hazel]

like radagon and marika fusing happens whoever knows when

[narrow orbit]

Give me an example and I can prove it to you

[terse tundra]

Anyone know if the movies set before or during the events of the movie

[fossil raptor]

uh, depends on which movies u mean?

[winged obsidian]

I think it's a little different for a lore expert vs an average player though

[terse tundra]

Elden ring

[nova hazel]

miquella charming mohg was prob when he tried to kidnap him tho bc how else could he charm him? even in the dlc he has to get near us to charm us

[winged obsidian]

the sealing of the land of shadow for one

[narrow orbit]

Post shattering surely
She says so herself

[100102030] Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self.
Right after saying he is yet to become her

[fossil raptor]

like, the game itself

[narrow orbit]

Exactly

[fossil raptor]

theres a movie based on elden ring?

[pseudo dawn]

will be

[nova hazel]

wait isn't the shattering what follows the breaking of the elden ring

[fossil raptor]

wait, whats that supposed to mean

[pseudo dawn]

They are going to make it. Early stages now

[north mango]

I was just researching this topic, how else to explain the golden order greatsword (weapon of fundamentalism)of the bastard in the lands of the giants. It's just that if Radagon is Marika's half initially, then he's numen too

[pseudo dawn]

a few actors were confirmed somewhere

[narrow orbit]

Right when Marika ascended to godhood
The seal is tied to the scadutree, and we know that the scadutree was born alongside the erdtree and that the erdtree was born when Marika ascended to godhood and she got all she needed from the Hornsent. This was in the DLC story trailer

[nova hazel]

there is literally no explanation for how that sword could've ever ended up there

like it's the most random cave and being held by the most random enemy possible

[narrow orbit]

Oh sorry I mean the breaking of the elden ring specifically, not the war

[nova hazel]

but doesn't it show radagon and marika shifting in the trailer when the elden ring is broken

[narrow orbit]

It's probably a remmnant of cut content that connected Radagon to the misbegotten

[north mango]

Either the great will, before choosing god, chooses the masculine and feminine on the Lands between, Marika from the Numen race and her half, the masculine Radagon from the giant race

[winged obsidian]

Radagon is Marika

[narrow orbit]

Yes, and it is probably a result of that action
Or you can say Radagon never left Marika and they just juggled Leyndell and Raya Lucaria somehow but ehhh I don't like it that much

[winged obsidian]

that much is clear at least

[north mango]

He is the strongest of all bastards, I remember there were still moments, but I think we'll discuss it next time

[winged obsidian]

a lot of stuff in game is just kinda randomly in places

[nova hazel]

i js realized it could totally be that radagon dropped it during the giants war and it ended up there

[winged obsidian]

didn't the giant war happen before the Carian one?

[nova hazel]

uhhhh idk 💔

[winged obsidian]

or am I mistaken?

[narrow orbit]

That is not how that works
The greater will didn't choose Marika to be a god, she was just born an empyrean and then the two fingers specifically recognised her as a candidate to godhood
And as far as Radagon goes, he is one of her aspects, he isn't an outside entity. Much like Trina stemmed from Miquella, or Millicent stemmed from Malenia

[fossil raptor]

what are you even referring to?

[narrow orbit]

No you are correct

[winged obsidian]

it's easy to confuse all these wars and genocides in the timeline

[narrow orbit]

The sword is younger than that, as imp pointed out

[winged obsidian]

they all just blend in after a while

[nova hazel]

yea true

[nova hazel]

he's def like her faith or loyalty to the greater will

[molten lichen]

Miquella is a dude

[winged obsidian]

radagon did some divorced husband soul searching on the mountain and threw away his wedding ring

[fossil raptor]

lol sounds like a really dramatic lore moment

[nova hazel]

si

[winged obsidian]

yeah he's probably her faith

[narrow orbit]

The golden order specifically
The greater will doesn't really have a role in this scenario

[winged obsidian]

that's why he defined her attempt to shatter it

[nova hazel]

ahh i see

[narrow orbit]

The Golden Order was her vision that was sculpted by her with the Two Fingers' guidance

