WashTastic - 1W node based on E22-900M30S and promicro NRF52 | Meshtastic | Page 5

olive basin Jul 11, 2025, 5:39 AM

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2mm pitch

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hmm

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maybe smaller

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https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Wire-To-Board-Connector_Megastar-ZX-ZH1-5-4PLT_C19272416.html

LCSC Electronics

ZX-ZH1.5-4PLT | Megastar | Price | In Stock | LCSC Electronics

ZX-ZH1.5-4PLT by Megastar - In-stock components at LCSC. Price from $0.0352. Free access ZX-ZH1.5-4PLT datasheet, Package, pinout diagrams, and BOM tools.

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1.5mm pitch

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nvm

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thats surface mounted

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https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Wire-To-Board-Connector_JST-B4B-ZR-3-4-LF-SN_C163034.html

LCSC Electronics

B4B-ZR-3.4(LF)(SN) | JST | Price | In Stock | LCSC Electronics

B4B-ZR-3.4(LF)(SN) by JST - In-stock components at LCSC. Price from $0.0218. Free access B4B-ZR-3.4(LF)(SN) datasheet, Package, pinout diagrams, and BOM tools.

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/XZLPjZ.png

gilded cedar Jul 13, 2025, 12:33 AM

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@olive basin Once you start getting your boards sold, you should cast one in acrylic.. LOL

olive basin Jul 13, 2025, 2:05 AM

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gilded cedar <@342662708795146242> Once you start getting your boards sold, you should cast o...

I mean I'm already selling in small quantities

gilded cedar Jul 13, 2025, 2:10 AM

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olive basin I mean I'm already selling in small quantities

Are you making enough to cast one ? ;P

olive basin Jul 13, 2025, 2:31 AM

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Nope def not and not enough to do thay lol

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And why would i do that even?

gilded cedar Jul 13, 2025, 2:36 AM

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I was watching How It's Made, and they were making Acrylic awards.. Thought it would be cool to do that to one of the nodes..

olive basin Jul 13, 2025, 3:13 AM

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i mean sure i can put in a picture frame or something 😅

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funny enough i have 3 different iterations of this 😅 so i could save em lol

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soon fourth lol

deep tiger Jul 14, 2025, 2:27 AM

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…so anyone selling these stateside?

gilded cedar Jul 14, 2025, 2:34 AM

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deep tiger …so anyone selling these stateside?

I've been wanting to place an order for some..

olive basin Jul 14, 2025, 2:37 AM

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deep tiger …so anyone selling these stateside?

Not yet, i might be selling these st somepoint on elecrows store

deep tiger Jul 14, 2025, 2:38 AM

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If anyone decides to break the seal I’m down for 1 or 2

olive basin Jul 14, 2025, 4:36 AM

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https://www.elecrow.com/store/valzzu

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soon

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@finite palm hows the v0.4 working?

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i'm here debating if i should go with 0.3.5 or 0.4.
0.3.5 is cheaper ish but it requires elecrow to do more work

finite palm Jul 14, 2025, 1:22 PM

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olive basin <@268346693412585475> hows the v0.4 working?

Heya @olive basin ! 👋 I've got one MIA and one working perfectly!
The one that's been deployed where it's hard to get to disappeared off the mesh a few days ago with 50% battery remaining... unforutnely I haven't had a chance to get to it yet, but will debug and report back when I do!
The one in my yard is working perfectly - no issues at all! It's running stably and is keeping its battery topped up!

gilded cedar Jul 14, 2025, 1:36 PM

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olive basin i'm here debating if i should go with 0.3.5 or 0.4. 0.3.5 is cheaper ish but it ...

Are they flashing everything also ?

olive basin Jul 14, 2025, 1:41 PM

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gilded cedar Are they flashing everything also ?

Apparently they can flash everything

gilded cedar Jul 14, 2025, 1:41 PM

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olive basin Apparently they can flash everything

Is that extra, or included in price ?

olive basin Jul 14, 2025, 1:42 PM

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finite palm Heya <@342662708795146242> ! 👋 I've got one MIA and one working perfectly! Th...

Interesting, i have one node has full charge and one doesn't seem to charge. Could be panel in a bad place

olive basin Jul 14, 2025, 1:43 PM

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gilded cedar Is that extra, or included in price ?

Probably extra, haven't asked

forest niche Jul 14, 2025, 3:00 PM

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dumb question: how thick is an assembled washtastic?

olive basin Jul 14, 2025, 3:02 PM

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ummm.....

forest niche Jul 14, 2025, 3:21 PM

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ok I dont feel so bad if you dont know lol

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just trying to determine minimum clearances for a case.

olive basin Jul 14, 2025, 3:23 PM

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well the board is 1.6mm plus components
https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/BdyvRZ.png

forest niche Jul 14, 2025, 3:24 PM

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I'll just say 10mm and have good clearance 🤣

gilded cedar Jul 14, 2025, 7:13 PM

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forest niche dumb question: how thick is an assembled washtastic?

Thickness depends on what components you install also.. Like I have a wash board w/ pin headers so I can remove the promicro.. That adds a good 1/2" to the hieght I think..

forest niche Jul 14, 2025, 7:15 PM

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gilded cedar Thickness depends on what components you install also.. Like I have a wash board...

Good point, thanks!

heady mulch Jul 14, 2025, 9:07 PM

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gilded cedar Thickness depends on what components you install also.. Like I have a wash board...

You can get reduced height ones... 3mm sockets, 2.5mm pins

gilded cedar Jul 14, 2025, 9:08 PM

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_ddb58238-65c7-4a52-bda8-553462b1abb4.jpg

heady mulch Jul 14, 2025, 9:12 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/stilts-tall-ethan-gif-13157880

Tenor

olive basin Jul 15, 2025, 3:21 AM

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okay, i got a question, if i swap the b,e280 to aht20 are ppl gonna miss pressure reading?

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aparently it doesent need standard assemlby so u save $25

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and its cheaper than bme280 anyway

gilded cedar Jul 15, 2025, 3:54 AM

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I pref pressure, but that's me.. What bout a shtc3 ?

olive basin Jul 15, 2025, 3:55 AM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/lgvgYs.png

gilded cedar Jul 15, 2025, 3:55 AM

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Wait... That doesn't do prwssure..

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BME280, 680, and 688 seem to be the only ones that do pressure..

olive basin Jul 15, 2025, 4:01 AM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/AUfT18.png
https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/AX85gC.png
plus $25 for standard on bme280

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plus $3 for extended component fee

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loading

gilded cedar Jul 15, 2025, 4:05 AM

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Geezz...

olive basin Jul 15, 2025, 4:10 AM

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yeee

olive basin Jul 15, 2025, 3:17 PM

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One person managed to break the switch 😅

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They have no idea how they did it

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It was just missed 😅

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Yes i did tell him the battery is wrong way 🙃

olive basin Jul 16, 2025, 3:22 AM

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$560.58 for 20 on elecrow with promicro soldered and flashed

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that would be 28€ per node

viral pier Jul 16, 2025, 3:57 AM

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olive basin One person managed to break the switch 😅

Yeah, I broke one trying to shove it into a case. 😕 It's quite fragile.

olive basin Jul 16, 2025, 3:57 AM

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i prob should replace it with maybe ine that is pointing up 😅

finite palm Jul 16, 2025, 3:24 PM

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olive basin Interesting, i have one node has full charge and one doesn't seem to charge. Cou...

Hmmm I just inspected the one in my yard today... interestingly the solar charge LED doesn't appear to be coming on anymore... but charge does still seem to be holding up 🤷

olive basin Jul 16, 2025, 3:25 PM

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dem

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if it works it works 😅

finite palm Jul 16, 2025, 3:37 PM

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Haha yep, if anything it's optimising power usage by not running the LED...? 😅

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"Its a feature"

olive basin Jul 16, 2025, 3:44 PM

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i might redesing the layout to match v0.3.5 😅

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aka redoing the nrf part lol

dry summit Jul 17, 2025, 5:30 PM

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you can use OPL part numbers, that would be the equivalent of LCSC numbers

olive basin Jul 19, 2025, 7:10 AM

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i now have 3 that wont find the lora module 💀

olive basin Jul 19, 2025, 12:34 PM

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I know that module worked before i desoldered

olive basin Jul 19, 2025, 12:52 PM

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okay its not the lora module 🤔

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dont tell me its the promcro

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 7:07 AM

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I'm happy to announce that u can now buy washtastics from Elecrow once production is done
https://www.elecrow.com/washtastic-nrf52-powered-and-solar-ready.html

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 10:44 AM

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@heady mulch dis the ceramic filter

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thanks to @severe halo

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:47 AM

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olive basin dont tell me its the promcro

is always the promicro

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 10:47 AM

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i hate desoldering them. never suceeded

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i tried and i got it almost but i gave up

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:48 AM

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they have quite fame on failing..

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especially the red boards

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do you have wick ?

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 10:48 AM

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mhm

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u used a sucker and wick

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:49 AM

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wick and flux should work, with flux you get more tension on the sn/pb solder paste, and the wick absorbs it

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:49 AM

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olive basin u used a sucker and wick

nope.. I'm a hardcore player

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 10:50 AM

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U was suppoed to be i lol

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:50 AM

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1500w hot air gun paint stripper

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 10:51 AM

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mmmm

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:52 AM

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is a bosch tool, usually 40€

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 10:52 AM

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my dad has a hotair gun

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:53 AM

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but have to be careful, is a lot of heat

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 10:53 AM

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tru 😅

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fuck ton

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:53 AM

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the second picture shows how the plastic in the pins melted

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is a blob

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 10:53 AM

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tho, i dont have spare promicros 😅

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 10:54 AM

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also I lost Q2 in this board (maybe the air draged it..) but I wasnt adding gps anyways

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 11:16 AM

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also the pins missaligned so I had to manually align them. In anycase the board was already lost with a failed promicro so was worth trying

severe halo Jul 22, 2025, 11:58 AM

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Oh I just remember

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Unsolder needles

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This are tiny tubes of different sizes
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ev0vPwm

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You heat the pin and insert the needle in the space petween the pin and the hole, physically separating both

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Move it until it cools down. Pin is unsoldered. Profit

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I forgot I had of these at home

heady mulch Jul 22, 2025, 12:31 PM

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severe halo This are tiny tubes of different sizes https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ev0vPwm

Those look easier than using a fine-point soldering iron and stabbing it through the PCB until the edge unzips like a cheap handbag.

