EU - Spain

[ripe coral]

Cheapest cell with protection, low current draw so the self-discharge will be less.

[copper carbon]

ok thanks

do I connect them in series or parallel?

[ripe coral]

Even two of those should keep a nrf based repeater running for a few days, easily

[copper carbon]

series right?

[ripe coral]

The solar battery bank is parallel

[copper carbon]

oh right

[ripe coral]

you only want/need 3.6v for the majority of nodes, they're pretty much all designed to run off a lithium cell at 3.6v ish

[copper carbon]

ah ok

[ripe coral]

Running lithium cells in parallel is generally not great, but 18650's are designed for it and when they have protection on the cell like this, it's completely fine.

[copper carbon]

I see

[twilit trail]

https://eu.nkon.nl/rechargeable/li-ion/18650-size.html

I always buy from nkon. They are one of the leading battery resellers in Europe.

If you use a Spanish VAT number as well you don’t have to pay VAT as it is a cross EU transaction not subject to VAT for business uses.

I like using 21700s but that’s just me 🤷‍♂️

[ripe coral]

Ah yeah, I've bought from nkon too, also a great place, yup

Agree, 21700's are better than 18650's, it's just that solar enclosure is specifically for 18650's and for this application, cheapest is best 🙂

[twilit trail]

It’s where I buy my 300ah prismatic cells from!

[ripe coral]

prismatic cells?

[twilit trail]

These chonks

use it for making diy 48v lifepo4 battery packs

[ripe coral]

ahh, for home solar I'm guessing?

[wide mantle]

this is the best solar node build i've seen as far as ease of use (assembly) is concerned,, no soldering needed. https://m0taz.co.uk/2024/07/meshtastic-solar-options/

[twilit trail]

yeah exactly

[wide mantle]

i don't know.. what did you use for that?.. probably is accurate but all sorts can effect radio frequency... if the other mountain is also hit by the red coverage then its all good,so probably is accurate

[twilit trail]

yeah, should be fine, my first node will be a rak based one, arrives tomorrow.

However do you think a heltec t114 could also serve its purpose in the future as i make more nodes? They are alot cheaper for me to get

[wide mantle]

yeah the t114 could easily, as a solar node.. just make sure you buy the revision 2.0.. or (v2) as first one had hardware issues they had to correct for meshtastic,

[ripe coral]

Anything nrf is good for a solar node really, t-echo have been my goto before now as they've been cheapest up until now

28.5 euros delivered looks cheaper though, for the T114 v2, don't think that can be beat!

[wide mantle]

thing with the RAK and Heltec T114 is that they both have solar inputs built into the board itself,, but you look at any build and people use solar power management boards to regulate the power properly.. mostly because nodes have a habit of shutting down if the voltage gets too low, maybe not an issue in a country where there is alot of sunlight. 🙂

[ripe coral]

Yeah, depends what you're using for the solar panel - the one we referenced above has that built in, so it's not necessary 🙂

[full trout]

I've made a connection with three nodes from barcelona this morning

[copper carbon]

whatt

[full trout]

i just got home and saw it lol

[copper carbon]

damn

[full trout]

but it seems like there isn't a connection anymore

I guess someone took their node to a good spot and was able to connect

[copper carbon]

wait a minute

when was this?

[full trout]

I just got another connection

[copper carbon]

where are you?

[full trout]

Sant Vicenç de montalt

about 30km away

[copper carbon]

hmm

[full trout]

it seems like i'm connecting to 062d near barceloneta

[copper carbon]

really?

that’s quite weird

[full trout]

yes, do you have connection with 062d?

[copper carbon]

let me check

haven’t seen that node in the past

let me pull out the yagi

and you’re doing this with what antenna?

[full trout]

let me check

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005005876634286.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.116.74fa194dBkrqG6&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp

this one

[copper carbon]

that it?

34km is quite good

[full trout]

yes

I have a good view of barcelona, but it's still good considering there could be buildings and interference in between

[copper carbon]

I mean I can see barceloneta from my house

[full trout]

you might have a chance of connecting to it

[copper carbon]

yeah

how long does it usually take?

[full trout]

sometimes it can take a long time

try sending messages on longfast

so that the other node picks up your signal

or try doing traceroutes to nodes on your list

[full trout]

hmm

[copper carbon]

I never get acknowledged

[full trout]

i would just leave it there for a while

[copper carbon]

ok

I found this node yesterday

[full trout]

Haven't got it on my list

it sometimes takes a while for siftahs nodes to appear on my list when i restore my node and we live very close to eachother

[copper carbon]

when were you in barcelona when you found these?

[copper carbon]

oh ok

[full trout]

the node was never in barcelona, I have it permanently setup in my home

[copper carbon]

oh

so these have gps?

[full trout]

yes

or they have a location setup on the app

i don't have a gps but my node shows up on the map because i've put my location in the settings

[copper carbon]

oh I need to do that

[full trout]

enable "use fixed position" on the position config

and put your coordinates

[copper carbon]

I don’t see where to put coordinates

oh wait

my broadcast power was set to 12dbi

[full trout]

on android there's an option to put your coordinates

[copper carbon]

oh ok

[full trout]

maybe it automatically grabs your location on iphone

[copper carbon]

maybe

[full trout]

make sure you and your friend have the TX power setting as high as your node allows

i think it's 27 dbm for the heltec v3

[copper carbon]

yeah I had it at 12dbi

now it’s at 27

[full trout]

ok

[copper carbon]

this whole time I didn’t realize

haha

[full trout]

it also happened to me, i don't know why the highest setting is not the default

[copper carbon]

yeah

why does the heltec light randomly flash super bright?

[full trout]

mine also does it

i have the v2

i think its normal

[copper carbon]

oh ok

I think i’ll put the rubber ducky antenna on instead of the yagi

I trust it more

[ripe coral]

Yeah, I'm seeing more nodes too: Juls in BCN for example

3 hops away

I'm also seeing 062d

I saw Juls 6mins ago and 062d 2mins ago, so very recent.

[full trout]

@ripe coral have you received my test message at 21:15?

on longfast

[ripe coral]

Yeah!

