general-discussion

[cedar tundra]

shhhh we were just a lil off topic

[sand coral]

The amount of peakness displayed on this screenshot needs to be studied.

[cedar tundra]

man someones promoting hello kitty island adventure WE ARE FINE lol

[twilit steeple]

True 😭

[sand coral]

I am doing you all a favor.

[pallid cloud]

cry about it

[south ledge]

modded the hell out of it too. my favorite modlist for that game:
https://gist.github.com/justGesha/f4999ba88f1ef332aec2fa4da1339536

[molten lichen]

[twilit steeple]

Sure man whatever you say 😭

[cedar tundra]

Butters already showed me this game

[south ledge]

nope, you can talk about anything as long as its not a heated or sensitive topic, nsfw, scam or similar

[jagged widget]

You dont understand the gravity of this situation. All 500k members will now migrate to hello kitty island adventure within the next 3,5 weeks

[twilit steeple]

Ok then

[sand coral]

Amazing. Peak. Excellent. Wonderful.

[twilit steeple]

Lets rename the server to hello kitty island adventure 😭

[cedar tundra]

you've already lost me.... Sekijo the Apple Prince was very convincing

[south ledge]

though technically it should be in #off-topic but eh who cares

[sand coral]

Can I preach the greatness of cats?

[south ledge]

#elden-beasts of course

[sand coral]

😼

[summer jetty]

some people told me that the bosses after the godskin duo are pretty hard and i likely wont be able to defeat them fast

[jagged widget]

I neglected the elden beast channel for like 2 years

[south ledge]

too subjective to say anything about

you might find them hard, or they could be piss easy

[cedar tundra]

hmm i dont have it, and ive been a member since the early days

[jagged widget]

#elden-beasts ?

Strange

[cedar tundra]

thank you, got it

[bleak bolt]

I remember I got banned from a Soulsborne server cause I said I play marvel rivals

[native stream]

That's so silly it loops back around to being funny

[south ledge]

meanwhile pretty much all the wolfcord members play rivals lol

[summer jetty]

how do i get access to vcs?

[south ledge]

#how-to-access-vc-channels

[summer jetty]

thank you

anybody wanna watch me go on with my first playthrough?

[cedar tundra]

that was great fun going through this channel, thx lol

[kind quail]

where would one access the eldenring data sheets

[native stream]

Check the pins in #builds

[kind quail]

thanks goatden

[native stream]

Yw

[bleak bolt]

Apparently it makes me a “bad person” and I think “the actions that Disney or NetEase take under wraps” is justified..

I never got to mention how Elden Ring (they glaze the game) is made by Bandai Namco..

[worthy basin]

I think i bugged Alexanders questline

[native stream]

Published silly not made

[native stream]

How so?

[bleak bolt]

Oh they’ll still see it as the same thing

[worthy basin]

He's just not at farum azula

i did every step, made sure of it

I don't think he likes me

[bleak bolt]

Anyways

[native stream]

Including visiting him at Volcano Manor and making sure you're in the right place for his final location?

[bleak bolt]

Then I raised up the point that they’re anti AI, like any sort of AI they’re against but they still use discord and YouTube

I tried to send a gif then realised I can’t

[worthy basin]

With Volcana Manor u mean the part where he's just bathing in lava right?

Hmmmm

Ill reload the area rq

[native stream]

Yeah that's the one

[bleak bolt]

What game are yall talking about

[worthy basin]

Rejoined the game and for some reason he's here now thx for the help twin

[bleak bolt]

[worthy basin]

Elden Ring?

[bleak bolt]

Oh mb

[worthy basin]

I'll be taking that

[bleak bolt]

I played the game like 2 years ago but I forgot everything

[worthy basin]

[bleak bolt]

I barely remember how my playthrough went and people were calling me a larper in another server yesterday :[

[worthy basin]

Rip

[kind quail]

Og clone wars arc trooper pfp spotted

[bleak bolt]

Clone Wars 2003 micro series

[kind quail]

Indeed

[worthy basin]

Insert old man blowing off dust of a book image here

[worthy basin]

How does one enjoy the godskins

It's just crappy ornstein and smaug

[kind quail]

but cooler

[jagged widget]

I know, my boy is also great

[worthy basin]

eh

[mental yarrow]

going to work, pray for me

[meager pasture]

Placidusx is so hard man

[worthy basin]

What build are you using?

[kind quail]

is it his claw cloud attack thats getting you

[twilit steeple]

Sad

[native stream]

Well yeah he's made of rocks

[twilit steeple]

Can't blame him he is cool

[meager pasture]

I tried using a bleed build first then a strength build now a stronger bleed build and I’m still doing no damage

[kind quail]

use ancinet dragon lightning strike against him. shreds him to bits

[worthy basin]

ah

[meager pasture]

Are there any other types of builds than bleed and strength anyway

[worthy basin]

He's a Shard Spiral victim i noticed

[meager pasture]

I don’t think so

[jagged widget]

Do NOT do this, appreciate placi in all of his greatness

[twilit steeple]

What bro ofc there is

[kind quail]

chicken leg

[native stream]

Ideally you would use anchor or claymore for him but also if you're still not doing good damage it's probably not a good build lol

[worthy basin]

I lowk skipped him and fought him later on on my first run

[twilit steeple]

Tbh I didn't even know he was there in the first place

[mental yarrow]

“dont kill him the way he supposed to be killed kill him with 457 tried and a sword”

[kind quail]

during my dragon and lightning only run i killed him in 20 seconds using it because i didnt expect it to one shot him

[meager pasture]

I was thinking abt using his remembrance sword to kill him

[worthy basin]

Haha real

[kind quail]

dookie thrusting sword

[meager pasture]

Alright I’ll try claymore

[kind quail]

we shouldve gotten his claws man

[native stream]

Placidusucks I'm sorry that boss is 💤

[twilit steeple]

Try finger but hole

[kind quail]

literally

[twilit steeple]

[meager pasture]

We did in a spell I think

[jagged widget]

ADLS is kind of unbalanced, similar to how perfumes worked when the DLC first came out

[kind quail]

we get his offbrand ghidorah breath

[jagged widget]

Do you play with volume off

[twilit steeple]

No bro he is the first lord of the lands between bruh

He is great

[kind quail]

yeah yeah. old bum weakened by bayle

wtv. FRAUD

[native stream]

OST doesn't save mid gameplay for me

[celest remnant]

old bayle weakened by bum

HEHEHE CURSE YOU BAYLE

[quick socket]

placidusax is literally a fine boss

[meager pasture]

Yk ur breath stinks when it can take 2000 hp off someone in a second

[kind quail]

hes fine. he isnt wicked

[native stream]

Smack the tail simulator

[quick socket]

he has attacks and attack opportunities you cant really ask for more

[summer jetty]

you got time?

[quick socket]

well no not really

[kind quail]

smack the midsection simulator

[native stream]

That's the optimal way of fighting him I fear

[quick socket]

i guess that's one way to play it but that just sounds like self inflicted boredom at that point

[kind quail]

efficency is boring

[sick storm]

isn't that just every boss ever made

[native stream]

The other ways aren't really any more enjoyable for me either

[steel wasp]

i killed him wooohooooo

[quick socket]

the optimal way to play elden ring as a whole isn't fun either you can script every fight

[jagged widget]

And phase 2 makes it different

[steel wasp]

Without npc

[kind quail]

we got buff routine 1 and buff routine 2

[pastel cove]

well I would like to be able to use a rocket launcher against placidusax

[kind quail]

take it or leave it

[jagged widget]

Cannon of haima

[kind quail]

prime placidusax vs balteus v2

[pastel cove]

I meant rocket launcher as in the stuff tf2 solder has

[kind quail]

balteus v2 the hardest boss in ac6 istg

robot malenia had nothing on him

[jagged widget]

You wouldn't want that, ER fall damage is brutal

[kind quail]

probably doesnt help that we have like, 60+ pounds of armor and equipment on us at all times

[summer jetty]

could anyone lead me to the fat godskin

ill make a vc and stream there

[kind quail]

im not fat 😢

[quick socket]

that sounds quite boring really

well no a jar cannon build could be nice

[jagged widget]

Are you pleasantly plump?

