meshing-around BBS/utility BOT

[somber condor]

well... I don;t know... 🙂

[gentle kestrel]

The issue being, the confusions around sudo

It seems to be making a lot of problems (likely me)

The service should be fired up on meshbot

back in the day just used pi and let everyone figure it out

[somber condor]

so... just to clear up any confusion for me.. We we installing using the "pi" user (sudo ./install.sh)?

[gentle kestrel]

It really all depends, on your system. Everyone has an opinion I feel

As long as it works for most I’m happy

I’m worried broke it

[somber condor]

so I installed as pi.... logged in as pi..... can't access the meshbot owned file/directories

[gentle kestrel]

You can, just depends

Everyone has an opinion here

It’s endless

I say run as root and f’ it

it’s just a bot

[somber condor]

running with sudo... runs as root doesen't it?

[gentle kestrel]

Runs as sudo

Which is you with more access

Like UAC in windows

https://github.com/SpudGunMan/meshing-around/blob/main/etc/set-permissions.sh

This was an attempt to fix any fox’s which might hiccup

Again all depends

Some don’t update much or do it via other methods

A git pull won’t experience this alone

Either will a release download if you just load it in without install

[somber condor]

so... I understand what/why...

still not sure why my pull this morning broke my installation... maybe a permissions thing?

I think that maybe the installation instructions should give some guidance on what user account you should be using to complete the install. It will help standardize things going forward. I really do not like installing application as root

but... I can if I know I have to do that

[gentle kestrel]

Hard to say post install but yes my guess is permissions? The logs all archive so seeing why the bot shut down would be noteworthy

I did just churn out a ton of refactor and enhancing

[somber condor]

it never restarted after the pull

[gentle kestrel]

If you got me on a oh shit moment it could had a bug

[somber condor]

there was nothing in t elogs

[gentle kestrel]

there is now?

It seems happy?

[somber condor]

checking

ls

[gentle kestrel]

Cool

[somber condor]

wrong window 🙂

yes....

looks normal after the install

[gentle kestrel]

Cool, if it has any other wacky holla

[somber condor]

now its just a permissions issue around editing the files, accessing the directories... I hate to sudo su... but it is what it is

[gentle kestrel]

If you install, and use the logged in user and not meshbot

So if you are pi, ignore meshbot user use pi

[somber condor]

right... didn't know at the time.... Should not have created the meshbot user

[gentle kestrel]

Another wild trick is just chmod +777 config.ini

[somber condor]

I'm gonna uninstall again and re-install to test the permissions..

[somber condor]

yes... but trying to test the installation scripts

[gentle kestrel]

Thank you!

It’s hard for me to know what I missed unless I crash into it

[somber condor]

question... It does not appear that the "w3 server or reporting service" is installing on my pi when I run the install script (no errors noted). Is there something that I should be monitoring>

[cold jungle]

Had to chown user config.ini after a pull yesterday

[gentle kestrel]

Correct I’m not sure it was working correctly to update and haven’t built a new box to test yet

I commented it out from install

But it should be there and ready to light up?

That whole process and engine needs a review I haven’t for months

[gentle kestrel]

This was due to likely the original install not setting this timely

Thanks

[somber condor]

I will test...

Everything else is working normally after the re-install. Just got a single warning noted in the installation : " WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=4, connect=None, read=None, redirect=None, status=None)) after connection broken by 'ProtocolError('Connection aborted.', RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response'))': /simple/dbus-fast/"

[gentle kestrel]

I have been seeing this randomly on UDP more

MeshD

My logs are all WiFi issues

From meshD which isn’t WiFi

[somber condor]

Hmmm.... I review my Wifi logs too

[gentle kestrel]

In my case I have a bad MQTT IP isn’t helping

[gentle kestrel]

I also dare say the overnight solar was intense

[gentle kestrel]

Pushed a release with the reporting timer back in

[drowsy rock]

Solar storm?

[gentle kestrel]

https://www.spaceweather.com/

[drowsy rock]

Oh yeah I saw that. I was thinking maybe we had something headed our way also that I missed.

[gentle kestrel]

Kinda do the next 48? Worth keeping an eye on

“Yesterday” was huge I saw it in rF and earthquakes

Whatever happened .. combined with that huge thing in Jamaica .. woah crazy overall || and bill changing step ||

[gentle kestrel]

Tallest node idea was good one

Splitting it out

[somber condor]

Am I right in my understanding that all of the custom messages are now using the channel defined in the config.ini?

[gentle kestrel]

They use whatever you set

Or should anyway

Checkin reminders might not be working, need to check that

This was always the time consuming part for me/ the logic was fast - I got not logic to it yet just plays dumb

Makes a nice chess

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-bear-oh-bother-gif-15756338

Alerting has a bug

Now patched

@somber condor

Works again haha I fell asleep waiting for this last night

I should stop changes after dark

[drowsy rock]

Shit I LITERALLY finished installing then read this 😂

[gentle kestrel]

If it helps i let out a loud moan when I saw this

[drowsy rock]

Will do again right now. I'm guessing this is part of what you fixed?

This is odd

If i do as su, will it break anything?

Ran it again and it worked fine

👍🏻

[gentle kestrel]

If you are installed in /opt/ https://github.com/SpudGunMan/meshing-around/blob/main/etc/set-permissions.sh

Give this a whirl

It will reset the owners of stuff

If checklist isn’t working delete the .db and just start a new one it’s very possible the schema is bad

[drowsy rock]

Ok

[gentle kestrel]

It’s in data/checklist.db

[somber condor]

So… the python code references “scheduler Channel”, which I assume is the channel defined in config.ini?

I know it can be changed. But the default is…..

[gentle kestrel]

Yea should be from config.ini

I know mine takes it anyway

[somber condor]

Thanks…. So do you see any value in allowing users to add channels of their own in config.ini (ie: alert, chitchat, etc.), and reference these by name in custom_scheduler.py?

[gentle kestrel]

You should in custom_ just be able to replace with 1,1 or whatever

so use ini default value or set one

There is no my_var

[somber condor]

But there is no 1,1 anymore…. Maybe I am misunderstanding

[gentle kestrel]

Put the number where the label is

That value will take precedence

[somber condor]

Gotcha

[drowsy rock]

Alright that all worked.

[drowsy rock]

Is there a way to check the location of a check-in over the mesh?

[gentle kestrel]

Haven’t thought of a good way yet to handle that concept

[heady raven]

Aloha -- using ollama in a few ways on a femtofox and RPI..
Running Ollama has been hit and miss -- while wiki kind a ROCKS hihi

INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 SendingChannel: Average query time is: 42 seconds | WARNING | System: LLM Query: Ollama API request failed: HTTPConnectionPool(host='192.168.86.24', port=11434): Read timed out. > | INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 SendingChannel: ⛔️ Request Error

I get this a lot of this on both configs -- I run Ollama on a pi5 15gb -- and link meshing-around -- I wonder about the network latency of this... When I use Ollama where it's installed its quick and responsive.
any thoughts..?
Just playing

[gentle kestrel]

It would, show up on the map reporting

[heady raven]

It likes telling you who it is -- this is reliable output--

[gentle kestrel]

Yes just run ollama

[gentle kestrel]

Is this only with longer questions

Wiki added hints?

urlTimeoutSeconds * 5

This is the timeout for the request

Do debug logs look ok no weird errors about multiple requests

I may be using the pi too much

What is your llmUseWikiContext =

[heady raven]

I don't have that in the ini--

wikipedia = True ollama = True ollamamodel = gemma3:latest ollamahostname = http://192.168.dude.blah:11434 storeforward = True

I had to run it in debug and... yeah -- kind a cool and 🤔
INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 ReceivedChannel: askai hilo hawaii is located where? From: wh6gxz meshtoad | DEBUG | System: Bot detected Commands:[{'cmd': 'askai', 'index': 0}] From: wh6gxz meshtoad isDM:False playing:False | DEBUG | System: Location data for 2022076085 is 19.4248704, -155.2154624 | INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 SendingChannel: Please wait, response could take 30+ seconds. Fund the SysOp's GPU budget! | DEBUG | System: LLM Query: Using Ollama API for LLM query hilo hawaii is located where? From:2022076085 | WARNING | System: LLM Query: Response exceeded 450 characters, requesting truncation | DEBUG | System: Splitting #chunks: 2, Total length: 186 | INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 Chunker1/2 SendingChannel: Here’s a shortened version: Hawaii is located in the **Pacific Ocean**,> | INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 Chunker2/2 SendingChannel: large archipelago of islands. | INFO | System: 🪫 New low battery record: 99.0% from NodeID:1839130823 ShortName:HS

OK.. really enjoy meshing-around 🥔 🔫 I'll be back-- time for kaukau

[lunar shore]

This surprised me. Someone played a game that I didn't even know existed. Granted I'm not much a gamer but is this new?

Do I have to give them a real prize?

[gentle kestrel]

Haha awesome I slid it in

It’s to encourage more chatter on channels

It collects use of emote

it may be used in a larger game some day

For now just for fun 🙂

If you think of any enhancements holla

There is also a word of the day and a BINGO word search

[lunar shore]

That is hilarious. So, someone picked at random was singled out in our local channel!?

[gentle kestrel]

They used 👋 perfectly timed

It’s a fruit machine for emote

[lunar shore]

That is wonderful, Brilliant

[gentle kestrel]

Thanks 🙂

Glad it’s fun!

[gentle kestrel]

Patched leaderboard to not count messages TO the bot

Only seen on air

💬

[gentle kestrel]

Fixed up some things, of course broke some working late ⏰ new release.

I removed the logic for checking permissions it’s causing problems for some

tidied up some random issues

[drowsy rock]

I was thinking about that this morning. I checked the leaderboard and it was me and I'd only messaged the bot LOL

[gentle kestrel]

I knew someone else had chatted a lot and it’s how I got it. Saw the same thing

I’m going to (try) and only focus on fixes for a bit no enhancements

[drowsy rock]

You've been rolling out enhancements at a pace that's never even been heard of before. That sounds reasonable haha

As long as you aren't fixing something then suddenly think of an improvement, and go down that rabbit hole. That's my life typically.

