surely the gold borders = more skill
#[Asia Server] Discussions
lone ember
peak idol
Is there a link to the Pacific prince cup LAN Decks?
marsh cedar
Is there a link to the Pacific prince cup LAN Decks?
yeah, probz just ask one of the staff. Or watch the Videos on Youtube for them
wary silo
I don't think it's public so you'll have to watch on youtube for the exact lists
or you can ask someone to do the lists for you
https://gjfleo.github.io/summoners-summit/en/tournament/1dc4c42d8f8b9534/
velvet widget
wary silo
or you can ask someone to do the lists for you
https://gjfleo.github.io/summoner...
cc @peak idol if it's taking too much time for you
loud dune
@odd juniper Possible to not cancel a round, still counts as my loss, but report oppoenent for abusive language?
wary silo
<@209551520008503297> Possible to not cancel a round, still counts as my loss, b...
you should just report your match result as-is then open a Qixing Hotline ticket to report the opponent
alpine pecan
How is ctg going?
I see, 35 matches are done and 3 days left
@spice ravine people are thinking it's over, it's ok now for you to do 35-0 and surprise everyone
alpine pecan
Ok, 29-6
alpine pecan
trust
You say that as if you're so far from the leaderboard that it's impossible. While in reality being 4th in the leaderboard 
Truly a Nomad moment
plucky roost
not top 1 ?
alpine pecan
Shh, he's trying to be lowkey
plucky roost
trail dragon
Nomad is too strong, don't even need to play all games
pine cliff
Nomad is too strong, don't even need to play all games
sly briar
Nomad is too strong, he broke his dad’s whip after failing to qualify by losing to JP and KR
slow trout
strong too is Nomad 
idle quest
nomad stonk!
cloud sparrow
What is this NPC copy pasta
alpine pecan
What is this NPC copy pasta
What copy pasta? We are talking about the might of @spice ravine
sly briar
plucky roost
Why's Minty a new member here ?
spice ravine
Upgrade your humor, son
blaming ur dad for not comprehending
first stage of grief : denial
alpine pecan
Who's the dad here?
spice ravine
who tf cares about winrate
it's like the dad purposefully loses in order for his son to feel happy
sly briar
When the dad success, the son cheered for him
When the son failed, he decided to unfriend everyone, even his dad
lament rock
only 1 win in preli. 😭 didn't think tcg will be so hard after a few months of break.
i miss the times when i had 20 wins in preli during 2023 s5.
wary silo
only 1 win in preli. 😭 didn't think tcg will be so hard after a few months of...
lemme guess... you lost to this?
lament rock
so true 
lament rock
all these whale decks had infinite ramps and hp buffs. 
the fun monklee, shenhe conduct, oceanid decks ripped to oblivion.
guess i am just ranting so i should stop
wary silo
silk kelp
all these whale decks had infinite ramps and hp buffs. <:LumineDisgust:894741364...
Well tbf Oceanid then is what 🐳 is now kind of 
lament rock
oceanid can't even have 3 water creatures anymore 
idle quest
guess i am just ranting so i should stop <:GanyUh:875231356718841917>
its ok to ranting, everyone did that
cloud sparrow
even im ready<:kek:893631000649793547>
What's this
subtle shard
What's this
Poison 🦤
cloud sparrow
spice tinsel
Help im too addicted to YGO now
which one is more fun?
gi is my first tcg
plucky roost
to me YGO, i wouldnt even mind letting myself being FTK by my opponent watching their combo for 5 mins straight is entertaining ngl
alpine pecan
trail dragon
its more fun than whale
Isn't just solitaire
I've seen some people playing 10-15 minutes turn on turn and the other player lost without even getting 1st turn
plucky roost
well the game is quite fast ngl
most of the time you will end on turn 1-5
which is about 5-10 mins
-> better than GITCG
cloud sparrow
Tcg is deadge sadly
alpine pecan
Tcg is deadge sadly <:cri:887814429385834537>
Wow, when did zenin become an egirl
Oh yeah, I remember you were egirl last season too
cloud sparrow
Wow, when did zenin become an egirl
Always have been
alpine pecan
Always have been
How's the egirl business going then? Is it profitable?
cloud sparrow
Wouldn't be in the business if it wasn't profitable
alpine pecan
spice ravine
plucky roost
Who said im leaving
wary silo
alpine pecan
idle quest
silk kelp
sorry
onyx oyster
sturdy coral
cinder bison
Did everyone received the primogems from CTG S3?
I haven't received the primogems yet.
jagged merlin
Did everyone received the primogems from CTG S3?
Everyone did in last patch
cinder bison
Everyone did in last patch
#tournament-updates message
What I meant was the rewards sent three days ago
jagged merlin
That's what i meant too
The card back was pretty late, but the primo already sent in last patch
cinder bison
Oh ok, the post makes it seem like they sent it at the same time
I just wish they will give a date about when they give the rewards instead of suddenly appearing in in-game mailbox
stable sequoia
no updates on what the ctg points are for yet?
cloud sparrow
No more tourney from next patch
stable sequoia
silk kelp
no updates on what the ctg points are for yet?
Idk what they are for but hopefully people with 3 points can get in 
stable sequoia
surely
bleak salmon
Idk what they are for but hopefully people with 3 points can get in <:Kokopium:8...
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silk kelp
||<:kopium:1031604593559351306>||
Thank you for the support Billy the Booli🙏
bleak salmon
Thank you for the support Billy the Booli🙏
wary silo
51-15 = 36, 36/9 = 4
silk kelp
<:GleeSis:1251118188578738247>
~~why are your booli cross server though 
~~
stable sequoia
||<:kopium:1031604593559351306>||
is that kopium as in 3 points won't get in or the ctg points are for nothing
silk kelp
is that kopium as in 3 points won't get in or the ctg points are for nothing <:K...
