US - Connecticut.

[toxic shard]

Gary's meshsense is hella useful 🙂

[fierce moss]

Yes

[toxic shard]

Thanks, sorry for the spam 🙂

[fierce moss]

No problem at all

[tardy steeple]

Agreed it just looks very weird on iPhone

[toxic shard]

meshsense is definitely a desktop web experience.

[tardy steeple]

Will every node show up on that mesh sense or just the ones that Gary gave a username and Pw too

[toxic shard]

everything Gary's stuff hears, mqtt or RF

[tardy steeple]

Not seeing my t1000e that’s why I was asking

[toxic shard]

Does your t1000e have "Ok to MQTT" enabled in the LoRa settings?

[tardy steeple]

No

[toxic shard]

then well behaved MQTT gateways won't pass it's traffic up

you want that turned on for what you're doing

It doesn't make your t1000e do MQTT, it marks your RF packets as being blessed for uplink

[tardy steeple]

I was told not to turn on ( Ok to Mqtt ) unless the device has WiFi

[toxic shard]

I think you might have been given mixed up advice or mixed messages

You want to not enable the MQTT module unless the device has wifi. The "Ok to MQTT" LoRa setting is about the content of RF packets

[tardy steeple]

Ya I’ll stick to discord . All the advice I’ve been given to on Facebook is legit all wrong

[toxic shard]

That's sad to hear

To be fair, this has all been changing pretty rapidly throughout 2024

"Ok to MQTT" marks your RF packets as having your permission to uplink them to the internet if someone who can do so hears them.

At a certain point in the recent firmwares, nodes started actually honoring that permission.

I'll be honest I barely understand this part and mostly learned it from Gary

The MQTT whisperer

[fierce moss]

Ha

Yea. You want OK to MQTT on for all nodes. And Ignore MQTT off

But only a single node should be linked to the mqtt server

We will find an RF path down to you eventually

[toxic shard]

Randomly I want to make a punchcard stack of a meshtastic message. Talk about pointless

I must stop myself before I look up punch card stuff on ebay. No, bad Unwin!

[void cape]

It’s cheaper to use a receipt printer. Don’t need to pay for toner!

I keep hitting random nodes in Mass and NY. It’s not all the nodes; wondering if we are seeing that sporadic reflection from the northern lights again.

We were forecasted R3 which means a decent level of HF interference

[toxic shard]

At 900mhz i'd bet the weird warming and cooling weather pattern is causing tropsopheric ducting or something, more than ionospheric stuff

but that is fully me blowing smoke out my sma

Could be the drones 😉

[void cape]

Maybe

Usually with planes it’s a boatload of nodes. But I am not seeing that behavior

[toxic shard]

Underlated to meshtastic, but i just got a new HF antenna tuner and my FT8 game is upped nicely.

[toxic shard]

yeah, agreed usually if someone is relaying from the air you get a whole bunch

Acording to Gary's meshsense, BS2 just went over the border

[void cape]

It has a tendency to take itself on international vacations.

[toxic shard]

Working on getting the 1c30 node's owner to join us in here. They're down in Southington or maybe it's the next town

[tardy steeple]

I got a Manchester NH and a Westfield NJ on my end

[toxic shard]

I wish the app had a filter by age on the map. In the node list you can filter by "Online", but the map not so much.

[graceful fox]

All good. Was it you that reached out on Mastodon?

[toxic shard]

Yup

[tardy steeple]

Thank you for the help . My t1000e now shows up on the mesh sense

Also looks nice on a laptop

[tardy steeple]

@fierce moss You said you had a board printed off and you soldered onto it . How hard is that too do ?

[potent ravine]

Here we go, down the 🐇 hole

[surreal sable]

Yeah my primary channel on all nodes is a private channel and logfast is secondary - ill have to double check that node in Bristol for config issues

[tardy steeple]

Nice

[fierce moss]

Do you have a soldering station?

[tardy steeple]

Nope

[fierce moss]

It’s not crazy hard if you can decently solder.

It’s definitely a skill set. And I’d say it’s not the best first soldering project. But I’m sure it’s doable

[void cape]

Through-hole soldering is not a difficult skill to build. Once you know how to avoid cold soldering joints it’s really easy to make connections. Making it look clean is a bit more difficult but it’s comparable to using a caulk gun or spreading glue evenly from a nozzle.

Having the right tools helps a lot too.

Soldering iron, solder, solder wick, solder sucker (vacuum style), some flux, and some clamps or pliers to hold the parts in place.

SMD soldering is hard though. It’s difficult to align parts, fix bridges, or do anything regarding IC’s.

There’s nice practice kits online but I’d recommend solder paste, hot air station, a hot plate, and patience.

I guess a reflow oven if you have the money lol

I learned SMD with something like this: https://a.co/d/j0Q6Mrh

[rare mulch]

The Pinecil soldering iron is the best (and somehow one of the least expenaove) soldering iron I have ever owned. $40 on the 'zon or $27 direct from pine64.com (but have to pay shipping.)

Just have to invest to get good quality solder and one of those little metal sponge tip cleaners, maybe a stand.

For solder I like kester 44 which is 63/37, rosin core, .8mm or smaller diameter. It feels like an investment buying a full roll- my last roll of it lasted me like 10 years.

I learned SMD soldering just taking old stuff apart.

But no custom PCB designs yet

[toxic shard]

Cool. Yours is the only node like that in range. If the docs were better or there was a preconfigured option I bet there’d be more. All good 👍🏻

[toxic shard]

I use my pinecil most often. Haven’t busted out the Hakko since.

[toxic shard]

Yesssssss

[void cape]

Huh, you like the pinecil that much?

I’m pretty satisfied with the hakko

[nimble vale]

Pinecil is great

[toxic shard]

Love my hakko, but it takes up desk space and I need to plug it into AC. The Pinecil is tiny and I can plug it into a modest power bank and use it portably.

If I had a lot to do I'd probably clear off space, get the hakko set up, etc. Or if I was doing something with a lot of mass. But for small work like I tend to have when doing meshtastic stuff, Pinecil is great

[fierce moss]

oh neat

never saw this Pinecil

looks nice

battery powered?

[tardy steeple]

If you do pick it up make sure you have a cord and a wall brick that can output 65w,

[tardy steeple]

Yes

The heating element is in the tip and does an excellent job for the price point probably equally if not better then mid tier

[rare mulch]

No battery inside but you can run it from one.

[fierce moss]

Gotcha

[rare mulch]

And has both a barrel plus and USB-c. I run mine off usb-c on the bench, or off a powerbank that does 20v when I'm playing with rc planes.

Or, any old 19v laptop adapter, assuming the right size barrel plug

[tardy steeple]

Just got another node on my map . It’s coming in from Jersey MQTT

[void cape]

Happy new year, y’all

[radiant sequoia]

To everyone!

[steady solar]

@toxic shard guess I received this on the 28th, I don't usually connect to my roof node

[toxic shard]

which node is that?

[tardy steeple]

Happy new year

[steady solar]

BLR1

[toxic shard]

Ahh. I sent that from G2 using MeshTXT but it didn't retain state so I'm not sure if I received an ack at the time or not. I recall I did from something Bantam Lake so that's cool. Been sending out test messages to a few nodes here and there to see what comes back

Mostly the berlin side

[toxic shard]

physics has entered the chat

[void cape]

It’s got to be a plane

I saw a bunch of PA as well.

It would be really nice if the hop count could be raised to the point that it can bounce around the entire CT/RI/Mass area but a hop count limit of 7 is very limiting in a topography such as ours

[tardy steeple]

Can a custom firmware bypass hop limit ?

[void cape]

Maybe? But everyone in the path would need to have it.

[steady solar]

I wonder why there's such a random arbitrary limit of 7 tbh

[toxic shard]

They recommend a hop count of 3, I think primarily because on LongFast the airtime budget is so tight.

We're a small mesh, user-wise, so we get away with 7, but in a denser mesh it could cause less messages to be received. They should make a video showing the effects of hop count so people get more intuition about it

Or perhaps have different hop count for different message types, not sure. I'd love to have message hop further, but i don't need to get updates on the battery status of every node in 100 miles, especially when it takes like a second to transmit on LongFast

[steady solar]

If you could have a different hop count on a per-channel basis that would be perfect

[toxic shard]

Gotta avoid thet tragedy of the commons. The ISM band is already a mess.

[rare mulch]

What is a PVEC node?

[jolly ruin]

https://pvmesh.org/pvec/

[toxic shard]

🙄

[sage scroll]

Hrum he's pretty far off still.

[toxic shard]

height is might

[sage scroll]

truth

[fierce moss]

Give me a yagi and I’ll bounce Meshtastic off the moon with a g2 lol

[toxic shard]

hehe

[steady solar]

@fierce moss Meshbot really just loves messaging me lol

[toxic shard]

Got a BBS node up. Really liking the MeshAdv Pi Hat. Wish it wasn't out of stock, I'd buy more.

It's like the Temu version of Gary's hat 😉

[fierce moss]

lol

[fierce moss]

Anytime you say Test. Yes lol

[steady solar]

Ugh

[toxic shard]

What's a good node to send you test messages on then?

[steady solar]

BLBS

[fierce moss]

Temu version? Yours is far fancier lol

[toxic shard]

how so?

[fierce moss]

Hell, I’m not even running the caps on mine

[toxic shard]

heh

yolo

[fierce moss]

Ha

[toxic shard]

Tried to get them exactly the same screenshot but this will have to do.

These are two WisMesh Pocket nodes. JW2 has a sort of folded dipole, and the other has a typical folding omni. They're right next to eachother on a table.

so that's JW2 laying down.

Point being, looking at that U.N.I.T. entry, which is direct and in town, at least in this spot the folded dipole was way worse.