[gentle kestrel]

Haha yes that has happened

I wanted to get a bunch of the basic ideas in before switching gears to this pygame stuff

I’m still not 100% sure how to go about the bots futures

The legacy onReceive or the new on_receive

We need a meshtastic developers conference

Some AI powerpoint we can ask AI to summarize the changes or futures with API

https://tenor.com/view/whitepeopledancing-dancing-windows95-win95-microsoft-gif-7658602

Do think copilot is tuned enough to modularize this a bit

Its current state it’s just ideas into prototype quickly

I wanted to learn how copilot worked

This is the fun project

So, next major is what and how to subscribe to proto.

Once that is ironed, I wanna make a new core with like ping and echo but it will be able to use localization files

And then convert modules to plugins

Possibly a 2.0

TBD

I’m a potato, this project is my primary job

[drowsy rock]

What are they changing with onReceive?

[heady raven]

I'm with @gentle kestrel on this journey.... I'll break it for you haha! With aloha from nurse dude 73

[gentle kestrel]

Thanks dude! (And to all) it’s stable thanks to your efforts!

[gentle kestrel]

I was too late and the continental breakfast was all gone. As were any conference goers. But I found a flyer on the ground that said

TLDR.

The old 'meshtastic.receive' event provides both the packet and the interface object, so you can access routing/interface info.
The new "mesh.rx.packet" event only provides the packet (no interface).

.

I interpreted this to mean, either one or the other

(I have yet to determine if there is a good path with)

    # Extract fields from protobuf
    from_id = packet.from_
    channel_number = packet.channel

I noticed scheduled 📅 alerts were not going and squirrel 🐿️

My problem is, if I can see multiple RF units, I need to route

Decoding flood is ✅

If I do and send it down the RF

I can detect channel and assume routes, but I am waiting to see what goes down

The TLDR didn’t include the 2.8 notes 🗒️

I heard from one of the lobby staff they all left in a rush so 🤷‍♂️

I don’t really wanna write a 1.5 core skip right to 2.0 if you will but

depends, if it works well in a lab

[drowsy rock]

2.8 happening soon you think? I'm super removed from that discussion

[gentle kestrel]

I’m gonna try a double sub idea

[gentle kestrel]

Echo got enhanced

Admins now have super power

Send anywhere @drowsy rock

echo Hello world c=1 d=2

[gentle kestrel]

Updated docs, can also now echo motd for string exchange

If other echos are interesting holla‘

[drowsy rock]

Hell yeah!

[gentle kestrel]

https://github.com/SpudGunMan/meshing-around/commit/47dd75bfb3943c055a41c54a74fa4d5f36bd4fc3

The bot will now ban any in the ban list

It will ban_hammer check violations

Such as “ping 999”

If you wanna test it

bannode now works

And the primary node ban list is a .txt which can be found in data/

You can synch via whatever

The old .ini will migrate you can remove then when they do

Helps keep the “tricks” down 🍬

[gentle kestrel]

Refactor to the highfly for better altitude detection and also added flight source country to output 🛫

[hardy lintel]

When you send the bot a ping, it responds with pong. What are the letters inside of the brackets? For example, I get "PONG [GW]" but I've noticed that other responses can contain other letters. Do those letters inside the brackets indicate anything?

[gentle kestrel]

• SNR: Signal-to-Noise Ratio (dB) — higher is better.
• RSSI: Received Signal Strength Indicator (dBm) — closer to 0 is stronger.
• [GW]: Message received via Gateway (internet/MQTT).
• [RF]: Message received via direct radio.
• [F]: Message received via mesh/flood route.

[drowsy rock]

Do you remember offhand how to check somebody out via admin? Driving so can only operate that briefly

[gentle kestrel]

approvecl <id> - Approve a pending check-in (admin)

Let me know how it works out in practice

Different command needed because it’s confusing etc

I haven’t touched it since it was working, the auto checkin was the last part

denycl <id> - Deny/remove a check-in (admin) it will hard dump any id

[drowsy rock]

Ok. Will try. Arrived home and UN checked in manually. Accidentally checked in wrong node before I left and was getting alerts. Had to go do what i thought was an update mission, turns out, node fell 100 feet from a tree and everything shattered.. It was actually still powered on and working but antennas wire disconnected upon impact. Reconnected and works fine. Just need to rebuild.

[gentle kestrel]

Ahhh!

.

All the sensitive API’s now throttle

There is no clear but to restart bot right now

Setting apiThrottleValue = (in) autoBanTimeframe

This is unrelated to any ban

Just blocks by default at 20/hour

Haven’t rolled to USA feeds only the more sensitive ones

🚦System busy, try again later.

Also its global

If user runs 15 Whereami and also tries 6 latest, they won’t get the last one

Cool down

If exceeded and autoban will pass ID

[lunar shore]

Um. something is weird.. did a git pull and went to add node to ignore( one of my favorite things to do) config totally missing most everything that was commented. settings out of order. wacky. and eas now coming through on wrong channels.. and it didn't ignore the high altitude node I just added.. what did I do?

[gentle kestrel]

A typo on config.ini and it went nuts?

Is config.ini a mess?

I did, update how EAS works by default but … it should have only added EAS to your emergency channel

I’m open to thoughts on how to better make this flexible to needs

Before it was not something which can 1:1 well in future versions

Check config_new.ini made by update.sh which shows a config prepped for latest options

You can see other .txt for more info

Reference .template for instructions

Some day I hope to have this better but I was learning meshtastic and and and so it’s kinda a evolution

That .ini file is large and messy

I haven’t had an idea of prettify yet

Been working on project X

I just worked out a bunch of junk of it and I was working in main so I’m crossing my fingers the issues you have are easy hihi

[lunar shore]

possibly, I had a space after comma in highflyingignorelist . oops. I haven't found any other typos. Before wxalertbroadcastch was controlling weather but now it seems to be eaalertbrodcastch . eveything seems to be working again. just caught me off guard.

project x?

[gentle kestrel]

Yes this tracks sorry for mess, I only documented it in the push with “oh hey sorry” hihi

[gentle kestrel]

❌

the graphic one

I have a game display server which I haven’t looked at for a bit but it’s running on a zero real nice I hope

I have the 0.9 display manager I think

I was gonna drop something this evening but I find lately if I feel tired my code is really shit

So trying to not code tired

[lunar shore]

Gotcha Neat! Yeah, I understand the tired bit. You've been doing tons of work. Sorry to have bugged ya without checking documentation or logs first.. We'll go with tired.

[gentle kestrel]

No worries at all

[gentle kestrel]

While on another thread had a trillion ideas for project X

Which just became project x,y,z

stay tuned for more

[gentle kestrel]

I need to look at this again

[gentle kestrel]

It’s a dev kit meaning I haven’t test outside of my lab

It uses UDP

So the node with the display needs to be a “pi clock” running script/game_server.py

(This is network config on you)

I have no idea how well this works - this is test idea 1

“It works for me”

https://github.com/SpudGunMan/meshing-around/blob/main/modules/games/README.md

Added some details to the game help

[gentle kestrel]

Minimum hardware (dev on) pi zero w

[stone lance]

How's this displaying?

[gentle kestrel]

The high level is, the bot is playing a game (like seen before just script running in text_message) but it will send the display data packet as a port.256 data (so the user isn’t bothered in mobile)

This packet is being sent to the same device as the player was seen on (using channel PSK) via the API. so far this is basic mesh api.

Over on a system with pygame and a display is running mUDP which is listening for packets and consuming the display driver info to process and run in pygame

[gentle kestrel]

launch.sh display will venv

[stone lance]

Ok, so pygame...

[gentle kestrel]

In theory it could be boiled down to an esp as well

I haven’t seen a lot of issues so I assume it’s working outside my dev box 📦

More ideas to follow as time allows

Had a derail this week so it may be a busy week not nerd 🤓

[crimson onyx]

Same here ... utterly smashed busy

[gentle kestrel]

Realized the data files are being overworked by git

Refactored news reading

FYI, git pull && bash update.sh

[gentle kestrel]

Fixed bee as well to properly buzz

https://github.com/SpudGunMan/meshing-around/commit/1122d6007e19b5cb818467994f26dc0ec4b09bdf

Make sure to git pull
Update to fix the data path
Or just a update 2x

[heady raven]

` git pull
Updating 38bef50..1122d60
error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge:

Please commit your changes or stash them before you merge.
error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by merge:

Please move or remove them before you merge.
Aborting
`

also tried -- a few other git pull --variables... I've been in this place before- hihi

ok fixed it -- i think haha

$ sudo git reset --hard origin/main HEAD is now at 1122d60 verse command wh6gxz@hawaiimeshmap:/opt/meshing-around $ git pull Already up to date.
the git pull -- vs sudo git -- to sudo or not to--
meshing-around is getting close to 2.0 WOW what a ride it's been - glad to be part of it. still messing with ai stuff and digging the leaderboard, readrss, wx, valert and... also ran update.sh - it's all good

[gentle kestrel]

Good to hear!

[drowsy rock]

Been busy as hell with this, among other things. Wanted linear rails, didn't want to spend $250. Instead I spent $60 and about 8 hours fine tuning it to actually move smoothly. 😑

Pi is responding via bbs but can't ssh into it. 🤔

[gentle kestrel]

The new Sysinfo will tell ya if IP to internet is hot

[drowsy rock]

I'll have to update it tomorrow if I can't get in soon. Walking to the attic will wake the wife. That's a big no go zone at 1:30am 😂

[gentle kestrel]

Haha, sorry I tried for an earlier release but I spent an extra hour testing!

This one has a surprise in it, it’s mostly for “early play testing and comments”

[drowsy rock]

I just got done setting up the printer so you still beat me

[gentle kestrel]

The video part isn’t working yet

Haha nice

Looking good

[drowsy rock]

I always have issues like this on Wi-Fi lately. Smart bulbs that randomly refuse to function when other times they're fine. Turning mobile data on and off doesn't help, switching between 2.4 and 5g Wi-Fi doesn't help. Force closing the app doesn't help. Then other times they just work. Still other times it'll be only one or two bulbs acting up.

I'm likely compromised in some way, just not sure where exactly. Even tried brand new bulbs

[gentle kestrel]

Heh; I use as much copper as I can

I’ll take inconvenience of a wire over frustration wireless

[drowsy rock]

I'm going to need to do that. Especially with cameras. I have nice PoE ones with color night vision that seem to be more reliable than my wireless ones in use currently

[gentle kestrel]

Totally or make different networks and plan out channels

But still one thing goes nuts and the xyl needs the toner replaced or something

Today I got a home IT call for SIP trunk issues - oooof

This world of iOT can really cause havoc with storms of traffic and such

Keep a WiFi for the junk and a WiFi for new new shit only

Most of the IOT stuff don’t need fancy WiFi anyway

Causes some of it to bork

Back in the day I was on zigbee all over the house loved it but when it failed /— FF pors s suuf galark

Fire fire

FUCK ITS 3 AM

Yanks pi off wall

[drowsy rock]

That's another thing i need to do, segregate networks. So so so much to do, all the time haha. I'm gonna go to bed and try not to wake her. 🤞🏻🤖👂🏻

[hardy lintel]

Thanks for the breakdown.