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 3:34 PM

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Dem, somebody downvoted

rustic brook Jul 22, 2025, 5:14 PM

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Are any of the 0.4's going to make it up there? I'm interested in experimenting with those

olive basin Jul 22, 2025, 5:26 PM

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On elecrow? Nope

olive basin Jul 23, 2025, 4:47 AM

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atleast not anytime soon

olive basin Jul 23, 2025, 12:08 PM

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Rly gotta make a video showcasing WashTastic 😅

severe halo Jul 23, 2025, 1:42 PM

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Actually I found you project by chance

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I was looking into poweful meshtastic. At first I found the ndoo web that pairs a xiao and a E22, and used xiao_ble variant. nice documentation but didnt want to get into all the pain of installing kicad, jlcpcb plugins and so just for a pair of pcbs, so I mounted my xiao_ble manually wiring it following the README in the xiao_ble variant folder.

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then I found your board

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I was already mounting CN3791 solar board on my tube nodes and I used a step-up buck to feed my E22 in the xiao_ble, so to me you board was perfect, had everything I needed.

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basically, googling e22-900m30s meshtastic, drops a lot of pictures

olive basin Jul 23, 2025, 2:02 PM

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Hahah

olive basin Jul 23, 2025, 2:06 PM

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severe halo Actually I found you project by chance

Many do

olive basin Jul 23, 2025, 2:53 PM

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but ad video would be cool

severe halo Jul 23, 2025, 3:11 PM

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This board should have its own variant to define the use of the e22 and properly set power on the firmware.

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 4:17 AM

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maybe yes but idk

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would it be in the flasher?

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tho if it had maybe it could have its own portnum

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🤷‍♀️

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 6:29 AM

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Your own hardware id sound cool

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 6:49 AM

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#1295160974751432705 has 😅

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but it might have private HW tag

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that would be cool too 😅

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since theres not alot of those

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:05 AM

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I think that's what I was refering to

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there is space for 255

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:09 AM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/eOUnpD.png

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:10 AM

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that's the one used by devices that does't have a hardware definition

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for example, the xiao_ble

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:10 AM

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mhm

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theres not alot of those in the wild

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:11 AM

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I have one xD

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:11 AM

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i have 2 iirc

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/Wvtiqb.png

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i like how i got this xd

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:11 AM

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https://mapa.meshtastic.es/?node_id=297259690

Mapa de Meshtastic

Un mapa interactivo de todos los nodos de Meshtastic.

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:12 AM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/iIKNWi.png

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3 that has seen by the map

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:12 AM

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is the meshtab more popular than the washtastic ?

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:13 AM

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no 😅

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its not even done lol

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:13 AM

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then washtastic should have its own variant and its own hw id

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:13 AM

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that was made before any changes was made

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:14 AM

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well... if no one has ever built a mesh-tab, you could ask to repurpose the id 86 for the washtastic

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nothing gets broken

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:14 AM

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there are few meshtabs

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not in daily use afaik, i will finish it eventually

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:16 AM

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olive basin https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/eOUnpD.png

right now the washtastic may not be very popular, If you define your own variant you can referer to it with the 255

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and eventually if it gets more popular have a hw id for washtastic

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I think that private_hw is not included in builds

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you can not get precompiled build for xiao_ble for example... I had to compile it myself

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:23 AM

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board_level = extra makes it so its not built

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:28 AM

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oh I see

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I guess that depends also on the popularity

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still you need a variant 😛

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 8:30 AM

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She has a variant - she's been savvy and used one that is already built 😉

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:30 AM

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having to set the power in the firmware to 20 instead to 27 is an odd job

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 8:30 AM

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Yes, but it's only one that has recently become automate-able

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:31 AM

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yeah I know, times changes, adapt, overcome, survive

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severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:35 AM

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heady mulch She has a variant - she's been savvy and used one that is already built 😉

which one? I only see the mesh-tab

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 8:47 AM

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severe halo which one? I only see the mesh-tab

The promicro

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Washtastic is a promicro board

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variant != hwid

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:52 AM

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can the promicro variant be configured to use E22 ?

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oh sorry, you mean use the id promicro in a washtastic variant ?

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I still dont get the firmware guts, sorry

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 8:55 AM

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The variant is just the configuration of the pins

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:56 AM

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yeah and in that term theres no difference between the promicro_diy that's been using in faketec

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 8:56 AM

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The architecture, the pinout, and some hw specifics like power switches and stuff, and then the rest is the base firmware, based on if it has screens or buttons or whatever

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 8:56 AM

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severe halo yeah and in that term theres no difference between the promicro_diy that's been ...

exactly

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they share the processor and pinout, so why give them a different ID?

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:57 AM

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but sharing same pins with an ht-ra62 doesn't mean that the radio module is actually an ht-ra62

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 8:57 AM

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They both have an SX1262 radio

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with TCXO

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(and even if one didn't - the code allows for that)

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:58 AM

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but their sx1262 are configured differently depending on the PA

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 8:58 AM

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the major difference is the PA on the E22-30db

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 8:58 AM

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https://github.com/valzzu/firmware/actions/runs/16492376562 hehe

GitHub

Update main_matrix.yml · valzzu/firmware@0df1585

Meshtastic device firmware. Contribute to valzzu/firmware development by creating an account on GitHub.

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 8:59 AM

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if meshtastic is trying to keep radio inside legal term, burning a faketec firmware in a wastsatic will result in someone fixing tx power at 27 in firmware, which will result in 22 in sx1262, shich will result in 30 (1w) overcomming the limit

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 9:00 AM

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Faketec uses promicro firmware.

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User takes responsibility for reading the instructions.

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The police are not going to knock down your door over 500mW extra

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 9:00 AM

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then stop limiting power based on the legal area ¿?

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 9:00 AM

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they will knock politely

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 9:00 AM

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that's a contradiction itself

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 9:01 AM

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that the police will knock politely?

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 9:01 AM

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'limiting tx power based on territory' and 'user takes responsibility'

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 9:02 AM

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========================= [SUCCESS] Took 99.17 seconds =========================
Environment    Status    Duration
-------------  --------  ------------
WashTastic     SUCCESS   00:01:39.169
========================= 1 succeeded in 00:01:39.169 =========================```

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 9:02 AM

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indeed

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/B9ujsk.png

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 9:03 AM

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severe halo 'limiting tx power based on territory' and 'user takes responsibility'

Up until recently, it wasn't possible to even tell the firmware that your radio had a PA - you could only limit the maximum power to something lower.

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The user had to take steps to limit the power output themselves.

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 9:04 AM

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olive basin https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/B9ujsk.png

Have the convo, and get it submitted (with power limit included 😉 )

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 9:04 AM

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i did message ben

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i dont own a power meter so cant test 😅

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 9:06 AM

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speaking of that, I'm tempting on buying a tinysa

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😅

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 9:10 AM

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@true garden are u able to test Washtastics own firmware? so that the lora tx power works correctly?

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📎 firmware-nrf52840-WashTastic-2.7.4.0df1585.zip.zip

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 9:13 AM

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sorry for the confusion, indeed hw id is not the same as a variant

true garden Jul 24, 2025, 9:13 AM

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olive basin <@232718149202608128> are u able to test Washtastics own firmware? so that the l...

I can try if I get some time just got back from overseas and daughter is sick currently

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 9:13 AM

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no hurry

heady mulch Jul 24, 2025, 9:14 AM

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severe halo sorry for the confusion, indeed hw id is not the same as a variant

It's fine - I've been doing this for 2.5 years, and I only realised this like a year ago

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 9:23 AM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/KBZ4T2.png

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mm

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 9:46 AM

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@swift wind made a pr
https://github.com/mrekin/MeshtasticCustomBoards/pull/7

GitHub

WashTastic variant with E22 flag to set max power by valzzu · Pull...

basically the same as promicro but just has
-D PRIVATE_HW
-D EBYTE_E22_900M30S
in build flags

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 10:45 AM

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nice

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how come you didn't do this before ? xD

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 10:56 AM

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tbh, did not know i could do it

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 11:20 AM

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plus i just remembered vardas had the flasher and could add it there

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hopefully the variant comes into the official repo

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 12:07 PM

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@severe halo https://mrekin.duckdns.org/flasher/

Custom Meshtastic builds

Easily allow users to install the Meshtastic firmware on the web.

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Daily build

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2.7.4

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 12:58 PM

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saw it

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does mrekin push the variant to main firmware ?

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 1:00 PM

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nope, they just have their own "flasher" where u can download certain firmwares

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 1:00 PM

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oh, so you have yet to push it to main ?

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 1:01 PM

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talking with devs about it

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 1:01 PM

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I'm grounded on testing until I get those nice boards with gps and filter

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I've been spending too much this month xD

olive basin Jul 24, 2025, 6:49 PM

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https://github.com/meshtastic/firmware/pull/7450 🙃

GitHub

WashTastic variant by valzzu · Pull Request #7450 · meshtastic/fi...

Made a variant for washtasic.
uses the build flag for 30dBm E22 also uses private hadware instead of promicro

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 7:34 PM

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olive basin https://github.com/meshtastic/firmware/pull/7450 🙃

ouh yeah

severe halo Jul 24, 2025, 7:40 PM

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olive basin https://github.com/meshtastic/firmware/pull/7450 🙃

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almost

gilded cedar Jul 24, 2025, 11:12 PM

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20 0.4s for 113.71 ?

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on pcbway

heady mulch Jul 25, 2025, 12:43 AM

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gilded cedar on pcbway

Built?

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Or bare PCBs?

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 1:10 AM

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heady mulch Built?

PCBA and everything.

heady mulch Jul 25, 2025, 1:11 AM

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@olive basin

heady mulch Jul 25, 2025, 1:12 AM

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gilded cedar PCBA and everything.

share a screengrab of the breakdown

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The parts alone cost about that much

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Unless they've skipped the NRF or the E22 or somethign

olive basin Jul 25, 2025, 1:32 AM

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Hmmmm

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That's low

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 1:55 AM

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No, it was both sides assembled..

heady mulch Jul 25, 2025, 1:56 AM

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Both... sides?

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You sure you're not talking about the flushable?

heady mulch Jul 25, 2025, 1:57 AM

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gilded cedar 20 0.4s for 113.71 ?

This is $5.68 per board. The processor and radio combined cost more than this.

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 1:57 AM

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I know!

heady mulch Jul 25, 2025, 1:57 AM

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Screenshot via DM?

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 1:58 AM

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I downloaded 0.4 Gerber and uploaded them..