Hopefully it's not the latter if it's the former that's extremely understandable
silk kelp
im just copying ryssa
bleak salmon
~~why are your booli cross server though <:QiqiWGS:892563543768055808> ~~
ayahah
bleak salmon
<:kleestare:1238023982343655464>
wary silo
@odd juniper a bit of a bot feedback: in #1071009830044704878, instead of showing ???, I think it should show who's going to land there (e.g. RO16 5th W)
it's hard to imagine a standard single-elim bracket if you don't know how SE brackets are typically seeded and the embeds don't look like a bracket
open moon
<@209551520008503297> a bit of a bot feedback: in <#1071009830044704878>, instea...
good idea imo!
odd juniper
<@209551520008503297> a bit of a bot feedback: in <#1071009830044704878>, instea...
it's quite hard to fit things into the hard limit of 6k characters per embedded message on discord, i don't think it's possible when the current design supports up to Ro32 KO... But I'll see if it can be done 
wary silo
it's quite hard to fit things into the hard limit of 6k characters per embedded ...
I'm pretty sure that by my example every string should be shorter than a <@[Discord UID]>
I might be wrong though
odd juniper
I'm pretty sure that by my example every string should be shorter than a `<@[Dis...
oh true, though i don't think it's easy to add these in, and the meaning it delivers is worth the effort... something like this is being considered, tho
emoji voting "tournament" back in tavern's 0th day
sturdy coral
puga
wary silo
oh true, though i don't think it's easy to add these in, and the meaning it deli...
the thing about making a graphic like this is that if you want to code it fast then it's not flexible, and vice versa
not to mention it would look bad on phones
esp with 16+ participants
... oh, and it's going to be a mess for SS.
-# not really if each group gets its own graphic but I think it can get messy
odd juniper
why texts smol
but ye, it can get messy
truth is, it can help with the discord IDs in embed not loaded to actual name as well
theres a work around by checking #1073554428474437743 and getting back to #1071009830044704878 but... meh
work around is still a work around
wary silo
why texts smol
-# texttexttext
-# try using it next time... somewhere
odd juniper
dw about it, ik, and usage of it is limited if you put a link after this kinda markdown 
dont try doing it to get yelled by Sussy
wary silo
I'm glad Sussy knows about that
odd juniper
she knows all and sees all 
wary silo
theres a work around by checking <#1073554428474437743> and getting back to <#10...
anyways I think the other workaround is to just load the list of qualified players on top in the same style as the leaderboard
because it appears all you need is one instance of those names displayed on the client in that session for it to be cached
so why not have it done in the same place where you're going to check the bracket anyway
inland jacinth
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wary silo
wintry lintel
੭ ᐕ)੭*⁾⁾
steel radish
barren mirage
sly briar
wary silo
@odd juniper just for the sake of transparency (regarding the ban issued here: #tournament-updates message):
why are these players banned from the Tavern server as a whole when the violation could have been addressed with a ban from the tournament systems instead?
-# I would like to apologize everyone for bringing this up again, but considering that the next wave of tournaments is coming (Enka HYPE!!!), it would be better to make sure things are as clear as possible 
open moon
<@209551520008503297> just for the sake of transparency (regarding the ban issue...
I think they weren't going to make that publicly transparent
Although I do know quite a few players have taken a step back from Tavern/GITCG due to the decisions made 
wary silo
I think it should be transparent, unless the case has more to do than just competitive conduct - in other esports such things are public most of the time
silk kelp
I think they weren't going to make that publicly transparent
Why is that if I may ask #nosy
Also I understand those players tbh 💀
open moon
Part of it I'm sure is due to what they said, they couldn't give additional context because it involves personal info/data apparently
And the other part of it is probably because moderation things are kept under tight wraps in Tavern, someone was recently warned not to share decisions made in Mod Mail
open moon
I think it *should* be transparent, unless the case has more to do than just com...
I agree with you
Esports is different from general server moderation
I don't agree with having a lack of transparency when it comes to esports-related events. It impacts competitive integrity by quite a bit. But it must also be tricky for the mod team if they have sensitive information they can't easily make public
I don't know much about this case specifically, I'm mostly making assumptions
It's just one of those things where it's all been said and done already
spice ravine
open moon
Either way, even though there's a new cardback announced, there is currently no Serious Showdown leaderboard despite points resetting
So I'm not sure when the next series of events will be
Might have to hang tight for a while 
wary silo
Either way, even though there's a new cardback announced, there is currently no ...
I think points are not resetting, but the schedule is super tight right now for another regional
we're currently matching CN in terms of card back distribution, and CN is currently at the beginning of S3 (each CN season is a new set of card backs)
and right now the schedule in CN is point tournaments from 5.0-5.2, and regional major in 5.3
if we were to match their schedule, then SS can only happen either now or next version
open moon
I think points are not resetting, but the schedule is super tight right now for ...
Points were announced to reset after last SS
So they did reset
That's why the SS leaderboard doesn't exist atm. That was for S1-2
open moon
There is no SS this time around
wary silo
yet
spice ravine
surly
open moon
The leaderboard was up far in advance
spice ravine
if there's no ss this time
why do they mention the points thingy in the streams
if we didn't collect any points so far that means all of the grinding was pointless ?
open moon
why do they mention the points thingy in the streams
It's always there
open moon
if we didn't collect any points so far that means all of the grinding was pointl...
We don't know for sure
It's just my personal speculation, since there's no SS leaderboard for 3 seasons now
spice ravine
open moon
sly briar
better for me
I skip 3 CTG recently due to my busy schedule
Now i can catch up back with everyone
minor hatch
There is no SS this time around
i hope there is one
cuz otherwise my only good performance in S3 is gone to waste😭
silk kelp
I hope there is one too, those 3 (three) points could be useful to me
tiny dirge
I just want there to be a leaderboard to look at
sly briar
I just want there to be a leaderboard to look at
Fashion leaderboard, 1st place get 130, second get 70 while we all know the qualification requirement is only 2 points in Asia
open moon
I just want there to be a leaderboard to look at
They'll probably only set one up if it leads somewhere again
coarse zinc
<@209551520008503297> just for the sake of transparency (regarding the ban issue...
