#[America Server] Discussions

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burnt hearth
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I am the doom wym

willow lion
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oh

plucky pawn
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Omg, qixing imcoming

vivid monolith
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😭I want anemo vision

grizzled cape
acoustic ether
sullen tapir
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Who pinged me?

polar barn
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everyone with qixing tag apparetly got pinged

willow lion
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i got the 10 win in a row

tropic slate
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meanwhile here I am with my final record of

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18-17

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which is somehow 17th right now

slow heart
tropic slate
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I don't know what it is about this meta but I just cannot

frigid sundial
willow lion
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it happens

shrewd burrow
willow lion
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i played 8 and lost 5 and gave up

shrewd burrow
willow lion
slow heart
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Time to end my run in 5th place so I can play Mirai in top 8 HeheSmile

shrewd burrow
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only for proxy to take their place on last day and play you HeheSmile

vivid monolith
willow lion
pliant mesa
willow lion
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u simply have to believe hard enough

dark lark
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@quick star my game crashed after we finished sorry I didnt get a chance to say good game

quick star
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No worries I get it, I kinda figured

gleaming parcel
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I’ve met lots of newbies so far this tournament, which is exciting

vivid monolith
gleaming parcel
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lol like people who’s first season it is

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It’s cool to see new people

tight crypt
night token
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crab

ancient spindle
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I agree new card back is a great incentive for new ppl

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I want a blue dragonspine card back purple isnt suitable with its theme

night token
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When Diona meets crab

elfin smelt
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:lmao

polar barn
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i went 4-6 the last day

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played with a tilt

elfin smelt
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Oh

shrewd burrow
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real

gleaming parcel
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I’m just happy I won 5 matches and got the primos and card back tighnarihyperspeen

elfin smelt
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4-1 5-0 4-1 3-2 2-3 4-1 4-1...

gleaming parcel
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Today was my first day playing, I played 12 games kek

gleaming parcel
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Yes, but you get a primo bonus at 5 wins

willow lion
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paypal me 5000 primo

sick blaze
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Me too

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Never too many primos QiqiLurk

thick widget
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Paypal me your soul

sick blaze
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No thank you

ancient spindle
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paypal me your entire fortune

summer berry
summer epoch
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I haven't played in a while and I missed yesterday's matches bc I had a lot of hw due so I was wondering what this means? I thought I had to make up matches

willow lion
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i think u already did all 35

summer epoch
summer epoch
willow lion
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yeah then ur done with the season

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unless u enter knockout

summer epoch
willow lion
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unlucky

summer epoch
willow lion
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thank u

sick marsh
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it seems everytime i swap decks the next opponents deck it just a counter to mine, wdf

white cipher
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i like your pfp

ancient spindle
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based

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:based:

sick marsh
willow lion
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💀

ancient spindle
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sound delicious

molten peak
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Quick question what happen when ur match is tied due round limit?

ancient spindle
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just gicancel

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bc you wont have time for the rematch

molten peak
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Ty I did that

teal pier
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Why NA lb scores so lowGanyUh

ancient spindle
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lacking players ofc

vivid monolith
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sadge where my si and ting

shy grove
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busy with tft

vivid monolith
candid harbor
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Only 5 minutes

ancient spindle
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Drag them out of tft kusastare

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Someone dragged Kevinz out successfully

desert grove
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TFT?

supple marsh
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we can lose a few pro players to it sometimes unfortunately

vivid monolith
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QwQ

desert grove
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I didn't realize there was such overlap between playerbases.

drowsy wharf
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anybody got a deck that is viable these days, its been a while but just need the cardback lol

night token
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Within less than 6 weeks, Hoyo might nerf crab

rose perch
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but crab isnt even the problem. it is cyno

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if they nerf cyno it go back to layla crab and that version of crab has a lot more weaknesses

teal pier
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😨

sullen walrus
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crab is not the problem, yumka is

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yumka let crab win a lot of match up that's supposed to beat it

vivid monolith
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Shann sees the light

tropic slate
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thing is, yumka is also pretty toxic to crab

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assuming crab moves second at least

sullen walrus
clever fiber
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this was my first time really getting deep into tcg or playing pvp, I'm excited to keep playing whenever crab out of meta

sullen walrus
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and if both side do it, then you are at the advantage cuz both side wasted 3 dices and you can scale.

elfin smelt
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imagine yumka steals yumka

acoustic ether
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you either stole gilded or wgs

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also if crab go first you can stole countdown and destroy their float

drowsy wharf
summer berry
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They’re referring to electro cicin mage, xiangling, nahida

drowsy wharf
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thank you

drowsy wharf
willow lion
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double talent opera calx start 😭

drowsy wharf
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I cant seem to get a match after several queues, just wanting to get my cardback tho...

nocturne kestrel
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I feel like crab is good, but there are still many good decks in environment compared with crab.

clever fiber
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I do know it's not the first time tho, like, whale happened

runic thicket
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because yoink is just very annoying

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regardless of the deck playing it

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but since crab is also very meta

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you got both mixed

shrewd burrow
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crab is not even close to as dominant as whale was

nocturne kestrel
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crab is not even close to as dominant as its former

ancient spindle
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xianyun is so op

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nerf this crane

drowsy wharf
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whoever i played just now gg

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ig using old decks from many seasons ago isnt working

willow lion
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environments change

drowsy wharf
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indeed, gonna be tougher for me to get the cardback hmm

willow lion
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just 3 winscri

white cipher
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raiden quicken seems to be good, they use updated action cards though

candid harbor
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This patch has been as good as 4.6

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New decks were rapidly created but non of them asserted dominance for a long time

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We have crab stall, fatuizan, mes, double dragon, kuki yaoyao, newer kuki Kiara, and then xiao lithic

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Well one complaint early was how dominant yelan otk was at early patch when treasured was Included

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But it was nerfed just after one week and we got a good patch

