[America Server] Discussions

[misty harness]

they're not allowed to play in our server anymore?

[rose perch]

just depressing like the last cats tail finals stream didnt have a single person that was from NA.

[misty harness]

we're that bad huh

[rose perch]

last season top 16 I think only had 2 NA players. Biggest problem is the lack of english tcg content creators and it isn't their fault it doesnt get as much views.

[ancient spindle]

they arent getting enough views ngl

also TCG contents like good gameplay is scarce

nowadays looking at TCG content all i see mostly is clickbait

[rose perch]

sometimes i wonder had they just put a ranked mode or ladder mode when they launched tcg that resets every patch if it would have saved the game. I am sure a lot more of the big youtubers might have engaged with it

[ancient spindle]

yeah i'd love to have it too

[rose perch]

But then again the big genshin youtubers are low skill players they got views based on personality not game expertise so they would have quit anyways. Different from heathstone CC where they are streaming because they are consistent legend players

[ancient spindle]

Sadly the pro players here dont want to make content of this game mostly bc of lacking incentive or viewers

[rose perch]

There just no rewards. If there was a ladder with end of patch chest that gives primogems. I am sure people that want to get those gems would tune in. I stream just for the genshin twitch event and what little viewers I have disappear when i go tcg usually.

[ancient spindle]

well just hope that they will make the game better for us players then

[rose perch]

a pvp lobby would be nice. Can use the heat battle ui for bans etc.

[raven fiber]

naah it's kinda worse than that, Pro players don't make up to date videos as it is all gatekeeping before big events like CTG and making videos will not net them greater than the $1000 so they keep all sauce to themselves.

[ancient spindle]

so it's better to not fully trust guides from TCG content creator about meta decks

it would be too late for that

[pearl glade]

just beat them

[misty harness]

sadly you guys underestimate how much some people hate the tcg. there's a reason why they don't advertise the tournaments in-game. For some people, the primo rewards are FOMO gone wrong.

[molten peak]

https://discord.com/channels/865768900662788107/1097076637868236850
Quote: ### Q8. Can I use multiple accounts to play in a server?
Usage of multiple accounts to play in a server within a season of the tournament is prohibited and results in disqualification from the tournament. Participation in multiple servers, while not strictly prohibited, is not recommended.

[pearl glade]

it says it's not prohibited in the message you qutoed

[molten peak]

That's why I said same problems. If it's not for u it's for me

[tropic slate]

multiple accounts to play within a single server is outright banned.

multiple accounts to play on multiple servers is just discouraged (with only one account per server)

idk whether most invaders do the first, but I'm not comfortable with banning the second, even if I don't really like when the likes of Proxy and Emilia come and beat us up in NA

[molten peak]

Idk man if not restricted why not recommend and if not recommended why not restricted? It's been a issue that not up to us players to answer but as a participant I think it's a not addressed issue for long now.

[ancient spindle]

~~even LLRiseFalcon is in NA ~~

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/1192856149297471488/1096961646053826700.gif

[ancient spindle]

problem is there's no way to identify if a player is invading

sure you can obviously tell by AR

but they can claim that they r here to play TCG not GI

and if you put AR restriction they will just grind the account and participate

[stiff crypt]

Any good whale slayer deck?

[ancient spindle]

Ganyu CA CA talent R1

[stiff crypt]

Same, like 100% winrate
But they play against opponents with questionable decks and with obvious blunders

[stiff crypt]

[stiff crypt]

Who's Emilia?

[tropic slate]

ahem, ё𝕞𝚒𝕝iẳ

it's in a fancy accent

[twilit steppe]

Another whale I guess

[twilit steppe]

..oh yeah I kind of dislike videos like that😭💀

[rose perch]

but at the same time who is going to watch some 55% win rate deck even though that is suppose to be pretty good

[gleaming parcel]

Kinda forgot today was the first day, and I work the next 4 days, oof

[twilit steppe]

Idk about others but I would if the opponents in the video is good

[gleaming parcel]

Do we know what some of the meta decks people are using right now??
I like my deck right now cause it’s fun to play, but I want a better one too…

[twilit steppe]

🐳 decks usually I got defeated by the one with Scorpion & Cryo Hypostasis

[gleaming parcel]

I’m not sure what that means ?

Whale decks?

Like narwhal decks??

and I don’t know what deck has the scorpion and cryohypostasis

[rose perch]

i dont really get the scorpion one cuz you play so many cards in that deck and your whale doesnt really get any hp. the keqing one seems more straight forward

[gleaming parcel]

But I remember last tournament narwhal was popular too

I don’t know what either of those decks are

[twilit steppe]

Yeah Narwhal decks, the one who defeated me use Narwhal Scorpion Cryo Hypostasis, sorry for not being clear

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve just been playing with a Neuv double hydro /freeze deck cause it’s fun to play
But it doesn’t always do the best competitively unless I get the perfect cards super early

when it does well it does really well

But that’s all my decks I feel like lol.

idk. Are there any strong decks right now that don’t use the narwhal??

[twilit steppe]

Yea Keqing version is very straightforward, but I do learnt from that scorpion match that the blocks are useful + scorpion burst with 3 stacks can be deadly

[twilit steppe]

Maybe Cyno Chev Dehya? Cyno is a really strong DPS right now I think

[gleaming parcel]

I can definitely use some input on my deck I use the most but I always forget how to get the whole thing in a single image

[gleaming parcel]

Interesting

Good for cyno lol

my struggle is also just picking like cards for the deck besides just the main cards

[tropic slate]

for cyno chev dehya, you want

• cyno talent
• pyro resonance
• Prospector's Drill (this allows you to easily discard chevreuse's bomb cards)
• fast swaps (LITM, Katheryne, or both)
• Tada (synergizes with Prospector's Drill, allowing you to proc it yourself instead of needing your opponent to do it)
• Gambler's Earrings
• enough draw power to get the rest of those things into your hand by the time you need them

[gleaming parcel]

Hhmmm I see

I’m not too familiar with cheveruse

[tropic slate]

you can mostly ignore chevreuse in most matchups

[twilit steppe]

She's just there for her passive most of the time so don't worry about it haha

[gleaming parcel]

I mean I don’t even have her in the main game lol.
Im not the biggest fans of guns

[twilit steppe]

Everytime you do an overload reaction, her passive gives a card that can deal 1 pryo damage when discarded, this is why people use her with Cyno and that drill

[tropic slate]

start dehya, r1 set up her skill and then ramp mostly for draw
r2 ideally you start first, fast swap to cyno, equip drill and use talent to do the first overload, generate a ball, then proc drill to discard it and do another overload

[twilit steppe]

I don't have her too tbh against my will because I like collecting 4 stars

[tropic slate]

by r3 cyno is at 4 stacks (due to the adjustments they made to how his skill works) and so his skills now do 5 damage base, 7 with talent, 9 with overload, 12 with pyro res, 13 with the boost from drill

which can just kill anything

[gleaming parcel]

She the only 4 star I don’t have lol

I think that makes sense thiugh?? Hmm

[twilit steppe]

Same except I also don't have Sethos 💔

[tropic slate]

chev is your out when your opponent is playing slow and avoiding your overloads, or if you don't have the fastswaps to guarantee them

you can go to her to apply pyro and setup burst to make overloads unavoidable

and then you go to cyno a bit later

[twilit steppe]

Yeah basically this

[tropic slate]

just make sure chev doesn't die or else she doesn't generate balls any more

[gleaming parcel]

Hmmmm I see

[tropic slate]

it's a very straightforward deck to play once you get the hang of it

[twilit steppe]

True, do not be like me who get 1-4 with it

[gleaming parcel]

Hmmmm

Is there like a sample deck? Like a picture of the full deck??