I'm seeing 2 and 3 hops on those nodes, so I must be going via you

I don't get any response on Traceroutes to be able to verify

[full trout]

yes, i have a direct connection to juls

and 1 hop to 062d

[ripe coral]

Weird when I do a traceroute to you I see direct to you, but 2 hops back, but the hop back is "Meshtastic ffff" which is clearly a made up node id

[full trout]

that's interesting

[ripe coral]

I have nothing different in my setup

I left my TBeam powered on in my car earlier, but that won't be doing anything as it's in Client_Mute

Everything else the same

[full trout]

i have no idea what could cause that

meshtastic is a bit buggy sometimes

[ripe coral]

I'm guessing we just have good atmospheric conditions or something, dunno

Might be a boat or something out at sea with someone with a repeater node, that's the only thing that would be moving slowly enough for there to be connectivity for this long

I'm seeing 062d node as updated 1 min ago, so this is interesting

[copper carbon]

I still don’t see anyone lol

[ripe coral]

It's kind of funny, we're 30km away and seeing two nodes in Barcelona city, you two are in the city and can't see that node, haha

Show's how "random" radio can be 🙂

[copper carbon]

yep

[ripe coral]

I think I need to go stick a repeater up on the hill at castle burriac, that'd probably connect me and Seba to BCN city better

I could whack a temporary one in a tree with a battery as a test and see how it works

Then work out later whether it's worth putting something more permanent up if it helps connect us

[full trout]

I think that this mountain in cabrils is also a really good place https://maps.app.goo.gl/XQWSsXka7TagKbPG7

[copper carbon]

i’ve left my node up all night and nothing showed up

[ripe coral]

I'm still seeing "Meshtastic 062d", "Meshtastic c2c4" and "Juls"

062d looks like it's at the marina, so that could well be up the Mapfre tower in somebodies office 🙂

That would explain why it's connecting us up to Barcelona 🙂

[copper carbon]

well i’ve got a clear LOS to the mapfre tower

[ripe coral]

Not sure what the tower next to it is called

One of these two could probably cover most of the city

[copper carbon]

I just call the the mapfre towers

[ripe coral]

Maybe they both are tbh, I've never even thought of the name of the other one, haha

I forgot how big they are compared to everything around them too

I'll be in the city tomorrow for a while, so maybe I can get an idea

[copper carbon]

yeah i’ll be in madrid tmr

but I won’t be bringing my node

[ripe coral]

Then I definitely won't be catching your node 🙂

I've took a node to Madrid before but didn't get a single hit - was just a node sat in my laptop bag and mostly in a hotel during a conference though

I'm going to be going around the Mapfre tower in BCN tomorrow, so it'll be interesting to see if I hit that node that's showing there and how strong the signal is

[copper carbon]

yeah

[twilit trail]

Got my RAK today!

just waiting on the components from ali express now to make the node!

[twilit trail]

3x 21700cells, going to weld some strips in parallel for them

[full trout]

Nice, I don't know anything about RAK devices, are they worth it over something like a heltec v3? I've seen that they are not very expensive.

[twilit trail]

The Rak uses a NRF based chip, which is alot more power efficient compared to the ESP32 boards. Good for use in remote places such as repeaters with solar panels, trying to do the same with an ESP32 based chip would be quite difficult due to the power consumption.

The RAK is also modular which allows you to add extra modules with out much experience, like environment, sensors ir motion detectors gps and the like. Its just quite a bit more expensive.

Heltec also sell a NRF based radio called the Heltec t114 v2, its almost the same as a RAK but cheaper and without expansion modules. The T114 also has free shipping here with aliexpress to spain.

[full trout]

That's cool. The heltec T114 costs only like 5€ more than the v3, so is there a reason to buy a v3 instead of the T114?

[twilit trail]

I think only if you want to do some ESP related shenanigans. I’m not an expert on this so that’s all I think off 🤷‍♂️

[wide mantle]

the V3 has the esp32 chip which is more power hungry, all the chipsets that have the esp32 are more power hungry and not suited to being solar nodes.. the Heltec T114 also has its own solar connector on the board and comes with an RF52 chip instead of the ESP32 chip which makes it far more economical with battery power and is suited to being a solar node.. the Heltec V3 is seen as like the beginner node because of how easy it is to setup and use,, its ok if you want to use it as a node in your car or at home.. 👍

[full trout]

Ok, thanks for the info. I'm seeing that the heltec v3s are dropping in price, you can get them for just 20€ now on aliexpress which seems like a good deal

[ripe coral]

Wow, that box is the perfect size for 21700's!

The T114's definitely replaced the V3, lower power and the screen option is colour, so definitely a bit more usable. I've ordered a couple from Muziworks in cases, not turned up yet but they look like they'll make for nice little nodes 🙂

[twilit trail]

Wohoo finished my first t beam

[ripe coral]

Left a node in the office on Llacuna con Pujades, not sure it’s going to add much coverage as it’s in a crappy spot in the office tbh

But better than nothing I guess 🙂

[twilit trail]

There needs to be a community project where all across spain we place small solar nodes ontop of the mountains to get p2p! between all the major locations! 😂

[copper carbon]

wtf that’s right next to me

is it still there

I’m going to pull out my node then.

YES!!

well that’s odd

doesn’t work anymore

[ripe coral]

It should do!

I left it plugged in, it could be they've unplugged it as someone moved onto my desk today, so they probably moved it but didn't plug it back in :\

I'll see on Monday when I'm back there!

But yeah, I know you're in that area so I figured it couldn't do any harm 🙂

[copper carbon]

yeah very good idea

[ripe coral]

Maybe my new desk will be in a better location, haha

[copper carbon]

haha

[lapis wharf]

hey this might not be the right place but anyone here can help me start with meshtastic im based on spain and i dont know much about the frequencies

[wide mantle]

hola! all of the frequencies in Europe for meshtastic are mostly 868mhz or 433mhz.. however most people inlcuding people here use 868mhz.. so you need to buy a board (chipset) that has a Lora frequency of 868mhz.. where abouts are you?. 🙂

[lapis wharf]

seville

[wide mantle]

yo tengo una amiga en Sevilla pero yo no sido hay todavia.

[full trout]

I'm seeing a couple of new nodes from barcelona

one named ITWorm and the other 8da4

[copper carbon]

damn

I should probably keep my node on longer

[full trout]

yeah

if you can leave it on 24/7

[copper carbon]

yeah

[ripe coral]

Oooh

I'm in Barcelona today, I had a wander down to the beach near the Mapfre towers to see if I could pick up that node

no dice 😦

[copper carbon]

oh damn

[ripe coral]

So either it was there temporarily (maybe a holiday maker in the hotel or something), or it went offline

[copper carbon]

are you able to turn on your node in your office?

[ripe coral]

But! I did see another node; HOMEfc14

[copper carbon]

that’s the one I sawww

[ripe coral]

It's on! I think it's just in a really bad position

I'm going to move desks to one nearer the window and setup a better node on it (won't be today, but soon)

[copper carbon]

oh ok nice

[ripe coral]

Surprised I've not seen more nodes in the city though :\

I suspect there's some around, but probably the architecture / high buildings and amount of inteference is just too much 😦

[copper carbon]

@ripe coral this is my friends node list

we had found the homefc14

[ripe coral]

That must be in the area along the front near the MAPFRE towers I would guess

It’s an old Heltec v2.1 node and not giving any position

This was what my node was picking up in the office

[copper carbon]

I also found c2c4

[ripe coral]

I’m not too sure where c2c4 was, must have been on my way out of the city somewhere

[ripe coral]

I see this ITWorm node too, 42h ago (Sunday), looks like it came via "Meshtastic 8da4"

8da4 is/was a tdeck, so I'd guess that was a mobile node - probably on a plane or cruise

ITWorm and Juls both have the same GPS co-ords

(somewhere around Arc d'Triomphe)

[copper carbon]

@ripe coral

we spoke with ITworm

[ripe coral]

Ahh!!!!

