#US - Minneapolis/St. Paul Metro

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cloud sequoia
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I've connected with Epson 2600 a few times already but I have no idea where the reliable location is

wide umbra
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with how many smaller nodes this area has, recommend bumping hop count to 7 and seeing if that gets you any further

cloud sequoia
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Alright I'll try it

ripe vector
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We are working on a bridge from the south metro to the north. Not very reliable at the moment.
I’m in south west Bloomington. Ghost mesh probably has the best shot up to the north nodes

cloud sequoia
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Worked for a second

wide umbra
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i just hit 100 nodes in my db too today

dreamy sapphire
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I had 100 but cleared out some old stuff

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Like those router client fools and other people I hadnt seen in 3 weeks+

quaint marlin
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RV2 has been down dor a day or so, so there could be some spotty patches in roseville

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at least i think it's down

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if anyone's able to sanity check that statement and tell me when the last telemetry packet they saw was, i'd appreciate it

junior slate
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Also, hello.

dreamy sapphire
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I also havent seen rv2 in over a day

quaint marlin
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yeah it's doing its weird "vacation" thing. I still have never been back up there to see what's up. Guess I can try tomorrow.

quaint marlin
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I think the charge controller is the issue. I am likely gonna have to replace it with something way more simple.

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Currently the node is running off of the charge controller's output, which I think was a mistake. I don't think it will even output something if the battery doesn't have at least 11v, and the G2 can run all the way down to like 8v or something... so I think I need to run straight off the batteries, and just let the charge controller handle charging the batteries.

quaint marlin
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but yeah we've had some new router folks, and even a router/client person just popped up "Not A Hacker" nearby.

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which means they're running even older firmware than I am

quaint marlin
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Also I am gonna suggest that we not berate the router and router/client folks too much. I think it's a perfectly normal and instinctual mistake to make. I know i've personally been maybe a little dismissive and frustrated with the fact that it exists that way in the past and even with the people doing it, but I think we're smart enough to find ways to solve that issue instead of blaming them.

quaint marlin
lavish vault
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I have to ask every here. What are you using Meshtastic for? Personally, aside from it being a hobby to play around with, it hasn't been reliable enough for me to use for any "real" communication. I got my son a T Deck (he doens't have a phone) to hopefully message me from school or his activities, but sadly his activities are in the Arden Hills/Shoreview Area and almost never reach directly up to Blaine.

viral pebble
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I think building the mesh out is a good first step for overlaying other stuff on top. There’s an experimental IP tunneling mode in the Linux version of the Meshtastic client, that’s a nice example, I keep meaning to mess with that. The data rates are atrocious, of course, but we used to all use dialup, too

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the way I see it, some kind of short document-oriented protocol like HTTP could enable some interesting possibilities

dreamy sapphire
quaint marlin
# lavish vault I have to ask every here. What are you using Meshtastic for? Personally, aside ...

I originally got into it for the off-grid/grid-down preparedness angle. For me that's still the #1 use case - text communication without grid dependence. That's why I'm not into mqtt and why even my stationary indoor nodes run via a battery backup system.
Actually trying to implement meshtastic quickly became a hobby/obsession because as you said, it's not reliable... until you get a mesh built out.

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speaking of... looks like RV2 is back from vacation 🤣

lavish vault
quaint marlin
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My theory is that it is only operating when the batteries are charged to a certain degree, probably around 90%.

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I would be able to have it fixed if I had roof access AFTER 11AM.... but the building guy is only there until 11, and my mornings are usually packed with work.

viral pebble
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I always thought off-grid/prepper stuff was too batshit for me until I moved to a house with spotty cell coverage and we had tornadoes in my state in December. Power went out and cellular was even worse than it usually was from congestion. Only thing I could get updates about the weather from the local skywarn net, but even that was iffy since I was in my basement, listening to VHF on a baofeng

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I'm not going to be buying gallon cans of beans any time soon but people should at least have what they need for a short power outage and immediate physical safety during storms. not that my solar node could take a hit from a real storm right now 😂

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but having a functional mesh across a local area is a good groundwork for the harder stuff, which is putting some kind of communication/informational infrastructure in place that can survive a power outage

ripe vector
quaint marlin
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the same can be said for a lot of not quite mainstream lifestyles

viral pebble
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for sure

viral pebble
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I ordered some nRF dev boards with an arduino pro micro footprint and some 30dB E22 modules. Then I noticed yesterday there are 33dB modules 😮 so I ordered one of those too. That's like a $15 (aliexpress pricing) node that can do 33dB lol