[kind quail]

im not answering that\

[summer jetty]

so could anyone lead me

[kind quail]

which noble are you looking for

[jagged widget]

Awh

[bleak bolt]

Imagine if I stopped larping Elden Ring /j

[summer jetty]

theres a skinny one and a fat one

[quick socket]

hello hello juliet

[summer jetty]

guess which one i mentioned

[kind quail]

the noble

godskins nobles are the fat ones

[bleak bolt]

“Godskin Enjoyer” okay bro 🫩

[kind quail]

😢

[summer jetty]

its easier to just call them fat or skinny

[bleak bolt]

Godskin? More like.. More like..
FORESKIN! 😂😂😂😂

[languid tinsel]

anyone help with placidusax?

[kind quail]

either way, which godskin noble are you looking for

[summer jetty]

the one in the volcano

[kind quail]

oh, its through the torture village and then you gotta walk through some lava and do a lil parkour up there. i forgot the exact route ngl

[summer jetty]

could we go in a vc

[kind quail]

no

[summer jetty]

alr

ima look on yt

[kind quail]

its 1 am for me bronana

[dusky dune]

The Apostle doesn't concern himself with human ways of communication.

[summer jetty]

its 1 pm for me

[kind quail]

Zamn

[twilit steeple]

Go to sleep 😭

[kind quail]

Im studying 🐊

[twilit steeple]

Oh nice

[summer jetty]

i guess we are on other sides of the planet

[twilit steeple]

Exams ?

[mental yarrow]

crazy

[kind quail]

I got home early to study but I didnt start till like 2 hours ago

I fell asleep 💔

[twilit steeple]

Sad

[jagged widget]

Make an earth sandwich together

[twilit steeple]

It's almost 1 pm for me as well

[kind quail]

Yeah my professor decided to give us one right after spring break so
At least I understand the material for once

[twilit steeple]

I see uni?

[kind quail]

✅

[mental yarrow]

opinions on a gay tarnished

the golden rule is now the rainbow rule, congratulations to all

[twilit steeple]

Nahhhh

[mental yarrow]

thats it, mods, take his mom

[summer jetty]

are you somewhere in russia?

[twilit steeple]

Nope a little far

[summer jetty]

kazachstan?

[twilit steeple]

No no as jn south Asia 😭

[mental yarrow]

is a stan country

paxtan bcuz the bio is islamic

[twilit steeple]

Yup

[mental yarrow]

gg

im the goat

[twilit steeple]

Ggs

[pastel cove]

I think you just hate fun

how do you see the most fun and interesting idea on the planet and go "Yeah actually this is garbage"

[mental yarrow]

bcuz omg im so unique

[pastel cove]

longcat tail talisman

[jagged widget]

Subjective

[jagged widget]

That doesn't save you from lethal heights, barely does anything sadly

[pastel cove]

it says it negates fall damage in the description

[jagged widget]

It eh
Isn't as good as advertised

[quick socket]

it negates it when the fall only damages you

[pastel cove]

does it not negate fall damage

[celest remnant]

i don't negate fall damage

[jagged widget]

For the most part it does not

[celest remnant]

in fact, I increase it

do you believe in gravity?

[native stream]

"Grants immunity to fall damage, but does not prevent death from a high fall." Is what it also says

[pastel cove]

okay thats entirely on fromsoft then why would they put negates fall damage in the description when it doesnt

[native stream]

Any fall above 20 metres kills you regardless

Any fall below that doesn't do enough damage where using the talisman is merited

[twilit steeple]

Waste of talisman pouch no?

[native stream]

Correct

[twilit steeple]

Yay

[jagged widget]

I consider it the 2nd worst talisman in the game

[native stream]

There's only one talisman I consider to be more useless and that's crucible knot

[jagged widget]

Apart from daedicars woe

[native stream]

Daedicar's has its place at least

[jagged widget]

Where?

[native stream]

Challenge running mostly

[jagged widget]

Whats crucible knot though

[pastel cove]

what about entwining umbilical cord

[jagged widget]

Is it the counterattack one

[jagged widget]

What is that

[native stream]

Reduces headshot damage

[celest remnant]

I am the counterattack one

[native stream]

A talisman that isn't in the game

[ebon solstice]

Who's stronger makka pakka or maliketh the black blade

[native stream]

It would swap your male animations for female animations and vice versa

It turned out to be redundant now because men and women have the same animations

[twilit steeple]

May I ask who is makka pakka 😭

[jagged widget]

Oh I remember that one

I honestly don't know how often headshot damage occurs

[ebon solstice]

U don't know makka pakka????
He is the cleanest character on fiction
His Arabic name is clean clean

[sand coral]

How would that be even helpful?

[native stream]

Almost never

[jagged widget]

It took me a while to realise it was even a thing

[native stream]

The reduction is only like 15% too so it's made redundant by dragoncrest shield

[native stream]

It was a thing in previous souls games, idk

[pastel cove]

it changes the demeanor of your actions

[native stream]

And isn't in the game

[jagged widget]

Best talisman ever

[sand coral]

Sounds pretty useless.

[native stream]

I can only imagine maybe a questline or something would have things to do with the player's gender

Otherwise, no clue what it was used for

[jagged widget]

Maybe a rennala feature

[native stream]

Yeah that bit also makes it redundant tbh

Seeing as you can freely change your characters appearance at no cost

(Unlike say, DS3 where it cost a covenant item)

[jagged widget]

Then it's probably just mindlessly imported and scrapped

[native stream]

Yeah, a lot of talismans in ER were rings in previous souls titles

[sand coral]

Hmm. Questlines for specific genders wouldn't make any sense but maybe something else.

[native stream]

Ritual Sword and Shield talismans were Lloyd Sword and Shield rings for example

[jagged widget]

And there's rtsr

[native stream]

Red/Blue Feathered Branch Sword?
Red/Blue Tearstone Ring

[narrow orbit]

Trans ring mentioned!

[native stream]

Correct!!!

[narrow orbit]

Well it's mostly for aesthetics I suppose
And it's significant to Gwyndolin who was raised in a more feminine way

[native stream]

I gotta play DS1 and DS2 man

[narrow orbit]

And it's really funny because we find it in the place where we perform a strictly straight marriage

[native stream]

So glad they made Ranni bisexual

[hexed kernel]

ds1 is pretty decent
idfk anything about ds2 but ig there is a reason why people here glaze it so much

[jagged widget]

I remember that, in ds3 right?

[narrow orbit]

Yes

[sand coral]

Oh, he was raised like that? I thought that's what he wanted or something. I don't know any Dark Souls lore. I spent all my skill points on ER lore.

[jagged widget]

I never understood why we got it because DS3 was my first souls

I do now lol ty

[native stream]

I've still not done all endings in DS3 either

[ebon solstice]

Mostly trolling if they glaze ds2
But honestly it's a good game
If u run past everyone yes you will get overwhelmed and iron keep makes me wanna explode every house in minecraft
However the game is pretty good

[narrow orbit]

Ds3 had better endings IMO

[native stream]

Still missing Lord of Hollows and I'm on the verge of the one where you give Firekeeper eyes

[ebon solstice]

And i think everyone should give it a chance

[native stream]

I just need to beat Soul of Cinder which is a biiig ask for SL1 No Roll

[ebon solstice]

Ds3 rarely leaves my top 3 souls

[sick trellis]

congrats

[ebon solstice]

Why......
Just why are u doing no roll

[jagged widget]

Is yoel of Londor the one that gives lord of hollowa

[narrow orbit]

Most of us aren't trolling
Maybe some play it up a little bit when comparing it to other games but our statements about the game are genuine

[native stream]

Compared to ER? Totally agree

[native stream]

I'm most of the way there already lol
17/25 bosses

[signal crown]

🙂

[narrow orbit]

Compared to every other souls game I think

[ebon solstice]

As i said game is good
But it's both overhated and overrated depending on who u ask

[ebon solstice]

I did a sl1 on my ps4 and i might do it again
But u know what i enjoy TANKING THAT LIKE HULK

[narrow orbit]

That's ds1

[ebon solstice]

Tanking those hits like I'm venom

[native stream]

Most of my kills on SL1 No Roll were hitless

[sand coral]

Dark Souls 2 is not that bad, in my opinion. Everyone has their own subjective opinion of that game.

