US - Connecticut.

[tardy steeple]

I think I logged in properly to Gary’s server thingy

[toxic shard]

is SL55 the node you're connected to in your iOS app?

I guess not since it's got a signal report

If you're actually hearing the node it won't show MQTT

At least that's my understanding

I am NOT the person to talk to about MQTT

[tardy steeple]

No that’s home . I’m mobile

[tardy steeple]

https://seasonedcitizenprepper.com/preparedness-downloads/

[tardy steeple]

@fierce moss

Is that url correct ?

Or should it be just

ctpublicbroker.greatacresfarm.com:1883

[fierce moss]

Uhh. Let me look

Did your old one die?

[tardy steeple]

Yes

Usb c port was snapped off the tdeck

I have access to a solder rework station today I’m going to see what I can do.

[fierce moss]

No http in that

Http specifically means hyper text transfer protocol (web)

[tardy steeple]

Sent pm

Mqtt won’t go thru on my end .

I’ll double check the settings after I get home from NY

[fierce moss]

i think port is 1720

[tardy steeple]

Sorry . Thank you

[void cape]

Alright, at 48 hours here’s the measurement

That’s 785.65mWh per hour

2828.34 joules per hour

305 hours?

12.7 days at 20AH for 12V

[tardy steeple]

Is that good or bad?

[toxic shard]

It's better than I expected

[tardy steeple]

Attempting now .

Yeah, I’m not sure if you’re seeing it on your end or not but everything seems to be fine and configured properly over here

[tardy steeple]

Maybe because I was logged in in a t-beam supreme with the same username and pw it’s rejecting it now that I’m on a Rak board .

[steady solar]

Oh well this is neat, where did you pick up this tester (and would you recommend it)?

[void cape]

It seems to work. It’s pretty basic. Got it on Amazon for like $20 or so

https://a.co/d/5IdyZIC

A lot of people complain about it not working. This is because they did not read the instructions and connected the USB-C cable backwards

It is possible to connect them backwards because both data lines have to be on the same side of the connector otherwise the data lines aren’t connected. This only happens with USB-C female to female extensions.

[tardy steeple]

Like this isn’t sketch haha

The McDonalds employees looking at me all
funny 😄

[tardy steeple]

https://cedalo.com/blog/mqtt-topics-and-mqtt-wildcards-explained/

[tardy steeple]

https://downloads.rakwireless.com/3D_File/WisBlock/WisMesh_B1_Full_Device_Assembly.step

[void cape]

okay - so the permanent install of the satellite dish is nearing; I've got everything set up and the PoE is working.. but no signal.

[tardy steeple]

Nice

[void cape]

I suspect that I've either messed something up, or there's a tree in the way of the location

[tardy steeple]

Remove tree prob solved 🙂

[void cape]

The Pi seems happy .. I've got a 48V PoE splitter that outputs 12V, that's hooked into a 30W USB PD into the Pi, and there's also a T-beam in there for ha's.

I'll have to take a photo of the absolute disaster inside of the case.

Tomorrow, I'll probably move the dish closer to the other side of the solar panels I've mounted it to so that it's less in the tree that it might be in

[steel steppe]

If you are interested in catching a mobile node on the move I will be traveling a little later today from Holland, MA to Mystic, CT today (and back). I will be running RPN - Rob Pocket Node with an external antenna on the vehicle's roof during the trip down.

[void cape]

Coverage in that area for APRS is always difficult, I'd imagine mesh coverage is even worse if you don't have a LOS to Hartford.

It'll be interesting to find out, regardless

[void cape]

hahaha I wish

moving the antenna mostly fixed the issue but I think the wind is occasionally resulting in the tree interrupting the path.

It doesn't seem to interrupt it enough right now to justify moving the antenna but I'm going to have to see in the spring if leaf coverage is going to cause problems for it.

[steel steppe]

Maybe it will light up someone's node in that area that hasn't seen much activity. 🤞

We had zero mesh coverage in my area. We are trying to build the infrastructure so it won't be a black hole. I need to put up something on APRS, too.

[steady solar]

hey @fierce moss - not sure if it's just a personal preference or even configurable at all, is it possible to change celsius to fahrenheit on meshsense?

also not sure if i'm looking at this right, but the date and time is off somewhere here

[tardy steeple]

Maybe a store and forward packet was delayed ?

[steady solar]

the 1/2 7pm keeps showing up so i dont think thats it

[tardy steeple]

Ahhh

[steady solar]

it's actually confusing, because sometimes the time and date is correct when off mqtt, but on mqtt is always the wrong date

[tardy steeple]

I’ve noticed dates off on mqtt and I just assumed that’s because the server is located in another area and is feeding the time and date from that location

[fierce moss]

hrmm. dunno.

[steel steppe]

Just a follow up, no nodes seen the whole ride down and back nor any nodes after 4 hours stationary in Mystic.

[toxic shard]

Not surprised. No nodes along that route report to Liam's MeshMap.app, and only two on MeshMap.net.

[steel steppe]

There are two in Woodstock that I have seen before that aren't on the map. I had to sit at the winery for an hour or two before they sent out a broadcast. 🙂

[tardy steeple]

I have a device in new london

Should be online

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jkAS1bWqqeHKf4XJ9?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy

[toxic shard]

True, many wouldn't be on the map, but being on the map is a reasonable sign of activity, as there's a tendency for the more active folks to want to see their nodes on there

[toxic shard]

Does it have "Ok to MQTT" enabled?

[void cape]

We never see nodes over there when planes fly over. I highly doubt there’s anything there

[toxic shard]

That has a pretty small line of sight, unless you've got it up higher than I'm expecting

[void cape]

strap it to the bridge on I-95

seriously, that bridge is taller than pretty much everything except for the Groton lighthouse

[tardy steeple]

That I’m not sure of . I doubt it as I fully didn’t understand that feature when it was placed

[void cape]

I bet with a solar panel, metal box mounted to the light pole with a numeric 6 digit label in orange reflective lettering, small antenna, it'd never go anywhere lol.

[tardy steeple]

It’s in a small case mounted on the AC unit

[void cape]

It's better than no coverage I guess.

[tardy steeple]

Wrong address my fault

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dkDdDhyyFfCnCk317?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy

[void cape]

those railroad tracks are not very high above the elevation

[tardy steeple]

Tempting

[toxic shard]

Better but still pretty local. Really need to get something on the hills across the river to the northwest to get anywhere. Raymond Hill would be a good start Here's the LoS for that new address:

versus this which is what Raymond Hill can see

Still kind of a hill topper, but such a node could start bridging a lot of places down there.

[toxic shard]

If we got Raymond Hill and this spot, I think it might bridge to Chippanee, maybe.

[void cape]

Oh!

I have photos of the satellite box disaster

[toxic shard]

Just northwest of Nelson's https://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=X33ICBGI

Anyone got a camper there? 😉

[void cape]

The box is very hastily assembled.

[toxic shard]

So the solar isn't for the box?

[void cape]

Nope

[toxic shard]

trickster

[void cape]

Not yet at least

It’s going to power the network frame at some point which is where this gets power from.

[toxic shard]

gotcha, very cool

Has anyone seen the Nag1, Nag2, or Nag3 nodes? Those are a friend in western Southington that I'm trying to get meshed in

He's still building, so not mounted outdoors yet. I saw them a few hours ago at home but didn't get a trace through.

[void cape]

I show nags2 and 3 from yesterday at 3am

3 hops from here so probably low hop count to something I talk to

[toxic shard]

I had him up the hop count for testing, but i haven't seen it since. I'll need to follow up and check his config

[void cape]

Satellite imagery for your viewing pleasure. Please don't break my raspberry pi. http://satellite.ctha.ja4.org/

It's connected over gigglebit to my router but I only have 500mb/s upload so shrug

the pi is using an SSD for the data and I'll probably have to start culling data over a month old at some point.

This is probably the image most people are interested in. Sometimes the dish fails to record the header of the image and so it fails to download entirely. This'll be fixed when the dish isn't blocked by that tree in the way. http://satellite.ctha.ja4.org/IMAGES/GOES-16/Full Disk/2025-02-22_01-00-20/abi_rgb_ABI_False_Color.png

I left it accessible via http in case anyone wants to request imagery over winlink or some other ham mode.

[void cape]

lol somehow it broke overnight

Typical.

Huh. Undervoltaged and so the SSD and the RTLSDR both turned off.

I'm starting to think I may want to install a battery out there to help it run properly.

Hmm. Even though it's like 20 outside, the Pi's processor is at 110 F inside that little box lol

I wonder what it looks like on the thermal camera.

[toxic shard]

https://hackaday.com/2025/02/20/diy-yagi-antenna-sends-lora-signals-farther/

[void cape]

That's pretty neat

[toxic shard]

What’s a good external Bluetooth antenna? Asking for my Nag friend.

Omnidirectional in this case.

[tardy steeple]

Never mind that was wifi

[void cape]

Bluetooth and 2.4GHz (N) WiFi are the same frequency. The antennas are interchangeable

[tardy steeple]

Ooo

8dBi WiFi Antenna RP-SMA Male Wireless Network 2.4GHz 5.8GHz Dual Band with U.FL/IPEX to RP-SMA Female Pigtail Cable for Mini PCIe Card Wireless Routers, PC Desktop, Repeater, FPV UAV Drone, PS4-2PCS
https://a.co/d/7Vxxzlp

@fierce moss Guy down here says he sees a signal on my device and it doesn’t say mqtt.

Looks fine on my end . I have no idea 🤷‍♂️

[fierce moss]

Sees what signal?

Looks like he’s just local to you

So you wouldn’t be tagged mqtt to him

[toxic shard]

Nodes with old firmware in the middle of the path can cause mqtt to be misreported. @jolly ruin is working on a patch for iOS to not show the signal stuff when it’s clear there are hops but they’re not reported properly

[tardy steeple]

I see .