[twilit steppe]

I don't have picture right now sorry but there are examples of the codes in here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1bRgBEqMKTngIsI2pktdV7S-jeU6dNmwAGfJ0opkQYWs/htmlview
Those are decks by PC Atlantic participants

[pearl glade]

scorp is good in whale mirror

[twilit steppe]

Yeah I agree (experienced it firsthand )
Vicious Ancient Battle too

[rose perch]

is it better? the whale summon with scorp usually has fewer charges cuz not enough 3 cost were tuned

[twilit steppe]

Maybe? In my experience the scorpion burst and few narwhal skills can damage my characters enough to the point they get defeated. Though maybe I just have skill issue lol

[pearl glade]

imo it has better discard mechanic

than just tuning for whale

sometimes discarding is more efficient way of gaining value than tuning

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah I agree with this too

[pearl glade]

one example on top of my head

you have all omni dice

you can still feed whale by proccing energy block

which gives you an extra dice

[rose perch]

ok but that action while it give u an extra dice used 2 cards and only fed whale once

[pearl glade]

the energy block is a card that was generated

so it's fine

also

i think energy block draws i think?

[rose perch]

still had to draw it unless you get talent early. I dunno for me it seems harder to get the hp bonus cuz you want the 3 discards to be the same cost. the keqing one you attack get a card tune that attack get it again. really easy to build up the 3 damage summon

[pearl glade]

yeah fair enough

and also

after keqing dies you wont be able to generate stilletos anymore

while energy blocks will still exist in your deck

and on average keqing generates 3-4 stilletos

before dying

and you may have more energy blocks than stilletos

so you may have more usages for tuning/using

[rose perch]

again it comes back to the point the whale summon is like 3 damage with maybe 3 charges they attack you once and it is gone

a lot of your damage comes from that summon hitting twice

both decks are great. I just feel scorp is harder to play and plan out is all

[pearl glade]

oh yeah absolutely

and i would argue playing decks the player is comfortable with has more merit

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have a place to put codes; I’m a console player so the copy and paste deck codes don’t work

But I could use some input on my deck

that I use

[twilit steppe]

You can copy the decks in Hoyolab deck viewer, if you're in PC you can use this one https://act.hoyolab.com/ys/event/bbs-lineup-qskp/index.html#/pc/publish

Also as for deckbuilding I am bad at those so I can't help sorry 💀 😭

[night token]

I feel like Navia's bullets won't be enough to take down the whale's health easily

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t play on PC

I use discord on mobile too

Like that’s where I am right now

[twilit steppe]

Yeah that is what I meant by Hoyolab deck viewer, I used that in my phone. Maybe you could download that app if you want/can

[gleaming parcel]

I have the app but

I can’t figure out how to view the decks

I also don’t watch the Prince cup so I don’t know much about who is who and their deck works

sorry I’m kinda

Lame and restricted with what I normally play

I did figure out how to get my deck though

If anyone cares or wants to give input

[stiff crypt]

Mostly Either 🐳 or cyno

[barren anchor]

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also plz use https://act.hoyolab.com/ys/event/bbs-lineup-qskp/index.html#/pc/publish on desktop mode instead

[twilit steppe]

Well they did said they don't have PC so yeah

[barren anchor]

you can still use your mobile browser's desktop mode

[gleaming parcel]

lol my phone really doesn’t like to use desktop mode

And it’s really hard to navigate a desktop screen on a tiny phone

[gleaming parcel]

So you’re running it more like a stall??

[barren anchor]

also beware that pasting the link and then enabling desktop mode won't work. you have to open a tab, enable desktop mode, and then paste the link

[barren anchor]

yes. your list was also stall 🤔

[gleaming parcel]

It wasn’t fully stall though

I have a team with Barbara instead of Furina that is more stall

Also the link just takes me to a webpage full of lists of various decks, it doesn’t take me to the deck you posted

[barren anchor]

.

[gleaming parcel]

I didn’t even copy and paste, I just clicked the link

[barren anchor]

well yeah clicking has the same effect as copying and pasting

just do this

you have to open a tab, enable desktop mode, and then paste the link

[gleaming parcel]

Screenshot if you want specific card amounts

But I literally can’t copy and paste the code, I play on console

There is no way to get the code from a phone or a computer or any website in to my game

Because I play on console

Just forget it

Doesn’t matter anyways

[acoustic ether]

just use hoyolab to enter the code and see the cards and then you create the deck in your game it is not that hard

i play on ps too

[supple marsh]

I have a question: is it that PS does not have the deck code field at all, or it does but it's just too inconvenient to put in a code?

[gleaming parcel]

It has one, but there isn’t really anything you can copy from on a play station

Or even paste

It’s also an absolute pain to type on PlayStation, because you’re using the controller to move around a keyboard

It’s not that it’s inconvenient

It’s just literally not possible

to copy and paste a code

[twilit steppe]

Yeah it's so annoying to type via controller before I used a secondhand keyboard I got from my brother

[gleaming parcel]

How do you even hook up a keyboard to the PlayStation??

I’ve seen some like keyboard attachments to controllers to make it like a blackberry but that was it

[twilit steppe]

In PS4 I just use USB cable

[gleaming parcel]

Oohh I see

[polar barn]

invaders aren't scary

they just like the game more than you

🐳

that's not how it works

multiple factors have to be taken into account

starting first mattered more previous patch with conwhale

[storm parcel]

I am in a match where we accidentally started a heated battle instead of a normal duel. What do we do in this case?

[plucky pawn]

just concede and begin normal one

[storm parcel]

Ok, so the concede won't count against us then?

[supple marsh]

if picking Heated was a mistake, it shouldn't count

[molten peak]

I strongly disagree w that. What I think it's they have more free time than I do. I'm over 30yo so I have a life to care. Usually those ppl are around their 20ish whom doesn't work and maybe still only have college things to deal with so yeah it's pretty easy to have 3 or 4 acc across all servers

[tight crypt]

[grizzled cape]

[rose perch]

it all about having similar skill friends to play with. Hard to find practice partners to figure out break points or to test if the deck you make is viable or not. more servers more real games so they just get better and better

[supple marsh]

I mean, yeah, some queues are just outright dead so I understand why people have to switch to other servers to play

-# unfortunately, CN players are just like the All-Devouring Narwhal: they came unexpectedly and almost crashed the whole thing

[vestal iron]

I haven’t been able to play a game yet cause of my work schedule hopefully soon 😭

[tight crypt]

[grizzled cape]

[thick widget]

[night token]

[misty harness]

long queue times today

[ancient spindle]

they r no incentive to play so yeah its just 🐋

[molten peak]

N cn players

[night token]

Basically this whole season is feed the whale and win

[thorny crypt]

i was using melusine, and instead of copying good cards, i copied 2 forbidden knowleedge

[vivid monolith]

Are you also a Kevin fan

[ancient spindle]

arent we all Kevinz fan ?