Sweet, I saw that node again today when driving into the office

It seems to have replaced the Juls node

I picked it up from somewhere near the bottom of bac de roda

You got it on LongSlow though?

[copper carbon]

no that was just for testing, before it was on long fast when we were talking

[ripe coral]

Ahh ok!

Haven’t checked my nodes today to see what I’m seeing, but my node in the office is now in a slightly better location though I don’t expect it to get much range tbh

[full trout]

I've got a connection from juls 18 minutes ago but haven't gotten one with ITWorm in 4 days

It sais that juls is 3 hops away. I'll try to make a traceroute but it seems like the connection isn't very stable

[copper carbon]

hmm ok

[full trout]

I've talked to ITWorm on longfast, but only a few messages went through

he said that he's indoors in a 4th floor with a 5dbi antenna

in villa olimpica

[copper carbon]

oh wow

[ripe coral]

I saw that 051c node messages, but can't see it in my node list, very odd

I wonder how ITWorm is getting back out to us, it seems like a difficult route that

[full trout]

same for me, I got 051c's messages but it doens't show up on the list

[full trout]

yes, he's indoors with a regular antenna and in barcelona and we are still getting his signal

but it doens't seem to be very reliable

[copper carbon]

bruhhh

and i’m pointing my yagi uda outdoor directly at you and nothing

lol

makes no sense

[ripe coral]

Yeah, it’s definitely weird

I’m kinda amazed we’re even occasionally seeing ITWorm though. I’ll have to go stick the repeater up on the hill again

Hopefully that’ll help us “join the dots” back to him more reliably

[ripe coral]

Hopefully that’ll help us “join the dots” back to him more reliably

[copper carbon]

yeah

i’ve set up my node all night last night and it’s still on, no new nodes

I got my yagi uda pointing right at the mapfre towers

at villa olimpica

[ripe coral]

I'm pretty sure whatever that node was in there, it's gone - probably a tourist!

I didn't see any nodes in that area when I went down to the beach front there - near the mcdonalds

ITWorm seems to consistently be hitting us, via Sebas node AFAICT

It's showing 2 hops, so I don't know if that means there's another/hidden node inbetween that's repeating it though

[copper carbon]

that’s really interesting

I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that ive got some of the best LOS of barcelona and still can’t receive any nodes

[ripe coral]

Yeah, that's a bit odd I must admit.

Especially that you're not seeing my node in the office

[copper carbon]

yeah

and when im pointing towards the mapfre towers your office is right in between

[ripe coral]

The obvious answer would be that you've got some pretty powerful local interference

[copper carbon]

that or maybe my setup isn’t very good

[ripe coral]

Can you get access to the top of your building? Even if it's just a stairway, just to see if you get more hits from higher floors?

It's possible the node is defective in some way, yeah

[copper carbon]

there’s a pool in my roof, ive already tried going there but still no hits

[ripe coral]

hmm, that's definitely kinda odd

[copper carbon]

the roof has a full 360 view of all barcelona for sure

but there is a fence but that wouldn’t cause any problems

[ripe coral]

Where the node is is here, on this side of the building, floor 1, so not very high but it's quite open to your direction AFAICT: https://maps.app.goo.gl/grPUmjxJrjX85XDS9

[copper carbon]

maybe I should but a better node

[ripe coral]

You just have the one at the moment?

Two is always handy for testing anyway, so it can't hurt

[copper carbon]

which side is your antenna pointing?

[copper carbon]

well my node works at close distances

[ripe coral]

it's omnidirectional so it's not really got any orientation

It's only a T1000E at the moment though, but they seem pretty good antennas in other testing

[copper carbon]

yeah but the side of the building could block the radio

[ripe coral]

I've a station G9 I might put on my desk at some point

[copper carbon]

and which floor is your node on? is it near street level or is there a good LOS?

im going to be home in 5 minutes to see if I can pick up your node

[ripe coral]

It may be, yeah, but then, when my car's parked 5 floors below (3 floors underground) I can reach it from my node sat on the desk 🙂

It's on floor 1, so it's only just about street level

[copper carbon]

damnnn

[ripe coral]

I got it from a few blocks away when I was walking around

[copper carbon]

well im going to see now if I can see your node

are you 100% sure its on atm?

[ripe coral]

I'd leave a station G9 witha better antenna plugged in but I think the building security would start asking questions, they don't like anything that looks like a wifi device being "connecetd" to the internal network 🙂

It was on when I left it, but that was a few days ago, will be in the office tomorrow so I'll know for sure then

[copper carbon]

haha

[ripe coral]

it should be on, I left it plugged in at my desk

[copper carbon]

okk

is your office near that building that says “GAES”

[ripe coral]

I can't think what that building would be

It's llacuna with pujades

So, basically it's just off the rambla

[copper carbon]

yeah there’s just this green building that says “GAES”

its like green all over

[ripe coral]

Hmm

[copper carbon]

ill try to find a location

[ripe coral]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/grPUmjxJrjX85XDS9

[copper carbon]

yeah next to little fern

ok I think I see your office

not getting acknowledged tho

[ripe coral]

It's that building in the centre - on the first floor, it's an interior building so it's a rubbish location for a node tbh

If my wild guess as to your building is correct, you'd have LOS from an upper floor

[copper carbon]

yeah

[ripe coral]

So yeah, one of us has a bad node, hah

[copper carbon]

Ill try to go towards your office with my node and see if I can pick it up

[copper carbon]

✋

[ripe coral]

haha, tbh, when I look at google earth I'm kinda surprised you don't pick up Seba or my node from a higher floor

[copper carbon]

im in the black building on diagonal with pere IV

not sure if that helps

[ripe coral]

That was my guess!

[copper carbon]

hahah

yeah I gave a lot of clues

[ripe coral]

It has a pool on the roof and there's actually not much taller than it, didn't realise just how big that building is

[copper carbon]

yeah

[ripe coral]

I won't be giving GeoWizard a run for his money any time soon 🙂

Hmm, for that distance, we absolutely should be seeing each others nodes IMHO

[copper carbon]

yeah

🤷🏻

[ripe coral]

Maybe the T1000E has a bad antenna

Looking at the one i have here with me, it's not picking up Seba and he's not too far, my other nodes do

I need to find a way to disguise a better node to leave on my desk, so building security won't call in the bomb squad

[copper carbon]

hahah

[wide mantle]

according to this mesh map https://meshtastic.liamcottle.net/?lat=41.65239288426814&lng=362.19039916992193&zoom=10 Seba is still running a node with really old firmware. 2.4.2 .. but if you can message him and vice versa that's pretty good

[ripe coral]

I think he updated it recently past 2.4.2 tbh

but yeah, he's kinda old school with an unsupported node type 🙂

@full trout You're on a Heltec V2, I guess nothing newer supported?