[winged obsidian]

all the other halves of the empyreans resist them in some way

[nova hazel]

he was def a very smart guy tho considering he studied BOTH sorcery and incants

bro put points into everything except arcane probably

[winged obsidian]

honestly though Millicent should've given Malenia her pride back, maybe then we wouldn't have a phase 2

[fossil raptor]

ngl that phase 2 thing is wild

[north mango]

fr, finger readers and, in my opinion, fundamentalists also created a cult around this

[nova hazel]

i mean anything explicit is basically rotted off anyways so it's not that wild

[winged obsidian]

no wonder she's so upset

[fossil raptor]

so youre just fine then lol

[nova hazel]

hell i'd be mad if i woke up and

[narrow orbit]

Fundamentalism was Marika showing doubt in her perfect eternal vision and it made people a little scared

[winged obsidian]

drama queen that she is

[nova hazel]

i don't think i can say that actually i'll shush

[fossil raptor]

for sure you do

[winged obsidian]

you see the way she's sitting when you walk into that fog?

[fossil raptor]

dunno, maybe just a good pose

[winged obsidian]

she definitely saw you on the roots above her room and got into position to aura farm

[fossil raptor]

lol auras man

[winged obsidian]

prepared a poem too

[nova hazel]

miquellan knights are interesting to me bc they have holy stuff but they also use glintstone pebble

[fossil raptor]

huh, the dissonance is the point

[nova hazel]

i mean haligtree knights mb

[fossil raptor]

haligtree knights, right?

[winged obsidian]

they also explode

[nova hazel]

it's weird to me that there's separate knights for the haligtree and miquella

[winged obsidian]

oh no the haglitree ones do

[nova hazel]

i guess it shows that he knew he wasn't gonna be there in his cocoon forever

[winged obsidian]

he got tired of his old knights and wanted some new ones to play with

[nova hazel]

but then again i think leda killed all the miquellan ones

[winged obsidian]

a recurring theme with him

[winged obsidian]

the needle knights?

[north mango]

Could it then be that Radagon could have been separated from Marika by the Elden beast or a great will as an instrument of control over her, or he appeared as the embodiment of her loyalty to the order, which she herself was trying to get rid of?

[nova hazel]

so childlike

[winged obsidian]

I think they're a different order

[fossil raptor]

oh? what makes u think that

[nova hazel]

omg i forgot they're different too why does he have 3 different kinds of knights

[winged obsidian]

instinct

[nova hazel]

well actually he never had a miquellan knight bc the sword is "unused"

[winged obsidian]

gotta get the newest, prettiest knights when they release of course

[fossil raptor]

ngl what's the source on that

[narrow orbit]

We know of other demigods who had their personal guard
Godwyn and Radahn for example
Haligtree Knights are still Miquella knights, they just belong to a specific category. As do the Needle Knights

When they existed at least

[winged obsidian]

we get that one straight sword but no knights use it afaik

[nova hazel]

yk it's weird that all the redmanes use fire

[winged obsidian]

fire burns rot

[nova hazel]

and the only time radahn uses it is the meteor

[north mango]

I mean, yes, Radagon is the other half of Marika, but at some point they were separated

[nova hazel]

yea i know that but i should've finished my full thought first mb

[narrow orbit]

They adopted it post shattering to fight the rot

[winged obsidian]

maybe earlier cause of his red hair

[fossil raptor]

lol whats the hair supposed to mean

[nova hazel]

yea but doesn't radahns great rune use fire too

[narrow orbit]

Well the greater will doesn't care all that much and the elden beast has no will of its own to do that

[nova hazel]

it burns to help him resist the scarlet rot or smth

[fossil raptor]

tho thats a lotta assumptions rn

[winged obsidian]

i don't think so

[narrow orbit]

Yeah it was a reaction to the rot

[winged obsidian]

the great rune is probably what was keeping him alive through the rot though tbh

I'm sure he wished it didn't

[fossil raptor]

maybe more than just the rune

[narrow orbit]

Radagon's hair was a curse from the fire giants

[winged obsidian]

i meant Radahn

[nova hazel]

yk i wish they followed through with the more specific great rune names like decay (malenia) and abundance (miquella)