[hardy lintel]

Just found this in the documentation. Read the manual, I guess, huh?

[gentle kestrel]

Meh, thanks to you, asking it’s there!

[gentle kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/submarine-french-fries-stop-motion-gif-19133955

[drowsy rock]

checkin_triggers = {"checkin", "check in", "check-in"}
checkout_triggers = {"checkout", "check out", "check-out"}

if any(t in message_lower for t in checkin_triggers) and not reverse_in_out
or any(t in checkout_triggers for t in checkout_triggers) and reverse_in_out:

interval = 0
actual_comment = comment


trigger = next((t for t in checkin_triggers if t in message_lower), None)
if trigger is None:                     # not a check-in, skip to check-out
    pass
else:

    after_trigger = message_lower.split(trigger, 1)[1].strip()
    parts = after_trigger.split() if after_trigger else []

    if parts and parts[0].isdigit():
        interval = int(parts[0])
        actual_comment = " ".join(parts[1:]) if len(parts) > 1 else ""

    result = checkin(name, current_date, current_time, location, actual_comment)

    if interval > 0:
        set_checkin_interval(name, interval)
        result += f" (monitoring every {interval}min)"

    return result

elif any(t in message_lower for t in checkout_triggers) and not reverse_in_out
or any(t in checkin_triggers for t in checkin_triggers) and reverse_in_out:

all_flag = False
checkin_id = None
actual_comment = comment

trigger = next((t for t in checkout_triggers if t in message_lower), None)
if trigger is None:                     # safety net
    trigger = next((t for t in checkin_triggers if t in message_lower), None)

after_trigger = message_lower.split(trigger, 1)[1].strip()
checkout_args = after_trigger.split() if after_trigger else []

if checkout_args:
    first = checkout_args[0].lower()
    if first == "all":
        all_flag = True
        actual_comment = " ".join(checkout_args[1:]) if len(checkout_args) > 1 else ""
    elif first.isdigit():
        checkin_id = int(first)
        actual_comment = " ".join(checkout_args[1:]) if len(checkout_args) > 1 else ""
    else:
        actual_comment = " ".join(checkout_args)

return checkout(name, current_date, current_time, location,
                actual_comment, all=all_flag, checkin_id=checkin_id)

trying this

[gentle kestrel]

Did it work? I tested it once

Figured it was good didn’t hammer on it

This was pure copilot so

It’s logic in unique circumstances may not work

[drowsy rock]

it didn't work. everything stopped working alltogether. I had jsut done an update.sh so i should have checked first but did not. i did another update.sh, it warned about reverting to original code, but still nothing is working. no idea what it broke ha

[gentle kestrel]

If you don’t have any news or whatever update and say yes

[drowsy rock]

whats the uninstall switch again?

[gentle kestrel]

Install - - nope

No space

But it should survive an update

I keep a few I beat on and it’s normally very good at making sure runtime is clean

This is the way it looks without auto checkin

This is checked in

I hope the colors are ok?

I guessed they would work across all

If auto check TRUE none of this dance

[drowsy rock]

reinstalling presently

[gentle kestrel]

Sorry

[gentle kestrel]

Only checked in will beacon

[drowsy rock]

Is it possible to log in as meshbot and is that recommended? If so what's the password?

[gentle kestrel]

It’s passwordless

So by my config it’s not login-able

You would need at minimal a password for it

[drowsy rock]

Ok

[gentle kestrel]

I did confirm all checklist works as expected latest pull

[drowsy rock]

you had a permissions script didn't you? mine is read only which i discovered upon trying to save

i just did chmod +777 for config and that worked

None of that fixed it. It's just not responding to anything even with a fresh install.

Unrelated to the bot I'm sure. I'll work on that now LOL. Always something.

You know, I just connected that new HDMI switch....

I bet it's causing issues

Unplugged it and I was just able to SSH for the first time in days.

[gentle kestrel]

Was it spewing RF?

[drowsy rock]

Not sure. It was powering the pi even when the power is off, so that's not good. Bot still not doing anything. That can be a problem for another day now

[drowsy rock]

All right it took me about 5 seconds to figure it out after I got some sleep. It's not launching when the pi boots. Not sure why but I launched manually and it's working fine

Seems system startup is messed up in unrelated categories too. Wifi isn't starting until i enter the gui, which explains no ssh. Being able to ssh is because i was already in gui when i removed that switch. That switch powering the pi definitely wasn't good though.

[drowsy rock]

I wonder if my node or the bot means kilometers per hour. I only got to a Max of 109 but it says 153. I would have passed 95 on the way to 109 so that could be

[gentle kestrel]

Is this a femtofox?

[gentle kestrel]

I would guess the gps values are not perfect

groundSpeed'] * 1.60934

It’s what the value comes from

[drowsy rock]

Just a normal pi4

[gentle kestrel]

The gps value?

I’m translating the packet that way on the bot

The value of ground speed is I assumed kilo?

I thought once inspection on it was

[drowsy rock]

Oh I'm not sure. Gimme a sec

Position log.

altitude satsInView speed heading
552 8 5 275.36
674 8 6 279.12
440 8 4 295.43
574 6 0 347.95
461 6 10 197.41
461 6 67 352.3
469 6 86 14.17
470 6 70 5
486 7 109 19.18
476 7 0 229.11
485 7 63 198.14
482 6 76 180.16
471 6 59 183.43
468 7 0 214.31
465 7 0 220.9
489 8 0 220.9
468 9 0 303.67

Matches the 109 on my dash. Odd that the cars speedo is accurate ha. Normally they're optimistic a few percent.

[gentle kestrel]

Shit well thanks

[eager zephyr]

Hi - I have a feature request.
Would it be possible to have weather alerts either elaborate or provide a link that elaborates beyond the header?

[hardy lintel]

Is there an existing way to automate a message to a specific node using the custom_scheduler? I don’t want to blast a message to the whole channel. I’d like to DM one specific node using the custom_scheduler.

[gentle kestrel]

Yes, in the code examples today.

schedulerChannel, 0, schedulerInterface

If you set channel to zero
And put the node ID where that zero is. It will send via DM

I will try and add an example/comment to reflect that as well!

[gentle kestrel]

Good question: specifically these special alerts are the ones with this I will look into them!

[eager zephyr]

If nothing else, would be good to put effective time vs issued time, and the locations/counties it applies to.

[gentle kestrel]

Not all alerts hold this data and then space limit decisions.

The fema alerts are much more in line with always providing but EAS uses the codes to set boundaries (it seems) but it’s all local group dependent.

I feel like these special alerts are more just come read the web page notices

Its cold out and its the first time this year check on the elderly is what I have seen in the past

It’s bot “emergency” but it’s use of the alert for “special”

For all alerts it’s tough but I recall seeing http:// I think for special I kinda recall choosing to not because of formatting issues with clients

[eager zephyr]

In this case it’s definitely not-not a thing

https://weatherkit.apple.com/alertDetails/index.html?ids=62f6cab5-73a1-54d4-b6dd-a2893905eac7&lang=en-US&timezone=America/Los_Angeles&party=apple

[gentle kestrel]

But getting them myself I’m always like what’s this for

[gentle kestrel]

Well / it depends again why I mention all this

It’s an alert over the EAS not IPAWS

This alert in Oregon was for almost the whole west coast code

They also issued like 5 others

No links and here is why I have issues including the impact area

Clatsop County Coast; Tillamook County Coast; Central Coast of Oregon; North Oregon Coast Range Lowlands; Central Oregon Coast Range Lowlands; North Oregon Coast Range; Central Oregon Coast Range; Lower Columbia River; Tualatin Valley; West Hills and Chehalem Mountains; Inner Portland Metro; East Portland Metro; Outer Southeast Portland Metro; West Central Willamette Valley; East Central Willamette Valley; Benton County Lowlands; Linn County Lowlands; Lane County Lowlands; Clackamas County Cascade Foothills; Cascade Foothills of Marion and Linn Counties; Lane County Cascade Foothills; South Washington Coast; Willapa and Wahkiakum Lowlands; Willapa Hills; Cowlitz County Lowlands; North Clark County Lowlands; Inner Vancouver Metro; East Clark County Lowlands; South Washington Cascade Foothills

7 EAS packets later the mesh would be mushy

I really wanted the beacon wxa one packet

Wxalert adds more

@eager zephyr the command wxalert should give

<summary>A cool and unstable airmass over northwest Oregon and southwest Washington today will result in scattered showers and thunderstorms through Wednesday evening. Stronger showers and thunderstorms will have the potential to produce locally damaging wind gusts up to 60 mph and/or a funnel cloud or brief tornado. If you see a funnel cloud or a tornado, or if a Tornado Warning or a Severe Thunderstorm Warning is issued for your area, you should go to an interior room on the lowest floor of your residence. In addition, you should take actions to protect your head, such as getting under a sturdy table. If you are outdoors and cannot get to shelter, get in a ditch or culvert and cover your head. Never go under an overpass during high winds or a tornado.</summary>

This isn’t sent in the wxa for space and time issues

If emergency less packet

[eager zephyr]

Hmm. Maybe just something in the alert message then that says "do XYZ for more info"?

[gentle kestrel]

It’s a good question; the local EAS team decides things I think.

In a ipaws cap there is I think fields for this but an eas cap ..

https://api.weather.gov/alerts/active.atom?area=OR

Here is the EAS cap data

Look for “special” to find the one

You can see the data we have to work with

If <valueName>WMOidentifier</valueName> display?

<value>WWUS86 KPQR 051758</value>

[eager zephyr]

Looking now.
While I'm doing so, some ideas:
Just add "dm wxalert for more info" - but then you may have a bunch of people DMing at once which is even more traffic
"react for more info" - if anyone reacts to the message, broadcast the elaboration.

            <valueName>NWSheadline</valueName>
            <value>STRONGER SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TODAY WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND/OR A BRIEF TORNADO</value>
        </cap:parameter>```

Another possibility: Linking to the local forecast office's page? https://www.weather.gov/pqr/
Less ideal for "internet down" scenarios, but, something, maybe in addition to other stuff.

