US - Connecticut.

[tardy steeple]

True

[hoary oxide]

I've turned off MQTT downlinks for my main node at my house. Wanted to confirm that I did it right - the node is configured as per the instructions shared here, but I just turned off the downlink_enabled setting for the ConnNet and Primary channels. I left lora.ignore_mqtt as false for the node. Is there anything else I need to do?

[fierce moss]

That’s totally fine.

I’m building out the new Torrington node now that should secure our Torrington - Bristol backhaul once it’s on the new tower.

After that, the only bandaided mqtt main channel traffic is south of us.

The main reason you may eventually want to accept MQTT traffic will be the Test bot/News Bot/AI chat bot.

But you’re good

[tardy steeple]

I had a few people ask me how I reset my rak using the reset switch without access to it

I have a switchbot

I will upload a video of how it works

In the video nothing is mounted or anything so it wouldn't exactly touch the reset button it's more of a demonstration

[tardy steeple]

Rather warm no?

[toxic shard]

Saw a message about a new G2 on the public channel but didn’t get node info at the time. Was that you?

[tardy steeple]

I literally just got this

Store and forward ?

[void cape]

Maybe?

[void cape]

Yes.

[toxic shard]

Did you change your key, perhaps wipe and reflash

[toxic shard]

@void cape just making your you saw this 👆🏻

[void cape]

it's a new radio

[toxic shard]

Did you re-use a key or anything?

Trying to figure out why I'd get this error

[fierce moss]

Or reuse a previously used short/long name on the new radio.

[void cape]

Neither, to my knowledge. I wiped it shortly after powering it on but I upgraded from 2.3 which was prior to the encryption keys

[toxic shard]

I was just able to send it a message so who knows.

[void cape]

Tried sending a reply

[toxic shard]

Received, seems all good

@fierce moss ever try moving a key between devices? Any point to that? My guess is the key is associated with the device ID and the names don't matter. If I replace a node and configure it with the same name and key, would a friend that's seen my old node with that key treat the new node as valid? Would it even care that two nodes had the same key? Figured if anyone had seen that yet, it'd be you.

(among our group here)

[toxic shard]

Weird, I've got a new node (RAK 4631 based) that won't take LoRa settings. Wiped it, flashed it fresh, can't set the region.

[jolly ruin]

kick it (the answer the everything that's broke)

[toxic shard]

I was able to set it using serial. Serial hadn't been working before so I had been trying BLE. Hrmmmf

[tardy steeple]

I just got a kit from Rokland no matter what I do it’s not working .

[toxic shard]

What kit?

Sometimes trying a different cable helps.

[tardy steeple]

Tried 5

RAKwireless Mini Meshtastic Starter Kit US915 RAK19003 + 4631 SKU 115093

[toxic shard]

What do you mean by "it's not working"? What are you seeing?

[tardy steeple]

Tried 2 computers 5 cables . WiFi Bluetooth

Finally worked the second I plugged it into my Mac .

[toxic shard]

Got a new Muzi H2T today with their belt clip and I forgot how much I like this type of node. Still waiting on my replacement T114 from Heltec for my first H2T

[tardy steeple]

I literally just built one yesterday

[toxic shard]

I ordered this one fully assembled and got the flex whip antenna

but my fisrt I assembled

Both were good experiences

[tardy steeple]

Getting that antenna wire down the channel and around was a fun thing

[toxic shard]

that was a little tricky, but not too bad. I've had harder times with other types of cases for other nodes

I wish the firmware took advantage of the color screen

[tardy steeple]

True

I saw someone post the other day of a t1000e inside a solar enclosure

[toxic shard]

that sounds.... odd

[tardy steeple]

I thought I saved a photo of it but basically he just had a black and the red wire hooked into the solar panel and the t1000 E was placed inside the solar housing

[fierce moss]

It should work yes.

The main reason I feel would be sending remote admin commands to routers

as you can set a node to authorize 3 keys

so if you lose one or swap, you can swap that key to keep admining it

[toxic shard]

Charging up my new battery using my new DC-DC charger. This is for my overbuilt car node.

Was surprised the charger came with power poles already on the wires 😍

[tardy steeple]

What’s the car node look like?

[toxic shard]

That’s all I’ve got so far lol. It’ll be an ammo box or something with the batt, charger, fuses and such, and a station g2. Antenna will be inside the car for now, but eventually I’ll mount the antenna externally.

Goal is for it to stay powered when the car is not running.

And to be something I can grab and temporarily deploy wherever. Honestly, it’s mostly an excuse to build it

[toxic shard]

@potent ravine you have some competition

[potent ravine]

LOL may the best man win

[tardy steeple]

I was trying to test a drone node and “ caused panic “

[fierce moss]

lol

[tardy steeple]

Lol

[void cape]

I’ve had success with this, but battery life of the drone means it has limited effect.

It allowed me to bridge Goshen to Bristol once.

[toxic shard]

I want to understand this mystery still:

Something is causing this to appear to be zero hops with a signal report that really suggests it's in my house. But I turned JW+ downlink off and it's still happening.

[toxic shard]

Also, this weirdness:

12/14, 3:23 PM
Node 848867947 GFMS to JW+ TRACEROUTE_APP
JW+ -> GF00 -> GFR1 -> GFR2 -> JW -> GFMS

[void cape]

Probably need an SDR to untangle that.

[fierce moss]

Yea that’s weird

[steady solar]

@toxic shard you've had issues with nodes randomly losing their names yeah? Just had my roof rak node do that, changed ID entirely too. All other settings are in tact

Bottom just disappeared and I couldn't traceroute so I got super worried something happened. Turns out there's no issue other than the name and ID just kicked

[toxic shard]

I've had them lose their name but never change their ID. That should be based on the MAC address, very odd it'd change. Is it a RAK?

[tardy steeple]

Might have been the update ?

[toxic shard]

Anyone know "nazrin", no default channel and old firmware

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard

https://atlavox.com/products/atlavox-beacon-solar-meshtastic-node?se_activity_id=187975532818&syclid=ctfh5n308qas73f3v820&utm_campaign=Atlavox+Beacon+In-Depth+Video+and+Preorders_187975532818&utm_medium=email&utm_source=shopify_email

[toxic shard]

Nice

[tardy steeple]

Preorder date tho

48 days min

[toxic shard]

I'm so sick of this MQTT junk in my nodes 😡

[fierce moss]

You can de-link for now…

Or i can send you a node to Toss up to handle mqtt and you can just enable the ignore mqtt option on everything

[toxic shard]

I already delinked, I'm still getting tons

I haven't done ignore yet. Trying to understand what's going on

Like, these traces, whaaaa?

JW+ is poinetd at Liam's map broker, not the GF one right now

Has been for a day or so

so weird.

any ideas?

[toxic shard]

Turkey Hill in Berlin forgot its name again. Most recently Jeff had it named HFZ1

That's !ce68df4d

[fierce moss]

yea i dont get those traces....

if you are delinked, mqtt shouldnt be causing anything

[toxic shard]

I'm still seeing R2D2 at 9.25dB 🤯

On my T1000E CARD

JW+ is definitely pointed at Liam

Channels:
  Index 0: PRIMARY psk=default { "psk": "AQ==", "uplinkEnabled": true, "moduleSettings": { "positionPrecision": 17, "isClientMuted": false }, "channelNum": 0, "name": "", "id": 0, "downlinkEnabled": false }
  Index 1: SECONDARY psk=secret { "psk": ".....", "name": "ConnNet", "uplinkEnabled": true, "moduleSettings": { "positionPrecision": 17, "isClientMuted": false }, "channelNum": 0, "id": 0, "downlinkEnabled": false }

And I'm definitely not downlinking

[fierce moss]

lliam doesnt allow downlinking anyway

[toxic shard]

I know, that's what makes it so weird!

So weird.

[toxic shard]

On the plus side, this always makes me happy: JW+ -> GFR2

That dinky little antenna is all JW+'s got

[toxic shard]

At this point I feel like i need to packet sniff this traffic

[toxic shard]

Not sure if I should be ashamed for that photo or not.

They’ll go to good homes soon! I’m just…fostering…yeah that’s it.

[toxic shard]

(added on more since i took the shot. Found an extra Seeed T1000-e card)

Like this I get, this was RF from me to Gary, then MQTT down to the shore. JW+ -> JW -> GFR2 -> GFR1 -> GF68 -> ICUP

When I saw GF68 I thought "wow Gary has a lot of nodes" then I looked it up and saw it was @tardy steeple

[fierce moss]

haha

[fierce moss]

My only fancy HT is an ft5d

everything else is a $30 beofeng or less lol

[tardy steeple]

Booofwang

https://youtu.be/DnP2WYgnkKw?si=QEN48ZRdFIK_Dahv

[toxic shard]

The VGC VR-N76 is my current ht to fiddle with. It’s got KISS TNC support over Bluetooth now.

[toxic shard]

(android apps work great with it directly, for iOS you need the B.B. Link Adapter to bridge between types of bluetooth apple nerfs)

[steady solar]

Yep a RAK, never seen that before. Different Meshtastic ID and name, bluetooth MAC remained the same when reconnecting though hah.

magically changed from !23f4662b to !d1cc34d9

I also only have one node connected to liam's mqtt server and i still get all sorts of mqtt discovery

[fierce moss]

That has to be via lora. Liam’s has no egress data

[toxic shard]

So I'm at work having lunch, tell CARD to trace to JW+ which I can access via MeshSense in a browser. Looks odd.