[misty harness]

Has whale deck been played on any top level tournaments? I'd like to see what an attempt at counterplay looks like when going against it

[tropic slate]

lmao, literally karma for playing mausoleum

[tropic slate]

there were a few games in prince cup

problem is it won every time it was played iirc

[misty harness]

I feel like you mostly only just wait for them to blunder and pray they don't draw an early maracheusse

[pearl fern]

Yeah it only was let through in the finals

For atlantic

[tropic slate]

Mr Pillow got to play one game of it in the first round

in which it also won

[acoustic ether]

layla whale can easily counter any type of whale it seems the problem is that i find the cube whale better against cyno matchup

[ancient spindle]

whale is so OP nerf Keqing please

[violet garnet]

they could balance that kq with forcing you to play steletto

rather than making a imaginary one

but kq isnt the issue with that deck

its just contributes to it

[acoustic ether]

make it a status and add fast action unto keqing like kazuha and trigger e

[twilit steppe]

Lol happened to me too

[violet garnet]

4 of my 7 games so far have been vs whale. im still positive record atm so thats nice.

[indigo delta]

congratulations!

[violet garnet]

i just wish the power level of decks were a little more balanced.

but ty.

[indigo delta]

ah, that's fair - it's hard to bring experimental decks to a tournament

[violet garnet]

eh. i do it all the time. its that much more rewarding when you get results

i had my time of meta gaming. i lost interest in mirror matching all the time.

[indigo delta]

that's fair - trying new things is super exciting, especially when you win over a deck everyone thinks is the standard

[pearl glade]

🐋

[pine heron]

that's fair- trying new ban ideas is super exciting, especially when you ban someone and don't give proofs and think it's the standard

[violet garnet]

?

[twilit steppe]

That comment is not about you at all, don't worry

[thick widget]

Hallo I'd like to order the extra large cup of ban macchiato extra creme, randomize the duration and add some extra unfairness oh and dont give me the order receipt so you can scam me on the prize

[polar barn]

there's no consistency

some people get banned for life

while others only get banned for 3 seasons

[thick widget]

Some people cheat their way through to the grand finals of asia ctg

[violet garnet]

i didnt assume so. it just seemed really puzzling given the conversation prior.

[thick widget]

While others get perma ban for no reaaon

🦤

[violet garnet]

who cheated?

[thick widget]

Somebody in AS used multiple accounts in one server and made it to grand finals

[violet garnet]

oh. gross

and no one pointed it out?!

[polar barn]

can i steal ur pfp

i like it

[violet garnet]

im over here one account only EN.

[twilit steppe]

Well that person got temporarily banned for few seasons

[violet garnet]

preff not. it was commission gift from an artist friend of mine.

[polar barn]

oh

[thick widget]

The player then lost grand finals and had the nuts to start complaining that he was treated unfairly by his opponent

[polar barn]

how much?

[thick widget]

So his opponent exposed him

The player then got banned for 3 seasons

[violet garnet]

not much. they threw it in a deal with my banner.

[twilit steppe]

LOL I forgot that happened

[polar barn]

probably too costly for me

[violet garnet]

which player was this?

[thick widget]

Now people get perma banned without proof

[polar barn]

👍

[thick widget]

For no reason

[violet garnet]

gross

idk which production i like more.

for the prince cup. i like the stage for NA a little more. i dont love the cut away graphic for the skills on the pascific one.

[sacred marten]

how does these bans works?

[polar barn]

confidential information

👍

[sacred marten]

i mean if they can have multiple acc

[twilit steppe]

I personally think both are good in their different ways haha

[polar barn]

wanna take a hint

[sacred marten]

it is easy to have some more

[twilit steppe]

As for the 3 seasons ban person, if I am not mistaken this person uploaded screenshot of the other account in public social media so this person is not really hiding it well I guess

[pine heron]

There's very simple criteria to decide the bans. It's goes something like however tf I want

[thick widget]

A player named Ryzac plays in EU and AS but only one account in each server and theres nothing wrong with that. Recently his EU account got banned, so Ryzac, knowing he did nothing wrong, went to ask staff on the reason and trusted them to treat him fairly. Little did he know that staff would use this to ban his main account aswell and still not elaborate on why

Bro got backstabbed

[thick widget]

They spin the wheel or something like that

We dont know

[polar barn]

u forgot the part were he got banned from the server itself upon asking for evidence

[thick widget]

Cuz they dont tell us

[sacred marten]

?????

[thick widget]

Maybe they ban peole when theyre bored

Who knows

[polar barn]

he got banned from ctg than server itself

[thick widget]

Ah yes Ryzac then asked for the reason again and now he got silenced

[sacred marten]

thats crazy

[thick widget]

Not only banned from tournaments, now cant even speak up here

[polar barn]

it's scary to talk about it open

anyone can be next

next target

[thick widget]

A mod could come raid us any second

[pine heron]

Who's in queque to get highrolled next

[polar barn]

all i want is transparency

[thick widget]

Exactly

Theres no reason to hide evidence if you're right

[pine heron]

Ah man why are you guys not understanding

You guys keep insisting on asking for proof

Ypu should just accept whatever they tell

Even if you didn't do anything

After all they have done thier investigation thoroughly

They definitely can't be wrong

[thick widget]

Uh huh

Thats why they hide it

To make it funnier

🦤

[elfin smelt]

1. staff is always right
2. if you think staff is wrong, check 1.

[polar barn]

hello @elfin smelt 🤗

[gleaming parcel]

That isn’t always true though. Maybe it is with this staff, but staff and mods can take advantage of their power. They can abuse and manipulate members. They can enable toxic and poor behaviors. When staff is corrupt, they are not always right.
And even if staff isn’t malicious, they are human and make mistakes. They don’t know the answer. They give the wrong response or do the wrong thing.

Statistically speaking, as a general rule of life, staff and leadership isn’t always right. And thinking that any leader is always right is a cult mindset, toxic, and you will do more harm than good.
I have seen too many staff from other servers and leaders in life who have not been right and taken advantage of their power.

Again, maybe this statement doesn’t apply to staff here, but to say any and all staff is always right isnt right.