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I'm not home right now..

heady mulch Jul 25, 2025, 1:58 AM

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and bom and P&P?

olive basin Jul 25, 2025, 2:19 AM

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That price is too low to be true

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More like just the pcb price

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 2:49 AM

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Yes, bom and PnP..

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Tho I just got a msg saying the audit failed, asking if the PCB is 2 or 4 layer..

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You would think PCBWay would detect that from the gerber files uploaded...

olive basin Jul 25, 2025, 3:05 AM

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oh wait

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did they give u a quote yet? or was that automatic price it gave u?

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 3:09 AM

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It was what was on the site when I submitted order.. Trying to get the order approved..

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It's asking if it's a 2 or 4 layer PCB..

olive basin Jul 25, 2025, 3:09 AM

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ah yes, it will get more expensive once they review it

olive basin Jul 25, 2025, 3:09 AM

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gilded cedar It's asking if it's a 2 or 4 layer PCB..

0.4 is 4 layers

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 3:09 AM

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We will see..

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 3:31 AM

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@olive basin When I select 4 layers, I get this..

olive basin Jul 25, 2025, 3:32 AM

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idk 😅 leave it empty as they tell if u dont know 🤣

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u could open the zip file and look

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 3:35 AM

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Ok, w/ 4 layer it's closer to 160 USD..

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Waiting for Lyra to get back to me.. She's my sales rep..

olive basin Jul 25, 2025, 3:36 AM

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it will get more expensive cuz the components

gilded cedar Jul 25, 2025, 3:36 AM

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Right now it's roughly $8/unit..

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Last time she got back to me in like 15 min..

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It's around noon there, I think..

severe halo Jul 25, 2025, 11:28 PM

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https://github.com/meshtastic/firmware/blob/master/variants/nrf52840/diy/WashTastic/Platformio.ini 🥳🎉🎊

GitHub

firmware/variants/nrf52840/diy/WashTastic/Platformio.ini at master ...

The official firmware for Meshtastic, an open-source, off-grid mesh communication system. - meshtastic/firmware

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 1:41 AM

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Woohoo

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 4:24 AM

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tho it will not be built

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so u gotta do it manually

silver crest Jul 26, 2025, 5:15 AM

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I’ve been away for a bit what’s been happening! I got one of the V1 nodes but there seems to be a lot more new things

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 5:20 AM

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yes

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:06 AM

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olive basin tho it will not be built

yeah I saw it. Who knows... a matter of popularity

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anyways I'm good, can build it myself. And also theres mrenkin

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:07 AM

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yee

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might not get built ever 🤷‍♀️

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:09 AM

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just sell more!

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the video is a good start

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and doc

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who's offering 1w out of the box commercially?

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:11 AM

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station G2 is more than 1W but meshtastic limtis it to 1W iirc

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but mines first with nrf52

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:12 AM

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new boards finished production and shipped this morning yay

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:12 AM

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oh nice

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:13 AM

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severe halo the video is a good start

tho i'm bad at making anything good 😅

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:15 AM

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if you can handle cad design you can handle video editing with something like shotcut

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and nowadays internet is full of AIs to make animations and so

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:15 AM

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i can edit yes but only basic stuff 😅

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also can only do simple cad stuff

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:16 AM

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bare v4 pcb is asking $7 for 5qty O.o

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:16 AM

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hm

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are u ready to solder nrf52 chip?

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:17 AM

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nope nope nope

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I'm looking at pcba right now

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:18 AM

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u can get 10 v0.3.5 for the price of 5 v0.4

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:21 AM

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theres the problem...

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$100 only on feeders loading time

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:23 AM

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theres not much i can do about those fees

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:24 AM

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yeah I know, but the price was so much offset that I wanted to see where was the difference. I though (influenced by you ¬¬) that it was because the PCB is 4 layers... but clearly the problem is that those components aren that usual and have to be manually configured in the assembly machines

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:25 AM

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extended components 😅

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each unique one adds $3

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 8:26 AM

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they cost you the same for 5 than for 100 pcbs

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the trick is to make a kickstarter and order 100 XD

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 8:27 AM

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severe halo they cost you the same for 5 than for 100 pcbs

yea i know

swift wind Jul 26, 2025, 9:08 AM

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@olive basin Hi
Your commit in master with new variant little bit incorrect )
need to rename Platformio.ini -> platformio.ini
now platformio can't found it variants/*/diy/*/platformio.ini
I'll remove your variant from my repo, but keep fw building

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 9:08 AM

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fuck

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😅

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 9:12 AM

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lawl

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 9:18 AM

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idk why nobody saw that mistake before u 🤣

swift wind Jul 26, 2025, 10:02 AM

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olive basin idk why nobody saw that mistake before u 🤣

May be I first who tried to build variant?)

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 10:03 AM

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i mean i did build it on windows 😅

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aparently its linux thing 😅

swift wind Jul 26, 2025, 10:08 AM

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On windows I usually get errors related with long paths with custom variants ) and don't have such problem on linux

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 10:08 AM

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ye

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u cant build tft on windows for example

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 10:24 AM

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@swift wind fix is merged now

severe halo Jul 26, 2025, 10:33 AM

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olive basin i mean i did build it on windows 😅

That explains.. windows is not case sentitive

heady mulch Jul 26, 2025, 10:42 AM

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Swings and roundabouts.

olive basin Jul 26, 2025, 10:42 AM

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windows is good in some things and not in some others 🤣

silver crest Jul 27, 2025, 12:40 AM

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anyone running these with meshcore I don’t feel like I’m fully hitting 1w on meshcore I might need to adjust some settings

olive basin Jul 27, 2025, 3:19 AM

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afaik no

heady mulch Jul 27, 2025, 3:59 AM

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silver crest anyone running these with meshcore I don’t feel like I’m fully hitting 1w on mes...

boo

meager spruce Jul 27, 2025, 4:40 PM

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silver crest anyone running these with meshcore I don’t feel like I’m fully hitting 1w on mes...

Wrong discord...

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https://tenor.com/view/ill-give-you50cents-to-stand-outside-and-never-come-back-david-david-rose-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20759595

Tenor

olive basin Jul 27, 2025, 4:42 PM

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Agreed

silver crest Jul 27, 2025, 10:10 PM

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Danng you guys be hating on meshcore 😂

meager spruce Jul 27, 2025, 10:46 PM

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silver crest Danng you guys be hating on meshcore 😂

No, I was just taught there's a time and a place for everything... for that topic: it's not here and it's not now.

rose python Jul 28, 2025, 2:33 AM

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silver crest Danng you guys be hating on meshcore 😂

https://tenor.com/view/dory-squishy-fish-finding-nemo-gif-7811813171107838847

Tenor

viral pier Jul 30, 2025, 3:22 AM

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silver crest anyone running these with meshcore I don’t feel like I’m fully hitting 1w on mes...

I have a couple Washtastic running on MeshCore, unsure about power levels.

silver crest Jul 30, 2025, 3:37 AM

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viral pier I have a couple Washtastic running on MeshCore, unsure about power levels.

Cool thanks!

viral pier Jul 31, 2025, 1:59 AM

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olive basin windows is good in some things and not in some others 🤣

I dumped Windoze in favor of Linux last December. Haven't had a reason to go back since then. 🙂

silver crest Jul 31, 2025, 3:26 AM

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Is there a place people are sharing pics of nodes they have build with these? @olive basin

olive basin Jul 31, 2025, 3:37 AM

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silver crest Is there a place people are sharing pics of nodes they have build with these? <@...

#1346425369246302258

silver crest Jul 31, 2025, 4:23 AM

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Thanks

olive basin Jul 31, 2025, 4:45 AM

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Np

left mirage Aug 1, 2025, 1:04 PM

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Hello.
I have no clue why I have V in both JST but board is not turning ON

olive basin Aug 1, 2025, 1:06 PM

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Flip that switch :)

left mirage Aug 1, 2025, 1:14 PM

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olive basin Flip that switch :)

DTP?

olive basin Aug 1, 2025, 1:14 PM

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left mirage Aug 1, 2025, 1:15 PM

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Nothing.

olive basin Aug 1, 2025, 1:16 PM

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The promicro should have red blinking light

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Is the battery charged?

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Also why don't u have the connetor on it?

left mirage Aug 1, 2025, 1:19 PM

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Yes, just removed for better testing now. batt is charged

olive basin Aug 1, 2025, 1:20 PM

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U were one of them who ordered from etsy?

left mirage Aug 1, 2025, 1:20 PM

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olive basin U were one of them who ordered from etsy?

Yes

olive basin Aug 1, 2025, 1:20 PM

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Maan im pretty sure that worked before i sent it 😅

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Check on those pins

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Should have the same voltage as battery

left mirage Aug 1, 2025, 1:31 PM

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Not sure, 0v. Looks dead 😩

olive basin Aug 1, 2025, 1:35 PM

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Fuuuuu...... Okay, so its not getting any power

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Then on those

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If there is on one of those then u can bridge the 2 in the circle

severe halo Aug 1, 2025, 2:46 PM

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at this point I would test right starting from the JST connector

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and also try connecting the battery with reverse polarity and check if the warning led lights up

olive basin Aug 1, 2025, 3:28 PM

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tru xd

left mirage Aug 1, 2025, 4:13 PM

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Hmm Haha that’s over my head 😅

heady mulch Aug 1, 2025, 4:19 PM

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Does it charge the cell if you plug it in to the promicro?

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Just wondering if the ship mode has activated.

opaque flame Aug 2, 2025, 12:40 AM

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Try removing the battery and plugging in the Pro Micro via it's USB-C

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Plugging in a LiPo, albeit protected, with exposed female header sockets is very sketchy

opaque flame Aug 2, 2025, 12:42 AM

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left mirage Not sure, 0v. Looks dead 😩

Iris meant the voltage between one of those pins and GND

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@olive basin do you have battery protection on the PCB too? Does it switch VBAT or GND?

heady mulch Aug 2, 2025, 1:14 AM

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opaque flame <@342662708795146242> do you have battery protection on the PCB too? Does it swi...

U3 is the xb80xxxxxxx switched-gnd chip

opaque flame Aug 2, 2025, 1:17 AM

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@left mirage Unplug USB-C if you put it in. Connect the LiPo. Check the voltage between the top pin circled in green (the one above the B+ text) #1315666061416464465 message and the pin opposite that (the one above the B- text). You should get close to the battery voltage

left mirage Aug 2, 2025, 12:38 PM

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opaque flame <@1399485060230549594> Unplug USB-C if you put it in. Connect the LiPo. Check th...