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I think they only need pins connected for SPI, and a good filter cap for the power connections. But my plan is to put that in my solar setup

bright grove
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Hello all. Glad to join the group.

quaint marlin
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mornin!

dreamy sapphire
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Howdy

lavish vault
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Hello

quaint marlin
quaint marlin
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just slapped an 8dbi antenna on my home HQ. With any luck it'll help me not need a step-up pole node right outside my house

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have been running a fiberglass 3dbi for the better part of 8-9 months.

wide umbra
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which antenna did you go with?

quaint marlin
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a 25.2" Rokland fiberglass.

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Rokland

Rokland 8 dBi N-Female 915 MHz low profile 25.2" fiberglass Helium antenna with N-female connector and U-bolt bracket mount. This is certified and designed for outdoor environments and is weatherproof. See also our NEW full size 40" 8.5 dBi model.Full spec sheet This antenna is compatible with the RAK V2, Bobcat 300, N

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to get out of my HQ I have to cut through my own house, my neighbor's house, and about 3 dozen other houses.. might as well give myself the best chance 😄

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this is the same antenna I have on RV1, and it's a candidate for the Tim's tower.

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but the 10dbi one I have on RV2 isn't much more expensive, and it's just impressive 😄

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This is RV2's

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Rokland

Introducing the Rokland Backcountry 10 dBi outdoor Helium & IoT 915 MHz 45" fiberglass antenna with N-male connector and U-bolt bracket mount. This is designed for very rural and remote locations and is not advisable for urban or suburban locations. With this very high gain, the signal can receive from a very long

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Not entirely sure why they would advise against it in urban/suburban except to discourage people from putting them on their 25ft roof and being disappointed

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Hey is anyone here the owner of RoamerSLP ? It's set up as a Router and I think it may actually be an OK one?

wide umbra
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superrr narrow vertical beamwidth

quaint marlin
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RoamerSLP is over by 394 and 100 apparently on a parking ramp or something, and it GPS reports to be almost 125ft over ground level.

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by my calcs, this is the coverage area

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which is super big, but does anyone know if that's actually legit? I seem to get a direct connection to it in St Paul (no hops?)

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I'm not really all that near even the edge of that theoretical coverage

viral pebble
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oops Lucas already said that

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like it would suck ass on a mountain

quaint marlin
viral pebble
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yeah. unless you just want to talk to other tall stuff

quaint marlin
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my understanding is that the angles are not all THAT narrow... like isn't 8dbi effectively like a 35 or 45 degree cone?

viral pebble
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hard to say since they don't publish their radiation field measurements. but it's also good to remember that it doesn't just hit 0 at the edge of that beamwidth, I think that's just the edge of unity gain?

quaint marlin
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Thoughts on the Tim's Tower? Since it's significantly taller than RV2 but not like CRAZY tall... 8dbi?

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I'd like to make sure the area right beneath and around there is covered decently

viral pebble
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I think that choice is in "gilding the lily" territory

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if I'm being honest

quaint marlin
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fair enough

viral pebble
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but I think that 10dbi antenna is probably overkill for most of us anyway haha

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only reason I ordered one is I'm gonna be putting a node on some heliax and want to overcome a bit of the loss

quaint marlin
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we've always got an excuse...

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😄

viral pebble
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I did a calculation, based on 120ft up, the beamwidth hits the ground about 564ft out

quaint marlin
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that's not too bad

viral pebble
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yeah not at all

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if you were on a mountain that would suck ass though, haha

quaint marlin
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I know for a fact there's some bleed, I get RV1 and RV2 from the parking lot at both locations

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no more than 50-100 feet from dead-center

viral pebble
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yeah, if you have LOS, that'll overcome anything. LoRa is very good at low power/high noise signals

quaint marlin
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alright then what I'm hearing is... another 45" 10dbi!

