[Europe Server] Discussions

[echo fossil]

I refuse to believe that literally everybody is dead

is this because I didn't use my quota earlier

I don't seem to possess any strikes that'd prevent me from queueing fast

to my knowledge at least

nope

[teal sparrow]

Yeah everyone must just be busy or asleep

[echo fossil]

oh

that explains it

bruh

[teal sparrow]

That's a straight lie dw about it

This is my 3rd season playing and the amount of times I've been 5-6th on the bracket and played against people with only 4 wins is insane

[echo fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner2049-ryan-gosling-gif-24048514

[plain panther]

Checking leaderboard, it looks like not players playing now, most still have 10 exp

[echo fossil]

again

[plain panther]

[echo fossil]

can I maybe contact the mods about the issue idk

it's not fun to wait 30 minutes between the games

[teal sparrow]

Idk how much the mods can do about it

If no ones playing then no ones playing

[plain panther]

Only 5 of 16 on leaderboard currently play today

[echo fossil]

people do play tho, i'm watching a friend play the second game at this point all while I'm still in a queue

[teal sparrow]

Oh. Idk then

[echo fossil]

oh, great

time to lose

[teal sparrow]

Goodluck

[blazing gull]

Well that happened to me yesterday

[echo fossil]

I won wtf

[blazing gull]

Hahahq

[mild birch]

Wth is that leaderboard

75% win rate for #1 ranker

[blazing gull]

Well right now mine is 50%win rate

[teal sparrow]

I mean 10-5 is more like 66.66% win rate

[teal sparrow]

Expected tbh

[echo fossil]

[teal sparrow]

I'm sitting at 75% winrate tho

[echo fossil]

3-0

[teal sparrow]

100% winrate less go

[echo fossil]

so good

can't wait to get matched against every other leaderboard player 🔥

[teal sparrow]

Just queue into me trust

[echo fossil]

I do 😭

oh wait u're imitating me

[teal sparrow]

I'm not a leaderboard player

[echo fossil]

but i'm not good fr

I went 19-16 last tournament

although I played rnx

can't necessarily say it was the best choice at that time

but it worked, somewhat

[teal sparrow]

RXN is just old FiNaLy

It works

[echo fossil]

I still prefer it to finaly

dunno why

just personal quirk of mine

[mild birch]

Im sure rxn can beat finaly

[echo fossil]

it can yes

[mild birch]

Like toe to toe

[teal sparrow]

Depends on the player

[echo fossil]

but if ur mulligan is bad and u can't funnel energy to xl it's over

[mild birch]

The good thing about rxn is

You have more avenues if you duce cringe r1

[teal sparrow]

So far in that matchup I have a pos wr with FiNaLy but I've lost a few to good players

[mild birch]

Go for raiden burst line

[echo fossil]

sometimes u cant afford starting from raiden tho

like

finaly will beat the shit ouf of u with all those overloads

[teal sparrow]

I was trynna find it now but my score from last season was 210

[echo fossil]

while u're trying to burst

[leaden basalt]

Wanna match with me?

[mild birch]

Overload line is cope

Even if it disrupts

[teal sparrow]

No booli

[echo fossil]

oh i was queueing

i forgot

lmao

it's so slow

[teal sparrow]

I feel like FiNaLy can abuse Gilded more tho

[echo fossil]

i dont run gilded in rxn

[leaden basalt]

Who booli, me booli? Im an angel

[mild birch]

In what ways?

[teal sparrow]

Seems like free realestate tho

[teal sparrow]

FiNaLy has more front loaded damage and you can proactively trigger overload, burning, quicken and then again at EOT to draw 2 from gilded.

In RXN your damage is more back loaded in summons and you can only reliably trigger reactions with Nahida since both Xiangling and Raiden's skills do no initial damage.

That makes Nahida the only viable Gilded target where in FiNaLy all 3 characters are valid to put it on

[mild birch]

I see

Yeah that’s a good point

[teal sparrow]

Because of skills doing damage you can also Gilded, draw 2, Lyresong to draw another 2.

All assuming you have the dice

RXN mostly goes for the Nahida OTK line but FiNaLy is sorta even pressure all round

[echo fossil]

actually going 5-0

[plain panther]

Most players still haven't played today
Queue is so dead

[plain panther]

😮 OP
I don't want to queue and get matched with you now

[mild birch]

Is clinsen pro?

[plain panther]

5-0 is pro

I wanna play against players with 0-5

[mild birch]

Ayu pro

9/10 goodge

[plain panther]

So, Raiden skill, normal attack and then burst on the next round?

[leaden basalt]

Me too :3

[plain panther]

Just lucky

[blazing gull]

I play at night cause in the morning I have to do some stuffs

[echo fossil]

4-0 against finaly so far

6-0 overall

bruh

so many people playing finaly

[blazing gull]

It's a good deck

[echo fossil]

almost makes me want to pick the liyue friends deck into it more

[blazing gull]

I played some matches with that

[echo fossil]

but i guess it doesn't matter so far as long as i'm winning

[blazing gull]

Yeah

Finaly is played because of the high win rate of the Deck

[teal sparrow]

Clinsen 10-0 confirmed

[mild birch]

Yeah

[blazing gull]

Basically that's what almost everyone who uses Raiden do

Unless you play Raiden for the summon

[blazing gull]

Who doesn't?

[mild birch]

In rxn youd do raiden for summon

The context was if you dice cringe in rxn

[blazing gull]

I have some decks where Raiden is only there for summon and tank all the damage

[blazing gull]

Rxn?

[mild birch]

Raiden nahida xiangling

[blazing gull]

Thanks

I hate that deck

[plain panther]

What if we can't even use raiden's skill?

[echo fossil]

if ur dice is beyond cringe u try ur hardest to make ur raiden ult next turn

but it's omegacope most of the time

[plain panther]

Just NA twice?