[wide mantle]

heltec v2.. wow, i guess that explains it..here though > #firmware message

[full trout]

I can still update my heltec v2 through this website: https://flasher.pdxlocs.com/

I havn't updated my node in a while because it's tricky to acces my glass bottle setup. I'll try to do it this weekend if I have any time

[wide mantle]

the most recent version they have is 2.5.4.. the guy i linked above has 2.5.12

[full trout]

i don't know how the website I've linked works but it always has the latest firmware available for the heltec v2

[ripe coral]

It’s a little bit old, but tbh I don’t think there’s huge changes between 2.5.* versions anyway - I’ve not looked at the changelogs but just going off the behaviours I’ve seen.

My car node is also quite old as I’ve forgotten how to update it 😂

There’s a trick with the nRF app but I can’t remember what I did 😂

[copper carbon]

have you verified that the node is plugged in?

in your office

[ripe coral]

I didn't - I had a change of plans and didn't go to the office today

Will be there in the morning

Plus, I've set my spare G9 node with a decent antenna up, so if it's possible, I'll leave it somewhere discreet in the office and hope the security police don't detonate it 😉

I'm thinking I can leave it on the cable tray under my desk, so it'll be pretty hidden

It's not going to be connected to the wifi so it won't be doing any harm, it'll just trigger the security if they see a "wifi antenna" sticking up on a non authorised device 🙂

[copper carbon]

hahah

just say it’s for better internet speeds for your computer

[ripe coral]

Ha, our office xmas party is tomorrow evening at a place on the 19th floor

looks to have a great view out over the city

I shall be packing nodes!

[full trout]

hahaha that would be awesome

[ripe coral]

So I checked and my node in the office was still working, it'd been unplugged but it had 60% battery life left.

I've just swapped it for a Station G9 to see if there's better reception

[copper carbon]

oh so it was on

[ripe coral]

Doesn't look like I'll be staying on this desk though (long story)

[copper carbon]

oh ok

[ripe coral]

I'm seeing 0 nodes from here though, it's like this office is in a faraday cage

I can see my car parked 5 floors below, but that's it

When I put the car into CLIENT_MUTE then everything i send gets "max retransmission reached" and doesn't hit anything

[copper carbon]

yeah your car is also in the same faraday cage haha

[ripe coral]

Oh yeah, good point!

View from my desk

[copper carbon]

oh damn

i’m right below

so that’s probably why the signal doesn’t reach

[copper carbon]

you’re looking at floors 22-26

i’m lower

[ripe coral]

I would still expect anywhere in that building to be in-reach tbh

Despite there being a few buildings between, it's not too far, 0.5km or so

I'm seeing nothing from my desk, but it looks like I'm being kicked off of this desk anyway so I'll be relocating elsewhere in the building 😂

[copper carbon]

oh ok

well my node isn’t on atm

[ripe coral]

No!?

[copper carbon]

no haha

[ripe coral]

Doh, I drove past your building and sent a ping as I went past - it got acknowledged all my nodes were off at taht point 🙂

So I hit a node from approx your building, using my car mounted node 🙂

[copper carbon]

hmm

I think I did see a node in my building

[ripe coral]

I was basically at the park crossing Diagonal

[copper carbon]

are you still there?

I can turn my node on now

[ripe coral]

It got an acknowledge but I didn't see any new nodes pop up in the node list

Nope, back home now!

Tomorrow from 8pm I'll be in floor 19 of the building here: https://www.the19thhole.barcelona/reuniones-y-eventos.htm

[copper carbon]

that feeling when you get acknowledged 😂

[ripe coral]

Placa Urquinaona

If I don't see any nodes from there then I really don't know what to think, it's got such a view of the city

[copper carbon]

hahah

i’ll see

i’ll have my node on

[ripe coral]

You never know, with ITWorm being able to connect back to Seba, we might even be able to join the dots and get a message from BCN all the way back to my home node 🙂

[copper carbon]

oh yeah

turns out my node WAS on

I got all your pings

@ripe coral

[ripe coral]

Nice!!!

Wow, that's weird then

So you're receiving the pings from the Station G2 (better antenna than the T1000E)

Doesn't look like you'd received anything from "Siftah T1000E" though?

[copper carbon]

nope

[ripe coral]

Well that's interesting, confirms the Station G2 is performing better than the T1000E then - good to know

[copper carbon]

and you sent pings from underneath with the T1000E?

and I didn’t receive them?

[ripe coral]

Station G2 and T1000E were both located on my desk

[copper carbon]

ohh

[ripe coral]

The "Siftah RangeRover" is my car based node that I pinged you from as I was driving home

[copper carbon]

ohh

makes sense

so we can communicate now

[ripe coral]

that's a T-echo but it has a gizont antenna and is roof mounted, so it gets a pretty good reception

Well, lol

The thing is...

[copper carbon]

did you get in trouble? hahah

[ripe coral]

I've been kicked off my desk again so I'm homeless in the office at the moment and need to find a new desk

[copper carbon]

damn

[ripe coral]

Naaa, it's just I don't go in the office much, so I don't usually have a reserved desk where I can leave stuff - but I will do, soon, if I can find one that nobody else wants 🙂

[copper carbon]

yeah good

so the G2 isn’t on right now?

[ripe coral]

I quite liked the one I had tbh, it had a nice view out of the window and stuff, but never mind 🙂

Nope, brought both nodes home with me whilst I find a new desk

[copper carbon]

oh ok

[ripe coral]

I'll probably be back there next week at some point and setup a new home 🙂

[copper carbon]

is there a clear LOS between my building and your house?

[ripe coral]

tomorrow it's our xmas party though, so I'll be taking a node up to the 19th floor with me from 8pm until late

Yeah - that picture I posted earlier is from the office looking towards your building (I think?)

[copper carbon]

I mean your actual house

[ripe coral]

This ?

[copper carbon]

no, where you live

in mataró

around there

[ripe coral]

Ahh, my house is https://meshtastic.liamcottle.net/?lat=41.6015638880095&lng=362.5157457590104&zoom=17

I'm between Arenys de Munt and Sant Vincenc de Montalt, little bit further on than Mataro

[copper carbon]

are you getting a connection to ITworm because it is near the beach?

i’m wondering why you get a connection to ITworm but not me

[ripe coral]

I think it's Seba's location, he's at a good height and got fairly clear line of sight towards the beach area - though it's kinda close

Yeah, it's weird

[copper carbon]

I think because there’s hills that go up before the beach

so all along the beach is a clear LOS

[ripe coral]

That's why I was so keen to get a ping from near your building, to try and confirm your node is working tbh

[copper carbon]

yeah

well this is progress

[ripe coral]

I think so too, yeah, when you look on google there's quite a curve on the coast too, so I think Seba's location sorta sticks out enough it gets LOS

I also saw another node near the beach though: "Meshtastic c2c4"

and also "Meshtastic 062d" - is this one you?