0v. While pins out JST at 3.8v

olive basin Aug 2, 2025, 12:39 PM

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hmmmm

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i wonder if the battery protection module is not letting power through

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if u can connect atleast 5V on solar and try if that works

left mirage Aug 2, 2025, 12:42 PM

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About to receive it

severe halo Aug 2, 2025, 4:41 PM

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olive basin i wonder if the battery protection module is not letting power through

This is why I said to test at the jst. If there is some short in the board, the bms kicks in and shutdowns output.

olive basin Aug 2, 2025, 4:41 PM

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i do test on the jst 🙃

severe halo Aug 2, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Oh sorry I missed the test by sovereign. I though it could be the on battery bms. So it could be the onboard bms… maybe test for resistance at the onboard bms output

olive basin Aug 3, 2025, 2:39 AM

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The jst had voltage so its the onboard chip

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Could be in over discharge mode 🤷‍♀️

heady mulch Aug 3, 2025, 8:10 AM

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Ship mode is where the BPC is in uvlo mode (overdischarge mode) but the battery is charged. You unlock it by charging a little bit, it should release it.

severe halo Aug 3, 2025, 4:40 PM

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heady mulch Ship mode is where the BPC is in uvlo mode (overdischarge mode) but the battery ...

Basically, keep the battery connected, and connect usb-c to promicro

heady mulch Aug 3, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Yes

olive basin Aug 4, 2025, 11:28 AM

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Saw this come in i was dem 😅

severe halo Aug 4, 2025, 11:41 AM

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Is that the result of selling 5 units?

olive basin Aug 4, 2025, 11:42 AM

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it also includes shipping

severe halo Aug 4, 2025, 11:42 AM

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In my spanish comunity a couple of people ordered from your etsy last month following my advice.

Another one tried to do pcba but got lost in the process 😅

olive basin Aug 4, 2025, 11:42 AM

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ah ahaa

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so u made them order 🤣

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they bought the last units i had xd

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last working once

severe halo Aug 4, 2025, 11:45 AM

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Yup, is the only ready to go 27dBm that is not a G2, and the G2 is ESP based.

olive basin Aug 4, 2025, 11:45 AM

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tru

severe halo Aug 4, 2025, 11:46 AM

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I am recommending your boards a lot. Next hacker space I’m surely selling some. To help funding my knowledge 😬

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Btw this week I’m expecting delivery of the 0.3.6 with the gps

olive basin Aug 4, 2025, 11:48 AM

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awesome

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 2:44 AM

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~~any chance theres a iBOM laying around of v0.3.2?~~

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 5:42 AM

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@olive basin - Any idea what I might need to check again if I'm getting busytx'ed to death, and my battery input won't power the node, nor will the charge light come on when I have a power supply on SOLAR and a battery on BATT.

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 6:40 AM

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💀

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is that just built?

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@meager spruce

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 6:58 AM

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olive basin <@669119352070602752>

yep

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 7:00 AM

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could be dead promicro on the busytx thing

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well not dead but not fully working either 😅

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 7:05 AM

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meager spruce ~~any chance theres a iBOM laying around of v0.3.2?~~

nope 😅

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i forgor what that version looked like

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could i get a pic?

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 12:44 PM

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olive basin could i get a pic?

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@olive basin ^^^

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So it won't power off solar (doing a 5V DC in for testing), and it won't power off a fully charged battery. Reheating all my pins on the ProMicro now, and I already reseated the CN3163, the MT3608 and the XB808. I do have some concerns about the pads under my MT though, i tried to wick up some excess solder and it looks like it just smeared it between pads, but i can't confirm yet. I'll break out the microscope after to check for sure.

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 1:06 PM

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Oh ye its one of these

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3.2 should have the fixed version
https://github.com/valzzu/meshtastic-pcbs/issues/9

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I wonder what could be the issue

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 1:17 PM

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it's a near full battery though (4.17V). And the fact that it won't power off solar is confusing too.

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i have 2 (or 3?) v0.3's that are running fine. I have one remaining 0.3 thats bare. If i can't figure this out i'll just strip the board and use that one.

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 1:20 PM

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meager spruce it's a near full battery though (4.17V). And the fact that it won't power off s...

It's charging always?

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 1:25 PM

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not sure, ive done everything but break out the multi so far lol.

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reheating all the pins didn't help. Time to redo the entire thing on the v0.3. There's no obvious issues that i can address, so.... this was the first 0.3.2 I tried to build, so i might have gotten some values wrong... i don't think i did, but still...

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 1:30 PM

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Sadge

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Ive got 3 boards with busytx/rx of death 😅

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All pins are connected

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One person also had that and the only fix was changing the promicro

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 1:43 PM

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im buiding one fresh so i'll try that after, but i have a feeling its not that with the charging issues i'm seeing.

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 5:18 PM

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still not sure what happened with 0.3.2, but the last of the 0.3 boards is working perfectly

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 5:26 PM

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Great

meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 5:27 PM

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now i can try to figure out wtf happened to the 0.3.2 without stalling my project more.

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 5:28 PM

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I made the right call on leaving the gps for assembly at pcba and mounting the e22 by myself

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 5:37 PM

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Let me know if everything works

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Any suspect of something ?

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😛

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Not rly

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 5:59 PM

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ah shet

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the filter... is going to be really hard to solder

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the pads are all under the filter

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it would be nice if trhe pads were bigger

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like the ones on the e22

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had to scratch my way in

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that was tight

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I dont know if its because the soldering… or because the way I’m measuring it (the e22 has its network attached to ground so..)

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Is connected which is something

heady mulch Aug 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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Do you have another board that you can isolate the filter on to compare?

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That bandpass looks about right just the insertion loss looks hefty

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 7:09 PM

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heady mulch That bandpass looks about right just the insertion loss looks hefty

Yup. I dont think its because soldering. Most likely because the e22 internal rf network

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 7:10 PM

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severe halo

Possibly could move it bit up to allow more room

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 7:10 PM

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One thing that scared me one day I tried to test something, is that the live ufl is in ‘short’ with ground

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I mean, of course is in short from a multimeter point of view… is tied to ground with a coil.

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So I think that the missing energy is because is scaping inside the e22. Otherwise as you said the curve is good

heady mulch Aug 5, 2025, 7:15 PM

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Do you have a bare PCB to test?

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Or two sacrificial antenna cables for a suspended test?

olive basin Aug 5, 2025, 7:16 PM

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I think karman did test just the filter when they got it

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heady mulch Aug 5, 2025, 7:47 PM

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Oh yeah 🙂

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Brane no function good

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 7:51 PM

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ah yeah, I already did the test only in the filter. I was happy with the filter. Now I was testing to see if it was properly connected

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 9:15 PM

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cool, firm sees the radio and the gps just fine

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gps works fine

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the pps led does not light at all. I guess the gps is mostly sleeping, just waking up to get new position and then to sleep again

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wondering if should be put at all the pps led

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not complaining, the cost is ridiculous but some people may complain 'this thing does not light at all'

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meager spruce Aug 5, 2025, 10:02 PM

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@olive basin remember how I said I had 2 others running perfectly? Turns out one died on me without my knowing last week. It was the one rubbing on Keith's board with the 2S LTO powering it, but I suspect something happened with the charger as it won't power off battery now

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I have to go up and take it down to see what happened to it

gilded cedar Aug 5, 2025, 11:27 PM

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severe halo the pads are all under the filter

Hotplate..

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 11:32 PM

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gilded cedar Hotplate..

But why? Is it really a need? The filter comes with side contacts. Is as simple as to make the pads a little more big so the tip can touch both pcb and side pads just like when soldering the gps and the e22. Seems unnecessary to me

gilded cedar Aug 5, 2025, 11:33 PM

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Hotplate is an asset to any DIYer..

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 11:34 PM

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I have one. Is faster and safer to solder it manually

gilded cedar Aug 5, 2025, 11:34 PM

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If I can hotplate over soldering, I will. It's so much easier.. And I've been soldering for over 35 years..

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 11:34 PM

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Not risking some ‘achooo’ flying things

gilded cedar Aug 5, 2025, 11:35 PM

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You're no supposed to sneeze on it.. LOL

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And I'd never heat the full board if only doing those 2 items..

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 11:35 PM

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Accidents are not suppose to happen 🤷‍♂️

gilded cedar Aug 5, 2025, 11:36 PM

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Yea, I just make sure they don't when the hot plate is out..

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I have a big hotplate too.. 9"x9" if I remember right..

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I mean big for what I use it for..

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 11:37 PM

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If I were to wait until have time to lock out from the accidents at home I just wouldnt have hobbies right now 😅

gilded cedar Aug 5, 2025, 11:37 PM

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I bought it to replace the ESP32 modules on D1 Mini32 boards..

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upgrading from 4MB to 16MB..

severe halo Aug 5, 2025, 11:40 PM

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Still is faster to tip in that heating the pcb area. And also no need for extra care to not burn out when manipulating the hot pcb. I dont know, I dont see advantadges. Can be automated, can solder a lot of components at once.. but in this case for a couple of components I think Im faster with the traditional solder

remote jungle Aug 5, 2025, 11:51 PM

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@olive basin I'm seeing a lot of failures of washtastic boards in the chat. Do you know what the leading cause is/are?

heady mulch Aug 6, 2025, 12:27 AM

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severe halo Still is faster to tip in that heating the pcb area. And also no need for extra ...

Low temperature solder is an asset here. The high temp stuff remains in place, and the odd thing here or there can be made electrically sound in one pass.

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And hotplate > iron 9/10

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 2:09 AM

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severe halo the pps led does not light at all. I guess the gps is mostly sleeping, just waki...

Or i did something wrong

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 2:10 AM

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remote jungle <@342662708795146242> I'm seeing a lot of failures of washtastic boards in the c...

I haven't seen many 😅

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Afaik theres more working boards as to broken once

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Considering also that ive probably made over 20 boards and I just now have 3 not working

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(yet to figure out why)

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Since all the pins are connected to the lora module

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Can't change the promicro since I don't have any unfortunately

meager spruce Aug 6, 2025, 3:38 AM

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@olive basin any idea what's supposed to go on these pads? No reference identifier and it's the last component on the rebuild

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 3:39 AM

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100 ohm resistor i think

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lemme check

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1k

meager spruce Aug 6, 2025, 3:42 AM

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Wish me luck. Just prepping the PM then it's the moment of truth...

meager spruce Aug 6, 2025, 4:10 AM

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Welp, i'm happy to report that i now have a WORKING 0.3.2.