[twilit steppe]

You're right, but I am sure SkyCrematory is not defending awful staffs but rather he is making sarcastic comment toward said staffs

[thick widget]

Pretty sure it was sarcastic

[gleaming parcel]

Oh lol.
There are a decent amount of messages I can’t see so I wasn’t fully sure what the convo was

It’s hard to tell what is sarcastic or not without emojis

[elfin smelt]

This phrase is just a meme

[gleaming parcel]

Ehhhhhh I haven’t seen it used as a meme in a long time, and whenever I see it used, it’s usually fr something derogatory or hurtful or bigoted

[stiff crypt]

How many accounts do they have?

[twilit steppe]

2 accounts in same server

[thick widget]

They used atleast 2 accounts in AS and made it to the grand finals on one of them

And I think they even matched into themselves in preliminaries

That player got banned for 3 seasons

While Ryzac gets perma ban

And nobody knows what happened because staff doesn't tell us

What is this bias

[stiff crypt]

[rose perch]

People always said I was paranoid but this proves my suspicions were right being trying to tell people for a year now

[ancient spindle]

time to report all top 16 players

[storm parcel]

Well, this season is going much better than last where I went 4 wins 31 losses. The most OP decks are not as broken as last time. Facing more variety than previously. Even whale was beatable one of three times I faced it. In the top 10 for the first time! (although top 10 scores overall are pretty low winrates compared to the past) Navia + Raiden has been working well.

[frigid sundial]

[supple marsh]

RinTaichou wants to know your deck

[storm parcel]

Well, I don't want to give away the secret sauce, but I based it loosely on the one linked in this reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/GeniusInvokationTCG/comments/1ehdwp0/navia_and_albedo_bullies_cyno_overload/

[misty harness]

Who was banned? Name and shame

[molten peak]

Yep they're are listening us, even make a post about it. Let's keep it up

[misty harness]

wonder how suspicious qualifies as SUSPICIOUS to the mods. I played someone yesterday that made me raise my eyebrow a bit. First game made me wait a few minutes because they were loging in, then next game right after I was matched with them again and made me wait again because they were logging in again. like, what? Why are you logging off and on while queuing up, makes no sense

[night token]

Every time a player has whale in their deck, its theme song automatically plays in my head

[indigo delta]

The Qixing aren't going to give out the player's name because of privacy obligations. Just because the player broke the rules doesn't mean they deserve public humiliation or harrassment. The punishment has been handed out, and there's no need for them to receive additional backlash; it would be neither ethical nor moral to expose them like that.

Additionally, if you would like to file a report about the player from yesterday that you found suspicious, feel free to open an inquiry line to the Qixing. We'll get to it in a timely manner~

[indigo delta]

The Qixing value transparency with the Travelers of this Tavern~
It just took us a bit to put the post together in light of privacy concerns and the volume of feedback we received. Rest assured that we are listening to player opinions and concerns!

[vestal iron]

I think i have to go build a narwhal deck otherwise i have no shot 😭

[night token]

It'll be nerfed next version, I think

[ancient spindle]

let us farm you

[night token]

I gave into the whale

I am now part of the cult

[rose perch]

sweet if everyone is playing the same thing then it is easy to win

[night token]

ALL HAIL THE WHALE

[maiden zenith]

i switched to whale, won every practice match, and have lost every match in the actual tournament lol

[tropic slate]

if you have whale counterplay then please

please popularize it

i hate whale but i feel like it's the only way to succeed

[rose perch]

but mirror matches how you going to get more than 50% win rate?

[tropic slate]

exactly

but better 50% win rate than 0% win rate

[night token]

please join the whale cult

[ancient spindle]

50% is huge

thats 17-18 games you will win theoretically

[misty harness]

went from playing only 2 whale decks up to yesterday to playing against them every single match . at least they're probably also having a miserable time playing whale mirrors

[night token]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-whale-boss-whale-gif-1809043284968535732

You gotta play the whale music as well to increase your chance to win the match

[timber crow]

whale solitaire is horrid to play against man i'm not even close to unlocking that mf for myself

[ancient spindle]

whale is too OP

nerf Layla please

[timber crow]

this game is unplayable if you don't have the whale man damnit

[vestal iron]

I need to go find a good whale deck

[thorny crypt]

9-2
temporary on leaderboard
but I know I have no chance to qualify for ko bracket

[ancient spindle]

the pros r always smurfing

[vestal iron]

I’m 0-2 😭 cause i have no whale

Wish there was a casual bracket

[ancient spindle]

let us farm you

[vestal iron]

Nah not fun for me

[thorny crypt]

I want to join that too
i'm tired getting farmed by pro players

[timber crow]

realest statement ever

[vestal iron]

Yeah it sucks, I shouldn’t have to play with a specific card to have any shot

[ancient spindle]

sure the pros will just smurf again and play in common bracket

[thorny crypt]

nooooo

[vestal iron]

Well we could just all out ban whale

Problem solved lol

Just beat the whale time to build a deck for him

[thorny crypt]

is there a smaller but easier tournament?
i feel like I have no chance to win on ctg or prince cup

[ancient spindle]

if the game implements a ban/pick phase it would be really cool

[thorny crypt]

I can't compete against pro players

[ancient spindle]

sure you can practice here

[thorny crypt]

I can't even tell what my mistakes are

[ancient spindle]

#🤝partnered-servers message

[timber crow]

the "mistake" is not playing the exact meta deck

which sucks

[ancient spindle]

go here if you want small tournament

[maiden zenith]

i miss last season when kaveh bloom carried me lol

and only by the end did people catch on I was no one to fear lol

[vestal iron]

Now that I have the narwhal I have no idea what deck to make for him

[ancient spindle]

i can see ya guys r new players

[vestal iron]

Not new just casual

[ancient spindle]

i see

[thorny crypt]

i got lucky today
5-0

[twilit needle]

stop it bro

you play like god

[thorny crypt]

i lost twice yesterday

[tropic slate]

ok, caught up from yesterday, 11-4, not bad

i fought seven games today, and except for Elemental Hero and Ting, all of y'all are UNCOOL and TRYHARDS

only these two engaged me in a proper Heated Battle, which is way more fun than whale

[summer berry]

[tropic slate]

if I encounter Proxy he'd better be cool and accept my Heated Battle proposal

[maiden zenith]

ill humor you if we match... because it totally went well for me last time lol

[tropic slate]

just practice it, you'll be fine

there is an element of skill to it, it's not just luck

[maiden zenith]

although the disparities in our win ratios might prevent that from happening lol

[thorny crypt]

I'll just run away if proxy queue

[tropic slate]

so I think it's better than whale mirrors, which do definitely come down to luck

most of the time

[ancient spindle]

~~Proxy is busy playing with bees ~~

[tropic slate]

you're doing really well! keep it up!