[echo fossil]

y

i mean there's not much u can do better

if u cant afford to burn cards and stuff

another leaderboard person

and it's another account transfer

how many actual europeans play in eu preliminaries? LOL

[plain panther]

[mild birch]

Then raiden 2 na

[viscid wadi]

i am EU garbage player willing to be CN player in soul

i am playing for cardback

see from my nickname

[teal sparrow]

Like 30 maybe

[blazing gull]

Yes

[blazing gull]

I was playing for cardback now I'm playing to have a 50%win rate or higher lmao

[teal sparrow]

I have a feeling EU is the most invaded region because of time zones lining up

[blazing gull]

EU got the worst time to play

[plain panther]

Yet the score is 10-2

[blazing gull]

I mean USA

[blazing gull]

Mine is 4-4

[teal sparrow]

I'm on 6-2 rn

I just wanna end on the lb

[blazing gull]

Right now top players have an average rate of 75

[blazing gull]

If you can keep that rate you will be for sure

[teal sparrow]

I was last season but this season I'm just chilling and taking it slow

[blazing gull]

This is my first time

[teal sparrow]

I wanna get into serious Showdown but if I don't I don't

[blazing gull]

How many get to play the next phase?

[teal sparrow]

Top 16 for KO and idk for serious

[echo fossil]

there goes my first loss

had to get unlucky at some point

[teal sparrow]

You still have a good score tho so dw

[echo fossil]

well i wasnt aiming for the leaderboard to begin with so yeah i'm quite ok with that

[oak nexus]

Top24 of cross season leaderboard for serious showdown

[blazing gull]

Well first loss in the third day is pretty good

[teal sparrow]

Cross season?

[oak nexus]

I mean this one #cats-tail-leaderboard

[teal sparrow]

Ohh I misunderstood

You meant it counts seasons 1 and 2

[native forge]

for CN players it's 3-7pm or 2-6am

Work time or sleep time

[plain panther]

Still really good

[echo fossil]

layla pfps are the most sweaty

fun fact

I literally play

10th game

for today

this is my 7th time

encountering finaly

[teal sparrow]

FiNaLy be popular during morning queue it seems

[teal sparrow]

I mean that's still a few hours after work and some don't work. EU is work time in the morning or late night

[echo fossil]

so far

7th finaly

not a single time lost to it

[tough dock]

what you using?

[echo fossil]

good question

if i had at least 3 losses i wouldn't mind telling

but i wanna keep the good score grind at this point

[leaden basalt]

Im pretty sure I know~

[echo fossil]

wrong

[tough dock]

okii, i have a deck that beats Finaly but it gets owned by any sort of stall

[echo fossil]

(most-likely)

[echo fossil]

haven't encountered stall yet

surprisingly

[tough dock]

I probz know what it is

[echo fossil]

the only deck i lost to was a yelan manifestation signora deck

and they literally just had perfect cards in hand

not much i could do

bruh

how am i there already

[tough dock]

wow you did good, I still havent played a match yet. I don't feel ready

[echo fossil]

i can share a deck with u if u pledge not queueing into me lmao

somehow

idk

[tough dock]

dm me

[echo fossil]

lemme finish the game quickly and i will

dm me preventively so i dont forget

literally lost the game to a cryo cube because i forgot how its ult works

bruh

think of a more dumb way to lose

[viscid wadi]

I am consistent idiot

Going 4-1 every day

I can't play early weeks good (5-0)

[echo fossil]

and another finaly to close things off

can i go 8-0

[fringe estuary]

10-0 soon

[echo fossil]

nah i already lost twice

[plain panther]

Finaly magnet

[echo fossil]

it's just my streak against finaly is flawless so far

[viscid wadi]

Today (surprisingly 1 finaly)

Yesterday 2

And in mondat there were 3

Xd:)

Regression

Lost to finaly day 2 in mirrors

The day i abadoned FiNaLy

[teal sparrow]

I should just queue Liyue fr

[teal sparrow]

Literally me fr fr

I always forget how this things dumb Ult works

[blazing gull]

Usually morning

[echo fossil]

nope

streak broken

f

[unique nexus]

can't find any more opponent
only play 2 games today

[blazing gull]

Already ended

Until afternoon

[unique nexus]

yeah

[teal sparrow]

1 more loss and we get the sauce right?

[echo fossil]

it's just usual keqing overload deck with azhdaha lol

although with timeus and golden house

[blazing gull]

I like to use overload but hate when I have to face it

[plain panther]

[teal sparrow]

Bennett, Keqing, Azdaha??

[echo fossil]

i also played 2 games of liyue friends w/ lithic spear and hu tao

[teal sparrow]

Bruh

[echo fossil]

[teal sparrow]

I queued into anti-FiNaLy yesterday

[blazing gull]

If you get to combo on that then you wiped your enemys really fast

[echo fossil]

dunno why i had to specify the characters when there's only one such type of deck

[teal sparrow]

Signora, Sea horse, Cryo Cube

[blazing gull]

Well I won agaings finally using stall

Don't know how but still manage to win and with pretty good Healthy characters

[supple otter]

Wym how

[teal sparrow]

If I'm not coping then Stall > Aggro > Combo

[supple otter]

Stall beats finaly already

??

[blazing gull]

I sometimes play sendoff but normally are tune

But boy that card relly piss you off when you relay on summons

[teal sparrow]

Send of gud but old meta

I'm a huge fan of card design like send off

[blazing gull]

Well there's times when it still works

[leaden basalt]

Now everyone plays lament :v

[teal sparrow]

...

Whose playing lament?

[leaden basalt]

[echo fossil]

always has been tbh

from what i've seen on tournaments at least

[blazing gull]

The question is who plays joyus?