[toxic shard]

Unrelated point: I got “Encrypted Send Failed” tonight and I think it’s because the node in question had fallen out of my nodeDB with all the nodes I’d seen while traveling, and my node hadn’t seen it yet when I returned. So the app knew about it but the node didn’t so it couldn’t do the encryption. Just a hunch.

[toxic shard]

Notice the hop counts with question marks, that’s his patch. Those would have shown signal bars in the currently shipping app.

[tardy steeple]

Have a good day

[toxic shard]

https://tenor.com/nidDNhAg9oN.gif

[radiant sequoia]

looks like 2.6 is coming on Wednesday.... anyone have any ideas on features or adds to this revision?

[toxic shard]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGbrbqrODzP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

themeshtastic

Likes

197

Instagram

[tardy steeple]

Ya they posted it in Reddit too.

That 2.6 in the middle and different sized then the rest is making my eye tick

[toxic shard]

I think DM routing is the big one. I don't have much info.

I think there are also changes to how configs are stored, might help some nRF52 issues

We'll see. I'm not one who follows the dev stuff too closely.

[toxic shard]

New record for time travel

that one of your's @nimble vale ?

[nimble vale]

Yes

[toxic shard]

Got a Grays Sports Almanac to share?

j/k my other node here didn't see the weird time. Who knows why that happens 😄

[final loom]

Anyone have any nodes around the old saybrook area? Just got into this and trying to figure out what exists around me. Haven't seen any other nodes down here.

[radiant sequoia]

not much that way sound of meriden/wallingford

towards milford and bridgeport there are a few

[final loom]

i been scrolling up in this chat and there seems to be some around new london/groton as well

probably gonna figure out how to do some cheap solar nodes i can put in various places.

[nimble vale]

🤣

[steady solar]

These people in planes who spam long fast piss me off irrationally lol

[fierce moss]

They can spam it all they like… JUST OUT YOUR DAMN CLIENT ON MUTE

lol

[hidden timber]

G2 up and running in Vernon :)

[hidden timber]

how funny, just made contact with someone putting a node up on box mountain minutes later

looks like some of the msgs are making it back to you @fierce moss

[tardy steeple]

Is that why my device is literally going nuts 😆

[hidden timber]

haha yep

for some reason my side of the conversation isn't making it to you or GAF

[tardy steeple]

Just shut my buzzer off

[tardy steeple]

Are your messages tagged ok mqtt?

[hidden timber]

should be

confirmed, yep

may just be one hop too far

[tardy steeple]

Lora
Config
mqtt

[hidden timber]

i didn't enable up/downlink for the channel as to not get/send everything from the public MQTT server

[tardy steeple]

Meshtastic does Meshtastic things

[hidden timber]

haha

[fierce moss]

Yea, no need to actually use mqtt at all unless you want to push map data.

[hidden timber]

that's all i'm doing with it haha

[tardy steeple]

Running mesh core as well down here

https://youtu.be/O9_12PQC-wk?si=soM08LlOOzh4Q5fX

[hidden timber]

there's the man of the hour, hey @desert imp

[desert imp]

Come to the PVRA meeting at 6pm at Marcus communications in Manchester on Thursday if you want to talk about mesh in CT. We've got a node going up on box mountain

Lol

[hidden timber]

it's funny, i had just mentioned the idea a couple of weeks ago

[desert imp]

Seems like it's a great spot. I'm connecting to nodes all the way
to new Hampshire

[steady solar]

I was starting to receive from the new lad but then stopped rxing

i feel that pain so many times i get one sided conversations 😩

[tardy steeple]

https://meshtastic.org/docs/software/python/cli/installation/?install-python-cli=macos

[pliant wyvern]

I have a MQTT question on how to set the channels config for MQTT - the meshtastic site shows how to enter the settings, but there is no "save" at the top of the page, only a "submit" but the settings to enable mqtt there are not saved. What am I doing wrong?

PS - I am using the web client to do the config

[tardy steeple]

Top right should look like disk

[pliant wyvern]

this is the page

no disk

[tardy steeple]

The icon that’s a box with an arrow pointing down

[pliant wyvern]

click the down arrow gives me this

[tardy steeple]

I believe after you click submit and you go back to like the main screen there’s gonna be a disk on the top right

[pliant wyvern]

i refreshed the web page and submit finally gave me a confirmation

[toxic shard]

no channel save is the submit at the bottom

Channels save without rebooting

[toxic shard]

Cool stuff. I seldom go to that side of the river on a weeknight, but let us know how it goes. We've got a lot of good progress happening down this way. Though I do worry about too many nodes over too wide an area until more intelligent routing is a thing. Having recently visited SoCal, we've got a lot of room to grow, but still makes me think about how big is too big to work.

[pliant wyvern]

which mqtt server is recommended? there is the "offical" meshtastic one, and the Meshtastic Map
Created by Liam Cottle

[toxic shard]

We use Liam's typically

Some places in other parts use their own. I noticed Seattle has their own map with way more nodes in their region than any of the others

[tardy steeple]

I was always told after submitted to always save it just to make sure

[toxic shard]

FYI all, Turkey Hill in berlin is flaking out. Discussing it with K1HFZ. He's going to take a look. My hunch is a bad solder joint like happened to my similar node.

[toxic shard]

Not a bad joint, it's kapput from water ingress. We'll replace it ASAP.

[radiant sequoia]

Back up in the AM....

[fervent sky]

F

[tardy steeple]

What housing / setup

[toxic shard]

Atlavox S4

It is entirely possible the failure of weatherproofing is from our work after receiving the device. I don't want to attribute this to Atlavox.

[tardy steeple]

Message Matt about that

[email protected]

Oooo ooo 👍

[toxic shard]

I've conversed with Matt many times via email. He's responsive but I opened and modified the product, so this is my problem. He's not selling S4s anymore.

[hidden timber]

i'm now publishing to both 😁

accomplished publishing to 2+ mqtt servers from a single node with MQTT bridging, if anyone wants the configs i can pass them along

if you guys are running Mosquitto for your shared MQTT server, you could very easily bridge just the map data to both maps for all your nodes with a few lines added to the config file

[tardy steeple]

Defeats the purpose of mesh networking and relies on traditional internet .

I strictly only have my mqtt node going to connect gaps

[hidden timber]

oh same, this was just focused on adding nodes to meshmap.net & meshtastic.liamcottle.net

figure the more nodes on those maps, the more likely newcomers may find interest in trying it out

[tardy steeple]

Im logged into @fierce moss Server . Not exactly sure what he publishes too.

[fierce moss]

Anything that hits here goes to Liam’s

[hidden timber]

ah gotcha, so you've already got a bridge set up in mosquitto?

[fierce moss]

Yes.

I think to official too. I need to look.

[hidden timber]

you could also publish to meshmap.net simultaneously if you aren't already yeah haha

[fierce moss]

I restrict it to just map data

[hidden timber]

yea i just did the same with my setup

[fierce moss]

I HAD stopped it as I’m not a fan of official’s stance on not providing proper accurate gps locations.

But i may have added it back

I need to look

[hidden timber]

oh boy, hadn't heard about that

[hidden timber]

on the contrary, came across this reddit comment in figuring my mosquitto stuff out.

Stick with the official server and your node will appear on meshmap.net, which mind you was the original mesh map. The developer of the .app, which does not care about working with the developers and decided to not only use the community's data to make a point to them, but also decided to steal the name "mesh map" to pull more people away. The only thing you need to change is set an imprecise location, as only precise locations are filtered from the official server. Set the closest to precise and you're good to go. People will still get the general idea of where the node is at.

[tardy steeple]

Interesting

@hidden timber

So if I wanna run mosquito and my own server or whatever it’s called, I would have to have my computer running 24 seven to do that or no ?

[hidden timber]

yes sir, though it would run just fine on something as small as a raspberry pi even. i set mine up in docker, but that's not required either.

[tardy steeple]

Yeah, I have to look into it a little bit more. The comms channel told me to use docker . I have no idea what docker is. I do have two raspberries pies that I got with some hats. I didn’t end up building anything so I might look into that a little bit further.

[hidden timber]

docker's absolutely awesome, would be happy to help you with it. once you figure it out, it makes setting things up and moving them around a breeze.

[tardy steeple]

Ya got two pies and two MeshAdv Pi Hat v1.1 and never did anything .

Is this correct ?

[steady solar]

you dont need a subscription

[steady solar]

https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/

[hidden timber]

Here’s a good guide https://github.com/sukesh-ak/setup-mosquitto-with-docker

[toxic shard]

is this a question?

[tardy steeple]

It’s posted in the wrong discord . It says motolola

[toxic shard]

Ahhhh

[toxic shard]

Usually I just type my password into the wrong window, that's how I roll with mistakes. 😭

Seeing how the MeshSense traces change without Turkey Hill reminds me how fortunate we (people who care about covering Berlin) are to have that spot. Fingers crossed the new node works, should find out tomorrow.

[tardy steeple]

Type it here 😆

[toxic shard]

hunter2

[tardy steeple]

My password used to be Bologna1 until that movie the hangover came out and that was mr chows password lol

[toxic shard]

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hunter2

[tardy steeple]

I I opened the mesh sense the other day and my note was doing stuff in the background like trace roots and stuff. I didn’t even understand what was going on because I wasn’t touching it. Kind of interesting.

[toxic shard]

That's a feature of MeshSense, it slowly discovers pathing on the mesh. You can turn that off if you want. It does it very slowly over time.

That's pretty much the "sense" part of it

Note those three on the right without paths. Those were through turkey hill. And there were a bunch of other things going through there.