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 4:29 AM

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Awesome

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 8:55 AM

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remote jungle <@342662708795146242> I'm seeing a lot of failures of washtastic boards in the c...

I think is a mistake of a lot of messages trying to help one person.

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 9:06 AM

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olive basin Or i did something wrong

pps seems so be an output so the diode seems to be correctly connected. Looking at the output of the meshtastic console, it takes less than a second from hardsleep , get position and hardlseep again

meager spruce Aug 6, 2025, 11:23 AM

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remote jungle <@342662708795146242> I'm seeing a lot of failures of washtastic boards in the c...

User error? Trying to build a board that's ~3-4 revisions old that has since been fixed/upgraded and, in turn, resurfacing old issues that aren't really issues anymore? I mean, these two reasons are the contributing factors for me. 😁

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 11:25 AM

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severe halo pps seems so be an output so the diode seems to be correctly connected. Looking ...

i guess thats why its not on 🤣 ir its not done correctly

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 11:30 AM

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olive basin i guess thats why its not on 🤣 ir its not done correctly

? If tje pps is output, and is connected to the resistor, and the resistor to led positive, and led negative to ground, isnt that the correct connection?

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 11:30 AM

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thats how it is hooked atm

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🤷‍♀️

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maybe its not needed 😅

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 11:31 AM

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Well as I said, the gps stays out of hardsleep model for less than a second. I guess in hardsleep the pps is not working

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 11:32 AM

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perhaps

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 11:34 AM

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I think there is not an option to not hardsleep the gps in the firm..?

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 11:35 AM

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🤷‍♀️

heady mulch Aug 6, 2025, 11:57 AM

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severe halo Well as I said, the gps stays out of hardsleep model for less than a second. I g...

Check the datasheet to see if it's a drain or a source.

heady mulch Aug 6, 2025, 11:58 AM

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meager spruce User error? Trying to build a board that's ~3-4 revisions old that has since bee...

I didn't want to say that "Ali3n is doing it on hardcore mode" is the main reason, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

meager spruce Aug 6, 2025, 11:59 AM

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heady mulch I didn't want to say that "Ali3n is doing it on hardcore mode" is the main reaso...

I'm more than ok saying it, or having you say it lol

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 12:07 PM

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heady mulch Check the datasheet to see if it's a drain or a source.

https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/XaQcA5.png

heady mulch Aug 6, 2025, 12:10 PM

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remote jungle <@342662708795146242> I'm seeing a lot of failures of washtastic boards in the c...

A.li3n is doing it on hardcore mode. 😉

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 12:56 PM

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heady mulch Check the datasheet to see if it's a drain or a source.

Checked it, that why i said that ‘seems to be output’. But the datasheet is quite shitty writen..

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 1:30 PM

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I was right. I commented the down() call and pps works

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not leaving it as is, I dont want to drain the battery because the pps led

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just wanting to test it 🙂

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 1:39 PM

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hmmm... could maybe make the resistor bigger to make it dimmer

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 1:40 PM

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no no

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I dont mean the led is going to drain the battery

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the gps in full power without sleeping is what's going to drain the battery

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 1:40 PM

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a

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 1:41 PM

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the gps is good doing the hardsleep... so imho I would remove the pps led

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is never going to light

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 1:42 PM

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i shall remove it

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 1:44 PM

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removing not bcause the costs, which is nothing, but because if selling these, people can and will complain that the pps led does not work

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 1:46 PM

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Totally

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 1:48 PM

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anyways it was a nice touch to include the pps 😛

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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coming to think about it, if you remove the pps my boards will become collectors edition exclusive

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 5:36 PM

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Why not

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What if i maybe perhaps already did

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It was pull down anyway 🙃

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It output voltage

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Datasheet also doesn't say it need any pull ups or pulldowns

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Not even the diagram has any

rose python Aug 6, 2025, 5:44 PM

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my daily reminder to let ppl figure things out for themselves

severe halo Aug 6, 2025, 5:48 PM

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Yesh that’s why I called the datasheet shitty

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 5:55 PM

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But it worked when it had a "pulldown"

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 6:31 PM

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i'm reviewing the documentation. may be endevoring to build a 4.0 board.
anyone who has built one had any issues? gotchas?

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 6:34 PM

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On the first iteration there were some issues but not on the newest afaik

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@viral pier got the first one and then was it @finite palm? Who got the latest version

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U just gotta remember u need to flash the bootloader onto the nrf52 chip

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U can't do that with usb

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 6:36 PM

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was this board built in KICAD? i'm at work on my tablet so forgive me i haven't unpacked the entire github repo 😄

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 6:36 PM

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U need swd programmer

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 6:37 PM

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vagrant cloud was this board built in KICAD? i'm at work on my tablet so forgive me i haven't ...

Easyeda and ive only published the files u need to order everything

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No project files

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 6:38 PM

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perfect
thanks 🙂

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looks like JLCPCB is the pcb house of choice. ive used them alot before so should be good.

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on the solar IC is the power input wattage documented? how big of a panel will it support? sorry for 20 questions.

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i'll look over the documentation i may be able to answer most of my own questions 🙂

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this project is something i'm very interested in. NRF+1watt ++ Solar is very desierable ! gereat job @olive basin ❤️

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 6:42 PM

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vagrant cloud on the solar IC is the power input wattage documented? how big of a panel will i...

No clue rly, max voltage is 28 and max charging speed is 2A tho is should probably reduce that

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 6:42 PM

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olive basin No clue rly, max voltage is 28 and max charging speed is 2A tho is should probab...

probably plenty for most of the smaller solar panels that we will be using.

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 6:43 PM

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Oh yea

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Just reminder again u need a swd program to flash the bootloader on promicro

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For example j-link

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Or u could make a esp32 into a flasher like i did

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 6:54 PM

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understood
i'll ensure i have the required equipment. i have a ton of Wiimos D1 mini's lying around. might use that or just pick up a SWD. they aren't expensive. i think i had one but accidently flashed it into something else LOL.

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was building slimeVR sensors. gave up. now i have a BUNCH of D1's lying around not being used 😄

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 7:00 PM

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It can't be d1 mini

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Needs to be esp32 based

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Hmm I thought they were esp2 boards. 🤔

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*goes and checks

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Nope esp8266 board.

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I'll just get the flasher 😂

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 9:17 PM

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ok so working on dumping files into JLCPCB and things are kinda working for the most part. some of the parts are showing missing or not matched :/

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i mean i could hand solder this stuff but was going to see how much it was for JLCPCB to do the assembly

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them or PCBWAY

heady mulch Aug 6, 2025, 9:23 PM

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vagrant cloud ok so working on dumping files into JLCPCB and things are kinda working for the ...

You should be able to match everything with a quick search

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 9:23 PM

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understood i'm just now poking around with it

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😬 i think for over 200$ and not all the components are even going to be placed i'll just diy this thing xD more fun to buy a hot plate anyway

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for anyone who manufactured the v4 board. did you smd solder yourself or did you have that done for you?

olive basin Aug 6, 2025, 10:20 PM

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Ye good luck with soldering it urself 😅

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Nrf52 chip is the hardest probably

vagrant cloud Aug 6, 2025, 10:31 PM

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olive basin Nrf52 chip is the hardest probably

yeah i saw that it was a underneath ball grid chip

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i think with a hot plate it wont be too bad but yeah might still be beyond me :/

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still working through the BOM. kinda hit or miss on JLCPCB and LCSC

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but searching it out mostly. and the part/footprint numbers being R or C are typically Resistors and Capacitors so that helps narrow the search

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 10:53 AM

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Does anyone knows how the E22 behaves? Is the PA inside always powered even if the sx1262 radio is not transmitting?

I’m having a hardtine testing my first washtastic board which went to roof yesterday. Coverage seems very bad. I tested thing on the desk without antenna attached because meshtastic had no region configured and hence should not be transmiting. But come think about the PA and dont know if is always powered.

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Could be that the PA is fried

heady mulch Aug 7, 2025, 12:11 PM

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severe halo Does anyone knows how the E22 behaves? Is the PA inside always powered even if t...

I think it's only powered when txen goes high

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There's a lot of debate about whether MCU control is better, because you can ramp it better, but RadioLib has a longer delay iirc...

heady mulch Aug 7, 2025, 12:12 PM

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severe halo Could be that the PA is fried

Is it worse on tx or Rx?

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 12:18 PM

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Tx

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Rx seems as good as always

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The shitty datasheet says that tx_en controls the rf switch but does not say anything about the pa

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So could it be that even if the sx1262 is not transmitting, the pa is pushing its 7dBm anyways?

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But then again if the pa is always pushing, wouldnt it fry itself anyways if the rf switch is mostly in rx mode?

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Maybe the e22 is not fried at all and I should check the conections of the cavity filter and antenna 🤷‍♂️

olive basin Aug 7, 2025, 12:26 PM

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🤷‍♀️

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what if u try connecting antenna to onboard ipex of the e22

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also a power meter would help

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 12:53 PM

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olive basin what if u try connecting antenna to onboard ipex of the e22

The board is a washtastic 0.3.5.4, not the one with ceramic filter but the one with cavity filter.

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Is already directly to the e22 ipex

olive basin Aug 7, 2025, 12:54 PM

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oh that

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 12:54 PM

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olive basin also a power meter would help

Should buy a tinysa..

olive basin Aug 7, 2025, 12:54 PM

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i do want a meter cuz why not

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 12:54 PM

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I want [insert here] because why not

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XD

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What resistors did you put in the washtastic for the voltage meter? Do you know by chance the proper adc value?

olive basin Aug 7, 2025, 12:57 PM

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😅

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hold on

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i do need to change them tho to make it work it from the box

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 12:58 PM

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I guess the resistors are the same in both 0.3.5.4 and 0.3.6

olive basin Aug 7, 2025, 12:59 PM

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1.685

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 1:01 PM

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New resistors to make it work out of the box, as per comments in the variant.h

// Voltage divider value => 1.5M + 1M voltage divider on VBAT = (1.5M / (1M + 1.5M))

olive basin Aug 7, 2025, 1:02 PM

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thats what i just changed em

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 1:02 PM

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https://github.com/meshtastic/firmware/blob/master/variants/nrf52840/diy/nrf52_promicro_diy_tcxo/variant.h

GitHub

firmware/variants/nrf52840/diy/nrf52_promicro_diy_tcxo/variant.h at...