Oi! sorry for the late response. As an Adepti and Genius Invokator, We have had in depth conversations with several members of the various division and come to the conclusion that matters of the magnitude are within clear violation of Genshin Impact's Terms of Service as well as Discord's own Terms of Service. thus they were banned from both the tournament and the server.
@open moon 
coarse zinc
sturdy coral
wait so it was beyond the scope of esports?
also im not sure what discord's terms of service had to do with the whole incident
i thought the whole thing was about people being banned for allegedly competing with multiple genshin accounts in the same regional server
wary silo
Oi! sorry for the late response. As an Adepti and Genius Invokator, We have had ...
I have the same concern as the person directly above me - if the violation was merely as described in the announcement then I believe it would only violate tournament rules and the Genshin Impact ToS, not the Discord ToS itself.
I just want to confirm if it is true that the players violated more than what was described in the announcement, because if they got banned for "violating the Discord ToS" when such judgement is made just because they violated the tournament rules and/or Genshin Impact's ToS, it is going to set a bad precedence (especially considering how previously a confirmed case of multiaccounting only led to a 2-season CTG ban and not a server ban).
(I'm not saying that they should not be banned if they violated the Genshin Impact ToS - the Genshin Impact ToS is part of the rules after all - but I want to make sure that there is valid ground to say that they violated the Discord ToS. If they are only violating the CTG tournament rules, it should not automatically be treated as a Genshin Impact ToS violation or a Discord ToS violation unless there's a valid reason to say so.)
coarse zinc
It all depends on the case and the severity of infractions. this includes searching into previous seasons of CTG as well. We don't chose this option lightly or without valid reason and discussion with the team.
The actions committed by these users not only break our rules but also deprive honest skilled players of the potential at reaching higher leaderboard and possible participation in KO rounds and possibly even finals.
spice ravine
not everyone
sturdy coral
was violation of tournament rules and genshin impact tos considered violation of discord tos?
spice ravine
not everyone
some got caught in technicality
sturdy coral
i feel like discord tos is whole different kettle of fish
coarse zinc
i feel like discord tos is whole different kettle of fish
a good comparison is for this like leaks and Leakers
one will get you a stern talking to about not sharing them...
the other is a serious matter that can result in legal troubles
spice ravine
no man should have all that power
the clocks ticking i just count the hour
do u listen to kanye west?
coarse zinc
?
spice ravine
paypal link ?
coarse zinc
tbh i dont even know... ive never had west in any of my user names...
it plays off Anarchy...
the Kaye is just like phonenetic for K
spice ravine
paypal.com/sussywashere
404 error
spice ravine
the Kaye is just like phonenetic for K
oh
spice ravine
i had nothing to do with ur name
pe
i just asked bcz i felt like it
as u can see my username is
just one of his album
coarse zinc
people be asking u these dumb questions just bcz u have a similar name
tbf your name sounds more like someone who plays horro games like fnaf
sturdy coral
a good comparison is for this like leaks and Leakers
Sorry, I couldnt really understand the analogy or how it relate to the point earlier. Did you meant to say some discord tos rules that aren't that important to ban you for breaking them, but others are so essential that breaking them even once will put you in big troubles?
Nevertheless, I still dont understand how violation of tournament rules are considered violation of discord tos.
coarse zinc
im not listening to kanye
eminem has a few new good songs
spice ravine
coarse zinc
Nevertheless, I still dont understand how violation of tournament rules are cons...
when you join the server, you agree to follow all of #📑rules , even if you are just here for CTG. which include Discord ToS.
sturdy coral
yeah but the question was if they were banned from violating discord tos
coarse zinc
yes
wary silo
yes
I just want to confirm: is it a direct Discord ToS violation and not an inferred one due to violation of the CTG tournament rules or the Genshin Impact ToS?
coarse zinc
I just want to confirm: is it a direct Discord ToS violation and not an inferred...
From Discord ToS Guidelines:
18. Do not misrepresent your identity on Discord in a deceptive or harmful way. This includes creating fake profiles and attempts to impersonate an individual, group, or organization. (See our Identity and Authenticity Policy Explainer for more.)
and
sturdy coral
From Discord ToS Guidelines:
18. Do not misrepresent your identity on Discord in...
ok that makes sense.
honestly i was very confused before that clarification
coarse zinc
sorry about that
sooo many ToS things
sometimes its hard to keep track of them...
as a further note:
- Do not engage in activities that fraudulently generate a profit at the expense of others.
can also apply, even if is just a "small" prize pool
coarse zinc
spice ravine
will i get banned for being a Kanye album
impersonating as an entity
im deceiving people into thinking kanye is better than their fav music artist
coarse zinc
im deceiving people into thinking kanye is better than their fav music artist
no people know truth
but you can keep your dream alive
spice ravine
coarse zinc
coarse zinc
i here by ban u for impersonating as shark girl from zzz
how do you know im not a shark girl?
hmmmmmmmmmm
spice ravine
no people know truth
this
spice ravine
but you can keep your dream alive
.
coarse zinc
u were sparkle before
wary silo
From Discord ToS Guidelines:
18. Do not misrepresent your identity on Discord in...
I would argue that what could have been the Community Guideline #18 violation would have been a Genshin Impact ToS violation instead (because players are likely still representing themselves as themselves on Discord, but the misrepresentation/impersonation happens in-game by ways of the shared Genshin Impact account). (Of course, if both players somehow share a Discord account, I could understand why #18 would apply.)