[echo fossil]

finaly

and then idk

[teal sparrow]

Top AS players

[echo fossil]

some random lyney (or/and) signora + seahorse decks

probably run it too

[blazing gull]

I prefer fresh wind or the one dice cost (don't know the name)

[fringe estuary]

Shenhe SC

[teal sparrow]

I know someone whose on AS lb playing both

[fringe estuary]

[viscid wadi]

i am abadoning judjement to joyous and back xD:)

[teal sparrow]

Shh don't spill the man's secrets XD

[echo fossil]

I'm either using guoba and shuffle it into my deck instantly or just don't use any arcane legend cards at all

they're inconsistent and mess with ur starting hand

[teal sparrow]

Gouba is trash now

[blazing gull]

Yep

[echo fossil]

not when u play it in mid range decks

[viscid wadi]

guoba was good prev patch

[blazing gull]

Normally return in right away

[echo fossil]

u can just throw it into your deck and wait

[viscid wadi]

just t2 free strat somehow was good

[teal sparrow]

It still is though

[blazing gull]

And if you get it later it can be use or tune

[echo fossil]

deck, not hand, mb

round 3, round 4

it still gives lots of value

[teal sparrow]

There's never been a time since the nerf I've wanted stove over something else even in midrange

[echo fossil]

u just dont run it in agressive decks anymore that's it

[blazing gull]

In aggressive deck normally is freshwind

[echo fossil]

like if u're not playing hyper aggressive bs, guoba is still good to have

[viscid wadi]

I mean, i doubt you play guoba in stall.

like

...

[teal sparrow]

Covenant is better now because of Liben and Vana

[viscid wadi]

if you have survived till 6 last cards you survive anyway

[echo fossil]

it depends what type of stall it is ig

[viscid wadi]

so mulling away guoba is bad

But keeping is also bad

[teal sparrow]

Stove is just bad card design because it's either broken or its cope

[viscid wadi]

it is just feels bad to highroll on stall

[brave ice]

No wonder you did good

[viscid wadi]

no

i am actually surprised that bennet is so good into finaly

ngl

[echo fossil]

could've been so much better if not for my stupidity and bad luck

i'm still salty about that cryo cube loss

i set up my opponent for double super conduct

[viscid wadi]

i am surprised that i only wish cardback from ctg and going 12-3

[echo fossil]

i don't think i've ever used his ult lol

i just swap to keqing turn 2

[blazing gull]

Well Bennett heals so all the damage your opponent might do you can just recover it by attacking

[echo fossil]

it just kinda worked

[viscid wadi]

I don't understand anything

[echo fossil]

opponent ends up with 2 or 3 characters affected by elements

and azhdaha clears them

itto comes in clutch often

because i get crystallize i can survive longer

and because i refund dice i can also deal more dmg

generally

[viscid wadi]

hm....

[teal sparrow]

Bennett, Seahorse for extra salt into FiNaLy

[viscid wadi]

i don;t know still what are you diong against 3ble skill t2

cause...

[echo fossil]

i'm thinking of switching to the hutao chongyun xq deck against finaly

[viscid wadi]

in this case it looks dead

[echo fossil]

it did very good at first

idk why i switched

[teal sparrow]

Liyue Friends is really strong imo

[echo fossil]

well i think that definitely happened

i just can't quite remember what i did

[blazing gull]

Just need 2 hydros in r1 and 3 hydros in r2 and that will do it

[echo fossil]

i don't have a strict developed plan for everything, i just go for whatever feels right lol

[teal sparrow]

Yup

[blazing gull]

Yep

[echo fossil]

although almost every single one of my games against finaly followed the same pattern

it only starts to change at turn 2

depending on dice and hand

[teal sparrow]

FiNaLy while being a very easy deck to play still gets messed up

[blazing gull]

Almost all decks have the r1 following the same open movements

[echo fossil]

keqing overload usually wants bennett to ult early tho

but i'm really lazy overthinking my game plan

as long as i have positive winrate something is definitely working

[blazing gull]

Hahaha

Well that's true

[echo fossil]

i'll just go by that lol

[teal sparrow]

You're just good player confirmed

Not like me

[echo fossil]

I'm gonna gaslight myself into believing it and then tomorrow I'll go on a throwing streak of games I could've easily won if not for my stupidity

there was at least one such game today already

[teal sparrow]

Just practice with me so you don't throw

That's what Ebrithil does

[blazing gull]

Just curious did you find anyone who conceded a game?

[echo fossil]

I would love to ngl

I need to check how good liyue friends plays into finaly

[blazing gull]

Usually is very tie

[teal sparrow]

I'll be free after this game so DM me and I'll play

[echo fossil]

aight

[blazing gull]

Cause you cadn freeze if you see it very bad

[echo fossil]

yeah i usually just go for freeze

only considering vape if opponent plays into nahida early

[echo fossil]

728630481

completely missed the part about DM

[echo fossil]

goes to prove the very last part of this message

[plain panther]

The deck is really good?

[echo fossil]

it was used in asia invitational finals so yes it's quite good

is able to deal with annoying stall thanks to bennett, and from my personal experience crushes finaly

[blazing gull]

Almost al meta decks were used in the Asia invitational

[echo fossil]

but maybe i've just been extremely lucky i don't know

[brave ice]

It is quite good, yeah

[plain panther]

I'm thinking to try it now

[teal sparrow]

Will log on now

[brave ice]

Not sure if better than Bennett TM Klee though, probably personal preference

[echo fossil]

azhdaha won me so many games alone

i'd never trade him tbh

but bennett tm sounds scary

the ftk is always annoying to play against

even if it's just a possibility

[blazing gull]

With Bennet TM and other pyro character you can kill one character in round one using pyro resonance on TM

[viscid wadi]

Seahorse is kinda good tbh. Just unit with propable 5 value E, that kinda allows to consistently play dunya engine without old stove

[thorny mesa]

its not even the same deck

one is about big otk turns with gilded azhdaha talent and bennett burst and the other is regular aggro

theyre both good their main play pattern is just very different

[teal sparrow]

To queue or not to queue that is the question

[fringe estuary]

Queue now for free games

[teal sparrow]

Darkshine trynna snipe me

[maiden harness]

[teal sparrow]

Dunno why I'm not a good player

[median mauve]

🦤

[teal sparrow]

You playing too?