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ALL THE DBI'S!

viral pebble
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for giggles I put a crosshair in a random place in Hudson WI +100ft and you could probably at least pull telemetry over there once in a while

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assuming the TT one is 100ft up

quaint marlin
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it's no joke to get signal east of the loop

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I joined the wisconsin mesh discord (not very active) but man, when I saw how much of a pain it is to even get signal over there I stopped even checking in there.

viral pebble
quaint marlin
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oh and I just ordered a climbing harness. Figure I'm gonna need one, and might as well just get one.

viral pebble
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ok, sold.

dreamy sapphire
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@quaint marlin Did my message reach you?

quaint marlin
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I just got something from downtown st paul

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I don't think it's you though

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I am just about to run an errand, back in 30-40min but I'll have the car G2 on

dreamy sapphire
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Is there a way to see who acked on android?

quaint marlin
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No, I did not see that one

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but you picked up the question I had , that's pretty nuts!

dreamy sapphire
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Strange, remote 5 works

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Should have gotten over

quaint marlin
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That was from my brand new super tiny wisp so it must've gotten propagated around the mesh pretty well

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It might have run out of hops, there's no guarantee we use the same route to get to and for

dreamy sapphire
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Troo

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Darn hop limits being sensible in nature

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Give me a hacked firmware that reduces hops instead

quaint marlin
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When we can have three or four boomers acting as routers, everyone else can basically be client mute and we will probably be able to get across town in any direction in less than four or five hops

dreamy sapphire
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Just gotta figure out how to pipe an 8dbi and an omni on the same G2

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Then we'll really be cooking

quaint marlin
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I don't know if anybody has any experiments going with multiple antennas on the same node. I was goofing around with trying it out once but never went through with it.

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my thought would be, don't do it with an expensive node lol try it out with a spare heltec or something

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Honestly it's pretty awesome that you were able to get that message. I'm assuming that's at your home

viral pebble
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I think at some point we’ll see hardware with multiple LoRa radios and some kind of method of antenna diversity to switch between them but IDK for sure or what I’m actually talking about. I just know there can be multiple SPI devices on a bus

dreamy sapphire
quaint marlin
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i didn't even get your reply to my ack message at RV1 😢

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having a powerful outdoor node should change that.

random mantle
quaint marlin
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i think the new antenna on my home node is making a difference. seems like it's getting further before eating up hops

random mantle
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Showing 2 hops for me, but traceroute isn't completing 😦

quaint marlin
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those almost never ever complete

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i think i've only ever had like two traces work with more than 2 hops

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but two hops to savage is pretty impressive!

dreamy sapphire
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Ah. The amps power plug is finnicky

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Hence why it worked poorly

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Twist tied it into compliance, maybe everyone can hear me now

random mantle
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Oops

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I meant this one

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Got that message too

viral pebble
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what amp do you guys like? I'm looking at wiring up an e22 module and it looks like you can go with automatic tx/rx enable or manual tx enable, via a pin, that would make enabling an amp pretty easy

quaint marlin
quaint marlin
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AB-IOT or the one that @dreamy sapphire just posted

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AB-IOT is tough enough for solar/outdoor deployment. the 12v one is only good for indoor/home/car applications or it'll fry

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is anyone here 'Home Base'?

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they are on long fast right now and gps to downtown mpls

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just invited them here

wide umbra
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seeing my message too?

quaint marlin
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i'm not

wide umbra
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lame

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i guess you are 4 hops away

quaint marlin
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i show you as 5

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but i think that's stale node data

wide umbra
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it oculd be accurate, i was ignoring the hop from my pocket node to the g2

quaint marlin
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i'm on the client mute indoors too so a likely extra hop

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it'd be nice if MT have us the option to ignore the hop count on certain nodes

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that opens a can of worms but still

wide umbra
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DoS ALL THE THINGS

quaint marlin
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i'm just saying maybe a "jump off" device type that has one node that it listens for that it does NOT tick a hop off of

wide umbra
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No I like the idea, just have to be careful on the implementation to make that harder to do

viral pebble
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That would allow the easy solution to antenna diversity

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This is maybe heresy but one could simply comment out the hop decrement line in the firmware source… monkey2

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I’d be real damn careful there though

cloud sequoia
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Off topic but

wide umbra
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Minnehaha falls?

cloud sequoia
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Yeah

quaint marlin
quaint marlin
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honestly it wouldn't be the worst idea AT ALL for legit Router or Repeater nodes. I still don't get why they count as a hop.