Little hard to see so I'll copy and paste the meshsense part here: JW+ -> FILT -> GFR2 -> SOL -> CARD

Almost like MS got the ends backwards. CARD is near FILT and JW+ is near SOL

Here's the data MS shows for the trace: https://gist.github.com/jwarchol/3af4f71d116ab8241795c152ae0d8ccc

I suepect MeshSense is parsing the "from" and the "to" as if the node it's connected to had to be the sender. But in this case it's the target

Reported it https://github.com/Affirmatech/MeshSense/issues/38

[toxic shard]

@fierce moss looks like chip lost its position

Last position update on liam's map was 25 days ago

[fierce moss]

Yea. You stopped downlink to long fast

About then

It was updating through that path

[toxic shard]

I still see it over RF, it's not sending positions

[fierce moss]

Oh. Hrmmm. I’ll look

[toxic shard]

If you need me to re-link so you can send configs I can maybe do that later tonight, busy right after work but after

[fierce moss]

I’ll need a path to it to update it eventually

Np. I’m down with pneumonia atm

Mostly sleeping

[toxic shard]

Oh no!

[fierce moss]

Ehh. I’ll be fine. I did it to myself.

Refused to go to doctor the last month as it’s hunting season and my wife would make me stop if i did lol

[toxic shard]

ANyone know what "No channel" means?

[craggy vigil]

Does anyone know if Lilygo has already been selling this?

[toxic shard]

#apple message

(What "No Channel" means)

[tardy steeple]

I was told 12/20

[tardy steeple]

Keys are not hand shaking

[toxic shard]

Meshtastic isn't that sophisticated. Keys are just part of node info

[tardy steeple]

I’ve been trying to get people involved and all 7 of them ended up making “ repeaters “ and won’t listen smh

[toxic shard]

As in they set their mode to "repeater"?

[tardy steeple]

Yeah, they all ended up watching this guy on Instagram that I kind of recommended and they they’re just out there

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDb4VLKRRv7/?igsh=MXBhc2loZHZqNDQzYQ==

madgearcompany

Edit: I’m having trouble keeping up with sending you all the build list link 😂 I’ve added it to the FAQs in my DMs, so please head there to grab the build list… Comment “build list” if you want a link for this build! We had all sorts of DMs asking what it takes to build this device, so I’ve consolidated a list of materials you’ll need on our Ama...

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[toxic shard]

Just send them this https://meshtastic.org/blog/choosing-the-right-device-role/

And if they don't listen, tell them to use frequency slot 55 "to match their antenna", then they'll be off on their own and not bothering people who read docs

[toxic shard]

@fierce moss I think this may be that same bug where the ends are transposed. I was confused because it makes it look like JW+ is talking to GF00, but if you swap the first and last node, it makes more sense. GFMS -> GF00 -> GFR1 -> GFR2 -> JW -> JW+ makes total sense.

[fierce moss]

yea

its correct if you swap them

could just be meshsense

[tardy steeple]

Anyone know if any place sells this local ?

[toxic shard]

Nope, sorry.

[fierce moss]

I don’t. Always grab em online

[tardy steeple]

Trying to get this node up and going today .

[tardy steeple]

I wonder if a Seeed XIAO ESP32S3 & Wio-SX1262 Kit for Meshtastic would be a better or comparable to deploy a repeator POE BBS

Not using this housing it’s obviously way too big .

[tardy steeple]

Every single time I open my app this appears and I have to force close

[toxic shard]

Never seen that. Probabl a question for #apple

[tardy steeple]

Maybe it’s my beta iOS . The problem doesn’t replicate on regular iOS

[toxic shard]

Not a fan of emoji shortnames. Other than being cute on the map, they're less useful. Can't sort them, difficult to filter by them, hard to use them for concice communication.

It was one thing when people sort of came up with it on its own. It's another when the Meshtastic blog says it's a good idea.

🤦

[void cape]

I get this all the time on regular iOS

[toxic shard]

I used to get more weirdness. Maybe I deleted the app and cleared the data at some point

Anyone hearing these messages from KC1OCA at Quabbin Reservoir?

[rare mulch]

i received on mine in Bristol. must have been pretty high up!'

[errant minnow]

I have one available.

[tardy steeple]

https://github.com/pdxlocations/MQTTc-for-Meshtastic

[jolly ruin]

anyone here have similar issues to this thread? https://meshtastic.discourse.group/t/heltec-v3-random-factory-resets/13769

seen this a few times now when battery dies..

[steel steppe]

Just a heads up we are placing two nodes, one in Enfield and one in Union. Both have just the stock antennas on them at the moment until we can get something better for them. Keep an eye out for them. They have short names HTEN and HTUN. I believe the Enfield one went up yesterday.

[craggy vigil]

https://store.rakwireless.com/products/wismesh-pocket-mini?

[toxic shard]

How is this 10db?

[fierce moss]

modified? lol

[tardy steeple]

Anyone use this ?

I just found this on AliExpress: $208.52 | Original Raspberry Pi LoRaWAN Module SX1302 SX1303 Mini PCIe 868M 915M Lora Gateway Hat Expansion Board in the stock
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrp6qld

[fierce moss]

No. You can print your own from like a pcbway for way cheaper

That’s crazy expensive

[tardy steeple]

Don’t know why the link said 208

[tardy steeple]

@fierce moss You have this right ?

[fierce moss]

Close to it.

I printed the boards

And soldered it myself

[tardy steeple]

I’m looking at making a POE BBS set up

[fierce moss]

As a physical node?

That’s a lot of hardware for just a bbs. That could be a full base station. Then build your BBS as a virtual node.

Entirely up to you. But i really like my pi+e22 as a rock solid base station.

Solid networking and processing power.

[tardy steeple]

@fierce moss Did you just send a test message on the net ?

I got a notification and a app banner but it’s not showing in the actual app

[fierce moss]

I did not a

Delayed push most likely

[tardy steeple]

The notifications are going off on my phone about great acres farm however, I’m not seeing anything inside the app. I am so confused.

Then the app is empty

[fierce moss]

Which node?

There’s 2 that can send automatic traffic

[tardy steeple]

Then my node shows as FFFF on my other phone

[tardy steeple]

I just got a t1000e .

I wanted the newer one that has a blacked out battery

[fierce moss]

Drop to an earlier firmware

Like one beta behind

[fierce moss]

What are you running?

You aren’t on 2.5 yet?

[tardy steeple]

This is what was on it when I received it

[fierce moss]

Oh

Yea. Absolutely upgrade. A

2.5 was a big upgrade. And though it’s supposed to be backwards compatible, it’s… kinda

Move everything to 2.5.3+

Major changes.

[severe quest]

Been working on this board the last few weeks, 1W LoRa module, esp32 based (I'm going to switch over to the nrf52 for power reasons), GPS, current/voltage monitoring, and MPPT solar capable, along with a few environment sensors

Once I switch to the NRF52 I'll probably add an OLED and maybe a card keyboard port, and maybe a regular SX1262 instead of this one with the PA

[fierce moss]

Nice

Nrf52 still using the 1w radio?

[severe quest]

Yeah, I'll probably have the radio be on an M.2 style board so it can be swapped out for the SX1262 and vice versa, depending on the application

The environment sensors, i2c port, and gps are on their own LDO switched regulator so they can be powered completely off unless a reading is needed, for added power efficiency

[tardy steeple]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDGwbIgzg5B/?igsh=MTNkbDhnbzRtd21hdg==

ttgo_by_lilygo

T-Deck Pro Progress Update

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[tardy steeple]

@fierce moss

I have my t beam supreme in an elevated position also running the mqtt in my area . Should I keep that on client or should I change it to

Router
Repeater
Router and Client

[fierce moss]

so, make sure it's on 2.5.15+

Router_Client no longer is a real option. its a dummy option.

But unless it's at some crazy elevation with miles and miles of line of sight, keep it on Client

itll still function perfectly.

You ONLY choose router for towers or special situations

it could prevent proper long range hops otherwise. damaging the mesh

as a client, itll still act as the gateway perfectly.

[radiant sequoia]

Morning...

[surreal sable]

Good morning

[fierce moss]

@tardy steeple are you bridging to PVMESH?

the mass people?

hrmm. why am i seeing these...

weird. i had random egress data leaking in from the default mqtt. should be fixed now....

lets test

[steady solar]

Resetting nodedb yee haw

my rak4631 solar roof node lost fixed position randomly, when i reapplied it, after the reboot the name got lost. hate how finnicky this firmware is.

[radiant sequoia]

the name losing thing seems to be a big issue and not always with the RAK...

even one recent firmware...

annoying when the device is remote

[steady solar]

Yeah, when you just want it to work and not check up on it every few days/weeks

I think when I have access to a big ol ladder again I'm going to swap out my 10dbi antenna on the roof to the 8.5 or 5.8dbi. Feel like I'm missing way too much by shooting too flat

10dbi - 12 degree vertical
8.5dbi - 14 degree vertical
5.8dbi - 35 degree vertical
@fierce moss any thoughts, particularly for my location?

[fierce moss]

client

you still cover that whole area, but it isnt a backhauler

[steady solar]

I just want to get maximum coverage over the area while still being able to reliably connect to you

I got a whisper of a 'mount tom pond' node that apparently has been around for at least 3 months, first time i saw it. feel like i should be able to cover that area too

[fierce moss]

yea. the mode wont change that. we dont come close at all to 7 hops away lol

youll always be 1 hop at client

hrmm. dunno. depends where they are

a lot of people just have a couple heltecs in their living room

so you get tiny errant packets

or, they just dont have the elevation to really get out

i feel thats why discord is nice. helps us to help them find optimal spots. or motivation to get a "real" base station mounted

The only difference with Router mode is that it grabs and relays things SOONER than a client. So other clients will see that a router grabbed it and then they wont hop it.

the bad thing about it is, if Johnny Q Newbie doesnt know that, and puts his living room heltec into router mode, it means things could stop there.... and not be relayed by a better situated client that actually needs to/can relay it.