[fossil raptor]

lmao the lore is wild

[winged obsidian]

Radahn's hair was genetic

[narrow orbit]

Oh
Well he did inherit it from Radagon anyway

[nova hazel]

from his dada

[winged obsidian]

evidently the curse affected his genes

[fossil raptor]

just cuz radagon was involved lmao

[north mango]

They just both had a separate will and consciousness, that's why I'm confused

[winged obsidian]

bet radagon was a blond too

[nova hazel]

besides this they call godrick's rune the "anchor rune"

[winged obsidian]

Godrick was a wuss

[tulip arch]

There is an elden ring movie? It's over i hate everything

[narrow orbit]

Yeah, it's essentially a specific part of you growin sentience

[north mango]

Godric 100 fraudulent

[narrow orbit]

You're :true: actually. I'll wait for a trailer to form my full thoughts

[nova hazel]

it'll be out 2028

[winged obsidian]

bro had to sneak out of the castle with the mimic veil lol

[nova hazel]

it's being produced by A24, alex garling is the director, he's gotten up to ng+7 as stated by him in an interview

[lavish yacht]

There is hope

[tulip arch]

Never been so over, I can't have anything

[winged obsidian]

bet he stole the great rune too

[tulip arch]

My beloved golden order

[narrow orbit]

It was passed down to him probably

[nova hazel]

also alex garling made the 28 days later franchise which is good for a post apocalyptic movie

[winged obsidian]

there's a bb movie directed by Jack septic eye

[narrow orbit]

Produced, not directed

[fossil raptor]

oh yeah he did that one too?

[narrow orbit]

Big difference

[winged obsidian]

it was slipped in his pocket while everyone else was looking the other way

[tulip arch]

I've never played bloodborne

[lavish yacht]

Play it

[tulip arch]

I don't like the look of it

[weary marten]

is it actually gonna be a professionally filmed movie or some tubi quality

[north mango]

What two great runes could Vyke get? Could these be the runes of other fallen demigods during the night of the black knives?

[nova hazel]

i mean i trust jack with bb hes said so many times that loves that game

[lavish yacht]

I completely trust him

[nova hazel]

he's getting help from sony i think?

[narrow orbit]

Bloodborne? it's an animated film

[weary marten]

i meant the other one

[tulip arch]

Did Vyke get any? I thought he just died trying to save his maiden gf

[royal basin]

How would the Elden ring movie work though

[tulip arch]

well actually we kill him

[winged obsidian]

his dragon babe

[narrow orbit]

It's made by A24 and directed by a big time Director
Yes

[lavish yacht]

It looks like it’ll be pre shattering

[nova hazel]

omg nvm they're doing a helldivers movie with jason momoa i have no faith in bloodborne now

[fossil raptor]

...

[winged obsidian]

lannseax and vyke on their romantic razing dates

[royal basin]

The set picture looks pretty game accurate

[narrow orbit]

I don't think Vyke ever got great runes
Enia says she has only seen 2 great runes together once before and implies it was Gideon that got them

[nova hazel]

i've seen marika and dung eater already from the leaks

[tulip arch]

How could it be about vyke if it's pre shattering? He is a tarnished therfore banished with Horah Loux?

[lavish yacht]

Completely unrelated to the Bloodborne movie tho

[royal basin]

The director refuses to play helldivers

[nova hazel]

ngl they gotta find the leaker bc i don't need the movie being spoiled for me

[winged obsidian]

one more point to the fraud allegations for Gideon

[nova hazel]

both produced by sony

[royal basin]

Also the director of the helldivers movie did the halo show

[nova hazel]

oh hell no

[winged obsidian]

mama mía

[royal basin]

And he refuses to play the game

[nova hazel]

helldivers fandom is crying rn i can hear it

[winged obsidian]

why be proud that you haven't experienced the source of the media you're trying to create?

[lavish yacht]

Sony has produced a lot of movies so

[royal basin]

Alledgedly

[north mango]

Does this happen before or after defeating Maliketh?