The official firmware for Meshtastic, an open-source, off-grid mesh communication system. - meshtastic/firmware

olive basin Aug 7, 2025, 1:02 PM

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tho not sure which way lol

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 1:02 PM

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Yeah I also wonder which goes to positive and which to negative

olive basin Aug 7, 2025, 1:02 PM

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1M on top and 1.5M to ground

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🤷‍♀️

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 1:02 PM

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Makes sense to put the higher value to ground

severe halo Aug 7, 2025, 1:23 PM

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olive basin 1.685

Much better

olive basin Aug 12, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Seems like i forgot to change the pcb color 😅

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Oh well

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First 20 will be green lol

heady mulch Aug 12, 2025, 7:49 PM

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I see you have all of the Henry's

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https://tenor.com/view/henry-hoover-gif-8713658829539061842

Tenor

severe halo Aug 12, 2025, 10:12 PM

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olive basin Seems like i forgot to change the pcb color 😅

Nice. I see you included the bme

olive basin Aug 13, 2025, 1:50 AM

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Didn't cost me extra so ye

lethal bay Aug 14, 2025, 3:05 AM

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olive basin Seems like i forgot to change the pcb color 😅

Awww no 7.5v option

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 3:05 AM

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then u choose 6V :)

lethal bay Aug 14, 2025, 3:06 AM

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What MPPT chip you using ?

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 3:06 AM

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cn3791

lethal bay Aug 14, 2025, 3:06 AM

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Ya, I think 7.5v needs a custom resistor value. 6v pulls too low

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It’s that 3w MiniRenogy panel. It’s such a perfect panel otherwise yet has such an awkward voltage 🤣

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 3:08 AM

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i'm using that panel on this board

lethal bay Aug 14, 2025, 3:09 AM

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Oh snap. And it works well?

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 3:09 AM

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yup

lethal bay Aug 14, 2025, 3:09 AM

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Well look at you being awesome.

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 3:09 AM

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battery has been full ever since it was installed 😅

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cuz it has good sky access

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my other node not so fortunate

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it died 😅

lethal bay Aug 14, 2025, 3:10 AM

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RIP

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 3:10 AM

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23d 8h was last reported uptime and that was 2 days ago

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at 3V

lethal bay Aug 14, 2025, 3:11 AM

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When I was 3, I was nearly Me

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 3:12 AM

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so idk what im gonna do with it 😅

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:22 PM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/QiLvKH.png

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dem

keen oriole Aug 14, 2025, 1:32 PM

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Is it (900M33S) still working for you? I was planning on building something with it, but got sidetracked. I have 4 of them in my project box. 😛

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:33 PM

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keen oriole Is it (900M33S) still working for you? I was planning on building something with...

Sadly, when on battery it would lock up during Tx without warning, so I had to go back to the M30.

keen oriole Aug 14, 2025, 1:34 PM

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meager spruce Sadly, when on battery it would lock up during Tx without warning, so I had to g...

😢 Oh well....

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:34 PM

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hmmm

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5V regulator might not supply enough current

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:35 PM

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That radio is a beast

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and a greedy one at that.

keen oriole Aug 14, 2025, 1:36 PM

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They just sit here... Very sad.

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:36 PM

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I only run M33's on Wehoopers 2W HAT now. I'm sure other boards can handle it, but I don't have much use for it outside of a static node, so the Pi's offer the most reliable solution.

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You can run the M33 on the Washtastic, no question. You just need to drop your max power to like 3-5 (vs 8). But then again, nobodys running a M33 to have it run sub-1W lol

keen oriole Aug 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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indeed!

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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I have an M30 washtastic as my mobile node right now. Its actually doing really well.

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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1,2A tx 😅

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at max

keen oriole Aug 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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I'm trying to find that HAT. That's what I was going to build... I bought these back before prices went up.

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:40 PM

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olive basin 1,2A tx 😅

https://tenor.com/view/greedy-eating-eat-eat-it-all-kirby-gif-17838435

Tenor

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:40 PM

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interesting, the 5V converter should be able to deliver upto 2.4A buuttt 😅

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guess not lol

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or voltage drops

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:40 PM

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olive basin interesting, the 5V converter should be able to deliver upto 2.4A buuttt 😅

i was running on a 0.3.0, dunno if you changed components since then.

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:40 PM

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that could also explain

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:40 PM

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meager spruce i was running on a 0.3.0, dunno if you changed components since then.

ooohh

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yeaaaa

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i have

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:41 PM

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keen oriole I'm trying to find that HAT. That's what I was going to build... I bought these ...

Good luck with it, if you're doing PCBA you'll be fine. But if you're like me and you're allergic to PCBA, then you're in for a project...

keen oriole Aug 14, 2025, 1:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/well-there's-your-problem-mythbusters-adam-savage-jamie-hyneman-broken-gif-17934071823679545476

Tenor

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:42 PM

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I will say @olive basin has always been VERY good about making their boards easy to read/understand.

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Hoopers was like trying to crack a cipher...

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:43 PM

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now using TPS61230ARNSR instead of MT3608

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tho i think the biggest thing on 0.3 was the layout

keen oriole Aug 14, 2025, 1:43 PM

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meager spruce Good luck with it, if you're doing PCBA you'll be fine. But if you're like me a...

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-idea-what-i'm-doing-parks-and-rec-q-hindi-kulfy-gif-17397316167312858889

Tenor

i have no idea what i'm doing..gif

▶ Play video

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:43 PM

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it was horrible

keen oriole Aug 14, 2025, 1:43 PM

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At this point, I'd rather not reinvent the wheel if someone else already has a design.

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:44 PM

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meager spruce I have an M30 washtastic as my mobile node right now. Its actually doing really...

u should update the case to fit the never one haha

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:46 PM

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keen oriole At this point, I'd rather not reinvent the wheel if someone else already has a d...

Look closely and tell me whats missing here (aside from actual components)

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:47 PM

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olive basin u should update the case to fit the never one haha

you mean an 0.4? I haven't reached the point in my life where I hate myself that much to inflict that much pain.

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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meager spruce you mean an 0.4? I haven't reached the point in my life where I hate myself tha...

v0.3.5

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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olive basin u should update the case to fit the never one haha

i actually should have taken a picture of it for the projects thread, didn't occur to me.

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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olive basin v0.3.5

i don't mind buying new boards, its the new components that's been killing me with these f'ing tarrifs.

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Tom helped me finally fix my ME25's power issue, so i've been meaning to put in a new order. I'll throw some 0.3.5's on to have for when i get around to putting in a new LCSC order.

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:52 PM

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https://www.elecrow.com/store/valzzu

Elecrow will also be selling them eventually when manufacturing finishes

meager spruce Aug 14, 2025, 1:56 PM

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I just went to the Elecrow site and saw the ThinkNode M1, it initially showed a $37.50 price then when the page finally loaded (and it likely did the GeoIP lookup), it shot up to $53.90 hahhaha

olive basin Aug 14, 2025, 1:56 PM

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Yeaaa.....

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WashTastic is $85

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shipping + tarrifs 😅

olive basin Aug 15, 2025, 3:45 AM

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would u look at that

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severe halo Aug 15, 2025, 4:35 PM

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beautiful

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I just found by looking at your picture, the bluetooth antena has traces resembling a coil

olive basin Aug 15, 2025, 4:36 PM

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oh

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ur right lol

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u suspect 20 boards will be avaialble on elecrow soonish

severe halo Aug 15, 2025, 4:38 PM

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I still have 10 boards... 5 with gps and filter and 5 like the one you showed, but without the BME280

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these days I have been having fun with a carputer

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finally pulled the trigger and got another new toy

olive basin Aug 15, 2025, 4:39 PM

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nice

gilded cedar Aug 15, 2025, 6:08 PM

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@olive basin Any ideas on what would need to be changed to make this support a 33 radio ?

olive basin Aug 15, 2025, 6:24 PM

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I'm fairly certain 03.5 can support it.
The boost converter is better plus the layout is way better than the old version

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U could try drawing like 1.2A from it to see

opaque flame Aug 15, 2025, 6:26 PM

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How thick are your traces? You can use more than 1 via

olive basin Aug 15, 2025, 6:26 PM

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.5mm iirc

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5v rail

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Lemme check

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.75mm xd

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added few more vias on power lines

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but yea, only one way to find out if it can supply enough current to not die 🤣

keen oriole Aug 15, 2025, 8:46 PM

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olive basin but yea, only one way to find out if it can supply enough current to not die 🤣

If I can buy one before they sell out, I'll try the 33 radio on it. It's all I've got! 😛

gilded cedar Aug 16, 2025, 12:50 AM

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keen oriole If I can buy one before they sell out, I'll try the 33 radio on it. It's all I'v...

You in the US ? I'd be willing to split an order of 5 PCBAs...

keen oriole Aug 16, 2025, 8:04 PM

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gilded cedar You in the US ? I'd be willing to split an order of 5 PCBAs...

I am!

deep tiger Aug 16, 2025, 11:43 PM

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I’d be down for a group buy too

gilded cedar Aug 17, 2025, 1:40 AM

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@wary yoke @deep tiger How many do you guys want to get ?

deep tiger Aug 17, 2025, 2:22 AM

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I’m happy with 1 or 2 if necessary

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I just want the regular 30db radio though

tired coral Aug 17, 2025, 6:53 AM

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Are you getting the 33db?

cunning breach Aug 17, 2025, 10:43 AM

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olive basin https://www.elecrow.com/store/valzzu Elecrow will also be selling them eventual...

The pictures of the pcb show pads on the back for a gps, but I don't see which gps chips are supported 🤔

olive basin Aug 17, 2025, 10:45 AM

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all i know that most work 😅 thats what ive read

cunning breach Aug 17, 2025, 10:45 AM

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Fair, just checking... not that I need a gps anyways 😂

olive basin Aug 17, 2025, 10:46 AM

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for sure i know ATGM336H works xd

olive basin Aug 18, 2025, 5:22 PM

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deep tiger Aug 19, 2025, 12:02 AM

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When do tariffs get loaded on elecrow… I’m seeing $85+9 shipping to USA

heady mulch Aug 19, 2025, 12:02 AM

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Tariffs get charged at your end, I think.

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Well, the importer pays.

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Which is probably fedex

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Who charge you.

granite scarab Aug 19, 2025, 12:06 AM

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It depends.. they can be prepaid or postpaid.. most of the purchases I've made have been prepaid. For example.. my costs of ordering PCBs from JLCPCB has basically doubled from six to eight months ago for the same PCBs

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With them they charge it up front and provide it to the company handling import / customs.. whatever shipper it is

deep tiger Aug 19, 2025, 12:08 AM

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I could probably google this 🫣 but if anyone knows off hand that would be helpful - what’s a guess on how much those run lately

granite scarab Aug 19, 2025, 12:09 AM

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deep tiger I could probably google this 🫣 but if anyone knows off hand that would be helpf...