[steady solar]

Top of mountain = router
Top of tall skyscraper = router
Everyone else = client(mute/hidden) 🙂

[fierce moss]

well, normal client

[steady solar]

There's still a router_client I see in manhattan when a plane flies over, thing probably can't get touched

[fierce moss]

Base Station and Car = Client.

the 90 other nodes in your drawer/table/shower, Client Mute

[fierce moss]

Router_Client is just another name for Client now.

it was left in there so firmware upgrades/config files still work

[steady solar]

It's still on a really old firmware so it's still actually router_client 😬

[fierce moss]

oh.... lol

[steady solar]

Just reset my nodedb so i can't screenshot but yeah, it's been there for like a year

Was hoping they would update once 2.5 hit but i'm pretty sure it's just a set and forget node for someone

[fierce moss]

im resetting meshsense nodedb and my base station db now

and moving some VMs around

meshsense will be back in 10min

trying to figure out how its seeing those people in MASS over mqtt.
I dont want MQTT garbage in our mesh

[fierce moss]

the only MQTT traffic should be temporarily bridged folk that are within our area. and are actively working to LoRa mesh in

[toxic shard]

I want to know how I'm getting it at 6.25dB, that means "in my house", but nothing here is downlinking MQTT

and even then, the only thing uplinking is JW+ and it's pointed at Liam

[fierce moss]

agreed.

[toxic shard]

is z2 @severe quest ?

[fierce moss]

i think so. i just deleted my db...

ghost, zu and you were the only people allowed to mqtt.

[toxic shard]

This is a nice RF route

[fierce moss]

agreed. i wish it were reliable

[toxic shard]

Yeah, but it gives hope

[fierce moss]

correct

[toxic shard]

Those routes going off north are PVEC 😕

[severe quest]

z2 is not me

[fierce moss]

when DJ gets us on the torrington tower, itll be so nice

[toxic shard]

Thanks @severe quest for confirming

[fierce moss]

@zuu , you dont have any other mqtt configured right?

[severe quest]

Correct, just ZB1

[fierce moss]

ok. just making sure. that PV mesh in mass is somehow connected in. trying to see where it's propigating from

[severe quest]

‘Zuu’ is my portable node, no mqtt access

Besides through ZB1

[fierce moss]

its probably ghost

some node around him linked

will need to find and block it

shouldnt be hard once he is around

[toxic shard]

More z2 detail

Not sure it’s a problem, but it’s at least a symptom.

[steady solar]

resets nodedb
an hour later "Hello from SWA717!"

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-pissed-off-office-throw-gif-17229290

[toxic shard]

Another impossible one

[steady solar]

hes the one sending the SWA717 messages

[toxic shard]

Ahh, sorry, I hadn’t seen the node info when I saw the SWA message and didn’t notice the id match

Even if on a plane, I have a hard time buying that SNR. This was received on CARD, a t1000e with a crappy antenna. Indoors

[steady solar]

that line of sight is nuts! 🤣

[tardy steeple]

No idea . I just set it up and left it on my roof.

[tardy steeple]

It shows he’s connected mqtt on my end

[toxic shard]

Hmm

My biggest problem is I can’t trigger this anomaly so testing via trial and error is nothing but ambiguous results.

@fierce moss Do you have a guide on your OTA rak update process? I want to try it with SOL. It’s still on a 2.4 release, maybe that’s contributing to the weirdness.

[fierce moss]

i have a shorthand list i wrote myself i can paste here

[tardy steeple]

Swa717 flight path

[fierce moss]

Seriously...

[radiant sequoia]

😩

[toxic shard]

@radiant sequoia did you have a node forget its name / location besides turkey hill?

(Sort of annoying that one of the PVEC nodes is also called Turkey Hill, obviously I’m referring to the local one)

This anyone?

[fierce moss]

my freakin base station lost it's static position

its like once a month

[tardy steeple]

Ever since my iOS app updated ive been having issues

[fierce moss]

you know i can NEVER traceroute chipanee.... but random Traceroutes make it THROUGH chip lol

oooh

one came back

if only i hadnt deleted my nodedb lol

id have found the path

that TR found its way TO chip. which is good

failed lora back but found a path via mqtt

[radiant sequoia]

ya, station g2 at my house.... it was weird... but yes plus turkey

[toxic shard]

Super weird, very different hardware

[radiant sequoia]

yep

but the RAK's are far worse... I think the one in my truck did too once...

[toxic shard]

Holly Hill is on wifi in Rocky Hill. Turkey Hill is rak no wifi

I think maybe whatever that FFFF is is the prob. Maybe.

[tardy steeple]

My node was FFFF I had to erase it 2x and update firm ware 2x

[fierce moss]

when?

[tardy steeple]

Yesterday

[fierce moss]

FFFFF probably just means it was an overflow for the variable

my screenshot was 10min ago

[tardy steeple]

That was my t1000e and my rak is now being an asshole and won’t save a region

[fierce moss]

its not just you

[tardy steeple]

My wife said it’s the drones messing up my radios lol

[fierce moss]

ive had my region unset a few times too

[tardy steeple]

Weird stuff happening everywhere

[radiant sequoia]

Anyone have any thoughts on this one, the gafnet entries....

seeing that a lot, not just on mine....

[toxic shard]

GAFnet means someone using Gary's MQTT

a416 is @hoary oxide

how are you seeing that screen @radiant sequoia ?

I don't recognize it

SOL is on 2.4.2, but it's below zero out and I don't want to be taking it down, taking it out of it's enclosure, etc. Thus wanting to OTA update it

It's in one of these but without the solar panel lid. The USB is not accessible and I can't even fit a 90° adapter in. Do not recommend. I'm replacing it with a more typical enclosure eventually. https://store.rokland.com/products/rak-wireless-solar-unify-enclosure-ip67-150x100x45mm-pre-mounted-m8-5-pin-rp-sma-connector-pid-910421

[tardy steeple]

I have one of these and it’s on my dad’s house in milford and it’s completely dead . Entire panel is caked with dirt

[toxic shard]

My main issue is I don't get enough sun where I've got it mounted, so the lid panel didn't fit my application. Also I've found the waterproofing on these Unify enclosures is inadiquate, especially given their premium price. No USB, not waterproofed well, RP-SMA eww. I'm not buying more of them for sure.

[radiant sequoia]

meshmap

[toxic shard]

.app or .net?

I see it now, meshmap.net. That map didn't used to have this detail

@fierce moss do you publish to the official meshtastic broker too?

[radiant sequoia]

net

[fierce moss]

I think so. Liam’s i know i do. I think i do the main too. I’ll look in a bit

[toxic shard]

So yeah, that just means that last time (27min ago in my screenshot), the Turkey Hill station was heard by the official broker via Gary's node. c986 is his base station

Before that it was a416, which is codefast's

[radiant sequoia]

I get that part, it's the root topic that was throwing me off....

[toxic shard]

When Gary opened up users on his broker that was the topic in the suggested config.

[tardy steeple]

Looks like I’ll be putting together something shortly

[toxic shard]

Assuming your neighbor doesn't nip it

[fierce moss]

Yea. Gafnet is just my publishing topic

They all get scraped.

It’s best to use a unique one if you do internal mqtt stuff too.

[toxic shard]

good tip

[fierce moss]

Plus it’s a good way to see the ingress point on a map like that

Someone could be like “i don’t want to be published, but i need mqtt”

Then they could track down gafnet, talk to me, and i could block the node

[toxic shard]

I've moved SOL onto an atypical frequency slot to kind of take it out of the mesh and see if it's older firmware is part of the issue.

Unwin G2 should still make most of the same links

[tardy steeple]

Funny you mention that ! I caught her red handed !

[radiant sequoia]

d'oh!

New update to ios mesh app today.... updates happening often now...

[tardy steeple]

Ooo joy the last one nothing but issues

[radiant sequoia]

heh

[toxic shard]

nice, thanks for the heads up

[toxic shard]

I’ve reached the DC load test stage of too deep lol

[toxic shard]

Nothing important going on, just validating the capacity of a battery I'm considering for my mobile G2 node.

[radiant sequoia]

are you trying to contact aliens with that thing....

[toxic shard]

If it'll help me reach East Berlin, whatever it takes

[fierce moss]

Speaking of batteries. These last few days will be the test case for charging in 0 degree weather

Need to check voltages

TFG at 99%

Looking good

[toxic shard]

I've disabled the ConnNet secondary channel on JW+ to simplify it's config while troubleshooting these PVEC oddities.

I don't think that will actually do anything, but gotta keep trying

short of turning off mqtt entirely, i dunno what else to do.

Interesting, I think I'm seeing @fierce moss's meshsense in my G2 traces in MeshTXT

MeshTXT shows the trace weird like MeshSense does

[solemn spear]

Hm…

[toxic shard]

{
    "id": "6ba61a5c-848e-4ec6-b2a2-8df5eef9b34b",
    "packet_id": 997766395,
    "to": 2733365340, // Unwin Station G2
    "from": 848867947, // Great Acres Farm - MeshSense
    "channel": 0,
    "data": {
        "route": [
            1857092937, // Great Acres Farm - Base Station - WG4RY
            2807528815, // Great Acres Farm - TF&G Rtr - WG4RY
            2632343031  // Great Acres Farm - Chip Rtr - WG4RY
        ],
        "snrTowards": [
            0,
            25,
            -46,
            -20
        ],
        "routeBack": [],
        "snrBack": []
    },
    "timestamp": 1734996926871,
    "rx_timestamp": 1734996925000
}

Basically these clients get confused when they see a trace they didn't initiate.