If we ever lose Chippanee I might have a breakdown

[tardy steeple]

Ya I was playing around with
Meshsense

And the site planner as well

[toxic shard]

I can't use MeshSense on mac most of the time. There's a bug in the bluetooth library dependency that makes it crash early and often. Hopefully N3FJP can sort it out

Eric pulling slight of hand on us

[tardy steeple]

Mine works on my Mac . However it’s on an older OSX

[fervent sky]

yeah wrong screenshot lol

[toxic shard]

🙂

It's ok, this is a safe space for posting incorrect content today

[fervent sky]

Silver Lake G2

[toxic shard]

That's a lot less than your other screenshot

[fervent sky]

This was AT&T Long Lines sites

different rabbit hole

[tardy steeple]

Made a rogue node and stick it to back of TV at work lol

[toxic shard]

Name it Remora

[tardy steeple]

I’ve visited a few of these at t long line sites

[toxic shard]

Was this better when Turkey Hill was up?

[fervent sky]

yes Turkey Hill helps alot

[toxic shard]

K1HFZ will have it up tomorrow I think.

[fervent sky]

I just turned RX boosted gain back on to test overnight

[toxic shard]

Are you using a cavity filter?

[fervent sky]

nope

[tardy steeple]

I was thinking about making a node inside a bottle and dropping it off the port Jefferson ferry .

[tardy steeple]

Speaking of cavity filters I ordered two off AliExpress Same listing

Very different sizing

[fierce moss]

Ehhh, that's mostly not true. Not how the actual drama went down.

i was there for it

not something worth rehashing here though as this is ultimately those dev's server

[tardy steeple]

https://adrelien.com/blog/how-to-host-your-own-mqtt-for-your-meshtastic-nodes/

[void cape]

Yeah, that reddit comment is wrong.

The developers of the Meshtastic software limited the MQTT capabilities of the default broker to eliminate certain aspects of the position and other fields. Liam's map just doesn't limit what MQTT sends out.

It's understandable from a privacy perspective but most people who were using this software want that level of precision and you could set it to not broadcast GPS if you wanted. The issue was that someone complained and they had to do something about it. This was around the same time that someone mentioned that it was against the iOS ToS to share a user's location that precise and so that's why the iPhone app also was adjusted to provide a less precise position.

Liam's map had existed prior and the reason it was problematic to the Meshtastic developers was because it stored all historical node information from the broker and the Meshtastic people did not like that. So Liam made his own broker for his website without the limitations of the default one.

Effectively, if you want to be part of Liam's map, you have the choice to do that and the firmware doesn't prohibit you from making that choice (which is a good thing)

It did split the mapping but that was already happening prior (such as in Seattle where they did not post their nodes on the public map anyways) so it's not like it was a major loss.

Anyways - --

I made the discovery that my satellite dish box draws way too much power for 802.3at power and I have to move into the realm of PoE++ to get 50+ watts.

The smallest device that splits that to 12V is a din rail mount device as far as I can tell... so now I have the pleasure of upgrading the box I made for the satellite dish.

The issue really is that sometimes at night the power supply for the Pi drops out and is unable to provide sufficient current to run the Pi, the SSD, and the LNA that I'm using. So the SSD becomes underpowered and drops off which breaks the satdump software and it stops recording imagery and data.

https://www.amazon.com/802-3bt-Gigabit-Splitter-Adapter-Wireless/dp/B0C22T9TDS?crid=JDTBC0GBXS0Z&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.OEl2M9REMtg95_K2oKPtoUdI7MPafHZZqch5_H-QML0t8m4lAdc9h-TidoRYeAE1HsP4fW16o6jUm6l0xUHptOsHqsGp3_mIlxmkM1QISvHez9I8UBSPSenRZkR_xLZH0YmMkF_gVzLwf3LMmXX_74S3K4Ri0E5o2eLAMbfiEjXcBfUCFtQ_aHbnNktM__A1k-nVP2Fu7eCoGvu9aQRFskil_R3Q92fPHfvGxdTJxDQ.kI7h30cWHaTUDUDWwx_Hcl-R93A5MUuQ8y4l8LAIMHI&dib_tag=se&keywords=802.3bt+poe+splitter+12v&qid=1740577935&sprefix=802.3bt+poe+splitter+12v%2Caps%2C119&sr=8-4

This is going to be fun lol

[toxic shard]

Why "at night"?

[void cape]

It gets cold and the voltage is apparently dropping at that time.

That's the best explanation I've got so far.

[328350.411818] hwmon hwmon3: Undervoltage detected!
[328352.427810] hwmon hwmon3: Voltage normalised
[328352.433974] usb usb2-port1: over-current change #4
[328352.434064] usb usb3-port1: over-current change #4
[328352.434144] usb usb1-port1: over-current change #4
[328352.459065] usb usb4-port1: over-current change #4
[328352.567075] usb usb1-port2: over-current change #4
[328352.567116] usb usb3-port2: over-current change #4
[328352.619345] usb 3-2: dvb_usb_v2: rc.query() failed=-71
[328352.646995] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 5
[328352.703010] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, device number 5
[328352.710999] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing SCSI cache
[328352.740009] r820t 16-001a: destroying instance
[328352.740227] dvb_usb_v2: 'Realtek RTL2832U reference design:3-2' successfully deinitialized and disconnected

This from the syslog.

The PoE injector is just hanging out in my basement so I doubt that's the issue.

But, it's entirely plausible that it's caused by blips in our power which happen frequently.

We need an electrician to come check the feed to the house because we think one of the 120V legs in the main panel or on the overhead is loose.

I suppose I could get a small battery backup to cover that for now.

I'm also getting some issues in the decoding and I'm not sure if that's an issue with the power or just a signal quality issue

http://satellite.ctha.ja4.org/IMAGES/GOES-16/Mesoscale 1/2025-02-26_13-52-25/abi_rgb_ABI_False_Color_map.png

I also have a T-beam in the box right now and I'm contemplating removing it to see if that helps, but I doubt it's drawing much power at all.

It does spike up to 0.25A from time to time so maybe that's enough to kick the SSD off with a voltage drop

[fierce moss]

You can always do that yourself... just wear gloves and be careful.

if you have solar or a generator, you have a fast-disconnect on the outside of the house to cut power to the panel

to check that first

easiest thing to do is just to visually check each main line lug

and crank them down

make sure they are all greased

[void cape]

No quick disconnect for a generator/solar

The solar I've got doesn't hook into our grid power; it just plugs into a large battery I have in the basement.

[fierce moss]

ahh

have a transfer switch?

[void cape]

No

[fierce moss]

gotcha

[void cape]

Although we are certainly considering getting one for the generator we have so that we can stop running cords everywhere

[fierce moss]

still, if you are comfortable, you can always just check the main lugs

[void cape]

yeah I'm going to let the electrician do that since I'm not comfortable pulling the main meter prior to that.

[fierce moss]

is it a portable generator?

[void cape]

yeah

[fierce moss]

i was talking about doing it without pulling the meter lol

i work on mine live all the time

[void cape]

yeah I'm not fond of 240 volts after the last time I caused an explosion

[fierce moss]

i gotcha

it's pretty easy to do a generator backfeed

[void cape]

Granted, that was a 240v 3 phase setup with a few hundred amps available in a datacenter environment. But when I saw what it could do to a piece of metal, I've been careful since.

Oh, yeah, I've done all sorts of other electrical projects including installing an entire subpanel.

I just don't feel comfortable when I can't turn it off.

Happy little subpanel

[fierce moss]

if you want the quick and dirty method, just run a 2 pole 60amp breaker to a generator outlet

[void cape]

yeah my dad has backfed before but I'm not a fan

[fierce moss]

you just HAVE to be 100% certain to manually kill the main breaker before the generator fires up

yea

[void cape]

It can be dangerous since the neutral is still connected and that can cause issues

[fierce moss]

true

[void cape]

We're going to have our electrician do all that work soon ™️

It's not like I'm short on money to have it done properly.

he's an awesome guy and checks my photos of our panel when I make small changes

[fierce moss]

nice

[void cape]

but, he's also very busy and can't come out for a little while

alas

Oh!

The new version of this box, I'm also thinking of throwing an ADS-B reciever in as well.

Not that there's a lack of coverage, but why not.

If I mount this on the side of the house, I'm also thinking of mounting my big 2m/70m antenna on it as well just for completeness lol

Contain all the radio junk to one... area

So that my mother doesn't kill me.

I even put in one of these fuzzy things in the wall so that I can run the PL.259 cable from the basement to the radio in my office.

http://satellite.ctha.ja4.org/IMAGES/GOES-16/Mesoscale 1/2025-02-26_14-22-25/abi_rgb_ABI_False_Color.png

So that's what patchy clouds looks like, cool.

[toxic shard]

Ok Turkey Hill in Berlin is back up thanks to @radiant sequoia

[radiant sequoia]

after a little trial and error that is...

[tardy steeple]

5 below node containers ? lol

[hidden timber]

https://meshtastic.org/blog/meshtastic-2-6-preview/

[toxic shard]

Wish they wouldn't use "MUI", that is a completely different very very popular open source library

Makes googling rough.

We have different ideas of fun

[hidden timber]

yeah i had to use chatgpt for that one

answer: ||Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A|| (spoiler)

[tardy steeple]

I said that last night they removed my message …

[tardy steeple]

Are you serious right now ? You don’t know the contra code

[hidden timber]

nope, haha

[radiant sequoia]

where is the code supposed to be entered...

[hidden timber]

just into the page itself

[radiant sequoia]

ahh

[tardy steeple]

I tried on both a mac and a WinBlows

Nothing

[hidden timber]

weird, worked for me with this sequence of keys

[radiant sequoia]

lowercvase b and a

[toxic shard]

Worked for me, flashed it to my T-Deck Plus

[hidden timber]

how's the new UI?