[median mauve]

🦤

I'm not good enough to be on the leaderboard

sadge

[teal sparrow]

Lies you're just behind on games

[leaden basalt]

Ofc Kevin is not playing preliminary

Cuz he already won the tournament

[maiden harness]

[maiden harness]

finaly

[teal sparrow]

I love getting 4 usable die across every round

[fringe estuary]

a gacha gamer i see

[teal sparrow]

Fr tho

I don't mind losing but when i lose because I couldnt do anything I get salty

[ruby jolt]

went 5-0 today nice

[oak trench]

Like... opponent having higher ground all the time?

[teal sparrow]

Like rolling 5 geo dice after rerolls in a non geo deck

[oak trench]

Oh that. Yes today`s rounds were like that for me too.

Not a single appearance of Tenacity.

Never pulled it single time 😄

[ruby jolt]

had that yesterday

and then no good cards in hand to use in that situation

[oak trench]

I always have a feeling that I should just change the deck, but then I realise that I am just getting hugely unlucky by never getting enough cards I need 😄

[blazing gull]

Hahahah

[teal sparrow]

Whoever Re_0 is I see you

https://tenor.com/view/rezero-echidna-gif-8780404018310127972

[fringe estuary]

lmao an alt

highly chance not from EU

also that tea looks tasty

i take them all

[plain panther]

Why do people use stall deck on ctg?

[leaden basalt]

I accidentally played with my fun deck
Was rlly surprised when saw it xD
Won btw

[plain panther]

1 match is the same as 2-3 matches against other decks

[maiden harness]

to win

but stall now are not so good

[plain panther]

Really?

[maiden harness]

only my mind

[still arrow]

What the
Just won a game with Venti 1v2, 8 and 7HP

Lotus carry

[still arrow]

Me prayge to not queuing stall :

[plain panther]

I Lost twice against LS

[tranquil sedge]

I signed up but I’m feeling kinda demotivated to play this season

[blazing gull]

Ls?

[maiden harness]

Life sentences

[plain panther]

Ningguang d hydro

[blazing gull]

thx

[plain panther]

And surprisingly I never lost against finaly

[blazing gull]

i won against finaly a copule of times but not with stall decks

[hearty thorn]

Can people spectate in their matches?

its allowed right?

[blazing gull]

well i do think so

[still arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[plain panther]

Lost after 10+ rounds of suffering

[brave ice]

Same here

Those ls players must have too much time to waste

[still arrow]

I could have been 4th if I didn't lost against a Sucrose EC ayaaaaa

[wispy rivet]

surprisingly enough, it feels like i finish with my 5 matches sooner with ls than bin, even though the round numbers are higher :yaethunk:

maybe it's the secret blessing of LS

that makes the user less fatigued playing it :pitabrain:

[plain panther]

What happened?
A blunder?

[still arrow]

blunder ?

And just only need a +1 dice :[

Not a lowroll but missing a dice (and in my deck that's really not a problem normally)

[plain panther]

I also lost because I lack 1 dice

[bitter terrace]

I'm just too fed up with finaly so I resorted to ls and if someone matched me with finaly when I'm playing ls then either you kill me or you concede coz I ain't killing you until last round

Don't hope for sportsmanship if you are playing finaly

Same with yelan, it will otk ls most of the time but when it doesn't I ain't killing you

[teal sparrow]

Goodluck everyone queueing this morning!

[echo fossil]

just play in the morning

I haven't met a single stall deck yesterday, and I managed to play 12 games

8 finalies though

evening is where all the people with free time to spare play

[oak trench]

Gonna need it if I presume right that those who only wanted card backs won't play more 😄 Meaning more refined players will remain in 😄

[teal sparrow]

FiNaLy will probably be more common in the morning since people are in a rush and stall/combo in the evening when people got the time

[teal sparrow]

You'll still find casuals till the last day dw

[echo fossil]

y that's what im always saying

basically gives u an advantage to counterpick given juts how many finalies u meet in the morning

[teal sparrow]

Basically

[plain panther]

I think finaly is not as good as people expect on the current patch
Even though I don't see much difference compared to previous patch
Or maybe finaly users I get matched so far are just bad at using it

[teal sparrow]

Just don't pick MEW

[plain panther]

[echo fossil]

i think people just don't know what to do after turn 1-2

[plain panther]

[teal sparrow]

Most people also dunno how to play around cleanse

[plain panther]

Maybe

[echo fossil]

I kinda don't wanna play today, feeling lazy

gonna once again drag my quota for tomorrow

[teal sparrow]

I'm just kinda meh with playing this season

But I have to play

[teal sparrow]

Teh invaders are already in Q

[brave ice]

They love EU server so much

[teal sparrow]

I'm 0-2 today cause invaders highrolled both games lol

My luck this season is so bad

[plain panther]

Is the queue filled with strong players now?

[mild birch]

ill invade eu when i make eu account

[brave ice]

I'll be ready to fight you till then

[teal sparrow]

No I'm just bad

[mild birch]

looking forward to it

also looking forward to winning against the final boss gatekeeper of eu; kevinZ

[plain panther]

You're strong, and if someone can defeat then they are also strong

[teal sparrow]

Nah

Also Sasakure why so toxic

[empty lion]

Sup

Is it normal that i still didn't get the card back for the 2024s1 ?