[fierce moss]

Remote admin to it or connect to it over ble

Set to client mode

Make sure power saving is off!

DISCONNECT CLIENT-
Set node to NONE on android client!

Download new firmware from git

Open in "My Files" client

Extract Firmware-rak4631-xxx-ota.zip - from main zip.
leave this zip compressed.

use app "NRF CONNECT"

Redresh

Connect

Dfu- tiny curcle top right

select Zip file

Click OK

There will be ONE scarry/red line. Normal.

Another red at end. Normal.

Great success!

Check all settings.

Set back to router mode (will disable BLE)

[toxic shard]

Thanks

[fierce moss]

np

[toxic shard]

Non-meshtastic related, but wanted to hype the VGC VR-N76 ham radio handheld again. The latest firmware allowed me to use RadioMail for iOS directly to do WinLink, and it even did the frequency selection

[radiant sequoia]

The best I may be able to do is get something on top of east berlin firehouse.... not super high, but would be something... I'd need to buy another self-contained solar one.... and put a decent antenna with it

I saw your email, just didn't get a chance to reply....

[toxic shard]

I can donate another solar one to the cause, let me see what the line of site is from there.

[potent ravine]

@radiant sequoia Well, well, well. Look who the wind blew in

[radiant sequoia]

oh boy....

been here for a while, just didn't realize there was a CT group embedded in the list...

[tardy steeple]

Check this out when you get a second

https://youtu.be/2QbwW1Sgy5o?si=1cR5vzeWQqNfpn5P

[potent ravine]

I stop in from time to time. Nodes are dead. Forgot to charge them

[tardy steeple]

My phone will keep going off I can’t forget

[potent ravine]

Yeah, I get enough notifications on my phone, if everything from my nodes pushed. I'd throw my phone out the window

[radiant sequoia]

just plug them in silly!

[potent ravine]

Ill get to it

[radiant sequoia]

[toxic shard]

Hmm, still got a PVEC message from R2D2 bot:

Packet Detail
X
{
  "from": 3957910967,
  "to": 4294967295,
  "channel": 0,
  "decoded": {
    "portnum": "TEXT_MESSAGE_APP",
    "payload": "KDIvMikgbXBoLiBDaGFuY2Ugb2YgcHJlY2lwaXRhdGlvbiBpcyAxMDAlLiBOZXcgc25vdyBhY2N1bXVsYXRpb24gb2YgYXJvdW5kIG9uZSBpbmNoIHBvc3NpYmxlLg==",
    "wantResponse": false,
    "dest": 0,
    "source": 0,
    "requestId": 0,
    "replyId": 0,
    "emoji": 0
  },
  "id": 3709951762,
  "rxTime": 1735036270,
  "rxSnr": 5.75,
  "hopLimit": 0,
  "wantAck": false,
  "priority": "UNSET",
  "rxRssi": -81,
  "delayed": "NO_DELAY",
  "viaMqtt": false,
  "hopStart": 0,
  "publicKey": "",
  "pkiEncrypted": false,
  "message": {
    "id": 3709951762,
    "rxTime": "2024-12-24T10:31:10.000Z",
    "type": "broadcast",
    "from": 3957910967,
    "to": 4294967295,
    "channel": 0,
    "data": "(2/2) mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of around one inch possible.",
    "show": true
  }
}

Trying to think of anything this could be other than "JW+, which is connected to Liam's broker, with downlink disabled, is receiving these messages via that connection"

My G2 has wifi disabled. My T-Echo has no wifi, my RAKs have no wifi. My Seeed CARD has no wifi.

CARD, which is paired to my phone, has MQTT disabled and has MQTT Client Proxy disabled.

[tardy steeple]

I received that r2d2 on my t1000e

[radiant sequoia]

me too

[toxic shard]

when you long-press on the message from R2D2 does it give you an SNR in the message details?

[tardy steeple]

Negative

[toxic shard]

Interesting

mine said SNR 10.25dB and RSSI 0dBm on CARD

[radiant sequoia]

does enabling serial output add anything in meshsense in terms of level of verbosity or detail?

mine was snr or .75 and 0 on rssi

[toxic shard]

Dunno, good question

[tardy steeple]

I had someone ask me to make them this set up and she couldn’t get any battery in it so I made it taller .

Not bad for a $28 set up

[toxic shard]

OTA update worked. SOL is now on 2.5.15 and back on the mesh default frequency slot

[fierce moss]

Nice!

[tardy steeple]

Hopefully I can program this and get it up .

POE Repeater BBS
Rak wireless board 19007

Raspberry pi w2 with headers
Waveshare poe hat
Cavity filter

[craggy vigil]

Merry Christmas to All from Seeed Pod!

[fierce moss]

Which cavity filter?

I was thinking of putting one in the new Torrington node if DJ says we have time

[tardy steeple]

ACASOM

[fierce moss]

Do any testing on it?

[tardy steeple]

Negative

[jolly ruin]

Excuse my ignorance and lack of google searching. What's cavity filter good for?

[tardy steeple]

cavity filter that provides low-loss filtering of 915 MHz LoRa signals between an antenna and a LoRa device. Increases signal SNR, reduces out of band harmonics, and allows for the weaker and distant nodes to be heard.

Provides a general SNR improvement.

[toxic shard]

There is a cost (besides $$), it atenuates the signal so the total received power is lower, and the transmitted power is lower. But often the trade off is worth it, especially if it's well tuned. If other signals are desensitizing your receiver, it can save the day.

This is more important if the node is sharing a mast with another transmitter, or if there is a lot of out of band sources to contend with. But it's not always a help and can make things worth if it's not needed, so better to test.

I think for most nodes it's not needed, but that the negatives and positives would moslty wash out.

[tardy steeple]

Guy wants me to put a node on the roof . I don’t think it’s worth it .

[toxic shard]

As long as it's "Client" mode, I don't see a problem

A non-penetrating roof mount like what @fierce moss used for Chippanee would be good. Or if Homer can screw into the structure somewhere, even better.

Even if he got it up 20ft AGL, it's nothing special. Could be a good general part of a mesh, but it's not going to be a core piece.

I've seen worse 🙂

[toxic shard]

https://youtu.be/PND1GlMSrEM?si=3PzG5GdnlxOW_E_H

[fierce moss]

https://heywhatsthat.com/

oh, unwin did it lol

[fierce moss]

interesting. glad i never did a waveshare

[tardy steeple]

cults3d

[tardy steeple]

PSA: You should should stop using the Waveshare Hat for Raspberry Pi nodes (and probably any node that doesn't have a TCXO).
https://youtu.be/PND1GlMSrEM?si=7EG5uNCF4ofa_YoZ

[toxic shard]

I already shared that video

[fierce moss]

Yea like 3 messages above lol

But yea, glad i went with the e22

[void cape]

Does the station g2 have that issue?

[tardy steeple]

Ahhh I see it . Too much “ egg nog “

[toxic shard]

Pretty sure not but maybe Neil will be able to confirm

[tardy steeple]

tldr: waveshare hats for pi suffer from passive crystal issues, corrupting long packets, similar to the T114 v1

[sudden locust]

https://wiki.uniteng.com/en/meshtastic/station-g2#reference-clock-tcxo-for-lora
This link should bring some confidence 🙂 The SG2 was designed with thermal design in mind.

[sudden locust]

This should be easy to test, set up a network of two devices and send some long messages 🙂

Up to today, I have not seen or received reports of this problem with SG2, nano g2 ultra, etc.

Previous generation designs, such as Station G1 uses a 10ppm crystal, non-tcxo. However, I have not received any reports of long packet problems with Station G1.

[void cape]

I’ll take your word for sure; if you can write a test specification you know your stuff lol

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard

Have you ever used these ?

I think you posted something looked like this

[toxic shard]

I have a bunch, haven’t built with them yet

[tardy steeple]

Oooo you posted the rak green I just looked back

What’s better I haven’t used either yet .

So we just don’t use any node that doesn't have a TCXO from here on out I assume ?

[fierce moss]

Yup

[rare mulch]

Someone is yanking my chain

[tardy steeple]

I have messages from 50days ago popping up I’m lost

[void cape]

I’m convinced the 2.5 has a memory corruption issue on certain hardware

It seems like RAK nodes in particular have this issue

Just my casual observation

[steady solar]

That's happened to me before, I was floating in the Atlantic for some time... just gps things. I usually set static even if it has a gps and the device doesn't move.

I was all over bristol today and was frequently attempting traceroutes to your base but couldn't get anything

[steady solar]

Are you on 2.5.15?

I have suspicions there are issues with multiple platforms when it comes to longevity...

[void cape]

I’m not having issues but just seeing other people’s nodes misbehaving

[rare mulch]

I always assumed floating in the ocean has more to do with default GPS coordinates before acquiri g a fix.

This person is only three hops away, but is in Canada? They showed up on my node map.

[rare mulch]

ZP1 is that tbeam you gave me, i bet its glitched. ZP6 is my solar setup and should be pretty reliable.

[steady solar]

I tried pinging that too with no luck unfortunately

[rare mulch]

Weird.

[steady solar]

Probably if a lock is lost too? I've had my GPS jump countries after being connected to satellites for weeks. Rare, but it happens

[rare mulch]

Oh I see.

[steady solar]

Big world traveler

@toxic shard I got you from Walmart area in Bristol today 😀

[rare mulch]

I should take a trip to Bermuda. See if I can reach anyone from there. Purely scientific.