[ebon solstice]

No duh

Runs like this feel like nightmare king grimm
One hit is enough to throw u off rhythm

[sand coral]

I completely forgot about my RL1 ER run. I haven't touched that game in months.

[native stream]

All 17 I've done so far are on my YouTube, I think the only ones that weren't Flawless (Hitless) are Yhorm and Oceiros

[stoic iron]

nkg my beloved

[jagged widget]

How far did you get

[ebon solstice]

Consort radahn literally broke me
I went and brought a summon
The only boss i summoned against in the whole rl1

[native stream]

Though for Yhorm stormruler is also banned lol

[stoic iron]

:uuh:

[ebon solstice]

Yhorm with no storm ruler is actually really fun

[quick pelican]

Guys , should I give curse mark of death to Fia? What it does?

[native stream]

Eh I don't really agree

[ebon solstice]

i was tweaking that night

[native stream]

You just bait out the same attack and smack his head

[sand coral]

I killed Morgot and all the other main bosses. Including some optional remembrance bosses. Astel and Ancestral Spirit.

[native stream]

She goes sleepy time and you get to fight a dragon

[jagged widget]

Nice

[quick pelican]

Thank you

[ebon solstice]

Until he jumped across the arena (attack I've never seen before btw) and made me scream like a girl....

[native stream]

Never seen him do that before lol

[sand coral]

I did a no hit of him a long time ago. I understand your pain. I'm so washed now.

[native stream]

Then again I've only killed him twice so alas

[ebon solstice]

I could've done it with no summon and no hit
That second phase was just way too much bs for me

[jagged widget]

My rl1 save corrupted right before PCR
I've Been saved lmao

[native stream]

SL1 no roll is my second ever PT of DS3
It's better that way so that I don't develop too much muscle memory I then need to get rid of

[sand coral]

The thing is that I wasn't using any armor, buffs, talismans. Literally nothing. Just a club and big dreams.

[ebon solstice]

What? U didn't do like 20 dark souls 3 runs?

[native stream]

Gundyr took the longest out of all the bosses I did

[sand coral]

I don't even blame you, dude.

[jagged widget]

Wow
I was only restricting stat boosts

[native stream]

SL1 no roll alone has been like a 60 hour playthrough, I could've beaten the game plenty of times in that time but I chose not to lol

[ebon solstice]

Trust me it's a blessing from god

[jagged widget]

😁
I did have to do malenia though..

[native stream]

Also worth noting that no roll bans blocking and parrying by extension hence the difficulty

I loved doing Malenia RL1

[ebon solstice]

I did sl1 in ds3 and elden
Thinking about bl4 and sl1 in dark souls 1 but like.....
I wanna tank those hits

[native stream]

Like how I'm enjoying doing Mohg RL1 +0 No Aux

[sand coral]

Well, good for you. 'Cause I died more than 500+ to SCR.

[jagged widget]

D:

[ebon solstice]

No she's fun actually
Even tho her phase 2 is pretty chaotic she's still a very fun fight
PCR phase 2 tho...... i hate it with every perfect cell in my body

[native stream]

Did someone say perfect cell

[sand coral]

Perfect cell?

[ebon solstice]

Mohg is just muwah of a fight

[sand coral]

inserts the gif.

[jagged widget]

PERFECT cell?!
Its just that waterfowl still remains a problem for me

[ebon solstice]

Idk man this tall bug wants to fight me

[native stream]

S tier easily

[ebon solstice]

When u learn how to dodge it it becomes satisfying

[sand coral]

He's too perfect for you. You shouldn't fight him.

[native stream]

I'm estimating that with my current setup the kill will be about 5 minutes long which is awesome

[jagged widget]

One of my earbuds is defective, but it sounds better because I hear slightly different parts of a song

[ebon solstice]

Why is he charging a beam while starting at me?

[jagged widget]

I should've practiced circling the waterfowl at RL 150

[ebon solstice]

I still have trouble with that

[pastel cove]

Dark Souls 2 doesn't have gwynevere or ranni

[sand coral]

Say your prayers, mate. I'll pray for you too.

[native stream]

Nah, just do base stats and 99 vigor with a +0 weapon if you wanna practice

[bleak bolt]

Blazing Bull in Sekiro lowkey makes me wanna end it all 🥹

[native stream]

Low damage and high survivability are the best ways to learn

[sand coral]

We got Emerald Maiden.

[jagged widget]

Not a +0 weapon if it's just waterfowl, I need to bring the hp down

[ebon solstice]

Hold up ur cooking something here
That's it dark souls 1 is the besst souls game cus it have gwynevere

[native stream]

Might as well learn the rest of the fight perfectly too

[ebon solstice]

Emerald maiden is 10/10
But is she a giant woman with ummm
A big heart?

[bleak bolt]

Y’know I never got why people suggest Elden Ring as the first Soulsborne game to play.. imo it’s one of the worst first ones to play

[sand coral]

Oh my God, dude. I feel you. He literally made me quit the game for two months when I first started playing it.

[native stream]

You can also force waterfowl once she passes the HP threshold by spamming fan daggers

[sick trellis]

whys that

[jagged widget]

Done that pretty much already,

[sand coral]

Yes, she's very sweet and kind.

[ebon solstice]

Is she giant tho

[sick storm]

i need to derust from er so bad

[jagged widget]

"woman"

[sick storm]

nightreign has made me awful at those bosses

[native stream]

Go my child, do an RL1 run

[sick storm]

genchat it's 9am please be normal

[ebon solstice]

What is gwynevere if she isn't a woman? Potato?

[bleak bolt]

You’re gonna be looking at guides more than playing the game, big open world with little direction, combat feels off in this game specifically, confusing story you need to do outside of game research into to understand it and a bunch of other things

Just because it’s the easiest doesn’t mean it’s the best to start out with

[sand coral]

Definitely not. It's objectively the best considering it's way easier than the others.

[jagged widget]

Play ds1

[sick storm]

i've done that twice already! started an rl1 wl0 save

[ebon solstice]

I did? Many times?

[sick storm]

realised im washed and went back to sts2 : )

[wispy jolt]

it depends on the person id say

[sick trellis]

combat feels off?
also I played DS3 after ER and I felt that elden ring feels much better

[sand coral]

No, she's normal human size.

[native stream]

wl0 is technically a ds1 only restriction yippee!!

[jagged widget]

Go back to Gwynevere and shoot her

[bleak bolt]

Most of the time, a new player is gonna do what I just described

[ebon solstice]

I know what happens
I won't shoot her.....

[sick trellis]

i never had to check guides really and the quest breakpoints are very clearly expressed to you

[sick storm]

yeah idk i haven't look at any rulesets etc

i just hit the boss and reset the fight if i get hit : )

[native stream]

For ER we just say +0

[ebon solstice]

U know what's funny
Miyazaki's vision when he made gwynevere

[bleak bolt]

I didn’t know you were very new Soulsborne player

[sick storm]

ah fair fair

[sick trellis]

I've finished the game 10 times

[sick storm]

i did a couple fights rl1 +0 but that was like 2 years ago at this point

[bleak bolt]

Sekiro is BY FAR a better Soulsborne to jump into first

[sick trellis]

alr bro ur trolling lmao

[sand coral]

No!!

[bleak bolt]

How?

[native stream]

Sekiro is both not a souls game and has an entirely different combat system what

[sand coral]

Just no.