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4.7-4.8 was a hot mess for no Ban tournament

shy grove
summer berry
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I’m surprised people think this patch is good it seems horrible to me

pearl glade
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just curious yaethunk

summer berry
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I’d rather not

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People speak of diversity but I see none

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People also speak of balance but I see nothing there either

vivid monolith
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As expected of my Kevin

south tiger
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based

shy grove
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Archetype is kinda diverse by play rate

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But not win rate

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One deck kinda wins everything

tropic slate
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the triangle meta is real right now

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and i'm not sure i like that

vivid monolith
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I don’t even know how it’s triangle. There are 6 meta decks now

summer berry
primal plume
drowsy wharf
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ill be doing that next time

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do you have any decks that you recommend?

primal plume
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you could try xianyun cryocube kuki
but it's hard to say if it'll still be viable next season

candid harbor
vivid monolith
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Considering Kevin’s cope hypermagic decks like herald sayu, there’re even more

ancient spindle
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where's crab stall ?

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madge

crisp ether
vivid monolith
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poggies is this the tcg god KevinZ who did 30 games in two days with a 27-3 score

candid harbor
ancient spindle
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easily win vs Wriomiya

candid harbor
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Cyno crab can beat wriomiya though

ancient spindle
summer berry
vivid monolith
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Yeah Kevin’s truly a fraud for baiting me to play herald sayuMadge

ancient spindle
earnest heron
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What's a good alternative to a jeht deck. Is there something that can create a bunch of dice or shields?

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Maybe I gotta use the extra old liben and paimon as the only alternative?

safe coral
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yoink is annoying turn 1, but they have to go first and also draw it

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And if you go 2nd you can try to play around it

vivid monolith
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hsc has a 16% win rate against crab in cn tournamentsGanyUh

polar barn
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CN players are just bad

vivid monolith
acoustic ether
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maybe because of robbery

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useless timaeus

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or you stole the wgs

vivid monolith
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U see the light

shrewd burrow
shy grove
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beats crab Copium

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surely it beats crab

thick widget
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it doesnt

thick charm
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not me leaving matches until the last moment and then getting daylight savings'd

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lovely country I live in doing daylight savings at random times lmao

candid harbor
gleaming parcel
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Hold up daylight savings is this weekend??

candid harbor
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But with a decent roll at least

thick charm
gleaming parcel
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I didn’t even

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What

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How did I not notice

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I’m so confused

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GOOGLE SAYS ITS November?!

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Oh well kek

thick charm
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im not american HeheSmile

ancient spindle
candid harbor
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I’m not American either

ancient spindle
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Samage

thin ermine
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grapple is the stupidest card in the game and should be nerfed

plucky pawn
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Grapple? U mean yumka?

shy grove
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He meant yoink

slow peak
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Bruh no one here for tcg ?

plucky pawn
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Wdym

plucky pawn
drowsy wharf
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Do we know if this cardback will appear again for next preliminary stage?

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not sure if i can win 3 by tonight

ancient spindle
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it will till further notice

drowsy wharf
ancient spindle
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not clear about how long but the card back has high chance to rerun in next CTG in the next patch i think

drowsy wharf
trail leaf
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hatethefloor got injured and have been unable to play for the last week or so hopefully i get 2 wins in by tonight

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unlikely considering queue but we'll see...

willow lion
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just play tcg in the hospital

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🧠

drowsy wharf
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i need to get 3, fun times

trail leaf
plucky pawn
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Mirai is a genius yeah

slow peak
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Yoink yoink 🤔

pearl glade
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Yoink yoink W_HuHyperYAY

slow peak
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🎩How many business days take to get the rewards and the back!?

thin ermine
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Had a brain issue, wasted my arcane for 0 benefit, and my wifi crashed

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Top tier end to a run

slow peak
night token
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2-3 business months

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or 60 to 90 business days

vivid monolith
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੭ ᐕ)੭*⁾⁾

candid totem
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i fought against the same guy twice and both times they conceded is there something i was supposed to do orr

willow lion
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unless theyre intentionally feeding u the win

drowsy wharf
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asking doesnt hurt and records your efforts

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but according to the rules, you got the win? lol

candid totem
candid totem
drowsy wharf
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do it after 18 mins

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how long does mod mail reply back again?

candid totem
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i dont remember the guy's discord but i have their uid does that work

drowsy wharf
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theyll work with u

candid totem
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👌

rose perch
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all your matches are saved in the thread in the preliminary-queue

shrewd burrow
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oh wtf they are

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omg るなとび男 was dio KokoShock kusastare

candid totem
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ohhh i didn't know that

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that's so useful

shrewd burrow
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real

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my reaction fr

plucky pawn
supple marsh
pearl glade
vivid monolith
polar barn
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bcz i aspire to be better than him

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no actually i am

shrewd burrow
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is proxy out this season GanyUh

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won't even try to fourpeat america kusastare KokoShock

vivid monolith
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Proxy fan sadgesadge

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Proxy wants to give other people opportunitieskleepat

shrewd burrow
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but i want to see fourpeatKokoShock

vivid monolith
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He’s still playing eukleepat

molten peak
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Congratulations to @wise shale and @shadow sonnet the two only TRUE NA players in this season to get to LB

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Everyone else is just taking a place of someone who should be there

runic thicket
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but runatobio and mirai is NA no

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it's not like they are invaders

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and liell too

candid harbor
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Why do we have to bring this up every season

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also

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Lieil is also NA lol

runic thicket
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yea theres a bunch of NA citizens

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and play there

willow lion
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i'm not a citizen but i'm natural KaeyaStare

molten peak
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OK my bad not knowing 3 of you

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But how bout Dio whom literally went to Asia pc last season?

willow lion
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everyone else is not from NA

molten peak
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Or Anzu or Meo? Or every other alt that I don't know

willow lion
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i think anzu might be native too but idk for sure

molten peak
candid harbor
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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goodluck with that

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I dont have any further comments

willow lion
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would u rather see a cringe leaderboard with very little good player

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if u remove all the invaders u gonna see ppl with like 14 losses on leaderboard

molten peak
willow lion
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so like few same ppl is just gonna dominate every patch because skill gap

molten peak
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Or they make a total overhaul of the tournament format

molten peak
willow lion
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it's not happening if it introduces competition

molten peak
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We seeing 3 alts classifying in top 16 in 3 regions

willow lion
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rn u can't predict who's gonna end up in the finals because similar skill range

molten peak
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That's less total different players

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What should be 48 different players is reduce cause some are the same

willow lion
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better than seeing cope at knockout

thick widget
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alright

molten peak
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Bro that's not the competition spirit

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What is called sportsmanship

thick widget
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Imo, competition can never be completely fair. For example, you can argue that less skilled players winning tournaments simply because most of the other skilled players play in other regions is equally unfair.