[steady solar]

Research 🕵️

[rare mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/merlin-sword-in-the-stone-bermuda-blow-me-to-bermuda-gif-13523623

[toxic shard]

Nice

[toxic shard]

Thanks for the reply Neil 👍

[tardy steeple]

Are these affected ?

[toxic shard]

That isn't enough info for us to know what you're talking about

I can't get a reliable Meshtastic message to East Berlin yet, but I can freakin 10M FT8 to Christmas Island on 10 watts. RF, you are cruel

[tardy steeple]

The hat waveshare

[void cape]

That device doesn’t appear to have LoRa on it; doesn’t apply.

Side note; those 3 USB ports are sharing a USB 2.0 with that Ethernet port. It’s probably unreliable for long term use.

There are much better options out there if you want Ethernet.

[tardy steeple]

This was a build strictly from what this video included

https://youtu.be/AFeyqgVLzYM?si=drPLULBmegHAIp3n

[toxic shard]

Plainville to Bristol to Berlin To Rocky Hill, and back

Funny part is what prompted me to send this trace was seeing HILL at 1 hop in my node list.

[fierce moss]

I wasnt a fan of this build as it relies on power being uninturrupted

for the Rak side

thats too strong a failure point

he used a UPS or internal backup batery

i think the image above was just a pi zero w2 with a network hat on it

no lora involved yet

[tardy steeple]

I opened my app last night sorted by “ online “ and attempted to run trace routes on 10 nodes and not one worked

[fierce moss]

which app/which node? any did you try any in the same room?

or same house

on latest firmware?

[tardy steeple]

Just went down the list of online

[fierce moss]

yea but what is your node/what app

[tardy steeple]

Tt96
Turbotaco
Meshtastic app iOS

[fierce moss]

i dont know what that is

a rak? g2? tbeam? techo?

[tardy steeple]

T1000e

[fierce moss]

ahh that card thing

do you have 2 nodes?

[tardy steeple]

I have several

[fierce moss]

first thing is to always make sure that 2 nodes can talk across the room. and antennas are tight. (j thing that one has an internal though)

[fierce moss]

Direct Message ensures 2 way with an Ack

if on 2.5+

if that works, then a traceroute between those 2 should work.

[fierce moss]

thats a good start

have any known local nodes ? within a few miles?

or even GF00 over mqtt

[fierce moss]

looks like its working fine

freakin planes keep tossing in Mass lol

[toxic shard]

You can't trace super quickly, it takes time and the regular firmware has a timeout as well.

I don't think Mass is planes

I think mass is someone with an old firmware on mqtt

[tardy steeple]

True . I just went with what I saw on YouTube and went with it .

[fierce moss]

Ive been monitoring MQTT, at least on my server. no mass ones coming through

[toxic shard]

Well, I'm talking the PVEC guys, not just mass in general

Did you see the VSUN and other PVEC traffic this morning?

[tardy steeple]

That New Jersey one is one that made me start looking at traceroutes

[fierce moss]

it was spotty but i saw it

didnt catch all packets

[toxic shard]

Traces get more unreliable the further nodes are and the more hops. It's tempting, but it's not usually useful. Try running MeshSense on a PC if you want to see paths

[tardy steeple]

Ok will do . Appreciate the advice

[fierce moss]

I didnt get ALL of that. i saw the 2/3. not the R2D2

[toxic shard]

I can't explain why these show as zero hops 6dB

[fierce moss]

yea those messages did not originate on my mqtt

they came in via lora

to me at least

[toxic shard]

MeshSense says if the packet reports itself as mqtt, but that requires newer firmware I'm guessing

[fierce moss]

the packet can be tagged anywhere along the line as mqtt

and then hop lora again

so not sure where it's coming from

it could be MQTT within the PV network. and then hop LoRa on a plane

or whatever path its using

which would account for it being so spotty

[toxic shard]

I'm confused why my meshsense seems to show the mqtt links directly

[fierce moss]

the PV people do have a single private broker in the nwtwork

i dont know.

[toxic shard]

Do we know any of these PV folks? Can we get them in here to try some stuff and see?

[fierce moss]

yea

@devout plaza helps organize them a bit

[steady solar]

i was testing telemetry/discovery had to reset everthing **again **last night lol

[fierce moss]

i think it's meshsense

because i get the same kinda result

and thats def not the path

for those

[toxic shard]

Oh, I'm certain it is not, but it shows zero hops and 6dB snr, which is the part that drives me nuts

Their trace map might suggest paths https://pvmesh.org/network/map/

[fierce moss]

Great Acres Farm - Chip Rtr - WG4RY
ZingPopSolar-e69e
ZPMa230

[toxic shard]

@rare mulch what mqtt do you have going on?

Sent an email to PVEC Ted to ask him to join us here for some troubleshooting

[fierce moss]

i love seeing GFMS -> GF00 -> GFR1 -> GFR2 -> G2 -> JW+

the higland ave tower DJ is hooking us up with is going to squash these issues

[toxic shard]

I don't follow what you mean about the issues

Just removing hops? Or some other issue?

[devout plaza]

What sort of troubleshooting do you want to do? I run the R2D2 node and pvmesh.org website.

[toxic shard]

Excellent!

First off, kudos, you've got some cool stuff

The "issue" is, for me at least, that the traffic is showing up looking local and implausible.

I've got a bunch of nodes, but the only one doing MQTT in my home is JW+ "Unwin Supreme". It is connected to Liam's mesh map mqtt broker, uplink only. So when I see PVEC traffic at zero hops and 6+ dB SNR, I'm wicked confused

If you scroll up a bit of today's chat you'll see me seeing the VSUN messages here in Plainville CT

[toxic shard]

This is an example of the unexplained

[devout plaza]

I've seen the mentions of this earlier in the text. I'm at a loss to explain it though. We have 4 nodes doing MQTT - uplink only to a private MQTT server. There could be some other node in our mesh that is connected to the public MQTT server or Liam's but I am not aware of any. Are you observing the packets directly or via some software? I've noticed that if the traffic passes through a node on pre 2.5 firmware the hop count is not present. I don't know how an application will present that to the end user.

[toxic shard]

Here’s more showing no sense. This is showing local on my t1000e

My guess is an old firmware node too, but it's just super weird.

Have you seen any CT nodes as a common path? Anything show up weird like this up there from our side?

[devout plaza]

Signal strength seems to be from the node you are getting your traffic from, not the actual station at least in my Android application. If you have a relay nearby it would be interesting to see the signal strength there. I've tried tracing to some of the CT nodes when they appear but never get a completed traceroute.

[toxic shard]

The signal strengths are off the chart, like "in the house" loud. Which is super weird.

This happens pretty regularly, I'd say most days

If you could try to message JW+ sometime maybe, see if it works

(if you'd even seen JW+, I guess)

ok I got your test

{
  "from": 3064954379,
  "to": 1129837892,
  "channel": 0,
  "decoded": {
    "portnum": "TEXT_MESSAGE_APP",
    "payload": "dGVzdA==",
    "wantResponse": false,
    "dest": 0,
    "source": 0,
    "requestId": 0,
    "replyId": 0,
    "emoji": 0,
    "bitfield": 0
  },
  "id": 464282305,
  "rxTime": 1735313671,
  "rxSnr": 6.5,
  "hopLimit": 1,
  "wantAck": true,
  "priority": "UNSET",
  "rxRssi": -18,
  "delayed": "NO_DELAY",
  "viaMqtt": false,
  "hopStart": 0,
  "publicKey": "v9ZTGbX4KBGbefBlstdHC2lS29kN5EmTHsk/+4wEbD0=",
  "pkiEncrypted": true,
  "message": {
    "id": 464282305,
    "rxTime": "2024-12-27T15:34:31.000Z",
    "type": "direct",
    "from": 3064954379,
    "to": 1129837892,
    "channel": 0,
    "data": "test",
    "show": true
  }
}

hop limit 1 is odd. SNR 6.5 is odd.

Sent a test back

[devout plaza]

I did not receive it. I'm going to have to get offline for a bit, but we can pick this back up via DM later if you like.

[toxic shard]

👍

So weird

For reference I'm DMing with Ed and I've got Jesse on Telegram

[toxic shard]

I wonder if it's someone commuting. Seem to mostly see those nodes in the morning, but it could just be that's when I'm noticing them. I don't have long enough logs to draw much of a conclusion.

[tardy steeple]

If a node is strictly transmitting Lora messages and it’s by a node that’s transmitting MQTT won’t that link up and bring it all together ?

[toxic shard]

I don't follow the question, sorry.

[tardy steeple]

My t1000e gets all the messages from up by you

[tardy steeple]

I edited it

[toxic shard]

Still not sure what you're saying, sorry.

[toxic shard]

If a node has MQTT enabled and is connected to an mqtt broker, and has downlink enabled (and the broker is passing data down, Liam's allegedly does not), then it will relay mqtt messages onto the RF mesh

You can see my nodes and I can see yours because one of your nodes is connected to Gary's broker via MQTT, and he is transmitting messages that I can hear over RF, via a few hops. And my nodes are heard by him on RF, and you're able to see them via MQTT and then your local RF from your wifi node.

That's a well behaved node report. It's labeled MQTT, and I can see how many hops (between where it left MQTT and myself, I imagine, as i think hops before MQTT are lost)

[toxic shard]

If you compare this with the earlier screenshot showing the PVEC nodes, you'll see the difference I'm ultimately talking about.

[fierce moss]

yea. MQTT to you is acting properly.
You are the only remote MQTT area linked into us.

the other 2 are within 1 router/client hop of Unwin. Just blocked by mountains atm

everyone will come of mqtt as we fix the holes

im going to start trying to work my way south next with my routers. as soon as we get highland ave up

i have a spot in prospect I think ill be able to hit

all the way from torrington

[toxic shard]

Sweet

[fierce moss]

DJ may have other spots too... torrington is just the priority

[tardy steeple]

Do yall think this extended vertically above a flat roof would be a good idea ?