Not scientific, just experimenting

In another test with JW2 upright (so antenna horizontal polarization):

9a18 -8.5db
JW2  -12.5db

(same remote node)

Other results not as dramatic

We need WSPR reporting for meshtastic 🙂

Was looking for a moxon when I found the folded "super 8" dipole, figured i'd test it out. RP-SMA 🤮

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard did you just connect the one I shipped to you ?

[toxic shard]

I think that's 9a18 maybe

[tardy steeple]

Thought I recognized the node id

[toxic shard]

I'll be honest, I don't keep track of where they come from. They're like tribbles. They just keep multiplying

[tardy steeple]

I have a log book of everything that comes in and goes for electronics

Serial number or other identification

I’m just not home .

[toxic shard]

Very diligent. I'm more jackson pollock with my device management

Other than looking mildly cool, I don't yet see any value in this super 8. I'm not motivated enough to throw it on the NanoVNA

maybe someday

[lucid forum]

It is not random, the usefulness of more hops decreases quickly, you should only use more than 3 if you know you need them

[tardy steeple]

Makes sense .

[steady solar]

What defines "usefulness"?

[lucid forum]

7 should still only be used where you need it

[lucid forum]

https://github.com/meshtastic/Meshtasticator

[toxic shard]

Thanks Garth. We should be getting better links here once the weather warms up and fewer hops will cover more ground

[steady solar]

Not seeing usefulness on there, but real world application - I have a friend who is 5, usually 6 hops from me and I would like to message him. I'd consider that useful 😂

[lucid forum]

The chart I posted is literally from the readme and is described there.

[steady solar]

I see that but the use case for high hops as described makes sense though, no?

[lucid forum]

The use case for a higher hop limit is very narrow, you described 3 as random, which it is not.

[steady solar]

Gotcha, thanks

[void cape]

I think the biggest issue is that the hop count is indiscriminate towards some aspects of why a message should be forwarded. I think part of it is that most nodes are not designed to store historical messages and determine routing from prior trace contexts.

A mesh that is not blind to this should in theory be able to forward packets much like the AT&T long lines system did.

Meshtastic could have a setting for a static vs mobile node that helps it decide if it should use passive neighbor discovery to direct packets at a destination, rather than using timing and delay intervals.

If the node is mobile, it can request static neighbors for a path and provide last-resort packet relay capabilities if so configured.

[toxic shard]

I could see a class of more powerful nodes that are less concerned with battery power being developed to support ideas such as that. But it’s tricky because the market is barely big enough to support glorified dev boards

[marsh lance]

Howdy neighbors

[toxic shard]

Hey EBJ

Where abouts are you? What nodes can you see directly without hops?

[void cape]

It really wouldn’t take much more to have routing information gossiping. If these devices had SD card support you could store telemetry as well. I envision that you would have different types of nodes depending upon location and power availability. Many of us have larger batteries and solar at our base station that could communicate a hop or two to the next base station across lighter nodes that rely on the routers to gossip their node lists and routes

[steady solar]

Speaking of batteries, I have 2 plain jane 18650s in my solar node and it hasn't even gotten close to 80% all winter. Was a bit worried but seems like more would be overkill

[tardy steeple]

Nice .

@fierce moss

When I type out test in the Meshtastic app I get a direct message auto reply in my notifications

However when I go to search the app I can’t find that message .

I click the notification.

It ends up being blank .

Click back button . App crashes and closes .

It did clear out my “ 2 “ unread messages notification tho

[rare mulch]

The chip on the Rak boards can only track the voltage for one input, so it's the "average" of the two cells. If they are not perfectly matched then one might be pulling them both down together. You could add a balancing circuit, or you could try to find two cells that match better.

[steady solar]

Yeah the bot is super sensitive to words being sent, is it possible to require a prefix? I've gotten DM'd a few times just for talking normally in LongFast lol

[tardy steeple]

I understand that and all I was just referring to that when I go to search it, it doesn’t show up in my app and then when I click on the note manually it doesn’t show and then when I clicked the back button and the whole entire app just crashes

[steady solar]

I'd imagine that since they're both the same battery and charged to the max equally it should be at least fairly accurate

[steady solar]

Yeah that's weird. I was just referring to your first bit about getting messaged by the bot heh

[fierce moss]

sup

[fierce moss]

What words has it responded to? i can look. I was going to be looking at updating it soonish anyway

i didnt notice Ghost was also using GF as his prefix lol

[steady solar]

"mqtt messages 👀"
And any message that contains the word test

[fierce moss]

ok

[tardy steeple]

I can change mine . Not an issue let me know .

[toxic shard]

Short memory 🙂

[fierce moss]

We probably shouldnt both use the same shortname prefix lol

[tardy steeple]

If you scroll up I was having issues with the bot . I said test and I got a response and then it’s not in my messages .

I click the app notification and it’s blank and then I click arrow back and

Crashed

[fierce moss]

i mean that's definitely just a generic client issue

nothing to do with the bot

iOS?

[tardy steeple]

Yes iOS

[fierce moss]

i find the iOS client just slightly more stable than the web

i have issues with it too

android is the best overall

[tardy steeple]

Im actually looking online right now at android devices just for Meshtastic

I’m not sure if I want to do a basic phone or a basic tablet

[fierce moss]

do a tablet.

dont need a giant one

nicer to work on, and as itll always be an "extra device" when you take it somewhere, it may as well be larger

plus, you'll really like it to talk to any TCP nodes

can leave it on and plugged in. keep it on your desk on a little stand.

[toxic shard]

I've got a OnePlus Nord N30 for android stuff mostly. I've got access to more advanced stuff at work but this is my "AT&T failed again" alternative carrier device

I think the UX of the android app is very confusing, but that's certainly a bias from mostly using the Apple side of things. My favorite client is MeshSense and MeshTXT. The iOS / macOS app has a lot of bugs right now, I've seen the behavior @tardy steeple is describing before. Usually killing the app fixes it, but sometimes i need to pair to another device and back. I think once I had to delete the app and reinstall. I haven't had that issue in quite a while. Make sure the node firmware is up to date.

My main current bugs are long-press, Message, end up on the public channel rather than the node I selected. Go back to nodes, be on a different node.

They did some UI rearanging in the second half of 2024 on macOS, I think, and not a fan. But not "not a fan" enough to contribute code, so I can't gripe too much.

That nav bar at the top is an eww change. But maybe it made the code between iOS and macOS more similar, dunno.

The fact the middle" select a node" is empty is a fun bug. SwiftUI.... it just works....

Sometimes it feels like it's not used for actual communication node-to-node

I mean...

I wonder how big our mesh is relative to others. I know SoCal has a big mesh. I'm sure the Bay Area does.

[tardy steeple]

Tennessee is pretty big

[toxic shard]

I need to get down there sometime. Once on a road trip through Ohio I accidentally ended up in Kentucky. That's the closest i've been.

[tardy steeple]

I’ve been all over the place . I hate hotels . lol

[toxic shard]

Hotels are only good for making you appreciate your own bed

[tardy steeple]

Living in hotel isn’t fun . Especially when they are not designed for long term

256 nights not fun at all .

In extended stay hotels it’s nice with cool surfaces and an area to relax .

stays with just a bed and a desk not fun at all .

And I work for Marriott

Now they are doing away with desks too

[toxic shard]

booo

[tardy steeple]

It was fun a few weeks ago .

They called the police on me

I was in the Carolina’s and and I had node parts , wires , boards everywhere

They called in a “ concerned report “

A55holes

[toxic shard]

heh #notabomb

[tardy steeple]

The hotel is literal trash

Mold in room , mold everywhere

Pool broken

Hot tub thing broken

I called my property management and said I absolutely refuse to work at that location and it needs more help then we can provide

If yall ever go to Gastonia NC don’t stay at any hotels in Gastonia . Go to Belmont NC

[toxic shard]

I've never heard of either place, but good to know

[void cape]

Hahaha. Verizon is so much better

Honestly though. I have dual sim with both cell providers and Verizon’s coverage is so much better.

[void cape]

I really like the home suite style. A bit more space, a kitchen with dishes, and a real fridge and freezer. Booked one for the eclipse last year for a few days.

It even had a nice couch and tv

[fierce moss]

Verizon just covers CT better period

[toxic shard]

That's weird.

DONT is my node previously known as JW+. This screenshot is of Gary's meshsense

[fierce moss]

When did you change it?

[toxic shard]

The name?

[tardy steeple]

It took about 2/3 hours to get mine on there

[toxic shard]

It's not clear what that is yet. Could be a repeater, could just be bad data.

But the possibility of a repeater is why I renamed my node to help guide whomever to better mode choices

Unrelated, the new f608 node is a coworker I lent some nodes to who now has his own. We'd talked about him a few months ago, I forget where exactly he was

But up there in them thar hills

[toxic shard]

https://store.rokland.com/products/lowmesh-pocket-s-portable-solar-node-compatible-withmeshtastic-915-mhz?mc_cid=18f8f953ef&mc_eid=9e1fb6935d

[steady solar]

That's interesting, I have a Verizon cell through work and my personal is at&t (both pixel 9 pro) and in northwestern Connecticut, overall I get better service with AT&t

[steady solar]

Just saw that email, hundred bucks and they can't even make it weatherproof

When one comes out that's at minimum weather resistant and has an external antenna option, I'm in. But for now printer go brrr

[void cape]

I don’t think these devices necessarily benefit from an external antenna

At least, not one that you’d find in my pocket or purse or something

[toxic shard]

Mostly with you on that. My main disappointment is the lack of weatherproofing. If it's clipped to a backpack it's going to live a harder life than a pocket node

[void cape]

I honestly doubt it will be an issue. I throw nodes in my backpack all the time and they are fine.

It’s like, you spend a few minutes hitting it with an oil coating or put some glue in the cracks and call it a day. It literally looks 3D printed

PLA will hold out water, just add a small amount of glue or make a version with an o ring

Tbh, I’d rather design something myself and omit the dinky solar panel that will do zip for the node and install a sensor that does air pressure and air quality since pressure can be used for altitude estimates.