[ancient spindle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/1192856149297471488/1096961646053826700.gif

[faint arch]

i think this definitely doesn't seem true to me, but figuring out what matters in the mirror is definitely quite difficult

[thorny crypt]

i got matched with gboo

[ancient spindle]

have fun playing

🐳 🪞

[acoustic ether]

me too, but luckily he lowrolled

and the melusines heals were on my side

[hard vale]

@sleek pagoda i had all omni

i couldnt discard

for lab

[misty harness]

everyone playing whale mirrors and just 50/50ing each other. nice meta

[acoustic ether]

whale is too powerful nerf keqing

[thorny crypt]

i lost
i think i may have won i get my tada

i end the turn with 9 dice

[limpid orbit]

Honestly can't wait for a new meta next update (hopefully)

[ancient spindle]

Nerf Layla is better

[ancient spindle]

balanced as all things should be

[vestal iron]

Wdymmm thought you were casual lol

[ancient spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[vestal iron]

Imma just build a meta deck and play again tomorrow

[ancient spindle]

never trust lb players saying they r casual

[vestal iron]

😭

[violet garnet]

thats what ive been saying, this is terrible.

[ancient spindle]

huh isnt this is a form of a balance game

so its not that bad theoretically

[alpine lava]

balance doesnt always make it fun though

[ancient spindle]

[alpine lava]

rps is balanced

[white cipher]

at least serene adds unpredictability to the games

[hard vale]

we could have just played whale mirror but idc win or lose

[alpine lava]

serene is not sereneing right now

[white cipher]

just got shattering ice from serene and won against keqing layla whale

yay!

[alpine lava]

[white cipher]

oh wait ur the person i played

did not want to rub it in, sorry

gg

[alpine lava]

its okay i also thought it was funny

[tropic slate]

when serene gives you dendro -> cryo res

bliss

[ancient spindle]

you r forced to tune both

[thorny crypt]

I'm casual
sometimes, I'm just getting lucky
and I already lose 3x

[night token]

🐳 vs 🐳

[polar barn]

hello im casual too

i just play a lot but still *casually

trust

🫠

[ancient spindle]

hello casual too
im the real casual
legit 100% bc my name isnt on the lb like you

[polar barn]

madgeclap

[stiff crypt]

4th rank with just 14 games

OP

How to become strong like you?

[polar barn]

why become like me

when u can choose to be even better

[ancient spindle]

Yeah aim higher

How to be the TOs

Or better

How to replace Da Wei

[stiff crypt]

I wish i could

[thick widget]

Play better than the opponent

[sacred marten]

highhhhhhh rollllllllll everygame

[polar barn]

why are oppo cancelling

madgeclap

wait for ages only to get cancelled

[safe plaza]

[tropic slate]

oh Lia did you end up getting signed up?

[stiff crypt]

Pro nomad

[ancient spindle]

dw i'll single handedly report everyone in top 16 for whaling in TCG

[tropic slate]

i'm not whaling

i'm losing in heated battle

[ancient spindle]

just play

🐋 🪞

[vestal iron]

You guys ready I’m about to flex my score

[acoustic ether]

why it doesn't show my clan name

[ancient spindle]

6 pts and only 569 players

man CTG is so flop in this meta

i miss when there was liike 1k players

[vestal iron]

It’s just not fun atp for me cause I can’t not lose, I’ll keep trying but yall might just end up farming me

All I want is the card back 😭

[ancient spindle]

surely you can win at least 3 games from 35 games right ?

[vestal iron]

That’s the hope

[ancient spindle]

let me farm you real quick

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1237280352150618225/1243593674990813274/pffI9fo.gif

[tropic slate]

this is against my principles

i would rather lose in heated battle than succumb to the whale

if given a choice

[ancient spindle]

Tell me if whale is in heated r you going to pick it ?

[grizzled cape]

[ancient spindle]

[vestal iron]

I got my first win it’s a miracle!

[ancient spindle]

What was your opponent use ?

Is it whale ?

[vestal iron]

No they didn’t use whale

[ancient spindle]

Yup then congratz ?

The win rate system is working

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/1192856149297471488/1096961646053826700.gif

[tropic slate]

ok I went 2-3 today, so it was not a good time, but the silver lining

all of my opponents were very cool people

and played heated battle

i did not have to play a single whale mirror

[limpid orbit]

Honestly sounds like a better time than the meta today. Can't wait for the next update

[tropic slate]

I just need to git gud honestly

and get halfway decent dice luck

[vestal iron]

I might try to play heated sounds more fun

[tropic slate]

surely I go 15-0 in the remaining three days

surely

[ancient spindle]

Surely

Whale mirror make everygame is 50:50

[tropic slate]

nonono I will keep playing heated

but I will win through better character choice and not-awful dice luck

[ancient spindle]

You cant avoid whale mirror

Its inevitable

[storm parcel]

2w/3l today. 13th place for a few minutes at least, all without using whale once. The two wins were against non-whale decks, the 3 losses were whale, go figure. The non whale decks have variety and are fun to play against. Whale is just very unfun.

[thorny crypt]

2-2

[alpine lava]

i got super lucky today, only 1 whale mirror

[rose depot]

one thing i dislike about whale is how absurdly long the games take

bring back shenhe SC days

and finaly

[tropic slate]

once upon a time shenhe sc felt unfair

[alpine lava]

my best tournament was with shenhe sc

[rose depot]

shenhe sc my beloved

[maiden zenith]

miss the days of shenhe/fischl/eula lol
from pre eula buff days

[ancient spindle]

MMEC my belove

[thorny crypt]

somehow i made it to (temporary) top 10 even though i had a bad start of the day 0-2
I even play very newbie-like gameplay on heated mode

[maiden zenith]

1:1 w/l ratio lmao

[night token]

All hail the whale!

🐳🐳🐳

[rose depot]

dont bully whales

🐳

[night token]

Please join the whale cult!

Be one w/ the whale!

🐳

[rose depot]

i used overload in my fiirst round of cats tail

then i saw 20hp whale on turn 2

joined the cult

🐳

[night token]

https://tenor.com/view/narwhal-love-heart-smile-gif-14394356

[stiff crypt]

🐳🐳🐳🐋🐋🐋

The best

[willow lion]

what's ur score rn

[pearl glade]

Okay, I heard you call me immoral for playing Whale🐳, that it's a wrongful doing. However, you're mistaken. I'm not unconscionable like you say, nor is my moral compass broken for playing Whale🐳. You see, while I do acknowledge the power of Whale🐳, I have my own, personal, and secret reasons of playing it. I do know that its HP-stacking mechanic is overtuned, and that its 5-DMG-dealing Elemental Skills put any other combo deck to shame. Frankly, I do actually enjoy when my Whale🐳's burst deals a total of 8+ DMG while negating my opponent's attacks, and also when I use its Normal Attack "Shattering Waves" to Shatter (hehe, pun intended) my opponents' frozen characters. And yes, sometimes I do chuckle to myself when my opponent presses the concede button after me tuning for 5 minutes to reach 23 HP by the start of Round 3. Nevertheless, I deny all of your anti-Whale🐳 Coalition's claims about people like me being morally corrupt, depraved, and vile. I think you are being ridiculous, and I can't believe Whale🐳-enjoyers like me are being prosecuted like this.