I got the primogems a while ago

[teal sparrow]

No one I know has gotten it yet

[empty lion]

Ah okay

Thanks

[teal sparrow]

We've all gotten the primos but no cardback

[blazing gull]

How much time does it take to receive the cardback?

[plain panther]

Lose twice in a row

[blazing gull]

That was my first day

Now I win one and lose the next one

[teal sparrow]

No idea

[blazing gull]

Oh thx

[crystal moon]

What happened

[teal sparrow]

I beat them fairly and when I said gg they responded with "F U" then kicked me

[crystal moon]

[teal sparrow]

Idk why they were so mad

They're still 15-5 so 1 loss isn't anything to worry about

[echo fossil]

should've pulled a reverse uno card and reported them for that lol

[plain panther]

0-3

[supple otter]

Can he tho there is no proof?

[viscid wadi]

Screen of chat, that he didn't send anywhere... Maybe he forgot

[teal sparrow]

He kicked me before I could take a screenshot but it's honestly whatever. I've run into worse people

[supple otter]

insta kick

[echo fossil]

but the chat logs are still there tho

in game

but whatever yeah

too much hassle

[teal sparrow]

When you leave co-op they dissappear tho?

[crystal moon]

Yeah they disappear

[viscid wadi]

Yeah

[echo fossil]

do they? ah

[crystal moon]

Just ignore those sore losers

[echo fossil]

I thought they didn't for some reason

[viscid wadi]

I mean they instakick when win also

And i want to talk

[teal sparrow]

Most my opponents dont and say gg at least

[viscid wadi]

They write gg bye

[crystal moon]

What else would they do

[blazing gull]

I get you

[teal sparrow]

Sasakure is just toxic tho lol.
At least they didn't rope me this season

[blazing gull]

I always says hi and good luck

[supple otter]

We say gg and kick

[blazing gull]

I sometimes chat a little bit after the match

[supple otter]

Y but sometimes i just wanna rush the games quickly cus i need to do somthn else

[blazing gull]

I didn't play 1 game yesterday so today I have 6 to play

[supple otter]

Glgl

[plain panther]

I lost all of my matches
0-4

[blazing gull]

Well you still have one more to reedem yourself

[fringe estuary]

EU isnt as easy as you think

the most invaded region

[plain panther]

Feels like getting cursed
Going from 13-2 to 13-6

[teal sparrow]

EU is wild this season too

[fringe estuary]

skill base match making kick you hard i see

[blazing gull]

I think the hardest region is Asia

[fringe estuary]

yes

but EU have a lot of invaders this time

[viscid wadi]

Let us, Europeans, cope

[leaden basalt]

Welp, we will beat them all

[viscid wadi]

We just wish cardback

[leaden basalt]

[viscid wadi]

And moneys

[fringe estuary]

the fact that you can grind a TCG playable account only takes 3 days

[leaden basalt]

You especially xD

[viscid wadi]

I am washed

[fringe estuary]

[leaden basalt]

[fringe estuary]

arent we all

[crystal moon]

luck left the chat

[viscid wadi]

That's why i didn't play morning queue

[fringe estuary]

someone sucks everyone's luck

[viscid wadi]

Though evening queue is late as F

[blazing gull]

Hahaha

For me is not that late

[viscid wadi]

I mean... I think it is pretty late even for europeans

[teal sparrow]

8-12 is kinda late

Especially for people with work

[blazing gull]

Yeah

[teal sparrow]

EU gets both 8-12s

[blazing gull]

I usually play 2 games before and then 3 after dinner using the evening queue

[supple otter]

i wish it starts 2 hours earlier

[viscid wadi]

For me its 10pm - 2 am

[vast pawn]

3 days for agent ec patch

after its nerf it may take longer

for agent ec 2 chars are free

[fringe estuary]

well i mean, i started making a new account from Sunday and get a LV6 TCG on Tuesday

[vast pawn]

oh

[fringe estuary]

yeah the dragonspine NPC make the TCG grinding faster

b4 that only LV4 can be reached in the 1st week but after they added those NPC you can grind to LV6

[vast pawn]

[blazing gull]

?

[fringe estuary]

yup it looks like this

[vast pawn]

i thought dragonspine NPCs are locked before lv4

[fringe estuary]

nah i grinded them on 1st week so idk

[vast pawn]

[plain panther]

[fringe estuary]

well too late for me to register and invade

[plain panther]

How can you do it so fast?
Is your sanity still intact?

[fringe estuary]

[plain panther]

I need a month to unlock tcg and get good cards

[oak trench]

I see that my reactions to loss are very mild compared to that 😄

[teal sparrow]

Most people's are

[oak trench]

Was there any kind of clutch, they could rant upon?

[teal sparrow]

Nope

I just won cleanly

[fringe estuary]

you can do it now in the 1st week

2nd week should make you Lv8

then 3rd week lv 10

[echo fossil]

they should probably make a rule where only ar 50+ accounts are able to participate

[viscid wadi]

They ask for TCG level, but not wl in registration

[echo fossil]

and it's kind of problematic tbh

but then again tcg ain't that popular

[viscid wadi]

Always wondered why

[echo fossil]

we can just end up killing the game lol

[fringe estuary]

[echo fossil]

I don't mind playing vs invaders personally

but introducing a new rule would still feel right

just so you know that you're actully playing on european server against european players and not some chinese wunderkind

[viscid wadi]

I mean... Bye account of 55AR is more expensive but it won't help at all

Like

[teal sparrow]

Not every invader can buy an account tho

It's a temporary solution cause eventually their alts will reach 50+ anyways

[crystal moon]

is playing against invaders that bad

[teal sparrow]

Out of my 20 games I'd say I've played against 8-9 invaders

[viscid wadi]

I can give my account to CN guy and you won't get if EU guy or invader is playing on my account

[teal sparrow]

^

There's literally no way to fix invading permanently

[viscid wadi]

Yeah

It is just whatever

[crystal moon]

yeah but u didnt get my point

[viscid wadi]

You can win CNs anyways

[crystal moon]

yeah

it also acts as good practice

i believe u can only improve by fighting strong players

[viscid wadi]

I want to vibe while playing and i prefer to watch games with madgeclaps on missplays xD:)

[teal sparrow]

AS and CN players just tend to be better cause they get more tournaments I think.