There's also this page

https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=PQR&wwa=all

[gentle kestrel]

I have a patch in should still alert if you update and patch

Special Weather Statement issued November 5 at 9:58AM PST by NWS Portland OR Headline: STRONGER SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TODAY WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND/OR A BRIEF TORNADO

I also just refactored after some testing to include

    # If title is "Special Weather Statement" and headline exists, use headline only
    if "Special Weather Statement" in title and nws_headline:
        main_alert = nws_headline
    else:
        main_alert = title

[eager zephyr]

Thank you!

[gentle kestrel]

Welcome thanks for the idea

[hardy lintel]

Very cool. Thanks.

[gentle kestrel]

A good note was put in for the way the service files handle shutdown and this change was implemented

ExecStop=
KillSignal=SIGINT

Edit service file and sudo systemctl daemon-reload

To ensure better close and save of stuff like leaderboard

https://github.com/SpudGunMan/meshing-around/issues/256

[gentle kestrel]

Added a yoloV5 tool for alert.txt

This stuff is so large I’m not inclined to add it in directly but here is an idea to play with it

https://github.com/SpudGunMan/meshing-around/commit/78c0ab6bb6eaf6a9844f0517a26af601dc0aa804

[drowsy rock]

A new beginning

[drowsy rock]

Omg I love it!

[drowsy rock]

Are there instructions how to add the bot to startup so every time the power goes out I don't have to manually restart it?

[gentle kestrel]

If you install and say move to /opt restart installer

Run again

Say mesh service

Yes to meshbot account

Should do it all for you

You can also do a embedded install I haven’t heard it fails it’s for femtofox

It won’t install ollama

Is really all but forces the rest for auto boot

The latest installer looks fresh

Should fix a bag of old issues

[drowsy rock]

Ok i did that. Should be good then.

[gentle kestrel]

I needed to get to a new cuda on my bot so installing fresh

I see the issues here

Fixing them

[drowsy rock]

Which issues? River flow not working again but maybe it's the site again.

Ohhh I have one. On the fresh install, leaderboard still showing planes in the top speed, doesnt seem to be it's own separate category from other nodes.

[gentle kestrel]

Install permissions I think corrected now

At least I fixed a lot of major issues

RiverFlow api is slow just the way it is

Increase timeout

[gentle kestrel]

What do you mean

[gentle kestrel]

Ok I’m not as embarrassed by the installer now sorry for all

That wasn’t fun times when things went bad

I hope update and install are better

I need to test on a pi now

[gentle kestrel]

I got rid of confusing logic now it just uses meshbot service account

Sets environment all over for ssl

Bootstraps better

I hope this is it for a long while here

[gentle kestrel]

This should work for pi2 cam and webcams now

You do need a GPU or Pi2cam

[drowsy rock]

I want to figure out a way to separate top speed of planes from ground vehicles for the leaderboard

[drowsy rock]

Oh that's clean! Just did it

[heady raven]

just ran the latest update-- on femtofox... failed in a few ways but -- it's all good - a few magic cmd's and whoola
i'll try the cmd's out -- got malama aina to do on this aloha friday.
the rpi update went FINE. @gentle kestrel YOU ROCK!

[gentle kestrel]

Thanks for info!! Anything I can make better?

[gentle kestrel]

Updated with Tesseract

OCR

Right now it will logic to say “if OCR save image”

it will pass the data to alert.txt

But this is where end use is open ended

License plate binding model or one for birds and wild life

I would like it to count animals

Right now it has “sense” to save any image with a plate in it better vs old 2014 method imo

[gentle kestrel]

This is intriguing, question is flights working ok for you (off season seams to have vastly lowered my high flyers) do you see flight numbers ok

I have a test for this but it’s all only in test so I’m making sure it works

I expect to see good flight info and source country in the notice

When applicable (which I hope is quality)

I could possibly ignore speed if high fly need to look

[drowsy rock]

I don't see info for all, but i see it a bunch. I'm on 2.7.6 so I lost all of my old messages

[gentle kestrel]

I just enhanced it to report more

I’m still pondering speed

[gentle kestrel]

Ok idea is in

It should track any over and under now

[drowsy rock]

Hell yeah! Thanks!

[gentle kestrel]

I made a bot prompted to be a pirate be the meshbot

I also made a model called ARRRRRL same idea but has knowledge for radio

[stone lance]

Pirate radio? 🏴‍☠️

[drowsy rock]

I just named a node "Kaaaaaarl" with a Llama emoji

[quartz maple]

Newb here. Is there a way to access the node with other software without killing the bot/bbs process? (It looks like remote admin works for basic config changes.)

[cold jungle]

What type of access are you looking for? I run several bots with one radio on a raspberry pi. Each bot has it's own instance of meshtasticd and they talk to the radio instance automatically with UDP.

[quartz maple]

Just basic stuff, like python CLI or web client

[cold jungle]

Hmm, I hadn't thought of enabling remote admin on the bot instances...

[cold jungle]

Nope, only one client connection per node. Meshin around uses the connection.

[quartz maple]

Ok, thanks, I guess it's not a huge problem. Is there a simple way to kill the service without looking up pid, etc?

[cold jungle]

sudo systemctl stop mesh_bot

[gentle kestrel]

New enhancements in the API may bring about UDP mode

Having constant derailments due to irl this way

“Can’t focus on the bot” wahhh

[gentle kestrel]

You can use #1421172939751166062

[quartz maple]

Thanks. I saw firefly mentioned in the docs, but haven't researched exactly what it does yet

[gentle kestrel]

Gives you access into the node sort of like a console

So you can chat back, it can get wild so; at the moment a dedicated bot node and a node for chatting is best

In a minimal sense it would realistically be a roof, a bot and a personal node

The roof could be a bot

[eager zephyr]

Question - is the system doing something non standard with the way it sends DMs?
We’ve noticed intermittent odd things like “no channel” errors, and the bot somehow responding in a different DM thread than it was originally messages from.

Not to like, a different person

But like, in the app, it shows separately?

[gentle kestrel]

If UDP is around, the default 0 is used today in the interface of the API

So any traffic heard on UDP will default to 0

Hope to have a fix after latest changes in API to detect channels better

You are experiencing flood route I think

You do need to keep good key management - so if the bots public key changes

That will avalanche the DM key issues and thusly no channel like situations

[gentle kestrel]

Is it only one function? Or UDP related possibly

[eager zephyr]

The errors I mentioned are on the client's end, not the software's.
In theory there's no reason the public key would be changing that I'm aware of.
The issue is specifically with DMs, and usually once the bot DMs you (for example if you ping in the public channel and it DMs you a response) you can reply to it in there fine.

It's weird. Sorry I don't have more detailed info because it's intermittent.

[gentle kestrel]

DM’s do flood now

Like globally

So if the bot is sending out a DM in 2.7.13

Attached via API (ignoring UDP for now)

The DM will flood into a mesh

I have heard they will travel over any flood possible

[gentle kestrel]

Some patches in for high fly, built a better test for it so hard to test well (find airplane fake node)

Also some other base patches needed for later

I have a code on lab branch (git checkout lab) for testing with UDP specifically there is a debug log for channel name

DEBUG | System: Packet Received on Interface 1 Channel: 2 Name: LongFast

it’s printing any found channel

It should print flood packets

Interested to hear feedback before moving further

[mortal shale]

Something weird going on with ping hop count

I'm definitely hitting it direct, and it responds way too fast for 5 hops to have happened

Also not sure what [F] means here

[gentle kestrel]

Flood

You have broadcast flood

Try the lab branch

See what you think

It’s debug log notice only right now

[gentle kestrel]

Also needs api 2.7.4 as will the bot when pressed

[cold jungle]

Perhaps one thread is Legacy Channel PSK while the other is PKI? I've noticed what you mentioned but haven't explored it.

[cold jungle]

This makes sense now: I noticed decoded BBS DM's on MQTT.

[quartz maple]

It turns out I was wrong. Remote Admin looks like it works. It lets me access and change the settings on my meshbot node, but apparently the changes don't really get saved.

[mortal shale]

"broadcast flood"?

[gentle kestrel]

You need to stop the API/bot one node user at a time

[gentle kestrel]

Yea if you have multiple UDP enabled you will find it quick

There might be a 1 hop RF issue looking at like it’s UDP one hop but still gives F and SNR not 1 hop

My lab is offline for a bit

[quartz maple]

Agreed. that's what I found out by experimentation. But, I had tried remote admin to the node while the node was still connected to meshbot. It showed (on the android app) that my configuration changes took. But, they didn't really.

Now, I'm disconnecting my bot node, updating it's config directly, and then reconnecting to meshbot. Works as expected.

[gentle kestrel]

Lab branch has updated debug logs on for UDP stuff

Also if you try and remote admin the bot it should have alerted 🚨admin packet

[quartz maple]

Can you use scheduler to schedule more than one action? multiple scheduler sections? or do I need to use custom + scheduler.py?

[gentle kestrel]

Custom, custom is just faster and more efficient @quartz maple

I just have to parse every idea needed otherwise and I hope good instruction in the .py

Like legos

[quartz maple]

Sure, makes sense. The docs indicate that multiple events are possible, but weren't clear (to me) if you had to do custom for that.

[gentle kestrel]

Docs always lagging! Sorry

.

I updated the core and lab branch

Put a PR onto API/CLI waiting for decision

UDP channel stuff

[gentle kestrel]

Here is an example of my latest

2025-11-11 17:09:47,555 | DEBUG | System: Received Packet on Channel:254 (banter) on Interface:3, but this channel is configured on Interface:1 2025-11-11 17:09:47,555 | DEBUG | System: Received Packet on Channel:254 on Interface:3

The idea here is to help identify flood

Lab branch will print these logs

But needs a patch in API still to work with default channels

[gentle kestrel]

New in lab more data, coming soon

[gentle kestrel]

Now in main ./update

Storm holding, dark side for me now. G4 with posible G5 on the 12th

[mental helm]

would it be possible to add fire danger reporting? i see its varies wildly per state so i understand it could be very difficult to impliment, but it would be a neat feature i feel.