[ebon solstice]

Miyazaki said he wanted a kind loving woman who can pick you up in her hand
And so he made gwynevere

[bleak bolt]

The only thing Sekiro has worse than ER is that it’s harder

[ebon solstice]

And he perfected that

[native stream]

It's not even

[sick storm]

true but also sekiro is peak and u should play it

[wispy jolt]

i wont deny that quite a few people will do what you describe, but i do know quite a few people, many of which with no souls or even rpg background do fully blind first playthrougs. in saying that, some of my other friends have gotten lost very quickly, lost interest and dont see the appeal in the game

[sand coral]

I started with Sekiro. I deleted it 5 times.

[sick storm]

that was my first fromsoft game

played bb second, first tried p much every snigle boss because i knew how to parry

[bleak bolt]

Sekiro was also my first Soulsborne

[native stream]

It's not soulsborne

[bleak bolt]

Never looked back, best one to start with

[sick trellis]

sekiro has an entirely different combat system, a different leveling system, diff mechanics-
its an entirely different game, an incredible one yeah but it is not the best soulsborne to start with

[bleak bolt]

Debatable

[native stream]

It isn't

It's not a souls game, lmao

[ebon solstice]

Sekiro doesn't have my guiding moonlight

[bleak bolt]

It is tho

[sick trellis]

Elden Ring's open world gives the player so much freedom that new players can easily slip into it

[bleak bolt]

As someone who started out with Sekiro, it’s literally the best one to start out with 😭

[sick trellis]

you're speaking from a personal bias

[ebon solstice]

No guiding moonlight=not a soulsborne

[bleak bolt]

I’m speaking from experience 😭

[native stream]

Jarvis give me 4 cups of bias and hold the reasoning

[sand coral]

After Sekiro, every other Fromslop games are easy in a sense that you get used to getting your ass kicked 100+ times.

[sick storm]

ac6 is a soulslike

[sick trellis]

I SWEAR the Divine Dragon's sword is Sekiros equivalent of the Moonlight Greatsword

[sick storm]

it has a posture bar, it's also a sekiro like

[ebon solstice]

Jarvis send a missile to this individual's setup

[ebon solstice]

I never played it

[sick storm]

good game

[sick trellis]

There are literally so many people who started with Elden Ring and then went back to play the DS series

[weak tapir]

thops

[ebon solstice]

NENENE can u use it? No
Not a souls game

[ebon solstice]

Thor

[bleak bolt]

Didn’t know so many people messed up their first Soulsborne experience

[native stream]

My first experience is the only valid first experience because I said so

[sand coral]

Sekiro is a souls game. ✌️

[sick trellis]

Fair enough... you can pick the lazulite axe which is KIND OF the moonlight... axe...

[wispy jolt]

elden ring is by far the most played souls game, so it would only make sense

[sick trellis]

holy ragebait...

[ebon solstice]

Ahh you were at my side all along
My true mentor
My guiding moonlight

[sick storm]

start with dark souls 2

[bleak bolt]

I think someone’s first Soulsborne experience should be based on the games they’ve played and enjoyed

[sick storm]

after that, play dark souls 2 again

[ebon solstice]

No claymore
No moonlight gs
Not a souls game
Shush

[bleak bolt]

“It’s ragebait because I don’t agree with their opinion” amazing argument dude 😭 10/10

[sick trellis]

Mortal blade is lowk a claymore

[sand coral]

😭

[wispy jolt]

holy ragebait contingency plans

[bleak bolt]

By this logic Fortnite is still the best live service game 😭

[ebon solstice]

that thing is rivers of blood

[sick trellis]

you are genuinely arguing that the game with the least soulsborne mechanics is the best game to start with the soulsborne genre

[sick trellis]

its technically Rakshasa's great katana

[ebon solstice]

I'm gonna bite u if u say its a souls game again

[flat dune]

but it is a souls game

[wispy jolt]

what logic?? i just said that elden ring is the most played souls game

[ebon solstice]

Does it do shwing shwong? No

[sand coral]

It's a soulsborne game though.

[ebon solstice]

Now this
Is someone who wants to get bitten

[ebon solstice]

Gimme ur ear

[flat dune]

mortal blade is literally just rivers of blood ash of war

[sick trellis]

i genuinely dont know why ppl say sekiro is a soulsborne
what does it have in common with the genre

[flat dune]

the devs maybe

[sand coral]

Gives the ear.
What do you want to tell me?

[ebon solstice]

Exactly
Mortal blade is rivers of blood on steroids

[jagged widget]

Oh yeah? Name one soul

[ebon solstice]

I'm gonna bite it off

[flat dune]

which makes sekiro a souls game

[ebon solstice]

Does it have moonlight gs? Claymore? Nuh uh
Gimma ur ear

[bleak bolt]

As I said, I like games like Sekiro before I played it.

Hi Fi Rush, Nioh 1, Black Myth Wukong, Sonic Frontiers (a stretch but it’s kinda similar) and etc.

I’ve also never really liked open world games much, the only one I have enjoyed is technically Sonic Frontiers (depends how you view it really) and Insomniac’s Spider-Man games, I have never been able to get into BOTW, TOTK, Minecraft, TLOU or any other open world game because they don’t click for me.

So objectively, for people like me, Sekiro IS a better choice to start out with (or Bloodborne).

[flat dune]

ever heard of mods

technically yes it does thanks to mods

[lime brook]

i wanna start new journey 2 but the reason why is so i can get the other endings on my first playthrough i got Elden lord ending idk about the others but how can i get the other endgins what what am i suppose to do im asking because every yt video spoils the endings

[ebon solstice]

Ur MoDs are not included

[flat dune]

who said so tho

[sick trellis]

you describe your OPINIONS then you say its objectively right???
also it has literally no soulsborne mechanics it doesnt even have leveling

[sand coral]

Soulslike games are those that are difficult and have a mechanic where you lose your currency when you die. So Sekiro is a soulslike. A soulslike game made by Fromsoft is called a soulsborne. So Sekiro is a soulsborne game.

[ebon solstice]

Well i can put firekeeper in no i am not a human
Therefore no i am not a human is a souls game

[sick trellis]

you cant get an ending after youve gotten your first one

[bleak bolt]

Fortnite is also the most played live service so is it the best live service to play? Just using your logic here

[flat dune]

but its misssing a crucial part

[sand coral]

Soul.

[bleak bolt]

It’s objective for people LIKE ME, are you blind? 😭

[ebon solstice]

What is it

[flat dune]

its not made by fromsoftt

[wispy jolt]

reread my messages

[sand coral]

I don't taste good.

[sick trellis]

it doesnt have leveling, it doesn't have swapping weapons..

[lime brook]

i meant on my ng+

[ebon solstice]

I can mod fromsoftware startup flashbang

[bleak bolt]

“I can’t abuse the game! Waaahhhh!!”

[flat dune]

but its missing all the special fromsoft touches

[ebon solstice]

Idc I'm biting ur ear off and then gonna drink mouthwash like dishsoap or something

[sand coral]

That's not a criteria of a soulslike. Also it does have leveling up.

[bleak bolt]

“I have to actually git gud!! Waaaahhhh!!”

[ebon solstice]

Does it have patches?

[flat dune]

Sekiro best game in fromsoftware catalog and its not even close (excluding AC because i never played any of that YET)

[sand coral]

Sekiro is a soulsborne. It just is.

[bleak bolt]

Soulsborne fans when they can’t abuse a games systems to one shot everything

[flat dune]

maybe

[sand coral]

🪑

[ebon solstice]

Hold up
Arabic..... i can come bite u ur not that far away

[ebon solstice]

No
I'm biting

[native stream]

Sekiro is probably the easiest FS game to trivialise

[flat dune]

butt you cant tho im in a middle of a not so accessible place

[flat dune]

just be good and its the easiest thing ever

[ebon solstice]

That's what I'm saiyan
The hardest one to get into but once u get the combat down it's so easy

[bleak bolt]

ER is by far the easiest Soulsborne game

[sand coral]

Yes.