It shouldn't matter though cause if you're good you should still be able to win

[oak trench]

Question: How will you improve if you will not figure out what you've been doing wrong, nor what stronger player has been doing right?

[crystal moon]

no only cn players get more tournaments

[teal sparrow]

Aren't there some JP tournaments too?

[crystal moon]

yeah as u keep playing more ur game sense develops

[viscid wadi]

Maybe even not more tournaments, but more big tournaments with pricepool closer to CTG and more

[crystal moon]

yeah but those are just once or twice a month

[viscid wadi]

Just question of finance

[teal sparrow]

Technically I'm an EU invader too

Since I don't actually live in EU

[crystal moon]

[teal sparrow]

I just live in the same time zone

[viscid wadi]

Africa?

[teal sparrow]

Pretty much

Almost no game has dedicated servers for here

[viscid wadi]

:pitasonks

[teal sparrow]

We either fall under EMEA or EU

[brave ice]

One thing that I don't like about it is that invaders hide their identity. And it's not only invaders, some eu players as well. Of course this can't be prevented in any way, but for me, changing nickname/pfp and in-game name just for tavern is not fine, you do this to trick other players to think you are newbie.

[brave ice]

.

[fringe estuary]

Well i think its a strat that can make you make mistake then win the game for them

[oak trench]

If I was a newbie, I would never want pros to go easy on me, though. And vice versa.

[mild birch]

ive played enough video games in my life to know never underestimate new accounts

there are no tricking

[mild birch]

ryzac invade na pls and thx

[crystal moon]

I can’t even play one region

[crystal moon]

Well newbie or not don’t let ur guard down against anyone ig

[wicked echo]

I mean tbf if you see the real name its often more pressure and also they might do it because otherwise you often know what deck they will pick

[brave ice]

Yeah, it's not even about playing better or worse, it's mostly about preventing being counterpicked

Which is also understandable considering how ctg works

[leaden basalt]

So its time to play huh

Man, should play 9 games,

Ouch ouch ouch

[fringe estuary]

[echo fossil]

playing 17 games in a row in one day feels different 🔥

[fringe estuary]

Fun fact this queue time for EU has a lot of CN players

[echo fossil]

actually it's 18 for me

tomorrow

or is it

i lost count

anyway

[leaden basalt]

Dont care

[wicked echo]

isnt it the other way?

[fringe estuary]

No solid proof so i cant defend this statement

[brave ice]

No more than morning slot

[hollow turtle]

2 am in China now

[blazing gull]

damm my luck last game didn't exist

dice cringe every single round

[fringe estuary]

Oh yeah i forgot

Well good luck ya guys

[teal sparrow]

Goodluck to everyone playing tonight!

[exotic shadow]

how does the arcane card Passing of Judgment work?
it should disable the next 3 event cards but my opponent just used Liben anyway

[wicked echo]

liben is not an event card

its an companion

[exotic shadow]

oh ok

[celest thicket]

no one is queing ?

[oak trench]

I do 🙂

[blazing gull]

I'm done for today

[viscid wadi]

DP is so good

why didn't i play it earliuer

[leaden basalt]

@viscid wadi 😦

Okay, if we meet again, I will take it too

Will chill for 15 rounds

[viscid wadi]

sure

[viscid wadi]

4-1 again btw

Consistency is a skill surely

[oak trench]

For me it was first 4-1 this tournament, all three previous days 2-3 😄

[frosty coral]

F2S not playing DP though?

[brave ice]

To all players who did bad today: I'm sharing the pain, you are not alone

[native forge]

[viscid wadi]

I did last 3 games

[teal sparrow]

How am I still on lb?

[brave ice]

[teal sparrow]

Re_0 with 18-2 is kinda scary tho

[still arrow]

[still arrow]

I'm 20th without playing yesterday so

And with kitchen deck

EU surely another world

[plain panther]

I'm also not on the leaderboard
I was one of the top leaderboard on day 2 & 3
But completely messed up on day 4 with 4 losses

[echo fossil]

9-3 -> 9-16 speedrun any % today

[viscid wadi]

Realistically it is quite possible. I just skill issued 2 games tbh

[teal sparrow]

I know it's possible it's just impressive

[echo fossil]

first game first finaly down

and now second game against finaly and I have 0 usable dice on round 1, amazing

1 usable dice second round

rnjesus doesn't want me to win today

[teal sparrow]

Literally most my games yesterday

[wispy rivet]

'tis but momentary, but it's still nice to see oneself on the lb :gldge: the last time this happened was many seasons ago

[echo fossil]

wellp

7 loses

guess I'm not making it after all

although it's way better than last time

unless I choke all of my remaining games

[plain panther]

After losing 4x in a row yesterday
I win 4x in a row now

[echo fossil]

17-8

yeah i'm not making it

[velvet jungle]

why there are so many losses on lb?