Let's say CTG doesn't exist and we have one big tournament that includes all 3 regions. If we assume 48 people reach knockout stage, do you really think it will have 16 EU, 16 America and 16 AS players?

You can make an argument that some players playing in two or three regions is unfair, since they have 2x or 3x chances to qualify compared to single-region players, but its not like they are given special privilege to play in multiple regions. Anyone who has time for it is free to do the same.

America server got two times more gold cardbacks than EU server (last year, there were NA and LATAM Prince Cup compared to one EU Prince Cup). That is not fair, so should we take some gold cardbacks from them and give it to EU players? Obviously, no.

molten peak
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But clearly ppl in this server can't see what this is

thick widget
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If you came to CTG to win, looking for the excuse in invaders won't raise your skill level.

If you came to CTG to have fun, you will be met with meta decks whether or not you meet invaders (This is no longer early TCG scene, where everyone brought their own decks. Meta decks are easily accessible everywhere and many people participating in tournaments obviously want to win)

If you came to CTG to improve, facing invaders will help you more than facing less-skilled players.

If you came to get primogems, you are already wasting time and sanity playing 35 games against whale.

If you came to CTG to get 3 wins for the cardback,... Nvm, you probably don't even know invaders exist

That being said, if you don't like invaders, I fully support voicing your opinion and asking for change. However, I encourage you to voice it in a civil way and not resort to personal attacks. Both people who agree and disagree with you will be more eager to listen to your suggestions if you present them in a respectful way.

willow lion
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holy pasta

pearl glade
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dvdpasta

willow lion
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i love 🍝

pearl glade
molten peak
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Same arguments same words

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And same issues

thick widget
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then stop bringing it up

thick widget
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everybody heard you already

molten peak
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Sorry but I can't be quiet seeing something is not right

thick widget
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bro

safe plaza
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pshhh

thick widget
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this is so narcissistic ngl

willow lion
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where is my lia on leaderboard

safe plaza
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anyway guys, please break it up

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no one is going to convince the other party to see it another way

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and things probably won't change so easily

thick widget
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you keep bringing this up just becauss you think your opinion is the only right thing

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yo already voiced your opinion

safe plaza
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it's good to give feedback and rally people for your cause

thick widget
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but this happens every seasons in discussions

safe plaza
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the best thing to do is probably to ignore the conversation when it happens if you're not interested

thick widget
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the same thing is being said over and over again because one person thinks they have the supreme opinion

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this is what feedback boxes were made for

safe plaza
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technically, tavern's stance is that they strongly discourage the use of alts. but they don't have a good way of enforcing it as a rule right now

thick widget
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then go write that in feedback

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instead of publicly shaming invaders

safe plaza
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all i'm trying to say is that both perspectives are understandable considering the state of CTG

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and we have to find a way for them to coexist while being respectful

thick widget
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idk how this guy still thinks he needs to announce the same thing over and over again when they alr have a copy pasta made for them

plucky pawn
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I dont care bout invaders, they can beat me, but I can beat them too
Soo...it depends really on ur skill level)
and luck, yeah

thick widget
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you are the sole reason why this copy pasta was made

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we hear you

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we cared for your opinion

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and we responded to it

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but had to make a copy pasta because you cant stop bringing it up

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and its text never changes

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because its always the exact same topic

pearl fern
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have you tried like, just maybe not responding to it? can just let it be

thick widget
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I wanna backread the actual NA discussions tho

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but they get filled up by one guy

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but sure cya when the seasonal rant is over

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when this dude stops holding NA discussions hostage

pearl fern
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To be fair your copy pasta is way longer than any of their messages

molten peak
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Bro why do you think I'm do it here? Why do I ping qixing? Cause I'm an idiot? Well maybe I am. But majorly because I already wrote several times for qixing and nothing is done bout this issue. And as more time pass less ppl complain bout maybe cause they don't care anymore, but i do, and apparently I'm the only one right now doing. It's a issue about the organization not about the players. I think u didn't understand that, I don't come here to harss players, I come here to share my point of view w the community that I already shared w the organization, and that can be the same view of some ppl that simply chose to be silent.

plucky pawn
runic thicket
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considering even NA residents themselves don't really see it as a problem often means it's not a majority

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a few ppl seeing it as a problem isn't going to make it enough of one

willow lion
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the simple solution is to get gooder

runic thicket
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also it's not like you checked all the ones who's NA

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you mentioned 2 ppl but didn't check everyone else

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it really seemed like just ppl you knew

willow lion
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@runic thicket i still remember the game where i lost to u cuz i made a dumbass mistake

runic thicket
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I think I lost to you once because I misplayed too

plucky pawn
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And I did a losestrike (0-4) in last day cuz of massive skill issueing
Idk why but it happens

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ugh

shrewd burrow
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oh you didnt make it this season KokoShock cri

plucky pawn
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rewatched that games, and man, i usually never did such stupid mistakes

willow lion
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instead of action on herald

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but my mistake was just stupid

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i literally miscount the dmg

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💀

runic thicket
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honestly I went through CTG having wrong mindset against XY