[fierce moss]

id be skeptical ov it's use as a permenant solution without seeing reviews.

i would get the mount that we used at Chip. and a big aluminum pole

though if it has good reviews as a Perm mount, sure

[tardy steeple]

I saw this in one of the discord channels

[fierce moss]

There’s plenty of telescoping poles like that. They are generally for temporary deployments

[tardy steeple]

Ya I’m aiming for a simple permanent deployment. Thought a telescoping pole would be decent .

I rent don’t own . However I was told I can use a “ weather station “ on the roof

[toxic shard]

😉 https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-tcfp-49

[fierce moss]

I’d do the chip mount

Weight it down good. Add a long aluminum pole.

[radiant sequoia]

That's a little pricey...

[toxic shard]

Yeah, caviar ham

[toxic shard]

To be fair, it is 49ft long

[radiant sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/good-for-you-simon-cowell-britain's-got-talent-i-like-it-i-like-this-gif-13234263695491287761

[toxic shard]

For unknown reasons, my meshsense is sane right now

[steady solar]

@fierce moss Another day another antenna question... Do you think I'd still hit your base and/or tf&g if I switched from a 10dbi antenna to 5.8dbi? I'm noticing I'm missing a ton of local traffic because I'm shooting super flat. 12 degree vertical beamwidth vs 35

Right now I can trace you no problem every time. Just want to keep that up whilst not missing local things

[tardy steeple]

This is what Rokland told me I need for POE

Here is what we would suggest regarding a RAKwireless Meshtastic PoE Build:

Ok so there are a few ways to go about setting up a RAKwireless PoE Meshtastic build.
No matter what you will need these 3 items:
1.) Meshtastic starter kit
https://store.rokland.com/products/rak-wireless-wisblock-meshtastic-starter-kit
2.) RAKwireless PoE Injector PID 910071
https://store.rokland.com/collections/power-over-ethernet-poe/products/rakwireless-poe-injector-pid-910071
3.) PoE compatible Ethernet cable of preferred length
[This is the max length we currently carry] https://store.rokland.com/collections/power-over-ethernet-poe/products/25-ft-ethernet-cable-cat7-26awg-outdoor-rated-shielded-w-pure-copper-wire-for-helium-poe-sftp-rj-45-lan

Next you will need to choose your splitter. You can with use standard PoE spitters or the RAKwireless ethernet modules.

***Regular Splitter options (Power only / may work with RAK13800 or [RAK19017 w/ RAK19010]):
1.) ALFA Network Pi4-PoE 5V 3A Gigabit PoE Splitter For Raspberry Pi 4 USB-C or Meshtastic Starter Kit
https://store.rokland.com/products/alfa-network-pi4-poe-5v-3a-gigabit-poe-splitter-for-raspberry-pi-4-usb-c

or

2.) RAKwireless PoE Splitter 5v USB 48v type-C Power Over Ethernet Active for Raspberry Pi
https://store.rokland.com/products/rakwireless-poe-splitter-5v-usb-type-c-power-over-ethernet-active-for-raspberry-pi

***RAK ethernet modules (Both are needed for power and data):
1.)RAK Wireless WisBlock Ethernet Module RAK13800 VC PID: 100076
https://store.rokland.com/collections/modules/products/rak-wireless-wisblock-ethernet-module-rak13800-pid-100076
2.) PoE Module Silvertel Ag9905MT for RAK13800 (RAK19018) PID: 100095
https://store.rokland.com/collections/modules/products/poe-module-silvertel-ag9905mt-for-rak13800-rak19018-pid-100095

Let us know if you have any additional questions and we will do our best to help.

Respectfully,
Rokland Support

[toxic shard]

How do you know you're missing local things?

[steady solar]

Can't trace from close local areas that I have los over. Missing nodes that exist within my los almost entirely

[toxic shard]

What type of node are you running on that antenna?

[steady solar]

Rak4631

Full solar roof build based off TCC

[toxic shard]

I think it's a fair guess that a more modest gain antenna will improve local and not harm contact with Gary's nodes, but I can't say for sure. That trace makes it look like he's not hearing you amazing, and being 5dB weaker might or might not matter. You'll hear him well either way given the other side of the trace's SNR

Worse case, just subtract the difference in gain of the two antennas from that hops SNR. But it's likely not worst case.

[steady solar]

Hmm. That makes me wonder if I'll actually have a more reliable connection given a lower dbi

[fierce moss]

I think you’d be fine

[toxic shard]

If i was putting money on it, I'd put it on "fine" as well. But RF is cruel, testing is the answer

[steady solar]

Thanks guys, very helpful insight @toxic shard 😃

Hah yeah!

Looks like in the spring I'll be making changes

[toxic shard]

Sometimes I'd take 5 feet of height over 5db of gain

(definitely I'd take 5 meters of height)

[fierce moss]

Go outside and see if the crappy internal or AliExpress antennas work

I bet they do

[steady solar]

Yeahhhh, I made the decision on 10dbi very early on in the game heh

Oh well, a learning experience

[toxic shard]

try all the things, you'll learn from them all 🙂

[fierce moss]

It is. The 10dbi Rokland is VERY flat

[nimble vale]

Time to buy an extension ladder @steady solar

[fierce moss]

I have one on the barn, but ONLY because TFG is 1 mile away

I wanted the barn to be the flat extension southwards

After looking at all the terrain

Otherwise I’d have gone 5.5 or 8

[toxic shard]

I think SOL has the Rokland 8.5

Unwin G2 has the ALFA 5db one

between them I figure the area is covered

[steady solar]

I had the 8.5 under consideration but the vertical beamwidth on the 8.5 is only 14 degrees vs the 10dbi 12 degrees

Meanwhile the 5.8 is 35 degrees, massive step up

[toxic shard]

Test and see. Record SNR and RSSI from some known locations before and after.

(record as in logs or just screenshot it, or jot it down, doesn't have to be fancy)

[rare mulch]

Zp6solar in Bristol uses the 5db alpha antenna. It is, however, in a window not outside. Very professionaly installed.

Its also on sale
ALFA Network AOA-915-5ACM 5 dbi Omni Outdoor 915MHz 802.11ah Mini Antenna for LoRa HaLow Application https://a.co/d/a1YxSxk

[fierce moss]

@toxic shard i still think the PV stuff is when planes/cars bridge some nodes. probably just on the far side of their mqtt bridge

they fell off the meshsense map for me after 24 hours

all of them

[tardy steeple]

Never seen “ empty message “ before

[fierce moss]

proabably a corrupt packet

[toxic shard]

Why we hear them at all seems to be a transient node connection. That's not my concern. My concern is why they are reported as zero hops and 6+dB SNR

[tardy steeple]

I just ordered this and I’m trying to figure out what size hole I need to drill out .

[fierce moss]

yea i know. all the tracing is funky still.

[toxic shard]

My two waving replies were different actions in the iOS app. One was a "tapback" and one was a "reply"

both were of the waving emoji

[fierce moss]

cheapy calipers from harbor freight 🙂

[tardy steeple]

Maybe the tracing is not accurate ?

[toxic shard]

we know it's not, because physics, we're trying to figure out why mostly in case one of our things is misconfigured or someone needs to update their firmware

Shaking my head at all the nodes without 2.5

[fierce moss]

lol

yea

[toxic shard]

(open lock icon snitches on them)

[toxic shard]

mine fell off too

[tardy steeple]

How do I update a t beam again ? I forgot what buttons to press.

[toxic shard]

https://store.rokland.com/pages/lilygo-t-deck-h642-user-guide?srsltid=AfmBOoo3kcMSyQskJjm03VM_JfakOcfPw0zXTVfIxnNM_Q8OkdEL0kpP#section1

[fierce moss]

hold the track ball on boot

for DFU

[tardy steeple]

T-beam sorry

[fierce moss]

https://meshtastic.org/docs/hardware/devices/lilygo/tbeam/

the meshtastic github has flashing instructions for all hardware

boot is the one all the way at the bottom

[tardy steeple]

I’m holding boot and reset and letting go . Computer not responding

Prob doing it wrong

[rare mulch]

About a 5/8" hole for the connector, sold separately

(Told you it was professional)

UF. L / IPX to N type female pigtail has an o-ring, lockwasher and nut.

[fierce moss]

power it down.
then hold the boot button and plug it in to usb

helps if battery is out. not needed though

[tardy steeple]

Don’t know what’s going on . Having all sorts of issues . I was trying to use my wife’s windows laptop .

I uninstalled drivers rebooted

Reinstalled drivers rebooted

Still wasn’t working

Booted my Mac went right thru

[toxic shard]

New “so loud it’s in my head” node appeared. Anyone else see it?

[void cape]

It's really weird that you have so many nodes like that at your place.

[fierce moss]

Yea

I don’t generally get anything that loud

That isn’t mine

[fervent sky]

That node seemed to be down the street from me earlier today

[steady solar]

@fierce moss I just got an unsolicited message from meshbot?

Happened after I sent "mqtt messages 👀" to longfast

[toxic shard]

It is weird, and I think part of my focus on it is the obvious possibility that it's somehow my fault. But thus far I haven't found evidence of that other than a long history of being an idiot

[tardy steeple]

Have two Rak nodes completely unresponsive to both windows and Mac computers . Tried 3 different cords .

I can connect to them via the app on my iPhone

Can’t connect via serial ,flasher or dfu

I have access to roof and a bucket truck right now . FML

[void cape]

When using the software, try pressing the reset button just after clicking upload. You might get the timing right and enter the correct mode.