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I mean a vaguely "get" it but I don't agree.

cloud sequoia
quaint marlin
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I hadn't seen an actual photo of one in action before. Cool!

cloud sequoia
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It's really nice for battery life but there's a few issues with them rn

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Standby/shutdown works but it won't boot up properly unless you reboot it. Really not that big of a deal but annoying. Some have also reported issues with TX and RX but idk that I've had any issues

viral pebble
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my T114 has been working great

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I got one without a screen though

robust flax
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I wish I could connect to people in Minnesota

cloud sequoia
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This you?

quaint marlin
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Epson 2602 has entered the chat @wide umbra

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yeah this 8dbi antenna has definitely helped, I'm picking up nodes like crazy

quaint marlin
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oh are you out of town?

wide umbra
quaint marlin
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who knows, it just popped up

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My antenna is everywhere, and sees all things now. It is the biznatch haderach

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It is now WILLING nodes into existence.

random mantle
quaint marlin
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I think they are.

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but I mean, the nodes don't have to follow him out of town, they have their own lives

random mantle
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Oh, gotcha. By "out of town" I thought you meant "lives out of town"

quaint marlin
cloud sequoia
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Haha yeah

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I've never had an issue afaik

quaint marlin
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did you get my response?

cloud sequoia
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But I'm just confirming

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Yeah

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I was a bit concerned 🤣

quaint marlin
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oh, that wasn't me

cloud sequoia
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Oh interesting

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What's your code?

quaint marlin
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I've got a million nodes, right now i'm DTHQ

cloud sequoia
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I got u on my node list

quaint marlin
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got your message... not sure if you get mine or not

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right now I'm all ears and no mouth apparently, the opposite of usual.

wide umbra
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I see the "hello out there dthq" but not sure who it's from

cloud sequoia
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Me

wide umbra
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I presume techman

cloud sequoia
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Yeah

wide umbra
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Sent you one back

cloud sequoia
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Not receiving rn

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Lemme try another spot

quaint marlin
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just sent a reply

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looks like you're somewhere in this area:

cloud sequoia
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I'm at Urban Growler Brewing

quaint marlin
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that's not the best-covered area just yet. That Remote 6 FairLink is mine but it is definitely a north-pointed node

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when the tower goes up at Turbo Tims that whole area (and a lot, lot more) will be covered thoroughly

cloud sequoia
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Idk how know Many hops y'all are set to but I'm 4 away

quaint marlin
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I see you as 3 hops away

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if you're at urban growler you've probably got more hops than I do, as I'm drinking wine tonight

wide umbra
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Boo

quaint marlin
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I just wasn't in the mood for beer. I KNOW.... I KNOW...

wide umbra
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I'm faulting the terrible joke (that I would totally make too), not your choice of drinks

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<- having a kona big wave rn

quaint marlin
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oh... yeah get used to it. I actually compete in bad joke competitions (the pun slam at spring street tavern)

viral pebble
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um I got it on the first shot (after fighting the boot loader)

quaint marlin
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excellent use of the bomb emoji

lavish vault
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I have my T-echo with me

dreamy sapphire
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HOABuster installed, thanks @quaint marlin !

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Barely visible

quaint marlin
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Here we go, the Spring Lake Park Public Works Tower has one Yagi on it about 20 feet up. That's literally it

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If all of the sections of tower are the same height, it's 140 feet tall.

dreamy sapphire
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What a unit

quaint marlin
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picked up any new/interesting nodes yet @dreamy sapphire ?

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I haven't received any telemetry from ya yet.

dreamy sapphire
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only 10 online

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lets see if I can btle to the buster from my computer

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nope

random mantle
# dreamy sapphire

I have a similar "chimney" on my place; I wonder if I could get away with one of those 🤔 I am too chicken to climb a 30 foot ladder, though

dreamy sapphire
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we used a 20 foot pole, the node has a loop of baling wire on it

random mantle
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ah, gotcha. the 'chimney' on my place doesn't actually have a vent in it to loop around; it's just decorative

dreamy sapphire
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we never ended up looping it around the chimney, we just used baling wire as a handle for the pole hook to grab

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there's a flat spot on top of my chimeny that it's just resting on

random mantle
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hopefully it stays put!

dreamy sapphire
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time will tell. If you have exposed steel on your chimney (and dont use your fireplace) a magnet node will be more than sufficient

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Brew Swillis is extremely good at making those now

random mantle
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my fireplace vents out the wall so I don't think there's any metal up there to stick to 😦

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I'd need to fly a drone up there to be sure

quaint marlin
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take a pic and also do so with your drone, and we can figure out a HOAbuster for you

random mantle
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if I had a drone I'd be happy to 🥲 here's the chimney from google street view fwiw

dreamy sapphire
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whats it look like from satellite?