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was playing like they are kenki/HSC stuff

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need to just sac herald

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changed mindset but was too late anyways

willow lion
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xianyun is good into hsc

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cuz it just wins dmg race

runic thicket
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yea but I did even more stupid stuff trying to keep things alive/random swapping

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just need to sac herald and race

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not do random swap

willow lion
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u really have to roll good and cripple xianyun at r2

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else u just loose

runic thicket
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either way I fixed those issues now so I know more properly how to play against XY but it was too late by then anyways

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I only really had enough practice against crab decks

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and I did pretty good into all of them

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I think only losing twice

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a lot of the decks I lost to I had wrong mindset/didn't really meet them enough times to practice it

vivid monolith
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If my si and my ting were not addicted to tftsadge

polar barn
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it's not fair

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since im a god

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i can bend reality

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but nah

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i like seeing ants struggle

safe plaza
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I started the TFT brainrot during the music set

vivid monolith
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KokoShock how can it be Lia Lia’s fault

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If it has to be someone’s fault, then it’s Kevin’s faultkleevil let’s just bully Kevin

rose perch
willow lion
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2 of your native NA is fighting round 1 it's so cooked for NA

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😭

south tiger
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you only see it as a problem bc you don’t win buddy WorryPat

pearl glade
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meow~

willow lion
pearl glade
acoustic ether
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you can participate in asia as an invader too

thick widget
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It seems like the concept of the best player winning a competition looks outdated to some certain players

molten peak
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Some ppl here doesn't know and doesn't care about sportsmanship is bout

pearl glade
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what is it about

pearl fern
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I can agree that participating in multiple regions isn't ideal and would be better if fixed

molten peak
pearl fern
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But calling that unsportsmanlike doesn't really make me sympathetic to the argument

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You can blame the system all you want but as soon as you make it about the players you've lost me

tropic slate
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if there's like a vote or something I'll cast one in that

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but honestly my performance this season was plainly bad, and people from other regions were not the reason for my poor finish

south tiger
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I think many of us are only doing this because it isn’t prohibited

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if one day they decide to change the rule I’ll just stop

rose perch
molten peak
# pearl fern You can blame the system all you want but as soon as you make it about the playe...

Sports and competitions are a challenge against your self, a challenge against your rival and more important some to have fun with it.
Competition is some to enjoy with others and for that we have sportsmanship, the attitude you must have in competition.
Besides all rules sets for the game or to enter the competition there's something more than only the rules. There's where sportsmanship became important.
Sportsmanship can also be called the spirit of FAIR PLAY and in addition to be fair and just sportsmanship also mean you don't do things that make you look bad.
If the organization strongly discourage to do why do it?
And what's worst is everyone is praising it.

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It's not my text btw

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Quote to Gran Turismo

pearl fern
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I don't know anyone is praising it necessarily

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My only problem is the stuff directed at players

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I agree with the overall sentiment and point

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But not how it's being pushed

rose perch
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It is similar to how there are kiddy leagues, high school leagues, college leagues, women leagues, national leagues. If every sport only had the best of the best entering every division. You are not going to build any community or foster any growth. But this is a message for the staff and for them to take it into consideration if they want to promote the mode.

pearl fern
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To me the players are doing what is the best EV for them competively, which is to participate in the tournaments they have time for and win more

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I mean yeah you can call that selfish or whatever, how you interpret it is really up to you

pearl fern
willow lion
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i dont think itll affect my bracket

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😭

tropic slate
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iirc one of the previous times this came up, someone said that they think of CTG as three concurrent, separate, tournaments

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and not one tournament split into three regions

molten peak
willow lion
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everyone has 3 tickets

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u can go get 3 ticket if u want to

rose perch
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how can I have 3 tickets?

molten peak
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Bro cmom...

willow lion
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by making 2 more genshin and discord account in the 2 other server

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thats 3 tickets

molten peak
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If u can't fix the deal just join them?

rose perch
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this is my main discord. I need it for everything I do. I can't just log into to something else. also where would I get other accounts in other servers?

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go against tos and buy them?

tropic slate
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grind them up yourself, assumedly

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assuming you're using a pc or mobile you can just switch which region when you're creating a new account

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for playstation it's more complicated but I don't think impossible

rose perch
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come on just admit you are exploiting a loophole that the average person cant even do

tropic slate
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it's an issue of time investment mostly

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I don't have an alt because it would be extremely inconvenient to use and I also don't have the time to grind that up

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but, like, several people do and that's not necessarily bad

molten peak
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It would be much easier if they just fix this issue by doing little things. Raise AR n world lvl. Raise tcg lvl.

tropic slate
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whether to use both accounts at the same time to compete is a separate question

willow lion
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and grind the cards on it

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like what every invader acc do

tropic slate
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problem is it takes like a week of doing nothing else to even grind up to AR32, longer if you have a life

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at which point you then have to do the grind for cards which is real-time gated

willow lion
#

every invader has gone thru that process

molten peak
#

Bro ar32 to play in tournament it's a joke. It's a real invite to invaders. Make at least ar55 wl8. At this point everyone had play enough genshin and are far beyond that

willow lion
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u realize not everyone likes to play genshin or at least not anymore

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and might not necessarily be ar55

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not every tcg player absolute loves to play genshin

rose perch
# willow lion like what every invader acc do

there also another one of my paranoia of sus behavior especially toward the end of the week and this is done by "invaders" but I won't talk about it here since I don't have evidence of it yet.

molten peak
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Make 50 wl7 then

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Ar32 it's a joke

tropic slate
#

is it fair that the people who have time to grind accounts in multiple regions and then compete in multiple reasons have an advantage, with more opportunities to succeed?

is it fair that people who have more time to practice the game and increase their core skill level have an advantage? Obviously it is.

what makes the two different, really? It's time investment both ways

twilit steppe
safe plaza
#

runa is always looking out for me

willow lion
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they put in a extra 15 hour+ worth of grind just for another ticket