[tardy steeple]

The drive isn’t even showing .

[void cape]

Oh, is this a RAK?

[tardy steeple]

Yes

Now the app is saying “ unsupported “

[void cape]

If it’s a USB-C to USB-C cable, try flipping one end, and then the other.

Some USB-C devices are not wired with both the D+ and D- leads connected like they should be, which means that they are polarized in a sense

Statistically unlikely, but then again, USB power only cables exist so perhaps not.

This device has been super useful for debugging cables

[tardy steeple]

It was working fine this started after I updated 2.5

[void cape]

Is it possible that drawing more power means that the USB port isn’t working? Maybe disconnect the peripherals and program it, then connect them again.

[tardy steeple]

Maybe if I strip it down to a bare board

[void cape]

Sounds like a safe bet.

[void cape]

https://github.com/meshtastic/meshtastic/issues/1483

It looks like you may be able to kick it into DFU mode which will make the “flash drive” appear

To force the RAK11200 into download mode you need to connect the pin BOOT0 on the WisBlock Base RAK5005-O to GND and push the reset button.

Once you do that, it’ll probably accept the firmware on the computer

@tardy steeple ^

[tardy steeple]

Thank you . Appreciate it

[void cape]

If you can get it to do that, you will be able to flash the board if your USB cable is good. Just make sure you actually connect those pins and then push the reset; I’m used to the ESP32’s which only need reset for serial to work

DFU mode is a bit different since it makes the flash drive appear

You’re basically booting an alternative firmware by doing that.

[void cape]

Not from Harwinton

[fierce moss]

hrmm. messages is one of the key words but it usually needs more

[fierce moss]

pull power- any batteries/solar, plug in just usb. double tap the button to enter usb flash mode

drop the file in there and it will close/reset as soon as it copies

the Rak nodes dont do DFU

well, thats not true, but the primary method doesnt use a dfu serial flash

[void cape]

Is there a repeater somewhere in Harwinton? It seems to add an extra hop count in trace routes that is resulting in deterioration of message delivery.

Or, in the least, it seems to fight with dd_r_r1

Probably should ask for AE1B to put on client mute. That would also help since they’re just across the street and not really in an advantageous position enough to justify a hop.

That path is pretty wild though, it sends west to send east.

[toxic shard]

@fierce moss FYI i'm not seeing positions coming from GFR2 in the last 24hrs at least.

Seeing nodeinfo every hour and telemetry every 12 hours

but no positions.

[tardy steeple]

That works on my rak5005 not the new one 19007

Everything works on the 5005 actually

[toxic shard]

never had a problem

I'd return it and get another

[jolly ruin]

i've read the node db is supposed to cycle out older nodes once you hit 100.. but i'll get "new node" notifications for the same node multiple times in the same day. anyone else see that or am I special?

[tardy steeple]

A4

My board says Version C

[rare mulch]

Isn't that just a passive board that connects the things?

If you have another baseboard, can you put your module into it and program it over there?

[tardy steeple]

It’s the baseboard . I believe it’s defective . I put two other cores on it and same results.

I took the cores that were attached to this base and put on a different base and worked 100%

[fierce moss]

Yea. Probably lost position.

[steady solar]

Oh this is interesting, new client mode incoming https://github.com/meshtastic/protobufs/commit/c55f120a9c1ce90c85e4826907a0b9bcb2d5f5a2

[toxic shard]

I'd like to see more simulation of this working. It'd be nice for someone to do a series of simulations to show how things work among the modes because I think there a lot of misconception out there.

If I was feeling more ambitious I could do it, alas...

[toxic shard]

Repeater or something like it. So far we don't have contact with "mobi" in the channel, though I've reached out

Mobi I can hit direct, so they're likely in plainville or on a good sight line in southington. I think there's someone down that way who is doing meshtastic but not on the public channels, so maybe it's their node doing the repeating.

Obviously the locations aren't known and the trace line is just a guide not even a guess, but something not too far off is happening.

My guess is this node

Which is on the map but not the public channel

The dot below the selected one is 1c30

Based on some non-redacted positions in the past I think that's this fella, if anyone knows him https://www.linkedin.com/in/dennis-hwang-5a8a0ab/

[void cape]

I should set up my DF rig sometime and demystify some of these things. Maybe in the spring. I’ve got to upgrade to the pi5

[tardy steeple]

Kinda creepy

[graceful fox]

lol, you found me

My reception for everything is pretty bad in this location, so I'm surprised anything is getting out.

[toxic shard]

The map says "Has Default Channel: No", is that accurate?

[toxic shard]

What nodes can you hear?

[graceful fox]

Those are the direct ones. Not sure the "last heard" dates are correct, because I've got Mulligan 2fd8 as of about half an hour ago.

[jolly ruin]

just received this and flashed the nicsure mod. i really like the features at such a cheap price point, not to mention it comes with 3 antennas. will be playing with for a bit.

[graceful fox]

I think I have the default channel? Haven't received any messages in weeks though.

[toxic shard]

There's been a fair bit of traffic on it, at least a message or two daily.

I'd check the channel settings, maybe post a screenshot so we can see if it's got something off

[toxic shard]

Do you have just the one node?

According to the map it's got a very old firmware. Should be easy to flash an update using the web tool at https://flasher.meshtastic.org/

(use a Chrome-based browser such as.. Chrome.. or Edge or something like that)

This is another mystery node. I only seen encrypted traffic from it.

dd_t_base_2 is up in the Harwinton area, so maybe related

@graceful fox sent a test message on the primary channel from Unwin G2. That node hasn't seen you recently enough for me to try a DM. Did some DMs from CARD but no acks.

[graceful fox]

I'll update the firmware this afternoon. Here's the primary channel config. MQTT is off.

Haven't seen any messages in primary

[toxic shard]

Do you have a second node you could send a channel message from? That would confirm the config is ok. Nothing looks amiss in that screenshot.

[toxic shard]

@void cape do you know who dd up there is?

Curse of our growing mesh is me not being able to remember whose node is who in some areas. 😭

[void cape]

Yeah that’s @surreal sable

[toxic shard]

@surreal sable just wanted to check that you're intentionally only on that encrypted channel for dd_t_base_1 node. Asking because it looks odd from over here and trying to identify miconfigured nodes. Might be fine if this is how you're operating, no judgement, but if it's unintentional I wnated to let you know what I was seeing.

[surreal sable]

@toxic shard il have to check on it - its a node I have set up in bristol

[vague nimbus]

Why would someone else’s radio node matter to you ?

[toxic shard]

We've been troubleshooting odd message behavior so I'm trying to help ensure the public mesh is full of well configured nodes.

Checking the traffic on it? It's a public radio channel, the tools just show it.

[surreal sable]

But I do have encrypted channels on it - obviously the admin channel and another channel I use with work colleagues

[toxic shard]

That's cool. I wonder if that's your primary which is why it doesn't send nodeinfo

Apologies for sketching you out. Weird you saw it on your first day on this discord

[tardy steeple]

Stop take that crap to pm

[toxic shard]

I think this may be a ham culture thing, most of the people in this "US - Connecticut" topic are amature radio operators who found this space because of our awareeness of what was on the air in the mesh. No need to get uncivil. If @graceful fox is bothered by it I'll remove the message.

lol

[tardy steeple]

Go touch grass

[toxic shard]

The local mesh and this channel have been a positive and helpful place. Let's keep it that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyugfHPOFBE

[tardy steeple]

It was a joke @toxic shard is a good dude and he’s trying to improve things and be helpful

[toxic shard]

Hi @gilded mango haven't seen you in here before. I hear you on the ARES net regularly 🙂 73

[tardy steeple]

<@&871539460360269885> remove this troll please

[gilded mango]

In Trumbull but I'm using 434.9 MHz at the moment.

[toxic shard]

Very cool, haven't played with anything but the 33cm band yet myself for meshtastic

[tardy steeple]

Bye Felicia

[toxic shard]

I imagine you're not seeing a lot of other people on the lower UHF side of things. What hardware are you using to do that?

[gilded mango]

I think the 433 band will have greater range, better antennas and possibly power amp. But I'm still just experimenting with a 4 node mesh in the shack.

[proven stratus]

Rude

Banned

[gilded mango]

I have two Heltec V3, One Heltec T114 and a lilygo t-beam

[toxic shard]

Those do 434?

[gilded mango]

and no, since I'm not at 433 precisely I don't expect to talk to anyone but myself.

[toxic shard]

good for experimenting though!

[gilded mango]

yes, they do. I want to put an open (Unencrypted ham mode) node up by our repeater in BPort. Then I'll give a few others some nodes to experiment with.

[toxic shard]

Neat. I'll need to look into that.

[gilded mango]

and yes, all are available for 433 though they are harder to find. I also have a waveshare 433 hat for a pi zero, but I haven't added the software yet.

[tardy steeple]

I believe you can run LoRa up to 10w on 70cm. ?

[toxic shard]

there's some recent hubbub about the waveshare not working well without a tcxo, might want to check on that

[gilded mango]

👍 will do

Theoretically you can ron LoRa up to 1500W on 70cm if you are a licensed ham, but you would have to customize a ALC line. (and you would probably be crazy to do so.) The 2W amp I found so far does it internally.

ron=run

[tardy steeple]

I was going to say that I doubt any traffic would be on 433

[gilded mango]

I'm hoping to eventually write an emcom specific overlay for Meshtastic similar to the templates used in WinLink.

[toxic shard]

I bet you could get some longer distance stuff going though with the more power and lower freq. Classic ham experimenting stuff.