[toxic shard]

reasonable

Bit hard to go back to a tiny physical keyboard after a decade of touch keyboards, but it's cool it's all in one device

(there is a touch keyboard, and other device types may be better with that)

Definitely should try it if you've got a T-Deck or other touchscreen node.

[hidden timber]

i don't currently but have been looking at the T-Deck. apparently my T-Echo can take advantage of the new e-ink UI

[toxic shard]

true, I've got one of those too somewhere

[hidden timber]

have you had good luck with the stub antenna that came with it or did you replace it?

hearing mixed things about it

[toxic shard]

On the T-Echo I replaced it with a longer whip.

They used to sell a longer version of this, which is what I used https://store.rokland.com/products/2-5-dbi-sma-male-915-mhz-soft-flexible-whip-antenna-for-t-beam-t-echo-other-lora

they used to sell a 3.2dBi one, looks like that, but slightly longer. I'd probably go with the Gizont if I had to quickly pick one https://github.com/meshtastic/antenna-reports/blob/main/PDFs/Gizont_Nb-iot.pdf

[tardy steeple]

I have no devices that are not main deployments .

I rather wait a week or two then do 2.6

Oops

[radiant sequoia]

Is the IOS app terribly slow basically unusable... or is it just me....

been this way for a while...

[tardy steeple]

Same here . Keeps lagging really really bad

[radiant sequoia]

like unusable...

[hidden timber]

i dont think mine's been slow, but occasionally out of sync. also, will occasionally disconnect from the node and not reconnect, i think after i've gone out of range. it reconnects when i open the app.

and on android, it will also sometimes be disconnected when opening the app, and doesn't reconnect until you force close and reopen the app entirely

my nearby traffic, being east of the river, is also significantly less than yours, guaranteed lol

[tardy steeple]

I was told that’s my problem is it’s not designed to handle more then 100

[hidden timber]

haha

and only 8 actually online

(East Hartford)

[tardy steeple]

50 online

On my end

I was thinking about doing this

[hidden timber]

i have weather conditions turned off, but don't think that'll help your case lol

[tardy steeple]

Prob should charge my phone

[final loom]

finally saw another node today. Looks like there is actually someone else down by me haha

[tardy steeple]

What area ?

[final loom]

old saybrook

[steady solar]

The new InkHUD just makes me want an e-ink node even more now....

Looks so damn good

[hidden timber]

wonder how that scales on the smaller t-echo

[tardy steeple]

I just drove to east windsor and picked up a Heltec Wireless Paper

[sage scroll]

Crazy, i see like 3 or 4 nodes in the Stamford area, once in a while meshed to one in NYC. Come out to LA turn on my T-Echo and boom 250+ nodes stretching down to the boarder in an active mesh 😳. I’m guessing a few have some very strategic placed nodes on high places.

Would love to see this in NY/CT

[hidden timber]

We’ll get there

[sage scroll]

2 hops to San Diego from my location 😳

[hidden timber]

Wow

[toxic shard]

I had 700+ nodes by the time I got home from SoCal recently. Had to purge as the iOS app was unusable.

On my old intel Mac I had a lot of performance issues related to the graphs of device metrics

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard

You aren’t the one I was talking to about the replacement antenna for the unified enclosures were you ?

https://store.rokland.com/collections/new-arrivals-1/products/ipex-to-rp-sma-female-replacement-double-side-thread-pigtail-for-rak-910421-unify-enclosure-case

[toxic shard]

Nope

[steady solar]

So I ordered a seeed studio indicator but it's on backorder.... fingers crossed it comes in before de minimis gets nuked 😬

[toxic shard]

I ordered one way back but they had the txco problem and hopefully I get a new one. I filled out the form for it, but I imagine that's part of the backlog. It's interesting, but I probably wouldn't have gotten it if I'd realized it had no battery

[tardy steeple]

Didn’t they get recalled ?

[steady solar]

I got the rj45 adapter for it and figured it might be a good node to use for a local mesh sense setup and sitting at my desktop with the new ui

[tardy steeple]

Ya I decided not to get one as it has no battery internally and id you wanted to run a GPS on it it weirdly hung out the back

[toxic shard]

it's an pretty cool looking desk node

[tardy steeple]

Agreed

[steady solar]

Installed a node in the BJ's location of Torrington, was able to reach out to bantam lake so I'm curious to see how much coverage it may add

If it's a good location I'll look into getting it to be a bit more permanent and higher up

[tardy steeple]

Is Meshtastic under attack ?

I got a screen caps for two groups, but there’s five that I’m in they have been removed within within the last two weeks

[final loom]

maybe could be someone abusing the groups or them not being moderated properly? That's quite unfortunate though. Are these talking about the discord groups/channels in here or some other website/social media?

[tardy steeple]

Facebook

Didn’t know if anybody seen anything or heard anything

[final loom]

Ah ok. I know facebook can be absolute assholes about this kinda thing. A group/page gets banned and they never respond to appeals. Also they have automated systems that can ban/remove a group/page if X amount of reports are made.

[tardy steeple]

I called someone a silly goose and got a 2 day suspension

[final loom]

WOW

https://tenor.com/view/flabbergoosted-bare-tree-media-bird-birds-duck-gif-11211782427028135209

But ya that shows how wierd they are about things

[hidden timber]

that's wild

[final loom]

You know a few days ago I went up to Cromwell and I didn't see any nodes. It's kinda helpful to have things configured correctly. Im up here again today I now have seen several nodes haha

[hidden timber]

it's weird, i'll be in east hartford some days and have nothing, then there's days like today and i have 36 online. in vernon usually there's one or two, right now 60 lol

[final loom]

Ah ok. I definitely had mine misconfigured though. I did a factory reset because I screwed up something else and I never set the frequency to US until the next day haha

[hidden timber]

ohhh haha. yeah been there, had my channels set wrong at first myself

[hidden timber]

vernon's back down to 6 lol, think someone was up on box mountain by the name of "meshy" that bridged quite a bit

heard from N1SAT that he was cleared for permanent install of a node up there, and it'll likely be going up this weekend

[toxic shard]

yeah I saw a lot of routes to meshy for a bit

[tardy steeple]

Just got three nodes gonna run
Meshtastic
Meshcore
Reticulum

[void cape]

there's some conv in the us pennsylvania chat about it

sounds like just a takedown with anything that had "meshtastic" in the name

[tardy steeple]

@steady solar

https://youtu.be/7X4RVZdqKao?si=DpzxkGx15e4gouDJ

[steady solar]

New TCC video, let's gooooo

Yeah that overview of the new UI further solidifies my want for an Indicator as a permanent piece at my work desk. Great price for the feature set too.

[tardy steeple]

Woot

[hidden timber]

watched that video a bit ago and had the same idea 😂

[toxic shard]

New MeshSense beta

Still crashes on my mac in a bluetooth-heavy environment

Chatter about meshsense using too much channel utilization and also of further firmware rate limiting of traces. I'm pondering, I don't have a conclusion personally, but I know it'll be of interest to some here, perhaps on both sides of the issue: https://github.com/Affirmatech/MeshSense/issues/64

I'm going to set my MeshSense to 180 minutes per node in the meantime while I follow the discussion.

[void cape]

looks like discussion concluded

it would be great if there was a way to indicate in the meshtastic firmware that a node is usually mobile or usually static; if the node doesn't move often you don't need to traceroute it very often

it has gps in it and if the node has gps it knows whether it moves frequently or not

[toxic shard]

meshsense only traces nodes with positions

[void cape]

if it doesn't... maybe not so much, but still

[toxic shard]

(automatically)

(because it can't show other nodes on the map)

[void cape]

yeah so maybe if meshsense only asks nodes that it knows move frequently and asks less frequently of nodes that do not work frequently

I'm actually thinking maybe I should suggest it in that thread

[toxic shard]

I'd throw the suggestion (or a couple) in a new Issue

[void cape]

mmm

[toxic shard]

I know Gary uses Meshsense, and I know I do. I'm not sure if anyone else in our area routinely uses it

I think the discussion around traceroutes isn't concluded, and I'm not even sure MeshSense's changes and adaptations are concluded. But that Github Issue is closed, true.

[void cape]

https://github.com/Affirmatech/MeshSense/issues/69

Turns out someone suggested something very similar in https://github.com/Affirmatech/MeshSense/issues/68 but I did not want to steal their issue comment thread for my idea.

I think it's different enough and tbh probably should be made against the Meshtastic repository.

[void cape]

Update on the satellite dish - I've got it running again and I installed a UPS behind the PoE injector which may help with power stability issues in the network rack. I haven't seen the router in that rack have issues but maybe something was going on there. I also improved the systemd service that restart satdump so that it will retry after 60 seconds of being crashed. Maybe this will work better and maybe it'll make a horrible mess out of the mount when the ssd crashes

Oh! Turns out you can requite a mountpoint in systemd units. Done!

[jolly ruin]

maybe old news by now given how fast things travel these days.. but regarding the FB purge - apparently it's a trademark thing

https://discordapp.com/channels/867578229534359593/1047263557525458994/1345215185740365835

[tardy steeple]

Oooooo

[toxic shard]

Oooph, seems like my CARD node has locked up. I can connect to it, but it's not getting any traffic since the 27th and I can't even use the button to shut it down. I guess I'll try letting the battery die and then charging it and see if it comes back.

[tardy steeple]

Kinda weird how seeed removed the help/support #

[tardy steeple]

My message has been saying

“Waiting to be acknowledged “ for almost 12 hours now

[void cape]

I love how I get like 1/3 of the messages everyone else gets

[fierce moss]

Pffft. I compiled my own firmware to remove the trace route limiting lol

But i do agree that a nice feature in meshsense would be to designate or auto-designate static nodes that don’t move as “once a day” or something

[radiant sequoia]

that string missed a few messages....

[tardy steeple]

When doesn’t it …

[radiant sequoia]

Truth...