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give them that ticket cuz its not even against the rules

safe plaza
#

wait you guys are still talking about this

pliant mesa
safe plaza
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to enforce no alts, you would need some form of ID check

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and registration for CTG is super simple - yet efficient

tropic slate
safe plaza
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they probably aren't planning on scaling up matters here to be able to make those changes

tropic slate
#

even though that has the exact same limitations for enforcement

pliant mesa
safe plaza
tropic slate
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the fact that the same isn't banned across different regions indicates that it's deliberate

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yeah

safe plaza
#

i brought up a suggestion many moons ago that you could ID check before KOs starts

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and then from KOs, you have already vetted those players from SS

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like let people participate on alts until KOs

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if they want practice

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but KOs/top 16 gets filtered to that region only

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i think there would be a lot less activity though unfortunately

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and so maybe they will never fully enforce it even if they find the means to

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because they want the numbers showing people are playing the game

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to justify the prizes

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btw this is all my personal speculation

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but i think

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TCG would need to be more popular, and CTG as well

molten peak
safe plaza
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to justify extra enforcement

twilit steppe
rose perch
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we dont need anything so complex. Like I said before ID checks for prize redeem. That would stop all invaders. It is fair for tax reasons as well

safe plaza
#

it's just a symptom of a larger problem

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if y'all wanna really problem solve, try to figure out how to make GITCG go viral

rose perch
pearl fern
# molten peak Well imo fair play shouldn't be subjective. Having 3 tickets while most have onl...

the 3 tickets also come with 3 time investments. Those players also just simply have more time to put into the game and frankly I think it's fine that they get out of it the time invested.

I think this is fundamentally just a difference in how like, the super competitive players approach the something like this vs someone who is more casual/community oritented. I 100% agree this isn't ideal for community building and I would 100% prefer it was not like this, but I still don't get behind this is somehow the players' fault or that it's because they lack integrity.

willow lion
#

if u get destroyed by ar30 ppl what makes it diff if u get destroyed by ar60

primal plume
#

i guess what they're trying to say is that there's more skilled players in one server accumulating than there should be? so the chances of running into someone of equal skill is decreased, which is discouraging.

pearl fern
#

something like that

safe plaza
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A proper ranked ladder that's MMR based embedded into the game would fix a lot of problems

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And probably also entice people to try

willow lion
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else it wouldn't make sense for every KO player to have 75% win rate

molten peak
#

I'm not putting anyone integrity in question, tho just saying it's not fair. But I've made enough noise for one day and for the entire season.
I'm sorry if anyone feel bad.
All I wanted was what Lia said, let them play but if they can't prove be resident don't let them play the top 16.
But anyway maybe just my skill issue

rose perch
pearl fern
# molten peak I'm not putting anyone integrity in question, tho just saying it's not fair. But...

To me calling into question sportsmanship is a bit of an attack on the players. If that wasn't your intent that's fair and I know this conversation has dragged on.

That said I think the frustrations are important and I think it's fine to bring them up - I would actually hope the recurring discussions are noticed by the TO's as a hot topic and leads to some change myself - and I would prefer to have them repeatedly if that's what's needed

rose perch
#

but isnt it also reasonable to assume if they have the time to exploit, make alts and do all this stuff in a "mini side mode" they would also have bad sportsmanship and resort to other sus behavior?

tropic slate
#

not really?

pearl glade
#

they seem chill for the most part

pearl fern
primal plume
#

elaborate sus behavior?

twilit steppe
#

"Sus" behaviors such as...? GanyUh

tropic slate
#

is it reasonable to assume that someone who uses that same amount of time to just grind and practice, would be somehow less likely to have bad sportsmanship and resort to sus behavior?

pearl fern
#

there's no need to elaborate. It's already a completely unreasonable stance and that's that

rose perch
#

i dunno you all called me crazy when I said there were people doing multiple accounts in 1 server. But staff eventually found them. I just leave it at that.

pearl fern
#

YanfeiThink I don't remember that. That's always been a possibility and is solidly against the rules

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I never had doubts people would try to do something like that

rose perch
#

my first game in this season. was a guy who try to play me with an account different than the uid listed in the match page. They clearly made a mistake and log into the wrong discord account. He cancel game right away. But ya sus behavior

pearl fern
#

your question wasn't whether there was sus behavior

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so this example is pretty irrelevant

rose perch
pearl fern
#

if I didn't then it probably had something to do with also trying to use that as justification to make an attack on players within the rules playing in multiple regions, like you are now

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hopefully you see how those two things are not equal

summer berry
#

🦤

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What did I miss

summer berry
gleaming parcel
lucid sable
#

kleesob I got too busy and didn't get 3 wins- my card backge nyooooo

rose perch
#

it is fine they be using this card back for the rest of the year as a reward

tropic slate
#

kevin isn't even part of the problem this time lol

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I don't see Proxy or Quagsire on NA or AS leaderboards

rose perch
#

and this is why we got 5? 6? NA this time. 🎉

acoustic ether
#

i didn't even finish this time to much crabs cyno and mirrors taking +1 hour

rose perch
#

how many games were you off by?

acoustic ether
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9

rose perch
#

we had so many days though. were you close?, cut off at 9 losses it was over for me by day 4

tropic slate
#

we don't all have that much time though

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esp on the west coast I assume, where morning queue is simply not reasonable and evening queue is already halfway over by the time you're home from work/school

lucid sable
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😭 yeah

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morning queue I can get maybe one match in during my free period at school and the evening queue I'm like over an hour into when I'm just getting home and getting dinner

hot orchid
#

I would suggest removing morning queue altogether and moving the extra hours to the evening queue (extend till midnight). Would also help to discourage some invaders I think, but mostly because its really hard to play in the mornings (for both students and working people). Even on the weekends I'm not waking up by 9am kek

ancient spindle
#

why not make prelim stage open 12 hours a day

runic thicket
#

I would guess because some mods needs to be on

raven fiber
#

They kinda do need to extend the hours, as catching up if you miss a day or two is limiting to the meta forcing you to use non stally decks. 5 hour windows should be better.

runic thicket
#

in order to resolve cases like player not confirming

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you can't make it 12 hours a day because prob not enough staff to take care of such issues

south tiger
#

longer queue windows mean worse matchmaking

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and some people already have problems with that so I don’t think it’ll change

gleaming parcel
#

I was only able to participate in a single day of queuing. I only was able to play 12 matches.