[copper carbon]

that’s my friends node I think

[ripe coral]

9cc3 = Juls

[copper carbon]

um I did change my hex code to 6969 😂

[ripe coral]

ITWorm = 4a52

[copper carbon]

this isn’t my friends node

[ripe coral]

Hmmm, but what's your real hex code?

[copper carbon]

I have no idea how to check

[ripe coral]

I am not 100% sure, but I think you're not actually changing your hex code, you're just changing the display name

[copper carbon]

oh ok

[ripe coral]

c2c4

AHA!

[copper carbon]

who is this??

[ripe coral]

It's like a magic trick, "is this your card?"

[copper carbon]

wait leaving my node on for the day actually changed everything

I actually get a map now

[ripe coral]

352f is the T1000E that was in the office!

[copper carbon]

wait I think I received your node all the way from your house

[ripe coral]

This one, so you saw it as incomplete but did hear it

[copper carbon]

this is crazyyy

[copper carbon]

oh there’s your T100E

[ripe coral]

062d for me shows on the map next to the big fish - casino / port olimpic

[copper carbon]

ig it takes just a little time for a connection to happen

[copper carbon]

odd

[copper carbon]

can you explain this though?

I think we got a connection

[ripe coral]

That's odd, that node's turned off, lol

[copper carbon]

lmfao

[ripe coral]

the station g2 I turned off when I left the office, it has no battery and I unplugged it from my desk so I'm 100% certain it was powered down when I left the building

[copper carbon]

well it showed up at your house 1h ago

[ripe coral]

I'm going to check to make sure I'm not going crazy

it is definitely and 100% without power and has been since I left the office about 5pm 🙂

5:07pm I left

[copper carbon]

umm

then how?

[ripe coral]

No idea, very weird. Must be some sort of caching going on with the app perhaps

I'm using the iOS client and connecting to the nodes, maybe it's doing something weird with the GPS positions or something, really not sure. I cannot explain it logically based on how I understand the firmware to work.

There's two nodes btw: "Siftah Basestation G2" and "Siftah Station G2 ff3c"

The Basestation node is my fixed home node, the "Siftah Station G2 ff3c" is the one I had in the office today.

[copper carbon]

hm

I think I should buy a G2

seems very good

[ripe coral]

It's hard to compare tbh, it does seem more sensitive

the t-echo with a gizont I have on the car is also really good and a lot cheaper

and lower power 🙂

[copper carbon]

you have a regular gizont?

[ripe coral]

yeah, it's just a 17cm gizont

[copper carbon]

damn

[copper carbon]

damn nice

[ripe coral]

better picture

[copper carbon]

you still have the sticker on it 😂

[ripe coral]

yeah, that's not on anymore haha

the whole casing looks a lot more beaten up now as it's been outside for 12 months+

[copper carbon]

haha

[ripe coral]

I printed it in PLA which is a bad idea, so it's warped badly - but the electronics inside are encased in silicon, so they're working fine

It was one of those "I'll give it a go and see if it works, then do it properly later if it's a good idea", but it's still there 12 months later

I think, that maybe gets good reception because the roof rack and the car itself act as a ground plane

[copper carbon]

hahah

maybe the bar makes the reception better here?

quite an awkward setup

[ripe coral]

Probably the opposite - groundplane needs to be under the antenna and connected by earth

I would think those doors are aluminium inside the frame, so it could be affecting the reception

moving it out and away into open space would potentially help

[copper carbon]

oh ok

[full trout]

what an interesting conversation lol, I can't participate in all of them because I always come home late, but I always read them to stay informed

I have clear LOS from the lower half of barcelona until castelldefels basically from my house

[copper carbon]

yeah haha

[ripe coral]

Ahh yeah, you're definitely connecting us up to the city, if we can get a couple of repeaters at a midpoint or up towards Tibidabo it'll start to open up coverage for a lot of the city

It'll be interesting to see what I can pick up from Urquinaona this evening!

[copper carbon]

definitely

you’ll probably pick me up

let me know when you’re up there so we can talk in meshtastic

very clear LOS

[copper carbon]

I keep getting a connection to these 2 node

[full trout]

I've also got a connection with 062d from 3 days ago

never seen c2c4

[copper carbon]

idk I keep receiving c2c4 but less often than 062d

[ripe coral]

Well, it was a good party so I didn't check the app much, but I saw nothing when I did

not even an ack

Very odd - was with the T1000E

[copper carbon]

damn

[copper carbon]

i'm not receiving any nodes anymore

I think the rain affected my node

[twilit trail]

I picked someone up in madrid on saturday lol

[wide mantle]

were you in Madrid?, apparently there's about 15 nodes in or about Madrid.

[twilit trail]

i was on the highway

[ripe coral]

Hmm, looks like my node died whilst I was away!

[ripe coral]

Couple of new nodes popped up in the city

[full trout]

Yes, I was also away for a few days and there are some new nodes on the list

[twilit trail]

Still none for me haha

[wide mantle]

how's the node network going? set any up yet?

[ripe coral]

I guess people travelling for xmas/ny etc

we have Cabe and a584 that've been active a few days now

And now one called Dupre

[twilit trail]

doing great! going to deploy a bunch of nodes i designed which are far more cheaper then raks and have much better performance (for use as nodes)

https://github.com/jycannel/DonkTastic_pcb/tree/main

[ripe coral]

oh cool, have you got ideas for where to put them already?

[twilit trail]

yeah, on all the mountain tops of extremadura

[twilit trail]

going to make like 10 to act as routers, going to try and cover half of the state this year

[ripe coral]

Wow, nice project 🙂

[twilit trail]

Ambitious 😂 I would like to succeed but we will see how the year progresses

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871540140382761020/1324446758356520990/IMG_6665.jpg?ex=67782eaa&is=6776dd2a&hm=2a9e83d5cc04771b623cca84cdbe6589083ad9367ce90da3465e14baad015c78&

[ripe coral]

Nice and compact!

Are you custom making cases or?

[twilit trail]

In the future maybe! Will edit the design to be used as a portable node. As it stands i only designed this to be a solar node

[ripe coral]

I was thinking more about for being a solar node and leaving somewhere discreetly - but maybe you're not so worried based on how remote the locations are?

[twilit trail]

exactly, Extremadura is do depopulated i dont believe it will be an issue (may be wrong haha)

[ripe coral]

Well, if someone picks one up they'll have a long way to carry it haha

[ripe coral]

Everyone still alive and meshing?

I did some travel in the last couple of weeks and took a node with me to the UK and France, seems a lot more activty over there

[wide mantle]

I'm U.K based.. there's a lot of nodes in the London area.. i've also been doing some travelling and was in Rome last week, there's no nodes there unless with Tourists.. hope the node is still growing there in Espana, i'll be back in the summer again to see if there's anything new.