[void cape]

Literally my suggestion in the issue I made lol

[toxic shard]

That message is toast, the app might have missed the final status from the node. Nodes try like 3 times to get an ack from anyone and then give up with the max retries error.

[steady solar]

I had one of those wednesday? night so I just ended up removing it and re-sending and it went through instantly

[steady solar]

I feel you, I see one side of conversations so often hah. Btw did you see my test from torrington message yesterday, should've been around 9-10am?

[void cape]

I did! I responded too

[steady solar]

Dangit, do you know around what time? I was out of there by about 10:30am

I'm surprised I didn't catch it on my mobile or home node. I literally just put a node on the second floor of a torrington building in our server room so it's in a pretty suboptimal location, just want to test what sort of connectivity we'd get

[void cape]

9:07am

[tardy steeple]

My node in a bottle floating on Long Island sound was a fail . Can’t locate it and no hits or anything .

[radiant sequoia]

in 100 years maybe you'll get it back when it washes ashore...

[tardy steeple]

I put an Apple air tag inside as well .

[jolly ruin]

love that creativity. very cool.

[tardy steeple]

Not sure if this would benefit anyone however when I am building nodes for myself or others I store them in crayon cases the lid also provides a flat build surface and prevents wondering screws.

[final loom]

oh that's nice and cheap. looks like there is a michaels near me too 😄 Been looking for something like this.

[tardy steeple]

Plus they stack

[final loom]

Nice

[toxic shard]

The hat is a good disguise

[hidden timber]

@fierce moss @toxic shard 👋

@desert imp and I are up on box mountain putting up the node. what role do you think we should set it to?

(or anyone else that might have opinions haha)

[tardy steeple]

Client , that’s very low to the ground IMO

[hidden timber]

we're at 255m

[toxic shard]

I’d start with client and assess. Put admin keys on it so you can change it remotely later if you want.

[tardy steeple]

I concur

[toxic shard]

Great spot though, thanks for getting that up there.

Which node is it?

[hidden timber]

BOX

[radiant sequoia]

ya start with client...

now if it was at the top with lifestars antenna and everything else, different story...

Bruce will pay for climbers...

[toxic shard]

Seeing BOX at 1 hop on my home G2

(in Plainville)

(Helios is in Farmington just north of me on the hill)

Does BOX have MQTT?

[hidden timber]

That's bizarre. N1SAT (-17.5dB) is his T-Beam in the car here. No MQTT yet.

[radiant sequoia]

no trace from my g2.... see it though as 2 hops away...

[toxic shard]

Meshtastic will often prefer weaker nodes first on the assumption they're further away

[toxic shard]

I imagine when he leaves it'll get its own report and be somewhat stronger.

[hidden timber]

We just left a bit ago if you wanted to try it again

[toxic shard]

I asked about MQTT because if you have MQTT then you can turn on "Neighbor Info" and have it sent over RF too, which can be interesting to see remotely what your node can hear

[hidden timber]

Gotcha. I have MHC1 on MQTT and configured that way I think

[toxic shard]

Will let you know about an updated trace later when one goes through. Trying not to spam them 🙂

[tribal osprey]

Box is a good site, however I can only imagine what the channel utilization is, even at that height.

[hidden timber]

34% currently lol

[tribal osprey]

Thats it? I figured it would be in the mid 40s.

[hidden timber]

31% now

[toxic shard]

Does Box have a cavity filter?

[hidden timber]

Not yet, I think @desert imp's got one on order.

[toxic shard]

sweet

[hidden timber]

i can let him speak to it if he's around, but pictured here is pretty much what i saw today when he showed me. plus a DC input jack in the side for the solar panel

[void cape]

Looking at propagation paths, box mountain would make sense as a router tbh

As long as it’s high enough

The location in general is quite good, since it has good connectivity east

[hidden timber]

yeah we made the decision to leave it on Router for now to see how it does. went from 4 nodes (just my own) at my home base in vernon to 40+, so basically there was no coverage around here before. we figured router seems to make sense for that use case based on the docs.

Edit: now trying Client

[toxic shard]

sounds good. We're not seeing it here anymore, oddly

[hidden timber]

when was it last seen?

[toxic shard]

One thing to be aware of with Router is it'll turn off your bluetooth access, so use the admin interface to turn that back on if you want to maintain that for access too

12:21pm for FIRM

[hidden timber]

yeah we saw we had to switch it away from router to do firmware updates also

[hidden timber]

that might be around when we changed it down to 1W transmit power. hmm.

we had also changed it from client to router at some point, but i think it was before that

from GAF

[tribal osprey]

What's the agl of Turkey Hill antenna?

[toxic shard]

the one in Berlin or the one in Mass?

AGL of Berlin is maybe 10-15 feet

I don't know about the Mass one, it doesn't say here https://pvmesh.org/network/routers/turkeyhill/

@hoary oxide what are you seeing BOX SNR at?

Err, nevermind, that should be a question for @nimble vale

[tribal osprey]

If you can get permission to go on the tower, ill put it up, in exchange for a spot of my own 900MHz antenna! (not meshtastic0

[hidden timber]

G2 owners, just want to confirm that the power level setting for 1W should be "10" in the app when configuring?

[radiant sequoia]

that is correwct....

[toxic shard]

Yes, but you should add on your coax loss and subtract your antenna gain, technically

[radiant sequoia]

I think the antenna was directly connected...

based on the picture they had...

[toxic shard]

I i missed it

[hidden timber]

yeah, this was for BOX. it's set to '10' now, wanted to be sure that was actually correct

[hidden timber]

weird, it's just a screenshot of the table here: https://wiki.uniteng.com/en/meshtastic/station-g2#summary-for-lora-power-amplifier-conduction-test

[void cape]

Shows on my side no issues

[hidden timber]

it could be changed to licensed mode and go up to '19' setting, but it's my understanding that comes with some fairly restrictive conditions (eg lack of encryption) -- how does this affect a repeater node? doesn't that almost entirely defeat it's effectiveness?

[toxic shard]

licensed mode takes you off the public mesh, it's ham-only

that's my understanding at least and what i've observed causally

[hidden timber]

same here. so even if the node is being operated by a licensed operator, you legally can't set it to transmit higher than 1W in unlicensed mode?

[tardy steeple]

Maybe cuz I’m out on a boat

[void cape]

Yeah, because the laws that allow higher power in ham require no encryption

There’s nothing that says that you couldn’t receive encryption, it just sending.. but Meshtastic doesn’t support it anyhow

It would be cool if ham made could send unencrypted on the same channel

The issue is that non-ham nodes can’t send at full power so you can’t use a ham node as a router for non-ham users. So I can kinda see why.

It would encourage a lot of people to put it in ham mode with a fake callsign which we don’t want

[hidden timber]

makes sense. just trying to ensure we're maximizing the BOX node's potential, within legal limits.

[toxic shard]

CARD seems to be working again now that it ran out of power. Weird sort of lockup I haven't seen before on a T1000-e

[jolly ruin]

couple traces to BOX from pville

[void cape]

Yeah, the issues with the satellite dish and the node that's with it is that when it's super cold, the voltage regulator stops working. Feature ™️

It was working fine for a few days but now that it's below freezing again the voltage regulator is malfunctioning.

[toxic shard]

Interesting. Good thing to know.

[void cape]

I guess any future nodes I set up will get tested in the chest freezer before I put them somewhere awful to get to.

Thankfully, this one is just hanging out in the backyard.

[tardy steeple]

How ?????

[toxic shard]

Positions aren't always correct.

They can be set manually, or they can just be wrong.

[tardy steeple]

That’s it I’m setting myself in Alaska

lol

[toxic shard]

that's how you get ignored

[toxic shard]

Another possibility would be someone doing MQTT relay through their phone while traveling.

[hidden timber]

It’s funny because we missed the - when setting the location on BOX at first. So it was 6000 miles away. We were confused for just about 8 seconds before realizing what was going on 🤣

[void cape]

Haahahahaha - I can tell you that node almost certainly did not travel that far

[void cape]

why does the bluetooth suck so much on this device.. it took over 2 hours of messing with settings on this node to get it to communicate

I tried older and newer firmware and I wonder if the node's antenna is just bad or something

it's a t-beam 1.1 I've had kicking around for a while.

[toxic shard]

BLE pain is the worst

[tardy steeple]

Dental pain

[toxic shard]

you speak the tooth

[tardy steeple]

I typed that and then reread it , I was in the process of removing lol

[void cape]

hahahaha

[tardy steeple]

Got a mesh core node at one end of my house and a Meshtastic at the other

[toxic shard]

The Jackery Explorer 100 Plus is on sale for $89 on Amazon if anyone wants it for backup G2 power. I'm using it for my mobile node, keeps it running when the car is off. LFP with low-temp charging protection.

[jolly ruin]

something I recently learned with these ^ if using pass through with a low power device chances are energy saver will kick in and turn the device off after 12 or 24 hours. Energy Saver can be disabled using the phone app.

[tardy steeple]

Good deal on 21700 cells

https://www.18650batterystore.com/products/lg-m50lt-5000mah-15a-21700-battery?_kx=Ubj6Gg-pF_1pB4CYEdJUlSE9_UIgQ5QTQBXentHh-ZQ.Y9n3Nv

[toxic shard]

i can't remember if I did that, or if the G2 just draws enough

[jolly ruin]

I was running a raspberry pi 3 or pi 4 with an SDR .. guess it wasn't enough. happened 2 times.

with the explorer 300

[void cape]

Haven’t had any issues with that on my g2

[tardy steeple]

Mine was 179 just now

Ooo wait I got the solar panels

[toxic shard]

yeah, there are different combos (or no combo) on the listing page

[hidden timber]

jackery makes some nice stuff. i've got an explorer 300

[toxic shard]

I've got a couple Jackery 1000 v2 units as well, very nice. Got them for a STEAL

[hidden timber]

also have an Anker 767, it's a tank

[toxic shard]

nice

Their new Anker SOLIX C300 DC station looks pretty slick.