I’ve been wanting the queue to be extended a For a long time

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but I digress

vivid monolith
#

🥱

pearl glade
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I wanna get prelim score like roonatoobio

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@ancient spindle who did you lose to in asia

safe coral
#

"The tournament schedule isn't good because it isn't tailored to me" is what I'm hearing.

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I think they've done a good job. A narrow queue slot means better matchmaking. Furthermore, they have limited staff/resources so them covering both mornings and evenings is commendable.

desert grove
#

If players in each regional tournament belonged to the region in which they were competing, it would sit better with me both as a player and as a fan of the scene. It doesn't feel right that the best player in the Americas server is not from the Americas region. That's my 2-cents.

elfin smelt
runic thicket
#

I mean if the opp doesn't confirm you can't queue at all

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end of prelim is for score stuff

ancient spindle
#

i thought we can gi cancel that ?

runic thicket
#

do you just gi cancel and then you get score again later?

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and somehow end up with a extra quota

ancient spindle
#

there's a gicancel for AFK players so i think its doable

runic thicket
#

not sure because from conversations here we just told them to contact qixing

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when that happens

rose perch
#

but you dont get the point at least I didn't get it. If they do add it later it is at the end but I already did all 35 games so what they going to do give me 36 points?

ancient spindle
runic thicket
#

if you cancel you get another quota

ancient spindle
#

yeah but the game should be counted right cuz it happens during the room existence

rose perch
#

one of my games I told you the person I played's uid didnt match. They just press gicancel and the thread was locked.

ancient spindle
#

yeah thats just normal gicancel without a game taking place

elfin smelt
vivid monolith
#

If you finish the match and the opponent doesn’t confirm, you can just cancel and report. This 10 point and 1 EXP will be added to you by Qixing after the prelim stage ends

vivid monolith
shrewd burrow
#

i mean its only eight players in that case too

vivid monolith
#

People surely play multi regions for moneyDeadge

candid totem
#

im several hours late 2 the discussion but i think there's a severe lack in resources to help u learn in eng tcg scene thats why the invaders can kick our asses, im a chinese speaker but joined the game in na day one, and when tcg came out i went to cn community to learn how to play it because the guides r very comprehensive, i think the best thing 2 do is not to bitch abt invaders but rather learn from them or translate their content but also i get that not everyone is bilingual

vivid monolith
#

Maybe it’s better to have id check tbh, just to give locals more opportunity

candid totem
#

i would love 2 be a translator for cn tcg content but i do not have the time nor the skill (in tcg) lol

shrewd burrow
#

i personally don't have the biggest problem with invaders in preliminary

vivid monolith
#

It’s not sarcasmGanyUh

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I don’t either. They help us queue faster

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But considering local players’ concerns, maybe it’s better to have id check to make the local tcg community thrive

shrewd burrow
#

yes, my idea is just ID check the top 16

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if invaders want to get in some practice games with no reward, thats fine by me

vivid monolith
#

True true

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Wait if they have id check starting next patch, this is my last chance to beat that Kevin guyGanyUh

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😞stressed

shrewd burrow
#

they won't don't worry

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youll have at least 6 more chances

summer berry
vivid monolith
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Madge I would have beaten you if I didnt play your sayuMadge

supple marsh
#

I'm saying non-CJK because it seems like somehow the Japanese and Korean scenes can consume CN content just fine

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of course some progress has been made (e.g. Summoners' Summit) but there's still a lot to do

sacred marten
#

When can I beat KevinKokoShock

candid totem
#

yeah im just saying this might be the root of the problem bc they aren't inherently better than us they just have more resources and more ppl to play against seriously (me i don't know where to go to practice bc co op is filled with noobs and tcg servers seem dead lol)

rose perch
#

would a tighter range on the q hours solve the long q time? If it was only 2 hours. Sure we probably cant fit all 5 games per day but we be able to find games instantly.

vivid monolith
#

I think English tcg community is pretty strong though. We have this Kevin guy cooking meta decks too

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In fact cn meta this patch, the crab cyno is originated from Kevin

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Why this Kevin guy so good ੭ ᐕ)੭*⁾⁾

sacred marten
supple marsh
#

and that Quagsire says we need more Quagsires

ancient spindle
rose perch
#

even if it takes 40 mins you have 2 q time slots and extra days

shrewd burrow
#

i have never had queue time problem ever, 2 hours is ridiculous

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either youre starting too late or... i just don't understand it

vivid monolith
#

I think people are exaggerating cn players’ resource

supple marsh
vivid monolith
#

In fact when I play cn tournaments, many players use meta decks but don’t know how to play it

ancient spindle
supple marsh
shrewd burrow
twilit steppe
ancient spindle
#

at least CN has what we dont

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rating

vivid monolith
#

In fact in cn community, there’re only a few people who can cook real decks

candid totem
vivid monolith
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I don’t even practice in rmm

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I feel it’s a waste of time tbh. Cn rmm is weak too

shrewd burrow
#

just one is enough kusastare

vivid monolith
#

Practice with friends and review the games. That’s more useful

candid totem
#

yeah lol ive made a few friends this tournament (thanks guys)

vivid monolith
#

Kevin doesn’t even practice with real people. He just practice with npcs

ancient spindle
#

why only 1 find a dozen ✅

shrewd burrow
#

will u be my friend 🥺

supple marsh
ancient spindle
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Surely