👍

[ripe coral]

Yeah, we're keeping our nodes running but even in Barcelona where we obviously get a lot of tourists, it's slow progress

The Telegram group for Meshtastic spain is quite active, but not too many here it seems 😦

[full trout]

my node is down because I was using it for a school project, but I think I might be able to put it back up this weekend

[ripe coral]

doh

Yeah, think mine's down atm too

I need to run the cable outside properly so it stays powered. It's been so cold the last few days I didn't want to leave the door open a crack for the cable haha

I'll probably sort that out this weekend. I still have the car node up and running anyway

[ripe coral]

Definitely a few more nodes appearing!

I went for a drive up in Montseny and picked up quite a few, first time that’s happened

[full trout]

wow, there's quite a few of them

[ripe coral]

hmm, looks like my outdoor waterproof power supply for my node... wasn't 🙂

Hence I'm currently offline

[full trout]

Same on my side, i have to redo the entire wiring for my node because i'ts all corroded

[ripe coral]

New node in Mataro that will perhaps connect us to BCN?

[ripe coral]

Can't work out what's going on here tbh, but it looks like this node can see my little hand held node

I'm not seeing it, but it's reporting me on the map somehow

[ripe coral]

This REA node is up on les angels and seems to be connecting up a lot of the valley now

[full trout]

my node is up and running again

[full trout]

Got a connection with EETAC, form universitat UPC

[ripe coral]

Oh sweet!

I've just been out for a drive up Montseny again and got a contact with the guys in Girona

I've also found there's a Telegram for Meshtastic Catalunya which is really active

[full trout]

The mesh has really expanded in the last few months. My node has only been up for 3 days and there are already 14 nodes showing up in my list

Many ham radio operators also joined the mesh

[ripe coral]

Yup, these are all on the Telegram channel/group

I think I connected us to them when I went for a hike, so it may not be too consistent

But it's spurred me to get a node up on Montalt as it will connect us into that network of people

It looks like you're connecting us back to Barcelona too, that and the node at Cardedeu

It's frustrating my node isn't connecting us up already, but we're close to having connections from Girona to Barcelona 🙂

The Telegram channel is: @MeshtasticGirona

[ripe coral]

Ah, so there is autonomous/solar nodes taht have been deployed, hence the coverage has increased!

[full trout]

that's awesome

Did you find out about this on the telegram?

[nocturne atlas]

Hi everyone,
I have set up a permanent node on a urban area in the Basque Country, nice to see the community growing slowly here, we have made some connections across towns

Currently giving out some ready to use nodes to my friends so it grows bigger, hope we can reach Bilbao at least, I saw on the online map there is a node there, it would be awesome to be able to reach him from the coast

[ripe coral]

Yeah, I think that was in the Catalunya telegram I read it 🙂

[ripe coral]

That's awesome! I get the feeling things are really starting to pick up again, over in Catalunya we've started to see an actual network forming, rather than before where we were just independant nodes who occasionally made contact.

[ripe coral]

Planning to stick a router node up on Montalt again tomorrow

I think we have enough extra nodes now that it might connect us between Barcelona and Girona

[ripe coral]

Deployed! Seems to be picking up a lot of nodes too, way more than last time

[ripe coral]

By far the most nodes I've seen so far 🙂

[nocturne atlas]

Nice!

[ripe coral]

I think that node might just be the missing link we needed to connect two groups of nodes, hopefully

[full trout]

Same on my end, the router in Montalt is doing wonders

17 nodes online right now

and 50 on my list

[ripe coral]

Yup! It's crazy. Last time I put one in that spot it didn't pick up anything

Only thing I can think is that maybe last time there was something wrong with the config

[ripe coral]

That router is doing wonders for connecting up the mesh, furthest node I now see is 53km away 🙂

[viral trellis]

https://meshtastic.hvm.nu
I've implemented this voor EU868. It listens from mqtt.meshtastic.org and mqtt.meshnet.nl
If anybody has other mqtt server that are used, please let me know and i will add them 😉

[ripe coral]

Mesh has been busy today... for obvious reasons 🙂

[copper carbon]

yep

[astral heath]

Hi everyone, Lleida-based here. For obvious reasons interested in being part of this. Especially interested in creating a level city local message array. Which devices do you recommend me to start with?

[copper carbon]

have you ever worked with radio?

[astral heath]

Not really. Basic experience with dragino’s… planning to get radio license. Laborally i’m a software developer and devops, so i have good knowledge at communications level, but limited to digital

[copper carbon]

okay, i’m in barcelona and i’ve also been thinking of putting meshtastic stuff around here to communicate with everyone, if you want to get started try and get a ESP32 LoRa meshtastic device from aliexpress or amazon

[astral heath]

Premounted? As a t-deck? Or custom built?

[copper carbon]

and if you want to put some around lleida you can buy the parts separately like antenna, solar panels, etc and mount it

[copper carbon]

premounted is best

for your first

make sure there’s people in lleida who do have some already or else you’d be talking to nobody

make sure you also have a good LOS

[astral heath]

Los?

[copper carbon]

line of sight

[astral heath]

Ahhh i get it

[copper carbon]

no trees, buildings

a way around this is to mount it up high or on a hill

[astral heath]

During the blackout i used a pair of cb radios to speak with my family… Here in lleida we have the castle in the middle of the city, but our tech park is on top of a hill and i could talk with most of the city

[copper carbon]

oh awesome

[astral heath]

I assume signal is not very resilent when passing through buildings?

[copper carbon]

nope

frequency isn’t very good

[astral heath]

The motorola t-82 worked ok trough at least 6 blocks (awesome)

[copper carbon]

yeah ofc

but with meshtastic you got encryption, messaging etc

[astral heath]

Yes yes

[copper carbon]

a lot harder to transmit signals

[astral heath]

Ok i will try thanks

[copper carbon]

yeah no problem

[astral heath]

But i’ll get a hamradio license too

😄

[copper carbon]

no need if you want to do meshtastic but sure

[astral heath]

I’ll do it because (at least here) we have a lot of people doing ham radio

[copper carbon]

oh okay yeah

[astral heath]

But i’ll for sure try meshtatic with my gf (she says hi to you xd)

[copper carbon]

haha yess

[astral heath]

So you are a lot of people in barcelona meshing?

[copper carbon]

50/50

I can’t see much people

which is why we need signal repeaters and boosters

barcelona has a lot of interference

[astral heath]

Oh right

It can be interesting to put a repeater in that hill… we have sn office there so it may be an interesting project

[copper carbon]

yeah

[astral heath]

Tdeck plus better? Or a normal one

[copper carbon]

eh

overkill for now

[astral heath]

Thx

Any reccomended one?

[copper carbon]

yeah let me think

[astral heath]

Thx

[copper carbon]

https://lilygo.cc/products/t-echo-lilygo

this is good

standard

[astral heath]

868 mhz?

[copper carbon]

yep

you come to barcelona often?

[astral heath]

Not much really, but is near

[copper carbon]

ah okay

[astral heath]

I work for a bcn company, but remotely

[copper carbon]

nice

[astral heath]

Will let you know if i do, but i’ll keep you updated with this

[copper carbon]

yeah sure

[astral heath]

Thanks for your help!