[flat dune]

isshin likes to disagree

[frozen patrol]

Idk souls too

[flat dune]

the only boss i actually never killed EVER

[ebon solstice]

Oh......
I think i know which one u mean
Gonna make it accessible just so i can bite u

[bleak bolt]

It’s so easy to abuse the in game systems

[native stream]

You don't even need to get the combat down

[ebon solstice]

He cheats cus he have a pew pew

[flat dune]

as long as its accessible

[frozen patrol]

Isshin is deadass so easy

[winter kestrel]

What to do in the Mountaintops?

[bleak bolt]

That’s why Soulsborne fans don’t like Sekiro, they can’t abuse the systems to one shot everything and need to actually git gud

[native stream]

You can literally just force enemies into corners and or firecrackers and make everything brainless

[flat dune]

the deflect button doesnt discriminate

[frozen patrol]

There are multiple guns throughout the entire game

[ebon solstice]

And i smack him before he pew

[sand coral]

It's not even about abusing. You can literally explore and get strong as hell and come back and beat the ass of the boss you're struggling with.

[ebon solstice]

U comparing those bums to bug ish

[frozen patrol]

???

[flat dune]

they dont like it because it forces you to be aggressive to win which isnt your typical souls gamer

[winter kestrel]

??.

[bleak bolt]

It’s ironic that Elden Ring is also the single game where I’ve seen the most “early build! One shot everything!” Videos out of any video game

[ebon solstice]

Bloodborne does that

[flat dune]

explore and have fun

[frozen patrol]

No but you’re acting like his gun is something out of the world

[sand coral]

Keep going up, towards the big forge.

[haughty ruin]

Does this game still have an active player base in colosseum

[sand coral]

Also explore first.

[flat dune]

no pss4 so no bb so i wouldnt know

[ebon solstice]

I didn't

[sand coral]

That should be your main priority.

[bleak bolt]

Then again, let’s not act as if the combat system in ER lets you express skill that much

[ebon solstice]

No bloodborne
What a nightmare
A hunter's nightmare

[frozen patrol]

Almost like Elden ring is the biggest and has had the largest number of media surrounding it..?

[winter kestrel]

Blasphemous blade works in the Mountaintops?

[frozen patrol]

“He cheats cause he has a gun”

[bleak bolt]

Or it’s almost as if the player base hates the concept of struggling against a boss

[eager citrus]

you still can with tight positioning and ducks/strafes/jumps

[sand coral]

It does. Bosses are well made. You can cheese, yes. But it does require skill to beat them.

[frozen patrol]

Genuinely what are you saying

[flat dune]

only expression of skill is no hitting stuff at low lvl or RL1

[frozen patrol]

RL1 is really goddamn easy

[eager citrus]

scripted fights lowk

[sand coral]

Wowie, I'm a skillful player.

[flat dune]

and thats the thing tho

[ebon solstice]

He have a sword, spear and a gun
I only have a sword and fake arm(also i was sarcastic isshin is kne of the best fights in gaming history)

[eager citrus]

do ng+7 +0

[frozen patrol]

like Elden rings rl1 without scripting is still the easiest SL1

[ebon solstice]

U know what

[frozen patrol]

??????

[flat dune]

i really agree with that definitely best boss of all time

[eager citrus]

also you can absolutely abuse the systems in sekiro

[bleak bolt]

That the whole argument for not playing Sekiro first is “oh it doesn’t let you level up the same way as any other Soulsborne game” it’s so obvious that people saying this don’t like the concept of not being able to abuse the level up systems in Soulsborne games to one shot everything, they actually need to try instead of 3 shot staggering every boss.

[sand coral]

No buffs, no upgrades, no talismans, no flaskd, no AOW, only club.

[ebon solstice]

Dark souls 1 is the best of all of them cus it have gwynevere

[minor tiger]

Hello

[flat dune]

hes basically john fighter

[eager citrus]

jumping mortal draw exists

[bleak bolt]

Not really

[sand coral]

🪑

[ebon solstice]

One of....
Inner owl father is better imo

[frozen patrol]

The reason people don’t play Sekiro first is cause it’s not a fckin souls game

[native stream]

Sekiro is very easy to trivialise even by mistake

[sand coral]

Boss abuse.

[flat dune]

you can abuse the system in every fromsoft game

[bleak bolt]

It is tho

[flat dune]

therefore sekiro = souls game

[eager citrus]

boss ai is also incredibly lacking to the point you can loop them by attacking 💀

[frozen patrol]

1st trying Isshin after 2 months not playing

[sand coral]

It is.

[bleak bolt]

As someone who has played Sekiro first, real glad I played it before Elden Ring

[frozen patrol]

And your argument is immediately gone!!

[ebon solstice]

I can abuse the system in minecraft too
And abuse the minecraft mobs for my personal gain

[native stream]

Luna check dm

[eager citrus]

not to mention any sort of positioning in sekiro breaks boss ai too

[flat dune]

literally same

[eager citrus]

I saw 😭

[sand coral]

Preach, mate. preach.

[frozen patrol]

It isn’t lmao, literally misses every piece of customisability and player freedom

[flat dune]

thats just game mechanics

[bleak bolt]

ER players when they can’t 3 shot every boss

[eager citrus]

also not to mention firecrackers

[frozen patrol]

The modern perception of what a souls game is is so bad, people genuinely think Bonfires make a souls game a souls game

[bleak bolt]

The average Sekiro player could beat the best ER player

[sand coral]

Soulslike are games that are generally difficult and have a currency that is lost upon death. Sekiro has both.

[eager citrus]

in pvp or

[native stream]

Ragebait used to be believable

[flat dune]

this is very true

[frozen patrol]

Just making stuff up

[bleak bolt]

Yes

[eager citrus]

💀💀💀

[bleak bolt]

Not really

[native stream]

[frozen patrol]

In elden ring PvP?😭

[ebon solstice]

And i abuse it by locking 20 villagers in a 1x1 place to get what i want
Mending or your life is ending

[eager citrus]

ragebait icl

[sand coral]

Woah, woah. Two completely different games.

[frozen patrol]

Pretty much really

[native stream]

You need to work on your perception of yourself gang

[bleak bolt]

Why is ER the single game where I see the most “early build! One shot everything!” Videos?

[flat dune]

its a sandbox game you are what you want and everything is in your hand

[frozen patrol]

Son

[flat dune]

the game is made like that

[eager citrus]

because it's the most popular and has the most tools accessible in it

[bleak bolt]

Why do ER players hate the concept of not being able to abuse level up systems to one shot everything?

[sand coral]

Because there isn't one on Sekiro. Ever thought about that?

[native stream]

Maybe because it sold 30 million copies and people want to capitalise on that???

[ebon solstice]

I know
I still enjoy doing that

[sick storm]

i wonder why

[bleak bolt]

Why do ER players hate the concept of actually needing to try against a boss?

[frozen patrol]

It is the biggest souls game ever made…
With nearly quadruple the customisability of DS3…

[eager citrus]

companion 😭😭😭

[frozen patrol]

They don’t! You’re genuinely make stuff up lmao

[bleak bolt]

Not really

[frank granite]

thats like a very small portion of the community imo

[flat dune]

elden ring players when they cant bleed a boss to deaht in 0.5 seconds

[eager citrus]

sekiro bosses are awful at being functional

[exotic marsh]

Im mad, Im gonna cheese the hell out of Godfrey.

Im switching to strength

[eager citrus]

they're almost tied with bloodborne bosses with how easy you can exploit their AI

[frozen patrol]

Me when my rebuttal to being called out for misinformation is just “nuh uh”

[bleak bolt]

Atleast you can’t abuse the systems to the point where you can one shot them 😭

[frozen patrol]

Cause they’re tied to specific patterns cause that’s how Sekiro works lol

[native stream]

There isn't another FS title where you can completely trivialise the boss entirely by accident

[ebon solstice]

dude the punisher is so tuff

[frozen patrol]

That’s not abuse it’s quite literally build creativity? And in no way are one shot builds a bad thing

[eager citrus]

not even talking about how they got 2 followups after being aggressive

[sand coral]

You can skip 70% of the bosses with glitches. Then you have jumping mortal draw and firecrackers so yeah.