[hidden timber]

i got the 767 half off on black friday ha

[hidden timber]

hmm i think i saw some negative press on that somewhere, trying to remember where...

[toxic shard]

I just can't not think of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767

[hidden timber]

maybe it was another one that looked like it

[hidden timber]

do you think they did that on purpose 🤔

[void cape]

Definitely

[toxic shard]

The new F3800 Plus is sick.

[hidden timber]

i keep seeing that everywhere

[toxic shard]

giving them away to youtubers will do that

But there are a few I trust for no BS. Jasonoid is probably my go-to. AveRage Joe is pretty good too.

[fervent sky]

Apparently my t-deck is on a side quest in the Atlantic Ocean

GPS accuracy 👌🏻

[hidden timber]

how do you like your t-deck? i've been thinking about getting one

[fervent sky]

The 2.6 UI makes a huge difference in usability. I have the non-plus, 2000mah battery, GPS chip jammed into a random Etsy case.

[hidden timber]

yeah 2.6 is what sparked any real interest in it for me. any reason for not going with the plus version aside from cost? bigger battery?

[hidden timber]

oh, it looks cooler too lol

[fervent sky]

If I got another I would get a Plus. But it was the second node I put together after my first Heltec V3

[hidden timber]

i like the green tho. what's the battery life like for you?

[fervent sky]

Green w/ orange back. I have no idea with the 2.6 firmware. With Power saver enabled and Bluetooth disabled plus other stuff by default I'd imagine a long time

I turned it on at midnight so I'll know later today. Even though it'll sit in Sleep for most of the day

[hidden timber]

curious what you find out. you recommend going with external antenna option?

[fervent sky]

The t-deck came with a patch antenna for internal use and the case came with a plug for the hole or you can option for an external antenna. I use a https://store.rokland.com/products/alfa-network-ars-915pr-2-dbi-sma-male-915-mhz-antenna-with-90-elbow-for-t-beam-t-echo-lora32

[hidden timber]

I think that’s the same one that comes with the G2? Looks like it anyway. Thinking about swapping that on MHC1 to a 4-5dbi fiberglass antenna. Could then use the stock one with the tdeck 🤔

Appreciate the info

[tardy steeple]

Prob where my node floated off too haha

[steady solar]

also no issues with this with my 100 + g2

[fervent sky]

I forgot it has a 2000mah battery now, not 5000mah. The 5000mah flat battery exploded. The t-deck has been in sleep mode all day and is at 39%

[hidden timber]

Not too bad. It exploded?? Hopefully it didn’t burn your house down (again)

Assume it still receives messages in sleep mode?

[fervent sky]

Yeah I stomped it out with my boot on the basement wood laminate floor as it was exploding. Those flat slim batteries bend really easily then become unstable and instant fire ball

It still received messages in sleep mode yesterday and lasted a little more than a full 24 hours on a 2000mah so the 5000mah or however big you go will last at least a day

[steady solar]

Dang that went UP in price

Oh wait I'm sorry, that's a nordic chip. The ESP32 is/was $9.99

[tardy steeple]

What’s better ? The nordic right ?

Just did this . 🤣

[toxic shard]

you could sell that on Etsy for $200

[tardy steeple]

I made an Etsy seller account and it was banned .

[toxic shard]

The [email protected] address probably set off alarms

[tardy steeple]

They sure as shit took my money tho

[toxic shard]

😬

[toxic shard]

anyone having trouble using the web client these days?

Getting a lot of errors in the console like this and not connecting via BLE

[fierce moss]

I just avoid it now unless I’m forced to use it

It’s never as stable

[tardy steeple]

Yup nothing but issues .

Got annoyed the other day and started down the rabbit hole with MeshCore lol

[toxic shard]

I use it pretty often to configure nodes or if I need to be connected to more than one node at a time on the same computer.

[final loom]

What enclosure is this?

[toxic shard]

They're looking into it over in #web-client

[toxic shard]

Trying to think of a "winner winner chicken dinner" saying but for stuffed peppers. I'm failing.

[tardy steeple]

https://a.co/d/aSIyotV

[tardy steeple]

Winner, winner, pepper dinner!

[toxic shard]

Do you remember which size it is?

[tardy steeple]

One second I don’t use Amazon

https://a.co/d/aSIyotV

8.7”6.7” 4.3

[final loom]

appreciate it

[tardy steeple]

I’m trying to find one like I like the dimensions length and width wise, but the height is just too thick.

Like 2in height would be perfect

[tardy steeple]

I sell a bunch of iPods and ham / GMRS radios over on posh mark . Sold a few nodes as well.

I was thinking about making a Shopify site . I mean I used to have two very good websites for my soaps and candles I just moved and shut it all down .

[toxic shard]

my node has decided it's 2080

[hidden timber]

MHC1 has a new antenna :)

[final loom]

How much does being inside affect the lora signal?

Cause i been thinking about doing something similar in my attic or attach it to the outside of my house but not how much it would affect it.

[fierce moss]

A lot

Huge difference being outside. As high as you can.

It’s only 100 miliwatt

[fervent sky]

It affects it alot. I have a similar setup in my garage attic.

[fierce moss]

That includes others sending to you. A

[final loom]

Gotcha. Ya I know about being as high as possible but wasnt sure about the real penetration of it. Main reason I was thinking inside the attic was that I don't have a safe way of getting up there right now. Eventually im gonna rent one of those man lifts like I do every 5 years or so to work on the sides of my house but thats nbot gonna be for another 2 years haha

I don't have a safe way to get up on the outside of the house that is.

[tardy steeple]

I think this as a Ham/Gmrs configuration would do well Lora not so much . Just my opinion .

[void cape]

It will affect the LoRa signal but the key issue is whether being in the attic gets you somewhere your node would otherwise not get great coverage. It could be the case that installing it in the attic instead of at ground level gets you high enough that it’s able to get over terrain to another node. The issue really is whether you have a line of sight to a node without terrain, and less about the walls in the way. Lora can go through a few inches of concrete without too much trouble but a hill or other terrain is much harder for it.

[hidden timber]

i haven't ever had one outside, but luckily i'm up on a hill with pretty good almost line of sight to BOX aside from the roof there. but yeah, i imagine a lot like others have said

[hidden timber]

i'm seeing little difference from the stock G2 antenna so far, i think. hard to say. right now i'm not even picking up BOX, and i don't know why lol

[hidden timber]

or in this case, 1W ;)

[void cape]

The transmitting power of the node on the other side is also important.

And some extent whether you have a filter or not on the input so that you get better signal quality

[hidden timber]

i'd say BOX definitely needs that, so it's good one is on the way

[fierce moss]

doesnt matter though

doesnt help if your side screams if the other side cant

maybe thye hear you, but you wont hear them

its still primarily a 100mw network

[hidden timber]

yeah true

[hidden timber]

Some nice views from Box Mountain

[tardy steeple]

Where is box mountain ?

My g/f said Vernon ? I’ve just never heard of it

[hidden timber]

yes sir

[tardy steeple]

Only place I know up that way is Talcottville Rd

May take a ride now .

[radiant sequoia]

with a huge ass antenna on the top that's usually in the clouds....

😆

[hidden timber]

Just a little further northwest is MHC1 haha. Let me know if you hit it. It covers most of Vernon center pretty well from up there

[hidden timber]

Box mountain is probably 10 min ride from that pin

[strong gust]

I saw you testing on the 0 channel Noah, if thats the same Noah. I was on MAL2 in Prospect, ct. I don't know if my message made it back to you

[toxic shard]

Prospect's a nice reach from Vernon. Not sure I've seen any nodes down that way yet from here in Plainville

[tardy steeple]

I love taking my kid to friendlys . Don’t know one was up that way . Prob gonna take a ride by months end .

Yall see this ?

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/12F4jMmfbuH/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[hidden timber]

Not sure. Which message was it you received? Sent a few tests today 😂

[tardy steeple]

https://youtu.be/HepazYN-j9U?si=BdSPBluOT0g1by7b

[strong gust]

Ya sadly I dont see me in those caps. I said "I hear you in prospect ct". I saw the mclovin post

[hidden timber]

Yeah I didn’t catch most of those messages. Got unwin and the mclovin one, that’s it

[void cape]

I sent a few you see there but got almost none of them. I suspect MQTT weirdness

[radiant sequoia]

and there's this....

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/undocumented-backdoor-found-in-bluetooth-chip-used-by-a-billion-devices/

[trim elk]

I was just going to share this myself.

[toxic shard]

😬

Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move and that no one should ever have left the oceans.

[final loom]

well thats unfortunate

[fierce moss]

MQTT down while i do some weekend maintenance

[void cape]

This isn’t super surprising tbh. Expressif doesn’t even really support open source firmware on the platform without using their SDK and blobs.

Their wireless implementation is also kinda garbage; we’ve all seen how unstable it can be

[fervent sky]

Typical Reddit behavior. Not surprised

[void cape]

I’m so tired of how everything needs to turn into a political issue.

[fierce moss]

I mean this one is a POTENTIALLY a very legitimate political issue.... Chinese spy backdoor software in everyone's home....
That's not a right vs left thing. That's just a major concern...
But that response? Yea, typical reddit TDS lol

[void cape]

Agreed.

[toxic shard]

Anyone know the node Meshtastic 0001? Seems to be linux native, traces look like it's near Gary but no position so who knows.

I was out in Norwich a bit today, still nada out there

[tardy steeple]

Not sure he’s pretty thorough about naming all his nodes . Don’t think that’s him

[toxic shard]

Agreed, unless it's like an automation test or something.