[void cape]

There’s nothing particularly innovative about this product

[calm dawn]

Harsh man

[void cape]

Heh, yeah I realized that

[calm dawn]

Design and release a better one 😉

[void cape]

I’m tempted!

[craggy vigil]

Anyone heard of LowMesh™ before?

[toxic shard]

It’s a new brand

[craggy vigil]

Looks like they kept it stealth until today. I ordered one to check it out. "LowMesh" is not showing up on my google search or the USPTO for the trademark.

[tardy steeple]

Kinds looks like something I saw in a what’s app chat a few weeks ago .

[craggy vigil]

https://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResults?InquiryType=EntityName&InquiryDirectionType=PreviousRecord&SearchTerm=LOWMAN GOLF%2C LLC&SearchNameOrder=LOWMEZ L230004918830&ListNameOrder=LOWMANSENTERPRISESGROUP P030001300850&Detail=FL.DOS.Corporations.Shared.Contracts.FilingRecord

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stsardounis

[tardy steeple]

He posted about 5 months ago about it on linked in. He owns https://www.senospace.com/

website and linked in didn’t offer any info I remember seeing it

[toxic shard]

Creepy

J/k lol

[tardy steeple]

🤣

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard

@craggy vigil

Correct, the 4631 is the core module running the nRF52840 and SX1262. The product uses a custom PCB with a custom trace antenna that was tuned for the case and has great RF performance. The Pocket-S and all products developed by #LowMesh use the NTC on the battery for preventing charging during thermal issues. Attached is a photo of the PCB.

[void cape]

Oh, it has pads for an SMA antenna. So you could totally add an external antenna

Just move R17 to R23

It strikes me as poor design that U4 is so far away from U1. I’d think it would be best to have those leads as short as possible.

[toxic shard]

two more models coming:

[radiant sequoia]

Josh you prebought the Altavox Beacon, did you select an antenna with it or no?

[tardy steeple]

Wow on the hops !

[tardy steeple]

Weeeeeee

[toxic shard]

Probably MQTT not handling it properly

[tardy steeple]

He said the android beta allows 50

I don’t own a android to even try haha

[toxic shard]

Gary likes to use the Android development environment to run a virtual android device. Not sure if that'd work outside of an IP connection to the node.

[radiant sequoia]

3db over the higher?

probably so it's not so flat....

[tardy steeple]

Would putting a node on a buoy help connect CT to NY ?

[rare mulch]

You mean Long Island?

[fierce moss]

You’d need height still.

And yea, android studio virtual machine works great.

[gilded mango]

I’m up on the escarpment behind Bridgeport and am mostly line of sight to LI. My antenna will be at 500’asl. But I am running on 70cm

[tardy steeple]

No I mean NY . Port Jefferson to be exact . Bridgeport CT to Port Jefferson NY

[errant minnow]

I've sat on Stratford Point with a 6 element yagi and was able to hit 2 nodes from Rocky Point, Long Island, NY without a problem.

[toxic shard]

nice

[toxic shard]

now I'm picturing a node on an offshore wind turbine, or on top of a ferry

[tardy steeple]

Anyone in here have a sense cap indicator ?

[toxic shard]

I ordered one on 12/10/2024 but haven't gotten it yet

[toxic shard]

Where did you see this?

[tardy steeple]

Over in #general

[toxic shard]

Thanks, I don't usually monitor general, too much there. I see the notice on this webpage too https://wiki.seeedstudio.com/sensecap_indicator_meshtastic/

[tardy steeple]

I don’t either it’s usually too much . If I see something important I try to post here .

[toxic shard]

Back in stock https://www.etsy.com/listing/1849074257/?ref=share_ios_native_control

[tardy steeple]

Question for you how do you use it or program it?

[toxic shard]

You put it on a raspberry pi and then install the native Linux MeshtasticD service

So the pi runs the Meshtastic “firmware” via a virtual “portduino” node. Then you can interface with it using various tools. This is what I’m using for my bbs node.

[tardy steeple]

How hard would that be to set up?

I’m just asking because I know somebody who did something like that, but I have no experience .

[toxic shard]

If you can manage a command line interface or running Linux, you can make it work pretty easily. I found the instructions to be good.

But it’s definitely more of a power user option

[fierce moss]

It’s not terribly hard.

[toxic shard]

It took me about 5 minutes to get running. It’s pretty easy if you follow the instructions and can log into your pi over the network or locally using a keyboard mouse and monitor

[fierce moss]

You can install the gui version of raspbian too to make it easier

[fierce moss]

What’s it do?

[tardy steeple]

Any raspberry pies or just like certain models

[tardy steeple]

It’s not transmitting on long fast the same problem that the T114V1 had

[fierce moss]

What’s your goal?

With the pi?

Poe? Running additional software? 1 watt?

[tardy steeple]

Just to have a node up and going more or less nothing fancy

[fierce moss]

You’ll want to do fancier things with it.

It’s a full pc with meshtastic

Grab a low end pi4

Cheap and super capable

It’ll be a really good learning tool too. Learning even basic Linux is crazy useful

[tardy steeple]

I have Raspberry Pi Zero WH - 1GHz CPU, 512MB RAM, Pre-Soldered GPIO, Wi-Fi would this work ?

[tardy steeple]

I’ve played around with Ubuntu and Linux mint previously haven’t messed with it in years tho

[toxic shard]

I think it would work but it’s be an awkward setup since it’s a full size hat and the zero is smaller. A regular pi 4 is the way to go.

Pi 5 is overkill and some stuff still hasn’t been updated to work with the 5, so better off with the 4

[tardy steeple]

Yeah, I figured I asked because I ordered one and three showed up

[toxic shard]

Electronically it will work, but it will be a challenge to have a robust enclosure installation.

[tardy steeple]

Highly doubt it Work in that case with a hat, right

[fierce moss]

You’ll want to print a case. Or get one designed for a hat

[void cape]

I would actually recommend the Pi5 over the Pi4 because the 5 generally comes with a fan and heatsink which greatly improves the overall experience with the device. It has a dedicated fan header too

I think it’s low profile enough that you can still use hats.

I use it for direction finding and it’s night and day performance difference.

[tardy steeple]

Gonna drive out to microcenter tomorrow

[tardy steeple]

Ya POE

[fierce moss]

get a Pi4, 4gb

youll be able to do whatever you want with it

and, to not conflict with the e22 hat, i personally recommend using a PoE splitter rather than the PoE hat

it's also cheaper

i have Pis with the PoE hat. they work well. but i dont like stacking hats unless you have to

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CHW5K5F4?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1

$15

[tardy steeple]

I typed out raspberry pi in a Meshtastic group on Facebook and I believe I came across your build .

[fierce moss]

probably 🙂

i was the first person to have the e22 running in proof of concept at the time

i like my base station build. it's versatile

[tardy steeple]

Yeah, it definitely was you cause it had wires going everywhere.

[fierce moss]

lol

[fierce moss]

yea

[tardy steeple]

Nice case

[fierce moss]

ty

its custom

modified an old one in cad

im 99% sure i posted it on thingiverse

the poe splitter i just designed a clip that would apply pressure and screw in.

[toxic shard]

If you want to do SDR stuff, or use the desktop gui for real work, Pi 5 is the way to go but be prepared for some stuff to not work (yet?). If you're doing more command-line, background task stuff like running MeshtasticD or some other service software interfacing with it, Pi 4 is solid. For a long time it was hard to get any Pi's. It's nice to see them accessible again.

[tardy steeple]

https://sixfab.com/product/raspberry-pi-indoor-project-enclosure/?aelia_cs_currency=USD&gad_source=1

[toxic shard]

We used a bunch of these cases for a project, might not be available anymore. Pricey but very nice https://www.adafruit.com/product/5040

[fierce moss]

those are fine. just insane in price

for twice that you can get a cheap 3d printer...

[toxic shard]

Used them with one of these https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/automation-hat-mini?variant=31478878077011

[tardy steeple]

I had a few 3D printers ( bambu) and when the flooding in the valley happened over the summer they all went swimming .

[fierce moss]

ahh

[tardy steeple]

I just liked that case as it has the spaces for the antennas already

[fierce moss]

yea. most cases have small holes though. or the side hole for GPIO

or just take a drill to it for 2 seconds lol

[toxic shard]

Now that's a trace

d940 to Mulligan and back

[tardy steeple]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

[toxic shard]

I've got two station G2s using the stock antennas. One has a cavity filter in place (on the right). It's definitely picking up more nodes with less hops. Sometimes the SNR shows evidence of being better, sometimes it's a wash. But it definitely seems to hear better overall.

They're about 8 feet apart in the middle of a big building. This is not a scientific trial, but it's interesting.

(that's with this filter https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803672148894.html)

I'd like to repeat this with them both out in open air, near but not too close.

But it's cold outside 😉

[tardy steeple]

No filter SNR:0.25 RSSI:-107.

Filter SNR: 4.50 RSSI:-107.

My filter

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mORgfvN

[toxic shard]

Nice, I've got one of those for further testing at home

[tardy steeple]

Someone told me to get this for POE as it adds a fan and then I can stack the hats

[toxic shard]

The fan isn't going to do much with another hat on top of it

(or below it)

[tardy steeple]

True

[toxic shard]

I mean, if it was pi->poe->lora it might get some cooling but it won't be AS good

[tardy steeple]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4611538/comments

[toxic shard]

This is the PoE hat I recently ordered for a non-meshtastic Pi 5 project, since it adds an m.2 slot too https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DFYL9F7S

[toxic shard]

interesting take

[tardy steeple]

https://muzi.works/blogs/in-the-lab/h1-case-design-update-v3-2-board

[tardy steeple]

This blacked out battery is nice

[tardy steeple]

Didn’t see it . I had a buddy print off the rak mount you had .