Other than that, I think your explanation is sufficient enough (especially on #22 - thank you for pointing that one out).
coarse zinc
I would argue that what could have been the Community Guideline #18 violation wo...
sorry i cant be more detailed then that tho.
in a prefect world, we would if we could...
wary silo
@coarse zinc actually, I have a question: at roughly which level of CTG rule violation would be severe enough that it's a violation of Discord's Community Guideline #22?
because I can argue that the multiaccounting case earlier this year would have also been counted as a violation of #22
coarse zinc
i wouldnt say there is definitive answer to that, cuz reality isnt so perfect. you could argue that if a multiaccount placed within or even effected ANY of the top players scores. you could have a case for banning.
wary silo
i wouldnt say there is definitive answer to that, cuz reality isnt so perfect. y...
I think this is where things need to be codified better - if one player gets server-banned while another player only gets a 2-season CTG ban while both players violate the same Community Guideline #22 (which is server-bannable) then it does get confusing
granted, one case was more eggregious than the other, but my point still stands just in case such a situation could arise
coarse zinc
we are always trying to improve our explanations and make better clarification of the rules players need to adhere too.
again in a perfect world, peeps shouldnt be Alting
wary silo
on that note, I think the rules and regulations should make it more clear that CTG violations may lead to a server ban
regardless of Strikes
the current literature only says that violations may lead to CTG ban, and the server ban part is only stated alongside Strikes
coarse zinc
as you said, it was more eggregious then past cases. and the time it takes to investigate and uncover all the facts for some of these cases isnt always immediate... tbf the can lead into quite the rabbit hole....
sturdy coral
on that note, I think the rules and regulations should make it more clear that C...
i think this is fair suggestion
ozma's case was also a genshin and discord tos violation after all
wary silo
ozma's case was also a genshin and discord tos violation after all
frankly saying, if we exclude the Community Guideline #22 (and its Genshin Impact ToS equivalent) part of that case then that case actually does not violate any other part of either ToS
both HoYoverse and Discord do not disallow multiaccounting by itself
sturdy coral
frankly saying, if we exclude the Community Guideline #22 (and its Genshin Impac...
it violates #18
coarse zinc
no, not exactly... but yes in terms of competive advantage
sturdy coral
bc they created a fake profile and misrepresentation of identity
wary silo
can be argued to be either fake profile or alias
though evidences on that case were pretty clear which case that case fell into
coarse zinc
I mean who even reads ToS's nowadays besides weirdos like me...
look at that one disney+ court case that almost happened
sturdy coral
~~look at that one disney+ court case that almost happened~~
that was so ridiculous
coarse zinc
fr
sturdy coral
i read it and couldnt believe it
wary silo
I mean who even reads ToS's nowadays besides weirdos like me...
I mean it's the job of TOs to read and write regulations to avoid ambiguity and protect the rights of all parties involved, after all
coarse zinc
i meant on the user end
odd juniper
it was mainly the severity of the infractions leading to a "suitable" outcome
coarse zinc
oh no we summoned a pon
wary silo
btw S6 coming soon
plucky roost
Tell them to Paypal back
wary silo
actually
plucky roost
obsidian steppeBOT
spooky sussy noises
wary silo
Pon...?
odd juniper
*spooky sussy noises*
go back to making preps duh
coarse zinc
btw S6 coming soon
wary silo
one thing I'd like to suggest: can we make it clear that players should stick to one Genshin Impact account and one Discord account within a game server across CTG seasons?
just so people would not accidentally violate the multiaccounting rules
wary silo
you had to say something...
hey you know what Pon says
"Sussy sees all and knows all."
coarse zinc
wdym me?
wary silo
yeah Kaye has a point
it was me
sorry
also the debate ended at 5am, not started at 5am 
plucky roost
well i mean you can choose a more comfy time for you to debate 
coarse zinc
you know they prob have a diff timezone right?
plucky roost
but yeah anyways have sweet dreams
coarse zinc
who sleeping?
coarse zinc
im watching a movie xD
plucky roost
coarse zinc
then its dailies...
plucky roost
wary silo
im watching a movie xD
wh- what- uhh- huh?
coarse zinc
wh- what- uhh- huh?
irl
wary silo
no I mean
you stayed up until 5am to resolve this problem and then just...
watch a movie?
wary silo
coarse zinc
joys of multi screens
stable sequoia
one thing I'd like to suggest: can we make it clear that players should stick to...
no the restriction is only for one season iirc
if you want to play in AS this season and change to NA next season you should be able to
wary silo
no the restriction is only for one season iirc
no I mean, say, you can switch between servers or play multiple servers at once, but for each server you play, regardless of season, you have to stick to one Discord account and one Genshin Impact account
like if KevinZ's NA account is Proxy with a certain UID, then he has to always stick to that Proxy Discord account with that UID, and not, idk, mix & match and use the NA account on Quagsirefan and throw his EU UID into the Proxy account
and even if he only uses one of his accounts for a certain CTG, the rules still have to apply all the same
stable sequoia
huh that rule is misleading then
plucky roost
~~time to make a discord account and register someone else UID ~~
~~ofc it wont work lmao ~~
sly briar
~~time to make a discord account and register someone else UID ~~
Wait
That’s actually
Sabotagable
velvet widget
these goons not reading tournament updates 
sly briar
these goons not reading tournament updates <:WorryPat:954328661270618122>
Who is this random cat
sturdy coral
Who is this random cat
he is one of your goons
plucky roost
That’s actually
Nah you will need to actually play at least a single game in that account to get both discord account banned
spice ravine
slow trout
sturdy coral
alpine pecan
silk kelp
...I have a stupid question, do you think 3 (three) Cat's Tail points is enough to qualify for whatever future event they have?
onyx oyster
...I have a stupid question, do you think 3 (three) Cat's Tail points is enough ...