[frank granite]

its pretty funny tho

[eager citrus]

they fold to any sort of positioning or aiming slightly away so they can't deflect

[hexed kernel]

sekiro bosses are unfun
maybe except sword saint

[flat dune]

literally one of the most fun bossess

[bleak bolt]

Sekiro bosses are more fun than ER bosses

[eager citrus]

guardian ape is the only good sekiro boss because he utilizes positioning and more than just deflects

[frozen patrol]

How Sekiro fans felt finding blazing bull skip

[flat dune]

the combatt is soo satsfying too

[hexed kernel]

EW

[bleak bolt]

You can skip blazing bull?

[sand coral]

🪑

[frozen patrol]

That’s a cool OPINION man

[sand coral]

Nerds.

[frozen patrol]

SON😭

[flat dune]

as a regular casual why do you need to skip / abuse boss AI

[bleak bolt]

I did NOT know you could skip blazing bull 😭

[flat dune]

lets be real here

[hexed kernel]

not at all
they are literally the most miserable bosses i have fought

[sand coral]

I just like games.

[bleak bolt]

Cause they can’t beat a Sekiro boss

[frozen patrol]

Son, I’m crine
You don’t know my guy Sekiro like that

[sand coral]

I like playing games.

[bleak bolt]

They can’t abuse the systems to 3 shot it so they just skip it

[flat dune]

just have fun and enjoy the game

[frozen patrol]

Just no true lol

[scarlet python]

er and sekiro are completely different games

[frozen patrol]

What’re you genuinely on about

[native stream]

As a regular casual why do you need to pull out trivialising builds? It's the same damn logic you're using

[frozen patrol]

You’re talking like every player ever has done a one shot build, which by the way aren’t even easy to do

[native stream]

This is functionally the same thing 😭

[frozen patrol]

They’re just tedious.

[eager citrus]

also you're on PlayStation right

[frank granite]

😭

[bleak bolt]

And Sekiro is a better game to start out with if you don’t really like open world games

[flat dune]

i never used that argument wrong guy 😭 i love enjoying the game how its supposed to be enjoyed

[native stream]

Argue with your mate then.

[hexed kernel]

i'd recommend dark souls 3

[bleak bolt]

Yeah, I got both games (Sekiro and ER) on PC and only Sekiro and Bloodborne on PS

[flat dune]

Lets not forget that sekiro is the first game where jumping is actually jumping

[frozen patrol]

The only difference is just souls games have the customisability where Sekiro, isn’t a souls game! It lacks all genuine customisability

[sand coral]

I never use glitches and one shot builds 'cause, for the love of God, my brain is too dumb for those.

[bleak bolt]

I just wouldn’t suggest ER

[eager citrus]

whose online for PC rn let me think

not avari

[flat dune]

they also ruin the fun of the boss

[eager citrus]

or yhorm

[frozen patrol]

Armored Core

[bleak bolt]

Ah yes because the amount of customisation is what determines something as a SOULSBORNE GAME

[bleak bolt]

Peak

[native stream]

Famously yes???

[exotic marsh]

Guys, good strength weapons to dual wield, any suggestions? ( fyi: I do not have the dlc)

[frozen patrol]

Yes that is a very important factor in what determines a souls game lol

[trim juniper]

Star fist

[flat dune]

i mentioned before i never played them idek if they count as soulsborne

[frozen patrol]

???? They don’t and neither does Sekiro

[bleak bolt]

By this logic, The Sims 4 must be the most Soulsborne game to exist 😭

[sick storm]

exactly

[hexed kernel]

you can use a variety of combat art, ninjutsu and prosthetics
there is some form of customisability

[frozen patrol]

????

[sand coral]

My first ever cheese was on Demon of Hatred and yes, it ruined the fun. Beating it after dying 100+ times felt so much better. I never cheesed after that again.

[flat dune]

sekiro is 100% a souls game

[native stream]

Strawmanning, good job

[sick storm]

this is a sekiro like

[flat dune]

same only valid cheese

[sand coral]

True.

[sick storm]

the difference is this one is actually good

[frozen patrol]

It’s not lol

[sick storm]

(im larping, sekiro fun)

[frozen patrol]

Even Miyazaki had to say it isn’t one gang

[trim juniper]

Mh gooder

[sand coral]

It was the easiest to do. 😭

[bleak bolt]

Anyways as someone who tried out ER first (beat Margot or wtv his name is) and then switched to Sekrio, Sekiro was a better game to start out with for me

[frozen patrol]

Tell me what makes Sekiro a souls game

[frank granite]

Fordo lowk why are u in this server bro

[flat dune]

but i felt bad and went to do the legit way

[frozen patrol]

Let me guess “bosses, bonfires”

[eager citrus]

@chrome forge @quaint bobcat when either of you get on you should fight this guy in colo

I don't have pc

[bleak bolt]

My ER PC account is barely leveled and I don’t have PS plus 👍

[frozen patrol]

Avari no you’ll get destroyed, the average Sekiro player OWNS an Elden ring player!!!

[sick storm]

monter hunter

i need to do savage omega

[trim juniper]

Where's my dragonator

[frozen patrol]

Barely leveled like it matters, Avari will make a build on level lol

[flat dune]

nightreign most fun game ever ill just stick to that

[sick storm]

i fear i also need to get quite a lot of gear before i can do savage omega

[eager citrus]

avari is a halaxe demon but I'm lowk better I 3-0'd him the other day

[sand coral]

I had to suffer when I wanted to do Shura gauntlet. I had no experience with Demon of Hatred.

[trim juniper]

I wish I could play but school says nono

[bleak bolt]

Liked it more than Elden Ring cause it’s less abusable

[eager citrus]

@sick storm can you shamelessly post some of my WoA offmeta tourney practice clips :steamhappy:

[frozen patrol]

It’s funny because sleep is the one game without PvP so you genuinely believe experience in a game that’s exclusively PvE with no similar controls or gameplay mechanics would make you better

[sand coral]

It gets repetitive quickly.

[flat dune]

more replayability too and it has some of the best bossess ever

[sand coral]

I played for like 80 hours.

[flat dune]

i have 400 hours and still find it fresh

[bleak bolt]

Real

[frozen patrol]

Me when I’m wrong, also why are you so mad what OTHER people do in souls games lmao

[sick storm]

i would never abuse my file perms! (ye sure send them to me)

[sand coral]

That's crazy. Damn.

[sick storm]

kiiinda same

[bleak bolt]

I’m not wrong tho

[frozen patrol]

More replayability than Elden Ring is so endlessly subjective

[sick storm]

but i've still been playing it because i am very irresponsible

[native stream]

More replayablity 😭

[trim juniper]

True

[bleak bolt]

Why did you care so much that I think ER isn’t the best game to start out with 😭

[native stream]

J'ai aucune idée comment vous êtes réel

[trim juniper]

What that mean

[bleak bolt]

A better question to ask is what’s the best Soulslike game to start out with since there’s really none where you can abuse the systems in em (ER fan wouldn’t know which one to pick)

[sick storm]

idk something about expedition 33

[native stream]

I have no idea how youre real

[sand coral]

Well, it's your opinion but ER is objectively the best one to start with.

[bleak bolt]

Nope

[sand coral]

Okay.

[flat dune]

unless you start watching yt guides and tutorials

[bleak bolt]

If it’s objective then that means it’s the best for everyone

[native stream]

Cool argument, can you back up literally any of that

[flat dune]

kills the whole fun of the game

[frozen patrol]

That’s not what we care about, it’s the fact you’re spitting just misinformation and genuinely convincing yourself you’re right!

And Sekiro isn’t even a souls game to start out with so it makes it worse!

[bleak bolt]

Wasn’t the best for me, Sekiro was

[native stream]

"Sekiro was not designed as an evolution of Soulsborne, of the Souls series," series creator and Sekiro director Hidetaka Miyazaki told Gamespot.”