I looked on a few sites and people are recommending a raspberry pi case with a a vesa mount

[toxic shard]

vesa mounts are nice for putting on the back of TVs. I used a pi vesa mount to affix one into one of those outdoor enclosers we like with the grid plate inside. The pi mounted to the vesa plate, and that plate mounted to the grid. Good enough for government work.

[tardy steeple]

https://www.printables.com/model/182207-raspberry-pi-4-case-bottom-with-vesa-mount-remix

https://www.printables.com/model/158651-raspberry-pi-4-case-with-100m-x-100m-vesa-mount

[toxic shard]

nice

[tardy steeple]

I saw those and figured they would work in an enclosure

[toxic shard]

For reference this is what I used https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BX2BVWB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[tardy steeple]

I’m trying to find these enclosures local

[toxic shard]

This is the last one I got, there's loads like it https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08B5QN2LS

[nimble vale]

Maybe electrical wholesalers

[tardy steeple]

I won’t buy anything from amazon .

[toxic shard]

Ok

[tardy steeple]

Worked both in warehouse and delivery .

Treated like complete shit 💩

Also, just in my opinion, they’re closing every local business and mom and Pop shop

[toxic shard]

I thought Walmart already did that

[tardy steeple]

And there’s so many products on Amazon that are being sold from third parties that are just literal trash. They’re just all rebranded stuff coming out of the same factory being sold on Alibaba to 20 different people. They’re putting 20 different brand names on it. It’s absolutely ridiculous. it’s a counterfeit cesspool.

[toxic shard]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Waterproof-Outdoor-Electrical-Box-Convenient-Accessible-Outdoor-Enclosure-Weatherproof-Dustproof-Cover-Simple-Install/13610755494?classType=REGULAR&from=/search

You can buy direct from someone like Polycase, but you'll need to do the legwork to find the sort of enclosure you want https://www.polycase.com/wq-42

Bud Industries makes great enclosures, pricy.

Home Depot sells Vevor, which isn't much better than random-letters amazon brands, but at least it's pronouncable. https://www.homedepot.com/p/VEVOR-Electrical-Junction-Box-16-93-x-12-99-x-7-09-in-ABS-Plastic-Electrical-Enclosure-Box-Hinged-Cover-Stainless-Steel-Latch-SLJXHABS16X1GLKCVV0/330552930

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard the other day you mentioned you were testing your cavity what would I need to test like the signal strength and stuff like that?

[toxic shard]

I was looking for it to offer better SNR than the control node in the test. It also showed fewer hops meaning it picked out stuff the control node did not.

There's almost certainly a more regorous, proper way to do it

[tardy steeple]

I mean some people on YouTube will tell you about spurious emissions

lol

[void cape]

Faraday cases, circulators, attenuators, and other fun RF gadgets would be used during say FCC testing

https://jretest.com/product/jre-0709-p/

https://www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dashboard.html?model=RUDAT-6000-90&srsltid=AfmBOoqCCWh5NyHdOYzzvzhoGaWf9HJ-49uTCPcXq8qvISUEOsOs9Tll

[craggy vigil]

I am one of them - Thanks for the heads up!

[tardy steeple]

Interesting

[void cape]

Using an attenuator, you would basically omit the antenna and just make measurements

[steady solar]

I thought router_client was removed in 2.5+, yet eagle3 has it on?

I think there's a mini mesh going on south of great Barrington, Norfolk and North Canaan area, but no one has their locations on

A few months ago there was nothing in my usual spots, got several connections today from a fairly bad location

[toxic shard]

It was made to be the same behavior as client. If eagle3 hasn't changed their device mode it would still show RC until they do. But the firmware treats it as just another name for client.

[steady solar]

Ohh gotcha, I thought it was removed entirely. That's why I was confused about the fact that it was 2.5+ with the role

[toxic shard]

the apps have been updated to not offer it. In the app it might just say client. I"m not sure.

[void cape]

I’ve driven through Kent and Goshen before.. I don’t think I saw anything with low hop counts besides GAF

[void cape]

Plane

[toxic shard]

What did you see? Run any traces?

[steady solar]

Unfortunately I was only in the area for a couple of hours, on my way out. I tried to run a trace or two but they failed

[craggy vigil]

LowMesh has arrived. Comes with a SMA connector that you can install yourself.

[tardy steeple]

Would be nice if the post office would stop sending mine back
To Florida lol

Went from Florida to NY , back to Florida , to Ny and now it’s back in SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTION CENTER

[void cape]

It probably got damaged

[tardy steeple]

I built 4 nodes for someone in PR . Post office never delivered it . Not too happy .

Hopefully the missing mail search finds it .

[radiant sequoia]

Is there a good parts list anywhere for a nice solar build? or anyone have a good list?

[void cape]

If you search the chat history there’s a video or two that have parts lists

[tardy steeple]

https://youtu.be/aERB-IgHERM?si=lmRz2_bsPlr1sBT6

https://youtu.be/_h3UluaqfTw?si=muGJ_qNWhCDZC0vX

[radiant sequoia]

Thanks guys...

[sage scroll]

I used this as a reference and printed a mount that hangs everything off the antenna for easy mounting. https://meshtastic.org/docs/community/enclosures/rak/harbor-breeze-solar-hack/

[fierce moss]

i like that

[tardy steeple]

Looks nice

[sage scroll]

Actually had to pull it off the roof today due to a botched OTA update. Here’s a shot inside, you are able to squeeze 2 18650 batteries in the housing which allows for a few no sun days with ease.

[tardy steeple]

I would highly recommend wrapping those batteries

[sage scroll]

why is that?

[tardy steeple]

The metal is exposed .

[sage scroll]

The negative on the bottom of the battery has been fine. The case is sealed and has been out in the elements for 6+ months and looks like new still.

[tardy steeple]

I’ve seen these batteries vent . Usually with mechanical vaping mods . The entire cell is negative. Just the top is positive.

[sage scroll]

Yep, I know. I use 18650's in a bunch of projects and have not had issues. The only part I was worried about was between the RAK board and the charging circuit. I have a layer of kapton table between those 2.

[sage scroll]

My only issue here is height... I'm in a bit of a valley. The other node I have setup gets much better coverage but I have no way to bridge the gap at the moment.

[jolly ruin]

i've done a couple of these harbor breeze solar builds now as well. shout out to unwin for the battery protection boards. no issues no far. price dropped to 10 bucks each on the lights until march so picked up a few more. quick cheap solar node.

[sage scroll]

Nice!!

[jolly ruin]

going to try the rak mini i think next time

[sage scroll]

The RAK mini would really clean things up for me, I may try that on a future project.

[toxic shard]

Ordered some rak mini kits to try that

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard

Are messages not going to or from ?

[toxic shard]

you're not seeing all the messages

[tardy steeple]

Guess not

[toxic shard]

someone is having trouble with their heltec v3, i was trying to help

they may not have set "ok to mqtt" which would keep their messages from reaching you

[tardy steeple]

Was he trying to update it ?

[toxic shard]

he is, but the comm port isn't showing up for him

or something. I dunno, Unwin == Not Win-dows

[tardy steeple]

Mine wouldn’t do anything until I disconnected the battery

[toxic shard]

I saw that tip online and told him. He said it didn't have a battery

i told him to try another cable, he said he had. I recommended asking for help on discord

[toxic shard]

That "Hi" was because of an iOS app bug where I select "Message" on a node but it sends it on the public channel instead

[tardy steeple]

Didn’t know that .

[toxic shard]

yeah, if "ok to mqtt" is not enabled, devices on the official firmware will honor that flag and not pass it on to mqtt

[tardy steeple]

My node has changed name and the other guy down here said he can’t see nodes

[void cape]

You probably want “via Lora” on

[tardy steeple]

It’s not connecting to Gary’s mqtt trying to diagnose what’s going on .

Moved router closer to device and rebooted

[void cape]

Mmm

The serial cable can tell you if the WiFi connected I think

[tardy steeple]

It’s online on my network . I can access it over WiFi

[tardy steeple]

@fierce moss Is there an issue with the mqtt service ?

I’ve checked my device . Re booted it . Disconnected it . It doesn’t seem to re receiving anything from your end I guess.

[fierce moss]

Umm. Let me take a look

[radiant sequoia]

gary, can we interface with your server vs the regular public one? Any benefit or just local CT traffic?

[toxic shard]

I think it's mostly for "we wish we had an RF link working but we don't yet". Gary also uplinks to the online maps so you don't lose that data. But MQTT also brings in its own issues, especially if there are nodes around that are not being kept updated.

Right now that's mostly for Ghostface's stuff down by the shore, and occationally i'll link up if Gary needs to reach GFR2.

Codefast is also linked in from the WeHa area but I think we're close on RF for that.

[tardy steeple]

Nothing is working down this way

[toxic shard]

It was working recently

[tardy steeple]

Not sure if it’s my set up

Mqtt

Gary’s stuff

[toxic shard]

Luckily this room is stacked with IT pros

[toxic shard]

Here's some of what was on the channel

(that's from d490 OCTO G2)

[tardy steeple]

We are getting nothing down here

[radiant sequoia]

"IT Pros".... hahahahhahaa

[fierce moss]

yea what Unwin said

i just rebooted the mqtt broker if you want to test again ghost, but it did look like it was up

i can help troubleshoot after work

[tardy steeple]

I don’t know maybe it’s my device. I have no idea. I pulled the battery. I rebooted it. Put the battery back in. Updated the software shut down my Wi-Fi router plug that back in. Nothing seems to be working, but I’ll be home in about 10 minutes.