[gentle kestrel]

I assume FEMA and EAS alerts would hold them (seen in the past) do you have a API with Lat,Long? You know of for alerts? @mental helm

[mental helm]

I assume that'll only give red flag warnings, I'm talking more "fire danger" like this

Ie if fire danger is high or above then have it push an alert out in the morning

[gentle kestrel]

Yea the fema ipaws should alert when bad?

I get them in WA

Heat, smoke and fire

[mental helm]

I moreso want it so I can make sure to bring my pager along on days where I might be dispatched to a fire (im a rural volunteer ff)

[gentle kestrel]

You can pocsag to alert.txt

Get a .py to alert on tone out

[mental helm]

Nono, I don't have a pocsag pager, two tone straight from my county fire dispatch

[gentle kestrel]

https://pypi.org/project/icad-tone-detection/

I will dig into my local FD pagers 📟 I think they also tone out if so I will try and get a etc/ decoder for alert.txt see if it’s valuable

[mental helm]

With an rtl?

On my meshing around host, I use trunk-recorder with some rtlsdrs to grab recordings for openmhz, maybe linking into something like that would be handy

[gentle kestrel]

I have been out of scanning hobby for a while so don’t use all the new software. I was last in when UPman was around.

The idea I have for grabbing tones would just listen to audio feed

Would then dump the alert to .txt and it would go over mesh

The barrier being primarily is every agency and departments codes could be unique I have never personally sampled the size of this pool of data but the point is to not allow cross talk so

The icad tool comes with some examples so will start there

It will be a boilerplate for people to customize not built in

In theory it would take any audio sample web stream local or output from a rtl

[mental helm]

icad_tone_detection? I think it's commonly used with trunk recorder so yeah. Would he Handy for sure but it's probably going to be my backup for my backup for my main source of fire pages.

[gentle kestrel]

Trunk recorder will dump directly to MQTT @mental helm

So if you see it there now, you can broker it into mesh now

Mesh-Bot works 1:1 with a node on MQTT

So just configure MQTT on your bot node and bam you added whatever

Or make a mesh-bot-Linux-native-simulator and point it at another whatever in MQTT

If you just want data sharing and the MQTT is fully handled in your mesh it may be the best path

I haven’t touched the code yet but reading it I expect I can take the traffic in from audio

Process with icad tool and have a end user ready to go code

Things like what message to trap and what to send is likely gonna be end user choices

I will goof in a bit and if it flows will have a product quickly

[mental helm]

i dont think trunk-recorder decodes tones though, so the only thing trunk recorders MQTT does is pass along if a frequency is in use or not

and other call metrics like amount of transmissions, time of last transmission

[gentle kestrel]

There is a proof of concept for this idea in lab etc now

I didn’t have a streamer to check they all lock away

If you have one

Also be interested to hear improvement ideas

[mental helm]

Ill try to find time to poke at it here before the end of the weekend, I have to wait for something to come in for my department over my sdr. We're really rural so apart from Monday pager tests, I don't get much activity.

[gentle kestrel]

Haha I’m also waiting for a page lotta chatter so I know I got the locals

[gentle kestrel]

I was pondering this, and all Uniden scanners will alert ‼️on a tone out as well

You could set that up and use RF monitor as well to alert on rigctl

Or VOX alert

[gentle kestrel]

I have new ping logic in place for new 2.7.4 proto which now looks to better handle UDP as well

Not in main yet but if you would like to test for better ping and hop logic in lab

[gentle kestrel]

Did anyone notice issues with ping and hops?

[gentle kestrel]

I did, updated stuff

The newest API and firmware should be used fyi

[gentle kestrel]

New data in ping

It’s too cold for me to demo it in my production so

Imagine it’s cool 😎

Should give you the relay or last hop

Search the id in your mobile to find its name if known

[drowsy rock]

I've been tied up on another project for a solid week, but look forward to messing with this some more

[heady raven]

Aloha Friday-- interesting output... N

Nov 14 16:11:31 hawaiimeshmap bash[1984]: 2025-11-14 16:11:31,469 | WARNING | System: API version error update API pip3 install --upgrade meshtastic[cli]``

Did that-- and yet it' persists-- hmm - the bot works... 73

[gentle kestrel]

Did you make sure to do it in the context in which the bot runs?

The error will pop on boot when trying to get channel info using new function calls

It won’t cause a problem for operations just can’t use that function

[heady raven]

here's a good one-- LOL -- I get that output from the femtofox as well it's 1969 brah BTW I run the latest Meshtastic 🥥

[heady raven]

yeah I tried that- the error persists- will continue to play.

[gentle kestrel]

What version is shown?

[heady raven]

Meshtastic 2.7.14.x daily--

[gentle kestrel]

Update the API

try:
                ch_hash_table_raw = node.get_channels_with_hash()
                #print(f"System: Device{i} Channel Hash Table: {ch_hash_table_raw}")
            except Exception:
                logger.warning(f"System: API ver

[heady raven]

I update the meshtastic cli-

[gentle kestrel]

The work for this is on pause waiting for one more API patch, I didn’t think enough ahead.

[heady raven]

where does that script go?

[gentle kestrel]

It’s the lines of code which give the error for update

That is the method which the new versions support to grab cached channel hashes so I can route UDP well

once I have a good handle on UDP I will keep working on some game ideas

[heady raven]

COOL stuff BRAH
I'm getting to know this stuff and playing with Rapheal kit, sensors etc.
-- time to cook dinner hihi -- going to play with this later.
I play with UDP! wh6eps has been working on a interactive chess game on meshtastic.

[quartz maple]

Are there config settings for the fruit machine?

[gentle kestrel]

not really should there be?

It can be disabled with the word of the day game which also runs with it

wordOfTheDay = False

[quartz maple]

It's fine. I just don't want it sending anything out on the public channel that I'm not aware of.

[gentle kestrel]

Its intention was to drive on air activity like .. get channel chat content, leaderboard stats and all

[quartz maple]

All fine and good. For now, I'm taking a more low-profile approach - just announcing the bot daily on the public channel and encouraging folks to give it a try

[hardy lintel]

I was trying to use the custom_scheduler to automate using the send_sysinfo() command but only have it come to my node. I set it up like this:

    schedule.every().day.at("00:05").do(lambda: send_sysinfo(0, 1234567890, 1))

where 1234567890 is my node ID. Then I get this error:

Nov 17 00:05:19 bbs bash[832]: 2025-11-17 00:05:19,530 | ERROR | System: Scheduler loop exception: setup_custom_schedules.<locals>.send_sysinfo() takes 2 positional arguments but 3 were given

Am I using it wrong? I thought if we set the channel to 0 then we could use a node ID in the middle argument to send a DM to an individual node. Where am I going wrong?

[gentle kestrel]

There is a function on the file locally calling the function in the bot, to keep it more flexible.

So you need to edit the custom files function or use send directly

send_message(sysinfo('', 0, interface, False), channel, 0, interface)

Vs using

def send_sysinfo(channel, interface):

The two positional on send_sysinfo, is passed to send_message

[hardy lintel]

Oh, okay, thanks for explaining that.

[somber condor]

@gentle kestrel , I seem to remember that you limited the number of days of weather forcast when we scheduled a "wx" command using the custom scheduler. Right now, I am only getting the forcast for a single day as opposed to 3 days. If I run DM the wx command to the Meshing-around bot, I am getting the full 3 days forcast. is this configurable or is it baked into the code?

(for the scheduled event)?

[gentle kestrel]

The basic event is 1 day to keep clutter down but custom you can

Change that days value to what you want

[somber condor]

Thank you sir…

[gentle kestrel]

Unusual time and placement

And then…. Hear NOAA is pressing news today

They are saying these alerts will soon come to and end if we don’t get money

Interesting they are sending alerts to get attention

Imo they learn extortion from up the chain ⛓️‍💥

Anyone else notice or have wild results back from all data points lately

like the government reopening things got worse

Cloudflair asks, are you LLM?

[drowsy rock]

My River flow module is still not working yet the one a town over is working fine. I didn't do anything to mine. Odd

[gentle kestrel]

Yea I monitor two rivers and one sometimes is out

outside of some elaborate caching scheme I’m not sure what I can do, and if the networks are dismantled

Look at the recent mess with mt Rainer

The sensors went nuts for the X time this year

And this time it’s “fake news” blaming the public for misrepresenting the data

Meanwhile the data is claimed to be false for ice

Ooof

Gaslit by your own government

Who is also trying to ban LNG delivery to homes who claim it’s cold

https://tenor.com/view/snow-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-hypothermia-gif-2050521346495683023

[drowsy rock]

Why are they trying to ban it?

[gentle kestrel]

to keep energy prices low

Equity means we all stay warm

[drowsy rock]

My cousin lived in Rainier. She had LNG but there was a leak right under the house nobody knew about. It caught on fire in the middle of the night and burned her to death and obviously burned her house down. I wondered if it was related to that. Happened a few years ago..

[gentle kestrel]

Yikes, sorry for the loss.

And here I am worried about radon

I heard Australians have so much energy they get it free for a second

I don’t see how that energy issue is different vs LNG

The closest thing I got is the leaderboard

Tell ya the hottest temps

[drowsy rock]

Are you also near Rainier? We randomly have radon here in PA, but every home I've lived in is too drafty to ever detect it.

[gentle kestrel]

I am near enough to see it daily

Im able to see baker clearly

I can also tell you imo earthquakes and solar are related

Once in HRCC I was laughed at for this opinion

I mention it because I think I observe things well

This data is interesting, anytime Rainer makes press this same area seem hot

So .. is the sun causing reading failures or real data

I enjoy a good joke but not when I detect a lie

Anyone see the volume of lava this week

Interesting ..

[gentle kestrel]

Haven’t heard a lot of hiccups lately pressed a release

Anyone try two player battle ship?

[drowsy rock]

Haven't tried any games, but i did a -nope and then pull and reinstall and riverflow is working again with the old config data. I must have broken something else when I was trying to add all variants of "check in, check-in, checkin" etc.

Also went to gemma3:1b and it's still working surprisingly well on my rpi4 4gb

[drowsy rock]

The airplane vs ground vehicle speed leaderboard is perfect

[gentle kestrel]

Awesome! I have caught a few lately myself and been excited to see them. There is a shocking amount of Lora in the air traffic, and not on defaults which is, double shocking. I can only imagine how well it must work up there haha

[drowsy rock]

Meshtastic or just other lorA?

[gentle kestrel]

Meshtastic

[drowsy rock]

Oh wow. What settings are you seeing?