random mantle
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like a PS1 game 😂

dreamy sapphire
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turn off 3d mode, it turns everything pillowey

random mantle
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i did, but it still looks like this

dreamy sapphire
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I'd reckon there's probably flat space up there that can be used

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preferably we check with drone, camera on a stick or another satellite source

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is bing maps a thing?

random mantle
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I'm pretty sure it's flat, just not sure if there's anything to attach to

dreamy sapphire
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bolt it to a paver stone

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then it wont go nowhere

random mantle
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unless it does, then look out!

wide umbra
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You are in AV, right?

random mantle
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Close; Savage

quaint marlin
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OH we can set that up

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I will gladly help you build a HOAbuster there.

quaint marlin
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also, sorta stoked that I somehow stupidly figured out how to get my home HQ antenna up several feet.... so I've got a new J mount and a new longer low-loss cable that will go directly from the G2 to the antenna on the end of the J and 3 feet of vertical extention.

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It should get be pretty close to what it would be if I had an attic node, and without doing any extra drilling, and with some more open-air signal than I would if it were inside of my roof.

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also it will free up an ALFA magnetic N mount, so if anyone is in a place where they need a magnetic mount that's IP rated for weather, etc let me know.

quaint marlin
dreamy sapphire
quaint marlin
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checking it out now

dreamy sapphire
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basically a slightly worse, but open source, heywhatsthat

quaint marlin
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it's interesting

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having to do metric calcs... 😖

dreamy sapphire
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metric is the best though

quaint marlin
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this tool is neat but needs a little help.

dreamy sapphire
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I think the hex cells are a bit large

quaint marlin
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yeah and too opaque

dreamy sapphire
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oh, looks like that's due to the dataset

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they're using a 3 arcsecond tileset from NASA

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3 arcseconds is about 90 meters

quaint marlin
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NASA...what do they know?

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the only thing I'd change at the moment is the opacity of the hexes. Makes it distracting IMO

dreamy sapphire
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it does look like it's possible you can selfhost and use your own dataset with a higher resolution

quaint marlin
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yeah I see that, that would be a cool addition to a certain upcoming website

dreamy sapphire
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ALHQ has seen 51 nodes since we put it up

lavish vault
quaint marlin
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after i get something at tim's i'll shift focus to that tower. not sure what approach yet.

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my thought is that i'm just gonna go there during open hours and ask who i could talk with

lavish vault
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Sounds like a plan

quaint marlin
dreamy sapphire
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lets see

quaint marlin
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i still haven't picked it up at home 😢

dreamy sapphire
quaint marlin
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that'll probably change when i get the new antenna mount

dreamy sapphire
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I see DTHQ, office, and remote 2, 5, 10 and 12

quaint marlin
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you see node though? lol

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r12 is on my workbench

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r13 is under construction and gonna be what's on tims tower temporarily (say that five times fast) while we design and build a nodezilla

dreamy sapphire
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I saw r12 an hour ago but cant traceroute. Can r12 see roseville 1?

quaint marlin
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unsure. i'm out and about at the moment

dreamy sapphire
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If so, gspot driving down 35W might have linked us

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Not sure where that mounds view fella ended up

quaint marlin
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so here's something odd

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setting up r13 i didn't want it getting discovered or picking up nodes so I switched the radio settings to Short Turbo

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and i was getting acks on test messages.

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that means there has to be a nearby node with that setting right??

lavish vault
viral pebble
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That’s right, the channels/frequencies are completely different on the other settings

quaint marlin
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So there must be a client-hidden node near me on short-turbo

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Because there are no nodes in the list

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I really wanna know who is acking on short-turbo

random mantle
lavish vault
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@quaint marlin when you do you meet with Turbo Tim today?

quaint marlin
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right now. i just pulled into the lot

quaint marlin
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looks like we had our wires crossed, I got no-show'd

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I'm sure I'll hear back soon.

dreamy sapphire
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Alright, camping meshtastic round 2 lets go

quaint marlin
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gonna use a bandit as a base HQ again, but this time use the XT30 plug and a big antenna?

dreamy sapphire
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I'm bringing my car jump pack so I can supply 12v power to the bandit at base camp

quaint marlin
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woo! rescheduled w turbo tim's

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just picked up a new node Jeremy -- anyone?

dreamy sapphire
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Remote 5 is below 25% PeepoSalute

quaint marlin
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is anyone here running C4-Station-1 ? It's a G2 I'm picking up over by hwy's 47 & 10

viral pebble
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what's the minimum wattage panel you'd put on an nRF node?