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welp me back to YGO

candid harbor
#

i guess this is why NA has 54k messages while AS is only at 49k

#

drama show

vivid monolith
# supple marsh what's your current rating btw

I think I just dropped to 2900 bc I was playing Kevin’s cope decks. HuTaoPray used to be phantom but I think low phantom players are easier than 2900 people because 2900s are where players want to win the most

rose perch
vivid monolith
#

No rewardsGanyUh

supple marsh
rose perch
#

wait so those mora and book pictures were fake?

candid harbor
#

i would be glad theres a ranking system in global tcg

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other than rewards

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rewards in tcg will just make people hate the game more

supple marsh
vivid monolith
sacred marten
vivid monolith
supple marsh
vivid monolith
#

Why would I GaspDodo not everyone cares about it. I met AFKay when I was 2700HuTaoPray he was testing decks and not caring about scores at all

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He can get into fonta cup with tournament scores anyways

supple marsh
#

"path to pro starts in-game" ruined

vivid monolith
candid harbor
#

who was the people that cook

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2 hydro cyno

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and apep turbo

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pretty sure apep turbo was laobo's dish

vivid monolith
#

Oh laobo I forgot him

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Ok so 6 peopleKleesit

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Not as many as people think

shrewd burrow
#

that we would recognize

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i am curious

vivid monolith
#

They and Kevin cook every meta deck every patch GanyUh

candid harbor
#

didnt rev cook wriomiya?

vivid monolith
#

I’ll call them Genius 7HuTaoPray

vivid monolith
candid harbor
#

idk, he came up with the character lineup really early

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but the whole list could be different

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its like bennett herald cube was a thing i and rev cooked in 4.7 but CN peeps renovated it in 4.8

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so i still considered that their sauce

vivid monolith
#

Idk I think rev is talented too, but these 7 people are frequently and regularly cooking meta decks every patch. Some meta decks may be from others, but these people cook the most

shrewd burrow
#

so why are there less than 7 meta decks every patch GanyUh /j

sacred marten
#

Even a few games in ctg

candid harbor
#

lol, i won against conwhale with that

sacred marten
#

Buy the list is totally different

candid harbor
#

unless serpent snipe my bennett with adeptus R2

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it was winnable

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iirc

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i also played that against you

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but it didnt work

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lol

shrewd burrow
#

wouldnt any decent conwhale player do that

candid harbor
vivid monolith
#

0% wr is mainly player’s issueKleeSit

sacred marten
#

I was just too tired about losing conwhale mirror that day

candid harbor
#

conwhale peeps in ctg

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was sth else

sacred marten
#

And get an even worse WRGanyUh

vivid monolith
candid harbor
#

but inzhagi still managed to beat a plenty amount of conwhale with double dragon consistenly

vivid monolith
#

They like serpent burst too much. I can’t understand it

candid harbor
#

even falcon

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as expected of sloth

vivid monolith
#

But then I lost to Kevin because this guy baited me to play his herald sayu against himKeqPout

sacred marten
candid harbor
#

scorp burst is mostly better

#

but it was funny

#

there would be situation where serpent snipe become relevant

sacred marten
#

10 demage going first on t2 is too attractive

candid harbor
#

but not like mostly

#

5.0 crab mirror and 4.7 conwhale mirror has a lot of matchup similarity

#

it still based on sth people can predict

#

4.8 keq whale miror was

#

idk

#

topyas/lutine gambling ganyustare

sacred marten
#

I hate topyas

#

They discard whale talent every time

candid harbor
#

for me it always discard tada

pearl glade
#

Who was the guy that cooked hypermagic

#

Thats the real cook right there

#

Cooked so hard they break the game and dev had to nerf it

#

Which is based as hell

sacred marten
#

jeht?

pearl glade
#

Yeah

sacred marten
#

That deck was cooked really early

#

But no one thought it is stable enough to bring it to competition

candid harbor
#

i first heard of hypermagic deck through a meme on reddit

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falcon brought a xingqiu chong razor list without lotus

pearl glade
candid harbor
#

and they made a meme that food is overrated

pearl glade
#

It would’ve killed every deck

#

Take stall and finaly out of equation

candid harbor
#

no

#

stall can cook hypermagic

pearl glade
#

Maybe not yelan tho

candid harbor
#

because hypermagic is sth that go boom boom boom 1 single round

#

then it become a dead deck

#

sure u can lose 1 character and at worst 2, u still can win with your main carry

vivid monolith
#

My falcon is riding camel and enjoying life nowkusastare

candid harbor
#

falcon migrate to saudia arabia? poggies

vivid monolith
#

He went to xinjiang

summer berry
#

🦤

candid harbor
#

to be fair, with all of my desire, i would want for there to be a global invitational instead of 2 PC per year

#

asia invitational was goat

pearl glade
vivid monolith
#

I want a global invitational toosadge

supple marsh
#

but yeah we need a global invitational

#

GCG Worlds '25?

candid harbor
#

there’s an idea why region merge exist

#

I think about it

#

Yeah

#

It could be global inv

#

Last year Asia was separate into SEA/KR/JP and CN

#

Now all 3 initial are merged

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same with SA/EU/NA

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if they do it just for the sake of making competition become more competitive while limiting golden cardback

#

Then

vivid monolith
#

To save money for sure

candid harbor
#

I don’t think that was the reason, if they want to save money, no reason would they need to invest a lot into all the marketing and promo videos, player jersey was nice too Kleesit

#

it’s like they are trying a new campaign or any new ideas for the tournament

#

developed from last year

#

Fonta cup also received better promo compared to dynamic cup

#

128 players LAN event too

vivid monolith
#

You can trust what you trust mintyKleeSit

candid harbor
#

One day there will be the last TCG tournament due to hoyo stop funding

#

Then the game die as it should

vivid monolith
#

If that day comes, I still appreciate the tournaments that enable me to get to know a lot of wonderful talented peopleKleesis

polar barn
#

i played wriomiya before him

#

these type of simple decks aren't cooked by anyone

#

these are generalist ideas that anyone can come up with individually and simultaneously