I dunno man
silk kelp
I dunno man
Thanks for the answer.. well hopefully it is enough
wary silo
...I have a stupid question, do you think 3 (three) Cat's Tail points is enough ...
as of right now we're already at the 4th season of the cycle
assuming the cycle ends with 2024S6, we would have a maximum of 128 players with at least 5 points on each server; however, invaders might bring that number lower
-# what I'm writing after this is going to be purely speculation
assuming we're trying to match CN's schedule - so another regional in 5.3 - that means that whatever selection process for that has to be done by 5.1 (Atlantic) or 5.2 (Pacific) to leave time for visa processing, meaning it's not possible for Atlantic to have both CTG:SS and PC:RS; for the sake of parity, assume the same would apply for Pacific
now if we assume that the regionals are going to be the same as previously (3-day weekend show for each region) then that would mean 8 players will be playing in each, meaning the selection process would have to select 8 people
as it turns out, CTG is ending late in the version (as usual), that means any kind of interest registration has to happen in the first few weeks of 5.1, meaning it's not possible to run PC:RS, so we have to resort to CTG:SS. last time it happened CTG:SS had a qualification rate of 50% (so for every 2 people in CTG:SS, 1 made it to PC:RS), so if this time it's the same then there will only be 16 players for CTG:SS in each of Pacific and Atlantic (so 16 for Asia, 8 Europe and 8 for America)
TL;DR: chances are slim unless the format gets drastic changes that could allow more people in (maybe 4 single-elim brackets?)
silk kelp
as of right now we're already at the 4th season of the cycle
assuming the cycle...
Thanks so much for the detailed answer.. I never thought of it in this way at all haha
Well I guess I will participate in current CTG just to get 1 (one) point so that it will be 4 points instead of 3
trail dragon
I'm 0 point too
I just give up when I think I couldn't be on leaderboard, so I didn't finish my games
wary silo
Let’s all participate in WC
yeah my theory is that WC will not exist, at least for this S3-equivalent cycle
sturdy coral
ngl wc has to exist
will miss out on alot of good players without wc
ss isnt enough
sturdy coral
give all the wc spots to ss and remove wc
the problem isnt the size
the problem is the format
minor hatch
Thanks so much for the detailed answer.. <:Ayayaka:909710075336208404> I never ...
the problem with that is there are also a lot of ppl with 4 points if they just play all seasons
i forgot invaders cant play ss
sturdy coral
not all good players have the time to grind out 35's for multiple season
sturdy coral
oh wait 17-32 gets 5 point
yeah honestly the top 1 / 2 / 3 score disparity is pretty bad
cus usually they are non native players
sturdy coral
@glass vapor
spice ravine
just borrow some points from NA
pine cliff
~~ how many times can i qualify with my 75 from NA~~
spice ravine
~~for a life time ~~
pine cliff
wintry lintel
੭ ᐕ)੭*⁾⁾
pastel geyser
੭ ᐕ)੭*⁾⁾
plucky roost
¯_(ツ)_/¯
static kernel
Hiii, so I've just joined the server to participate in the tournament and wanted to know how it's basically gonna go?
Like, you start matching for a player and then what happens?
And what do we have to do before/in/after the match?
I also saw in the faq channel that we have to send some commands to a bot? (Or maybe I just read it wrong)
jagged merlin
Hiii, so I've just joined the server to participate in the tournament and wanted...
Go to #preliminary-queue all of the information is in there
static kernel
Go to <#1071009460966936596> all of the information is in there
Thank youuu ❤️
torpid magnet
Good evening ! Is there a scheduled time for when exactly the match is going to start? Or can two players that have been matched decide when are they going to begin ?
For example, since prelims are going to start on September 13, 2pm and will end on Sept 23, 2pm
Can both players decide if they're going to play at September 13, 6pm ?
Or are they going to start at exactly sept 13 2pm ?
wary silo
Good evening ! Is there a scheduled time for when exactly the match is going to ...
prelims is a queue (or rather, queues - there are 2 queuing periods per day); you can play whenever (as long as you don't exceed the match quota)
you just enter the queue
but
the moment you get matched with an opponent, your time begins
from the moment you get put into a match thread, you have 70 minutes to complete a game with your opponent
torpid magnet
oooo oki i see thanks sooo much !
pale dune
Honestly I don’t get how this event is suppose to work? Are we suppose to play tag in discord? Are there any past examples?
wary silo
Honestly I don’t get how this event is suppose to work? Are we suppose to play t...
I was about to answer you but I think Mr. Pillow put up a good short message in the Europe thread
#1072075265330642954 message
-# remember to re-read #🎫register and read #1097076637868236850! just ask if you're still confused
pale dune
I was about to answer you but I think Mr. Pillow put up a good short message in ...
Ohhhh so we use our own cards then
wary silo
yeah for prelims you just do a BO1 with whoever your opponent is with whatever deck you want
Heated Battle Mode instead of a normal BO1 is allowed upon mutual agreement, though I personally would not recommend playing it in the current state of things
kindred terrace
Hello! I have a question, do we have to click "start" to queue for another match if i finished duel with my partner?
jagged merlin
Yes
trail dragon
I forget to register
Well, it's not like I can win, anyway
So it doesn't matter much
sturdy coral
Well, it's not like I can win, anyway
So it doesn't matter much
3 wins
for card back
sturdy coral
I'm not interested, I just use default card back
ping lb players for a match
im sure some could use a lil practice
plucky roost
I forget to register
new card back dude ? go to #📨contact-qixing they can help you sign up
inland jacinth
<:QiqiLurk:906785116540522516>
R E G I S T E R
trail dragon
new card back dude ? go to <#895270346750582796> they can help you sign up
Wait! We can still register even though the miss the deadline?
trail dragon
Wait, another season started?
So you missed the registration too?
plucky roost
yeah
alpine pecan
So you missed the registration too?