[echo fossil]

there are people who are yet to spend their quotas

some are waiting for another day, some just tend to play in the evening

[velvet jungle]

i got 22 matches to catch up

[plain panther]

Still have a chance if you win all of your next matches

[echo fossil]

I think someone said that last time in order to get there u shouldn't lose more than 6 times

so the chances are illusive

[velvet jungle]

cap, till 9 losses u probably can get till 16

[echo fossil]

[velvet jungle]

a few got to KO with 26 wins

[echo fossil]

I should somehow repeat day 1 success then

[oak trench]

Yesterday 4-1, today 1-4 with same deck (except 1 match) 😄 Literally anything is possible :3

[brave ice]

A few advanced even with 10 losses last year

That was kinda rare though

[echo fossil]

manifesting every leaderboard player to catch a lose streak

https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279

[brave ice]

I already got it yesterday

[echo fossil]

(cursed myself along the way)

although imma be out when the evening comes

[echo fossil]

first 15 games were so smooth for me

but today

we don't talk about today

[blazing gull]

Hahaha

[brave ice]

I also couldn't be sad about first 15 games

But yesterday

[tough dock]

maaan i really need to catch up

[blazing gull]

You still have plenty of time

[viscid wadi]

Yeah. Evening + tommorow + tommorow*2

[teal sparrow]

Become #1 lb Kaito

[velvet jungle]

wonderful
now 18 more matches to go

[exotic shadow]

Why the rule change to disallow observers?
An instant ban also seems excessive

I'm just glad I saw the rule change before anything happened

Can you only change the setting in a match?

[blazing gull]

I do think so

[untold rose]

Probably because you could in theory get a friend to spectate you and basically play the game for you

[exotic shadow]

I mean you can still stream it if you really wanted to do that

if I wanted someone to play the game for me I'd have to have a communication channel outside the game already anyway

[supple otter]

or just give them ur acc it makes no sense

[exotic shadow]

since you can't chat while playing

in fact if it is an instant ban I think this new rule is MORE likely to be abused, just have a friend try to observe the other player's duel

[blazing gull]

But better not do it just in case

[exotic shadow]

and if they forgot to change the setting, bam instant win

[versed barn]

rounds breaking this rule will be considered canceled

[exotic shadow]

oh

could still be used to get rid of strong players if abused

[exotic shadow]

you could also just only report it if you lose

[blazing gull]

When reporting you need a video of the Game

[exotic shadow]

have your friend try to observe your opponent
record abuse
report if you lose the match or don't like your opponent
profit

[versed barn]

we'll use this as a trial period and see how hard it's abused, this rule is most likely updated in the future

[exotic shadow]

I realize that the organizers want to uphold integrity in the tournament but this rule change seems ill implemented, hitting innocent players with excessive consequences while not fixing any underlying issue

[blazing gull]

I had to reporte one match and they asked me for a video of the game, so they. Can know it is true and the player can receive the strike or penalty

[versed barn]

in essence, it's there to raise awareness about the observation permission

[blazing gull]

Thx god it wasn't yesterday cause I streamed my games with my friends

[fringe estuary]

[exotic shadow]

I like observing my friends' games to see how they're playing and I wouldn't want to cause problems for them

[blazing gull]

Same

[fringe estuary]

Streaming isnt in the banlist

[blazing gull]

I shared my screen while playing

[versed barn]

the issue here is if a player is in coop world with 2 other players playing a match, they can see both players' hands when they observe

[blazing gull]

O right that's true

[versed barn]

and that's absolutely cheating

[blazing gull]

Forgot that

[exotic shadow]

absolutely agree there

I just think the new rule is too likely to hit innocent players to warrant an instant ban
voiding that match is probably understandable

but even if you just void the match it could be abused with the steps I outlined above

you need to at least communicate it better by pinging everyone if there is a rule change

[blazing gull]

Yeah

I got notice of this rule change beacuse you were taking about it

[exotic shadow]

preventing people from seeing your hand is definitely a good enough reason to implement such a rule, but considering that the person negatively affected would be the person in violation of the rule an instant ban still seems excessive

like "oh you didn't prevent people from looking at your cards, now you get banned"

[blazing gull]

They should ping all of us when they posted the new rule

[viscid wadi]

Did that happen???

Even

Like i didn't even think about it tbh

[blazing gull]

Happend what?

[versed barn]

if they're ready to abuse it, then they should be ready to be banned as well, but we'll see how hard it's abused and revise this rule

[viscid wadi]

Like someone cheated by joining another person to world to check hand

[versed barn]

so until it's firm enough, players won't be pinged

[blazing gull]

At least I didn't encounter anyone who did this while we where on the match

[blazing gull]

Okay okah

[versed barn]

sooo protect yourself by turning on the things recommended in #tournament-updates

[teal sparrow]

Good thing I checked everything before playing tonight

[still arrow]

Shame, wouldve spectated you instantly

[teal sparrow]

Man's trynna make me throw

[still arrow]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-do-it-evil-kermit-hood-gif-16437143

[blazing gull]

i like to spectate sometimes just to know what other players use and if i like it steal their idea of the deck

[still arrow]

Does the friendlist still show you're playing TCG if spectating is off? (I forgot :/)

[teal sparrow]

No

It will just show join world

[still arrow]

Don't wanna make people think i'm ignoring them

They should keep the "playing tcg" or whatever in the menu imo

[teal sparrow]

I agree tbh

[blazing gull]

yeah, having to play one gameto be able to change it's kinda annoying

[still arrow]

That too, but what I meant was that people won't see you're playing TCG unless spectating is enabled.

[oak trench]

And since you cannot access chat during match, you won't see any inboxes and players trying to contact you might think that you are ignoring them deliberately

[blazing gull]

yoy can always have your friend sitting next to you or talking to you using a phone

[exotic shadow]

TCG players are always so mean

[teal sparrow]

Chaoseadra just knows I'm playing TCG

[still arrow]

Don't make me press that observe button buddy 😤

[oak trench]

I mean of course, it is up to them to try other methods.