[gentle kestrel]

AQ on different channels and seeing regular nodes up high going fast sometimes very fast. It’s hard to say it’s not a code cheater but… I am in arguably a hot spot for experimental aircraft and radio

[drowsy rock]

How do you find this traffic and can you read the messages?

[gentle kestrel]

Accidental mostly. don’t know if they know it’s going out I did don’t think about others choosing random channels

Like it’s a let’s go to 73 or the group is on 12. The density is becoming such it’s more likely you find random nodes

But then one day on a lab channel I was like wtf

And looked into it and was like woah fun

It appeared to be a student and I assume they may have had a node on them from my snoopin tail and such

If you are in the sky for hours it’s a slick way to chat with the ground

As cell phones can be an issue

[heady raven]

happy happy 🦃 check this out for output...
first one is femtox with new beta 2.7.15, second 2.7.16.nuZ with latest meshing-around 🤔 is this chUnking setting?

[gentle kestrel]

Happy 🦃🍗🍗

I see a bad date but not sure what issue is? @heady raven

[heady raven]

DEBUG | System: Bot detected Commands:[{'cmd': 'cmd', 'index': 0}] From: wh6gxz meshtoad isDM:False playing:False DEBUG | System: Message length 285 exceeds maxBuffer200, forcing chunking. DEBUG | System: Splitting #chunks: 2, Total length: 283 INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 Chunker1/2 SendingChannel: Bot CMD?:ping, askai, bbshelp, bbslist, checkin, checkout, dx, ealert, games, hfco> INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 Chunker2/2 SendingChannel: CMD?, mwx, readnews, readrss, riverflow, rlist, satpass, sitrep, solar, sun, sysin> lines 10512-10538/10538 (END)

chunker 2/2 output shows in the logs but not in the browser

[heady raven]

yeah that date linger only in the browser- not the apps.

[gentle kestrel]

Ahh like a packet didn’t make it?

The 2 second delay coming in?

Or is UDP canceling something

When it happens to me it’s that like 90% of the time and lost packet the other

Have had very good rate of success on latest code, I use a tdek for my most rigid client

[heady raven]

turning off udp broadcast didn't work 🤔 I have a number of meshtastic nodes on udp. it's been working for the most part -- been playing with that udup tool hihi the latest meshtasticd alpha the browser is buggy - crashing @ times

[gentle kestrel]

might bump up these values if lower

`responseDelay = 2.2

delay in seconds for splits in messages to avoid message collision /throttling

splitDelay = 2.5`

[heady raven]

oh yeah that worked... splitdelay was 0.0

[royal bobcat]

any reason you use docker compose the specific containers instead of docker compose up -d?
https://github.com/SpudGunMan/meshing-around/blob/main/script/docker/README.md

other than to exclude the test and debug containers

[gentle kestrel]

Keeping it open for people to use?

I dev in raspberry so don’t use docker much these days

Not knowing what people want to run I just didn’t have a better idea yet

[royal bobcat]

gotcha. the up -d will create the networks and run every container in the compose file. was just wondering if there was some nuance, but it seems like its more of a personal style/workflow choice. thanks!

[stone lance]

Ok, but hypothetically if one wanted to buy you a coffee, or a jug of gravy or whatever it is that potatoes drink, how would one do that?

[gentle kestrel]

I think people like you @candid quarry @sand crater have given a lot to this community. By way of giving your self’s. (Let alone countless others)

[mental helm]

i have a configuration question. since im running this on a linux laptop with a Seeed Xiao NRF52 meshkit plugged in via USB, is there any way i could use it through the network with my meshtastic app/webclient?

[gentle kestrel]

Yea just use TCP to connect to the node vs serial. The API client eats up the pipe however and having another web client isn’t gonna fly well. Using the #1421172939751166062 as a local console of sorts. Would be the best way to dual use the node.

Another avenue is to use UDP by segmenting the API applications into venv:meshD instances

MQTT being another but it’s kinda like UDP

[mental helm]

i didnt think UDP was available on NRF nodes

[gentle kestrel]

Oh dang yes some can’t, if it can MQTT it might be all it’s got.

I have some rough drafts to meld a firefly like idea but it will also likely be a “2.0” rewrite type thing.

[mental helm]

yeah some web-ui thing to interact with the node would be really handy in the future. maybe having all the options configurable in the UI too. would be neat to just plug the node into my unraid server, run something on docker and pass the USB through to it or something

[gentle kestrel]

You can do that, just using the same same node for chatting is also complicated, more nodes!! 😉

[exotic ledge]

It works decently, but you can use Mesh-monitor's "Virtual Node Server" to pipe Meshing-around through

https://meshmonitor.org/configuration/virtual-node.html

I ran it that way for a while.

[mental helm]

i hope you dont mind me vibe coding but im working on adding MCP support (just because ive been wanting to play around with it since i got it working) along with a full web-ui that lets me monitor the node and data.

i am but a dumb cranberry farmer who took C# in highschool 15+ years ago on a whim and bounced so hard off it that i had to cheat my way through to a passing grade

heres a WIP of the webui.

MCP is basically for me to hook into home-assistant so i can ask my voice assistant if its seen anything new on the mesh network

[gentle kestrel]

Fun, there is a bit of a web dashboard currently in the etc/ folder

[mental helm]

yeah i saw that but i wasnt sure how to actually use it.

heres my repo if you want to poke at it and check it out, im not too sure i should try to submit a pull request as i only have a 7 day trial for cursor

https://github.com/Dadud/meshing-around/

the AI added to the config.ini to enable or disable everything i've added too, and updated the documentation for my features

[gentle kestrel]

It was also a vibe in by a contributor mostly a dashboard, ideally moving to a more interactive format but combining with more focused projects like prior chat had was kinda “better”

on the road today and sort of on a holiday fiesta but will for sure check it out!

[mental helm]

no rush. If you think you can manage it after my trial is up just lemme know and i'll submit a PR. might try to poke around at it some more and add some other ideas i had in the meantime

btw cursor is, fucking amazing. i literally know the bare minimum when it comes to coding and i managed to do this by just talking to it. I know vibe coding gets a bad rap but its a game changer for people like me with tons of ideas and no way to do anything about it except for bug people who know how

[mental helm]

like, i added in a map just by asking it to add a tab for mapping nodes. it'll even show trails for traveling nodes.

then i straight up asked it "what is it missing" and it listed off 10 things to add, so i told it to do it and bingo

[gentle kestrel]

Nice! Indeed I enjoy use of it as well

[mental helm]

its vibe coded so expect issues, im rapidly adding stuff too right now, like i just had an idea for haveing a button to update the bot from the web-ui

[mental helm]

well, it worked great until it didnt

i'll have to start from scratch i think

[gentle kestrel]

See if you can hack a tab into the existing html

[drowsy rock]

I haven't had the time yet, but I was going to change the high altitude report to use the nodeid or long name instead of the node number. Realized you can't search or filter by node number in the android app, so it's hard to quickly see which node it's alerting for.

[gentle kestrel]

It will do best effort, like dns to reverse but if a node is flying high they likely don’t have time to get a full node info down to you

If all you get is a position packet for example it’s all you got

Put in a request for search and filter by node id and hex id I find it crazy handy on iPhone ping for example will only give the byte and you can search that (I am not reversing the relay currently)

Also the bot can Whois a full ID

[drowsy rock]

Didn't even think of the whois and the reasons that the number could be beneficial. Nice

[mental helm]

I got my webui working again if you want to poke at it and tell me if it's super broken somewhere not obvious

[mental helm]

so while i was indulging on intoxicating hemp last night, i had an idea to blow my project up and restart, by taking your project and the official meshtastic webui project and having AI try to combine them into an unofficial webui with plugin support.

cause i just wasnt happy with how the AI designed the webui before

would be something you run in docker and either connect to a node via IP or USB

[mental helm]

and about an hour of time later you can see what i've come up with in #web-client, unfortantly i'll have to have the AI port modules from python to typescript but it doesnt seem to be having any problem

[eager zephyr]

Hey, I'm having trouble with DMing meshbot from a device running newer firmware - logs are showing that the replies are being rejected as "legacy DMs"

Dec 18 15:42:04 luckfox meshtasticd[1325]: WARN  | 23:42:03 419 [Router] Rejecting legacy DM
Dec 18 15:42:04 luckfox meshtasticd[1325]: WARN  | 23:42:03 419 [Router] Rejecting legacy DM
Dec 18 15:42:07 luckfox meshtasticd[1325]: WARN  | 23:42:05 421 [Router] Rejecting legacy DM
Dec 18 15:42:07 luckfox meshtasticd[1325]: WARN  | 23:42:05 421 [Router] Rejecting legacy DM```

[gentle kestrel]

Meshtastic firmware issue, the DM keys are a mess try deleting node db all over.

[eager zephyr]

lol

[heady raven]

aloha mesh people and happy happy -- anyone have any ideas why i'm getting these alerts all of the sudden?
no changes to the .ini file. Thoughts?

I get this outpu every so many min's...

AI's answer
This alert typically issued by the national meteorological service, such as the Deutscher Wetterdienst (DWD) in Germany, to inform the public about a significant weather hazard. The term "severe frost" usually indicates that very low temperatures, potentially falling below a certain threshold

[heady raven]

yeah it's ealert that decided to speak german hihi-- i disabled the broadcast for now--

[heady raven]

hey happy happy spud! so it's here i need to modify that output? i've gone into the .ini file to make changes to no avail

[gentle kestrel]

The code will only process the NINA-Germany alerts if the entry is =True in the .ini

If false it “can’t” process that code

Same goes for any other uses

[heady raven]

Been turning this on and off-
the .ini file
ignoreeasenable = False ignoreeaswords = test wxalertbroadcastch = 1 enableextralocationwx = True ealertbroadcastenabled = True ealertbroadcastch = 1 ignorefemaenable = True ignorefemawords = test,exercise mysame = 015001,015003 volcanoalertbroadcastenabled = True volcanoalertbroadcastch = 1 ignoreusgsenable = False ignoreusgswords = test enabledealerts = True

[gentle kestrel]

Very last line is enable DE

[heady raven]

valert show nothing now odd- love to play with meshing-around

[gentle kestrel]

I last tested all .gov API about a week ago they were ok, I think you had another eruption? 🌋 I saw lava spewing in the last few hours (also talk of a late hit of cosmic blasting last night!)

I don’t expect issues but given the holiday and such.

[heady raven]

Yeah it was working this am- pele has been busy- fixed the NINA-Germany alerts. Mahalo BRO!