[copper carbon]

no problem!

let me know if you do proceed with this, maybe we can connect barcelona and lleida

[astral heath]

Sure, interested on this, specially after monday xd

[copper carbon]

yeah haha

[astral heath]

How you do connect it? Via ham or something?

[copper carbon]

via repeaters

[astral heath]

Hmmm you leave repeaters in the woods ? 😛

[copper carbon]

I will

[astral heath]

Haha

If it works properly i’ll try to create a local mesh, but it seems interesting too

[copper carbon]

yeah

[astral heath]

Will write here about the experiments in lleida, lets see how long it takes the t-echo to be delivered

[copper carbon]

yea sure

[astral heath]

Take care everyone!

[copper carbon]

take care!

[full trout]

There are a bunch in the area. There are some repeaters on the top of mountains which help connect people from further distances.

This is a map with the nodes that share their location

[copper carbon]

since when has there been this many people?

[full trout]

These are all the connections i've gotten. Some of them are old (up to 25 days ago), But there still are about 15 nodes online all the time

[copper carbon]

wow

[full trout]

Siftah has installed a repeater in Montalt which connects to repeaters in girona and everyone in between

[copper carbon]

oh nice

[full trout]

I can still get a connection with some nodes in barcelona, especially a good one wit ITworm, if you can get a connection with him you should be able to connect up to girona through the repeaters

[copper carbon]

okay i’ll turn my node on now

brb

where is ITworm located?

[full trout]

It isn't showing on my map rn but i remember him being near hotel vela

[copper carbon]

okay

[full trout]

has your node been on in the last few months? I'll check if it's on my node list

last month* because i've reinstalled the firmware on my device

[copper carbon]

nope

it’s on now

let me know if you see me

[full trout]

Ok, you will have to wait a little, mine was also off and it took around 10 minutes for it to connect to ITworm

[copper carbon]

okay

I sent messages

try to send

[full trout]

If i send messages others will also get notified

[copper carbon]

and?

haha

[full trout]

It's a bit late

i'm doing random traceroutes

which also send signals

[copper carbon]

okay

these always show up

[full trout]

they don't show up on my list

[copper carbon]

hm

i’m pointing at hotel vela and I don’t get IT worm

[full trout]

are you using the yagi?

[copper carbon]

yeah

[full trout]

try using the other one, maybe you'll have better luck

there are a few nodes in bcn, the yagi limits the reception to them

[copper carbon]

okay I will

i’ll do it tomorrow

i’ll give the yagi a chance to try to redeem itself

[full trout]

If you can, leave the node on overnight

[copper carbon]

yeah that’s what i’m doing

[full trout]

okay

[copper carbon]

@full trout

ITWorm!!

[full trout]

Perfect!

[copper carbon]

what’s your hex?

I think I might have it

5 hops away

[full trout]

2250

[copper carbon]

I found this person 6 hops way

haha

very far

[full trout]

this person is from mataro

i've also got a good connection with him

[copper carbon]

oh

well I don’t see you

weird

[full trout]

You probably have to wait a little bit more

[copper carbon]

here’s my map

[full trout]

Have you got a connection to siftah?

[copper carbon]

2024

haha

long time ago

[full trout]

oh ok

[full trout]

it's only a matter of time untill you connect with my node and the other repeaters

[copper carbon]

what’s weird is that I g egg max retransmission reached

[full trout]

hops?

[copper carbon]

what?

when sending message

I get max retransmission reached

[full trout]

i never got that

is it like an error message?

[copper carbon]

it means nobody acknowledged

[full trout]

oh, on android there's just an icon for that

[copper carbon]

it means nobody got my message

ah

[full trout]

I sometimes also have the same problem

what device have you got?

[copper carbon]

heltec v3

[full trout]

It could be something with the heltecs but i'm not sure

[copper carbon]

hm idk

I got acknowledged with the yagi

[full trout]

in my experience, people can still recieve the messages even if it sais that nobody acknowledged

[copper carbon]

ah

[full trout]

it also could be that you just have a low signal but i don't really know

[copper carbon]

yeah maybe

[copper carbon]

just got a message

[copper carbon]

@full trout node has been up for 2 days and I so don’t see you

and like 20 nodes showed up

all the way in zaragoza and girona

[full trout]

whaat that's so weird

I can see most of these nodes on my list

but not yours

[copper carbon]

yeah weird

transmitting for my node doesn’t work well

but receiving yes

[full trout]

Same on my side

I've always felt like something was off with my node, because traceroutes dont really work and sending messages is a bit glitchy

[copper carbon]

yep traceroute don’t work for me either

what node do you have?

[full trout]

heltec v2

[copper carbon]

oh same I have heltec v3

I think it’s time to think about upgrading

to like a lilygo or something

[full trout]

Yeah, i think I'll have a look at the heltec t114, i've seen good reviews about it

[copper carbon]

oh okay

[full trout]

The lilygo also seems like a good option

[copper carbon]

have you seen the T1000-E

it’s like a little portable clip on card sized node

[full trout]

I've seen it but haven't really looked into it

[copper carbon]

how much is the t114?

[full trout]

cheap, like 25€ on aliexpress

[copper carbon]

okay

this one look good?

[full trout]

I don't really know, i haven't done my reaserch on lilygo devices

[copper carbon]

oh ok

[full trout]

You could ask in the general chat

[copper carbon]

maybe siftah knows

do you know siftah personally?

[full trout]

yeah, i think siftah has some lilygo devices

[full trout]

nope, it's a coincidence that we just live very close to each other

[copper carbon]

oh damn

you guys ever meet up?

[full trout]

no

i think i saw his car once

with the little antenna on the roof

[copper carbon]

hahah

wow

[full trout]

lets see if siftah sees this and can help you out with the lilygo

[copper carbon]

yeah

[full trout]

I found a lilygo on aliexpress for 25€ so i might buy one instead of the heltec

[copper carbon]

send link

[full trout]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10000290160030.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.5ff1eb3dhq9bmF&algo_pvid=c85c64ea-3310-4f80-9482-822ad9c733f9&algo_exp_id=c85c64ea-3310-4f80-9482-822ad9c733f9-1&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"279"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!22.19!22.19!!!177.52!177.52!%40211b65de17463555880754613e9884!20000000162945459!sea!ES!2333444505!X&curPageLogUid=nAHyvGthMshy&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[copper carbon]

DAMN

[full trout]

long link lol

[copper carbon]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10000290160030.html

this works better

[full trout]

yeah

i'm not sure which model it is

but i guess it should work

[copper carbon]

oh yeah I saw this one

it looked good

has an SMA connector

should do

[full trout]

it's cheaper than the heltec

[copper carbon]

yeah

[full trout]

there's also the T3S3, I don't know which one is better

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005004627139838.html

[copper carbon]

it’s the same I think

[full trout]

I've asked in the general chat and the t3 v1.6.1 is unsupported

if you buy one you should buy the t3s3

[copper carbon]

okay

thanks

so we buy that?

is it good?