#

for instance Lyney cyno was my idea before kevin decided to replace childe with yelan

#

but anyone can come up with it
it's nothing special

vivid monolith
#

You sound strong. Are you participating ctg this patch

polar barn
#

i got cooked this season

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im an ass player

#

perhaps u are more familiar with this name

carmine musk
vivid monolith
#

revpoggies Kleesis

carmine musk
#

this was the list i posted in gitcg a week into last patch

carmine musk
#

original build i posted in hoyolab in 4.6

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sauce

vivid monolith
#

Genius 8poggies

#

Will rev come back ctg next patchkleepat

polar barn
#

rev is not strong enough for ctg

carmine musk
#

no i already quit tcg

vivid monolith
#

Rev is strong enough to get golden card back which is harder than ctg

vivid monolith
polar barn
#

naah ctg is harder

vivid monolith
#

Nomadpoggies

polar barn
#

just bcz it's more rng

#

the format sucks

vivid monolith
#

Every time me get trickedpoggies

polar barn
#

im always 2 steps ahead

candid harbor
#

Rev didn’t acknowledge 2 cost GT

elfin smelt
#

I don't practice at all

supple marsh
#

that said

#

the real test starts tomorrow

slow peak
safe plaza
south tiger
grizzled cape
pearl glade
rose perch
#

Hmm the person with 314 first in the leaderboard before got removed.

twilit steppe
twilit steppe
# rose perch This was the before picture

Thanks for the screenshot, my old screenshots don't have some players in here lol

Also kind of surprising this person got kicked. I wonder what happened
And isn't this player the one who ran a popular channel in Bilibili? EulaThink_Eri

thick widget
#

@rose perch werent you the one reporting him or something like that?

rose perch
#

What? I dunno who that is

thick widget
#

Just heard some rumors

rose perch
#

I see the same name as rank 16 in Asia leaderboard so it doesn’t look like they were banned maybe it is a drop out

twilit steppe
twilit steppe
#

....wait could it be the player got more than 3 strikes? kirby

#

#nosy

raven fiber
#

They are Xiao Ming a CN Hoyo Content Creator

twilit steppe
raven fiber
#

the one who does all the tier lists

rose perch
thick widget
#

I've heard a different story

#

The guy realized he registered with wrong data before starting the game

#

So they cancelled and sorted it out with the qixing

#

But something caused the case to be pulled up again

rose perch
#

I never got my win for this game either

thick widget
#

You didnt start the game

#

I dont see what you won

rose perch
#

So what they conceded in the cancel and I couldn’t q the rest of the day

twilit steppe
#

While it is Xiaoming's fault for not registering with the correct data, I am sure canceled rounds are not wins EulaThink_Eri

rose perch
#

Whatever sus is sus why they even have multiple uid on na to begin with

thick widget
#

Maybe they own 2 accounts

#

And decided to play on the other one

#

Doesnt even have to be their accounts

#

They could've just made a typo on their uid

rose perch
#

Well if it isn’t his account then that is against tos for genshin

rose perch
#

It wasn’t a typo both accounts exist and the number not even remotely close to each other

twilit steppe
pearl glade
vivid monolith
#

(o´・ω・`)σ)·Д·)

crisp ether
night token
#

I'm still waiting for this day for the first player to win 1st place in all 3 regions at the same time

vivid monolith
#

Kevin almost did it

pearl glade
safe coral
#

I think kirano was close to doing it back when he was still playing

willow lion
#

whoever wins 1st in all three region should paypal me $4400

ancient spindle
#

paypal or mastercard ?

willow lion
#

all payment method accepted

#

it's 2024

vivid monolith
pearl glade
ancient spindle
#

Kleesis payment

candid harbor
#

mirai too pro

vivid monolith
#

mirai too pro

pearl glade
#

mirai too pro

summer berry
#

🦤

vivid monolith
#

(o´・ω・`)σkev

willow lion
plucky pawn
#

Pat Mirai

ancient spindle
#

Mirai is too pro, we need quagsirefan

candid harbor
#

we need proxy to defeat mirai

ancient spindle
#

Oh yeah NA is proxy

willow lion
#

not the proxy despairge

shrewd burrow
#

who is little pig

#

gogogo miraiKokoShock

plucky pawn
#

Nooo, Darkshrinecri cri cri

ancient spindle
#

i failed to win #1 CN

vivid monolith
willow lion
#

she says that but then goes 2-0

vivid monolith
#

sadge I can’t

summer berry
pearl glade
vivid monolith
safe plaza
#

Good luck @willow lion

willow lion
willow lion
#

i will give NA justice

#

no more invaders winning MADGEClap

ancient spindle
#

Wheres proxy when we need him

vivid monolith
#

I miss proxy toosadge

summer berry
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There’s a correlation between proxy playing and invaders winning in NA

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Coincidence?

tropic slate
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direct correlation or inverse correlation?

summer berry
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It’s obviously a direct correlation

vivid monolith
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Proxy too oppoggies

polar barn
pearl glade
willow lion
vivid monolith
willow lion
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exchange signature me fan too

vivid monolith
rose perch
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yay NA defended

ancient spindle
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Is it really defended ?

willow lion
ancient spindle
vivid monolith
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Write it down write it down

shrewd burrow
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mirai goat

elfin smelt
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EU and NA is defendedSussyBirthday

ancient spindle
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AS is invaded this time

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but technically its still AS

shy grove
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mirai strikes where it hurts the most: the timezone

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NA should start invading AS clueless

vivid monolith
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Write it down. play KO during cn’s morning

ancient spindle
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Just say you r busy and wait till forced time

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if both show up you duel

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if invader doesnt show up you win

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Its so easy to fend off invaders now

shy grove
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if they show up they'll play at degen hour

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surely