[gentle kestrel]

Might check the Valert in a while, I will lab up a Hawaii bot when I can. But like most things NOAA Hawaii, I’m leaning on saying this is a federal holiday till “Monday” and possibly just Hawaiian time hihi

[heady raven]

I usally get some output... played with the .ini file a bit today

[gentle kestrel]

No alerts means for sure it had none / double check the debug if it didn’t say parsing error it’s the upstream data

[heady raven]

Dec 25 13:20:20 wh6gxz-fox python3[1032]: 2025-12-25 13:20:20,119 | DEBUG | System: Bot detected Commands:[{'cmd': 'valert', 'index': 0}]> Dec 25 13:20:21 wh6gxz-fox python3[1032]: 2025-12-25 13:20:21,516 | DEBUG | Location:Error fetching volcano data from USGS Dec 25 13:20:21 wh6gxz-fox python3[1032]: 2025-12-25 13:20:21,520 | INFO | Device:1 Channel:1 SendingChannel: No alerts found. Dec 25 13:20:22 wh6gxz-fox python3[1032]: 2025-12-25 13:20:22,336 | DEBUG | Location:Error fetching volcano data from USGS

Oh yeah...

like totaly dude hihi

[gentle kestrel]

Yea just checked same here anymore it could be to keep the data 📉

I saw some radar data for no fly zones in the last 24 look like fires once seen your way

Spicy time for lava flowing

In a “two day shutdown”

[heady raven]

yeah roger dat bro! the last few eruptions sound like a jet plan taking off from my qth- a friend heard pele at his hale 15mi down the mountain the fountains have been spectacular. The park gets crazy busy and people plan for the the ongoing intervals to catch the flow- good times. i hope u enjoy and geek out on this day

[gentle kestrel]

Woah that’s cool! 73

[heady raven]

VALERT is back -- MAHALO USGS? spud u da man...
seems to be outputing about q15min... it's on a private channel. going to just let roll...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk0tfYDxrUA

[heady raven]

valert works awesome -- lately if been outputing about q15-- any way to adjust that? 73

[gentle kestrel]

Q15?

[heady raven]

sorry nurse talk every 15min... hihi

[gentle kestrel]

Roger. I just wrote it in blind. Git pull will grab it.

A undocumented [location] key defaults to alertDuration=20 if you add this to your location ini section. You can set a value >10 and it will check the API on that number xx:20 xx:40 xx:00 for example.

So alertDuration=15 on the 15,30,45,00

[heady raven]

mahalo BRO!

[gentle kestrel]

Not sure if a new year new code didn’t look deep but I saw NOAA WX alerts fail for index error. For an alert locally.

Got a patch in to handle it.

[gentle kestrel]

The warning was for king tides, the chandler wobble, or the two moons? Either way the second is now stuck in cesium

[weary ibex]

shidd fard coom
https://shidfardcoom.com/

[gentle kestrel]

I wondered what that was and used it here to find I can’t remove it so ..

[drowsy rock]

I've read this 5 times... What?

[gentle kestrel]

The tides locally are causing havoc in alerts daily my way - the alerts had no location data they just return on lat,long

Had never seen NOAA alerts without a “area” in my feed before and didn’t account for it in code. Confounding tides.

[drowsy rock]

Ohhh ok

[heady raven]

@gentle kestrel I have a tool that I've been developing with a few ai dudes smarter than me -- i want to have some kind-a plug-in installer or something add value to it. as well i would be truly honered if you gave it a try -- i'm looking to invest some time into this -- it's called meshforg -- anyone reading this I need TESTERS! hihi with aloha https://github.com/Nursedude/meshforge

[gentle kestrel]

@heady raven I will check it out! Kinda took(on) a holiday hiamoe iki of sorts

[heady raven]

awesome bro- take it slow -- ;=)

[heady raven]

Hey spud do you mind if I try and integrate some stuff of yours into meshforge 👀

[gentle kestrel]

I got nothing special just some api calls

All the ideas I put forth are to be used however in learning meshtastic and enjoying the hobby and advancement of enjoyment, don’t break laws

Some of the ideas I had hoped make it into a concept of wider use, Python is so wonderful for prototyping

I still got more, just busy fall enjoying a season off, just got billed for a new year of copilot costs went up, I also saw major updates after feedback so I’m excited to jump in again when it feels groovy

[heady raven]

I really love working and playing with meshing- around 🤙 can’t wait to see what you come up with next?

[drowsy rock]

What do the "78" and "B9" mean?

[stone lance]

The last byte of the rebroadcasting node.

[gentle kestrel]

Search it in your mobile to guess its likely node

I will get a patch to a few items and PR in soon just got pulled away on NOAA related matters

I didn’t want to reveal the local bot DB name in the ping so it’s just the byte no lookup

[drowsy rock]

Ohh ok.

[deep igloo]

I seem to be running into a problem with my fresh install on my Femtofox. The bot operates fine all day long, then overnight the CPU gets taxed trying to run etc/report_generator5.py which seems to go in a endless loop with a new 4 digit PID each time.

[gentle kestrel]

Stop the service for now to save wasted time, you could also try deleting all logs it might have a bad one? It’s a very basic logic run

[deep igloo]

Thanks. I'll give that a try.

Here is the output from running journalctl on that offending PID. Does it indicate something I've done incorrectly?

Jan 13 06:32:37 F0X0 python3[1364]: Checking log file: /opt/meshing-around/logs/meshbot.log
Jan 13 06:32:38 F0X0 python3[1364]: Consumed 54 lines from /opt/meshing-around/logs/meshbot.log
Jan 13 06:32:38 F0X0 python3[1364]: Node1: N/A N/A N/A
Jan 13 06:32:38 F0X0 python3[1364]: Node2: N/A N/A N/A
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Warning issue reading database file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/meshing-around/data/lemonstand_hs.pkl'
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Warning issue reading database file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/meshing-around/data/blackjack_hs.pkl'
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Warning issue reading database file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/meshing-around/data/videopoker_hs.pkl'
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Warning issue reading database file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/meshing-around/data/mmind_hs.pkl'
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Warning issue reading database file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/meshing-around/data/golfsim_hs.pkl'
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Warning issue reading database file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/meshing-around/data/qrz.db'
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: MeshBot (BBS) Web Dashboard Report Generator
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Main dashboard: file:///opt/meshing-around/etc/www/index.html
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Existing index.html backed up to /opt/meshing-around/etc/www/index_backup_2026-01-13.html
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: Main dashboard written to /opt/meshing-around/etc/www/index.html
Jan 13 06:32:42 F0X0 python3[1364]: HTML reports generated for 2026-01-13 in /opt/meshing-around/etc/www

[gentle kestrel]

It’s messy logs but all looks ok @deep igloo

Says reports generated all the lack of high score is just boring

Should cut it to save log space actually

[deep igloo]

I know right... No high scores because I used a cheap 12yo MicroSD card... which failed me. Hence the fresh install.

[gentle kestrel]

Dude tell me about it if you run the update.sh it will .tar.gz them for ya I lost some killer scores and instantly added that haha

[deep igloo]

Knowledge for the future... Thanks. My nearly $700k dopewars score (poof, gone)

[gentle kestrel]

https://www.pishop.us/product/raspberry-pi-ai-hat-2/

[heady raven]

I love this guy - always some cool insights - he visits meshtastic land -

https://youtu.be/jRQaur0LdLE?si=B8U0LBKeuO4d-fJ7

[gray igloo]

we love jeff

hes here too

[heady raven]

hey spud i was thinking of having a meshing-around stand alone app- all your stuff in a say TUI - GTK work flow - the app would pull updates from your repo -- all files configurable etc throught the app - no need for a meshtastic web browser... kinda standalone app for meshing-around - check out meshforge repo on dev- stuff

[gentle kestrel]

yea, tinker away.

I was tinkering with a firefly shell and possibly pygame in web but it’s a large bite so haven’t pulled the trigger yet on that path.

Mostly just more games is all I got on my short list for the moment

[heady raven]

Ok, cool - I'll work on something using the knowledge gained from meshforge -- I'll let you know whats up - your input is important to me. I'm just nursedude making stuff I want to play with. 🤙

the tui i went for after breaking a few env was the raspi-config look it's been pretty stable - it's the launcher.py its the front door say for all th ui variables

[gentle kestrel]

Roger Roger, yea one thing to note is the current image for femtofox is in concrete so my ability to move a bunch is limited there (why it has a femtofox auto config)

I basically saw it work here and heard from user community it was working and just haven’t touched it .. everyone has a personal run method I feel

[stone lance]

App frontend for the games would be good.

Run them over the mesh, play them like they're meant to be played

[gentle kestrel]

Yea, so far just have the tic-tac-toe out there for a light demo

I don’t have those spec5 developer hours

One firmware item that I hit a wall on was the delay of 2seconds for new packets

I’m debating a patch / to allow another game idea

Tbd, fire has irons flying all over atm

[somber mural]

I have configured meshing-around on a FemtoFox. The MT side is sending/receiving messages. However, when a node direct messages cmd, the FemtoFox doesn’t reply. Same for other commands: whoami, etc.

Any ideas on what I haven’t configured correctly?

[gentle kestrel]

Do you see the message on the logs? Will ping anywhere pong?

Validate it’s not a DM key issue, I really liked when firmware favorited the dm it handled the memory but may have overloaded something to crash not sure.

It’s a tricky game if it’s a BUSY mesh or if people are goofin

[somber mural]

I do not see the DMs in the /meshing-around/logs/
Ping will not pong. I have it set to respond to DM only.
The FemtoFox can exchange DM with my other devices using the Meshtastic client

It feels like Meshing is not getting the handoff from meshtasticd but I don’t know where the settings are that link them.

[gentle kestrel]

It won’t boot without a link and by default will connect to localhost. Do you have other stuff connected? It is exclusive access to the hardware

[somber mural]

I confirmed that nothing else within the stock FemtoFox UI is conflicting.

[gentle kestrel]

Check if system logs show running?

It was very cookie cutter on the 1.0

But if you have two things running it might be a problem

Validate its /opt/meshing-around/logs as well

If you see it running and no DM something is funky with meshtastic /femto image

[gentle kestrel]

There is a permissions script in opt/meshing-around/etc you can try and reset

Was this a new build?

[somber mural]

This is the as-shipped FemtoFox. I’ve updated MT using the FemtoFox UI several times this year. This was my first time enabling Meshing.