Yes, but not entirely unintentionally
Didn't play any tcg match in 3-4 months
alpine pecan
spice ravine
glass vapor
sly briar
stiff anvil
cinder stream
how to contact qixing
wary silo
how to contact qixing
just send a DM to Qixing and you'll get prompted on what to do next
onyx oyster
brave lava
stiff anvil
First, use the Duel Replay function, take a screenshot of the result of the match, and send it to the room you are in, or use the 📨contact-qixing channel, and use line number 9 - Cat's Tail Gathering Inquiry to report. Then, you can wait for the opponent to come back. If they don't, use the /gicancel command to cancel AND report the player. The result of this match will be reflected correctly at the end of the Preliminary Verification Phase and we will make an announcement when it ends~ This does not consume your Match Quota. However, it will do so when the Preliminary Verification Phase has ended, so please regard it as if the match has already happened. You are free to use up the quota, but any matches exceeding the quota will be ignored. Your last match time will be that of the last one that isn't ignored by this mechanism.
stiff anvil
Well that's the best outcome
nova dragon
I am assuming at best they legitimately forgot the double check
Or at worst is a sore loser
stiff anvil
Yeah that happens
nova dragon
Im glad that worked out
silk kelp
If you ping multiple times but your opponent still don't respond, that's probably a sore loser
still phoenix
oh no Binzu is invading AS
who
stiff anvil
And no you should just give them a reasonable time to respond. in case it's an honest mistake.
if they don't, you can just cancel and report them. the game will count after the verification phase.
stiff anvil
because i copy pasted the faq awnser from staff.
oak gorge
lol
stoic lodge
someone help me pls
why i done tcg battle and don't see paimon mess about i complete tcg battle but don't see paimon mess again what should i do ?
toxic thorn
I already got my card back. 🥰
jagged merlin
why i done tcg battle and don't see paimon mess about i complete tcg battle but ...
I dont get what you mean, but you can complaint to #📨contact-qixing
marsh cedar
I already got my card back. 🥰
You know that is Last seasons right
wild fractal
Top 2: losing is not bc of skill diff, just complain about highrolling
umbral lava
Top 2: losing is not bc of skill diff, just complain about highrolling
Complaining about highroll is sometimes valid too though 
shut narwhal
Top 3: You've got the best deck, trust me bro
jagged merlin
Top 1: if you cant beat them, join them
I know someone who did this earlier today
sturdy coral
💨
sudden wing
I am following all those bad advices...
pastel geyser
rematch
half oak
pastel geyser
Hahaha
pastel geyser
not enough time
If there is no time, it will be cancelled.
Read FAQ Q5.
rotund bluff
👍
alpine pecan
subtle shard
stiff anvil
oh boy... one of those
balmy nexus
this is asia server right?
kekw, what is this.
i just lost 2 matches but seeing this makes me feel better that i'm not as miserable as that guy
balmy nexus
god damn it, i got 10 dmg one my neuv 10 hp lol
balmy nexus
but man i'm really hating the armor crab + cyno deck
wintry lintel
Does cream translate cn id every time
fading creek
is this allowed <@209551520008503297>, should i just continue with my match?
You should just qixing hotline this immediately rather than pinging pon about it
trail dragon
Top 1: if you cant beat them, join them
Join what?
foggy loom
Join what?
meta deck ig
silk kelp
Join what?
Crabbing I guess
wintry lintel
😔🐳more fun. This patch not fun
plucky roost
agree
stark crystal
trail dragon
Bring back 🐋 supremacy
jagged merlin
Life is beautiful again without whale 🥰
stark crystal
Is it really?
balmy nexus
man i hate cyno
silk kelp
That’s very normal
Yeah IMHO what's disgusting is when they get artifacts AND Yumkasaurus
sly briar
foggy loom
Yeah IMHO what's disgusting is when they get artifacts AND Yumkasaurus <:kirby:9...
I'm going 0-5 against that deck and everytime their starting hand was perfect
wintry lintel
wary silo
nah this is not The Ting Cup
silk kelp
easy matchups
If the pilot is me, then yes
silk kelp
crab just bad
If the other 7 pilots is like me then that's skill diff ...if the other pilots are good then you're just a good player I think
stark crystal
idk what you all have against it
Crab mirrors
If you could give guide
Apep is such a bad deck
Loses to hsc
Ok maybe that’s an exaggeration
still phoenix
Crab mirrors
Dont play crab
stark crystal
Dont play crab<:QiqiLurk:906785116540522516>
So what deck
still phoenix
Lyney yelan cyno
stark crystal
Lyney yelan cyno<:AyakaHappy:1282581860362354718>
Ok, didn’t play that in ctg yet but I trust the deck
still phoenix
balmy nexus
idk what you all have against it
share how to beat please
stark crystal
Use lyney cyno yelan
balmy nexus
ugh cyno...
bennet without talent (it got stolen) vs crab with armor
all 3 helm sheesh
thorn zephyr
Stay strong!
balmy nexus
and yum saurus stole both my talent cards
jesus fuck
who the fuck decided yum saurus to be a real card
fuck this shit
thorn zephyr
It’s the start of a epic underdog tale! Despite a rocky start I believe lebonarc can win this match 🙌🙌
balmy nexus
i did win it due to him misplaying horribly, but i should have lost that match
wintry lintel
How people lose to crab
wintry lintel
Idk I seldom lose to crab
balmy nexus
i can't overpower their 5 shields per turn
spice ravine
balmy nexus
usually it's 8
silent oasis
share how to beat please
bring wriothesley
opponent will stare instead of strategizing and forget it's their turn
silk kelp
bring wriothesley
opponent will stare instead of strategizing and forget it's th...