55%

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It almost made me resort to domestic production of some PCBs.. then the lowest domestic quote I got was $408 compared to JLCPCB's $126 even with the tariffs

deep tiger Aug 19, 2025, 12:12 AM

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Well dang.

tame sigil Aug 19, 2025, 12:24 AM

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I ran a quote through JLCPCB for Qty 5 of the Washtastic boards last week. Using the 0.3.5 version with assembly ( without the pro micro nrf module) came out to about $340 with all tariffs and shipping.

granite scarab Aug 19, 2025, 12:39 AM

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The worst part is when you have to pay for additional processes like flying wire tests or x-ray inspection, etc... most of the chinese manufacturers like JLC are adding that onto the cost of the production and making it subject to the tariff also.

To me.. those are services they've performed for us and should be paid separately so the tariff doesn't apply. It isn't something they're shipping to you as a product. The tariff SHOULD only apply to the actual physical product costs... but it's impossible to explain that to the customer service reps

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Sorry, I'm kinda sidetracking this self-promotion thread with non-washtastic conversation.. my bad

tame sigil Aug 19, 2025, 2:22 AM

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Yeah they even provide a chart explaining what process or component falls under different tariff rates, but then just do a flat 55% on total from what I could tell.

severe halo Aug 19, 2025, 8:30 AM

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tame sigil I ran a quote through JLCPCB for Qty 5 of the Washtastic boards last week. Using...

woah! that's more than double for what costs to me the same 5 boards. I'm seeing $158 for x5 v0.3.5 fully assembled (but the promicro) and shipped, tax included and without coupons.

heady mulch Aug 19, 2025, 8:37 AM

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Merkins have that 55% tariff, but iirc they've lost the cheap shipping rates, too. Presumably that's because they rely on a volume discount which doesn't exist anymore.

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Worth noting that, at least for the UK, orders under £125 are deminimis-ish exempt from duties, whereas over that need to either use a DDP carrier like DHL, or risk a bill when they do arrive.

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So there's a wobbly bit in the net-cost line around there, and I try to keep all my orders under 130$/100£ for that reason

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Iris getting her design listed as singles from Elecrow is really good from that perspective: group buys might be hit by a duty charge, and go over the limit, but with singles it's potentially cheaper per unit because they skip various things.

tame sigil Aug 19, 2025, 9:53 AM

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severe halo woah! that's more than double for what costs to me the same 5 boards. I'm seeing...

Through JLCPCB? Mine was like $200 when it was just in my cart. I didn't see the full picture until I went to go checkout.

severe halo Aug 19, 2025, 10:23 AM

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tame sigil Through JLCPCB? Mine was like $200 when it was just in my cart. I didn't see the...

yes. I just went full order just to be sure before typing my previous message.

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for the record, this was what a 0.3.5 cost me 1st july without the E22 module (I already had them from aliexpress)

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I guess is because I'm located at EU.

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I would love to see the costs breakdown in a USA order

olive basin Aug 20, 2025, 2:27 AM

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I've sold 5/20 😅

cunning breach Aug 20, 2025, 2:28 AM

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I don't get paid until the 29th 😅

olive basin Aug 20, 2025, 2:40 AM

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I don't think they Will be sold out before that

olive basin Aug 20, 2025, 3:29 AM

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oh wait, one person cancelled

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so 3/20

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how sad

olive basin Aug 20, 2025, 1:22 PM

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gotta raise prices on elecrow 😅 but after this first batch of 20 😅

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usd values is lower than euro sooo yea

tame sigil Aug 20, 2025, 3:22 PM

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severe halo yes. I just went full order just to be sure before typing my previous message.

It looks like you did not have the BME280 on your build which forces standard PCBA for me. Also adds about $15 to the total for the BME module.

severe halo Aug 20, 2025, 6:41 PM

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ah yes, that's true

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I did try out to add the bme back then and yes, saw how costs went up because switching to standard pcba

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$15 was the least cost, thats the total for the 5 units

severe halo Aug 20, 2025, 9:09 PM

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@olive basin did you stop selling on etsy?

olive basin Aug 20, 2025, 11:36 PM

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severe halo <@342662708795146242> did you stop selling on etsy?

Just ran out of boards

tame sigil Aug 21, 2025, 1:50 AM

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severe halo $15 was the least cost, thats the total for the 5 units

Before shipping and tariffs.

2025-08-19_21_33_55-JLCPCB_PCBA_Viewer_Mozilla_Firefox.png

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I might run the no BME version to see what it would cost

severe halo Aug 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

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yeah... this is why I ordered without BME280, and added them by buying them at aliexpress then manually wiring them to the washtastic board.

tame sigil Aug 21, 2025, 8:04 PM

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No BME brought it to like $250 with shipping and tariffs

olive basin Aug 22, 2025, 9:33 AM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/BoEF4C.png

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mm

severe halo Aug 22, 2025, 9:34 AM

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one should ask, what means confirmed

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maybe shipped, maybe received by the customer.. ?

olive basin Aug 22, 2025, 9:34 AM

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all are pending atm

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well processing

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i think it is when they are sent

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idk

severe halo Aug 22, 2025, 9:43 AM

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I understand that 'salable' are already manufactured and in stock ready to ship

olive basin Aug 22, 2025, 9:45 AM

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they are manufactured but still in testing 😅 tbh idk why they even listed them xd

severe halo Aug 22, 2025, 9:46 AM

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yeah, if they are not in stock because they are being tested, they should not be listed as salable

olive basin Aug 22, 2025, 9:46 AM

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mhm

severe halo Aug 22, 2025, 6:44 PM

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🙁

olive basin Aug 22, 2025, 7:00 PM

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Rip

severe halo Aug 22, 2025, 7:16 PM

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yup... I looked that board was 'working' because it did theradio init

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but when tries to tx does that

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I just soldered a second board and is doing the SAME

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i can not believe it

severe halo Aug 22, 2025, 7:32 PM

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multimeter says I still know how to soldering

left mirage Aug 22, 2025, 9:10 PM

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tame sigil Aug 22, 2025, 11:31 PM

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I have just continued from that message. I have not ordered any Washtastic boards yet though. I did have similar warning ordering femtofox CE boards and they work. I think @olive basin has a simple guide on one of their other boards that tells you to just click continue.

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Guide for ordering Mesh-Tab: https://github.com/valzzu/Mesh-Tab/blob/main/PCBs/Mesh-Tab/Ordering.md

GitHub

Mesh-Tab/PCBs/Mesh-Tab/Ordering.md at main · valzzu/Mesh-Tab

The wanna be T-Deck. Contribute to valzzu/Mesh-Tab development by creating an account on GitHub.

olive basin Aug 23, 2025, 2:45 AM

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Yup, just click continue

severe halo Aug 23, 2025, 10:59 PM

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The tension voltage divider is the same in the washtastic v0.3.5 and the version with gps and band pass filter?

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 2:38 AM

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Should be iirc

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 7:50 AM

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Will check against the files just to be sure

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I got up to the roof and changed washtastic board 0.3.5.4 for the 0.3.6 gps and noticed a small drift in the voltage reporting. The adc value was properly set 1.685

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 7:52 AM

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hmmm

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lemme check

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 7:52 AM

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On another note, time fix is driving me nuts

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These are the reporting for device, environment and gps

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Is fixing time somewere in 2019

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 7:54 AM

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thats something i cant do anything about 😅

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 7:54 AM

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I know this is not a specific bug of the board

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Is software related but commenting here if someone knows whats happening

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 8:10 AM

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olive basin lemme check

confirmed, they are the same

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from the 0.3.5 board .csv:
15 1M R6 R0402 1 0402WGF1004TCE UNI-ROYAL(厚声) LCSC C26083 0.001
16 330kΩ R7,R8 R0603 2 0603WAF3303T5E UNI-ROYAL(厚声) LCSC C23137 0.001

from the 0.3.6 filter and gps board
"23" "1M" "R6" "R0402" "1" "0402WGF1004TCE" "UNI-ROYAL(厚声)" "LCSC" "C26083" "0.001"
"24" "330kΩ" "R7,R8" "R0603" "2" "0603WAF3303T5E" "UNI-ROYAL(厚声)" "LCSC" "C23137" "0.001"

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:26 PM

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This is driving me nuts. None of these boards works (i still have boards to test) they all recognize the radio sx1262 and init it properly but all of them fail to tx with busytx error.

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 2:27 PM

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tf

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:27 PM

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One of the washtastic boards, the left one, has pins soldered to board but not to promicro. I tested 4 promicros and all them gave me the same busytx

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 2:28 PM

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can it rly be that the lora is dead?

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:28 PM

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On all the 4 ones?

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 2:28 PM

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hmmm

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yea prob not

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@heady mulch u got ideas

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 2:29 PM

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Check the pro-micro doesn't have any loose strands of ground plane on the edges.

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Check the E22 doesn't have any shorts under it.

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:31 PM

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the radio modules were hand soldered, not uising paste and hotplate. they cant have shorts

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 2:32 PM

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i have 3 also that doent work so yea. if u get them working maybe i have the same issue on them

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:32 PM

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the promicros were also hand soldered

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but still, I get the error con 4 manually pressed promicros on a board that has the pins soldered

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so how come they all recognize and init the radio properly, but none can transmit ?

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what's the meaning of busytx error ?

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 2:37 PM

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severe halo what's the meaning of busytx error ?

Usually busy or IRQ line

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 2:37 PM

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severe halo the radio modules were hand soldered, not uising paste and hotplate. they cant h...

Yeah, no. Try again 🙂

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Try checking for shorts pin to pin and end to end.

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Also worth giving it all a squirt of flux and reheating.

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 2:44 PM

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i think my issue is promicros fault since i changed the lora module on one and still didnt work

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 2:45 PM

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-# Flaky edges

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I'm just checking AliExpress for nail files...

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:46 PM

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This board had the radio soldered by hotplate and paste. I just manually soldered pins rows and pushed by pressure the promicro. Is also giving me busytx

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 2:46 PM

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I've heard people file the promicro to turn it into a castellated board.

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 2:47 PM

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severe halo This board had the radio soldered by hotplate and paste. I just manually soldere...

Is the Rxen pin connected?

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 2:47 PM

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severe halo This board had the radio soldered by hotplate and paste. I just manually soldere...

rx en is on the other side 😅

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/f9CZyV.png

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:47 PM

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really? shit

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 2:48 PM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/GMjeMS.png

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:49 PM

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welkl that would explain the manually testing

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then.. do I have 3 fully soldered not working boards with the same error ??