I'm seeing traces from GFMS going through it.

[hidden timber]

Saw that here this morning also

[fervent sky]

Heltec V3... The battery dies and it loses its name every time....

[tardy steeple]

Prob won’t be around much . Had some big family emergency and I have to move everything outta my home office / work room and have a family member crash here for like 2 months .

I put a lot up for sale in Main Meshtastic group and the ct one

[fierce moss]

Damn. Hope they bounce back quick

[void cape]

Yikes. Hope everything works out

[toxic shard]

What groups do you mean?

[tardy steeple]

On Facebook

[final loom]

Sorry messaged on fb

[hidden timber]

Sorry to hear that, hope all turns out okay

[fierce moss]

hrmmm

wheres GFR1....

and my G2 lost it's name....

sigh

lets see if this is it...

[fierce moss]

wtf,... LongFast default channel was all screwed up

i may just wipe this G2 and update...

why do all these nodes keep losing info??

wtf.. it DISABLED LORA PRESETS

[toxic shard]

how so?

[fierce moss]

great question. it lost like 75% of it's settings

[strong gust]

Could someone messing with it be doing it?

[toxic shard]

it's the chickens

[fierce moss]

mqtt disabled, name reverted to default. lora disabled

fucking bird flu

[toxic shard]

(I don't know what Gary farms, I assume sketchy hacker chickens)

[fierce moss]

haha

[fierce moss]

we have chickens, sheep, goats, and im planting an orchard

and a few rabbits

[tardy steeple]

And then ?

[toxic shard]

I've been making full config backups of my nodes given all the "filesystem" problems lately

[fierce moss]

i should have

im still depressed my main base station died

im 99% sure it was the POE splitter

[toxic shard]

at the same time, I think most of us here could reconfig a node one handed and blindfolded in about three minutes

[fierce moss]

but F it

im going to run coax to the roof and put my base station inside

ill minimize the coax

[toxic shard]

with the chickens

[fierce moss]

well i mean ill put at least 1 chicken in charge of it yea

[tardy steeple]

I got one from AliExpress it was trash and I ended up getting one from Rokland

[toxic shard]

a chicken?

(that's in reply to the AliExpress :-P)

[tardy steeple]

I’m sure you can get one from AliExpress

[toxic shard]

You can get chickens in the mail already

[tardy steeple]

I once had a giant spider in a shipment and it was still alive . Shit was huge and definitely angry

[toxic shard]

Used to be able to mail more https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/635706/when-usps-let-you-mail-children

[tardy steeple]

I’ve seen that

My kids a plumper he would cost too much haha

[toxic shard]

i thought you said plumber and was confused

[tardy steeple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/meshtastic/s/uO36lsjbb2

[void cape]

Yeah tbh I’m not impressed with the PoE hardware out there

My satellite dish project is going to get upgraded to din rail based PoE++ once I’m done paying vet bills…

This outputs 12V at like 4A which should run everything in the dish control box. It might even run a rotator

If this doesn’t work I’m running a 12V line from my battery system in the basement and throwing PoE hardware in the trash

[fierce moss]

its all chinese trash is the problem

but i wanted to avoid a hat

ive used one before, but thats MORE of a direct line to the pi

ok... G2 reprogramed

lets see if meshsense starts picking up local nodes

[void cape]

Yeah.. it’s concerning how little consumer/prosumer gear is made in the states

[toxic shard]

2.6.1 is alpha

[toxic shard]

Loaded the maps on my T-Deck. Took like 7 hours to copy all the tiny files to the SD card. Painful.

[tardy steeple]

That’s a long time

[steady solar]

I noticed yesterday/today I've had a huuuge drop off in seen nodes, I believe I usually link up to tf&g or your base, wonder if this is why

[tardy steeple]

iOS

[fierce moss]

I had issues with some servers over the weekend., had to rebuild some stuff. my G2 screwed up too at the same time.

Your better direct shot was my base station. thats offline at the moment. im 99% sure the POE adapter failed

i have a plan for it.

but i have the G2 in the house at the moment (i have repaired it) and am relying on TFG

[steady solar]

Interesting, thanks for the detail

I didn't realize I was so dependent on your base 😳

I really need to swap out my 10dbi antenna now that it's getting warmer. I'm shooting way too flat and missing my coworker a couple miles away heh

[fierce moss]

yea im going to run some short coax from my antenna to inside my new office area. Where i can reach the node from now on lol

[tardy steeple]

Do you need a step down , power sensor or anything ?

I was looking into co ax and was told to buy these

[void cape]

Why would you need a current sensor?

[tardy steeple]

Not sure . I ordered all this tho

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6545054

[void cape]

Yeah I’m not sure why they did this but they wired the coax input at the bottom with a buck regulator and the current sensor

Seems silly to build it that way; the coax is not actually using a bias tee so it’s not being used for signal at all but instead just as a power cable.

I guess you can do it that way but they probably have no idea what a bias tee is

If I went to the extent to install a bias tee on my coax to run it like this, I would use an Ethernet based node and connect it via MoCA.

[tardy steeple]

I definitely don’t

[void cape]

A bias tee allows you to share power and RF signal over the same coax.

It’s commonly used to power antenna amplifiers at the antenna instead of putting the amplifier at the end of your coax feed line where it gets all of the noise of the feed line. This improves SNR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_tee

The RTLSDR and the HackRF are SDR's that both provide a low current (~250mA?) 5V bias tee output.

But, there's nothing preventing you from using a dedicated bias tee device that is not part of an SDR to provide power over an otherwise RF signal cable.

The benefit is that you don't need to run additional wires.

So, like, if you didn't want to run Ethernet to your node or it's super far (beyond the length of PoE), you could use MoCA to provide ethernet at the far end of a very long coax run that also provides power.

MoCA 2.5, the third version of MoCA, has a maximum distance of around 500 meters (1,640 feet) and can support transmission speeds of up to 2.5Gbps.

and you could use a bias tee at each end to add/remove the DC offset to power equipment. Like the MoCA box and some radio equipment.

[tardy steeple]

Yikes

[void cape]

did you connect the battery backwards?

[tardy steeple]

No that’s from an Etsy listing

[toxic shard]

Interesting idea.

[fierce moss]

I can’t think of a specific current project, but if you are just getting rid of them, I’ll add them to the parts pile and they will def get used for something eventually

[void cape]

Oh yeah, totally have a pile of buck regulators. Are handy

[toxic shard]

If this had a built-in meshtastic node I'd buy it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9JzcIDx15I

[tardy steeple]

I was asking like if you needed those parts to build as that’s what I was told for a go ax build

[final loom]

are 18650 style batteries generally considered safer then the flat style ones? I am trying to figure out what I want to use for an outdoor solar node.

[toxic shard]

It depends on the application. For a node in an enclosure where the flat won't be phyiscally stressed, they usually have some protection circuitry that a bare 18650 does not. Button-top 18650's often have protection, but they also often don't fit into holder meant for flat-top 18650s. If you want the physcial robustness of an 18650, I'd either use a protected button-top, or add a protection component between the battery and everything else, such as this one https://www.etsy.com/listing/1421193059/li-ion-battery-protection-modules-pcm

[tardy steeple]

I must add to get authentic cells

The 9900mahs are definitely not legit

[toxic shard]

Unless you really enjoy fussing with electronics, I would use the parts from Austin Mesh and not use a descrete battery

https://www.austinmesh.org/devices/#parts-list

(uses a IoT-device-friendly battery pack that takes solar input from a 5v USB solar panel). Very reliable solution.. The downside is you will not have remote visibility into the state of charge of the battery.

But it will reliably wake from dead if the battery runs out then solar returns.

Unrelated to that, the MeshAdv Pi Hat is in stock again https://www.etsy.com/listing/1849074257/back-in-stock-meshadv-pi-hat-v11-fully?ref=yr_purchases

[hidden timber]

we seem to have fixed an issue with BOX, it was going to sleep for some reason. fixed by changing super deep sleep & light sleep durations to 0. anyone seen this before?

it was disappearing for 6-7 hours at a time it seemed

[toxic shard]

i've never needed to change those

[hidden timber]

N1SAT caught it in sleep mode the other day when he did a cavity check

MHC1 is set to "4294967295" and "300" respectively, never changed mine either. he said one of the values was set to 86,000 or something.

since changing to 0 earlier this week, the eastern side of the mesh seems to be much healthier

i also changed the location & nodeinfo intervals to be a bit more frequent

nodeinfo was 3hr, location 12hr, now 1hr / 15min. what is yours set to @toxic shard?

or what is recommended haha

[tardy steeple]

https://voltaicsystems.com/iot-battery-packs/

[final loom]

thanks again for all the info guys 🙂

[toxic shard]

you do not need to send location that often for a fixed location node

[final loom]

I was reading that that might be a thing so glad to know a good solution to it since im not gonna be able to get to it very often

[toxic shard]

I don't know what my intervals are off the top of my head

[hidden timber]

i figured, just kind of blasted a bunch of settings changes at it to see what helped it not disappear for so long. i think it was the sleep settings more than location interval. i figure too frequent is unnecessary, but too infrequent and passing nodes won't ever get it's location?

[toxic shard]

Passing nodes are not a concern

They certainly shouldn't be a reason to use excess airtime

Especially on a node that can be heard over half the state

My $0.02 anyhow 🙂

[hidden timber]

yeah makes sense, which is why i'm asking the question haha ;)

i can change it when i'm back in vernon later. out of the mesh at the moment in east hartford

speaking of which, i should have a new well-placed east hartford node up in the next week or two ;)

am excited to play with weather modules and stuff for it too

we're also looking at adding some sensors to box

[tardy steeple]

What board is being used ?