[full trout]

I guess, it costs the same as the heltec t114, but i think lilygo is a bit better

[copper carbon]

asking in chat rn

[ripe coral]

jeees

[copper carbon]

hey you’re back!

[ripe coral]

I haven't been getting any notifications for activity in this channel so missed all the chat!

[copper carbon]

oh damn

[ripe coral]

Yeah, I just read back!

[copper carbon]

i’ll give you a TL;DR

just hold on

[ripe coral]

I think my current recommendation for a node would be the T114 as Seba mentioned

I've been using those heavily recently as I bought a couple of (extremely expensive due to customs) Muziworks nodes with them in, which are really nice.

[copper carbon]

I have been seeing many many many nodes here, but no ACKs from any nodes when I send trace routes or messages, I think my TX is weak/broken and Seba’s as well. We need a recommended cheap node that works better for transmitting and same level or better reception

[ripe coral]

40 euros delivered: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005007916299029.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.19.13ab194dMh3e0o&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp

screen+case option, if you're using with a phone (attended node) then the GPS isn't super necessary. If it's for stand alone use (ie: as a basestation) you maybe want GPS/GNSS so it has the time.

Yeah, I've always thought your nodes behaviour was super weird to not see anybody, especially as I got lots of nodes visible when driving through the city etc.

[copper carbon]

no we see a lot of nodes

they can’t see us tho

[ripe coral]

Gotchya, yeah, your receive is much stronger than transmit, it's odd.

[copper carbon]

which is why I can see yours but not Sebas

[copper carbon]

yeah

is yours even on rn?

[ripe coral]

Should be, yeah

[copper carbon]

hm, I haven’t seen it in a while

I got someone from zaragoza

did you?

like 200km away

I got people from girona

mataró

not you however recently

what’s your hex?

[ripe coral]

Nobody that far south, Casteldelfells area is the furthest South I see

MSX5 in Sant Boi de Llobregat

[copper carbon]

yep I see that one

[copper carbon]

ff3c last time I saw was a long time ago

[ripe coral]

ah, ff3c I think was/is the node fixed to one of my cars, sadly, that node has passed away, it released it's blue smoke and transited to silicon heaven 😦

RIP (Radio In Peace)

[copper carbon]

hahaha

RIP

[ripe coral]

This is how my node map looks on my basestation node right now, obviously not all those nodes are online at the moment

[copper carbon]

can you send out traceroutes to nodes like ITworm around there?

[ripe coral]

Ah no, ff3c is my basestation, that one is definitely running!

[copper carbon]

oh there’s an msx5 and msx6?

they’re far from each other tho

[copper carbon]

I also get radio prepper

[ripe coral]

For me ITWorm hasn't been online for 25 hours, I suspect that's a node that occasionally gets a flat battery or something, it doesn't seem super reliable

Right now my node hasn't seen Seba for 6 days either, though I'm pretty sure his node's running tbh

[copper carbon]

yeah his node is running, I don’t get it either

[ripe coral]

I see Encr nearish to you, they were online 2 minutes ago

[copper carbon]

yeah encr is on hill not as close as ITworm

what about c2c4

or any of these

[ripe coral]

Nope

[copper carbon]

odd

[copper carbon]

encr for me is a bit higher up on the map

try it

oh wait no nvm

it’s not

it’s there yeah

encr last seen for me is 5 mins ago

[ripe coral]

Another theory: It could be that there's quite a few nodes within the city, but because of limited range and high number of nodes, they're using up all the hops before getting to a node that has good reception/transmission out of the city.

[copper carbon]

it’s very strong signal

[copper carbon]

yeah

that’s not a theory

[ripe coral]

Encr's location is approximate, so it's likely he's anywhere in that circle somewhere

[copper carbon]

😂

[copper carbon]

yeah

try to traceroute him

I might look into getting me a t-echo if that’s better

encr is t-echo

[ripe coral]

T-Echo's are pretty good, there's some odd quirks with the cases on them (the buttons get easily pressed) but I've found they work pretty well.

[copper carbon]

yeah

[ripe coral]

The solar powered router on Montalt is a T-Echo in a waterproof housing

[copper carbon]

oh nice

[ripe coral]

It has a better antenna (Gizont) on that one, but I've had decent results with the provided one too. More expensive than a T114, but same low power consumption etc.

[copper carbon]

should I go to the other side of the building to connect to you?

maybe that’ll do it

i’m facing south

i’ll go to the north facing side

[ripe coral]

I'd think you should be able to see more of the nodes from where you are, yeah

Your location/height really is perfect for covering a lot of the city tbh, it's crazy you don't see more!

[copper carbon]

yeah I know

i’m going to the other side of the building

i’ll see if I can get a ping or something with you

try sending stuff

okay send now

[ripe coral]

Sent

I'm not getting a response on the traceroute either

[copper carbon]

on the other side I get a 1F26 node

[ripe coral]

There's now a router up in Colserolla too, can you see that?

[copper carbon]

but it’s 3 hops away

[ripe coral]

CRTR / COLLSEROLA-R-868

[ripe coral]

Yup, surprised that's 3 hops away from you

I would imagine, you'd have much better luck if more of those nodes in Barcelona were set to CLIENT MUTE, instead of CLIENT

[copper carbon]

bruh it’s so odd how I can see lights blinking up on the mountain very far from me but this heltec can’t get a fucking signal from 300 meters away

like are my eyes better antennas haha

[ripe coral]

Yeah, it could definitely be that your heltec is broken 🙂

[copper carbon]

the screen is cracked but I don’t think that does anything

[ripe coral]

Eyes are amazing though, you can see candlelight for miles if it's dark enough, haha

[copper carbon]

yeah exactly

[ripe coral]

I suspect when the power was off we got pretty amazing connectivity on Meshtastic too, as there'd have been much less radiation in the background

[copper carbon]

imagine if there was a node right where that light is

[copper carbon]

yeah I thought so too

I said the exact same thing

[ripe coral]

Wonder what that light is? Probably the area around the base of the ferrocarril or something?

I think there's maybe a football pitch with flood lights round there somewhere too

[copper carbon]

near (41.4831571, 2.2180269)

[full trout]

Very odd, I can see your node right now

I think that something is messed up with the transmitter

[copper carbon]

have you seen consuelo node?

[copper carbon]

same

[copper carbon]

the light is near that node

[full trout]

I can see the 352f node, the 996 node appears offline

[ripe coral]

Hmm, you'd not seen that from your location, it's behind Badalona, surely?

[copper carbon]

352f is right next door to me

[ripe coral]

I don't see Consuelo node, I'd expect to unless it's quite low down

[copper carbon]

yeah it’s probably down

[full trout]

siftah has a node named 352f

[ripe coral]

Yeah, 996 node is offline atm, I only turn that on if I'm driving

[copper carbon]

haha

[ripe coral]

The 352f node is a little T1000-E I've started carrying with me, set to Client Mute

[copper carbon]

crazy