This only works if my opponents were some of my friends
tiny dirge
Idk I seldom lose to crab
It’s because you haven’t run into me
wintry lintel
wintry lintel
Kevin will teach you. Runa doesn’t know crab
stark crystal
Kevin will teach you. Runa doesn’t know crab
what deck you use to beat crab
(sorry for ping)
wintry lintel
Yoimiya wrio
tiny dirge
Fake
stark crystal
it feels inconsistent, doesn't it?
stark crystal
bring wriothesley
opponent will stare instead of strategizing and forget it's th...
all praise yoimiya
stark crystal
he would say
tiny dirge
Runa thinks that a ramp deck is less consistent than a bad combo deck
Smh
To each their own
stark crystal
"it's not that crab that is inconsistent , it's the player that is"
stark crystal
do tell me who won
tiny dirge
"it's not that crab that is inconsistent , it's the player that is"
True sadge
wintry lintel
tiny dirge
Bricked cards bricked hand every game kleesob
tiny dirge
🚮
wintry lintel
alpine pecan
sudden wing
Wriomiya is a chef mao raffle
sly briar
teach us crab mirror
you can watch my videos
hearty horizon
you can watch my videos
where！
plucky roost
okay guys i have new idea
~~lets make a lot of alts that we play just to scout and hinder our opponent score instead of using them for match fixing ~~
marsh cedar
Play Crab
stark stratus
srsly everyone is kicking my ass
why is everyone playing better than me
Idk how to get better
and pls don't just tell me to play crab
that's not gonna instantly get me better
balmy nexus
got killed by discounnted wolf gravestone sayu damn
when you threw away a free win because you forgot that opponent heals when you attack them lol
ah well
oh great, crab
minor hatch
when you threw away a free win because you forgot that opponent heals when you a...
i've given away like 4 free wins for dumb mistakes already
balmy nexus
seriously, hate crab so much
great, another person who queue without logging into genshin
crab, yep
balmy nexus
it truly was a mistake to bring aoe into a crab meta
yumsaurus is the most canceroius card i've ever seen
silk kelp
I am playing just for 1 (one) point and for the lulz at this point (I say this every CTG)
Oh and primos + especially cardback too
stark crystal
ok
alpine pecan
onyx oyster
balmy nexus
could have won one more game, but overall, i guess this is fine
lament rock
I was in a battle and my opponent quit of the game halfway. Now how do i conclude the match? My opponent isn't confirming either. :/
onyx oyster
I was in a battle and my opponent quit of the game halfway. Now how do i conclud...
Call him
Or report
silk kelp
I was in a battle and my opponent quit of the game halfway. Now how do i conclud...
I think you should get the win since that counts as conceding and you can contact Qixing for that
lament rock
Hmm, okay :3
lament rock
The process is so slow. No qixing mod contacting me. Edit; They did now
alpine pecan
toxic thorn
You know that is Last seasons right
i have to contact customer support to get this. 🥲
wintry lintel
Who’s maomao
wintry lintel
Ohhhh I remember her cute cute
spice ravine
Ohhhh I remember her cute cute
his wife
sly briar
u not wrong though
spice tinsel
@coarse zinc
do 78% WR is similar performance to 56% WR?
mine 56% WR but matchup with 78% WR
sturdy coral
<@286588686286454786>
do 78% WR is similar performance to 56% WR?
mine 56% WR b...
arent they p much similar?
wary silo
are you being ironic or genuine
sturdy coral
genuine
wary silo
that's like 20%
sturdy coral
yeah thats pretty simillar
alpine pecan
I think it might be because there aren't that many in above 50% pool
wary silo
but 56% and 78% likely means they have both played at least 10 9 matches
sturdy coral
do we really want to say win rate difference of 20% is that meaningful of skill difference in a game of 35 in the wackist meta
alpine pecan
sturdy coral
how similar
bc ko players can lose to them fairly often
sudden wing
Idk, i think meta is kinda fine...
Sometimes boring though
sturdy coral
seems like alot of people who made to ko consistently in the past seem to struggle this ctg for some reason
velvet widget
bc ko players can lose to them fairly often
there's no evidence for this
and I wasn't talking about any meta specifically anyways
the difference of 2 wins in 10 games is kind of big
although I don't have any problems if I get matched into someone with 20% wr higher myself
just saying 78 and 56 aren't similar
alpine pecan
seems like alot of people who made to ko consistently in the past seem to strugg...
And still @spice ravine is in KO, so pro
sudden wing
And still <@572028842475126794> is in KO, so pro <:KokoShock:901319340547252234>
Wait until tomorrow
Everything can change
sturdy coral
in any case, wrt the person inquiring about matchmaking.
the meaningful statistic would involve something like bell curve distribution
not nominal wr comparison
and to add, i also do feel the bot doesnt actually match people with similar skill / win rate
wary silo
and to add, i also do feel the bot doesnt actually match people with similar ski...
isn't this the exact issue we're discussing
sudden wing
and to add, i also do feel the bot doesnt actually match people with similar ski...
I mean, this is not quite possible
wary silo
I mean it's not supposed to match precisely, but 20+% doesn't feel like an acceptable range
sturdy coral
I mean it's not supposed to match precisely, but 20+% doesn't feel like an accep...
personally i would say it's not acceptable if the person is 1+ std wr above you
sudden wing
Idk, if there are 5 people queuing at the moment difference of 20% is acceptable
sturdy coral
Idk, if there are 5 people queuing at the moment difference of 20% is acceptable
yeah i think so too tbh
wary silo
yeah but then that is not clearly communicated and that makes a few things messed up
sudden wing
Probably
wary silo
this is not like a rating system where losing to someone much higher in rating does inconsequential damage to your results
sudden wing
Like it is not completely random
plucky roost
coarse zinc
<@286588686286454786>
do 78% WR is similar performance to 56% WR?
mine 56% WR b...
you also have to account for who is queuing at the same time...
sturdy coral
i dont want to match with people with similar wr as me
plucky roost
ngl the format for CTG kinda has a problem
plucky roost
playing 35 games is too many
sly briar
I think the MM just try to pair you with people who have similar win rate
Then when it doenst work it start to queue you with the people that has the least win rate difference
coarse zinc
ngl the format for CTG kinda has a problem
I mean you cant expet everyone to Q at the exact same time... peepo have lives after all.
sly briar
that’s pretty sure how MM in many games work
considering how there aren’t much ppl playing now
It’s possible
as a last resort
coarse zinc
playing 35 games is too many <:kek:893631000649793547>
pretty sure it was higher in the lower seasons...
silk kelp
pretty sure it was higher in the lower seasons...