[hidden timber]

RAK
edit: ^ EH node

oh, box is a G2

we were looking at maybe monitoring voltage of the solar panel and/or battery

[toxic shard]

If you want a bigger battery that has protection and already has the RAK-compatible JST: https://www.adafruit.com/product/353

Or 10050mAh https://www.adafruit.com/product/5035

Or you can build your own using cell holders like Gary does, of course.

[tardy steeple]

Just verify that you are building in parallel, not series

[toxic shard]

Excellent point

[final loom]

Ya likely gonna go with one of these for now but I was looking at some cell holders that are in parallel on amazon to throw some in. Thank you very much for these links.

[hidden timber]

BOX location interval changed to 3 hours

[tardy steeple]

https://youtu.be/shyjGVljpNs?si=gqgP7XtSbuNhgB-c

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard

https://x.com/TheMeshtastic/status/1900656007128256913

Meshtastic (@TheMeshtastic) on X

Check out this wild creation from our community member Mictronics, shared in our Discord community! He built a #meshtastic node into an old #nokia 5130, and yes, the multi-tap keyboard works. Absolute retro tech wizardry.
#RetroTech #DIY #MakerCommunity

X · Mar 14, 2025, 9:11 PM

[toxic shard]

I saw that and sent it to some friends.

[tardy steeple]

Sorry for the late tag didn’t realize the time .

[tardy steeple]

I hate the Georgia usps distribution center. Stuff gets stuck for days

[final loom]

Dude thats sick. I just got a REALLY old ericson phone from a client getting rid of it. I kinda wanna try this lol

[tardy steeple]

https://core-electronics.com.au/courses/meshtastic-for-makers-workshop/

[tropic cobalt]

I'm in the Farmington Valley which has really light activity that's not through MQTT. Is there a channel besides Longfast where active nodes and their ops are communicating? Thanks Jim KC1FNM

[hidden timber]

as i understand it, there's a ConnNet channel we've standardized as a secondary channel, additional info in the pinned messages.

Name: ConnNet
Key: pJgk5XqJY8Ar+jSqC5W81g==
(128bit)

most traffic i've seen is in LongFast however

[fierce moss]

See if you can hit GFR2

If you can, you’ll get the majority of the network

It’s located on the roof of chipanee golf course

[tardy steeple]

Is that key supposed to to be published here like that ?

[hidden timber]

i assumed so since it was in the pinned msg

[tardy steeple]

I asked about the correct config and was told not to post it . If it’s pinned that’s ok
I guess haha

[hidden timber]

i can remove it if we wanted to be more covert about it haha, but yeah, figured it wasn't a big deal. seemed like a public secondary for us CT folks

[tropic cobalt]

I'll be sure to load ConnNet! I think that Chipanee is a bit of a stretch with my antenna but I certainly will keep that in mind! Thanks!

[toxic shard]

I think it's fine given the pinned message. When we started the channel there were a LOT fewer of us on the mesh around here and we kept it a little quiet. But these days I don't think it's a big deal.

[toxic shard]

If you share your location coordinates I can check your line of sight and let you know if any node's I've heard are in the works will help you.

[tardy steeple]

Yeah, I’m not sure if you mentioned it before or somebody else in this chat did but I posted it and I was like told not to post it so I was just confused, but if it’s pinned, I guess it’s all good to go

[toxic shard]

Is it the same as your Ham Radio address?

[toxic shard]

I didn't realize it was pinned either, likewise

[toxic shard]

If so, interesting LoS. Nothing really right now. We've got some nodes in Farmington but nowhere that'll get to you yet.

For context, where's most of the current mesh in central CT

Don't ask how many I bought

Not shown are a couple in West Hartford, a few in Downtown Hartford.

And of course all the ones who do not share a position

[tropic cobalt]

Thanks Unwin, I'll take a closer look! I'm in a hole ! 41.877587132833696, -72.81726488516418

[tardy steeple]

Meshsense does not work on my computer

FML

[void cape]

It would be amazing if a node was installed at the hubelin tower

Or TMSC

That would easily hit many areas.

Or maybe WRDM

[visual mist]

Agreed...would help me out significantly, plus my buddies over in Windsor

How dare Mr. Hubelin build his tower on the tallest part of Talcott Mountain! Didn't he know that a hundred years later it would be a state park and make it hard for Lora enthusiasts to claim that space instead?!?

[void cape]

Well, like I said, there's TMSC which is actually higher IIRC

At least, the rocket silo radar site probably is.

Well, at least for the Nike missile system. The Atlas system was in bunkers elsewhere.

[fierce moss]

It's fine. I started it. Just a good secondary channel to do testing and to isolate CT traffic

[tardy steeple]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHVZ6-izFng/?igsh=MXI5dTdmc25kNTBmNA==

ttgo_by_lilygo

T-Lora pager is in preparation for production

Instagram

[jolly ruin]

Looks like Mt Toby is down, perhaps for firmware updating. Not sure when that happened , but I see we are now getting proper hops for PVEC nodes.

[visual mist]

...holy shit ...WANT!!! That + MUI would be the perfect standalone node...don't get me wrong, still planning to pick up a T-Deck+, but that form factor is just ::chefs kiss::

[fierce moss]

Yea. That looks like pretty much the perfect Mobile node

[tropic cobalt]

I ran a first test on the ConnNet channel about an hour ago. If anyone got it please confirm de KC1FNM. Thanks!

[hidden timber]

got none of those on my end, don't think i've ever seen anything on ConnNet 🤔

[tropic cobalt]

Hmmm. I'd heard about problems with the LoRa frequency being reset to zero with certain changes and requiring a manual reset......but that doesn't seem to be my problem. LongFast looks good.....

[devout plaza]

Mt Toby is currently running in repeater mode so it isn't showing up on traces or node lists.

[jolly ruin]

nice, do you know if the firmware was also updated?

[devout plaza]

Yes.

[toxic shard]

Why?

[devout plaza]

Great question. I'm not really sure. I've advocated for going back to router with some long update intervals.

[toxic shard]

That'd be my move, if it was my node. Thanks for the info on it.

[devout plaza]

100% agree, but not my node.

[toxic shard]

Only reason I know of to use repeater is being able to enable the ALL_SKIP_DECODING rebroadcast setting, which is only available in that mode. But that makes admin over the mesh not work, as I understand it.

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard have you looked into MeshCore at all ?

[toxic shard]

Nope. Been too busy

[tardy steeple]

No, I figured you would be the one to possibly like it a lot better because of the route and compared to what’s going on now with Meshtastic

I’m running both down here however I have no contacts or anybody else on the MeshCore until like upstate New York

[visual mist]

I thought Meshcore didn't have 915MHz support yet...or am I a bit behind in my news??

...I guess from you saying you're running both, it does work 🤣

[radiant sequoia]

the f**king ios app is total dogshit... all my ipads it just crashes all the time and takes 5 to 10 seconds to switch tabs.... useless almost...

[visual mist]

Good thing I'm on Android then 🤣

I've been noodling around a bit with Reticulum too...got as far as setting up an LXC container in my Proxmox cluster and setting up I2P...no idea if it even works, kinda lost my momentum after that...

Love the idea of a platform that can jump between Lora / I2P / TCP, but not sure what to do with it in practice

[tardy steeple]

Yup. Absolute madness .

[radiant sequoia]

I can use the droid version, but honestly the ios version is nicer I feel like, especially the map....

[tardy steeple]

I went on eBay and got an android tablet I just was over it

[radiant sequoia]

ya, that may make sense...

[visual mist]

Q: looking to pick up a T-Deck Plus...do I go with the stock internal antenna, or get the one that's already set up to use an external SMA

[radiant sequoia]

external should be better range....

[visual mist]

Right but internal doesn't stand out as much...looks like an old blackberry, not something obviously different...hence my conundrum

Plus it's hard to shove a device with a 6+" whip antenna into my pocket 🤣

[radiant sequoia]

true

[tardy steeple]

https://store.rokland.com/products/lilygo-t-deck-portable-microcontroller-programmer-lora-915-mhz-h642?ref=yskzwcgr&variant=42122265690195

just get the external and a nubby

[visual mist]

Wish there was a way to have the internal active AND be able to attach something to the SMA for more range...best of both worlds scenario...

[tardy steeple]

https://zbm2industries.com/collections/antennas/Antennas

That company, right there is great antennas. He is actually a veteran and makes all his own stuff.

[visual mist]

https://store.rokland.com/products/alfa-aoa-915-2acm-2-dbi-omni-915mhz-802-11ah-mini-lora-antenna-meshtastic-n-male

I wonder how weird a T-deck would look with an N-type female connector and this pocket monster 🤣

[toxic shard]

Try clearing your device metrics for the node you're connected to

[toxic shard]

It may depend on what the mesh is like around you. If you're using this within an area with good coverage, there may be no practicle difference between internal and external for you. If you're in a marginal area or often mobile where this would be the only node for some ways, external might show a difference in usefulness. If you've got a good node outside your house and the T-Deck will mostly be used inside, you're fine with internal. Same for if you've got a good mobile node on your car and the T-Deck will be able to hit it. If you're backpacking and the nearest node is barely a whisper, you'd want the antenna.

For me the T-Deck is a novelty for my desk or end-table. I've got much better performing nodes nearby.

[tardy steeple]

But wait, there’s more

[toxic shard]

I saw, looks good. Wish they'd show it running meshtastic

@fierce moss your meshsense seems to weirdly call everything a "Message". In this screenshot I'd recently brought JWG2 back online and it seems loads of nodes are sending it, I presume, NodeInfo packets. Looks kind of surprising to see them all do that. I imagine this is some weirdness with your MQTT voodoo. Just sharing so you see it because it looked interesting to me:

[hidden timber]

anyone here have experience with the RAK INA219 DC current sensor and solar panels? how'd you connect it? do i just connect it inline between the solar panel & rak solar input with gnd & vin+ ?