[nova hazel]

and sometimes they make awful movies

[narrow orbit]

Minecraft movie opened Pandora's goddamn box
But at least that knew it was silly

[winged obsidian]

Minecraft movie is slop

[nova hazel]

oh god if i see jack black in bloodborne istg

[royal basin]

Spider verse and project Hail Mary were both so peak

[nova hazel]

i said sometimes

[winged obsidian]

and it just opened up the pig trough

[narrow orbit]

She says it after we get two great runes

[102010000] I had my doubts, but...my, look at you.
[102010010] Only once before have I seen two Great Runes together.
[102010020] Look there. The Fingers shudder with exuberance.
[102010030] "Fine work, brave Tarnished. The Greater Will is pleased."
[102010040] "You have earned the right to become Elden Lord."
[102010050] "Now, seek the Erdtree, and an audience with Queen Marika."
[102010060] "To become Elden Lord, and restore the Golden Order."
[102010070] The Fingers expect...
[102010080] As much from you as they do young Gideon.

[royal basin]

Minecraft movie was bad but it was a stupid fun movie

[winged obsidian]

but what will come of the video game movie industry because of it?

y'know, the infamously good video game movies?

[nova hazel]

sonic movies have been carrying it so far

[fossil raptor]

ngl it'll probably bounce back eventually, but peak pre-covid levels seem kinda far out rn

[royal basin]

Still some good adaptations Minecraft was just uhhh special

[nova hazel]

the new mortal kombat 2 movie seems good

[glad fractal]

…

[narrow orbit]

Not much
The games go on no matter how bad the movies are

[fossil raptor]

idk man just wait and see lol

[nova hazel]

mario movies are from illumination so just hella basic

[royal basin]

Minecraft movie 2 finna be so peak

[north mango]

Then how did Vyke absorb the frenzied flames and make his way to the Valley of Giants?

[fossil raptor]

illu's whole vibe is basic

[winged obsidian]

the resident evil movies are kinda baffling to me like, surely they did not need to make like 5 of them right

[north mango]

Lands or Valley ehhh

[narrow orbit]

Life finds a way
Other characters go there without great runes as well. Or even the Rold Medallion
Juno, Bernahl, Alexander, Millicent

[north mango]

I forgor

[nova hazel]

those residents must be pretty evil

[winged obsidian]

yeah it's kind of a biohazard

[nova hazel]

juno has been there forever for all we know

[narrow orbit]

Juno is a tarnished

Like Diallos

[fossil raptor]

i think she's more residual

[winged obsidian]

Juno waiting for centuries in a shack instead of hanging out with his beloved baby brother

[narrow orbit]

He can't have been there forever

[winged obsidian]

he was in there hitting the shinji pose next to his maiden

[nova hazel]

other way around actually, juno was the kid they all loved

they kinda js ignored diallos

poor guy

[winged obsidian]

no he loved his brother, diallos

his family? maybe not, but he definitely did

[fossil raptor]

nah, pobably not. it's more complicated than that

[winged obsidian]

Juno's helm description reads:

Juno Hoslow had a younger brother who was all talk and no trousers.

His inability to commit to action was such that Juno inherited the Hoslow legacy without resistance, granting him the freedom to shower his little brother with adoration.

[fossil raptor]

aint no way the helm just says that

[nova hazel]

it's kinda messed up that the volcano manor wanted his brother dead and he joined them

[winged obsidian]

and another said it broke his heart when Diallos tried to become like him

[fossil raptor]

so who said that part?

[nova hazel]

then again i don't think he knew abt that

[winged obsidian]

"the tale of house Hoslow is told in blood" was an indictment

not a thing worth bragging about

[north mango]

Okay, you're right. But then it turns out that his handmaiden fingers initially knew that the Tree would protect itself with its roots and they needed to be burned. And fingerprints can only be obtained in transcription of frenzied flame in the dungeons of Leyndell

[celest remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/215136262129057792/1489257990975656108/0A303AC4-2C28-46BC-952A-BEFD76612442.gif

[winged obsidian]

"I'm so hungry"

[celest remnant]

That horse isn't hungry

[winged obsidian]

a lot of the people the volcano manor asks you to kill are chill dudes

[hybrid junco]

Mad question but can anyone drop a godskin peeler?