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I have a couple out with 5W panels and they seem to be "over-paneled" right now, maybe even during winter, and I have this 2W panel that's physically a great size but I'm wondering if it's on the edge of wimpy

lavish vault
random mantle
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I'm going to try keithmon's 3w enclosure once the panels are finally delivered from the snail's back sometime between now and november

viral pebble
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nothing can be as bad as the smaller unify solar enclosure

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Current at nominal power: 90mA (±5%)

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am I right, at 5V that's only 450mW?

wide umbra
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the maths check out for me

quaint marlin
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even those tiny ones last quite a long time with pretty minimal sun with a wisblock

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The aforementioned "R5" by @dreamy sapphire just called out above has been on a pole in Fridley, in the shade, for just about 2 weeks and it's at 25% battery. That's a 3000mah flat pack.

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The two nodes I've got up with 6,000mah in the same tiny solar enclosures are both doing very, very well for how little sun they get.

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R1 and R2 are both in that enclosure type with 6,000mah of flat packs jammed in there

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R1 is south-facing and gets OK sun, it's been up for quite a while (3-4 weeks?) and is at 88%. R6 is north-facing, has been up since Sept 1, and is at 55%

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I think R6 gets a decent amount of traffic. It has a LOT of nodes in the DB, like 130 or something

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I need to take it down once the tim's tower is up and put it somewhere else that signal bolstering is needed

viral pebble
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If you’re collecting power statistics at all it would be cool to publish a retrospective on a couple months of multiple solar nodes. Might be tricky to do with some of their adventurous positions in the world

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In other news I had the wrong polarity SMA connected on my bandit nano for like four days because I ordered the wrong connector and didn’t realize. Couldn’t figure out why my RSSI was in the toilet with that Alfa 2dBi antenna on my car

quaint marlin
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hope you didn't burn it out!

viral pebble
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It seems fine. I think it cranked down the power to protect itself

quaint marlin
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currently cranking UP the power at Kramarczuk's

robust flax
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That sounds really good.. gotta pick up some polish and Ukranian sausage for home use!

quaint marlin
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i eat here for lunch twice a month. can't live without

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just invited a longfast person to the chat from nearby

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The stupid invite link stopped working again, Lucas we got to get that other one up lol

digital hedge
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hello

quaint marlin
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hi!

wide umbra
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yooooo

digital hedge
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yeah it gave me a permission denied if i followed the link

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joining the meshtastic discord and then following the link worked

quaint marlin
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Glad you found us

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We are trying to build out the mesh and Northeast is somewhat of a problem area

digital hedge
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wish i could help more but i'm in a small apartment

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it's amazing i have any connection at all

quaint marlin
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Sometimes just growing the mesh one person at a time will be enough. We will have some pretty sweet coverage in Northeast relatively soon from a couple of big nodes that are going up

digital hedge
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there's plenty of new high rise buildings in the area that would be perfect for hosting nodes

quaint marlin
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Yep, and it's just a matter of finding somebody who is interested and he lives in one, or has access to a high place.

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But if you are into the infrastructure end of this kind of stuff, there's a lot of expertise in this room and you may have a better spot than you think that just needs the right set up.

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Speaking of set up, my climbing rig showed up yesterday, it is insanely well-built. Can't wait to give it a shot

viral pebble
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Where’d you get it from? Assuming it’s a harness and some ropes, carabiners?

quaint marlin
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amazon.

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This and this:

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so it's a harness and two fall arrest lanyards, and also a lanyard for a tool bag

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No ropes involved that I know of. You basically just clip yourself to the tower, always have at least one clipped on and the most you can fall is 6 feet.

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I will bring a rope WITH though, and lower it to have things pulled up to me

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like the node itself, parts, tools in a bucket, etc

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I'll have 2-way radio on me and one with someone on the ground

ripe vector
quaint marlin
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yep, comes with one shredded manequin with a bulge-crotch

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I think the manequin is who will have the other 2-way radio.
Me: "I'm stuck, Manny... any advice?"
Manny: "..."

robust flax
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I had all that for you my guy

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Like real climber grade setup

viral pebble
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I think you're playing it safer than most of the climbs the tower guys do at my friend's WISP

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(a good thing)

robust flax
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I sure hope not.. wisp climbers give climbers ( who don't need help ) a bad name

quaint marlin
robust flax
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are you high on piroggi?

quaint marlin
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yes and it lasts about a week and half, which is why I have to go every 2 weeks 😄

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sorry, typo'd my other message

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I did want to own my own

robust flax
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well, you can own that one if you want it's just collecting dust and cathairs

quaint marlin
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I guarantee this won't be our only tower

robust flax
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well people shouldn't be climbing all willy nilly..

quaint marlin
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well, when duty calls. Technically I suppose this would be "recreational" climbing, since nobody's getting paid for it.

robust flax
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gravity doesn't care how much you're getting paid

quaint marlin
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belive me if I have the slightest misgiving about the safety of the harness, I won't climb. I ain't 17 anymore!

