#[Asia Server] Discussions
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saying that from experience
idk i already contacted qixing
and they said they are ok with it

surely it wont affect me qualifying
even if u report urself they'll thank u for honesty
but there's no work around the strike
even if they say ok
ull still get it
i gurantee.u
ok ill just get 5-0 tonight
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not able to qualify bcz u accidentally inputted wrong results and than corrected it later
is gonna be the most deadge thing

Of course out of all the matches this is the one I confirmed too fast 
i think strikes should be given if opponent reports wrong and there's no follow up
but if they report themselves
than this is dumb
strike for negligence
hmm
Ideally then yeah

this is for current season
lmao
this might cause frustrations to new players who put in results incorrectly for the first time in their competitive career though
btw do all strikes reset after each CTG or
Or be like me, playing ctg for 2 seasons already and never having this happened
Until this season, when I actually might qualify lol
Still pretty hard though
so I was thinking
if it is true that all strikes are cleared between CTG iterations
we can pull a YouTube Partner Program
Pretty sure, otherwise that doesn't make sense
yea this is correct
but we do have history
strikes aren't rly meant to be super punishing but more of a nudge/warn of what to do 
basically my proposal is: 1 warning for lifetime (or probably reset every full circuit?), and 3 strikes but only 1 strike is cleared every CTG iteration
Feel like it's better that both people have to declare Win/Lose rather than 1 declaring and the other confirming
Right now the person not declaring only has 1 button to click, and after that there's no return
so basically 2-step confirmation?
like both put in their results and both confirm those?
The reporting person does have 2-step confirmation, 1 while selecting Win/Lose and 1 while pressing the Confirm button. While the other person only has 1 chance.
we had a system similar to the one you're suggesting actually, unfortunately the person who did the /giconclude would end up forgetting the 2nd step to confirm and thus might leave the round to time-out; meaning it'd be more work to do for prelim verifying 
we also had a system where we would require players to submit screenshots of their final move during conclusion, but with match replay, that ended up being unnecessary
actually I have this one question that I'm still wondering about all the time
is it true that match results are only cross-checked with HoYoverse servers after prelims?
because otherwise we could have had an automated preliminary result check in the background
i don't run the bot personally so that'll be something i can ask the organizers about
but for the most part, the matches that are cancelled or are reported to us via qixing are our main priority to adjust
it's a lot of reports to deal with frankly speaking, so we do need a few days after prelims is over to go through it all
by the way, about this part: I think it would be fine to have a periodical reminder ping to players
I know this is a bit on the annoying side, but this is probably important enough to deserve a nag
In my mind, if both people need to declare Win/Lose, then we don't really need the Confirm button, since the confirmation is the other person declaring. If there is a conflict (both W or both L), the room gets 1 chance to do that again. If there is still a conflict after 2nd chance then whoever declares it wrong get a strike during verification. If there is no conflict but both declare wrong then both get a strike during verification.
Personally I feel that the Confirm button is way easier to mess up than having to declare Win/Lose, since the latter is more work.
But of course, either way, the main thing is that both people getting a strike for an honest mistake that both report immediately is kinda harsh imo
for sures, i can see why
ill compile this feedback for the TOs to look at and see what we can do to improve the experience a bit, thanks for the info 
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it
for transparency btw, for the match where you/your opponent didn't submit the correct result, you both may get a strike just so we can be consistent with our policies and other judgements we've made
as i mentioned, strikes do get reset at the end of the season so i wouldn't be too worried about it
and we'll see what we can do with your feedback in the meantime
thank you for making it clear, I think it really helps remove the confusion
im glad 
i love to be more upfront with how we work internally, but due to how busy i get irl and for privacy reasons, there's not often many chances to do so
will continue to try to do my best tho 
well, transparency definitely helps so more of that without breaching privacy is always appreciated, I'd say
also not quite strikes-related but since you are here: is it written anywhere how the matchmaking system actually works? it's probably one of the most enigmatic things around here (though for what it's worth, it works)
Yeah no problem, I understand. But I probably have to be "worried" though, since both me and my opponent in that match are competing for the knockout, and there is the annual tournament scoring system this time, so this is kinda a big deal. For the previous seasons where my scores were not even close to qualifying then it doesn't matter haha
But yeah, maintaining consistency is more important. Ideally there is a policy change affecting everyone even from this season, but it's fine either way
Again, really appreciate your time chatting with us!
this is ideally the way things should work for a better UX, ty for the suggestion! I'll try to gauge some data to back this suggestion and discuss it further with HYV to see if they can support it 
whats ur score :yaethunk:
22-8 rn
so yeah, still really hard but not impossible
considering I was 14-8 yesterday lmao
but tbh, even without the strike, it's very likely that I won't qualify
wow lol
somehow i lose more against easier opponents
probably not lol, if it were you I would realize right away
I think Glasse is the only one I got matched with that I recognize
a few warnings are sent at the start of every prelim round and one says like "reflect the result correctly," while the confirmation states who wins and who loses right above the Confirm button... yet some players still miss them 
regardless, some changes to make sure the win/lose information is highlighted enough to read have been made, feel free to experience it 
We all are
Hello turboblaze
I hope you didn't forget me haha