[celest remnant]

He's got HAYfever

[winged obsidian]

"I'm so hungry I could eat a horse"

[nova hazel]

patches went way too far and wanted mr dual giant crusher dead 💔

absolutely not 💔

[north mango]

For iconic armor set

[winged obsidian]

Traggoth is a real one

[nova hazel]

AND he fought radahn too

[celest remnant]

I am that single person sitting down when Goku asks all of earth to rise up and lend him his energy for a spirit bomb

[nova hazel]

istvan is also cool bc he helped me get bocs stuff back

[winged obsidian]

tanked up with big armor, big hammer, a crossbow for ranged enemies, and he gives you the chill greeting emote

like for him it's just another day of aiding his fellows

[fossil raptor]

kinda much tho lmao

[weary marten]

maliketh without armor looks like a runebear with osteoperosis

[winged obsidian]

what is your opinion on the shareholders for chatgpt

[winged obsidian]

he's been eating cancer flowers for years give him some slack

[stable flare]

istvan is also cool bc he drops that scaled armor after dying

[fossil raptor]

oh yeah, the scaled armor thing is legit?

[atomic tapir]

(and me)

[winged obsidian]

it's ranga

[frigid oriole]

If malekith wasnt destined death would he be a good dog

[nova hazel]

does anyone know if thops barrier does anything to rennalas comet azur

[fossil raptor]

dunno the lore for that one

[nova hazel]

if anyone doesn't know i'll try it

[nova hazel]

thops barrier is a deflection spell

[fossil raptor]

idk much about that specific combo

[fossil raptor]

thoops barrier i think it blocks status effects

[nova hazel]

no it deflects spells and incants

[winged obsidian]

you can avoid comet azur by running right in front of her when she does it

[nova hazel]

apparently it works on that one elden beast attack where it makes golden spear things rain down from the sky on you

[frigid oriole]

Busted my eyebrow open today

[winged obsidian]

but idk if it lasts long enough to deflect all of it

[nova hazel]

yea i know she's super easy but i js wanna know if it works

[nova hazel]

i will test it out then

[winged obsidian]

thops was an unappreciated genius

[nova hazel]

this is gonna be the first time i ever use sacrificial twig talisman

[fossil raptor]

nah, no way fr

[nova hazel]

i'd rather use shabriris woe but whatever

[nova hazel]

ouchie

rennala get your kids off the floor they freak me out

[celest remnant]

One's gonna crawl out from under your bed tonight

[nova hazel]

its legs don't work i'll just lock it in the bathroom

[celest remnant]

Maybe that's what it wants

can you hear it? it's already flushing all your waschlothes at once

[nova hazel]

maybe it needs the toilet

[celest remnant]

It also already tore your shower curtain

[lament garden]

whats good everyone

[nova hazel]

yea thops barrier does NOT deflect comet azur

[fossil raptor]

prbably just a lore thing

[nova hazel]

yea makes sense

thops vs legendary sorcery

[fossil raptor]

lol right

[nova hazel]

the ordina one?

[celest remnant]

Imagine asking about exploits here

read the rules

[nova hazel]

oh it's that kind

[nova ledge]

right, I forgot, 1984 yada yada

wait

[sour lagoon]

Just cause I’m depressed

[frigid oriole]

Ok star fist build just got in haligtree to get rotten insignia ima also do nelania

Melania

[fossil raptor]

rotten insignia on star fist is gonna be rough

[frigid oriole]

In what way

[celest remnant]

I got tamales from a neighborly mexican woman carrying a cooler

extra hype

[frigid oriole]

Like ib a good or bad way

[celest remnant]

they were 50 cents each too

[frigid oriole]

In

[sour lagoon]

I had that happen to me like a month ago lol

[frigid oriole]

Gimme sum

I could down 10 rn

[sour lagoon]

I would have bought the cooler

😭

[celest remnant]

I basically did, she had chicken and spicy chicken

top notch the both

[sour lagoon]

Nice

[frigid oriole]