Yeah it can reach 100 something and I barely have sleep during that lol
Doesn't make the current format good
coarse zinc
i mean with the 4 hr window for each Q window... you could comfortable reach 10 matches per... tototalling 20 per day...
spice tinsel
you also have to account for who is queuing at the same time...
so the matchmaking is not only about "similar performance"?
coarse zinc
so you could get all your matches done in 2 days...
wary silo
pretty sure it was higher in the lower seasons...
I thought it has always been 35 ever since CTG got out of beta in 2023?
coarse zinc
so the matchmaking is not only about "similar performance"?
i mean yes and no, it matches the nearest to you of course. but say in a pool of 10 and only you and 3 others q in that window... you would be matched with the nearst of those three ( for at least the 2 match cap) then the next nearest.
sly briar
Believe it or not, MM system isn’t stick only to similar performance, it basically has to balance between the queue time and possibility of fair queue
Or else some people could wait 2 hours and still not get a single match
Consider not even many people play CTG
coarse zinc
I thought it has always been 35 ever since CTG got out of beta in 2023?
I think it was the Alpha
wary silo
I think it was the Alpha
yeah I misremembered the name, but the point still stands
35 BO1s feels like a chore
spice tinsel
i mean yes and no, it matches the nearest to you of course. but say in a pool of...
i see
so it's still possible if someone throw 2 matches to specific player since "similar performance" is not contribute much about matchmaking
coarse zinc
yeah I misremembered the name, but the point still stands
nu uh... cuz there was Alpha and before that was the ONLY time i ever play in the CTG... CBT
wary silo
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
wary silo
anyways forgive me for not knowing the whole thing
but yeah
the biggest gripe for people right now is that
- casuals are not motivated (they dip as soon as they get 3 wins)
- top players are frustrated (because 99% of the time you have to play all 35 matches to even feel somewhat safe on the leaderboards)
- no part of the matchmaking algorithm is public so we're here speculating everything because it feels super odd
spice ravine
And still <@572028842475126794> is in KO, so pro <:KokoShock:901319340547252234>
im going out this time
wary silo
~~tbf its hell for someone to invade 3 servers~~
we don't even have a clear framework to work around invaders
they keep on burning points, despite the fact that they do make for better queues for top players
plucky roost
invaders have to put in more effort to pull it off so yeah
wary silo
BO3 is not gonna be great for casuals
plucky roost
more skill base
wary silo
keep in mind that as much as this is a tournament with a clear pathway to the top, casuals are incentivized to play as well
wary silo
u can change format to 1 win for cardback
it's not about total number of matches, it's about time per match
spice ravine
if it's 10 games
u can give more time
plucky roost
me too
sturdy coral
😭
plucky roost
alpine pecan
im going out this time
Lies
sturdy coral
iwant them to install leaderboard in the game
alpine pecan
plucky roost
still have games to play b4 reaching 35
wary silo
iwant them to install leaderboard in the game
Suggestions Box pls
sturdy coral
spice ravine
Lies
no way im sitting there with 11 loses
time didn't allow me to play well this time
alpine pecan
coarse zinc
it's not about total number of matches, it's about time per match
i mean the average this season is around 20-25mins
i really depends on the decks each player uses...
coarse zinc
two stall decks are gonna take longer then two skill based decks...
spice ravine
to do their moves
sudden wing
Crab mirror 10 rounds)...
sudden wing
And they beat each other for 5 turna
coarse zinc
yeah some cards are just bjork
sudden wing
can take 1 mins per tune
How many time do you get added after uou tune 1 card
Yeah
Each round +1 min
For 1st tuned card
xDDDDDdD:)))
coarse zinc
in game needs a specific ban card system... ex. each play can chose say 1 char card and three others that neither player can use.
sudden wing
Wait wtf
coarse zinc
the only game ive seen do at least the same as the physical verison is the yugioh series.
spice ravine
coarse zinc
and that was only select titles.
spice ravine
we need more variety in format for real
coarse zinc
talk with your manager
sly briar
wary silo
<:Wheeze:1038000292303749120>
sudden wing
i wonder if it helps
silk kelp
i mean with the 4 hr window for each Q window... you could comfortable reach 10 ...
.....I can barely find players on NA morning queue also 20 matches per day is not good for mental health
coarse zinc
.....I can barely find players on NA morning queue also 20 matches per day is no...
i just mean as an example
spice ravine
doing jobs 9-5 that we don't like is also not good for mental health
coarse zinc
you have 10 days to do 35 matches
sudden wing
in game needs a specific ban card system... ex. each play can chose say 1 char c...
We need even longer games yeeeeah
silk kelp
doing jobs 9-5 that we don't like is also not good for mental health
You're right, it's even much worse than TCG
spice ravine
i even hate my part time job
thinking of ditching it
for Tcg
bcz queue time
collides with it
silk kelp
you have 10 days to do 35 matches
Well tbh the limit becoming 10 days instead of 7 days like in the past is a good thing 
silent oasis
it's great we get more time to play our matches, but it also kinda makes finding someone close or equal to your performance harder
sturdy coral
i would like 2 weeks to do my 35 matches
subtle shard
the biggest gripe for people right now is that
- casuals are not motivated (they...
dont forget top 16 format
wary silo
yeah that too (though I was mostly talking about prelims there)
open moon
<@769708075383783457> beg boolie