[fierce moss]

but yea, im providing the bridge just for CT traffic. I relay just the map data info out to the two largest map services

but its only really for connections that we have a hope of connecting in via real RF eventually

to keep the community moving forward

or if a local radio enthusiast who is close but literally lives in a pit wants to be part of it

but even those, we will figure out how to hit them with RF!

thats the goal

[fierce moss]

Ghost, 1736796020: New client connected from (redactingyourIP):64666 as !33602d74 (p2, c1, k15, u'ghostfacemuffin').

1736796024: New connection from (redactingmyIP):50314 on port 1883.

that was immediately after the reboot

[tardy steeple]

So I downgraded to like 2.4 something and then restored again

Then did a full 2.5.15 update with website ui twice

Now it’s working

[radiant sequoia]

I got it

[tardy steeple]

All my nodes have no issues . It’s always the tbeams

Now I have to update my rak board after I find my wires to jump it lol

[toxic shard]

interestingly Soren and W1ERB received your test in Berlin, but I didn't receive it in Bristol (above screenshot is from Plainville)

[tardy steeple]

Neither did my node that’s 25 feet away

[void cape]

That’s surprising; my tbeams are rock solid usually

I never MQTT with them though; perhaps that’s part of the issue

[void cape]

About half of these don’t make it to Harwinton

Here’s what I get on the Station G2

Huh. Why would it not tell me that was R2D2?

How does it give me a different name entirely?

Interesting; in the app it says it only has partial node info

[tardy steeple]

About to build this

[void cape]

For some reason the first thing that came to mind seeing that in a gigantic Lego was covert child oriented radio propagation testing.

“I don’t need a kid tracking app.. they just carry around their favorite Lego brick everywhere!”

[toxic shard]

Do we have N1YLO Andrzej from Berlin in here?

[fervent sky]

not sure

[toxic shard]

Eric I see you sending "F" regularly. Is that a test of some sort?

(like maybe daily, bit less)

[fervent sky]

My T114 missed node info but the V3 in the basement received it.

[fervent sky]

F is just test

[toxic shard]

Gotcha. I thought maybe it was a meme 😉 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_F_to_pay_respects

Ugg, I've got rak boards I want to DFU but as soon as the macOS permissions box pops up it closes.

[tardy steeple]

I’m having a brain fart .

I’m trying to put a hole in my enclosure to have usb access what’s it called

[toxic shard]

i can't think of a name for that

[tardy steeple]

Me either

[toxic shard]

"access port"

[tardy steeple]

I think the power goes the wrong way on this ?

[toxic shard]

for the type of devices we use for nodes, it won't care. That'd be fine

for most USB C to USB C cables, even "male" to "female" like that, it won't actually care which direction is the power source

Those are just dumb connectors. I doubt that even has an e-marker chip at all

[tardy steeple]

I thought I had everything measured .

Back to the drawing board lol

I need a little more room for the connections .

Also the ipex to sma make is like 1/2 short

[fierce moss]

Grommet ?

or Gland

maybe you mean Gland?

[void cape]

It’s called a panel mount but there are variations on the name depending on how it’s presented and mounted.

[void cape]

If you mount the filter diagonally you might get enough space for connectors.

[fierce moss]

Yea it looks like there’s def enough room and a solution

[void cape]

It’s a pretty deep box. You could Velcro the POE adapter to the side wall above the filter. It doesn’t need to be against the back of the box

[tardy steeple]

I tried that and have no room for the poe

[tardy steeple]

Didn’t think of that . Anywho I ordered a new one .

[void cape]

shrug there’s always iteration in these sorts of things.. nbd

[tardy steeple]

The comms channel figured it out for me in a few minutes.

[toxic shard]

how so?

[toxic shard]

@fierce moss Testing a new node and seeing that weird "in my house" behavior with TF&G, first time I've noticed that. Doesn't really mean anything, still no idea what's going on, but interesting.

[tardy steeple]

Gotta jump it

ISo what you need to do it get a 2pin header and a header jumper. The 2 pin header will go into the GND and BOOTO holes on the RAK19007 board. Put on the header jumper to connect the GND and BOOTO holes together and push the reset button.

https://github.com/meshtastic/meshtastic/issues/1483

[toxic shard]

Thanks for the info

[fierce moss]

So wierd

[tardy steeple]

@radiant sequoia

I found another list of parts that’s pretty solid

Great detailed documentation on everything used as well.

https://www.austinmesh.org/devices/#parts-list

[radiant sequoia]

Thank you...

[tardy steeple]

Hopefully I’ll have my node up tomorrow . Don’t have the correct size drill bit for my antenna .

Not sure the size however the biggest one I have is 1/2 in

Chat gpt said

A 13.5 mm hole is approximately 0.531 inches (13.5 ÷ 25.4).

In imperial sizes, the closest standard drill bit is 17/32 inch (0.53125 inches), which is nearly identical to 13.5 mm. This should work perfectly for your hole.

[toxic shard]

Good LowMesh Pocket-S details in this comment https://youtube.com/watch?v=lH_S5qqnqOU&lc=UgxMlV2Ppap4iVD4DHx4AaABAg&si=Rphc2JXk3qzC9GCm

[tardy steeple]

I opened mine earlier thought it was weird . One wire just chilling inside .

[toxic shard]

Ask about it on the video, I bet he'll explain it

[toxic shard]

https://github.com/meshtastic/Meshtastic-Apple/issues/995

https://github.com/meshtastic/Meshtastic-Apple/commit/e1f2e34c2e29dc894fd7b687c448009bb03f67d0

[jolly ruin]

That's pretty cool, makes me think of notifications in general. would be cool to get pinged when it sees certain nodes, or hasn't seen a node in X hours or something

[toxic shard]

Bit hard to do in the app, but something like MeshBot or your own integration could send you a message separately when events like that happen. "Looks like Gordon is on the Mountain, again"

Or maybe it could be done with app intents or other on-phone scripting/shortcuts

[tardy steeple]

Trying to figure out how to get a hole big enough in my enclosure . The one I had , had three in it already .

[toxic shard]

Step drill bit

[toxic shard]

Tempting

[radiant sequoia]

wtf are critical alerts...

oh I see...

weird..

[toxic shard]

This bell thing I think

Basically tying that feature in Meshtastic to the critical alert feature in iOS

[toxic shard]

GFMS -> cfex -> MLS1 -> 1c90 -> cftr -> MTHR -> GFR2 -> G2 -> DONT

that's... roundabout

hehehe

😭

[gilded mango]

@tardy steeple let me know what dumpster 😁

[toxic shard]

GMFS -> cfex -> MLS2 -> !6c72fb9c (ML2, haven't gotten their nodeinfo yet) -> cftr -> MTHR -> GFR2 -> G2 -> DONT

quite a little jaunt around west hartford in the middle there lol

[steady solar]

https://meshtastic.org/blog/meshtastic-site-planner-introduction/

[steady solar]

Ok where'd you get that sticker 😂

[tardy steeple]

I’ve tried that doesn’t seem to work on eye phone

[steady solar]

Hmm works fine on android

[tardy steeple]

https://share.temu.com/WILAR3e9QXC

Gotta get some Velcro or something and get that splitter situated

[steady solar]

Could use some improvement, seems like when you set up multiple sites you can't just hide them, can only remove

That cavity filter is a lot smaller than I thought it was hah

[tardy steeple]

I wanted to go with https://shop.airframes.io/products/lora-915mhz-filter

however I’m very impatient and don’t like waiting for stuff

Over 90 days out minimum

[toxic shard]

This is cool, thanks for sharing

[tardy steeple]

Does it work for you ?

[toxic shard]

i was able to do a run from my location

[radiant sequoia]

@tardy steeple have you had good luck with the Acasom's?

[toxic shard]

Maybe... maybe don't advertise who you are and what flight you violated FAA rules on 🤦

[tardy steeple]

What’s being violated ?

[toxic shard]

I'm pretty sure ISM transmissions fall under the same rules as ham radio or cell calls

but I can't cite the reg

[tardy steeple]

It seems to be working better just stricky going off traces routes and what not . I don’t have “ proper “ testing equipment “ tho .

[tardy steeple]

Yeah, I couldn’t figure out anything on my phone. I probably have to bust out my tablet or a laptop and see if I can do anything on that.

[toxic shard]

I'd use a desktop browser

it's an intense page

[tardy steeple]

Makes sense .

[radiant sequoia]

I ordered two to play with/test... we shall see...

[void cape]

Is there a ham radio contest going on today? The Hudson valley in New York was hopping with folks. Made like 3 contacts and heard several others on 146.52

[tardy steeple]

Now I wait for my raspberry pi’s

[toxic shard]

Not that I can see https://www.contestcalendar.com/weeklycont.php

[void cape]

Weird! There was certainly a lot of activity going on over there

Next weekend there’s apparently a big event and tomorrow there’s a POTA activation in the park along the Taconic near Hopewell Junction

It could have been a band opening because there were a lot of folks with directional antennas

Trying to reach stations I couldn’t hear

[toxic shard]

Next weekend is winter field day. I’m not doing the intense outdoor field deployment, but I’ll be operating my club shack from indoors.

[void cape]

I’ll be on 2m for the time I’m in my car (at least 2 hours each day) so maybe that’ll count for something for someone’s contact.

[toxic shard]

It would only count if you also logged the contact exchange and submitted your log. Otherwise it's just a nice normal QSO, but it doesn't help their score in the contest.

[void cape]

I have a record function on the FTM-300D that I use, and I try to remember to say the time. With my APRS beacons, I can usually figure out the rough vicinity of the contact. So it’s just some processing later in the day and uploading that to QRZ.

[toxic shard]

If it's just the one transceiver, your exchange would be "ONE MIKE CHARLIE TANGO" (assuming you're in CT at the time)

1 for one transceiver, M for mobile

[void cape]

Is there one for handhelds too? I might be walking around with my 2m at the place I’m going in Springfield

[tardy steeple]

Nodes can record ?