Mmmmm

[sour lagoon]

Man that sounds good some Mexican food

[celest remnant]

Ate like two of them in front of her, gave her 5$ and told her there was more if she'd come back by my way more often

[fossil raptor]

huh, what kind 😭

[sour lagoon]

I haven’t ate in almost a day and a half

[fossil raptor]

are u good

[celest remnant]

both had cheese but she had chicken, and spicy chicken

[sour lagoon]

Just stressed

[fossil raptor]

spicy sounds better ngl

[fossil raptor]

whatcha stressed about

[sour lagoon]

Stressed depressed and got sht on my chest

[fossil raptor]

sounds rough man

[sour lagoon]

Break ups/breaks are hard

Just the loss of my lady

She was living with me for two years

[sour lagoon]

Yea and had a dream about it last night too

[fossil raptor]

lol dreams are always worse

[nova hazel]

ugggh thops your spell is buns unless it's against elden beast 💔

also remind me to never try using it on rennalas moon again

[frigid oriole]

All of us are maidenless😭

[nova hazel]

real

[sour lagoon]

Especially when it’s somewhat positive and makes the struggle seem easy and u just wake up like fuuu

[fossil raptor]

ngl thats rough

[nova hazel]

i tested it on rennala to see if my goat thops made anything useful

timing is awful

but if i had the timing it seems alr, only benefit is has over carian retaliation is that it deflects more projectiles at a time

[sour lagoon]

I wasn’t taking care of myself and in turn I stopped taking care of her

[nova hazel]

and even then eternal darkness does the same job but better

[fossil raptor]

ngl it just depends on the parry timing tbh

[frigid oriole]

Yk what u need a hug everyone give him the hug emoji🫂

[sour lagoon]

Thank you it means a lot

[hexed kernel]

damn

[nova ledge]

for those who saw it, the thing I said earlier does indeed still work
it wasnt patched

[frigid oriole]

What

[fossil raptor]

is that for real

[lavish yacht]

Ouch I’ve been there man 😭those hurt

[sour lagoon]

Yea now i want to just go back to sleep

But I need to eat

And my folks are coming I need to clean

[fossil raptor]

aint no way u gotta clean

[sour lagoon]

Wdym

[fossil raptor]

whatcha talkin about

[frigid oriole]

OMFG

[hexed kernel]

you must have done something for that to happen ig

[frigid oriole]

i hate these man lions in haligtree

[sour lagoon]

My folks are coming to town temporarily and will be staying with me

[fossil raptor]

oh cool, more peope around town then

[sour lagoon]

Yea I’ll have some company

[winged obsidian]

thops is a legendary sorcerer though

[sour lagoon]

It takes two

[nova hazel]

tell that to comet azur

[winged obsidian]

more so in the scholar department than the battle one

[sour lagoon]

Although I blame myself a lot

[nova hazel]

W tag btw 🥹

[winged obsidian]

his barrier proves a fundamental concept of nature long since debated which is pretty damn legendary

he's just not a warrior type of nerd

[fossil raptor]

for real though what conept

[sour lagoon]

He conjured a patronus

[winged obsidian]

he's also a bald man

[sour lagoon]

Thops patronus

[winged obsidian]

chrome dome

[sour lagoon]

I wasn’t able to take my dog to the vet cause they didn’t have any doctors in today

[chilly agate]

yo what do u guys think of my build, it's in #media-and-links

started a new save for the DLC

[fossil raptor]

hmm, gotta check that.

[wispy bison]

meow meow

[lean prairie]

The hell I just walk in on

[hasty kayak]

[chilly agate]

lol

[lean prairie]

I just woke up from a midday bout of passing out now I wanna go back

[chilly agate]

beat malenia by the skin of my teeth, only had 1 flask left 🥀

[floral nimbus]

brits

[sour lagoon]

Grits

[floral nimbus]

Do you keep Long John Silvers in business

[sour lagoon]

I have no relation

[floral nimbus]

are you related to Big John

[fossil raptor]

nah, ain't no way

[sour lagoon]

Who

[lean prairie]

As in the Dusk one?