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 2:52 PM

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severe halo then.. do I have 3 fully soldered not working boards with the same error ??

Check for loose flakes of ground plane on the edge of the promicros

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Check using for shorts using a high ohm meter

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Check continuity using a low ohm meter.

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 2:57 PM

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I dont get what a ‘loose flake’ stands for

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 2:58 PM

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severe halo I dont get what a ‘loose flake’ stands for

Like the fibreglass fibres, with bits of ground plane on them

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I can't find the picture.

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#1194757507013427250 message

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Bare ground plane on the edge.

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 3:05 PM

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Hmmmmmm. Gotta do that too

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Next week

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 3:14 PM

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I'm out of ideas

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I dont have proffesional tools, just a standard polymeter

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multimeter

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in continuity mode all the pins of the promicro gives proper contact to the ones at the radio module

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no obvious shorts between them

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you are not going to believe this

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the boards I was testing before soldering were indeed not working because missing the rx_en (silly silly karman that wanted to test for bad promicros and did it wrong)

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but the 3 boards I had already soldered and were giving the same txBusy error... i got them working

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they needed the battery

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Don't hask me how or why... interference of the always switching lipo charger? not enought power from usb host?

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but plugging the battery solved the infinite busy tx

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 3:32 PM

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😅

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well good

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well i still got an issues lol

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 3:34 PM

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yeah, the promicros are popular at failing.. that's why I wanted to test them before soldering

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What I couldnt foresee was that the missing battery would trigger such failure

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 3:35 PM

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gotta make a promicro testing board 😅

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 3:35 PM

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full of leds and pogo pins please

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i know of a lot of pople that would order them

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 3:35 PM

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hmmmmm...

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and then custom firmware to light all the leds xd

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maybe is sequence

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/DpPMPt.png

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😢

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 3:45 PM

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in any case, there must be some kind of combo with the washtastic board

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maybe with the 5v buck

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I have 2 faketecs and tested wiuth them, no problem without the battery

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 3:45 PM

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i think it is the 5V boost

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and the lora module trying to tx

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promicro cant supply enough current most likely

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idk

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something fails anyway

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 4:01 PM

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maybe the 5v buck is too close to the radio

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:04 PM

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i doubt

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im more inclined towards the promicros insufficinent current it can give

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 4:07 PM

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could it be given that tx wants 500mW by default

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:10 PM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/DHL36b.png

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 4:11 PM

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come to hink about it, the promicro doesnt have a usb 5v out as the xiao has

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:12 PM

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yeaaa

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maybe i should add disclaimer on the board xd

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 4:31 PM

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olive basin maybe i should add disclaimer on the board xd

Need to add a capacitor on the battery pins.

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:32 PM

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there is

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 4:34 PM

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How big 😉

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:34 PM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/K5X7Ie.png

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 4:35 PM

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I recall seeing something on the ti forums about running something like this without the battery connected, and they basically said "use a honking great big one"

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That's the 1206 100uf 6.3v one

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?

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:35 PM

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yea, that was mainly to reduce the ripple current

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those 3

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/enHNZA.png

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no clue if the pogos are the correct size tho 😅

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https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/C5157403.html?s_z=n_pogo%2520pin

LCSC Electronics

YZ00915055R-02 | Xinyangze | Price | In Stock | LCSC Electronics

YZ00915055R-02 by Xinyangze - In-stock components at LCSC. Price from $0.1547. Free access YZ00915055R-02 datasheet, Package, pinout diagrams, and BOM tools.

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 4:41 PM

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This is the murata equivalent part

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Basically it's like 33uF at 5v

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:41 PM

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💀

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oop

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 4:43 PM

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Yee

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The Samsung one is even worse, but I can't find the chart.

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:44 PM

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💀

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 4:44 PM

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That's the real reason designers just chuck 3 caps at everything.

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:48 PM

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https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/hYncDM.png

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beautifull

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 4:51 PM

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I was joking...

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Just tell people to use it with a battery attached

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Pretty sure @meager spruce already said something similar.

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:53 PM

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heady mulch Just tell people to use it with a battery attached

ill have to do that 😅

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:54 PM

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olive basin https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/hYncDM.png

https://zipline.valzzu.xyz/u/7wIzlj.png

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5 boards

meager spruce Aug 24, 2025, 4:57 PM

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heady mulch Pretty sure <@669119352070602752> already said something similar.

Power cycle it.
No?
Reheat the solder joints on the headers.
Still nothing?
Did you try connecting a battery to it?

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Those 3 steps tend to cure most Meshtastic DIY project headaches

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:58 PM

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haha yea

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 4:58 PM

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what components are 27E ?

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 4:59 PM

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pogo pins were 24€ about

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plus 10€ pecial fee

heady mulch Aug 24, 2025, 5:08 PM

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Oh, you're making a nail bed?

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You sure there's not a 12 pin pogo clip somewhere for cheaper?

olive basin Aug 24, 2025, 5:09 PM

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Maybe

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Possibly

severe halo Aug 24, 2025, 5:18 PM

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gotta see those boards

severe halo Aug 25, 2025, 9:50 AM

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I recall having seen a picture of a power test to the e22-900m30s showing full power but cant find it

heady mulch Aug 25, 2025, 9:53 AM

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severe halo I recall having seen a picture of a power test to the e22-900m30s showing full p...

The hackaday post?

severe halo Aug 25, 2025, 9:58 AM

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I though I had seen some pictures here

olive basin Aug 25, 2025, 9:59 AM

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gotta find em

severe halo Aug 25, 2025, 10:02 AM

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nah don't worry

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found a post in hackaday.io

olive basin Aug 25, 2025, 10:02 AM

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pretty sure there were more

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idk

severe halo Aug 25, 2025, 10:03 AM

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thanks!

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also adding this

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from here: https://hackaday.io/project/202604-femtofox-pro-tx-power-power-consumption-testing

Femtofox Pro TX Power + Power Consumption Testing

The CDEBYTE E22-900M30S LoRa gateway used in the Femtofox pro consists of 22dBm SX1262 FM Modulator IC, + a 8dBm nominal amplfiier, giving something like 30dBm TX power, theoretically... The actual TX power is highly voltage-dependent, and deviates signficantly from the values listed in the datasheet. I investigated that, and plotted the nominal...

olive basin Aug 25, 2025, 10:47 AM

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ah yes

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femto

silver crest Aug 25, 2025, 4:36 PM

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Somehow my washtastic board drained by battery all the way down to 0v

olive basin Aug 25, 2025, 5:02 PM

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WHAAT

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what version?

silver crest Aug 25, 2025, 5:06 PM

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The voltage divider was also bugging out

olive basin Aug 25, 2025, 5:06 PM

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reheheheh

silver crest Aug 25, 2025, 5:07 PM

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0.3v board

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Is it suppose to have a battery cutoff? @olive basin

olive basin Aug 25, 2025, 5:53 PM

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Ah, i think that one has the battery cutoff wiring mistake

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0.3.2 fixed it i think

silver crest Aug 25, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Ahh

meager spruce Aug 26, 2025, 8:47 PM

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On the 0.3.0/0.3.2 boards, whats the minimum Voltage for the solar port? feeding it 3.97 and it's not booting. Didn't look like it was getting power from the multmeter. It powers up fine from usb-in on the PM. Wondering if something could have gotten cooked on the PCB...

heady mulch Aug 26, 2025, 8:54 PM

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meager spruce On the 0.3.0/0.3.2 boards, whats the minimum Voltage for the solar port? feeding...

Thats feeding the CN3791 directly, right?

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I think it needs to be 4.5v

meager spruce Aug 26, 2025, 9:00 PM

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ugh.... guess im going to the battery pins then...

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LFP in, external charger

silver crest Aug 26, 2025, 10:09 PM

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I ended up just plugging right into the usbc of the pro micro for my solar panel

severe halo Aug 27, 2025, 8:55 AM

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your solar panel has a 5v output regulator ?

silver crest Aug 27, 2025, 2:36 PM

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severe halo your solar panel has a 5v output regulator ?

Yeah

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It’s a 5w Soshine panel

near maple Aug 28, 2025, 3:39 AM

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Anyone happen to know how long elecrow take to ship? Ordered a washtastic node on 22/08 and it's still displaying processing, no word on shipping, and payment has definitely been taken

olive basin Aug 28, 2025, 3:48 AM

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fucking elecrow

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ill go bug em about it

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i did also spend money on the boards to be produced so u are sure i want them to send em 😅

olive basin Aug 28, 2025, 6:39 AM

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They seem to still have issues in testing the boards

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idk why they even listed them as in stock

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cunning breach Aug 28, 2025, 9:54 AM

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Didn't you say they needed a battery to start up properly?

olive basin Aug 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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aparently that wasnt the issue

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at this point im leaning against something not connected properly

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they did offer to send me samples to test etc

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might have to do that

cunning breach Aug 28, 2025, 10:05 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/hmm-thinking-emoji-gif-9901919

Tenor

severe halo Aug 28, 2025, 10:59 AM

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olive basin

lawl, thats the typical error when the promicro is faulty

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no capable of finding the sx1262

olive basin Aug 28, 2025, 11:00 AM

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reeeee

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ill inform them 😅

severe halo Aug 28, 2025, 11:01 AM

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wait

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just make sure that you gave them the proper firmware

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if they are trying the wrong one, the pin definitions wont match the sx1262

olive basin Aug 28, 2025, 11:01 AM

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i did

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first washtastic then promicro

severe halo Aug 28, 2025, 11:04 AM

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the firmware initialization probes for several radio modules, as you see in the pasted log, and when doesn't find any then falls to error -3

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but is weird.. are they getting this error on all the manufactured boards o just one ?

olive basin Aug 28, 2025, 11:05 AM

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good question, will have to ask that too

severe halo Aug 28, 2025, 11:06 AM

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cunning breach Didn't you say they needed a battery to start up properly?

the battery thing happens when trying to tx in usb power. Radio init happens happily

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and tx doesnt happen if you do not choose the lora region

olive basin Aug 29, 2025, 9:26 AM

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okay it seems to be on all of the boards 🤔

severe halo Aug 29, 2025, 9:56 AM

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do you have a detailed picture of a final assembly board ?

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I'm questioning if their 'promicro' version has the same pinout of the ones we usually buy at aliexpress

#WashTastic - 1W node based on E22-900M30S and promicro NRF52