[still arrow]

i'll frame you tonight between 19-23

[blazing gull]

hahahaha

[teal sparrow]

Ids already off

[blazing gull]

I have to play 6 games today to catch up

[still arrow]

I'm at a proper score of 1-0 so far 😤

[still arrow]

https://i.gyazo.com/eb4a29a0ad3cca9d495a8d3c0921d610.png

Liar

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-fatui-fatui-pierro-gif-26180721

[teal sparrow]

Huh

[still arrow]

Perhaps it stays like this until you play another game I suppose since you just changed settings

[teal sparrow]

I switched it all off like 3 games ago

[blazing gull]

i think it takes some time to upload the change of setting

[oak trench]

When I see that Accelerate Duel, what happens if one has it switched on and the other has it switched off? Does the game wait for slower with countdown?

[teal sparrow]

It would just make your turn quicker

[oak trench]

Ohhh :3

[brave ice]

It will still show that your friend is in tcg duel

[blazing gull]

but it will not allow to watch it

[brave ice]

Exactly

[still arrow]

K so @teal sparrow is a liar confirmed

I feel betrayed

[blazing gull]

Hahaha

[oak trench]

I had a feeling that it works like Takti said though. Because it certainly happened to me too. I knew friend was in duel, but game was not showing that.

[still arrow]

Well we do have 2 different stories now, don't we

someone is wrong

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[teal sparrow]

Huh? Why you saying I'm a liar?

[still arrow]

this

[blazing gull]

even if you disable other people to wacth your games while playing, it will show the status that you are playing

[teal sparrow]

But I've had friends playing with it off and never seen them

[still arrow]

Which is what I thought as well hence why I asked. But apparantly that's not the truth (anymore?) how could you betray me like this 😤

[teal sparrow]

Idek anymore apparently

[blazing gull]

solution check it with friends to solve this

and see how the status appear

[still arrow]

https://i.gyazo.com/d661900767292393e441189d09d56a5f.png

Getting more funkier

||doing abyss rn ||

[teal sparrow]

Bruh

Maybe once you change the setting you need to restart the game

[blazing gull]

Maybe

[still arrow]

same as this one @teal sparrow

ill be afk for a bit, gl with the game

[teal sparrow]

Bruh idk then

It's all turned off my side

[solemn burrow]

I haven't thought about this before. If my opponent has someone spectating them, would I be able to tell ?

Just makes me wonder now if in some matches my opponents were actually playing around my hand or cheating.

[teal sparrow]

You would be able to tell

#tournament-updates message

[hollow turtle]

if you're playing in the arena, the observe button would still be there, but you can't watch

if you're playing with someone in your world, then the button would disappear

[teal sparrow]

Appreciate the knowledge

[still arrow]

And i'ma assume people can still see you're playing but there would be no button at all.

[tough dock]

I guess someone got caught cheating

[teal sparrow]

I mean why else would they make a rule about it

[plain panther]

Same, especially if they request several times

[leaden basalt]

[teal sparrow]

Goodluck everyone queuing tonight!

[brave ice]

[teal sparrow]

Imagine losing because you roll 1 usable dice

[blazing gull]

i almost lose because of that

in r1

[teal sparrow]

Wallahi it's over

[blazing gull]

spoiler I won with my eula with 2 hp against 3 characters

[oak trench]

"Fresh wind", grim heart and sweep? :3

[leaden basalt]

[teal sparrow]

Nice

Went 1-4 see you all next season

[wicked echo]

[brave ice]

[fringe estuary]

why ya guys leave

[brave ice]

Me not leaving

[fringe estuary]

[brave ice]

Going to suffer till the end

[teal sparrow]

Cause even if I 10-0 which I won't then I still won't make cut. I'm 15-10 rn

[blazing gull]

kinda

[fringe estuary]

You can have primo

[blazing gull]

free primos

[fringe estuary]

Meanwhile me

Getting ready to speed run 25 games tmr

[teal sparrow]

If I'm lucky it'll be like 100 primos

[oak trench]

11-14 😄 I highly went over my expectations..

[blazing gull]

when i decided to sing for the competition didnt expected to win this many games

[teal sparrow]

It's not worth the stress for me

If I played it would have to be at 11pm my time anyways

[viscid wadi]

Today games were both so easy and boring

No material for video

[frosty coral]

You do youtube?

[viscid wadi]

I posted in gitcg in clips channel

[teal sparrow]

Couldn't be me

[viscid wadi]

ABBA is a music for free games ig

[blazing gull]

lol

[viscid wadi]

You didn't know that main in TCG is good music?

Dummies)))

[frosty coral]

I'll have a look

[supple otter]

wow bro u are so cool for trashtalkin ur opponents

how can we be like u

[frosty coral]

That's not trash talking

[supple otter]

ye saying ur opponents was easy and boring not trashtalking

[frosty coral]

If you think that's trashtalking then you must not have seen some of the actual toxic players

[viscid wadi]

I mean if you highroll and opponent lowrolls that is a boring game too.

If you play good MU, and your opponent loses, that doesn't say about anything about opponent

Games <> opponents

[supple otter]

ye sure

[velvet jungle]

binzu joined the chat

[tough dock]

i get to play AR 32 Invaders

[wispy rivet]

wah i thought i'd gotten lucky today but got matched with binzu on my last one

i'll take the 4-1 tho :trust:

@wicked echo i'll beat you next time tho, just like kevinz

[wicked echo]

you can try but i am not like kevin

[still arrow]

But the primogems

[fringe estuary]

Oh Kevin isnt as OP as Binzu

[plain panther]

Need to win 9 more games to qualify

[fringe estuary]

nah you need at least all 10

[plain panther]

[median mauve]

I think winning 8 might suffice

[wispy rivet]

it does certainly look like this season is tougher :yaethunk:

so 10 losses may be enough for qual

[fringe estuary]

well 7 losses imo