[tardy steeple]

@toxic shard do you think something like this would be beneficial to the network

Having 433 on one side and the 915 on the other ?

https://www.printables.com/model/964515-lorameshtastic-case

[toxic shard]

You could go from 433 to 915 but i wouldn't go the other way

Relaying non-ham-generated messages down there would be a no-no.

[gilded mango]

Ha! I took one similar to Dayton last May. But I blew it up on Saturday when I plugged it into the wrong charger. Dumb me didn't put a buck converter in it for 12V

[toxic shard]

but 70cm to 33cm bridge, or even an HF JS8Call to Meshtastic bridge could be interesting

Just has to be 1-way or ham-only to be legit

APRS to Meshtastic would be cool

that wouldn't be that hard to do.

[gilded mango]

I think once I get MT working well enough, the first step will be to make a gateway to feed MT traffic to APRS.FI

I've already been discussing this with my coding partner.

[toxic shard]

Just gotta avoid people bogarting callsigns that aren't theirs and making APRS-IS mad

[gilded mango]

yeah, there is that danger

[toxic shard]

Not that there's any stopping that even on the regular ham side, nothing technical anyhow

[gilded mango]

IKR? That guy jamming the DMR net is a Good (er bad) example

[toxic shard]

Meshtastic, trying ot squeeze APRS into LORA since 2020 or so

(I don't actually know precisely when the project started. I got into it back in 2022 before i was a ham)

[tardy steeple]

Anyone watch Andy Kirby on YouTube ?

Turn it into a RNode

https://liamcottle.github.io/rnode-flasher/

https://reticulum.network/index.html

https://unsigned.io/reticulum/

[toxic shard]

Andy's just finding content, he's posted about alternative LoRa systems before, all good

[radiant sequoia]

Saw you on conn net...

[toxic shard]

Cool. Re-enabled it on JW+ for more testing. I also have it on CARD where I'd usually see stuff.

[gilded mango]

OK - I'm shamed. 😔 I ordered an outdoor antenna for 915. Need to update the node firmware, but should have it on the air in a couple of days. Is it safe to assume that no-one is running in ham mode?

I read the reticulum info and the use case. Overall my feeling is that it will be great for people who think crypto currency is good for buying stuff you don't want anyone to know you are buying. Like "Hey honey, that new ham radio appeared completely out of thin air..."

[toxic shard]

You'll see occational people running in ham mode, but not typically. It makes it so you can't really communicate with non-hams. If I was doing ham stuff on 915 I'd probably use a different ham-specific frequency slot, but so far nobody I've seen has established a convention. By default everyone's slot is set at zero, which means automagic mode where it's based on their primary channel name(?). The effect is that almost everyone in 915 is on slot 20 which is like 906.25MHz or there abouts. I could see hams using something like slot 33 (33cm) or 73 (obvi), but unless it was widely communicated I don't know how that'd take off.

If for some reason you wanted to have your primary channel be something other than the default one with the embedded shared "private" key (aka the LongFast channel as some android users refer to it), you can manually set your slot to 20 and then you'll be part of the mesh but you won't see traffic on your primary channel from the public. You could make a secondary channel with the default key and you'd be able to get messages there, but it would make it so some functions on your nodes go to your custom primary vs the public secondary (I think nodeinfo, telemetry, etc, but i'm not certain yet)

That's what I think Corey did with dd_t_base_1, maybe. Though on his traffic it says the channel is 11 (it's one louder), so not sure.

yup, though I'd delete that image since it has the secret key in it. Usually we've exchanged that in DMs just so it's not lingering out there

[tardy steeple]

Done.

[toxic shard]

That was a Secondary channel, yes?

[tardy steeple]

Thought everyone would have it tho .

[toxic shard]

Anyone in here who wants it should be given it

but we haven't like put it in topic pinned or something for non-participants to find

[toxic shard]

Good good

Eventually I'll experiment with non-default primary, but I haven't yet

Before the per-channel position setting, you had to do a non-default primary if you wanted to share your position privately

[void cape]

Correct. Because it’s spread spectrum, I don’t think you can use the 1500W

[tardy steeple]

Just factory reset it by accident

[fierce moss]

Yea. Spread spectrum has its own restrictions

[toxic shard]

I keep the ConnNet key and all my node PSK secrets in my password manager

[void cape]

Dude. I would totally use JS8 to talk with the mesh

[toxic shard]

The password for that is hunter2

[toxic shard]

Let's make it happen 🙂

[toxic shard]

This is a bad computer security joke, btw

[tardy steeple]

What’s JS8

[toxic shard]

http://js8call.com/

It's a ham radio digital mode

sort of extends the techniques of FT8 for more general purpose chatting

[tardy steeple]

Ooo I’ll
Use that when I get properly licensed lol

[toxic shard]

https://tenor.com/eXotfslLQrK.gif

JS8Call is popular, but not super actively developed right now

"popular" as a ham radio digital text chat mode can be

DOH, TCC beats us again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLnYqUScXM

[void cape]

If we made a JS8 to mesh connector, it would be super cool. Maybe on 10m so that we can use it locally.

[toxic shard]

That would be a good use of a secondary channel people could opt into. I wonder if there's a grey area where mesh could go into a BBS type thing and ham could retreive messages. So it's not the unlicensed person causing the transmission. So Ham JS8 -> meshbot ->. mesh would be essentially real-time but mesh -> meshbot would spool and ham could retreive it later. Obvi not encrypted then. Someone might know the rules better than I do.

I guess this BBS just does what we're talking about mostly.

[tardy steeple]

If you look at his POE BBS that’s what set up . I just am now waiting for Rokland they are shipping me a new board .( rak wireless )

[toxic shard]

you could do the receive side of it before you get your license. A cheap SDR can pick up JS8 and you can decode it. Just can't transmit on the ham bands until licensed. How well you'd receive JS8 with an apartment setup might be a little iffy. HF benefits from space.

Not saying it can't work, I just don't have experience to attest to it or advise how to get a small space receiver working.

BUT, as you'll see in other videos, you can just use a web SDR to get the JS8 audio signal from someone else's radio if you want to do receiving and don't exactly care where exactly the RF is getting heard

[toxic shard]

https://www.patreon.com/posts/receive-only-89343708

I haven't done that myself, since I do have a wire antenna, but it sounded reasonable

Like with Meshtastic and APRS, most of the traffic on JS8Call is just automated heartbeats and beacons. It's nice when you see actual communication happening, but usually not so much.

[tardy steeple]

I’ll try to set that up this weekend . Have to go over to ny and back several times in the next few days

Hate the ferry

[toxic shard]

@void cape how about a CW to Meshtastic bot 😉 "- . ... - .. -. --."

[tardy steeple]

https://youtu.be/QSo5_VBnbsc?si=XYkaB1a4MNXu54DA

[toxic shard]

I've resisted buying one so far. That won't last forever, but I've got to get at least one of my nodes deployed before I add more to the collection

[steady solar]

Only reason I've resisted that is because lack of an external antenna hah

Prob going to do my own rak19003 with slightly bigger battery, on/off switch and external antenna to bring when hiking

[toxic shard]

yup, if I was them I'd have called this the pocket micro and made a pocket mini with an antenna option like the muzi h2t

[tardy steeple]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1302260756/

[fierce moss]

Same.

As well as what nodes have what allowed as admin secrets.

[toxic shard]

that last bit is smart, I gotta do that

I've only used the one key so far, but inevitably i'll want to rotate them, use multiple, etc

[fierce moss]

Put in 3. If a node dies later on you can always reuse the old key and it’ll work to be an admin node.

I did my car, base station. And g2

[toxic shard]

I'm going to build an e22 pi node very soon and I think that'll be one of the keys I add to all my nodes

[void cape]

I’d need to practice my CW first unless you like the canned CW my radio can do.

[toxic shard]

I'm beyond newb at CW. It was a goal for 2024... guess I'm not going to hit that.

[tardy steeple]

I sent “ test “ on Conn Net nothing replied

[toxic shard]

I joined the Long Island CW Club to try and learn, but didn't stick with it. Maybe 2025 is the year

[void cape]

There was a week where I spent some time trying to but it didn’t work out.

[toxic shard]

Is anyone down there on ConnNet?

Also, was this from your MQTT node? I'm not sure if an MQTT node would show an ack or not on a secondary channel

[tardy steeple]

Good point ! I was thinking it was MQTT

[toxic shard]

It probably went over MQTT too, but I don't know if it'd get an ack back

[tardy steeple]

No my MQTT node is only for the MQTT. It’s a base station

[toxic shard]

Does your MQTT node have ConnNet on it too, with the channel set to uplink?

For channel stuff it'd need to be configured at the channel level on the gateway device, the node that's connected to the internet mqtt broker

[toxic shard]

Then any node within RF range should bridge up MQTT as long as the RF node has 'Ok to MQTT' enabled. Meshtastic is so simple right? 😭

[tardy steeple]

I believe so I’m not 100% I can check in a few

[toxic shard]

A good way to see what's on the far side is to look at Gary's MeshSense https://meshsense.wg4ry.com/

@fierce moss does your meshsense cover the ConnNet channel too?

I think from what I'm seeing the answer is yes, but not certain

[tardy steeple]

So my t1000e connects to the mqtt base station I have but I don’t see any other messages to or from except my own

[steady solar]

500mah battery case 🤮
$20+ship for something I'm printing myself 🤮

Just gonna print the tonyg case for it

[tardy steeple]

I read the battery after

[toxic shard]

@tardy steeple make sure on the mqtt node that the uplink and downlink are enabled at the channel level

It looks like you're making it, this is from Gary's

[tardy steeple]

Ok 👍