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you could tow a car with this hardware, it's significantly more beefy than I was expecting. Last time I wore a harness was like when the REI rock climbing wall opened many moons ago and that hardware felt nothing like this

robust flax
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yeah, that roofers harness is like a toy compared to that exo-fit plus the exo has a seat on it

quaint marlin
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I mean I'm willing to give it a shot. I can pick it up any time. You have met me, I'm a big dude, will that fit? I see a "SM" on one of the tabs

robust flax
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i didn't realize it was a small. but as long as you don't have winter clothes on it should size up. we will see

quaint marlin
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I'm many things, but "SM" ain't one of them

robust flax
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well, there's other parts to use off of it and if we have someone it will fit the kid who wore it wasn't small either but meds are really large

wanton moth
# quaint marlin I'll have 2-way radio on me and one with someone on the ground

Be sure it has stirrups, things to drop down to put your feet in to take the weight off your crotch straps if you're hanging in it off your feet. The stirrups sat in small velcroed bags easy to open and drop to deploy at need. The crotch straps can cut off the femoral artery and your legs can starve and die from lack of blood. I worked for MNDOT and we had to have the stirrups on the harness just to work on signage and in the bucket truck. They could save your legs if ever needed.

quaint marlin
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did anyone else just pick up Lyn-Lake Router?

robust flax
heady marsh
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Has anyone had succes with a RAK 4631 broadcasting environmentals over the mesh with a RAK1906 / Sensor BOSCH BME680 100008?. When I connect to the node with BT I can see that its reading the info, but ive tried everthing to get it to be seen on the mesh, and can't. Any ideas? Says its compatable.,.. https://meshtastic.org/docs/configuration/module/telemetry/

This module allows sharing of Device, Environment, and Air Quality metrics from your Meshtastic device.

viral pebble
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Trying to find which one. I think it was one on the back of the 19007

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Slot C

heady marsh
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Yep it’s in slot C

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If I connect to the node with BT I can see them. Can’t get them to send though.

wide umbra
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Alright @here, @quaint marlin and I have been deliberating and decided that there's enough interest and traffic here that it's worth our own dedicated space to allow for multiple concurrent discussions and in an organized fashion. With that said, jump on over to the shiny new MSP Mesh group! https://discord.gg/xfyDHKUff9

quaint marlin
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Ideally we will have a pinned message here in this channel directing people to our own server where we have much more granular, organized channels made for our meshing needs.

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I will write something brief up and ask @worldly summit to post it here

worldly summit
quaint marlin
dreamy sapphire
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camping results inconclusive, the boys did not really care about MT

echo coral
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I’m curious if anyone has seen my nodes in southern MN. I am routinely picking up nodes in the cities from down here.

My main device is 1rwinMobile, however I also have some solar nodes: 1rwinHartlandSolar, 1rwinManchesterSolar, Tower7Solar, 1rwinAldenSolar, etc.

random mantle
viral pebble
quaint marlin
# echo coral

join us on the msp mesh discord in the pinned message! i wanna find out more about these nodes!

quaint marlin
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for some reason i wasn't able to tag you in the greater mn room

quasi hull
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Had a contact from "3184" in Mankato tonight, passing through back to Minneapolis.

quasi hull
digital hedge
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ericpp — Today at 9:36 PM
i pinged you driving off highway 14 by the river hills mall and then again at casey's by 14
you have pretty good range on that thing

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whereabouts are you located?

echo coral
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@quasi hull which node did you pick him up on?

digital hedge
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CFT1?

quasi hull
# digital hedge whereabouts are you located?