CHMOD 755 did not help, but CHMOD 777 on config.ini allowed everything to start. It’s sending messages now.
Thanks for your quick responses! Looking forward to running this through its paces.

[somber mural]

The documentation on GitHub is really good. I know how much effort that is. Just wanted to say thanks.

[heady raven]

spud got the awesome sh*&T env. I've had Claude code MAX analyse the meshing-around domain -- sweet
i struggle with other issues re: meshtastic, rns, and other integration stuff

[deep igloo]

@gentle kestrel I had to run that script after a fresh install on my Femtofox

[drowsy rock]

What's the best way to clear the leaderboard?

[gentle kestrel]

leaderboard reset i think

I did just put on a community patch for better save on all files

The will help with specifically docker images or the likes

There is another PR on deck for maps but I may wanna add to it slacking still for winter

[craggy rampart]

I cant seem to get this to work

[gentle kestrel]

Remove - (min/interval)
From value weather line

That should do it?

[thorny plover]

@gentle kestrel thanks for making this project- quick question is there a way to check/poll for weather alerts more often? Which part of the configuration files should I look for it?

[somber mural]

I am trying to make Meshing Around stop sending High Altitude Alert!
I added highFlyingAlert = False to the config.ini and restarted the mesh_bot service. That did not stop the alerts.
Any suggestions?

[drowsy rock]

Set it to a fake channel maybe? I set my high altitude and weather alerts to their own channel, then have a scheduled message every evening with the channel information for anybody that wants the alerts.

[gentle kestrel]

That would work I will take a look into it further when I can

[gentle kestrel]

#1255754522303922217 message

See that

Its undocumented I should document it

[heady raven]

https://github.com/Nursedude/meshing_around_meshforge

not tested yet -- please test! this is spuds stuff wrapped in a tui and web interface -- also supposed to run without an antenna - standalone - i'm going to test it first on a pi2w behind a arden router - blah blah --

[gentle kestrel]

I will check it out asap still goofin

Stay warm over there @heady raven

[heady raven]

WOW!

https://github.com/Nursedude/meshing_around_meshforge
I've been doing some work on this - have a pi2w for a headless no rf implementation - warning it's not stable - my focus on stability is currently with meshforge - map dev is in alpha - trying not to break main hihi - check out the rf and psk stuff.. the tool uses your repo to stay up to date -- i have an updater in the raspi-style launcher tool - supposed to run it's own web-client - a big ask hihi

[gentle kestrel]

I will check it out is this the same as the prior project just more refined?

I gotta relocate my work stuff entirely so it will be a month or two still, construction etc I don’t have a desk to work on really took the winter off basically. So my lab and all devkit is basically offline till at minimal a desk and flooring show up hihi

[heady raven]

Not going anywhere having fun with meshforge now it has maps. 🤙👀

[drowsy rock]

Here's a weird one. I've set to a separate channel for planes and weather alerts. It worked perfectly, then randomly today the planes started coming on LongFast again. No idea why. I haven't logged into the pi since i made that change a week and a half ago. Not mad, more amused

[broken fossil]

@gentle kestrel Aloha Spud i have an idea or challange for you. recently i have been using PulsePoint cool app https://web.pulsepoint.org/ is there a way for your bot to capture this data and send out just the active alerts. it would be a really cool project

[drowsy rock]

That's a cool idea!

[somber mural]

That High Altitude Detected alert is baffling. I can’t seem to find a way to stop it.

[gentle kestrel]

What’s the logs say it did

[gentle kestrel]

Highflying ini value?

[drowsy rock]

Haven't logged into it. Been preoccupied with complexities of life

[gentle kestrel]

It would be my first question of did it burp? It’s kinda set on rails and all

[hardy lintel]

Is there a way to have the bot monitor a channel for specific strings and then send a DM to that node with a phrase? I already have it set to only respond to "ping" and "test" through DMs but I'd like to configure it so that if it hears "ping" or "test" on our Main channel it will DM something like "Please move all testing to channel TEST." But if they're already sending "ping" or "test" on channel TEST, then it responds with the pong DM response. Is that doable in some way already or is it too much?

[gentle kestrel]

It’s possible but it’s a public mesh

The QRZ hello feature might be good to welcome people and direct to a website for the use

If the bot is responding to ping and test with not useful data what’s the point and all

Wasted airtime to say go over here hope you get this message

Can also send scheduled beacons to say “welcome to mesh see web”

[hardy lintel]

Thanks

[lunar shore]

Howdy! What all does dataPersistence save and how much space does it need?

[gentle kestrel]

It saves the high scores and leaderboard uses very little

Disable for any concerns about write media

It was added for extra protection from crash and for virtual hosts

[gentle kestrel]

Got some bugs squished

[gentle kestrel]

A new PR for enhanced mapping also in

‘map help’

[drowsy rock]

What's enhanced mapping going to involve?

[gentle kestrel]

It went above the CSV output and added a DB for more advanced “how far from the position” you can save and recall positions of public and private nature.

It’s just a git pull away

[lunar fog]

is anyone else getting a "No Data for your Region" response when folks are sending the "rlist" command?

[gentle kestrel]

It was the other day but also fixed it you on latest?

I did notice cloudflair is being extra stingy with get

Confirmed working in my lab but I did visit the page to say human like a week ago

Visit this from the subnet behind the firewall https://www.repeaterbook.com/repeaters

[lunar fog]

Thanks, I will pull down the latest build...

[lunar fog]

Bingo...that worked.. Thanks @gentle kestrel

[gentle kestrel]

This is cool, sorry for late response been ooo kinda.

I don’t see a API link today but will keep an eye on this!

[drowsy rock]

Accessed on my phone on WiFi, clicked I'm a human, still getting that error on the bbs though

[gentle kestrel]

Did you update to latest?
git pull

[broken fossil]

Aloha Spud it is a nice system sadly it was operational for 6 years paid for from our local hospital however the contract ended so we lost access it’s a paid service so I’m not seeing an API either I believe broadcast is working on something similar with the CALLS system and “Incident Source & Project Radiant Glow — AI-Powered Incident Intelligence” so will see thanks for looking into it

[cold jungle]

@gentle kestrel I'm getting close to having a drop-in UDP virtual node framework. No need for all that firmware nonsense cluttering up our bots. Very untested aside from broadcast/DM functionality.
https://github.com/pdxlocations/vnode

[gentle kestrel]

I been seen I lot of movement your way 🙂

[gentle kestrel]

I will need to test it more - I got node info but haven’t got autoresponder example working yet - I do have a fork out there 😉

[cold jungle]

May need to wait for the db to populate if dm.

I have an ai bot using it on our mesh.

Haven’t really tested anything outside of that

[gentle kestrel]

I booted it in software only just stopping the meshD on my lab - saw a node info but no text yet will investigate more in a bit.

I’m running latest alpha

[cold jungle]

Might have spilled the beans too soon. I haven’t pip installed it on anything

[gentle kestrel]

Listener seemed to be fine but auto responder didn’t blip I haven’t looked at code there yet

[cold jungle]

cloned on a fresh pi, ran auto-responder, didn't work. hit exchange nodeinfo on the real node, now it works.

gotta let the meshdb populate i think.

[gentle kestrel]

I went for a walk I noticed it ran on a cycle

[gentle kestrel]

Yea same, I see nodeinfo but no text / listen works fine / autoresponder isn’t dooin much

[cold jungle]

hrm.

[gentle kestrel]

Yea - I used up all my energy loading it up I will poke more in a while - my first guess is PKI but not sure yet. Setup is 3 nodes(Ubuntu’s) in a subnet made sure meshD was stopped if I enable legacy methods it’s all flowing ok

[cold jungle]

meshd shouldn't have anything to do with it. In my case, i need my linux meshd/radio running to route the UDP to lora. I've only tested with a t1000e sending messages to nebra node with vnode running on my mac (and recently a pi) all on same network.

[gentle kestrel]

Adds to the noise levels, could just be the soft lab, I will look more into it // meshD worked fully in UDP same setup

[cold jungle]

might be something in my deduplication logic, been meaning to dive into that. My UDP stream is pretty busy with all the meshd bots.

[gentle kestrel]

Same the dupe is my biggest hang up overall

Lost packets? No just a dupe

[gentle kestrel]

I just found it’s a DM responder only

The issue now being keys are not moving (same issue seen with OEM)

[cold jungle]

I’ve seen 4 hops within my lab. Maybe check yours.

[gentle kestrel]

It’s like it’s being duped out I saw this same issue on build up of a new lab

Same thing @stone lance had to reboot nodes or - force a full send 2x to DM

@cold jungle works now after all keys are around

Tossed a log note on the fork

[gentle kestrel]

If you run femtofox a image builder for meshbot is forked here

https://github.com/SpudGunMan/mPWRD-OS-dev-kit

if there is need I can look into building resources for image download // pricing changes this month so not sure if I can build for free

[lapis topaz]

Pricing ?

[gentle kestrel]

GitHub Hosting for runtime and storage it was free for open source but I saw a memo about 0.2 cents per 500mb

For the moment it’s DIY no nice download on my fork

[lapis topaz]

AH! Github..

[gentle kestrel]

I also fixed that link to the proper fork 🍴

[rare tulip]

the "rangetest" is greyed out ... yesterday i got i running for a moment ... but i didn't get it on aggain ...

[gentle kestrel]

Range test in the firmware is one way but it can be hard to manage in real life situations.

If you got a pi or docker or something that can easily run Python projects give this a try

Plug a node into it and boop

You can say “ping” or “test” on air and it will respond with data

It will help visualize what you can accomplish

No theory just raw data and meshing about

The map ? has like a range finder 2.0

[rare tulip]

Yes sounds really nice, but i don't have the time for more "installation" i just would like to get the rangetest running when i am going to work and make some ways around over the day without doing anything. As i understand it will save a csv which i could easily import on a map

no for no reason i could "activate" it on the mobile version, but i ant deactivate it aggain in the menu ... i hate stuff like this

[gentle kestrel]

Run it again? I’m quite sure it’s not globally down

I fixed a minor issue today in fact so it’s there

Fixed an issue if you run multiple versions of Python same box

[drowsy rock]

Will try

[gentle kestrel]

Mixing sudo and not

You can sudo git pull

Or sudo update

[rare tulip]

Looks like i have a range of about 80m .... maybe the Antennas are broke, or the pigtail is broken ? ....

ANd now it won't let me turn of the rangetest ....