[sand coral]

You'll have to watch it for every game. But ER is the easiest.

[flat dune]

DS3 is in my opinion the best to start with

[frozen patrol]

This isn’t about your opinion

[bleak bolt]

It is the best to start out with tho for people like me

Literally said this before btw but you ignored that message..

[native stream]

Moving the goal posts now too

[flat dune]

not as big as elden ring but is very good and easy to pick up

[native stream]

a child, a baby even

[bleak bolt]

How convenient..

[eager citrus]

you'd start with the simplest and most accessible one (ds1) and continue the series from there

DeS isn't accessible due to being PlayStation exclusive and neither is bloodborne

[sick storm]

these are both me btw (lie)

[bleak bolt]

I meant as in like Hollow Knight, Black Myth Wukong, Khazan..

[native stream]

HK isn't a soulslike either

[flat dune]

soulslikes you say

[frozen patrol]

Sekiro lacks all customisability, no traditional leveling system (only ones to level damage and health, posture to deal with the games scaling, which aren’t comparable to souls because they aren’t customisable.)

It lacks all player freedom in fights, no different weapons to try, and the bare bones of what you do have are filler weapon skills that largely don’t differ from another.

[bleak bolt]

Listed as one on steam

[native stream]

😭

[trim juniper]

[flat dune]

isnt like the 2d platformer hard games their own genre?

[native stream]

Those are set by the community not the developer

[eager citrus]

wing of astel gaming love to see it

[frank granite]

[native stream]

Yes, it's called a metroidvania

[frozen patrol]

Yikes

[trim juniper]

Anything harder than your average game = souls like 🥀

[frozen patrol]

Appropriating what metroidvania means in big ol 26

[sick storm]

this is the best soulslike to start with btw

[trim juniper]

LMAO

[flat dune]

pih

[frozen patrol]

Have you seen the Indian one? Looks fire

[frank granite]

😭

[sick storm]

think i saw a clip of it ye

[bleak bolt]

Black Myth Wukong is pretty good

[trim juniper]

Have they ever listed monhun as souls like

😈

[frozen patrol]

Ok bro pack it up

[flat dune]

is wukong really a soulslike tho

[bleak bolt]

I would classify it as one

[frozen patrol]

Tried hard to be and failed miserably

[sick storm]

i WILL max evade window and evade extender and i WILL still triple cart

[flat dune]

wukong looks more of a boss rush type game

[sand coral]

Forget soulslike. We ALL are hoping on Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

[trim juniper]

Real

[bleak bolt]

20 million sales in like 24 hours btw

[rapid atlas]

METALGEAR

-# bruh

[bleak bolt]

To call Wukong a failure is like sticking your head into the sand

[frozen patrol]

Ok?

[flat dune]

its a good game but not a soulslike / good soulslike

[eager citrus]

@native stream I better see you join offmeta tourney or I'm making you do max ng no sprint/rings cinder

[sick storm]

chat pipe down, metalgear is speaking.

[glacial socket]

Hello John

[trim juniper]

The sales says nothing about how it failed to become a souls like

[sand coral]

Solid name.

[sick storm]

listen and learn

[bleak bolt]

It’s a Soulslike

[flat dune]

same way nightreign is a very good game but very bad roguelike

[frozen patrol]

It’s a failure because the game was immediately heavily criticised, ontop of the fact it isn’t even discussed at all today.

[native stream]

I have IBS atm it's not happening

[eager citrus]

💔

[trim juniper]

Monhun is a souls like trust me

[frozen patrol]

Very meh roguelike wouldn’t say bad

[twilit steeple]

True

[rapid atlas]

😹 😹

[flat dune]

you get the idea

[bleak bolt]

Ah yes.. because “not enough diversity” is a good critique 😭

[eager citrus]

just me and Sammy sillymaxxing in timezone A then

[glacial socket]

@rapid atlas
Is there any confirmation that Figma will make more metal gear figures

[frozen patrol]

Lost GOTY to Astro bot by the way

[bleak bolt]

So would Elden Ring btw

[sick storm]

yeah because astro bot is fun

[rapid atlas]

Yeah

[flat dune]

was competing with astro bot and a DLC

[frozen patrol]

No it was the blatantly sluggish combat system due to heavy artificial difficulty.

[native stream]

I love making stuff up

[glacial socket]

Let's gooooooo

[twilit steeple]

Yeah I heard it got criticized due to not enough women in game 😭

[sick storm]

mario galaxy nostalgia = good game

[rapid atlas]

😹

[bleak bolt]

Oh you’re larping the game..

[sand coral]

Gets heavily critisied
Wins GOTY.

[glacial socket]

I kinda feel like that with ds2 sometimes icl

[frozen patrol]

No, Elden rings DLC lost but it was because there was discourse around a dlc being nominated

[bleak bolt]

As someone who has beaten Wukong like 3 or 4 times, yeah no it ain’t sluggish 😭

[glacial socket]

[bleak bolt]

You may just suck at the game 😭

[frozen patrol]

Elden Ring but it was just the easy mode slop

[glacial socket]

Genuinely a DLC shouldn't have been part of goty

[bleak bolt]

So it still lost then..

[flat dune]

SOTE is by far the best dlc ever made

[native stream]

Sexism and sexist comments as well as being adamant that the game not be used for any "feminist propaganda", is the devs
It wasn't criticised due to a lack of women but that wouldn't be an invalid criticism either.

[eager citrus]

ds2 can sometimes feel sluggish if you're coming from ds3/er where areas are shoved to the side in favour of bosses

[flat dune]

better than most actual games

[bleak bolt]

Ehhhh

[glacial socket]

Why's ts so true

[frozen patrol]

Theres literal theory when it comes to designing difficulty for bosses in games and Wukong very clearly makes them more tedious to appeal to the “HARD GAME” audience

[sand coral]

Oh, you're not talking about Sekiro. I thought you meant that.

[twilit steeple]

Due to it being a DLC, goty always includes base games only no dlc or remastered games

[frozen patrol]

Double the content of the DS3 dlcs

[bleak bolt]

I’m massively biased towards other franchises so I have different DLC as my favourite

[flat dune]

i literally never enjoyed anything as much as SOTE

[glacial socket]

Hm ig but the combat can just feel sluggish in general
And kinda easy

[flat dune]

more enjoyable than base elden ring

[sand coral]

Word.

[frozen patrol]

Don’t remastered and remakes count?

[twilit steeple]

It contains female characters a lot btw in late game

[glacial socket]

Idk about that
In the base game you get to brutally molest Mohg

[frozen patrol]

Remakes have been nominated before and I swear TLOU2 remaster was nominated lol

[bleak bolt]

So you just suck at the game 😭

[native stream]

Ignore everything else I said sure lol

[inland coral]

@Acilnou56

[frozen patrol]

It’s like arguing with an idiot!

[twilit steeple]

No thelast of us 2 won the game not the remake I think

[frozen patrol]

You find Sekiro hard!

[bleak bolt]

that was proven to be false, it was mistranslated.

[twilit steeple]

My fault gng

[frozen patrol]

I know but I’m p sure the remaster got NOMINATED

[pastel cove]

does anyone here know about computers if so dm me

[twilit steeple]

I see

[bleak bolt]

Since when did I say “Sekiro is hard”?

[eager citrus]

I remember being in challenge running circles when wukong dropped and the flowcharts were like every move links into each other 💀

[twilit steeple]

Which year?

[frozen patrol]

You literally were talking like Sekiro’s difficulty mattered lmao

[native stream]

That's not even combat complexity that's just spaghetti

[bleak bolt]

?

[trim juniper]

I want some

[bleak bolt]

All I said was that Sekiro is harder than ER and that’s why people don’t suggest it as someone’s first FS game

[eager citrus]

which then idk feels like I'm fighting promised slopsort radahn where it's just reaction checks and not knowledge or skill

[sand coral]

I'll try to help. What do you need help with. I'm not a massive nerd though.