You think it's unfair when I play Keqing-Layla-Whale🐳, but I certainly believe it's far more unfair when you go out of your way to make it miserable for me and my fellow Whale🐳-enthusiasts to be amused by our opponents' suffering! Beyond belief! But I digress. Yes, it's nontheless beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm virtuous and right-minded for playing Whale🐳. In fact, when my Serene gives us the Lutine's Goodwill status, I pray that my opponent gets the +2 HP trigger both times so that they can at least feel something positive while they play against my Whale🐳. I even go out of my way to apologize for using Whale🐳 after winning against them by a landslide, which is the only way I'd be satisfied in this game. You see, in the end, you're the wrong ones, while us exalted Whale🐳 players couldn't be further from the very notion of wrongness!

[tropic slate]

13-7

this is the worst I've ever done on day 4 iirc

[night token]

We just have an unhealthy addiction to playing whale

[willow lion]

i've given up already as well

i queued 4 whale mirror and lost 4

i have double negative win rate

just gonna take a break this season

1 game for raffle amirite

[night token]

Yesterday, when my opponent ran out of cards and Serene gave me King Deshret card, there were so many forbidden knowledge cards infesting their deck

That I can't even count

[tropic slate]

"oh boy, more food for my whale"

[night token]

They have Navia, Gorou, and Dehya

Wait... does the whale even eat forbidden knowledge?

[tropic slate]

with its skill? yes

honestly if you're running the xinyan apep whale variant and you get hit with forbidden knowledge

[night token]

So it makes the whale smarter?

[tropic slate]

one play is to draw as many cards as possible and then use xinyan burst to discard like 7 of them at once

to massively inflate whale hp

of course that doesn't really happen this patch because no one plays mauso any more

...maybe I should put that in my deck for anti-whale. hmm.

[night token]

Huh, well good thing my opponent didn't have whale

Thinking about how much whale eats reminds me of that Spongebob episode where Pearl is on a growth spurt and she has to constantly eat

[tropic slate]

irl whales are about as unfair tbh

like the blue whale, it eats krill, right?

the largest animal in the planet's history mainly eats one of the smallest

like wtf

[sullen walrus]

mauso is not a good whale counter because they don't draw cards as much as they generate cards

[night token]

In TCG, the cards are like their krills

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-pearl-hungry-growth-spout-gif-26551713

I can safely say that the whale isn't a picky eater

[polar barn]

but he only eats one of the kinds
don't eat vegetables, salad and meat at the same time

🚮

[supple marsh]

he was supposed to eat all, but The Heavenly Principles decides that it would be overkill and would send the entirety of the tournament system to the shadow realm

[maiden zenith]

it was eating cars and eating bars but now it only eats guitars (rip Xinyan)

[safe plaza]

Yes but I just got off the plane LMAO

[rose perch]

man first time in my cat tail history where I meet 21 out of 25 games of the same deck and getting 15 losses to the same deck

[supple marsh]

lemme guess... that dreaded Keqing Whale deck?

[rose perch]

I am done with cats tail between the format and invaders it just not fun anymore

[quick agate]

out of my 22 game 20 of them are whale tech

[rose perch]

there no matchmaking balance either

15 losses and I am only matching with people that have 2 or 3 losses

[quick agate]

i dont rly care about the matchmaking bal tbh

im just playing for fun

so i didnt go with whale tech

but ye it gets bored when u keep running into the same deck

[pearl glade]

yeah im actually unsure if the match making balance exist as they claim

i havent started any games this season yet

but my past ctg season ahs been like that

[rose perch]

it just a lie they take whoever is online. this is also why invaders barely match with each other they just find out if each other are qing

[pearl glade]

im also unsure about whoever is online thing

i tried to queue snipe kevin many times

didnt work

also tried to queue snipe friends

didnt work either

[rose perch]

depends on the time I guess if you are peak hours there more people in the pool

[thin rapids]

What I think is the truth is it might exist, but there are just too few people in queue, so you end up with who's online anyway.

[pearl glade]

here's the thing

if thats true

if someone i know and myself queue at the same time

[rose perch]

I had really fast q like the moment I press the button it confirms

[pearl glade]

it should match us immediately instead of waiting like 5 minutes

[rose perch]

and the opponent was still vastly different tthan my win rate

[thin rapids]

Maybe it checks the amount of games rather than your win rate 🤔 ? This makes more sense then

[pearl glade]

i doubt this from my personal experience

[rose perch]

I hope it isnt by our roles that would super suck

that would mean new accounts have a massive advantage

[pearl glade]

yeah that does soun unfair

[twilit steppe]

Oh I didn't knew that (about the last part), now everything make sense thanks for the info

[rose perch]

I rather just not get a match haha

[thick widget]

I think instead of people blaming matchmaking for their failure, they should be looking somewhere else

[polar barn]

i queue at the time im available

anyone can queue

[polar barn]

right

just get good

this is a competition after all

i faced 3 invaders myself

those i personally know

so it's not correct to say we are farming easy opponents

and yes

most of my oppps are /were from lb

[tropic slate]

the only thing is it makes me feel worse if I'm losing to someone who isn't even from my region

it's not that I don't deserve the loss, I just wish it was more worth it

[polar barn]

u have a good standards i respect that

the other guy not so much

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/1192856149297471488/1096961646053826700.gif

i met 2 finalist from previous season and season from before 3 times

all of them were invaders

so yeah

just get good

[thin rapids]

that's a good strategy for sure

[polar barn]

simple and effective

works everytime

[rose perch]

Isn't that hypocritically to say get good when you are dodging your own region due to it being too competitive and you can't get good there?

[pine heron]

Whenever I open NA discussion it's always someone yapping about invaders

People should try the strat of getting good instead of complaining about it

[rose perch]

you dont see anyone here invading Asia and taking their top 16 spots

[pine heron]

Maybe NA players aren't as free compared to other regions or they suck

[twilit steppe]

If 'anyone here' means people in western countries, KevinZ does that

[rose perch]

kevinz is also asian and lives in EU not NA

[twilit steppe]

Let's discuss something else does anyone know how to play Scorpion Layla Narwhal properly

[supple marsh]

I mean, the thing is that invaders stop those in the region that actually "git gud" from receiving the reward they deserve

but yeah getting good is just as important

[pine heron]

Haven't played it but have played against it, that deck isn't good with the energy nerf

[twilit steppe]

Oh alright.. maybe I should stop trying it then

[rose perch]

but whale isnt a beast why do you need the energy? scorpion also doesnt need the energy

my problem with scorpion is the duration of the whale summon is not as high as the other version. Unless you avoid all 3 cost discards and only do 2 cost but then you also get a 2 damage summon

[pearl glade]

Robotwizardo

@polar barn you remember if nyahida ever made it to asian leaderboard?

[polar barn]

im not dodging

i was top 4 last time i played

im planning to play it again if i get time

[polar barn]

no

not that i remember

[rose perch]

you are @CHN | 吴意?

[polar barn]

no

i was top 4 in knockouts

not lb

my games streamed on twitch for top 3

if u want to watch

funnily i perform better in Asia than Na

altough this is my second time

last time i lost to birdy in KO

kenki slaps !!