[toxic shard]

We're talking ham radio

[tardy steeple]

O

[void cape]

We’re talking about a ham radio contest. The Yaesu FTM-300D is a VHF narrow band FM radio

Yeah

[toxic shard]

There's no separate class for handheld, it'd still be mobile

[void cape]

It’s a nice radio. I have a dual band antenna on the roof of my car attached via mag mount

[tardy steeple]

Ya I read up after I asked and felt dumb 😆

[toxic shard]

Don't, we're "off topic" for a meshtastic channel

[void cape]

I know I’m a heathen for this, but I just adapted the wire to a cigarette lighter plug and I use that.

[toxic shard]

There is a multiplier for "Operate 100% on alternative power", which you probably qualify for

[void cape]

Everyone online says you should wire it directly to the battery but I seriously could not be bothered

[toxic shard]

One for "Operate away from home"

[void cape]

I could even put it into low power and qualify for QRP LOL

[toxic shard]

https://winterfieldday.org/sop.php

[void cape]

10W on 2m is more than enough

[toxic shard]

Just being around listening to the calling frequencies for VHF and UHF will help people who are trying to get the "at least 6 different bands" multiplier

Runs from 11am on Saturday to 5pm on Sunday next weekend.

[toxic shard]

I'll be operating from Middle Street in Bristol on most of the bands.

We've got an ICOM IC-7600 hooked up to a tarheel screwdriver antenna on the roof for HF, and some ICOM mobile on a dual band antenna for VHF and UFH. So I'll probably try to get a contact on 70cm, 2m, 10m, 15m, 20m, and 40m. I don't know if it'll do 80, and we don't have anything in the shack for 1.25m right now.

[void cape]

My mobile operation will be mostly in and around the Springfield area, and a trip to Winsted twice that probably is outside the time window unfortunately. It’s too bad that this overlaps with the Amherst Railways show or I would totally set up my dx commander and operate JS8

[toxic shard]

Maybe next year they won't overlap

[void cape]

I mean, maybe I just throw it in the back of the car and use it while I’m in the hotel parking lot in Springfield.

[void cape]

Hahaha they both picked the last weekend in January…

[toxic shard]

I plan to do just enough JS8 to get the multiplier, but probably mostly phone.

[void cape]

Always is

[toxic shard]

I like JS8 well enough, but I've found it confusing so far when used for contesting. For ARRL Field Day in the summer they allow FT8 which is better suited to it.

I'll probably try some other keyboard to keyboard digital modes, but I don't have much practice with them, so not banking on it.

[void cape]

In the rules for this they prohibit FT8 which I think is actually a good thing.. FT8 is only good for contesting and dx and not for emergency coordination which is one aim of the license and field day (although that’s just my opinion)

I think it would be cool to bring a node or two kicked into ham mode. That would count towards this as a digital node

[tardy steeple]

This chip makes the quansheng uv-k5 have 999 channels ( memories )

I just found this on AliExpress: $0.73 | (1~100 Pieces) M24M01-RMN6TP SOP-8 24M01RP New Original Chip
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqi6CJz

[void cape]

I almost never use channel features on my radios. With the exception of my GMRS license and radios.

I do have some repeaters programmed into the car but I very rarely tune to them.

[void cape]

I got some cool shots of the Hartford skyline a few days ago

It's cool because you can see some of the hills that would help coverage in this area.

These were taken from the north end, just a stone's throw from the I-91 and I-291 interchange

[toxic shard]

Nice

[fierce moss]

Oh nice

There’s some contest next week?

[void cape]

Yeah, the winter field day

[toxic shard]

Added a cavity filter to Unwin G2 and swapped to a longer antenna, though allegedly similar gain as the previous.

The first image is pre-filter, pre-antenna change. The second is now.

Not ideal as it shows different hops each way, but interesting to see

The EBFD node is new thanks to Soren. It's a typical pre-made solar RAK board on a roof attached to an existing mast.

[fierce moss]

Which filter?

I’ll have room in the Torrington node for one…

[tardy steeple]

napa fuel filter 4003

Wrong discord my bad

[toxic shard]

In this case it's this one. No endorsement yet, just started testing https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804282645306.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.23.95fe1802b3jDtb&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

[tardy steeple]

How long did it take for shipping ?

[toxic shard]

That one was unusually fast, 8 days

must have been a US warehouse

[tardy steeple]

Guess I’m not getting mine

[tardy steeple]

Normally all my aliexpress packages are 10 days . My last 5 took 5 days .

[toxic shard]

Mine are usually more like 11 days

11-14

Just long enough for me to forget what I ordered

[tardy steeple]

Just remember Chinese New Year in 2025 is on January 29 and they are down for shipments for about 2 weeks

[tardy steeple]

Same

[tardy steeple]

Thinking about making this next

https://www.printables.com/model/816502-meshtastic-routergateway-heltec-wireless-stick-lit

[tardy steeple]

https://youtu.be/YpEpLaCxz24?si=bIuktIHGHMuPBJhk

wismesh repeater ?

[radiant sequoia]

I've got a few Acacom's coming, one for Turkey and maybe one for my house, I'll see how they do...

[radiant sequoia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNWf0Mh2fJw

[fierce moss]

neat. def really new. any wouldnt work great for mobile nodes it looks like

but neat concept

[tardy steeple]

Never powered anything over coaxial cable before

[rare mulch]

I've thought about getting my ham radio license for a while. I have signed up for that online ham test and place decent on test but it keeps slipping off the list of priorities.

And then 5 years goes by and I've forgotten everything 😁

[toxic shard]

I found the HamStudy app to be very useful. Free on the web or a small cost for the app. When i felt the urge to doom scroll social media, I did questions instead and it helped a lot

[radiant sequoia]

I got mine in 1991.... I was 12....

[toxic shard]

That’s me

Too many pre-2.5 nodes around.

Though I imagine if they haven’t updated at this point they’re probably not even checking their nodes.

[steady solar]

Anyone have store & forward enabled and have an example of what their setup looks like? Wondering if this is appropriate for me
https://meshtastic.org/docs/configuration/module/store-and-forward-module/

[toxic shard]

I haven't but I'm interested in hearing from someone who has

[fervent sky]

I figured that from the location. I thought it was hilarious when I saw it. Likely true

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard

https://youtu.be/zDlPi1IbyK4?si=KcCdxL3a1Id7KRrY

[void cape]

I haven’t tried store and forward but to be honest most of the time when I connect to the node at home after having been out of Bluetooth range, once I connect the messages and node info flood into the app

[tardy steeple]

Any idea what this all is ?

[toxic shard]

Nope, only got the Hoth message

[fierce moss]

Unwin, more people with your strong signal wierdness https://www.facebook.com/groups/237130504595474/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=1153337009641481

[fierce moss]

Store and forward isnt about bluetooth. It supposedly will hold and then send out a LORA message after a node reconnects to the mesh. so like a car that drives into the mesh area daily...

[tardy steeple]

I have store and forward enabled on my t-beam

[fierce moss]

i dont want to enable it until i know exactly how it works

[tardy steeple]

@fierce moss Does that print work with a hat ?

I have these printed off just waiting for my raspberry pi. It’s been stuck on the same shipment update from china for over a week now

[fierce moss]

mine does yes. it has my hat on it

you can see the e22 logo

[steel steppe]

If anyone is interested... I'm doing a Harbor Breeze Garden Light node build (two actually) in the MA channel (I am near the MA/CT line). Watching the battery consumption and charging across cold, cloudy vs. sunny days to see how well it suits being a long term tree mounted remote node for our mesh.

The garden lights are on sale at Lowes for under $10 right now.

https://discord.com/channels/867578229534359593/1201546802437042286

[void cape]

I just became very happy

After about 6 months of waiting for delays, the Discovery Dish I ordered shipped and will be here tomorrow.

Next week I may be able to start receiving satellite imagery

https://www.crowdsupply.com/krakenrf/discovery-dish

It’s too bad the mesh doesn’t support sending photos easily

To be quite honest, I’m guessing that Meshtastic’s IP stack is the most jank thing on this planet to use

[fierce moss]

Yea. Lora COULD, but the goal of the Meshtastic people is to hyper-minimize air time usage

Which i get. They are trying to support huge meshes in the future

[jolly ruin]

I've had a couple of these units outside the past couple weeks.. one in a tree and one on a bench. I was worried these past few days but they are still ticking.

[steel steppe]

Day 2 the batteries are at 100%. I will check out how much gets used tonight to compare. Waiting for a cloudy day now to see how much that affects charging whether I get enough or not.

[jolly ruin]

my experience has been that it takes a few days or even a week to really normalize as I think some of the daytime readings in the beginning aren't exactly accurate. I would see big swings from near 100% to high 70's once the sun went down. After that it's more stable. 100 by the afternoon then can get to around 90 by early AM the next day.

[fierce moss]

who is 99A4 on the mesh? looks like a bot, but it keeps spitting garbage to Ch0

[steady solar]

Oh thanks

That's so weird I don't see any of that

[tardy steeple]

That’s what a lot of people are saying they’re not seeing half of what everybody else is seeing

[fierce moss]

im sure its because torrington to bristol isnt fully stable yet.
That or some packets are tagged mqtt and they have them off

99a4 is tagged mqtt

[steady solar]

ZPM7 is @rare mulch

[fierce moss]

ahh ok

looks like....

Y S Base Two 4d04

hey @potent ravine when should I have the new Torrington node ready by? I just want to make sure i have it good to go for you whenever they are going to go up

[potent ravine]

Take your time

[toxic shard]

I haven't seen any of those MG Two Alert messages

[tardy steeple]

I have like 20 the last two days

Absolute madness

[toxic shard]

@craggy vigil do you know who 99a4 is?

Different topic, my second test of a 20Ah 12.8V battery powering SOL had the same results, about a month. Seems like there is some significant inefficiency in the RAK green power module when used in this use case.