god I hate mona decks even more now

I wish everyone except mona players a good day
using pyro and dendro but only got hydro dices be liked: 
i completely forgot to play ๐
theres still time
queuing
are u sure u don't wanna run away from me
@shrewd coyote regarding what happened in #1145598770680172604
have you sent in a report to Qixing Hotline?
Yes, it's still in process
that should be enough then
ok
your match will be recorded after verification and your opponent will get 1 strike
its 2
they change
oke thanks

just in?
yeah i heard someone got 2 strike for that
but why only a warning? they are very annoying because after the match they don't confirm the results of the match so I waited a very long time, I hope players like that are banned.
1 cuz of troubling the mods the other is for troubling opponent
I hope for the next tournament. if something like that happens, the player is expected to be immediately banned from the tournament.
they could have forgotten (I can't be sure if they played all their matches or not because if they did then that could happen), but rest assured that players that show such behavior repeatedly will be banned
Oh I see.
is bm allowed?
dw i believe you can still qualify
what kind of BM ?
yuck
Showdown will be like that, trust
played 10 games today...lost 9

no more leaderboard now
Seeing the rewards, 60 primo if I get another win? I'm losing interest
Guess 9-13 is where I stop
60 primo = 1 daily
why give up

btw for those who were here earlier but didn't play in the queue that had just ended, the text that shows who wins and who loses is BIGGER now
whoops one sec

But yeah, this bigger text confused me on mobile
I was used to seeing that winners name is first
But now it was in new line

I hope they nerf thunder batman and hat guy. Literally all my matched opponents used those decks. 
15-19 ๐
meta at work, I'd say
Omg you have worse winrate than me ๐
Of course not, I just didnโt get matched with you lol
Is there any way to know total no of participants in the tournament?
Try to create an account and lose one game at the last moment

old one with 1 win
AS is like half the tournament
Ah ty
How many primos do you get if you play all the matches?
depends on your wins
yeah the morning queue's tend to queue you with the same people again and again ๐ญ
fwiw knockouts is not BO1
but really though with the limited allocation of 8hrs/day (effectively 4hrs/day for most people) it would be impossible to bring prelims matches to BO3 without reducing the number of matches
not to mention it will be painful to manage and verify
im not saying prelims shld be bo3, im saying this prelim system where u play 35 games of bo1 is not it
Someone helps me pls
Wow, u really need to check people using the right commands.
I won but my opponent concluded I lost so I had to cancel it and use the command again
Makes sense i didnt play this ctg much
How many Times have you entred?


Pls add bans and bo5 to ko
Open decklistw while youre at it
and i woke up too late missed the rest of the matches huhu


imagine having conquest format for CTG
actually we can have it for finals since it has to be streamed anyway
you know what
do not forget to fill in the post-season survey
what

these pro ppl ganyuhing me
i dont like this

How many wins do we need to qualify for knockout rounds? Is it for top 16 players only?
yes me thinks
yeah top 16
so its 28 wins
for asia
Then my next question when im going to get the card back ๐ฆ
last time the cardback took month to deliver, lets hope its faster now
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I see โฆ now I can chill Iโm out anyway ๐ฆ
I think the reason it took that long to deliver was because custom cardbacks had to be implemented (hence why it took until 2023 S5 to deliver even though it was first announced in 2023 S3)
bombed my last queue ๐ 1-4



where is the link?
should be posted in #tournament-updates shortly after the season finals
I didn't get a strike 
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Self slander 

dio san hello !!!
long time no see!
how are you?
good! just got back into the game recently, have no idea how to play anymore ๐ญ
Welcome back, and this game has changed a lot.๐ญ
4.3 very fun, a lot of things that is almost unthinkable back then
like making dice out of thin air ๐คฃ
Hoping for some nerfs about this case 
why looks so cool
heaven gave me two things
What is that two things?
hello fizzy :kleesis:
Hiiii fuwaa

GITCG & handsome talent

sea believer :poggies:
im icedtea believer
can you share some to talentless? 
... oh right I'm pretty sure you can't send Discord invites in here
yes...
@pine cliff gg
this deck
higrolls
better than finaly
u have more targets for lyre so magic more consistent
trust


Nahida Dori is better than Finaly..? 
I feel like I will lose purely because of your skill is better than mine 
stand proud
@worthy jacinth congrats on getting into finals 
It is just lucky
i fought u once, u are strong so i dont think its purely luck :o
waiting for stream
When will the stream begin?
no idea, we will wait
#tournament-updates message
@karmic marsh
oh cool
https://www.youtube.com/live/EMtfN-dTvUA?si=VO04EQ07PVe9inkN
Ratings Cup ver.4.3

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Ratings cup?
There's a rating in gitcg?