[polar barn]

do u want how many eu/na inavders successfully made in top 16 in asia

:yaethunk

[pearl glade]

Yeah iam curious

[polar barn]

its not hard

[thin rapids]

a few

[polar barn]

bcz there not many

[twilit steppe]

Oh wait I forgot both of them do it too and they are NA

[polar barn]

mostly for practice

i

ig

[rose perch]

you are quagsirefan?

[polar barn]

thats kevin

[rose perch]

no one else left in top 4 in asia

[polar barn]

i didnt say last season

*last time i played

[rose perch]

so what season 1/2? cat tail? It wasn't a problem back then. season 1 and 2 top 16 were all pretty much NA players

[polar barn]

what do u mean

it was patch before conwhale

[rose perch]

i dont see you in any of the 2024 knockouts in Asia top 4

[polar barn]

u just have to look harder

ofcourse my name is not same

in every server

[rose perch]

whatever not going to play guessing games you literally proving my point anyways

[polar barn]

what was ur point

oh yea

i cant find vod on twitch

maybe kojo as it

[rose perch]

they usually get deleted every 2 weeks I think. Twitch is honestly dead everything should move to youtube or something

[polar barn]

https://www.youtube.com/live/eIikK13aGlw?si=BWyD0mo6YesCgpPo

[rose perch]

you are Salty? I swear I seen both you talking at the same time on discord

[polar barn]

yes

i can do it now too

[cobalt kite]

bedge

eep time

[polar barn]

[thin rapids]

good night sleep tight

both of u

[twilit steppe]

[thin rapids]

you guys are gonna be sleeping in one bed 😳

[polar barn]

:clap clap

[rose perch]

so you are just matchmaking into yourself I see

[polar barn]

anways its not bcz we cant compete in our own servers

[thin rapids]

no, these are different servers

[polar barn]

i just want to play more

[twilit steppe]

? while Salty is in AS, Nomad is in NA if I am not mistaken

[thick widget]

I'm actually wondering

Are you trying to make yourself look silly on purpose

?

If yes, youre doing a good job

[tropic slate]

question for mods:

we are currently allowed to do heated battle if both players agree, instead of a regular duel

Are we also allowed to do Finchball in lieu of a regular duel?

[stiff crypt]

What's finchball?

[tropic slate]

it's the new event

in sidegame

[supple marsh]

this is just like asking if you are allowed to initiate minigame instead of playing a BO3

what is this question

-# seriously is this sarcasm?

[tropic slate]

i'm dead serious

I already offer Heated Battle to all my opponents

this is even more fun than Heated Battle

but it's also simply not TCG, so I feel the need to clarify whether it's allowed or not

[thick widget]

[elfin smelt]

Tbf, everything is allowed against people, who don't forget to confirm, and agree your suggestion

[tropic slate]

I don't think that's the case, i feel like if this isn't condoned it's the thing that would get strikes in the preliminaries review

[elfin smelt]

Like you don't have to submit winning screenshots now)

[thick widget]

Are we not playing a tcg tournament anymore?

[elfin smelt]

Wait, you really asked for heated in discord chat?)

[ancient spindle]

just ask for minigame

[pearl fern]

I'm pretty sure heated is an exception because it's still a coop game mode which puts a game into the history that can be verified

[tropic slate]

11 out of my 20 games so far have been in heated battle

[pearl fern]

playing a non-tcg, non verifiable game mode is just asking to be removed for match fixing

[tropic slate]

^ which is why I'm asking about it here

[pearl fern]

you should be asking modmail if you actually want ot know

[thick widget]

Isnt this the same as asking for a 1v1 in some random other game?

As if SI suddenly started proposing tft games to his opponents?

[tropic slate]

yes, but one degree of separation instead of two

[pearl fern]

I would say common sense should tell you that it isn't allowed and you should be playing a TCG game

[tropic slate]

since this is still within genshin impact

[thick widget]

(I'd want to watch that)

[tropic slate]

and that is my assumption until confirmed otherwise

but it doesn't hurt to ask, right?

[pearl fern]

no but this is also the wrong place to ask

[elfin smelt]

Idk, i somehow enjoy whale mirrors

Quite funny

[ancient spindle]

just ask them a YGO game

its still TCG

[thick widget]

Gonna ask my next opp for a chess game

[elfin smelt]

That's because i didn't play whale at all before CTG

Propably

[crystal tapir]

I offered minecraft pvp last patch but my birdy declined

[tropic slate]

that's just because I don't have minecraft installed

and it probably would take longer than the queue time to figure out how to put together a pvp patch

also, i'm on trackpad, so

[sick marsh]

This is fake, why is my 1st match against BornGinMay i have 0 score

[tropic slate]

maybe they also started late?

[crystal tapir]

im pree sure the matchmaking is based on previous seasons

and the data is backed by many people's records including mine

but it can also be that every single casual player just no longer plays ctg and the pool of players is left with only the top

[ancient spindle]

uhh well this CTG is estimated about 600 players globally

[rose perch]

honestly just roll the fateometer and however has higher report their win

[crystal tapir]

for the record im down to play minigame with whoever queues with me

[ancient spindle]

what minigame do you have in mind ?

[tropic slate]

did you know the fateometer is not usable in the cat's tail?

it's tragic

[thorny crypt]

first time, i'm glad my hp decreased from melusine 50:50
i wanted my characters to be 1 oneshot, if they survive, all of my characters will be frozen

i would have lost if my hp increased

[rose perch]

oh right it is considered a domain

[tropic slate]

honestly this is one of the smallest details but it's one I'm most mad about

because fateometer would be fantastic wasting time material

[rose perch]

you know that place we go when we invite characters. I wish we pvp there instead and have more options like bans etc or sit at the table against each other

[tropic slate]

or if you could put a gitcg table in your teapot

[rose perch]

problem about tea pot is you have to be friends to enter

[ancient spindle]

[tropic slate]

ok but like for rmm and aoc

[molten peak]

The reality is both. As I said before ppl whom play cross regions must have a lot of free time cause the queue times are different based on each own server. Besides as someone already said less ppl mean less same lvl opp which make harder to player get better

[tropic slate]

4-1, god damn it

it was going so well too

and then i just had to brick

[molten peak]

That's for me it's the main issue about cross region players. As a Latam resident I'm really upset that last 3 or more seasons NA got not even one player from Latam. I know a lot of good players here but instead competing against our self we also have to deal that players that supposedly not should be playing in this server so it got a lot harder to get a chance.

[acoustic ether]

i run out of time with 6 dices and lost i was taking my time thinking lol

[molten peak]

I know almost everyone here don't give a f bout sportsmanship BUT, and a big BUT, the organizers should be

Cross regions players it's like in the Olympics the same player could compete from 2 different nations

If u think it's fair them.... OK I guess

But it's OK as long someone got the prize money that's what all about cross players care bout.... Smh

[ancient spindle]

their Pov are, a 3 different tournaments just happen to take place at the same time

lets make a TW-HK server and invade there next

[molten peak]

No time for that bro

I'm struggling to keep the pace on my own region

[sick marsh]

getting to AR32 is gonna be the death of me

[ancient spindle]

we need to revive that server

deadge for too long

[sick marsh]

does HK-TW even have a CTG?