So around the 17th or 18th it started to dip down. That's when the 20Ah LFP must have stopped providing charge to the node and it keeps running on it's internal lipoly cell.

the 20Ah 12.8V cell should offer 256Wh of power. The internal cell is 3.7V 2Ah (or maybe 3), so call it 11Wh

LFP ended at 10.4V.

My thoughts are to try a different DC-DC converter, or to implement a circuit which has more of a periodic on-off cycle, like charge for a [length of time needed for one full charge] then stop for a week, repeat.

[safe plank]

I’ve had 2 RAK4631 /19007 outdoor units require manual reboot then eventually fail to connect via Bluetooth or function, battery/power is a non issue, anyone have issues with these in the cold? Or likely firmware related?

[toxic shard]

Could be firmware, but more often with RAKs it's a power brownout. Why do you say battery/power is a non-issue?

[tardy steeple]

My RAK Poe wasn’t working no matter what I did . Kept shutting down more or less .

I added a screen and a sensor . ( more power usage and draw )

Now it works .

[safe plank]

Tested 4.16v when it happened, though I am seeing a note about LiPo chemistry only and these are Li-ion - direct +- 100,000mah 1s40p

[fierce moss]

@toxic shard how is the cavity filter working?

[toxic shard]

Seems to be good. Haven't really gotten objective with it, as in any rigorous testing

[fierce moss]

gotcha

im thinking one would help on torrington

[toxic shard]

My test at work showed it helped reception, but again it's hard to quantify that with the setup I had and the limited work I did on it

[toxic shard]

jebbus that's a lot of power

If that's going into vbat, it's too high a voltage

[safe plank]

I assumed the 19007 nominal 3.7(4.2 charge) would buck?

Either way it will get sorted out over time, just got into this. Would like to use RAK given the low power consumption. End goal is large battery bank solar pelican cases with and high gain antennas scattered on the tallest mountains all over the state

[steady solar]

Interesting, I have a couple of plain jane Panasonic/sanyo 18650s plugged into a wisblock with a 5w panel on the solar plug without any issues for about 6 months now

[safe plank]

If anyone is interested in throwing away money and rendering a node useless(for now) I sew some pretty wild faraday bags, reach out to me on the mesh

[toxic shard]

Seems like it would, yeah. What firmware version did you experience the lockups on? Are you using any WisBlock modules? Was solar or USB plugged in at the time?

Only times I've had RAKs lock up is water ingress into the case.

Try doing a full erase and reflash process on it, little trash can icon on the right in the flasher

I think I've seen your nodes up in West Hartford. I was in town last night and sent a public channel message. Did you receive it?

[safe plank]

Just the rak19007+rak4631, 3.7v nominal into the 19007 battery port, 5v(5.5v max) into the 19007 solar port , v2.5.18.89 downloaded, drag and drop to the root of the disk per flasher.meshtastic. Both units became unresponsive at night. I seem to recall seeing your message. Feel free to reach out/test direct whenever on meshlife1,2 the rest are acting as repeaters

[toxic shard]

Don't use repeater mode, client mode is better

In an exceptional location router is good, but for most everything client is better.

[safe plank]

I only use client

[toxic shard]

excellent

I misunderstood "acting as repeaters" to mean repeater device mode

Are "the rest" named similarly, with ML or meshlife?

[safe plank]

*unattended mesh nodes

Yes, meshlife-solar#, drone#, card#

[toxic shard]

cool

My recommendation for your lock-up ones is to try a full erase and reconfigure them and test again. I once had two RAK devices with bad starting flashes. Those were WisMesh Pockets, so a different but similar board to the 19007. I make it a habit now of erasing everything when I first set it up

[safe plank]

Will do, I find it hard to believe freezing temps would be the culprit or there would be more chatter on the topic

[toxic shard]

Yeah, agreed

I've got a node, Unwin Solar, aka "SOL", which has been outside all winter no issues.

And it's a RAK4631 on a 19007

Among us in this channel we've probably got maybe 10 outdoor RAK-based nodes in central CT right now. Nobody's had cold issues.

I'd try a different battery to try and isolate the problem. Like a basic 2000mAh lipoly cell or something, just to see if it behaves differently on that vs your mondo pack

Did you build your 1s40p yourself? That's a lot of juice.

[tardy steeple]

Now I just gotta decide what radio to use .

[tardy steeple]

100,000 ? Damnnn

[safe plank]

Planning on that as well. Yea I have a never ending supply of 18650’s and a spot welder, everything essential I own can/is powered off a bank. For those concerned about volatility, it’s top of mind and addressed, cell level fuses, fiberglass and ceramic sewn enclosures, if somehow it is liion vs lipo, I’ll let it be known

[tardy steeple]

I have a crap load of 18650’s myself . I was looking at spot welders myself however my wife said no 🤣

[safe plank]

It’s an amazing capability to have and cheap, just take your time and fully understand what you’re building and safety around it, always have a window to throw it out nearby! If you do happen to dive in, batteryhookup.com has some sweet cell level fusing nickel strip for pack making

[toxic shard]

FYI, here's what I see in Plainville

kind of interesting it's only from this morning, not more recently.

[toxic shard]

Are you using anything for high and low voltage protection? Especially at low voltage the RAKs can flake out and lock up. A few of us are using little protection boards from the likes of Voltaic Enclosures to cut off the RAK before the battery gets super low so it'll come back cleanly when solar is restored.

Such as this, which conveniently has the same JST polarity as the RAK boards https://www.etsy.com/listing/1421193059/li-ion-battery-protection-modules-pcm

[safe plank]

The 1st unit that went bad, yes. The 2nd one was direct to battery

[void cape]

LiFePo4 cells have a nominal cell voltage of 3.2 volts which is a bit lower than other lithium batteries.

[toxic shard]

The LFP is the external 12.8V 4S1P 20Ah pack. The internal cell is not LFP

Know what I mean?

[void cape]

Ahh, missed that part

[toxic shard]

I’m experimenting with large external batteries to recharge the internal cell when solar is not feasible

[void cape]

I remember that conversation.

This might sound ridiculous but I wonder if with very low draw if you could use daytime/nighttime temperature differentials to run a node

[fierce moss]

Get a nice Qi Charger so you can telescope a pole up to the bottom of the box in a tree lol

[void cape]

Heh

[toxic shard]

Hehe, that’s a fun idea

I’ll probably try a 100Ah 12.8V battery next month when this one is empty, just need to make a weatherproof box for it.

I’ve got them to spare, cheap ones.

[void cape]

I bet a 100W filament light bulb and a solar panel would work if you focused the light at it lol. Qi charging is so darn inefficient

[toxic shard]

“Lasers”

[void cape]

The charger my friend has uses like 15 watts of induction for 5 watts of charging, which really isn’t sufficient for a modern cell phone

[steady solar]

Oh yeah I'm getting that annoying message through LongFast now too heh

[tardy steeple]

Not my IG

https://voltaicsystems.com/iot-battery-packs/

[toxic shard]

I recently got one. Pricy.

But that’s what that Austin mesh recommended too.

[toxic shard]

Haven’t seen any myself.

[tardy steeple]

I have one in cart I’m debating 😆

[toxic shard]

Oh this IS that Austin mesh. I saw the name of one of the likers and confused it for the posting account

[tardy steeple]

It literally just went off

[steady solar]

Yeah that node is getting the fat ignore, that's obnoxious

[fierce moss]

yea

[fierce moss]

if anyone wants to add that node to their ignore/dont relay list, the node number is

1128176036

under settings/lora/ignore incoming

its better than client ignoring it as according to docs, you shouldnt repeat it

[toxic shard]

Anyone gotten a trace to it? Maybe the node closest relating it can be figured out and ignore it there.

[rare mulch]

Interesting issue that started last night I went to go connect to my solar RAK4630 node via Bluetooth and it asked me for my password again and then it fell off the list and I couldn't get reconnected so I went and power cycled it and it wouldn't come back up and then I tried connecting via USB directly and it just keeps enumerating new serial connections without actually connecting.

[tardy steeple]

Remove it completely from the phone Bluetooth settings .

Force close app

Reopen

[void cape]

Any node in range of it would need to ignore it

When planes go over it’s kinda moot

[tardy steeple]

I tried to send a direct message to that node but was unsuccessful? I’d rather educate them or help than block them.

[fierce moss]

It seems like it’s not a full node. Like an mqtt client. It’s not responding to requests.

[void cape]

Huh, weird

[toxic shard]

No coverage up in Bloomfield it seems

[steady solar]

Spending the night on the 19th floor of a hotel in Manhattan and I'm picking up 20 nodes. Nice.

[tardy steeple]

What hotel brand ?

[steady solar]

Hilton

[tardy steeple]

Ooo nice . If it was Marriott I could of got you a discount

[steady solar]

I'll be sure to hit you up next time hah, thanks!

Just got engaged 😄

[tardy steeple]

Congratulations 🎊🎈🎉🍾

[toxic shard]

W00t!

[fierce moss]

Good to know about the Marriott!

Grats!!!

Quick. Buy all the radio stuff now before you’re married and broke!!

[steady solar]

Thanks guys!

[toxic shard]

Pretty wild return path here on a trace from my base G2 to the EBFD (East Berlin Fire Department). On the way back it goes to Rocky Hill and to the far side of Bristol

(note we think "Repeater" in these means "node not on the public channel")

[radiant sequoia]

actually went from one side of town to the other then to you.... hahaahaha

[fierce moss]

the pathing can be wonky sometimes due to the randomized delay in client mode

[steady solar]

This is so weird, despite seeing many nodes in NYC and receiving a few messages I always get max retransmission on any outgoing messages

Lots of <2.5 nodes out here

I'm arguably in a decent spot high up, tried last night and this morning with no luck. I'll try again from the street.

[toxic shard]

195 contacts for Winter Field Day. Much less lilkey to lose my voice talking about meshtastic than doing all that. And I can talk about meshtastic a lot, so that's saying something.