[floral nimbus]

big bad john

[sour lagoon]

What

John Duskbloods?

[lean prairie]

Boss in an indie game called Dusk, his name is Big John idk if that's what Jax is on about

[fossil raptor]

what duskbloods

[sour lagoon]

I see

[fossil raptor]

huh you just 'see'?

[chilly agate]

nugrub ru a LLM

[sour lagoon]

I was replying to Sammy

[floral nimbus]

thats my shoulder😿

[fossil raptor]

im just here tryna vibe

[lean prairie]

Yall if I got 3d model stuff I wanna show off but it's like not ER related am I even allowed to post it or smth and where

[fossil raptor]

try the fan-art or builds forum maybe?

[chilly agate]

well that's not a no...

[sour lagoon]

What is LLM

[fossil raptor]

nah it's just vibes

[lean prairie]

Well, like I said it's not ER related idk if it can count

Whatever just wanted to maybe get some feedback on it or smth

[fossil raptor]

depends on rules

[sour lagoon]

You can also post in #media-and-links I believe

[lean prairie]

Maybe

[fossil raptor]

kinda vague, what are we talking about

[lean prairie]

Uh, well,

[sour lagoon]

3d printed stuff of some kind

[fossil raptor]

i mean its not but i could ask you the same thing

[lean prairie]

HF Murasama model from Metal Gear Rising: Reveangance that I made

Like pics of it

[chilly agate]

im not a LLM :-)

[sour lagoon]

What is llm

[fossil raptor]

ya but can you prove it?

[chilly agate]

large language model, aka what chatgpt is

[fossil raptor]

long leg master

[chilly agate]

any ai model that can talk is a llm i think

[sour lagoon]

Lick love mate

[fossil raptor]

im pretty sure an llm is an ai model that can process language input and provide and output

llms dont really talk unless you give it a voice

[vague harbor]

Hi

[sour lagoon]

Like Snapchat ai

[lean prairie]

Yo

[vague harbor]

How you doing

[lean prairie]

Good enough

You?

[vague harbor]

Good

[fossil raptor]

anyway why'd you ask?

its a bit of an odd thing to ask tbh

[lean prairie]

We know what you are-

[fossil raptor]

nah rally not sure what you mean by that

[lean prairie]

Ok tbh that sounded sus mb

[fossil raptor]

what specifically

[vague harbor]

What are yall talking about anyways

[lean prairie]

A clank-

[fossil raptor]

what clank? lol

[lean prairie]

Nugrub is being accused of being an AI and I'm trying to figure out where to post non-ER fan art stuff

[vague harbor]

Who's nugrub

[fossil raptor]

check the fanart channel tho, check rules first

bro wtf is a clanker anyway?

[fossil raptor]

just some random user lmao

[lavish yacht]

Slur for a robot

[frigid oriole]

My star fist build is COMPLETE

[fossil raptor]

nah thats just a slur lmao

[vague harbor]

👍

[lean prairie]

Just a slur against AI's

[soft osprey]

probably an ai i dunno

[lavish yacht]

Literally what i said

[earnest knoll]

You’re def an AI

[fossil raptor]

who though of that?

[earnest knoll]

George Lucas

[frigid oriole]

Got rotten winged sword insignia

[fossil raptor]

i meant its just a slur not just for robots

anyway you cant get banned for saying clanker right?

[vague harbor]

Idk anyone calling someone a clanker

[fossil raptor]

should i say it like that or like clanka?

[soft osprey]

No because it's not an actual slur

[earnest knoll]

You Can’t because It’s Not a Real slur

It’s literally from star wars bro

[fossil raptor]

who would even do that

[lean prairie]

Yeah no it's tongue-in-cheek

[soft osprey]

It's also just a joke insult for robots

[fossil raptor]

lemme tell you i find that offensive

on behalf of robots

[soft osprey]

im sorry nugrubgpt

[winged obsidian]

I imagine so

[earnest knoll]

Clanker

[fossil raptor]

sounds like a lotta effort

[vague harbor]

Should I call them tinskins instead of clanker

[fossil raptor]

nah that's old talk lmao

[winged obsidian]

very human response