[ancient spindle]

there was intention at first, but due to lack of participants so its being canceled till this day

[vestal iron]

I just won my 3rd game! And I’ve only encountered 1 whale deck today I’m pretty happy

[acoustic ether]

topyas high roll discarded their resonance lol

[ancient spindle]

sure now you aim for the primo

[ancient spindle]

huge

[vestal iron]

Yep exactly!

[polar barn]

i forgot to layla E in R1 amd swapped without it in one of my games

[misty harness]

man I hate my luck tonight. bottom decking key cards, nothing but whale players, low account level chinese players.

[mystic wharf]

wdym, whale is very fun and interactive

[tight crypt]

[misty harness]

[polar barn]

how does it feel to end on 9 dice in whale mirror

bcz u were not fast enough in thinking

other day i forgot to layla E r1

i should never play morning queue

[mystic wharf]

ive been playing a funny kirara/kuki deck, but half my games are whales and I lose all of them

[vestal iron]

I only played against 2 whales tonight which was good! Those games are just boring

[supple marsh]

I unironically want to see HK/MO/TW be revived as the 4th, "champion of champions" server

no points on the line, only cash

it would unironically make for some great matches without messing up tournament integrity elsewhere

[sacred marten]

actually we have our tournament on HK/TW/MO this weekend

Which gives the same cardback as ctg

But only 19players

And at least 5 of them don't play on this server at all

[ancient spindle]

[thorny crypt]

where?

[sacred marten]

Secret

They didn't even post it on Facebook or twitter

[pine heron]

Who's other known player from those server

[sacred marten]

16/19 knows the tournament because they joined last time

[sacred marten]

uipkong
I don't think you knows others

[pine heron]

Ik uip

[sacred marten]

Others are friends in our messenger group

[pine heron]

Are they good or it's between you and uip to win the tourney

[slow heart]

How is the competitive level in that server?

[sacred marten]

Like 0

[slow heart]

Haven’t seen them play a lot

Stream here and there but not enough to gauge their level

[thorny crypt]

after getting matched with dvdia, now i'm getting matched with nomad

[sacred marten]

There are 2 or 3 more players I'm not 100% confidence

The guy 2nd place last time registered too late

[pine heron]

This nomad person looks so free from what I have heard

[pine heron]

There's no stream for the tourney?

[sacred marten]

no

They even miscalculated score last time

勝=win
敗=lose

NN火火is 2-3
But the score on the right is 3-2

[pine heron]

These mistakes in official tourney

[sacred marten]

Even no one realized it until lastweek

(this tournament happened in March

[ancient spindle]

[thorny crypt]

0-2

i lost against both dvdia & nomad

[supple marsh]

uhhh what?

[sacred marten]

We don't have TW/HK/MO ctg

They definitely need a tournament to win the cardback

[supple marsh]

yeah but like

how have I never heard of that

and is it going to be recurring or is it a one time thing

who organizes it

does it even feed into PC?

so many questions

[sacred marten]

Few player knows about this tournament

Even here in Taiwan

3round BO1 swiss to top8 in day1 and single elimination BO3 day2

But we have less then 20 players so day1 become 4 groups round robin

[sacred marten]

A company in Taiwan but i know nothing about them

[supple marsh]

so the only reason that tournament exists is to have those card backs be in circulation in HK/MO/TW?

[sacred marten]

Yes?

[polar barn]

madgeclap

yeah when i float 9 dice

or forget to layla E

than yeah its free

[supple marsh]

y'know, I wish card backs were cross-server

so, idk, KevinZ can just prove that he's THE Quagsire to those who're OOTL

on any server he plays on

[sacred marten]

[supple marsh]

I mean, what else then

in fact, I wish TCG progress was cross-server

[summer berry]

[polar barn]

i wish tcg was more popular

[sacred marten]

True
i can't find anyone to play in midnight

[polar barn]

so we can get someone better than kevin

[summer berry]

I don't even use my golden cardback

[polar barn]

Monopoly not good

[summer berry]

Other people just need to step up

I'm winning more than I should

[polar barn]

and im losing more than i should

[supple marsh]

this humble Quagsire

[polar barn]

we need to update kirano AI

[summer berry]

Me no humble

[supple marsh]

honestly though

do you guys have any ideas

because this game is not being as healthy as we want it to be

[polar barn]

u pitch the ideas

we'll help

[summer berry]

Is it not healthy?

I think it's fine

[polar barn]

i like this meta

🦤

[summer berry]

Limited pool of decks but we've seen worse

[barren anchor]

when our gold carbacks get sent i'll always use it. not because i'm not humble but to show how easy it is to win against gold cardback havers, hence demonstrating PC is cope

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/1192856149297471488/1096961646053826700.gif

[summer berry]

It's not like it's stale or all figured out either

[polar barn]

best part is evryone thinks whale is unbeatable
only to loose in the end

[tropic slate]

one of these days I'll get a gold cardback and use it for all of my matches no matter what

fighting against a gold cardback is a morale debuff that you as the gold cardback user can exploit

[polar barn]

depends on person to person

i never bothered looking at card backs

[supple marsh]

playerbase declining

[sacred marten]

I have the same thought about this

So I use it all the time

except i forget to change it

like last week

[summer berry]

well it's hard to get into a side game that is vastly different from the main game

Esp with the lack of content and tools to improve

[polar barn]

maybe if it was easier to acess tcg
people would be more interested in trying and
that way they even might try playing main game

if it looks fun to them

[stiff crypt]

I'm still using default cardback until now

[polar barn]

i just forget to change card backs since u need to equip it manually for all of ur decks

[supple marsh]

I still don't get why they choose to put the requirement at AR32 and then try to market it to players of other TCGs

it just doesn't make sense

[sacred marten]

I ask so many friends in shadowverse community to play gitcg

All of them gave up before AR32

[polar barn]

🥹

[supple marsh]

I really think they should just lower the req to post-prelude and lock NPCs behind corresponding AQs

[stiff crypt]

I agree

[supple marsh]

if they really want to sell the TCG and the side game as a bundle

[polar barn]

we need globalisation and liberalisation of tcg

[stiff crypt]

And it'll better, if there's separate tcg game that can be played both on main genshin, and game just genshin tcg

[supple marsh]

here's the thing though: high chances are it might not happen, or at least it can't be a totally standalone game

as I've alluded to, it really seems like they want to sell TCG and side game as a bundle

I think the farthest they could do is to release a mobile companion app for TCG that you can play the game on, but not release it for PC/PS

[polar barn]

i would pay for that ngl

[tropic slate]

honestly I bet it's a bigger technical issue to have interoperability between something like that and the actual main genshin impact application

like how co-op mode works technically

if I'm on console and I want to play tcg with a specific friend using that mobile app, how do I do that? they don't have a world for me to join.

[supple marsh]

yeah I think this is where troubles may arise