[frozen patrol]

Saying a Sekiro player can beat an Elden ring player in Elden ring PvP, promotes the idea one game requires more skill therefore difficulty

[frank granite]

[bleak bolt]

That’s not me saying “Sekiro is hard”??? What is this reaching 😭

[sand coral]

Both are DIFFERENT types of games. 😭

[pastel cove]

is "msi Katana 15 HX 15.6” 165Hz QHD+ Gaming Laptop: Intel Core i9-14900HX, NVIDIA Geforce RTX 5070, 32GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, RGB Keyboard, Win 11 Home: Black B14WGK-016US" a good laptop to buy im looking for a gaming laptop

[frozen patrol]

Sekiro is NOT harder than elden ring

[eager citrus]

Sekiro players would not beat a d tier pvp player

[bleak bolt]

And it’s literally been said by ER fans themselves that ER is easier than Sekiro?? 😭😭

[twilit steeple]

Subjective opinion bruh

[frozen patrol]

Elden ring is bum easy and so is Sekiro, but Sekiro is quite literally linear mechanics with linear progression

[flat dune]

for a first playthrough it 100% is

[bleak bolt]

Yes it is 😭

[sand coral]

Yes. 101% with a margin of error of 1%.

[eager citrus]

game where exclusively thoughtless aggression is rewarded vs pvp where hyper aggression without thought gets you mega punished

[flat dune]

the moment you get the flow of sekiro's combat your basically god

[native stream]

Like me

[frozen patrol]

For a first playthrough souls games are deemed WAY harder then they actually are

[flat dune]

exactly

[rapid atlas]

Man im gonna have some ice cream an enjoy 🍿

[sand coral]

Until Sword Saint shows up.

[frozen patrol]

But Sekiro isn’t a souls game!

[sick storm]

he just like me fr

[eager citrus]

if you've watched 1 (one) steelovsky video you'd beat any sekiro player deadass

[twilit steeple]

No no no no wait why???

[flat dune]

elden ring offers the most freedom out of them all so it might be a good place to start

[frozen patrol]

Son…

[native stream]

Idet I'd need to

[trim juniper]

-# mh is harder than all of them because it requires players to actually read and prepare your gear before the hunt

[rapid atlas]

😹

[flat dune]

i still have to beat him 😔

[bleak bolt]

Which game is harder:
need to directly fight the boss at a planned stat set that you can barely charge
Or
Can go out of your way to watch a “Early build, one shot every boss!” Video and get the weapons, armour and levels needed and then proceed to go one shot every boss? 😭

[frozen patrol]

God we need a goddamn copy pasta for these idiots

[twilit steeple]

😭 😭

[native stream]

How are you real

[frozen patrol]

again with this 😭

[flat dune]

just dont watch youtube and enjoy the game on your pace

[bleak bolt]

Well which one is harder?

[sick storm]

👎

[eager citrus]

I could watch a video on jumping mortal draw and firecrackers and essentially do the same thing

[flat dune]

maybe if you gett lost then watch youtube

[sick storm]

run straight at omega and start beating him up

[karmic monolith]

i have done both pcr and inner isshin and i can with prove say the sekiro learning curve is much more steep but rapid and short lived meanwhile elden ring is a low steep curve but a lengthy one to climb

[bleak bolt]

ER players are not doing this nowadays

[pastel cove]

alr im get that one

[sick storm]

at metalgear

[trim juniper]

You have not heard of Alatreon 😈

[frozen patrol]

I love how in your example you have to put the Sekiro at a disadvantage to make your point go through.

[rapid atlas]

Hardest one out there

[sand coral]

Soulslike:

• Should be difficult
• Have a currency lost upon death
• Leveling system
• Focused on bosses
• Stamina/posture
• Immersive lore and story telling from the environment.

Sekiro IS a soulslike.

[eager citrus]

my rl1 no roll run was much harder than my sekiro base vit charmless db no pros/buffs run 😭

[glacial socket]

Honestly I think an open world game where you can mistakenly stumble on loot that's op is easier than linear game

[frozen patrol]

NO😭

[bleak bolt]

Difference is you need to abuse something the devs didn’t intend to be in the game to do that, the devs intended for you to be able to get OP early in Elden Ring 😭✌️

[sick storm]

yeah it would be a really easy game if you could just watch a video like that

[frozen patrol]

I’m getting on pc man

[sand coral]

Dawg, lock in.

[sick storm]

that's the vampire from bg3, u can't scare me

[flat dune]

in my defense last time i fought him was 5 years ago

[eager citrus]

son 😭😭😭

[glacial socket]

Does it have feet?

[frank granite]

optional btw

[flat dune]

ive evolved alot since then

[karmic monolith]

sekiro is a soulsborne not a soulslike

[eager citrus]

using mortal draw in the air and using firecrackers are intended

[worthy basin]

What's the diffrence

[sand coral]

You saying "NO" doesn't make it wrong.

[frank granite]

now this is important

[glacial socket]

Thank you

[native stream]

I'm gonna go away from this channel now its just getting dumber as time progresses

[bleak bolt]

What most players do btw

[flat dune]

lets not forget about twinks and incest

[sand coral]

I hear excuses.

[rapid atlas]

Have some ice cream and enjoy eden 🍿

[sand coral]

Yes.

[bleak bolt]

Happy early birthday

[karmic monolith]

soulsborne speicifically means soulslike games but from from soft, so like hollow knight is a souls like but not a soulsborne

[flat dune]

ill go back and fight him very soon

[rapid atlas]

😹 thanks

[frank granite]

u mean ‘not everyone that plays er but some that do’ ? yea so optional😭

[sand coral]

Soulsborne games ARE soulslike. Any soulslike game made from Fromsoft is called soulsborne.

[eager citrus]

gduo > all of sekiro in difficulty

[twilit steeple]

Hollow knight is a metroidvania bruh

[karmic monolith]

it is considered soulslike too pick up the genre book dawg

[frank granite]

🫩

[eager citrus]

and that's the 1:30 fight not even 108

[karmic monolith]

what i meant*

[glacial socket]

It's a souls like done

[sand coral]

Dude, soulsborne are literally soulslike.

[twilit steeple]

Ahhhh okk

[sand coral]

Yes!!

[flat dune]

theyre called soulslike because theyre similar to soulsborne 😭

[karmic monolith]

yeah yeah thats what i meant just wrote not soulslike as a mistake

[trim juniper]

Alatreon is funny though
People hated and review bombed world because of his mechanics
Basically this
He has 2 dps checks
1 for elemental damage (rip raw weapons)
2 for breaking his horns
Breaking his horns will prevent him from switching elements
He has different weakness and resistance for each element he switches to (for example, ice for fire mode, fire for ice mode)
The 2nd one will immediately oneshot you if you fail to meet it, when he switches to another element regardless if you broke his horns or not

[frozen patrol]

This is literally the list google ai gives you man be so for real

No,
Typically, not related
Yes, sekiro doesnt have this
Not a determinable factor on what determines it as a genre, as that is just a core element of combat in games in general. its like saying "the player must beable to dodge"
Also not a determinable factor, although yes this in every game, and you literally went bias towards sekiro by putting stamina because they are not comparable between souls and sekiro.
No not necessarily but if it doesnt have anyway, thats just called DS3

[bleak bolt]

Also, Sekiro lore and story is more connected within the game and better explained than ER lore and story

[sand coral]

They are soulslike but since they are made by Fromsoft so they are called soulborne.

[glacial socket]

I think what makes a game a souls like too is having a bit of gameplay variety
Bloodborne doesn't have much compared to other souls games but it has enough
So I think it's clear you don't need to have 100 weapons types to be a soulslike

Just some variety
Just a bit

[flat dune]

does that mean nier is a soulslike?

[glacial socket]

Yes
My uncle worked on it

[flat dune]

lots of variety
and bossess
and a twink most of all

[sick storm]

peak!

[flat dune]

tell him when we getting the nier automata sequel