Yes BO3 Ratings

just curious, how many players on point lb will be invited by serious showdown?
top24?
should be top 24 yeah
and then 8 more from wild card to create a 32 person tournament 
im pretty sure 20 points is safe, 21 points is definitely safe but 21 is impossible
How many seasons is there before showdown?
afaik 2 seasons
Then 15 points is safe
theres a world where
Oh yes
the top 4 is different in s1 and s2
I miss that10+10
and then places 9-16 are the exact same in s1 and s2
and then there will be 24 people with over 15 points

Suddenly realized that after this
why doesnt asia have a person with 40 points ๐ค
Need another TOP32 to be 100percent safe
maybe he click no interest in prince cup?
actually asia miss 2 on lb
actually here's a fun question
where are the Asia Invitational participants
fwiw I see Maetel and Banapp in the top 24
but where are the other 10
maybe concentrated on preparing their games
the problem though, I'd say, is that it's kinda unfair in a way
basically one CTG season was taken away from them and the Asia Invitational does not give them circuit points
so they are at a major disadvantage
Wtf I can't even see myself in the serious showdown list while I placed 21 in AS
- there are 16 people who tie for 5 points
- we don't even know what the tiebreaking procedure is
I think it's simple. Have enough seasons that there are not that many ties in top 24
except the first T2 event is, like, a single CTG away
๐ค
FYI: Primos are out (cardback when)
we back
Is Cat's Tail Gathering 2024 S1 GI TCG Tournament rewards out? ๐ค
(The card back and primogems ๐)
primos are out (check my screenshot above, or your own mailbox)
card backs are not out yet
is the card back for s2 a different one from s1?
yes
- S1 card back is The Chasm: Solid Iron #tournament-updates message
- S2 card back is The Chasm: Blue Crystal #tournament-updates message
Wait I actually donโt understand how does this event work. I register a month ago and didnโt know what to do๐ญ
that would mean that you signed up for 2024 S1... and unfortunately missed it 
yeah I really think there should be a form for prelims start
anyways you will need to fill in the form again
because it's a new event now
Oh I see, no wonder itโs all quiet now huhu
Does anyone use Twitter here
serious showdown is the new qualifiers for the prince cup
they added another tier in tournament hierarchy between CTG and prince cup
that is the serious showdown
I see
prince cup seems way easier then ctg and the proposed ss

when do we get last seasons card backl?
When does the preliminary for S2 start?
I'll report this to the RNG police
next week
lmao 
Thanks! 
19 Feb


Quagsire is a good counter on Surging Strikes
dont worry i wont hurt u

What are the meta decks?

Someone suggest me a fairly decent and quick deck, so that I can play all 35 matches at least

Stopped at 22 last time
Mona station signora and farm the yelan players trust
Thunder ManifeSTATION
Thanks 
So that's called station... Ok, the deck seems worth a try


Same here 
if only the deck kindda ๐ฎ after tm nerf
Hi this is the first time i registered? is there anything i have to do meanwhile?
and tbh idk how it works so do i like wait for the organiser to make the tourney sheet or is there anything i have to do rn
You don't need to do anything now
The tourney starts on Monday
You get to play 5 games each day
#preliminary-queue message
This is the standard time slot depending on your region if it doesn't get changed this time
Oh tysm and also are there anyways to confirm that I have registered? Surely I have but just to make sure
#๐ซregister message
You can just see your entered information here
Ohh tysmmm

Since when? 
M A T H
Last time I checked it was still not defined
wut
my school teach me that