(not shown is a couple of MX contacts too)

[toxic shard]

Here's an interesting observation (I think). I saw the RAGEier G2 node here in Bristol on FILT while using the macOS Meshtastic Client. Tried to send a DM, got "Encrypted send failed". Quit the official client and connected via MeshtTXT, node is not in the node DB. So I'm guessing my official client on this computer, which connects to various nodes at home, at work, etc, has seen RAGEier before and has it in its internal client records, but the FILT node doesn't know it, so when my client tries to send an encrypted message it can't.

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard

https://www.buytwowayradios.com/wouxun-kg-935h.html

[gilded mango]

We (Greater Bridgeport ARC in CT) ran 2H for WFD with an Icom AH-710 folded dipole and a 2ele tribander with 100W. Two radios - a Yaesu FT-710 and an IC-7610. We share the antennas with two triplexes; one 10-15-20 and one 80-40-10. Just before bed we worked some 160m direct off the AH-710. We did 726 contacts, about 70% cw for 17635 pts plus 10 objectives..

We were unable to use my IC-9700 because of a strange situation. A day before I was running a new cable and when I was done I had no audio modulation. I had munged the cable to the Mic and my fear was I blew the 8v. After WFD I expected to send it out to Icom, but decided to read the groups.io forum. Lo and behold there was a suggestion to check the No Data Mod setting. Just to amuse myself I did and bingo the setting had changed though I never changed it. Fixed that and it is all better now.

So we missed two objectives worth three mults but the 10 gave us 176350 total points.

[gilded mango]

@tardy steeple seems like a high price. Is it DMR?

[toxic shard]

Very nice

[gilded mango]

Thanks

[tardy steeple]

All of my wouxun have been around that price or more . Not DMR , Tri band

[toxic shard]

Doesn’t seem to be superheterodyne.

[tardy steeple]

It transmits many fars tho 🤣

[toxic shard]

Someone watches Ronaldo

FYI all

[fierce moss]

I didn’t even know router_late was a new feature. I need to keep up

Smart though

[toxic shard]

The client.meshtastic.org site seems to have gotten a few updates. Noticing less needing to reconnect after rebooting as I change settings, and it offered to do a backup download of my node's keys

[toxic shard]

Got my Seeed SenseCAP Indicator today. I like that the firmware has a clock. It's the little things

(stock firmware)

(well, I updated it to the latest beta official firmware version, not the third-party dev firmware people try)

Kind of annoying to set the timezone, had to use the CLI

[tardy steeple]

I hav two update my nodes and get my raspberry pi/lora set up . My laptop died completely

[fierce moss]

Neat

[tardy steeple]

Awesome

[toxic shard]

Interesting.

I think that trace may have the "ends swapped" bug, but it's the first trace I've seen from up there

Not sure I buy the "Mt Toby Router Station" reaching "Mithras" in Berlin, but... maybe?

[tardy steeple]

Interesting

https://www.reddit.com/r/meshtastic/s/5LH5WMxCyT

[tardy steeple]

Just did some upgrading on my MQTT node here .

[fierce moss]

Maybe…

[tardy steeple]

Just a t beam with a alfa antenna in a waterproof enclosure and a Waterproof Extension Cable usb type c

[tardy steeple]

This looks promising

https://store.rakwireless.com/products/wismesh-baseboard-rak19026?srsltid=AfmBOopH8h0TeDcTvcQvW_kMKYY3a8uZ-z0wQYCAj8abaih3gP6ZJXig&variant=44023445422278

[toxic shard]

That’s what’s in the WisMesh Pocket

[tardy steeple]

Ya I guess they are selling the board by itself now

[toxic shard]

SQUALL!

Whenever my wife or I hear the word squall we shout it. I'm not even sure where this inside joke came from.

This is... perhaps... a bit much for the public channel

[fierce moss]

Yea. That’s a lot. For info that’s everywhere

Radio people love to report the weather that’s on everyone’s phone

[tardy steeple]

My node didn’t even go off once …

[toxic shard]

I'd say maybe post the first part with instructions to reply via DM for the full report

I've never been able to interface with the R2D2 bot from here.

[fierce moss]

Yea

[toxic shard]

I forget who we had from PVEC in here once

[fierce moss]

We do the exact same thing

My wife just saw snow falling outside and yelled it

[tardy steeple]

It’s sunny day cold here . Sitting on the dock . It’s showing up by yall ?

[void cape]

Ham radio operators are secretly all NOAA spotters lol

[toxic shard]

secretly?

[tardy steeple]

https://meshtastic-designer.rakwireless.com/c/679ae84308d6d41becdad83f?version=elgrkhqp

[radiant sequoia]

ghost, any feedback on the asacom? I just got two in and added one here at home on my g2... not sure how to best test it overall or I guess just hoping it's doing what it's supposed to be doing....

[craggy vigil]

oh wow I think that is me lol - One of my legacy units running old FW oops - Going forward with the latest FW this will be on Private channels only

[toxic shard]

I would do trace routes to nodes you can hear, and nodes which are 1 hop away. Record the SNR and RSSI for things that you hear directly back from. Then swap the filter in/out and repeat the same test.

The other way I tested was running two G2s from the same spot with the stock antennas, one with a filter one without and comparing what they hear, how many hops they see from nodes. Not scientifically rigourous but it was interesting.

You could also use the NanoVNA to tune the filter to more precisely match the part of the 900mhz band that Meshtastic uses. Or you could at least verify the 906.875MHz default frequency is well within the filter's scope

I've never tweaked these filters. You might tweak it in the wrong direction and not be able to get it back to where you want it. But on the other hand it might be easy and you have no trouble bending it to your will

[radiant sequoia]

okie dokie

[fierce moss]

oh thank god lol. what were those alerts even for? I will un-ban the node from my routers

[tardy steeple]

No shit that was you 😂

[fierce moss]

i ordered one of the filters too

im going to drop it into the new torrington one when it goes in

i figure it could only help while sitting on a tower with a lot of other transmitters

[fierce moss]

@toxic shard which SMA cables did you need to get for the filter? i need ipex -> SMA? and SMA? -> N-Female

[toxic shard]

Depends on the node and antenna. If it's for a RAK19007 base board, yeah, ipex -> SMA Male and SMA Male to N-Female (assuming your antenna has N-Male)

[tardy steeple]

ipex to sma male to the filter

From filter sma male to what ever connection you need

Sma male to N-Female Bulkhead for this coming from filter

[toxic shard]

Looks like my SeeedStudio SenseCAP Indicator is affected by the 50 byte issue. I've submitted for a replacement.

[tardy steeple]

Damn dude

[toxic shard]

eh, it's fine. I'll get a working one eventually, and until then I've got an RX node to play with

[tardy steeple]

Got two fully built

Waiting on parts too complete other two

Gonna test this up on the pole

[toxic shard]

Nice, where are you going to deploy them?

[tardy steeple]

Shipping to NC .

Roof of hotel in Gastonia and guys house

[toxic shard]

Nice.

[fierce moss]

yea Rak. nothing else beats Rak for Solar atm

[toxic shard]

A screen-less Heltec T114 is ok too

(haven't validated it's solar input, but it's nRF52 so good power draw)

[tardy steeple]

https://youtu.be/ROzkbjWR8lw?si=cZug32NIgeWIRoOr

LILYGO T-Beam Works well with solar power when paired with a TP4056 charge controller and a 18650 battery.

Heltec Wireless Stick – Can be powered via a solar-charged battery pack.

RAK Wireless WisBlock (RAK4631 with RAK19007 base board)

CN3791 MPPT, or EPEver MPPT

https://a.co/d/2VlRNdj

https://a.co/d/2mxBsza

[toxic shard]

A t-beam will be dead in less than two cloudy days, in my experience

the esp32 is not suited to low power use case.

[tardy steeple]

I’m trying to build one right now . I have a 4x18650 holder I want to use instead of the single one on the t-beamie itself . I’m trying to figure out the best way to wire it .

[toxic shard]

The only reason I can think of to use one on battery is if you needed wifi, and that'll suck up even more power. But maybe there's a feature I'm not aware of. In almost every case the RAK boards or the Heltec nRF52 boards are the better choice.

[tardy steeple]

Agreed . I just like to do other things .

[toxic shard]

Word, keep it up

[tardy steeple]

Ya looking for a station g2 right now .

I’m gonna pull the t beam outta this and put it in a slightly bigger case with a cavity filter and run it POE.

Think china is on vacation right now and I don’t think any are state side

[toxic shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp5kL5e14o

https://store.rakwireless.com/products/wismesh-board-one?variant=44413994827974

https://store.rokland.com/products/rakwireless-wismesh-b1-board?variant=42458626031699

Main improvements are side-mount battery and solar allowing for thinner enclosures, an option for a display that's mounted to the board, and a new charge chip with over temp and under temp protection.

And all the IO pins are broken out.

[tardy steeple]

Didn’t I post that the other day or was that a different board.

[toxic shard]

different

[tardy steeple]

Oooo

[fervent sky]

Ran a traceroute to Turkey Hill as I was passing by it on Percival Ave. It decided to take the long route there

[fierce moss]

temp protection?

shit

onboard BLE antenna though

cant add a directional

[radiant sequoia]

May have been the height difference and it's got a high DB gain external antenna... it's probably not super flat closer to it would be my first guess...

[fervent sky]

Makes sense I guess...Ragged Mountain is a lot high than Turkey Hill so it went all the way to East Berlin and back... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[toxic shard]

Remember trace routes are A route, not always the best route. Meshtastic prefers weak hops.

[radiant sequoia]

ya, traces are often a mess, returns are often direct or 2 hops and going is 3/4....

turkey hill is 350 feet I think and lamo is 600 and ragged has to be up there too...

what is this mithras node I'm seeing.... fairly new... is the position correct?