I was working off my T-Deck...but I have a solar node on loan from @echo coral up on my roof. I know my T-Deck can make it to hwy 14 ( about 1-1.5 miles from the top of the hill heading down into the valley towards waseca).

quasi hull
digital hedge
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cool

quasi hull
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The Casey's by hwy14 and victory drive is about 3/4 mile to the south of my house.

digital hedge
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that's really good

quasi hull
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Just a wide open field and a couple rows of houses between.

digital hedge
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good line of sight

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i'm lucky if i get 1/2 mi here but i'm surrounded by obstacles and in an apt building

quasi hull
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Yeah...decent. I can get 2 miles sometimes... But the highway is elevated and blocks my comms further to he south.

digital hedge
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any other nodes in mankato? i think i got a ping once driving on the mankato/north mankato bridge to my dad's house

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on 169

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err my "." hit somebody's node

quasi hull
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There is another guy on the other side of town near Rasmussen Woods, his nodes are names something like MaxFever... But he seems unmotivated to mesh around. I work in transportation, and usually have a node with me and am frequently all over town... So it could have been me also.

digital hedge
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ah it probably was you then

dreamy sapphire
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I believe there's a mankato group in #1196916552725958706 but idk if it's very active

quasi hull
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MKS1 is the solar node I have on loan...on my roof. The rest of my nodes are "CF**" aka CounterFiat. I have a couple of T-decks, and a couple Heltec V3s.

quasi hull
digital hedge
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i bet there would be some people interested there

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they just don't know what they don't know

quasi hull
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When college started up again...I spent some time trolling around campus hoping to find some nodes...I found only sadness.

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Lol

digital hedge
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there was a house with a giant ham antenna south of town on monks ave

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it looked like it was gone the last time i passed by though

quasi hull
digital hedge
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yeah

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in the newer development there

quasi hull
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Not sure I ever noticed one out that way.

digital hedge
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monks & south brook - i guess not that big

quasi hull
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@echo coral , I saw that maestro was lurking around town earlier today. No messages but I received an node info update.

echo coral
quasi hull
echo coral
nova wigeon
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Has anyone seen the SFP3 node in the last week or two? I left it on the silo at work and kind of forgot about it. It seems to still be working today but had lost all its settings. I reset it and sent a couple tests but couldn't tell if it's fully working.

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Also it refuses to keep the fixed position when I enter GPS coordinates, just defaults back to 0,0.

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Maybe that's why the project stopped officially supporting that device 😆

echo coral
echo coral
nova wigeon
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Thanks! I've been dabbling in Meshtastic but haven't had time to really keep on top of it.

junior slate
nova wigeon
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It's actually located in North Minneapolis

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Almost to Brooklyn Center.

dreamy sapphire
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I havent had the luxury to run into any of the SFP nodes yet

wide umbra
random mantle
dreamy sapphire
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Whomst

viral pebble
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is it Plastic Meshtastic?

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I'm pretty sure that location is wrong as hell

nova wigeon
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Realized I brought a node all the way to Montreal and saw some other nodes but never sent any messages while we were there 🤪 I could have been practicing my French!

fading forge
quaint marlin
quaint marlin
dreamy sapphire
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For the lurkers still chillin - we're doing a meetup at 1pm today in Rosedale Mall at the Potluck area. Please join the MSP Mesh Discord for full event information.

nova wigeon
quasi hull
nova wigeon
# quasi hull Context?

Meant to post this in the other MSP Mesh General chat but was too hard to tell them apart on the Discord app 😅

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We took the train from Portland to St. Paul and those were the nodes that showed up along the way. There were a few more without GPS coordinates.

quasi hull
ripe snow
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Ill be flyin back over on Friday wizS, RAK 19003

dreamy sapphire
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Please have it in client_mute! We've had a few clients in planes that threw the mesh in a bit of a tizzy

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do you know what time you'll be overhead? Hopefully I can catch you during break or after work

ripe snow
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Sure. Ill double check that they are on client_mute:)

probly around 830pm or so

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I have wizS and tDek. Although tDek goes to sleep a lot in ways wizS doesnt. So you may or may not see tDek.

ripe snow
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Hey, question. For you to see me on the map, i need to report some form of gps location, right?

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Like, it can be fixed position or real gps info, right?

Will my gps module work, or do i need to be reporting my fixed position in the position settings?

dreamy sapphire
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Yes we need to see coords in your nodeinfo. These are separate position packets sent at different intervals

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If you have gps you can enable Smart Position which sends a packet after you've moved x distance (configurable)

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(you can also tether from your phones position via btle or usb with the app)

dreamy sapphire
dreamy sapphire
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This should be the final message in this thread.
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