Even my python program shouts at me when I divide any number with zero "That's not defined you dumb fellow" 

i just ask my smartest M A T H fren
he says its between undefined or unlimited



With my draw luck recently im definitely going to get cooked
Can relate 



@glass vapor I know this is awkward to ask, but usually when are feedback form responses read? I submitted the form quite late (today actually) and considering some of my suggestions have to do with the bot I'm not sure if the suggestions will be read in time for any adjustments

no question is awk with me
i personally don't have access to the form itself but the TOs and community managers do on occasion check-a-look to see the general sentiment of the tourney thus far and along with any feedback y'all have
I don't think adjustments will be made for this season
At least, I wouldn't expect to fill out the form and have them change things right away, even if it's good feedback
But it's still valuable to tell them what's on your mind, they can always use it to better the tournament next time
Guys when is the tournament timings for Asia - Has it started?
About 10 hours from now
Thanks!
Beijing time 19:00-23:00
Thank you! 
What should we do in preliminary phase
Like just keep playing coop mode or smt else
Based on the time shown here
You play against other players through coop mode, after searching for a match you'll be provided with their uid. They might also send you a request to join instead. Remember to stay in the tavern to quickly get into the match!
#preliminary-queue message
You can start searching after the time starts like zen'in said
You queque and you'll find an opponent and you'll be pinged in a private thread where you can see your opponent info and then play with them
And report result for win/loss
Report where
In the private thread
Ah ok
Don't worry, usually your opponent will report the result when you're new, all you have to do is confirm if it is correct
After you see the layout it'll be pretty intuitive to do it yourself
Opponent will only do if they win
Yeah you'll understand once you get in the room so there won't be much of a problem
Wasn't it a dropdown list 
Yeah you'll need to confirm when you lose
Ah well maybe im misremembering
But opponent doesn't do the /giconclude command most of the time when they lose
Understandable ig
But the result confirmation is no big deal
You'll know it once you are in the thread
I've faced opponents that are fast af with it 
Pros at declaring wins
Zen'in-san how'd you do in the last tournament?
Wait is negative score possible
nope
Only in the very first CTG 
GLHF folks
I still have other matters to tend to but I'll see you guys later today
what
6 minutes is too much for the speed runners

7*
Jokes aside, good luck for who's playing now, I'm still working 
me soon

it did 1hour ago
first time here ez plz

they already goes hard since the first tournament so

first player that play ls defeated
so how to counter lyner overburn?
pull out their internet cable

play dhydro ning deck
dude
also hi Ark
whts a 50% decks?
maybe u may never see doubleanemo stall
oh i did
the Lynette duoble anemo
yeah that
wait those wins againts Lyney?
if they stall well then it could win
thats because most ppl dont play it now
in this patch

well just use this veteran visage now
on danemo stall
kinda annoying since effect always works even if got forceswap or get hit while not active char
also sunyata exists and sometimes they use dat
tips for new players
try to play in the weekend
play rn is just being food for pro players

well at least just avoid first day
let the pros eat each other



Hit them with what they expect least
Got 2-3 today 

But somehow I got 4-1 on EU
Only lose against highroll MEW
no way Asian mode
I wish I could play like that
Too pro
Yes
You can use same deck for all 35 matches even
But if the deck you're using is losing too much, I suggest changing it

Queue now for free win


you cant bait me
At least I'll try to win, but I'm sure I can't

Ok, matched
knew it
A S I A N
N A I S A

ah OK
I've watched Asia Invitational long enough to tell you that unless you want to w-key this thing you always go Nahida first
and possibly sac her as well
I see
Fair enough then
Time for match 2 with improved wisdom

Or will I even use finaly? Idk. Figure out by matching with me

Matching slow
Is it out of players already?
Still an hour left in queue, come on

1-1
I fought furina
Just play 5 matches and copy the most encountered deck 
Jk. Idk, wait till someone that know tells

But I see this approach being used
By the end, everyone uses same deck

that's what we call "meta"
but the limit is 5 every day, i want to play max 35 at the end

nope you can stack
i
you can play 6-8 games a day

in one queue time
bro who told me the wrong info
2 more to go
forget it and move on I guess
quick reminder that Asia Invitational invitees couldn't get to top 16 back in S1 all because of the invitational itself so don't be surprised if they cooked hard this time
Aww
I regret I didnt finish all 35 games during that
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nah that's lazy diff

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why am i not getting any match? is everyone done already? 
Good luck, still 12 min to go
Reminder for new players: it's valid as long as match is found before limit. You can play even after that
yep if you are still in the queue and it's past the time, do not go anywhere
i forgot prelims starts today and by the time i realized it's 20 mins til limit
Oh, yeah, as long as you queue before limit *
i see
And remaining matches get carried over to tomorrow
ayy i got a match
Oh god, it's a lyney deck
well...
any way to forfeit? im actually tired of seeing rainbow dice
Forfeiting gives you strike
So no
garbage rule
Yeah...
like ik im gonna lose

what's the point of being fodder
also queue says there's an hour left but i can't queue?
is that a typo?
It says?
yea when i try to queue up
nope
if it is clear that you can't do anything else, you can do that and hope you don't get a strike (usually you will, but in some cases a strike was not given)
not worth a strike
I know, but apparently the CTG team is really wary of possible match-fixing scenarios
i mean im not going to forfeit if it's going to give me a strike
i think im gonna pass on playing for the rest of the season
last season same thing
even to the point that as of now if your match ends up in a draw (happens when there's no winner after round 14) then you are forced to play again or skip the match
@serene frigate actually here's just a small advice from me: if you're tired of #DiceOfCringe, try using dice-fixing cards
basically cards that can turn your dice into more usable dice
thanks but no thanks
i've used gilded, tossup, opera and tuned
but the problem is when i start drawing garbage on top of that
i think it's best that i don't play this anymore

usually when you always lose to bad dice it's a deck issue yeah
could also just be being too reluctant to adapt your lines
or bad mulligan
ig
just doing my duty

@weary pendant i've been told you're in possession of the best LS decklist everโข๏ธ
could you share it with me? :kleesis:
ayawah who told you
Maybe he watched the na ctg champ himself play 
im new to tcg...
He who makes a living out of tcg xD
Fairytales
woah welcome to the world of gitcg
Ye if you want deck advice I gotchu play WIN
huh i didnt tell you, you must be mistaken me with someone else, im a new player also
i watched Yugioh so i believe in the heart of the cards
powa of friendship
with them i cant lose

welcome to tcg then :kleesis:
Any knows the average number of wins needed to get into finals
27-8 is the cutoff
sometimes 26-9 can get in kos if u r lucky
80% winrate should be enough
Wow, so many new players. I'm also new here, nice to meet you 
So many people above who would defeat me easily in random matchmaking & tournaments saying they're newbies... 
That sucks.. hopefully you will get opponents on your level next time
You too! And Thanks! 
how can i even do against double geo or hydro stalling

i played 13 matches for those

HOW
you don't just randomly get 6 eggs?
wouldn't be surprised if the deck ends up having Qiqi in it tbh
1 egg + 2 cube and use 3 talent
Almost lost because run out of dice
Fortunately I could generate 4 dice through boar princess gilded and other artifact
wait is that in a CTG game ?
Yes
I think its time to giveaway free win
Hey, what happen if my enemy is afk?
I am already win, but hey dont confirm the result
And he also afk and surend in the game
If he conceded that still means you win, they may get a strike for it too
If he won't confirm after a ping you should contact the Qixing I think
got the card back I dip as usual
So many pro player at this hour 
Can anyone confirm if everyone who qualified for this card back has got it or not? I am sure I did but I didn't get one.. Only got the primogem reward..
how to get this card back?
that cardback is the prince cup exclusive one
Yes
you need to qualify to prince cup to get it
I did
which prince cup did you attend?
Didn't we need just three wins to qualify for this card back last season?
I see I see
this one is called cats tail gathering
prince cup is this one https://twitter.com/AstraCarnival/status/1705498629057003892
Alright..
Thank you for clarifying..
I got a little confused here when I saw two people back to back with this back
fyi that cardback is possibly one of the rarest genshin impact item you can get since only 24 players have it in asia server
Those 24 are pretty good players then.. Good for them!
for last season cardback... no they havent distributed it yet
last time it took them a few month to distribute i think
but it should be faster now
I see.. This was the confusion.. I thought this one was last season's reward
Thank you for the clarification

Guess who won 

did they win? my bets on double hydro still
i lost to chongyun, shenhe, shogun deck twice in a row
they won, they ahve dices and almost ult

imagine has egg too
Yes they won, after 10 painful rounds 
I lost because I had no cards

this double hydro stuff is cancer
you need to draw better and roll better
friggin yikes
Yes they used egg later too 
I'll make sure my future opponents feel the same pain


I wish that ls player good rolls and cards and keep taking the game till r15
You are doing great, keep up the good work
I lost at r10 cuz I had no more cards 
Did manage to get barb to 1 hp but then she burst after using egg 
today I learned that lyney can kill u in first turn
ok can someone explain to me what's happening here
Wow, you killed your opponent first turn using lyney?
nope
it's the other way around
2 wins 5 losses 
good luck both of us mate
I'm lazy to play today
it seems that we desperately need it
Not lazy, but someone got me interested in coding project, so will be doing that

Have fun whoever is playing


o.O
Btw Can i only play 5 rounds per game
Maybe I'll do it too

Definitely not with ls 
no i mean can it stack
so like if i didnt play tdy can i play tmr for like 10
Yes
Good luck may we not face each other 
wait can a mod confirm that?








